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Dr. Vin Gupta on Trump's Health Amid the Iran Crisis

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump’s health collapsing during his escalation of the war in Iran and Meiselas interviews Meidas Health leader Dr. Vin Gupta.  Remember to subsc...

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Think about the 31st Newly?

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By the way, the 31st Newly is going on. Donald Trump's health is rapidly collapsing. His cognitive and physical health, in my opinion, deteriorating before our eyes.

Now, from Europe to East Asia to South America, their domestic news outlets are calling

this out. It's really been escalating in the press after the horrific NATO summit, but especially right now, was Donald Trump will say things like, "I am the Guardian of Hormuz." And I am here by declaring 20% of the value of your ships. You pay to my mafia protection, Guardian of Hormuz.

Then people are like, "Guardian of Hormuz, what in the world are you talking about?" Then the next day, he will post the exact opposite. I have just spoken to my friends in the Middle East. I am no longer the Guardian of Hormuz instead. They will be investing trillions of dollars more than the trillions they've already invested.

And that's what I will do. But I will keep the blockade on. And then he post these weird photos of himself and Xi Jinping. Just also in the Oval Office, he keeps adding more gold. Now he has golden presidential seals that have been added and the whole thing just looks

so utterly bizarre and clearly his physical and cognitive deterioration in my opinion is on his mind, especially with the death of Lindsey Graham, Donald Trump saying that he believes in the racehorse theory and Lindsey Graham's father died also at the exact same age, which is notable because Donald Trump's father got Alzheimer's, or was diagnosed with Alzheimer's.

Right around the age that Donald Trump is now, and then Fred Trump, Donald Trump's that rapidly deteriorated and exhibited basically the exact type of symptoms and things that were seeing present themselves with Donald Trump.

But here's what Trump said about Lindsey Graham.

Let's play it.

It's hard to digest about it the same age from, you know, I believe in the racehorse theory, you know, if you have problems, you have problems and he had some problems that were a little bit deep seated and not easy to find.

So as I know, in various countries across the world, this is main stream coverage right now. So Frances Limone and Germany's ARD, Japan's NHK, Brazil's O Global, they're all talking about, why does this guy keep talking about cognitive exams and bragging about it? Did you see the way that guy looked at, what does why is he behaving this way? So let's take a look at India, the Hindu and Indian TV networks. They're talking about Donald Trump turning 80 and concerns around his physical transparency and just straightforwardness, coverage in New Delhi and Mumbai emphasized.

These sharp contradictions in his medical reporting, noting that while Trump claims everything checked out perfectly, it appears independent medical experts in US congressional inquiries are openly questioning why a supposedly healthy individual requires frequent advanced imaging like CT scans Indian Alice's frame his insistence on having a multiple cognitive screenings as a calculated political defense mechanism against questions regarding his physical endurance in Japan and NHK. Asahi Shimboon, but they're talking about how in Japanese political culture where leadership transition and public presentation are highly choreographed and risk a far ahead of state repeatedly publicizing reliance on multiple semi-annual medical screenings and cognitive checks suggest internal and administrative anxiety rather than standard upkeep.

Even the progressive daily Asahi Shimboon and frames Trump's defensive social media post as potential indicators of an unignalaged underlying problem raising institutional questions about long-term cognitive ability. In France, Le Monde and France, 24, they're talking about his recent behavior as social media statements. Why does he keep saying he's taking the mocha cognitive exam over and over again? French TV panels interpret Trump's public fixation on perfect scores as a defensive political distraction designed to mask visible physical slowing and structural questions regarding his long-term executive endurance in Germany.

They keep talking about how Donald Trump keeps trying to brag about his extreme intelligence is highly unusual for a sitting head of state and his insistence of a perfect bill of health is raising lots of red flags.

I want to bring in Dr.

It's hard to think about other parallels where you can point to like a real world leader who's because of the health issues that are being presented pose an existential kind of threat to like everybody you know in the entire world right now. And so they're all talking about it right now. What you and I have been talking about for a while and talk about what you've been noticing recently as well because from NATO to now it just seems to be presenting more in my opinion, but what do you see?

Yeah, I mean Ben is always going to be with you and we I think I've been covering this you and I responsibly with the usual qualifications that I'm not as physician I haven't diagnosed him with an in person exam.

So just to get that out of the way there is no question and I have heard all sorts of commentary from afar justifying his behavior as just reflective of his age all the way to you know harser criticisms and loving diagnoses.

I think we can ask very reasonable questions and in an 80 year old that's behaving the way he is, which is, for example, confusing the country of Iran which a pen I mean I think we all saw that.

Increasing verbal errors and confusion changes in coherence. I mean these long digressions that you know as in another as well as just post verbatim on Twitter. I mean people can just go and see the dialogue. You know he's trailing off he's he's not completing sentences he's a tangential thought all sort of wrapped up in one long non in complete sentence his physical changes that are you know obvious that seem like they're getting. Accelerating and so I it's hard not to to to ask the question why somebody like him why aren't we talking about it more I not you and me but why isn't there more of chorus here the way there was with the former president and does he have capacity to engage in that required executive functioning that you need to be in the highest office in the land and I and I think that.

You know for if we're being objective and if you know his supporters were being objective.

If the former president say president Biden order to make some of the verbal miscuse that the current president is doing we be talking about it endlessly you know general confusing.

I believe he confused general electric with general motors just the other day can't even imagine the upper that that would have happened if it was that former president so.

There's a different standard one to I think we should ask questions about capacity does he have the capacity to engage in high level thinking and high level decision making.

That is consequential for the country and for the people of other nations across the world I have serious concerns there and I think any reasonable person after now witnessing this decline over the last 18 months should have a similar set of at least concerns and questions and then yes he does nothing to reassure. You know taking repeated mocha test he continues to talk about this and you know I imagine his physicians and the people around and I've actually probably I'm assuming they've likely told him that is not adequate defense that's not an adequate flex it's not intending what you think it's intending and therefore it's actually making you look weaker.

He's probably just doing this of his own volition and again that's the problem here you just need to have the capacity to understand what could be an adequate defense to justify his performance and all these miscus.

I give you a perfect example so he's doing an interview the other day it's right wing media host tells Trump you're going to take out pickaxe mountain in Iran you're going to do it right that's what we want you to do.

And then Trump hears it and then he goes we're going to take out pickaxe you know they better watch out and pickaxe mountain. And what people often say is that the last person who speaks to him or whoever it is you know we'll put the idea and then he'll just go and he'll adopt it and then he'll use it and then he'll go on with it. Then somebody else says something and then he goes with it and somebody else goes something and it's why I mean I think we have that clip let me just show you this one if we got it.

And we will do that we're going to take out pickaxe mountain tell the Iranian...

Okay and now think about that when Putin gives him a call and then Solinsky wants to call and then Putin calls after and then NATO calls after and then Xi Jinping calls after and then he's just you know and and and then Netanyahu says to him when he's in Turkey they want to you know Iran wants to kill you Iran wants you know which also seems to have put in motion. The the ending of the MOU you could almost kind of trace to somebody telling Trump they want to kill you and then he had that they want to kill me I'm on their list I'm on their list and that was kind of you know implanted you know and so I think the big kind of issue though here to your point on executive function though is.

Is impacting it seems that this is what the world was see decision making like it's impacting everybody's lives.

I mean high level decision making executive functioning and assessing that then. That is not assessed through the Montreal cognitive assessment, Moka that that's a scrappy tool to assess sort of early stages of cognitive decline dementia it cannot assess. What kind of cognitive dysfunction like your executive functioning to have proper decision making capabilities can you be leader of the free world do engage and clear thought can you articulate. A point of view without having verbal miscus all the time and you know seemingly being confused.

These are things that we're all witnessing that these are factual observations and if you want to deny them or cast them off seen anybody all sorts of folks.

Explain it away as it's normal aging and that he's you know. Very unpredictable and this is who he's been and you know yada yada. I find those to be insufficient explanations and then yes I to your point broader point on his own physicians and none of this should be partisan. At all we should have a set standard set of expectations about what. We as the public should know about presidential health.

Medical records now given the president's especially the last few presidents should be a matter of public record the should not be up to the editorializing and wins of the White House medical team and the chief of staff and the president and myself.

This should be a matter of public record because it is consequential to your point and you know we're seemingly getting these disconnected. And then you know alarm across the world because nothing is making sense and so none of this should be partisan and I mean I hate to say it because I don't want to cast as versions on folks in my own profession. But nothing that his team his own medical team is doing. It quits them well that they know what they're doing that they're competently managing the president's health so either they're not able to redirect him.

And if that's the case why not just leave the position and you know come and talk with your reputation.

But if that's not the case and what are they doing you know it's a series of gaff after gaff and just confusing decision that does not equip them as being credible physicians.

Finally I want to talk about another.

The main massive public health issue because the screening tools seen seem have been eliminated and there seems to be a causal relationship there. You know people are learning about this explosive diving there's a medical name for it but basically this explosive diary on different types of food. And there was detection methods and things that were. You know push to side you know during the whole purges that we saw early on talk talk talk to us about what this is how big a deal of it is what should people know.

I mean part of the issue here Ben I mean in for our audience this is the. Explosive diary I quote unquote outbreak that's happening now over 40 states double the case count and just a matter of say 72 hours I mean it's you know kind of. Giving us yes or eerie reminders of early days of you know five years ago these case counts just climbing log rhythmically. This is not a pandemic this is not the same thing but here there's some similar overtones here of leadership that's not being the moment leadership that's perhaps making it a lot worse.

Because they don't know what they're doing and you know we thought disinvestments and public health might have impacts maybe a few years on the road. But now we're seeing that this stuff is happening in real time Ben they.

A Kennedy and his team disinvested the food born disease surveillance team they basically gathered at the CDC what does that team do it specifically looks.

It causes cyclists barises i.

In warmer climate so of course in the summer we're going to see cases and that that's not unusual we see cases.

Every single summer what we don't normally see is 10 x the number of cases in places like Ohio and Michigan that we're tip that we're seeing now we're seeing a dramatic increase in cases people severely ill dehydration especially those are elderly or immunocompromised. It can be very very serious but typically we didn't really talk about it you and I wouldn't be talking about this last summer summer prior especially because we had a CDC team that was in place that could detect spikes and say cyclists for a before became a full fledged.

I think that's the state outbreak and that is no longer the case because here's why that CDC team no longer is actually tracking.

Incident cases of cyclists or be before it becomes a full fledged crisis specifically are now looking at that now looking at other bacteria like coli but they didn't have the resources to look and track cyclists for us so one wonders why are we talking about this well direct causal line.

I think we're going to say in three to five to ten years we thought those decisions would impact us say in three to five to ten years it's impacting us within you know prior to even the midterms.

And so what let me just close by saying what the people need to know.

My advice would be I don't think you have to avoid produce there's some advice out there saying just avoid all produce for the foreseeable future that feels extreme to me just wash your produce if you're going to eat green leafy vegetables wash it.

At least for thirty seconds, make sure you're doing it in the strainer give it a good rinse if you're elderly if you were immunocompromised if you're medically fragile you know on multiple medications. My recommendation that specific case would be to avoid fresh produce like raw leafy lettuce and cook it just cook your produce for the foreseeable future until we can get a handle on what the origin is it looks like we're maybe headed towards that. Understanding then just cook it if you're if you're medically higher risk and then when to seek a medical provider I think that's really critical as well again few days of GI symptoms of watery diarrhea that is not abating.

If you're not able to keep any fluids downben and if you're medically higher risk so again a few days of symptoms not able to keep any fluids down getting dehydrated and you're some of the aesthetically high risk so older than 65 underlying medical condition on an immunosuppressed medication. Please speak to your medical provider there is treatments specific antibiotics that can treat cyclospora but early testing early treatment really vital to keep you out of the hospital or God forbid any other complications something to keep in mind and you know last sales to say.

Where is the messaging from this administration on any of what we just talked about there's effectively nothing.

And so just something to keep in mind.

It's exactly what I was about to say what you just said there. By itself can be immensely helpful to people. A protecting themselves and because this Trump regime is so focused yet again on covering it up and acting like they're not responsible for it. It's it reminds me a lot of COVID don't test and there's no cases pretend it doesn't exist and it's not there. And it's impacting people and just because you don't acknowledge it doesn't mean that it's not impacting people and it's why you and I do these segments also because you know fortunately we have a really big audience here and you know we can talk about topics like this as well.

You know and get the knowledge out to people and hopefully this is something that people will follow and they'll be you know and and they'll take some steps you know to help protect themselves stock thinks is always. I'm here that's Dr. Ben Gupta from Midas Health you can check out more from the Midas Health podcast and shows that we release Dr. Gupta leads that and then make sure you subscribe here let's get to 7 million subscribers.

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