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Tell them you're a troublemaker and that the nerve sent you. Joining us now, the only rob shooter of the must subscribe sub-stack naughty but nice. He's also the best selling author of it started with a whisper and one of the most fun people who dish with. If you haven't yet, go get your copy of Rob's book. It's started with a whisper. It is the perfect, busy, fun, summer, read.
Hello, Rob. Hey, thank you, my friend. It's I look forward to seeing you every week. A nice hair today. I like it all straight. Very nice.
It looks great. Thank you. I'm saucy, little minks, you. Okay. You look great too. You look very sun-kissed and lovely.
Look at walking, walking, walking around the York. That's all it is. Okay. First things first, Rob, we had a bomb shell last week from Lady C. She reports that her very high-placed sources tell her that Harry has another woman that he is "in love with the other woman" and the other woman is "in love with him" that Megan knows that she reportedly found incriminating texts on Harry's phone
and that Megan is reportedly livid. What are you hearing?
Yeah, well, I never bet against Lady C.
I love it when she's on your show.
I think I would be addicted to her. She's so much fun. But she is the real deal. I'm British. I know people in London and it's easy to dismiss her or to pretend that she's a joke. She's not. She really knows this family. She really, really grew up in this world. I don't know anything about this affair. I've hit the phones.
I've called everybody that I know in the Royal Circles and they don't know. But like me, they wouldn't dismiss this rumor and they also too. I think this is important. One is to put it into some context. Lots of royals have had affairs.
His father famously had an affair with Camilla Parker Boles. And so this family, this tradition of being a royal, has often turned the eye to bad. Behavior, the Queen's husband, Prince Philip, was notorious for having a wondering eye.
And so would it be any surprise to me that this behavior has been passed down?
It has been learned. Absolutely not. There's been rumors too about his brother William. There is something that is so corruptive about absolute power.
“And that's what these royals have from the day that Harry was born.”
When people walked into a room, think about this. When he was a little boy, growing men and women had to bow and cutesy. That messes with your head. I'm not making any excuses here for Harry, but I want to put it into that context. He grew up thinking that he was a member of a family that had been anointed by God.
God decided that his father was going to be king. God decided that his grandmother was going to be queen. It's got to change the way that you deal with people, the way that you deal with the world. And so I wish I could tell you, you know, I did more than I have a day, but a day to the place I don't. But we shouldn't be that surprised.
I think it's only a matter of time before whoever this woman is is revealed. I take everything that you say to heart. I think the difference here and what makes people... ...gleeful about this is that these two hypocrites have been on their high horse ever since Meghan came on the scene. This is a love story, like no other royal love story.
You know, since Wallace Simpson and Edward and he abdicated for her, not because he was a Nazi. That wasn't the problem. No, it was true love. But you know what I'm saying?
“And she's like, you know, that interview she gave to Jamie Kern Lima last year.”
And she was like, that man just loves me so much. Like, that's a direct quote. That man just loves me so much. Just like she's got to come in. You don't have to be royal to know this.
Maybe you're that person, maybe your friends are that person.
But it's always the couples that set themselves up.
Just so high a mighty, that whole couple, the trouble. I had an experience with this. I used to work, make sure resting piece with Kate Spade. Kate set that marriage up with Andy through the press. And maybe not entirely her own fault.
But it's the perfect couple. And no couple is perfect. So she every couple has his ups and downs. And once you're out there, like Megan, like Harry, really laying it on to thick. Then somebody is going to burst that bubble rightfully so though.
It's a hypocrite. It's like yes. Do you know what reminds me of? Do you know what reminds me of? This is kind of a deep cut.
But I really do like this person and enjoy her and think she's like a value add to the culture.
“But do you remember when Kathy Lee Gaffard was the co-host with Regis?”
And every day she got on that show. And she was thump in her Bible. And she was talking about how Frank was the greatest man on the planet. And their marriage was the most perfect marriage of all time. And then the tabloids bust him with like an airline stewardess in a hotel room.
And he's complaining to the airline stewardess that his wife won't give it to him through the rear end. You know what I'm talking about? That's when people get lethal. When you are taking that bullhorn and saying that your life is so much better than everybody else's. Because you have a love story that nobody else will ever experience.
That's what they say. They're ripping that nose of it. We all want love. We all want to find happiness. We all want that moment.
And when we have people at that, particularly in the public eye, that's sort of gleefully rubber nose in it that deliberately go out their way to make us feel small. If your relationship is good as you say it is then shut up. Because there's only two people that need to know you and Harry.
And you both probably know it. Whenever I have friends whenever I meet celebrities when I live out, I interview somebody. And they just plea their case a little bit too hard.
I always wait for the other shoe to drop.
If in fact, your guess that it was a great interview. If in fact, your guess is right. This will shake the house of Sussex. This will be Titanic. And they've only got themselves the blame.
Because a lot of marriages go through infertility. A lot of marriages go through difficult times. The differences they set this up as the love story of the century. And maybe that's not quite true.
“This is how I think you can easily tell.”
Online who is actually secretly miserable and hates their life. They make their Instagram account look like they're having the best time ever. That's when you know they're trying to prove something to get most of all to themselves. Absolutely. But anything I've learned from celebrity culture from being a columnist or even a publicist
is authenticity always wins.
It always wins. It's so true. You admit that you're vulnerable. That is not your weakness. That is your super strength. Think where we would be with Megan and Harry today.
If they had really, really exposed everything. And they didn't. They were so selective about what they wanted to control. We can use them word manipulative. We can say hypocritical.
But this will take the cake. If this love story that they sold us, we didn't impose this on them. They're the ones that wanted this marriage. They're the ones that wanted everything to be so over the top. They're the ones that want to sit down with Oprah and hold hands and talk about it.
Then this is the world. When she do that, you better live here. I love his page six eyes. If you don't want to page six, don't do it.
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It's the greatest. If you don't want it on the nerve, don't do it. Don't do it. I love it Rob. Now to that point about people's Instagram accounts.
Like the inverse proportionality of any given person's true private happiness. Versus what they display on Instagram.
“I believe that Meghan Markle was definitely not at all reacting to the nerve at night last Wednesday.”
And these bombshells that ladies see was dropping. Like she just dropped bond bonds out of her handbag. Oh, it's gorgeous. Oh, fair. Oh, you know, I died.
I died. So Meghan, let's the 48 hours throws this whole tab low upon Instagram. You know, opening with like the happy couple. You know, I mean, this could be from eight years ago. Who knows?
And I mean, judging by Harry's hair, it was years and years ago. I've learned a thing or two from Teddy, my C.I. But secondly, secondly, she posts them. What looks like the family walking to Diana's grave. Oh, we should sacred ground. She was buried there precisely.
So that she could have the privacy that she was not afforded in life. So that she could have that dignity and death. And Meghan does this. And to me, this is, this is it. This is it.
The next time Harry wants to go back. I don't think that the royals will receive her at all. Lady sees that King Charles made her wait in the hallway while he received
“Harry in the children first. I think next time, it's going to be.”
She is not welcome. She can't be trusted. She can't be trusted. She'll pull out a camera anywhere. It's really, I read your column for the Daily Mail Plus.
It was excellent. Thank you. It's sacred ground. And you're allowed to go there. You're, you're her son.
There's her grandchildren. But don't post a picture. Don't do that. You could look at the picture in your own home. You could have a picture.
I've got many pictures on my phone that I don't post. So I don't post it. She did it on purpose. And I know why she did it. She wants to remind the world that she carried Princess Diana's grandchildren.
She was allegedly reported. That's a problem. And we went after Lady C. That's correct. She was.
She wants that royal connection, that royal association. And the irony of this is she spent the last five years trying to run away from it. She spent the last five years trashing everything but this family. Yeah. It's stood for including Diana.
Diana was a monochist. Yeah. Diana loved the royal family. She probably loved them too much. And that's probably why she got herself in the trouble that we saw throughout her life.
But she loved this family.
She never wanted to blow it up.
She wanted to reform it. Megan's an artist. She wants to burn this house down. And to do that, to be that selfish, to be that insecure. For her to need us to think well of her and post a picture like that.
It's just so close. It backfired. If she wanted any positive press, any positive feelings, she got the opposite. This reminded everybody who she was. My reporting is that William exploded.
William really. William knows that picture. He's walked down that path. Let me tell you something. William's been there many, many times with his wife and children.
He has never posted a picture.
Charles has a more complicated relationship, particularly with all Spencer. But Charles knows that estate. When he was a young man, he spent a lot of time there. It was so obvious where they were. And she thought she was being clever and coy and cool.
Well, she was being repulsive. I think that this. You know, even the king was stunned by this is my reporting. William was furious. But the king who's trying to give her and him the benefit of the doubt trying.
And even he can't defend. And I people that would defending Megan to me before that picture stopped defending when they saw that picture. I mean, you would think she would have learned from the global revolution of her driving by Diana's death tunnel in that limousine and crossing her ankles on the back seat of the car. As though she were in just leisurely repose.
And William reportedly was in a fury about that. Like how many times does this poisonous scorpion need to strike you before you say, like, I'm going to just avoid this altogether. This is a persona. This is a, this is, I refer to people like this as non-negotiable personality. It's not negotiable.
It's never learned a single fucking thing.
“That's really good. It's not negotiable. I think William's there.”
I think Kate's there. I think William's there. I think the king is a very weak man. And I think that I think that this is stunned. My, my reporting was that he didn't quite believe that she did that because there was no need to do it. She wasn't doing it to, to, to, to, for any logical reason.
She was doing it because she doesn't care about anybody but herself. And she wants clapped and she wants followers. Yes. And I think. And I think, yes. And I do think it definitely was a reaction to the nerve.
It's to me, the, the, the, the bulk of those photos and what she's trying to communicate is, I am the royal here. I'm not going anywhere. This is my husband. This is my territorial pissing on said husband and on his hollowed ground.
So I don't care who you may be or may not be effing on the side. I'm not leaving. I think you're right. I think you're right. You know, I spent a long time in publicity when something bit,
when something was true, would always have a controlled reaction.
We would always have, normally a photograph.
“It's the best way for celebrities to respond because it says a lot with her actually saying anything.”
That picture said everything you just said and more and the timing is never a coincidence. Certainly not for Meghan Markle. And so whenever, whenever big news is going to break, you try to distract. Whenever big news does break, you certainly distract. So it felt like a distraction to me, but it just goes to show you that she is willing to throw her dead mother-in-law under a bus
to stop a story that she doesn't like, which is potentially true. We don't know. Stop it from getting traction. Who does that? Who does that?
Post a picture of your kids. Post a picture of you eat nice green beans silly. You know, there are certain lions and people's death. Is that lion? She's buried on that island for one reason to stop people doing this.
They want visitors. It is open to the public. I'm sure Harry and Meghan are welcome there. Whenever they want, the kids are welcome. You don't need to do that.
You didn't need to do that.
“Rob, you have another exclusive about Meghan's”
quote, "master chef meltdown." We just went through that botched appearance yesterday. Insiders, this is amazing. Say, cast and crew. Excuse my throat, cast and crew. Counted the minutes until she left quote by the end of the day.
Everyone was just praying for the taping to be over one production. Insider tells your naughty, but nice. She carried herself like she was Julia Roberts arriving to shoot a blockbuster. This is Master Chef Australia. The team has worked with award winners.
World famous chefs and global stars.
They've never experienced anything quite like this.
When will people learn Rob? It's so setting to me because I know we've done enough television shows. We've been guests on enough shows. You know the minute you walk in by the crew. The crew tells you everything. The host is normally the chef.
It's the crew. It's the hair and the makeup people. It's the crew. When I come and do your show live. You tell me we've been two minutes that it's a happy set. You just even know when you walk on to a show.
We've been on tricky shows. We've been on fun shows. This is normally a really fun show. I know people who have been guests on the show. I even know a couple of contestants.
I have friends down in Australia. They say it is such a pleasure. It is such an upbeat. It's a cooking show. It's not a show. I'm a family drama.
The worst thing that can happen is you're so flamed.
It doesn't rise. That's not a drama on the show.
“They were looking forward to having her.”
There's nothing worse. When you're really excited about meeting somebody and you think it's going to be great. They are everything you don't want them to be. She's difficult. She's moody. She's demanding.
She's just not a team player. She comes with a chip on her shoulders.
and I always told that within 10 minutes they know, they know immediately.
- You can tell by watching, you feel the second hand frustration, you feel the second hand effort of trying to get this trick over the finish line, she brought nothing to the show, she had nothing to contribute, she knows nothing, she did zero homework, she didn't even seem to know how the show worked. - Like the most of the show, po! How to like narrate and real time, now we're doing this.
“- Now we do this, what have I said, I don't think it made it into the story, but I had a great quote,”
that she was treated almost like a guy, like she like she needs a guy dog and they were like, - Oh, here's your blind guy dog! - You're so cute! - You're so cute! - You're so cute! - You're so cute! You're so cute! You're so cute! - You're so cute! She didn't quite really know the length of the show, she didn't know if it was half an hour or an hour. - Are you serious? - Are you serious? She didn't catch the camera, she didn't pay any attention to them,
she was nice to the contestants, I'm told, but they'll never speak to her ever again,
and I'll never see her ever again, and so I'm told the whole experience was really frustrating. The cast, the crew were really disappointed, and one insider told me that the last time they'd be in on a show that felt this toxic was the hell in show, that it just, and it's not normally like that, this show I'm told is a really fun experience, it's shot many, many seasons, it's a huge hit in Australia, it's laid back, it's an Australian fun show,
and the whole reason she went on that show was to pretend that she was that, and she couldn't pretend off camera, so on camera, she might've seen as if she was enjoying herself, I'm told she was so so difficult, when they broke for lunch, she was difficult, when they told her what they needed her to do, she was difficult, when producers wanted to give her note, she was difficult, when now hearing reporting that she had words that she had banned from the
set like royal, and others, don't go on these shows if you don't go to play, don't do it, and we've exactly come to play, come to play, come to play, as a second third guest on a show, I can't tell you which wrong song is getting too much trouble, but Andy Cohen was the lead guest, he turned up in sunglasses, and he didn't take them off, he was, it took me full, was he did he seem to you, just your opinion, to be all over, there's a very early
morning show, he was hungover, he was smelly, he didn't want to be there, he was disheveled, and he stuck it in, and he had his sunglasses on, and everything else, and I was like, don't come, don't, if you're going to be like that, don't come. I love that story too, because again, it's ever more evidence as to why Andy will be stuck at Bravo forever, that's his ring of hell, no executive will ever hire him at any other
media outlet, and number two, it's, it's so funny because Andy like Megan, right, you can palpably feel how much they, they need to be famous, they need to be famous, they love being famous, they love name dropping, they love splattering their lives all over social media, but then they treat the actual, like the work you have to do to become a celebrity, they don't want to do any of that, they just want people to love them, so incomes Andy,
stinky smelly Andy, roll it in on over, Megan, Megan, roll it again with her attitude, it's so, so true, Dio, I love getting recognized, I love doing your show, I like being a little bit famous myself, but I'd rather be sitting with you at bot alone as having a, for a disorder, like I have a pride, like I have a life, right, and these people that don't have it, you can feel it, you can feel it, you can feel it, you can just, they would throw them
mother under it, yes, just, and that's what Megan's doing, what she did with Dio, Anna, and goodness knows Andy's throwing everyone of those housewives under the bus, too, but yeah, it's just the feeling, Megan and Harry have a very similar feel. They do, but Megan in particular,
“and I think that's why, and we're going to move off of her, but I think that's why,”
no matter how many of these things that she does, whether it's her own Netflix show or
master chef Australia, she can never get loose, she can never just be herself, because I don't
think she knows who she is, and I think what she does know of herself, she doesn't like, you know, like there's a, there are moments in that master chef episode where, like, she's doing the tasting with the judges, and then she looks to the judge, and it's like, she's trying to decipher on their face what they think, so she can know what to say, if he doesn't trust her own taste. She doesn't trust her own taste, she doesn't trust her own taste, it must be an awful way to live,
it must be a particularly awful way to live in the spotlight, but you asked for this, you wanted this, you've always wanted to be famous, I don't know how much sympathy with people that
Really, really, really try to be famous, and then once they become famous, th...
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cowboy colostrum.com/mourine. He is now in solitary confinement, following an alleged fight with another inmate, now your reporting is very interesting, and it doesn't surprise me, I think it might surprise the trouble makers. Before we get to what this means for Ditty and what he thinks it will do for him, do we know any specifics who started the fight? Was it again fight? Was there a sexual component
involved as there often is in prison? What do we know? We know very little about the background on this fight, in fact the only reason we know about it is Ditty's people seeing to have run to an outlet and the point that they wanted to make was that he stood his ground. Now I know Ditty, I've worked
with Ditty, did he never stands his ground? He always has somebody else to do it. He ran like
“a little bit, like that's what probably happened here, and so they wanted to get that story out”
before the truth comes out. I think with Ditty and clubs with his bodyguards, I've been in Ditty with Ditty going through airport security. He's an absolute pussy, he's a complete phony, everybody around him does all the muscle work, Ditty's got the mouth, and I'm sure his mouth is what got him in trouble in the canteen or in jail, I'm sure you're like in world working with the US, so Ditty's against you. But I know Ditty is that the criticism of Ditty in the
Rap World when I was working with him and it hasn't changed, is that he really wasn't gangster,
he really wasn't, he was a middle-class kid, he grew up with the armish, he went to school with
armish kids, he learned how to play the piano, like he had sort of like a middle-class background, and so when he became famous, he was very, very keen to get rid of that very, very quickly,
“and so that's why he looked so fuggish, and that's why image was so important to him,”
and even in jail I did chuckle when I read this story, they clearly wanted out that he stood his ground, and now he's in solitary confinement because he stood up to these bullies, he ran to solitary confinement, he locked himself in and he said, "Mommy, make those bullies go away." I just don't believe, I don't believe. I love this, I couldn't agree with you more, people forget, I mean again if you're not of a certain vintage, Ditty, I would call this the
stolen valor of the street, he made Biggie Smalls, like his siamese fucking twin, Biggie Smalls couldn't go anywhere without Shawn Comes, and Biggie Smalls was the real gangster, Biggie Smalls was the real deal, it was a hardcore drug dealer, okay, when he wrapped about, he lived, Shawn Comes was regarded as soft, you know, and when I read solitary, I thought those prison guards put him in solitary for his own protection, not that's a protect the other
inmates from him. Oh no, Ditty's no threat to that, you know, Ditty's frightened that someone's going to bruise his pretty face, he's like, "Please lock me away from these monsters, I would
“love to be at the VIP section." That's what he'll be thinking of this, I do chuckle though,”
he'll be enjoying these headlines, he consumes press, like nobody I've ever ever met, he loves being a celebrity, he's a total foe day, and so now, I chuck into these though, the media is still
Going along with it, we know, we know, is it interesting?
Why are they going along with it? It's a much better story, the truth is funnier, it's a better story,
mine side is who know him, they know him. They said he is such a scary Mary, if a car fires, he runs down the street, he's the one that checks the security a love, four times before he goes to bed, he's the one that is worried, but puts the seat belt up before you're allowed to drive, it's like, "I'm like, it's okay, you go to bed." "You guys in bulk, just to be safe, right?" "I'm in bulk!" Always prepared, he's like a breakout, always prepared. But he wants to pretend to be such a
not sure about a puff. Paul! We'll see him soon, I'm sure now before we get to Andy, a Jason cultural offender, I need to talk to you about Sunny Austin and what you may be hearing, we did a special report, we went through her son, he graduated from Harvard, he teaches geometry to fourth graders in South Bronx, we went through Gabriel Huston's LinkedIn, and it's bare bones,
“my man, it is bare, I think bones, and that piece, we had no idea it was going to land the way it”
did that thing, there's no fucking viral, which tells us here at the nerve, Rob, the people really fucking hate Sunny Austin. So, what are you hearing? I'm hearing they hate hypocrites, like, and she's the ultimate hypocrite, and once you're exposed, like, she is, and partly that is your credit, I think people are ready to push back, she's the one that said no one's above the law, she said it over and over again, except when it comes to her son, getting in trouble, and then suddenly that
I'm above the law, you can't set yourself up, you can't set yourself up to just be pushed over, none of us, none of us, a saint, none of us should be that earnest, because it's not true, we're all vulnerable, and it had she handled it like that, I think we probably have some sympathy for her, it's difficult being a mom, we know her son's going through stuff, it's very mysterious,
well, he was even there. Okay, let's pause for a second. We must, we must, he's 24 years old.
See, it's 34. He comes from a wealthy family, he was down by the train tracks, passing any number
“of no trespassing signs, where there are a multitude of porta potty's. Now, I think that this”
is looking more and more, like, as you, you put it looking for a few moments of love. I would say, looking for the glory hole, looking for a few seconds, just a little tug, or looking for some illegal contraband, such as drugs, there are really only two reasons to be down by the train tracks and the porta potty's. There's only two reasons, if she, if she, not maybe admitted that, but just hadn't been so whole other than that, if she talked about, we've had substance abuse,
many families know what mental and stuff, I would have gone there with it, but she did it.
Mental illness is always the best, like, sort of safety, right? It's not addiction, it's mental health.
Yes, that's right. Right, we're not saying Gabriel's a drug addict. No, we're not. We're not saying that. No, it's mental health. And those, that, when she's not hearing that, then your number is going to come. I mean, she, she must know by now, she must have sat her sundown and said privately, what happened? Like, what was really going on? And so I think the view is very lucky that Ron, hi, I just now, I think that they're often till September. And so,
I think that will buy her a little bit of time, but the story is not going to go anywhere. And the police know, the police know there was something up here, and so this isn't just going to disappear. It's, she's made it worse for herself. This is an ugly story, it's an embarrassing story, and she has dug a deep, deep hole, not only for a self-helpful her son. I feel a bit bad for him. I don't, he had his mug look on his face and he was like, talk to my mother, she's a former federal
prosecutor and hey, you're not in this misdemeanor down to a citation. How about you just cut me loose period? I don't. I wouldn't do anything was good enough for this kid. And the cops had the kindness rob to act as though when he said he, he was working out, like they, they, they, they acted like that was a legit experience. Those cops have seen some shit, okay. They all, they all, there's something with a hate. He just accepted the reduced charge. This is what got him, but just shut up. Some people
“are so greedy. They don't, they are. They're willing to, they are so entitled. Yeah, that's what”
is, it's just total entitlement. And she's done this, this is you sonny, this is you. It's the
Both of them.
in the New York Post. A lot of the more left-leaning outfits are not reporting upon it because
sonny's of their stripe. But like they had two, two sources who I call cop one and cop two. Okay,
“I think the minute they've finished with this collar and writing up their report, their first call”
was to page sex. You want, you want to hear some really good shit. Okay, you have been exclusive and I love this because I cannot wait, this, this is another piniatta, a cultural piniatta, Carol Radzo will, it's viewing, viewing don't you know, as Bravo turns her Rooney come back, that's real housewives of New York into an Epstein story, your exclusive according to Insiders. Radzo Will was blind side, I mean, again, she's been in the media for decades.
Blindsided when the preview featured a bystander shouting, she's the one from the Epstein files before co-star side to silver, asks if Carol ever visited Epstein's private island, your insider tells naughty but nice. Carol thought she was coming back to tell the next chapter
of her life. Instead, the very first thing viewers see is a controversy. She believes she'd already
put binder like that guy, she married who had cancer so she could get close to John Junior, reportedly allegedly. What are you hearing? It's just so, it's so stupid of her because she understands the media, but when it comes to herself, she's blinded by her own success or power or fame, all of which she thinks she has. I've been in restaurants with Carol, nobody recognizes her. She's not, so for somebody on the street to scream, she's in the Epstein file,
I think that person might have been a bravo in turn, I've only that too, but since they do that all just don't believe they set it up. I've been on that show a couple of times. I was Mike, I was prepared by producers, I had conversations of what I would say, I'd had to film a scene with Bethany and they told me to like push her buttons by saying this, they they snap the
“deck and that's why it's delicious, that's why it's great TV. You are more of a prep than”
Meghan Markle on, I'm not sure if you're a prep and Meghan Markle. And so Carol went back to the show now where it was announced that she was returning, I did call bravo and and say is this going to be an Epstein reckoning, are you going to go there and bravo or quite firm pushing back saying barely, we might mention it, we can't, we don't control what the women say, but they might mention it, but we don't plan for this to be a storyline, now they've dropped the trailer,
the trailer, the first introduction to this show, and we see five really dull people talking
about New York and they'd like Scooby do like, we hear Epstein, what I do find alarming, but also to delicious about this is that everybody in the media, who I know, who has any contact with Jeffrey Epstein, is running away from the story, only bravo would run towards it, I would
“it bravo would say, we could use Epstein to save the real housewives, and that's what the”
gamble is here, will the audience be baited, to tune in, to find out what Carol knew about a monster, or will just that word, Epstein, be enough to turn people off. Either way, Carol's the loser here, and shame on you, because Andy has scrubbing you under a burst, many, many times you fell out, you didn't speak for a while, you made Fred, you came back and before the shows it would start to the trailers that everybody, everybody, of your relationship with Kelly Daxwell and ex-steed.
Zero sympathy for Carol Radwell. She knows how this game is played. This plot point elevated her from a reported friend of, which makes you support and cast member, and you don't get paid much money to the center. She's holding the center asshole, and then in that same trailer Rob, we see her bereft on a beach alone. Oh, guess what's nearby? The carcasses of Carol and beset Kennedy and JFK Jr on which she's feasting yet again, saying, oh everyone else is American
love stories, my American horror story referencing Ryan Murphy, and then she's going to turn around on the reunion, you know this, and say, do not ask me about that. Just stop her leg. Do not ask me. I dare you, have rude of you to report that. She's a piece of work. She loves this. She loves the attention. I see anything like dating. She's enjoying every minute of this. So let's be honest, when they filmed that scene on the street, when a alleged stand somebody,
when there's somebody screamed, Epstein at her, she could have turned. It's not a life show. She could have turned the producer and said, I'm at that. That's it. I'm not film. The rest of the season does. Really important. I didn't do it. Also because she is your leverage. She knows if she said, I'm out. They'd be like, bye. We don't care. And by the way, the other thing that how it strikes you is false, you're so right about this, because I am sorry, that is not the
Way New Yorkers role.
felons walking the street. I passed Eliot Spitzer once on the street in Midtown, Manhattan,
“and by the way, he gave me the eye. We did. It's disgusting. Disgusting. He was the former”
governor of New York who went to prison for sex trafficking, or whatever, that the man act. He got a hooker across the state lines. Sex workers, excuse me. Anyway, it's not like people were walking down the street going, Eliot Spitzer, you know, Scarlett, eh, like nobody does that. Like the New Yorkers don't give a shit. I'm feeding two restaurants where Harvey Weinstein was sitting there. This is pretty close to where they all exploded. They don't say anything. It just
is so unlikely that this would happen. And she's not that famous. If anybody would recognize that either connects her to the Kennedys, or to Steven Tyler, so it's cool. That's right. No, I've sat in restaurants with her. I've been in bars with her. I've been out of vents with her. They don't know who she is. Bethany's more famous. Oh Bethany's way more famous. So Teresa, you teach you flip the tables more, more famous. Carol misses the spotlight. She, she melts that Kennedy trained for everything
she could and they came to an end. And it literally now her story should be from Kennedy to Epstein. Like just that's where it is now. And so another repulsive person she's holding on to for fame
“and success. And I have braver fans don't fall for it. I really do. I mean, how much was?”
What are they going to have next, like a relative of starlings on the show? Are we going to have Harvey Weinstein's, there's like nothing they want to do. There's nothing they want to. I mean, the reporting is and very few outlets will touch upon it. But that on Epstein's island, like they're looking for bodies. You know, they escalated to just snuffing out, you know, their sex traffic to victims. And this is how desperately Carol wants to be famous while pretending
she's above fame. And like we all see you, you trick. We all see you. We see you. I think she's like Meghan Markle vis-a-vis like Meghan Markle would like to exume Diana and skin her and wear her
like buffalo bill. And Carol, I think, always lived in a position of kind of repressed rage and fury
that she wasn't as beautiful, glamorous, sought after and admired as Carol and vicinity. And now the CBK is dead, this is her moment. It's her turn in the spotlight. Got to get it. We're going
“to exploit it. That's what it is. I remember when the love story came out and shipping edged it out.”
She's not even did it. That's right. That's no, she's not even did it. Her husband's in it. Her late husband's in it. But she's not it. And they said and rhymes in the right to the room and said, you know, we don't really need that, Carol. Like, could I write? We don't know. And that was quite true in real life. She's made herself a much bigger part of that Kennedy story than really was. And now she's trying to do the opposite. She's trying to make
herself a much smaller part of the Epstein story in her defense. And we should point this out.
She claims that she's never met Jeffrey Epstein, that she barely knew Galein Maxwell. I think a lot of
people dispute that. The fact that Galein took the photograph in her book, the photograph, the authors, the photograph is credited to Galein Maxwell. We're authors. We know that people that take, that isn't just a random shot. That's not just some silly thing you throw up on Instagram. It's your best entire day. You do really think about it. And her and Galein sat there and thought about it and discussed it. They were really, really close. And if you were close that close to Galein,
I just don't buy that you weren't close to Jeffrey. He was her life. Can't wait to see how this unfolds for Carol. Okay. Now onto another cultural offender, top one here at the nerve. Obrothers, platonic life partner Gale King. The New York Post had a great report last Friday. CBS Wakeup Call, the head of the president of CBS News is under fire, because CBS mornings had its lowest rated week ever. A bore headline. Gale King is
glueless. I love this quote. She still thinks everyone wants her. You've got this amazing amazing quote that Gale walks into booking meetings still. Like she's Oprah with a coffee mom.
The problem is that everyone's noticed the ratings because that's their business. It's the
money dummy. It's a money. You don't sit down with your favorite person. You sit down with the show that's going to sell the most record. You sit down with the show that's going to sell the most books. And the CBS Morning Show is really, really underwater. They're numbers have never been
This bad.
a show if you're not going to promote anything. At the moment, I looked at their upcoming schedule. It's all CBS starts who have been blackmailed into it. So it's just their own. So they're not getting any major talents now. And if they are getting them, they appear to be at junkets. They don't appear to be coming into the studio anymore. Those morning shows, you don't visit them to hang out with your friends. You go there to sell something. When you're in the green room,
everybody's selling something, including me and you when we go on the shows, we're selling books. Or trying to get more people to watch our podcasts and stuff. And so everybody there is to sell something. And once it stops selling, you stop going. We're not friends. We're not family. We don't hang out. It's a transaction. And Gayle doesn't get that. Gayle thinks everybody's there for Gayle that they just like me. And so that's not true. And it's going to be a really, really
bit of pill when she looks around and sees. She got no one to talk to without guests. Those two anonymous guys who are on the show with her who I couldn't pick out of a lineup. You know, what's about a time? Lantic a morning show hosting gig. That was a really confident job. I mean, you're living like Jennifer Aniston in the morning show, right? In the 16 room penthouse with our views. This is not that. You know, and it does beg the question, why get yourself?
She's like 67. Why get up at 3 a.m. every morning? Is does she need this kind of an ego?
“Yeah, she does. She does. She needs this head. And that's why when it goes away, they all fall apart.”
That's why they, you know, Stephen Colbert is going through withdrawal. We've talked about it on
you. Yes. They never think it's going to end. They never, they never think. A producer of mine
when when I had my morning show said to me, it was the greatest advice. It was like trying to enjoy every day because it will end. And when it doesn't, you will miss it. And he was absolutely right. And so days when I'm a little bit grumpy, days when I don't really want to do an interview or stuff, I remind myself, I don't, I don't have to do this. I get to do it. And Gayle needs to all right. Gayle needs to get there. She's forgot about that. And in Gayle's defense,
the media treats her like she is a worthy competitor to Robin Roberts and Savannah. They treat the three of them in the same sentence. And I wouldn't. I just wouldn't. I'd rather have the host of Fox and Friends. Like it's just, Gayle's in a different category. And I think that
“she doesn't believe it. And I think were press, not even I, but certain members of the press have”
led her down that path. Like they treat her like a celebrity. She was at Jay Z's concert backstage. She goes to every event in New York. Every week. I don't think this is a good look for a morning talk show host. She's supposed to be relating to the average American as they get ready for a job. They probably hate. I think this is one of Gayle's big problem. Stop swanning around. At the Bezos Sanchez wedding, tying Oprah's shoelaces. I mean, I know you got that scrubbed. But that's
exactly it. And you know, it also reminds me what you're saying. And it's so wise. I knew somebody wants fairly well who had worked at like a major major outlet for years. And, and because this person worked at this outlet had access to some, to like every, every night club in New York City, every, every back room VIP room could get any, almost anybody on the phone. Left that job under circumstances. I am unclear as to why, but literally did say to me about a
month later. And I thought this person fully knew this. Having been in the media, the media
world in New York City forever said to me, I never realized that it wasn't me that they really liked
“them. That it was the job that it was transactional. And that's why they had me at these parties.”
And I just thought to myself, you cannot be this naive. Like you have to do it yourself into thinking that. You have to really want to believe that. You know, it's not true. But you have to really convince yourself. That's like telling me, I look like Brad Pitt. I really have to believe that. Like that isn't something that I just want. I see more of like a call on first. You're like a call in a bird. You know, many travel makers have questions on you, Ross. It's very true.
Oh, by the book, but it's a, well, but Dale has deleted herself. And if Oprah Winfrey was my best friend, I think I might delude myself too, because she goes everywhere with Oprah, what she doesn't really seem to remember is she wasn't invited to sit front row at the Gucci show, Oprah was. No. And if Oprah decides to assume his segments remains, it's said men who's getting treated
that way, not you, gal. Okay, our final item. We're going to show a little bit of this first,
because I missed it. And I want to show it to the troublemakers as well. Another morning show personality, Carson Daley, who for my money, I remember when I was still, I was still working on an off at MTV on like a permalance basis. And when they hired him at MTV, it was like everything
Changed overnight.
like for better or worse. He was the face of that. He was like TRL. And I've never understood his
“lengthy tenure in network television. I don't see it. Like I don't see the special sauce that a”
Carson Daley brings to the morning TV. You know, that could just be me. Anyway, he got called out by NBC's Vicki Gwen, if I'm saying her name correctly, for man's planning on the today show. And apparently, you've got the intel that he exploded once the cameras were off. Here we go. You want to avoid flipping things too many times, mostly, once is enough. And always use an instant read thermometer to prevent under or overcooking. By the way, we do have a link to consumer reports
best ranked grills on our website today.com. I'm going to watch 20 minutes of that. Oh, yeah. Allen, I've got a lot to say on the topic. I'll say two quick tips. Okay, use the
insert of thermometer. Make sure that tip is where it reads. It's got to be in the center of
the joke scene. If you go too far, you're going to get a false reading. The other thing I'll say about if you're interested in buying a barbecue is it's not one of the things where you get what you pay for. The most expensive girl in the market is not necessarily the best. In fact, I'd argue that just a basic web or girl might be your best friend. That was in your pee. Thank you for mansplaining that again, Carson. Oh, okay, you can tell he's very upset.
Secondly, a web or grill like the base model goes for 500 bucks. Okay, to the average American, that is a luxury item. You fuck with me. He didn't pay any attention to the package. Those pieces that are pre-taped and running to the show are called packages for people listening. And so when the packages were on, I've been on shows where they just tune out or they often pull out their phones and stuff. It's so rude. That's her job. That's her work. She
worked really hard on it. It was a great package and she covered everything really, really well. And then they came out the package and he explained something she had already clearly said and good for Al. But that's so Al too. Al is such a shit. So I love the Al. Every child's Al gets to poke you well. And so Al pointed that out. Carson was not happy. He's does not have a good sense of humor about himself. He's not particularly witty or or or dapper. He doesn't have any come back.
He's very scripted. And so this was his nightmare. He's also somebody to who needs you to believe his nice. And if I could just add, the reason he does so well on television and media executive explained this to me. I had the same question. I was like, how is really guys than Carson on the what explained to me? And they said, they're vanilla ice cream. It goes with every other flavor. So when we bring chocolate of strawberry in as a guest, vanilla is the one that goes with everything.
And I was like, that is so interesting because he's it by himself. He would be dull. But when you add other flavors to him, they think that it gives them some sort of stability. So I'm not completely
“buying that. But that would be there. They're rational. I think he's pretty dull. And I think to”
he would never have spoken to Savannah like that. Oh, he never never won. Never, never, never chew.
Okay, for that executives explanation, like you want vanilla. This is why I am endlessly fascinated with morning television. You look at his reaction to that. He's fucking fuming. She stood up for herself. And she did it in a jocular way. And he went rigid. And when he began the man's planning, you know who he was talking to. Ow. He wasn't, he wasn't looking at her. He was like, hey, great piece. Did you ever thought of this? Like, no, he was like, he just ignored her. Carson,
with, again, it was a little bit of territorial pissing. Savannah's not there. Hey, I'm Allen, I. We've got this shit, we're being out. Whatever. Yeah, I hear this tension at the minute in the show with Savannah off of who's going to be the face of that show. They all want it. They all want to be the star. And it's a Viper's pit. When you pull out a member of that team, they're all
“jocquian. I think this was a little bit of that going on. But we got to see it on camera. I'm told by”
people who work there that this happens all the time off camera. What was shocking was it happened on camera off camera. Many people have accused Carson of man's planning. He does this a lot, particularly to younger staff members, mostly female staff members. So, good for Vicki. Good for Vicki. So, on camera. On camera. What did he do off camera, Rob? Oh, what was the total? He was the ureus. I'm told he was red phased and angry. He's not a screenwriter. There was
not the throne. There was not stuff stuff said, but for the whole day he's soaked. I'm told he's a silky suit. And he had a silky tantrum and not happy, not happy for something that he did. She didn't do anything. You did it. This guy should be down on his hands in these every day thinking whatever God he worships that he has this incredibly overcompensated job with a high profile and can probably get a table at the polar bar. You know what I mean? Small things. Small
Mercies.
and somebody came over and whispered, I'm a naughty troublemaker. They merged my naughty ears
“and your troublemakers. It was so sweet. So, thank you for doing that. I wish I'd got your name.”
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I should see you next week. The next week, Rob. Take care, ladies. Coming up, trouble maker feedback. We are back in a minute. If you're looking to lose weight, but have no interest in painful weekly injections with reported side effects, including increased risk of cancer or vision blindness, there is an alternative. A weight loss supplement called lean. The doctors at Brickhouse nutrition created lean for
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tracker on him because I don't trust those goals in Montesito. New artwork attached detective Teddy, the Harry Hunter. We are keeping tabs on. Is Teddy, does he ever have more fun than when he's
out in the field? Trying to now but perp criminal activity against the culture? No, never.
Okay, dear morine. As per sunny, Austin's son Gabriel's post undergrad career and man did that segment land with you guys. Whoa. Okay. If you, this is trouble maker k. You go, oh, I love your alias. I won't say it but it's good. If you haven't gotten the grades in high test scores to get into medical or law school did not know this just this trouble maker's report, a back door entry is to work in a service job like teaching in low socioeconomic schools
and doing some research as an assistant to demonstrate academic interest. My husband was a professor of medicine for 30 years. Also, and I kicked myself for not realizing this in the moment. It's probably because they got me out of high school math, like by the skin of my teeth.
“I think I passed by like a point. I had zero interest in math. Geometry isn't a fourth grade”
subject. Of course not. It's taught in freshman or sophomore year in high school. Two studies like to the cops with her loser son there going, he's, he's just geometry. He's the Harvard grad. He teaches geometry to force graders and stuff wrongs. What are you doing with him?
Doubtful, doubtful. Just our opinion. Finally, obviously, a Harvard education does not require the
ability to decode a no trespassing sign. Her husband was, I believe, this charge was dropped. I don't know how or why. Obviously, she got it dropped or their lawyers got it dropped. Her, their lawyers more, more likely. Her husband was under investigation for Medicaid, Medicare fraud, and just this trouble maker's observation, that doesn't happen unless there's evidence of repeated cases submitted for over billing. Now, we also received a lot of lovely
lovely emails from trouble makers who I referenced on the nerve last week. I forget which episode that we had hit this like speed bump. Oh, it was when I was reading Lady C's tweet about Oprah Winfrey and what a cool Oprah is. And I was talking about how Lady C was the real deal because when the nerve hit a speed bump about a month or so ago. There were people who I thought were friends of mine, who were either friends of the show or, you know, colleagues, what have you,
who I never realized were transactional or using me or the show or were taking pleasure
In hopefully building their own brands on the backs of this little hiccup.
You guys rallied. You wrote me such lovely emails and I'm going to read one, which really,
“I'm not going to read the whole thing, but trouble maker David. Wow.”
You know, so David writes that when I talked about the speed bump, I have to tell you, I hadn't noticed it at all, which is so lovely. He goes on to say that the last two weeks of my life have been a blur as my mother endured major brain surgery, our sympathies, but it sounds like she's on the upswing because David writes throughout her recovery, we watched the nerve and laughed our heads off. And again, we know praise is higher than when we hear from trouble makers who
were going through a hard time and they say they watch our show and it, it distracts them and makes them laugh for like a good out. Like no higher praise, no higher praise. And all are best to your mother as she recovers. Travel maker David also writes, I'm sorry, but Andy Cohen is not the man he claims to be, I would know, I've been on Watch What Happens Live for their sympathies, David. Sunny Austin deserves criticism, her son's alleged search for what we at the nerve call allegedly
possibly rough trade across the train tracks made me crackle. Thank you, David. He also writes,
“and I like this. I just like the allegory. I think it's very, I think it's very clever and creative”
that the nerve is performing surgery on a body that's sick, that we are finding the pathology cutting into it, exposing it and striking a nerve. David writes, please keep striking those nerves. The more backlash, the better it means we are doing our job. David, we salute you. Hi, Maureen. This is from travel maker Liz in Cleveland. Maybe Sunny Austin was angry at the cops, because this quote, former federal prosecutor, song and dance has worked before.
My guess this travel maker writes is that this wasn't the Harvard grads first brush with the law interesting theory, just a theory. Hi, Maureen. Trouble maker S. Teddy looks great as Sherlock Holmes.
“I agree. Thank you. I think trouble with the great has her Google puro. I leave that up to Paul”
from New Zealand's judgment. Maureen, I am a subscriber. The old saying is money can never buy
class. Lady C is the definition of the word class agreed. I love this and so are all of your trouble makers Maureen who stand by your side no matter what. This is so lovely. Trouble maker rich. You write quite a bit. Beware, we will always encounter wolves and sheep's clothing in life. Agreed, we will. Hi, Maureen. I'm answering this because Lady C said off camera. It was okay to mention and we got a lot of these both in email and YouTube comments. My first question regarding
Lady C is she all right on her last appearance on your show. I couldn't help but notice that she was in a hospital gown and had a hospital bracelet on but looking fabulous is ever agreed. I didn't even realize before we started recording that Lady C was in fact in the hospital until I saw a wide shot and saw the bed behind her and the door behind her and that she was clearly in a hospital room and I said Lady C, I cannot believe you are coming to us from inside your hospital room. You're
just incredible. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. She looked incredible and she had she's just
had another surgery which was resulting from the fall. She took a little while ago but she is doing great. She obviously looks incredible. Her spirits are up. She's breaking news all over the place. So for all of you lovely troublemakers who were concerned about Lady C, not to worry. She is doing wonderfully and this troublemaker would like to wish her as we all do, good health. Now this troublemaker has a theory that the marcles made up the racism story about the royals to get ahead of any
Surrogacy rumors leaking out of the palace.
out of the palace but that's what they might have been thinking would be an eventuality or a likelihood.
“The royals this troublemaker goes on undoubtedly suspected or knew that they were using a surrogate”
which would have raised questions about Archie's place in the line of succession. But Megan twisting it to make it a race thing would make it such that Megan would not have to be held accountable for lying to the British public about whether the kids were born via surrogate or not,
this troublemaker believes that the children are Harry's and not hers and that one
thing is for certain she will use the children in the divorce, which this troublemaker writes, will happen given another six to eight months. I agree. I agree with you. Final email, SunnyHaston Roots. I have a feeling this has been scrubbed. We're going to look for it. SunnyHaston was on a TV show called Finding Your Roots. It airs in America on PBS,
“Public Broadcasting. It is a very well-regarded show and the host is Henry Louis Gates Jr. I think”
he's still the host. I'm not sure. He might have been replaced. Anyway, SunnyHaston who I call America's premier race hustler of daytime TV was on a TV show called Finding Your Roots and Sunny will racialize anything and everything she can. Whiteybad, black and brown people, great. That's her worldview. I'm just saying that's her worldview. On finding your Roots, Sunny found out that her ancestors, this has been well-reported,
we're Spanish nobility, slave owners, and she was not happy to receive this information. This is a troublemaker from Big Fork Montana. Keep your feedback coming email me at [email protected]
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