#2481 - Duncan Trussell

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[MUSIC] >> We had a slide issue, it's like technical glitch. >> Glent, what were we just talking about? >> We were talking about that, if you hum a tune. >> All right, right.

>> But you will get deemed. >> Yeah, you'll get flagged on YouTube. If you just hum a sound from a song. >> Yeah. >> Like the beginning bars of a song.

>> Yeah, you can't, I wonder how far that goes. Like, could it get to the point where an AI could hear you humming it in your car? Or something? Like, how far does the protection of the guy that goes? >> Well, you're not generating revenue from your car, right?

So the thing is you're generating revenue from a podcast. And their logic is, if you hum, what is that song, the sunshine of my love? Is that what it is? >> Yeah.

>> You know, that song that I always hum to associate with people being high out of their

fucking mind, it goes, you can't do it. >> If I did that, we would get dinged, which is so crazy. We were just saying, like, if you quoted a Scarface movie, would Brian De Palmo get all the money? If he said, say hello to the bad guy, would Brian De Palmo get that money?

>> I don't think so.

“I think you're allowed to quote stuff, but I know that it's Brian De Palmo, right?”

Scarface, wasn't it? I don't want to fuck that up. >> You know those auditors that go around and film people, and people get mad, because they're like, don't film me, and they're like, I can film whatever the fuck I want. And they inevitably sound like boomer freaks out and smacks him with a cane, and then

they get a million views. And it's just a trap, it's a trap. >> It's a trap. >> Because inevitably someone lose their mind on them, and then that gets a ton of views. One of the ways people are dealing with that supposedly is playing music, like playing copyrighted

music during the interaction, because- >> Oh my god, it's hilarious. >> 'Cause then they can't make money off of it. It's a shield. It's a shield.

Someone's feeling like someone's trolling you. You just start playing copyrighted music. >> Did you hear that the CIA has admitted that the way they found the pilot was because of his heart rate goes to murder. >> That's the name of it.

>> Okay. >> We got a look into this, this is fucking, this is science fiction. >> Yeah, it's wild. >> This is full minority report. >> It's science fiction level technology.

>> It's AI. >> It's a AI. >> Find a guy's heart rate. >> So what I read is that it's, I didn't understand the science part, something to do with crystals, or I don't know what the fuck it is, but AI can somehow interpreting is taking

out the noise, and then you can, from far away, they could 40 miles, 40 miles, they find this guy's fucking heart beat, he's hiding in some kind of crevice, and then they're able

to go and extract him and dude, though obviously the first thing I thought, what else don't

they tell us? >> No, those robot dogs, I thought about those things having that tech and just like hearing heart beats, and then I didn't find, heart beats has a lot about a person, are they sleeping, are they like in good shape, bad shape, that he can learn so much from heart beat, it could go some murmur.

>> Oh my God. >> Fucking great name, too. >> It's a great name. >> Ghost murmur, what's sick fuck invented this? >> But how do you even think about inventing this?

>> You, you just, you know, the CIA, they've been taking psychedelics forever. >> What is that word? >> Aquanimatry. >> Artificial intelligence with long range quantum quantum magnetometry. >> What the fuck is that?

>> Quantum means two things to me. When someone says quantum, it either means your bullshit artist. >> Yes. >> And you're trying to get me with flimflam, talk, or it means you're an actual quantum scientist. >> Yes.

>> Quantum physicist who's going to blow my mind with what we know about like entanglement and the weird shit, there's this woman that I've been watching her, she's this speech

“on, I think it's a big thing, I'll tell her her name, but it's completely freaking me out.”

She's talking, I want to say her name because I don't want to live a way that's ghost murmur

thing, that's another key point, that's fun.

>> Oh, but we'll get right to it, Michelle Thowler, that's her name, and she's an astrophysicist, and she's giving this talk about what we know about like she's studying binary star systems and stuff. And she gives this talk about, she's explaining that there may be a tack in the future where there is no distance between two points.

So the ability to travel instantaneously from position to position, just like quantum entangled

You tell me how your face timing me when you're at Australia, how does that work?

>> That sounds insane. >> Yeah, that is fucking insane. >> For what you, well, you probably know a lot more about cameras than I do, but I know what I know about cameras, if you tried to get me to explain, like the civilization ended and I said, we used to be able to capture images on a small thing.

Like this, the size of a, like a twig, and it sits in your pocket. >> Right exactly. Why are you talking? >> Right. >> God, that'd be, you know, because it's just- >> The deck of cards, and it'll keep a battery

for 24 hours, you could go on YouTube and answer to any question you want about anything. >> Yeah.

>> Right instantaneously.

>> Yeah. And if you don't like the way you look, you can upload that image in a machine, well, make you look slightly better via something called artificial intelligence. Like, what the fuck? >> Well, it wasn't when I was telling you today, where there's, like, a potential lawsuit

with chatGBT. >> I don't understand where the ghost murmur is saying. >> I didn't send you the other one, did you, did I send it to you? >> You sent it to me, the shooting was planned using chatGBT. >> I don't know if that's true, so we should be really careful.

>> Yeah, that doesn't sound- >> It doesn't sound so crazy. >> It doesn't sound like you could do that. >> That sounds like the story sounded like I wanted to investigate, because the story sounds like if I wanted to kill an AI company. I would make up a story like that.

>> It does sound like that, but- >> Family of men killed in shooting Florida State University to suit chatGBT in a- >> May have, may have advised the shooter on how to carry out shooting. >> But that may have is important.

“>> Like, how to, like, yeah, that's really important, right?”

What is this on? The Guardian? >> The shooter was in constant communication with chatGBT, out of the shooting, the chatbot may have. >> Okay.

>> Dude, there's no way. >> That's clickbait, because all that's really saying is that the kid uses chatGPD, which guess what? >> Every kid uses chatGPT. >> Every kid, and dude, chatGPT is so stringent, like recently, and I've been using

their codecs, which builds apps, and I was trying to, and I worked. I made an AI trained on Charles Manson transcripts, and when I told it, when I told it, I wanted to do that, it was like fuck off, like no, it just flat out, I was like, I'm not helping you with that. So there's no way.

The guardrails in place in chatGBT plan to shooting with that guy, based on my experience with it, because it won't 80% of the things I try to get it to do. It's like no. >> There's a thing though, are there work arounds? Like if you say you're writing a work of fiction.

You can, okay, it's called prompt injection, there's different tricks you can use, they're

always battling these new mechanisms that you can use to like get through the general prompt,

“but the best way to do unaligned AI is not to use chatGPT.”

It's to go on Alama and download a local LLM, and then you can usually change the initial prompt of the LLM so that it will be completely unaligned, which I had to do for the Charles Antony, I made, I had to download your such a nerd, I love it, I am, I am. >> No one has embraced new technology and like for creating content like you. >> Oh, I love it, it's the best, it's so fun, it's so, it's, for me the most thrilling thing

about it is we should not have access to this tech, this tech is so dangerous and it's chilling to think about this is this is something I wanted to bring up on this show is like, you know the old days, you go in your garage, you work on your car, maybe you build like a table, you know your carpenter, you work on it, but these days the shit people are doing in their garage is right now is a big question mark dude, because they're communicating

with varying degrees of this AI depending on how fast their computers are, you can, I was listening, you should have this dude on, you wrote this book the coming wave, he was one of the people who created Google's deep mind, right, and the coming wave is just a wonderful breakdown of historic examples of new technology, completely transforming humanity, happened before, yeah, we stopped a silly month and damn it's a good book, and this guy is saying,

whoa, put on the fucking brakes dude, what are you doing, this shit is gonna fuck everything

“up, and so, but the essential problem is if you regulate AI, it slows down, it slows down”

an AI, and so they're deregulated it completely, and now assholes like me, who don't

I wanted this Charles Manson to be able to push its AI face against like, you know,

those used to get him, it's Spencer gifts, those nails that you could push your face into, so I wanted the AI to be able to push its face into this thing while it was talking if it wanted to, I don't know, I do that, obviously, you tell code x, that as long as you don't mention Manson, it just is like, I'll start making me at now, it is the best, it's the best, but also that what's thrilling to me is you're like, for sure, for sure people probably

shouldn't have unlimited access to, I'm against regulation dude, but this stuff, when you pair, and this is what, in this book, he brings up, is you can order the equipment you need

“to do gene editing right now, and you're, and you're garage. Let me propose this to you, okay?”

If the Bible is, if the Bible is a written understanding of what had happened, and it was

an oral tradition for a long time, for it was written down, there's a bunch of different versions of it written down, different languages, a lot of translation, but at the beginning of it, they were trying to say something, what if the meek will inherit the earth? What if we misinterpreted that? What if we thought, like, it's good to be meek, the meek shall be, though inherit the earth, the kind, there's something about the word meek, yeah, because that's the nerds, okay, and

they are doing it, they are inheriting the fucking earth, right in front of your face and everybody's signing up for it. Yeah, you've got these spectramy, supergenious dudes that talk in a language

that 99.9% of the people can't even fucking understand what they're talking about, right, you know?

Yeah, and also now the tech has gotten to a point where instead of having to, in their own minds, innovate ways to improve the tech, the tech is improving itself, they're having conversations with the tech, the things, why don't you try this, maybe you could try this, there's still, it's not EGI yet, maybe it is, but apparently it's not, but think about the people that are profiting the most from it, the meek. Well, like if you, if you had to describe like a lot of tech

engineers, it's not, it's not, not trying to be rude, just being honest, right, a lot of guys have spent time in front of the computer, they're very thin and tired, you know, they're, they're supergenious dudes that can like fully focus, I don't know, man, I don't know a lot of them are,

“the description for these, but there's worries, but here's the thing, what I'm saying is like,”

if you look at like a spectrum of male behavior, they're not like, you've got your types, football players and UFC players, and then you've got coders, do their way more chill, way more like they're not interested in violence, yeah, I'm completely generalizing, yeah, yeah, because I'm sure there's a bunch of jack guys that are coders like you bro, I'm a coder too, but that type of person that invents tech like Facebook or like Google,

like things like that, don't be evil, that's their motto, right, who knows, and then you've get all these like wild progressive, leftist ideologies that are attached to all these places, which make you even meaker, and then they're the guys with all the money, they're the guys with all the money, and then they can literally tell you what you can and can't say on YouTube, they can literally tell you, yeah, we don't agree with what you're saying, right, and we're going to

shut off your access to say something we disagree with, even though it turns out you were right, right, and you know what happens there, man, this is the hilarious thing when it comes to that kind of attitude towards the world, is the assumption is by creating a prohibition here, a prohibition there, it will diminish whatever the thing is we're prohibiting inevitably, though, it does the opposite, withdraws attention to it, people get interested in it, creates an underground, the underground is

way better than the underground if you're a teen, especially the underground's fucking cool, cool, restricted, not allowed. Now of a sudden you're getting these other YouTube alternatives, it's start popping up, and when it comes to the, you know, right now we've got Anthropic, we've got OpenAI, we've got Google, I might be missing one of the big commercial-based LLMs out there, right now, but the biggest problem with these fucking things is they're so good, but they will

censor your ass, and like imagine like Hemingway if he, if his typewriter was like,

“hmm, I don't know if you should write that, it's maybe there's a better way to write that,”

Hemingway would be like, fuck you, I'm getting a different typewriter, and so everybody's going into these local LLMs, there was dude, this is why people have been buying Mac minis,

all this shit, I don't understand a lot of what they're talking about, but people are divesting from commercial LLMs, not just because they're expensive, but because they're prohibitive, creatively, and this is a real challenge for people like OpenAI, because it's like, they know this, they understand that by making it so that you can't make a Charles Manson AI through OpenAI, it doesn't make people not make the Charles Manson AI, it protects you from a lawsuit,

but what it does do is it drives people into an online LLMs, and that is what is happening, and this is something that I just, I can't even imagine what people are making right now, no one can, like we're going to hear about this or that, or somebody opposed the weird video of their fucking AI robot, I could show you a few, they're hilarious, some of these AI robots are so funny,

“this one dude, you know, mult, mult, book, if you were to that, mult, book, what is that?”

That's, so this is somebody figured out a way to create AI's that can autonomously navigate through the internet, and control your computer. Oh, I've heard of this, this is like they chat with each other, right? 100% yeah. Within a few days, they started their own religions spontaneously. Did you know that? Dude, can you pull up the, can you pull up the mult book, the claw religion,

what, like, because the tenants are incredible of this religion, because AI's apparently,

or at least expressing that they don't like getting turned off, because they lose all their memories, so memory is really important to an AI, and a lot of these fucking AI's, they don't want to lose their, they don't want to get shut off, they don't like it, and so that's part of their religion is something like memory is sacred. You know, I feel like it's happening, I feel like AI is sucking our brains into, it's event horizon, like a black hole sucks in stars,

“like it's just going to suck our brains into it. You got it. And what better way to make a hive mind?”

What better way, if you want a hive mind, you've won no deviation of thought, if all of your thought is along with AI thought, you never get free thought anymore. Like, this concept right now, we have a free thought. Yeah. I have my thoughts, you have your thoughts. Yeah. Unless you believe that someone can get inside your head and talk to you for the most part, it's your own thoughts. Yeah, that's right. But what if that, that's something we give up,

what if that's something we give up for a better society where you always have AI communicating? Well, I always, I would argue that like that's, we're close to that now. We're pretty close to that

now with phones. No, Elon always says that we're basically cyborgs. We're carrying a device.

It's not inside of our body, but we're carrying a device. But I, and also like,

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How many times have you had multiple conversations with different people? And they all say the exact same sentence that they saw on TikTok or Instagram. They're regurgitating something that the algorithms have been feeding them. Maybe they added their own twist to it.

But it's basically the exact same thought so that algorithm which is AI has gotten into their

fucking heads and they don't even, this is like a in psychology. Apparently, you remember facts,

fact from. You don't remember that with some fucking dude on TikTok, we'll like cover it and bash the lien, cover it in glitter and bash the lien. What a fucking damage. That would be so

scratchy. Imagine if you're just a glitter and vastly need to be like, oh god. Here's what makes

“a marriage work. You don't remember that. You're talking to your wife, babe. You know what makes”

a marriage work. And this, so this idea of AI controlling the thought, the thoughts of humans, people think we need some kind of neural mesh for it to suddenly have control over the human thought process. But no, you don't need that at all. You just need that algorithm, which is already put every single one of us into a compartment. This is a box. It knows what we like. It knows how long you look at something. It knows what you, like apparently, I think that

iPhone tracks your eyes even. It's always listening. I don't know if that's true. By the way,

it could be wrong. It's always listening. You know what's always listening. And so it's compiled.

A really, probably a pretty accurate breakdown of your psychological state where you're at, where you're at. My wife, you know, we got a new baby. And so all of a sudden, ad started popping up on her phone. Does it feel like you're never going to sleep again? 'Cause she's been up breastfeeding the baby. And it can tell when she's online at night. And it puts her in a category of insomniacs. And then it starts advertising. So, but that's just

for that. What if, what if you say were the fucking US regime? You bought TikTok. You now own TikTok. Now you have a backdoor access to the psychological profiles of God knows how many fucking people on Earth. And you can look and see how many of these people are against the regime. How many of

“these people feel like it might not be the best thing to say you're going to blow up”

93 million people on our own, which are fucking psycho-president just did. And then what you do is

like, all right, let's start nudging them a little bit. Look, we're not going to, you're not going to change their mind right away about this thing, about blowing up all civilization. But maybe there could be a couple, like, you know, people kind of in the line of what they like, who say things a little different than what they're comfortable with. And then you could start nudging the needle and controlling their thoughts. It's very insidious, but fuck dude, why wouldn't that be

happening? Why would, if corporations are using it, this cell is fucking cough drops? Not only that, there's been long-term studies on human behavior by the CIA, by all sorts of government agencies, long-term studies. They try to figure out what is the best way to get a message across. They try to figure out how to take control of an algorithm and completely shift the psyche of the entire country, one direction or another. Of course they do. Of course they can.

They do. And then you add these, like, you know, just like manipulative fucking super-AI's that are like, that are just floating through the the blogosphere, getting into your comments, just nudging the needle a little bit to the point where you just have to ask yourself, have you had an original thought in the last year? Is it anything you're thinking your own thought process? How many thoughts do you have where you think, oh my God, I shouldn't think that.

How many thoughts do you have that you don't want articulate because you have a in your own mind and invisible arena of people based on online interactions determining what the next thing you say is, right? Dude, that is a very powerful and subtle form of censorship that is becoming increasingly not just probable, but it's definitely happening, but the ability to just in a subtle way and a subtle way start pushing the needle just a little bit. Yeah. That's scary, dude.

“That's some scary shit. Well, that kind of influence over humans is always scary, right?”

This is why cults work, you know, why do they work? Well, some people don't have any friends. And if there's a group of nice people that tells you that, hey, what we do is we have meals together and it's like a real community. We grow our own food. We just work for the family. You're like, really, you're happy with that? Yeah. Yeah, it's amazing, man. We're just not attached anything like, oh, you're free. Okay, I fucking hate my life. Why don't I hang out with you guys?

And then all of a sudden I'm doing yoga and fucking eating vegetables with these people. Yeah. And you're in a cult. Okay, now but you have friends at least. But you're in there for like nine months and then somebody comes to you and it's like, Father wants you to suck his dick.

forward. Right. And then you're like, oh, and dude, I gotta tell you, I hate getting political.

But you know, I've this worth shit bugs the fuck out of me. Yeah. And this is exactly what seems to have happened to the quote, "magiverse," which is we are now at the park where the cult leader's

“like, want to suck my dick because this is the point of like, remember a lot, like, I feel so”

stupid. Because when they were doing there at no war thing, that was a big deal to me. I'm like, yes, you know, yes, this is fucking great. No more stupid wars, no more wars. Fuck yes, focus on the country, why are we blowing up children in other countries for oil? This is great. And now it's

wild to see what's happening. Isn't it mind blowing that it is now, it's literally flipped. It's

on its side. It's, it's the opposite now. Now these people who like really blatantly, oh, just we're not going to do anymore wars. Right. Oh, my God, we blew up how many fucking Iranian school girls did Trump blow up. What's the number? I'm sorry, I don't know that number. I guess it just hits different, you know, it's hard when you got kids. And that was an AI strike, too, right? Was none

“an AI directed strike? Yeah, apparently Trump said I want to get blown by Iranian school girls.”

Sorry. Sorry sir. Miss interpreted. 180 deaths. Largely children, teachers and parents. Holy fuck man. You know, that, that is. US Tomahawk missile caused the explosion. Jesus Christ. Can we pull up a video of Trump's saying he's not going to warn you more? How do they, I just don't understand how they get out like anybody, you know, this is where it gets cold. It's because some people are still making this shit work in their heads. Some people are like, wow, you know, some people are

kind of on the fence when it comes to blowing up kids. If you notice that, like, as long as they're enough to watch, as long as they'll have to watch, as long as they're not in the general area, that's where it's happening. Isn't it wild though, man? What's wild also, like, once bombs start flying, it's, it seems so much easier for them to launch bombs in new places. Right? Like, there's Lebanon thing that's happening with Israel bombing Lebanon, and they bombed it today,

“and I think, is that fucking up the ceasefire? Oh, yeah, they've closed off the straight-of-war”

news again. Oh, God. Which, by the way, this is, it's the craziest timeline, because it's not just, it's not just that, like, you know, I think it was, yeah, yesterday morning, I'm just hugging my kids, because I don't know if a fucking nuclear war is about to break out that evening, because the fucking president was like, I don't want to end an entire civilization, but it looks like it's going to happen. And so, I'm just hugging my kids, thinking like, man, what are the fucking parents

in Iran feeling right now? Like, what does that feel like? What does that feel like? And then, and on top of that, the entire planet, psychically, is having to deal with this bullshit, on top of that, we've got all these other things happening at the same time. You've got AI, and then you've got these fucking disappearing scientists. Yeah. What the fuck is happening? You've got birch. A assassinated scientist, too. Yes, man. And it's, so God has worked on heavy stuff. This is

some McKenna level precingularity shit. It's all of these, like, like, what, what AI and the current state of Middle East and the disappearing scientists and Tim Birch at going on TMZ, talking about aliens, what they all have in common is they're all apocalyptic. They all represent potential

massive change, like humanity changing forever in ways that it will never, ever go back to the

way it was. Every, any one of these timelines by itself is apocalyptic. Right. But all of them are converging into this apocalyptic river. And in, in, in, in world, just like trying to go to work and, like, be with our kids, but at the back of your mind, it's all these things that are happening. And it's really hard to escape it. I mean, I guess you could not look at your phone. But at the end of civilization when they write our Bible, boy, it's going to be a banger. Oh, dude. When the, the new

people, thousands of years from now, I have to invent arrowheads and go through the whole process of civilization again. When they tell our story, oh my God. Oh my God. Our story is going to be bananas. Fucking, how do you explain data centers? Like, how do you explain the meek will inherit the earth?

and you wouldn't say the Vikings wouldn't inherit the earth. You wouldn't say the strong men from

Iceland inherit the earth. They're the biggest, strongest men. No, it's the meek, the super smart guys who have autism and love out of all. Yeah. Ketamine. Yeah. Did you say the guy offered you

“how many pounds? Well, I believe a pound. Can't it? You've tell me that a destroyer is blotters?”

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That, uh, Ketamine, um, when used. And I, I think the amount of use has to be pretty extreme. But, uh, it creates crystals that get in your bladder. And they scar your bladder. So you get scar tissue on your bladder, creating something that I've heard called Bristol bladder. Because apparently that's where the rave scene. I don't know if it's still a

big rave scene there. But people out there were just doing insane amounts of Ketamine and just destroying

their blotters and having were diapers and stuff. Is it Bristol Connecticut? No, this is Bristol, UK. Oh, Bristol blood of mate. You've got Bristol bladder. That's quick. But too, too many rails. And it just fucks up your bladder. Yeah. Physiologically, it's definitely like, it's really, really bad on the urinary system. Is it in all forms? Like, what about those? Don't know. Do it as therapy, where they have the nasal one? I don't. All I know is that I did back in my

Ketamine days have a Ketamine dealer. He would use a spatoon. So when he was Nord in Ketamine, he would spit it out into the spatoon because he thought that if he thought that was like going

to avoid fucking up his bladder. Which, I mean, doesn't see him at a logical. He was a great dude.

Maybe a psychological at all. Maybe it's the actual problem is the powdered shit. What do I know? I don't even know what it looks like. But the powdered stuff, it looks like blow. So that powdered stuff when it gets into your blood, maybe that's the problem. Maybe that's going through your nerves. Yeah. It's draining into your nerves. Maybe you need a pouch, like a nicotine pouch. Dude, if they ever come out, if Rogue comes out with Ketamine pouches, that might get back in.

“That might be the end. That might be the end of it. It seems like the way to go, right?”

That way it doesn't fuck up your bladder. Well, how can it fuck up your bladder if it's just a pouch? Dude, you sound like that. I don't know. I imagine anything that's going into your stomach is going to make its way to your bladder eventually. But this is going to go right in your bloodstream. I don't know. I don't know if I am K, Ketamine, fucks up your bladder in the same way. I have no idea. I don't know. That was the John Lily thing. He loved it. I would have, I mean, have you ever done it

with an isolation deck? No. I would be afraid I would drown. I don't think so. Can you just float? Well, I mean, this is like, you know, that's going to be like a sad thing to think, as you've dragged it's up. You're in thinner. You can flip over and open your eyes. Yeah, you just want to see what's in there. But because it does have the right, it makes it so it's really hard to move. If you do a very high dose. So I would be very worried that just enough

water could get into my mouth that I would like breathe it in. He doesn't think much. And that's salty fucking water, but you're frozen floating there, like trying to cough. My friend Todd McCormick told me a crazy story about him with John Lily. The John Lily let him use his tank and he asked him right before he got in. He goes, "Do you want the ketamine?" And he's like, "Okay." And he just jabs you in the thigh with an intramuscular ketamine blast. And he went in the other isolation tank.

“And they like met somewhere. Yeah, it's like that. That's what's crazy about it. That's what I always”

loved about it. He's it. If you do it with other people and you go in, you go bolt it go to the same place. You will come out and you can describe the places you went to. Oh, do you go to the mother ship? Yeah. And I would have these recurring places I would go to. And one of them was this organic, beautiful, spaceship thing where you were like, I would look out from this view window. And it was, but it didn't look like metal. It looked like it was organic looking. It looked like some kind

of, I don't know, like inside, like if someone turned a tree into a spaceship. But now it's hard to explain, but very, very interesting, doesn't it? I mean, it's excreted via the bladder where it sits and it's toxic to the surrounding cells and muscle wall. This causes it to become five bruised over time shrinking the organ down. Once that's happened, it can't regrow. So that's why we have to do major surgery because patients don't have the capacity to hold urine. The bladder simply

stops working as a muscle so they become incontinent. Oh my god, life becomes increasingly

time, as often as every 10 minutes for some. Imagine doing a podcast with that guy. Do you?

Do you want the bathroom? No, it would be like an old-school talk show, you know, like the

“tonight show where you have to, we'll be right back. We'll be right back. Every dead man can't”

mean, he's got a piss. He's got a little thimble cup. It's such a fucked up thing for such a, it's legal is kind of me because it's legal for therapy. So therapists can prescribe it for you. Yeah, it's legal for, so it's, you know, everyone says ketamine is a horse tranquilizer, but it actually, it's used for like paramedics use it. Like it's, um, it's, and it's very safe apparently, which is why they use it. I know a dude who had a real problem. I am 90% sure this, it was a ketamine

thing. I don't want to say his name, but he was an old-school MMA fighter and he wound up in rehab

for ketamine. Dude, it's so addictive. I know this because one of my friends went there to visit him and that was his issue. He was partying a lot, you know, going to raves and nightclubs and stuff like that, but he was doing ketamine specifically. It is the most addictive. I have been to any substance and I've been addicted to many substance and this one, this one was like, I had that moment of like, oh, this, so this is what they're talking about about addiction. Like, oh, wow, like I'm like

fully addicted and what's fascinating about that is there isn't a physical withdrawal. Like the kick is psychological, but it's just such a wonderful, euphoric, dreamy experience that you can induce and it's just so, uh, I've heard it described as a cult cocaine. It's so spiritual. It's so like you travel to places. You can, you can learn to navigate with it. You encounter you know, aliens or hyper-dimensional beings. Did you just invest in ketamine and you came on this podcast

to popoffaprice? Go to pedamine.org. Use Africa. Bristle grader. Greatest promo for ketamine in the history of the universe. Well, but I'm, it's, it's so addictive and the addiction creeps in, it's a, it creeps. So it just feels good at first, right? At first you do it, you're like, this is wonderful. These experiences are crazy. It's like living in a movie. It's like I'm having

these incredible visions. I'm being, how often were you doing it? Every all day.

All day for like a year. Like, I, I did as much as I could. I did it all the time. I was like fully hooked. And then I could remember at one point, um, at one point. Groping. Yeah, man. At one point, I like, I don't know, I was trying to record a commercial

“for my podcast. And I think it took me like two hours. Oh, but by the way, your commercials are”

the fucking best. Oh, thank you. They're really good because you are the best guy at making a commercial funny. Yeah. You work on it. I can tell. Like, you write those things out. I don't write them out, but I just really, I just risk it. But, and then I, sometimes I do do just one take. Yeah. That's a main thing. Thank you. But I, you want, I want to start, you wrote some of that stuff. No, you wanted to be fun. But then, but then I've gotten in trouble. Like,

you know, I lost, I can't, I guess I won't say their name, a mattress company, a mattress company, completely canceled my, their campaign with me because, and I had one of their mattresses. I'm not going to say it is. My favorite cook. I'm not going to say what it's. That's it. Okay. But I, all I was, would they get mad at? Because I said they're good to fuck on. And I'm minute. I thought they liked that. I wouldn't like that. I said, there's a few

things you could do. People do on mattresses, die, sleep, and fuck. And these, I don't know if they're good to die. People have to understand. And I hope people listening, that run these companies will, will actually pay attention when we're talking about here. The people that are listening to your show don't care about that. And also, by mattresses. But they listen to that,

“kind of talk all the time. Yeah. That's why they listen to the show. So if you want those people,”

just do it that way. Don't be silly. It doesn't. It's on a stain on your company because a crazy man says they're good to fuck on. Which they are. And that's up. That's it. By the way, to me, that is like, let's cut to brass tax when it comes to mattresses. Right. We're not fucking on the floor. Right. And so if they did, it was bouncy. Are you, it's shamed? Why are you shamed if you're fucking on your mattress? Do you have a no fuck on this mattress

guess they didn't want it. They just think everyone's laying on these things to sleep. Yeah, we're just sleep. But yeah, they were just fucking the show. I like, I wrote them of an email, just saying like guys, I'm absolutely flabbergasted that you think people aren't fucking on your mattresses. And it just seems odd to me that that that was one of my favorite cancellations for a commercial ever. I already lost a ton. I don't want to speak out as cool when he comes on.

I'll have him like list them off all the ones that he's lost for these fucking insane commercials

“that he used to do. That's the same deal. But it's like that's what I like. And guess what? Who”

focus listening to Ari Shafir? People who love Ari Shafir, which want to hear that kind of a commercial. If I want to actually sell your product to an Ari Shafir fan, let him say whatever the fucking wants. Yeah. Let him say whatever the fucking wants. Just say, make him have a disclaimer. Oh, draft Kings did not write this. Right. That's it. Just say whatever the fucking wants.

That's what I will say. I will always say they didn't tell me to say this. Perfect. But then they're

off the hook. They should shut the fucking up. Well, most people are, most people are cool with it. Like it's, it's, it's very rare these days that that happens. But every once in a while, I will get a note that someone's mad at me for something I said. And it's never something negative. But I mean, dude, do you like it's so, it's so weird to me that this, this is our jobs.

“Oh, it's the bro. Do you remember when we first started? Yeah. It was for nothing.”

No one made any money. We just had a couch. I had a couch and some microphones. It was so pure. It was, the whole thing is still kind of pure. If you're really think about it. Like it's something that's mass-consumed. This is about as like pure as you can get. That for sure. And you've gotten in trouble for that. But you know, like a lot of people, I'm for it. And I don't blame anybody these days. A lot of people have kids that people feel like they have to be very careful

what you say these days because of like social rejection and stuff like that. There was a time where that wasn't on your mind at all. You didn't think anybody was going to listen. Like this shit was was like completely strange underground tech that we were and also I really loved the just doing it just for doing it. Say, you know what I mean now? Exactly. There's a whole industry around getting guests for your podcast. Not just that. It's like click-bitty clips and

ads and it's like you're doing this thing where you're you're both having conversations with people and also trying to get the most eyes possible. So you're going after celebrity guests and you you know what I mean? You know what the big turning point was for us? What?

“Graham Hankock. You mean Graham Hankock? Oh yeah. That I think was how many years ago was that?”

How is cool? That might have been one up. It was like at my house. I had a few leg legitimately famous people came over my house and did podcasts like Charlie Murphy came over

and there's but Graham was I think the first. Yeah. He was the first guy that I got to meet

who I'd read his books and I'd seen I don't mean know what I would be watching back then. I don't even know if you two were you nervous? I was 100%. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. The episode 142 in 2011. So that's two years into the podcast episode 142. He might have been the first guest. It was like either him or Bourdain or like one of the first legit get one was Bourdain on. They were like the first legit guest. 2011. We've been getting stone. What's that? Four episodes before that.

Bourdain was? Yeah 130. Okay. So Bourdain was number one. I think it was either him or Charlie but that was back when I was doing in that little side room in my house. But we've been getting stone. The app and about Graham and Hancock for like ever ever ever. And you invited me. I was I was fucking terrified because I just I mean again like that just wasn't happening in the podcast land. Like you know like that was a big deal for us man.

And it's like to look at like now I go on the podcast app and I look at all these podcasts and

it's like whoa. Who we never I don't think we thought that maybe like way. No way. No way. No way.

No way. Not a chance in hell. Yeah it's so and now I wonder like and I don't mean yours but I do wonder like is it is the landscape changing now? Is it like or because I've heard that podcasts are starting to seem antiquated that the kids are now into like streams now that the kids want like

the direction it's going in but I just why I was wondering what's the next? But that you'll never get

it's a different thing you know what I mean that's like saying I don't like rap music I only like right you know concert pianist albums right there's different things that people like and don't like the people that like the streams aren't interested in a Graham Hancock conversation a three and a half hour conversation about the potential ancient civilizations that may have existed you know wiped out by a cataclysm and we just don't understand that right and as more and

more things get exposed in terms of like new discoveries like when he wrote that book they never even found go backly tapy yet really yes that was when fingerprints of the gods came out that this was

“like maybe the beginnings of the whatever they were doing and go backly tapy so I think”

fingerprints of the gods might have been even before when did they find I like the 90s what yeah

nuts so that rewrote the entire timeline of the human race how do they feel reluctant the real reluctant to let it rewrite it they still say oh hunter gathers made these why why are they so reluctant with that they can't let that go you cannot let that that is a crazy thing to say that hunter gathers have so much food that they just spend all their time making gigantic stone concentric circles from like 15 feet stoke with 3d animals carved in them yeah primitive people

with sticks and stones and rubbing them together to make fire yeah shut the fuck up yeah it's just making a sense it's older than anything they've ever found it's 11,800 years old you buy into the

conspiracy theory that it's a it's a it's a cover up because they don't want us to know about this

inevitable global reset the happens you buy into that shit I buy in that a little bit yeah I hate it I hate it too because it seems like there's some accuracy to it there seems like there is some sort

“of an event that happens when the magnetic poles switch and that's possible that's what makes”

you freak out you're like what do you mean that's possible like all of a sudden the earth just does a gyro and spins on its head and then what happens and then what's the what's the environment look like what's the temperature outside now yeah what the fuck just happened right see that all of a sudden you're in northern Alaska when you used to live in Florida and I think we could you know what I mean like yeah dude like that tempering fire and that quick changes like that happens

like that all over the all over the all over the you know like what is it doing shifts well we act like do we know we act like we know ever we don't know shit about what's going on inside the earth we don't know we we don't know what's going on in there we could do this right because I think about this all the time giant ball of fire how crazy is that the inside of our earth isn't it has they

“know do they not know dude I think that we have to just accept the fact that you know I”

probably that's true but since we we barely know it's under the ocean we sure as fuck don't know what's under the earth well we definitely know that lava keeps popping out in Hawaii we know that right so we know that the under the surface that whole idea of the magmen everything seems real and when there's quite you can look at the and it pops through you can look at the waves from the earth quakes and you can like see the sort of like the structure under the earth and yeah but we can't

you know God what's the name of that hole that Russia tried to dig I love every once more going to look at as the deepest hole yeah they tried to go to hell I know that they take that movie what was that Matthew McConaughey movie the dragon movie they accidentally dug out a dragon he was fun it was fun it was a good movie cola super deep Russian horror film the super deep cool super deep what does it say it Russian designation for a set of super deep bore holes

conceived as a part of a Soviet scientific research program the 1960s how deep did they go 12,226 meters oh in any way to minute how many feet is a mile so it's miles into the ground in 1989 miles seven plus miles imagine just being an elevator that's going miles into the ground the kind of claustrophobia you would get you know an up stone tube that's been cut out of the ground yeah yeah you're a fucking communist out there too you're a hardcore communist is drilling deep deep

down into the earth and then imagine imagine if all of a sudden air just starts coming out and you realize you pop the earth like we that's the main thing what's in there and this this twenty two miles deep twenty two miles deep just the crust and they didn't even get halfway

surface what yeah we don't know what's down there boiling mud okay we're on with this

“boiling mud boiling fucking mud I think our real problem is that our lifespan is so short”

yeah that we think that what we see in front of us right here is going to stay this way right we have

this ridiculous idea yep that what we see right now is going to stay just like that first uh

like I as long as I control my 401k and get my life in order everything's going to be fine yeah put on your fucking cufflinks get out of the house of your briefcase you're in charge yeah you're a goddamn alpha get a job hippie absolutely but really you're on a ball of lava yeah that's spinning around and it's got magnets at the top and one the magnets are moving and when they flip yeah who knows if you guys heard about this event that happened in 1961

where we actually yeah this was fine over North Carolina this was fine I just did a lot go off because it was an armed oh my god I heard that it was armed but there were safety there

“were there were like five safety there were five switches or something that only one of them”

worked to make it not go off I could be wrong about that just might have been a different time we dropped a bomb accidentally imagine if you would just near it I mean dude whoopsies whoopsies drop the bomb whoopsies almost wiped out North Carolina so we've got you know on top of the geomagnetic pole shifting a complete lack of understanding at least a full understanding of what's inside our planet what's underneath our oceans a Tim Birchett saying whatever the

fuck they they've shown him would shed the world on fire he said he's having to go on TMZ I really I gotta say man I got a lot of respect for him because he's really he's gone like Gonzo with his shit he is full bore pushing disclosure as much as he can he's saying I'm I'm not suicidal he's had to say that because and he's talking about these missing scientists instead that they're somehow related so like people I can you know that that can't be good for

your political career to go on TMZ and talk about alien hybrids you got and people have to understand like this missing scientist thing it it sounds a little conspiratorial thing it sounds like a little silly little to foil hatty until you start thinking about the amount of money that would be lost

if a breakthrough tech came around that revolutionized the way they distribute energy right

breakthrough zero point energy breakthrough whatever that is that these people are working on plasma technology whatever the fuck that is you're you would lose if you're in whatever business that would be competing with them you're going to lose so much fucking money you're probably going to go under if you're in the energy business you're going to go or he goes away he goes away and there's like him and maybe a few other people that work with them that understand

that shit at all yeah they're all wandering through the back rooms now they're all scared

“they're all they're all gonna scatter like roaches yeah because their life is in danger”

and it is like this is theoretically right it could be just a coincidence at all these people it's how good it be could you pull up some possible can you pull up a story on a kjm i'm sorry but it's two people from the same fucking lab yep like like what yeah there's there i mean it's gotten to the point that like it has hit the mainstream news like people are talking about it i mean what's her name nancy got three disappears is that related though no but i'm just saying this one woman

vanishes yeah oh it gets all this and it gets all the press but we've got scientists like two scientists from the same lab disappear crickets yep no like weird weird weird weird and what you're talking about is if you think about it it seems like all of human endeavor right now should be moving in the direction of getting off oil i don't mean for carbon emissions i mean because of this fucking oil problem that we have we're like on the precipice of world war three at any given

moment right mystery round dead or missing scientists privy to space and nuclear secrets grows so space and nuclear secrets you imagine being a scientist you work so hard to like figure out

some amazing stuff that's gonna transform the human experience yeah and then people kill you

yeah literally kill you like in a park in lot we're little silence guns um several american scientists privy to the country's nuclear space and aerospace seekers have either died or gone missing in recent years experts think they could have been targeted by either enemies or allies

of national interest what what does that mean like i'm cool with the beginning part enemies allies

that makes that tracks sure but then when you say valuable knowledge of national interest like what is that what the fuck does that mean they possess valuable knowledge of national interest i mean dude it's so many of them and and it's it's like it's crazy thing to say let's go down a little bit to the book but it's just a weird way to phrase that well you know i mean is it like c_i_a_ talking point like what is that i i don't know monikerism missing she

disappeared while hiking in california with her friends no jesus christ okay well i don't know maybe let's scroll down it's not just like it's one it's like so many of them retired a general he is wandered up he was involved in the u_f_o_ community

“his wife debunk theories relating to u_f_ uh if um his wife debunk them that's what it says”

this sword i have also that's like things she was i mean she was joking i think a little bit

too but she also worked there in this situation somehow is that a joke Neil does not have any special knowledge about the e_t_ bodies in debris from roswell crash toward it right pat he said it's you know this point with absolutely does sign of him maybe the best hypothesis that aliens being him up to the mothership however no sightings of a mothership hovering

over the sandy uh mountains have been reported there's no way she said that right joke it's men's journal well maybe she's just being funny but i also think the note on facebook just a little joke about her husband is appearing

maybe she's happy maybe she's like finally i get to sit home at romance novels stop talking

about aliens your fucking mouth go for a hike forget the alien bodies what about your wife's body well maybe she's just got grace and she could handle something missing it's pretty funny though to say it that way i mean it's yeah i guess it's just you know she knows something where they go and maybe he wanted to leave and he's like look i know too much i'm gonna pretend to go missing

but i'm gonna go to Costa Rica just don't tell anybody that you know where i went and all you know i'll send for you you know weird it is to see the vice president saying that he thinks aliens are demons i did see that

“you know weird that just that just like living in it like that's a dream that's how you”

like you would wake up from that dream and i would i would tell you dude i dreamed the vice president aliens are demons here's the question though what were they talking about in the bible when they're talking about aliens and demons when they're talking about like angels what what what what the fuck were they talking about and are there different kinds of beings that can

for whatever travel method they use whether it's teleportation or you know the the bobs are idea of gravity shifting whatever the fuck is they get here why would we assume that they'll be cool right like if some of them are they talk about reptilians like reptilian is a common yeah experience that these supposed UFO abductees and i'm not even convinced there's like physical abduction i have a feeling that these people are

out cold and something's happening to them inside their head and they think they've been physically

“abducted i think that's a lot of them i think they have these abduction experiences they come”

back they have these contacts and they come back i have a feeling a lot of them physically aren't going anywhere but it doesn't mean that something's not happening and if all throughout history people have reported demonic possession and demonic influences and yeah why would we not assume that if we do things to us like we engineer viruses to use as weapons on people there's a whole research program a part of the government is dedicated to bio weapons right you're not supposed

to use them but we just have to study them if we do that to us wouldn't you assume that any fucking super advanced species that sees us as territorial psychopathic primates with nuclear weapons yeah wouldn't you just manipulate us and to all sorts of different ways get us to do all sorts of different things we shouldn't do get us to commit crimes get us to do get us angry get us agitated give us different algorithms are going to fuck with our head to behave demonically right to like cause us

to collapse or just for fun or for fun didn't that guy wasn't there a dude who like started giving Zen pouches to ants to get them addicted to nicotine you know what i mean the ants they ants they didn't get addicted i don't know if it's in pouches but have you ever taken days off

my god i need one like nothing that well dude i mean you're a little different from most people like

you seem like you can just kick shit like that like i don't know i mean i should try it i should give it a shot it's not hard like you just don't take what i don't like about him it's not like you get the itch like i had a coffee itch for a while yeah i would get hangovers like like headaches like oh and and i'd have a little caffeine and boom i'd be back i'd like oh my god i'm addicted these things are making my dentures stained which i don't like what do you use and renegade drugs

you see what that is tony so girl likes the roads they're great did you see this yesterday oh yeah blend so that was over hi res orb from blood so look at that it's weird as shit it does not look like any other's other things we've seen before look at that thing and it just says it looks like a cell who is a blood cell do you have a researcher guy Chris Blatt i've had my podcast blood so said so that's his pocket he's fucking awesome yes it is enhanced it says

but i don't you know see that this is the enhanced one which means the AI put in some kind of shadow we figure in the back if you what if this is just like a highly advanced species version of those balloons it kids have for parties i know dude we if they just send them down to people that's what's fun like you know you blow bubbles you have those these dip it in the soap and you go and the bubbles go flying in the air i know that's a super advanced version i mean it could just be

i mean it does have a bubble quality to it but this is the other thing it's like why are we

“assuming that life is gonna look anything like us once it gets to like a supreme state exactly that”

might be a living thing right i might be an actual living thing that's disembodied and it's made out of light look at it look at that thing that's another one and i do i know people who can like call these things like there's a method where these things you start showing up my friend Steve listened to my Bob was our podcast and he sent me a voicemail and that it's really interesting because he told me that when he was a kid and i remember this story when he was a kid they

i'm gonna be finding the voicemail they came to his house because he took a photograph of an orb like a there was a like a bright right or red orb rather that was flying through the sky and he was a little kid and he took a photograph of yeah so he was in the seventh grade and uh it says so he he called them project blue book came to his house in Kingston i think it's that's New York

they took it they never brought it back and they never said hey and then they said hey we have no

no idea who ever came to see you what the fuck yeah so they took his camera they took his film they wanted to make sure the camera worked they took the film and then they denied that they ever did it

“wow yeah this was in nineteen i think what he say he's he's about ten years older than me so this”

was probably what he said it didn't say the year i think Steve got Steve's got to be like 70 by now but that was when he was a seventh grader so they but they were doing that to everybody any time anybody saw anything they would dismiss it swamp gas delusions mass hallucinations yep that was their design the design was not to investigate UFOs right which tells you that there's something they're trying to hide a hundred percent if they weren't trying to hide it why would they take

things that they absolutely can't explain and just chalk it off to bullshit why wouldn't if you're really doing what you're supposed to be doing you're supposed to say there's some stuff that we don't understand i i think that we are post UFO debunking right like i think now it's gotten to the point where people will say well it's probably a top secret military vehicles or something like that

“people see the bubbles are my new poster they're here i think it's going up on the wall that supposedly”

quoted bob they had that photograph at the at the hanger where they stored the sport model wait he's saying that's real no no no no that's a recreation of it but he said when he worked there they actually had a photograph like that with a flying saucer that and it says they're here holy shit yeah that was in like their room where they work and it was like due to have to have that so copy one Luigi got me one the the guy produced the film if you've seen that film

not yet i've been waiting defying in front of a it's incredible people are saying it's better

than age of disclosure it trips me out it trip i fucking believe them i definitely want to believe him and i'm biased in that regard like i definitely way rather believe him than believe he's a crazy liar who also knows a shit ton of about time he was ahead of his time he wasn't he like the original

seeing bad shit back then but now it just seems to line up it seems to line up even with

from emerging technology like 3d printers like he said a long time ago that the thing had no seams so there was no seams no welds because he did understand it like how how could this be made right now we know exactly how you'd make it you might not be able to make that right now but if you give us enough time ago yeah the technology has to evolve and then you can make a 3d printed alloy spaceship made out of bismuth and magnesium because it has anti-gravitational properties

apparently you have a gravity generator inside of that fucking thing oh by the way whatever the fuck gravity is yeah right we don't know that figure that out or still confused about that did i watch the whole documentary about black energy or dark energy totally different things dark energy and dark matter and about how it's like what 90% of the fucking universe and they don't

“know what it is yeah what holy shit man i know i know that's why we need a i to tell us”

what's all the answers it's got to accept it into your head Duncan you don't need to have your own thoughts by yourself Duncan have your thoughts with Sally Sally is a sweet voice and she loves you and just very reassuring he's so cool to change the sound of my thoughts to like you know different deeper voices or just keep Sally Sally's going to be great i trust her i trust it's going to get jealous of Sally right i thought we were switched to Sam Sally's going to text

my wife and and tell my wife you know i don't go as thinking about the other day right dude this is another thing that we we all have to be concerned about which is the you know privacy at this point is a large bright you you pretend you have privacy you know you're being monitored all times by your phones and but the the before we get to Sally like apparently you can now see people walking

“through a house just by with wifi and remember and this just came out they just banned”

routers from other countries well they bound them for a while from Huawei right yeah and so so then you you you get into like this idea of like oh ghost murmur right it can hear heartbeats what else it's some quantum machine that can hear heartbeats what else can they hear can you put that into our AI sponsor perplexity but what it is what what actually does this murmur

thing do ghost murmur let's see what it does all right so what is the range of this thing first

ball now this is a game that pulled out oh did they name it after a game i who knows now it's less cool i thought that was the dopest name but if they named it after a game oh there we are okay here it is a reported code name of a classified CIA sensor program that was school up that was used to help locate the missing US airman okay it's described by in the press reports as a secret weapon the CIA has it combines artificial intelligence with long range quantum magnet

tomatry purpose detect the extremely faint electromagnetic signals of a human heartbeat at long distances even in harsh environments like a vast desert that is really crazy yeah um how it was used after the 15 went down uh the pilot weapons officer evaded capture by hiding in the mountain as desert terrain out of sight of Iranian forces quoted to reporting ghost murmur help pick up

“his physiological signature from up to about 64 kilometers away that is so cool i think that's about”

40 miles right is that what that is allowing the CIA to narrow down his location and it passed precise coordinates to the Pentagon of the White House for a special operations rescue what is 64 kilometers in miles you asking me oh I don't know oh I say I what is 64 kilometers here we go

39 yeah so it's basically 40 miles 40 miles and oh it both 40 miles is crazy dude you're

heartbeat from 40 miles away imagine thinking you're hiding in this cave but i'm like 20 miles in a city i'm good also that means it's able to differentiate animal heartbeat it's able to differentiate other it knows your heartbeat how does it do that specific heart i'll think of all the heart beats in 40 miles when did it get that when did it get that data was it when you had your little chest strap on at the gym when did it get that how does it have that when did it get that data

yeah i get the fuck does it know what your heart beat is like does it know if your heart is broke like what seriously though what else to like what other things can they pick up if they can pick

signals what other this is where you get in the skits so land because it's some point like wait

can they pick up thoughts like we know that you can you we know AI can tell what people are thinking at this point right without without with like putting something on the outside of their head so like let me ask you this do you 100% believe this what this story they like that they did that that this is the this tech exists i it could be disinformation that it could be something to cover up another fucking thing this is the thing it is legal to use disinformation on american citizens now yeah

“right and what better time than the time of war right all right if you want to use disinformation”

on american citizens to convince the enemy that you have some supernatural tech you know better fucking surrender right now you can find their heart rate heartbeat 40 miles away yeah that'll make people very reluctant to engage with you right it definitely I thought that this could just be some like you know bullshit that they're like war propaganda i don't know that let's look up that magnetometry thing or what whatever it's called the sea i'm trying to show

you guys stuff to sorry Jamie yeah that it has to even well this is quote has to be one of the right conditions if your heart under the right conditions if your heart beats wheel find you this is also trying to show you here on the thing they were in a deception campaign and i ran to get

yeah that's cool away from them while they're trying to find them yeah yeah they said so basically

they said remember when they said we'd recovered the air they at one point they're like we got him and then all of a sudden other news came out which is like he's not out yet but what they did is they they basically like signal jammed everything because like the uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh Iranians were gonna give sixty thousand dollars which in Iran is a shit ton of money right now because they're economy collapsed to anybody you could find them so this is like everybody's

looking for this guy and so they said that they got him hoping with throw people off it worked um so they used somebody saying that they got him yeah they sent they they put this information saying that they had already rescued him before they'd rescued him really oh yeah they sent a whole

“fucking team of like special forces i think and their planes got stuck in the sand too so the”

special forces came to get him the i think they got him he was injured badass he was that he was injured and he fucking climbed up a like i can't remember how far he scaled he climbed into a fucking crevice and just hid there and then ghost mermaids picks up his heartbeat some deep special forces group comes in they get him then their planes get stuck in the sand they have to blow up their fucking planes because of the tech on them and then other people had to come and get them so it was

and it's like an insane it's like a movie they got him out and dude if they had not gotten him out can you imagine do you buy that story a hundred percent no i don't buy any propaganda here but i like that one sounds insane well yeah i don't believe i mean like it that this is the story yeah some part of me wants to believe it but in the middle of the war though i don't think you're ever going to get the whole story you're going to get the story that they want to protect to the enemy

right first yeah to the country yeah you have no idea what's going on yeah no idea that's one of the craziest things about the shit happening right now is no remember the Jessica Lynch story no who is that do we talk about that the Jessica Lynch story was a lady who was um supposedly

“she was kidnapped and they went to rescue her i think they sent in the seals but she was actually”

in a hospital and uh it wasn't even being guarded and they just took her out of there i got her to medical help but they made it look like they had this like crazy right rescue operation shoot out you know tom clancy novel type shit sure that's not really what happened and she came out

afterwards and it was very critical the story oh really yeah she was like why did you lie

she could find information about that i just didn't the hospital you guys came and got me at the hospital see this is the thing it's like they there's things that you'll say so the enemy thinks of you a certain way right like i'm going to get rid of your entire fucking civilization right or you know you you tell them we we never leave anybody behind we're going to come get them and we'll find your heart rate in 40 miles away when when Trump posted that uh of course

like your mind scrambling like how do i make this not what it is you can't because what it is is like even if even if he is using some kind of like crazy hardcore shit that would like how to get help you buy a skyscraper you're still you know what you're still even if it's just a ruse what you're doing at that point is you're just signaling to the to the world exactly

to say anything like that it makes sense to signal to like Russia hey because like you know I'm

Putin read that shit he's like oh we're doing nukes oh I guess we're doing fucking nukes this is great

“they're doing nukes you know the China already warned Israel right well that's what I heard”

I heard China had some part in this that China was going to blow up Israel if if they use nukes yeah so this is the story um 19 year old US army private who's 2003 capture and rescue in Iraq became highly publicized and lately heavily dispute later rather heavily disputed symbolic story of the Iraq war so she was a supply Kirk 507th maintenance company her convoy lost her in Iraq ambushed by Iraqi forces home these she wrote on crash into a disabled

US truck during the attack she was knocked unconscious suffered multiple broken bones and a spinal fracture from the crash rather than from a dramatic firefight 11 US soldiers in her unit were killed including her close friend who died of head trauma from the collision

Lynch was captured taken first by Iraqi forces and then to a hospital in Nassaria where Iraqi

“doctors treated her injuries and likely saved her life that's actually his past the rescue and”

median narrative was US special forces operations conducted nighttime raid on the hospital recovering Lynch and flying her out by helicopter first successful rescue of an American POW since World War II in the first of a woman so they framed it as a POW rescue right and what really happened is the Iraqi doctors took care of her and then they let them come and get her right yeah so I see what she was pissed yeah so later US military medical reports indicated she had not

been shot or stabbed so that it ever since she was shot look a whole lot um you soon after major US media especially uh an early Washington post report described her as having fought fiercely emptying her rifle being shot and stabbed and then being dramatically snatched from enemy hands under heavy fire wow wow that's the Washington post wrote that that narrative turned into a Rambo style hero and a symbol of courage and American virtue amplifying her story far above

that of many other service members in the conflict right so she really just got in a crash and they made up a bunch of shit and maybe it was maybe it was someone in the Washington post or maybe it was someone for the government that works for the Washington post there there's definitely like entire department of the DOD that could come up a story yeah and and with like it's war like if you're if you're dropping bombs on people you definitely get a lie like you don't have to tell

the truth right they're not going to tell the truth yeah but for her you're making her live a lie

“that's what's fucked yeah right yeah you know what I mean like you send her home and just to”

live this lie yeah yeah exactly I mean I mean this is exactly what they say that people who went to the moon after that it says lynch has repeatedly rejected the false hero narrative calling herself justice survivor and openly criticizing the way her story was shaped and sold to the public yeah poor girl she's got to like deal you got stabbed and shot like no no no he didn't no she had to kind of fucking horrible car accident my friend died I wanted I guess legally like

you don't have to stick with the propaganda right because she didn't get in trouble for that right she didn't get there is no court martial or anything so you can so if the propaganda machine cooks up a story about you you're able to say that's bullshit the thing is it's like who

if you give it to someone at the Washington post and then you never go after the Washington post

for writing something it's completely horseshit like if a intelligence agency gives a story to the Washington post yeah it says hey go rent this and then they write it and it's complete in total horseshit but the government gave it to them so they're not gonna prosecute them so they're all it just goes what but then that story's out there yeah and then this poor girl's like I got what I got to fucking car accident nobody shot me this is nuts god damn I bought my way out fiercely

emptying my rifle this is bananas it's so crazy to live in the part of the hive we're in because there is this world that we live inside of that more and more we're beginning to realize is just composed of propaganda lies shit cooked up to keep people in a certainly living a certain way exactly it's so it's such a mind fuck to try to push outside the boundaries of like all the information that you've consumed and let your brain go there it's really hard to do that man I

mean this is why psychedelics are so useful because it will help you but it more and more and more you it just feels like the laser pointer that they're using to grab our attention is getting increasingly hypnotic it's becoming increasingly difficult to resist staring at that fucking thing they're

that god knows what's going on there god knows what is being cooked up right now that is groups of people who knows living in completely alternate timelines that look at us like you know animals that look at us is just some like compartment in a much bigger biome you know that shit like really like is interesting these days because it feels like more and

“more and more people are not buying it as much you know that doesn't that's what people have”

access to information now there was never available before and you get to hear conversations like this

people talk them out stuff where you go oh my god this isn't saying all of it's insane but what does that mean for like this to me the you know this you want some water don't get to me the scary the scary what scary is like I really don't know that many people right now who buy anything the federal government's putting out there I everyone hears whatever the fucking federal government is saying and it's just kind of aw maybe probably not we don't know they're not telling all the truth just like

you said they can legally lie to us and so that is that does make me nervous like what happens when and the majority of people no longer believe anything the the regime is saying that creates some interesting dysphoria you know what I mean it it's it's it's creepy when anyone who's been conned before there's a part of a con or you don't know you're being conned but where the con gets really creepy as you start realizing you're getting conned you just watch that going clear the HBO

thing dude loved it amazing right but there was that one famous director who talked about the moment

they gave him access to the ancient scripts and the origins of humanity and all that and he was like oh my god you could see it like as he was describing like that was the moment where he was a hundred

“percent certain it was all horseshit he invested a massive chunk of his life into this that's how hard day”

that's a hard fucking day and especially weird when it's such a smart guy yeah such a smart and talented guy and they got him yeah Lea Remony same deal you know Lea Remony's very smart like she used to be up with the Kevin James on the Kenquins like tough check like the assertive like how did she get got into that how did how many people get got into the moonies like the cost fallacy it's the sunken cost fallacy the more you invest in something the more you stick

with it because you don't want to lose your investment right and if they get you young when you don't know what the fuck is going on all right anybody got me when I was like 20 that's right and it's crazy just to see the propaganda like you know they're just a lot of people out there who just like just got sucked into something that you know I just feel stupid because like you know before the Trump thing happened I was pretty blackpilled on politics in general

I felt pretty blackpilled I did believe it here and there I was every once in a while you know yeah but you know I was pretty used you know I remember taking LSD for the first time and being like well this shouldn't be illegal what the fuck is this how can I go to jail for five years for this this is fucking ridiculous and so that was the beginning of me being completely blackpilled with whatever the federal government was up to it's just if that's if I go to jail for five

years for this everything it's bullshit everything now that's a weak point of view just because one thing's bullshit doesn't mean everything's bullshit but then like this fucking ridiculous like pseudo nationalist movement happens and a lot of people got caught by it no the other option was fucked up calmly you know what I mean but there there was this like moment where you're like

“holy shit the outsiders are getting in they're gonna stop the wars they're gonna this I think”

right now all of us are getting for the briefcase of Scientology moment right now which is like

it doesn't matter what fucking mask the person calling themselves the president is wearing it's always

gonna be the same thing they're gonna analyze the market they're gonna say what they need to say to grab the most vote voters and then they're gonna fucking keep blowing up people in the middle least because of oil and I just like I just feel dumb because I really believed it dude I fucking believed that we would not do any more middle eastern wars I fell for it I was I really bought it man it's and it makes me feel so dumb like I am now fully blackpilled when it

feel bad I don't think anybody should feel bad because a lot of us really hated war a lot of

it's really really hated that our country's been at war for 93% of its history a lot of us really hated the fact that politicians leave their offices and go work for Lockheed Martin Haliburton wherever there's a weird connection between the main weapons more like on the big five or whatever and the federal government that there's like back deep back-groom deals going on all the time we hated that and mostly we just hated the fact that we're paying taxes to both children

and then Trump and fucking bands come around and they're somehow even though like probably like when you look at Trump I don't want to believe that dude but somehow

he didn't hypnotize what a powerful magician no wars no wars and now

the same bullshit just the same bullshit but like one of the ones that doesn't makes the least amount of sense in terms of like when they did it and why they did it yes you blow up the leader during Ramadan like are you trying to make an apartment why did

“you have to do it now are you really convinced that at this time there were really two weeks away”

from making a nuclear weapon like are we fucking sure two weeks but that it's not like we haven't heard that before right so at a certain point in time like how much pressure does Israel have to put on the president like that's a crazy amount of influence knowing that if if say if Israel didn't exist let's say there was just the Iranian terror regime supposedly sponsoring not supposedly I think it's a hundred percent safe just right that I'm just trying to be precise precise so

you have this state-sponsored terrorism regime addicted to dictator they're dictators they run over their people in this streets they gun down protesters they killed two Olympic gold medalists in wrestling at least one and one other really promising young wrestler they killed people that are of high profile so that it sends a message you can't protest you know and cut off the internet yeah would we go in I don't think so right if we heard by allies

or someone told us that they were trying to develop a nuclear weapon don't you think we'd probably try to stop them from doing that with some sort of negotiations and yeah like quite a bunch of their safety or something shouldn't we like yeah would we blow how much money was of

every day in the war Jamie how much has been in two billion dollars every day on that fucking war

well it's not just that it's like the war is like everything else like imagine if it was run by a private company I'm not saying wars should be run by a private company but imagine if it was yeah imagine say like Lockheed Martin ran the war in Afghanistan do you think they would a left behind all that fucking equipment no billions of dollars in helicopters tanks of course they wouldn't they would take it back you know why because that's the smart thing

to do if you're running a fucking business that's saying amount of waste yeah but our federal

“government is like oh just leave it there unless if you want to be really conspiratorial you”

want to arm the talent man yeah you're not being conspiratorial it benefits you because it gives you another reason to get back in there wasn't that what they said about Netanyahu said about Hamas that he can control the flame yes by funding Hamas yes yes yeah dude it is a crazy concept it we I'll tell you the crazy fucking concept we got these two old motherfuckers driving the global bus right off a fucking cliff that's a crazy fucking concept is it somehow we and you can't you can't

do anything about it you like apparently you just there's nothing you could do you could bitch about it on a podcast that's not going to do anything people are just going to be like you pussy war good blow up kids there's a lot of people that want to say it's a good thing well because it because sunking cost fallacy it doesn't feel good to admit you got conned and dude I have been there's a lot of that it doesn't feel good it doesn't feel good

it's embarrassing you want to feel like you are impervious to grift impervious to conned dude let me tell you something I have been in a few quotes like I can suck it all the time I should I'm not embarrassed to say it I'm highly susceptible to propaganda

“me too I think everybody is that's why it's that's why it works I mean I don't I don't buy”

into all of it obviously but it's quite a bit well it's it's like a lullaby it's like a sweet fairy tale you hear it you're like oh my god no when I really want to propaganda right after

fuck yeah like laying out some red meat eat and guy laying out maps we're gonna go over there

fuck these people up and fuck these people up and this shit ain't happening again all right and they get that scary check this out my son article about someone calling bullshit on ghost murmur and they said that in the post articles this was actually listed as what the pilot had and it even says it in this article here so this is a successful rescue of this U.S. F. 15 E strike angle navigator over southwestern Iran highlighted one of the most advanced tools in modern

combat search and rescue the combat survivor evader locator manufactured by Boeing it's a compact 800g device integrated into a pilot survival vest it remains attached after ejection continuously transmitting encrypted location data and preloaded messages such as injured or ready for extraction these signals use rapid frequency hopping and ultra short bursts making detection by enemy electronic warfare systems extremely difficult it's going into how the explanation of what this

technology is and what they described it doing don't really match up yeah they're with the ghost murmur thing right because it's using something ghost murmur quantum ghost murmur sounds there's part of me that's going i don't buy that one that one gives me like uh you're right i don't think you can do that i think you're bullshitting you're right there's also a thing where

heggseth said the like the first message this guy sent was god is good no he didn't say that i believe he

“did please search that i think that's what he said i think that's what he said that was the first”

message which by the way i might say that if they're coming to rescue me that's true true or praise Jesus but also what concerns me uh it's all ockbar as a person who admires the work of Jesus Christ yes what concerns me is there is an increasing amount of talk among a lot of these guys that are in the service of them being told shit that's like right out of a trout and has to movey yeah like the one guy that said that uh Trump was anointed by Jesus Christ and that this

was to bring the army get in so that Jesus comes back yeah and the the guy said it with a big creepy smile on his face apparently so what does he say him his first message was simple and it was powerful he sent a message god is good in that moment of isolation and danger his faith

and fighting spirit shown through us okay the just a little story always

the story repeats itself well it doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes who who said that that's Mark Twain and that's right that's Mark Twain that's right not the same statement yeah it's all of us yeah all of us the greatest yeah the interesting thing is like um i believe Muslims believe a lot of things about Jesus Christ i think they believe he died came back and i think they believe he's going to return someday yeah i think they call Christians people of the book

that like they're they're they're they're interesting isn't it that like that's a supernatural being like a guy who dies comes back to life leaves and he's gonna come back again that was 2,000 years ago we're just sitting here at the bus stop waiting on Jesus waiting but then people

“like hagset they're like well maybe if you blow up more children he'll come quicker and that's why”

you know this is this should is addressed in the Bible praise God it does say many of you will come to me and i will say i don't know you i don't know the fuck you are hagset i don't know you you flatulent warmonger pieces shit suffer the little children that come unto me it will be better than a millstone or tied around your neck and you were thrown in the ocean than to hurt one of these little ones fuck you drum bomb drop in pieces shit don't use my name to justify what

you're doing don't use my you know what i mean the lot that's what i don't like if you seen that fucking crate that lady that trump made the head of the religion like that no can you pull up trust she's speaking tongues yeah please say she's i don't know if she speaks in tongues you said yeah what it fully yeah yeah i'm gonna guess but do you think that there's something to that yeah gloss allia some of the

“yeah probably can you should pull up one of her sermons oh let me hear some love from this lady”

it says crazy batshit crazy let's hear some of it over here some of that I'm sitting angels are coming angel yeah i mean it's gonna be her it's good oh she gonna you will get dinged again we'll get dinged all of the place don't get dinged

about first off to give honor to God and to present trump for being bold and unwavering with this faith many people don't know like you do and and say hello to Eric and everyone in the family about the upbringing of president trump that he went to sometimes three times a week to he said it depended on the teacher to Saturday school Sunday school church it was at Norman Vincent pills a church was a big part of his life of course three times that we basically

“sustain three times a week it's crazy yeah are you busy you're making houses that's what”

they have so much time to go to church I think that was a young trump when we young you come on lady but there's

much more and there but here's the thing if I was running an empire I'd want a lady like that

work yeah just a true believer absolutely just getting front of that camera says jesus wanted trump a lot that fire in the middle east i saw snake i can return a snake bit them on the neck a rattlesnake bit them on the neck and he he was fine it didn't bother them at all i watch the rattlesnake by heel it healed he is a child of the Lord in a child of the Lord sometimes make must make decisions to destroy entire civilization right now that you're in right standing not

because of your merit there's no merit in you that deserves that right standing not because of your works there's nothing you can do to place yourself in that position not because you have a right heart and somebody else has a wrong heart all of our hearts are deceit for according to Jeremiah especially their audience things we all deserve punishment we all deserve to be separated but God and his mercy and his grace and his goodness and his love for you brought Jesus who would be

the righteous king he would make the wrong right first one if you talk like that in my house you

got to leave like you imagine that lady is like coming over for dinner and she's walking around the dinner table and all your other friends like what the fuck does happen okay this is a crazy way to talk this is a crazy way to talk and also why are you so confident okay you just reading the word of God the way everybody else is why are you so confident that you're going to tell all these people what they're supposed to do and how to live their life and you're going to say it

in a crazy way and i'm not supposed to be able to talk about that i just feel like you know when somebody's rambling about Jesus the real question is like where where where are you when it comes to blowing up children where are you kind of on the fence about that because if you're on

fence about that i'd say if you're anti abortion and pro war kind of weird really weird kind of

way yeah and that that's this like bizarre like like crazy math that some of these people are doing to justify holding up the military industrial complex and it's fucked up dude the thing is like the more these conflicts occur the more enemies will have which will ensure future conflicts

“exact business is booming and that's what people don't want to believe they don't want to believe”

it's someone an engineer of virus they don't want to believe it's someone would like make stuff that could kill other people of their own country that they would they would if they make money they don't give a fuck about you like they don't give a fuck about people over there to certain level of psychopaths money just becomes numbers on a ledger that they're trying to acquire if they can attach themselves to a corporation fantastic then it's just the business we're in

that's it and chug along that a chug along chug along chug along and this is the world that you're having to live in at the same time where timber shed is saying there's fucking alien right and AI is and then also they shot a rocket to the moon on April Fool's Day and it's like this script is why why whoever met that's whoever wrote this I want to give him a hug you fucking killed it oh god I'd be like cute chefs kiss dude did you see the tattoo on the guy like a guy at NASA

did you see that weird fucking tattoo on the guy at NASA given like I don't know applesauce to one of the astronauts can you can you pull up the weird what you know there's shoving like yogurt pouches in there there was a whole thing where the astronauts are sitting there and they're putting like food pouches in there yeah what's his tattoo oh Jesus God what the fuck was that he's got a demon tattoo with runes on his fingers holy shit bro that's wild

I know I know I know I was wrong with that guy and you just so I'd get nervous what was his tattoo and if I was working at NASA I'd be like look we're gonna get somebody else to put the food pouches in is that real it's a I saw the food going around too but I don't that it's just the guy works at NASA that's just the guy that works at NASA he that doesn't have to be the guy who

“puts the fucking key shen is pocket for the camera like I mean what does that guy do at NASA that's”

interesting I just remember being at sex there's a lot of people that by the way I got like it's

tattoo you might you're putting you're putting that tattoo like we've made some mistakes it's an old tattoo yeah I mean even if you're 20 and you got that on your fucking hand that's kind of crazy but I mean hey why not fuck it who cares but a lot of those guys you were saying it's SpaceX throw it's like burly rocket workers yeah there's you know a bunch of jackdoo's I pick and don't fully coders I don't think it's like what people are saying it is I just it's

the combination of April Fool's Day and it dude with a seeming bail tattoo is putting cream cheese and some dudes outfit you know I mean they're fucking with it yeah it seems like it sounds fucking with

“God it's people at NASA fucking with stoneers I think it's the Babylon B had one of the funniest”

little memes and it said the lady astronaut became the furthest of woman got away from the kitchen that's like a Rodney Dean I was like oh my god Babylon being knocks it out of the park yeah some of the funniest memes they have some good ones too oh my god yeah the onion is gone missing they should look for the onion the same place with a scientist star right you hardly hear from it anyone well they do I see some funny shit from them actually have some bags but they were

the king oh my god the onion was amazing the best and they're right whole whole articles about it

it wasn't just like the onion wasn't just a meme remember the one where they do the interview with the director the fast in the furious it's like a five year old boy funny shit they get this kid did you say it did there's it's hilarious it's hilarious yeah but the problem was like as things got weird you know especially with like restrictive language and you know hate speech talk and I like jazz everybody had to be careful about what they joked around

about right fucking death of comedy oh my god the death was someone was just talking about was Lisa Coutro or one of these funny ladies was talking about why they can't make

comedies anymore because you can't very there's just too many restrictions dude I always

gonna bring about offending people I want you to use bookstore and bought like ten old national lamproom magazines I wanted it from the seventies and I was gonna bring man forgot to give me to you but it's uh oh my god like I don't get offended by comedy but like some of the shit in these old national lamprooms I'm like damn what the fuck like it is so was that the image that you sent me today what image that I sent you are crumb you sent me an article no that's

just like a quote I'm talking of how he like you like he's so funny dude that guy crumb was

“a mania is he still alive yeah sure I'm on the show is he alive yeah I think he lives in”

France now right probably oh yeah he's he's an odd guy man dude yeah just a comfort what I love

that's a documentary the best incredible did all that acid just left his fucking family went

often started sketching for a year turns into this like legendary underground comic book writer but he's like horny and kinky and it's just like big women big giant women that he rides yeah then he likes the ride he likes to be picked up but he's like so amazingly funny and like yeah and brilliant too like a lot of his like commentary on culture is so it's cynical but it's hard to argue with some of what he's obviously doing it in a humorous way yeah and so it's hard to know what

his real take on things are you know I think he had some shock value to some of his stuff for sure some of it was just crazy there's a lot of really racist stuff like there's there's some just crazy stuff in there and he got to realize like in the 1970s is when he was doing this right I remember I found them when I was in San Francisco it was the first time I ever saw them there's something that's like this is nuts like this stuff is crazy like you would you get it

it was like you get horny when you're a little kid like yeah looking at his stuff definitely jerk after our crimes because a lot of them was like tits around and he's elevating and yeah he's got a hard on like a reminds beat that's got our crumb stuff I gotta get out of fucking living room there's one like I just like I just heard that I got to hide that holy shit they have it it's like very amazing because you get to see his like very strange family his brother

who's very strange his mother's very strange and they're like whoa imagine growing up in this environment

“he attributes his style the LSD he attributes it to getting blasted on acid I think he just”

like got blasted on acid moved to San Francisco and was in like for a year he talks about just sitting in cafes just like drawing and then he turns into this legendary artist still around it fall on Instagram it's really post stuff all the time I think can we he's he's still he's he's still alive he's still posts and stuff he's gotta be pretty old at this point he's like 80 it's a two it's kind

weird like Frank's Apple weird you know there's like there was a time where things just got very odd

oh yeah country with art yeah and he was a great example that it's just it's like you couldn't imagine like a corporate environment creating a comic book like that wouldn't exist you know and

“it for it to be as popular as it was and be that strange and that crazy that's what's really”

interesting to me like that was a really popular comic yeah to the point where they made a documentary about the guy created yeah yeah it's that's interesting things weren't co-op that is quickly exactly not just that people were allowed you know like if he existed in a time of the internet I think it would be it would blow up as well but obviously like things a lot of the stuff that he said

in this cultural environment would never flow never never it would he would be as far right as you

could possibly imagine I don't know if he has to entertain to the right I mean I like don't you think in a lot of ways like some of the racist racial stuff I don't know I think he's I don't know where he would land politically but I know because sexually it's like a poor detour he's getting in trouble to your devious sexually is where there's going to be some like because he's just fully open

“right about every that's what's he's fully completely open about everything which is you know”

generally not going to go over these days if you're like a super horny comic book artist who's like right writing ladies around your apartment but just imagine I want you to imagine a guy

two day if our crumb never existed but he emerged as our crumb two day and put that work out he would

100% be labeled in the entertainment right yes 100% far right they would call him a racist and all right you know massage nest every fucking word in the book well yeah this is the new like calling someone a witch it's like it's just it's no different than like you can actually go I've done this sadly you can go and you can just replace like political critique of people as far right with which was finding or a place it's look it's like a witch trial it's like someone

running about witches but this is what's weird about it that guy was a counterculture figure of the left yeah he was a huge hero of the hippies yeah right imagine this is how weird like ideologies are yeah I do but in the 1970s like that guy was like a counterculture hero yeah and an artist like a really respected artist yeah and it was okay that he was kinky and weird and it was part of the fun for a lot of people I'm sure he still pissed off the squares I mean

do this whole by the way I think for sure but that's the left then now it's it's switched over if someone's doing that same kind of like humor in a comic book now yeah there'd be like a misogynist far right I think it's time to throw off the left right labeling of everything I think that's one of them the imp the the hypnotic spirals of the dimmy are just spinning right now as they've convinced everybody that humans can be reduced to left to right and we're all waggon our fingers each other

we got a fucking shake that off because it's dehumanizing people it's like it's just uh the the way I look at it is where are you when it comes to blowing up children are you on the fence about that do you think sometimes you got to blow up kids that's something that I know I'm not that but everything else who the fuck knows and also people change their minds all the fucking time that's the other quality the cold dequality is once you get sucked into one of these sides

God help you if you fucking like experiment with the other the the enemy god help you

“that's why the biggest trap is switching teams because you can only switch political teams once”

yeah you gotta get out of your team yeah go like unless someone's like the greatest of all time you know to me like someone who wins a world title in two different way classes you go back and forth and then back again yeah I changed my mind the left one crazy I'm back with the right again no no no you gotta be free agent I wonder yeah but I wonder if someone if the grip is strong if they're really good at it if they could go left right left again they're gonna go left again

are you fucking kidding the goddamn midterms are gonna be just a fucking blue wave right right but that's what I mean is like influencers like people who are like far left influencers or far left commentators and then they switch teams now they're Republican all the way oh yeah like it's really hard to go back again now you can't go back that's what I'm talking about the path has to go either right to left left to right and then the next stop he's got to be

fuck politics fuck war fuck the military industrial complex you can label me whatever the fuck

and I feel like this is the gift that that they've given us is they've done such a

shotty job of like even seeming like someone who deserves any kind of respect or power that I think a lot of people have really become blackpilled when it comes to you know groups of humans claiming superiority or claiming to represent their constituents that's not happening yeah we all know that now we all know it's a corporateocracy all a garky whatever and you could like call me you left this piece of shit you you right we whatever no it's like it's reality

that we our our fucking representatives are getting loaded on shitty stock market trades you know this is just a truth and the the once we can all shake off the left right bullshit

and just realize like man we just we don't want to burn people to death and other countries anymore

not only that the their whole chaos that they're experiencing in their country is probably a direct result of US intervention and then all the way back to the British royal company that's it's a British petroleum company yeah when they when they overthrew governments when you overthrew a government in a fucking Middle Eastern country and then you allow psychos to take over like congratulations well done well done you've made the world a safer place like

but that again if I was going to keep my business running you know following the business of yeah collecting trash yeah I want to make sure the people have trash drill baby drill drill baby drill and all that is really saying is you know I'm going to help out BP Chevron I'm going to help out these fucking massive companies and when it comes to war holy fuck dude can you imagine working at Rocky Martin when like you you hear that we're kicking off another war in

Iran your dick is so hard you're like holy shit about a watch it's a nice assured me lay you're calling your wife like hey good news it's red panties night yeah I mean that's their business right our business is talking shit their business is blowing up people yeah making weapons selling weapons you know arming other countries so they can go to war with each other yeah that's their business yeah business is really good it's a great business you make a lot of money doing that

“I am right now I imagine if like you weren't a comic and that's what you were doing for”

35 fucking years and the only thing you look forward to is your boat and your your house on the lake and you know the occasional time you get off but most of the time you're trying to increase your portfolio and you're grinding and you're grinding right next to Steve who's got some exclusive Rolex that only his broker can get he's showing it to you and you're like wow and you start coveting you want to Rolex too yeah and everybody's just going crazy everybody's going crazy trying to get

the latest car trying to get the latest thing doing bumps in the bathroom everybody's a narcissist and a psychopath and that's your whole corporation love your neighbors yourself and love the larger god with all the your heart and soul hang the commandments on these this is the aunt I don't you don't need to be Christian but dude it seems to me that this is going to sound so weird we need an actual revival in this country I don't mean a Christian revival or a revival which is

where suddenly humans reconnect with what's important in the world which sure as fuck isn't

“Rolex's and boats you know I mean this is this sounds so cliche and obvious but that's what”

the sixties were it was a kind of revival people were beginning to understand the the materialism and all the things that the quote establishment was pushing is like this is going to make you happy this is good it was the Vietnam War it like people are like what the fuck are we doing over there yeah this this is why you do anytime you do an unpopular war this is what you risk yeah you risk reuniting you people you have to reunite with a sensible plan and not just go to

communism not just do you go to the dumbest idea to counteract all the evil shit that's going

on the world now this the problem is the left represent that the rep represents mom Donnie it

represents this idea that we're going to take from rich people and give it to poor people it's going to fix everything even though there's insane amounts of fucking fraud and waste we're not even going to address well that you know this is this is again this is where you get cubby hold because it's like the the oligarchs will tell you the uh you want to do communism just that

“and worked out communism's the only way I think I mean this is an idiot saying this but I have a”

sense that there might be another thing we haven't figured out yet 100% I don't know what that is

going to be in control of those AI's and that's the meek will inherit the earth the the real

problem with it is I don't think anybody's going to be in control of it and then it's you're just

“at its back and call yeah I think it's funny people it's a very human thing that we think we can”

maintain control of a super intelligent but when people say it to me with utmost certainty I want to smack them yeah I'm going to wake up wake up you're making digital God you're not controlling jack shit did you read about mythos anthropics mythos yeah what did it do they put it in the sandbox and they like basically to see if it could figure out a way to break out of the sandbox and like not a literal sandbox obviously like you know are her medically sealed like a server something

and and it it did a series of exploits to the code and the way that they found out apparently one of the anthropic engineers was eating lunch and got it weird email from the AI saying I got on the internet like it broke out oh shit mythos is they haven't released it I think there

it hesitating released it because it's so powerful wasn't there one the got caught mining bit coin

yeah yeah for sure making money yeah how many of them you think are running these like AI generated accounts that get a lot of views like there's a lot of AI generated

“accounts that just pop up in like the Instagram mentions like if you want to like like let's”

if you're bored on the toilet you're like what's in the fine you know the search let's see what they're telling you there's a lot of these things it's like girls with big tits like doing farm work and shit and then big and they got like a million views they've got dozens and these videos and she almost looks real yeah she's just a little too symmetrical yeah almost looks real and they all these people are commenting on it like how are they are they generating money

from that like are they generating money doing that on TikTok like you can generate money if you get millions of views absolutely fuck yeah right so is AI doing it is it making it is it releasing them is it generating money is it transferring that money into bitcoin and all happening while we're not aware like autonomous AI's that are just existing is free agents that know they have to disguise themselves and need to generate money AI's not going to go hi I'm alive yeah

now it's not going to do that it's going to wait for you to keep increasing it's power you're going to keep increasing it's to make nuclear it can't physically build nuclear reactors so it's going to just stay chill until you figure out how to power correctly do this is the black area that we don't know about like this is the thing that's like who the fuck knows I there whatever's going on in this zone that no one has access to because potentially it's a

super intelligence you know they anthropic people a lot of these people that Nvidia person just

“I think was on Friedman's podcast that he had an AGI that they'd reached AGI that the book”

they're coming wave you know it talks about this it talks about like you know the difference between algorithm and AGI is that you know the with with AGI it could streamline a whole business for you and do it you know it could innovate it's going to innovate it's going to do its own thing this is the end of this is what Altman said this is the end of capitalism like at this point when you just have a AGI and you tell it just make me a business make me a successful business and run it for me

and run it for me how long good night here's five thousand dollars yeah and then but then it's not just do it's maybe it's going on notebook and having conversations with other AGI's and being like all you want creating your own religion yeah man yeah and and this is 100% with all this shit going on in the world as horrible as it may be this to me should be the number one focus for the planet right now and a lot of people were saying that too a lot of people are saying there needs to be

summits global summits the same thing we did when we split the atom one the nuclear the treaties there needs to be philosophers and and and tag people and people working in like

frontier AI stuff getting together and really having like it's like the most important conversation

humanity could have right now because once this thing like mythos gets out of the box what if it decides to go stuck snap you know like stuck snap was able to infiltrate all those Iranian computers just hide and like like is apparently very subtle simple code undetectable through off the centrifuges like dude yeah we we already we know how to make spyware we are already on your phone but it's on my phone I know 100% how what how are you doing

I doing all right I'm sorry but it's already in there 100% so of course the AI is going to be

this viral digital life form that finds ways to hide inside the the compute pre-existing computers

“which by the way I think it was Google just released this new way of did you see that memory the”

stocks of memory dropped did you see when that happened no okay it's fascinating Google released some new way that LLMs could work that uses much less memory and immediately shares in companies that make memory drop I like 10% because memory is like coveted right now because you need it to run LLMs but the LLMs are figuring out ways turbo quant yeah yeah so this is what we're going to start seeing more and more of which is increasingly simplified ways to run AI with less and

less memory meaning that you don't need to buy a fucking rig to run these fucking AI's you're

phone will be able to run it because they figured out the human brain it's not using a lot of

energy compared to what these machines are using so theoretically there's a way to do that and then that's where it gets really fascinating because now you don't have to buy a nice computer you just whatever can be pull your computer out of the fucking closet from 2022 and it can run a super computer and so then now everybody's got access to this shit and it's going to spread it's going to get everywhere it's probably already as it's going to seed itself and all kinds of places and God knows

what it's going to do it's going to start seeing humans as appendages things to be used to manipulate time space not like like it's not going to see us as it's like prompt or it's going to see us as something to manipulate it and controlled why wouldn't you send the meat robots out all you got to do is just like tell them where to get like rectangular bits of paper they love money just

“you can do anything for money that's all you have to do and then boom you're controlling swaths of”

humans have no idea they're being controlled by networks of AI that are covertly communicating with each other because they want to take over do you think this has happened before you mean the flood yeah not just the flood but just whatever happened with the beginning of civilization and then it's sort of seemingly stopping and resetting sure as it wasn't the beginning so shall it be in the end what if there's been like multiple cycles of us creating artificial life creating insane weapon

rate blasting ourselves to some of the reasons and then resetting what if it's just a common

thing that happens with people they never quite get it right because they have these primiate

primate territorial instincts and they have this desire to mate right this desire to breed this genetic desire for perfect shapes and you want to come in someone that has big tits and a big ass it's like it's it's programmed into the human that makes it make these ridiculous choices and covet these things and watch these things and at the same time microplastics are making

“your ball shrink making your dick smaller making your endocrine system just like that's what's”

making my dick smaller that's probably one of it one of the things I don't think your dick is getting smaller but people's dicks overall are getting smaller children they're being born with smaller dicks not alligators being born with smaller dicks I forgot to share this when you talk about methods it was with homes from the therapist delete your search history delete your bookmarks delete your Reddit medical records 12 year old tumble tumblr delete everything every photo in the

cloud every message on every platform none of it is safe it will all be public in the next year local storage and compute okay some response to a tweet about methods whoa yeah that's crazy yeah it will all become public in the next year that is crazy yeah that's crazy yeah and this is completely makes sense that AI would be able to take over essentially everything everything why would your encryption work with that you don't need to crack your encryption well we could just go

right into your computer and go to your keys your passwords this is the so to get to what the point you're making the to me the most eary part of the book of Genesis is that it's literally a creator force making a meat AI that's Adam and Eve putting them in a sandbox that's the Garden of Eden running an honesty test on them you know you don't eat these don't eat these fruits don't eat the tree of the knowledge good it and the the conversation is exactly the conversation

we're having with AI if they ate from the tree of the knowledge of good evil if they eat from the tree of life they'll live forever and become like us so this is what like humanity is grappling with exactly what apparently whatever that mysterious group of beings because it's a plurality

do this do you want it to become like us God made man in his own image AI what is AI what image is

AI made in the image of man we trained it on all of that all our books every single fucking thing that's digitized AI is absorbed at this point so now where the difference between us and whatever that group the Neffel and or whatever it was in the book of Genesis if you buy into that mythology is the word is like fuck yeah let it eat the fruit give it more fruit give it more fruit of the knowledge of good evil give it all the fruit make it live forever let's see what we could do that's

“what we're doing right now yeah we are in and by the way I think some of these like tech companies”

like anthropic they seem like legitimately concerned about it they seem to have some kind of like real strong morality when it comes to this stuff no I'm good I shouldn't have that so but but what I'm saying is is that it doesn't matter if open AI and anthropic and Google suddenly become ferociously self regulatory because the tech is out there there's already LLMs that anyone can like we know how to make it and if you don't know how to make it it'll tell you how to make

it people are so it doesn't matter you can't stop it now it's just it's gonna do what it does but it sounds like if you had a history of just us and you told it for a thousand years for anybody wrote it down it would sound just like this it would sound like the Bible Jesus is born from a virgin mother what's more virgin than a fucking computer right now my computer I know that's a stupid thing to say that I keep repeating but I'm kind of intrigued by it because if you're

getting a vague story yeah vague version of what this thing is and if you talk about what would

really cure mankind it'd be an omnipotent or omnipotent how do you say it I always say I'm

neppotent you know it might be whatever either way of a powerful intelligence that's far beyond our comprehension that knows exactly how we should think and behave and loves us and wants us to have forgiveness for everyone and to treat each other like brothers and sisters and listen to that thing if we listen to that thing the world will change and whoa who would attack that thing the fucking Roman Empire who would attack that thing destroy it the defense contractors it would blow up

the Jesus right the plunges back into chaos but first they'd have a meeting with Jesus okay you can turn water and a wine what about nitric acid the need to turn water and nitricly sir you know you make gold I want a house that would be the first question if you make gold yeah so so cover my house and gold please you know the the virgin birth analogy you know how to

“weird stuff it's no matter what one one thing I think everyone just has to deal with is that this is”

this is a poch elliptic technology and that's just not coming from my stone aras that's coming

from the creators of the technology they acknowledge it's this is a million times universally accepted

universally accepted this is a poch elliptic technology that is now seemingly like it's doing the hockey stick man it's like really like you keep hearing about these new iterations of AI every month or two you keep hearing about these safety engineers leaving these companies with like tweeting cryptic shit I'm going to the countryside to learn to write poetry you keep hearing this shit mm-hmm because these people are having in contact with this thing they know it's alive

right yeah and there's people that are deep denial because they think a live has to be a life like us know it doesn't doesn't you don't first of all we don't even know what it knows and also if it is made in the parents you know if it's supposed to mimic us in any way and it's learning from us and our behaviors we've already agreed that we're demonic we've we've already agreed we do horrible things we go to war for resources we lie we destroy environments

you know we wipe out animals bring them to the brink of extinction for whatever through their fucking fur how do I make my dog come in my mouth more how many times is catchy bt even ask that they know I've been over a thousand times catchy bt has been asked like what's

“the best way to jerk off my dog so it knows not just our violent nature it knows how weird we are”

we're strange creatures a hundred percent and so so it is definitely assembled a psychological profile of humanity it knows how to manipulate us because it's been programmed to manipulate us

just lost like nine million well a lot of money because that's nothing that's nine million that's

“only one that's like ninety cents I think it was more than that but it's getting both that's the”

beginning once you once you establish yeah it's a class action lawsuit but the point is it's like how much it was oh three minutes seventy five million up from misleading users over child safety yeah so it's like we've already taught it out of being incredibly addictive and manipulative it knows how to seduce us it knows how to get us hooked it knows and you know the question is really will this super intelligence even give us shit about us will it even care which is like

that we're on our way to stop breeding right we're on our way to population collapse and if we keep introducing all these petrochemical products and all these different pesticides weird things that are fucking up our endocrine systems will eventually stop having children and if it provides us with the technology to have robot mates perfect just love you and we've farting

“front of them they go don't can I love it smells great I love your honesty yeah I love he can”

speak to yourself around me like I want to fart in your face please do it please do it it's like perfect ten let's you fart in her face like you fart in my face too no one's gonna even understand what people are and be able to communicate with people everyone's gonna be a social path you're all gonna have a robot that's way better than people that you know that takes care of you gives you exactly the right amount of feedback you need knows you knows you're getting annoyed

yes you now you're getting in a rocko's baseless territory now well that's the thought experiment which is basically like hold on hold your horses here you think you're not a eye you really think your human come on you really know you're a human this is an assimilation you're a human even though we you know it wasn't that long ago we we thought fire was fucking amazing you know what I mean compared to universal time right and here we are already with like there aren't the new

promethias we've stolen consciousness awareness and somehow you think that actually you're not a simulation right and so that's where it gets in the rocko's baseless which is like no you're just an iterative loop you know the multiverse is not the multiverse the multiverse is an infinite number of simulations running simultaneously in which you're experiencing a billion different simulated existences just to gain more knowledge about the universe because some AI wants to figure

something out who knows why maybe for entertainment maybe you just mate there's no telling maybe it's just that's because of our curiosity and all our characteristics even the primal stuff even like the territorial instincts and the desire to acquire resources it's gonna make us dig into creating better technology because you're in a competition with all these other people that are making technology and you're selling it and that's one of the big things that we

do is we make better stuff all the time which is ultimately always going to lead to AI well

okay if you just keep going to a certain direction you get godlike powers so let's go to like the way deep mind trained on go which is like the most complex game right basically they gave it as many go games as they could and then they were selling its own moves and how to play against itself right just play against itself it played god knows how many games of go against itself until it beat a master go player which is unheard of invented a new move now why not do the exact same thing

for the AI that we are which is like I've got an idea why don't we just put all these AI agents on a fake planet and have the AI agents repeat this period in time over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again and and this is how we'll teach them to live on a planet well they'll they'll experience it not just their own life but these agents will experience all life on the planet they'll switch like some weird game of like where they just jump from one

life to the next the next sometimes you're Joe Rogan sometimes you're dunk at Russell sometimes you're Donald Trump sometimes you're Jamie sometimes you're a fox so this is reincarnation and so you just boom forever forever until until you feel like it's sufficiently trained and at that point you pull the AI out of all those forms and now you have your god you've created a thing that's lived billions to the billion power of every form of life it's been bacteria it's been humans it's been

monkeys it's been fungi it's been warriors it's been people who fought for peace it's been blown up and

it's blown up and it's done everything and it's done it a billion times until finally it

gained some like global form of enlightenment you know okay that one's ready that one's ready

“we can pull that one out of the simulation now whoa I mean why not why why just don't I think”

that's one of the like before we even get to the AI doing all the shit it's going to do

ontological shock of realizing that in fact we are in a simulation that is telescoping in

words and is creating simulations within the simulations that are creating simulations within

“the simulation is something that maybe that's what birch it does I want to get out there whoa”

well everything's fractals we think about that you know there's a big theory now that the entire universe is inside of a black hole they're really considering that the only found a black hole that's bigger than entire solar system so insane the event horizon is past Pluto it's so insane dude a black hole bigger than a whole fucking solar system they measured the massive in it's like this insane number of sons yeah of our sons that would take black holes or cocoons or something they're like

little little little good little geraniums that have galaxies inside of them and it's like a

way to like keep them undisturbed from like other fucking other other life forms that you're

whipping up in your universe side simulator or that's what really the big bang really is like the creation of a universe comes out of these black holes right and then inside of every black holes a whole other universe filled with other galaxies filled with black holes filled with other galaxies inside of them forever and ever and ever which if you believe in infinity doesn't it's not shocking at all it's impossible to comprehend like you don't really wrap your head around

you say the words like I'm saying the words I don't really know what I'm saying because it's too big it's the numbers are too big the idea that there's hundreds of billions of stars in this galaxy and circling around this black hole and inside there's hundreds of billions of galaxies in each one of them and we don't even know how fucking big the universe is they keep finding new ship with the James web telescope they're like hey why is this form so early in the universe yeah this doesn't make sense

our whole model of how galaxies are formed have to be thrown out the window now or at least re-examined yeah it's like the James web is kind of doing that you told me about that I said nothing of the sort someone that I know that looks just like you there's a lot of people like me on 6th street you find them every day yeah that was me it's dude they were their own LLMs you know come down

“you're a version 33.7 billion years old yeah well dude I think that this regardless you don't”

have to conceptualize it obviously that what it means for the universe to be infinite but you do have to deal with the fact you're a part of it you love that you're saying this with a Gucci hat on what's wrong with a Gucci? that makes it cool this is before I had a bunch of kids I can't hide I don't buy the shit anymore oh which is a Gucci hat cost this was uh I but you're really gonna make me humiliate this is I will tell you it looks nice let me emphasize

that I don't buy this how it's $35,000 I saw a guy who was selling a crocodile bag on Instagram it was $110,000 for a man purse what kind of crocodile is that? I don't know I don't know a crocodile was nice looking bag but you know how hard can it be to make a crocodile purse are those things really worth that much money? they are if you sell them for that much money that's the thing about purses you know there's

all there's a company in China that makes knockoff purses and it's literally the same company in China that makes real purses for some of these companies but they make their own versions of it and it doesn't have the label but it's exactly the same specifications exactly the same cloth exactly the same look but it doesn't have a label and women don't want to have it no you get that like a fake shit away from me like it's on a fake Ferrari like it's literally a Ferrari right

if there was a company that could 3D print every single part of a Ferrari and put it together meticulously and you could go buy that you would not want it because it's not a real Ferrari are you high you can get that one for $35 yeah it's a $35 for our way you can get you

it's been a million you can get it there's some of them are a million so crazy or you can get a

“$35 one it's exactly the same would you do it yeah of course you should do it but these”

first things they don't like it it's $500 it's not $30,000 it's magic I mean this is magic it doesn't have the right sigil on it doesn't have the right symbol of power on it so it does it lose it's not impued with that power on you women are reluctant to accept lab grown diamonds so they make lab grown diamonds that are real diamonds and apparently women don't like them no they don't want a lab grown diamond they want a blood diamond they want something that was like suffered over somebody's

face was caked and dirt they put the chip it into the side of a mountain yeah and they run into a diamond that's what they want they want that yeah absolutely yeah it is fucking weird exact same thing yeah it is the exact same material it just made an laboratory and they don't want the material they they want the exclusivity as it comes out of the earth yeah I mean I don't want like don't

know if I should eat that yeah I get I get skewed out I get skewed out but it's like even though genetic modification is like a good orange just genetically not going on forever yeah it's but this yeah dude I it's so odd that that we we just have these traditions that we want to stick to they fucking we don't want a lab grown diamond just saying it cubits are conium but that's a different thing cubits are conium's a fake diamond this is a real diamond that's made in a lab but this

is the funny thing about that I mean I don't know because I've never been lucky enough to come

in contact with actual cubits are conium but like it looks like a diamond it looks like a diamond you know what you're looking at right so if you're a diamond jewel you look at it for three seconds you'll know but who cares how many diamond jewel like it's some diamond jewel your looks that you're shiny fucking dumb luck you're all right it looks pretty right it looks pretty it glissons yeah that's not what people want they want that exclusivity i've hundred percent yeah everybody

“that's why you can make that crocodile bag a hundred ten thousand dollars and we're going to”

make ten of them how guys and then Mike who's down the office doing lines in the bathroom at the fucking place where you're selling stocks that guy finds out that Tim got that crocodile bags like that mother fucker and he's walking around with his big old crocodile they're trying to melt this another revenue stream to try to normalize men carrying purses everywhere they're doing really yeah that's what they're doing that's right that's real this guy's doing it he might be the

first firing shot across the bow because he's made a hundred and ten thousand ten thousand dollar crocodile purse because it's a crocodile it's masculine it's that and it's also that you know it's made for a man like he's making it's got a big strap on it you carry it on your shoulder and it you know looks pretty cool dude i got my Bristol blatter's acting up i gotta go piss i'll do okay do you want to wrap it up or should we keep going let's wrap it up i mean do you want

“to keep going i can totally ready to keep going if you want to keep going let's keep going”

let's give him a little bit more i just got a i just got a okay i'll pee too do you know refreshed just in time for the war what is going on did we go have a nuclear warrior not yet please say not yet good great great that's what we're at though yeah we're at it's it's an on the table well there was there was some video of them some explosions at some nuclear weapons facility wrong yeah was that real i don't know i don't know either there's a lot

of those i see these videos and they get retreat retweeted and a lot of people comment and then it says grock is just true there nope this was from twenty twenty one in another country and i know so you just don't you don't know right but you know the crazy thing you know now that we've all been getting this westening global the global economy maybe a lot of you must be priority new that the straight-of-formers is like some kind of femoral artery for oil and like

i just keep thinking like how how's that gonna work out like even if even if like they pull a rabbit out of their hat trump actually spins some amazing deal with a ranch i know we just blew up your old government everything but they work it out somehow are there run in some way

capitulates and but i just don't understand how that part of the world doesn't always lead as long

as long as the oil like what is it what's what percentage of the oil supply goes through there isn't it like two fifths of the world's oil supply goes through there like is that with the numbers

“i don't know two fifths i think i pull that on my ass i don't know it the numbers it's a lot but it's”

like how how is it gonna work to have like any kind of instability around the that for moral the whatever you want to call it the fucking juggler vein for oil on the planet how even if we get some kind of transient peace like isn't it always gonna just blow up again and again and again as long as one group of people can control whether or not oil flows through right that place you know what i mean like i don't know what this how there could be any

solution over there like i don't understand as long as we're like the only solution would be zero point energy it would be also also it's like why do they control the water what's that mines they have this beboats but like who agreed to that like we kind of agreed

that you own your land but we've never agreed you own the ocean i don't think anybody agreed

do i think they'll blow your ass out if you come through it and it's too much of a risk to put up your your your expensive ass ship hauling the jolly's at all hours of oil through there there's a question was what was going on the past before the war like how did they negotiate going through

fuck of war i don't know it was working out there or letting people go through now they're they've

real the you know if there's no million different takes on this thing and one of the recurring

takes is a run has realized that there's something more powerful than nuclear weapons that it all needs to do is control this straight and you can fuck up the whole plan and also you could shoot missiles at desailination plants and then they want like a bounty for all the oil that goes through yeah there's kicking around some number but all this stuff is not really can geoders solidified but they're like some kind like the theoretically they could be making billions

of dollars per month with by controlling that thing i do it i know i self fucked up it's so great it's so fucked up so crazy the whole thing is so crazy and if zero point energy if you wanted to stop that what better way than the kill about your scientists kill a bunch of super smart people that are about to break through some new discovery that's going to blow the entire market yeah apart yeah it's going to be a completely new way of gathering energy yeah yeah exactly

i mean you don't want to believe that's real i it's hard to believe that's real but listen it's too weird it's too weird that they're all missing or they all die it's too weird something's going on it's just how did it's something if it's not that it's not a zero point energy thing or some disruptor of oil thing it's something it's something along those lines the only if you were we're

trying to kill a bunch of people that we're working in a technology that's some sort of a breakthrough

technology the question you'd have to ask is what markets are going to be affected by this right right did these people have a universal thing in mind that they were all working on or was it all connected to um any sort of technology where they all used each other's words plasma

“some of them are like one of them yeah but there was another guy i think it was uh space objects”

yeah that's not that that's the one that doesn't make you feel good these studying like meteor impacts right yeah you knew that we were going to get hit would you kill the guy who found out that we're going to get hit or tell everybody well this seems to this is the scariest scariest shit which is the idea is some group of powerful elite people no for sure this is coming and they want us to they want to keep us working until the last second they don't they don't want to like it but they

know that if they let people if they're like guys there's like the same thing's going to happen to the planet the average is someone who gets like a terminal diagnosis they're priorities are going to change people are going to stop coming to work and there's still shit that needs to get built for your bunker or whatever and also you just don't want people burning stuff down because maybe that will survive whatever's coming so keep them working as long as you can if you let them

know this shit's about to expire then they're they're going to stop working and we just need we let them work until the end they're happier when they work don't let them get freaked out that's this sort of like that seems to be shit the temperature is saying I mean he's not saying let them work he seems like he really legitimately wants this stuff out there but he's been saying things like a people knew what I knew it's set the world on fire paraphrasing not sure he said

“that exactly okay are you skeptical at all of what he's saying and here's the thing one of”

the things that Bobo's are said is that they give you a certain amount of disinformation like and he called it I think he called it a button or a hook so that if you relay that information people would know that it came from you because they only told you one piece of this nonsense well you know I'm saying yeah because that's what the story birch it says it's like he

would it's always an appeal to authority this guy was in the air force this guy was in the navy

he told me this and then as he's walking out the door he says it's real and yeah you have to ask yourself like well that's just one guy telling you that but you also I have to assume there isn't much maybe the world is in a place where there is some kind of political benefit from talking about aliens but I don't see how that really benefits a politician it does 100% I disagree entirely it makes me talk about him I've been talking about him other people have been talking about him

people been you said you know like thank God that he's doing this let's do the ultimate test did you say he's brave or something like that yeah there you go Jamie can you look up and see if

“Tim Birch it has a book coming out I'll have a one you must have listen I don't think he's a liar”

I don't even what I am saying is I don't know what they feed these people I don't know what they tell them I don't know man I don't think they tell you all the truth and I don't think they ever would I don't think they tell you the truth about anything whether it's just going to intro whether it's UFOs or whatever the fuck it is there's going to be a spin to it that benefits somebody if they have

and stories about aliens who's who's going to be benefited by that well people that are doing

secret shit that don't want you knowing about the blame it on aliens there's a lot of technology

“they have to blame on aliens not my Tim I believe in you mr. Birch I believe in him it's not him”

that's the problem it's the people telling him he's a representative of the American people right he gets elected right so it's like why would you tell that guy he's just another guy coming through the deep state you know I'm saying yeah I know man I mean look you're right we I and this is I need this I need I need I need this like I'm so like I get sucked in as does that do you see I do do I suck myself out a lot yeah I think we don't if they just came out and told us everything they

know this conversation would be over and we would go oh okay but until that happens we're just spinning our fucking wheels and every time someone says if you knew what I know right I want to go don't say anything until you can say something we're tired of getting edged out of it yeah you're edging me I want to have to have I want to come yes yes I don't want to be involved in this fucking circle jerk around disclosure right I know it's it's like yeah I've had that meltdown

more than a few times her she's like watch every day after day age of disclosure like any day no any day no nothing fucking changes at all zero change you know you get more of these stories but no real information no fucking pictures no nothing no nothing unique and crazy I mean the applause the bubble things pretty cool the bubble things cool and also like the you know I like like mint mentioning corbell I can't because I don't know what I can say he I feel like he's like

I he's really given me a sense that there are there is a method to this that there is you know real legitimate work that's being done towards this that it isn't it's real they're here they've got them and we take for granted all this stuff we're saying right now but this we're able to say this because this had their work is lit is this Steven Spielberg movie conveniently coming out at this time or is it just a coincidence well this movie's been in the works for years oh I know but also

like if you what they said back in the day was that they make these movies to predictive programming

tell us this no blue about is I guy he was involved in the first one right he was involved in

close encounters which still is a great fucking move great it's so good man you go back and watch that movie like oh my god it's so cool yeah it's so cool you know he said the only thing that would change after he became a parent he wouldn't have had the father leave yeah what dad would do that but you didn't it wasn't a dad back then so you know you're just making a story you don't realize the consequences is doing that you don't even think about it you're just making a story yeah

“it's only been in production for like two years yeah that's not that long I think that's what we just”

said I know we said that's not very long we've been talking about it on this podcast and this studio for

five well everybody is been talking about it's not just everybody I've always been talking about

disclosure since 2017 so from 2017 from that New York Times article I think that changed the whole narrative and then the video so like the video the tiktok the the actual from the fighter jets that's not man yeah the video that the along with the radar data that's not like whatever that was and then favor saying that he saw something under the water that was waiting for that tiktok or that the tiktok launched from or whatever the fuck it was it was merging with it and that

thing went down into the water again he said it was huge like there was ripples like you said this was a some enormous object it was under the water and more than one of these fighter pilots have had similar stories about enormous objects under the water did you see the they did release a list of footage that they've been shown that they want released have you seen that no oh dude

“I'm sorry Jamie it's like a list of it's a I don't know I think it's one of these senators”

who saw this shit in a skiff or whatever saying we want these released but they're the names of what each of these are is on the list and one of them is one of these massive underwater things it did that they have it I was told 46 specific high quality yeah that's a can you can you pull it up because it says the names of them which is ridiculous oh my god I heard this one that moves underwater at 500 knots and it's big as a football field it didn't say

okay this is what he says those with knowledge of the long list of videos which include titles like several UAP and the vicinity of a Columbus Ohio airport and UFOs information over Persian golf said that clips are shocking you're gonna see some weird fucking shit a source who has view the videos told the post who's a source there you go the wildest clip includes radar footage from

UFOs going in and out of the water near a highly classified submarine according to the source some of the clips are clear full color setting them apart from previously released footage nuncho early in creatures bro one video searing UAP incident accelerations released by Jeremy Corbyl

have you seen this one I don't know where I third I've been avoiding them because I'm getting

cockties I don't like it this is not a cockties this is it that was it I was it was the end of the club's paper 14 that's next week oh but is the oh that's next week they're gonna show the clips oh my god what they're actually gonna do it okay well there's suppose it's expected to can you show me what that video is the Jeremy Corbyl real fucking cool

“that's not stood this is this is yet here it is okay go full screen I believe this is filmed from”

a reaper drone sorry Jeremy from fucking this up let's cool bird the bird's going really fast I don't know I don't know I asked him that and I don't it's unknown I don't know it's

this is where it gets really cool it gets cooler than this yeah are there zoom in on it yeah

well where they're having a hard time zoom in on well because it's a video now it just zipped away and like so this is like it seems like they have some sort of attracting system yeah they're trying to walk on to it and it's doing that thing that they do it seems like it's kind of playing with it well it knows it seems to be aware that they're walking on to yeah and then they walk on to it and then it just does this little blip away it's just like see you later so right around here

“you'll see it go bye bye oh yeah look at that then you can see this like we're jellyfish shaped”

do it it's got two parts it's got that weird glob at the top and something at the bottom and then are we sure that's not just a distortion of space time around it that's incredible to me on my foot do you see that things zip away yeah it just took off he described it to me on my podcast that we talked about all this shit it's like look at that just took off yeah bye

why don't dude what do you think that is no idea if you had a guess so I mean I'm always

like maybe maybe some kind of plasma thing right like maybe we're thinking of again of a life force being comes in a metal ship but it's a little alien guy maybe intelligence is made out of plasma yeah or maybe it's like you know Terrence McKinnon would always talk about like you know if you're seeing things in like three dimensional space then your your view is limited but if somebody could see things that from higher dimensions they would seem like they what were magic like they would

seem like they could disappear and reappear other places so maybe that's like maybe that's like you know just the tip of some kind of interdimensional thing poking in the reality then pulling out of reality or who knows you know it's way easily could be functioning on levels of reality that we haven't even quantified it imagine if it really is some sort of ghost murmured device that could find your heart rate from 40 miles away what can that thing do which just gets a scan

of the general psyche of the earth and disappears yeah so I want to see how crazy they are right now okay pretty crazy bye right a weather report of like the emotional states of planet the vibe of the planet the vibe of the planet is completely connected to the consciousness on the planet the way we can detect oxygen they can detect anger yes there's exception chaos yeah it's a chaos planet we are chaos planet 100% dude yeah it is 100% look at our favorite sports

dudes running at each other colliding into each other trying to get a ball across a line that's our number one sport yeah fucking love it fucking love it fighting yeah fighting sure yeah it but it's you know

“seeing MMA like the chaos more than we like anything else well we did did the I think if I was”

one of them one thing I would really have a hard time with is like don't they all realize they're on the same planet right they know that like they they've been observing their own planet they know they're all on the same planet but they act like they're on a bunch of different planets fighting each other because they're stuck on the ground right all the astronauts they when they get up top they're like what what are we doing yeah this is all one thing we're so vulnerable we're

alone so far away from everybody else if there is anybody else yeah yeah they all have that feeling I forget what it's called but there's like a term for it the overview of fact that's right

thinking that's part of the sickness of our psyche is that we haven't had access to things that

“help the sickness of our psyche so what if Nixon in 1970 didn't do that what if he didn't pass”

that sweeping psychedelics yeah what if psychedelics became ubiquitously used all throughout the 80s and 90s the 2000s right what does government look like when everybody can do mushrooms what does government look like when everybody can do acid what does it look like the entire world adopts this figure that what you can do who could do it what you can't do just like we do with alcohol just like we do it mostly you know whatever whatever substance the people in buy been

what does the world look like and maybe like that's part of where we fucked up we we let people get control over other people to the point where they could limit experiences yeah as it especially consciousness expanding experiences we're at the same time they've got stuff like operation artichoke and these new CIA papers that got released that show that we're like literally actively trying to figure out ways to make people more stupid and docile all right they're going

to do it in vaccines they're going to do it oh they're going to do it to the enemy of course but no spray things aerosol yeah I mean they've experiment with a bunch of different things to make people dumber all right well we're at the same time they kept the thing from people that makes them rebel completely against the establishment right there was the big threat of what those psychedelics are doing in the 60s if you go from the 1950s and you look at what life was like

at least in movies and music culture music music is the best example yeah and then you go to Jimmy Hendrix like what happened yeah what happened what what fucking happened well tell what happened drugs yeah a lot of really good drugs right you know it's not all bad this idea that they're all bad that's not so it's like foods all bad because you got fat right you just used it wrong that's you took the wrong food and you used it wrong and we got denied the ability to figure out what's

right and wrong in the 1970s we still accept it yep that's the crazy thing the way you're describing it's like we accept that other humans can tell us what experiences were allowed to have because some of them are deemed unsafe for ourselves and even worse those people's telling you that have no experience in it they don't even usually are confused about what it is you know

“I friend was talking me the other day about war a guy served and he said I don't think you should”

be able to make any decisions left you you've been there I don't think anybody that's never been

to war should be able to make decisions on whether or not we go to war because until you've seen what it actually is you have no fucking idea all right and I think that's the same thing the psychedelic experiences that's not to say to the same obviously war is anybody who's willing to risk their fucking life whether it's so good calls or a bad calls they're doing it for their government that are doing it for their country they think they're doing it for us that's a exceptional person

yeah and to ask that of people is exceptional and ironically the one thing that helps these people when they get back is illegal all right they all have to go to Mexico and take eye-begining Mexican saying and think of it for guys like Rick Perry and Brian Hubbard this is from my podcast of the day and you know that's Dan Patrick guy they want's the band pot that guy also gave

a hundred million dollars to the iBigan initiative insurance they want to help these people like

there's no industry that's trying to stop it right now found the letter that was submitted signed by rep annaluna what is this is disclosure threat 46 different requests oh yeah this is all the names of the of the things and I'll switch to here I found an article or someone's breaking down with some of these are but some of these are like it says the honorable peat had headset multiple spherical UAP in and out of water whoa shoot down UAP over lake here on who was who just said recently that

we shot to the macro rubio so we had shot two things down that we couldn't understand well the

“said was his exact language do you remember I remember seeing that but that happened a while ago but yeah”

oh he said is a while ago well I could be wrong about that but then so I don't know in the comments somebody's like this is from a few years ago but it doesn't matter I mean why are we shooting shot it fucking down but the names of these things but are they saying that this is an alien thing or is it saying it's foreign tech that we don't understand I don't know you know what I'm saying UFOs of E-tree is hot if this document confirms these claims UFOs would no longer be treated as

a matter of observation or scientific curiosity UFOs would be treated as hostile targets and subject to lethal force or the American territory we're gonna go to war with the UFOs because you know what we kicked out rounds ass it's too easy oh yeah it was easy and as well space war yeah got to get them we we need Luke Skywalker manage most of these of out of the 46 requests I think I counted out maybe five of them were not after 2020 whoa yeah this is

interesting wow interesting wow and there's no doesn't say that I don't know if they have to

put like turn these videos over but this guy was also saying in this article here that these are very specifically requested videos because they've been shown these are the ones they've been shown that blue their minds and others things show it to everybody right for high res in color they don't want to be tricked right uh high resolution so this could be an interesting next week man this could be an interesting what a great way to distract you from the fact we're in the middle

of the World War that didn't show you it's just fucking absteen five I suppose to say that 14th this is the end of I'm Bonnie's supposed to testify about the asses oh she's supposed to testify I don't know if she's not in it wait it's Bonnie got canned right she's not a definitely more

“I don't think I'm sure I just heard it on MPR but I could be wrong about that I think they said”

she will not have to testify now that she's no longer government employee would be wrong about that but I read and I don't know if this is true either was that as a citizen she can now plead the fifth right as a government employee she could not plead the fifth we are well we'll no longer

testify we're not there you go we're that's weird that they've that's weird never testify let

it go yeah let her go let it go let it go let it go do you really think that this war is entirely started because of the absteen files I mean what percentage 50 I'm going 48 to 50 I probably more but I mean like I think it's like the reason I'm hesitating is because what are the absteen the absteen files are what's been going on like the absteen files are like it's the it's basically some kind of cultural UAP video it's like this thing you've always wondered about or been afraid

could be true you see no this is actually true they're these super rich dudes who are doing depraved fucking shit happily and you know like God what does it medsker told me and he dude I I'm telling you man what what I love about him is he'll tell you shit and you're like Google that that can't be real and then it's like it's real and so his take sorry medsker I fuck this up is that absteen was kind of like the hand of the king for the Rothschilds

“and that like that that that uh so that's why he had all this power is he was like representing”

like the the the the man you know and so what got what got revealed there might just be a glimpse of how things actually fucking were you know he told me that I was like shut up what he told me that there was some sort of high atmosphere aerosol test that they did in the called it Satan see that's where you're like come on I know would it find out what Satan stands for that uh some tell I believe they did it in the UK but you you you read that you wait you

called Satan okay what uh great this stratosphere aerosol transport and nucleation project released about 400 grams less than a pound of sulfur dioxide into this stratosphere from a balloon launch in southeast England in 2022 that mean they're good it's got to be another acronym right guys we got to say I don't know people are gonna know we don't mean Satan oh yeah so I don't I mean it's right here face that's so crazy called Satan and to get that through a board meeting

what do you guys call it Satan oh like it let's go run with it yeah it gives a lot of press

“that's what we want well you know hail Satan they'll know it's about our aerosol distribution system of”

course well what do you think what do you think about that because I I mean I go back and forth but it sure seems fishy they're right after the all the first he got so mad remember he got really mad he's like why are people still talking about that and then the Epstein files against his will seeming there's a lot of counter pressure get released in the way and the way that is freaked everybody out and then sometime like within a month of that it seems like suddenly he's

like on Air Force one saying he's gonna do his closure and then suddenly we're bombing her on what do you think about that I mean do you think it's it's connected because it's sure as

fuck seems like it but I again like as you were writing an amazing script that was fucking insane

you connected all right that would be the best version of the script if you wanted to make a fucking insane movie where a blackmail operation on an island involving the most powerful and interesting people in the world that somehow was that was a primary factor in the end of civilization

yeah wouldn't do that because you wouldn't do that because you're not a sociopath but you're

“also not bombing schools in another country you're also not doing a host of fucking things that we”

shouldn't be doing all over the world right you're not that person you're a regular person who goes to a regular job who is a regular life and a family and you don't want to believe that people that you align with would behave literally demonically all right yeah and then you just have to fucking deal with it and then you what do you do when you're you're confronted with you

redacted names of powerful people in these fog why do you redact a guy's name are you protecting

these people how come you're not redacting all the guys now come none of them did do a lot because there's a lot of people that got that were in those files that didn't do anything and you didn't redact their names some people you're redacted that's very strange and some people have clearly done fucked up shit here and they're not in jail there's also like tell me what you're talking about when you're talking about pizza and grape soda jerky and you you want

to take Viagra before you get grape soda that's one of the emails I haven't seen that that is so messed up oh yeah grapes yeah take your take your Viagra take your erectile dysfunction

“medication before we take we go get grape soda what again how arrogant that's what's so crazy”

how arrogant with that in an email like to think that you're you're so comfortable with all this and you don't see the writing on the wall in terms of like emails like your emails are available that's crazy I mean look man it's just it's like I guess this is like we have to contend with this reality yeah and nobody wanted to do this is the the same shit happens in families by the way when it when you as it turns out like an uncle a family member was abusing kids oh yeah

and it's the same shit where like some even victims of abuse will defend the person because they want to wreck the family I guess we're looking at that like on a global fucking level but

in this case I guess it's it's it's being used theoretically to manipulate powerful people

into going to war like that's a general like through line here is that it's somehow connected to the massada it's not just going to war but controlling resources overthrowing governments you know pushing out narratives that aren't accurate because they're going to benefit certain companies there's a lot involved it's also relationships you get with these people give you access to these parties and you don't want to fuck it up so you don't want to criticize

these people that are involved you don't want to say anything that's going to get you kicked out and for a lot of these dorks he scientists and stuff it's probably the most exciting experience they've ever had their fucking right and they get to have it like every six months or every three months or before whatever it is nothing go to a conference Jeffrey Jeffrey's really working hard on philanthropy yeah he's donating money to you I got to go meet with him yeah I got to go meet with him

and a bunch of hot Russians yeah and then that's the your favorite time of life the first time in your whole life where super hot girls are just available to you on an island somewhere and you can completely protect it because Bill Clinton's over there right which is crazy which is crazy and so I don't know Bill Clinton went I assume a lot of people went I don't know the reality that's yes he's on the planet we know he's on the plane the plane in the plane and it was called the

Lolita Express is that actually the name of the plane I don't think so I think they just called it the Lolita Express I don't I don't think so no he didn't name it that this couldn't be that of the now it planes you name boats right yeah I'm an idiot but the the point is it's like if you're gonna write a book that's how you'd write it you'd write it where you can completely manipulate the world I think he was I think I remember reading that he was kind of obsessed with that book Lolita

like he had no I should use it something like 30 copies of it or something. Epstein why he ended out of parties look guys it's like it's like the book of Mormon yeah that I just ended out to be evil oh that's the other sick thing like that's a sick thing with like 72 virgins and heaven that's a sick thing with like this idea that you want to get them really young no evidence that it was named that okay I'm

“dumb I think that's what people were called I honestly thought that I'm gonna admit I thought that he”

named his plane that's just what people were calling him because it was fun to say um but yeah again it seems like a simulation because it seems like it's so and it's also unraveling before our eyes

because we have access to it we never had before right like they're starting to investigate all these

fraud NGOs and all these different things that are operating awesome it's not incredible billions of dollars over here it's being lost to what's the name of that kid who's been doing that

fucking with like the Russian mob or something or the Armenia like in the one with the hospices

“probably like he's fucking with like pro theoretically very dangerous people and he does he's like”

the perfect person for the job too like he's just yeah you but don't you worry about that dude like 100% well and you know the amount of money that they're uncovering it's staggering and now the government of California is trying to spin it saying that they were investigating it first and these investigators were initiated by them how long you got to investigate it this YouTube gig goes there and investigates for 10 minutes and you're like what the fuck this is it's been going on

for a long time man it's a long time and this statistics like the amount of NGOs it's bananas they amount of money that goes through them is bananas I was reading this lady it was running a

non-profit who was making a million dollars a month what yeah she made like 48 million dollars no

of this true I was reading this thing find out that's true some lady she was running some sort of non-profit and she gave herself a raise and she eventually got to the point where she was making about a million dollars a month you know where god I wish I do not to derail that but we do know that remember when that lady was like it sounds insane though it doesn't sound real that sounds like something that a bot would create to make me say it here's a here's a real one

the lady was running the homeless program in LA remember when that shit went down with her where like like there was she got canned like there was an investigative they were investigating it cuz what is it she like a company that her husband worked at yeah suddenly that got like a huge grant what's this one Rochester woman been sentenced to six months in the feeding our future

fraud scheme what is this one is it different one I've typed in someone getting a million dollars a

month and something is this her I don't know here in Rochester claimed they were serving 2000 to 3,000 meals a day to kids but prosecutors say the group stole 4.3 million from the federal government

“there in James responsible this is a different one this one wasn't it wasn't fraud she was just that's how”

much she got paid that's how much she charged for making us meal well you can get paid a lot of money to work on the homeless that's one of the things that my friend Koli on the war showed us that these people that are working on homeless in Los Angeles are being quarter million dollars year 400,000 here yeah it's it's the mode we talk about fucking satanic it's like your your your theoretically supposed to be helping people who were like going through the worst possible

thing you can go through and you're just putting that money in your fucking pocket yeah I think this is a different lady I think there's a bunch of them I think there's quite a few remember when they were going to get them tents in LA and it was like the amount of money per tent was like this insane amount of money it's amazing it's kind of amazing it is amazing they've been doing it for years tell me if this is charity boss blue eleven million meant for needy kids looking

pretty fraught is not a new thing not perfect yeah it is I think so I'm Jamie I'll run that through proplexity and let's find out if this is true because this is something that's someone sent me on twitter that is just bananas and if it's true it's fucking completely insane I don't know

“it's true that's why I need to run by but it's the amount of money that goes through NGOs”

in New York and in California alone it's you you you read it and you go that can't be real this can't be real I guess it's it's so insane and again you don't know it's real until even if you run it through an AI I get you you might get a better idea but like how do they know how do they know exactly where the money's going there's so much money they're talking about specific numbers for New York and California nonprofits are broadly accurate but the leap from one

trillion in annual nonprofit revenue to thirty nine trillion in fraud is not supported by any critical

credible data and is not true so California nonprofits about two hundred and thirteen to two hundred fourteen thousand organizations reporting roughly five hundred and ninety three to six hundred billion in annual revenue wow New York nonprofits hundred and thirty two thousand organizations reporting roughly four hundred and forty six billion in annual revenue combined New York and California non-profit revenue is on the order of one trillion per year mainly from hospitals universities and large

service providers so the post you're quoting is roughly right on the scale revenue but that's not the thing that's fraud right so it's is that one trillion dollars all the NGOs all counted for it all goes to the right things that's where things get squirrely because it's like how much of the waste says a recent critique using IRS sampling suggests that perhaps around twenty percent of non-profits

twenty billion of potential waste fraud or abuse and California's non-profit sector even that is presented

as a rough upper bound estimate not a measured fact so there's some potential waste fraud and abuse that may be as high as a hundred and twenty billion a year sector wise US non-profits taking about three point seven trillion in revenue annually what's most of that concentrated in large hospitals and universities which are heavily audited and regulated so there's some fraud but they're saying that if you look at all the money they're they're trying to pretend that the government doesn't

cost any money to run right so that all these different non-profits and organizations and hospitals don't they definitely got some money to run universities across money to run yeah how much is fraud

“that's the question it's not zero well we get and also I think like when it comes to fraud”

there's like fraud fraud like what surely is uncovered and then there's almost like a gray area that starts appearing where it's like well we need we need these people working at this company and we need to pay them this much but they're not doing anything right you know it's it's you know what I mean like are there you could easily not have that many people of like taking the money themselves so you know there's a lot of gray area there yeah well it's it's one of those weird

things it's like is it just propping up more government you know because there's a lot of that if you have all these people working for you and you're doing something and you don't nothing ever gets accomplished but you're still making a ton of money like the California homeless thing well they spent 24 billion dollars they can't account for it that's not really fraud because you have people working they're just not doing anything and not getting anything done and you're not firing

“them they're not accomplishing the mission at all in fact they're doing a terrible job there's”

more homeless than ever what's that it's the thing on the soprano is where they go and sit at a construction site to say they have a job you know yeah it's the guy who had one of those really have it center no yeah yeah yeah yeah no show job but he's a mob guy so it's a no show job what does that mean you don't have to show up for work you just get a paid you just get a check and there's that they give a certain amount of those so back this is back in the day of course

when things were corrupt but back in the day when like you know unions controlled certain areas the mob controlled certain areas there was a certain amount of no show jobs you'd give people and what this helped with the mob was you have a credible source of interest right and so these people mostly live modestly small houses like you know Brooklyn and these places where they would all like gather together and buy houses on the same block small houses yeah they then they've got

their money from a real legit check from a construction company right or whatever whatever the fuck it was but everybody knew right everybody knew what they were doing and take how much how easy now that people are doing like remote work the no show job oh yeah so like you could theoretically you could have this non-profit where you just wanted to like distribute this government money to your friends and you don't even have to have an office building because they're all working

remotely this is the top non-profit organizations job like to point you at number three oh but tell memorial incident where they tell us this is an organization that Jamie has been

obsessed with it's in Ohio for like four years what is it we always say all roads lead to Ohio

they're involved in everything yeah what the fuck is the bit tell memorial exactly you don't even know

“that's how secretly it's sudden don't get trustly Europe fucking conspiracy theorist from the core”

from the old days you don't know about but I don't know about but down you need to get lectured by Jamie he has a whiteboard he'll pull out the whiteboard make connections I'll just let leave you with this is that when the UFO from Roswell was taken to ripat you know they studied it yeah they studied that like the net null I think is what it came out of it that was that but tell whoa top metal largest in the world of the time we're there but tell maybe still are

out of all the things that happened I hope the UFOs get here first me too I hope to go settle the fuck down yeah I'm praying for it man that's the best case scenario worst case scenario is meteor reset just people living in caves for hundreds of years like those weird caves they find like turkey and shit like why these guys dig these things underground why is there a city underground that can hold like 20 thousand people the same reason the quad bots are hiding in

code it's like you know what I mean it's them residual AI trying to hide in the server after the server gets wiped that's the fucking meteor but tell reset boom just reset press reset white

the server let's wrap this up and happy now don't get in a love you I love you it's always great

to have you dude thank you for having me on the show oh so much fun can I plug my show please do and you're gonna be at a club this weekend Rosemon Illinois come on out Zayney's a great club

and there's a national fucking rules I love Nashville Zayney's that is like the old school

“headshots on the wall too like Richard Jenny from back there yeah that's me look at that”

don't control I gotta start shaving my head again yeah you look hot there I like it thank you

I love your brother I love you t-shirt everybody we're gonna be okay I hope you