Taylor Swift Backlash, Blake Lively's RAGE Over Baldoni Video, & Prince Harry’s Family Drama

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“Hello and welcome to The Nerve at Night. I am your host, Morgan Callan. We have so much to”

get to today. Rob Shooter joins us, celebrity reporter, non-parallel. I actually, you could say he's a celebrity reporter and he reports on celebrity. He is here. We have a full, like it's a case load. It's a case load of cultural, criminal offenders. We've got even more

grubby, unbelievable details from the multi-billion dollar corporate brand merger that took place

in New York City over 4th of July weekend. We speak, of course, of the Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey, fairytale wedding that doubled as a raffle. A raffle. I do not exaggerate

“for comic effect. Then we're going to go right into Taylor's XBFF, Blake Lively, and her husband,”

psychoaricinist, Ryan Reynolds, who have stuff to say about Justin Baldoni, daring to speak up for himself. We've got the latest on the Jack Antonov split with Margaret Qualley, Jack was, of course, at this corporate brand merger. His X-Lina Dunham was there. We've got the

inside dish on what really went down last week when Meghan Markle and Prince Harry finally met

with King Charles and Queen Camilla. We're also going to cover the chaos at the Jay-Z show on Sunday night in New York City. Absolute chaos. Rob's got the real story Madonna that geriatric at a night club

“performing at 1 a.m. When you see this footage, you're going to die. You're going to die plus”

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Joining us now, the one, the only rob shooter from the must subscribe naughty but nice sub-stack. He is also the best-selling author of the super fun summer novel. It's started with a whisper. If you haven't gotten it yet, grab a copy. It is your beach read. Welcome, Rob. We have so much to discuss. It is truly, like we just have, it's like our perp lineup is way too long. First I want to talk to you about Taylor Swift and everything that we're learning about this wedding.

Now, it's the cover of People Magazine this week. Okay, I'm gonna hold it up. They got their own

The groom cried 40 minutes of heartfelt vows. The epic high low menu caviar and Shane Nuggets.

“Here's the real story. Daily Mail plus exclusive July 11th, 2026, the celebrities who attended”

were hissed. The headline everyone was weirdered. Wearded out of the 1,000 person main event. One guest reports that the ceremony was really long. The couple's vows each lasting around 20 minutes criticism of the food. I couldn't believe that there was a buffet at the wedding

of the year. Another guest said that felt like such a tacky move. Amazing alisters having to

stand in line. Now, there's more with the raffle that Swift and Kelsey held at Friday's reception raising eyebrows. It was really bizarre. One insider told the mail straight after the ceremony Taylor and Travis did a raffle and gave out expensive gifts for an hour. Everyone was weirded out. It felt like why are they giving away Chanel bags? As if we are all their poor fans. Oh my god, what a shift. It was pretty demeaning. It killed the vibe. One guest was like, I don't know it was

cool, but maybe because they want a Chanel bag. Here are those who left early. Tom Brady, Jessica Alba, Hugh Grant, the pieces careful to say it's unclear why they left early. But the implication seems to be once the raffle got underway. They were like, fuck, this shit. I am a billionaire. I don't need to sit around and hope they pick my name. So I can win like a Chanel bag. Also, also, this is the best part, Rob. And then I want all of your feedback. Yeah, yeah.

Taylor people. So I've referred to this wedding as a corporate brand merger. Make no mistake. This is a multi-billion dollar corporate brand merger. Those who stayed were reportedly buzzing

over the realization that some of the guests had never even met Swift and Kelsey. We actually don't

know them. One source said we were surprised when we got the text, Taylor and Travis worked the room like crazy with Taylor introducing him. Travis to every heavy hitter there, especially Steven Spielberg, Tom Hanks, Brad Pitt, Adam Sandler, Tom Cruise, all people who can help get him cast in movies because he wants to become a big movie soon. After he retired from football and meanwhile, some of the people there who did know the bride and groom, who tried to go up to them to

congratulate them, were rebuffed, reportedly allegedly by the bride's minion friends who were

closely guarding her rob. It was a mess. It was a total total mess. Everybody that I've spoken to.

I spoke to four people who were at this wedding and they said it was a shit show. It just wasn't very well planned now. In their defense, anybody that's ever catered a wedding or worked at a hotel or even a restaurant, it is impossible to serve a thousand people at the same time and have high

“good quality food. So maybe that's why they went with a buffet, but it just wasn't thought through.”

There were not enough seats. People once they got their tray of food, their plate of food, they didn't know anywhere to sit in. But Rob, I have to stop right there because like this is the irony. It's in Madison Square Garden. There are 20,000 seats in that venue. So right, how? They all those seats. There's 20,000 seats were curtained off. So what they used was the floor of the garden. And on that floor, they put a big stage. So what they wanted people to experience

was the performances. This was a concert. It was about poor Macartney and Stevie Nakes. And then somebody was like, "We've got to feed these fools. We've got to feed these army of guests." And so they didn't have enough tables there. So people were holding their plates. I'm told it was really really awkward. And not only was this brand promotion. This was a takeover. This was the swift company taking over the Kelsey company. She's the big corporate giant. He's the smaller,

independent firm here. And this is an absolute takeover. I am told the same as the male

“that she was escorting him around, introducing him. This felt to me. Remember the Lion King”

premier in London when Harry was introducing Meghan to executives from Disney begging for work for

of us, this was that. This was about making Travis part of this business empire. She doesn't need

“the help. And that's the part of this story that gets, I think, people a little bit confused.”

This wasn't about Taylor. This was about the Taylor Swift brand taking over the Travis Kelsey brand. And now these two are marching forward together. But it was a mess. There was nothing intimate about it. There was nothing sophisticated about it. And now I think we have to take a step back. And ask ourselves, was this just weird? Was this just a weird day for Taylor Swift? Or has Taylor Swift

always been this person? And just condos and kidded us and tricked us into thinking she was somebody else?

I asked that question to a couple of people in the music business and they told me this is always been Taylor. She is a marketing. She is a branding. She knows how to make a dollar. And so we shouldn't be that surprised about this. She's made a living. She's made millions of dollars from selling songs about past relationships, breakups, make-ups. And so once again, anybody that argues Taylor Swift is

“a very private individual, it's not true. She's in this to win it. She likes the showbiz,”

the rasmataz, the spotlight, anybody, better than anybody else. The difference is here. The only difference between a Kim Kardashian and a Taylor Swift is Kim's more honest. She tells you, Taylor plays games. She likes to pretend that she's secretive. She likes to put up curtains, the hides, celebrities or rivals. She still has not released a picture that cover of people magazine that you held up. That's an old paparazzi pic. That ain't a wedding pic.

I'm not known people magazine do a big wedding, like this unless they get the exclusive pic. Oh no, no, Taylor's holding onto that for when she wants to sell us a new video, a new promotion, a new tour. And so we're not going to see these pictures until Taylor's ready to make a dollar too from them. I couldn't agree with you more Rob and your sources that this is exactly

who Taylor Swift has always been, you know, the biggest day of her life, you know, oh my god,

somebody finally didn't dump Taylor. And not only that, they've agreed to marry her, and this is the spectacle she puts on paralyzing New York City in the middle of a heat wave on a fourth of July holiday weekend, no doubt. But the analogy that you drew, that comparison is so apt, a Harry-dragging Meghan Markle around at that premiere of the Lion King to Bob Eiger, the head of Disney, saying, oh, you know, my wife here, you have you Matt, she just voice over

“work, you should hire her. And J.C. and Beyonce were right there. And those two who are hardly”

shrinking violence looked like they wanted to crawl under the nearest high top table. Like, imagine the emasculation. Hey, Travis, like, you're my newest, you're my newest accessory here. I'm going to introduce you. Here's Brad Pitt. I barely know Brad Pitt, but I'm going to introduce you Brad. You should hire my lung of a husband when he's through with, like, what? It's embarrassing.

I didn't never work. Let's, let's be honest here. It doesn't work. The reason Taylor was doing this

was to give him a career and the only reason anybody's listening to this is because she's Taylor Swift. It has nothing to do with him. I could have married Taylor Swift and she could have dragged me around town. And I think deep down, he knows this. My reporting is that now, he's become the hottest invite in Hollywood. Every event published every event planner. Everybody is inviting Travis to their events and in a few weeks when New York has its fashion week. Travis is going to get invited to

every single show. But let me tell you why. They don't want Travis there. They want him to bring Taylor Swift. Exactly. He has now the introduction. He is the way you get to Taylor. He knows that. The reason you invite Matthew Brodrick to an event is to bring Sarah. And he knows that. He's not stupid. Like they know what's going on here. It seems to me that Taylor is treating this. The same I she treated. There's artists who were her, her warm-up act, her support act. Sabrina Carpenter,

Ed Sheeran. She turned them into stars. The difference was here is that they have an incredible amount of talent. Travis has talent too. But doing one thing on a football pitch. What she's trying to do is make this football player a great talent on a pitch. She's trying to turn him into the next Sabrina Carpenter. Maybe not with music, but certainly within the entertainment business. And so, it's a limited opportunity she's got, but at the end of the day. No one's

fooled. We all know the truth. If I hadn't had a Disney, I know why I'm hiring him. I know why

And at the moment, it probably feels cute. My experience working with celebrities is that this

“is the kiss of death. This is not a good way to start a romantic relationship. If it was a”

business relationship, I've been holding up to your co-tails, Maureen. Yeah, I absolutely have. Now, but we have developed a friendship out of that, but it's not a romantic relationship. How can me be? How can they be partners? How can they be equals? They can't. They can't. It's already baked

in. She's basically saying to him, "You're lesser than me." And I'm trying to elevate you to my

level. And this is going to be a heavy lift. Look at all the people we invited who had bought this and did my other favorite detail about this wedding. And that piece was their actual friends who wanted to go up and say congratulations. We're kept away. They couldn't get it. She had that massive security around the garden that we also inside the garden. She had a private detail, just on her, not on him. And that's another little delicious fact that I'm hearing my report

in his, he's having a really hard time with this. He's a macho guy. He said he's vows. I want to protect you. Well, if he looked to the left and the right, there were some security guard protecting him. It's inside. It's not you, Travis. That's going to be a really hard pill for him to swallow. I used to work for Jessica Simpson many years ago when she got divorced from Nicolas Schae. They were fine as long as Nick was the star. The minute Jessica popped, she wasn't

a big pop star. She was always a beelie spritney. And she would admit that herself. And so when she

married Nicolas Schae, Nicholas the star and Jessica was sort of in the shadows. The minute they had that reality show, that all changed. And that's right. And that's when the relationship fell apart. And I watched it. I could see it happening. I knew this divorce was coming maybe before Jessica because he's a ego just couldn't take it. And at some point, that's going to happen with Travis. Now, in Taylor's defense, I would imagine it's going to be very hard to find a man who can

stand next to you as one of the biggest superstars of all time. That's a tricky thing for a man to do. And is there sexism there? Absolutely. Yes. A lot of women have had to stand behind

“very powerful men. But I think the strategy of showing him off like a prize bow no a prize pick”

at the county fair. It's really vulgar. It's really tacky. And nobody's buying it. If he gets a job, I'm told he's up for a few fashion gigs. And we're no one's by fashion week. So Tommy Hilfiger, not the high end. He's not going to get Gucci or Prada. No Laura O'Piano like it's, you know. But he's up for some fashion gigs. Do you know why? Because he's Mr. Taylor Swift. I mean, if he, if he can swallow that, if he, he, he wasn't buying to this.

He wasn't buying to that. He's inbox has blown over up. He's only there because of her. This is not going and well, this is really not going and well, and you know, I don't even necessarily think it's that like who could potentially stand next to Taylor Swift. And you know, I think of like the super couples, like a Beyonce and a Jay Z, like they both elevate each other. You know, or Brad and Angelina, I just think that Taylor Swift is so uniquely insufferable, so incredibly

fake as we see now. And she's got absolutely no qualms. You know, the irony of making everybody sign an NDA for that wedding. And now like they're all spilling the beans. Like they can't even help themselves. But she will sell out any of her romantic partners for a song, a setlist,

“a stadium tour, you know, like who could trust her? Who could ever trust her now to that?”

Here's somebody else who nobody can trust again, Blake Lively, who is now on higher of all reported the York's exclusive Robb is that Blake is furious over Justin Baldoni's new

video in which he and his wife spoke for the first time in years since this lawsuit was filed

against him by Blake and her equally lothesome husband, psycho arsonist Ryan. Now, you're reporting in your must subscribe pot, sub-stack, excuse me, naughty, but nice. Blake watched every second of the video and she was absolutely furious. One insider told you, she believes Justin is trying to rewrite history and recast himself as the victim and Ryan your insider told you is in rage. Ryan thinks that Justin is reopening wounds that everyone, who, everyone, worked incredibly

hard to close. Talk to us, Ryan. Yeah, they did it. First of all, he's the big

He's, I would argue potentially worse because he thinks he's a genius. He thinks he is a marketing

PR wizard. Remember what he did the Palaton ads. He has that marketing company. He thinks he is just the bomb and he, you know, he was rewriting scenes in her movie. He thinks he shakes period. He's arson wealth. Yes, exactly. So he's not that, that very annoying about this because once again, they're not in control. When, when this settlement happened and I think we were on your show talking about it while he was happening more in the one thing that she wanted or one of the

things she wanted was an MDA and his people say no way, no way. If we've got a certain MDA, we're not going to say, so neither one of them have an MDA and that's really unusual. Normally

“when something is settled, you have to shut the effort. And it's really frustrating for busy bodies”

like me, nosy people like me because it's very hard to get to the bottom of it. When the

Col Kidman and Tom married in boss, we've still not should still not spoken about it. Katie Holmes has still not said a word about it because of the NDA. They don't want to mess that up because they want some money. There was no money here, but I think Blake would have been better off paying some money to shut him up because she was too tight to give him any money. Now there is no NDA and he did the video and I think it was a pretty successful video. I think doing it with his wife

was very smart. I think doing it in their kitchen was very smart. They didn't sit down with you or me or Diane Sawyer. They didn't get asked any questions. Celebrities, you know, do this now.

“If you don't want a real journalist asking you questions, even soft journalists like the”

today show, you just make your own video. They clearly had edited it. It wasn't live. I'm sure it

took them three or four different takes to get it right. And they posted it and anybody that thinks Blake didn't watch that. Over and over is naive. She's like, there's a Pruder film. Totally. And the fact that she didn't even see it's coming tells you the ego and the narcissist is in there. They don't yet understand that there's two sides to the story. Maybe there's actually only one side, which is just in. But they don't, they still not figured it out. After

all this humiliation, after all this loss, after all this chaos, I would eat a little humble pie. These two are still not. They're still not figured it out. They're so well matched in this way. They raped this guy's reputation. They dragged him through the public square. They attempted to destroy his career. The judge threw out the bulk of her claims and said these don't hold any water. And they're like, how dare he tell his side of the story? After years of eating,

how dare he? Right, does he have to speak up and defend himself? You know, it's like fucking wild. And then on top of it is the timing. Justin's timing was so perfect because they had just gotten through which what was clearly one of their darkest weeks ever being exercised from the deal with. It was perfect. It was. It was perfect. It was really the shank. I should also point out too that when I talk about the perfect way to do a statement,

to put out a video, let me be clear here. I can't name specific outlets, but I know from friends in sort sources close to Justin that the mainstream media didn't want Justin because they're still frightened of upsetting Blake. Are you serious? So there were several outlets

“who would not do this interview. And that's why Justin did it himself. That's why he put”

out the video. Blake, or maybe Ryan, I should say, still has some control. They still have some fear factor over the mainstream. Why? Like this is again, this is why the mainstream media is dying, why entertainment tonight is dying, access is dead, eating is is dead. These two have absolutely no power. And what remains of it, if you want to talk about the tiny amount that may remain, is what the mainstream media is giving to them. Justin Baldoni has an open

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your insiders are telling you at naughty but nice the must read. Jack fought hard for this relationship. He begged Margaret to give him another chance this marriage had been in trouble for quite some time. He wasn't ready to let her go but she had had it. We're hearing various things Rob, one that like he's a complete control freak. Another that she's she's really young still and maybe hasn't

gotten all of her youthful ways out of her system yet. What are you hearing? Yeah, I always tell

she fell in love with this fun loving sort of sweet guy and then once they got married she realized that he wanted to be in charge of everything and he wasn't around very much and let's be honest here. His biggest priority is not his wife, it's Taylor Swift. He thought he'd drop anything to be in a recording studio with Taylor Swift and she didn't want it and the fact that she wouldn't

“go to this wedding and pretend to still be a couple is really, really great. Let's remember”

B and a winters daughter had to prayed with her, husband up the steps of the Met ball and then they broke up three days later. Great point. And like five people care about B Schaffer. Exactly. You would I know who she is but the average person out there is no idea who she is. Right. And I think too that he kept this a secret or he didn't reveal this. He delayed it for a couple of days because he wanted Taylor's wedding to not be under this cloud if that's even possible.

And so he's a tough character. I went back and looked through Lea Dunnham's book and in the book

she basically says this. She said that he spent hours and hours in a recording studio with a

young woman. She doesn't imply that anything sexual happened. She's not implied. There's any cheating. But when somebody is gone for hours and overnight when somebody spends 12 hours a day

“I'm your wife. I'm with you and so I think that now it's fine for him to beg for another chance.”

But I think she's too smart. You've shown who you are and I don't think he's going to change. And so I think ultimately this was just a matter of priorities. Hey, marriage is a hard relationship's a hard but you've got to find time for each other and if you don't want to do that that's fine, just don't pretend you do. You're so right by the way and in Lea's book I actually read it more is she was heavily implying that he cheated on her at least once and that pop star is

rumored to be Lord in the Lord with maybe 17 18 very young. You know she writes there's one scene in which she comes home to their Brooklyn apartment and she's like this pop star had her head in Jack's lap and he's like stroking her hair and saying like your teens are supposed to be hot like oh my god. That's this creepy thing that just to to to to to reinforce what we said a moment ago, that's the world that Taylor Swift doesn't want us to think exists anymore. We know

“the music business is some really sleazy business. We know that's what's about my Davis last week.”

Oh, they're just the sleazyest sleazyest business and Taylor somehow has whitewash that and they do all honorable. However, the people she's working with are pretty sleazy. It's still the same business. It's the same business. Same business. The nerve our asteroid has pivoted to one Taylor Swift TMZ reporting Monday morning, Brad Pitt's daughter Zahara takes out newspaper ad to officially

has caused the rift between Brad and the children. This is just the latest chapter in the very

sad and never ending campaign to alienate the children from their father. You know Rob, I thought she

would have been done. She successfully dragged this out until the children hit the age of 18 and I thought that would be it for her. She just didn't want him to have any custodial rights whatsoever. She wanted those kids to herself, but this feels just cruel. Yeah. Yeah, I hear what you're saying. I would argue Brad caused this and she expected it. Brad was a shitty dad and he caused this and we know the incident on the plane happened and so I think he's the cause of this, but there's no

doubt that she exploited it. Like once she decided that she was going to get a teeth into this, you know, people are I know who have worked with Angelina, Jolie said she's incredibly vindictive. If you look set her, she holds a grudge. She doesn't move on. The fact that he has met somebody I missed their hours. We saw them kiss in a few days ago at a sporting event. She has not done that recently in an interview. She said she's not dated. Since since she broke up with Brad and she talked about

the trauma still. Now, I'm not feeling anything, any one's trauma, but at some point you've got to say it's up to me to get over it. It's up to me to move forward. He doesn't need you to forgive him,

“you need to forgive him for yourself. Don't forgive him for Brad, forgive him for you, Angel,”

because she's just stuck in this really bitter, really angry place. And I think she gets up each day. And instead of saying how can I make myself happy, she says how can I hurt him. And so I think that I think that's going on. We should be clear though here is these ads. We're not at a revenge. You have to do this in California to change your name in California. You have to take an ad out in a major publication to allow somebody else to respond. When I first came to American

Marine, I to get my green card. I had to take ads out in the New York Times with the job I was applying to. And so that was to prove that I had a skill that another American didn't have. And so this is sort of a technicality. It looks terrible. It smells terrible. It is terrible. But the reason the ads were taken out was a legal thing, not a spiteful thing. I hope the kids even though they've dropped his name. I hope they're not as full as anger and bitterness that their mom is because if they

are, it's going to eat them alive. I don't say this because I want to let Brad off the hook.

I want to let these kids off the hook. Change your name, never say his name again, and go on with your

lives. I wish I actually could do the same. You know, it's so interesting. Thank you by the way for clearing that up that it's a legal requirement that one files these ads. But one could say, and again, it's someone who worked in publicity and crisis management with celebrities for a long time. Hey, it's a heart like maybe just privately drop it. You know, you don't need to legalize this

“because you're just going to draw attention given that you have to take out a newspaper at, you know,”

the reporting plenty of us had difficult parents. You know, it's extreme to drop your surname and take another one. The reporting has been, and I kind of tend to believe this because the vengeance here is just, I mean, it's game of thrones level. The reporting is that Af not long after that, whatever went down on that plane, which was clearly bad bad and, and Brad did behave badly, very badly. Nonetheless, Angelina wanted to rekindle the relationship with him. And he,

I'm guessing at that point, was in treatment for his substance abuse issues and said, no, they had been miserable for quite some time. In fact, you see that wedding photo, which was,

you know, like couples do that often. Like they'll renew their vows or they'll finally get married

after years and in attempt to save a relationship, but that's it. It's the death now. Yeah, she knew who he was. Brad didn't just one day, become abusive or Brad didn't just one day start to drink to, but she knew who he was. She knew from the beginning. When kids are involved, I get that, that might have changed things a little bit here, but Angelia can't pretend to be wholly of them now. She's got a sloppy, a messy past too that she's spoken about,

“including drug use. And so the two of them found each other. And I think for a while,”

they were the perfect match. Both of them were messy people. And then he got his life together. After that incident on the plane, he went to rehab. He's nice sober. We got to tip our hats towards that. And so I think that he just didn't want to live the life he was living anymore. And as anybody who's had a friend who's an addict knows, when you want to change your life,

Angelia, even though she claims that the behavior was bad, he would be still doing that same behavior

“in that. You know, it's so interesting too. Just one note before we move on. There have been fairly”

recent red carpet appearances, Angelina has made where she looks like she is on heroin. I'm sorry, she does. She's got. I saw her eyes. Yeah, boring. I went to her daughter's producer of a Broadway musical. It's a great show. Yeah, I saw her there. I saw her there. I saw her there. Moreen, she is so ill looking in person. I get it in the photographs. I totally get it. She looks gorgeous in the photographs. But in person, I defy any person to actually look at Angelina, Joly. I too, I,

we made, we made eye contact. She, her eyes are sunken. She, she, she looks really, she looks as if she's, she has cancer. She doesn't, she has had so let's be careful with my wording here. She looks sick. Well, wait. She didn't have cancer. She got tested for the rocket gene, right? So she has an

“again, but like what you're saying is so smart and I think something that's worth highlighting,”

which is, we see these celebrities and even when they, they look maybe tooth in like Charlie's Thuron looks tooth in right now. She's doing the rounds for the Odyssey. It's still can photograph fairly well. You know, it's true that the camera does add 10 pounds. But when you see these people in person, as you're saying, it can be alarming. They do not look well. They're not well. I'm not saying Charlie's is or isn't, but in the case of Angelina. Yeah, let me give you a little

tip to it. It's really interesting on Angelina Jolie. So a friend of mine is a really

powerful photographer, not, not a high end fashion photographer, a red carpet photographer. And when

he takes pictures of Angelina Jolie out of reference to her, they remove a vein that she has here

“in her forehead. So if you see a picture of Angie on people magazine or in one of the glossy”

magazine, and then she doesn't have that vein, that picture has been photoshopped. If you see her with the vein in her forehead, then really look at that picture, because that's going to be more truthful to who Angelina really looks like. She's got this very prominent vein in both her head, it bulges out, it bulges out, which just goes to show you that there's zero percent body fat, like zero. Okay, moving on, I want to talk to you about Andy Cohen, who still has us blocked,

which is keep playing that game, Andy, because it's not like we're going to stop, just unblock us, like let us see what you're up to with your new official boyfriend. Now, I want to ask you about Andy attempting to clean up his reputation, but I also wanted to bring this up with you because who better to discuss this with? In our many, we showed an interview that Andy had done with Andrew Reynolds, and they were talking about how Jess Kagle, who was the editor-in-chief of

people magazine from 2014 to 2019, reminded Andrew that Andrew had in fact made out with Andy Cohen at a party in Fire Island. Jess Kagle was also involved in presenting Andy to mainstream

American audiences as just a happy, wholesome, domesticated single gay man, who finally had the

baby of his dreams. In fact, the people magazine cover in early 2019, the headline was my dream baby exclamation point to which I say, what are you going to headline at my nightmare, baby? You know, like I gave birth to the anti-Christ or my surrogate did, what is this? But, but I show that because I want to convey upon the troublemakers, don't buy people magazine anymore, don't click on it, come to the nerve, just Kagle, and Andy Cohen are laughing at the very people who buy that magazine

and read it. They're having fun with the idea that you're going to buy into this horseshoe, that it's not sex party, Andy. It's not hard drug taking Andy who makes his fortune on stoking and creating the misery of others women, especially. No, Andy just had his dream baby. It's very, very thin. It's not sinister. It is. It is. It's a little bit of karma here. Is that shortly after that cover ran, Jessy got fired from people magazine because it bombed.

It was one of the lowest selling people magazine covers of all time and really Jessy insisted. He was based in LA at the time. He insisted on flying to New York where they have a hell of a staff.

There's a million reporters in New York who could have walked. Not even a quarter subway or a

Uber. They could have walked when I'm disapartment. It's downtown people magazine.

had flew first class and he stated a great hotel and when he submitted the bill to the new

publishers of people magazine, they couldn't believe it. Now, had the issue sold through the roof. Nobody cares about costs when you're making a lot of money, but they do care about costs. When you submit the bill for your first class travel, your hotels, your car service,

“whatever else you're dealing with and then that issue bombed and I think it bombed”

because everybody knew how silly it was. When we all saw it, people were diggling people. No Andy Cohen. He's been in New York a really long time. I knew him 30 years ago. He was a booker on CBS his morning show. He was the one you call to after the today's show in GBA said no.

You call that? You call to after. And so we've all known him for a very long time. There was a

while there where I was doing the today's show, NBC owns Bravo and said they were trying to build up Andy. And so reluctantly, Kathy Lee and Hoda gave him a gossip segment, a burst segment. I think it was every Monday on the today's show. It was branded the Andy Cohen segment. Andy would go out part here after his show on a Sunday and not turn up. I became a little bit like his understudy. The reason I was on the today's show every week was not because they

necessarily wanted me. I used to get a call up, but do you know what I'm saying? E8 here, will you fill in? And so it was great for me. He didn't like that though. And he once confronted me about it. It was really in the face and angry. And I said, the only reason I'm on the today's show is because you're too drunk to show up. They don't want me. They want you. If you don't want me to do the

“today's show, then turn up and do the job. That's what the part of Andy Blocked you is so”

funny to me. It makes me laugh because Andy's made a living of gossip in a dish. I give it out and so I have to be able to take you to Boreen. The people? Absolutely. If you get a dish it out, he's so sensitive. He's so thin. I have a lovely story for you. A friend of mine was the gossip reporter for the Daily Mail. We were on the morning show together and she was in Miami and she was staying at a lovely hotel, the Delano, a great hotel. And she was sitting

outside having a breakfast and Andy skipped past in a towel, jumped in the pool and afterwards, he recognized her and was like, oh hello, and he's like, are you going to write about me? Please do. And she said, yes, I will do a little lighter and he said, make sure you say I look sexy. That was important to him. That was the one thing. I take back his hat smart. Please sell my book. No. Andrew's request. So the gossip columns are, please make me look cute. Do you know what?

I've been that entertainment reporter upon him exiting the pool. I would have flagged down the nearest hotel staffer and said, can you shock that pool immediately? Can you clean it? That fucking human Petri dish? Just dove in. Oh, I love it. I also, I get such a kick out of him blocking us. It's so funny. What an asshole. Okay, Meghan Markle and Harry. Now, we have a programming note for the troublemakers. Meghan will be making her debut on Master Chef Australia, where she

reportedly allegedly alienated the entire crew on March 26. Now, they were meant to have a victorious return to the UK last week. It did not go well. Harry lost a major lawsuit against the publishers of the Daily Mail where I work. He was attempting to destroy the mail. Instead,

he is now on the hook. He and his cohort who brought this lawsuit for $67 million. That is before

the legal fees. They will have to pay for the Daily Mail very likely. Harry doesn't have the money. Shocker. Meghan stayed away. She wasn't there. He was supposed to stay a fucking him palace. That offer was rescinded after he hithered and dithered. Meghan finally announced she was going to show up later in the week on Thursday, which as I said before is later in the week. You trick and they went to tea with King Charles and Queen Camilla at high grove. They brought the

“children. What is the most important part of this rub that you write about on a naughty but nice?”

No photos. No. That's what she wanted. That's what she was desperate for. At this point, Meghan wants to have royal association. She wants to be connected to the royal family. Everything she's done away from the royal family has not worked. She's not stupid. She's figured out I need to remind everybody. Every big brand, every company I want to be in business with that I am a damn

know now the world that we live in. Literally a picture used to be a thousand words, a cliche. That's

a million words. It's a million clicks. Pictures are what generates the culture. She really wanted

“that picture and I think you're going to hear some reports out there. Some foolish journalists,”

most of them are parroting Harry and Meghan's message points is that they weren't. They didn't win. They weren't there. They had a cup of tea for probably about an hour and a half and while they were having a tea, this just goes to show you how brilliant the palace PR people are. While that was happening, miles away from London. It didn't happen in London by the press. It was in high grove. And I was an hour away from London. But Windsor, there was a polo match and guess who turned up and

kissed her husband, right in front of all the cameras, Kate. Kate was there and it was just, I don't think it's coincidence. I think it's a little shady in the best possible way. But this is what really smart, publicists, event people do. Then the next day, she was at Wimbledon, handed out the trophy with the two kids, looking adorable. The people who have won this, Kate and William, Meghan and Harry, it's over. There's no picture. It's like it didn't happen.

“Nobody's talking about it anymore in Britain. I think that the fear was, is that she was going”

to turn up and make a scene and then be on the news and do TV shows didn't happen. Their brand

is so toxic that people finally have stopped caring. It's at that point now. I think it's,

yeah, I think we're going to talk less and less and less about Meghan Markler. I think it's gone. I think it's so interesting as well is that it was a T. It wasn't a lunch. That's right. It wasn't a dinner. It was a T, which in my understanding is the a very posh British way of saying, we'd really rather not. We're doing this because you've left us so choice. Yeah, yeah, it's by Bobby Vachu for tea. It's not good. If she really liked you, we'll have

you to get rid of the other little shade. And maybe I'm the only person that spotted this. Do you know who Owens High Grove? It's not the British public. It's not the crown. It's Prince William. He had to go to William's house. It's part of the Duchy of Cornwall. So William Owens, this massive, massive estate, that house he saw to his estate and his dad rents it from William. The King has to give William rent teacher to live there. Wow. And the only person who would know

this apart from me is Harry. Harry knows who Owens what? Buckingham Palace is not owned by the crown. Wins the castle. It's a private castle. And so the house that he had to turn up with

“with his wife was a house owned by his brother. Can you imagine having to rock up, slinking with it?”

Your tail between your legs and go and see your dad at a house that was owned by your brother. It was another little delicious little piece of information that fell across my lap. As you said earlier, he delivered over Buckingham Palace. And ultimately the invitation was reversed. So this is a telling me it's much more deep than that's much more deep. The King had pushed back from the staff. They didn't want to see it. They didn't want him there.

Remember when this happened with Prince Andrew the Royal Staff said, "Badup, we're not going to serve him." That fabulous estate at Windsor and then he was moved up north. I'm told there was a staff rebellion and staff went to their superior, not to the King, but he ultimately got to the King and they said, "We don't want him here. We don't want to have to cooking breakfast. We don't want to have to make his bed. We do not want to have to clean up after him.

We do not want to have to clean his bathroom. They're really angry with him. The people that working Buckingham Palace, like any good job, love the institution they work for. If you work for me, then love what we're doing. If you don't, if you hate what I'm doing, get out. Go and find another job. And so the staff at Buckingham Palace, from the executives to the cleaners, they're really proud of working there. They're really proud of being part of the British Royal

Family Institution. And to have him come into that, that is so rude to the staff. And I'm told

that was a big part in the invite being revoked. That is incredible. I love that. I love that.

It's like, here's who's bossing Harry around now. The servants who would have been cleaning your toilet have more say than you do with the King. I love it. And also another win for Catherine William, their beautiful family at Wimbledon on Sunday for the Gentleman's final. And they were they just they embody the future. The young glamorous optimistic future of the monarchy as, you know,

was somehow a win. Okay. I want you to feel quick. Don't, don't, don't, don't think that like she flew

“all that way. They were already in Europe. Oh, right. They were in Portugal, right? Yeah, they were”

in Portugal. It was an hour away. So she didn't get on a 12 hour flight with the kids. They were already in Portugal. And they rocked up for a few hours and left. They went in hours. So one other thing is that Harry thinks that Elton John might pay legal fees to talk to us about that. Yeah, not going to. Elton has the money. So Elton has made more money from the Lion King of all things. That roadway show. That's where he makes his money from. If you think about it,

Elton John can do one concert a night. There are 20 productions of the Lion King.

You know what I mean? Elton can only sit at one piano at one concert a night everywhere in the world of Australia, London, New York, Paris. There is a Lion King. There's a tour of the Lion King.

“The cash, the biggest, biggest property in the history of entertainment. He's not Titanic.”

It's not Star Wars. It's the Lion King. Really? It's bigger than any movie. It is a cash cow, an Elton makes a massive amount of money from that. So Elton has the money. It's great. He has the money to pay, but he's not doing it. You know, your friends are your friends until you ask them to pay your legal bills. And then they're not, you know, he's saying get his wedding. He's sent him his private plane to bring him to Paris. Remember, they flew into the south of France. Elton's

fine doing that. But to actually ask someone for cash. That's really, really ghost. And it's really tricky. And so this I'm told could end the friendships. In fact, this could be the next Beckham's. This could be another celebrity friend who falls out with the marcos. And once again, it's their own fault. They demand their expect. They are entitled to too much. And even friends at some points, they know. I was thinking the exact same word you used. Go, it's so ghost. You know,

“Charles, for a time when the like Queen was still alive, I believe the reporting was she asked”

Charles why won't you at least just take a phone call from Harry now. And again, and Charles reportedly said, I am not a bank. Yes, yes. Life insurance. We all know we need it, but we keep putting it off because we think it's complicated or expensive or that we will somehow live forever stop telling yourself any of it. Take care of it today with select quote in 15 minutes. You could have coverage that fits your life and your budget. Of course, most of us would rather do almost

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chaos there. Apparently, there was a breach and a group of kids or people stampeted their way in. They locked down the stadium for four hours. The show didn't begin until 12, 20 a.m. in the morning. Like, what is the real story here? This is so strange. And you know, when shows in New York start that late, I mean, they wind up costing the performer a ton of money because the unions do not want to go past their, they have hardouts. What's the real story? Yeah, I find this so repulsive.

Now, I know the world of rap because I worked for duty for a long time. They like chaos. They like people stampeding. Many a person has played that venue. Many a pop star has played New

MetLife Stadium. I was there. It was beautifully organized. Higher good people, jazzy. Higher people that make this work. They exist. You didn't. Now, the question is, was that on purpose? So, today we all thought you were this magical beetle type person and there were stampeds and your

“Michael Jackson. Or was it that you're not that organized? I think he is pretty organized.”

I think this is part of that hip-hop culture where they manipulate France. We've seen it. Remember Travis Scott had people die at his concert? Yeah. Because it's just not need to be this way. We know how to do this. We know how to organize a concert. We know how to get people either now of a stadium. The football seem to be okay doing it. So, what makes jazzy different? And that lies on jazzy. That's on humor, friend. You've got a, if you put on a show,

it's not just your job to put on a great show. It's to keep people safe. In fact, I would argue that's even more important than singing in a great melody. Keep people safe. And if you don't do that, shame on you. I blame jazzy for this and it's not a good look and maybe the fans think this good and maybe jazzy and the hip-hop community today is trending because of this.

Ultimately, it's just bad management. It's just a bad look and I'd hate to think it was done on purpose.

People can get hurt. I couldn't agree with you more. You know, speaking of Shantidi Combs, he was promoting. This was back in the early 90s. People died in that state. And he got off with a slap on the wrist because God knows why. Okay, I want to take a quick look at Madonna who is celebrating now. Confessions 2 has hit number one on the Billboard charts. So, she is celebrating her first number one album in quite some time. She was performing in Queen's

last night at the knockdown in Queens. She went on at one am. Again, this was kind of, she's she's got on stage. We're going to take a look at this full screen. A pair of giant inflatable legs, like a woman's legs, like as if the bodies in repose and the legs are spread so that she can be penetrated. Okay, it's classy. We're 67. We're quiet. And then we're going to show this real of her

“attempting to gingerly climb up on the DJ booth. Okay. So, we can, like, what's going on with Madonna?”

And is there anybody in her realm who can try to talk some sense into her? No, two partners. No, there's nobody around Madonna that can talk to her. Whenever I've met Madonna or interviewed her, everybody around her is absolutely terrified of her. She's the Queen B and they jump when she, she says jump. Now, what's happened to her? It breaks my heart. As a former Madonna fan, as somebody who grew up dance in a round-by-bedroom listening to like a prayer and like a virgin,

the Madonna that I loved would have turned into this old lady. She was a lad to grow older. I wish she turned into Debbie Harry. I wish she turned in. Like Madonna was cool. This isn't cool. You know, I don't mind the sexualization. I don't mind the raunchiness. What I mind is, it's really naff. It's not cool. It's really desperate. There's a way to do it.

Yeah, Madonna was never desperate. She was ahead of the culture. She wasn't bowing down to plastic

surgery and bowtocks and fillers and all those, those things. She wasn't making herself

“into a frank. They're Madonna that I thought I knew. It goes back to Taylor Swift, doesn't it?”

We don't know them. Yeah, and let's remember too. Madonna didn't give a damn about old people until she got old. In fact, she was rude to open. I get it, Madonna. I know you scream ages of every chance you have now. Some truth to that, but also to, she's the terrible messenger of the ages. Movement. Because when she was younger, she made fun of share. She made fun of anybody that was older than her. Now suddenly, she's old. We all have to care about ages. I'm really, really disappointed

in her. I wish her the best. I think I'm happy. She has a number one record because it means so much to her. And that's the other question too. Why do you care? Like at this point, you've got

nothing to prove. You've got a billion dollars. Go and make friends with your daughter. Go and

go and have a great life. You don't need to do this anymore. It just stinks of desperation. And I think because the other one went number one, there's some saving grace. But it's nothing like the old age. She sold 100,000 records. 20 years ago, the promotion department used to give 100,000 records away. But she was trying to sell in 20. So it all escapes me. I hope she's happy. I feel

of the culture. She was dragging the culture into where she wanted it to be. It's not that anymore. She also still has young kids. She's adopted several kids. Your 67-year-old single mother is out performing at a nightclub at 1 a.m. on a Sunday dressed like that. Like dancing in between two inflatable legs. The inflatable legs reminded me of like the Beastie Boys tour for licensed to ill. They had those like, "Ladable disc." Like, "Decon stage." Right? They had the inflatable penis. You know,

“they were opening for Madonna, I believe, on the "Ladable penis." Right? Yeah, that's cool back there.”

It was that. Okay. Now, as we wrap, Savannah Guthrie has taken yet another leave of absence. She was on the today show. This is June 23rd. I believe this is right after TMZ announced they've gotten yet another note from a person or person's claiming to be the abductors here. She is to ask people to really to bang people to come forward. Somebody knows something. We are in agony. We cannot be at peace. So now they're how much I try to come out here every day. It's smile and

find that joy and I will. I promise I will. This is the moment to tell you that we need your help begging for your help. And the reports are page six is reporting now that Savannah is on

indefinite hiatus. This is the second obviously break that she has taken. Rob, what are you hearing

from inside the walls at Studio 1A? Yeah, that it's just not working for anybody. Savannah wanted to

“come back and so I think they were right in observing those wishes. However, this is not working.”

She needs to take some time away. They're very worried about Savannah. They're putting on a smile for two hours a day when something is so ugly in your life. It's just so artificial. Go and deal with what's important and it's not a TV show. It's your family. So I'm happy she's taking that time off. What I am interested in is that Hoda hasn't replaced her. I've been making calls, I've been phoning around. We know we have reported it for a long time. There is no love lost

between Savannah and Hoda recently in New York Magazine. Had a story about the today show where they're reporting is that Savannah was jealous of Hoda when they used to walk out and talk to the crowd. People had Hoda signs. They did not have Savannah signs. Hoda has more social media followers

she's got more of a connection with that audience and that always bothered Savannah. And so I don't

know Savannah has been involved in this decision but the fan Hoda isn't sitting there. It's really telling to me. I hope Savannah goes and takes some time that she clearly needs and I tread carefully around Savannah because what's happened is just horrific. But what I don't tread carefully around is the mechanics of the today show. It's a multimillion dollar business. It is so interesting to me that the person that should have been there for the last few days is Hoda. She's still on salary.

She still gets paid by NBC. She's not. She did not quit the entire network. She's on salary for specials, for prime time stuff, for praise. She did not leave. And so football act. She didn't

“quit. She's still involved in the NBC network. And I think part of that too was to have a safety net.”

If something happened, if Craig was sick, they didn't know. This was going to happen clearly. Nobody knew it was going to happen with Savannah. But the bench is pretty smaller over there. They've not done a very good job. Really? Yes. Talent. And so they did not want to get rid of Hoda.

And they're so wealthy in the show. Make so much money. If we have to give Hoda a couple of million

dollars a year to stay home, we'll do it. And then we've got a safety net. Well, they needed the safety net over the last few days. And she's not there. What's changed? It's so interesting. I actually don't think she should return personally. I think she should leave that behind. And there are ways in which I think she can be a really good force in the culture. I don't know that this is for her. Now, as to that shallow bench you're talking about, it couldn't be more stark.

Now that Savannah's not there. It's not Chanel Jones, who they've been trying to plug in. And I couldn't name any of the other faces. I've been seeing just yesterday morning as, you know, they've got these major stars coming through because NBC universal is behind the Odyssey and behind Jennifer Garner's new terrible streaming show, which I'll get to at a later point. But like all these major stars are coming through. And like I couldn't tell you who is conducting

these interviews. They're also, they're not given it to Carson Daley, who's their pop culture guy. They're not giving them to Willie Geist, that piece of plywood known as Willie

I just wanted to ask you about this report from Hello magazine during the July 10th installment of the today's show. If they faced an unexpected switchup and Dylan Dryer and Al Roker, thank you Billy Baldwin for what we know about Billy Baldwin Bush. Billy Bush. Billy Bush. What we know thank you about Al Roker Craig said, I'm glad they're not here on the air. Now Marlene went to go get that clip so we could show it and apparently allegedly reportedly the today show had it scrubbed

“because the nerve. So but I just love that I think Craig is a secret troublemaker. He's on air. He's like,”

I'm glad they're not here. I like it. Let me be honest, I think on that show many, many times, it is a Viper's pit. It is the bloodshed of just being girls and boys from school. It's just,

you go on a lot of sets. The first time I did your show, I do I get it. It's a great show. Your team is

great. You'll, that'd be you feel it. You just know you've done so many shows. You know the Viper. The first time I went to the Ellen Show, I didn't do it was viral, right? We almost. She was just an awful human being. The today show has really darker returns. It's just a dark place. The fact that this show allowed Matt Lauer to get away with what he did backstage, it tells you who they are. The fact this show kicks and curry out after dedicating her life to the show,

“it tells you who they are. So when you see the today show stuff, talk about what a family they are,”

we're just in this together. We love each, it's all lies. It is a bunch of Viper's and what they've not been able to do is find a new snake because what they've got in the pit at the moment is pathetic. I don't know any of these people. I turn on the today show. I don't know these people. I recognize Craig, who with these, the joking turnily at NBC, and it's an NBC show. So the reference is a little bit inside baseball. Is they call them do you'll or no deal girls? They just open suitcases.

They're just pretty models. They're pretty. I just like that earlier thing where you said, you know you were you were filling in for Andy Cohen. He was too drunk and hung over to show up for work. And you were like, it was their gossip segment and then you corrected yourself and you were like, they call it buzz because they won't use the word gossip. You could have a rapist allegedly reportedly running the show, literally with a rape button allegedly reportedly under his desk.

God forbid you use the word gossip. But they really wanted them. That's the dilemma of it. I used to have a morning show on VH1 and a report. It was a gossip show. It was called the gossip table. It was in the title. What are the reporters who sat at that table with me for three years is now working for the today show. So they want the gossip. They just pretend they don't. They hire people to give the gossip. When they hired me, it wasn't for my charm. It was for the gossip.

“I just wasn't allowed to call it gossip. I think now the nerve and the culture has changed so much.”

Just be honest. The audience is so smart. Just be honest. When I watch morning TV, it's all gossip. It's all and that's fun. That's not a bad thing. And so I think with the today's show, it's a bunch of phone number loneliness. Be who you are. Put on a great gossip show. Get Windy Williams back to life. She hosted it. I'd watch all week. Bring Lini leaks in. Like bring somebody in with a personality. This bench they have.

It's rough. I don't know. Teelo no deal. Teel or no deal. Well, Rob, it is always the best deal

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