‘The Pitt’ Season 2, Episode 11: The ICE Episode

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Hello, welcome back to the press. You used TV podcast feed. I'm Joye Robinson. I'm Rob Mahoney. We are sitting on the correct side of the table this week.

I didn't know there was one. Our listeners did. They noticed that we were on the wrong side last week.

Here's the most important thing.

It's episode 11 of the pit. Yes. It's 5pm. Howard made it through surgery. Thank God.

Howard, if you didn't like, if the update from Dana passed you by, Howard made it through surgery. We don't know how post office is going to go.

“But the operation I think was like the riskiest part of this thing and he made it through.”

So I'm thrilled personally. I would have loved to defy the reality of the show. Would it just like, well, it's wheel him down for a victory last. But I'll take just the declaration that he is doing fine. Howard just gets in the push.

One time, one loop around the floor and back into the elevator. Is that what you do after surgery? Okay. Well, listen. We did go into the park.

You know? We did. So we left the premises lately today. What's the farthest geographically that we have been from the ET? I think it's probably Robby on the road.

Oh, Robby. Yeah, obviously, Robby on the road.

But never further than that.

Never further than that. Thank you. Well, Mr. Green would have something to say. But maybe not. As we did in turn.

But Robby on the break, like headed to work. We've been to the park before. We've been to the roof. I don't know which is further the park or the roof. It's a great question.

“That's going to require some triangulation that I'm incapable of.”

Because I don't do math. And then we've been to the floor of the ET that that Whittaker was like. Stay squatting in. The abandoned floor. Right.

The haunted floor. Two more hours left in the shift. According to many, many characters inside of this episode of television. It's really how you know. A couple things.

We are going to be. We have a second episode this week. Hmm. We're going to be covering love story because Rob promised. I did.

And now we're going to have to do it. I will do it. So that's what it means. So you say them on a podcast. Yeah.

And yeah, sure. In theory, they could just cut it out. Yeah. But I left it in. I just tried to perform in a way where it's uncullable.

Like it's so integral to the flow of the podcast. You couldn't possibly trim it. I can't cut around Rob's jewels. And one of the jewels that you dropped was that we will be covering love story. The last two episodes, basically.

Yes. Penaltyment and finale is the plan. So we'll be back at some point later this week with a love story check in. Sounds great to me. Better late than ever.

Is it a normal functional cadence for that show? No. But we are talking about it. Here. Here we are.

It's the 90s. Anything else you want to say about the prestige. Uh, feed in general before we get into the episode.

I mean, for this show, you can always email us at [email protected].

Dr. [email protected]. Come find us on social media at prestigiousTV pod, where the TV prescriptions show are starting to be dulled out. And listen, we're just like slightly losing our minds with props, but give me a great TV advice in the same time.

It's true. So we can be all things at once. Find yourself a medical professional real or fake who can do both. Exactly. We can only email in box just a couple of things.

And in the comments that people leave on Spotify and YouTube and on various social media platforms. One thing that we, let's say, missed last week is that Dr. Park Park, the shark. Yes. We really enjoyed a lot. It's played by Lou Furgno Jr. son of the original TV Hulk, Lou Furgno.

I did miss that entirely. And then one of our listeners said in the comments, like, you can really tell that Rob and Joe watch a network television, because I guess he's been on like rookie perhaps. And I'm one one. You know, and I'm just sort of like, I've not seen any of these shows that this guy showed up on.

But he was great. I accidentally like coincidentally described him as hulking. Yeah. And it was like, was that a joke? It wasn't.

It was a coincidence, but here we are.

“Do you regret or are you proud of your hulking word choice?”

I do love being introduced to an actor that only to find that there is an elaborate, deep, stand culture around that actor based off of something like 911. Right. I mean, there's just a, there's a world out there for everybody. And I'm not in that one, but I'm happy to have him on the pit occasional.

I was informed by someone when I told them that sort of we skipped this and they're like, Oh, you didn't know about his stand on 911. I didn't fact check this. So I'm about to maybe spread some misinformation. But I believe his role in I won one.

A woman, and so the people who really wanted a queer relationship on that show, like he was the villain of that,

a particular storyline, perhaps to a certain sect of the fandom. Anyway, great here on the pit, we hope he returns. I mean, I hope everyone keeps their limbs, but I would like to see him again.

“Our listener Lisa wrote in to note that the worst thing to eat in bed is a nature valley grilled all”

of art, and I really agree. It's a great call. I think she nailed it, honestly. It was a great pick. I have to say Norman also emailed in and said, a full on a crawfish boil, which I mean,

I just can't understand the circumstances that lead to such a thing. I'm just saying, if your imagination is running wild, it's really hard. He also bad in bed. You know what I mean? We can all make very bad choices to varying degrees.

A nature valley specifically nature valley grilled all of our feels attainable and also disastrous. They're probably a step of all crumbles. And yet wonderful.

Like I do love one, but never in bed.

Um, Amanda wrote in, we were sort of asking the medical professionals to weigh in on whether or not they thought that Langdon was being sort of like overly picky with Santos when she was just like rolling her eyes constantly. He was trying to quote unquote teacher, but was he sort of, we get a, a Langdon Santos follow up in this episode, which we can talk about.

But our listener Amanda wrote in to say, a Langdon is being nitpicking and exacting, but it's entirely by the book. The show may play it out differently, but if they're using reality, Santos isn't 100% right to be worried about retaliation, because residences can be middle schools on times and busy urban teaching hospitals provide a lot of autonomy starting at R2.

So having someone questioning her every decision can be hard. But Langdon's returned would have a ton of rules. And one of those would 100% be specifically about how we acts around Santos. And that includes do everything by the book. He will have to document every interaction and be prepared for every interaction.

He'll be put under a microscope, so you better believe he's being careful around her.

I'm not sure that that's true. I mean, I think Amanda's being accurate to her lived experience. But in this case, when we find out inside of this episode episode 11, that only three people know that Langdon stole drugs from the ED, who are those three people, they would be Robby.

For sure. Santos, I would say four because I think Dana knows. And I think Whitaker knows. So what do we think Whitaker knows?

“I think you know specifically about the drugs, right?”

He was being really dicey about the whole, like, Louis situation. Well, I think the only wiggle room around that is there's clearly a widespread gossipy understanding that Langdon is coming back from, you know, substance abuse from rehab. And so maybe Whitaker's reaction is just on a substance abuse, like note, although it's so specific and it's coming from the exact source.

It would be a hell of a coincidence if that were the case. So I think Whitaker is on the list, whether he's being counted or not, fair to say. She might say officially three people know Robby data. But also my roommate. Yeah.

The only person who's really checked in with me on how I feel about this. And does Dana fully know? Well, I mean, he, like, talked to her in the kitchen last season. Yeah. Where he's like, Robby thinks I'm doing this.

And she's like, are you? I think she knows. Because if this is the list, doesn't Garcia also know? Oh, yeah. Wow. I mean, Santos, the list is quite long.

I mean, I don't know where the line is. And now Dr. Alha, she me. Clearly. So interesting. Okay, last but not least sort of in the let's catch up on last week.

We had a lot of pushback. I would say on our assessment of the Dr. Robby Samira interaction. And I kind of want to drill down that a little bit because like, we got a lot of listeners. I'm discarding sort of clips that were circulated on social media because that

was a lot more flexible context, but some of our listeners were like, hey,

“I think the reason that Robby blew up at Samira was because he had his own”

panic attack last last season, and he was sort of like, lashing out as he had himself as much as he was lashing out at her. Yeah. I agree. I thought we talked about that, but if we did not say that specifically,

I don't disagree about that. I have a lot of empathy for people who suffer with like depression and anxiety. And all that sort of stuff like that. I have like experienced that in my lifetime. I'm not really medicated for that now in my life, but like,

there have been times in my life where my, my experience of those things has caused me to behave shiddly to other people. And I think you can have empathy for that kind of shitty behavior, and also whole people accountable if you had shitty behavior.

And I think especially with Robby because he's in such a position of authority, that if he, I don't care, I do care, but I also don't care how anxious or self-hating he is. If he's using that, those emotions or miss channeling those emotions and lashing out as his at his subordinates, that's not acceptable.

I can understand the source of it and not, you know, condone the behavior. And that being said, last but not least, I will just say, I don't need to condone the behavior of every single character I'll show you know.

We love complicated characters.

Yes. Carol on Plurvis, like we love a complicated protagonist. So I don't need Robby to be an angel. Like I like, we talk about all the time. How we like that characters are often right and wrong inside of the same episode.

You know, and inside of this episode certainly Robby has moments of grace and moments of once again shitty behavior. And so I like that about him. I don't need him to be perfect. I wouldn't want him to be perfect.

But when he behaves inappropriately, I want to talk about that. You know, so I mean, it's crazy to think that you can both take the wide view of what kind of writing is good for the show, which is Robby behaving in this way because it's good dramatic tension, especially if you take it from the lens of him, taking things out on Mohan because of what he himself is experiencing and what he hates about

himself.

The weakness he perceives in himself makes total sense.

Great motivation of that character. That wasn't really the conversation we were having last week because we were talking about the interpersonal workplace connection of these two people. And yeah, just because something can be explained doesn't mean you're not being a dick. Like doesn't mean you're not being an asshole in that moment.

“And most importantly, doesn't mean you should be accountable for your behavior.”

Just because it comes from a place that other people can make sense of. And I think what's interesting about, you know, we talked last week. Again, we won't get into specifics of what we think is going on with Dr. Alhashimi because that we're saving that for like sort of a. We were helped by the medical community spoiler medical diagnosis session,

but like there's something going on with her. And we were questioning whether or not that. She should be practicing medicine, you know what I mean? She's spacing out and we don't, you know, the show is not told as why. But she's spacing out.

And so is it responsible to be practicing high level medicine if you're undergoing that?

Is it responsible for Robbie to be in charge of all of these people who are learning. Hard, like a hard profession under hard emotional circumstances. Is it responsible for him to be working there as well? Is his emotional turmoil, his reluctance to get psychological help with it, which is friend who is a psychiatrist is like, "But do you need this?"

You know, I think everyone knows. Dana knows. Everyone knows that Robbie needs some psychological help. Abbott knows that he needs some psychological help. The fact that Robbie is potentially suicidal this season.

Like that is interesting to me is great writing. Yes. Should you be in charge of, you know, stressed out vulnerable, like hairy med students and residents, etc. I don't know.

Can we just segue straight into the Robbie Mohan stuff within this episode? We can, yeah. Because I do think part of this conversation is his whole argument to her about the compartmentalization, right? You need within these walls to keep all of your personal stuff out.

Leave it out there. I think there is truth to that, right?

“Like you have to leave parts of yourself outside.”

Whatever happened to you this morning. Whatever you're looking forward to after work. Like yeah, or humans, we carry that stuff with us all the time. But while you're focusing on a patient, you need to be focused on a patient. That part, I can wrap my head around.

I can understand. He is not someone who, as you're looting due to Joe, has been very successful in doing that. I think all of us would fail over time. And especially with the level of baggage that these kinds of doctors are carrying, it's just not a fully realistic ask.

It's something you can endeavor to do. But I don't think it's ever going to be something you're successful in doing. I don't think it's something that he does. And certainly, you know, oftentimes, and we get another, we get another McKay ogle, the interactions out of this episode about empathy being an important part of the medical profession.

So like your ability to empathize with people. You know, McKay talked to Javadi last week about sort of like, there are certain barriers you have to put up for your own emotional well-being. Dana has a conversation with Mel in the stairwell, a very like gentle conversation about like, hey, this sounds tough, but get up and go back to work.

You know what I mean? Some tough love from Dana. But it's all coming from a different place in a different energy than Robbie is able to offer. Yes.

Samira inside of this situation. And like the, the Mohan like Robbie, it's, it's, it's Samira, and it's Cassie as well because McKay also gets it from Robbie.

“I think unfairly inside of this episode.”

And like that was true in season one that those two people specifically seemed to get on Robbie's like bad side. And I don't think, you know, we've been, I've been asking a question about like gender. I don't think it's just a gender thing because, you know, there's like, he has some real connection with Javadi inside of this episode.

He is with Mel with Mel with something, you know, like, so I think it's, when you think about McKay and Mohan, and I think we've had listeners right in about this. Like, he's our, our most empathetic doctors. Our doctors most inclined to just sort of like,

really give their all for a patient to like, with, with Mohan or earlier this season, like, do anything she can do to help her, her patient with diabetes, right? With with Cassie, go across the street to the park to help this woman who will not come into the E.D. You know, be part of the street team, all the sort of stuff like that.

is something that Robbie is afraid of or something that Robbie understands

has caused him pain, his empathy. I don't, I, I haven't fully like drilled down on it.

“But I think the show definitely wants us to wonder why these two people,”

because like, when he comes out hard on Samir right here, he's coming down hard on her in this specific case for her lack of oversight of Ogle V. Yes, inside of the, the English teacher, Mr. Green case. But we were literally just talking about this last week, how he, he, the Javadi and Ogle V, same exact level.

Javadi gets shit for the oversight in her case. And Whittaker is not given any shit, even though he is the doctor overseeing her in that situation. Samir comes up, takes responsibility and gets shit. You know, so like, you were asking, like, I think a reasonable question, like, "Well, does Whittaker get a pass because this show sort of treats the Med students as a fair doctor?"

But here in this very episode clear is the held accountable for Ogle V's actions. And so the fact that he's drilling down on Samirah, and then for Cassie for McKay, he's like, "Did you tell anyone?" She did. She told Chias Samirah to cover her patients for her. She didn't tell Robbie, she didn't tell Dana. She was also across the street. Like, she was, I just felt like him coming down on her for that was,

Yeah. And the way he told her that Roxy died was almost like, it was not kind. When we've watched McKay give so much to this Roxy case this season. You know, like, that was just really tough. So like, it's these two doctors,

“very specifically, I think, that have a real talent for getting on Robbie's nerves for some reason, you know?”

Yeah, because it really isn't about what they've done right or wrong to your larger point. I do think McKay's choice is kind of an impossible one. Like, she has been on Kiki's case for months. She says, trying to get her to come in, trying to get her to receive treatment, trying to just get her to accept help.

She finally comes in at what turns out to be like the worst possible time,

because it ends up being when Roxy passes away. And McKay has been there for that whole family every step of the process. And I'm sure we'd love to have been there in that moment. And because that is something that's like an extra curricular endeavor on company time, I do get some of Robbie's frustration.

I'm like, you're like, you just checked out to do this street team stuff while you're on, like, in my ED on our clock, everything has already been crazy today. Is this really the best use of our time? At the same time, like, if Duke had been across the street, Exactly.

Like, I think all of these doctors who care, and it's, I think it's very funny to me that Ogo V comes back, and it's like not receptive to the pitch about the street team. Like, not everyone is a winner.

I sure all think about that.

So, what I wrote my notes, Kiki and the park with Necrosis, an excellent Beatles B side, perhaps if you ever wanted to write the lyrics for that. But like, please don't. Among the most disgusting things we've seen on the pit,

unfortunately. This is part of the increasing, like, you know, defrosting of Ogo V, right? Like, yeah, he's, he's not want to be on street team. He is repulsed on an uncouth when a bit,

when it comes to training Kiki, not as uncouth as we've ever seen him, but like, fairly uncouth. But him or her running roster, and saying, like, I see Oregon donation in my future. Like, you know, and then he, and then his absolute shell shock,

response to Mr. Greens coding and, and him starting the episode bragging, like, I want to do another intubation, then it's going to be a record. And then Robbie, inside of this trauma situation, says, do you want to do it in Ogo V just freezes

and then it's Javadi, who does it? Because he's just, like, he gave that guy a book. He became emotional. I'm not sure. And now he's, he's up with Dr. Shamsi, like, in surgery,

but not in a gunner kind of way. But then I'm genuinely concerned about this patient kind of way and I messed up. That's all we needed.

“You know, I think the humbling was an important piece of that.”

And we've seen that in a couple cases throughout the season. But he or treating a patient as something more than a case study. Right. As something more than a chance to intubate. Yeah.

All it took is, like, almost killing your fakes or get father. And yeah, like, I'm starting to come around on Ogo V. I think it helps that he is, he's a very funny in this episode. Like, him going up to Samira about the heart attack situation. I honestly, I did find very funny.

And just having him be in places where, yes, he's able to show some empathy, demonstrate some empathy. And he's on an interesting side counterpoint from Javadi on this. Like, Javadi is almost like two affected by what's going on with Roxy because of her own relationship with her mom.

And it's hitting her very hard and what's going on with Roxy's kids. The fact that the other percosious med student, who's also fucking up on cases, is kind of doing it for the opposite reason of like, he's such a know it all.

key easiest explanation for what was going on with Mr. Green must be the thing

because he knows his stuff. He's so plugged in. He's so like ready with every answer and comes to realize like, these are full people walking in and anything could be wrong with them. And it doesn't matter what their medical history is. It doesn't matter what the easiest explanation is.

“You have to look at them as complete people.”

It's different, but also is it same because these are his daddy issues and Victoria is dealing with her mommy issues. Robby was saying that it has no place in the E.D. But that's what we're all, we're all that. Not in my E.D.

I do have so much empathy where people going through mental health crisis, which Roxy seemingly is. It's harder for me. I mean, this is just a day in the life of Roxy. It's another bad, no good, very bad day for Dr. Rubinovich.

But like, I did not have a lot of time or space for LinkedIn last season. How are you feeling about him now?

Great. We could talk about it. We'll talk about the Santos thing.

But like, I have to say, I'm not. Yeah, I know, we're under the pages here. But LinkedIn's trying to get help. Yes. And is someone who is actually trying to get help.

He does do like a little bit of a pity party that I was not like, did not want to be invited to at the end of this episode. Sure. But like, he's someone who has had major issues and now he's trying to get better. And I have like just a lot of space for that kind of story.

“There's, there's a section of the episode where he is majorly white knighting, right?”

Like he is helping with Becca and Mel. He like comes outside to help Mel. We see him running inside with a child in his arms. You know what I mean? Like there are these moments of just sort of like, Langed in what a guy inside of this episode, right? And then there's the Santos interaction.

And so I, again, it, we love a character who's both right and wrong inside of an episode. I know that like all season you haven't had as much space for like does I have, which is fine, which is absolutely fine. Tell me what rubbed you the wrong way the most about this. I'm assuming the Santos part.

Yeah, I think a lot of it is the Santos part. And I agree with you.

Langed in his head some incredible moments all season even within this episode.

He's been dishing out as apologies. And you can parse those apologies and you may feel different ways about them. I think the idea that he comes up to her. And again, this is one of the people who knows the truth. Right.

And he's treating her almost like she doesn't. Like he's apologizing for being an asshole, which he was on her first day. He was an asshole in a way that was like, would have torpedoed her entire career. Would have been had massive professional repercussions. It was a shitty apology.

She doesn't own any of that. He just like, I was mean to you. And if I could go back and do it differently, I would do it differently. And I just found it like for the history of these characters, which grant you was only one day and a long time ago,

woefully insufficient for what he ultimately tried to do to Santos on that day. I don't disagree with you. Yeah. I don't disagree with you.

“And then I think, I think her response is really good.”

Yep. Her turning around just being like, you know what? No. Like, you don't get to pretend like that's a real apology. Um.

Yeah. I'm not going to excuse it. I, I like, I kind of like this though. I do. I do.

She's like trying and he's failing. And in some ways, you know, it's easy with Mel because Mel adores him. Yeah. She apparently is on the shortlist of people. Don't know the truth about why he was gone.

Uh, he's, he does a great job with the heat stroke kid. You know, like he's a talented doctor. Like all of these things are true. And then when it comes to the immense part, a specifically with Santos and Robbie, he is not nailing it.

And I think that that is, again, great writing. Yeah. I think it's wonderful writing. I think setting up this dynamic in this way, which as you mentioned in the email section,

Langdon is her superior and can correct her on all of these like medical procedures. But she also knows what happened. And it away holds that over him in a way that kind of like completely messes with their power dynamic. Yeah. I think part of what has rubbed me the wrong way.

Even though he says, like, you don't have to accept my apology, but I want to give it. But he has carried himself throughout the season as if he is like entitled to acceptance. I don't, I don't agree because I think for a lot of the season he was sort of like ducking around. I agree. I agree.

But then here he comes up. And it's like as soon as he gets the slightest resistance was apology, it's, but it was so hard for me. My wife almost left me like, I have all these. And I think Santos is absolutely right.

Like this is what happens when you mess up. And I just don't hear a lot. I don't hear a lot of taking accountability in going to rehab for the substance abuse issues. I don't hear a lot of accountability for the workplace. Shitstorm that he started to create and has not really been held responsible for in any way.

I agree with you. I agree with you. And I think that like. Um. I think he's.

I think I just agree with our listeners that are, and I think he raises point two words like.

No doubt which is Robby's note for Dana.

Yeah. Yeah. And it is like, uh, listen, we were short staffed. So like all of this should have been handled. As our listeners may have pointed out, there should be like.

HR should be involved in any interaction that he has with Santos going forward. In fact, he should be on the night like they should not be on the same shift together. You know, like if he's to come back to the ED. Yeah. So I guess this is my long term pitch for pit after hours pit night shifts.

Uh, Dr. Lington said too much power to have pit HR the web series. Dr. Ellis, Dr. Shen, Dr. Ab and Dr. Lington. I'm not a bad idea on the nature. I do think this is one of the areas that's complicated by not everyone knowing. Right.

It's like if this were all out in the open and somehow linked and still kept his job.

“I think a lot of those measures would be taken.”

But how many people forget the fact that linked and so drugs even know. The exact history he has with Santos other than like they got into it in front of other people. I'll be interested to see how Dr. L has she me handles knowing the full information. Right. She's been offering him a lot of grace, but she did have all the information.

So we'll see what happens. Anything else you would say about Heathrow Kid? I thought it was really interesting. A really interesting joy moment that joy was sort of like in the in a role. We usually actually see Santos in where she was just like immediately.

Very suspicious and judgmental of this mom. Robbie has his like, hey man, you don't know how trauma is going to manifest. It might manifest like me being near tears all the time inside of my own. Well, you don't know how trauma is going to manifest. And then this woman tries to walk into traffic and Dr. L has she be sort of stopped sir.

What do you want to say about this? I mean, it's a horrifying plot line in a lot of different ways. Yeah. I, for one appreciate the quandary that linked and racist at the end of the day, which is what happens if her son recovers before she has been cleared to leave what could be an involuntary.

You're right. That's just like a quagmire. I love the pit digging into.

“I think we as TV viewers are conditioned like joy to look at the people walking who are acting a particular might be like, is there something more here?”

Like, what's the wrinkle to this story? And I said this was all due respect. They cast the exact kind of woman you would cast. If this were like a weirder, more horrible even more in a various plot line than it is. Tell me what about her rings that way too.

Yeah. Catherine Dillon Ortiz, who I think does a phenomenal job in this episode. Yes. She just has kind of a haunted look to her in a way that it's like, if there was going to be a mom who intentionally or kind of intentionally hurt her kid and came into the pit like a munchowsen by proxy plot line or something. I think you would also cast her for it.

Okay. I don't know how to parse that other than the pit is clearly handholding us into some degree of skepticism. But she's behaving oddly in a way that I think makes your alarms want to go off even though it is seemingly clear by this episode that it's more just like the trauma associated with the guilt of her circumstances. I don't know about the casting though. I will obviously that answer.

Are you like a murder podcast person or do you enjoy like true crime? Absolutely. I don't know if you had like your profile set up of like, you know, different kinds of things. I think it's just like murderers. I mean, and not look not to profile too too deliberately, but like, uh, we love to put people in boxes.

This is why you love the pit because the pit is all about just box of people not they don't. I just see like a wispy far away kind of maybe whitish pale woman. I'm like, okay, there's like something happening here. I don't know what it is exactly. I'm trying to figure that in joy is trying to figure it out.

Were you on joy side when she grabbed Pearl is risk to, uh, today the kids aren't and Pearl was so upset about it. Yeah, Pearl was not on her side. She was like, get the fuck off me. It was really good. I really liked it.

That part of it was fascinating though, in terms of the treatment of a boy like Michael who's the one who comes in with heat stroke like this idea of the broslo tape, where you don't have the way this is seriously.

“I think that's just one of those little details.”

I'm sure if you work in a hospital, you're like, yeah, obviously. And for dummies like us we're like, oh, this is the most interesting thing I've ever heard. Did you have a funny ass moment of this episode? I feel like there were low key a lot of very funny moments in this episode.

I did love the absolute disbelief from our guy Roberto when Whitaker has to explain that he's basically never seen a baseball game anymore.

And his life, but certainly isn't watching it now. I know who Roberto Clemente is. I mean, even if you're not from Pittsburgh. I mean, come on. Your, your sports adjacent enough to us most that.

Joanna Robbins knows who Roberto Clemente is. Mike is also related to our guy Roberto who refuses any pain meds because he does not want to lose this game ball that he got. What he screams when they like reduce the fraction he like haulers and Donnie does not finish. I can't go. It was so good to me.

Is that just like his time in the ED or like, is this a callback to him being like, I can't hear babies crying anymore? I didn't know that together.

I just said he's such a, we get so many moments in this episode where he just be in a pro.

Yeah. And Emma's like, what is it that Donnie's doing? I also be putting on love. Like, I just assumed it was that, but it might be the baby crying. Um, anything else you want to say about?

Well, so while we're in the Roberto section. Sure. Like, Santas and Whitaker are doing this together and then they broke Melon to it. And Mel has to like put the clipboard on the ground to get these like squabbling, you know, kids to fill up the paperwork. But Whitaker checking in on Santas.

Yeah.

“And like, saying I have to tell you something, right?”

I, I guessing about like, how I was sitting for Robbie. I would assume earlier in the episode or a different, yeah, earlier in the episode. Uh, Robbie's asking Mel, do you have anyone to talk to while she's in the middle of saying no actually. I don't. He cuts her off so that he can yell it.

Okay. I love that both because it is the exact opposite of the tech to took with Samira Mohan for no reason of like, Can you express a single bit of regard before you move on?

But then he also moves on mid-sentence anyway.

Right. So Robbie's just, I mean, he's in a place. She's happened to it. It's a lot for Whitaker to like see her. Hmm.

No more context about how she's feeling than like other people do or care to have. You know, like Robbie has talked to her a little bit. But Robbie's been talking to her about Whitaker more than anything else, right? And like Dana hasn't really been checking, you know, Dana gives her something like, Oh, where's where's the SaaS?

Where's the snapback from you? Like, is this Santas, you know? But Whitaker's like, are you okay? Like, how's it going? What's going on?

You know, and I just, I love that relationship. Yeah. You know, and how we see. And then like, it makes me reassess. I can't remember if we talked about this at the time, but it really makes me reassess.

All of Whitaker's edginess around Langdon because like,

Yes, he knows, but also he has more reason to care. Yes. Because he cares about how Trinity is doing, you know? Inside of his return. Absolutely. I mean, he seems like just like a naturally pretty caring person,

perhaps to a detriment. Perhaps to the point of being pulled in all these different directions at once, we'll see firm benefits. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure it's coming back to him in some way.

And I love that you met that out with Robbie earlier, in terms of him sing something in Samira that has really cost him in his career, potentially, in terms of that empathy.

“And you have to wonder with Whitaker too, someone who he has taken”

who he thinks very highly of, who he has tried to ward off of, not just having boundaries with, you know, a farmhouse Amy. Amy. But also just like, I think you're caring for people all day. And at some point you have to care for yourself.

Like, it can't be all from here to the street team to Amy and back. Like at some point it has to be Whitaker time. And I don't know that he are guys getting that much of it. He seems to enjoy being on the farm. He does.

I don't know. Let's talk about Melking. Do you feel like the entire reason the deposition story line exists? Is to put Mel on edge enough that she, that would be believable that she would sort of like lose her shit on Becca in this way?

I kind of do. If that's it. If that's the reason why we heard all day that she is the deposition. And she's worried about it. I don't know that the payoff is worth the juices worth the squeeze there.

But like, when she lost her shit on, because actually I think I would believe this anyway, because like when she, when she's like, Becca was lying to me, her concern about scent, her concern about and then her checking in on Becca and she's being like, "Can I have Adam's parents phone numbers?"

And Becca's like, "Why?" You know? And then Becca just like leaves. Yeah. You know?

And then for Mel to express her fear to data, where she's just like, I've watched Elf one gazillion times. I've poured everything into my care for this person. Expecting that it would be the two of us. And this would be my life outside of work

would be my life with my sister. Right. And she's got a boyfriend. And maybe that's the future that she had divisions for herself.

“And then what is my future if she completely moves on for me?”

I just, I thought that was really well done. It is something that like, it's not often done inside of a context like this. You usually see it with like a parent who was poured everything into a kid and without kid wants to separate as naturally kids want to do often in adolescence or whatever from there.

Parents, they're like, "What do you mean?" I've just like poured so much into you. What do you mean? To put it inside of this different dynamic is, I thought, really interesting.

And a really interesting payoff from the Becca Mel relationship and season one. Absolutely. We're, yeah, it just seemed like all Elf and cupcakes all the time. Yeah.

Yeah. And it can't be. Possum pizza. Possum pizza, of course. I do, I'm very interested in that idea of how do you care for someone

to the degree that Mel cares about cares for and about Becca without treating them like your child. Yeah. And it's a really weird thing to do to have to do over a long enough term because the wires get all crossed up.

Like people, when they are dependent on you, even in a, you know, an assisted communal living degree, you just kind of like hard wires into your brain

and you start infantilizing them conscious or not by like asking further boyfriends parents phone number or even like hounding the facility for it. Right. I completely get how Mel wound up in this place.

And I agree with you that I don't think we need the deposition to do it. Right. Couldn't this day have just been stressful enough like so much of this episode to me is we are reaching the point in the, in the shift. Where everyone is, it's 5 p.m.

There's only one more hour left after this one as many people will tell you. Everyone is running off fumes. Nobody at this point in the day has the like emotional capacity to metabolize the things that are happening.

Just Donnie and it's, I think it's really just Donnie.

“It's honestly because I think you remember to eat all day.”

You see, only one who's in regular dehydrating and eating. Him, Pearl up, maybe Dana, the only one who is surviving to this point. No princess in this episode where anything princess has gone is she in radiology? I'm terrified, but maybe she is.

[laughter] Taking up a couple extra running shifts here and there. But everyone else is collapsing. And Mel is among them where she's just like losing her mind at the idea that her sister would be able to make a decision

when it's clear that she's capable of making decisions. And for Langdon to gentle parent, Mel in a certain way and just be like, you know, you're her legal guardian and she's like, no, I have trouble turning and we're doing this thing. You really walked around that one.

[laughter] He took her gently by the hand and walked her into it. But also like him coming in when Mel is like yelling at back up and being like, Dr. King step outside. You know, like, I don't, okay, in the Langdon time.

[laughter] Fine, so do you think there is any movie that you have seen 164 times? Oh, that's a great question. 164?

That, I mean, Pearl Mel. Do you, is there a movie you've seen 164 times? The only one I can think of is I had a period in my high school life for every night to go to sleep. I would put on a few good men.

And so it's like, inevitably I probably have. It depends on what you consider to be a full watch, you know? Can we, I'm sorry, can we dig into this? Yeah, let's go back. Um, what it was about a few good men

that really just sort of like gave you that sense of security.

“I think it's like, is it because you needed someone on that wall?”

I didn't need someone on that wall. I needed to feel it. You wanted someone on that wall, you needed them on that wall?

I never put it together in quite that way,

but this is what me and Robbie have in common. We need to really interrogate our shit. Like on it, like genuinely. What do you think it is about a well, you're a sorking guy? I'm a sorking guy.

And so I think there is a rhythmic pattern that is just very comforting to me. I think there's also something about like that specific style of 90s filmmaking where it's like the kind of like orchestral and the instrumental scores that come in the exact way that it's shot.

Like it's, it is very comfort viewing and maybe that's just the arrow we came from but it is for me. Yeah, I know you, I know you like to go to sleep to a movie. You like to wake up to a DVD menu sort of thing. Sure.

In the era of DVDs. Were you ever like a TV show to fall asleep to or was it always movies? A buffet for a long time. Oh yeah. Yeah.

I mean like have I spent the equivalent amount of 146 viewings of Elf watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer? Yes. But those are mini episodes. Obviously.

I don't even know what would get close. Like maybe certain like musicals when I was a kid that my sister and I just watched over and over and over again. I mean, that's the melon-beck of vibe. It's true.

Well, we're talking about Buffy, should we talk about our guy Duke, play by Jeff Kover? We should. By the way, I just think he looks great in this episode. He's not doing great internally.

No. But like the silver curls and the like... Fantastic. Almost like piratical, like mustache. I'm really into it.

We go a week's back, though, which is like bad news for Duke. It's really shocking. And it's going to take a couple hours and so Robby's like, yeah, guess who's staying beyond his surprise surprise. Yeah.

Guess who's staying for his chef. And Dr. Al-Hashimi asks like, hey, does Dr. Robby usually leave on time. And Dana's like, sometimes.

And I feel like the answer's never.

Almost never. But, you know, I'm glad though that we had some indication of what that might be. This has been like the meta-textual dance all season. It's how does it 12-hour shift become a 15-hour season. If there's not like a mass casualty event where everyone

is working trouble over the time. Three people were injured at the water park, not everyone at the water park. Yeah, exactly. And I frankly love the idea within this episode that Dana lays out. This isn't a crazy day.

The cyber attack has thrown a lot of things for a loop. But it's not that crazy. Right? If Robby needed to leave, he could leave. Granted, that was before everything flers up with Duke.

And he has this personal attachment and investment in seeing it through, which makes complete sense.

“But so much of this season is going to be about like, where can Robby let go?”

And what is he willing to let go of? And that's clearly a struggle for him. He's probably interesting to watch like, who goes home when? You know what I mean? Santos, we're, we're set up for her to be there.

Very late because she is able to have her like charts to take care of.

But like, who's the first person to go home?

Do you think? Who's the first out the door? Who is the healthiest work-life balance? That feels like Princess might already be gone. Oh, okay.

She might as she might as well. She might as well as as gone. She seems like she really has her life in order to be honest with you

Also candidate, we should note for who might know the truth about

Langdon. Because she was the one who stumbled into the Robby Langdon conversation. I don't think so either. And all she was just sort of like Robby Loss's shit.

I didn't really understand why, you know? But she saw Robby be big mad. And look, she just got her ear to the ground. Basically everything. I went under estimated Princess ever.

She's either radiology or she has taken her winnings and is like in the casino or something like that. I don't know. But I hope she's enjoying herself. Yeah, Princess first-one-home does sound pretty right to me as well.

Maybe Donnie. On the Duke front though. Yes. We've got the Vampire Slayer. Quick pause or skip ahead if you don't care.

But Robby and I are huge both the Vampire Slayer had. Yeah, we care. And there's been big Vampire Slayer news. The reboot has been canceled. Even I had a sort of like near identical reactions to this.

What was your reaction from? The way in which it happened, I found quite disappointing. Especially the story from Sarah Michelle Galler about how one of the executives involved, like not only is not a fan of the original show,

but bragged about never having finished it.

So that's like one phase. And then what hit today, we're recording this on Wednesday. This morning, both variety and the inkler came out with, like, sort of, like, who lose response, which is like a hit job and click back. I closed out.

It's closed out. Anyway, point being, they cannot make it work. I choose to believe it's the executives. I choose to believe there was, like, a George R. Martin style

“conversation in a dinner was like, what do you know about Clim?”

You know, how much? I'm going to give you the test. Yeah. How much do you really know about this show? That's a great.

Is that the benchmark? Like, what's the problem about Clim? What's the proper currency for a vampire poker game? If you don't know, I don't want to know you. Of course it is.

I think I know. I was worried about this no matter what. So I think you and I both were like, maybe this is for the best that it not happened. I mean, you know, I'm like, people work really hard on it. You know, like, all of that, that's really tough.

The young actress who thought she was going to be like the new slayer. Like, all of that stuff is really, really tough. Anytime you're trying to capture a tone that is 20, 25 years old is almost impossible to do. Yeah.

Like, even if you literally just took the exact writing from a buffie episode and tried to run it today, it just would not land in the way that it did. That's been our sort of buffie sidebar. Anything else you want to say about buffie or Duke or Robby in that in the context of Duke? I mean, I said the Jeff Cober will not be reprising either of his buffie.

I guess neither of them are really reprisable. True. But in the buffie verse, maybe they could have been.

“So I think a third role for Jeff Cober would have been in order”

if the buffie reboot had gone forward. Okay. Let's take a hard pivot to the ice storyline. It's here. It is.

The long-awaited. Do you want to just start with a quick live-in-out with the pit as we head into the ice storyline? Kai, could you please do the honors? ♪

♪ It's so beautiful. It's gorgeous. Um, agents Kara and Russo are here with this poor woman, who just wants to let her daughter know what's going on with her.

Um, agent Russo specifically, who stays masked the entire episode and is played by the tallest person I've ever seen. It's quite tall. Like I think Peter Claffier the night as seven kingdoms would look like. It's a small, comparative.

Uh, is this what you, more what you thought an ice storyline would be? Is this what you wanted? How did you feel about it? That it came through in a more overt and adversarial way. Right.

That it was not just like, oh, these Haitian parents got deported. Right. And now we're going to do it the after effects. Like, this is in the show's face. It's dealt with overtly within the plot of the episode.

Right. And as far as the live-in-out goes, Joe, I mean, we get the standard issue. Dana alerting everybody that no matter of your status, of course, you're entitled to emergency treatment. They make it very clear.

“Uh, Dr. Banks is on the beat the whole episode of like, can she make a phone call?”

Can't you do this? Like trying to connect all the dots? Um, I do think that this episode lived out like no episode of the pit is ever lived out before. And it's because of one specific thing. What's that?

Robbie, choose this ice guy out. Yeah. Gives him reads in the riot act. Right. Get it.

You need to get out of my idea. Your cost and your patients are costing me nurses. And in frankly, the most unbelievable turn of events in television history, the ice guy is like, no problem. Well, no problem.

But then he like, man handles the door. No, he's got a torn rotator cuff for somebody that's true. And then arrested, arrested. Jesse. It's also true.

Jessica arrested by ice. That death happened. Welcome to the resistance, Jesse.

Uh, Jesse, you were always my favorite.

But you're telling me this guy in that moment would, that would not be, there would be no push back. The conversation wanted to leave. I mean, you did want to leave. You wanted to leave urgently.

That part is true. You feel like he would have like arrested robbing for two. I mean, there would at least be like a fight. You know, at least be a screaming match. I think it's the way that Robby is positioned through all of this is so interesting.

Yeah.

Let's get them out of here.

I'm not happy. Let's get them out of here. Uh, the fact that people are just like pouring out of the out of chairs. People are just exiting swiftly. Yeah.

Because ice is here. You're waiting for five hours in the waiting room. And they're like, yeah, no. No. So Roxy is died.

And she's still in the room where she died. And Monica, who we've been enjoying Monica, the woman who was like, come in because she knows we're all of the forms are kept. Yes.

“Is like, hey, should we move that body to the viewing room?”

And Robby's like, no, we're going to leave it there, whatever. And she's like, should we, and then data snaps at her in a very like, breast. Then later, we see that Monica is like, a little chummy with officer. Uh, Russo.

Oh, I didn't even know that.

I'm just talking to Mrs. Patterson here, like, full blood. Is Monica Maga. Wow. And is there some sort of cutscene? Because like, we get a scene where Dana's like,

they rated Joe's in green tree. And I did look up green tree, which is suburb of Pittsburgh. That is, um, kind of like, a little bit of a blue dot surrounded by. It's, you know, it a lot of. As are a lot of places in Allegheny County, like kind of close,

but this one has gone Democrat, and then like a lot of the places around in have gone Republican, I was just curious why they called out green tree specifically. I was sort of like, it's a largely white seemingly quite like somewhat affluent Democratic suburb. And so they like ice rated a restaurant in this area.

She says that Monica's like, oh, I love that place. But I was just wondering, I'm curious. I don't know the answer this. If there's like a cutscene where Monica says something like pro ice or like. Damn.

You know, and then because I was just curious why Dana snapped at her.

So aggressively seemingly out of like nowhere when she and Monica have been so. Chummy. Yeah. You know, for a few episodes now. It's a great point.

I don't know why that reaction would track within the course of this episode. Right. They haven't really said anything that would have like set Dana off to this point. Right. Yeah, I can't really make heads or tails of it.

But Monica being like, he's just like lean across the counter. Like having a Kiki with Monica the front counter. And I just like like Monica. Lady. But listen, you can't, you can't be all living out with a pit all the time.

There's some maga in happening in different Pennsylvania. So I also, I like and I appreciate that executive producer Noel Wiley. Yeah. And Robbie by proxy is not necessarily the person to deliver it. And I really appreciate where Robbie's position in this episode,

which is his stance as you said is kind of like, let's comply. Let's comply. Let's get through this. Right.

And his opposition is not preachy and so boxy. It's like this is my ED and you were getting in my way of treating patients. It's like it's almost more ego than it is principle. Yeah. That's interesting.

But like. So what we had heard and I'm sure there will be plenty of articles. Interviews done about this. We were recording this, you know, before the episode comes out. So I'm sure there will be, you know, as much as there was buzz about it before it happened.

I'm sure there will be no Wiley interviews or John Wells interviews or whatever talking about how they, they wanted to thread the needle on this. But a lot of the buzz before this episode hit was that they were told by the network to slightly both sides this storyline. Do you feel like they did that in any way?

I'm not saying they should have. I was just sort of like, do you think Robbie not being like, get the fuck out of my ED for the very beginning? But like opening with, hey, let's just move forward.

“Is that their version of sort of like kind of both sizing it?”

Yeah. I don't know. What do you think? I think it's probably the closest you're going to get. I also think you could be right in that things could have been cut or trimmed out

to begin with. I also think having one character in a mass the whole time gives you a lot of ability to ADR around an entire plot line if you wanted to. Very true. Many of these conversations could have gone quite differently in the original cut.

I have no idea. We know from interviews that they shoot a lot of footage for pit episodes and then sort of hem it back. So, you know, there's plenty of stuff that could have been cut out of this episode. I mean, clearly nurse Jesse is arrested.

We don't know if we'll see him for the rest of the season. It's five o'clock. Yeah. The lawyer, I mean, now it's six o'clock. The lawyers are tied up with the cyber attack.

Like, are we going to see, and we're not leaving the ED to go like five Jesse? No. Something I thought was interesting is that Javadi filmed it and Javadi who has a social media presence. Dr. Jay herself. Right.

So, is Dr. Jay going to post about... Dr. Justice? Ooh. Dr. Jay? That's something for Javadi?

“Kai, can we hear that jingle one more time, please?”

One more dangling thing. I don't know if it'll come back or not. But of all of the patients who have fled the ED is a result of ice being there.

Right.

Have fled as well, just out of, you know, safety, basically.

But Mrs. Torres, who Samira is looking after, has like a blood clot in her leg that could be like a life-changing or life-threatening ailment. Well, like, what Samira says is like, it's not an issue if we take, you know, if you do it right now. Yeah.

Super easy to take care of. Yes. Because you're here. But I mean, that calf looked crazy. It looked really bad.

Yeah. And if three hours from now, Ms. Torres gets like rolled in unconscious. Yeah. I would be such a bummer but ununderstandable like after effect of this kind of story line.

That leaves us with a cliffhanger, which is Emma and the Gulf douche. This dude comes in. They had to, the, the EMTs had to sedate him just to like, you know, get, get him in there. Uh, his, I don't know if I want to call him a friend. His, he's a bro.

“His shitty golfing buddy who doesn't know anything about his life is like this guy sucks.”

Uh, but we, his golf game certainly sucks. He did. Um, the wide-eyed like nod from Emma. So he's talking about what he shot today. Yeah.

Yeah. Uh, but I'll be back in a couple hours to, uh, to check him and him. But maybe he won't. Is this guy recognizable to you? Oh, is he recognizable to you?

Oh, not as an actor. I just mean, you know, just in the world of male friendship. Oh, I know so many of these guys. Oh, yeah. Tell me more.

I mean, you already alluded to the idea that like,

you spend an incredible amount of time participating in hobbies with people and some of them.

It's like, hey, we know nothing about each other. I know that you like, you play tennis, you can do pick up basketball, right? Yeah. So you do like sportsman like activities, which you know, you might not know anything about. But if they wound up in the ED.

From when I would. You would be like, I'll figure out who their family is. Yes. And I'll wait here with them until their family arrives or something like that. You're not like strolling out of the room.

I'll be back in a couple hours. Maybe. So that's different. That's different. But what I expect them to.

“I don't, I think I would be surprised if they did really.”

Yeah, I mean, look, there's levels. There's the people who you're like actual friends with or friendly with as a different thing. But then there's just people who I see you for an hour or two every week. And we have no real relationship. But you're going to come and maybe, you know,

Bob out for a little bit and come back in a few hours. Honestly, that's more than I would expect of a golf throw in these circumstances. Okay. Um, tough. See, I mean, like, I, I thought you were had had a like stronger community inside of your.

Oh, circular killer activities. Show their circles. There's the strong community. And then we're going outward. These don't seem like the best of friends.

Okay. If you had like a peripheral. Yeah. Okay.

This is a third circle at minimum friend.

But I, I, I know that that might be true. Well, I don't know. I don't know, but I don't understand your tennis world. I'm trying to. I feel like I understand your pickup basketball.

Do you? No. But like better. But like if you're booking like if you're on a golf course with someone. Yeah.

“It doesn't that feel like someone you know you're in, you, you have to like book the time on the course together, right?”

You do. And like you're in the cart to, like, it just feels like. And these aren't like two, two sums who got a group together in a cart. Like, right. These are people who actually go off together in a regular basis.

Work together or like our, you know, business associates or something like that. The fact that he's like a dush and doesn't give a shit about him. Yeah. No one can think about him. I believe.

But I just think golfing lens itself to a bit more emotional intimacy inside of that space. Okay. Probably very surprised. But Emma's in a stranglehold as the episode concludes. I mean, a full on chokehold.

Yeah. I fully believe that this kind of thing probably does happen sometime to time. It felt quite dramatic in a way, like a little overly dramatic. Oftentimes the pit cliffhangers are. They are.

But I thought this one. I maybe it's just because there's like imminent physical violence. It's like it's very scary. What is happening to Emma. Absolutely.

I'm terrified about it. Yeah. It's like I really need to see the like what happens in the next episode immediately. Right. So from that perspective, effective.

But it's also just like, maybe it's just, it's at the end of a long pit day. And it's like, now people are in fucking chokeholds out here. Like, what is happening? It's six o'clock. Maybe it's six o'clock.

I do want to talk quickly about Roxy. Because she does pass in this episode as we talked about. Yeah. I like that we don't know if her older son ever got the chance to say goodbye. If you wanted to, I kind of like that that's hanging in the air.

Yeah. I also want to call out Joe. Jake Cring Schrifles did a freelance piece for us at the ringer dot com called the pit as told by its patients. Oh, cool.

In which she interviewed a bunch of our like background actors that we've been praising throughout the season. These patients who've been coming through for, you know, single or three or four episode. Or sometimes in particular, you know, Brittany Allen, who plays Roxy. Yeah. I like her interview a lot. She was talking about, I mean, for one, just the exhaustive.

And I mean, that in multiple senses, level of research that she did to kind of get in the head of somebody who would be dealing with this much pain.

There's so much going on. There's so many people buzzing around all the time. Right. Yeah. To some of these actors who are coming in as on guest starring roles, like overwhelming in it of itself.

“And so there's something kind of, I think, transportive based on these interviews about parachuting in and trying to, like,”

tap into this really deep emotional place. And there is so much happening around you that it feels as if you've been, you know, wielding to an E.D. Shabana Aziz, who plays Victoria Javadi, like, the look she gives Robby. The silent look she gives Robby inside of that, you know, when he goes over. Put his hand on on Roxy's husband's shoulder and then, like, just like, you know, the glisten of the tear in her eyes.

She's not full on crying. There's she looks so young and just, you know, and Robby sort of watching in real time. Someone lose another layer of their innocence. You know, inside of an already tough day for Victoria because she already, like, you know, had this oversight happiness of, like, that. And so it's just like, everyone's having a tough day, man.

This is where the joy sucks. It's not good.

But you're right that the glistening work across the board has just been incredible this season.

No, a while, too. No, he's the king, a glisten. It's every conversation he has. He's on the burn. But yeah, Javadi's been in a place for a couple of episodes.

Now, I think, I think she's done it really wonderful. Yeah, I think I'll see what I mentioned. I have one good thing, one bad thing. We talked about the Zylazine wound that Kiki has across the street. And it crosses.

Absolutely disgusting. Get early. Don't like it. I can most gnarly think for me, and this is a regular appearance on the pit, the rib spreader. Oh, yeah.

God, do I hate the rib spreader? I understand, is necessity. Right. But every time it comes out, I'm just like, oh, Jesus Christ. You're like, it's not supposed to go that way.

We're not supposed to stretch like that.

“You know, if I really want to dig deep, I think this is part of why.”

Sometimes, if I see people with, like, very Intrusive gauges in their ears, I have, like, a visceral reaction to it. But it's like, Rob is casting dispersion of the furry community. And now, also the piercing. Well, only if you're a basic furry.

But if you have gauges, just know that if they are certain size, I am, like, a little upset about the way they're your ears contorting. I don't like visible earholes. I don't like ribs being spread. I don't like any of that stuff.

Okay. What's your good? Let's go back to Javadi for a second. Okay.

Just an incredible moment from Robbie.

Javadi, why don't you glove up and show Dr. Shamsi that you belong in the eat. Very good. You fist pump from me on the couch. Let's fucking go. Work, work, dad showing up.

Man, you're massaging of the heart. Get that thing pumping again. I mean, Javadi shows up. And we talked earlier about, you know, Ogilvie freezing in those moments where he is kind of, like,

I mean, learning human empathy for the first time in the season. What is this? What is this? Why is this so much? It's hard for three sizes in this hour.

Yeah. But Javadi is the one who picks up all the slack in that conversation. We'll go via doing a give appropriate credit owns the fact that this was his problem to begin with. But it's Javadi who's like helping to save the day.

“And like, fucking Dr. Shamsi, who's like, was this you?”

Come on. Come on. How unusual to put it mildly. Good up to the pit. I'd rather enjoy it.

A lot. A lot. And only going to be more. I'll be very curious to see how people respond to the ice storyline. Hmm.

But I enjoyed it. I mean, I did enjoy it. But I thought it was well done. We back for the final hour of the shift. We will see a email us Dr. [email protected].

If you have a different theory as to who goes home first.

Yeah. From the shift, if Princess is already gone, what is she doing with her money? Uh, any other prompts you want to give her listeners? In theory, McKay's supposed to be getting ready for a date soon. Nine o'clock.

I feel like she said nine o'clock. It is a nine o'clock date. But like she's got to get home. Yeah. I get cleaned up.

She's who knows what's going on with her kid today. Oh, you think that you think that hoody is not a date hoody? I mean, maybe it is. Okay. I'm not going to make presumptions.

Clearly it worked for him in the first place. He was on board. He loved it. Yeah, maybe you just show up. Yeah, you just show up with in the hoody.

Charter three hours just straight to the date. Exactly. Who's last to leave? I mean, it's probably Robby. Yeah.

He's not getting on that motorcycle. I would be surprised at this point. Thank you to Kai Grady. Thank you to everyone else here in the Sick War Studios who helped us here today. We will be back with love story.

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