‘Animal House’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan

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“With Chris Ryan, we watch in these days CR.”

What does Bay? I can just hasn't taken for me. One of the best shows of the year. Really? Yeah.

And then I'm riding you for you out to the finish. Me too. Yeah. Thank you. Have I done my room impression for you yet?

No. Yeah. Better than I thought it was going to be. Nice job. Craig's here as well.

We're joined by a special guest, Murphy.

It's a three-million-pod.

Hey, Murphy. I've been waiting for this one for a long time. Yeah. One of the most influential comedies ever. The last one we're doing for Netflix is a joke month.

It is still on Netflix, Animal House is next. Just a few hours. With the smart mouse on the screen, you have everything in the book. It's a joke.

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[Music] See our heart to explain what this movie meant in the 80s. We just didn't have a lot of comedies. See only comedy about college. Probably had six, seven, eight.

We watched over and over again. The lines. It reached the point. The famous lines from this movie. And then there's like a whole separate subsection of lines from this movie that you could just do short hand with people.

And I think this comedy had as big of an influence as any comedy that has come out in the last 50 years. Animal House. Almost like it's got like a crater where it landed. And it like starts all these different like micro genres. It kick starts these careers.

“Basically watches like three different filmmakers into the world with right men,”

Raimus and Lansing already worked obviously. But like it's it's important. It's almost dwarfs. It's like entertainment sometimes. But I still really like enjoy having it on a lot.

What was the movie you said? It's like putting on an old sweatshirt. Ghostbusters. Yeah. I feel that way about animal house.

Yeah. I've just seen it so many times. I know every section of it. I've got a blue sheet whose right here actually one of my favorites of all time. You know what I wanted to ask you about was what.

What kind of relationship you had to nationally improve in as like an institution outside of just the huge movies and this. Only new of from animal house. Okay. From all the people that kind of went on and then from reading the books about it. You know, when when she started reading the like even the Bob Woodward book about the blue sheet.

Yeah. And then in a lab book that came out in '85, just in general, I had no idea until I started reading how impactful it was. I didn't know as a kid. It's just kind of fascinating because, you know, it's not dissimilar from a lot of upstart media stories that you read about from the last 20 years. Like it's not that much different than vice in some ways or something where it starts out as this like small time production house.

You know, like magazine based out of Harvard and then branches out into all these different things and takes advantage of corporations looking for basically for lack of a better term content at that.

Yeah. It's like Grantland. Just these little underdogs. Yeah. Oh, no.

We work for you. It's a before after for comedy movies. I just felt like blazing saddles was what 74 75 range. This movie comes out and it leads to two different areas because you have the rambunctious comedy era, right. That's animal house meatballs, catishack, blues brothers, airplane stripes, like big stars, big set pieces just felt like it was for everybody who was 20 and older in the 70s. And then people like us who were growing up after a jumping in.

But it also ushered the rotten comedy era sex comedy, which which then porches really capitalized down. But we've talked about that in the page of the nerds. Yeah. Zapped, class, losing it. This was like a whole cottage industry.

So it's fun to separate industries of comedy. It also pretty much invents the modern college comedy. Yeah. Which maybe doesn't even really like take flight until the 90s. Like I grew up with kicking screaming.

Yeah. Everybody wants some is later, but PCU was a big one for me. Like that is a really reliable subgenre of comedy.

I feel like it was the first college movie.

Where it was like, is this what it's like to go to college? Yeah. Did you think that? Kind of. Yeah. I was on a text thread last thing with two of my best friends from high school went to Colgate.

Okay. And they were in a frat and Colgate with two of my other friends who became good friends. And we were just texting about this movie and how much like they had seen animal house for years. And they when they went in a college in the late 80s. It was like I want to be in a frat. You're just making the animal house jokes as you're in the frat.

Yeah. And that's just kind of how the 80s went. I have some takes on this later. But this movie was like Sunday I'll go to college and I'll be like the animal house guy. Yeah.

It's hard to explain.

“That's how I felt about high school with Ferris Bueller where I was just like I'm going to go to high school.”

I'm going to have my own room. You know, which I did. I was only child. But like I'm going to have like this universe within my room. And I like these are going to be my friends.

But one day like I'm just going to have like the coolest day ever like in high school. When I'm like cutting class. Craig, you you're later than us.

There's a million college movies that are out by then.

Right. Less than you think though. It's mostly high school more than college. Yeah. You're like old school and it's usually like joke.

That's like neighbors. But those are more like plays on adults interacting with college. Yeah. Less than college kids. Yeah.

It's something themselves. So when you watch this movie. First of all, the movie takes place in 1962. Yeah. What does that feel like a Cajillion years ago?

“Crucial kind of thing that they did, which was made a movie about when I think honestly”

the writers were like, this is when America had its innocence is like four Kennedy. Kennedy's assassination. It was a movie and the world watergate. It was very, very, very, very like aggressive modern sensibility of like ranch.

Yeah.

And so they like they infuse it basically with like late 70s debauchery.

But it's about like when everything was still innocent. So they catch lightning in the bottle when this movie comes out. They film it in late 77. It comes out summer of 78. SNL is on it.

SNL is the biggest that's ever going to be because this movie comes out. It makes pollution even bigger star. You have all this national and poone stuff happening where all these people is like this comedy factory. And now they're all going out getting hired by Hollywood.

You have the 70s comedy movement in general, which is happening on two separate coasts. Right? And this is like the Letterman side felt Jay Leno. All these people are in LA too.

And then you have young people pushing against old people, which is a thing that's happening all through the 70s. And finally, trickles in the comedy with center alive and some other stuff. And just kind of people lampooning people older than them, pushing the envelope, trying to be ranchy, trying to offend people.

There's one more thing. Let's go. You're starting to get late 50s and early 60s nostalgia. Because of a mayor of happiness. So it's people who are probably in their late 30s or early 40s.

Thinking about when they were kids and the music that was on in the way people dressed in the different archetypes of people that were around. Why can't that come back? Well, does. I mean, we just do it for the 90s now, or we do it for the early 60s.

But are we doing it correctly for the late 90s? If you're like, we should be in the nostalgic for pre-social media. And what life is like. Yeah, I think that's due soon. Like, we're kind of like, there is like a kind of early 2000s.

Like, you know, like that arrow, like nostalgia going on. And we'll probably have a Craig. You're coming back. I mean, people are wearing corded headphones again, because it's cool. Cool and nostalgic.

I never started. I never stopped. You never stopped. But you know, people. But you were like, Ben said that everybody likes the strokes now and stuff.

Like, that that was his age. That's, that's another sign of that kind of thing. People are dressing like they're running into cycles. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you could see a little bit with the with the JFK Carolyn,

but set to with the early 90s. People go on backwards, but it seems like music. There's a huge nostalgia movement now for that early 2000s and stuff that we loved. Yep. The comedy is the other one.

Mainly because we're not making comedies the same way we have, which we've talked about a million times.

But that whole, that whole appetite generation run. And then the late 90s stuff, I feel like is as big as ever. So many running lines from this movie. Mm-hmm.

“And I think there's like levels of this, right?”

These are lines that just have become part of like the lexicon. We're in like, in my everyday life from college on. Like, when when a flounder comes in, he's like, "You guys playing cards?" That was something we would just say. And you knew somebody was doing a flounder.

Um, Major League Yabos. We call boobs Yabos a college because this movie. I had that with what's aged the best. And that foot is me. That was another one.

You would just do it. Um, thank you sir, ma'am, another. The toga. Toga, like any time, like, should we have party Friday night?

Yeah, like toga. Um, my parents used to make double secret probation jokes. That was, that was, this movie probably created that. Yeah, I think so. Yeah.

But there was stealth ones too, like. We don't, we don't, we don't owe to Caesar. He loves us. You can throw that one out. Um, Otis my man when we had Otis Nixon on the Red Sox.

There was like a whole bunch of Otis my man jokes because every new animal house. There's one that I actually from that the dexter scene that I really like. Yes.

“What theater writer, I think says you girls come here often.”

These great, this will be by the way. Yeah. You mind if we dance with the dates. Fat drunk and stupid is the way to go through life, sir. Is was the one that became the biggest one along with,

was it over when the Germans bomb her arbor? Yeah. It's a, he's on a roll, keep him going. Um, neither my or dad became another famous one. And then, um, then the remain come.

All is well. But I mean, I just listed that's 12 lines. Yeah. And they really did become part of the way people talk. It's hard to explain.

There's also, um, I think I was watching the, uh, Chandler Lovak movie remits a couple of weeks ago. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's like 20 year old.

It's basically, it's basically animal house.

You know what I mean? Like the idea of like taking a really good formative setting in someone's life and doing it more and like a vignette style and having a lot of gags within gags within gags. Yeah.

“And I think that there's a way that this is like.”

This movie feels like magazine articles in a way or it feels like you're engaging through a magazine. It doesn't feel like this one. The next influences the next scene necessarily. And that is like kind of like Kentucky fried movie. It's kind of like SNL and Lemings and the other things that they were doing around.

It's like money Python. It's very much like out of sketch and out of magazine rating. Yeah. And it's funny that all these people kind of indirectly or directly do each other from the 70s. These comedy people and it didn't matter. Like they know each other from second city.

Groundlings, Lemings, SNL. Um, they went to college together at Harvard. Um, and they were all kind of interconnected like in this movie. Landists didn't know in these guys. John Landists. This is first big movie. How'd Ramists? This is first big credit.

And he knew, I think he was the one that knew blue she from second city.

So he was like, we got to have blue she's blue to. Ivan Reitman's first big movie ever. Another one. He might be taking the producer lead for us. Right man. Yeah.

It says like at least his six or six. I would have rock hymer's number one, bro. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. Bro, crammers. Probably one. Um, blue she's first mainstream movie. We'll talk about him a second. Kevin Bacon and Karen Allen. Mm-hmm. Karen Allen about to go on an adjusted.

She got to be in Raiders. Yeah. Media or a cries for her. Tim Matheson, Bruce McGill, Tom Hulse. Yep.

Bruce McGill like just became a different human being like 20 years later. Yeah. He became like like the legendary Middle Age character actor. What that's work off your faces. You would have no idea he was the day in this. I have a lot of Tim Matheson thoughts later.

And then Steven first is flounder. And then Maggie from Caddy Shack. I can't wait to talk about later. Is that the 13 year old? Yeah.

And then randomly. Just three Donald Southern scenes for no real reason. Yeah, and it sounds like they basically needed him to get the movie. Kind of head to uh. Yeah.

It's like Matthew.

“Well, we're Donald Southern is like, I'll do it. That's what gets it over the home.”

Trying to think of the equivalent out of that. Which would be like if. I don't know. You just got like Ryan Reynolds or somebody. Probably would need to make this. I mean, I don't know if they're there.

No, but it's somebody at that level. Yeah. It was famous enough that it was a big deal. He was in the movie. All right.

So blue she only received 35,000 paid a bonus after it became a hit. They created the character as a cross between Harpo Marks and the cookie monster. I don't know the Harpo, but I don't remember Harpo Marks' work.

Do you never did Mark's brothers?

No. No. Was he like the crazy boy? I always like associated a lot of this comedy stuff. It's just like a lot of the like, yeah.

That kind of stuff. He exaggerated because he was doing comedy on stage forever. And you had to do a lot of like dramatic. Did you ever see anybody who ended up becoming famous in a ground things that are lemmings or anything like that?

Second city. In New York, but back in the day, I saw a human giant, which is Aziz, I'm sorry, in Paul's group. Yeah. So as I was dating a girl, moved to Chicago and went to Second City.

And Horatio Sands really was on the cast. And he had to made us know yet, but was just clearly really funny. Right. And it was like, and then when he went to his house, I was like, That was the guy we saw in Chicago.

And then the other one, a little different. But when the first house worker for Jimmy Show, he used to have Zach Alphanakis

He had this fake character. We all loved him. We thought he was like a genius. And he would come on. I think he used to play his brother Seth.

He had this fake brother. Yeah.

And but we would always like pitch stuff.

Like we got to get this and Zach. But you know, he wasn't famous at all. And then he became Zach Alphan. You know what? And my favorite bits of reading about.

And what house was? Yeah. Was reading about land is going on Carson. I think was Atlantis who went on Carson. And he did like a movie called Schlok.

But Carson liked it. And like just was like, I'm going to have this guy on the. And he does like a great performance on Carson. Really? Yeah.

But like the idea that you could go on Letterman or go on Carson. And nobody knew who you were. But if he liked you and he had you on three times, people were like, that's a guy now. You know, like.

“That's what I try to do with my podcast, Craig.”

Yeah. Yeah. That's like a. People bless. I think I'm a people blessing.

I feel like the modern version of like seeing her issues. Saying student, probably something like that is now. It's like being a fan of somebody's comedy YouTube channel. Yeah. And then like three years later, they're in a movie or on.

That's an. I remember Monica who's on SNL. Yeah. She's a slow ass. Yeah.

I remember Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney. We used to love their YouTube channel. Good neighbor stuff. Yeah. And they like four years later there on SNL.

We're like, holy shit. Yeah. That is the equivalent. So 78. Yeah.

Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Yeah. Um. He pulls off.

We talked about this during the Blues Brothers podcast. He pulls off one of the great trifectas ever in the history Hollywood.

“He's on SNL, which is the most important comedy show.”

And probably the most influential TV show.

He's in this movie, which finishes third for the year.

He's the biggest comedy movie ever. And then releases the Blues Brothers album. Yeah. And that goes to number one. And he has all that going at the same time in the winter of.

Nineteen 78. And uh. Numbers. What happens when this happens? I don't know what what's going on here, Murphy.

You want to get down? Yeah. You like something. This is what happens when you work with your mouth. Yeah.

Stop professional, let him out. I don't know. I don't know. He'll lie over there. [laughter]

So blueshade. Um. He flew too close to the sun. So to speak. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He had lying close to the sun. People think it's ignorance.

It actually was bullshit. He had already was prone to maybe having some. Some issues. Yeah. And then this happens.

And he becomes as white-hot famous as anyone we've ever had. This is it. This is like he becomes too famous to be on SNL. He gets every single comedy. You could possibly be offered to you.

And he's touring with a band in front of sold out crowds. Yeah. One of my favorite things is he has to do like he does three days a week on animal house. He's flying a organ to animal. And all of them like all these like bits and jokes he's thinking of.

And then they would watch SNL on Saturday night. And those things that he was joking about on like Tuesday would be on the show on Saturday. But that was another he was allegedly clean when he was doing this movie. And he moved there with his wife. And he's living in some house.

He's not living with the cast. Trying to stay clean. And thanksgiving. Yeah. And he's like and then I think he went off the rails right after.

Yeah. That was that. There's been a lot of stuff for it in about this. But nobody really. Farley's the only one like blue sheet that I can think of.

Like that you could just physical presence. The proud falls, the facial expressions, the comedy. Like the moment you see him you're just like I'm just laughing. I'm just laughing already has done anything.

And the same kind of thing that Farley everybody always is to say about Farley was that they would just do anything for a laugh.

Yeah. I wonder who else would you say Danny McBride, even though it wasn't physical like that, it's a little like that or no. Like where you just see him and you're like he can say anything in your laugh. The physical side is maybe not as much there with him. I don't Robin Williams.

I feel like had a little bit of that. Yeah. But that was as much like I'm just going to do 15 minute bits like off of what one thing that you say. This was like I'll jump through a play class window. And didn't care if I'm that the Farley story about Chip and Dale.

Samler didn't want him to do it because he's like people are just going to laugh at you. Yeah. Yeah. Farley was like I don't care. There's something it's such a small group of people that have had this.

And it happens with athletes too. If you just go to a game or a comedy event or whatever, and you sit down and somebody comes on the stage or the court wherever. And your eyes just go to them.

“That's what blue everyone said that's what blue shit had.”

Yeah. Like when he's the years before us now, every time he came on stage, he just owned the stage. And it's also like it has an almost beetles like concentration of like it was just a few years. Yeah. It was not like this 20 year career. It was like it was basically six years, right?

Yeah. It had an interesting effect on SNL because it made animal house made the show bigger. The fourth season of SNL, which starts in 78, the 78 79 season. The audience increased to the point that the warrant Michaels and the writers kind of resented it. Lauren called it the undeserved audience. It was like, we were doing this.

Where were you guys before? Now you're just here because animal house. What's also like the show that they were like hipsters, essentially.

“And now all of a sudden like all the squares were like, I watched this, you know?”

Yeah. And there's a lot a lot of the research from this was once animal house happens. All of these guys now can get jobs. Everyone's looking for the next pollution animal house. Everyone's looking for the next person or write that. So, National PJ or work had this whole thing about a killed national lampoon immediately. Yeah.

Is everyone who wrote for it was now being approached. Like how I get a script going. Yeah. And it just really like demolished. Basically, this counter culture thing they became the culture.

Yeah. Although, by the time PJ or work is running national lampoon, like it's probably like its sensibility is more conservative than you would be. You'd be surprised to find out like how conservative like their their world view was. I think.

I was never a big national lampoon guy.

I always probably like mad magazine where is that is. But spy was the first one where I was like finally a magazine. Yeah, yeah, you know. Have other view read that national lampoon like a yearbook apparently. I looked at like some of the pages just online for this.

But it's a kind of ingenious. I'm sure other people had done it beforehand. But it's basically. Boons yearbook. Yeah.

With like notes scrolled.

“And then there's some of the characters.”

Some of the characters from the mirror in it. Yeah. Yeah. There's a really good national lampoon documentary that was made kind of. In the early days of when we were we were good at documentaries.

I'm going to say it's like late 2000s or late 2010s. I thought they did a good job. They interviewed a lot of people. Is it called drunk stone brilliant dead 2015. Yeah.

Yeah. That documentary is good. So this was based on Ramus' experience. Ramus' experience at Washington University. Miller, Chris Miller's experience at Dartmouth.

And then Ivan Raymond at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario. Not on my radar. That was in one of your city schools. And then Doug Kenny who was, you know, one of the writers. Pretty legendary lampoon guy died in Hawaii with Chevy Chase.

Chevy Chase and him were on vacation. He was a fellow fellow cliff on clear what happened. Big mystery. You know you're not. But Doug Kenny things are really interesting.

I know about this. Big rabbit hole. He was involved in Caddy Shack. Right. A lot of cocaine.

Yes. And obviously in all kinds of ways. And a death that they still don't know what happened. And some people wonder if he killed himself or did in. Right.

But anyway, he graduated from Harvard. He was his flat experience was closer to the Omega side. And the three characters from the yearbook you mentioned were Larry Crowger. Mandy Peppridge, Vernon Wormer. Oh, so it's probably Larry's yearbook done, I guess.

Yeah. Yeah. But you mentioned this earlier. They picked 62 because they thought that was the year before JFK. The year before Vietnam gets going kind of the last innocent year in America.

Yeah. It's like, but it's like almost like right around then.

“Because I remember my earliest memories of like the car radio.”

Are my parents listening to like big chill style oldies. Right. So for them, this is like kind of almost like that they're freezing that time in amber. And they're starting to make money off of happy days and stuff. So the original script and there was a lot more vomiting.

There was a lot of crazy shit. They did like nine drafts.

And then finally got Greenland at three million bucks.

And the National Amput Guy Maddy Simmons. No relation said script. So little movie will make a couple bucks. Landah said he thought it was the funniest script he'd ever read. Really offensive. He said there was a great deal of projectile vomiting and rape and all of these things.

Yeah. I don't even know what that meant for a comedy. But they get blue sheet in there off. $3 million budget made $141.5 million. Feels like probably more since then.

This is just well, also $140 million of $3 million is an insane profit. Craig, they did it made $120. Yeah. They did the re-release a year later in 79 made another $21 million. Just because blue sheet was more famous.

Let me ask you this. Did you watch this? What? Did you watch this after you had seen Kathy Shack?

I don't remember when I first saw this.

Yes. I saw Kathy Shack in the theater. I don't think my parents let me see this in the theater. Right. So I probably saw it after Kathy Shack.

But I love blue sheet. So I probably figured out a way to see this at some point.

I don't remember when I saw it. Because I don't want to do remember. It's interesting to think about this kicking it off. But a lot of people, most people who were listening to this podcast probably saw it in and around. Maybe even after they saw a revenge of the nerds or maybe even after they saw porkies or

maybe even after they saw like PCU and days to confused.

I mean, you might have an experience where it's always sitting there on the shelf.

I remember really being drawn to the cartoon poster. Yeah. And like that style of kind of caricature. I was just like, what is this? Well, the part I don't remember from the 80s is how we saw the unedited version.

Because we didn't really have the VHS stuff until like 83, 84 range. So it was probably edited for a couple of years there on the different channels. And then became unedited again. And it was definitely a sleepover movie.

“We're like, I think everybody had a copy of it.”

But if you remember when I was like, I must have been like 8 or 9 maybe or something. And it was just like, we're going to watch Animal House tonight. My old brother got it, you know? Yeah. Top 11 movies in 1978, Craig.

Greece. Superman. Animal House. It's our top three. Wow.

Every which way but loose. Is that a rewatchable? Yeah. It is for me. Say the word.

Clintie's put it in a ragintang and a truck. Heaven can wait. Hooper. If we do August one for us month, it should be every which way but loose. Lincoln.

What else? There's so many one for us is. Just to a seventh, revenge of the pink Panther, the deer hunter, Halloween and foul play. Dear. Top 11, brain of the rewatchable.

“Oh, that's definitely not one for us month.”

No. No. That just came out. That came out on steel book. Yeah.

Yeah. Ebert. Four stars. Fucking loved this movie. It's anarchic, messy, filled with energy.

It assaults us. Part of the movie's impact comes from his sheer level of manic energy.

It's better made than we might at first realize.

It takes skill to create the sort of common pitch. Probably caught. Ebert at the right time of his life, too. Yeah. I wonder if 1998 Roger Ebert loves it as much.

He's coming in. He still has a little bit of like. Russ Meyer vapeers coming out. No question. But I do imagine if you saw this in 78, it would feel like punk rock.

It would feel like he describes it as anarchic. Yeah.

“Let's talk about it when we do rewatchable scenes.”

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Restrictions by c terms of fan.com slash predict slash bonus. Dash offer dash terms. So Murphy's gone. We've got to blew my day. Yeah, just that he did not a bullishy guy.

Most of you watchable scene. Really good entrances for Bluto water and D day in the beginning. Yeah. I like that good entrance. See, Bluto is just.

I can't wait to talk about Matt this and I really like with this movie. The pledge of crude sequence when they're naming everybody. Your weasel. Your bath ball. You're going to be pinto.

Why pinto? Um, Louis Louis. I like to pollute. She just probably looks. I don't know if he was really drunk for that scene or the movie.

They're like hammered. Yeah. And then we go to the other frat for the thank you. Sir ma have another. All right.

So there's a two. Flounder kills a horse followed by the. The demitting holy shit. The cafeteria scene. Yeah.

The food fight. The food. Balushi in the food line.

First he's eating out of the garbage.

Basically. Yeah. And then he goes through the food line. It's. That's just like also a six minute foster keton scene.

Like this. It's silent for the most part until he goes to everybody goes and sits down with the hippie kids.

I like what the donut falls off the tray.

He's just keeps going. Yeah. Scrabbing stuff. Putting things that top eats the jello. And then he makes the horse sound of that guy.

Yep. And then does the omnisit.

“Which I think for me at age 10 or 11 was quite a comedy.”

Yeah. So funny thing about time. Um, entirely improvised in the cafeteria. And then they just kind of went. The omnisit thing was apparently improvised too.

They didn't know that was coming. Yeah. Um. Just a home run. But it's up there for me.

It might be my most ruined. But we do have the ladder scene. Check. Guess it's probably a little problematic these days. Yeah.

But it's a little bit of a voyeur thing. I mean, but that didn't.

Basically is it invents revenge on the nerds and pork.

Yeah. Yeah. But turn to the camera. I brought race. Yeah.

All timer. The ladder falling backwards is just fucking funny. It just goes back. Yeah. I had it.

So this seven minutes of blue. She's just taking over the movie. I almost wonder is this a new category? The Victor Wembanyama word from when somebody just completely annihilates four minutes of a movie.

There is no defense for this. Yeah. It's like what's happening. He just scored 12 points in two minutes. Black five shots.

Um, but that was just a total Wemby. Does that bullshit thing? It's still funny for your generation, right? Yeah. Okay.

What the Germans bombed pro harboursing. Everything militia, but especially the cafeteria. I just thought that's it's got to be timeless comedy for whoever I'll do. Yeah.

“I think I think some people might find it like a little it's juvenile humor that like hasn't aged”

in like a clever way. But I still think it's really funny. Okay. The grocery store scene is underrated. I really like the grocery store scene.

Flander just catching 15 things. Also like you cumbers bigger. The flirting. There's something about those mid seventies horny housewives that don't have in these movies like in slap shot or this movie.

Yeah. They really did it for me. Yeah. Togo party. I like what an otter takes their coats and throws them on the ground.

There's so many good little like just blinking you miss it visual psych eggs in this movie like that. The tar guy gets demolished. We get shout. This is the kick cut he pursued happens word for needle drop.

I think this is my most rechargeable scene because I really love the shout performance. I love how it cuts back and forth with the audience. I like little bit louder now. Like little bit louder. Oh my god.

Yeah. It's so good that wedding crushers was like let's just do that again. Yeah. They did the homage. The road trip to the bar to see you at a stay.

Yep. Yeah. Where am I reading the grades? Yeah. Zero point two.

Fat drunken stupid. That guy has an amazing voice. And he had like almost like it seemed like a glass eye or something. Yeah. He's on burner.

But I know he didn't.

But he had a way of like he just always seemed like he was about to say something evil.

Just like the way he says double secret probation. So good. Yeah. If you're a character actor in the 70s, you just are like what I do is wear suit and I do the same part in every movie.

Yeah. So I just show up. I just nailed it.

“The big bluetooth speech, which I think is the most famous scene for this movie because it”

lived on and sports. Yeah. And jumbo trance for 20 years after. It's kind of the first hold on let him cook. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

their Hitler youth under aided line. Every part of that bullshit thing is great. The parade scenes fun. The parade scene is like a precursor. It's a mess. Blues Brothers. Yeah. It's like, we don't really know what to do here. Let's have a giant set piece. Blue she just climbs on top of the building for no reason. I could have I could have fixed it though, but that's in a category coming up. Okay. Great. And then the closing credits, which I think this movie probably

invented. Well, it's certainly apex mountain for Z1 Neo title cards. Yeah, what nobody did this before this movie. No idea. And I'm like, everybody's ripped it off since there's so many good ones. The Marmalar had became a rude Nixon White House aide. It was raked in prison in 1974. Otter became a god of colleges to Beverly Hills. Senator Mrs. John Potarsky. Yeah. Just like fucking home runs all over. I like that day's whereabouts were announced. Yeah. What do you have for

us rewatchable? The most rewatchable scene for me is the Toga Party with shout. Yeah. I agree. That's just the most fun to watch. What's the most 1978/1963 thing about this movie? I think we have to go in 1978. Well, I just had the prominence of National Improvement as a comedy brand. It's like an umbrella that like was doing all this different stuff and was launching all these careers.

are afraid you might get schizophrenia. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I tried it. I had that. And then Pinto's girl revealing that she's 13 is just insane. Yes. It was insane in 1978. It's out of when it's fucking crazy. Go 16 or 17. Yeah. Maybe it's still borderline insane. Yeah. 13. Well, she's like, I'm 13 and he still goes 40s just like, I guess I have to know what to do anything. But he's

asked he asked to get me, oh, he just asked to get married to her first. Right. And she's like, hey,

“mom and dad, this is the guy that molested me. Yeah. I think doing in 1978, obviously nobody in the room”

or no notes or edits were like, hey, make her older 13's crazy. Yes. The one, the one, when I have died award, I would have killed myself after that girl said I was 13. Yeah. 13. Also, she, I mean, the real actress was probably like 20. I just, let's hope. I don't know if they thought 13 was funny, or I said, I don't know if she says she's 13. I can't even say it. Yeah. It's, it is the craziest thing in this movie. Because old school basically does old school which ripped off multiple parts

of this movie. Yes. But they do this. It was almost remade. Yeah. But they do the same thing with with Duke Wilson, when he's with the last year. Yeah. And it turns out she's in high school.

It's crazy. I mean, this girl is lying topless in this movie. And then an hour later,

it's just, it's just, it's just not scary. I don't ever understand it. Yeah. She was 20. Yeah. Yeah, actress. It's just, I heard that you nailed that.

“Oh, she looked like, she was at least in college. But I think they thought he's like,”

got a great scout side. But hey, you know, I sized her up. I think they thought 13 would get a big laugh. Yeah. Look, John Land is 1978. Well, Land has taken some big swings, man. Yeah. In terms of big swings, probably not as big as the Twilight Zone, no. No. The Floyd Gondoli, butter in my ass, and Lali pops in my mouth award for something I just enjoyed. I mean, I just like Louis Louis and shout. Those songs are undefeated. They still go really hard at

wedding. Still play shout at weddings. Oh, yeah. I think that was going to make my my category would have just been what's aged the best. I have not been to a wedding where shout is not playing. Okay. You may think you're better than shout, but every time you go to a wedding and shout plays, you're like, this is the thing that really set the wedding all. It is the single best moment of every wedding is shout. It's still plays live band DJ doesn't matter. Everybody loves

shout, getting on the floor. Yeah. Like, it is, it's the time when everybody's like, let's get fucked up. The question for, I was going to ask, though, is did the wedding thing happen after wedding crushers or were people doing that in the 80s after animal house after animals? Really. Every wedding I went to from the early 90s on there was shout. Yeah. And I assumed that was the case in the 80s too. Uh, I mean, the weddings that I have been to have all had shout, but pre wedding

crushers. Yeah. Oh, fuck yeah. Oh, no. Every single wedding is staple. Yeah. We're sorry. I just didn't know if like, everybody liked the song watching animal house, but that has nothing to do with the wedding. I didn't know if wedding crushers made it popular at weddings. No, shout was you it. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. It was a thing before. No, you'd go to a wedding even in the early 90s and it was like, can't wait for shout. Yeah. It's there. It's coming. And you knew the band was

going to play it. That, that thing is like, it's the undisputed champ. Yeah. It's like, who's the best quarterback about time? It's Tom Brady. Like, there's no argument. It's, it's chocolate ice cream. There's just like very few people were like, I don't like shout. I don't want to do that. Like, then why'd you come to the wedding? It's just like the most, it's a complete communal experience. Everybody knows the moves. It's the best. Yeah, because you, the fact that you have to let go

“down to the ground and then come back up and get happy again is the key to shout. Now, the question is”

have you ever done gator, where you jump on the floor and and shake it. I don't remember. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, shout, Michael Jordan and everyone's around. New song comes in and tries to be LeBron. And then we have an argument about it. It's like, man, it's still shit. My afloat gun do I. I like when a movie gets made because it wasn't going to get made until some random star from the time period agreed to be in it for two scenes. Yeah. And then they're like,

now we can make it. It's other ones here. Southern, he worked for two days. He was offered 25,000 dollars for the two days or two percent of the film's gross. He took the 25. And he took the

25. Because the movie was going to bomb. It's amazing. We've done 437 rewatchables at this point,

438. It's like that. It's amazing how many times the movies were like right on the fringe of not being made until they got random. Yeah. And Donald Southern, it's not like, it was famous, but even I said Ryan Reynolds before. He was an even as famous as Ryan Reynolds. It was, I think it's a different kind of fame. I mean, he's also like, it was a credibility still doing like three movies a year pretty much around. Yeah. I have to

in the opening credits. I love when it says at the end. And so and so as Jennings. Yeah. And Donald Southern as Jennings. It's great. Well, I have him in what's aged the best, too, because I'm convinced he's wearing just his same clothes from invasion of the butter, invasion of the body statures. It's the same outfit. He's wearing the same outfit that he wears for an hour of the movie. And he was probably filming the other movie. He showed up in a quarter or a suit and they were

“like doing, honestly, that's perfect. It's a little and he looks the same. He's got the same hair,”

the same mustache that's like he just got pulled out of it. So what does he do? He does the John Milton speech. He does the my novels of piece of shit seen and then he's in the wild. He's a two and a half scenes base. Yeah. The biggest one stage of best for this movie is Bluedo's speech became an incredibly impactful home game sports movie. Let's get the crowd going. They're in this era that I think is basically over now, but from late 90s,

I said like 98, 99 range through the 2000s. There was like five or six different movies where

they were played the scenes. They would do Rudy, they would do Hoosiers. And this one always brought

the house. I feel like 300. 300 is a good one. Gladiator and like what's another one that's kind of replaced this as like a, I do, but I don't feel like they do this anymore. Because people, they're in the time of such a play. They used to do three, like to have 300 playing when they would do this, they aren't in lineups. The Celtics would, they got to the point where they just wouldn't run the clip. They would just play a speech. They would, they would do the speech, but they

would interspersate with, you know, Celtics shit. Yeah. They would like do like the next level, recut of it. But animal house was a major one. And you would just see Blue. It was like nothing is over. Have you ever heard this at a game? I don't think so. Yeah. They don't do it anymore.

“Yeah. This was like a 10 year run. I have more, but what do you have for what's interesting about?”

The way that they depict the, what is essentially like Smith College, like the, the seven sister's schools. Yeah. The girl who dies in a kill and explosion. Fun and odd, who's like she was gonna make me a pot. We were engaged to be a gauge. But just the whole, that whole segment, it's not necessarily a rewatchable see, but it's so nailed on like that whole like women's college thing. Yeah. There's somebody working at the front of them saying, Blue, she just joined the

acoustic guitar. I feel like I've seen like a billion times and like it's still like, I think

of it every time I'd ever go to a party and somebody would be like, there's a guy in the corner playing Dave Matthews and you're just like, how funny would it be to smash the stage? It's the fucking wall and be like, sorry. I have a, I think Mathison is tremendous as I'm so good in this movie and it's like kind of looks like Craig by the way. That's really a compliment. I don't understand why Tim Mathison didn't become a bigger star. I had him coming up, but we could talk about it now. Like

he is actually the could have been Harrison Ford, because he was another guy up for Raiders and like he's a little like, I think he's like a Hollywood native like whole life like on Western TV shows when he's a little kid and stuff. Yeah. But I wondered did he get, it's in cast in one episode. I'll do one now where they try to get Chevy Chase for Otter and he ended up doing foul play. I wonder if he just got market corrected by Chevy Chase. We didn't

flex with Chevy Chase because in flat, she plays the guy who hires Chevy Chase because they look like each other. But it's funny to watch him be Chevy Chase's straight man and flesh, but just doing Chevy Chase in. I think Otter is so fucking funny in the screen and his speech at the trial. Yeah. Where he's like, if the fraternity system is on trial, then the entire system is on trial. I won't have you besmirched the United States of America. I didn't walk out singing the

stars make them better. I love how horny is, too. Like, he beats Fladder's girlfriend. Yeah. And he's like here. Come over here. It's just like clearly going to try to get Fladder's girlfriend

go up to his room. He's always trying to have sex with whoever he's at the room with. But he's like,

“there's something charming about him. I don't know. That's why the gynecologist thinks so funny at the end.”

Yeah. It's like, of course, terrible. I thought Matheson just killed it. Crazy college ratty kids. Yeah. Need a mile when they're all in the thing like that's also an over in the college with those kids. Yeah. Rhygaret and Matheson playing golf. I just wanted to try and hit the don't think about it as work. Think about it as something you enjoy. This is a small one. But at the beginning when Flander and Pinto go to the thing to meet the other people,

like the basically the first scene in the movie. Yeah. And he lets Pinto in and then slams the door on Flander. And it's like a great, like it actually seems like he hit some of the thing, but it's just like just immediately sets the tune. Flander goes over to Greg and starts talking

some more. I've already met these guys and he's like, great. You'll have plenty of talking about hand jobs with late text gloves. You think that's aged the best? Yeah, it's hilarious. Flander in Silent Rage, four years later, that is a one for us month. Silent Rage. Yeah. We're finally getting an updo in that. But Flander has checked or it's a sidekick in Silent Rage. That would be an amazing collection of films. It's just if we did, if we did Lincoln Silent Rage. Which

we tried to time with Netflix. It was like, hey, so I'm not sure how you're going to promote this

in the carousel, but it's one for us month. Togapardis did become a thing in the 80s. I never said

that tail end of it when I was in college. I don't think I ever went to work on it. You weren't in a friday. No. How's it? Were you? I was in a fraternity for two years and we did throw a Togapardis in college. Did you, like, you were a junior in senior or freshman in freshman sophomore? Why did you

“stop? And I just like honestly didn't like it. Okay. I don't know. Well, sounds like he got haste.”

Yeah. I think I'll do that. But it's just not for me. Yeah. We threw the Togapardis out of house senior. You're actually not in the frat. Was it fun? It's great. It's the best. Yeah. The Togapardis thing became a big thing for about, I would say, 10 years. Never, never got it. It's also like the easiest

dress up party you can go to. Like, everyone just wears a bedsheet. It's the easiest thing in the world.

You gotta wear like shorts underneath the bedsheet though. Not me. Not otter. And then this is my high school buddy Jim Graydy and went to Colgate and I think was president of his flat. He texted this yesterday. Little known secret. I wanted to be Rush chair at Sigma Sigma Kai just so I could say hi. Jim Graydy, Rush chairman, damn glad to beat you. Not joking. Apparently really did that. Oh my god. Yeah. This is a great what's

aged the best. So they had this bit in the original script, but they didn't film it with the JFK float and they had the four people dressed like Jackie or Nassus on the day he got assessed. Oh yeah. But they had this, they were going to have a car go through his head and it was going to be in the exit room spot of when he got assessed. And then the land is just like, okay, we got to cut this.

“It's too offensive. So that's what he was like. We can't do that. But what if she was 13?”

Right. Some of the 13 was fine. If they had had the car zoom through his head and the exit wound, I think that would have aged pretty funnily in my opinion. Yeah. It's just like holy shit. They were really going for it. They beat 78. But they decided not to do it. And then you mentioned the other what's aged the best. Louis Louis. Shemalama ding dong. Shout. Music's great. I'd one last aged the best. It's Sarah Holcomb's IMDB. Okay.

Sarah Holcomb is correct. The young Sarah Holcomb is the yeah, who ends up being Maggie and Kattishak. Oh, thanks for nothing. She's in four movies. And then apparently sadly had some issues in

is that of the industry. Her first movie ever is Animal House. And her last movie is Kattishak.

Her second last movie is some movie called Happy Birthday Gemini. Okay. And then she makes one other

“movie. And she's the star of Walk Proud. If you don't walk Proud is, I'll just read you what”

it's about. Robbie Benson plays Amelia Mendez, a young Chicano Chicano gang member in Los Angeles, who begins to question his gang life when he meets and starts to fall for a white girl who encourages him to try and leave. Robbie sang the theme song Adios yesterday. No. He was a blue ad Caucasian real life, but made up in dark face and more black contact lenses, so he would look like a Latino for the movie. And then all the researches, this movie was revealed.

This is considered one of the most offensive movies. This is a Robbie Benson passion project, though. Walk Proud. Yeah. Robbie Benson is a Biliwam Mendez, but if you're like, I'm also married as long like you got to be believing in the material. Do we do this for politically incorrect month with a soul man and a couple others? What if we did walk Proud with Van, but just like made no comment about how weird it was. Yeah. Well, CR and I love this walk Proud. Benson is just as it is

back in this movie. So, but this ties back to them thinking it was a good idea to have the 13-year-old. This is 1970, guys. The star of the cocaine area. I ran our his off. Yeah, people are just, it's like, we got Robbie Benson. He's going to play Amelia Mendez. That movie was released by Universal. Yeah. By the way, Robbie Benson was like a star because he was coming off what I want. This was like his next big project. So, yeah. That did not go well. Anyway, those were

four movies. Great chat, go to a word with Jeff. I had the freeze frame of when the horse has

Putting animals indoors, like, large farm animals indoors. When you see the four legs,

“just open the guy, bring food to the chase car. Like, I'm going to bring the legs if you ever try to”

play safe. Oh, he's measuring the doorway. It's good. Kuhuna Burger for best use of food and Jake. It's got to be on the zit. It's over there. Yeah. Yeah. Chess Rockwell, Brocklanders are where for best character name. I could give you John Blutarsky. What about Mendie pepperage? It's pretty good. I have Gregory Marmalard raped in prison. What have for a flex? Oh, shit. I had the dentist back relationship test for otter. Otter has dentist back. Yeah. With flanders for all. But it's just coming

and being like dentist back, Los Angeles PD, damn glad to meet you. But she's girlfriend, where we going to the film other than the 13-year-old. I have minus the Greg Mandi Babs Love Triangle is just the hand jobs are funny. I don't know if there's this slide hand job. Yeah, I'm just

“kind of like, all right, guys, this is not your mean to why I'm watching it. The hand job seems”

kill me. Yeah. Why is it soft? He's like, sorry. There's dealt of things on my mind. It's 19. All you want to do is get late. My week length was 1962 is now 64 years ago. It feels like a fucking lifetime. Yeah. I mean, I did them watch this. Zoe Simmons, my daughter, who's home right now. It was on. She was on her phone the whole time and thought it was too slow. But they'd enjoy Belushi. Okay. That was her review.

Did she see it before? No. Okay. No. But yeah, if you're remaking this, I guess we did remake it as old school business. The Steven Skull shading on himself a word for most unbelievable anecdote from the actual line. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going with, uh, so they filmed this at the University of Oregon and they weren't supposed to interact with the students. But then one day these girls out of attorney invite them to attorney party. All the Delta actors go

they're greeted with hostility from the Oregon students. Guy widows who played Hoover throws a cup of beer at drunk football players and then are having a bra and McGill gets a black eye widows got to eat up at some loose teeth and then Palushi was filming us and I came back, found out about the fight and they had to like physically restrain him from going to find the football players. He's a fucking real one. Yeah. I love the detail in the New York Times

“oral history. I think widows says he was basically like hooking up with a girl whose dad was”

a dentist. Yeah. So he got in at eight in the morning the next morning. Get his teeth fixed. The Ed Norton reverse dunk award for did this movie need a random sports scene. So can I can I get rid of like one of the two hand job scenes? Well, just have like a entrepreneurial football scene. There's a new rugby. This is exactly what I was going to say, which is this movie needed to end with a flag football game or a football game to decide whether

or not they could stay in college. And I went as far as to just break down. But let's go. 1960, you did this. 1960, do football positions. So you got quarterback halfback fullback center garden and so honor to be honor definitely QB. He's probably a good QB.

Incredible pocket presence. Yeah. It's a little bit like a little British jazz or this, you know,

sure kind of Jimmy G a little bit. Yeah. But like would excel in the McVay system. Unfortunately, back then it was like 90% runs. But yeah. Half back you go a boon. I like Ryder. Yeah. He's proud to see speed going between the tackles fullback. Obviously, blue dough center. I go D day kind of calling it all out Kelsey's style sees all the country thing. I could see him as a tight end. Yeah. And then guard flounder. You got to put it somewhere. And then my wide receiver

is her Hoover and Stark. Stark. What do you see? What does what I say? Oh no, honor. When he's like Stark, when you came here everybody thought you were great. Like you're a brave David Jesus. Yeah.

Now, I don't know what the other team. So, but this is basically revenge of the nerds decided,

oh, we should actually this will be our ending. Well, if they just remade the end of the longest yard, I would have been like that's that's great. Yeah. So you could have gone football, basketball would have been weird, softball. No, because it feels like it's fall there. It feels like it's

Field at Oregon. That's true, but they're supposed to be a Dartmouth, right? Like this supposed to be

“the Northeast, isn't it? Yeah, but there's a shot. The ROTC thing, you see Hayward Field behind”

the big track through that one. Among the things that is aged the best is Eugene as a college town. Oh, we sure. Been there a few times recently. So a 7 v 7, 1962, entrepreneurial football, something. And it's like, we'll let you stay in school if you win this. Blue sheet definitely scores. Oh, you know, it also in school does a big job. And basically, you do a decathlon or like, like a little bit Olympics. Yeah. This movie's still huge at Oregon.

I mean, they play shout at in between every third and fifth quarter. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What's aged the worst? I'm sure the blue sheet boy or stuff wouldn't go over awesome these days. We mentioned that 13 row girl. And then the angel devil scene. Yeah, I had that one. Angel devil scene, statutory rape, prominent confederate flag on the wall. Yeah. That's huge about animal cruelty. The angel devil scene really hits the jackpot.

Of things that she would never happen again, especially when we find out that how young the girl is,

but I got to say. That was like fucker. Fucker. I have one more. What's aged the worst, which is a personal preference thing because obviously he was relatively successful around this. I just would love to have seen the right men or ramest version of this movie directed.

“I think Landis is like, this one in blues brothers feel so flat to me. Yeah.”

And he loves to do like a big master shot where there's lots of psych bags and like recurring bits or whatever. But I just wish it had a little bit more pizzazz with the direction. And I like what he did with trading places. So it's not like I don't like any John Landis movies. And I mean, don't get fried movies. Still like the hardest I ever actually laughed in my life up into that point. But these two like blues brothers and animal house are like kind of like a little too static for my tastes.

Yeah, Landis, I'm trying to think of like there's coaches over the years that get too much credit for the teams they had. The Casey Jones was like this is like, what a coach. It was like he had bird pairs with him. Bill Walton and, you know, we've seen football coaches like this, too. We're Mike McCarthy.

“Right. Well, it's fine out. How dare you? Well, Mike McCarthy that one year and it's like,”

Mike McCarthy, what a coach. And then, you know, he's available and starts bouncing around. And I wonder with Landis, the people he had on animal house. Now, I'm sure he gets credit for some stuff. And he's been really good in the different books of spinning stuff his way making it seem like he's been in the world history for animal house. Multiple, like he immediately started calling it his movie. Yeah. And everybody was like, what the fuck man? Like we like this is all of our life stories. Pretty famous for revision history stuff. And it seems like a lot of the people that have worked with him.

Aren't that flattering about him after the fact? Yeah. Like Eddie Murphy was another one that really turned out. Any work with him a bunch? I know, but the last one coming to America, he turned on him.

And then we did the Landis do like the Beverly Hills cop that's said it like Disney World basically.

The bad one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know, obviously he was talented, but I also feel like if if right man or ramus had directed this, I'm sure I'm pretty sure it's still been funny. There's some some racism stuff that may probably make sense because it's at 1962, but that when you watch that, you're like, oh. What's your major primitive cultures? And then it just cuts right to Otis. It's like, yeah. Well, in like the mayor has the lawn jockies. Yeah. Maybe the confederate flag. Yeah. Um, the only other would say, Joers, this inspired a lot of copycat stuff, including the made us ABC sitcom called Delta House.

You ever see it? No. Dean warmer was in it. So was flounder. McGill was in it as D. Day. Widows was in his Hoover. Michelle Fife for made or acting debut. And then Bludos brother Blotto played by Josh Mastell. Zero Mastell's. Yeah. Yikes. Then CBS decided to co-ed fever about all female backster college one episode.

And then brothers and sisters on NBC of Frat and sorority sitcom three months. I never watch any of these. Okay.

And in the late 70s, I watch everything on the child. I did not watch this. The Hans Gruber scale villain ranking. Neeter Meyer or Dean warmer in the finals. I did need. Neeter Meyer's pretty iconic. Can I make the case for Dean warmer? Please. He hates these guys so much that he fills them out of college. And then says, and I notified the local draft boards that you are now. That's true. He does. That is like the people with the guys. He's like, I'm actually going to send you guys off to be murdered. Yeah.

So I vote for him. Neeter Meyer, this try to shoot somebody during the parade case. I will give. So then if you say that I'll do the ruffle.

Well, he they twisted sister had the uh we're not going to take a video. And they bring Neeter Meyer back to basically play Neeter Meyer again yelling at D Snyder.

And that that actor Mark McCaff basically came to Meyer. He became Neeter Meyer. Yeah.

“It was like we've talked about I think that's a rewatchable category actually in the flexes.”

Did you can you escape this? Yes. Yeah. This character. All right. We'll take a break and then we'll do how to stick. All right. The CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been here to support how to stick award. What do you got CR? Can we just talk this out for a second? Yeah. Is this movie? Or is Blue she's career different if you place Flounder? If Blue she doesn't do like a Blue she like mega performance. He saves Blue though for the next one. Yeah. Or maybe like you do animal

house too and Flounder becomes Blue though or something like that. I know he's probably a little old to play a freshman. Yeah. But I would have loved to have seen Blue she'd like try one different like sort of speed. He does that in neighbors, which I saw in the theater where he plays the

straight man basically. Yeah. And you're just sitting in the whole time waiting for Blue. The other the

only other one was like literally the Tim Matheson thing where I was just like this guy does this movie. He's got like like literally like the platonic ideal movie star looks goes up for Raiders. It's him, Tom Selich, Jeff Bridges and Harrison Ford. She's got market corrected a couple times ended up like

“by the time we got to the 90s he's in a lot of those lifetime type of movies. Yeah. I think that is”

attracted to the nanny. He is like later period probably highlight would be when he's the VP on Westway. Right. Maya, my how to stake. I think this movie caused more copycat damage than any other movie ever made damage. Yeah. I think it completely wrecked two generations of college kids trying to basically this was Blackout Blue print for like let's go fucking crazy tonight. They would have done it anyway, but this movie gave them a map. Yeah. To be like what we could have a frat like

they like all the stuff was kind of happening anyway, but I think this movie like was was the gasoline and the fucking match for argument that even outside of animal house like outside of the Greek system. There's some influence of animal house on interior design and houses lived in by like three or more men. Three or more guys like where you have we just put an air hockey table that we found on the sidewalk and hung it on the wall. Like you know to be or like the TV is on a milk crate

every of three movies and we watch them in on a loop. I think this movie killed more brain cells than any other movie ever. In terms of the impact it had on kids going to college in the future. Yeah. I think just kids being like some day I'm going to college. I'm going to be like the animal house. Yeah. And just going fucking nuts. Casting with it's the initial cast wishlist. Chevy Chase's out. Our Bill Murray is boon. Brian Doe Murray is Hoover. Dan Akraot is D Day and

Blue She's Blue Doe. And Lauren wouldn't let that Lauren things not true. Okay. I don't think he ever would have not let somebody do a movie. Like Akraot is said because they'd based D Day and Akraot because he wrote a motorcycle and he feels like he should be in this movie. But they're filming it during season three of SNL and Akraot was like a huge part of the show and he felt like if both him and Blue She were flying back and forth doing a movie it would hurt the show.

“And that's why he said he didn't know it. I believe that story more than I just don't think Lauren”

would be like you're not doing this. I never looked up for him. I didn't see how I did now. I mean,

I'm a little too old probably. But like I would love to try and do like buy coastal potting and just see like if I could do. You are New York Monday to Wednesday. Yeah. And then I'm back here to do rewatchables. There's definitely dead. Yeah. Like the rewatchables. But canceled this week because Bill died from flying back and forth. Chase turned down the film for foul play. And there's of course Lannison Chase disagree on what happened. Like just absolutely busting each other's balls in the press.

Yeah. Lannison, who I think does spin stuff toward his version of things. He's like I didn't want Chase to be in it. I told him it was going to be an ensemble and then do foul play. Yeah. It was like you're not going to be the star of this movie. And I'd jet I mind tricked him in the same. No. And Chase was like I was offered foul play with Goldie Haunt. Like of course. I think he was like as usual, John Lannison's full shit. Yeah. Something like that. John Lannison's full of shit as it usually is.

Ramous for at the part for Boon for himself. But they decided he looked too old, which is funny because half the people in this movie looked too old. And I think that was another Lannison's call and Ramous was pissed off about. Still mad about it. Yeah. Lannison wanted Jack Webb from drag net and Kim Novak to play the Wormers and Jack Webb thought this movie was not funny. Bigger questions. Does Craig know who Jack Webb is? I don't. Did you ever start a drag net?

Right in one it did direct but had no directing skills. And they said no thanks. That's that

guy word. Really tough because this movie came up 48 years ago but I remember John Vernon.

“I think Flounder is that guy. I think people know what his real name is. Yeah, I guess”

he's not in a ton of stuff. Yeah. Neeter Miron would be the other one. Yeah. DM waiters. I could offer you Donald Sutherland for two and a half scenes. I could offer you Dean Wormers wife. I could offer you Otis Day. Or I could offer you Shelley. The girl who was Phon's roommate who really wanted Otis to feel better. The girl who's Phon's roommate crack on the right. She's really good. She's really good but I'm

going to go with Sutherland just because it is like a classic downwaters of like I'm in two scenes. Everybody's like that's Donald fucking Sutherland he's in mash and then yeah. I have Dean Wormers wife. You can get your finger out of my ass. You want a drug witchy. I love drug witchy. Great stuff. Can I just for casting what ifs? I mean I guess this is also casting couch director city. The it's pretty legitimate research that this movie was offered to a bunch

of major directors. Yeah. So John Slesinger who did midnight cowboy. Yeah, did you believe this? It's in the New York Times oral history. So I was kind of like maybe this is true but it went out at least to Slesinger Alan Bucula, Mike Nichols and George Roy Hill and Bob Raffelson.

I didn't understand that at all. That's amazing. George Roy Hill directed this.

Well, I mean he's probably made directed slap shot. It wouldn't have been completely out of the question. I just can't imagine why any of those people would have done. Which of those directors do you think would have been like so the 13 year old. I forgot to mention Shelley to IMDB credits. What's the other one? An episode of Charlie's Angels. Oh, okay. That was it. I thought she was good. I thought she liked the film. She was Robbie Benson's Chicana girl. She dated Amelia Mendez before

somebody else. We cast in couch director city. Would you have? I'd like to see right then do this one. Yeah. I'd have right been his director. Craig Flax. Jamie Lee Curtis, a necessary nudity. But I think all of the nudity nudity in this movie is defensible because it's all at the service of these like loser horny college kids. Yeah. So I actually think all of it's fine for 1978 and it's totally fine. There's one scene where I'm like Karen Allen's just bare ass and I

“won't seen. Just I don't know why that's in the movie. And that's why Southern Linzass is out”

is apparently he was like I if she was going to have to take her pants off. I was going to take it. Well, like it's in solidarity Southern there. Yes, Southern there. Because the rest is like sure blues. She's a creep. He's looking in all of it actually kind of works. And then there's just the beginning of it. Karen Allen's just putting on a dress. We didn't listen. We haven't really talked about her and writer in what sense. Just as like that they're like in kicking and screaming in this

movie. Like they're in the most like relatable normal relationship. Could he is like one more scene with that? Yeah. That's a good lesson. Jeff scene. Karen Allen, she looks great. Looks great. Really, one of a kind. Yeah. Something really just like fetching and approachable. Did you have a girlfriend in college when you were like, I love the Boston Red Sox and drinking beer and hanging out with my friends who was just like, when are you going to grow up? Yeah. Yeah. Her like pouring beers at

the beginning of the movie behind the bar at Delta, you're like fuck. But yeah, like like that was

“also she's also like the coolest thing ever. Yeah. That's what I like about the character is”

I'm not positive. She exists in real life. Sure. Trying to think of any friend girlfriend I had. No, she's like the platonic idea of a woman in that movie. Yeah. Half-ess interview research. We met at the University of Oregon, led them these campus for 20K, but they were like, don't mention us. And then all these years later, they have like a tour when you go. Yeah. Here's all the film locations that you shout

between the third and fourth quarters of Urban Football Games. Just don't watch the movie,

but no, that we were in it. Black extras had to be bust in from Portland due to the scarcity around the college campus. Wow. In '78? Yeah. Landis brought the Delta's five days early, so they could all bond and they all bond and the Brisbane girls' room became party central and then the Omega's were another part and they all didn't really like each other. It's weird that on a movie like animal house they're doing like method acting rules because yeah. I think I read that like Greg

wanted to party with them, but it was like, you know, I couldn't really so like it just put me more into character than I was like, "Mom, did you think they took movies more seriously in the 1970s?" Because we made less of them, right? So if you're in this, it's like this is a big deal. We have that. Now I just feel like, yeah, I'm an animal house and I'm going to do a thing on

something about like, you know, these movies back then also excelled at like, finding unknowns

“and so people were probably like, this is my big break. I'm going to take it seriously even if it's”

animal house room. Belushi went to local nightclubs during filming, checked out bands, became fascinated by a musician named Curtis Salgado who wore sunglasses and loved the blues and it became the blues brothers. They almost had a sequel, Craig. It was going to take place during the 1967 summer of love, a reunion to otters wedding. Yeah, which is funny in itself, Otter was going to get married. But then when it more American graffiti bombed the box office, I saw that moving the

theater. Universal stalls the project, Belushi dies and they're done. Yeah, this would have been, it was going to be said, hey, Ashbury, I don't know if it necessarily was kind of into the idea. Yeah, but it's like, it's a different sensibility than the one that was in this one, just kind of like Ivy League prick sensibility. The Wayne Jesse played Otter's day as my favorite piece of research. Purchased the rights to the character named, they baited it up and it became

Otter's day in the night. But he doesn't do the misfortune. Yeah, he's lifting. Yeah. And landed five seconds. Like 25 years later, that this guy has been just touring the country doing Otter's days. Like, good for him, I guess. Yeah. Stephen Bishop, no relation to my buddy, Bishop, who is also named Steve Bishop. This is a running joke for us that there are two Steve bishops. Yeah. He was the guy with the guitar. Okay. He's had a career in his own,

started dating Karen Allen after they met in the set, dated for years, wrote the song, separate lives based on their breakup that became a hit song for Phil Collins and Marilyn Martin. And was in the movie "White Nights." I wrote a separate song. Yeah, emotional. Not a great karaoke song. No, Bruce McGill and Tim Madison started black sheep. They're the only actors to start with Chris Farley and John Boulouche. Oh, wow. Yeah. And then um, Universal's film president

Ned Tannen, one of them, the cut the entire black bar scene thought there would be riots across America. Big argument back and forth. They sent the movie to Richard prior and he sent Ned a note saying, "In on my house is fucking funny, white people are crazy." And then I'm saying, "This movie really hit the gamut of weird things to touch." Apex Mountain, Boulouche, yes. Yeah. Tim Madison. Let's say yes. I felt like the world was his oyster out of this movie.

Cafeteria scene. Is he also in 1941 with Boulouche? Is Madison again? Yeah. Cafeteria scenes? Spend some great cafeteria scenes. Uh, yeah. Dining hall scenes, but this is probably up there. This is the best food fight I've ever seen. Yeah, I think it narrowly edges just one of the guys that make Greg tollen. Greg didn't like that one. It just beats it out. Yeah. Barely.

“John Landis. I think trading place is personally. Yep. I agree. Hand jobs?”

Why is it soft? I kind of want to Google greatest movie hand jobs, but I'm a little worried this

is worth it. Yeah. Stephen first. Yeah. Definitely. Definitely. And goes on to play

door for men again multiple times. Yeah. Peter Raghard? No. But I can't off the top of my head think of what it is. Maybe. I think it was animal house for years, but now I think it's sopranos. Okay. He dates the Russian hooker and then Tony beats the shenanigans. He and local hero with the two died. Remember, yeah. College movies. I'm going to say yes. Togapart is yes. Do you have a second favorite college movie? Old school. Do you have a third

favorite? Road trip. I think road trips excellent. I really like the movie. I think everybody wants some is like way up there for me now. It's getting there. It's aging. Really nice. Where you have

her PCU fan? Never read. I never really love Piven. Okay. Yeah. You've only watched his television

“series nine days. Bye. Bye. Cruiser Hanks. Thanks. I think Hanks. I think Hanks could do”

honor. Scorsese or Spielberg. This is really tough. Neither of them. Obviously, it's two different entirely different things. I think it's definitely Spielberg. He basically tries to do this in 1941. Okay. Right. So, for say they would be like, there's cocaine. There's all kinds of shenanigans. Yeah. It's like when Blue She's on the ladder, he's just like staring. Yeah. Picking that. I have a few. Um, just Dean Wormer really need to go digging into the school's

class. They're all good at zero point zero. We got to put them on probation. We have to look for

all these reasons. Yeah. Just fucking kick them out. A few of the actors too old for college. No

“question, but I think that's part of the joke. Wouldn't Mandy hear Bluedo and the ladder or see him?”

Yes. He's moving the ladder over. Could you actually even do that? It's like a 12 foot ladder. Could you jump it up and move it like that? If, um, Flanders brother was also had been in the frat, wouldn't he kind of understand if his car got destroyed on like a frat road trip weekend? Yeah, true. And also like, I'm not sure I totally understand why Boons being such an idiot with Katie, like, Guy Karen Allen. Yeah. Yeah. You doing like that. I don't want to date with a bunch of

like Smith College girls for a weekend. Mrs. Wormer goes to the Delta Party. Yeah. I'm insane. I just know why that happens. He's like, get me a drag. Uh, Flanders and a kill and explosion. Awesome. What? I just need more information. I'm looking for your kids. Yeah. So you do your, you do, you do, you shape the clay and everything. You put it like a lacquer on it. It's just exploded. But it's like they're fucking super oven. Yeah. And they used to have those in my like arts

and crafts and splutter more information. And they would always be like, it was really weird now

“that I think back about like shop and arts and crafts class when I was a kid, because we were around”

like table saws and kills and all these chemicals for black rooms for for dark rooms for photos. Yeah. And it was like, yeah, you guys just don't drink that and don't put your hand in the oven. Right. Why don't we see Flander puke on Dean Wormer? I don't know. Big mess. I think if this movie is made 20 years later, we see the puke. Yeah. He's like, just covered in puke. They'll figure it out. Can you really just buy 10,000 marbles? Flander by 10,000 marbles. Like, I think how many marbles

that is? I love that that scene is literally one second long. It like comes to him. He's like 10,000 marbles, please. It would have store half 10,000 marbles. Can you go to a store right now by 10,000 marbles? How did they see out of the, uh, the flow car, the eat me flow car?

Uh, it was like a, it's like a tank basically. I don't, I don't know.

Every time they cut to it, it's just completely covered with float stuff. Yeah. And their Bruce McGill's just just driving it around. It's insane. That whole, that whole sequence is so nuts.

“Yeah. Sequel, prequel prestige, TV all black cast or untouchable. Uh, I think a sequel could”

work. If blue she had that. Yeah. I think a reunion thing would have been really funny. I think it could have just like, this could have just been a franchise where they just kept making analyzes set throughout the decades. But I guess they just like, I mean, we had four America pies. Yeah. Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Furgy of the Floor is saying low Robert Evans or somebody else? Boon. Hey, you all man. Hi, education, but we find you at an all-time

low committing statutory rape. Been drinking, not taking a study seriously. My, my Zane is rusty. I'm sorry. Where do we go from here? And where's your 13-year-old child bride going to go with you? We were inspired by Jerry Lewis. I had, uh, I had Dr Charles Nichols. You'll have to excuse my friend, John Bootowski is not feeling well. We're good. Um, just want to ask her who gets a blue she? I guess so. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Probably an answer to questions. Did this movie create double

secret permission? Yeah. Was this a term that existed before this movie? I'm going to say it did not exist. Maybe it was taken from, like, their college experience, but it is very funny. Yeah. Would you have? Uh, did this movie invent not only this ex-comedy, but the college comedy, and what were these guys majoring in communications? Was that an older back then in 1962? It would have been funny if Bluto was a big political science guy. Well, that release man, stuff's happened there.

Well, he doesn't, uh, he's pre-med, right? But pre-law, same thing. Did the Omega's create the Luminati? Well, the threat, the frat hazing was pretty, I think they pretty fucked off. It's really real. You know, Cooper got eyes wide shut. Yeah. That scene. This is my big one. Was Greg Gay? I guess so. I think it works possible. Two of the hottest girls at that. Mandy and Babs. That's yeah. Those you're hot. What it was against, was against premarital sex, and could barely get it up for a

hand job in the car or anything. Yeah. Just have some suspicions. See, I'm really, really interested in the in, in shooting with the Delta. I don't know Craig. Very repressed. Yeah. Yeah. Something's going

It's, uh, the fishbowl boobs from behind the bar. Oh. I had the, uh, the college sweatshirt blues she worked. Yeah. That's a great one. That's a good one. Which you can get, uh, I mean, everybody ripped that off since you can buy that. Yeah. It was actually going to try to speed rush that to wear that for the pilot. Um, configured out. Coach Finnsack, Mr. Miyagi, best life lesson. Don't get mad. Get even. You know, I had your only young ones. Hmm,

double feature, old school. I have revenge on nerds. I've never seen revenge on the nerds.

I, I, I don't know if that would ever be a rewatchable. Hard to find. As soon as it's streaming again, it's going to be a rewatchable. I'm not dead, sorry. Don't just come on, Ted. Do the right thing. Love comedy, right? Uh, if they comedy fan, what do you have for double feature? Uh, God. I guess it's old school. Yeah, I've got one that would be Project X. Project X for the debauchery. Yes. Yeah. Neighbors like everyone. Yeah. Fucking band had a Project X party at

our house. He did. Yeah. Was it a, what do you mean, though? Like, it was a party or it was like a project. It was supposed to be 125 people and it turned out to be 400. When did this happen? Ah, two months ago, you fucking kept that under the rug. Yeah. Was mad about it. And Ben was, and Ben was, uh, not happy about it. And then two six months later. It's like what I had, but what did you, you mother fucker, huh? Didn't try to do that. Looked at no one's more

disappointed about this than me. He did. He played all the fucking tricks. It was like a bunch of hundreds from other schools started showing up. Yeah. It was. Oh, my gosh. It was amazing.

“The zaster. But he, Ben's a masterman. I think he did all of it. But did anything go wrong?”

Didn't any burn down or did anything go wrong here? Nothing burned down. Um, the cops did come and still finding like cigarettes and random places and stuff. It's the madness I've ever

been in. But I should have known. But that, the thing is he could never have a party here again.

I should have showed up like the Dean's wife. You probably, I honestly wouldn't have been surprised. I'm amazing. We were like, I heard about this party today. We're, it's a bit who won the movie. A pollution pollution Craig give us your thoughts. I love this movie. I like it more now than I ever have. When I watched it, whatever, 10 years ago, closer to Zoe's opinion. I was like, okay, it's a little underwhelming. Maybe it's the pacing is just different. The way it's cut.

But I don't know why watching it. I had an absolute blast. It's such a great hang. Because it's a hang movie, which is rare now. It's not really. There's not like a lot of like hard jokes, punchlines in this film. It's more like dirty, dazed and confused. It's, you know what it is to, it's, it's just short stories. So like, until the last 30 minutes,

there's basically no coherent. It's not really a plot. You know, it's like, no.

Here's all these funny things that happened to these guys in college and then at the end, it's like, they have to stay in college. So there's going to be a parade. Yeah. It's just more about the hang. And the movie, this movie, for all of it, you know, it's like, it has an age-well in certain ways. But it's just like your fun drunk uncle who is hilarious. And you just put up with like, you've swam as long as you'd seen it before you watch it for this

every couple years. Yeah. I'll jump in. I liked the interplay between the guys. Like,

“there's real friendship in this movie, which I think a lot of movies have borrowed since.”

I think it's actually just quite well acted. I think it's unbelievably well acted across the board. Yeah. But how dumb this movie seems like it is. Yeah, Matt the sin. The rags are great. They're all really funny. Yeah. And I think movies back then compared to comedies now. Like, I don't know, even though this movie is about a lot of stupid stuff. Like, there are a lot of commentaries on society and what's going on across the country. And now,

I think comedies are a little bit more siloed in what they're trying to say and they're more just about like the punch line on the screen. There's also like comedies are a little bit more high concept now. So it'll be like, this is a comedy about how like a guy will die in five days. If he doesn't beat the love of his life. I just watched a college movie on Hulu Pizza movie, which is starring a stranger thinks kidnets all about like a kid in a dorm who takes drugs for

a pizza. I mean, it is what it's like, it's not saying anything. It's just a fun, crazy comedy about a guy taking drugs and callers. But it's not it's not wider than the very narrow scope of the movie. Right. And these movies back then were just were different. There hasn't been some water gave Vietnam nice and stuff in here too in smart ways. That's not over the top like what we have now. Yeah. And I think that their sort of umbrella excuse for the way that this movie,

and the 13-year-old stuff is almost so beyond the pale. But like they're like, it was an equal opportunity.

“We made fun of everybody. Yeah. Kind of thing. I also think sometimes when you have to work”

within parameters, the movie gets better. Like, you know, the script was apparently way, way rancher than it actually was. But universal kind of putting like guardrails on the movie,

being in the film. Yeah. And it can't just be ranchy for ranchy sake. It's just like,

“rate scenes apparently that they cut. Yeah. So I think sometimes when you have kind of”

the off-the-wall style and you pair it with a studio and you have to kind of land in the middle. Sometimes it is the best outcome. It's a classic. It's a classic. That's it for comedy months. We ended up doing four quote unquote, political and correct movies. So I'm thinking about marry tropics under Borat and Moss. Yeah. Four movies that definitely push the envelope for different ways.

“You need to go back and revisit. Which is the one that you feel like honestly Borat. Yeah.”

I was just, you missed that episode. Mm-hmm. You were at, I think it's his wedding. Borat just, I was on the treadmill and I almost fell off like four times. I don't know why it just fucking kills me. It's really, but all of them I thought helped up really well. I think there's something about marriage. We've been with that movie now for 28 years. Yeah. You know all the bits, but it still, Warren still makes me laugh. Especially when Warren came back in the last survivor.

So just to that, Jonathan's brother came back dressed like Warren. That's right. Yeah. It was amazing.

Come, comedy month, though. Pretty fun. What's next? So we're doing, um, we're going to do some or from hell starting, uh, starting next week. All movies that are dot, dot, dot from hell. We've talked about this for a long time. Um, you announced the June 1st movie. You know, yeah. We're,

so the first one is going to be 2001 computer from hell. Um, and then Netflix Netflix, uh,

licensed the bunch of movies for this. So it's going to be, and I don't know if we're going to do all of them, but hand that rocks a cradle, single way, female, good son, uh, pacific heights, which I

“don't know if they're able to license. That's what I was most excited about that one. Um, domestic”

disturbance, which is in the running for funniest, unintentionally funniest movie of the 2000s. Yeah. And a bunch of others. So they're, they're all on there. So from hell, it might be, last longer than a month. Okay. Might be like a month and a half. What a way to bring in the role of some male taxes. Well, yeah, you know, out of our world, couple people. All right. Thanks, Craig. Thanks for how. Thanks Chris Ryan. See you next week in the rewatch of later.