JRE MMA Show #180 with Daniel Rodriguez

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[MUSIC] >> D-rock, free, yes, free. >> What a fucking crazy story. So let's fill people in. So you were a top contender in the UFC's Walterweight Division,

and then somehow another you want to get arrested in Mexico. >> Yeah, man, right after the Kevin Hall in fight actually, I was, I was celebrating, I was over in San Diego, I had some drinks, and decided, you know what, let's go to T-J.

>> Seems like you know, always a phrase that--

>> Yeah, it's for granted. >> When that was T-J go to drinking, you could walk there. >> Yeah, yeah, literally, so decided to go to T-J for the night, you know, go celebrate my win, and I was obviously in celebration mode.

And I had to ounce a weed in the car, you know, and I've been across a border a hundred times,

“bro, I've never had no issues, never had no problems,”

never got stopped pulled over. Last thing I would even think is that-- >> I thought we was legal in Mexico. >> I thought, I thought so too, like here-- >> Right, right everything's decriminalized down there, apparently not, man.

But the laws are like crazy, crazy strict over there, you know, and I've been in situations before where I could just offer some money

and get out to situations, you know, like 500 bucks at the most, you know,

and they'll just let me on my way, but got pulled over at the border and the border inspection found the weed in my backpack. And I was thinking, I wasn't going to be in that situation where I could bribe my way out of it, because it's Mexico I've been there before, and I've been in these situations.

And now, man, I thought, you know, they took me to jail that night, and I was thinking, all right, I'm just going to be here for the weekend, I'll get out Monday, you know, go to court, and they're like, no, I will see you in a month, I'm like a month. You know, like, why is this just weed, you know what I mean?

And yeah, eight months later, holy shit. Yeah, Jimmy, can you please look up what the laws are in Mexico from marijuana, because man, I was reading something just a few years ago, how they, here it goes, marijuana is decriminalized for personal, recreational use in Mexico, but there's no legal, commercial market,

and buying it or selling it remains illegal for tourists and visitors,

possession is strictly prohibited. Wait, what the hell? It's tourists and visitors. So for everybody else, you would be good. Like if you were a Mexican resident, you would have been good.

It looks like according to this. Personal limits can possess up to five grams, and up to 28 grams is decriminalized. How many grams are in a, oh, that's one ounce, 28? Yeah, so it was a, it was approximately 28 grams.

“So approximately you should have been decriminalized,”

but the thing is, I think it's if you live there. The border, transporting marijuana, including edibles and constructs across the US Mexico border, is either, in either direction, is a serious federal offense.

US customs and border protection strictly enforces federal laws prohibiting the import export of cannabis. But wait a minute, that's US, but what about Mexico? You got arrested by Mexican police, right? Yeah, I got arrested on that.

Either direction, wow, but I feel like if you got arrested by Mexico. Anyway, tourists, while small possessions, technically decriminalized for Mexican residents, the Mexican government explicitly prohibits tourists from possessing or consuming drugs,

and you could face serious jail time. So that's crazy. People would go over there going, hey, no worries. I'm in Mexico, it's decriminalized here, but not for a fucking tourist do.

They were trying to give me six years, bro. Oh my God, six years, oh my God. We had to do all kinds of stuff from me to get out, it was like, did the UFC end getting involved? Hunter did my management, did reach out to Hunter,

and they couldn't do anything. I got that. The reason why I didn't buy you who could get little, little, little, little. We'll get into that, we'll get into that. Because I'm out, you know, and so I learned real quick

how corrupt the system is over there. Everybody's trying to get, trying to get paid. And the reason why that I was in there so long is, I guess, at the time where I got arrested, the whole judicial system was going through an election

at the time. So it was new judges, so all the judges that were like taking bride and stuff before, they had all got, they switched off the judges.

we just got here, we're not trying to take no,

“we're trying to play it by the book and get comfortable.”

So I was supposed to get released in December. And I guess I don't even know if I could even really get in trouble. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't get in trouble. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If it's any of these super crates, it's very corrupt. It's very corrupt in there. But, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's crazy, do like, even being in there.

So my whole experience, my whole experience, and there was like, so crazy. How old do you speak Spanish? I'm, I'm, I'm an expert now. I'm like fluent fluently because of that experience.

So before I had already been, obviously, I already know Spanish, but being in there, it's like became fluent. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but thank God you could speak it. Yeah, I got arrested in my scar. I'd be fucked.

Yeah, so when I first got there, when I went to court

the first time, one of the guards recognized me. And he's like, you know what I mean, handcuffs. And he's like, you know, I get a picture. I'm like, what's, what? What?

I'm so, I'm like, they're taking pictures with their dogs. They're so surreal. Yeah, do it. You're fucking, you can top UFC, contender. Incuffs in jail, the fucking guard,

what to take a picture with you while I'm in handcuffs. And the other inmates were like,

“I was looking around like, what the fuck, who is this guy?”

You know, 'cause like, the guard was like, yo, this is such and such, you know? So as we're getting transported to the jail, which was the worst, I mean, I didn't jail before. I was like, from the age of 15, like 23,

I was constantly in and out of jail, you know, from LA, you know, I was, you know, gang member and, you know, living in the hood. And this time around was a whole different experience. One, I'm in a foreign country.

And so I get there and they put us like in the, in the processing area, in the processing areas, like, probably about this, this big and like, 20 dudes in there, all sleeping on the floor, two dudes per bunk, three, three on a three bunk,

three levels of bunk and I was there for like the first,

like the first 10 days, and it was hell, bro. It was the worst, like, I had, I don't know, what kind of bugs that was in there, but they were like, biting up my whole body. I had like, like, just, just buy it.

I don't know what it was, dude. It was like, I don't know, probably, something like that. Yeah, probably, probably bad bugs or something. And, do you have food spells on my style? Now it's the midfielder, mid-Jubel, and so on with games.

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Right when I have first got there, one of the inmates

that seen the guards taking pictures of him was like, we were right there, conversation the whole time, and he had just got released from there, but he had it five years. He was out for like two weeks, got arrested with the gun,

and then came back. So, he was like, hey, I'm trying to get you out of here. And over there, the guards had tried to charge me seven grand, bro, to get me out of that cell, and to move me into a better place,

'cause over there, if you got some money, you'll be all right. You know, and so right before that happened, the dude that was like, you know, I'm gonna come back for you, both of you worry about it. - So, how does this work?

Does the guard come up to you and go, hey, I can get you in a cell, put it across you 7,000? - Yeah. - They come up to you and tell you that? - Yeah.

- So, the dude that I got to the prison with, he comes back down, and he's like, hey, he's like, the guards came, they pull me out, and they bring me to a whole different, like, section of the prison, third floor and second building,

and I go up there, and I'm escorted by the guards, and there's like a curtain covering like the tear. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Like, why is there a curtain? And I get in there, and they pull me to this dude,

and it's dude's like, oh, you have to see a fighter?

you know, like a cartel leader, and he's like,

“he's like, oh, he's like, I wanna just show you around”

a little bit, let you know how, we're running things over here, you know? It's kind of just gave me the run down, and this dude had it made, you know? I get there and just TV's in the fucking cell.

Dude has a play station. He has like a whole bunch of, just all the amenities you can think of, you know, he's like, yeah, he's like, show me around and shit, kind of, kind of showing me off and I, hey, hey, guys, look,

look, this guy, this guy, this guy, you know, is UFC fighter, you know, and I'm like, all right, you know, what's going on here, you know? And, you know, 'cause it's jailed, all you know? I'm like, if anything happens,

I'm fucking use all my experience to survive this motherfucker. - Right, right.

- And so he's like, just pretty much give me the run down,

he's like, yo, he's like, I run in here, this is like, pretty much, you know, our, our, this is our home, you know? So that dude was facing some charges, he got released, and he was facing some charges,

him and his like 13 dudes, he got arrested with his whole crew, him and 13 dudes were all on that tier. So he had all his whole, his whole squad with them, and they had got arrested for dressing up as,

like, government officials or like military dudes, and they would go like, raid dope houses and, and, and take their drugs, whatever. So they had got it all arrested for that, and they were facing some serious time.

And, and I'm, I'm over here like two, I just got arrested for fucking ounce of weed, gross, it's crazy, he's like, oh, no, you'll be out soon,

don't you worry about it?

But if you want, we could get you, we didn't get you like accommodated and you could come up here with us, you know, like you'd be my sell man or whatever, you could be wherever you want.

And I'm like, all right, he's like, yeah, but it's gonna cost you a little bit of money.

“I'm like, oh, yeah, how much is like 3,000 owns it?”

And I looked at the guard, the guard was trying to charge me seven, I was like, he said seven is like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, he's trying to get more extra money out of you like, but you do gotta like, pay to get up here, and like, kind of like, pay rent a little bit, you know,

to the guards. So I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm like, all right, cool. So immediately, I was like, yeah, let's do it. So they give us a brand new, like Nike tracksuit.

Oh, shit. Yeah, I don't know, he's like, oh, he's like, we'll come up here more. So I get there, I get there and then he's like, yeah, I just be my sell man, so I pretty much ended up

being like this guy's like, I end up getting the feeling like, I was like his protection kind of like, or like, you know, like when we go to yard, I just be like, hey, walk on me like, and I'll kind of like, just, I got the impression,

like, like, all right, I'm hit sell mate, you know, like I got this guy's back, you know. He got my bad, I got his, and I really trust him, you know, and that's one hard thing to do in jail, but like he catch vibes, all people will easy, you know,

and, and he had to, it was just a crazy ass experience, dude. I ended up, we ended up working out with the, working it out with the, with the guards to get me some fucking boxing gloves, dude. I ended up getting some boxing gloves in there,

some myths, and it just so happened that the dude that I was sell mates with, he had a little bit of boxing experience. So he had been a boxer before, so I was like, oh, perfect, you know, and he actually knew how to hold

pads and stuff, so, so I ended up spending this whole time. - I'm like, so many didn't spar 'em, you know. - No, you wanted to, no, no, no, no, no, no. - That's how it goes south. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

- I'm glad you're smart. (laughing) - You know what I'm saying? - He wanted to say boxing gloves. I'm like, oh, please tell me this doesn't end the way

I think it ends. - No, no, yeah, yeah. We ended up, we ended up actually been really cool, and yeah, dude, I ended up pretty much spending this whole time, like in a boxing fight camp, you know. - Oh, wow.

“- Yeah, I remember I even made, like a make shift double hand bag.”

When I did, I got balled up, like a bunch of plastic bags, like really like, like made real tight, and like, so it's like hard to do it in a sock. I was able to buy from the guards, like bungee cord. - Yeah, bungee cord, and then set that up.

- Oh, nice. - Yeah, and I made a heavy bag, 'cause they had like this big gallons of water, and I got the gallon of water, and I wrapped it with, like, the mat from the bed.

So I was like, and I just threw it in the bag, and we had like a pull-up bar in our cell, and I made a heavy bag out of that, and then whenever we go to yard,

and I was just trying to do everything

I could do to try and stay in shape, man, and it was just time went on, it's time went on, it's time went on. And we kind of food did they get you in his cell. - It's all junk food, dude.

- Still? - Yeah. - Yeah, it was all junk food, like chips, noodles, damn. So the, you know, water, condiments. - So no protein.

- None, none, none, none whatsoever. And I didn't think about that part, you know, because I was working out like crazy, and I was getting shredded, but as time went on, my mother, like, like, when I got out,

I was skinny as hell, bro. I was skinny as hell, and the only source of protein would probably be soy. - Jesus Christ. - Yeah, so they'll give it like,

“couldn't you bribe someone to bring in some fucking meat?”

- If you're the cartel.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, that's the thing,

like, it was crazy, like, so towards the end, towards like the final end of it, I guess the garbage started cracking down on like a lot of the stuff that was going on. So we started to lose a lot of those amenities

that we were getting in the beginning. And I was just, you know, when I got out, I was just malnourished as hell, bro. I saw you a picture later, like, what I looked like when I got out,

completely different person. How much weight did you lose? I didn't really lose that much weight, but it was just like more my muscles. We're just, who are you thinking about going to 55?

We were like, "Damn, I'mma be able to make 55." (laughing) - I made one 55, one 55, one time I did. - Dude, you made 55 the most mental health. - Yeah, it was, it was the worst fight camp ever.

It was all based on losing the weight as well.

And then I was just, so, I remember after that,

“I made 155, I didn't wanna go to the gym”

for like a month, bro, I was like, dude, I need to, this, this, my body was just done, bro. - Yeah, you're killing your body. - Yeah. - What is this?

- Oh, yeah, that's some of the workouts. I was doing while I was in prison. - But no protein unfortunately. - Yeah, but no protein. So, I was getting pretty shredded, like,

and that, like period and time, that was when we had like a lot of, like, we had food and everything was cool. And if you notice, oh, look at that, the double end bag. That's nice, dude.

- Yeah, dude. - And then you can see the TV in the back, right? - On the, with the PlayStation, but, I mean, it wasn't, dude, you're looking good. - Yeah.

- Tighten those hands up, nice, I bet. - Yeah. - Yeah, man, it's just like a whole experience. And it was crazy, because this guy, he'd be like, you know, the guards were coming in, but, hey,

leave my door open, yeah. And the guards will actually leave this door open. So, we were able to like walk around the tier and go talk to other people, like, me, I kept to myself a lot. Like, I've been in jail like a ton of time before.

And I learned, I learned easily that, you know, you'll go along, you'll get by if you just mind your own business and not getting involved in shit, and not getting involved in things. So, like, I would just stick to myself, you know,

and just, you know, just get my workout on and avoid trouble. Avoid trouble, you know? But it was crazy to see firsthand how the cartel operates and it's crazy, man.

They got their hands in everything over there. - Of course. - Everything. - You know, there was 37 assassinations in Mexico last election, 37.

- Yeah. - Different political people, and I was talking to Ed Calderon, do you know who he is? - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah.

- He's an Ed Manifesto on Instagram. He was used to work for the Mexican government, and then he became an American citizen, and he was involved with prosecuting the cartel, going after them, and stuff like that.

- And he was essentially saying that. Like the entire judicial system, all the mayors, everyone, if they get in, their cartel members. Like no one gets in, no one is a mayor, unless they're in the cartel.

And when they're getting assassinated, it's cartel assassinations. It's one cartel, you know, wants their guy in, and another cartel wants their guy in, and they just shoot the other dude.

- Yeah. - 37. - Yes, that was in America. The last, like the midterms. Imagine during the primary of 37 people

got assassinated.

“We'd be like, what the fuck has happened to America?”

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a hitman who was actually a hitman. And he was in there, he was like, yeah, I've killed like 30 cops in my whole experience. And he was in there for, and they were just like telling me about all these things

that I'm not doing, like everybody is involved in this. It's crazy, you know? And over here, like if you kill a fucking cop, they're like, they're coming after you. But over there, you know,

I guess it's just another thing. - Killing cops are lower tier than the cartel. - That's what it is. - Yeah. - The cartel have more money, more power, more influence.

- Yeah. - And it's crazy how like murders just, they're not even that big of a deal over there. You know, a while I was in there, I was reading or I saw that Mexico

has the Guinness World record for missing persons. - Holy shit. - Yeah, yeah, and those crazy, there's so many like, there was so many hitmen in there, it was crazy. But, you know, I didn't get no shit from nobody.

You know, everybody was like cool as hell. - Well, that's awesome. - Well, you're an easy to get along with, dude. - Yeah, yeah. - Luckily.

“- Yeah, that's how you ask you to train them.”

- Actually, dude, there's some dogs in there, man. - I bet. - There's just one guy in part take around my dude. You got a fucking start fighting, you know, like, and he's like, he was one of the military dudes,

and he's just a little fucking machine dude. And in the time that I was there, he got really good, really quick, you know, and I'm like, dude, you got to, like, go to the gym down in TJ, that interim gym.

I had mentioned, like, you know, even when I got released, that, man, we did a whole lot of things to try to get me out, man, there's a ton of fighters even try to pull some strings from me, like, Yaya Rodriguez, you know, Brandon Moreno,

he's from TJ, and nobody, nobody to help me out, man. Everybody try to pull strings from me, and nobody came up with a number. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Eventually.

- What was, how was, was the number? - Can you tell? - I want you to get in trouble. - Nah, no, don't get in trouble. - Yeah, but it was, it was hefty.

- It was, I bet. - It was not cheap. - I bet. - It was not cheap at all. - I bet. - You know, everybody wants to get paid. - Yeah, yeah, it was crazy, crazy experience, dude. And to get out of jail, you know,

and then now I have this fight, headlighting, headlighting,

USC Serbia, first time in Serbia,

fight in your osmetic. - When is that fight? - August 1st. - Nice. - Yeah, to get out of, to go through all that, and then to have this opportunity is just crazy.

And to be here, to be here is just crazy, man, 'cause I didn't think I was gonna get out. I wasn't sure if I was gonna get out, man. I thought it was a good reason. A lot of people don't, yeah.

- Yeah. - Yeah. - The United States Protestant System is fucked too, but nothing like Mexico's. - Everybody that I've talked to, that is in any experience in Mexican jail,

and they're like, dude, it's not good. - Yeah, no, man. - Yeah, it was crazy, man. - I just can't believe the cartel can't sneak me in. - We did sometimes.

- Yeah, sometimes. - Yeah, we did sometimes. - We had, they would bring those groceries, bro. - Oh, really? - Yeah.

- Because that's the first thing that I would want, man.

“I would like, look, what do we got to do these guards?”

What kind of car do you drive dog? (laughing) - Great, that motherfucker. We got to do something, I can't be noodles. - Yeah, man, especially as hard as you work out.

- Yeah, I was working out like two, three hard workouts a day, you know, I'll do, so I'm kind of programmed to just work out. You know, I think from my prior jail experiences before, the only positive thing that I think that helped me and that whole everything that I've been through is like,

when you're in jail, like, I personally, I'm like, I would think like, dude,

You want to, like, that's my whole reason for staying in shape. You know, when I started doing MMA, it was just to be able to defend myself, you know, in situations like, if I ever did go to jail,

“you know, and the only thing that I positive”

that I took from that is like, when I got, when I would get released from prison, prior, I just want to work out. I'm already programmed to just work out all day, you know, so once I found it, I'm inmate, I was like,

oh, this is perfect, you know.

And, and, how old were you first started training?

- 25. - Wow. - Yeah, first. - That's great. - Very, yeah, dude. - You started to, USC contenders, that's very impressive. You know, a lot of guys started to live.

Did you have any sports experience before that? - None, bro. - Nothing, none. - That's crazy. - None, but I had, I had been in no bullshit, though. I had been in probably around 200 street fights.

Already, including all my jail experience. You know, when I was in juvenile hall, I was a straight knucklehead, bro. I was fighting like every other day. And it was just, it became just fun.

Just fun, like if like, you were like a tough looking dude, it was like, hey, what's up, man? I wanna scrap or what, bro? Like, you know, I was just like, why? 'Cause you're big, bro, I just wanna fight you.

- Yeah. (laughs) - Yeah. - And with no training? You had no training at all? - No, no training, man. Just just, just wanting to learn how to fight,

you just wanna fight. - By fighting. - Yeah. - Yeah, so it's a crazy way to learn. - Yeah, dude. Just, and like, dude, you can't, I imagine getting a fight with your soul mate.

I got some crazy shit. - That's crazy shit. - Yeah. - You gotta sleep together. It's the people one I open, bro. Like, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, so that's the only experience

I had prior to starting MMA.

“And then, I remember, I stopped going to jail”

and I was like 23. And I stopped going to jail. I started having kids, and I'm like, all right. I gotta stop gangbanging, man, because I used to think going to jail was cool.

I used to think it was cool, because you get out and you just have like, little more respect. Like, I thought, I thought it was cool. I thought like, like, all going to jail

makes you a badass, you know. But once I started having kids, I realized like, all right, I gotta take care of. I got human beings out of looking. I got to take care of and raise, you know.

So, I started looking for every any possible way to try to live a decent life. And I tried to try to everything. I've had every job you could think of. And, but I've even had a good job before.

And I've lost them, you know. By just being on local head and going back to jail. And I remember, I got out of prison one time. And my cousin hits me up and he's like, yo, kind of my house broke.

We're gonna watch some fights and barbecue and stuff all that, oh yeah, dope. I was like, who's fighting? He's like, some dude rampage. I'm like, who the fuck's rampage?

So, I get there and that's when four is Griffin, how to fight, rampage one that I had the way to title him. And I'm like, yo, this is amazing, bro. And then I found the love with Chuck LaDelle. And I'm like, dude, this, he's just like me, bro.

He's like knocking dudes out, yo. And I just obsessed with it. I just obsessed with it. So, that was your first exposure to MMA? I had seen it before.

Like when it was tank, Abbott, early days.

Yeah, in the early days, but it never caught my attention,

like, because I had always been a boxing family. Huge boxing fan. And I grew up watching boxing, like all, like, majority of my family functions growing up. They were all boxing events, like Oscar de la Hoya,

my Tyson, my Pac y'all, like me, whether. And, and I was just, I loved boxing, you know.

“And I remember, I mean, I did have a little bit”

of experience before going into MMA because when I lived in the hood, I would always have boxing gloves. And I would always make my homies fight each other. Like when we're all, hey, you go, hey, you go to him.

Because like, you know, we're all boys. And I want them to like, I always wanted them to, to, to, like, any case. In case anything happened to the case wherever all that, when we get in the rumble with somebody or anything like that,

like, try to make my homies more tougher. You know, 'cause like, hey, you guys gotta have my back at that yours. And that's just, that's just something we just did, you know. Or like, well, we'll just go body shots, body punches, you know.

Right? And just fight each other. So that's kind of my background, bro, to be honest with you. And, and yeah, man, I just, I just, I just carried that

into into the gym when I first went.

It's called, it was called tap out in downtown LA. Okay.

“At the time, I think that's, I was trained with Eddie Bravo.”

And he had moved in 10 plus. So that's when I first started, I wanted to do box. And I remember the tap out, Jim, very well. Yeah, yeah, that was great, Jim. Yeah.

And I remember when I first started going there, I was working construction. I was working on a, on a high rise in downtown LA. And, and I would pass by every day. I was like, man, I wanna go in there.

You know, but I never, like, would go in there.

I was just passed by and I'll get home and talk to my baby mom. Man, there's this gym called tap out, I really want to go, you know. She's like, oh yeah, but I was talking about all the time. But I never had like, I don't know, you know, there's a kind of nervous, there's kind of nervous going walking into a gym for the first time.

And you know, like, what to expect, or, but I was just a fan. And so I walked, actually, the way I got started was it was our anniversary. But as a gift, she gave me a gym membership. And then I went to the gym and the coaches were like, yo dude, like, who is this guy? But when I first went in there, I was like, so raw and just so like street fighting experience,

but I had power, I had some power and, you know, I just fell in love with it. And the coaches were like, even the days, I wanna show up because I'm gonna be getting enough of it, I was still like, still had that knucklehead mentality, I was still be out, partying with my friends, I'm not show up to the gym and the coaches were actually calling me like, yo work, where are you at?

“You shouldn't need to be in the gym, you need to be training.”

So I guess what would help me in the beginning was, actually, my coaches like really noticing that I had, like, a talent, you know, I had potential. And I just obsessed with the amount of feeling of love with the whole training experience. And, and I remember my first time trying Jitsu, it was a skinny, fucking skinny, dorky looking dudes like, hey, you need to, you need to come and train Jitsu man, come and train Jitsu

man, come and train Jitsu. I was like, nah. 'Cause I remember right before watching, you know, I was like, oh man, I'm wrestling is gay. Dude, wrestling is gay, I don't know what I'm trying to watch that, you know? And then, obviously, like, you go through that experience, I'm like, all right, so the skinny

dudes like, come on man, just try it on, but you can't, you know, but you know, I could make you tap out of like, nah, nah, nah, I went, strangled me, you know, I'm like, oh hell, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, I hate losing bro, so I was like, and there's two different kinds of people, there's people that will get their ass whip and it's like, nah, I say for

me, or, um, they get your ass whip me like, oh, I don't never want that to happen again.

You know, so I would show up every day determine like one day I'm on a one day I'm a win, one day I'm gonna win, one day I'm gonna get him, and that honestly kept me, kept me in the game, you know? It's amazing how little tiny dudes can fuck you up. Dude, that's the last thing I expected of like, what?

“Dude, this is the only thing that, like, you know, in martial arts movies, there was always”

this myth that the little guy can fuck up all the bigger guys, but what's striking? That's hard, power's real, size is real, mass is real, this is too, you know, too many variables, if a guy knows how to throw a good one, too, you might be fucked. He hits you in the clan, she can't get away from his clan, she's too strong, he clubs you, you're fucked, yeah, but jujitsu man, there's no lucky punches in jujitsu, and that's

what's crazy when a little guy just annihilates you, it's so humbling. My first experience was a dude who was a purple belt, I was a white belt, and he was my size. He was like, this dude's my size, like, this isn't that a bigger dude, this is going to be, you know, competitive, not, he just raped me, just did whatever the fuck he wanted

to do to me, arm bar, me, triangle me, and I remember leaving going, I am so delusional. I had this idea in my head, you know, that I knew how to fight, and then until I started doing jujitsu, I was like, I don't know anything, I'm helpless, like, completely helpless, but, you know, like you, the smart thing to do, like what you did is just go, I want to learn that, you know, and you have in the courage to do that, you know, especially as

a guy who didn't have any martial arts experience at all, just like throw yourself into it. It's very difficult to do, man, and especially at 25, yeah, because by 25, like John Jones had already been a UFC champion and defended it multiple times, you know, it's like, by the time you're starting out, so many guys are like in the middle of their career, yeah.

So that's one thing that I, that I, I've always thought about, and those, like, why

I work so hard is like, I feel like I have to catch up to these dudes that have been doing this their whole life, you know, like, like, dudes have been in the gym since they were kids doing karate and boxing.

edge to being in a lot of conflict and a lot of combat.

“One thing I've always noticed about you when you fight, you're very calm, like when you”

get in there, you're very relaxed, like, and it's like life experience, yeah, that's a factor. Yeah, I just feel like, you know, MMA fight, it's, it's a safe environment, like, believe or not to me, it's safe, you know, because I've been, I've been in, because if anything was wrong, the rest right there, like, all right there, that's it, it's done, you know,

it's a fair fight, you know, I've been in situations where I don't know if I'm a

live, you know, if I don't survive this, I might die, you know, and, and I think that

“I carry that a lot, you know, while I fight and that's why I look so calm, because I've”

been, I'm calming, hectic, sick, like, yeah, it's not the worst thing you've experienced. That's not for a lot of fighters, it's the most dangerous thing to ever experience. Yeah. When they step into that octagon, they close that door and they look across this octagon and another train killer, like, oh boy, like this is the scariest thing that's ever happened

to them. Yeah. So there's a mental benefit that you have for having all those treat fights and even though you didn't start until late, man, the mental game might be most of fighting, you know. Yeah, man, when I, when I step in there, I'm just, I'm just happy to be there, you know,

like, I, I, I, I'm lucky to be out here, I'm lucky to be having my freedom, I'm lucky to be alive, you know, so when I'm, when I'm walking out to a fight, I, I, I just feel happy to, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just happy to be there, like, you know, because while I'm backstage, I'm thinking, how did I get here, dude? You know, like, I'm just, how the fuck did I do this? How did I make it this far, you know? Right. And, you know, like, a situation, like, like, this, like, we're fresh out of fresh out of jail, you know, and, and I'm like, dude, like, main event in Serbia, against,

a guy from Serbia is crazy, bro. But, you know what? Just live, live that shit, man. I'm not like, like, I told myself, like, dude, this is your opportunity to, to tell, like, to, like, to, like, to shit some movie, bro. Like, my life is crazy. It is a movie if you think about it. I mean, very few people live that life. In a jail many times locked up in Mexico for eight months, never known if you're going to get out. Next thing, you know, your headline at a UFC card. Yeah, man, sitting here. Yeah, sitting here on the Joe Rogan experience, you know, telling my story is just, you know, where's your us medged ranked? Is he above your book? He's number 13. What are you at? 15. Yeah. So, both of you guys top, I'm surprised throughout that whole process. They kept me in the rankings. Well, good respect to them. You know, also, they probably realized you were probably working out in jail. Yeah.

But I mean, well, it's not, you shouldn't be punished for something like that. You get stuck in a crazy situation. Yeah, man. Especially if you're coming from California where we'd legal, everybody gets confused.

“You know, you have that weed in California. Everybody is everywhere. It's totally legal. That's why it didn't even, I know.”

I didn't even cross my mind. It didn't even cross my mind. Yeah, we can get trouble for this. That's crazy. I would have never known those laws because I heard that it was decriminalized. I thought, oh, they don't, they got other shit to worry about. You know, they got cartel problems and fentanyl problems. They don't give a fuck if you bring it in weed. Yeah. Well, now I have a part of the process of me getting out is like, I have to get, like now I have dual citizenship in Mexico. Now you do? Yeah. Because of getting out? No, no, my lawyers, it was a part of me getting out.

So like, when you pulled up the, the, the, the, the criminalized, the laws for citizens. So that, that was a process of. Oh, so you became a citizen. So the law was less for you. Yeah. That's hilarious. That was a ton of stuff that we had to do. Brother, that is our crazy loophole. Yeah.

So now before I say, like, everybody should become a citizen of Mexico. Yeah. I ain't never going back to Mexico. I'm going back for a while, bro.

I cannot see myself. I don't even want to go back. So especially since I released the footage of me working out and prison and stuff. Like, I don't ever want to go to Mexico and for any reason, they're like, get his ass. I'm bringing it back over. Yeah. And they probably would, too. Yeah. At the very least, try to get more money out of you. Definitely. Especially after headline and a UFC card. Yeah. And on top of that, like, like, like, like, releasing that footage was like, definitely like a no-no. But since how did you, did they all have cell phones inside?

So were you texting your friends? You could text your lawyer or all that shit? Yeah. Did you worry that your text would be intercepted?

“No. No, not at all. Because I would text everybody or call everybody on WhatsApp. And I guess.”

Yeah. It's encrypted. Yeah. It's encrypted. And so when you're doing all this and filming all this, you just saved the footage and then when you got out. No, I would send it. I would send it to like my friends. So I sent it to one of my buddies and all like, you know, save all this stuff. Because when I get out, this is going to be, this is going to be big bro, you know. Well, God, they didn't release it before you got out. Yeah. Yeah. They're really trust your friends because that could have been fun. Yeah, man. And the whole time, like,

knowing you with knowing your world's at, knowing your world's going on. And there's a couple rumors going around that I was backpacking in Peru. Another one was, was one of my buddies. Like, it's crazy how the internet believes anything, bro. Like, there's people thought I was building wells in Rwanda. Like, when my buddies said that, like, oh, he's building wells in Rwanda doing God's work. And like, people ran with that. Like, hey, actually, people, when I got released right away, they were like,

oh, Kevin Holland bailed him out. Kevin Holland bailed him out to get a rematch. And people will leave that. That's hilarious. That's so funny. It must've been so weird.

“So when you're inside, did they have the internet, would they, could they watch fights?”

Yeah. Yeah. Actually, um, so they ended up putting like these self like scramblers, like these towers that, like, mess up the signal. And we ended up getting, uh, what's that, that, that Tesla thing, Starlink? Hmm. We ended up getting Starlink. It got started. Yeah. Do you want to jail?

Yeah. Oh, my God. That's insane. Yeah. We ended up getting Starlink and how Wi-Fi for a little while. And then I remember, we ended up losing all that stuff because, um, like, every, every, every once in a while, they'd be like, hey, the guard will come back. Hey, uh, they're going to come to inspections. And, you know, so they would like hide everything.

And I remember this one time, they hid everything and they're like, oh, we're not going to get back to you guys. So we ended up, that, like, I'd say, like, by the fifth month, uh, that's when, like, they've really started cracking down and stopped bringing us, like, the extra food. And the food that, like, the prison food in there, dude, is, it's the worst. It's terrible, terrible. Um, tortillas, like, with every meal, like five tortillas,

rice or beans, and, like, some kind of, like, soup. But the soup is pretty much, there's no meat in it. It's, it's, um, majority of it's, like, potatoes and carrots. You know, like, so you're only protein you're getting from beans. Yeah.

Wow. Yeah. And it was just horrible dirty unsanitary.

First thing you ate when you got out.

First thing I ate when I got out was, um, a double Western bacon cheeseburger from Carl's jewelry. I wasn't even the best ever. Yeah, man. And I couldn't even finish it because at the time, my stomach was so, uh, I got, I, like, I got fools, hell, man. Like, I was crazy. And, um, man, I was so skinny when I got out, bro. It was crazy. So, like, this whole time I just been, like, trying to, to just book back up, you know.

“So, what did you wear? Did you wear yourself when you got out?”

Uh, when I weighed, I weighed myself when I got out. And I normally walk around around 200. And I was, like, around 180, you know, but I looked horrible, bro. Like, I looked like I just cut weight. I looked like, I was, like, I'm sure. Yeah, I was, it was horrible, but it was, it was like, I wasn't shredded nothing. I just had no muscle definition. And it was just, it was bad, bro.

And I remember, um, when that first got out, man, I was, like, thinking, like, all right.

Like, when I got out, I hit the, like, I got out ready to just, like, all right. I'm getting my life back. I'm gonna, uh, train my house off, bro. I was so out of shape. I was so out of shape, bro. And I was, like, really discouraged at the time, you know. I was like, dude, I don't know. I think my career is over. Dude, I don't know how I'm gonna come back from this. You know, I was so out of shape.

And that's crazy, because you're working out so much in jail. Yeah, but it was just, um, because of, of the lack of, of, of nutrition. Yeah, nutrition. I was like, so mountainy body was just destroyed. Yeah, it was horrible, bro. And, uh, I almost thought, like, dude, I can't do this. I didn't even wanna do it. Like, I'm, like, I'm not gonna, I think my career might be over, you know.

you know, I'm a fucking soldier dude. I could bounce back from this. And, and you know, I just, I just really believed that through hard work, you know, I'll get back to it to myself.

“And now I'm, I feel great, dude. How long did it take before you start feeling normal?”

But, uh, I'm barely starting to feel like a hundred percent now. Now. Yeah. And when did you get out? Um, it's been almost two months. Wow, that's not a lot of time. Yeah. And when is this, uh, fight as August 1st? Yeah, it's another, not two months. Yeah. That's good. Yeah, and I feel, I feel good now. That's crazy though.

It takes you two months. And then, now you're back, you look normal, like physically, you look healthy. So it took you that time to just put the weight back on and get your muscle toned back and all the time.

Yeah. That's a good thing though that you were always in shape, so you bounce back quicker.

You have muscle memory. Yeah. And actually, I've honestly been enjoying the, the process of, of, like, when I first got out, I could only run like a mile when I was dying, bro. And through, through each run, I could see my progress. I'm like, okay, I'm getting better. Okay, I'm getting better. And I'm like, I'm in love with it right now. I'm in love with getting better and better. One percent every single day. You know, I truly believe, believed that through the work and to trust the work that I have ahead of me.

And I honestly think that by the time the fight gets here, I'm going to be in perfect peak shape. That's awesome. Yeah. What a crazy comeback story. She had, you know? Yeah. And it's, it's really just like a, a really deep personal one for me because from what,

when I, when I first got out to now, it's just like, it's, it's crazy.

It's crazy how, how I, the body can bounce back and kind of just get back into shape, you know.

“Well, it's crazy to the mind too. I mean, you must be so thankful.”

Just every time you're training, yeah, you might be tired, but man, you must be so thankful. Yeah. And free. And then you're working toward something big, you know, you got a big fight coming up and What a blessing. Yeah, man. And I'm just, I'm just embracing the whole process, you know, and I'm just, you know, I'm, I'm all for it. I'm all in actually going to, to jail and going through all that actually made, made me appreciate and value everything that I have going on right now. So, so I'm just like, so grateful and so thankful that I even have this opportunity again.

I decided you contract with the UFC six more fights. Nice. And, and now I'm, I'm, main event is just crazy dude. See, if you go on to win the title for me, I'll crazy with that thing. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. That would be crazy. And, you know, as both, you beat Medich, you're in the top 13.

You close to the top 10. Few fights later. Anything can happen in this world. Yeah. And I would even tell dudes like that. Realistically, bro, like, I can, like, a four or five fights. Like four or five fights I could be fighting for your championship, you know, maybe. Well, in this sport, you know, it all takes us a few spectacular results, a few spectacular results.

And people get behind you and the crowd gets behind you and the next thing you know. Yeah. I mean, if I go out there and smoke this guy, and it isn't, it isn't going to be so much even bigger just because of that whole experience. I went through, and like, man, got out of jail and just fucking knocked this dude out and, you know, why not? Why not, why not, bro? You know, why can't I be that guy? You hear stories all the time of, of these incredible stories that people would become champions from nothing.

And then, been through all kinds of like, why not me, bro?

Listen, you never fucking know. You never fucking know. That's the crazy thing about the sport.

Yeah. I mean, think I happened to it. Yeah. I mean, you got mock-a-chev as the title holder, which is, you know, one of the baddest motherfuckers to ever do it. That's part of the problem. Yeah. You know, he's got the opposite life. That's a guy that's been disciplined and training his entire life. You know, it's never, never fucked around, no drugs, no drinking, no nothing, just disciplined.

Yeah. Tough sell. It's different. Different levels, man. Yeah. There's different levels to it. How old do you know? 39? Yeah. Yeah. So that's like, like, a couple more years left, man.

“That's why it's crazy while they'd stole eight months of like, very valuable time.”

Yeah. And that's one thing, that's one, the number one thing that I was like, man. Like, I'm wearing not a time, bro. You know, I don't got, you know, I've got a lot of time left, you know. So getting out and like I said, like, I'm just, I'm just taking it a lot more serious.

So right now, I'm in Vegas, training over at the PI. That's great. At extreme court tour right now, and freestyle in the name, while I'm in Vegas and while I'm in California, I go to classic, classic fight team training that over at Tanori and Tim planet. You know, so I'm just, but right now, I'm in Vegas right now.

So much, so much easier LA's crazy dude. I'm on the road. When I'm in LA, it's just, I'm on the road all fucking day. LA traffic is just a nightmare.

“So that's why like, I'm in Vegas right now, because everything's so close together and so convenient.”

And that's also so high level. There's so much high level training in Vegas.

And the PI is an amazing resource for fighters, you know, as far as nutrition, cutting weight.

I mean, they'll get your meals for you. They get your supplements for you. They make sure that everything is, you know, safe for sport, approved. So you don't have to worry about testing positive for anything. Like the PI is amazing. Yeah, such an incredible resource. Right now, it's a little bit crazy because they're letting the slap fight guys go there and the zoo football boxing guys, I think.

Yeah. So yeah, those guys are using the slap fight guys train. I don't know how they train, like, how do you, how do you train for that, really? You know, I do neck workouts. I don't know. I guess that's it.

Yeah. Swinging things with your arms. Yeah. I guess like cable machines. Or if you know I'm saying, like, get a cable.

Yeah, you're in your wrist and do this a bunch of times. Yeah. So they have, um, at the PI, they have like this. Like, it's thing that gauges your, um, your power and your strike. And those do you do that, they use that all the time.

The power slap guys do. Oh, that's so silly. Yeah. And then also the zoo football boxing guys are there too. So, so it's a little bit hectic right now.

It's like a lot going on. Yeah, but imagine. Yeah. Power slap guys, that's a different thing.

I've never been to one of those.

All right.

“I hear you have to go to one to enjoy it.”

You have to be on acid. Yeah. To me, it's like, I don't know, man. I feel, I feel like letting someone just swing on you. And the thing is like, if you get the first swing,

you have a giant advantage. Yeah. The first swing is a crazy advantage. That's your danger. Yeah.

Yeah. Just getting, you know, just getting whacked. Yeah. Getting somebody's guys. They get knocked out.

Yeah. 100% man. It's not less powerful than a punch. You know, this is the idea that you're slapping like this.

That's not what they're hitting with the palm of the hand.

Yeah. Right on your fucking jaw. Yeah. It's super powerful. You can only take so many of those in your whole life.

You know, you're lining up for those. Yeah. I mean, you can imagine like, they're nerve damage on your face too. Well, I mean, look, I'm for whatever you want to do. You want to jump BMX bikes. You want to ride bowls.

You want a power slap? Have at it. This is America. A good time. Yeah.

But it seems like at an MMA gym, it should be MMA fighters. I don't, I mean, the boxing is probably a good crossover. Like you can probably get some good work with some of those guys. Yeah. You know, and then also seeing high level boxer train is good.

It's great for your technique. It's great for just raising the level up in the gym. Yeah. Yeah. It's really dope. I love the PI, man.

And Vegas in general, like there's so many killers out there. Yeah. It's one of the best places in the world for MMA training. Me, you got extreme code tour. Think of how many killers are trying it out of there.

You know, you got, there's so many, you got syndicate. There's so many places, man. Yeah. Yeah. It's incredible.

So much to jitzu. Yeah. The prize deals there. There's so many guys that are there. Tenth planet there.

There's so much to jitzu there. There's so much MMA there. I mean, if you're a fighter, it's like one of the best places to live. Yeah.

“I remember when I first went out there, I was in 2020.”

I was on Cowboys camp. And he went out there. And that's when I saw firsthand all the amenities from the PI. And like all the whole Vegas experience. And so I decided to move out there, so I lived out there for like two years.

And I've just been going back and forth ever since. It's worth living there just for the PI. Yeah. You know, and then there's so much moi tie there. There's so much everything.

There's so much great training there. Yeah, yeah. There's a ton of gin like you said. Yeah, might not, there might not be another city in the country that's like Vegas. In that regard.

Yeah. Think about boxing. You got Floyd Mayweather's gems there. Which is crazy. Right?

There's a bunch of other gems there. You got high level boxes there. You got high level moi tie guys there. You know, one kick Nick has his place there.

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Sign up and get 10% off at BetterHelp.com/JRE. That's BetterHELP.com/JRE. Yeah, sometimes I even go to the Angelquani gym. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Anthony and Chi. They have their own gym? Yeah. Okay. They were with one kick Nick, right?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can't say enough. I've been to the PI a bunch of times.

But when I first went there before they were really open when they were really getting rolling. I was like, this is incredible. Like if you're a fighter, you have a place that has all the recovery stuff. Although the high end, top notch recovery stuff. Cold plunge, saunas, all the, everything.

Like all physical therapy, supplements. And when they found out they make food for you, I was like, this is crazy. Yeah. I love that part.

I'm always, I'm always there.

You know, you could go there order whatever you want. You know, I'm just like sure. Staying right. Yeah. Well, they just want you to be healthy, which is makes sense.

Just, it's so smart that they did that.

“When they did that, I was like, what are they doing?”

Don't put all this money in that. Who's going to go there? And then when I went there was like, oh, I get it. They went all out. And it's just, if you want your fighters to be at the very best to compete in the UFC,

what better way than provide the best world-class facility on Earth. Yeah. And then they put it right there in Vegas. And now they have a bunch of them, right? They have one in Mexico.

They have one in, I think they have one in Singapore. Yeah. They have a bunch of them. It's awesome. It's so smart.

Such a smart move to do. You know what would have been crazy if you were on the White House card? If you got really. Do that's going to be major, dude. That's crazy.

I wish it was inside, but it is going to be crazy. It's so funny watching people lose their mind over it. You know, and all sorts of different ways. Yeah. Lose their mind over it because they hate the political situation in this country.

You lose their mind over it because they feel like it's a waste of money. Why they spend it so much money in these countries and in debt. We got problems. Why we have it a fight. And then other people were like, fuck yeah.

There's no more American thing than having a UFC fight on the White House lawn. It's so America. Yeah. It's so Trump. It's so crazy.

You know what I mean? UFC fight on the White House lawn is bananas. Yeah, man.

Even the fight card is amazing as well.

The fight card is incredible.

“The only thing that bothers me is that it's outside.”

Yeah. These guys are fighting for world titles. I mean, Ilya Tapporia might be, he's not just one of the best right now. He might be one of the best that ever did it. It's very possible that he goes down in history as the all-timeer.

I mean, he's, he's so good. And for him to have to defend his title. The world title outside with bugs and humidity and heat. Yeah. You have taken to account the weather.

You know, it's a whole different environment. It could rain. It could thunderstorm. Who fucking knows? It's DC. It's the East Coast in the middle of the summer.

I mean, it's, it's crazy to have a fight outside in June and DC. Yeah, I've, I've fought outside before. It's, it's definitely a different different vibe different energy. Would you fight outside? I've fought outside for combat the Americas.

It was, somewhere near Arizona. It was a night time. That's Camel McLaren's organization. Yeah. Yeah.

I've also fought in the summer in the daytime. And I had a fair one. Oh, my god. Yeah. Is it California?

In California. Well, I was a temperature. It was hot as hell. Do the mat was hot as hell. It was like, I got a fair in the middle of the summer.

Oh, that sucks. The mat's hot. Yeah. I didn't think of that. Yeah, I do.

Was it canvas or was it like mat? I think it was mat. Oh, Jesus. Yeah, it was. So not just that, but he gets slippery as fuck to them.

Yeah, I do. It was hot as hell, bro. Did you ever see King of the Cage wet in wild? Did you ever see that?

King of the Cage put on a fight in the middle of a rainstorm.

And just let people fight.

“Just like I think they just said, look, you know, if you want to fight, you get paid.”

This is it. It's going to rain out. And we're going to have to fight because it was outside. Yeah. So this is back when California did not have MMA.

It was illegal. But it was legal on Indian reservations. So we would go to these Indian reservations for King of the Cage. So it's back when Eddie, I think Eddie was the commentator at that event. I'm not sure.

But he was one of the main commentators at King of the Cage. And my friend, Bud, who's my neighbor back in California, actually sold him my old house. Real good friend of mine. He was one of the owners of King of the Cage. And they were just putting on these events in fucking these Indian reservations

when it was totally illegal in California. So we would just drive to the Indian reservations and watch. And one of them, it poured. I mean, it was outside. The whole thing was outside.

They just set up a cage outside and he's fucking pouring dude. And these guys are slipping all over the place. And it's crazy. They're fighting with wrestling shoes on. And it was just some of them did at least.

And it's fucking ridiculous. Like there's no way you should fight like this. Yeah, my actually, actually, my pro debut was for King of the Cage outside on the Indian Reservation. Like here was this.

I want to say 20, 2017, maybe. So they were still doing them outside, even then. Yeah. Wow. At a symbolic casino.

Yeah. Yeah. That's what we were. Yeah. See if you can find the King of the Cage footage for wet and wild.

It was one of the craziest events I've ever seen in my life.

I'm just so imagine you're basically fighting on ice.

You're slipping all over the place. Everybody's sliding. This is it. Look, they're trying to mop down the cage in between the fights. I mean, it's ridiculous.

Like, what are you going to do? You're not going to dry it out. I don't know why they were trying to do this. But they were trying to at least give them some sort of like not stopping wet environment. Dude, that must have been so hard to fight on.

Oh, look at their slipping. Oh, they're slipping all over the place. At least they had wrestling shoes on because I don't remember what year this was. They're off with the punches. Kind of funny.

I know it's crazy. All the officials have punch us. I mean, it's fucking pouring right now. I don't remember what year it was. I think it said it right there.

2001, I think. Oh, okay. That makes sense.

So that I think that's illegal days.

I'm not 99% sure that's the illegal days. Of course it is because there weren't shoes. But it was the whole event was just insane. And imagine like trying to get a submission on someone who's literally so can wet. Yeah.

I mean, it's impossible. It's it's so crazy. But I mean, these. I mean, these were so remember this forever. This event like everybody was there.

You see the rate. Oh, that's pouring. Oh, that's pouring. I mean, why is he pouring?

“But why are they bothering like sweeping the water off?”

You're not going to dry it out. And look at his feet, man. His feet are sliding all over the place with wrestling shoes on. It's crazy. In the situation like that, you're almost like better off like immediately going to the ground.

But even then like how you can even get a choke. People are still. Everyone would slide out of everything. It's like fighting someone who's oiled up. Look at his drying them off.

That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. But this. It's one.

I just hope it doesn't rain. I hope they figure out a way to kill the bugs too. I've been investigating online. There's a bunch of different machines that they sell for like outdoor events. And these they kill every bug within like a mile radius.

They set these things up and all the bugs just go to it and get zapped. And at the end of it, they dump it out. There's like a big bag of bugs. So if they set a bunch of those up around the perimeter, maybe they can at least minimize the amount of bugs that are out there.

Because you have in the DC area you have a lot of nats. Imagine fighting and you got a nats in your eye. You're going to move them around, something goes in your mouth. Yeah. Is there a lot of them out there?

Yeah. Yeah. It's moist. That's the thing about DC. It's human.

That's a human environment. Especially in the summer. And Jamie and I checked. Was it 100 degrees there? I mean, we're getting closer to the dates.

The forecast is getting better. It's currently set to be a high of 85, low of 69. 69 is nice. No rain. And well, isolated thunderstorm is the two days before.

That doesn't mean anything by the time it gets to June. Yeah. And what is it June 11th? What is it? It's on the 14th.

14th. 12th and 13th. Both have isolated thunderstorms. 12th. 13th and it's on the 4th.

Oh, fuck. And the one on Friday it says considerable cloudiness in fog after midnight.

“I think the fights would be over by them probably.”

But well, the fights are Sunday. Yeah. I'm just saying like that means at night it's getting. Yeah. Well, the thing is if it's the low's 69, that's nice.

So if it cools off by the time the main event starts or the last few fights.

But the first few guys that get after it, they're going to probably fighting in the daytime.

Yeah. You never know. They might just spray some cam trails and change the weather. You know? Yeah, they might.

You never know. Oh, if anyway, it's going to do it. It's Trump. Do you see the thing that he posted?

“He's got like this whole drone army on the roof of the ballroom now?”

Oh, no. So, you know, they built. What's up there? Well, it's not done yet. What's up?

No. Oh, will he post the pictures of the AI? Yeah. Well, not. I mean, it's just a rendering.

Oh, that's all it is. How far along is the ballroom? I think they're pretty far. I'm going to show you the picture that was posted. But it's not.

Take a rendering of what it will. Oh, that's fake. Yeah. Okay.

Why would you tell people what you're going to do?

You can be able to see that. I can't hide it. That's not what I saw. I saw one that looked like it was during the daytime. Yeah, drone.

Obviously. Yeah, that's what I saw. That's the one I saw. So that's what's going to look like. Yeah, drones are crazy.

Bro, drones fight more. And guns flying around on the top. All controlled by AI. Yeah. That's crazy.

What could go wrong? War is a whole other. Oh, no. I think these days. Yeah.

Yeah. Spooky.

“You ever seen some of that footage from Ukraine?”

Yeah. Drones flying around. Bond dudes. Bond dudes. Just dropping down on guys and exploding.

And there's fucking hundreds of those videos now.

You get at one of those Instagram algorithms.

We watch a couple of them. And then next thing you know, they're getting recommended to you over and over again. Yeah, dude. That's crazy. Two weeks ago.

The bar. One day I'm talking talking about something with my buddy next thing. You know, it's all over my phone. My feed. I know.

Yeah, it's crazy. It's weird. We're just accepting the fact that our phones are listening to us all the time. Yeah. You know what I got trapped in recently?

Algorithm of schizophrenic people. What does that mean? Dude. It's all crazy people. That like one guy is like, hi.

I'm Joseph Wilson. I am the legitimate president of the United States. You know, like, due to constitutional, like crazy stuff. Like crazy people is one lady. This one lady is crazy.

She's like, uh, I forget what famous actor she was saying. They're trying to kidnap me and put shit in my vagina. And like, she's completely insane. And every day, it's like some new accusations someone's after her. Someone's tapping their phone.

Someone's communicating with her through our ceiling fan. Yeah. But I don't know how Instagram knows that these people are schizophrenic. It's schizophrenic and keeps sending me schizophrenic people over and over and over again. Because I know.

Right? Well, you're out. If you're watching them, you're out.

“I think she wanted to keep watching them.”

I understand. But how does it know who schizophrenic? It must. There's got to be. There's internal tags on every post.

Right. But in the nuts. I don't know how it's. But it would. Yeah.

How it gets so gut in there. But it is. Or whatever the word is. Yeah. I don't know what the word is.

But it knows these people are fucked up. It's what's sending me. All these crazy people. Like, it's completely insane people. One lady who thinks everybody's a man.

She thinks Rosa Parks secretly a man. Everyone's secretly a man. She's like pointing out like collar bones. Look at that. Look at this is a man.

Kim Kardashian's a man. Everybody's a man. It's fucking nuts, man. And it just gets a frantic people. And I'm like, okay.

So Instagram must know these people are schizophrenic. Because they're all like, I'm telling you. It's like three out of ten videos. Instagram recommends me. Or people that are completely crazy.

So it must know these people are crazy. And it's just sending them my way. Yeah. Same for me. I was talking to my buddies.

I don't know. Something about our deans or something. Next thing you know. I'm like, look at my phone. I'm like, do what the hell is all this.

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It's creepy how the ads target you.

Yeah. It means the washing team, too. And pretty much made the vines already. What's like, how much is it listening?

Did you see that post?

“I'll send it to you, Jamie, that Kim.com posted about”

Palantir. Did you see that? It's from February where they got hacked, apparently. Maybe. Is that what it is?

Yeah, that's what it says. I'm probably still the same one. Yeah, I'm sure. It's very recently that I saw it. I didn't check the date on it, though.

I could send it to you. Yeah, I got it. I think it's good. Yeah. From February 16th.

Yes, that's it. That's the one. I just had was a correction website. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing I just had was a correction website.

No problem. Yeah, yeah. Click this. No problems. Definitely.

“That's another one like Brittany Griner.”

That poor lady. Oh, yeah. She did nine months. They wanted to put her away for ever. Yeah.

They wanted to put her away. It changed like some Russian arms dealers. Yeah. A merchant of death. You guys responsible for thousands of people being dead.

So, this is from Kim.com. Palantir was allegedly a hacked brother. And AI agent was used to gain super user access.

And here's what the hackers allegedly found.

Peter Teal and Alice Carp commit mass surveillance of world leaders and titans of industry on a mass scale. Massive scale. They have thousands of hours of transcribed and searchable conversations of Donald Trump, J.D. Vance and Elon Musk. They have backdoor the devices, cars, and jets of world leaders.

And accumulated the biggest archive of blackmail material. Palantir is creating nuclear and bio weapon capabilities for Ukraine and is working closely with the CIA to defeat Russia. They believe they're one year away. They plan to achieve this by keeping Russia busy with meaningless peace negotiations. Palantir is responsible of the majority of Palestinian deaths in Gaza.

They've developed the AI targeting for Israel. Palantir is an arm of the CIA and all data from international clients is copied into a seat. So the problem is this is like alleged. Is there a community notes on this at all? No.

Really? Just Kurt Metzker. He's the number of what both. Wake we see these hacked materials, though. What are the hackers doing with it?

If they aren't exposing the whole thing, then fuck them. Yeah, they only, I mean, I was in no community. It was a lot of things that sometimes are true and sometimes are not true. Yeah. Do you know his background?

Do you know the story behind that guy? Mayor. Yeah. General.

So his back, I first found out about him a long time ago.

He's a very wealthy guy who lives in New Zealand. And he ran a site. Was it a super uploader? Yeah, like one of those uploads mega upload? Was that it?

And they targeted him because they said that people were uploading things that were copyrighted material.

“And I think they were trying to get him out of the country.”

Extradited, I think they still wanted to come back. Yeah, fraud charges related to it. It's on the screen to make it upload. He'd deny it's wrongdoing. He's US authorities are pursuing a vendetta against him on behalf of politically influential Hollywood studios.

2018 New Zealand Court of Appeal upheld the lower courts ruling dot com appeal to the Supreme Court of New Zealand which ruled in 2020 that dot com could be extradited to the United States. But that he could challenge the decisions through judicial review. His extradition order was eventually signed on August of 2024. He's remained free in New Zealand while continuing to pursue judicial review of his extradition order.

He launched another, he launched another cloud storage service called mega. Although he severed all in 2013, severed all ties with the service in 2015. He also started and funded the Internet Party. Party contested in the 2014 New Zealand general election under an electoral alliance with the monomovement. And contested the 2017 general election independently but failed to win any seats at either election.

He was a famous guy in the early days of the Internet. Did you ever see those videos that he made like these cartoons? Yeah, I'm trying to remember some things that I remember. I don't, yeah. Yeah, there was like cartoons that he did where he was like killing dictators in the cartoons.

What did he call? Internet Party, moment of truth, extradition. See if you can find Kim.com early animated videos. Big on the Seth Rich conspiracy here. He should be.

The Seth Rich one was wild. The Seth Rich one is one of the ones where I just, I don't understand why anybody isn't think that that's crazy.

how they were running things and then he winds up getting whacked.

And they're like, no, it was a robbery attempt at three in the morning. They left his watch. They left his wallet. They left everything. It's phone.

They just killed him. See if you can find his videos. He has some crazy videos. I want to say these are from like the 90s. Like late 90s or early 2000s.

He was, I don't even know what he was doing. But he was very wealthy. He had this crazy house. That's hot wife. He showed videos of it and should.

“And I think this guy's just been persecuted because of that sight that he had.”

And he's fucked now. They just keep going after him. I don't know if he's right about this palntaire stuff.

So I probably shouldn't have been saying it.

But you do know that like in worst case scenario, a gigantic corporation could have the power to surveil everyone all the time. Everyone's online. Yeah. I mean, they can, they can see you now with Wi-Fi. They know where you are in a building at any given time with the Wi-Fi in the building.

Oh, that's crazy. Crazy. They use Wi-Fi and they can get a literal image of you walking around your house. They know where you are in a given time. Because of the Wi-Fi.

So if they tap in your Wi-Fi, they know where you are this shroom. There's targeted strike in the bumper right bedroom. It's been thrown after you. It's crazy. It's really nuts, man.

Because this is, this wasn't, here it is. This is from like, this is Kim Old internet. That's, this is a flash. Yeah. 90s flash video.

Yeah. This is it. Give me some volume. It's a present, even that sound. It's going to be a very cursed sound.

Yeah, this is what he did. I remember this. So this is the 90s. So this is the same guy. It's a very interesting guy.

He's getting a boat. Yes, called Kim's Kim Bull Special Agent. I mean, this is, yeah, it was made in the 90s. This is the reverse. You know, screwing around with internet graphics.

It was like that we're getting the helicopter. He lands on the ground. He's standing on top of Microsoft. What does he do it? Oh, there's Bill Gates.

Boy, people hate it. Bill Gates even back then. No, no, no, please don't shoot me. That's crazy. It's assassinating Bill Gates.

Mama. What the fuck? It's so weird. Oh, he didn't kill him. Just wrote Linux around him.

So he got in trouble for these? Nah. No. No, not really.

“I mean, I think people just thought those were silly.”

He got in trouble for that mega upload site. So the way it used to work is you remember. Do you remember Napster? Yeah. Right.

So Napster worked where you could take songs. You could upload them and anybody could download these songs. The way mega upload worked and a lot of these upload sites is you could take a film. And you could turn it into a digital file and say you take like avatar. Turn it to a digital file and upload it.

And people could then download it and watch it on their home entertainment system through the Internet. Just download the file, plug an HDMI cord from a computer into the TV and boom. You're watching movies. Yeah. And you don't have to pay anything.

And the thing was, it's like all this stuff was copyrighted material. And I think his argument was like, yeah, but I'm not uploading it. I'm just, I'm hosting this service. And they're like, well, this service is used to do illegal things. So you're in trouble.

So it's like, I don't know what the argument is there. I don't know who's right. Do you understand it, Jamie? Yeah. You've explained it.

“But I mean, it's the most people would go to copyright law.”

American copyright law only matters in America. I don't know if that's the argument he was making. But that's true, too, right? Because he's in New Zealand. And this site was hosted in Hong Kong.

Mm. Yes.

This is on January 20th, 2012 that sees more than $300 million of our Hong Kong

when it's $4 million in American money. Damn, son. He did not anywhere. Doing. I wonder how he's earning money now.

I wonder if there's, well, he's money. I mean, he did, they did, I just looked it up. Megat is like a cloud service website now. I don't know if he owns it or runs it. He's trying to crypto currency stuff.

It's probably doing okay.

“Yeah, I don't know what the story is, but I'm kind of rooting for him.”

He didn't own character online. He's very fun online. I don't know if he's right about the pound-tier stuff. But forget about pound-tier. We know that what's happening now.

In terms of you talking to your phone about sardines, and then your phone is showing you ads. There's definitely listening to something. It's unverified. As of February, oh, so this was grock.

Kim.com's claims about a pound-tier hack, and a related allegations remain unverified. Major outlets like roiders, BBC, and New York Times show no coverage. Pound-tier site has no statements. Some sources echo the post, but no independent evidence confirms it.

Right. But you've got to think, if you know a dude who's deeply connected into the hacker world, it's that guy. Right? Yeah.

I think he's the most public one. Yeah.

He'd be the guy that would know some shit.

I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. If it's not pound-tier, and I'm not accusing pound-tier of anything. But there's got to be, at least one point in time, there's going to be a corporation that has the power to do those things.

“And that's what's going on with all this surveillance shit that people are missing.”

I'm sure, I'm sure there already is. You know, they're already doing that, you know? Yeah. I mean, 100%, if I wasn't evil person running some hackers corporation, I would do it.

Especially if I thought it was right. Yeah. Doing the right thing. I couldn't imagine like China probably has. Of course, you know.

A hundred percent. Also, I forgot what I was reading that someone got arrested. I think of some governmental officials. I mean, got arrested and admitted to being a spy. Oh, yeah.

Well, well, there was a mayor in California. Oh, yeah. And Arcadia, California. Yeah, it was a spy for China. She was a fucking mayor.

The mayor of a city was working for China. Yeah, and admitted it. Yeah. It's crazy. Oh, China's playing a long game.

They infiltrate universities. They give money to universities. They fund programs. They give money to research labs. They sell cell phone towers.

At a discounted rate to the military. And these dumb motherfuckers put them around where the military bases are. Yeah. Yeah. I've had guys that are, you know, CIA guys on the podcast.

Tell me about that. How dangerous it is that they've. They bought farmland all around these military bases. China has. Yeah.

What's up? I thought you said something. Yeah, that's crazy. It's crazy that they are even allowed to do that. Like you imagine you're in conflict with another country.

And they buy land right next to your house. You're like, hey. Yeah. What do you do? Forget about your house.

I'm fucking military base. Anybody buy in any land around a military base should be thoroughly vetted. It should be. There should be different laws.

“If you want to buy land around a military base, it should be like, no.”

Yeah. Background check for sure. Not just background check. Like you should be American citizen. And you should have like a legitimate verifiable reason for owning this land.

Like you're a farmer or you're going to put fucking windmills up there. Whatever you're going to do, it should make sense. It shouldn't be like all you have to do is have money. And you could buy land right next to a military base. Yeah.

Where they're doing who knows what. Yeah. And you know, China has like some of the top top, you know.

Some of the, like you never know what they're watching.

Yeah. The technologies off the charts. They're doing their drone technologies beyond ours. And they have like crazy drone displays where they have enormous dragons. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. You can see that flying over the sky. Like thousands and thousands of drones. And they make a dancing dragon in the sky. Like whoa.

So they're all coordinated. But some sort of a computer program and they all work autonomously. It's not man. Like their cars are insane. China's cars.

They have electronic or electric cars that are beyond anything we have here in America. Yeah. And they can't sell them here. Which I think is kind of crazy. I think that's kind of fucked.

It's kind of, I mean, I guess we're in competition with China. But like it should be survival the fittest when it comes to cars. Like if you're making the best fucking cars and you happen to be in China, they should be over here. Right.

You know? Yeah. I mean, it would suck if I was forward and these Chinese cars were way better than anything that we're making here. But everybody that I've talked to,

and I've talked to some guys that work for major automobile organizations. And they went over to China and like, oh my god, we're fucked. Like these cars aren't sane. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, just Tesla alone. Yeah. I know it's not China. But I mean, called those cars aren't sane. Yeah.

Pretty dope.

And they make them in China too. They made a lot.

“They were making a lot of them in China during the pandemic because the”

pandemic didn't really close things down in China the way it closed things down here. But they have electric cars now that have like these insane suspensions. They go zero to 16, one and a half seconds. They're nuts. Yeah.

There's this dude that I follow online. God wasn't his name. Forest auto reviews. I'm trying to remember. But he does these quick reviews.

And somehow another he always gets these Chinese cars.

I'll find his name. But he gets, you know, you know what else? But I was, I mean, I don't think this is China. I'm looking at the Xiaomi SUV 7. I can find his video if you want me to.

Yeah. These cars are nuts, man. Looks like Tesla. Oh, that's the dude. Yeah.

What is his channel? This isn't his channel. I don't think so. Somebody else uploaded it. Maybe I don't know.

Maybe. Maybe somebody else uploaded it. I think it's the same guy. Let me find it.

“I think I think it's forest auto review.”

I'm going to hold on. Yes. Forest Jones. That's it. So he keeps finding.

He keeps reviewing these.

Just good. Scroll down for his videos. Go to his video section. I'm not if you search. I can just narrow it down more.

But. Didn't normally work. When you're going to test the minivan, are you trying to minivans? Yeah. Some crazy shit.

Find a good one. I don't know if it's electric. It's just electric car though. Yeah. This is it.

This is electric. What could be these things? They're nuts. Play in a walley town system with this gorgeous speaker. I also get two wireless charging pads with a fan to keep in cool.

I have this gorgeous drive mode selector. I have a couple of this right in here. And I have a dash cam that can do this. That's crazy. He also makes selfies.

For the blickie. A big. I have built in fragrances that slot in right here. If I push this button, I have more storage space. And I can do this.

I push the button on the side of my seat. That'll fold down my armrest. My seats are heated, ventilated, and massaging. I have an area right down here for my phone. I have built in sunscreen shades.

If I push this button, my cup holder comes out. And I can do this. This is $37,000. And these cars are not available. No, you ask.

I want to watch the movie. I want $37. Is that one? No. Maybe I'm looking at the wrong video.

That sounds like it would cost more than $30. It says luxury cars. What cars that? Does it say? Doesn't say in the description?

No description has been added to this video. See, go for the beginning. See what it says. Is that how I get a moon roof? Pills in my headrest.

He's heated, ventilated, and massaging. Oh, okay. I get a passenger screen. Yeah. So they're doing a wild shit.

I'm over in China with technology. And they have full surveillance on their population. You can't say shit over there. Yeah, they have like facial recognition. Yeah, that's crazy.

Yeah. You can't step out of line at all. They'll make you turn you into a handbag. They'll fuck around over there. Yeah.

“You know, they have, you know, that bodies exhibit?”

Do you know what that is? Like dead bodies exhibit? Uh, I think there's one in Vegas. Exactly. They get their bodies.

Most of them from China. And they're, yeah. They're called like Chinese. Uh, I think it's undeclared bodies. So I'll give you die within a certain amount of time.

If someone doesn't claim your body unclaimed bodies. If someone doesn't claim your body within like 30 days, they just can turn you into a statue. Wow. Well, here's a problem with that.

In order to do this process, where they turn you into a statue, it has to take place within 48 hours of your death. So there's no way they're waiting a month. Yeah. So they have to start this process like pretty soon after you die.

And they have this process called Plastination. And they take the bodies.

And they basically strip all the fat from the body.

And they turn it into this plasticized statue of all your muscles and tendons and ligaments. And so you're out there like playing basketball. And they're like, you could see like the ribcage and all the ligament. That was a dude that was probably tweeting the wrong thing. Or he worked for a company and he fucked up.

Or he was banging someone's wife or he's doing something. And they turned this dude into a statue. And now he's at the Luxor in Vegas. Very cool. For real.

We looked into it. It's, there's not, not just meat saying this. There's a bunch of stories online about these different bodies. And how they've found ones with bullet holes in them. They've found one of them is crazy.

So this lady was having an affair with a mayor in this town in China. And she was an online, or a television broadcaster.

And she was having an affair with the mayor.

The wife finds out about it. The lady goes missing. She gets scrubbed from the internet. Turns out the lady was pregnant. She was eight months pregnant.

She goes missing.

“Then all of a sudden this pregnant lady appears at the body's exhibit with the baby inside of her.”

Same exact size, same features, everything as this lady. The wife of the mayor, who she was having an affair with, the wife was the manager of the Plastination Factory where they turned everybody into statues. Damn. And these bodies, there's no skin on them.

No skin. She's been crazy. Years later, she gets arrested for killing another person. She gets arrested for poisoning some English businessman. And then it goes to trial.

Well, the person who stood trial for her, the person who stood was not her. There's pictures of the lady on the stand. It's a different lady.

So she must have paid someone off to get convicted and go to jail.

And the family offers something like that, and she got free. So this is all alleged, by the way. Yeah. All alleged. But you could see the video or the body is still exhibited.

The body of the pregnant lady. So there's a pregnant lady. And you see a cross section of her stomach where she's like holding on to her stomach. And you see the fetus inside of her stomach. So we're supposed to believe that this undiscovered body, this unclaimed body of a pregnant lady,

with an eight-month-old fetus inside of her body that they find it. And then somehow or another, they know it's cool. So you can just turn it to a statue.

“But you have to do that within 48 hours or someone's death.”

But no one claimed it, which takes a month. None of it makes any sense. Yeah. The whole thing is nuts. Some of them are people that like, I'm going to die.

I want to donate my body to this exhibit. Okay. If you're crazy, that's what you want to do. That's cool. But that's not all those people.

Some of those people are, it's very sketchy circumstances. Let's see if we can find that image of the woman. I wonder how often or how many how many times that happened.

Because the pregnant body, they never investigated it.

The family wanted to, the family wanted to go to the woman. They left us exactly. They were trying to do that. But they wouldn't let them do it. These people, obviously, have immense power.

If she got someone allegedly, you've got someone to stand in line. And this is like a chain of this, isn't it? So look at this. This is the baby. Pregnant woman and the fetus inside of her.

And so the family looked at the face. And they're like, Jesus Christ. Oh, someone stole the fetus. Oh.

“So I was digging, there's another scandal that happened in 2024 with a bunch of corpses in China too.”

Well, there's a video or this, where this investigative reported, this investigative reported visited one of these Plastination factories. And there was bodies that were laying down. There's a video of it.

You can watch the video. These bodies are laying down. They have sheets over their head. And they have their arms tied behind their back. And the sheets are bloody.

So it looks like they all got whacked. And they're all at this plant. Getting ready to be turned into a fucking statue. It's creepy as shit, man. The body was, they just stole the fetus.

Two women in L.A. stole it. Two women? Two women? This is 20 years ago. They probably stuffed it inside of their belly.

Like, yeah, I'm playing. Yeah, there's another thing. There's probably on my Instagram. I'll go with them right now. There's another scandal.

They have four or four thousand bodies were in a corp scheme. They said, oh my god. They were being sold. Family stopped their bodies. Their family members being cremated.

Was not. They were being sold. And I was trying to find out what they were using. That's a lot of bodies. Jesus Christ.

Using for bone grafting. Oh. So aloe, genic, bone graft products. Oh, that's another thing. One of these gets a friend of ladies who's telling me.

And that is true. That a lot of these women are getting fat that's taken from cadavers. So they take fat from cadavers. And then they inject that fat in their ass. To give them a BBL, like no bullshit.

And Whitney Cummings. I told, I sent it to Whitney. She's like, oh my god. It's literal dead ass. (laughs)

Why do you think that's your funny line? Because that's what it is. I mean, it's dead tissue. You take it a dead person's fat. And there's stuff in it in their ass.

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and also acts as a biological scaffold that encourages your own natural tissue to integrate and grow into it. (grunts) Yeah, that's gross, bro. Dead ass.

(laughs) National dead ass. And women are doing this. How long? See if you find a video of them doing it.

There you go. I was thinking like, how do you-- You don't want to. (laughs) How do you be filler?

Oh, I know. That's so nasty. How about you? Just do some squats, you lazy bitch. Yeah.

But people like a real ass anyway. The ass, the legs. It has to match folks. Yeah. It has to match.

Can't fake it. It's like, you ever see those dudes that don't really have muscles, but they get oil injected into their arms. Yeah, it's just like-- It's all weird.

It's all weird.

It's always like a thing they did.

Yeah, it's all--

“I saw this Brazilian dude who had it on his biceps.”

He had it on his biceps. He had it on his biceps. Yeah, he had it on his biceps. Yeah, he had it on his biceps. Yeah, he had it on his biceps.

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Yeah, he had it on his biceps. Wow. Does it matter where the fat comes from? I guess not. I guess it's just fat.

So this is a dead guy and they're peeing.

“So who sold his body to some fucking laboratory with you this?”

Yeah, you have the clumpy butter in this. Look at that. Upper eye in the corner. A whole crazy life. So this is pre-dedass and post-dedass.

That's not bad. It's not bad. But that lady could have done that with the gym. That lady could have done that. She didn't go crazy there.

That's just a little dead ass. Just a touch. That probably is good on the side if you turn it sideways. Does there any photos where they show this video? There says one shot costs 20 grand.

Let's see that guy. He looks a demon. Well, these videos are good. That's not even a real shit. That's a, it's falls down here.

It falls down over here. We're a path here. Oh my God. Yeah. I'm not sure on those photos either.

So they're just sucking fat at a dead people. I had one of my knees reconstructed with a cadaver graft. One of my ACLs. I got a, they use a, a, a killies tendon. Because if a killies tendon is thicker and stronger than the actual ACL.

And they put it in my right knee.

It's never been a problem.

Holy works great. Well, it's from, from your, from your own body. From your own body. From a dead dude. Okay.

Oh, what's that? That says, uh, gluteal augmentation. So that's, but. Right. Right. It says fat grafting.

So that would be putting fat into the butt. Oh, where's that scar? Well, that scar is gigantic. You can have this on a fork. Hold it open.

Oh. Look how green everything looks in there. Oh, that looks so nasty. It looks like bad cheese. That's disgusting.

That looks like. You know, when you show to see like dry, dry aged meat. And you pass by those. Yeah. They don't even look nice.

They have the dry aged meat tendon. Well, so you're going to get your fat. Put in your ass or an implant. But then you have this massive scar. I mean, these pictures are really, that is another head.

So that's where they're getting the fat.

How much fat do you have in your head? Oh.

“Well, that says temporal augmentation by intermediate fat pad filler injection.”

So that's someone getting that done to their head. Maybe it's like tightening up the skin. Yeah, maybe, right? Like a filler. Oh, yeah.

There you go. Look. Oh, she looks good. That actually looks good. So that's from her fat fat graph.

I can't show these photos, guys. Right. Sorry, folks. Some of it's disgusting. But if you look at like people's face when they get older,

that's one of the things that happens is you lose collagen and fat in your face. And that would does make sense that putting it in would be better. See, that looks like hell. Both of them look like hell. Don't do that.

Go to the gym. Yeah. What is that one to the right of it though? That one to the right, yeah, like there. So she got a little bit of a bubble butt from that.

But again, go to the gym. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Yeah, look at the rest of the body. Yeah, go to the gym.

This is crazy. Yeah. Yeah, questionable choices. You get dead ass. Yeah.

“You get dead people's tissue pumped into your butt.”

Yeah. So that more people want to fuck you. You're like, hey, find Jesus. Go find Jesus. Okay.

If you are out there, then I don't give a lot of advice. But this is my advice. If you're out there and you're thinking about getting dead people's fat, pumped into your ass, you probably need Jesus. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean. BBLs are kind of going out of style, man. Yeah. I think BBLs are coming back.

They should. Naturals are making to come back. Yeah. Just work out. Like, there's a lot of ladies that had flat butts that they put in the time.

They put in the effort. And now you're like, damn. You can do that, too. Yeah. Anybody can do it.

It's just the process. Yeah. People don't like that process. People don't want to click results. Exactly.

And they want to work for it. They want those epic. And then they want dead ass. They don't want to lose the way. Yeah.

And now they're saying. And then put it back where you want it. Yeah. Retroutide. What does that call?

Retroutide. Retroutide and dead ass. They should have like a one stop shop. Yeah. Another saying, uh, those epic heats up your bones.

Oh, yeah. So definitely. So everybody's. Everybody's fucked. Who's been taking it?

Well, it's not just that. It also kills your desire. This is what's weird. Like, people are falling out of love when they get on those epic. Like, they lose their desire.

Really? Yeah. Yeah. People lose ambition. They lose desire.

They also lose addiction. Like, people that are addicted to cigarettes. People that are addicted to alcohol and gambling. Apparently, those epic helps that.

Because you're basically killing desire.

Like, your, your desire to go and smoke a cigarette. Your desire to have a drink. Yeah. It gets killed by those epic. Yeah.

And also changes your whole face. Right? Oh, yeah. You'd see probably the first. Yeah.

Yeah. That's a problem. The older, like, the more fat you have in your face, the better you look. Like, when your skin gets real thin, it starts draping over your bones.

You know, that doesn't look healthy. Yeah. Looks like a problem. You actually couldn't. Did you cut weight?

I know. Yeah. It's fucked. It's fucked. That's a part of our society now.

And it's just praying on people's lack of discipline and lack of understanding of the benefits of going through a process and achieving a result. Because of all these ladies that want to do this. Instead, if they just went to a gym, start eating healthy, they would feel better.

They would think better. Their body would look better. Everything would be better. And they wouldn't have to get that ass. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I just, people would be really self-conscious, you know. About themselves. Like, I know a hot, hot ass checks it.

I'm like, wait, you take those epic? Why? Like, why? Oh, just like a little, you know, I'm like, you don't need it.

“I think some women say there's a real benefit to taking a microdose after a certain age.”

I was watching a video this lady is talking about how microdosing these GLP ones is actually beneficial for some women after a certain age because it helps reduce information. It does a bunch of different things to them. But I don't know. Do you gain the weight?

Like, say if like, there's people that are just, I'm just going to do it like, like really overweight people. They just, who obviously like have struggled to do it, struggle with diet and working out. When they get off to like, they gain all the weight back like everything else. Most likely if it's a psychological issue, the moment you get off of it,

that psychological issue is going to return. Because I like shrink your stomach or something, right? Yeah. Well, it does.

But it's basically you're starving yourself.

Just like when you got out of jail, you barely could eat that double cheeseburger. Right? It's because you're stomach shrink because you weren't eaten much. That's kind of the same thing that happens with those Olympic. I mean, what happens to them when people say, oh my god, it makes you lose bone mass, it makes you lose muscle mass.

But so disturbing yourself.

That's one of the things that happens when people go on these crash diets. They go, I'm just 30 pounds of weight. I'm just not going to eat. Okay. Well, your body's going to find food somewhere, so it's going to eat itself.

And yeah, your body will eat fat, but it's also going to eat muscle tissue. It's also going to eat bone tissue. You're going to consume itself to survive, which is crazy. So these things that you're getting these side effects of bone loss and muscle loss,

“that's what would happen if you just stop eating, too.”

It's your body doesn't have any nutrients. Just like when you were in jail, you weren't getting any protein. You weren't grown any muscles. Yeah. Your body is not getting the nutrients that it needs.

So it's just shrinking. So Reddit true ties, I said. I believe so. So that the difference between this retitude side, this one is a different one in that this one allows you to have all the weight loss,

but you don't lose the muscle loss. It's not the same thing. I want to show you a picture of what I looked like. Oh, yeah, please do this horrible. You got my number sent to me and I'll send it to Jamie.

All right. If it's shocking, bro, you're about a holy hell, bro. If this retitude side, my favorite retitude side, retitude side, whatever it is.

This one they think is going to be incredible.

Because this one is going to give you all the fat loss, but none of the muscle loss, none of the bone density loss. And I wonder if it's going to be the same for like desire and whether it's kind of fuck with addictions and all those other things too.

Because I was reading this thing where employers are they're getting upset at people taking GLP ones because it changes their ambition. I saw it. I've been trying to find that article ever since I saw it. And I can find it.

And it's not that it is, but it makes me wonder if it's like right. Propaganda. Propaganda against it from the people who are on the good stuff now. They don't want to know a great place. It could put it into proplexity.

See what AI or AI sponsor are people working. Yeah, habits change. Do employers who are having a problem with their employees taking GLP ones because it affects their work or ambition.

“I think what they were saying was ambition.”

It's making people less ambitious. Which kind of makes sense because I think a lot of people their ambition is probably in addiction. They're probably addicted to kicking ass and doing things. Here it goes. Yes, but the main employer issues with GLP ones

that they are cost coverage and side effects impacting attendance and productivity. Not a clearly documented widespread loss of work ambition. Yeah, productivity. Sure. If you're not as ambitious.

But attendance is unless you're injured. You're hurt. I might decide to show up. I don't even feel like going. Right. So side effects and performance.

Common side effects are nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, plus headaches and fatigue and result in comfort, increase absenteeism and are tied to workplace performance issues if unmanaged. Legal and HR complexity, employers must bounce,

cost control with ADA, HIPAA, and non-discrimination rules when deciding coverage and when asked about employee medication use. Evidence of motivation and ambition.

“There are anecdotal stories, media and personal accounts of people”

feeling less driven or shifting life priorities on GLP ones. But these are not yet backed by large workplace specific study. So employers are not treating lost ambition as a primary policy issue. But I bet they're thinking about it. Yeah, I bet they're thinking about it.

I mean, it makes sense. Did you find it? I'm having a sense of mirror number. Would you look like right when you got out? Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I was crazy dude. I can't find her and I'm having someone send it to me though. Okay. No worries. Kind of embarrassed to show you, but I got it.

No, I don't see this because if you see me now, I bet holy hell, bro. Yeah, crazy. A good before and after is great. The people that are really brave are the ones that say,

I'm going to get in shape.

So here's what I look like right now and they post out on the internet.

That's crazy. But that's also, it's a good way to hold yourself accountable. You know? Yeah. I want to put people to shit on you.

Fashioning works. I know it's not nice. People don't like it. I want someone calls you up that fuck. And you're like, oh, man, I got it.

Yeah, man. Let me. You started thinking and you go to work. Yeah, you know. Yeah.

A little bit of hard work. You know, a little bit of hard work. Get it, you know. Well, listen, if there's a way we're massively obese. People that are dying can get healthy.

And if it's a GLP one, I'm all for it.

And you'll, you'll respect yourself so much better. Like right now, like you, you could look in the mirror and go damn. I look so much better than I did when I got that GL. Yeah. Because you could have stayed looking exactly that same way.

Right? If you got discouraged when you were saying, like, I don't know if I'm going to be able to do this. I have no endurance. I don't know if it's ever going to come back. A lot of people would have just quit right there.

Yeah. And if you quit right there, you wouldn't be able to appreciate the results when you kept going. And that's the, that's the case with everybody. That's out of bad place right now. Just go to work, go to work, write it down, go to work, put it together.

Yeah.

“And yeah, man, I think it just makes you that much, like, stronger.”

And, and like, aside from the work, but like, internally. A hundred percent. Absolutely. Yeah. It's also good for your brain and your brain's ability to do tough things.

If you get through something difficult, you realize, like, oh, I've been here. Like, the next time some fucked up shit happens to you, like, I've been here before. I know it sucks right now, but I'm going to just trust this process. Exactly. Keep on trucking.

So, right when I, when I got back to work, and I was like, man, I'm in the phase right now. Where it sucks, you know, like waking up soars, hell.

I remember the first time I did leg day.

I couldn't, I couldn't even fucking walk, dude. Did you have somebody walking you through it, like, how to do it correctly? We don't overdo it in the beginning. Because, like, did you work with a trainer or a new bunny? Um, yeah.

Yeah. Like, over at the PI. So, when we first got started, we obviously didn't want to, like, because I was so eager to just get back in shape and, and it was, it was tough, you know.

“But that's like one of the things that, that, like, while running,”

while, like, I, like, I, like, I love to run. And it's, like, one of those things where, like, a lot of people, they reach to with a point where they get tired, and then they just stop. You know, they're, they'll just quit, you know. I'm like, you gotta push yourself more and more harder and more harder.

And, you know, you catch a second wind. And, you know, you're, you're jamming, but when I first, first started, I swear to do, like, I would, like, so when I first got out, my, my oldest son, he, he wrestles for a high school. Um, he was like, oh, we're gonna wrestle.

We're gonna wrestle. Because, like, you know, he do all his out of shape. I'm like, oh, man, he, like, you might get me. You know, so in my mind, like, all right, I got one good, one good tick down in me.

And, and yeah, sure enough, um, we wrestle and then shot for that tick down, got the tick down, and got up, and now I'm just like, whoa, he just ragged all the time for that. [laughter] He just ragged all the time.

And then, uh, actually a couple of days ago, I got back from Vegas and, and, and I hit him up on like, what's up now? You know, like, what's up now? And, and yeah, I'm out from, from that first,

that from that first workout to this one. You know, we made it through a whole, a whole workout. You know, so it's such a good feeling because I got really, like, really discouraged, but I'm not even alive. And it was points where I was like,

I got really emotional. I was like, dude, how am I this tired? Like, this is crazy, you know?

And then, I just always told myself, like,

dude, you've made it through so much in your life that you could come back and you could bounce back for this. So that's this whole, this whole process has been like,

“to me, it's just like a comeback comeback story, you know?”

Of course, you know? And it's just about trusting that process. It's just so hard when you used to be at one point. And now you're way, way, way, way below that. And you got to build back up to get to where you used to be.

You know, but that's, that's kind of a blessing. There's a blessing in that because you realize, like, after it's over, it's like, wow, I did it. I pushed through all that bullshit. I got my body back in shape again, and I'm back.

Like, when you get done with your camp, when you're peaking, and on that last week, you're gonna feel so good. Yeah, man. Honestly, I feel great now.

And I feel like I've done such a great job. And actually, recovering more, doing like a lot more recovery stuff. And I've been incorporated that so much. And before I should just go go on like now,

like I take the time to recover. And I've been taking this stuff from regenerate. What is that? Regenerate is like, and, and what is it? And AD or something like that?

Okay. Yeah, stuff like that. And so it's NMM. So it's like a precursor to NAD. Yeah.

Do you understand that stuff? You understand that stuff? You understand that stuff, right? Yeah.

Okay, so that means it's third party tested.

Regenerate.

Does that, um, who makes that stuff, you know? Um, I know that they're definitely USC approved approved.

“And like, I think they might even sponsor.”

Thorn is the main supplement company that you, did the UFC uses, right? Yeah.

Because they're all third party tested.

It's like, safe for sport. Yeah, the, uh, that's, uh, true shield certified. Products for professional athletes. And, uh, yeah, I started, I started taking that about two, two fights ago. And yeah, I feel great.

I guess it's like, like, some kind of anti-aging or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. It's, uh, it basically lengthens your telomeres. And it is, uh, it sort of brings your body back to, like, a level over recovery

that it had when it was younger, allegedly. There's a lot of, there's a lot of people that take IV, NAD, and they take, um, NAD, and, um, you know, you can get it in the sub, you don't, um, was it called subcutaneous? Uh, under the fat injections.

They do it that way too. Yeah. Yeah, but, um, but I think some of the best ways is actually NMN, that stuff, because it, what it does is it, it's like a precursor. And your body just makes more NAD that way.

Yeah. Um, I take it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it works.

I take it before I go to bed every night. You know, Andrew Huberman was telling me about it. He was saying, he noticed that when he really felt like it was working, one of the things that he noticed was that it's fingernails were growing quicker. And that's the same thing with me.

I texted him the other day. Oh, this is crazy. Like, my fingernails grow way quicker than they used to. And I think it's because of that. Yeah.

That's crazy. I just noticed that too. If I was going crazy too. Yeah.

“And I think it's your body's ability to regenerate.”

You know, and, and heal. And, like, for fighters, like, there's nothing more important than your ability to recover from hard work out. So you can get to another one. Yeah. And, um, I spent a lot of time, like, in a hyperbaric.

Hyperbaric chamber and now there's this thing, um, like this. Pimp, pimp, pimp, pimp, pimp, pimp. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Pimp efforts on like that. Uh-huh. And it's like, actual, like, a whole bed. And just like, right. It kicks up, like, like, just, um, some of, like, electric, like, little pulses.

Mm-hmm. And I'd be taking an ops on that thing. So, some of the stuff I don't even know what it does. And I'm just like, oh, it's for recovery. I'll do it.

Yeah. Hyperbaric works. And it works in the same way that NAD and NMM work in that lengthens your telemere. So I did do the study out of a university in Israel.

“I believe it was where they put people on a protocol of for 90 days.”

They did 60, 90-minute sessions at a hyperbaric chamber. And they showed that their telemere increase was equal to a 20-year difference in biological age. So it makes yourselves younger because you're infusing them with energy. You're infusing them with oxygen. Every time I do it, when I do it for, like, a series of it.

Like, I get, like, real consistent with it when I have the time. I always feel better.

I'm always like, why don't I do this all the time?

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they're, like, four or five times a week. That's huge. That is one of the best things ever for your recovery, especially as you get older. You know, because it makes your body react like a young body does. You know?

Yeah. So I'm over here against a racing against a clot, man. So I try to do everything possible to, to, for my body just to recover from these hard-ass workouts. You know? How long was it after you got out before you started sparring again? Um, I recently started sparring about three weeks ago.

To say, gave yourself, yes. So what I wanted to do was, was definitely get in shape. Got to get in good enough shape to, like, if you go to extreme, you're out of shape. You're going to, you're going to, yeah, they're going to. It's going to be very demoralizing.

Yeah. Yeah. So I, I definitely wanted to, to get myself in good enough shape. So, like, this whole time I've been doing, like, a whole bunch of, like, weightlifting stuff. And, and technical stuff, and, and a lot of S and C stuff. And, and, and all right.

The condition is just getting your body back and yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So just recently on my car, I felt, I felt, I felt good enough to, to, to sparring. And, um, yeah, I haven't, it's pretty hard sparring sessions.

Well, you were a guy that was known for your endurance before, you know? You're not a guy that fatigues and fights very much, you know?

So it's like, and you always push up a good pace too.

So for you to get back to where you used to be and have that same style. Like, you have to be in shape first. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I've been getting, getting ready just to start getting ready, you know?

Right. Right. Right. Yeah. Do you wish you had more time than August? But do you think it's a good enough time period?

Especially like the way I feel now. And you have two months to go. Yeah. And I have like, another eight, eight and a half weeks. Eight, nine weeks, something like that. That's nice.

Have you been a Serbia before? Never been. I've been watching videos of like, uh, the Serbian crowd like in basketball. And yeah, it's wild.

Bro. That's why.

“So, so in my mind, that's what I'm, that's what I'm expecting.”

I'm expecting like to be chanting and they might be amazing.

Have they had a UFC in Serbia before? The first one. Whoa. Bro, UFC in Serbia. We played those Serbian basketball games a bunch of times.

He would go outside one. There's an outside with the fires in shit. I don't hear anything. I don't. Yeah, so I had looked, I had looked this up because I'm a...

I'm a... They treated like war. Yeah. But the audiences, they chant like they're like a war is going on. Yeah.

And the middle of a basketball game. Yeah. You know, all these Serbian's that are coming over and dominating at American basketball. Guess why?

Yeah. Yeah. So that's mother fucker. That's originally why. I had looked this up a long time ago.

And was it Nikola Yokech? Yokech is one of the top NBA players. And I was like, when I, when I, when I found a family, family over, like, and I love basketball. Basketball is like one of my favorite sports.

I always like look into like the background of the basketball player

where he came from. And I had already seen the Serbian basketball crowds. Man, I'd be dope to go to like a basketball game in Serbia. Yeah. I'd be careful with what I didn't drink.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

“You go over there to fight their main dude in the main event?”

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. He's just getting upset.

Yeah. If I'm, I don't like to ask, that's crazy man. I was like, especially if they never had a fight over there before. Never had a UFC over there. I'm not accusing the Serbian.

I'm like, it might be a few unscrupulous gamblers. A few people. Yeah. So you're this. There you go.

This is the basketball game. I mean, they got war drums. They got war drums. They're pounding. Yeah.

Because this is Viking shit. Yeah. I love it. So this is what I'm expecting when I love it. I love it.

I love it. I want to go see a basketball player. I think they're, they're guy. Oh, yeah. It's going to be nuts.

Yeah. For sure. But it's going to be exciting. It's going to be so weird for you just when they shut that cage. Like, oh my god, I'm back.

Yeah. I wasn't jail in Mexico. I was in a different kind of cage. Yeah. Like a way less preferable cage.

Yeah. Wild man. What a crazy fucking story. Yeah. And I get to, you know, tell the whole, keep the story going.

You know, make it even better. Yeah. Does it piss you off? Because like, you had so much momentum after beating Kevin Holland. Like, that was a big victory for you.

Yeah. It couldn't have happened at a, at a worse time, man. I know. Because Kevin's a tough guy and a tricky guy. And that was a well to wait for, right?

Yeah. And fighting him at Walter Wade, that's where he's at his best. You know, Kevin at Walter Wade is really, that's where he belongs. Yeah. If you defeat him, that's huge.

Yeah, I do it in such a tricky guy too, man. Yeah.

I was an amazing fighter.

I didn't, I hadn't been, I, I think, I don't think I've had a fight like that in my career. Where, so so much going on. And I was almost, yeah, I, I've dropped him in the second. You know, I was blew my fucking gas tank, trying to finish him. And then coming to third round, he drops me and almost finishes me.

And I bounced back and then at a bounce off. It was, it's like, this, these are, those are the fights that I trained for, bro. I want them.

“And my mind, that's what I'm training for.”

Yeah. Yeah. And it couldn't have worked out. It couldn't, that fight was amazing. I had, that's my third time in schedule to fight them.

And, um, finally, finally happened. It was an amazing fight. It was everything I expected it to be. And I, I expect this fight to be an absolute war as well. You know, do, do the, um, you know, it's got a couple knockouts.

Come, you know, it looks pretty good. He's a very good, very skillful guy. Very skillful guy. Uros Medich is no joke. He's very good.

Yeah. It's going to be a good fight. Yeah. It's perfect. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm going to bring it, you know, I'm for sure.

I'm, I'm, I'm bringing that. He always do. Very good. But for that, man, it's going to be so emotional for you. Like, having that moment, like, the, the realized that you,

you're fully all the way back. Yeah. I can't imagine. Yeah, man. What is the craziest shit you saw in jail in Mexico?

Um, I don't really, it's who crazy, man.

Really? Yeah. I want to imagine. Teen one of jail is pretty fucking crazy.

“Was it because you were in sort of a protected area?”

No, I'm, to be honest with you, the, the area I was in was kind of like, it was like the VIP section. But I was like, everybody was like, there, like, someone with money or like, you know, what we paid to be there. You know, I wasn't like there.

It wasn't like that protected. It was kind of dangerous in the sense where, like, at night, all the cell doors are open. You know, so it's kind of like, a little, a little, a little dangerous on the sketchy.

Yeah, a little sketchy. Nobody got killed or anything while you were there? Not on my, not on my section.

But in other sections, the jail people got killed?

Yeah. Um, how many? In my sense, the whole time I was there, like, I'd say, like, two or three. You know, but, um, I don't know, the craziest thing I saw in jail. Probably, probably some of the, I bought an ounce of weed.

You bought an ounce of weed? I, I was the last thing I would buy. If I was in jail for weed, I bought an ounce of weed.

“Well, you worried about thinking to piss test, you already think?”

Yeah. No, no, no. With the guards brought it in, so I was thinking, like, oh, my God. I might be in trouble for this if the guards are bringing it. That's crazy.

The guards told you weed. That is wild. How much ounce of weed in Mexico? About $300. It's crazy, bro.

You could, you could pay for girls to come in, bro. Really? Yeah. They have, like, a, uh, a menu. Shut the fuck up.

Yeah. And you can get a steak? I feel like keep the ladies. Can you get me a rib eye? Yeah.

Dude, we had a, we had a barbecue one time. Yeah. Yeah. We had a, uh, again, um, we literally had, like, a barbecue. It was like, well, not on a grill.

But when I first got there, we had, like, these hot plates.

And, and the leader would always, like, do stuff for the whole tier.

You know, like, he'll always, like, oh, today, we, you know, like, every once in a while, till, like, once or twice a week. Maybe, um, not once or twice a week. I said, like, once or twice, maybe, and every couple weeks. Like, we'll get, like, pizza, like, the older pizzas.

Yeah. Yeah. Dude.

“And, and, and for, like, I think it, like, a thousand, five hundred.”

The, you could, like, order a chick, bro. Like, a, like, a thousand bucks for, like, a thousand five hundred. Something like that. And the, put you in the conjugal, in the conjugal rooms with some random chick. And you could, you know, have other time order for, like, three, four hours.

Something like that. So you could basically, if you have money and influence, you could kind of do anything in there. Yeah. If you have money, you'll, you'll be okay. I guess.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay, is you're going to be in a tea water jail. Yeah.

But, I mean, you're still locked in a cell. We would only go, we would only get, um, two days of yard. It's for one, one and a, what, an hour and a half. You know, an hour and a half. And the whole time I spent it running.

Wow. Trying to run, trying to keep my, my cardio up. And it was crazy. Because I was like the only dude out there, like, working out, you know, and, and, and, and honestly, by the time I left,

I had everybody, like, working out, running or, or, like, doing some kind of, like, it was, it was, it was crazy how, how I, I, uh, my, just me working out and doing, like, my daily thing, just, like, affected other people, you know, like, sure. Yeah, I was like, how, I, I remember, like, I would have, like,

I would come out to, on the tier. And, um, I was like, doing, doing workouts with dudes right there, you know, and like I said, there's a couple dudes in there that are, some dogs, you know, and, uh, yeah, hopefully, hopefully, I don't know, if, if they do get out, you know,

can they contact you if they get out, do you have your information? Yeah, I'm still in contact with them. That's cool. Hopefully you can get them set up. Did you get the picture in?

Oh, my God. Yeah. I'll send it to me. I'll send to Jamie. The world needs to see this. Wow. Is it crazy looking at it?

Yeah. Did you send it? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

So, the two, the, you said a few people got killed.

No, no, I don't, I don't know.

But I don't know how this picture is crazy. Yeah, when stuff like that happens, like there's obviously, like, you hear 'cause, 'cause, um, oh, you know what? A lot of dudes were overdosing in there. Really?

Yeah. From fentanyl? I think so, bro. A lot of dudes were in there, like, doing heroin and stuff. Yeah.

Yeah. That picture's crazy, though, huh? It is crazy. Yeah. And then, like, to, it's crazy, dude.

It's crazy how, how I bounced back from there. It is. Wow. You look so thin. You had a dude.

Just mountaineerishment at its finest, bro. Oh, my God. Yeah. You look like a dude. Just getting out of prison.

That's what you look like. Yeah.

“So, that's the first, what you got a burrito there?”

Uh, some tacos. So, that's, like, right after I had the burrito. I only took, like, two bites of those tacos. I was like, y'all, I'm full. I'm, I'm imagine.

Your stomach was spent super shrunk. But, yeah, you could see what you lost all your muscle mass. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So, to bounce back from that and to be, to, you know, being decent shape right now. Yeah. How many guys died of overdose right over there? About three or four of them. Damn.

So, you could kind of get anything you want. Really in jail. Yeah. You didn't kind of drug. Could you get steroids?

Uh, I don't think so. I try to get protein. Protein powder? Yeah. Yeah.

Some protein powder, but we never, it was never able to happen.

That's crazy. They get your heroin. No problem. Yeah. Protein powder?

Oh, that's kind of an issue. Yeah. That's ridiculous. That's crazy. Yeah.

I had, I had turned myself until, like, a little gym. And I was, like, just trying to, trying to stay busy. And I always told myself, like, man, just for some, this, this, this, there's got to be some way that this is going to, just going to work out for me, you know. And, you know, I ended up, I ended up having to, you know, pay a nice amount of money.

You know, to be sure to be here today is a lot, bro. I'm sure, we'll talk about that later. I'm, listen, I'm glad you got out. You know, I had only heard about it. Maybe a few months ago.

I'd heard about it. Like, I was a three, four months ago, because someone had asked where you were. Like, you know, someone's saying, you know who I haven't seen a while. It was D-rock. And then someone said, dude, I heard he's locked up in Tijuana.

And I was like, oh, no. I'm like, what a fucking hat. Like, that could be it forever. You hear someone's locked up in a Mexican jail. Like, that could be it forever.

Yeah. Again, yeah, man. I'm so happy to be out, dude. I can only imagine. Yeah.

I can only imagine. I mean, listen, it's, you don't appreciate the sunshine until you experience a lot of rain.

“Unfortunately, that's how people operate.”

You know, you get real accustomed to things being great. And then you don't feel good about it anymore. You need like a little bit of that in your life sometimes. Just a little bit of a wake-up call. To let you realize, like, you should be so happy and so thankful

that you get to experience this life. Especially the way you're experiencing it. I mean, what a dream. To go from being a guy who's in an out of jail, fucking up your whole life to being a top 15 UFC

Walter Way contender. And arguably, one of the toughest divisions in the sport, if not the toughest. I mean, the UFC, Walter Way division is fucking crazy. You got Carlos, protest, you got Sean Brady, you got Morales.

You know? Yeah, dude. And before I got arrested, I was gonna fight protest. Wow.

I would've fought him in Brazil. Woo. Yeah. Don't even wild. Yeah, dude.

And yeah, I mean, it's crazy to see, like, how the division has changed. Like right now, the top five dudes, or it's in Gary, protest, Morales, McChap's champion. And it's completely different now from when I got arrested.

Did you see the JDM protest fight? No, I wasn't able to see that one. protest looks so good. He's so clever. That's a tricky striker man.

And he's so long, so long for the weight class. It's almost like his arms belong to a dude who's seven feet tall. You know what I mean? Like his arms and legs are so long. He's so slick.

Yeah, when I, when that first guy released,

we were planning to fight Leon Edwards.

“Yeah, but I think it would've been July 11th.”

And now it'd've been way too soon. But I mean, the August fights a couple weeks after that.

Those couple weeks when you're dealing with, like, your body recovering from what you've been through.

That's, that's August sounds right. July sounds early. Yeah.

“Yeah, so now I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna be ready.”

But I'm gonna be in super good shape. And, and I just got, I just trust all the work that's ahead of me. All the work that I have lined up and, and all the recovery. And, and just, just, just like, like I said, man, like just appreciating everything. You know, my, my life, bro.

So, I've been out of jail before and no one ever gave a fuck.

You know, like, now I'm out and I have these amazing opportunities.

And I'm sitting here talking to you, bro. Well, it's crazy.

“And more importantly, you've got a big fight coming up.”

So that's very exciting. I'm very happy for you, brother. I can't imagine what you went through. I can't imagine what it felt like.

And wondering if you're ever gonna get out, you know,

and thank God you had the resources. And you knew the right people. And they figured out how to do it. And then trying to do a Mexican. Yeah.

(laughs) That's wild. Yeah.

“Well, I can't wait to hear all about it off air.”

But, uh, congratulations on getting out. I look forward to you fight. I'm really pumped. I'm really pumped for you. I'm very happy.

Very happy you're out. Yeah, man. Biggest fight in my life coming up, man. I'm just embracing all the work and just everything, bro. Just everything, bro.

I'm living the whole process. Well, I can't wait to see the fight. So congratulations. I know the people are rooting for you. So thank you for being here, man.

A lot of fun. Thanks for having me, man. I love you. My pleasure. All right.

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