#2511 - Terry Bradshaw

[INAUDIBLE] The Joe Rogan experience. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [INAUDIBLE]

Rainbow trout. Oh yeah. Kill them. I've been up there for four years. Can you fly fish?

Yeah. Oh yeah. But you're not fly fish. You come back and July for fly fishing.

“This is fly fishing, but you've got a fly bobber.”

It's a fly. Mm-hmm. Then you get that tiny, tiny bug. I mean, you can't even see it. That's what you catch them all.

So you've a lot using a fly rod. Yeah. Be of a bobber and a little tiny. The bobber.

The bobber is a, basically, a big moth or something.

Okay. Put it up. Right. Bobber, cork one. Yeah.

Yeah. So it's just a different kind of fly fish. What you're doing, because you're not, you're in a boat. You know, fast at water's moving. Right.

And you just go down through there and they move it to the Jets and jetties and stuff. So you find like the pools where they're waiting in. Yeah, you go, you just find that goes boom. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Oh. Brown trout. Yeah. It was a good time.

Yeah, trout fishing is very fun. Yeah. It is. Fly fishing is a completely different thing.

“It's very, it's very, it's very skillful.”

I like fly fishing too. We did that last year in July. And then have near the, I mean, we didn't catch hardly anything. Be honest with you. Yeah.

I mean, maybe five or six a day.

That's a lot for fly fishing. We caught almost 110 hours. Really? Yeah. A hundred trout?

That's crazy. Don't say where you were. People are all going to swarm that place. No, no, no. I didn't bring my fun.

I'd show you. Yeah, it was, it was crazy. Wow. Yeah, I tell you something funny. I carry, I carry.

Oh, I would. Yeah, we're filming. I figured we were. I carry a baby Jesus with me. Me too.

What happened? You carry a baby Jesus. Maybe Jesus. Like from the manger? Yes, Jesus.

Right. Jesus. We call it baby Jesus. Okay. Oh, so this is just a piece of Jesus.

Right. Right. So we're not catching anything. So I'm reaching the pocket. I don't know why I look at them.

And I don't know what I was doing. And I had this baby Jesus. And I said, oh. My son and I was in the back. I said, I got baby Jesus with me.

And I said him on the egg on the box. Facing me. You ready Joe? One, two, three, four, five. Five, six.

Six giant rainbow into a row. Some of us are not allowed to go back. He's going. Turn baby Jesus towards him. Turn around.

I took baby Jesus toward him. One, two, three, four, five. Six. I went down to this. We call 12, 12 rainbow anywhere from 15 to 20 inches.

Yeah, that's big. That's good rainbow. So the, so the, the, the guide. I mean, he's, you got a little trip down. He, he said, he said, he said, he said, hey man.

You, you kind of, you kind of mess with me. That's kind of, that's kind of got me a little screwed up. I started laughing. I said, man, you get the power of Jesus in here. So we can't have it all day before I left.

I gave it to him. So he said, I'm going to use this every day. So that's it. It was kind of fun.

“I don't think that's something you should use every day.”

I think that that should be like for special trips. You don't want to ask Jesus every day to help you catch fish. I don't go fishing every day. But yeah, you're right. You know what I'm saying?

I didn't, I didn't need, I wouldn't normally need help. But trout fishing, you know, need him. I'm fast fishing and yeah, I'm, I'm pretty good on my own. But if things get desperate. I'm not, I mean, I don't want to push it.

No, I'm saying. I don't want to push it. Oh, by the way, Jeff died to me. I don't know. Oh, you know, Jeff?

Yeah.

I did two years of, um, better late than never with him.

Oh, I love Jeff. Yeah. Good dude. Yeah. Solidude.

Man's man. What's with all the whiskey? Um, did you bring that? Yeah. I was wondering.

You don't drink. Black. Yeah. I quit and then I came back. Yeah.

I quit for eight months. Not really. I didn't have a problem. Just health reasons. I decided it wasn't a good thing.

Yeah. Yes, Mark. Did you have your own Terry Bradshaw whiskey? Yeah, we've had it now. Come on, son.

We've got to have a glass of that. Seven years. Do you drink? Yes. I drink.

I drink this. Um, but this is our 12 year. That just went all the golden awards and spirits.

Yeah. We're on all of them. So age 12 years. 12 years. 13 now.

“I was talking with Buffalo Trace about that.”

And they're like, yeah. That's what you drink.

Well, what you drink this, you'll stop drinking that.

Unless they're a sponsor. They're a sponsor. Okay. There you go. And they're nice guys.

Okay. And I respect them. And that country, that company's been around long with country. Long. Long with an America.

Long. Yeah. They started in 1773. I mean, when you go back to said to whiskey. Yeah.

Well, they claimed that Elijah Craig was the father of Bergen whiskey. And then they do research. And then they don't have it back that far where they can. Can actually sink because the lives of Craig was preacher. Oh, really?

Yeah. So that preacher who made whiskey. Yeah. Wow. So anyway, that's, that's a war darning.

Well, this is, this is our original. This is our two year. This is the original brand right there. We still have that. What is the original?

It's two year age. Two. Two. Them with our yeast.

“We were able to make it taste like four to six.”

Okay. So now.

And then we don't do that anymore.

And then this is the, this is the good stuff right there. What's that stuff here? Six year. Yeah. So you got 12, 2 and 6.

Yeah. Actually 12, 4. Can you really tell the difference? Yeah. Absolutely.

Oh, I'm going to tell you right now. This is 145 proof. Whoa. Okay. That's a lot.

This, this is 108, 103.8. This is amazing. This is, this is a, why is the older stuff have more. Well, I'll call it. Because of the process.

Well, of aging. Yeah. Because it's also, this is a burden that, it's a single bearer burden. And when we brought it out, you leave it in there. And this is what it turned out to.

And now we could dilute it by simply putting water in it. And dilute it down. This is 103.8. And then it's 51.9 proof. Or proof.

Alcohol. This. This. 149. Busted out.

Carry. Let's go. If we bust it.

How long we plan to talk today?

About for a couple hours. Yeah. We may not be able to make a couple hours. We'll give it our best. Okay.

We'll do it our best. We'll give it our best. Who can open this? I don't have a knife here. Oh.

Yeah. So we started this. No, we didn't. No, we didn't. I can't.

A lot of, like, you know what? I noticed coming over here today. A lot of tattoos in here. Yes. Yeah.

A lot of tattoos. You mean the building? Jamie tattoo free. Yeah. A lot of tattoos.

He's been thinking about getting my face tattooed on his back. Are you still doing that? Is that like a bull's eye? Stand up. We made a deal.

I'll do his face. He'll do mine. He'll do mine. Anyway. And I'll have like young jabies.

Yeah. I know. The thing about, the thing about bourbon. I don't know how to explain it. I don't know why I fell in love with bourbon.

I find it to be.

“First of all, it's the only thing that's.”

It's only. It's in America. Bourbon is only bourbon if it's in America. Right. And I think it's only bourbon if it's.

If it's made in Kentucky. A lot of Kentucky people tell you. Yeah. That's the same way. I mean, you ready?

Yes, sir. Okay. Let's go. Time to party. I'm just going to.

This might. This might be the best show you ever have. All right. I'm excited. Yeah.

You will be after you drink that. Let it sit. Let it sit. It smells good. Let it sit.

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You got COVID. What did you get sick? No. Here's the thing.

“The question that came to mind later was,”

the guy that drove me over here. The guy that's going to take me to the air. How am I getting home? Do I stay here in the hotel for 10, 12 days? That was my dilemma.

What do I do? I did, eventually. I did. Yeah. I did about four days.

And I got real sick. Yeah. Did you do anything during those four days? Were you taking vitamins? Nothing?

No. Why not? I don't take vitamins. What? I don't really take vitamins.

How come? I'm your married to a doctor.

I never have taken vitamins.

I don't know really. Even when you're playing? No, not take B12 shot. Okay. Well, I gave it to myself.

You give it to yourself. Yeah. Intermuscular? Yeah. Okay.

That's good for energy. Yeah. But there's... Hot, tired. But yeah.

Sure. Well, other vitamins too, though. I don't have a problem with MRI machines, PET scans. Surgery. No.

No. I've got a bad heel fright now. I'm not 10, you Joe. It's killing me. Yeah.

And I got it injected. Within stem cells? Within genitals? No, no. I don't do stem cells.

Why not? I don't bleed in stem cells. You don't believe in them? No. Maybe Jesus?

Absolutely. I'm just... No, this... This I do believe in. Go ahead and laugh.

That Joe, you don't want to laugh when I got baby Jesus' point. You better cut that mess or bro. You better shut that mess. You better go fishing. I'm going to beg you to point that baby Jesus' point.

No, no, no, no. I won't give you one. I've got hundreds of these. If we go fishing, I don't really want to point my last. You just believe...

“Yeah, I believe that little baby Jesus works.”

Oh, my question. But I don't believe in stem cells. I had too many people... Bass just on... People that went did stem cells.

Uh-huh. And what happened? They went back and did it again.

Did it again. Right. Then what happened? What happened?

They went back and did it again.

Okay. Then what happened? They went back and did it again. Got it. Okay.

Why did they keep going back? Because they didn't work. Okay, didn't work at all. Same symptoms came in. No, no, no.

It worked for a little bit. Right. People dealing with... What's wrong with them? Uh-huh.

They're going back and back and back. Mostly knees right ankles. Okay.

“So you're probably talking about arthritis.”

Yeah. Probably talking about degenerative knee conditions, ankle conditions. So the amount of damage that you're trying to repair with stem cells, you're going to get a little bit of benefit and some points out of that far gone. But stem cells work.

I don't... Yeah. Good. I'm glad. I'm glad they work.

You do stem cells? 100%. Oh. What hurts? Well, I had a rotator cuff tear that completely went away.

No, that's at least a year. That's what you say. At least a year. I had a full length rotator cuff tear. I got stem cell shot into it.

A full tear. Full tear. My doctor told me I 100% was going to knee surgery. I went to an orthopedic surgeon that the UFC recommended. They sent me to their gas.

Jo, excuse me. Please go. But if I finish this, I'm probably going to believe you. You don't have to believe me. I'm telling the truth.

So I went to this doctor. He said you have a full length rotator cuff tear. Yeah. You're going to need surgery. You could rehab it if you want.

You could try. Maybe make it a little bit better. But ultimately, you're just putting off the surgery. So I get this stem cell treatment. Yeah.

And then six months later, he gives me an MRI. And he says the rotator tough tear is completely gone.

He goes, I've never seen anything like this in my life.

He goes, it's gone. It literally, the tear does make baby Jesus in your pocket. No, I had sight. Yeah. All right.

Hey. It works. You'd be silly to ignore breakthrough science like this, because there's a reason why so many people are doing it. Yeah.

The reason why so many people are doing it is, look, it's not a miracle. It's not going to fix things around fixable. No, like bone on bone arthritis. It's not going to fix it. That's what I'm doing.

But it might reduce some of the inflammation. It gives you at least temporary relief, which is why those people keep going back again and again. When I got cancer, I had to do certain treatments, and I have rheumatoid arthritis.

Now, if I were still among rheumatoid arthritis medicine, which I haven't been for three years now, I probably wouldn't be having the pain that I'm having, but you can't take the rheumatoid arthritis after you have radiation. And so, did you want to risk that?

Plus I kept getting all these cancer things. So you had two types of cancer, right? I had bladder and Merkel cell, which is 2% of the America has 2% has Merkel cell. Both of them, the bladder cancer was, I went to a doctor in Dallas.

He checked me and he says, well, you've got a little blood in your urine, but that's fine. That's normal or something like that.

And I kept complaining, as when I finally had to my wife,

I said, boy, something's not right. And so, she researched and found the best doctor was at Yale University, Yale. I went up to New Haven Connecticut for testing. Went in, exploratory.

Byopsie came out and said, you got a bladder cancer. Wow. It's a funny story about that in the funny story. That's funny about cancer.

“But the last time I got divorced, she ever been divorced?”

No, okay, good, good for you. So the last time I got divorced. My wife calls me in, she says, I need for you to sit down. I don't love you anymore, I want her to divorce. Oh, all right, into that story.

Right. Sit my wife. The wife's sitting outside. After they get tickets for reports, I didn't know she got the report. She says, honey, I need for you to sit down.

I ain't sitting down. I don't want another divorce. That's the first time I slept into my end. The last time I heard a woman tell me, sit down. I need for you to sit down.

My ass is out of there. Five o'clock that afternoon. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Boy.

Hey. That's a lot. Yeah, that was it. I wouldn't sit down. She said, she said you got bladder cancer.

That's all right. All right. That's the worst. I did with bladder cancer. I can't do with another divorce.

“You want to hear crazy story about stem cells and bladder?”

No, I mean, ask you something. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something about stem cells. They made a bladder for this woman out of stem cells. She had some sort of a bladder issue.

I don't remember if his cancer or what it was, but she had ever a bladder removed. They made a completely new bladder for her out of stem cells with her own skin tissue. Put it back in her body. And now that's her bladder.

Did that make the news? Yeah. Oh, sure.

“There's article written about a peer reviewed patient in here.”

No, she has not been here. Nor has the doctor that did it. But I'm aware of the story. It's like putting in a bowl and you grow it in a bowl. I don't know how they did it.

Because I'm a moron. But somewhere. I'm not very smart. When it comes stuff like that. Someone very smart figured out how to make a bladder for this one.

But so you and you believe it or who am I to? What do you believe it? She's got a bladder. No, I don't know. If you believe what?

Fine. I mean, fine. Listen. If you ever get injured, holler at me. I'll bring it away to well.

Good. Some stem cells. And then we'll have another conversation afterwards. She'll like, wow. It fixed it.

That we're not arguing here. No, we're not arguing. But I'm saying it. But I just. There's real reasons why these people travel.

The Tijuana and go to the different places. And they die until now. What was a great actor that went to to Mexico to have all the stem cells done. And who did that? He was the ghost.

What was this name? The actor. Also went to Mexico. Two actors went down there for stem cells.

When still cells first came out, you know?

They wouldn't do it in America. Yes. So they were going to Germany? Uh-huh. And they were going to Mexico.

But Germany was a lot for Regenicine. Yeah, they were going for them. Because I know different percentage. Regenicine was going to Germany. Well, I mean Kobe Bryant went to Germany, Peyton Manning went to Germany.

They went to Germany for Regenicine. Yeah. Which is like a very, that's not stem cells as much. That's something. It's a very advanced form of platelet rich plasma like PRP.

It's like PRP. But it's a way more effective. I had that done too. I had that cure to bulging disc for me. One of the things they're doing now and I don't know what it is.

I don't know how I got on this, by the way. But stem cells. Yeah. But cancer is now. What is it called?

Will you go in? They spend your blood and they didn't put it back in you. What is that called? You know what? PRP.

That's how we're talking about. Rich plasma? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I had to think luck. Well, this is a bunch of different. Plasma for recess is the other thing they take the plasma out. I don't know why. And I'm not sitting here.

I'm not sitting here saying, hey Joe, you're crazy. All right. You did it.

You wouldn't be the first.

No. You did it. You believe in it. It happened for you. You know.

All right. I don't mind taking a shot. I'll take a shot out of day long. Okay.

“You don't repeat the thing in your body with a needle?”

Anything? Not anything. I mean, I'm pretty careful about it. Yeah. I would hope so.

Yeah. I don't just try it out. No. What happens when I put this in my body with a needle? Yeah.

I understand. Look. I got a sister in law. This one that's totally this way. And I'm totally that way.

You're one way. And I'm that's good. That's what makes. What does a sister in law do? What do you mean?

What does that mean? She liberal. No. Absolutely not. Very much.

She's conservative. Yeah. Okay. So how was she different than you? Well, she.

So if it works and I think it's going to work. I'm not afraid to try it. Right. I was. I was.

When I got diagnosed with, with rheumatoid arthritis. And I'm laying in a hospital and they take me and they isolate me. Mm-hmm. I isolate me. Because they didn't know it was wrong with me.

Test. Test. Test. Boah. I'm in hurry.

Then to go in and do. Um. Um. I want to say stem cells.

I want to say it because that's the first thing because of mine.

Um. Went into my knee. And. I sat in the hospital for two more days and felt fine. And then they were releasing me and I went home.

And I was home one day. And in middle of the night, I'm screaming and hollering and pain.

“My wife she could stop and then I think I'd at that time I owned a plane.”

So I could get on the plane and get back to Florida. And got down there and that's when they found out I had rheumatoid arthritis. And they had to bring a specialist in to find out what the hell was going on with. So is it only the knees? Yeah.

Only the knee. Okay. Only the knee. That's where the knee. I never.

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It's the only time baseball's fun. Are they what? It was, yeah. The viewers were tuning in. A hundred percent?

Yeah. The Mark McWire Sammy Solson days, Barry Bonds. Yeah. Barry went from 185 to 105. Yeah.

I met Barry when he was normal-sized. Yeah. When it was like a normal athlete, then he just got giant.

But also, he was a great baseball player first.

First. And then you give them all those steroids. And now he's got all this muscle. And he's just cracking them out of the park. Those are the good old days.

They should have looked away. They should have turned their head away. I'll tell you about that. I don't see nothing. They should have, everybody should have shut the fuck up and let these guys take steroids.

Let's go. Do you like home runs or not? Let's go.

That's me. What's back in a minute.

“The problem is, it's the great American pastime.”

And you don't want to associate the great American pastime with what people think is cheating.

But that's, yeah. You look. There's guys that didn't need to do it to be in the Hall of Fame. And they're getting barred from the Hall of Fame. That's true.

Barry's one. Barry was a great player without it. Fantastic player. Yeah. Mark, Mark, Mark.

That's what Sammy Sosa. Yeah. Didn't need it. Maybe they didn't think they'd be noticed. Maybe they didn't think they'd get caught.

Maybe this guy's got giant. I don't know how they didn't think the people would notice. They got enormous. Yeah. For sure.

But, you know, hey, it is what it is. I mean, it was a fun time though. Yeah. Fun time.

You know, I remember people asked me said, you didn't know your guys were on steroids.

And I didn't know what steroids was. I remember one time I was at the Hall of Fame. Someone's, that was the question that came to me about steroids. I didn't know any better asked about hell. Everybody takes steroids.

I took steroids for this, you know. But not antibiotics still. Right. To court his own. Yeah.

I didn't correlate the differences. The one guy coming up to me. You idiot, it's, there's two types. At least we know of. And I didn't know.

Yeah. That's actually far. I'm, you know what? You imitate the truth. Tell me the truth.

I'm glad I'm glad that I was blindfolded. I'm glad my brain didn't function like this.

“I'm glad I didn't look at anybody and go, what's the own?”

I don't look. I just hell. I just, they're lifting weights, brother. They just lifting weights. God bless them.

You know? Well, that's a good attitude to have. Yeah. And they say, well, your team was on steroids. Well, if that's the case, it was a nail legal.

Everybody was doing it. Right. Not only that, but let's be realistic. Most teams were on steroids because you're professionals. And you want to do your best.

And if you got a bunch of guys and the way they could do their best is be as strong as they possibly can be. They're going to take steroids. Especially when it's legal. Yeah. It's, especially when you want to say it's a, it was a product of the times.

But it, in essence, it was. Well, every time the times change when there's something effective that comes along like steroids, you're going to have a bunch of people that want an edge. And, you know, there was a time where people thought of creatine like steroids. Yeah. Yeah.

Creatine is a very beneficial supplement that everybody should take. It's great for your brain. It's great for mitochondrial function. It's great for your brain. Our blueberries are good for your brain.

Blueberries are good for your brain. Franco Harris, she's a tummy. Brad, are you in a lot of blueberries? I said, Franco, you're not going to believe this, but I buy blueberries all the time because of you. He has a good for your brain, good for your brain. They are.

And I love blueberries. Yeah. A lot of antioxidants in them too. Yeah. Yeah.

Blueberries are just great period. Yeah. But, you know, when you're doing things for your body, when you're a professional athlete, it's, of course, there's going to be a bunch of people that are on steroids.

“Like, if you want to get bigger, that's the way to do it.”

Like, what are we doing here? We like it. Think they do it today. Do you think they don't do it today? That's a real mess.

I asked you. They definitely do something. They do whatever the fuck they can get away with. They have big these kids. Yeah.

Well, there's also genetics. Like, people change. Well, kids, kids in odd days are eating better train better. Eating better train better. They're more nutritious.

Exactly. They're huge. They're huge. You know, I think my, I think my offensive line in the 70s, average about maybe 260. Wow.

Just 600 pounds difference in today, right? Yeah. Now you're loving these coaches. My offensive line this year going to be 65372. There you go.

Whoa. Now can they move? And then they'll say something like, but got quit feet. Okay. Got quit feet.

I love quit feet. It's crazy when you see some of these guys doing the 40. You've, you've, you've been on a sideline. I'll watch videos. Haven't been.

Yeah. Go to the sideline. Go to 7 feet tall. 440 pounds. Got quit feet.

Crazy. 7 foot. Look at the 80. Oh, my God. Look at that.

As an eighth grade. Go back to that picture. As an eighth grader. He was six foot 10, 450 pounds. It's fucking junior high school.

Junior high school. Yeah. You know, I, Desmond Weston. Look at the a Desmond Watson. Look at the 464 pounds. He has a player. Wow. Oh, he's in the NFL. Yeah NFL history. 464 pounds. That's so big.

But here's what I'll say about my guys. My guys could put on their pants and that nothing rolled over. Oh, say what he said. Yeah, they were flatbelly.

They were in shape because we ran a lot. We ran our game is all about motion traps and specials and leads and stuff like that.

For the pounds. I mean, so if I work coach today, just my thinking what I want, I want to athletic guy. I don't want a big guy. I want to I don't want a guy that you go. All right. We're going to do gassers, Billy John Williams William Earl. Uh, y'all go ahead and go on and get shower. No, 38 whatever they can. Again run gassers. Right. I can run gassers. Right. You don't know. Run the mile. We had to run that stealer mile every year. We've got to training camp. Well, if you're 325 35 nine. I don't want to pitch an hole. Everybody because there are some guys I've seen in the NFL that I've walked by before the game started.

And I turned to how he's always that we're always together and we're always holding.

Do you know, isn't there a value of function of a big giant dude that maybe can't run gassers, but can stop a play dead in its tracks because you run into a brick wall.

“Right. Maybe he's only got to go five yards. That's what I'm saying.”

Yeah, but that wasn't how I was brought up. Right. That wasn't what I was taught, but obviously you're a fan of the game still used to watch the game. Yeah. How much has the game changed from when like 1970 or first year? You're talking about it. But like big. But would you imagine that the guys from 1970 would fit right into today's game? Oh, no. No. No. No. No. The size. Joe Green made a hall of fame at 275, didn't the tackle. 275. Jack Limer, 2018 in middle linebacker Hall of Famer.

Jack Limer, big was Jim Browner's prime. Jim Brown. I never played against Jim Brown.

“Right. It was before your time, but a big was Jim Brown. Probably to it.”

To 20, maybe to 15. Not crazy. Yeah. So I always always say size wise. Now, I will say this. The wider sears, the quarterbacks and runningbacks, completed day, and probably the tight ends. But when you get my centerway 252. And I always say since I'm in the cattle business, I'll take a little young bull. I'll take my English bull over your charlale bull any time. Your charlale bulls are going to be our cement. I was going to be a huge up off the ground. But my English bulls are going to get under him and be able to control him with with with with technique.

And wait a minute. You got bulls fighting each other. I understand. No, Joe, you're not listening.

You're not trying to listen. You're okay. You get some rest last night. Just get it. Okay. Good. Got a big bull. He's already got the leverage because he's under the big bull. Got it. The big bull's got to get down to get leverage on the leverage. He's got all the mass in the weight outnumbered. Sort of like Mike Tyson in his prime. Right. The bad sucker. Bad as he gets bad. Bad as man ever. He came in a restaurant. I was in and he saw him and he came over and he pulled up a chair. There was an owl. And I'm sitting over here next to the wall. And then there's dinner chairs here. He went over. He pulled up a chair.

And we talked about Johnny and minus for an hour. Wow. Mike Tyson. That's pretty cool. Well, he's a giant fan of all kinds of athletes. You know, I mean, the guy studies studies warriors and athletes and former generals. Really? Oh, he knows so much about Jengus Khan. Me and we had this long conversation. He knew his original name. Yeah, I did. I knew a lot about it. Well, not a lot. I would say, but I got pretty obsessed. There's a guy named Dan Carlin. He's got a fantastic series called Hardcore History.

Yeah. It's a podcast. And he had the series on Gengus Khan called the Wrath of the Khan. And that that caught me obsessed. That opened up the door. And then I started reading books on Gengus Khan and watching documentaries and I got obsessed. Yeah, I'm huge documentary guy. But he knew so much about Gengus Khan. He knew his original name, which was Tamogen. He knew his whole story about how he was born with a blood clot in his hand. It did. Mike knew everything about it. Yeah. Mike studies like conquerors, you know. He's like really know that. Yeah. He's a very smart guy.

That people would know that. Mike is a very interesting guy. He's not, he's not what people think of. He's think of Mike Tyson being this like mindless destroyer. And he's very intelligent. And you ever, you ever, you ever think about why do, why do athletes have an image, my image was, I was the dumb guy.

“You ever have ever asked yourself a question, why, why is your opinion about Mike Tyson so different now since you interviewed him?”

But prior to that, that wasn't out in the press, was it? No, I mean, maybe later in his career, but you'd have to watch a guy fight like that and he fought so brutally.

Like, it's not just that he's just running at people and punching them. He's bobbing and weaving. He's being incredibly elusive. He's shifting his weight to the left and shifting his weight to raise cutting angles like a middleweight.

He's doing things to these guys that they've never seen a heavyweight do before. And he also was a giant student of boxing.

So his manager was a guy named Jim Jacobs. Yeah, he was a guy who was a guy who was five eleven in his arm. There's the breath, there's the bonus. He's like 20 inch neck. I mean, he was a tank. And he, his, his manager was this guy, Jim Jacobs. Jim Jacobs was a boxing historian. And he had all of these old film reels of everyone from Jack Johnson to Stanley catch-old to Jack Dempsey. Look, all the old time fighters and Mike would watch those on a, all day long.

So he would train and then watch these guys all day long. So he had an access to the film footage that most fighters, all you could see is the guys in the gym and the guys that you saw fight life back in those days in the eights. Yeah, there was no, there was no VHS tapes, you know, there was a, there was no like real tapes of boxing and good watch back then. So when Mike, this one, Mike was like 13. So Mike was 13 years old and he's watching film of the greatest sugary Robinson, the greatest boxers of all time.

Really pep Rocky Marciana is watching all these guys in absorbing their styles and figuring out like it takes intelligence to do that.

Like it's not a, that's not what a dumb guy would do. A dumb guy wouldn't see, oh, when he does this, it's because of that.

So he can avoid the counter and duck underneath and hit him in an angle where he can't hit him beautiful. I'm going to incorporate that into my training and figure out how to, how to find those patterns in stories. But because you hear a counter punch, do you know how hard it is? And I'm not a boxer, but when someone's, you watch their training and then there's a, when does this counter punch? Do you know how fast that you, you're not fast that brain has to work for you to counter punch?

“Oh, you have to be lightning fast and you have to have trained it a thousand times.”

You want to be hit all day long and that face and the stomach and stuff way to make a living, but so it's football. And especially back when you guys were playing when they would just shoot it with this pressure, but not boxing. Holy yeah, I met. I met Mohamed Ali one time. I was six, three and a half. I'm six, one and a half now. And I was looking up to him and I'm sure he wasn't any taller, but I was looking up to him because I was so impressed.

And you know, we had, we had a, we had a great first time meeting. He was a fan of mine. I didn't know it.

And it was like, oh, I made me great. And I went to a couple of bankwits that he was at. And he had sent notes down to me to come down and say hello to him. Wait, you know, I'm gonna bother him. And I'd go, I'd go to him. Hey, hey, champ, how are you doing? It's Terry Bradshaw. Yeah, yeah, hey, have you heard this one? He tell me a joke. A joke. That's the last thing I expected from Mohamed Ali.

Yeah, but I loved Mohamed Ali. That was incredibly incredibly intelligent guy. And also the first guy to figure out how to get attention by talking. And we hated him first time. I didn't like him. Did you like him? I loved him, but I didn't like him.

I didn't like him. I didn't like him. I grew up in an era of respect. You respect your opponent. You don't see anything bad about him. You give him all the plate praise when it's all said, you respect your. You don't show, show boat. You don't do anything. You don't run into the end zone.

You don't do this. You respect your opponent. And that's the way that I was raised.

“And that's how, and that, and actually the way I was coached.”

And I had a hard time, a hard time when Billy White Shoes Johnson of Houston would get in the end zone. He started doing that dance and everything. I don't like it at all. And Billy White Shoes is a good dude, you know? And, but I didn't like it. I just don't like, I don't like any athlete.

Drawing attention to himself. If you're playing tennis or golf, okay, that's one thing because it's you. But when you're playing a team, even everybody else had to do that job too. I just had a hard time. I see what you're saying. Yeah. In the team sport. But I'm boxing boxing is just one on one.

But I just still didn't like it even in boxing. Pagging. Now I look back at now. Of course, I love it now. But he knew what he was doing.

Well, it's psychological warfare. Yeah.

“That's what it is. I mean, he had sunny list and so confused before he fought him.”

He would show up at sunny list in his house. And like the middle of the night and stand on his lawn, scream at him. He was just fucking what that guy's had. He was climbing inside of his head and like making sure that all day long. He's thinking about him and and he also thought he was a legitimate insane person.

So he was worried all the time.

So he's like, worry, you're around the same person. Well, you ever see the video where they better be. Listen, if you can do, if you can do that and back it up. Which he did. He did.

And then I tip my idea.

“Did you ever see the video where they ran into each other at a casino?”

No. So sunny list. It was out of casino. I think sunny was playing cards. And Muhammad Ali, back when he was cashless clay came up behind him.

And he started to rent and rave it and say crazy shit and get. And sunny pulls out a gun. Oh. And shoots it into the air. And everybody scatters.

It was a blank gun. But he anticipated that Ali was going to do that to him. And I'm going to scare the shit out of this. You think you want to play crazy? Let's play.

See we can find that video, Jamie. The video is amazing. It's amazing. Because he just pulls this. And then he shows he like shoots.

Here it is. Put your headphones on real quick. Probably said phone. Yeah, pull it up. Pull it back to be good.

You're all in the gun. Oh. Yeah.

The whole situation finally came to a head when clay approached

him at the desert in Las Vegas. Yeah.

“The champ was shooting crafts and losing.”

Listen was in no mood to be harassed by the mouth from the south. You're all in the gun. Some fire frightened his young tormentor into a hasty retreat. It was filled with blanks. So he shot the gun into his jacket to show everybody that it was just a blank.

Oh. That is crazy though. So he was prepared. It's not funny. He had crazy brother.

That's crazy brother. That's pretty smart. Yeah. Is it? Yeah.

Because like you got this guy's acting crazy. Like I'm going to out crazy him. I don't want to shoot anybody. But I'm going to out crazy him. Give me a gun with some blanks.

It just pulled out the mic. He must've done Alex. Wow.

And had a huge lawsuit because he pulled out whatever the gun was a blank and killed somebody.

I mean, that's. Yes. That was a problem with the person who was handling the guns. Yeah. Exactly.

What? No. What do you mean that wasn't sunny list? And that was absolutely sunny list. It says it's from a movie.

But that's sunny list itself. Drama-tizing retelling was on life. The man with the gun is an actor. Not sunny list. Let me see that he's seen it was a movie set.

What? So it's a recreation of the actual scene that happened. There's no real footage of the list and firing at gun at Ali. What? It's not a clip circulating online, the one in nearly every rare footage post is a scene from a 1977 film called The Greatest.

Oh, I saw that movie. So let me see it again. Can I see the video again? Pull it back up there. That's crazy.

That's crazy. I want to support that sunny list. You're listening to a narrator talk. And this one even has a narrator. It wasn't a listener.

Wasn't sunny list and bald? No. No. No. Oh, that isn't sunny list.

Well, the video's so blurry. Oh, there you have it. Wow. That's not sunny list. Oh, my God.

I feel like such a dumb ass. Five footage of sunny list and training. So he was for back in the day. He was the scariest, heavyweight. Sunny list and was the guy.

He was he in prison? What's that? When he went to prison? Yeah. He went to prison.

But it was the way he won the title. The way he knocked out Floyd Patterson. It looked like Floyd Patterson. I had no business being in there with him. He was that good.

That good and that big. And a lot of people going into that fight thought. Muhammad Ali had no chance. They thought that he was going to get killed. Because, you know, Ali was a very good fighter who was up and coming fast.

Really fast with his footwork and his movement. But everybody thought that it was just a matter of time before listing got him. That's crazy. I recognize that guy, that actor. Is that the actor that was in.

Magnum PI. I think it is. The actor's name is Roger Emosley. Yeah, Magnum PI. Aha!

Look at you. Look at me. He proud of yourself. A little bit. I feel slightly better now.

But I've got a shame that I realized that that wasn't actually Sunny Liston. So, find some footage of Sunny Liston training.

“Even on this, some of this, I think, has already got some AI footage in it.”

Oh, really? Well, there's footage of him hitting their sunny. Yeah. And this footage of Sunny hitting the bag. And he would just put these holes in the bag.

He had just murderous punching power. He was such a dangerous guy. And everyone was scared of him back then. Now, because he was this towering, hooking, figure, doctor. But he had massive hands.

And, I mean, he would brutalize the spark partners. I mean, Sunny Liston was put in people away. I mean, he, look at the size of his hands. I can't take hands and tremendous power. But, you know, Ali figured out a way to just...

It didn't even look like that. The punch that took him out was even that big a punch.

That's the Lewis to mean the second one.

“Yeah, that's the fight when they fought Lewis to Maine.”

And that one is very tricky, because in that... So, he would hit guys with jabs and have them rocked. His hands were so massive and his power was so extraordinary. You ever boxed? I did some boxing.

I did it. - I did it. - I did it. - I did it. - I did it.

- I did it. - I did it. - You did that. - Bad enough you hit me with your fist. Don't kick me with your feet.

I don't want you to blow that. But I box one time, one round. - Yeah. - And I said that. - That's it.

- Yeah. - Oh.

- Again, it's like cooking duck.

So I've got to learn how to do. You can't just jump in and think you're gonna be good at it. - Yeah, well, I wasn't good at it. - Not only that. - I don't want to be hit.

- Yeah. - Not fun. - Well, back in the day and your day, the way guys would treat getting hit. If you got hit, there was no, like,

take a game off, get a value-aided. - No, nothing. - Concussion protocol. - Hop right back in, son. - I played against the minute sort of,

no, my me dolphin's in a playoff game, and I got knocked out, and I mean, knocked out. - And I guess I came to in the fourth quarter. (laughing) - I went back in, played pretty good too.

- Wow. - Not bad, lost the game, but yeah.

- So you're gonna win undefeated.

- So you're gonna win undefeated. - And then they put you back in after you woke up. - Well, I, I, I, something like that.

“I went out in the first quarter, I think.”

A score on touchdown, kept it, got knocked out, and came back in the fourth quarter. - Shoo. - Yeah, different. - Different.

- Different, oh yeah. - Nowadays, if a player gets knocked out, how much time do they make them take off? - They're going to take it. - They can't.

- And now you have a concussion guy in the booth representing the NFL, so they'll tell you to get him out. - Right. - And they go into a tent and they get evaluated more and likely if they've been stunned, they're not going back in.

- And how much time do they make them take off before they let them play again? - But they have to get evaluated every week, so it could be, what is that? - A little baby scars.

So when you don't want to finish a big one, - Oh. - A little tiny ones, little money crystals. - Oh, okay. Sometimes, all right.

- So, but when they do that, and these guys are KO today, if they get knocked out, do they have like a 30 day rule? - No, it's not 30 days, but they do go, it's a week, they go in, they keep getting

that, they keep getting evaluated. And they have to, you'll have, you'll have some guys. - There's no set timeline for discovery. - There you go. - Well, for recovery, rather players must progress

through these graded exertion phases without any increase in symptoms. Symptom limited activity, prescribed rest with limited physical and cognitive activity transitioning to light stretching and monitored light aerobic exercise.

So with the UFC when the guy gets knocked out, generally athletic commissions put a hold on them, like it's a 90 day hold. And then some of them have like 60 day no contact, so they're not even allowed to spar for 60 days.

- You get knocked out, and that brain gets rid of like that. - But the best game I played in high school, the best game I played in high school. A guy by the name of Larry Brewer, I fumbled coming out of the pocket in high school

against Minden high school.

“I'm rolling to the right, and I think the ball hits my leg,”

and it hits a ground, and it's a broom, a broom. And I'm chasing it, but the time I get to the ball and get my hands on it, and pick my head up, boom out. - I don't remember anything. And then I'm back in the game,

and I mean, it's the best game I played in high school. (laughing) - Joe, that's the best game I played in high school. Maybe I wouldn't worry, I don't know, but that's what I was gonna ask you.

- Crazy, and I went in, listen, I went, I've been to a couple of clinics just for brain work, just get, get them checked out. - Yeah, all the tests that they could possibly do, extensive tests, 'cause I was having trouble remembering,

that I opened the gate, that I opened the gate this morning. - Right, right, right. - We're about to open the gate, I'm sure I opened the gate, and I pushed the button, and when the button's green, the gate is moving, and then it goes red,

it's stopped, I mean, it goes yellow, it's stopped, then I push the button, it goes red, it's holding, it's staying open. - Six times, I remember six times, and I was like, did I push this button, no, I remember,

I remember, okay, that's something's wrong, it's like, someone got checked, yeah, how long it was this? - Ooh, years ago. - Years, 30, plus year ago. - And did they do something for you?

- In college, did they, no, I don't think so, I don't think I, I don't think anything came,

and found out I had ADD, which was,

“not a shocker, but was a shocker, because I,”

- I think everybody has, yeah, yeah. - Everybody's any good at anything, has it? - Yeah, creative people have ADD. - Creative people and people that are like, really into one thing, full on and do it.

- Well, they said, well, you're focused at this, that's what I'm fishing, I'm focused. - Right. - When I'm showing horses, I don't have a problem, I'm focused, but if I'm taking geometry,

you're going to check. - Exactly. - Yeah, exactly. - No interest. - No interest.

So, yeah, so that, if I'm learning something, I'm not interested in, I've got no focus. - I mean, you got to sit here and study all the stuff for all these different people. - Right.

- And I know you got to be interested in them. - You have to be interested. - Yes, you got to be interested, yeah. - But then I come to these people that don't have a problem being interested

and they can study anything and God bless them. I'm not one of those people. I have to be interested in one of them. - You had Bradley Cooper on. - Love Bradley.

- Yeah, he did, he's awesome.

- Was the, the, the brain guy, the Adam bomb, - Oppenheimer? - Oppenheimer. - He was in that movie? - Well, he directed it.

- That's right. - And he was in it. He was, he directed it, right? I think he did. - What did he do?

- He did, he did, he directed it. - What's up? - That's right. - It's Christopher Nolan directed it. - But Bradley was in the Oppenheimer?

- Yes. - Yes. - What was his role?

“- He's been at so many things like that.”

- What did he do in Oppenheimer? - Okay. - Oh, my bad. - What do you think about that? - The music guy.

- My stroke. - Yeah. - He directed that and started in it. - Oh, yes. - Oh, yes.

- Phenomenal. - I was gonna agree with you. I was like, what was Bradley an Oppenheimer? I wouldn't see an Oppenheimer in front of you. - I was just checking to see if you were

your own, you'd pay an attention. (laughing) - That dude who played Oppenheimer was, he wanted an Oscar. - Did he win an Oscar?

- At least he was up for the show. - Zero Murphy, right? - Yeah. - That guy is phenomenal, and what? - Silly and Murphy.

- Silly and Murphy. Silly and Murphy. - Well, he's phenomenal in peaky blinder. - Anybody that can act has got my attention, 'cause Cooper Bradley is.

- Well, real acting, right? - Real acting. - Real acting. I've done some sitcom acting. That's pretty nice.

- Yeah, and you were probably Joe, right? - I played Joe. - And I'm not Jerry Bradshaw. I'm not done like five movies. - And he was like, oh man, you're not.

- No, no, no, no, no. - I'm no actor. - But, you know, Daniel Day Lewis type acting. - Oh, whoa, that's him. - That's crazy.

- Yeah. - That's crazy. - That's Bradley. - Oh my God. - And he was in make-up.

- He was amazing in that movie.

“- Isn't that crazy that can make it look that realistic?”

That is nuts. Leonard Bernstein. - Hell, there you go. - Yeah, good. - You see the movie?

- Amazing. - I did not. - Oh, when you had him own here, did you tell him you saw it? - I did not. - I wouldn't probably.

(laughing) - I'm like, oh yeah. - No. - I had a guy we went back to high school and met the assistant trainer for the first time

in years. - I didn't know his name. And this buddy of my guy. (laughing) I used to be a kid over here, y'all.

And I'm like, he knows this. And they're going all out there. He'd be giving me a kid, give me a hug, give me a little bit of you. It's sort of a good.

And for why he did this, I'll never know.

He goes, what's my name? What's my name? He said that to him. What's my name? And I'm over there and I'm like, oh my God,

this is hilarious. - What is hilarious? - He's gonna have a clue. He'd have a clue. - Wait, probably forgot, if you left the gate open too.

(laughing) - Yeah. - We need to give the guy a break. - We need to give the guy a break. - But still, if you had game.

- If you, you know what I do all the time and I'll tell people this. - What? - Look, what's your name again? Joe?

Joe? Hey, I may ask you again. - Right. - What your name is. And then I may ask you again.

But I'm gonna get your name right. - I don't wanna sit here and not know. - People get mad at that. I don't think people should get me. - Yeah, I don't think they should go to get

'cause here, so I'm just a thing that happens to people and it definitely happens to people that meet too many people. Do you know what Dunbar's number is? - No.

- Dunbar's number is a number of people that you can keep in your memory. Because we evolved in tribal societies of small groups of people. - Where'd you get in all this?

- I just remember them. - Somebody tell you this? - Somebody tell you, I didn't study it. - Oh, you didn't. - This is Dunbar's number.

So the maximum amount of relationships a person can maintain. - Oh, yeah. - Which one are you? - Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

- Where are you? - Where are you mean? - Where are you in the five? - Five if you are zero, your patient is zero and five are the people that are very close to you.

So that's your support people. - That's okay. - And then 15 are your sympathy group. They're not quite as close as like the closest people to you, but they're pretty close.

- And then there's a close network of 50 people. - No, then you have a personal network, go 150 people, you have 500 acquaintances

- I know what's funny. Well, I'll make this bad habit. We all have bad habits.

My bad habit is always friend of mine.

I know Henry Winkler. - I know Henry Winkler. - I know Henry Winkler. - Yeah. - I did a movie with him once.

- Yeah. - Great guy. - Sweetheart. - And my wife says, and I'll say,

“I have his number, I have his number in my phone.”

And my wife and I do have Henry's number, but I'll say, well, so it's all because I've met them. I automatically associate them with being my friend. - I do the same thing. - Yeah, yeah.

- It's just my wife will say. - When you talk to him last. - Well, this people haven't talked to for years and years and years, but you'll have friends. - Yeah, I like a lot of people.

- I'm a friendly guy. - Yeah, I like a lot of people.

- I do, but in my circle, we all surround ourselves,

our best friends are people that we have a lot in common with and we share common values, common likes, whether it's horses cattle. My whole world is horses in cattle, horses in cattle. The people that book me for speeches

are dear to your friends of mine. How a different, Kirk, Manifede, different, different. Different, I work with him, I love being around him. Tell him, I have a habit of telling you, I love you, Joe, I love you, man.

- I love you too, I love you, man. And what does the same thing? - Yeah, yeah, okay, what do you really love him? - Well, it means, no, what it means is, I like him more than I just like.

You're just, yeah, I love him. - I love him a little bit here.

“And my wife is so smart, she's just like,”

you've really got their number, I say, y'all got their number, and their friends are yours. Yeah, their friends. - It was the last time you talked to him. - Well, I hadn't talked to him in a few years. - But if you're trying to talk to him a little while ago,

sometimes you can't be communicating with everybody all the time. This friends that I'm friends with, if I see him, I'm gonna hug him. - Yeah, we haven't talked to him in years. - You ever, you ever told someone this,

you ever told someone this, hey, you know what, before you became really famous, will you be really close to now or not? You ever said that? - No. - You ever, okay, I have.

- So before when they're famous or your famous? - I'm, Joe, I've been famous a long time. - Long time. (laughing) - Long time. - Yeah, long time. - Long time.

- But I've actually, my problem is it fits a problem. It's when I like somebody, I really like them. - That's a good problem. - Be in with them. - Yeah. - And then you don't ever hear from them,

but if you text them, they fire right back. And after a while, I'm going, why am I the one starting this relationship? Why am I, and I take it personal. - Did you really?

- Yeah, I do. - Okay. - Yeah, I do. I'm sensitive about stuff like that. I mean, if you say, if we swap numbers today before I leave, and I'm gonna text you and say, hey, man,

how's it going, how's the wife, how's the deer, how's the elk hunting, how are you doing, fine, and when we get along great, and then two or three months, 'cause I hadn't heard from Joe.

Hey, Joe, how are you doing, man? It's good to see. I mean, how are you doing? - Also, you get upset

of you're the one always initiates.

- I don't want always initiates, I don't want someone else to feel the same way towards me. That's insecurity, I know. I just finished this book, and the whole thing is, I'm always looking for people to like me,

as much as I like them, and that's not always the case. - Well, you're a very friendly guy. - I am. - Yeah. - I wish I weren't. - Why?

- I don't know why. - I like being friends. - Let me tell you a funny story. You wanna find a story? - Yeah.

- So when you get diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis, you get put on steroids. You get a balance of steroids in your body to find out what holds off the pain, 'cause that's you gotta block the pain.

And so you go on a 90 day trial and error. So I'm doing, I do the steroids, and I'm eating my ass. I'm, you know what, boy, I'm eating everything. I can't sleep, and I'm eating. I'm doing a good job eating.

And I'm working out twice a day. Are you kidding me? And I blow up, man, I put on like 60 pounds. - Whoa. - Huge.

- Go to Hawaii. My wife and I are in K-Mart. Nice K-Mart, it's closed down, but it's really nice K-Mart. So we're in there, we're getting stuff for the house and stuff.

And we're going down the aisles and people look, "Hey, Terry, how you doing?" Yeah, you know, I'm doing, I'm doing good. You know, I'm a little puppy right now. I'm on steroids, I put on quite a bit of a way

that you probably can see, and, you know, I'm a little embarrassed, but you know, it's going to get it balanced out. Oh, yeah, sorry to hear about that. Hey, Terry, how you doing? Well, you know, if that, I'm a little puppy right now.

I'm taking, you know, I'm on steroids. I got room to tour to arthritis.

“You have to take steroids and get your balance to pay.”

And I do this without even thinking about it, Joe.

So we walk out, getting a car in my wife,

“my wife who loves me to death says, "Honey, honey, listen."”

When people say, "How are you doing, Terry?" They don't want to hear about steroids. I don't want to hear about drugs. I just want to hear, "Hey, how you doing?" They don't care.

They recognize you and they're just happy to meet you. They don't care that you, you know, whatever. I'm going to, am I really, am I really doing that? She said, "Yeah, baby, you're doing that to everybody." I was so embarrassed, Joe.

I'm like, "Oh, my God, I can't believe that." But cross the highway, we go where? Brand new target, massive target, awesome target. You know, yeah. Now, you know, shop at these places, but I do.

I shop at Target. Do you? Yeah. Love, I love Target. You go to Walmart?

I've been to Walmart. I've been to Walmart. It's been a couple of years. Well, I live in St. Joe, Texas in Walmart. We get dressed up and put a suit on and we go to Walmart.

It's nice. Anyway, let me go to Target and I got my wife's diary to tell me. So we go to Target and we're pushing the buggy and we're going down the aisle. Hey, Terry, how are you doing? How am I doing?

Is that man?

“You know, I go boy with this, but I got a room to throw that right at it.”

And I've been taking steroids and I'm really putting on a lot of weight and really put me, not stand up, Joe, no kidding. And I lean down and I pull my pants like up or my sock is and I push my sock down. And you can see that giant indenture from all the fluid that you're holding. Right?

And when I put my hand down, and I see that rig, I start laughing. I can't help myself. I just start laughing. You big idiot.

Hey, don't give me a shit if you got room at third.

I was so embarrassed, but I just couldn't help myself. I just started laughing. Caught me. Caught me. Well, you're just a genuine guy.

Yeah, what are you doing? Something wrong with that. No. Nothing wrong with that. No.

I'm not apologizing. Yeah. But sometimes you just want reciprocation. I do have it. I understand what you're saying.

But it's way better to be super friendly than the opposite. Is your wife super friendly? She's friendly. She's friendly. Yeah.

Is your friend as you? Uh, yeah, she's pretty friendly. Can you go anywhere in Austin? Yeah. I mean, you talk to a lot of people.

Yeah. Talk to people. But most people are really nice. Yeah, that's wonderful. Yeah.

Most people are just happy to see you and say hi. Shake hands. Yeah. Give you some knuckles. Yeah.

To take selfie. Yeah. Take a selfie. Yeah. I like selfies.

I don't see what the problem is.

There's no problem. There's nothing wrong with that. You're just a friendly guy. And that, but that done bars numbers what's going on.

“Like that's why you can't remember people.”

That's really all it is. I mean, you think about your Terry Broucha, how many people have you met in your life? You probably met a million people, like literally a million people. But if you were, if you were in bad shape right now, you got people you'd call you got a handful you could call?

Oh, yeah. For sure. Yeah. Really care about you. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. But that's how everybody is like a handful. But to take care and nurture your friendships that are really close, takes effort. It does.

And if you're 15 or 20, you don't have any time, and you're where stuff out. I think we all, we start here and we, yes, well, there's also some people that disappoint you along the way. Unfortunately. Man, love, are you kidding?

Yeah. Have you ever, have you ever just thrown all your trust and love into your buddy? And then that sucker, 15 or whatever, and just boom. Some of 'em. Yeah.

There you go. Wow. It's been a long time since I've had that happen. But there's some people that just don't want to talk to you. And then I'm the first one to say, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I didn't, I didn't mean that. I'm sorry. And then they don't take your apologies and they bring it up again. I'm sorry.

Look. I told you. I'm sorry. I know. Then they do it again.

Yeah. Look. Yeah. I said, I'm sorry. And then hang up.

That's it. Well, some people just don't want to be happy. And some, they don't. And they, they actually enjoy being in conflict because conflict takes them away from thinking about all the things that they need to correct in their life.

So they always like to be in some sort of a situation where there's some sort of

a dispute or someone wrong them or something's disrespectful or something. Yeah. It's just distractions. Most of it is distractions. It's a personality problem.

I have this just happened yesterday. Did you? I'm not going to mention their name because they're okay.

were showing it in a great job. I brought the horse home.

“Horse wasn't going to be good enough to go to the world show, which is the Super Bowl”

but he needed another year of growing and training. It's how brought him home. Crazy about these people. Been with them years.

I mean, the trainer was my first trainer ever and that's been forty-something years ago.

Anyway. So I'm over there. They came to church. I got them to come to church. I was singing in church last two weeks ago and they came.

I asked them to come. I'm singing in church. They said, "Okay, great. They came here and was saying, "They loved our preacher." They said, "We're going to come back." Well, they came back yesterday.

All right? They came back. Yes. We have a meeting greet during the service I got up and want to, "Oh, man, it's great to see you." And not even thinking that they had had this stuff for so long and did a great job.

I said, "Guess who came by the house the other day and saw the barn name for the stud is Bradley." And saw Bradford fell in love with him, and I said, "I'm home with him. He's going to show him, oh, blah, the one pretty. Got mad, got room in church, got mad, got upset.

“And I just called chills when over my went, and I got to think of what does I do?”

What did I do? What did I do? And then I got to think and I took this horse from them and I gave it to another trainer. And then they got this horse looking as good as he did. They got him going, now I'm given it to a competitive trainer and I'm telling him, "Hey, yeah,

he fell in love with him. I said, "You're taking home with you." It hurt them. And it was obvious that they were very, one of them was really upset with me in church. And so, preachers, I'm getting ready to start and I had to go get back to my seat.

And then when I'm going to tell Tammy, my wife, I said, "Holy cow, man, I just hurt their feelings." I mean, they are upset with me because I sent this horse with some of the trainer.

And I was like, "God, I would have never done that.

I would have never done that. Had I been thinking, I wouldn't have said a word about that. Not a word." But since they had had the horse, I figured that it was no big deal, right? My horse.

I'm doing it with it what I want. Throughout the service, which was a great service. I was picking up on what the preacher was saying, "I found myself during that service. Would you ready for this prayer that God would help me go make things right with them?" Because I couldn't stand the fact that I had upset them so much.

So when the service was over, and they were going, "I'm going grab that I am so sorry. I want to apologize. I wasn't thinking, I made a huge mistake. You're my dear friends, I just don't, you're younger." And I feel like I made it right, but I had to go and make that right because it just.

Well, that's great. Terry, that means you're a good guy. That's great. So yeah, you know, you're a great guy, that's a great thing to do because you care. If you didn't care, if you were like, "Ah, screw them."

What's wrong with that? What's wrong with that? That's because you're a good guy. You're a good guy. And you're a good guy.

That's because you're a good guy. That's because you're a good guy. I really believe that. And you wanted them to feel better. Absolutely.

And I bet you did make it right. And I didn't do it. I wasn't doing it. I wasn't doing it. Of course.

Of course. I don't think, you know, I mean, some people... You ever done that? You ever gone to school? I went to a guy and told him a hundred thousand times how sorry it was and I want

you to know he was my best friend at the time and we have not spoken since. That's... No. Well, some people are not kind. That's not on me.

No, that's on him. That's on him. There were some people are not charitable and they don't want to forgive people. They'd like to be wronged. There's people that like to be in conflict with people.

“Generally, those people, their life is a mess.”

That's generally not a balanced person. This guy's life is not a mess, but I just... Well, why is that? Look, it's how you say something here today, and it really upsets me. You're probably going to know it now that we've been getting in your press head here.

Are you okay with this? And I'm going to tell you, you know, no, I'm not okay with that. Well, then I would apologize. That's what I'm... Yeah.

And if you said something to piss me off, I think if you apologize. Because I'm not accepted immediately, but you've already said, I'm a good guy. I'm not going to do that. People don't mean to hurt people's feelings for those parts. Some do.

Some do.

But those people, you generally know that that's that kind of person in the first place.

And you probably wouldn't be hanging out with them. No. But when you're close to someone, you love someone, you've got to have some forgiveness. You've got to realize that people are human. When you've been sentenced for as long as I have been with this one person, I have another

person. What was the issue? It's funny, but I'm on the golf course. That's it? Yeah.

You know why? Because I suck. Yeah. I'm bad Joe. I'm bad.

No, I love to play.

“And I love to play with my friends and have a simple little $5 bet in this not mine.”

But I love to say, oh, nice shot.

You know, it's fun. Me. Me. I know I'm an asshole. Right.

You know, you know the bad side of you, right? You know that you're a bad side. I know mine. I know mine. Yeah.

My wife calls it Roy. Oh, you have a different guy. I thought of you. What does that movie? True.

Primal fear. Oh, okay. [MUSIC] You know, it looks admirable. He and you go, "Had me fool."

You go, "Holy cow." Thoughts took on the name Roy. So when I'm going into a dog or a doctor. Are we a doctor? Yeah.

Roy. Yeah. I think it was Roy. He turned at the end. Oh, I see.

Did he have you fool? Yeah. Oh, I'm locked. I thought it was like, what? I know.

Right. That's the end of that movie. I'm like, whoa. That's another very smart guy. Edward Norton.

I had him in on the park. Yeah. Very interesting guy. Yeah. I find actors in general, very.

Well, the really good ones. Yeah. There. They are Cooper. I love.

McConaughey. I've done a movie. He's great. And great guy, too. George.

Also very smart. Yeah. Very smart. George Forman.

We did a show together called Better Late The Never.

Never got to know him in two years. Never got to know him in two years. Really? Never got to know him in two years. Totally didn't associate with any of us.

We have lunch. He'd sit over here with his son. He had dinner. He'd sit over here with his son. It could be.

I would only guess that he's shy. He didn't like the fact that we drank. He didn't like the language that was used because he's a preacher. Right.

“I asked him one time and said, George, how big's your congregation?”

He said 120. I said, really how long you've been doing? I think he said something maybe 20 years or something. I said, because I've been taught as a Baptist that is a preacher. Your congregation grows, right?

Right. Right. Your congregation grows. And I said, how many? 120.

I said, oh, wow. It's small. You build it and you go and he said, no, 120 is enough. 120 is enough. I said, George, when do you start preparing your sermon?

Do you start on Tuesday like most preachers? No. Oh, you don't. So when do you start preparing for your sermon? Wednesday?

No. So when do you start preparing for your sermon? He says, when I stand up to preach, God tells me what to say. Wow. Okay.

You're going to argue with George Format. I'm not. But that's not why. All right, brother. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm not arguing. But yeah, I wanted to get to know him. He was friendly. But he was just. It was blocked.

Yeah. Yeah.

“Well, he's also another guy that's been famous for a long time.”

He's probably figured out how to block people out. And also, he went through that dark period when he quit fighting for 10 years. And, you know, the losing to Ali, I mean, that was very hard on him. You know, he knew better when he lost the thrill in Manila. He knew better.

It was rumbling the genre. Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, yeah, that was a long time. They both rhyme.

Yeah. They definitely rhyme. Well, that was Don King, right? Yeah. Oh, well.

Yeah. He knew it to promote it. But he knew better. He told me that the hit that I took was nothing. But he said I was so tired.

Yeah. And I went, you're a kid. And he said, yeah, he said the hit that hit was nothing. Nothing. But he went down.

He just. Thank God. I'm down. I can get some air and get some breath. He was definitely exhausted.

Oh. That was a. But he knew try to do. He knew what was going on. But he thought with his power.

He'd break a rib or something. Yeah. You know, well, he had so much power. Oh, I mean, when he fought Joe Fraser, he lifted him off his feet with a punch.

I mean, he was extraordinarily powerful.

He hit so hard. Yeah, George. How can you be that quick? I mean, that big. Yeah.

Well, that's his job. Yeah. Oh, he was very impressed. Yeah. I mean, that Ali fight was so crazy.

That was another fight where Ali was expected to lose. Just like the sunny list and fight. Yeah. And it was such a upset that Hunter Thompson flew to Africa to cover it. And didn't go to the fight.

He wound up just drinking and floating around in his pool and blew off the fight. Because he didn't want to watch Ali get knocked out. Really? Because Ali was his hero. And he messed it up.

Because he was supposed to be a journalist for rolling stone at the time. Just so he flew him over there to cover that fight.

You threw out your intelligence and tell me throwing me a curveball. Because I'm going 100. I'm going 100. Okay. Yeah.

Who's Hunter? No idea. Who's that guy? You don't know Hunter as Thompson. Why would I know him?

You don't know him? You never know him. The Gonzo journalist. Hunter as Thompson. No.

No. Very famous. It's in the Quarter Horse Journal. No. The Angus Weekly.

No. No.

“He's the guy from Fear and Loading in Las Vegas.”

Do you know that?

You never heard of that book?

No. The movie that Johnny Depp did. Fear and Loading in Las Vegas. We played Hunter Thompson. He did write that about horses.

The Kentucky Derby is decadent and depraved. That's one of his best works. Really. Fantastic. Listen.

When I first got into the cattle business, my wife, X-Wife, and I went to a big cattle sale. To your point about me saying, "I don't know who he is." Now I just played it off. All right. Cut anyone embarrassed myself.

But then I got to think of, "I don't know who this guy is." Now you answer who he was, but I didn't care. You know, I get it. So I go to this cattle sale. This auctioneer and I.

The auctioneer is out there and he wants to meet me, Terry Bradshaw. So I got my X-Wife there. I got my X-Wife there. The auctioneer and a couple of his ring stewards. You know, and we're sitting there talking.

So I asked a simple question. So tell me, Miss Dawks, and you're, "What do you make the most money on?" An auctioneer off stuff. Terry, we're really hitting the home run right now with limousines. Limousines.

The sea. My brain. I'm at a cow auction. Right. And he's a cow auctioneer.

Right. He's not supposed to sell cars. Right. Cars. Do you think cars?

Limousines. That's what I was thought. That's what I was thought. I was about to say to him, "Oh, my God. Do you mean to tell me you sell cars?"

“And my X-Wife goes, "You mean to tell me that you sell cars?"”

And he goes, "Oh, sweetie." And I'm like, "What the fuck? What the fuck did you add there, boy?" And he goes, "No honey. Limousine is a breed of cattle."

Oh, that's a little bit. There you go. There's a limousine right there. You know what I like about the show? When you just think you're throwing everybody a curb ball.

They throw it up on the screen. Jamie.

Jamie, you're amazing man.

He's the best. When he's sober, he is no better. When he's sober. When he's sober. Did you see him when he's drunk?

Oh, my God. But anyway, I get, I should write a book about some of these stuff. But you should? I should. Why not?

I don't know. I think I've got enough time. Yeah, maybe a doctor, man. Maybe just sit down with someone. I haven't told all these stories.

Yeah, you think he ain't nobody care about these stories. Surely would. No. Absolutely. Edit him up.

Do a good job with the editing. Should I start a podcast? Yeah. No, I don't. Terry Bradshaw experience?

No, I don't think so. No. You know what? Joe, listen. You started this 15 years ago or something?

Something like that. Yeah.

Do you have any idea what would be like this?

No. No.

“So why do I want to do something like this when there's a million podcast going on?”

Well, you would only do it if you like doing it. I wouldn't like doing it. Well, then don't do it. I don't want to look. I got enough of my play right now.

Don't do it unless it's interesting. Besides that, who's going to come on my show? A lot of people would do it. No, I don't think so. No, I don't think so.

I came on your show when you had a TV show. Did you? Yeah. What show was that you had a TV show? Yeah.

Yeah, I was on it. That was a guest. When I had the Fox show, whatever that talk show thing you did was. Get out. Yeah.

You were one of my star guests. I was a guest when I was on news radio. That was a sitcom. Yeah. Oh, wow.

I believe it was news radio. It was a long time ago. Oh, I remember. No, you don't. No, you don't.

Oh, no, no, Joe. Yeah, you were great by the way. Yeah. No, I loved you, man. You were great.

We talked about limousine cattle. Oh, yeah. Yeah, hotter tops then. What is it? I was drinking coffee now.

It was a hoop. Yeah. Yeah. That was a fun show. I know, I don't remember.

Some of you could do something like that if you wanted to. I mean, you could do anything if you wanted to. But you definitely would get guests if you ever wanted to do a podcast. I did a radio show once. How was that?

It was good. It's good, but it's just hard to get people. Really? Yeah. That doesn't make sense to me.

Hi, wow. Where were you doing it out of? LA. Oh, somebody people in LA. How's that hard to do?

When I had my daytime show in LA, I couldn't get anybody. Really? I got, um, what'd you go, Berg? Ten. One time.

What you laughing for? How is she? What is she funny? You can't. She was the Black.

Yeah, she was. She's the biggest thing we ever had on the show. She's on the view. Yeah. I don't know.

All those heads get together. (Gasps) (Gasps) Whew.

I'm like, ladies, go outside.

Okay. So I had who up he, that, you know, a really, I had Charlton Heston. Now you're talking. How was he? Oh, fabulous.

Yeah. I couldn't, the show could, got, could have done three hours. I was just fascinated with he was so nice. You know, is there anything worse, Joe? Then thinking you, and that's my understanding.

You won't bring people on here that you don't feel comfortable with him. No, if I'm not interested in something. Yeah, so I'm very honored to be here today. But can you imagine? Can you imagine?

“Can you imagine having people on that are just jerks?”

Yeah. And are you interviewing them? And it's like, oh, God. Yeah. Where can I go here to get some out of this interview?

Yeah. You know, it's just God. It's just, but, yeah. But Charlton Heston, I had Garth Brooks, which was fabulous. I gave him the whole, I gave Charlton Heston the whole hour.

Just man him. It was, it's all kind of like this. He was amazing. Yeah.

He was like one of the first big actors that was like publicly conservative.

Remember how he was like, did the inner ring? They caught hell for that. Yeah. Was he the head of the inner ring? No, no, no.

It was a part of the inner ring. He was the head of the inner ring. He heard of it. I think he did something with the inner ring. Yeah.

But he was, yeah, he was huge. He famously was like, you could have my gun when you pry my cold fingers from it. Say, yeah, I'm, yeah, I'm, my brother has, I don't know how many guns. And what do you do with all those guns? You've got to have guns.

I was like, Gary, he's got those, those rifles that shoot 5000 rounds in 10 seconds. You know what are those things called? There. He's got five or six hours. What do you do with all those guns?

Yeah, you live low. You're going to need a gun.

“There's a lot of people like that in this country.”

Oh, my God. They are. Yeah. And I got a, I got a, what do I got? I got a bunch of guns, but I gave them all the effort.

Everybody gives me guns. I don't shoot guns. You don't shoot guns at all? No. No.

No. My wife wanted to let me put a gun by the bed. I've been, I've been, um, birdlerized six times. Have you really? Yeah.

When I got shot out with a shotgun, this is how I can tell you that when it's, you get shot out with a shotgun flames come out of the gun. Flames. And I'm running the backyard, just to get in my car. And this guy goes around the backside.

Boom. And where were the names? And babies. And then I get in the, and the old GTO, 1970 GTO, yellow and black. Oh, big.

Good boy. Nice. And I got in. But I'm used to pushing the button or pull in reverse. You go down.

Right? Pull it down. I turn around. I hit the break. I go forward riding through the wall.

Realized you got to go one click. Yeah. It was not good. Not good. But my wife won't let me keep anything.

“So where, where did you get burglarized six times?”

Rustin. Rustin, Louisiana. Yes, Phil Louisiana, my ranchers. Yeah. On your ranchers.

Yeah. So they came onto the ranch. Yeah. How big was the ranch? Yeah.

400 acres at the time. So they had to do some driving to get to the house. And they had to go through the gate, the gate, the gate. I locked. So how did they get in.

And you ever, let me taste something. You were laying bed at night. And it's 1 a.m. in the morning. And you feel the presence of somebody else in your house. Hmm.

All right. And a flashlight is going over your head and going through the wall like this. I can't even begin to tell you. You can't breathe. And you don't.

And I'm laying down like this and flatten myself. And back in those days, you're too young to know this. Remember, well, the princess's phone. You know everything we've been talking about today. You've been throwing all kinds of shit up here.

And you don't know what a princess phone. Do you know what? Are you saying Prince Princess? Princess. Princess. It's a phone.

It was one of the first push button phones.

You didn't have to. Okay. It's a princess. So I took my. Look at you.

It doesn't. It's a princess phone. There you go. Thank you. Did you know what that is, Jimmy?

No. Look. Look. Look. I'm laying in bed.

I'll take my left hand. And I slide it over to my princess phone. I take this receiver off. And I take my fingers. And I go across the dials.

And I dial. And I'm my uncle. Who lives 200 yards away. I get to phone. Pull up to the microphone.

So people here. I pull up.

I'm laying back trying so you can't see me or anything.

And I say, Bobby. I got a burger. He said my. He said my bedroom window. He says.

All right. I'm on my way. So I take the phone down. Because. And you can see the guy here's my.

Here's Michael. Come in. And this guy takes off.

“And he chases him down through the pasture.”

And he loses him out through the. I had another guy go through my house. Paranat. Same place. No.

Different place. Wow. And college tearing up my. Taring up my dishes in my kitchen. He was looking through the dishes.

He. He making noise. I don't think I could feel was the guy's trying to run me off. I was living in the method as a parsnitch. I don't know the edge of town.

Come to find out. This guy was living in the attic over the office. So the cops found all kind of paraphernalia. Oh. Oh.

Oh. He ran me off.

Or he might have just been drunk.

I'm not. I don't know what he was. I went and found out. But you see. I've come home.

I've come home twice. It had guys running out of my house. Taking off. Same house. Yeah.

Six. Six of these I had. Cheese. There have been shot at. So you.

Runnin away from these guys. Got to get in. I forgot Jamie. Jamie. One more time, son.

I'm going to ask you what your name is. Okay. All right. One more. Told you three times, right.

All right. I got you down now. So the same place.

“Why'd you keep getting broken into this one place?”

I don't know. That in the middle of nowhere. I'm Terry Bradshaw. They want to come in. No, the guy came down.

He stole. He stole all my stuff out of my garage. All the. All the. The.

The. Chainsaw. He got all the kind of tools and stuff. That you could go and sell. Just quite me out.

No security. No. No security system. Nothing. No.

I got dog now. And now I've had. Since Tammy and I. Twenty two years now. And I got a guard dog.

But I won't. I will not leave my wife at home. My wife. My wife and I in twenty two years have been part two days. I will not leave without my wife.

What kind of guard dog you get? Term is shepherd. I got him from Wayne. Some on a bitch in South Carolina. Okay.

So you got a train. I got a badass dog. His name is legend. Then I bought him. I got a female this year.

Her name is. When named after the Viking character. Threa. Threa. Threa the queen.

Threa.

“So I'm going to read those because I'm tired of spending 20,000.”

Four. I'm going to raise my guard dog. Nice. Nice. And you know what's great about them.

They're guard dogs. You don't play with them. Right. You don't play with them. Right.

You don't rough them. You don't grab them. You don't attack them. They don't mess around. Right.

They don't mess around. They're serious. They're serious. Yeah. Exactly.

You got a dog. Yeah. We got. I have a golden retriever. I love them.

They're great. I mean he ain't guarding shit. No, I know you're right. Hey, I'm calling him. There's ice cream up there.

Absolutely. We'll share it. He'll let everybody in. Oh, I've got the dog. I've got eight doxons.

I have another dog that's a King Charles Cavalier. Oh, those are the little tiny dogs. Oh, my God. He's so adorable. Yeah.

He jumps in the pool. And he's just started. He's a year old. And he started swimming over the last couple months. And he gets so excited that he winds like you.

You think he's in pain or something. He's talking. He's talking. Yeah. And he just can't wait to jump in the water.

Really? Oh, he loves it. Two of my dogs and talk constantly. Oh, really? Oh, and this morning,

I'm a little tired today because for some reason these two, these two, they sleep with me overnight. Their names are Sadie, Lynn, and Baby Girl. Once a black miniature dog's in the other one is a Australia Shepherd looking black and tan,

you know, spotty. Oh, they have precious. But Baby Girl likes to get on my chair. When she's got to go outside, she gets on my chest. Put your chin right under my mouth.

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. And I'll wake up. And I know exactly what's going on. And I'll sit there and I'll go. What time is it?

And I'll go over and I'll get the TV control. And I'll shake it so the light will come up. Oh, God, it's 11 o'clock. You got to be kidding me. So I'll take them outside and they'll go potty.

That's just good.

Once normally, a lot of times never.

But once max. - Once max, last night three times. - Three times. - Oh yeah, 130, 130. - Ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha,

(screaming) - Oh, why? You've got to pee again. You've got to be kidding me. So I slide it right down off the bed, these two come.

I sit on the steps and put my head against the porch pole,

and I'm like this. (laughing) They're heads. (laughing)

“The doorway. And they're looking at me like, what are we doing?”

(laughing) I'm like, you got to pee, right? No, no, not really, it's. So I go back to 330, here I go again, and then they went to the bathroom.

But this is, you know. - So sometimes they just wanna wake up. - They just, yeah, yeah. - I mean, I look at my dog lover, okay. - Me too.

- I got nine, 10, 10 dogs now. - Do you really? - Oh yeah, I got a 10 dogs and two serious guard dogs. - Two bad ass dog. - Yeah, so those ones are dog and bad ass.

The other one's gonna be bad ass. - Yeah. - That's such a deal. - And you live where I live, out where I live. I don't know where you live, but what are you doing?

What is that? - This is ultra. It's a new tropic, do you know what that is? - No. - Essentially brain vitamins.

- But come here, don't swallow it. - 'Cause it's a pouch, like a nicotine pouch, same kind of thing. - Oh, it's like you got a smoking addiction. - Yeah, but it's got nicotine addiction. - That's not what you're saying.

- What is it, you said nicotine? - No, it's a new tropics.

“- Is that one of those things that you're doing now?”

- It's like brain vitamins. - Is it like advertisements? - No, it's like nutrients, brain nutrients. (laughing) - Sorry, it sucks thing, I couldn't help myself.

- Listen, we're not friends anymore. - Yes, we are. - I'm upset. - No, no, no, no. - You probably had to figure it out again.

- Is that hilarious though that you could make fun of a guy playing golf and he doesn't wanna be your friend forever because of that? - I've shot. - Yeah, you got a flood.

- And I had another friend. - You got off light. - Yeah, that's another friend. - Another friend I spent four days a week with 'cause I was like I said I'm playing golf

and didn't have a job. We hung out his wife and I went to dinner all the time, cooked out all the time, and then one day I thought, hey, I mean, we just recently passed away. So hey, man, I got us a tea time for more at one,

30 dead at a, call me back, nothing. - Hey, nothing, two days, three days, four days, five days, a week, two weeks, a month, nothing, nothing.

Never heard from him again.

- What happened? - His wife didn't like me. - Whoa. - So what I found out? - His wife didn't like you.

- Yeah, well it's not the like, I'm a nice guy. - Yeah, I don't understand that at all. - Yeah, I take to this jealous of our relationship. - Oh, there's those kind of relationships. Guys and gals will do that, well they separate you

from your friends, that's a real fucking problem. - Well, that's a giant red flag right there. That's not good, a person who doesn't want you having good friends, that's crazy. - Yeah, I know, that's crazy.

- You know, I'm luckiest guy in the world because I work for a network with four, sometimes five guys, and if you can put five big egos together and have everybody love and care about one another, I'm gonna tell you that special.

- That is special. - That fox show is so special. It is, you've seen this show, I assume, and we're just like, just like a locker room. - Well, that's what we used to be.

- So much fun.

“- Yeah, and that's what people like watching too.”

- I think so. - I think the right, yeah. People want to watch people that actually are friends. - Yeah, and we have giant fun. - We had this one, I mean, you learn where you can go

with your friends, all right, you learn, don't go here, don't go there, which is fine. You want to make sure that 'cause we're in live television. So you want to, you don't want to embarrass anybody on live television.

- Of course. - So you learn where to go. And you build that trust, and then that trust because you have the trust, you become, you bond, you become, hey, how you doing?

Hey man, I'm just a sweet, how's your daughter? It's great, how's your wife, great. I mean, it's just, you just get to everybody hugs everybody, hey, how was your week? I mean, it's, I can't even get, the day that that show

is over for me, and I hope I die on set,

which is I've always said, if I could just die on sets,

think about a joke, think about it. If I die on set, seriously? If I could just get a couple of words out before I go. (laughing) - I don't want to just, I just want to last just one.

I really do think Dallas is going to win the Super Bowl. - No, if I could just get something out forever, immortal, right? - Right. - Ah, great.

- Yeah. - So I said that's, and that's the way I feel. I assume that's the way you do this show. You can't wait to do, you should. This is awesome to get down and sit down with people

from different walks of life, basically. - Yeah. - Politicians don't agree with you. Religious people, whatever.

you know, you get to know these people.

“Yes, all these questions, or in my case,”

I'm just jumping around here. (laughing) Well, he hadn't asked me about this. - I like it, Jamie. - Jamie.

- Jamie. - Jamie, I told you, Jamie just left me. - That's it. - No, I got it. - No, I got it.

- Young Jamie. - You think it like Van Halen? Jamie's crying. - Wow, wow, Jamie's crying. - Remember that song?

- Look, I got it here. - Jamie, Jamie, young Jamie. - Jamie, are you married? - Nope. - Had a boy.

- Free, ladies. - How old are you, Jamie? - Old enough. (laughing) - What do you say?

- Old enough. - What's that? - What's old enough? - Old enough to know.

- So how old are you, Jamie?

- 43. - Hmm. - Okay. Got a girl? - All right now.

- Ooh, okay. - He's free right now. - Yeah. - Ladies. - Young Jamie's on the prow.

- Jamie, you own the prow. - Sure. - All right. (laughing)

“- Where's your, there's a lot of good looking women”

in Austin, Texas, James. - There is. - It's a good place. - You need some help. - Good place, boys.

- Good place, boys. - Dile, let's go out tonight. (laughing) - I guess we need to move on. - Yeah.

- Let's move on. - Anyway, I'm so, in talking about that show, it's just... - Well, having a show like that, we're a bunch of people are really actually friends,

is so huge for the viewer. - It is, you wanna listen, do you wanna turn on this show like pre-game? Come on, pre-game shows, right. - I watch him and I go, oh, guys.

- Especially if it's staring down this, shut up! - Right. - Shut up, up! - Announce it, guy's doing a game. - Shut up, right.

- Or when they're just sports guys that really aren't actually passionate about football. - Yeah. - And you hear him talking, you're like, - You know what they're talking about?

- What's that? - Yeah. - They get it all right here. - Yeah. - And let me taste something. - Yeah.

- I hate stats. - I hate 'em. - They're okay occasionally. - If they should be. - If they should be. - Real point. - Yeah.

- But if all you got is, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo,

no third quarter when the wind blows.

- Yeah. - Or not the South West, boy, yes. - If it makes a point in a big, better, otherwise. - Right, right, right.

“- I remember once, well, anyway, I was talking about,”

all the guys that I love telling this story, I don't know how he, how he is my best friend on the show without question. I mean, we are so different. He went to Villanova.

I went to an engineering school, Louisiana Tech. I got a college degree, how he, I'm sorry. He didn't graduate. (laughing) I'm sorry, how he, don't hate me for his big ass.

When you're talking about, I didn't graduate. Hey, I love it. I shouldn't have said, Joe, I didn't say that. Anyway, so we're doing this show. And we had Jimmy Johnson on the show.

Jimmy's great. Oh, Jimmy was awesome. So Jimmy's telling this story, all right. And Jimmy's, Jimmy's, it's a funny story. And Jimmy starts laughing.

We all start laughing. Straight hand. (laughing) We're belly aching, that's funny. That's fun, Jimmy.

Michael, straight hand's next. The director, we got it all worked out. He goes, Jimmy, Michael, Terry, howie. Jimmy, howie, yeah, howie. So much a straight hand.

He adds to that story, and it's even funnier. Woo, woo, oh my God, stop, stop right now. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Now it's my turn. Now I've got a, I've got a, I've got a,

your comedian, you know, you've got a, you've got a match in it, at least, right? Or do it one better. I'm adding to what Michael said to what Jimmy said, and we're rolling.

(laughing) Oh, God, stop, oh, this is fun, this is killing me. Oh, how he's turned. How he looks at the camera. The outside linebacker for Seattle,

Bucky Buckhalter. Spring does ankle and pre-game warm up, and he won't be starting today for the sea hoax. Casper, Julian will be in his place out of Kansas State.

What? And then we go to commercial break. And I'm like, three ha ha ha. One, woo, I'm looking at how he, and I'm staring at how, I'm just like this.

He's turning, he feels me. He turns around and says, what? That's it. You can't help it, can you? Help what?

You know what I'm talking about? No, I don't. What are you talking about? I'm just like, you're boring. (laughing)

And for the rest of this show, he was hilarious, and he said, well, being boring, I'm gonna be saying, and it was funny, but yeah, it was, you can't do that unless there's trust. Right, you know, right.

And straight hand, we made the first day straight hand

was on the show, we gave him half a cake. He said, why I'm getting half a cake when you just got divorced. You lost the other hand. (laughing)

So, that's hilarious. Well, if you can't joke around with people, that's no fun. No, that's not a good relationship. Well, you better know, you better know who you're joking around with. Yeah, but it's like you can't,

“if you can't joke around with someone, like what's the point?”

That's what people do. I did a point of fun in life. You should be able to take a joke, you should be able to give a joke, you should be able to have fun with it.

Just gotta know when you just gotta know when. Sure. Yeah, I mean, friends, friends know when. Sure. I mean, I, you know, I tell you how we all the time,

all the time, and his son Kyle just got signed with CBS for their today's show, which is. Oh, that's awesome. Great, great for him, and he's good. How did movies for a while, right?

How he was voted the up-and-coming star, and he had these three young kids, and he says, "I don't want to raise my kids in LA." Where's the best place I can raise my kids, and they found the school system.

Sean is still Virginia. He moved to Virginia and took his kid there and quit good mood for him. Yeah, that's a guy who's having your priorities together. I remember reading something about him talking

about like his experience with movies like he didn't like it. Well, he didn't like Hollywood. He didn't like the whole thing.

“And he, he could have been, did someone hit on him, too?”

He had only, I think some guys hit on them. Oh, guy, hit on them. Yeah. Is that good? Find up that's true.

I don't know if I'd find that out. Yeah, maybe don't look that up. Forget it. Don't look that up. But the point, Simon, I mean, Jamie.

Jamie. (laughs) Suckin' with the two-day brawl. (laughs) Oh, like, Jamie, don't look that up,

'cause yeah, I don't look it up. I think I might have made that up. Or somebody might have tried to make it. It might not be true. But the point is like, he could have been,

he did a bunch of big movies. Yes. And he was on his way to be in a big action. He was action star. Yeah.

I mean, of course, giant guy. Yeah. And some good looking guy. Great body. Perfect for an action star.

Yeah. And then just he tried to like it when a guy realizes, like, this is, you know, life's over. He didn't want to raise the kids in hell. Also, he's like, you don't want to, you don't want it.

You don't want it. What you think that life is, it's not. Listen. - I've done five movies and you've done, I don't know how many, and look, I don't wanna sit around all day long

and go in and deliver one line. - Exactly. - And here's the other thing, I'm not ever gonna be a leading man.

I'm always gonna be Terry Bretcheau.

- Right, right. - And that just sucks. (laughing) Seriously. - You always wanna be Joe Rogan. (laughing)

- No, no. - No, you would like to be giving them opportunity to really act. - Well, if I actually wanted to act. - Well, yeah, but. - But I mean, some people, they just don't like to do it.

“And I think with how we, it was probably one of those things”

where they probably offered them a bunch of money. It looks good on paper, and then you start actually doing it and you realize like, you gotta be away for five months film and they do it. - He was away all year or one year,

doing a fire storm, and he was filming a Vancouver. He was flying in on Saturday from Vancouver and leaving on a red eye to Vancouver and filming all week. And I think-- - Brexit down.

- Three little kids? - Yeah, it breaks it down. - Yeah, it's not good for you, you don't like it. - It doesn't feel good. - And I applaud him for that.

And he's not only is he a great husband, great dad, he's a great grandfather. I'm a terrible grandfather. - You got a grand kid? - No, they're quite terrible.

And I'm gone all the time. And it's kind of like getting that job. - Yeah. - I gotta have a job. - Well, if you have to travel,

you were saying that you'd give corporate speeches like what do you do, like what are those about? - Species. - Like what do you speak about? - Well, I'm talking to a bank Wednesday morning.

So I'm preparing a bank speech. - And then what do you say to like, what do you say to a bank, to a bunch of bankers? - I know what, I know. - Is it about leadership, what do you say?

- I know. - Yeah, some of it's about leadership.

It's about, it's basically all the things

that I know Joe have to do with ambition, dreams, drive, goals, failure, overcoming failure, how to deal with failure, how to rise, how to deal with success, how to treat people. So it's a little bit of motivational,

a little bit of psychology, like you used early with me.

- You know, you know, when you did it.

(laughing)

“- You know, right, hey, running, running, running.”

He knows. (laughing) - And so, I'll build up for different kinds of relations. - Yeah. - So it's like kind of like a team building thing,

they get together and you think what they want? - Interesting. - When did you start doing that? - I've been doing it 43 years. - Really?

- Wow. - I know, it's amazing. - That's crazy. - And how did you get into that?

- I gave a speech in Destin, Florida, for free to lay.

And it was taped, and they paid me $5,000. And I was doing speeches for $12850,000. And they all have made $5,000, $5,000 in bucks. Are you kidding me? Now go down there, it's in just for free to lay.

So I build this speech up, and that, that, that, that, that. And I go give this speech in the speeches really good. And they taped it and they sent me a VHS copy. And my then wife put it on one day and the, oh my God, this is really good and it's funny and so.

So she found out where the bureaus were, who books, beakers, they were 10 really good ones. And she sent this tape and a bio to 10 different, speaking to associations. All right?

We got that through friend Tarkin and his company in Atlanta, Georgia. They're the ones that turned his own to it. So I come in and she says, I sent this off, I'm getting calls now for speeches.

What? She says, yeah, she says, we got, you want to do this, you want to do that, and all of them were for $5,000. $5,000, are you shitting me? I'm getting five grand, five grand, I'm like, oh my God,

five grand, really. I'm like, amazing. So I start doing these speeches for all these different bureaus for five grand. Wow.

So I go to a wide on vacation and I'm in a wide and a company called Washington Speakers Bureau, WSB, they speak enough, they book political speakers and they had Joe Thaisman and Jim Falvano and maybe Lou Holt, that's the three guys they had.

So they call it the rainy day file and they got a big box where they get all the, you know, people send them to them all the time. Hey, Joe, we don't come on show. Okay, right, put it over there, put it over there, put it over there.

“And eventually you go to, oh, we oughta have them on, right?”

That's kind of how it went. So one day they're looking at these tapes and they're gonna know, spit, spit, spit, spit, then you get the came across Terry Bratchau. Hey, hey, here's this guy's pretty good.

Really, we'll put it on, they put it on and we'll sign him. So I'm in a wide, I got a phone call in the morning. Hello, this Bernie Swing with Washington Speakers Bureau. I'm here with Harry Rhodes. We just looked at your tape, we think you got great possibilities.

We'd love to represent you exclusively. We've got it out of, please call us back. How's that? What? So, you know, it's wise, what seven in the morning?

So it's why it's one o'clock there times, I call him. And then he said, look, we think you got great possibility. And we think you can, we can book you and book you a lot. And I said, well, I'm being booked by 10 people right now. Why do I want to go one, one person?

Well, we're going to guarantee you 50 speeches as $7,500 to speech. Excuse me, did you say $7,500? $100? I'm like, holy cow, so they said, we'll fly you from Hawaii to Washington D.C. And we'd like to sit down with you and go over a proposal.

So I did, they did, and I did. We sat out, fell in love with these guys, they were awesome, gave me a proposal. 50 speeches, $7,500, and that up, that's pretty good, that's pretty good chunk of dough. So I signed, I'm with them exclusively now, and they say, we'll have you at 10,000 in six months.

“10, you're going to book me for 10 grand, are you kidding me?”

That ain't, that's crazy. Sure enough. So that's how you got in the speeches. Yeah. So when you do speeches like say of like a tire company, college, whatever it is, do you write

it out for that?

I never write a, I do not write a word.

I cannot write, I write here, so how do you plan out a speech? I write here. You just sit around and think about what you're going to say. Exactly. And over time, what speakers do, 'cause I ask Jay Leno this one time, are you doing all

it, I don't change anything under the name where I'm going.

So 100 of it. Oh, so I don't have to change all of this every time. And I learned that from Jay Leno, takes the same thing, then put tire company in there, and build it around that. And what else I started doing, I started reading a lot, psychology, salesmanship, leadership.

“You know, one of the guys I, that came to hear me speak here in Austin?”

Like Raven, Admiral McRaven. Do you had him on yet? No. Oh, my God. The guy that gives the 10 points of success?

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

See the head of the, uh, he's an amazing fat, the, um, Osama bin Laden, he, that's his, that's his

raid. The whole thing was him. He designed that whole raid, um, amazing human being. He's right here in your backyard, you haven't had him. You ought to be ashamed of yourself, Joe.

Only so many days in a week you could do shows, you know, can I have everybody on? Okay, man. Do you do a show every day? Four days a week. Okay.

What's the day off? Usually Friday. But it shifts. Yeah. It shifts, depending on, you know, what I got going on.

But, you know, so I, I, um, I build a show according to what they're doing, and through

“all my reading, um, and I'm naturally, I think I'm gifted enough humor-wise.”

That I'm incorporated a ton of humor, and I'm mixed the humor in, and I'm, and I incorporate the audience. And so did you start doing all this reading just to make your speeches better? I wanted to get smarter. Ha, that's good.

I wanted to get smarter. I wanted to be, yeah, I wanted to be a little bit up on things. You know, it took that college in marketing and all that in college. But I, I thought, hey, if I'm going to make a career as this, get all the, gather all the knowledge you can gather.

Yeah. And so that's what I did. So I started reading all these self-health books, and you know what, when you do read all that, you find out it's pretty basic. There's a common, there's a foundation, a common denominator that all of them have.

“And it's, I don't steal, I don't steal material, but I do steal, I do program my speeches.”

I've gone on stage and forgot the name of the company. I did that once, I did that once. I went on stage in Vegas for a huge 5,000 people and I went out there and I'm, you know, I've got a style about me, it's a freelance, it's hey, I worked the crowd, I get to know them.

I'm having a good time feeling good and I haven't even started my speech in the, the meeting plan to the guy that, I don't know, can that, let's give it up, give it up. Very Bradshaw, turn to take you Terry, thank you so much, Terry Bradshaw, they escort me off. I didn't min it, 10 minutes, 10 minutes, so if there's 3, there's what happened.

Why did this escort you all, he, he thought I didn't, he thought I didn't know what I was doing, I guess, but that, he obviously didn't look at my tapes, but I was just, I was just having a film with the crowd before I was, you know, I worked my, sometimes I, sometimes I'll go right into it, sometimes I won't, sometimes I'll, hey, you know, I mess with them, right?

I'm just, having fun, yeah, yeah, he, out of there, wow, I'm very, what kind of company was that, someone that could afford to pay me not had me give a speech, yeah, bad, well, some people are very impatient, you know, bad, they was bad, I asked my wife in the car going to the airport, you know, when you, when I said, what's right, and I said, what are I do, something wrong, she said, you did nothing wrong, this guy just doesn't know

your style. So they just hired you based on name alone, I didn't know what they were getting. Excuse me, I would imagine that for, I would think, name alone has a lot to do with all my, you know, 100%, but that was, and you know what, and if you went for super balls, you know, pressure, you know, up and down, you know, how to deal with, you get

in the huddle, how do you manage a huddle, how do you do it, how do you call plays, and how make fun of all these guys that have placards on their forearm, big number four,

look, number four, where I had to go, second and eight, okay, look, second and eight, we're

here with that just, let's go, let's go, let's go, the, the, the, the, the, and they're, no, no, no, wait a minute, wait, no, no, no, I don't want to run that, let's go this and this is it, I'm totally running, I totally ran the huddle, the whole thing, what do you all say, can we do that, no, we can't, what do you want to do, that, I ran the huddle, I was smart enough as the chairman of the board in the huddle to say, I don't

to try this play, but where do you all think, and I got the input, oh, is there anything

better than input, is there anything better than the people that are doing, as a, as a, as a sales team, you got a sales manager, and sales team is going back, said, no, no, no, no, this is not a good, this isn't working, they don't like this data, and you change smart

“people, make adjustments in the middle of chaos, right, competition, and that's how, that's”

how I ran, I ran the, the huddle, and speaking, speaking is, I know where I'm going when

I walk on stage, and once I get on stage, I can tail within five minutes, I'm going

to change my direction, and I can't be doing to 40 something years, I got, you know, eight hours of material, not to mention all the new material I'm getting every week, so I can change it, and I got to tell you, your stand up comedian, is there anything better than getting on stage and deliver performance, and they are just laughing to everything, just rolling, just rolling, just rolling, and you walk off in your scream, and Joe, Joe, Joe, you're like,

“God, man, I nailed it tonight, and then you walk off, or going out and go, hey, hey, hey, I did, here's the, the other day, well, I did, and everything falls flat, and when you leave, and you go off stage and you're, are you not miserable? miserable?”

Sure. You don't want to be miserable. No. You did everything you could to make him enjoyable. I'm entertaining them. I want this to be a great experience for them. And when you fail, it's devastating. Devastating. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you want to pay it. Well, you think to pay it to be an entertaining. I think it. Yeah. Yeah. Poor Jenny. Poor. Oh, Jamie. Sorry, Jamie. I was sorry, man. Yeah. I mean, I would imagine that it's a completely different thing. But I'm not going to guy like you go and talk to a corporation. It's got to be very fun for them.

You know, because, you know, your guy was one of the Super Bowl. Yeah. I was like, my speeches. My speeches are, you know, who Joe hosting is? Another name. He's the preacher in Joe Austin. Oh, what do I say? The whole thing like the cow. Old thing. You're right. Old thing. Old thing. Right. He didn't go to church. He didn't know. It's old thing. Yeah. That guy. He's a, he does the giant. Yeah. Still the tall preacher. Yeah. God, look at the mountain. See the mountain. But my rose Royce. One of those good guys, you know, it's a good guy. And people need that in their life.

Uh-huh. I like to say, yes, yes. There's another mountain out there. But if you continue down the path you're going, and I'm more, I want, I want my hand spanked. You know, I don't need it spanked. I know it should be spanked. But I want him to spank. If fine with me, speaking, when I go out to speak, I'm a feel good. I want, I'm a feel good guy. You know, unless they say to me, here's where we're struggling and we need you to add this, this, this, this.

Also, sometimes they'll give you a direction. Oh, always give you a direction. Oh, always give you a direction.

Okay, so that would be a purpose. You always know where you're going. Yeah. You always know what your audience is. Yeah. Well, sounds like you really enjoy it. But that's love. Is that what you're doing when you're doing 250 dates a year? Yeah, a lot of those. Oh, I do. Yeah, a lot of Tuesday, Wednesday of this week. Then I'll get off. I do 30 a year, which is planning. That's a lot. Yeah, that's a lot. When you're getting five million in the speech, I mean, you got to think about it. We think buck. Oh, buck's over there.

He's like, how do these so glad this boy's off? He likes you. Terry, thank you very much for being here, man. This is a lot of fun. I really enjoyed it. It's great to talk to you. Me too. I'm, uh, thank you. Thanks, Joe. Been watching you enjoy your smart. Thank you. You're insightful. You do your homework. I helped you today, though. You did help me a lot. Yeah. Dude, what you do is not easy. I found out about limousine cattle. Yeah, taught me some things.

“I know. I know. Yeah. You know how to fix a pear-lapped futurist? What's that?”

Show him, Jamie. I'd rather not. Um, so tell everybody how they buy this whiskey. Is it everywhere? Yeah. Is it everywhere? 11 states. Right now, you can go Terry, Bradshaw. Um, bourbon.com. You'll find out where we are in tech. Terry, Bradshaw, bourbon. There it is. There it is. That's not a good pitch. I should have had it. Oh, look at the cigars. Solid picture. Yes, cigar. That's an old man. Your 58? Yeah. And look at that. You got a serious whiskey sifter there.

That's like with your serious taste. You know, it is, the thing about, now people think,

boy, he's making a killing off the whiskey. I'm not making. I may make $6,000 this year. Six. But we're building it. We're building it. It's slow whiskey. Bourbon is slow, man. It's has to eat. You go down that aisle. Yeah. Five thousand. And we've won all these awards. All we beat them all. Congratulations. Thank you. I'm so proud of that. And the thing about the juices mine.

“I created this. It has to be something that you love doing. That's not something unique. You know what?”

It could be, it could be any other product. I think it's just a fact that I get to go out and sell it.

Well, it's an age product. It's a different. Like if you were selling vodka or tequila, something you could just make real quick. No, this is, it's a different thing. Ageed whisky is a very different thing. I took me a year and a half to get the blend right. The blend, the juice. Take me a year and a half before I agreed to put it in a bottle. Then when I put it in a bottle, I wanted, this is a low, low-gun smoke, set it on the count.

I wanted a gun smoke bottle. And this is the original label. And that's gunpowder. Gunpowder gray.

And the Super Bowl stuff is put on there by, you know, the bottling company, which I didn't really, that wasn't part of it.

“It's you know, Joe, you ever got to a point in your life when you go, "Can I not sell something that's really good without having to beat me?"”

Right. And it would mean the way it would have been knocked out of a hand-to-be in you, Terry. Right. Can it not, can it not be just because it's good? You certainly could do that. Yeah. My stout horse is, I have to best stout horses in America. You know, best.

And there brings world champions. And I'm so proud of that. And if your business is good, you know, but I don't have to sell them. Right. We have all spring. But this is Bradshaw whiskey. This is this.

I wouldn't want my dad to see it. But there it is. There it is. There it is. All right, Terry.

Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you for the fan for many years. Thank you.

“And we didn't get into politics because I'm very thankful.”

I'm glad to. Yeah, me too. I bet you are. I know I am. Enough.

Enough of that in this world. Thank you, Terry. That was fun. All right, bye everybody.