Hayden Panettiere’s Alleged Overdose, Jenna Ortega’s SHOCKING Weight, & Anna Faris’ Sketchy Behavior

We have so much to discuss today.

“The top story, the death of actress Aiden kind of here, days from her 37th birthday.”

The mother of an 11-year-old girl. We're learning a fair amount about the cause of her death, the circumstances of her death. There will be more to uncover, but we're also going to cover this in a very nervous way, which is to say that we're going to talk about a celebrity/media industrial complex that

props these people up, these celebrities, who are known to be in crisis.

The morning that this story broke, so this story broke on Monday morning, it broke actually, I'm sorry, it broke Sunday night, most people woke up to it on Monday morning.

“The very same morning on the today show, I wish I could say and disbelief, but this”

is pretty much the way it goes and has been from the beginning of Hollywood. There was an actress, a famous one, sitting on that sofa with three of her co-stars promoting their forthcoming movie. And she was clearly my opinion, my opinion, off her fucking head on drugs, grinding her teeth, tongue jutting out, jaw jutting out, glassy-eyed, slurring her words. We've covered this on the nerve before, very recently, we've talked about

Natasha Leone, who tweeted, she's off the fucking wagon, hey, Brad Pitt's off the fucking wagon, leave him alone, Amanda Bines, just last week we talked about Ariana Grande, who's still on tour? Her team hasn't pulled her off tour, now she's still on tour, there's still money to be made. This is a very, very deep, pervasive, stubborn, cultural sickness, and I don't know what it's going to take for producers, you know, just start with one, you know,

I would love it if they're, if an executive producer at the today show was alerted by whatever PA was in the green room before that segment, hey, one of, one of our guests seems out of her mind, like she does not seem in any shape to go on. I would love it if that EP would go to the public system, say, she's, she's, she's not camera ready, she can't do it, we're not going to put her on, we're going to put her on and pretend this is normal

and pump it into the cultural bloodstream and have viewers at home go, well, she must be fine, right? Like if I'm seeing what I'm seeing and hearing what I'm hearing, yes, we are,

“we are, that's why the nerve is here. Okay, real talk about fake people. Hey, an impound”

it here, she was out here just a few months ago and we talked about it on the nerve, she wrote a memoir about how she was sick and now she's all better. And to my mind, my opinion, she's on shows, the likes of Jay Shetty, that big fucking fraud, my opinion, self-actualizer, looking and sounding under the throes of serious substance abuse. Should we be shocked that she's dead? No, she was on the view, same thing, looked and sounded like she was under

the influence. Did any of those women raise so much as an eyebrow? No, I pretend everything's fine. Everything's fine. By the way, she's got something to sell. So, you know, we're just going to help her vlog it. Lies, lies, lies, lies. We're going to talk about this. We're going to talk about a couple of Hollywood memoirs that are very recent memoirs. I love that talk about this very, very stubborn sickness and a Hollywood icon who I came across this film over the weekend,

probably my third or fourth time watching it and it's so relevant. It's so germane to everything

we're talking about. I cannot wait to get into this with all of you and then we are going to

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death overdose evidence found at scene. From the report, TMZ, and a quote we've confirmed, through sources in Greenville, South Carolina, that Narcan was found in the apartment where Hayden died. Narcan is administered nasally to reverse the effects of an opioid overdose.

And we are told the device used to dispense it was found on a mattress. We know first responders

on the scene mentioned an overdose and CPR efforts while reporting back to dispatch. This report would seem to indicate that the Narcan belonged to the residents of set apartment, which we have been told. The reports are Hayden was staying there. It was her apartment, her boyfriend lived there. Very problematic eye has a wrap sheet for domestic violence for beating the shit out of this woman who is barely five feet tall and weighed 117 pounds. And his brother, the real winner circle over

there. TMZ Hayden Pannetier, autopsy, shows no signs of trauma, published August 17th. This is according to the Greenville County Coroner's Office. I'm going to pause for a note here.

“I believe that is meant to disubuse anyone of the notion that the boyfriend had beat her as he”

had previously. But they did, first responders did administer physical CPR when they responded

to that scene and it's not like you see on TV or in the movies. Physical CPR has to be administered with such force that it often breaks bones in the ribcage. So I think there may be trauma on that body. I mean her whole life was a trauma. Her whole life was a trauma. Her mother got her into modeling and she was 11 months old. We're going to talk a lot about this and these kinds of stage mothers in a little bit. And we're going to talk about this, the layers of this story and how a Hayden

Pannetier becomes a star and then decompensates with Rob tomorrow night. Of course, it's not

going to see on the access Hollywood's the entertainment tonight's in people magazine. You know the

“drill. What a tragedy. Oh, she struggled. As she seemed on the upswing, she released a memoir.”

She was doing great. They're all in on perpetuating the lies. They're all in on it. Nobody wants to go deep and nobody wants to tell the truth. Here are images of Hayden smoking and partying with Paris Hilton when Hayden was just 15 years old. This is from August 2005. I mean, she looks like a little girl Hayden, you know. And she is. She is. She's only 15. I mean, Paris Hilton looks like she's

dancing on a stripper pole there. We now know that Paris was very, very troubled. She has since been

doing a lot of very good work in front of Congress and in media talking about the reform school she was sent to for troubled girls and the sexual abuse she was subjected to there. What horrific hell holes a lot of those places are. You know, back then in 2005, those girls, the Paris is the Hayden. They were all over page six of the wild child. They're partying. They're doing this. They're doing that. You know, like it was fun. Like it was something to be kind of like mock

outraged by, you know, these bad girls. These were really troubled girls crying out for help.

“What the fuck is a 15-year-old girl doing partying at a nightclub, smoking cigarettes?”

I'm sure she was drinking. I'm sure drugs were involved. What the actual fuck? As I've said before, that should be the news coverage. What the actual fuck? People Hayden paneteer, suffered a parent overdose, was unresponsive as quote, "advanced life support was administered before death, police officers and EMS personnel responded at a residence in Greenville, South Carolina, at around 150 pm local time." On Sunday, August 16th, says the Greenville Police

Department, two people. So, she clearly was doing drugs from the time she woke up. In her memoir, she wrote about when she was on the show Nashville, the ABC Prime Time soap opera Nashville. She wrote that she would get up at six in the morning and drink fireballs. Drink hard liquor, so she could get to work. She overdosed in the middle of the day on a Sunday. I mean, that's grim. We're going to look at the apartment complex in which she lived,

the Judson Mill Lofts in Greenville, and this angle of those Lofts, the windows are bricked up. I mean, it's the perfect metaphor, the perfect metaphor, from the Hollywood reporter published May 14th of this year. Just a few months before her death, Hayden Panetier on being groomed to be a child star. I was like a little soldier. She was asked about feeling pressure

“and where does it come from? Is it from a studio? Is it from a network? Is it from herself?”

Her answer? I think it's the way I was raised. I was groomed. Very loaded word. She knows exactly

what she's saying. She continues. I was like a little soldier and I always have been no was never an

option. It was just, here are your scenes, here is your dialogue, memorize it, hit the marks, do what your director tells you to do. I took my marching orders. Working from the age of 11 months old, Hayden Panetier on red table talk, members of her team, giving her what she says, they called "Happy Pills" at the age of 16. September 28th, 2022, here we go. With somebody who was on my team that I was working with, came to me and it was before this red carpet

and I've been doing heroes and we did press all the time and I was a little low energy and it was

as like a bad thing or a drug. I was 16 and it must have been something that was similar to an

arrow but they got it from Mexico. I should have thought that's so sketchy but I didn't because I trusted the person and it did give me that little bit of energy and I didn't feel like high and out of control but I did feel like happy and like I was looking forward to doing it for the party.

“Yes, I do remember asking them for some for personally use and then somebody else found out and let”

me know how bad that was. Look at Kelly Osborn's face, she knows, she knows none of those women at

the table, Jada Pinkett Smith, her mother, looked remotely shocked by this. It's another day in the

industry. Give a teenage girl a legal drugs to make sure she looks happy on the press tour. Hayden and Michelle Traptonberg were castmates in Disney's Ice Princess which was released on March 18th 2005 now both of them are dead. Michelle died last year. I mean, it's such an epidemic. It's hard to keep track. This poor woman was 39 years old. She was found dead in her apartment in New York City. Press reports, the official cause of death complications from diabetes.

But she had struggled with drug and alcohol addiction and it was fucking hardcore and people in the industry knew. Everybody knew Rosie O'Donnell. Here she is on entertainment tonight. One year ago talking about Michelle who Rosie met when Michelle was a child actress and they were co-starring together in Harry at the spike. Here's Rosie on the toothless entertainment tonight. But at least Rosie's telling some truth. Here we go. Michelle Traptonberg passed away a few weeks ago and

you said you wish you could have helped her. How special was your bond? Listen, that little little girl. Not the question, Kevin. No. I want to see the whole world and I want to write down everything. And that movie Harry at the spike. She was just epic and that was a book that meant a lot to me when I was a little girl and I just loved her and we reconnected about three years ago and we would talk on the phone and you know she was struggling. She in a lot of ways. How special was your

bond is not the fucking question? The question to Rosie is how was this girl

“allowed to struggle for so long? At what point do you think the industry got to her?”

What do you know about this? How endemic is this? Again, Rob and I, we're going to have yet another conversation about how this machine works. And you know, as we just as we all discussed last week about Ariana Grande, I think it's beyond clear that nobody in Ariana Grande's life gives a flying fuck about whether she lives or dies. Hey, if she dies, they're going to make even more money because an artist catalog goes up in value. We saw it with Elvis. We saw it with Michael Jackson.

In May, Heden's book, her memoir, this is me a reckoning was published. On May 11th, Heden

“panetier appeared on Jay Shetty's podcast on purpose. I think Jay Shetty is a total fraud”

because she's talking here about going into treatment. And she sounds as emotionally dead as Selena Gomez does when she speaks. Whether Selena's giving an interview or she's acting.

Selena is like this. It's always another. And Heden is talking like that. She's talking as if she

is completely detached from the business of being alive. And she is affect less seems to be slurring her words. She doesn't look all there and Jay Shetty's sitting there. Like she's really telling, she's really telling the truth and that she's really better. You know, we're going to look

would do it on my own and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And there's just zero push back here we go.

I mean, the idea that anybody would think that I would just give away my child and be okay with it is heartbreaking. Couldn't be further from the truth. You know, as you said, I was, I was struggling with mental health and anxiety and the postpartum and having to act my way through it and just

“feeling like I completely lost myself. And I think a misconception is that I have been in the past”

forced into treatment when, in fact, I have been the one who has sought it out, who was saying

I desperately need help. I don't, you know, I know this is going to look terrible, but I am, I cannot live like this anymore. We talked about Hayden and these media appearances on our nerve that aired on June 9th. And the damage that is done when people, like Jay Shetty, don't acknowledge what's going on right in front of them and what they are putting right in front of us as if this

is normal. Here we go. I worked so hard to create this incredible life and career and I

“printed all to the ground. Don't believe what you see in a picture. There's so much more going on”

so much more. For the first time I was able to put into words what has been going on for the past decade. I was going to ask if I could read it. I really appreciate it. Okay. Jay, why don't you ask her why she's slurring her words? May 2nd, 2019 Hayden Pannetier's boyfriend Brian Hickerson who was with her, it seems, when she died, was arrested on suspicion of domestic violence. So there's a question here as to how Hayden overdosed. My mind, just my opinion,

page six report from May 3rd, 2019 Brian Hickerson arrested for suspicion of battery from the report Hayden's boyfriend was arrested for domestic violence following an incident at their home. Again, the word incident is far too minor. It's far too polite. LA PD arrested. This loser at 225 a.m. He was booked at 615 a.m. page six got the LA County Sheriff's Department records of set arrest. He was released later that day on $50,000 bond.

Pannetier and Hickerson were drinking in Hollywood on Wednesday night before getting into a physical altercation at their home TMZ reports. Hey, a grown man puts hands on a woman who barely clears five foot, five feet tall. That's domestic violence. It's not a physical altercation or altercation is the brain trust over at entertainment tonight would say. Her boyfriend was arrested. Again, a year later in this 2020 report from TMZ, Hayden Pannetier boyfriend arrested for domestic

violence again allegedly punched her published on February 18th. He's off to jail again for allegedly putting her putting hands on her this time in Wyoming, this time on Valentine's Day another

“230 in the morning arrest. How do you think these two are so lit up at 230 in the morning?”

He struck her according to the TMZ report and I quote with a closed fist on the right side of her face according to police. This girl had nobody. I don't think she had anybody. When deputies arrived, they found Brian in the driveway, according to docs obtained by TMZ, he allegedly told them Hayden was in the house, quote, saying, "He beat the fuck out of me." Here's his mugshot.

things are cries for help. I do, you know, she was once an actress who was critically acclaimed,

“she was on one very big hit show called Heroes, another middling show but it showcased her talent,”

her range, her singing ability, Nashville, and now she's with this loser getting in a massive brawl, like a physical fucking street fight outside the sunset marquee in LA. This is from March 24th, 2022 and that female voice you hear yelling, "I will school your ass, that's Hayden." And watch, once the fight moves to the ground on the street, look at Hayden, you'll see her, the bottom left of your screen on the concrete, trying to tripping, actually tripping successfully, one of the people

in this brawl, this is not her first, this is not her first street fight, trust you me, here we go.

The red arrow is plinking at the door. I'm going to get her out, I'm going to get her out, I'm going to get her out, I'm going to get her out, I'm going to get her out.

“Someone's dragged her away but she gets back in there. That's her, I think, really fucking asshole.”

Watch her stripping somebody, she brought them to the ground, she blocks five foot tall, she brought it, there she is, that's enough, that's enough. I mean, she should have been arrested for that, how degrading, just how humiliating, you're in a drug-fueled alcohol-fueled bar room brawl that spills over into the street that somebody sold, the footage of to TMZ, you're brawling, like you're, like you're a fucking common criminal,

Jenna Ortega, who exploded into the mainstream for her performance in Netflix's Wednesday.

Made headlines last week for her alarming appearance in Esquire. Esquire, first bringing

us Brad Pitt's revelation that he's drinking again, that'll end well, my opinion. Esquire magazine, headline, this is the wrong headline. I'm going to read you this headline and then when I read you her quote, the quote is the headline, not this bullshit. Again, the celebrity media industrial complex at work trying to distract Jenna Ortega won't stop taking risks reads the headline, no matter how big Wednesday gets, published August 11th, 2026. Esquire

put the video portion of this up, they made it available, and this is horrific. This is horrific. Jenna Ortega says that she was just so happy to be hired for any given acting job.

“And I don't think this is hyperbole, I believe it, because it's a humiliating thing to admit to.”

She says that she would as a little girl, she would go all day on set without eating or drinking, because she didn't want anyone to think she was a problem. Where do you think she got that idea? That just doesn't come into a small child's mind. Here we go.

asking for a sip of water. I would go all day without eating, drinking, whatever, because I wanted

so badly to not be in the way of anybody that like, maybe that was my mistake was like not actually

“looking after myself. She was a child. Where was her guardian, her onset guardian, where were her parents?”

Look at her now. Look at her in that video. Again, the conversation we're having is a necessary one. She looks ill. She looks ill. Jenna Ortega, this photo, taken at the Sundance Film Festival on January 24th of this year. Look at her here. If you're not going to tell me that this isn't a cry for help. She looks like her eyebrows are gone, which is a very, you remove your eyebrows. You become almost alien. It is a very strange feature to disappear. I think these are

“cries for help. I do. I cannot believe that she is being treated as if her appearance is normal”

and healthy. We just did this last week. We just did this Anna Farris on the Today Show. The morning, the news broke that Hayden Pana Tier died. 36 years old. Let's take a look at her with her co-stars promoting her upcoming movies fall weekend on the Today Show. You tell me if you don't think she's on something. She's been making red carpet appearances this summer and it is fucking alarming. Fucking alarming. This woman

“has no business doing promotional work of any kind. I'm going to bet they had to edit around her”

in this movie and the joke that one of her co-stars makes at the end of this. I'm going to say to be generous. It would be an attempt to get her to shut up and to just make a joke. And at worst, I would say she's telling Anna. She's telling Anna. This woman had no business on the set of the Today Show. None. Here we go. I have a lot of experience, not breaking. It's like I do want to go home at the end of the day. You're education. Your experience in Hollywood has been scary movie. You know,

you learn to just like stay in the scene. But when I lavish her, it's a burrito. Our directors, John and Scott would give us a whole lot of freedom. It was awesome. Yeah. Michelle, every day would come to set. Not even she was, she was stored up here. But it was like

18 million. Hey, don't touch us. What are you going to do? They didn't drug test. That's the joke.

It is so upsetting and uncomfortable to look at Anna Faris. She looks like she is on hard drugs. And like she has been for a long time. It's as clear as day. We've all seen how this ends way too many times, way too many times. Matthew Perry. Matthew Perry showed up to the Friends reunion, which premiered to much hype and fanfare on May 27th, 2021 on HBO Max. And when he shows up, you can tell the rest of that cast who are already there to work, clock him as the drug

addict. He is Jennifer Aniston. You can hear her off screen remarking that he's late, drug addict behavior here we go. I didn't know he was here. I'm sorry, I'm not talking at all. I'm sorry, I'm not talking at all.

The first thing we really hear him say after the greetings is look at all of this. He's slurring

With the responsible thing have been to send Matthew Perry home and to explain that they could not

include Matthew Perry because he was on well. Yeah. Was there way too much money involved in this Friends reunion that had been rumored to be in the works ever since the show ended? Yeah. Is there a reason that at the height of Matthew Perry's drug addiction, which permeated the bulk of that show? He wrote about it in his memoir. Everybody knew. Everybody fucking knew.

“Would it have been the responsible thing for the show runners for the network to say Matthew?”

We are writing you out for the rest of the season or the next season. And your return

we wish you well will be predicated on you getting clean and sober. But this is not the environment for you and you're fucking it up for the rest of us. Yes. Were they going to break up the Beatles at the height of their fame? All the money they were making for NBC? No. No. If he died, he died. They were just lucky enough that Matthew Perry was able to squeak it out through the end of Friends. Here he is on the Friends reunion speaking to his former classmates

about how he felt how he would die if he couldn't get the laugh every single time and listen to him saloring his words. Here we go. I felt like I was going to die if they didn't laugh and it's not healthy for sure. But I would sometimes pay a line and it wouldn't laugh and I would sweat and just like to go into convulsions. If I didn't get the laugh I was supposed to get and I would

“do it and take you down. You didn't tell us that. Would you wouldn't just hurt? No. I don't remember”

you ever saying that. Oh yeah. I felt like that every single line. I'm not coming at this subject with any degree of judgment about this. I don't think addiction is a moral failing at all. I have known and loved many people who have struggled with addiction. My dad was one of them. But it does nobody any good to pretend that the addict isn't causing havoc. Isn't lying to your face. Lying to our faces with the help of the mainstream media,

celebrity, industrial complex, Matthew's memoir, all about how he conquered his drug addiction, was published a year and a half later and we all know now he was fucking lying. He was an active fucking addict. Again he's slurring here while talking to Diane Sawyer. He got a prime time ABC news special ABC news October 29th 2022. Here's Matthew on what it is and how hard it is to be sober and listen to what Diane says when he finishes. Here we go. Your disease is

outside just in one arm. Push up this waiting, just waiting for you. Waiting to get you alone.

Because alone you lose to the disease. And now I finally feel okay and feel like I've got some strength.

What does it mean to feel okay? It means that I've developed some safety nets around this. Like a backup show. For some reason, it's obviously because I was on friends. More people will listen to me. So I've got to take advantage of that. I've got to help as many people as I can.

“We've all learned it's not ours. The liar. Someone in recovery. How long they've been sober?”

Diane Sawyer says there we've all learned that it's improper to ask someone in recovery. How long they've been sober in order to explain to the rest of us. Why she as a journalist is not asking Matthew Perry that very question which she has every right to do because he's sitting there slurring his fucking words. He does not look sober. And he's out here doing real harm

gave Matthew Perry drugs. And as I've said before, when someone is that rich, that powerful, that

famous, they're going to get their drugs however they want. I think unless you're a medical doctor, you know, the only person to blame here is Matthew fucking Perry who is not a good guy.

“The Daily Mail I'll never forget, ran a couple of stories after his death, in which his”

former longtime female assistant said he was physically abusive to her. And there was one point at which she wound up in a bedroom with him and his residents and he threw her on the bed. And she ended it there. When we were putting the segment together, I was thinking a lot about river Phoenix, because I had read or heard recently that the Viper Room, which was the LA night club owned by Johnny Dap, was slated for demolition. And I thought that there was no better ending for

that place. No better. It was a drugden. It was a celebrity fucking drugden. And apparently that's

“on hold, the demolitions on hold, because the development that was going to go there and be on that”

block is on hold. But I was thinking a lot about river who died on October 31, 1993, outside the Viper Room in LA, collapsing from acute, multiple drug intoxication. Before we listen to the 911 call from that night, which was made by his brother Joaquin. This is something that, again, the mainstream media barely touches, barely touches, and it's so germane. It's so important because so many of these child actors

are pushed into this industry, my opinion, by parents who do not care about the human carnage that this industry exacts from its child stars. River and Joaquin and their siblings

were raised in a cult. It was called the Children of God. Now, when River first came on the scene,

“he was a very young actor. He got famous and stand by me. I think he was 12. And River was a”

prodigy. River had it all. He had the looks. He had the talent. He had about him. What felt like a purity, like a like a sensitive soul. It was all over his face. And the way their origin story was framed was that the phoenixes had lived in Argentina, and they were part of this religious movement or sect for a little while,

she got weird. They left. They relocated to either Florida first in LA, and you know,

like all good parents do, they put their children to work and have them busking, like performing in public with like a bucket in front of them, give us money so we can, you know, feed our family. The Children of God cult, which River and Joaquin were raised in, I'm going to warn you. This is so dark. This is so dark. And the mainstream media still won't tell the truth about it. You want to wonder how a gifted

prodigy, excuse me, like River Phoenix wound up a drug addict. And by the way, rivers, rivers, image in the media at that time, and you cannot tell me people didn't know. But his image was like he was, he was a vegan, he didn't put anything bad poisonous unhealthy in his body. The Children of God cults. We're going to show a little bit from this 2007 HBO documentary, which was made by former cult member and survivor Noah Thompson.

Rose McGowan is another survivor of this cult as a child.

And there's video that Noah shows in his doc and what David Burke inculcated. This is in a religious

“sect. This is a pedophile sex ring. He encouraged, he had these, they show it in the documentary.”

It's these books. They're illustrated books. They look like adult graphic novels. And they show grown women in bed with their three to four year old children having sexual relations with them raping their kids. And they show children, little children engaging in like taught how. They're being taught that they should not only engage in groups sex with each other, but that that's healthy.

And the rumors have always been. And that illustrated book would would ratify those rumors

with the mother and the children that siblings were also encouraged to engage with each other in that manner. So, incess was going on, pedophilia, rape. This is a lot of this rape. You're raping children. You're raping children. Here's an adult survivor in that documentary, talking about the abuses, leveled by late cult leader, David Burke. And that's some of the stuff I'm actually quite interested in, you know, like what it was like actually believing, you know, with

Burke. I mean, what was, is this some of your earliest memories of, you know, traumatic, very traumatic,

always relocating, like every six to ten months only because he was a pedophile. Five years old,

I remember we used to have like a dress-up nights or theme nights, and everybody would dress up, and the children and adult members were all included. Everybody would, you know, participate.

“And I think tonight the grandpa would come in and have sex with all the women, one by one,”

from, you know, starting from the adults, the children, the adults, whichever way it would go. Now imagine, makes out a sleepinger bed, and drunk, David Burke comes in a middle of a night because meaning his granddaughter won't fuck him that night and he had to beat the shit out of her,

make him black and be bruised, and abuse the demons out of her, his center home, so he's depressed,

so he had to drink, so come into my room and touch his room, who is his stepdaughter, and drive us out of our beds and fuck us, and then if we were climbed, because we were tired, and he'd make us try to drink wine, and we don't want to drink wine, and we're just like crying, crying,

“and then imagine our mother the next day, punished and asked for that. We were getting punished”

at age 10-11 because we would not have consensual sex with a guru, when he was drunk, because his granddaughter had demons in her. I wouldn't have fuck him. She's a survivor, and she clearly, clearly went through horrific abuse. There's no such thing as consensual sex in that scenario. There's none. There's no such thing as a granddaughter who won't have sex with her grandfather.

There's no such thing. When I say that the mainstream media still white washes this stuff, and all that does is perpetuate damage like this, I really don't get it. Look at this ABC News report from November 2014. This is seven years after that HBO documentary. You know how long it took me to find that documentary? Five fucking seconds. Do your work! Or maybe they just don't want to do their work. Look at this added iron headline.

From ABC News, published November 12, 2014, Joaquin Phoenix discusses growing up in the children of God religious sect. It was not a religious sect. It was a pedophilic, incestuous sex cult. Hollywood was not the place for river Phoenix. Doing a movie about drug addiction, like my own private Idaho, was not the movie for river

Phoenix. Hanging out at the vapor room with fucking celebrity drug addicts was not the place for river Phoenix. Who collapsed on the sidewalk outside the vapor room, began seizing on the concrete.

He's so much better right now. He's laying on his head. He's not going to go out and check this. He's taking his fucking brain in.

“I play that only to display the true human carnage that this industry and a complicit media”

has a vested interest in keeping covered up. You could draw a direct line from river Phoenix's premature violent death. Day-hate in panaceares overdose. Nothing's changed. We'll be back with trouble-maker feedback and a couple of books that I am very eager to share with you. See you in a minute. The skincare industry has been selling lies for years, pushing over-priced chemical

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it was Natalie Wood's turn. I caught probably for the third or fourth time splender in the grass.

It was made or released in 1961. It was set in 1929. I first saw splender in the grass. I was probably about 12 or 13. I caught it on one of those old, channel nine, late Sunday, afternoon, early evening, retro, old movie things. I was just mesmerized by splender in the grass, because even though it was set in 1961, it was released in 1961, set in 29. It felt and feels so modern. When we were putting this episode of the nerve together, I knew I wanted to talk to you guys

might think, not for not in the way you might think. I'm not talking about her death, which was horrific and a tragedy, and definitely should be a future segment. Something else, which I'll get to,

but first, I wanted to bring up to you guys and just read a little bit from two memoirs that are

related to everything we've been talking about today. The first, the mega New York Times bestseller. I'm glad my mom died by Jeanette McCurdy. And this book stayed on the Times bestseller list for

“almost a year. I think now, this book and the other book I'm going to read from, we're both”

published in 2002, both written by women who were child stars, and both talking about their specific traumas in the machine. Jeanette had an abusive mother who wanted her daughter to be famous for than anything and who taught her how to develop an eating disorder and was also very sexually inappropriate with her. But Jeanette's safety was of no importance here, and she was thrown into the ma of the Nickelodeon child star system, and she writes about coming up with Ariana Grande.

And in the book, at Nickelodeon, she writes of a figure who Jeanette calls only the creator

“great student him, because it gets to the God complex of these guys.”

Conventional wisdom is that the creator is Dan Schneider who is eventually cut loose from Nickelodeon.

After the whispers of abusing children sexually got too loud. He's never been charged with anything.

He's never admitted to anything. I'm just saying that allegedly reportedly these have been this has been the whisper network in the industry forever that Dan Schneider is to put it mildly a fucking creep. We should never be left alone with children. Let alone be like the head of a children's network. Okay, this is chapter 31 and Jeanette is behind the curtain in the dressing room of the sound stage that we shoot the show on. She is being made to take photographs

in a bathing suit. You look great, the wardrobe assistant who's always sewing yell says

from across the room without looking up. I worry that great means sexual. I fold my arms across my body to try and cover it up more. I hunched my shoulders over like a little cave to protect me. I don't want to look sexual. I want to look like a child. I'll definitely push for the one piece, but thank you for humoring me and trying on the bikini. The head of wardrobe says while she pulls her hair up into a bun. Sure, I say,

unable to look at her or at mom who sits on the stairs in the opposite corner of the room.

“I take a few steps forward. She snaps the photo. What do you say? Want to try on the last bikini?”

She asks me like she's tempting me. It confuses me when people throw a spin on the delivery of something to overcompensate for the fact that the thing they're delivering is unpleasant. Can I just, um, can I not? I ask, can I leave it at the one I just tried? Well, he wants options. The wardrobe designer says pulling an overexaggerated, you know him kind of expression that doesn't resonate because I don't know him.

Not really. I've only met him a few times. He seems abusive and boisterous to me, but mom says she's heard rumblings from crew members that he's got, a quote, "air trigger tamper" and to be sure not to get on his bad side. Come on, net. Just one more mom urges me. Okay, I say. I try on the last bikini. It's blue with a green stripe around the edges of it. There are ties on the bottoms. I hate the way the ties tickle my legs. I feel sick to my stomach.

is fighting the smallness that it's trying to develop to grow. I feel like I'm barely hanging on to my child like body and the innocence that comes with it. I'm terrified of being looked at like a sexual being. It's disgusting. I'm not that. I'm this. I'm a child. That same year in 2022, the actress and filmmaker Sarah Polly published her memoir

“called "Run towards the Danger." I inhaled this book. I think I've read it in two”

settings. I love Sarah Polly. She is an incredible actress who walked away for the most part

from being on screen. She did a bit part in Seth Rogan's Apple series called The Studio, but for the most part, she's a director now and she released one of my all-time favorite documentaries in 2012 called Stories We Tell. It's all about her origin story, her family of origin, a secret she discovers, how that doesn't change her identity, her sense of who she is at the core. Not an actress, a person, a daughter, a sister, fascinating. So well done. It almost feels like

“you're just you're watching like a feature film. It's incredible. Now Sarah was also a prodigy,”

a child prodigy, and she writes, she starred as a teenage girl on a Canadian, she's Canadian,

on a Canadian hit show called "Road to Avon Lee," and her mother died when she was 11. There's a lot of symmetry in this nerve right. He didn't paneteer, a daughter, is 11. Just lost her mother. Sarah writes in this book about the writers on that show, knowing Sarah was in the throes of her grief at losing her mother at such a tender age that they would write scenes in which her character was mourning her mother

“because they'd get such good stuff out of Sarah because she'd really cry and Sarah writes that”

she knew exactly what was going on, how long to up it was. She was nine. She was cast in the adventures of Baron Moon Chousen. She was nine. Her father was on the set with her. I'm going to read when her book came out, by the way, there were a lot of headlines generated, you know, Terry Gilliam from Monty Python was the director, and everybody like a dord Terry Gilliam, and then Sarah's account comes out. Do you know what I'm saying? There's the story that we're

always told about these people, and then there's the real story. Eventually, the truth will come out.

Eventually, the truth will come out. She's filming nine years old. I read. There were many special effects in the film. It seems a battle, exploding bombs, space, and moonwalking. As we were about to shoot a sequence involving explosives, Terry led me down a route. I was to run through the set of a bombed-out city. I was told there would be explosives going off as I ran, but I wasn't concerned. It would all be perfectly safe. I was told. I was given two cotton balls to put into my ears.

In case the sound was too loud for me. After Terry yelled, action, I began my run, as instructed, blasts of debris exploded on the ground around me, accompanied by deafening booms that made me feel as if I myself had exploded. The log I was to run under was partially on fire. The gigantic blast continued and shook everything around me. I ran, terrified, straight into the camera, tripping over the dolly tracks, Terry laughed, and looked perplexed.

I couldn't breathe. It didn't seem possible that this could have been the plan.

That things hadn't just gone terribly wrong, but they hadn't, this was the plan, and I had just ruined the take. I was mortified, note that. She's terrified for her life, but having survived that. Now she's mortified because she's ruined the take. She writes, it took a long time to reset the take, and while Terry didn't show any frustration about the delay, he also didn't seem to notice how

“scared I was. My interpretation of this, I think Sarah's being generous. I think Terry did notice.”

I just think he didn't care. She continues. I had to do it again. I had to do it until I got it right.

This time before action was called, I went cold with fear, shaking. I could feel my heart thumping in the pit of my stomach. The blasts were deafening, terrifying. It felt like the world was collapsing underneath my feet. Explosives going off in places. I had just run right by, I felt as though I would be swallowed up whole by the torn apart earth around me. If I didn't run fast enough in my panic, I now ran too fast for the camera to keep up with me. We had to do it again.

“During the next take, I wasn't running fast enough. My legs now heavy as led. I sobbed in my father's”

arms in between takes and pleaded with him to intervene, to ensure I didn't have to do it ever again.

He held me close, soothing me, but when an assistant director came over to say they needed another take, my father said, with genuine remorse, I'm afraid they have to do it again. Love, I'm sorry. There's nothing I can do. I ran the gauntlet of explosives again and again and again until she was too close to an explosive that went off and she was taken by ambulance to a hospital. That is childhoods start in for you. Sarah Polly, by the way, she's not given a hyperbole.

So if that's, if she's writing, that sounds horrific. I'm going to bet it was 20 times fucking worse and that she's still scarred by it to this day. Is it any wonder that someone like Sarah Polly who is a true talent lost the will to act, back to Natalie. There was a very long standing stubborn rumor for decades, like up to the moment I'm going to read from this report that when Natalie would was a teenager, Natalie was a child star. She was

“made, I think she was aged five when she starred in Miracle on 34th Street. She was a child star.”

Another Hollywood mother, another stage mother. So this, this rumor had it that when Natalie was about 16, an older, Hollywood star actor, famous legendary, had raped her at a hotel in Los Angeles. And then the rumor was that not only was it that she was raped but that her rapist was herk Douglas, father of Michael Douglas. Her sister wrote a memoir and the only real, real, true

coverage of her sister, Lan, is memoir that I could find was in the AP. Again, mainstream media wonders why it's dying. Tell the truth, we all want it. Published by the AP, on November 4th, 2021. Reading from this, four decades, it's been one of Hollywood's darkest rumors. A teenage Natalie would was sexually assaulted. Let's call it what it is rape, rape. By a top movie star, excuse me, more than twice her age when she met with him at a hotel in

assailant Kirk Douglas. I remember that Natalie looked especially beautiful when Mom and I dropped her

“off that night at the Chateau Marmont entrance, Lan a Wood writes in Little Sister, alleging that the”

incident happened in the summer of 1955 around the time Natalie was filming the searchers. So Natalie would have been about 16 years old. The meeting had been arranged by their mother, Maria Zaccorenko, who thought that, quote, "many doors might be thrown open for her with just a nod of his famous handsome head on her behalf," Lan a writes.

And all pause my aside. Natalie's mother knew exactly what she was doing driving her teenage

daughter to a hotel room to have a private meeting with Kirk Douglas. She was already a star. It wasn't enough for Maria, apparently. Continuing from Lan's book,

“it seemed like a long time passed before Natalie got back into the car and woke me up when she slammed”

the door shut. She looked awful. She was very disheveled and very upset. And she and Mom started urgently whispering to each other. Something bad had apparently happened to my sister,

but whatever it was, I was apparently too young to be told about it according to Lanna.

Natalie did not discuss with her what happened until both were adults and Natalie, after describing being brought into Douglas' suite. So someone or someone's brought her there. Nothing has changed. Nothing. Natalie told her sister, and I quote, "He hurt me, Lanna." It was like an out-of-body experience. I was terrified. I was confused. Lanna 75 at the time of this report was around age eight when the alleged incident occurred. I don't

know why there's a alleged incident. Again, let's not call rape and sexual assault incidents. Let's not call a ban punching a five-foot woman in the face with a closed fist and incident. Let's not do that. By the way, in America, you can't fucking libel the dead.

“Kirk Douglas was dead at the time of this memoirs publication. So why the alleged and the incidents?”

Everyone knew this happened. Everyone. Lanna remembered her sister and their mother. I'm going to guess the mother was very heavily pushing Natalie in this way that it would ruin Natalie's career to publicly accuse him. Socket up was Maria's advice, and that's a direct quote from Lanna's memoir. Michael Douglas, son of Kirk Douglas, was approached for comment when this memoir was published.

And Lanna was doing interviews for it. And you know, I don't think Lanna got nearly the media coverage that her explosive memoir should have gotten because Lan is telling stories that you're not supposed to tell out loud. People in the industry might know that's fine. We don't talk about this stuff in public. You know what Michael Douglas said? May they both rest in peace. Michael knows. We knew and he knows.

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attached a photo and at first we're going to show it here. I was like, wait, when exactly am I looking

at and then I was like, oh my god, it's yellow butterflies. And as Jim Curtis Jennifer Aniston's celebrity hypnosis boyfriend often exhorts us. If we're not seeing yellow butterflies in our field division, we just have to reorient ourselves and be a little bit more creative in how we see them. Laura, you got me. You got me. It was great. Okay. From troublemaker Whitney, I took Martha Stewart's

“comments on Meghan Markle's progression. I think actually it would be like a regression. As it”

doesn't make sense because she went from being a princess to being a housekeeper. Yes, yes, that's exactly it. She gave up being like a member of the British royal family so that she could go like jar preserves and decant pretzels from one store-bought plastic bag into like a zip lock plastic bag. Oprah and this leads us into our very special nerve announcement. Okay. Now, we haven't really had time this week because it's been there's been so much news,

but we're all going to have a discussion about Jeff. Like a deeper discussion about Jeff who bombed his way into the live chat during our Oprah Mini a week and a half ago and everyone thinks that Jeff is Oprah. Like we all think Jeff is Oprah. We have so many theories but before we get to the announcement, I have to write from troublemaker x.

“I think you are spot on about Oprah personally infiltrating your live stream,”

although I seriously doubt she can type that fast. She may have had a single assistant on hand.

It would have been gal. She would never let a minion know that the nerve bothers her.

Let alone that she's watching the nerve or paying attention to what we're up to over here. She would never. It has to be a trusted, console-yere, okay? It's gal. I mean, actually, I do think there was a, was this you trouble maker x? In the live chat, who said gal, can you really type that fast? Okay. Now, this trouble maker notes that Jeff's Jeff's indignant tone points to some form of personal involvement, agreed. The quasi-fatigue

account of old accusations indicates years of hearing the same things. Agreed, the angry victim hood is vintage Oprah. Why me? And the unbelievably low regard that Jeff apparently has for the average level of dignity and intelligence of African girls, perfectly aligns with Oprah's vague mission too, as she told the Associated Press in the televised interview that we showed on that nerve to value them for, quote, "more than their bodies." If it is true that these teenage girls

are at permanent risk of sex trafficking or getting pregnant, putting them in a school with books because that is the way that Oprah rose from the ashes of poverty and abuse. Excuse me,

if that is not the primary concern, I should think why not open a hospital, like Madonna did,

“and Malawi, great point. Also turning your back on a charity, that visible is such horrible”

PR that I doubt this was a spontaneous or natural decision. Please leave me an anonymous. I am in your line of work, and the nerve is my off time. You got it, trouble maker, ex now. To that email,

to Jeff, to this theory of the case that I am going to put on Teddy's desk as soon as we're done,

our announcement. So this Saturday, our mini is going to be a further examination of what Oprah's

“been getting up to of the dragging out of quote unquote statement for the first time in seven years,”

definitely definitely not a reaction to the nerve. To the nerve, excuse me, our investigation into who Jeff May truly be, Marlena did some real digging phone calls and the like, I'm going to come into the live chat this weekend. On Saturday's mini, I want to talk to you guys in real time, as we do this mini on who Jeff is, is Jeff Oprah, is Jeff Gale, who among you thinks Stedman is alive, who among you thinks it's a weekend at Bernie's situation that Stedman

was an AI or as Paul from New Zealand theorizes that he was a cardboard cutout propped up by Gale, I cannot wait, I cannot wait to be in the live chat with you, trouble makers, Saturday, 10 a.m. Eastern on the YouTube channel, be there, be square, keep your feedback, coming email me at [email protected]

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