The Nerve with Maureen Callahan
The Nerve with Maureen Callahan

The Truth Behind Meghan & Harry's U.K. Return, Anna Faris' Sobriety, & Oprah's "Stedman" Illusion

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Maureen Callahan is joined by royal biographer Lady Colin Campbell to discuss the latest on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's return to the UK, including reports that Harry’s visa status and lawsuit ex...

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- Hello, and welcome to your Tuesday edition

of The Derr of I am your host, Maureen Kallahan, another Bangor, trouble makers, another Bangor. We will begin with the very latest

on the gruesome two-somes imminent return

to the United Kingdom. The one and only Lady Colin Campbell, who has Intel that no other royal reporter has will be joining us to discuss what exactly is the inciting factor.

She says that this return is as hasty as it seems. It's not a long play. It's a very hasty, my interpretation, panic, return. Those two are on the run. And Lady C also has updates as to Harry's reported,

alleged other woman, and if this move is going to impact that alleged reported relationship, then two stories that the nerve went deep on last week, two shocking stories. That the mainstream media was telling one way.

We said, we're gonna tell the truth.

As we always do here, it's our real talk

about fake people. We've got updates, and it looks like the nerve is beginning to move this oil tanker that is the sick mainstream media celebrity industrial complex around.

I've got special trouble maker, special trouble maker stuff to show you. And by the way, I had so much fun. It was my first time joining the live stream on Saturday for the mini.

I had the most fun with you guys. And I can't wait to go back in again. We're trying to figure out exactly when would be good, but I can't wait to join you again. And then Teddy was on the ground in Chicago.

And he's got a live field report. And on camera live field report, he is really, really flourishing the student. We've got that. We've got the nerves investigation

here on the East Coast HQ, New York-based, Jeff, Jeff, who bombed into the live chat. Two weeks ago when we did our Oprah Mini.

I swear, I think Jeff was my inciting event.

I was like, if Oprah and or one of her people is going to just bomb in and say things like, you know what, this is some in substance. It's not verbatim, but this is really what Jeff said to our mini that I think Oprah is closing her scandal

scarred, Oprah Winfrey leadership academy for girls in South Africa because there have been far too many accounts of girls at that school reporting sexual abuse and that the final final event was probably a student at that school giving birth on campus

and her newborn discovered dead in her bag. You know, Jeff had to say that dead babies are found literally at every school in South Africa. Are they really Jeff? Oprah, you know, we know you're watching.

You're going to love it. So stick around and for the rest of us, it is time. So we ask, are you ready? Are you ready? Let's go!

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and that the nerve sent you. Joining us now is none other than Lady Colin Campbell, better known to all of us as our beloved Lady C, royal biographer, New York Times bestselling author, Palace Insider, she literally wrote the book.

I have it here, Megan and Harry, the real story.

She has never, ever been afraid to say exactly what she thinks

and what the real story is when it comes to the Sussexes, welcome back, Lady C, and your special guest, Aurora. Thank you so much, my dear moron, you so lovely to see you. You look awesome, I know you. You're so sweet, so do you.

You're recovering and you would never know that you just had surgery recently. It's incredible, Lady C, nothing can keep you. Nothing can keep you from being hot on the trail of what the gruesome to some are up to.

And I thought of you immediately when this bombshell was dropped last week. I watched your most recent episode. We can find Lady C on her YouTube channel, Lady Colin Campbell, among the many theories as to why.

We've got possible alleged other women in America, Harry's in love with allegedly, she's allegedly in love with him. She is on the West Coast, per reporting, you are reporting. So there's the other woman, there's finances. Harry and the plaintiffs, or the plaintiffs rather in his most recent trial,

have been ordered by the court to pay $13 million

US by this Friday. There is the visa question.

Is Harry on the verge of being deported for having lied?

Potentially on his application, as not having used drugs, unlike what he memorialized, in the pages of his memoir, "Spare," or is it something else, Lady C? What do you know? Well, I'm sorry, I think you're pretty much covered all the bases.

I suspect it's a combination of what awful I've been told. But the rarely decisive thing has been ice. And in terms of what he has, what the visa application contains,

and what not only his memoirs contain,

but what he has said otherwise, as well, and that, that in fact, I was told that they gave that they moralists, you know, these things are done on a nod and a wink, and that he rarely should get out by the 31st of August. If he's not otherwise, they intend to withdraw his visa.

Once they withdraw his visa and they investigate, if he turns out that he's lied, which it would appear that he has, it is a mandatory five years in federal prison, irrespective of who you are. You know, Lady C, this one shocks me the most, because of every reason, the gruesome two, some have to attempt to re-entry,

that I consider the most treacherous re-entry, since we all witnessed Apollo 11.

It would be the visa thing feels like the least sexy, right?

And other women, their finances, but, you know, being sort of persona-non-grata in Hollywood circles, and for Americans, you know, forgive me if I, if I sound naive, I'll speak only for myself. I would have thought that at this level, the son of the King of England, with whom the American president has a very good relationship.

That, as you said, and not in a wink, it would be like, we're just will ignore this, it's lying about drug use. Why do you think this has become sort of inflamed to the point where it feels like Harry and Meghan are leaving in a hurry? Well, I think that's the pressing issue, and I think that's the icing on the cake,

but I think the cake is intact, otherwise, you know, everything else holds up as well, and it's just become the perfect storm in so far as I have been informed, the fact of the matter is that the real thing is that President Trump is not 100% in charge of what is going on. Let's remember that.

And you have very committed, very dedicated people who are pushing for certain things,

That Trump may not, you know, Trump has made the absolutely clear as well,

that he is not going to interfere if his aparatics are going to be very determined.

He's already made that clear. And let's remember, Trump is in actually quite a lot of trouble. Politically, you know, the latest thing with the bond market is just one of the many examples. Trump is not going to be antagonizing any of his more committed for warmth of a better world, followers who are going to be very enthusiastic in pursuing something,

and telling them, "No, you have to back off."

He's not going to tell him, "I don't think, in fact, my understanding is, he has not told them to back off what he has done, or what has been done, is I've been chipped off. The king has been chipped off, doubtless, the British government has been chipped off, and so, and doubtless, Harry and Meghan have been chipped off, so that he can make an orderly exit,

a sort of Charlie Chaplin move, because remember,

Charlie Chaplin left the United States and was never allowed to return.

I think he did, I think he did to collect an Oscar at the end of his life, but his visa was withdrawn, and so I'm not saying that Harry will suffer the same fate as Charlie Chaplin, but with all of this going on, this is a very politically sensitive time for the British government, for the monarchy, for Trump, and for the American people, generally.

So, I think it's all become a perfect storm, and Harry and Meghan have been chipped off,

and they know they better move, because otherwise, there is nothing else provides the urgency that they have shown, and, yeah, that makes, that makes complete sense, lady-see, would it also explain what is your reporting on when King Charles found out they were moving

back? The reporting here is that Harry never mentioned it at the meeting that he had just several

weeks ago with the King, that the King found out on Sunday evening, so that would be three and a half days before it broke here on Wednesday, late afternoon. Was this as much of a shock to him? Well, I'm pretty sure it wasn't a shock to him, because he already knew, if I knew, he had to have known, I mean, come on, I'm not that important, so if I knew, he had to have known,

but that doesn't mean that Harry told him, and he might well have thought, well, I'm just gonna

only fit up to Harry and wait and see what Harry does, but he was definitely not told by Harry until Sunday, and, but Harry knew, because they were looking at schools while they were here, and there's also the coffin was story that's been making the rounds, that they couldn't tell the King until the school had confirmed that they were going to accept the children. That's utter rubbish. I mean, everybody that I have ever known, in any country I have lived in,

who had any status whatsoever. You pitch up at a prep school that you want your children to go to, and it is obvious that you're going, your children are going to be accepted. They may not, they may say, well, we will, you know, we'll get back to you, but you know, I mean, I pitched up at Hill House, my children were accepted, and then you wait for the letter. It happens with everybody, so for them to try to say that they need a confirmation from the school before

informing his father, it's absolute rubbish. Exactly. Wouldn't they, if they needed a lever pulled, which as you just astutely observed, they do not let the King of England know that they need to get their children enrolled somewhere, immediately, who better, who better to help? Also, I noticed this weekend. So there were, there was footage of Prince William and Catherine, Princess of Wales driving two-bound moral within a day or two of this bombshell news. It was reported here in America,

that that's something of a quote-unquote summit related to the return of the Sussexes, who apparently told people magazine that they feel they have successfully executed the very thing

That the late Queen Elizabeth forbade, which was, exacting a half-in half-out...

that they were intent to return to the UK now, as quote-unquote, "private royals plus."

I mean, it's not like a Disney plus subscription, like an app that you sort of elevate, you know, this royal plus, and then, on Sunday, we saw, we got great footage and a great sightline of William Catherine and Prince George in the back seat, driving to church on Sunday, which I feel was sending a message of unity and calm, and that the whales are supremely unbothered, although I can only imagine what William is thinking behind closed doors. Well, everybody's speaking bricks.

You know, Harry and Meghan have already asserted in Australia and before they went to Australia,

that effectively they had torn up the Sanctuary agreement, and let's remember Harry, I think

it was when he was somewhere in Europe after Australia, I don't remember where. He's, and he was on, and he said, "I'm a working royal." Was it that new crane, Lady C? That's right, exactly. That's right, in Ukraine, and he's, so they are coming over here quite clearly determined if they can get away with it to be as mischief making as possible and cause as much friction as possible, and pretend that they are half in half, but they are totally out. You know, what is being characterized as a royal summit

is actually the gathering of all of the royals that takes place every year at the same time. So, this is not everybody's scurrying up to Balmoral so that they can sort out the Harry and Meghan

problem. I mean, insofar as my understanding is, they have already sorted out the way they intend

to be dealing with the Harry and Meghan problem, and it's, you know, they will continue to deal with it the way they have been dealing with it, which is give them enough rope to hand themselves and Harry and Meghan have made themselves so unpopular that nobody wants to touch them. You know, even, not even, watch them accordingly to Richie, Guy Richie, he doesn't want to touch them. Nobody wants to touch them. The Biden's, they ran from him, the Clinton's, they ran from him,

the getty's got a mutual friend to tell me that I was to broadcast the fact that they were unhappy that Meghan was trying to noble Gordon, because she wanted Dan, fine, steam, seat, and that, and she was, and, and our Gavin Newsom was dodging her calls, and so mean, and the Democrats don't want anything to do with her. I'm getting a lot of information from Democrats at the moment. They don't want anything to do with her either. So it's not just the Republicans and the Trump

Democrats. It's the Democrats, because they know she will, she is an albatross. Yes, she also, it was reported that meeting with Gavin Newsom, she wanted to lobby for Kamala Harris's Senate seat, with an eye for Meghan to take the White House one day. I mean, we're not at all delusional. Guy Richie won't even return her calls to these planted stories. You know, the guy Richie thing reminds me so much, ladies, see if that report that the House of Dior would just die to have

Meghan be the face of Dior, and it seems that Meghan was reportedly allegedly the source of that report, because Dior within a few days smacked it right down. And let's remember also that she's the one who put Balenciaga on the map. I mean, who, like, ever heard of Christopher Balenciaga or Pauly, potentially before Meghan discovered him and they also slapped her down. No, we didn't ask her.

She begged to come. It's so, it's so incredible. I love it so much. I mean, what do you expect?

Okay, before we get to the reaction when they do a light, the way in which they will do so if they

attempt to upstage Prince Diorge on his first day at Eaton, what do you expect of this distance now,

geographically between Harry and his alleged reported other woman? Well, let's put it this way.

If you and I were in the position, would we not be able to hop on a plane?

Meghan's going to be here for minimal lengths of time. Meghan is ostensibly going to be here.

Harry is going to be based here. Meghan is going to be in and out. And so there will be lots of time for Harry to take philosophical clauses on the penetrating aspects of a vacant stand. There is relative to cards and show powers. You're killing me. You're killing me. Okay, one final question before we get to the reception of those two. There is also a theory I definitely adhere to the theory that this is the beginning of a sort of long goodbye to Meghan from the royal family

that we established. Harry, back as a resident of Britain, the children are enrolled in boarding schools. Meghan could easily say, what am I to do? The children are enrolled in boarding schools. I have no life in the UK. I am not welcome there. I work in America. And so, and with a king Charles, I believe would be happy to cut Meghan a big fat check that I think a future king William would be far less inclined to do. Well, Charles is not exactly known for his open handy.

This I've got to tell you. He's very open-handed with his own luxuries, but he's not that well-known

to be open-handed with anybody else. I mean, that's why, for instance, Diana had to blackmail him

with the George Smith stories to up the offer from 3 million to 70 million. Remind us of the

George Smith stories, ladies see? Well, she basically said, if you don't up your offer, I am going to accuse you and Michael Forsett of value, this disturbed, disaffective, former member of staff of XYZ, A-B-N-C. He immediately quotes his check-ins. Oh, I recall this, I recall this. But I think that going off what I know of the royal family and the way things happen in not only the royal world, but the aristocratic world. When a marriage becomes unfaithable or

untenable and let's remember by moving the children back here, as long as the married to the home

is here, Meghan has no rights to the children the way she would in California. So, she is the move to California was great from her appointment if she wanted to club Harry in a separation. That's an advantage, she loses when the children and Harry are here, because she can't say that the married to the home is California when everybody else is living here. So, she loses that advantage, but I suspect what will happen in the longer run is until Ellen drops his standards and decides

he doesn't like crazy blondes anymore. He but he likes equally nasty brunettes, shades of embaterd

and Meghan Markle, until someone else of that ilk comes along. I think he will be here

based here, she will come in and out and their marriage will be supposedly on, but it will be a de facto arrangement, as happens all the time. I mean, I can think of many examples, the prince and princess Michael of Kent are a present example. The previous example was the late Duke and Duchess of Devonshire, I mean Devonshire Rand, the Devonshire, says she ran chatsworth, she was a powerhouse, she was one of the midfield sisters and asked Devonshire, used to spend most of his time in London,

whole mungering and everybody knew it and nobody cared. It's a civilised way of when a marriage has reached the point that it's not tenable. You go, one goes south, the other goes north and there

is the illusion that everything is still intact, but everybody knows that it's basically an arrangement.

On the last and until let's say a third party, you know, the sun may be repea...

sins of the father, I use that word colloquially, not morally. Charles was so determined,

he was in love with Camilla, he wasn't going to give her up and it got flushed into the public

bloodstream until there was no other answer than for them to divorce, for the queen to announce that they would be separating on the road to divorce. I could see something very similar happening with Harry and Meghan, I really could. Well, darling, I hate to see it, but you're wrong. So do you tell? Do you tell? You're wrong. Charles, Prince Philip, the queen, everybody wanted Diana and Charles to ostensibly stay together, even after they were officially

separate, separated that they would not get a divorce. It's all there in my book, The Rail Diana. She is the one who wanted a divorce. She is the one who pushed for a divorce. That's one of the main reasons why she gave the Bashir interview. She knew it was going to precipitate a divorce, which indeed it did. And the fact that it was done on the criminal processes, doesn't all to the fact that Diana rarely knew that she wanted to give that interview as a

get out of jail code. She used my first down a book as the initial get out of jail code. Then when we

fell out with my first book, which was called "Downing Private, the Princess No Body Notes", she went to Angela Morten, who facilitated her with her propaganda because a lot of it was rubbish. And then even that didn't result in the separation until, finally, there was the separation because she made it so impossible. But she's along who wanted the separation. He and Camilla were perfectly happy to trundle along in the good old traditional way, which I have to tell you many members of

royal families and the aristocracy do. And those relationships are judged to be a solid and it's worthy of respect as any married to a union. Understood, fascinating. I have to get your first Diana book. I just got the real Diana and several others of yours, but I have to get that one. Before we let you go, Lady C,

what is the mood in Great Britain as everyone braces for impact?

Well, nobody wants to give them security. Nobody wants to pay for it. I think one of the newspapers did a poll and it's now the two or four percent who would like them to get government paid security. There's no basis for them to get actual government security. The way they would

like because Prince Andrew never had it. Prince Edward and Sophie don't have it. Princess Anne doesn't

have it. And they are all working royals or were. So there's no basis for Harry and Meghan to get it. So there's that and everybody's just waiting with Baited Breast and of course the new newspapers are salivating because all of a sudden there is the fattened calf on the table in different stages of being roasted and they so those who water rare need can chop off those who would cut the weed can chop off. And the newspapers have been handed manner from heaven and they are

going to be running with all of and they're there also going to assist in the creation of mischievous lines like Harrod William needs to forgive Harry. They know it's mischievous. They know it's irresponsible but it makes for great copy and entertainment and they need to look at their

damned balances. And so we are in for a very terrible feast. The only thing is we might turn out to be

gluttons and they're all of the all of what we eat in them. It's such an incredible story and we get

way to discuss it with you further slice into that fattened calf as you just so indelibly said

Lady see thank you so much for joining us on the nerve to discuss this we wil...

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is on hidden yeah paneteers mother hidden died last week she was days away from her 37th birthday the investigation is ongoing hidden wrote a memoir that was published in May so we have hidden documentation of her version of the story and in her version of the story her mother was a stage mom from hell that's hidden version Leslie Vogel Hayden's mother has wasted no time in giving interviews to the media because i suppose a camera she's a failed actress herself and you know i'm just

going to say it the way i see it her daughter's corpse is barely cold and this woman is making

the media rounds and trust me when i tell you she looks like the ghoul that i think she is

here she was on good morning america on monday august 24th this looks like a pre tape so she was up and ready to discuss the media mentee here she here she is this is the beginning of the interview in which Leslie like the adult she is addresses quote unquote the haters here we go how are you doing it's a process and i think it will probably hit me later on

i would say to the haters out there you don't have a right to tell me how i mourn the loss of my second child

nobody's telling her how to mourn it i mean do i think it's in elegant at best to slap on

a pair of false eyelashes that are coming on glued metaphor of all metaphors and um make up that

Is shaky at best i mean i look at this woman and i see the crazy old overtand...

there's something about marie she does not seem well either what i'm criticizing is the ability

of a mother who just lost her daughter who's granddaughter is being raised in warch tourn you

crane because that was safer for that little girl than being with her mother in america sitting for the national news media now again he didn't wrote of her mother pushing her into acting she began modeling at eleven months old i mean you know following the footsteps of brook shields and jodie foster the two of two both of whom somehow remained intact um so he didn't really didn't have a chance here and in her memoir she discusses feeling as though

her mother's love was conditional upon her professional advancement as an actress who is going to become wealthy and famous and when you watch this pit this little bit of the gma piece i've been

a reporter again since i was like 17 years old i've seen this kind of thing a million times

are we reminiscing about the private daughter the no we're not we're reminiscing about the hollywood heights here we go the mother dotter duo intertwined personally and professionally from the time made in first appeared on screen born to shine the actress started appearing in commercials as a baby moving on to soaps and eventually tv dramas in film this is one of my faves this is from in the limousine on the way to the premiere of a bug's life

that's a high point for Leslie Vogel in the back of the limousine on the way to the premiere

of a bug's life hate and looks like she's seven years old and this reporting by gma again i'm going to push back on every single fucking word hidden was born to shine no hidden was born to be a piggy bank hidden was born to try to realize the failed dreams of this loser horrible woman just my opinion she couldn't make it in hollywood god damn it her daughter was going to make it and she was going to live vicariously through that daughter who was robbed of a childhood god knows

what happened to hate and paneteer as a child star by the way at a pack wind also a former child

star famous from the piano i believe she was like 11 years old when she made the piano and one

in Oscar for it uh posted something to Instagram over the weekend in which she lamented the premature deaths of hate and paneteer Michelle tracked in burg and others and said you know a child star um is beyond a fucked up thing but is particularly fucked up for girls because they get over sexualized and we all know what that's code for and that post has gone around like wildfire so for gma to frame this as hate and was born to shine no she wasn't do better writers reporters producers do

better how about you ask Leslie Vogel why she thought it was a good fucking idea to shove a baby who wasn't even one year old into show business wait till you read what i wait till you hear when i'm about to read from Hayden's memoir it's gonna blow your mind it's not to stuff everybody

else is covering it's the less obvious stuff that is i think the most telling here's Leslie Vogel

on the confrontation that Hayden wrote about in her trailer when Hayden got up the nerve say to her mother guess what mom i'm fine i need you out of my business affairs i need you out of my money i need you out of my meetings and off the red carpet soldered to my side like a siamie's fucking twin like a barnacle i cannot get rid of go away from that and do me a favor and just be my mom here's Leslie's version of events i remember being in her trailer and literally saying

nothing i was i knew that day would come it's not that i didn't expect it but it was very short

Very brief conversation and then she turned and went to set i was it's a brie...

it just i know i didn't say what she said i said you know um books like these i know it's a memoir

and so it's the author's version of events they do get legaled none of the last my understanding

this is where again we did i said this last week when it on the mini rather you know when it came to um we spliced together mega and telling Oprah that the royals were concerned and having conversations about how dark her baby skin would be and then Harry telling Tom Bradby that mega

never said that and i said reporters need to do this stuff especially on camera most especially

you pull up your laptop you pull up that clip and you make your subject who's lying lying say look at this now give me an answer to that would you like to reconsider your answer i mean we are culturally criminally prosecuting why that reporter for gma that spokesmodel didn't have Hayden's book right there and read this portion and go lying by fucking lying i mean if it if if what Hayden

is writing is true and i believe Hayden's version of events which by the way this chapter is

called room 23 and we're gonna have a segment on what room 23 is that's code why was it such a

short conversation if she knew that day was coming why didn't Leslie Vogel have a response that said you know that was that was i knew it was coming was it what i wanted to hear no was it what my daughter needed yes when she said to me i just need you to be my mother of course that was that that was a moment for me that was a lightning bolt your recap moment no and by the way this is just my opinion that woman doesn't look sober to me either she looks like she's been on a

vendor just my opinion this is from Hayden's account of said confrontation and i read from page 137

mom and i had been so in mesh in each other's lives for so long that is a failure at best of the

parent the child bears no responsibility for in mesh meant none that the boundaries between us had blurred sometimes in an ugly damaging way for instance mom had managed my earnings up to that point which means her mother had control of her finances Hayden writes at this point she was now

19 years old she was entering the third season of heroes in the fall of 2008 that made me

resent her the mother managing her earnings recently Hayden writes she and i had been pitching movies together and i decided to tell her that the cleavage bearing boho tops she wore to meetings were too risque you know parent wants to be told how to dress by her child who is the money maker my aside so it made her resent me she got upset when i didn't invite her to certain industry parties why are you going to industry parties with your daughter who is of age why why are you there

and i got upset when she wanted to stay too long at these same parties for 19 years mom and i had been living each other's lives this is where i would say Hayden has a misinterpretation of that of course she does because it's it's an abusive way of being brought up my opinion her mother was living by carriersly through her daughter now Hayden writes i'd grown up and it was time for time for me to be in the driver's seat of my own life i asked mom to come to my trailer on the heroes

set one day mom i said i can't work with you anymore i just want you to be my mom now mom picked up her purse clenched her jaw and looked straight at me you owe me she said then she turned around and walked out that's the part i would read she Leslie Vogel as she sits for any media outlet that will have her now i just want to read a little bit more because this is the part that is nobody's really reporting on um it's from chapter five called trigger

tears and Hayden is eight years old working on the CBS soap opera guiding light she had been working

On one life to live this child has been working since she was in diapers it's...

look forward to uh with AI replacing human child actors let's just let's just get rid of that we're

gonna do another segment on this too because the rot is deep um now her mother was dying dying for her

to get this job and she got it um okay the other reason mom was convinced i might become a regular character on this soap opera was because she taught me how to start crying at the exact moment ascript called for it she again this is a small child she's eight seven eight six seven eight she called these trigger tears and to summon them up all i had to do was imagine the most horrific

thing that could happen to an eight year old like my cat dying or dad suffering an agonizing death

in a blazing house and the tears would well up after a lot of practice i also figured out that if i held in my tears until my body felt like it might crack and crumble the drama doubled then the

waterworks really got going none of this was good for my developing brain heat and rates over the

past few years i've spent a lot of time reading about how the brain processes stressful events i've learned that my childhood catastrophizing i love this part because this gets into the damage that is done to a child's small rapidly developing brain that is exceedingly plastic it does not have the development that the adult brain has to differentiate between simulated emotions and real ones and yeah we see it happen with actors all the time to who like fall in love on

set while they're with other people like you can't simulate sex and not have it like bleed into your emotions your physiological responses you know i mean it's fucking crazy okay hate and rights i've learned that my childhood catastrophizing activated my amygdala hippocampus hypothermas and prefrontal cortex areas of the brain that are responsible for processing fear and anxiety when i thought of something devastating these parts of my brain sent messages throughout my body

and my heart rate rose my stress hormones including cortisol and adrenaline flooded my body

i would go into an artificial flight or fight response every no real flight response i think a real

fighter flight response every time i wield myself to cry she's an eight-year-old who's doing real damage to her nervous system and the and the brain got connection the brain and the got are constantly talking to each other directors fans and mom praised me endlessly for my over the top dramatic responses is it any surprise that this girl developed a serious drug and alcohol problem is it any surprise subconsciously she writes i began to associate catastrophe

with adoration this is incredible incredible stuff this is so insightful i mean i think she

really did have a lot of therapy she began at eight years old to associate catastrophe with adoration the praise she got for breaking down emotionally on cue which she had to summon horrific visuals in her body her cat dying horribly her father dying horribly grownups gave me positive attention when as an actor eight-year-old child my aside i failed got sick screaming cried killed grieved and suffered reality merged with my

imagination and burrowed into my core memories where all my shame and trauma lives why does she have shame and trauma at eight years old that's a question i'd love to ask Leslie Vogel what happened to her daughter the cheat was carrying so much shame and trauma at eight years old Hayden writes is it any wonder why i faced so many real struggles in my life no of course not

and then i've often wondered whether unintentionally i've brought on my traumas because i am wired to think that they are good for me aniferous we did a segment on aniferous last

Week she's out promoting its terrible new comedy spa weekend and um we covere...

because Hayden panetier had just died and we talked about how Hayden panetier on her book

tour just months ago was clearly fucked up and everybody acted like she was

speaking and behaving normally and then we showed the clip of Anna on the today show looking like she was fucked up my opinion beyond all recognition curiously two days after the nerves piece which went really viral we'll talk about it people magazine picked up an appearance that Anna did on Chelsea handlers podcast Chelsea handler who literally wrote a memoir called are you there vodka it's me Chelsea

claiming that she had she was clean and she's been clean for a very long time

and uh she had to quit alcohol

hey you know i don't know maybe she's telling the truth and she's just on hard drugs because it looks

to me like she is on hard drugs just my opinion and everybody regurgitating this shit the mainstream media celebrity industrial complex i'm just gonna i said it with Hayden and i'm gonna say it now and trust me i don't want to be right about the shit i really don't but when she dies if she doesn't get help immediately she will drop dead very soon

they're all gonna be in shock oh my god let's watch entertainment tonight's coverage

of Anna Ferris and her appearance on Chelsea's podcast saying that she's quit drinking and keep in mind by the way this is so relevant because we talked about this last week with Sarah Paulie's memoir where she wrote about when her mother died the writers on her hit Canadian show she was a child wrote in a ton of stuff about her characters mother being dead because they knew they would get a lot of great tears and emotion out of Sarah who was a child who was

grieving her real mother's death at such a tender age genetic herty wrote about similar stuff to and her memoir of childhood stardom see what the writers if again if you're listening to this part of the podcast i'm going to encourage you to watch this segment of the show on YouTube or find it on Instagram wherever watch with the writers of scary movie are doing with Anna Ferris's well reported drinking problem well reported drinking problem this is how Holly would

fucks with their stars and this is how Holly would mocks their stars who are collapsing under the pressure it's not it's a little long but there's so much in it we could not cut it up this YouTube clip was published by entertainment tonight last Friday August 21st so three days after the nerves piece showing a clearly fucked up our opinion antifares they had the fucking nerve to

title this piece why antifares gave up drinking here we go honestly she ultimately took a step back

from drinking to not self sabotage after ironically starring as a woman battling alcoholism a mom then making her big screen return in the new scary movie where her character Cindy now has a drinking problem I'm Jack Sarah's boyfriend I heard so much about you none of it good passing her empty and a pilot and they're mind for revitalizing her acting career they've got her character drinking into her car putting on a plastic hat with two

your hands attached to the top mixing drinking of water in her car okay opening the door and all of the kids calling out I didn't even believe in like Los Angeles like journey talk like I've arrived but it turns out I have and it has you ever arrived so everyone involved in scary movie in any position of power is making fun of antifares's drinking problem history of alcoholism I don't know if she would call it alcoholism

but that's what it seems like to me and on that red carpet that was a few weeks ago

Promoting scary movie don't tell me that woman isn't fucked up

but Chelsea handlers out here being super responsible again we don't know when this was recorded

but I don't think the release the timing of this release is accidental

release two days after the nerve did our segment on Anna being fucked up we think on the today show by the way the clip we cut for social media of our Anna coverage that Instagram clip as of this recording has racked up almost 500,000 views and I was surprised to see in my feed the top comment from the

former SNL star Sherry O' Terry who wrote to me and I quote why in the world are you bashing

this girl she seems completely fine Sherry I'm not bashing her I'm bashing a celebrity industrial media complex that you may or may not be familiar with anymore that is treating Anna

Ferris as if she is sober and clear eyed and cogent when I think she looks fucked up

and 500,000 people apparently agree that we know of we're showing a full screen of the comments underneath Sherry O' Terry's slap down to me you misinterpret Sherry you misinterpret and in

some in substance like the 50 comments to follow or basically like Sherry what's wrong with you

she's not fine but what are you seeing that we're not all seeing she's fucked up here's the Chelsea sound bite released August 20th here we go in the arrogance of my 20s I did feel envious of people who got their big break in a different way and I think that is a really ungracious idea do you think that has to do with not drinking yeah because I know you stopped drinking yeah so maybe I do you know that lit that a little bit right

one of the many gifts that turns out there's a correlation

drinking and depression for me okay we can end it I think this is I think the timing is not accidental

and um that's fine you know Anna and Chelsea can propagate eyes that she's sober let's look at Anna the day before that interview dropped Chelsea my son I'm sorry and the only reason I stopped I'm working off the block I mean I heard you coming off the building is for Ryan and her job as she's signing autographs on the streets of New York City but she's fine she's the picture of health and sobriety get the fuck out okay that's enough that's enough now onto

happier happier stuff Paul and Pam Paul from New Zealand who um you know we adore here at the nerve and by the way if you have not checked out his sub stack go check out Paul from New Zealand sub stack it's Paul from New Zealand and subscribe I am an avid happy subscriber Paul advances the nerve and he promotes the nerve and he's so prolific and there's artwork up there that specific to his sub stack and artwork that he shares with with me and members of the nerve

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and Paul and Pam oh look Pam signed it Pam signed it they sent the magazine which I have yet to unwrap and um she writes two moreine and team nerve magazine inside a magazine we know how you enjoy a Mac I do I love a magazine this copy is from New Zealand the cover story is Prince Harry's alleged romantic affair and the nerve is cited on page 10 wait I have to I'm being very careful Paul and Pam not to worry in my excitement I won't rip a thing oh like oh this is going in the this

Is going in the nerve wing of the Smithsonian oh my god the nerve moves the c...

new idea Harry a fair bombshell I'm dying I'm dying I'm dying love you guys love you guys

Paul and Pam thank you also trouble maker Kay and Hamlet sent trouble maker Kay sends gifts

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for the first time in seven years those two have not been seen together in seven years

until this harpo reunion party that she she threw I don't even know who threw it

rob Scott reporting that like Oprah didn't have anything to do with it it was just like producers

who decided to throw it and then Oprah got wind of it and was like hey you know who I'd love to bring I got I got I got I got it higher some sort of exhumation crew but we'll get this corpse out in automated stemming she brought stemming out again when I say the nerve moves the fucking culture do you think Oprah is bringing stemming out if not for the nerve asking since our inception where's stemming we're stemming now my beloved teddy van Helen he really was on the ground in Chicago this

guy's been rocking up the frequent flyer miles he was on the ground in Chicago looking for stemming himself here is Teddy's report marina reporting live from Chicago we still don't know if stemming is here but I've been working the room checking the entrances and following my nose and let me tell you my nose does not usually miss back to you in the studio great job little dude great job now as disgusting his inaugural report for Montesito we do

have to get Teddy you know dialed into getting specifics in his reporting you know the nose goes only so far again we love you Teddy but we're gonna we're gonna train you up okay people magazine Oprah Winfrey makes rare appearance really people really Oprah Winfrey makes rare appearance with longtime partners stemming Graham the headline is Oprah Winfrey makes appearance with

stemming Graham for the first time in seven years that's the fucking headline not this bullshit okay

I'm gonna read from people this was published August 11th now they keep their relationship out of the spotlight although Winfrey has been with Graham since 1986 has she has she people writes Winfrey instead means last public appearance together was it Tyler Perry Studios grand opening Tyler Perry's in a world of shit right now too Tyler Perry Studios grand opening gala in October 2019 Oprah also posted a video of her she's in between arts Smith the chef arts

Smith and um stemming Graham let's take a look at that arts fight together entertainment tonight boy have you guys found yourselves squarely in the nerves crosshairs thank god you don't cover these stories the way they should be covered which is the nerve way entertainment tonight is pretending it is completely normal that Oprah has hauled stemming out for the first time in seven years that there's been no other new media entity on the

scene that's been bang in the strum where stedman where stedman where stedman gall wasn't there gall wasn't at that party this is their coverage of um stedman's exhumation

and um they're going to play I believe without irony one of uh they're most recent interviews with

stedman and you guys just listen to the answer that stedman gives to this question which was post in

1998 here we go one thing that has stood the test of time Oprah's 39 year rel...

stedman Graham they just made their first public appears together in seven years during an

Oprah show reunion in Chicago why should I? While stedman largely remains behind the scenes in 1999 UT spent the day with the business man shooting hoops we got plenty of time you got to catch a flame let's just say you don't have any businesses to run or anything right and hearing some rare insight into why their relationship works what's the best part about being without um I would say uh being the board said okay just a couple of things before we get to Jeff Smith

stedman is not right I've gone over one of his motivational books on a former nerve he's really not right he's asked what's the best part of being with Oprah and he says

I would say the best part is being her boyfriend number two um entertainment tonight I believe

is doing irresponsible quote unquote journalism by saying that um stedman was in fact there

by Oprah's side at that party because we never hear stedman speak we live in the age of AI

I don't know I don't know that that was Jeff there do we have a secondary source on that anybody else who interacted with stedman touched him heard him speak no was stedman speaking in that video no he was not he was not why is the most recent sound by piece of footage entertainment tonight can pull of stedman gram from 1998 now who is Jeff Smith who is Jeff Smith who bombed into our live chat two weeks ago now many

trouble makers wrote in I mean we were deluge it was amazing it was amazing many of you said hey Marine you have this all wrong it's not Jeff Smith SMYTH surname it's actually Jeff Smith

j-e-f-f apostrophe s second word myth and I thought that's amazing that is amazing and you're

probably right you're probably right now Jeff Smith bombed in with the handle all lowercase letters Jeff Smith 3930 as as he used earlier he bombed into the live chat on August 8th to say the quote dead babies are literally found at every South African school what's the big deal

so then a trouble maker who is very smart always on the case said I think I found Jeff Smith

like within five seconds and used the numbers 3930 remember we said we think that those numbers are significant right okay Marlena was convinced that she found the Jeff Smith who would be linked to that handle because there was a Jeff Smith we found online who had a phone number listed online and his phone number the last four digits of his phone number matched the digits that Jeff Smith used in his live chat nerve handle three nine three zero the last four numbers of his actual phone

number were three nine three zero this Jeff Smith is in Boston Marlena tracked down Jeff Smith cell phone and called him to ask if this was the same Jeff Smith who was active in the live chat and if so what he was trying to accomplish let's all take a listen hello Jeff speaking hi Jeff we spoke earlier this is Marlena Shiveo calling back from the nerve I was looking for the right Jeff Smith okay so I'm right back to you because you're the only

one with the why in Smith so I have to ask you because I think you're the only one who would know

were you in the live chat of the nerves Oprah episode a week ago no not familiar with it you're not familiar with it no okay well somebody with your exact name that works for the exact same company is commenting on the show a lot so it wasn't you no it's what it's on me what is it that you guys do or what is the show it's a podcast called

The nerve with more in calahan and we did an episode a week ago and someone w...

name and like I said the last four digits of the telephone number for your Boston office was

in the comment section fiercely defending one side of the story it's very strange I mean

the fifth definitely not me and I've no idea what you're talking about so okay yeah this is definitely caught me off guard because my telephone is cell phone is and my personal cell phone is so so this is strange okay or the issues of the topics just so I didn't idea what they were talking about Oprah Winfrey closing her school for girls in South Africa okay yeah okay all right that's good to know yeah come on definitely

took my you know using my information that's unfortunate yeah so just be aware that's it yeah

I wish I could help you further so Jeff says there that someone took my information

troublemakers alerted us to a couple of possibilities as to why the name Jeff could be

significant to Oprah Oprah had a brother who died he died of AIDS and she never really talks

about him troublemakers also told us that one of her long time executive producers was named Jeff so we are gonna stay hot on this then more Lena went and it was time for our quarterly call to the cost is in which is the last known real of sighting we've got of Stedman Graham to see if he has come by yet Stedman if your live you've got to be aware of the

nerf by now you've got to be aware of our campaign to make sure that you are safe and sound and

Stedman the only the only proof of life that we can accept at this point to ensure that you are alive

and with us is is you appearing on the nerf like they're like in person there's no other way we're not going to accept anything else now as you guys know the nerf sent Stedman a valentine stake gift which is really a care package filled with like escape gear in case he's in the basement somewhere roadside flares on the like and we we mailed that package to his last known location which was at the cost is in in Maryland where he often enjoys a lobster so Marlene

call them to see has Stedman come by to pick up his special valentine stake gift from the nerf this is the cost is in yeah hi I am calling it to follow up about a package that we sent to the cost is in it was supposed to be picked up by Stedman Graham and I'm just checking in to see if he ever came by to grab it okay thank you for calling the cost is in we need your part take so famous taste it on the today show with Kathy we in Hota hello hello are you there no yeah maybe I can

pick up the package from the nerf is still there okay all right thank you so much okay so there is several things I love about this phone call one they're still holding the package we love you cost is in we love you number two they don't even know if they're perishables in that thing but they're holding on to it and they they're waiting for Stedman to come get it we sent that thing in February it's the end of August number three I love that they're outgoing message has not been updated

because Kathy Lee and Hota fourth hour of today show Kathy left the today show on April 5 2019 it's almost is that without the exact length of time a math is not my strong suit that Oprah had not been seen in public with Stedman is that seven years yeah it's seven years so so okay could it be as has been theorized by quantum physicists and the like that um we are all kind of in the matrix and we're all operating like time is elastic and we're all operating in different

realms and that it in some realm it's still 2019 and Stedman's alive in 2019 could it be

We have a troublemaker who we adore her name is Jessica Cardosa and um I am i...

and I also have like an affinity for what she's doing because she too is a fellow Long Islander

and Jessica not only um helps put together Teddy's reports from the field but she

showed how easily here she's gonna show in this video we asked her if she could give us an AI version

of someone else who Oprah has adored um so that we could see how easily she could fake

Stedman being by her side you guys are gonna die here we go

it's Ditty it's Sean Combs her one time BFF she loved Sean Combs standing by her side in his orange prison jumpsuit holding his bible and being mobile and engaged he's moving his

head he's looking at her he's raising the bible that does it that does it for our Tuesday edition

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