10 Years of The Lazy Genius Podcast!

is not about hacking the system to find more time or hacking your energy to get more

“done. Hustling to be the best or to make the most out of every opportunity is exhausting”

and unsustainable. So here we do things differently. On this show, we value contentment, compassion, and living in our season. We favor small steps over big systems. Here we are lazy geniuses. Being a genius about the things that matter and lazy about the things that don't, and I am so glad you're here. Today is episode 467. It's 10 years of the lazy genius podcast. You guys, this show is 10 years old. This week is our 10th birthday and I cannot

believe that I have been making the show for like as long as my daughter's been alive. She's about to be a fifth grade. Guys, are we in fifth grade? This is crazy. So today we are going to celebrate 10 years of the lazy genius podcast. I'm going to share some of your own memories of the show. Things you've learned as well as my own. And we're going to just have like

“a big old love fest today. I'm so grateful that you all have been listening enough that”

this show even gets a tenth birthday. After that, we're going to have a little extra something where I share a couple of things I'm looking forward to this summer. This whole

episode is looking back. But for that, we're going to look ahead. And as always, we will

celebrate the lazy genius of the week with a tremendously simple but glorious tip for a mom of young kids who has to go up and down the stairs every day. And we'll close with a mini pop talk for when you're not sure if you made the right decision. Also, super quick plug. Don't forget to order your summer playbook before June hits because that's when the summer playbook runs. It's June July in August. That way you can plan your upcoming season

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“because my is cookupants. And then I get to pull out my tomato red summer playbook and take”

a deep breath. And I'm so excited about it. It's going to feel so good. So you can get yours at the lazy genius collective dot com slash playbooks. Okay. Let's jump right into the episode. It's a 10 years of this podcast. I wondered how rare a 10 year show is, especially when it continues to grow and stay steady across such a long time like we have. So I went, I went hunting. Y'all, we are in incredibly rare air over here. Frankly, we're in rare air

that we're on the air at all. So based on stats from January of this year of 2026, there

are about four and a half million podcasts registered with various distributors. But only

around half a million of those are active. Active meaning they have released a new episode, sometime in the last 30 days. And it listen, a lot of shows take long breaks, which is great. And some shows like cereal, they're going to have listeners forever, even if they go like years between seasons. But in general, there are half a million active shows of the four and half million that are out there. So that is a already a small percentage of shows that that

actually like last and are happening. Now, most shows have to end within the first couple of years. They don't make it that far. And the average number of episodes when that happens is 67. The all today, we are celebrating 10 years at episode 467. Desk crazy. But this is crazy. You all there are less than 20,000 podcasts that have lasted 10 years. They're so going. It's like 18,000 something. Now, I mean, that's a lot of shows, 18,000 is a big number. But also relatively speaking,

that is not a lot of shows. And based on how many listeners and downloads we have, the lazy genius podcast is in the top 0.1% of podcasts. Not top 1% top 10th of 1% of all podcasts. Y'all, that is bonkers. And also because it's because of you. Like we wouldn't have beaten those odds. We would not have lasted this long. We definitely would not have been able to sustain this show at such a high level for 10 years without you listening faithfully weekend and week out.

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I will just never ever get over it. We've had over 35 million downloads since we started

tracking the downloads in 2020, not since the very beginning of the show, because obviously it's started before then. But y'all 35 million downloads. I'm just like a random lady in North Carolina who likes to help make life easier. I did not realize all of these podcasts numbers. Like I didn't know this always true. And I'm just kind of, I'm just kind of gobsmacked by it all. So thank you for listening. And for making this show last, I am genuinely so grateful to you. Like I can't

celebrate the 10 years. After the break, I'm going to share the memory of the very first podcast

episode I ever recorded. How and when the lazy genius principles fell into place on the show,

“some words from you guys about what you have learned and what you remember from these last 10 years.”

And then I will share what's next for the podcast in the future. So much fun. Okay. First, let's take a break to hear from our sponsors. You guys, it's a massive deal that we even have adds. Like it's a tough market out there. And we have been able to partner with our network, the office ladies network, and our parent network, Odyssey, to keep making this show free for you to listen to. They cost a lot of money to make a podcast. But it means the world to me that you all

don't have to pay to listen to it. You get to listen for free because we have sponsors. Something a lot of shows don't have. It is such a gift. And I'm so grateful. So before we take a break to hear from those sponsors, here is your quick reminder about the podcast recap email that we send out every other Friday. It's called latest lazy listens. And it summarizes the episode. It shares

the lazy genus of the week. The other segments we have on the show. And there's always a little extra

note for me to help encourage you through the weekend. So if you would like to get that recap, you can go to the lazy genuscollective.com/lissons.

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pillows with a cheap mic, like perched on my lap, and I talked to Emily Gordon about how to embrace change. So, cause and I knew Emily, when we all went to college together here in North Carolina, and she is an absolute delight. At the time of our interview, she had just gotten out of a meeting with Jud Appetal, the producer of the movie that she and her husband, Khumail Nangiani,

who's an amazing comedian and actor. You probably know who he is. They were writing this movie

together. The movie came out the next year. It was called The Big Sick. It's tremendous. It's hilarious and so tender. It's like the true-ish story of how Emily and Khumail met, and it was nominated for an Oscar for Best Original Screenplay, like Emily got nominated for an Oscar. It lost to Jordan Peel. Forget out that year. Like, what a crazy beginning of this podcast. To have an Oscar nominated screenwriter. Talk to me about moving to a new city and making friends.

She was lovely and generous, and thankfully was a podcasting pro. She already had her own show at the time, because I had no idea what I was doing. I didn't know how to interview. Frankly, I'm not sure I do now, but I do enjoy talking to people, and I, like, I viscerally remember talking to her inside my pillow fort on my bed on this spring day in 2016. Everything has to start somewhere, and that is where the lazy genius podcast began. Now, at first, a lot of you know this already,

I thought this was going to be a guest driven show. Like, I would have someone on to talk about how they handle a certain type of topic, and then, you know, we just carry on. But after 10 episodes, I realized that was not the podcast I was supposed to make. I did not trust my own voice or my own

“credibility at the time. I was honestly afraid, like, who in the world wouldn't want to hear me”

talk to myself by myself for 30 minutes, like, well, that's crazy. But while I did not know my own voice yet, the decision to make the podcast solo, it really felt right. Some of y'all already know that I, I'm a Christian. I love Jesus. I listen to Holy Spirit, and it felt really clear, that I was supposed to keep going with this podcast on my own. And I think if I didn't have that that conviction outside of me, I probably wouldn't have done it. I just would have been too scared.

sort of conceptualize new episodes, what it was going to look like. Like, look like, and then the first

solo episode, it came out, uh, it was episode number 11, because I did 10 guest episodes. Episode number 11 was the lazy genius shops at Aldi. And here we are, 10 years in 467 episodes later, and I'm still talking into a mic, and you guys are still listening, and I'm so grateful. I'm so grateful. Here is another blockers thing. So I made the podcast for almost four years without the lazy genius principles. Four years, you guys. We had, we didn't have the 13 lazy

genius principles. Now, they were there in theory and occasionally in name. Like, I wouldn't have been able to name and create them for my book The Lazy Genius Way that had the 13 lazy genius principles. That didn't come out of nowhere, that didn't come out of the nair. They were already part of the fabric of what I taught. But as a whole, with their names, the 13 lazy genius principles were not the official 13 lazy genius principles until August of 2020, a full four years after I started the podcast.

“And I think it's no wonder that the show really picked up a lot of steam after that. The book”

gave the podcast more credibility, but more than that, it gave it more direction and clarity. Like, every single thing we do is rooted in those 13 principles. And when you have a clear foundation in something, like it's just a lot easier to build on, you know? Speaking of principles, it's time to hear from you guys. Here are a few principles that got singled out in some comments

from y'all. So this one's from Melanie. Melanie says, the most important thing I've learned is to

live in my season. Instead of trying to jam my expectations into the unexpected season, I adjust my expectations, which I don't think I would have had the grace to do prior listening to this podcast. Thank you also for adding grace into my vocabulary so that it is now something I can give myself. Melanie, I love that. And what's fun about all of you learning this vocabulary

“is that you get to share it with your people. You know, that's why I care about this audience and”

community growing. It's not for my benefit. It's not to like hit another number of downloads. It is quite literally for everyone else's benefit that we can all become more grace-filled in our language towards ourselves and towards each other. Here's actually another comment that that sort of aligns with this pretty well. This one is from Dina. Dina says, the biggest thing I have learned from you and have allowed myself to embrace on a sole level is that I'm not a robot.

Every time you share that you are not a robot or to avoid robot energy, it has reframed how I view myself. I've learned to be kinder to myself, to dial back ridiculous expectations, embracing God's grace more than I ever have in my 40 years. Dina, that's so lovely. So for everyone, like think about how many years we go without hearing permission that we are not robots, you know, without being reminded that we live in different seasons and that we need to be kinder ourselves.

Like a lot of the school a long time without that being in the fabric of how we think. So I just love that we're all learning the same vocabulary so that we can share it with other people with kids and friends and more and more people, one person at a time can take that sole level deep breath of believing that they're not a robot and that they can be kind to themselves and they can live in their season. Like it's just such a lovely little movement that we're doing

over here. Okay, so here's some other principal favorites. This is from Jodie. Jodie says, "Kindra has taught me a lot of things, but one thing that has really helped me is to live in my season. Parenting is hard and when I'm frustrated with the stuff my 16 year old son leaves laying

“around or my 12 year old daughter's attitude, I remember to live in my season. I know Sunday I'll”

miss the trail of socks in my living room and the eye rolls." Jodie, I love the optimism. I don't know if I'll ever miss the eye rolls. I forget hey, eye rolls, but I also need to live in my season with that. Like it's such a good reminder that wherever you are, almost certainly is not going to last forever and that you can spot good that it's here right now, even with the eye rolls.

Bethany says, "I've learned to be kind to myself and love that your advice is never prescriptive.

One area that has given me so much peace is cleaning my house. I love it when you said in one episode, you get to decide how clean your house is." And that was a game changer for me,

live in my season, it's just not possible to have a house wherever room is clean all at the same time. I just don't stress about it anymore. I use the the tauty app that you recommended, and I love taking off the jobs when I get around to them, but I decide how clean my house says. I feel like you gave me the permission I needed to live in my season with grace and kindness. I love that Bethany, and for real, for real, all that app, it's spelled T-O-D-Y,

like tidy with an O, it's called Tottie. It is so great to help with chores that especially don't have a regular schedule, but it also works for ones that do. It's a great little app. All right, this one's from Barbara. Barbara says, "Decide once, hands down, has been my biggest takeaway. Thanks, Kendra. It saves me almost daily, cheers to 10 years." And Nicole says,

"My Decide once choice is, I always say, as to flowers, no matter what, if flowers are there,

I am there. I love that. I love all the different Decide once is that people have that make life just a little better. It's the small things that matter, obviously." This comment from Carly is a great wrap-up to the principles. She says, "I've been listening to the lazy genius podcast since

“before the first book." And I honestly feel like this is the home at class I needed. This isn't”

about how to make certain meals or do certain tasks, though change your life-chicken is a hundred percent legit and kitchen zones are a thing, but it's the thought process behind the home making, usable in any home setting. Single in an apartment, farmhouse with a kids, vacation rental for a sister's wedding. I can choose any of the 13 principles I need and apply them accordingly to feel like I'm creating kind environments for my crew while retaining my sanity. Carly, yes,

that is such a great description of this. What we do here, it helps you create kind environments, while retaining your sanity, where you can still get your stuff done. I love that. I love it. So my favorite principle, it changes all the time, but I think the one that has surprised me over the last couple of years, is let people in. I have historically been the one to help other people out, keep things kind of close to the vest and not share something I'm going through, especially if it's

not that hard. I can like always compare my circumstances to someone else's and find someone who's

going through something worse than I am, you know. But like, what could it is that? That isn't help anybody. I have some great friends who have helped cultivate this habit of like regularly sharing, whatever's going on, and it's really made my life so much richer. Letting people into the tiny hardships, the tiny celebrations, the tiny needs. It makes it more natural and easier to let them

“into the big stuff too. So my favorite principle will change again, of course, but right now I think”

it's let people in. All right, I have a whole slew of comments from you guys and they're so kind, you were so lovely to share them that I'm just going to like read a bunch for you now. We're going to keep reading some of these. These first few are some words about the one specific lazy genius thing that has stuck with you over time. This will be fun. This first one is for Mary Joe. It's better to pivot than to plan. It's my mantra now. I used to become anxious when plans changed

or didn't go according to plan, and now I don't. Yes, Mary Joe, that is the best pivot over plan. That's the big one for a lot of you, actually. Haley says, two minutes is not nothing. Zero minutes is nothing. And 15 minutes is a whole lot of something. You said that from in a recent episode that it's completely shifted the way I think about so many tasks. Zero minutes

“is the only thing that can be counted as nothing. Turns out I do a lot of somethings all day long.”

Kendra's constant compassion for herself, and that's lazy geniuses, means the world to me, and I'm sure there's so many others. Oh, thank you, Haley. Yes, the only thing that's nothing is zero minutes. And listen, sometimes we spend zero minutes, and that's okay, too. Like sometimes you need to not do anything. But deciding that a task doesn't count or isn't worth doing because it's too small or doesn't take very long while other things are waiting. All that does is keep you from

doing anything. Small steps, me and small strips, men or stars, small, love that. Here's a comment

from Tanya. One thing that has always stuck with me is tend to the necessary before it becomes urgent.

This is helped me see what is coming up and what needs to be done, so life doesn't feel rushed. I've noticed in my life that I do not like to feel rushed. But I do, I forget things, and I don't feel like the best version of myself. So I've learned to be kind to myself and embrace it. I've also learned that my kids do not like to feel rushed either, so this is led to new approaches in my parenting. My son now comes home on Monday, and we lay out his homework for the week,

and he makes a plan on how he wants to get it done, depending on his schedule. Now, it's not me

It's been a life changer for us over here. Thank you for all you do. You're a rock star and raising us rock stars under your wing. That's so great. I love this. Tanya, I'm the same. I do not enjoy being rushed, so it matters to tend to the necessary before it becomes urgent, so that I can avoid that feeling whenever possible. That's not true for everybody. Some people don't mind feeling rushed. Some people thrive when they're feeling rushed. So knowing yourself is super helpful

in learning how to manage your time. So I love that. And this one from Donna, about a saying that

stuck. The most important thing I've learned from Kendra is this. Every choice matters,

because each one matters is someone, but only hold the ones that matter to you. Thank you, Donna. Yeah, that's the crux of all of this, isn't it? It's like we're not going to measure our choices against other people's choices. We're also not going to judge and shame someone for doing something differently than we do, from getting table, from getting dinner on the table differently than we do, right? Every choice matters, because it matters to the person making

it and people matter. That's the whole central point of this. People matter. But since everything

“could matter, you have to hold onto what matters to you. You have to. You have no choice, really.”

Now, it's you're going to run yourself into the ground. All right, here are a few comments about like practical tips and ideas that have stuck around for you. So Rachel says, "The practical things I do thanks to you." Monthly meal planning, keeping laundry separate for each person. Man, that's a

game changer. Have to and hope to list or my favorite. And of course, the practice of acknowledging

what matters to me. I tell myself to be kind of myself pretty often. I notice when a task is actually a project so that I break it down and make it smaller. Rachel, that's like so many things. I love all of those and love that they're working for you. Brittany says, "Dust your bathroom before cleaning it." This was a light bulb moment for me and it just seems so obvious yet was not until you said it. That has changed by life. Y'all listen. I will scream it from the mountaintops forever.

"Dust your bathroom first." Drought a wit. It's just the wildest, most helpful thing that no one ever told me. I'm glad you love it, Brittany. Michelle actually loves it too. Here's Michelle's comment. I've learned the best, most efficient way to clean a bathroom thanks to you. It's all about doing

“things in the right order. Remember go in the right order? Is it a lazy jeans principle? I”

printed out your bathroom cleaning instructions and I put the paper in the bathroom cabinet. Whenever it's go time, I take out the sheet for a quick review, gather my materials and get started. To be printed out in someone's home and refer to when it is go time. It's like the highest order ever. Thank you Michelle. Caitlin says mine is a little silly but I literally say it to my husband every week and that is so I'll you're chicken more than you think. It has changed my

chicken so much. Caitlyn, yes you guys, so I'll you're chicken more than you think. These tiny little pinches you're doing. It's not going to cut it. It's not going to cut it. Eventually you are going to figure out like what enough is the more you do it. But salt you're chicken more than you think. Like I have a pillow with a word salt on it for a reason. All right Paula says lately I've embraced your magical nap formula. When I hit a wall, I know it's time for a Kendra nap. I put on my

timer, play a Spotify white noise playlist and more often than not I end up snoozing for five to 10 minutes. It's like it gives me red bowl wings without the chemicals. That's so great, Paula. That's great. Okay, Jodie says on a lighter note, Kendra taught me that a basket can fix a lot of problems. Since listening to Kendra, I've added a basket in my living room for blankets. I hamper and my downstairs bathroom for my son to throw his clothes in and most recently a small basket

on the counter for my daughter and husband's extra water bottles that don't fit in the cupboard.

“I like should I start a line of baskets, you guys? Like I think baskets can fix most things. Like”

truly, I'm so glad they've helped you Jodie. Okay, here's another one from Abby. One of the things that stands out to me is the cycles. I was a clean the whole house on the same day person, accepting the facts that there are multiple cycles that exist in a home and that they are never truly ever done has given me the permission to tend to them individually throughout the week when I have the time. I'm relaxing into the habit of noticing the specific things that call my

attention and targeting my time and energy on those things. Abby, this is great. Realizing that

you're never truly done is such a game changer and I'm so glad that framework has helped to make

housework a little easier to manage. It's just great. Okay, here are a couple of favorite episodes

we just never know what's going to resonate with people. What's fun is that sometimes certain

episodes stick with a listener for such a long time, which we love and it's why we also try to make like a wide variety of episodes, you know? Now, obviously we want to have variety and not make everybody bored, but everybody also needs different things. So it's such a privilege to be able to offer a lot of help and a lot of spaces, hoping that one of those episodes is going to stick with somebody, you know? So here are a couple of favorites from you guys. So Dima says episode 451,

permission to not be great is probably my favorite because it feels like such a beautiful summary

“of Kendra's message. Thank you, Dima. Actually, I think that's true. I think if you have someone”

in your life who you want to introduce to the idea of being a lazy genius, but you don't know where to start because again, there's so many episodes handing a person a book, especially a self-help book. I mean, that can be tricky, you know? Like it's a lot, but this episode could be a really great place to start because it is. It's like the best summary of the overall philosophy. So if someone listens to that, and they're like, well, then I'm not for them. And that's fine. So, but if they do love

it, then maybe I am, and then they can sort of explore. So episode 451 is a great place to start. I agree. Thank you for listening Dima. Okay, Brittany's favorite episode, everything from the

soup episode, go in the right order and season every layer. My soup game has never been so strong.

Yes, strong soup game. Should we have a t-shirt this has strong soup game? That would be also fun.

“I feel like I'm just creating merch over here. Ashley says, "How to go to the pool?"”

There was an episode a long time ago about going to the pool in the summer. I listened just there I time and we ended up making it the summer of pool time. We were there multiple times a week, all summer long. My whole family remembers that summer very fondly. And while we haven't ever made it as often as we did that summer since, it's still one of our favorite things to do. Ashley, I love that episode too. So I created it after a couple of years of struggling to figure

out how to take the kids to the pool, like kind of efficiently and make it easier. And now we still like we use pretty much all those ideas still. So thank you for listening. Okay, I've got three more comments to read. And then I'm actually going to play some audio comments from you guys just to kind of close this like love-fest part of this episode. It's just seriously, you guys. You all are just so kind and amazing. Okay, this one is from Beth. Kendra, I have learned so much from your podcast in

books that has made my life better in large and small ways. I'm a better pivoter. I tell myself to be kind to myself. And then I actually am. I have let go of things that I now see don't matter to me. I love my people better. I tried barrel jeans. They weren't for me, but my jeans exploration led me to my perfect cut. I read more. I stress less. I make better purchases. I pay attention to small beautiful moments. Beth, what a lovely comment. Thank you. Thank you so much.

Equally lovely is this one from Emily. It really does feel like you're my big sister,

which is helpful since I'm the first born. And I've always been the big sister, but never had

one myself. I recently considered accepting a full-time in-person job with a big commute in a highly professional environment. I didn't even want the job, but I asked myself, how can I make this work? What's the smallest problem? As I narrowed the problem to the hair or makeup and outfit routine every day, I thought maybe I could wash my hair less. Maybe I could get a capsule wardrobe. Maybe I could get my eyeliner tattooed on and there you were in my head. Emily, this isn't saying

you're not getting eyeliner tattooed on to accept a job that you don't even want. I would say that yes. She continues. I have a job. I like my job. The schedule works for my family. I could

“earn more money, but honestly, that doesn't matter as much to me. What matters is the energy”

required of me each day, and I just don't have the energy for this type of career change in the season of life. You taught me how to feel content where I am, and I'm forever grateful. Thanks, big sis. Valley genuinely makes me teary. It's just the sweetest thing. And I'm so glad you didn't get eyeliner tattooed on for a job you did not even want. And finally, this is from Natalie. I think the biggest thing I've learned is there are so many people out there in the world who

think like me, we're all too hard on ourselves and listening to Kendra every week makes me feel understood. Name what matters and start small are the two things I always come back to. I've named my hot dogs, air fried chicken nuggets in our home, and a brain down will help everything. There is no right answer, and we all deserve rest and joyful things in our life. Yes, Natalie, that is so

joyful things. It's so beautiful. Okay, here are some more comments that some of you share the of voice message. I love tearing your voices. So let's play those now. I've listened to the lazy genius podcast for about eight years, and I can honestly say it has been the best companion for some of life's greatest challenges and made room for some of life's greatest moments. I feel like the lazy genius principles and the concepts discussed on the podcast are the scaffolding

“that I've been able to like build a full life around deciding what matters most is the foundation.”

And deciding once is totally the pillars that are holding the house that is my chaotic life up, and these principles have walked through having a child with medical needs and disabilities. And my husband having a surgery and my kid starting school and deciding if I wanted to have another child, it's just been so such a, such a guide in creating a life that I have ownership over. And then I love. So thank you and happy 10 years. Hey, this is Rebecca Cruz in Houston, Texas,

and I've learned so much from the lazy genius collective. But I think the thing that resonates the most is decide once. Decision fatigue is real, and being able to just pick something like knowing you're go to Starbucks order or your favorite white wine, to have on a daily basis, has really saved me a lot of decision fatigue and be my wife better. So thank you, Kendra. Hi, Kendra. It's Susie calling from Tennessee. Kendra, I've learned so many things from you and my favorite.

One that I can think of right now is that if I wait to rest until after I get everything done,

I will never take a rest. And of course, that makes sense, but saying it out loud, hearing

“you say it, it was transformational for me because I was like, that's why I can never rest,”

because I've never been a place where everything's gotten done. And just realizing that I was going to spend a whole rest of my life not resting because nothing was ever going to be completed was just child dropping for me. So now I take a little rest in the afternoon and I'm good with the 15 to 35 minutes depending upon how the day goes. Sometimes even a little bit longer. Sometimes I don't go asleep, but usually I do and I'll read a little bit and close my eyes to a middle of

sound machine on and I wake up much better human. So thank you so much. Okay, so this is going to be the worst voicemail ever because I can't remember which episode it was, and I can't remember how long it go. It wasn't. I can't remember exactly what you said,

but it was one of the first podcasts that I ever listened to. And it was right after I had a child

and it was a list of 10 things, 10 things that I wish you knew about being a parent or 10 things. I wish somebody would have told me something along those lines and you said something like you will want to throw your baby across the room. That doesn't make you a bad parent. If you

“actually throw your baby across the room, that's what makes you a bad parent. And it was just”

this moment of levity I needed because being a new parent is so hard and my advice now for all first time moms is you can hate parenting and still love your child. I didn't love being a parent until my child was 14 months old and now I love being a parent but it took time. So anyway, that was just a super encouraging moment to me and it was a long time ago and I still love listening.

Thanks so much. Kendra, you are the big sister that I always needed and never had. I only had a

brother and like I could hear up because I love you so much and I can read in your voice and your inflection is just lovely and it just has done so much for me. I've listened probably the past four or five years but I need a shirt that says ask me how to be a lazy genius but my favorite things that I've learned from you are living your season which also goes with not everything can matter. If everything matters, nothing matters. So I just learned that I can't do it all right now

but that doesn't mean I can't do it all eventually in my season and the other thing is just tart small. Like if I can't clean off in a tire shelf or overhaul an entire room maybe I can just start with a shelf or a corner and it makes the biggest difference. Thanks for being who you are and everything

have a sister and so I appreciate your voice and my life in that manner. I thank you so much for

“your lazy genius principles. So many of them have helped me so much in my life. I would say learning to”

be kind to myself. Learning to pivot over plan and deciding once in budget have been the main lazy genius principles that have really reframed how I live my days in my life and I appreciate that. The playbooks have also been super helpful so I want to thank you and your team for all the hard work you do and the just how great you guys are at making things relatable to as many people as possible. I truly appreciate the work you do until congratulations on 10 years and thank you.

Hi Kendra, this is Allison from London and this is in response to your question. What have you

learned from the lazy genius podcast? So I hope I'm not too late with this but something that has really stuck with me from the podcast is the way that you framed so many things with the caveat

“if that matters to you because it is so easy when you hear something that feels like an”

objectively good thing to do to feel like you therefore should do it. When many times something nags inside me at least that's telling me that that apparently good thing is actually not something that's going to work for me and instead of overriding that feeling now I pause and I pay attention to it and ask myself why this thing that sounds good actually isn't something that I want to pursue at least for this season that I'm in and that's by the way another concept

that I love for me the whole living your season. So yeah love the reinforcement of the whole if that matters for you so regularly because it's really made it stick for me also random side note the kids heard me listening to an episode from the podcast years ago it was the one on how to

“lazy genius will laundry and you have since been known by the kids as the lady who teaches”

mummy how to do laundry. Thank you for all you do, Kendra. Hi I'm Mallory I live in Connecticut and I regularly evangelize the lazy genius uh cinematic universe. I'm a very skilled type A plus planner achiever and all of the lazy genius principles have impacted my life in some way but most critically your teachings have given me the tools to pivot. I used to go off the deep end as soon as a plan started going sideways and now I'm equipped to pivot either creatively

coming up with an alternative on the fly or more often throwing my hands up in the air and saying this isn't a failure it's a pivot it's figure outable. Thank you for the piece this has settled within me and by extension in my home and relationships uh keep up the good work or pivot to just okay work if good work is too tough some days thanks. Oh my goodness you guys also I love the phrase lazy genius in a medic universe. Oh that's so great um thank you for all

of those incredibly kind thoughtful words that you shared it's everybody from just written comments to those voice messages it's um yeah it's just really moving and I'm truly humbled by being able to a be a helpful kind voice in your ears to be the big sister that you don't have it's it's just really spectacularly special it's just a great honor in my life and I am so grateful um so that last that last comment too about like keep up the good work or don't just I appreciate that permission

it's so great um that's actually a great segue just briefly into sharing what's next for the podcast

and the answer is I don't know I don't know specifically I know that we don't have plans to stop

anytime soon uh I mean I never would have thought we would make a show for 10 years and it's hard to imagine making it for another 10 but also we've made the show for 10 years and we have no signs of stopping uh this is one of the reasons why this is like so uh specific but we just love when you fill out the annual survey that we do because it helps us know what episodes you love what formats you want to see again what we can leave behind like your feedback can it makes the show

better over time and it's gonna pivot again I'm sure it will so I want to keep making a show that you love to listen to for as long as I'm supposed to do this and I hope that's a long time I hope we can make a lot more episodes so thank you you guys thank you so much for celebrating 10 years with me I am just overwhelmingly grateful to all of you

this summer we are obviously in the beginning of May but I can feel summer coming my boys told

“me their exam schedules the other day and they're both done with school more than a week before the”

official end of school so summer's coming even more quickly than I anticipated and I already felt pretty quick but there are a couple of things that I'm looking forward to in this new season with different rhythms so one is that it's a summer of getting a kid with a driver's license Sam is almost done with his hours he will be taking his test at some point the summer hopefully he passes it you guys send your strongest thoughts and prayers our way plus Ben my milk kid he's gonna start

drivers head this summer so it's two drivers what different limits but two drivers I am undone

but this development however the idea of a kid being able to take another kid somewhere

of Sam just like going out with his friends or driving himself to a saxophone lesson I am thrilled by this so excited now I have no doubt that I am going to like miss it but I also am like what am I gonna do myself this is so exciting another thing I'm looking forward to the summer's pool time we love our little pool some of our best buddies are there the pool is shaded I am obsessed with shade and the summer even at a pool I need to protect my skin and prevent sweating at all costs please

“I think what I'm looking forward to the most about the pool is that it just slows me down nothing”

slows me down like an afternoon at the pool since I typically live at the pace of a caffeinated squirrel the pool and the summer is like a long sabbatical from hurry and I just really love it and then the other thing I'm looking forward to the summer is produce give me all the strawberries all the tomatoes all the okra all the watermelon summer produce is outrageously enjoyable for me it's like all my favorite things I'm gonna put so many miles on my car going to our favorite farm for

produce every single week I'm gonna eat so many tomatoes sandwiches y'all you're not even ready I do it the correct southern way white bread mayonnaise salt and pepper tomato that's it like don't get fancy that's all you need I mean you know what you want but it does not matter what other tomato sandwich concoction you swear by I'm not gonna choose it I'm don't you you can email me but I will not take your advice even if you're like trust me now I'm sorry I'm sorry

I have I have tried other things I have tried menu cheese I have tried American cheese I've put a

rule on it you know you're basically making a BLT I wanted to made a sandwich with just mayonnaise tomato

salt and pepper on white bread we don't test it we don't do sourdough you you can you can but I will not and we can all eat our tomato sandwiches in our own way in juicy piece okay so having a driver slowing down at the pool and all the summer produce that I can hold that is what I'm looking forward to this summer and that is today's a little extra something and now for the lazy genius of the week this week's tip comes from Ashley Bannon Ashley writes I have two little

boys a two-year-old and an eight-month-old bless you Ashley and our bedrooms are upstairs most mornings I'm solo because my husband leaves early which means I'm juggling a baby on my hip holding my toddlers hand down the stairs and somehow trying to carry bottles from overnight dinosaur toys the must come downstairs changes of clothes my phone you get the picture yes technically I could make two trips but anyone in this season knows that finding time to walk back upstairs alone is not

simple so I implemented a decide once solution I picked a cute bag that I don't mind singing out and I keep it hanging on a hook on my floor length mirror every morning I load it with everything I need to carry downstairs during the day it lives neatly on a closet hook and at night on my way upstairs I refill it with bottles toys that need to migrate back up and whatever else tomorrow morning me will need it feels small but it answers that magic question what can I do now to make my life easier

later it keeps things contained prevents the back and forth chaos and helps me function in the suite but exhausting season without an extra mental load small shift big difference this is tremendous Ashley this is like my favorite type of lazy genius idea to share it's not some grand solution there's no massive system here it's just a bag it's just a bag it's pretty enough to be out which it doesn't have to be but also that helps that it's a bag that's pretty enough to be

“out that holds what you need to go up and on the stairs I did something like this with a basket”

in our old house when we had stairs but this is so much better actually because I would still have to carry the basket on one hip while carrying a kid on the other so the tow bag idea is so much smarter because you just put it on your shoulder there's no real extra work but it's so much easier enjoy things like this y'all like solve tiny problems with tiny solutions and you will feel like a lazy

genius of the week and now for a many pep talk for when you don't know if you're making the right

“decision so this feels quite relevant today because the lazy genius podcast as an idea I could have”

been a poor decision like even if I felt like it was the thing to do I didn't I didn't know if it would work I didn't know if going to a solo show would work if joining in at work would work if change in the forum at to include nanny pep talks and lazy geniuses of the week and little extra some things if that would work but I also think we often measure how good or right a decision is

by whether or not it works and I don't think that's always the rubric I've learned this from

Emily P. Freeman who is the expert on soulful decision making we measure how successful a decision is in such binary ways but just because you made a choice that didn't stick around as far down the road as you thought it doesn't necessarily mean you made their own choice I am such a

“believer in the philosophy you never step in the same river twice you're not the same person and it's”

not the same river whatever choice you make it's going to have consequences of course but sometimes things that don't work out on paper they make us better people you become stronger and more confident from mistakes and we're turns then you do from everything going right you know we all know that we learn better from mistakes so why do we get so bent out of shape over making a choice that didn't work out like we expected of course we all do it I do it too but I think it helps

if the measuring stick changes just like you don't measure your day by how productive you are but rather live your day as a grounded integrated person you don't have to measure the success of a decision by how well it went when we wonder and worry if something was right it can keep us distracted from seeing the good that is here now the obsession with rightness it can prevent us from being serene and open-handed in a hard season that might have some beautiful things to

teach us things that we might want to release so if you don't know if you made the right decision

first I'm gonna say just add Emily P. Freeman to the voices that you listen to she will help

“guide you in the decision from start to finish and second remember that a successful decision”

doesn't have to be measured in the way you might think focus more on becoming a whole integrated grounded person no matter the results of your decisions and you'll likely find more confidence when you make them and more peace when you don't know what will happen next and that's the many pep talk for when you don't know if you made the right decision if this episode was helpful to you or if you have been looking for a way to support the show please share this episode with someone

that you know or you can leave a kind review on apple podcasts every mention and share it makes a difference in turning more people until easy geniuses can get us through another two years so thank you for being so supportive this podcast is part of the Odyssey family and the office lady's network this episode is hosted by me kinder edachi and executive produced by kinder edachi genifisher and angelicansie special thanks to Leah Jarvis for weekly production and this week to kerosmith

for gathering and organizing all of the kind submissions that you guys sent in if you'd like a podcast recap over the week be sure to sign up for the latest lazy listen see mail that goes out every other Friday head to the lazy geez collective dot com slash listens to get it thanks y'all for listening and until next time be a genius about the things that matter and lazy about the things that don't i'm kandre i'll see you next week

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