JRE MMA Show #182 - Protect Ya Neck - Free Transcript | The Joe Rogan Experience

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[INAUDIBLE] Oh, hey! [INAUDIBLE] What's up, bro? So your boy Tom was awesome.

It's great. He was really cool.

“Yeah, I actually listened all the way out to that one.”

He's really fun. Tommy Lee's fun. He's like a big kid, man. He is.

Yeah, like a 15-year-old that's just never--

Never grow old. Never grow old away up. There's no-- Clearly damn famous when he was 18. Exactly.

So he really never had to grow up. He just stayed Tommy Lee. Yeah. I'm glad you finally got to have him one. It was very cool.

So it was good. So he's really in a bonsai trees. Oh, big time. Crazy. Turns him up.

Get like 100 years old. I find them at. His-- He's-- He's--

He's-- He make him yourself. His yardels. He sets up like a whole Xengard and type of thing. Yeah.

It's pretty wild. Yeah. But he's-- He's been into those and he likes trim him up. And, you know, it's pretty wild.

He's just-- He's a positive energy, nice guy like he's never never been-- And my-- You know, what do you want to say? Interactions with him never.

He's never been a dick. No, he never. He's incredible. He was cool to work for. Well, I only worked.

I met him rather when you were working with him. When you were his bodyguard. And then this is the other time I met him. So he's super cool. Nice.

Good. I remember him in the car. In the car. I was in the car. I was in the car.

Yeah. What does he do? [LAUGHTER] It's got to remember that. His peckers are tall as you are.

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“I remember him when he spoke in huge dick.”

[LAUGHTER] With Pamela Anderson. He's got a lot of advantages in this life. Doesn't it? Good Lord.

Goddamn. So in person. And one of the greatest drummers of all time.

That was like one of the first sex tapes.

Oh, yeah. That was right. Yeah. For sure. For sure.

For sure. He's a celebrity. He's a celebrity. Did it allow them to get famous afterwards? Yeah.

Yeah. Well, they were already famous. That was wild. That was great. Both of them were super famous.

Right. They decided to like to keep the catapult them until a different stratosphere. Right. Well, anytime one of them celebrities is dating

another celebrity. They're fucking superpowers, you're nice. [LAUGHTER] Yeah. He was up with Heather Lockleer too, right?

Right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, who's fun dude? The trees thing is wild though.

I didn't know that these people they have like 100 year old trees. 200 year old trees. 300 year old bonsai trees. And they pass them down through generations.

They have like paper work.

So you know like who's the guy who first started the tree.

And they've got these trees that are like several hundred years old. And they're like this big. And they're in like a pot. We see real old trimmer.

It's all like an artistic thing. They're trimming them in certain patterns. And every time they try to grow you, trim them down and they just like tighten up. It makes a weird form.

Yeah. It comes out straight. Pretty cool looking. Yeah. Actually, you know.

I wanted to treat likes at though. [LAUGHTER] Why did she say, "Hey, no fucker." I'm trying to grow. Yeah, three hundred years old.

16 inches tall. This is what's hard. [LAUGHTER]

“I think for him though, he's had such a crazy, high-paced life.”

Oh yeah. To the young, you know what I mean? That's how he relaxes. I loved hearing it. It sounded perfect.

I was like, "Oh, you found a great thing." And you see he's a gear head too like you. Yeah. He was talking about something on the cars. First cars he bought.

He bought a old Corvette. He got a fucking supercharger put on it. Yeah. He's a maniac. He's definitely a maniac.

But he's a very nice, a very cool man. Oh yeah. The drummer from Motley Crew. I can't even imagine what that was been like. Must have been insane.

A lot of these guys. They don't want to stop touring. Oh, these rocking roles. Why would they want to? I don't know if she's sure that is lemon.

But some get a reaction though. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them. I saw some clips.

Who the fuck was? I think it was the guy from AC DC. Brian Johnson. I don't know if it's going to get great. Yeah.

It's great. Dude, AC DC. All the same. One of my favorite all-time bands and Brian Johnson struggling. I mean, but that scream in style he has.

Wow. I mean, how do you keep that going? Like no acting or vocal coach. Whatever tell you, you could sing like that. I don't think so.

You're just getting more like that. Yeah. You can't fucking scream like that. I wonder if they get like 60-year-old groupies. 100 percent.

100 percent. She's a hero group. She's in that dream. Oh, my God. They've been keeping that flame lit since the 80s.

Of course. But did they have like new groupies though? Of course. Of course. You know, there's no way they know.

Doesn't. What is his name? Jesus Christ. Rolling stones. If I forget what I'm talking about.

Well, I know Mick Jagger has a kid that's really young. Like Mick Jagger just had a kid like really recently. Well, yeah. He's like, it is 80s. I was thinking to someone else though.

Someone else is another. Oh, there's a bunch of guys like that. Like Al Pacino just. Oh, yeah. That's true.

A lot of older guys like that,

they wind up having kids.

Like they're still obviously getting young chicks to fuck them. It's kind of irresponsible. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, he's probably a great kid. Yeah. Take care of the kid, but maybe it's the unchecked ones to kids.

But that's yours. But it's still.

“If you're the guy and you did it on purpose, that's why.”

Yeah. You don't even want to be around. Yeah. Because you have this kid at 80. It's more important than my jeans pass on than I be there for my child.

Think about that. But it's time you're 85. You're probably going. Yeah. By the time you're 85.

Yeah. If you won't even see your kid go to school. You'll be five years old. Yeah. You know, the kid will be five years old and the dad does.

Maybe the, maybe the wife wanted it. Well, sure. You leave something behind, type of thing. You know, it maybe it's better than not doing it. Maybe.

But also, if you're a fucking rational 80 year old. Yeah.

Like, probably I'm going to take care of yourself.

I'm giving them. Keep your own shit in your pants. Okay. You're going to be crazy. I can't.

Both of them. Can I take you to your diapers? You're going to take the kid to the park? Why don't you do the kids diapers and yours? But are you going to break a hip and your toddler is going to be

screaming and no one will hear it. Right. And you're going to be alone with them at the park. You're going to be lying there bleeding internally from a broken hip. And the kids going to walk off.

“You're going to want to get five years old.”

Yeah. Three year old wander off in your 80s. Oh, nuts. Oh, yeah. By the way, long ago, you got a mupset.

Because he's like, man, I've been feeling good. He's like, you know, I'm at the gym every day. I'm like a fucking night. I turn on roll good. And he's pitching about being 58.

I'm like, what the fuck. He's 68. Oh. So it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's playing around.

He's 58. Raise, raise 68. He looks great. He looks great. He looks great.

Oh, dark ass hair. I know right. He don't have it. He don't have it. He's breaking.

He's looking good. That's great.

And then he asked me about it.

What the fuck. A lot of Reagan had dark hair. Like deep in here. He had a set of these. My shit is all white.

If I grew my, if I had hair and I grew it out, it would be all gray. Really? Yeah, mostly. It's like my face. Like my feel like it was my stubble.

It's like at least 60% gray. Yeah, mine is all gray now. Yeah. It's weird. Like something about a gray beard.

It's like you're just saying, fuck it. Yeah.

“That's why I was trying to trim it down.”

I was like, yeah, this is ridiculous. Yeah. I don't like a way of looking. But I see myself in the mirror with a gray beard. I'm like, who the fuck are you?

Yeah. It's supposed to have a dark beard. For sure. I had a dark beard. Most of my life.

I'm like, like, a couple of years ago, and it's dark. No, it's all gray. Like what the fuck happens? They had a thing on A&E with me in George. And they had a show to clip of me and you talking.

I still, we both had hair. That's all. Yeah. We're crazy. It's, it looked crazy.

It's weird. You look, you look, you want your slowly slipping into the grave. We're looking good though. We're looking good though. We're looking good though.

Yeah. Compared to people that don't take care of themselves, and also compared to people from the past. Oh, that's what I'm saying. They didn't have to.

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They didn't have to take care of themselves. They didn't have to take care of themselves. So you're going to go out to a giant one. My friend CTF lecture, CTF lecture. CT had a hard transplant.

And he has to take medication to keep this heart in his body. He keeps his body from rejecting it. And he has a bunch of complications in their medication. It makes him swell. And he posts videos and pictures about it.

It's a serious thing. And he had to be real careful during COVID. You have a hard transplant. And then you're on immunosupperson drugs. Or bad flu.

Like anything bad will fucking kill you. Because your immune system is working in a weird way. Because it's trying to keep someone else's heart inside of you. Yeah. Your body's like, who's this fucking heart?

Right. It's not hard to show. Your body's like, this is a disease. Which is wild that your body knows. Yeah.

Like it recognized. This is from another Georgia. And we're just like, no. We can hack nature, shove it in there. Get some drugs that make your body stay alive.

I think it was below my home. Yeah. It's below my home. Maybe he has like an agreement. I hate this.

Didn't they train together, right? They did use a train together.

They're friends.

Maybe that's the deal.

“We were just reading about this last night.”

Two people have had pig hearts transplanted in their bodies. No way. Yeah. One guy stayed alive. I think for 60 days.

And one guy stayed alive for 40 days. Did they gain a lot of weight? Yeah. There's a bunch of doctors. Apparently pigs hearts for some reason are similar in function to a human heart.

That's a lot of sheep's vagina. Don't they? They do. They do. They do.

They do. They do. A pig's heart. Yeah. That's fucking crazy.

It's crazy. And so they did it on two people. Yeah. But either way. The whole thing of transplanting organs from other people is like super risky and dangerous.

And once it's working, the number of, like, we looked at heart transplants. I don't know what it is for lung, double lung transplants. But you look at mortality over a period of years.

“And so it's like 91% of the people survived the first year.”

And then it starts, and then it starts going now. So 9% of the people die after the heart transplant. But then it starts to go down.

After, you know, that's for the first year when it gets to five years, then you're in the 80s.

Or the 90s. And then the 80s. And then it keeps dipping. It keeps dipping. Until like at 10 years.

It's like half of them are dead. Jesus. Yeah. So you're buying some. Yeah.

You're buying some. Yeah. But that's also. Yeah. It's good question.

So what is it like for double lung transplant? I don't know. But I would imagine it's fragile. You want to put that in the fucking red. You want to push that when you breathe in heavy.

It felt like yesterday he was making laps around the hospital floor. Right. And that's a, I do. He's a winner. Right.

And that's the problem.

“Like sometimes when you're a winner, your, your will is so strong.”

That you think you could force your body into unrealistic expectations. There's gotta be some of greeners. Yeah. I got just in my mind too. But I was busy.

He cheated.

I mean, you basically you cheated death.

Yes. Your family. Now you have your family back. You understand. You have a second chance.

Like why would you put that at risk to do something. Maybe him and. But you have nothing to prove that. Like a friendly. That's kind of what I'm wrestling role.

Yeah. I don't think that they have an agreement with each other. I think that somebody told. I don't think that they have an agreement with each other. I think that somebody told.

Below. Hey, listen, man. Don't push this dude. Well, he said. I'd like a song an interview where he said.

Like his first question was. What are you talking about? Can he wrestle? You know what? I mean, that's even been cleared.

So I would, I would not accept that if I was below. I was like, I'm the, the pros. And this is no disrespect to asking. I think that guy's an animal. Like I was one of the biggest promoters of trying to get

aspirin into the UFC when he was the champion of Bellator. And then when he went over to one. And the argument was like he was boring. And I was like, no, he's not boring. It's crazy that he could do this these guys.

Yeah. He could take guys like Douglas Lima and just ragged on to the ground. And they can't do shit to him. Forescop. Yeah.

Yeah. He wasn't boring at all. He was a strong guy. Yeah. Darling.

Yes. They had zero chance in him not taking them down. It was zero chance. And it was beautiful. Right.

It wasn't like Alex Pereira flying me and somebody in the face. But it's still another way to win. It was like a man in a child. Yes. Yeah.

It was crazy good. He was crazy good. And then we got him like a little late. Right. We got him when he already had hit problems.

And he eventually had to get a hit replacement after he got into the UFC. You know, he had already been 15 years in combat sports. And then all the years of wrestling. And like, but those days when he was running shit at Bellator, he was a mother fucker, dude. He was a mother fucker.

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“- Right, no, what's the most important thing about that fight is that both, it's almost like the closest thing to style of her style that we could have nowadays.”

- Yeah. - You know, they're both so brilliant at the way they use their art with him with his wrestling and him with a jujitsu.

And in that fight, you got to see some of that with Ben, you got to see the date gowns, you got to see an umo platter reversal, and like, like, actually reversal, I mean, beautiful jujitsu. - Yeah. - And it was just such a great fight. - Dude, Damian, my got fucked harder than anybody ever got fucked by a referee's decision. - Camaro's. - Yeah. - Ever. - Right. - Nobody got fucked harder than Damian. - How was it? - Was it her who was it? - I don't know, and maybe we should even put her name up.

- Yeah. - I can't do my boys like that, man, I got to see them. - I don't remember the, I don't remember who it was, but I think as a guy who doesn't do it in the UFC anymore, but he had him on his back, one hook in over under. He had gotten to a position where like, you are fucked, you're dry, and you got the best back specialist in the UFC. Damian, my, it was the way he ran through Neil Magney, like, "Oh, shit, man." - His jujitsu is so high level, and for you to get off, get him off, and Camaro's one boss.

- Right. - Right. - It was to make a joke. - Yeah. - I'm not satisfied with him, brother. - So it's like, how many years ago was that? Like, and now you're fighting Damian Mai, and he's got your back, you're in danger. - Yeah. - But you're in danger, and the referee separated him. - So crazy.

- Never got to that spot again, Camaro played it nice. He fought a great fight, won the fight, and you're like, "Damn, Damian had him."

He had him in a, like, not nine out of ten, but he had him in a, like, a six out of ten spot. - For him? - Yeah. - Like, half the time, he gets your back in your dry, and you're not at his level of jujitsu.

“- You're in fucks, you should never, you could, you should never separate anybody from that position.”

- Now, I know you're a big proponent of not standing people up, but especially, special positions, did it requires time to get to 100%. - 100%. The idea that a guy can defend it for a few seconds in the crowd booze, and that's enough for you to make him neutral again. - Fuck you. - I know it. - It's so hard to get to, to Camaro? - Yeah. - Camaro? I know. - I know. It's back like that. - And the tightness is what keeps that position. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And he's facing Camaro's gone. - And even the amount of times, in the history of Camaro's entire, all the years of competition,

where people got him in disadvantageous, grappling positions. - Right? - I can't think of this very few, very few. - Leigh-on down. - Leigh-on down. - Leigh-on down. - Leigh-on down. - Leigh-on down. - Leigh-on down.

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