Meghan Markle’s Attention-Seeking Antics, Tiger Woods Shock DUI Footage, and Hoda Kotb's Fake Grief

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Body language expert and founder of Truth Plane will be joining us today. To get into it, three major cultural offenders I don't wanna spoil anything, but yes, of course, Meghan Markle is among them.

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body language expert, Mark Bowden.

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at Mark Bowden and you can also catch Mark on the behavior panel also on YouTube. Welcome back, Mark.

- Morning, thanks for having me back as always.

Listen, I'm really excited. We've got some great clips today. Some really interesting stuff. Where do you want to start? - Well, I want to start when I see this, Mark,

it is because of you that the phrase trophy behavior is now part of my lexicon. - Yeah. - Meg and Markle, and what I'm quote friend, Kelly McKee, Zaj Fen, if I'm saying this, right?

On the red carpet at the Alliance for Children's Rights 34th Annual Champions for Children Gallo, that's a mouthful. It's Beverly Hills on March 19th, 2026. We are looking right now at Meghan on the red carpet

with Kelly, who is visibly pregnant, and Meghan is rubbing, rubbing her friends belly as if it's a trophy. - Yeah. - When you look at this, Mark.

- Maureen, why am I bothering to show up anymore? Now you know that that's trophy behavior. You've picked me to the post there because it is exactly that. Listen, when we go out and we touch stuff,

it's one of those signals of this is desirable, and or this is mine, I own this. In fact, you know, if you work in a retail store, what you want to be looking out for is when potential customers go and touch an object,

not just look at it, go and touch it. It's desirable to tell you. - Well, it says that they want it closer to them. They want it to be theirs. They want to handle it.

They want even more sensory information from it. And so for pregnant women, you know, they often feel as I've heard it, that everybody thinks they own them. The moment they get pregnant, you know,

everybody owns you. Everybody thinks they can come in and touch that area. And of course, they can't. They can't, it's yours. It's not theirs.

- Nothing to do. - It's so, especially it's such a, it's such a sacred private that, you know, the idea that like, somebody would not only touch it without asking, but then begin caressing it and framing it with their hands.

It's like, hey, Megan, you asshole, we all get it. She's pregnant, it's not about you.

Well, look, here's what I'll say.

“Here's what I'll say, Laurie, this does happen a lot.”

So this is not necessarily outside of one of the social norms that shouldn't really be a social norm. It shouldn't really be a social norm that you can just walk up to any pregnant woman to go, oh, I'm gonna have a feel of that.

I mean, everybody knows that's kind of odd. It has become a bit of a social norm. I think people do push back on it now as they should. I think Megan Michael should be one of the people who should know that is something

you kind of ask permission around first of all. - I mean, she's allegedly been pregnant twice herself. - You would know. - You would think she would know. - He would know.

- The other thing, Mark, though, that struck me about this clip in particular is that it seems, once again, a rank-over compensation on Megan's part to show, look everybody, I have a friend. And not only do I have a friend, she's such a close friend

that I can fairly, my word, molest her. - I don't read carpet, she's gonna love it. She's gonna love it, 'cause that's me. - Well, look what she could have done instead, which is something called framing,

which is when you kind of frame it and go, hey, look at that, isn't that great?

“Isn't that the most important thing in the room, okay?”

Which we see in some of these red carpet photographs, when somebody's with somebody else and they point at them to go, look at who I'm with. That person totally out ranks me, look at that. Look what I've achieved to be next to that.

She could have done a framing, she doesn't, she does ownership, essentially, which is, yeah, I mean, you read it exactly right, and I'm so pleased you're picking up these ideas of trophy behavior, it's brilliant.

- We all are, we all are Mark, you're expanding our minds, we love it, okay, here's Megan in the bathroom at the same gala, I don't know about you, Mark, but whenever I'm lucky enough to be in a five-star hotel at some event, the bathroom attendance break out

into dance all the time, there's never a music

in those rooms if there is a set ambient music. And tell me what you're seeing, you know, Megan's off in that side of the frame, tell me what you're seeing in the camera angle, tell me what you're seeing, she's trying to convey to us

because that was clearly taken for the purposes of social media, no other reason. - Yeah, well, look, there is a little element of here of, hey look, what I've got with here, this is really interesting, this is really entertaining.

So there is something quite nice about not necessarily the emphasis being on her, but who she's with. And I don't know who these people are and maybe you're staying there bathroom attendance, so fantastic for them to have a moment on social media.

- Mark, not to stop you right there, but are you implying that they could perhaps not be real bathroom attendance, but perhaps professional dancers that those two hired to dress up

because I've never seen a bathroom attendant do like

a practically a backwards flip? - Yeah, I mean, and also where's the, that by the vanity mirror there and where's the stuff that a bathroom attendant might have at the vanity?

- Yes, so I'm unsure, there's something a little confusing about this, and here's what I like to this. This is a slippery slope. The moment you're now doing your social media from the bathroom, nice bathroom, very lovely hotel,

bathroom, so, but the moment you've gone down that route, what's the next step and the next step? And the next step, it's, you know, I've always said, privacy is analog, we're in a digital age, and so a lot of privacy went a long time ago,

but there is a certain element which is, you're probably not going, I'm probably not going to do this from the bathroom morey. And I hope if I did, you would say Mark, you're not invited anymore, we're not,

“we're not, we're not going in that direction, okay?”

- You know, it's so funny, you say this, these are the, you know, you look at things, you know, beyond the body language, we're looking at the setting, this is the theater, this is the stage, this is the set.

As you say, and there seems to be, the connective tissue with these two clips to me seems to be that Megan is trying to communicate a sense of earthiness, right? Here's a pregnant woman, here I am in a bathroom,

I am a human being, bodily functions are not beneath me. I can get real with people who are of a lower class than I am, they love me, I can have fun, and it's all, she can't figure out why none of us are buying what she's selling,

and it's exactly what we're seeing. - It's exactly, exactly that it's on, I'm just like you, well, kind of, you're not, because you won't see me in the bathroom. - Thankfully, she's not like any of us.

The rest of us normal, you know,

Okay, let's go to Tiger Woods. - Yeah, yeah. - Because shortly before we were about to speak with you, nerve HQ was exploding, because we got body cam video. Okay, body cam video of the rest of the arrest.

We're going to look at this first clip right here.

Take it on March 27th, day of his arrest, 2026. - Down on my phone, and all of a sudden, boom, I'm going to just take a look at this clip.

“I'm going to just take, is this comfortable for you?”

- Yeah, yeah. - Okay, so he's on the ground, on one knee, that looks like the injured right leg, that he nearly had amputated in that last crash he caused, doing 90 miles per hour in a 45 mile per hour zone.

What do you make of his posture there? - Well, first of all, let's just look a little bit outside of that and go, this is now clearly a pattern. This is the second time in my understanding that he's rolled a car.

- Second time he's rolled a car, that we know a fourth time he's been collared for driving under the influence that we know of. - Okay, so a pattern, this is somebody who's in somewhat of a pattern.

He's very calm for somebody who's just rolled a car. Now, having said that, this is a one of the greatest pro golfers ever, as I understand it, and you would expect that type of person

to have a kind of calm that you and I would never have,

you know, a running immense calm under immense pressure. So, he's extraordinarily calm for somebody who's just, pulled them, must have pulled themselves out. - That's the thing. He is okay, so it rolled on the driver side.

- Right onto the driver side. - So let's assume he was buckled in, we don't know. - Yeah. - So either way, he's got a, he's got a fight gravity. - Yeah.

- In a car this rolled over in what we constantly hear how banged up his body is. This is the excuse, one of them. - Right. - Banged up, poor tiger.

He somehow manages to get it climb out of that thing. You know, when you look at it rolled over, that thing looks like it's 14 feet high at least. - It's big, it's a rain drive. So it's a big, it's a big vehicle.

- And I'm gonna say if I'm trying to pull myself out of it,

which I wouldn't, I would wait for first responders,

I would be afraid that anything I did could potentially, you know, I could injure myself worse in the fall.

“But here's the thing, I agreed with the calm demeanor.”

We've been to this circus before. We've been arrested before. We've had roads, riding counters with the police. - Right. - We're also on opiates, allegedly, reportedly.

- Yeah, yeah, well, so, you know, on this video here, and I'm maybe we're gonna look at some more, but in this video here, okay, I'm gonna 50/50 because okay, this is somebody who is used to dealing with immense stress.

Okay, he's also in a not position there, and very calm in that opposition. But maybe he's stretching out some muscles in order to stop an injury happening in the future. He knows maybe if I've been injured,

I need to stretch out in some way. He's stopping the muscles, seizing up around a joint or something like that. I can think of some good reasons at this point. At this point, why what he's doing there

might be okay-ish because this is one of the greatest pro golfers ever, and he doesn't react to stress like you and I might. And it's a pattern for him. He's used to doing this by now.

- Yeah, he's been to this radio for a long time. Let's look at the second interrogation. Our tiger is attempting to explain what happened.

“I believe now he is seated halfway at least”

in the back of a police vehicle. - Yeah. - Can you tell me what happened real quick? - Yeah, I was looking down at my phone. You know, look at treating stations, and that's an old bone.

- Okay. - Are you okay? - Yeah, you heard. - Hold on. - Now Mark, the one thing I pick up at the end of this, you'll pick up way more, I'm sure, is the cop says, are you okay and he goes, yeah?

- Yeah. - Yeah. - Are you shaking his head, no? - Yeah. - Okay, well let's come to that for a start. Okay, so we'll often get people being brave.

Okay, and, you know, there can be stigma with injury. - Mm-hmm. - You know, and not, you know, manning up to the situation. Okay, so there's a lot of sharp nose, but there's no body narration with that.

- There's no, no, no. - I love that phrase, body narration. - There's no, there's no narration of that with the body to go, I'm okay, I'm okay, I would expect with somebody who's trying to be tough in the situation

And what they're kind of saying is look,

“just give me time, I'm coming into a bit of a shock here.”

Just give me time, he's very relaxed. Just look at his breathing rate. - Yes. - Super relaxed. His length back, there's no panic. There seems to be no shock.

There's no physical narration of the story, as well, just the hands are down. Look, either he's sedated, or he's not giving us the full story here. There could be a couple of reasons for no body narration.

Usually when people are being honest about a situation, they're, but especially something quite stressful, they'll, their whole body will get involved in it. His whole body isn't involved in it. So is he telling, is he not telling us the whole story here

or is he sedated in some way? Your idea that he may well have taken some of these drugs that were in his pup quite strong hydrocodone. So, you know, it's a possibility.

“Now there's some sniffing that goes on there.”

And there's a bit of his nasal, he sounds a bit what we call denasal, which is the voice is coming out the front of his mouth here, not through his nose. He's getting no head resonance.

That could be that the air bags went off. And so he's been hit in the face with air bags. And so he may well, he may well have damaged. He may well have blood in his nose or mucus in his nose because of the pressure of the air bags there.

So that might be the sniffing that's going on. So that is such a brilliant observation and supposition mark

because I've never been hit in the face with an air bag.

Thank God. But I would imagine just the shock of it, aside from the force of it, but the shock of something hitting your face. - Shockly.

- We're on, we're on, we're out of the view. And this guy, it's just waiting for his friends to come over and grab him so they can go to the nearest restaurant or something. The force of an air bag can for some people break their nose.

- Oh my God. - If you got a child in a front seat and their bag goes off,

“it could be fatal to a child, which is why you must”

have them in a children's chair and a bag. - The room in the front in the reverse position. Yeah, the pressure on those bags is extraordinary.

You should always have those air bags turned on

because they will save your life. They absolutely, they absolutely will, but they could well hurt you. So he's had air bags and they may whip both the multiple air bags in that vehicle, one at the front, one side of it,

and maybe one at the other side of it. And they may all have gone off. So that's, that's quite an explosion around you. - Let's look at Tiger when the cops discover those drugs in his pocket.

We're not gonna see him, but we're going to hear him and we'll see part of his body. And I do think there's a lot to be discerned from this small clip. - Here we go.

- Yeah, that's a nargo. There we go, yeah, okay. - And then we see him in the back of the control of the patrol car. His hands are clearly cuffed behind his back.

He's strapped in with a seat belt. He leans back. He closes his eyes and he seems to inhale through his nose with like a stutter, almost like it's a breath that's interrupted and then inhales very quickly again.

- Yeah, so this could be shock starting to set in. You can get some convulsions. It could be that again, the airbags have gone off. That's caused some pressure on the nose, blood, mucus. You might be trying to clear that.

Often we release stress by stretching the front door or relieving pressure in the back of our neck. So it could be stress release. It could be like a look to the heavens of what the hell have I got myself into?

Or wow, I managed to get away with that with my life. I don't know what's going on in his head, but there are a number of reasons why we might get that kind of behavior. Of course, there are some drugs that you can take.

That will cause you to want to stretch and release muscle tension because they cause you to get very lively. So these might be those kind of drugs, they may be more sedative. I don't know, I've not taken this drug,

so I don't know what the results are. - Yeah, like you, I have very little experience with drugs like this whenever I've been prescribed them for a broken bone or surgery, and I don't like them. But what struck me about when he's the pill,

in his hand, and you hear tigers of voice off-screen go,

And I thought to myself, this is a very casual way of naming

what he's very fluent in the lingo of drugs to me. - Yes, it's a notion, if it's a prescription drug, so I've had operations and been prescribed hydromorphine, day, strong pain killer, you know,

“try not to take it, but sometimes you have to.”

And if I was with the police, and they take that out of my pocket, I would go look, that's hydromorphine, because I've just had an operation. - Exactly, I would say I'm on oxycodone, my doctor gave it to me, like I don't, yeah.

- Yeah, it's a drug. - I won't go, those pills are narcos. I mean, that's a bit, that feels a little bit to me. - It does, it feels strange.

- It feels a bit like it might get me into more trouble but not. - Does it does feel street? Like what if his provider is an actual dealer? I mean, look, we've got dealers and doctors offices

all over America, that's to be sure. But like what if he, like my theory is like,

I don't think he's always getting these things

from the doctor, I really don't. We're gonna take a look at still images of woods

“before we move on from him in the cop car.”

- Yeah. - And these struck me really, like that second one on the bottom here, he looks, there's like a religiosity to it. - Yes.

- Like he looks like he's, he's begging God for like a miracle and then let's move to the other two really quickly and there he is yawning, which I understand can be a stress response. And then again, he is an expression of anguish on his face

and he's leaning back still wrapped in whatever this towel is or whatever it is they've given him. What do you make of these images? - Yeah, look, still images are tough because they're just moments of time

and we really need context. So look, that one that feels very religious, I mean, he also has the head scarf as well, which is just exacerbating that, you know, and so we don't know what happens before

or after around that, but it does look, you know, highly, highly religious. You're absolutely right about the yawning. It's one of the ways that relieve stress or more importantly move from one state to another state.

- Oh. - Yes, one of the ways we calm down. Chief, you're a dog, if you're a dog owner, you'll notice that your dog will do a big yawning when they're changing from one mood to another mood.

It's one of the signals for, to say, "Okay, the dog's settling down, they've stopped their run around. "They're yawning now, they're gonna calm right, right down. "We do the same. "Dogs actually picked it up from us.

"We evolved together about 40,000 years ago. "Yeah, as we started to tame wolves, "we picked up on yawning together "in all the seconds." - We got yawning from wolves.

- And they got it from us as well. - Or they got it from us, they got it from us. So I got, I wish Andy Warhol was still with us. That image of Tiger in the back of the Bengal cargo. I mean, it's one for the ages.

Okay, we're gonna move to Savannah and Hoda, which I have been dying to talk to you all about, probably more than anybody.

Okay, so I wanna look first.

I know you don't love still photography, but this one I love because this is the image that NBC chose to promote their one-on-one in the aftermath of Savannah's mother, being abducted, still missing,

and returning to the today show. What I noticed here is the heads are together. One is higher than the other. But that triangle of negative space at the bottom. So they're heads are together,

but their bodies are not close. - Yeah, also they haven't quite, I mean, the heads are touching, and the head is not a particularly vulnerable place. Ultimately, you can tap on your head

and you're gonna be fine. So you can knock heads and everybody's gonna be okay. The cheeks together would be way more intimate, way more intimate. So that part of that triangle is around

the cheeks not being together. And so the body not closing completely on that.

“So yeah, I think, and you're absolutely right,”

still images are tough because we don't know exactly the context of the other movement around it. Maybe they've just come out of a really close cheek to cheek moment. We don't quite know, but yeah, the optic hair

is not one of the closeness that they might be able to get

- The optic hair, I feel is a forced intimacy.

“I don't, Savannah is actually, I think, quite tall,”

but I also just find it interesting that there's such a differential. In the, normally I feel like when friends put their heads together, they kind of tilt a little bit. So you're kind of even, you just, you find a way

to sort of, it's natural, it does. - Yes, you're right. - Of course, you know. - Yes, you're right. Again, we would expect more framing.

Now this is a tragic situation as well. So they've been, I don't know whether this is before or after the interview.

So I don't know where they're coming from there,

but with really good friends, we might expect better more equal framing between the two to say, "Hey, look who I'm with, I'm with my, you know, a great friend here, somebody who is my equal here." - Yeah, I agree, I agree.

Okay, so let's get into the video. Hold his affect, I found, and many people who watch the nerve found, feel it is off, feel it is off, and here we are going to watch her try to show a lot

“of emotion, but I think we're absent one key thing,”

here we go. - And all the despair you sat and managed to think of words to say, "Who are you able to do that in that moment?"

- So talk to me about this very theatrical

dabbing of eyes that seem to be, there are no tears. - Yeah, look, and you can test that for sure because there's the shot of Savannah, and it's the same lighting situation, and you see the glistening in her eyes,

and we know she's been tearing through out, in fact, and she hasn't been dabbing them away, although Hoda does have a paper hankachief at the ready, in case that's needed, but she hasn't been dabbing those tears away,

so we know what tears actually look like under that lighting, because we could go, "Hey, she's crying, "but you can't see it 'cause of the lighting." You know, you can see tears under that lighting, because we see it in Savannah.

There's no tears for her at all, and yet she is showing a wipe away there. So yeah, it seems performed to me. - Do you think Mark that Savannah,

“I found it strange that she didn't wipe away those tears?”

At times she did it, other times she let them stream down her face, which is an uncomfortable feeling, like our impulse is to get them off our face, you know? - Okay, so impulse, if we're not too emotionally distressed, is to wipe them away, especially if we're feeling

some social risk. So if there's a lot of social risk, and we're not that isn't overwhelmed by the emotion, we'll start to hide and start to wipe them away, because again, there's a stigma with

I'm showing a bigger motion in front of people. Now what's interesting here is obviously, they're in front of, not right then, but they're gonna be in front of millions of people, okay? Now they're both used to being in front of people,

and they're both used to the idea of, you've kind of got to display the authentic you, 'cause the audience really like that, yeah? And the emotions that Savanna is having are extreme and real, 'cause they're extreme and real,

and I would say at that point, all social risk has gone. All social risk has gone, she won't be feeling the risk of crying in front of other people. She won't know that it's happening, I would say. I like this a lot, okay, let's look at Hoda.

This, this we showed last week, but I really wanted to revisit it with you. I feel that it's your training mark that allowed me to catch this micro-expression that we have since slowed down so that,

oh look, you're so excited. Everybody like we're just telling me at all, okay? So Hoda seems to be relishing in the gory details, as relayed by Savanna here, let's take a look. - It is surreal, it's how is it possible

that we are having to make a video speaking to a kidnapper who took an 84-year-old woman in the dead of night in her pajamas. - So we're going to look at the micro-expression, and I also want to ask you about those little grunts

Here's the looking of the lips. - Yeah. - Load down the eye flutters.

“The tongue comes out, it comes out again.”

We seem to, what is that mark? - Yeah, so there's a number of things here.

First of all, we've got some lines in the eyes here,

which is showing a true smile. So there is some pleasure here. - Yes. - I would say. Now, I mean, you know, there's an argument for it

because this is damn good TV. So it's better TV, I'm gonna not counter you. It's better TV if you can act like you're just as upset as your friend. - Or there's a thinkable, violent tragedy.

That's even better TV. - I mean, this is one of the hottest stories for a long, long time, arguably. And she has the interview. I'm guessing this is very exclusive.

- Yes, they were fighting over this. - Okay, and so, and we're getting some real pain from this person. - Yeah. - Drama, TV drama can't come up with this kind of material.

- No way. - This is expensive stuff, okay? So, and she's there in the frame,

“and I think there's a pleasure in her being there.”

This lip-licking, I would say is what we call a grooming gesture or a hygienic gesture to make sure you're looking okay. They, am I looking good for this? It clears the proteins that can build up

at the side of your mouth or on your lips when stress is high. So, I'd say she's feeling stressed during this. Like, this is hot for her, yeah? Because this is a great moment of TV.

She's enjoying the great moment of TV. There's stress around getting this great moment of TV. And she's going, am I looking okay during this? Because the shot, the public ain't gonna be seeing me here. So, yeah, there's a lot here

that might not feel quite rightly, very good to viewers. And some of the other times, I see her. It's quite what I would call saccharine. It's a little bit, you know, she's up there and forward, it feels a little bit Drew Barrymore.

- Yes, you know? - Yes, in the framing mark, it feels intrusive where she's like

“Jack and I think the top of her body further into the frame,”

further into Savannah's personal space, which it's sort of like, I'm getting in here. I'm pushing myself into this narrative, but I gotta ask you something about the lip-licking and the eye thing, because like for me,

that lip-licking, it literally brought to mind the phrase, "Licking one's chops." Like, I'm relishing this, I am relicking my chops at the gory details that I'm getting out of you. And the eye flutter, it felt to me

like this was like a professional orgasm. (laughing) I like the idea, I like the idea, look.

Here's what I love the idea.

Here's why I'd push back on that. What I'd expect with the licking of the chops is you would get the actual tasting sensation as well, in the, 'cause a lot of this body language does come from the natural stuff we do every day.

Like discussed is literally smelling a bad thing. Yeah, and vomiting it up, disgustary. Yeah, the licking of the chops is like, okay, I'm getting these moist, so the food goes down better, but we would expect like a taste which would mean

that we'd get some slight indents in the, in the cheeks here. But listen, you know, viewers should just reel back on this bit, yeah, go and look that again and see whether you get these little indents here, which would suggest she's actually tasting

the meat of the content there as well, because, you know, I didn't see it as that, but you could absolutely be right. So reel back and take a look, see whether you see that. Regardless of how it shakes out, I just love that this is an actual conversation

we have had on the nerve about the motions of, of Haudestong, and what nefarious stuff it may imply, and it's a nerve award 2026 already marked. So you are winning one, okay, our final wrapping up of this and our time together.

I want to talk to you about the reaction of the today's show hosts on the couch. We're gonna take this in two parts. Lovely. This is immediately after they aired a good chunk

of the Savannah exclusive, again, this is the first time

she has spoken in terms of her mother was abducted. So weeks have gone by, we have all been curious

that they would mirror the viewer at home, like all in, glued again, like Hoda, top of my body's jackknife board. I don't know, and also watch Craig,

“the two guys on the right of our screen,”

most in particular, here we go. - I mean, Savannah's faith has been on display

over the years, but never quite like that.

I don't know if people realize that none of us have had much correspondence with her over his whole 54-day ordeal. So as we're watching this with the world, we're learning and unpacking so much about our dear friend.

- What do you make of it, Mark? I mean, yeah, I have thoughts, but tell me what you make of it. - So Craig, the absolute gravity has got everything apart from his, his one of his legs.

So gravity has taken hold of the whole of his torso. He's all the way down, the sides of his mouth are down, his hands are not buoyant at all. His hands are down by his side. It feels defeated, dejected, completely spent.

And he's the most of all of them,

“but they're all, either are or are playing this role”

of that was emotionally exhausting for us. Now, what I'd suggest here is that they're teaching us how to react to this interview. - I agree. - They're saying, hey, viewers,

here's how you should feel right now. That was emotionally exhausting for you. Like, you are, that was a cathartic experience. You are totally emotionally spent. Come back tomorrow, if you like that,

when I'm more of that for you tomorrow, come back for more of that, 'cause it is a great feeling when you get that, you know, you go more of that. - What the hell is this? - Yeah, I don't live hanger, you got a cliffhanger.

You know, with it, with it, Mark, we did interest you to know that I could read into Craig's defeatist attitude as having something to do with reports that came out of NBC in the days after, or hours after this interview, the Craig was pissed

beyond belief that not only did they give this one on one to Hoda, the mediocrity sitting next to him on this couch, but he wasn't even in the running to talk to her. - Really?

Yeah, is it because of, is it because of that? I don't know, if I was feeling like, yeah, I'm the backrunner now, now would be the time to step up. And go, and I've either give it some energies. Let me show you what I can do on this show,

or fall in line with what they may have been told, which is, hey, everybody, after this interview, you are absolutely emotionally-- - Drain. - Drain, draining.

- Our final clip, and this goes to your thesis that the job to be done here by these hosts is to tell the audience how to react, what to think and what to feel here we go. - Yeah.

- You get the sense by watching that, obviously, the grief is just unfathomable. It's hard to watch. It seems like she's found some peace. - I think she has found some peace.

“I think she has found some, but I think she wants”

the answers to, she says, yeah, she says that no one will steal the joy. No one can walk into their lives and steal that joy. - Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it? - Yeah, they're telling us, she's okay now.

- So, this story that has yet to reach its A conclusion which would be what happened to Nancy, who did it, and where she is, all unanswered, but Craig in a face and expression to me that reads like discussed, like he was directed to say this,

sounds like she's got some peace. - Yeah, so she can come back on the show then. So don't worry, audience, when she comes back on the show, you don't need to worry, it'll be a sunny day again. I mean, look at it, those yellow, I think,

daffodils in the front, it's a morning show. Morning shows are all about like, come on, let's get on with our day, it's gonna be okay. It's gonna, you don't want somebody leaving a morning show who you're going,

and they okay, you're gonna be okay, you're all right. 'Cause I got my own problem.

So I got a million on one of my own problems.

I need any anchor of a morning show to be the thing that drives me through the day, okay. Now she's super valuable, she was valuable in the first place. She's even more valuable now, because she's dealt with this tragedy,

and we've seen these incredible emotions from her.

In fact, an extreme version of us, we have tragedy,

she's got extreme unresolved tragedy.

“- Not just that, Mark, but it's another,”

it's another sort of example of be careful what you wish for. You can get all the fame and money and power and access in the world, and you will not be protected from something like this happening.

In fact, Savannah says in the interview, she thinks it's because of those things that her mother was taken. - Right. - So that, I think, too, is like one,

like she is way more valuable now. She is a ratings gold mine at least in the immediate. And I just think there's also resentment. I see resentment on that, so if we're still talking about this, we're still talking about this.

(both laughing)

- Well, here's what I always say, Maureen.

It's no safer in first class on a plane. It's just a better standard of misery. (both laughing) - No safer in first class if that plane's going to end.

“In fact, what they often say is if you're in the back,”

you got a better chance than you do. - You do. You do. - You do. - Better for of all metaphors. Mark, you are utterly front to back, brilliant.

We love talking to you. Thank you for bringing all of this down with us for a perfect Friday nerve. - Anytime. - Thank you, soon.

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(upbeat music) We are back and it is time for the best part of any nerve, trouble-maker feedback. This comes from trouble-maker Lauren, who resented email, which I'm so glad she did

because it had gotten pushed back in my inbox before. She says honored trouble-maker Lauren from New York. Yes, you can use my name. I am on my way to the airport, listening to your latest episode describing Megan's poop, poop,

to do poop ball retreat. Trouble-makers, do we have another word

“that rivals Shyamalama Ding Dong in being multisolabic?”

I mean, we've got to coin it just right for this poop ball retreat and she resented this previous email. And in it is a picture of their border colleague Hank, a true royal in his official garb. Oh yes, you are Hank, you are a true royal.

I think you might agree with me that he probably knows more words in the dictionary than Megan Markle. Oh, she calls multisolabic. Megan, keep on rockin', Lauren.

This is from Trouble-maker Michael. This is hilarious. He wrote a few stances called Tigers Nursery Rhymes. Hickory, Dickory, Doc, Tiger, couldn't even make it a block without flipping his car,

speeding to a strip bar, Hickory, Dickory, Doc. Doc, sorry, Hickory, Dickory, Doc. Doc, I think it's the whole thing so dark. One more tiger roses are red, violets are blue. Nancy Guthrie is missing was she run over by you?

We like it. This is Trouble-maker. I am welcome to say her name, Marlene. Although I've initially read it as Marlene, Hi, Marlene, I am a huge fan of the show.

I want to put forth a theory of when Megan Markle will announce her divorce. I love this theory. My Trouble-maker senses lead me to believe that the announcement will take place

around the time William and Kate are crowned the new monarchs. Imagine what better way to KO William and Kate and her future ex-husband Harry

It would be Megan's ultimate revenge, placing herself in the eye of the hurricane and having the press toggle between focusing on a historical event or a historical scandal. I like it.

We know Megan watches the show. I'm sure she's taken notes. Hi, Marlene, to this point. This Trouble-maker, I will call you Trouble-Maker C. I had only subscribed to the nerve on YouTube.

And so I went to the nerve.com to sign up today. The first site that came up was the nerve.News. I was confused because I thought maybe this is some kind of affiliate, it is not. Then Trouble-Maker C noticed that Megan Markle's photographer,

she says the one always defending Megan,

is part of their team. And I didn't think he would be part of the nerve, our nerve team.

“Yeah, I think something's fishy as well.”

Happy birthday, this is art from a Trouble-Maker, who I will have remain nameless. You say, fuck a lot, I do, oh my God, this dog, this dog denet included her dog, who has the same, coloring as Teddy Van Halen,

as my beloved TVH, she included her favorite Trouble-Makers. This is, I'm gonna take it to your partner or husband, wearing his nerve t-shirt that says, I'm a Trouble-Maker on the back. My favorite Trouble-Makers looking for Stedman in Florida. Thank you guys for keeping the search active

Dear Morine, Trouble-Maker C in Hollywood.

I've been living in denial for a year,

but as of today, I have the courage to admit. My addiction to the nerve, I am a comfortable, heterosexual male, who is dare I say it, on the verge of dying my hair, platinum blonde, or sticking it straight up, like Rob Shooter,

constantly saying, in some in substance and just my opinion, and sticking my right hand index finger upwards, whenever I make my best point, while beaming, my brightest smile saying, are you ready? Well, you know the drill, cheers, see, and Hollywood.

Morine, I am hardly approved, but you and your boss, MK, are out of control using the F word. How long until you start with see you next Tuesday? I'm about done with you. I've all read, okay, hi, Morine.

I emailed a few months ago regarding my review of Wicked For Good and touched on Matthew McConaughey. I'm grateful you did not read my email on the show then,

“because I said you should do an appreciation segment”

for celebs like Matthew. After hearing his poop prank on the CNN town hall with Shomalov and Ding Dong. CNN wonders why it's dying. They do a town hall with Shomalov and Ding Dong,

in which he makes another fatally, like you know, an unforced error to get that Oscar, and McConaughey sits there and says, yeah, I left a huge steaming pile of shit that I took in your trailer.

I felt like a fool.

It's not your fault to never blame the victim, trouble maker.

Okay, never blame the victim. There are really very few celebs we can appreciate, many of whom are not from recent generations. This is true. At least you know, as discussed, Ethan Hawke

is in like, excellent standing here at the nerve, probably forever on another note. Oh, by the way, many of you troublemakers commented and emailed, I mispronounced Kooky Beach in Australia. It's Kooji Beach.

Kooji Beach, I am sorry. Thank you for correcting me. I nearly died over the Kooji Beach poo balls. Let's just call them what they are. Their ship balls, their balls of shit,

their balls of shit washing up on the beach in front of the hotel. We're Megan Markle is doing her girls weekend, imminently, ship balls. Releasing sewage to the beach could deter Megan Markle.

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We're back. Now, we've got a really nice conflation of scandalous behavior on one side, the latest reaction to the Tiger Wood scandal, which is unfolding as we speak on the other side,

the idiots at the table at the view, giving their opinions on said scandal. Now, Tiger took two acts on Tuesday, March 31st, days after his arrest, okay? So trust me, there have been crisis meetings taking place.

Non-stop, how do we address this?

Well, Tiger's doing what he's always done.

He did this like 16 years ago. Oh my God, I'm saying you could go read it on X if you want. I won't even bore you. Some in substance, oh my God, I'm so sorry. I've realized now, I've got a real problem.

I need to step away and address it. ESPN reporting on April 1st, April would that this were an April Fool's story. Judge Grants Woods permission to leave the United States for treatment.

Tiger was asked for permission to leave the country and the judge gave it to him. Why he needs to leave the United States? Which has a rehabilitation industrial complex for the ages. There are rehabs all over the place at all price points.

He's got to leave the country. Why? Why?

“Is this judge unfamiliar with Matthew Perry's memoir?”

Published shortly before his death from drugs, in which he claimed to be sober and said he loved to leave the country. You know why? He could get a lot more drugs that way. All right, let's go to the ladies of the view.

Here we go, they were discussing it. I had it on in the background because I was like, I've got to take the nerve has to be as nimble as we can be. We know what we're dealing with over at the today's show. And yes, we will have our eyes on it all week long

as Savannah returns on Monday. April 1st, again, with it this were an epic April Fool's show. The ladies of the view, and filling in for Alyssa, who's the token conservative on that panel, is Whitney Cummings, who I find a pretty disturbed person

and really not funny. So she's sitting in that chair.

What be is going to offer the first opinion

about tigers' latest DUI in which he rolled his SUV he rolled a car for the second time that he hasn't killed somebody by now is nothing short of a miracle.

is what if a little kid had been out on the street

like riding their bike? What if... Webby!

“Let's hear from the brain truss known as Webby fucking Goldberg.”

Here we go. Some media personalities like Dave Portnoy. I don't know who that is. Are not police, hasn't it? Take a look.

I have no sympathy for the guy. What does he do? I don't know anybody who has ever rolled a car over. This guy rolls it over every two weeks. So what put him behind bars, put him in jail for a little bit,

make him wake up, get a driver, you're going to kill somebody. You're going to kill somebody innocent. That's true. You know, tigers in front of mine. And I wish him nothing but the best.

I don't like kicking a man when he's down. So Webby says I don't know who Dave Portnoy is. That is not a flex, Webby. Dave Portnoy is a very culturally relevant person. I am hardly a major sports fan, but I know who Dave Portnoy is.

Dave Portnoy is a lot more wealthy than you are.

“He is a lot more of an important presence in the media landscape than you are.”

Oh, tigers in front of mine. I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck how many famous people you know who you're going to carry water for. I don't like kicking a man when he's down. Well, then I guess we should just send nobody to prison ever because they're down.

That's basically what passes for brain activity in what B. Goldberg's head.

Whitney is going to pick up that baton and trot out the very well, the much overheated talking point about tiger needing a pass because he didn't have a childhood. Here we go. I'm a new mom and I, you know, feel like I want to make my child this over a cheaver who has a scale, but you know, his dad, you know, had him putting on TV at two and he didn't

talk to him. Henry about him was fast. He didn't get to have a childhood. You know, when I see this so much, I'm sure, you know, all of you have where if you didn't have a childhood, you're going to have to have it at some points.

You know, funny kid actors who didn't have a childhood and don't become drunk and drunk drivers. Same one. I mean, I'm kidding. I can name several.

Good for Joy Bay, her. I often, you know, like, it's like, she's the only one who's like, what are you talking about? Like, working as a child and not having a traditional child, should it give you free reign to drive drunk?

You know what, you know, how many of you I've heard from who say I lost somebody to a drunk driver? You know, okay, here comes our America's preeminent race, hustler, sunny Austin, who has filled the star-jones chair, remember when star-jones used to be played by Tracy Morgan

on SNL and Tracy Morgan at that table in drag would always be like, my name is star-jones

and I am a lawyer, sunny is always like, as a former federal prosecutor, we know, sunny, we know, but she's going to talk about, well, this is her, she's taken the talking point from Team Tiger, which has been pumped into the cultural water supply and offers this wholly unoriginal thought, while also minimizing the danger of someone being on drugs. On what, yeah, what Tiger called Narcos behind the wheel, here we go.

Yeah, he's not a drunk driver, but what I will say this is they found some hydrocodone in his pocket.

“He's had 20 surgeries and he lives with back pain and I think, you know, we talk about the”

opioid crisis in this country with such empathy and when it comes to Tiger Woods for some reason, we don't seem to have that empathy for him, I'm not excusing. I'm not excusing the fact that he was driving while under the influence, but I think we need to show someone who is a sports legend who may have been pushed very hard as a child and have some grace for the pain that he's living with and the fact that as an athlete,

he is now having to struggle with the fact that he may have to give up the one thing that he loves to do. You know what, it's called being a fucking grown-up, okay? The guy has more resources than most people ever would have access to. I don't care about his pain.

I care that he may take the life of an innocent person or persons because this guy at 50 years old cannot get his shit together and trust you me when I tell you that if this had been a white athlete who had been in his fourth serious car, crash under the influence,

incomes the useless Sarah Haynes, Sarah who's the nice one from the Midwest who's constant refrains no matter the topic are. On the one hand, there's this and on the other hand, there's this. She is as dull as a butter knife. I don't know why she is at that table and she's also

going to read from, she's always the one that producers are handing cards to you saying,

read off these data points. Here we go. He is getting the treatment. It's because whenever I see him, whenever I see him, I see such sadness in his eyes. Like again, I know how important it is to do not drink under the influence.

Almost 50. They found it. No alcohol. You're right. What be? It's enough. It drugs an alcohol that they're both bad, driving high out of

his mind, flipping a two in the afternoon. Get the fuck out of here. Here come the data points. Here we go. I know that 54% of drivers tested positive for alcohol and drugs in serious, serious crashes. So people die every day. That is very serious.

“I think Tiger Woods has been in a lot of pain for a long time and I don't mean”

just physically.

So I really hope he gets what he needs and finds some points.

What about the rest of us law-biting citizens out here who don't want our lives in jeopardy because this rich asshole is constantly getting a past. Tiger is not sorry. I will go back and look at his presser. We played some of it on a very recent nerve.

One that we aired this week, he's not sorry. He's sorry. He got caught. He's sorry. Now he's got to do all this shit to act like he's sorry. He's not sorry. Here's joy talking some real talk.

Like some actual sense. Here we go. No one had very rich. He should get a driver. Just not just in timbre. Yeah.

Oh. But I do want to say that he told he did test as would be just said negative for alcohol. But he did tell investigators that he had had a, he took prescription medication and informed them that he's had seven backstories and over 20 operations on his leg and he's living with severe chronic pain.

Then don't drive. If you have such severe chronic pain, sorry you did it to yourself. You stayed in the game way too long. If you have such severe chronic pain, don't fucking drive.

“If you want to be off your face on opioids all day long, have at it don't fucking drive.”

And all those hardens at that table, except for joy, Bayhart got their talking point. Oh, he wasn't drunk. Oh, he wasn't drunk. They're trying to make this a high class problem. He's a junkie.

Just my opinion, he's a junkie. Joy, again, questions. Why can't this guy hire a fucking driver? Here we go. I'm not telling you.

I can't get a driver. I'll tell you why. He's rich. Well, just, you know, it's nice to have a driver.

But it's also, you don't want to be that guy that says, well, why is he always driving around

that guy driving? You know, you can't win. Yeah, you can't win. Yeah, that's a leadist. Yeah, that's a leadist.

Oh, that's a leadist. You know, that face would be makes that like she goes in. She's like, you know, I'm going to have to do it. I'm going to have to risk talking about the parallels of being a really rich famous woman. That we all be a who, rather, we all made rich in famous, oh, you know, you don't want

to be that person.

“Like, why is that person always being driven around?”

You know, we live in an Uber economy at all of us get driven around. What be? It just depends what like level of vehicle we're getting driven around in. And by the way, we all know people who are like, I'm going to go out and party and so I'm getting an Uber or I'm hiring a car service.

What the fuck is she talking about? It's a leadist. It's a leadist. You're going to set yourself apart. Tiger Woods has been set apart from the rest of us for the bulk of his natural life.

Okay. That's just how it is. We're all cool with it. We expect a guy at that level to be chauffered around to have a security team to move throughout the world in ways the rest of us don't need to or have to for multiple reasons.

But we're good out here, we're totally cool. And by the way, what be, why don't you tell your audience how it is. You get to work every day at the ABC studio. She lives in New Jersey. You think she's getting in her car and driving herself to work and driving.

She's not. She's got a driver, but I guess that would be to a leadist for what be to admit. She's talking out of both sides of her mouth. She's an embarrassment. This show is an embarrassment.

I mean, I'm not saying anything new here, but as we continue to surgically take it apart,

I mean, ABC really needs to remove the view from the news division.

ABC, the view is considered news.

“The view is considered news, just consider it entertainment, just consider it entertainment.”

So they can spout their name uninformed bullshit with such confidence all day long. We're going to close out who can ever forget this bang or this bang or that would be Goldberg has largely successfully had scrubs from the internet just my guess, just my opinion, hard to find, not impossible on Roman Polansky who fled the United States. Another one, looking to get out of the United States, because he was about to be tried and

sent to prison for a very long time for raping a 13 year old girl. Analy, I have the grand jury testimony of said girl and the amount of time she says in here, she said to Roman Polansky, I said, I just want to go home. Here we go. It's not charged.

I know it wasn't rape rape. Yeah. There was such a story.

“I was trying to tell you something, but I don't believe it was rape rape.”

And that does it, that does it for your Friday edition of the nerve. Now, a quick editorial note. The nerve is taking a one week long spring break, even the wicked do need to rest. But we will have our eyes and ears everywhere, not to worry and we will be back here to say April 14th with a nice full nerve and we will get to everything that went on or is

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