‘Apollo 13’ With Bill Simmons, Amanda Dobbins, and Rob Mahoney

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[MUSIC] Apollo 13 is an America just great. And she's proud to be an American.

“Remember when we used to just solve shit?”

The people on the moon, we used to dream. We still look up there. Like some day, we used to come together. It's people. Yeah, we didn't give up.

Didn't give up. She saw the problem. She saw the problem. She saw the problem. Just solve shit.

Just went up, brought our guys back and shared the control room. The end. Why do you love this movie? For that, to me, this is peak 90s Hollywood. Peak Studio, big budget movie.

And it is to your point, when we talk about, they don't make them like they used to. I mean, America for sure, but also movies like this. Big budget based on a true story. You solve something as a team with movie stars and practical effects

and zero gravity. And you feel better about yourself and the world. And not in a cheesy way, because it is, as Tom Hanks says at the end, the successful failure. So it's just a perfect concoction.

I also 95 was clueless Apollo 13 and English sentence sensibility, which is of course next week on the rewatchables. But for me, those were huge movies. And kind of when I logged on as a movie watcher. Most people of my generation was 94 in Pulp fiction.

It was 95 and Apollo 13. And so this sets the template. Like this is what all movies should be. Tom Hanks carrying a movie on his back. It's also when I logged on as a movie watcher.

“This was, I think the first grownup movie I was allowed to watch.”

And some of it was, as a kid growing up in Texas, space humongous steel. I had space toys. I went to space camp. Oh my god, I wanted to be a fan of that.

It was a blast. Bad. Do you remember Disney adventures, the Mac? So the advertiser in Disney adventures like crazy.

And I was never allowed to go.

But this movie just fed into it big time. Can I say it's not too late. You know, you could be the adult in space camp. Do they have an adult division? I can assure you that.

Should we? Then that for the ringer, 10 year anniversary. Space camp. Did you do the zero gravity machine? No, it's not that.

No, actually, yes. We did that. OK, but no vomit comment. No vomit. OK, this is a great point, though, Texas and space.

It's like the official own team for space. Absolutely. I'm realize that. I was going to kids birthday parties where the whole theme was just like space. You know, it was a weirdly even for the 90s considering how late in the game all

the stuff was a genuine sensation.

And so this brought me to adult movies to the first time.

This and that thing you do are also the first times I ever saw Tom Hanks on screen. Oh my god, hold my hand for nothing. You do. I'm not saying anything in front of you, but there is an anniversary coming up later this year.

You are that thing you do. Are you kidding? That's what I thought. And this is this is a moment of union between me and Rob. Because you know, the deal on the big picture is that he comes on to the big picture

and takes all my stuff, he drafts all of my movies and so normally we're opposed to a foil. Yes, but now together, we love Apollo 13 and we love that thing too. In America. Yeah.

Tom Hanks. Yeah. See, we love the movies too.

We're just allowed to be on the same side here.

It's the structure.

It's the system that's again.

We're not opposed. Yeah. I saw Apollo 13 and when I was in my mid 20s, my most cynical. Okay. Right.

So I was more in like that kicking and screaming, like I just want to like smoke cigarettes. And that's all. Thank everybody. Yeah. I think everybody's like wrong.

And I saw this. I was like, I have a little small teeth. Yeah. Right. And then over the years, so it was on all the time, like this is the carbon dioxide

part. Yeah. Right. And you just kind of get sucked in. I've like a more and more, but especially the last five, six years.

It's just a, it's just a go to safe one. Yes. Right. You just kind of plunge in. It's your friends.

It's like, oh, Bill Paxon. Oh, Gary Sunnis, he doesn't get to go. Hey, there's that hair. He's going to smoke another dart. Right.

And now they got to solve this problem. It is a procedural. So you can dip in and out and it did play on cable all the time. I had to be a chest. But you could do it.

Three hour, it could go for me to 11, because it's like two hours, 20. But then 40 minutes. And it rushes. It's like perfect. And so you would log on for the, oh, OK, they got to fix the carbon, you know,

dioxide monitors or oh, they got to do the burn and keep the earth in the window. And you can't just watch these various hurdles pop up when they're doing the little TV show that nobody's watching because. Sure. Yeah.

And then it works. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to flip in a second. These guys have no idea.

Yeah. Because bacon's going to switch that flip. Well, I mean, with the problem solving stuff, though, like not only did a Paul 13 kind of

“symbolize the bid 90s Hollywood in general, but I think it changed space movies forever from”

this, like, isn't it wonderful and amazing and awesome to be in space, kind of like fantastical journeys into space to every minute is like a fight for survival. Yeah. You can see this straight. Like, we don't get projectile Mary without this movie.

Like, we don't get that book. Like, the Martian, we don't get interstellar, that to me, that type of storytelling kind of starts from a movie making perspective right here. And we have, I had the premiere magazine on that. Thanks.

But this was like, you mentioned 95. The infrastructure, the mechanism of, like, Apollo 13's coming and Ron Howard's going to direct. And Tom Hanks is in it. Like, you were aware of this stuff well before it came out.

And Hanks was, like, the most important person who could have been in this.

There's, I'll step on one cast to one of now, which you guys probably know, but they're offered at the cost of our first. And his costumers, they knew they were doing this, like, at the end of '93. Costumers, the biggest star in the world. Hanks is always wanting to do an astronaut movie.

So his age is like, and he should give it to Hanks. So Hanks is locked in and then Hanks has the Philadelphia Force Gump combo. And now it's like, this is, we've won the lottery of Hanks. Hanks is season ticket tanks now and it's like, whatever he's in next, people are going. And he's, I can't imagine this movie with Kevin Costner.

This is not a Kevin Costner movie. Like, he's way too glib for it. Like, the energy would be so strange. Like, he's getting horny at the party in the world. It's also after no way out.

So you can't trust him. Yeah. The champagne with Kathleen Quinlan, like, now I have to watch him, like, get it on a little bit there. Yeah.

I don't, he wouldn't be in the Apollo 13 for two hours with guys. I don't know. He'd be looking around.

“He's also so essential to the Hanks lore as the, like, as the history nerd guy, you know,”

because then after this, you get in a brother's and you get, say, even private Ryan and you get the, and he's, like, really into astronauts is what the end really into space is what they say and all the coverage of this time. But then it just turns out he's just really, really into 1941 to 1970. But not in a weird way, but not in a cool celebratory way.

That's the thing. Well, he's trying to basically be Jimmy Stewart for, like, two generations of people kind of worked anywhere. And to me it worked. It's good that Sean's not here for this one.

Why?

Because in Cruz versus Hanks, there's always, you're always fighting for Hanks and I'm

fighting with you and I love Cruz too, though. I love Cruz too, but I just think there's sometimes Sean just shades of weight towards. Yes, exactly. Do you feel that way, Craig? Do you think Sean shades of too far to, to Cruz?

Of the, like, he's anti-hanks a little bit. I do think he's a little bit. He does. Yeah. And I, I made for Sean.

This is Tom Hanks, there's 11, rewatchers. He is now moved up there at Cruz's first that 18, but you know, 14, the near 13, Denzel and still on 12, Hanks 11. Okay. Move that out of a two-way tie with Matt Damon.

So long, Matt. Okay. I don't have a graph with every wringer staffer plotted Hanks versus Cruz.

“Like, how far you are leaning on the spectrum, one to the other?”

It's just like, you do have to pick a side. I did, that's hard though, if I actually had to pick, yeah, I don't know. If I could, yeah, you guys all have to pick. No, I won't. This is America, this is a movie about America.

And they have to pick whether to go to the moon or go home, but they don't have to

Pick.

What do you think?

“Tom Cruz could not have played Jim Levo, I don't think.”

No. I just think it would have been a weird use of Tom Cruz. No. Whereas Hanks, this was perfect for him, but I wouldn't have wanted to see Hanks an eyes wide shut.

Correct. Not have wanted to see him in the firm. The eyes wide shut Hanks would be really something to behold. Really an eyes. She is saying to America's dad, he's also an eyes wide shut.

Yeah. I kind of need that. So Hanks goes, league of their own sleep since Seattle, Philadelphia, Forest Gun, Paul 13th toy store in the same year. He's just ripping him off.

Yeah. This is the biggest heater. We've talked about it before in the real actuals. This is the biggest heater anybody's had in the last 35 plus years. Yeah.

Undivided. So we were going to get to later, but he said when we're talking about the America

thing, Paul 13 never really states its theme.

Except perhaps in one sentence, if they're interested in the end, but the whole film is suffused with it. But once that's time we heard that word, suffused. The space program was a really extraordinary thing, something to be proud of, and those who went into space were not just heroes, which is a cliché, but brave and resourceful,

which somehow we don't feel that way anymore. Well, we don't really go into space like this anymore. And nobody cares if we go or not. And I was thinking about like this. I was happy.

I was happy. I was like a moment. Was it actually a moment? Yeah. My kids were super excited.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's good. And they could say Artemis II, and they thought that they were going to see

Atlanta in San Diego, front my head. I watched it. It was like a appointment watching I heard that we were going around the dark side of the moon. We were going to miss connection with them for a while an hour.

I was into it. And listen, though, let me tell you something. At the last minute, they had some heat shield concerns. I swear.

I always have heat shield concerns.

It doesn't. And that's 4,000 degrees. Not the step on who ate what ages the worst, but heat shields, apparently we have not figured this out. I read so many articles about other like engineers trying to get in front of their version

of the Apollo 13, like they all of the journalists essentially tracked down the people who built this heat shield, the Artemis II heat shield, to allow them to distance themselves from various, and more scientists were like we didn't agree on this. They were fine. They made it.

But heat shield still in a shoe. Yes. I don't know. When I was growing up, we had had all this stuff. We had kind of achieved it.

Yeah. And it was already felt like this whole decade was like tumultuous, bro. These great things happened. And now the 70s, now all the sudden great things aren't happening. Right.

And then you see a movie like this that comes out, literally 25 years afterwards. And there's this underlying theme in the whole movie of like, and they don't say it, which I think the more I've watched this movie, it's the coolest thing about the movie. They don't hate you over the head with anything. There's not one moment where somebody's like telling you what the movie is about, no character,

“but it's all underlying of like, back then you just kind of had a dream and that's what you”

wanted to do. And it's about like this guy. All you want to do is walk the moon. He didn't get to do it. And he proceeded over a successful failure.

And that was any kind of nose in the moment like this is what I'm going to be remembered for being able to be pulled back out of space and not dying. And that's kind of where I am. I think the closest we get to someone saying it out loud is Jim level at the beginning. And I think it's in his book of the like, it wasn't a miracle that we went to the moon.

We just decided to. And like that kind of ambition that you're speaking to. I think it's kind of undergirding the whole movie. But then it's like what happens when an ambition leads you to take a faulty oxygen tank into space, like what are the repercussions of just deciding to do something like that?

And then also how crazy was that in the sixties with the fucking technology we had that we were able to even do this. Yeah.

That gets more amazing by the year.

Like think about the TVs they're watching in this and just stuff the radios, the things are so primitive. I think about when they're trying to find the extra power that they need to reboot the command module. And they're in search of for amps, you know, or and they compare it to a vacuum what would

run a vacuum cleaner or something so small and so in constant quenchill. And that's that's the technology that they're dealing with and they're floating around and this tiny tin can just trying to find like a vacuum cleaner's worse of juice. And they're constantly doing that too. They're like, this is what we're going to vacuum cleaner.

We need an energy for a coffee pot. It's like, you got to take a toast or a coffee pot. How do we make all the stuff feel grounded and real in a way where, yeah, we don't feel hit over the head. It's just like, oh, I get exactly what the struggle is because many astronauts are coming

on screen, holding bottles of beer and cups and like mocking it for us. Yeah. There's a lot of people together and you know they're all smart and they're just on

“the move all the time trying to figure out solutions and there's like, I think two different”

times in the movie where they all kind of freeze because they know this is bad and it gets quiet for like three seconds, you know, and Ron Howard directed and Ron Howard, you know, if he was an athlete, we'd be like great career, definitely a Hall Famer, but like there's

Not like a ton of Ron Howard fans, we'd be like, who's your favorite director?

My favorite director is Ron Howard. So what is he? I don't know. The Marta Rosin. Who is he?

He's kind of one, he's like, yeah, I don't know what's the best deal it. No, it's like, I don't like a Philip Rivers or somebody that made the playoffs every year and pull some family members. That was a good thing. He's been with a lot of kids, right?

Yeah. They thought they were going to win the Oscar for this and they didn't. They lost to, in my opinion, but there's this great story about Brangraiser, like with the speech and his thing of standing up as they, and then it's brave heart. I watched that YouTube, they didn't show him, but he said.

And then in the, they didn't oral history last year and someone said that Jim Lovell said to him, it's okay. I didn't get to go to the moon. Right. Right.

Charming, but also really puts it in perspective, however many years later, he's still thinking about it. Everyone thought that year, though, that was like, it was, it was, it won the P.J.

“One of the first times I remember the framework of the Oscars tying into the movies”

coming out, where it's like, oh, this could win.

And I don't remember really, I know they always talked about it, but just for people like

me in Boston, like doing nothing, having the sense of what an Oscar movie was. Right. You know? And this felt like, oh, they have hanks about these dudes at Harris steals all his scenes. Like he's going to win every, and then it only ended up winning two Oscars, yeah, or it's

got me a mile. But I do feel like that forest gump the year before. And you have both hanks and Gary Sinese, and that was such an Oscar heavyweight. And also about a similar period of history, told in a slightly different way, but revisiting the theory of the show.

Yeah. I'm pushing that to later. Okay. The successful failure. Yeah.

Lessons from this, just like, it didn't work, what's to do it again. I'm going to go back in and Sinese, but both Sinese and Hanks were like, all right. Well, it's just in just like the process, which you talked about, like a procedural, like, this is like the ultimate procedural. And all of these guys just trust in their expertise, and there's a calmness to everybody.

Yeah. Apparently in real life, it's even more calm. And that was like the one time they deviated from what real life was like, like astronauts were never reality. Yeah.

People in the control were never freaked out.

Like even the worst disasters we've had, everybody's pretty even keel because you have to be. But I just like watching that, that's the same reason with the pit. Yeah.

“I think that's one of the reasons the pit works, because it's a complete chaos.”

And you're just watching these people, problem solved constantly. And it's one of those things that when you talk to people who make movies and TV shows, it's like one of the hardest things to stage is cross talk. In terms of many characters interjecting, cutting each other off, like I just said to Amanda unfortunately, like all the control rooms, I've no idea how you mock that out without intense

preparation and planning to make it happen. And I read that Howard told all the control room guys, like the more you know the actors, the more you know about your stuff and the more specificity. And like material, you can give me the more likely it is that you make the final cut of the movies.

So I don't think that means they were like that. Yeah, I do too, but you know, they do, they speak in specifics. And you think about all of these guys being like, no, no, I got one more thing and just throwing out some jargon and it still is also legible. Yes.

Plus keeping, like basically obeying a lot of the transcript.

Yeah. And not freelancing with it, because really trying this movie tried so hard to be authentic, which was another thing that was relatively new for the 90s. And now it's like everybody, anyone who made a movie like this would now in 2006, would be fanatical about, I've got to get this, I've got to do this, but back then it was

a little, you've just take liberties, who was going to say, we didn't have the internet. But they, this movie was really fanatical and he sent those guys to like camp to learn, you know, he sent them mounds of transcripts to read and wanted them to listen to how the control room people talk to each other and, and some pressivism, press of achievement. Yeah.

And like the CGI stuff's pretty early. It's pretty good. Yeah. The rocket launches like really solidly good. Yeah.

And then the most famous thing was the zero gravity stuff that they did, which we'll talk about later, our guy Steve Spielberg gave him the key suggestion, just getting one of those zero G plans fly around, I'll do it, metal, that'll do it. Ron Howard, one of my heart with night shift, which we've done on the rewatchables.

“Isn't it incredible that night shift was before Apollo 13?”

Way before. I guess you're doing, you're working chronologically through it. Are you being on rewatch? Yes. But this was, I was like basically, I was basically the age for night shift that you were

for Apollo 13. Okay. So I got it. Yeah. Also, night shift was a huge win.

Craig came in with one of the biggest smiles in his face I've ever seen. We were just like, we just don't make them like these anymore. We don't. We really don't. A camp in a, and then what was the age of funeral home funeral home?

Yeah, some more thing. Yeah.

All right.

Night shift splash. Good start. Thanks. Cocoon. Big movie.

Mm-hmm. Gunho did well. Has an age great. Willow. Yeah.

There are people who were in the way.

There's some willow. I don't want those right now. Backdraft, same thing. A lot of people. Sure.

Far and away, bad. White bad. Fun, though. Enjoy. The accident work is.

Are you aware of it? No. Even like year 17 of the rewatchable, yes. We might have to do it. You should make Sean come on for that.

Make him defend that. And we did. When we did, the crew's Hall of Fame, I do think that Sean drafted it and tried to defend the portrayal of Ireland and the Irish accent. Sean said that movie once.

I think Sean sometimes pads his stats.

“I think Far and away was a one-timeer for Sean.”

It's like, yeah, Ireland, very knuckle boxing. Sure. Nobody's queuing that up, twice. I went to a blind Tom Cruise movie marathon, five movies back to back all day. And you didn't know what they were?

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“I don't know that there are three to be honest with you.”

Yeah, he's not one of my guys, which makes this feel operational. But he was born to direct exactly this movie. What do you think? Parenthood, policy routine, and rush, probably. I mean, I did also like Russian and Chris Hemzworth performance.

But this is on its own pedestal. This is singular. Beautiful mind. That was a movie I like weirdly watched. It's really good.

You don't want to watch it once. Yeah. It might be in the three by default, but I don't love it. It's very like sincere, old, like, early oughts kind of movie. Yeah.

I actually really like Frostnix and I thought that was good. That would be probably my number five. Oh, okay. I like Frostnix. Yeah, it's okay.

Kevin Bacon. Yes. Always, yes. It's Kevin Bacon, a Hall of Famer. Of course he is.

Tremmers alone. How dare you? Is he a Hall of Famer? He's not. So like Michael Cooper's on the camera?

Why do men say this? Why do men not respect Kevin Bacon? Oh, okay. This is also an issue with everyone. Kevin Bacon.

I'm just provoking our research. It sounds like you don't. River wild. I have a bunch of everything. A little 13.

Animal House diner, Footloose Flatliners. JFK, Few Goodman, River wild, a pilot 13 sleepers. Mr. River Frostnix and Crazy Stupid Love. Sure. And I didn't mention 70 other movies.

Yeah.

“I think he's in, but I don't think he gets in on the first ballot.”

And I think he brought up set. And they're like, he didn't get in. Oh, my God. He didn't get 75% of the vote. And then the next ballot.

I think that actually sounds right. I think he's deserving. But maybe it's not obvious. So what's the single best Kevin Bacon performance? Because I don't think it's this.

Is it the real world? It's pretty good in the world. He's really good. I re-watched it a while ago. Merrill crushes in that.

It's not actually Footloose. I think it's actually Footloose. Very good in that. Like the physical performance is a part of performance. I really honestly think it's a few good men.

Captain Jack Ross. Captain Jack Ross. I think smile Jack Ross is, he's just his every moment. He's great in it. I also, it's a terrible movie.

One of the rom-coms was the one he made with the

Aniston picture perfect. No.

He's like, he's like the cad.

I like when he's a cad. He's a good cad. He's like the bad guy that you don't want our long time heroine to fall in love with. And then she ends up picking somebody else.

I think it was picture perfect. But I was like when he's a dick. He's been a dick enough. I mean, he's been a dick. He's been a dick.

He's been a pedophile. He's been lots of things to do. Yeah. The worst thing is what I'm saying. Yeah.

In this one, he's a 60's Bachelor, which is one of my favorites. It's usually like scenes like that where there's some. It's the opening scene. Some goofy 60's house and him flirting with somebody who has a crazy hairdo and being like, "Here's a beard."

And it's like, "Oh, this guy, okay." And then he's pictured in the shower with another woman. Yeah. - And if they don't, they don't really comment on that much. - You don't know if it could be the same woman.

We don't see her, actually we do see her. - We do see her definitely different woman. - It's a different woman. - So we got no very beautiful good for him. - New woman in every port.

- Hi, I'm Proverating in General of Kevin Bacon,

“then Bill Pax, then who I think has like close to 100%.”

- Yeah. - And this is the Pala Twister Titanic, three-sum for Bill Pax, and vaulting him to, perfect. - Trueめて. - Hold her level, culminating with him,

having a listen to the old lady. (laughing) I'll be more about the necklace. (laughing) - Everyone's favorite part of Titanic.

- Some of the worst scenes ever filmed for a classic movie, and then what happened? - So you dated this guy for nine months, and you still talk about him 60 years later, but you had a whole family with this other guy?

- Nine months, it was like three days. - Oh yeah, no, it was, yeah, two days. - Yeah, like two days, nine hours. - Now with the Titanic voyage, two, well, yeah. - Very short.

- With Zach and your children take that personally, and click on your deathbed, you're like, "Yeah, this guy in my early 20s in New York." And that was it, you just talked about him the whole day. 'Cause I would be furious if that was my wife.

- Y'all have clearly never been painted

like a French girl before. - Yeah, it's a life-changing experience. - I honestly hope they be mad

“that I got rid of the necklace, you know?”

I would hope that they... - See, you're too smart, you'd keep the necklace. - Like you have poor- - You take care of future generations. Bill Pax and everybody loves him. The closest here to a weird science bill, Paxton,

because he's got the crew cut, and kind of the goofy, whatever. - Do we math? - But then more importantly, we have the over-qualified side kicks at Harrison.

Gary Sinese. - Yeah. - Gary Sinese, coming off for us, going up Lieutenant Dan, gets to be reunited with Hanks, and then at Harris, who's just like,

"I'm stealing every moment, I'm in this movie." You're gonna remember me, he's unreal. Is there a better guy at being in a control room? - No. - Then at Harris. - Between this and Truman show,

like that's as good as it gets. - I mean, it's an all-time performance. - Did make you think like, if Ed Harris was an NFL head coach, just on the sideline with the headset, but knew nothing that was going on,

but they just would cut to him and he looked at Harris. I feel like we were going 12 to 5. - Can we replace Ed Harris just for Mike McCarthy? Mike McCarthy? - Yeah.

- So it's called a place. - Ed Harris is just like smoking cigarettes, just looking at in the field. You feel like you're at least in the second round. Sinese has the better part, though.

- It's a great part. - It's a great rehearsal. - It's just making nothing out of basically just I'm cutting him and him being intense, but Sinese is like doing some stuff here.

“And it's like the most likable Sinese, I think,”

'cause I deep down I always feel like Sinese

is the ransom guy, just like the dark side, or like Lieutenant Dan after he loses his legs, or he's like on a bender. - Well, to your point about how the movie doesn't actually have anyone say the themes and what it's about.

That a lot of the acting is just people reacting and sitting there silently, like they've gotten really bad news, which many of these characters do, that the course of this movie.

But that's seen when it's, when Hank's, when Jim level tells him that he's not getting it. - He's my call. - Yeah, I was my call. Most of that scene is that I'm just sitting in chairs

like this staring at each other. And you feel everything, it is great acting, but it is just people look at each other, being like, okay, it must have been a hard decision. - Okay.

- It's great acting. - Yeah. - Is that like the split second pause? - Yeah. - It's been a hard decision.

And just kind of stairs and Dan are like, oh, it's so restraint, but for that part, you don't need to do a lot. The perfectionist who got benched and is trying to be a good sport and feels guilty 'cause he wasn't on the flight,

but then gets to try to save his friends and also feels guilty for feeling relieved that he's not on it like, it's a year a couple other times. - It's so much there.

- He's like, I wish you could see it and he's like, I bet you do. - Yeah. - And it's like, yeah. - He's still a little pissed and then you're favorite

of this movie, Kathleen Quinlan. - If they have a problem with that, they can take it up with my husband.

He'll be home on Friday.

She goes to the Lily from time to time.

That's the one. That's the one. - Everything else I'm gonna show you on my husband. - I'll show you on my husband. - Yes.

- She, she, that talk about a nothing part. - Yeah. - Which she turns into, I often, every time I watch my hand. - I watch my hand. - She's great, she's really good in this.

- Every time I'm watching my hands,

“I think about the ring going down the drain”

and like the panic of losing a ring. And I think she's really good with the grandmother. And you know, who I believe is Mrs. Howard. - Rod Howard's mom, yeah. - No, she, she doesn't let it go too big too often.

- This is a classic terrible actress part that she's makes a good part. - Yes. - And has really good reactions. Especially when the end when they don't know

if they've survived the three minutes. - Oh my god. - And she's just like, watch in TV, it's like you really think like her husband's.

- He's like, mom, you're squeezing me. She's like, oh my god. - Yeah, yeah. And then when he makes it, like, she's really, really good.

I've always liked her.

I always thought she should have had a better career.

- She's seen with her and hangs the night before the launch. When she's not gonna come to the launch, she comes, they have great chemistry across the road. But it's good. - Their chemistry is adorable.

She has to spend a lot of this movie to your point, like listening to radios and watching TVs. Everything she and hangs her in together is awesome. It's so, like, I just wish we got a version of a movie where they were on screen more together sometimes.

- Not nearly in a smoking from her though. I just feel like in real life, that lady was pounding. - Sure. - Yeah, but they are, you know, all the astronauts are former military.

- Right. - So, I guess in the 1970, I don't know what that means. But everyone's a little conservative. It's a little straight lady. - Sure.

- It's in the kid to military school. - They do. - Do you think they gave her the Oscar nomination, partly because she had that hairdo the entire movie? - It's real tough.

- I mean, what? - Can you explain what happened in that two-year span? - I don't know, no, I wasn't there. And you were not, you know, sentient. So, I don't know what anyone was thinking.

- It's the all-time, I don't know what you guys were thinking haircut. This, it's like a, it's like a beehive. And it's, I just don't get it. - And all the men at the time were like,

that looks great.

“- I know, I think we admire the engineering, you know?”

- No, I don't think so. 'Cause it reminds me of a scene in the crowd. It reminds me of like Queen Elizabeth haircut, you know? And it's something that you would get done to your hair. And then I guess it is efficient

because it doesn't get touched for several weeks, you know? - Is that what it is? - Yeah, you know, in the shower, she's wearing the shower cap and she has all the pins and everything and that's because you don't wash or restart.

You get your hair set. That's what they call it. That's what my grandmother called it. And then you don't go to the salon or touch it for another week or two.

But yeah, I don't think that people women were doing it for the, to appeal to the opposite. - Really brutal, 'cause the sevenies everybody figured it out. - Yeah. - Everyone looks great in the '70s.

I really wanted to do 60s week at the ringer. - Okay. - Where we just all had to dress like characters in the '60s for podcasts, but Jeff Shatt told me is too expensive.

- Okay. - Also probably illegal. I would recommend it. - I'm gonna immediately like, who am I gonna be? Why would I be? - Because you would have to dress like Kathleen Quintlyn

in a post of taking her further time.

- First of all, that's the '70s.

It's 1970s, so yeah, so I get past on that.

“- I think I said that bra would come off great.”

Do you think so? - Yeah, I mean, the hair of the hair is real. Tall, strapping guy, yeah. Screenplay, William Boyle's junior and Al Reiner, there was a book they got to work on called "Losman"

from Jim Lovell, Jeffrey Luger, and they wrote it with Costern Mind, but that lead part, assuming Costern would be in it. - They looked out in the rest of the story. - I read that book when I was 12 years old.

- No documentary. - Then read on the way to Chase Camp, I'm saying. - So we had no documentary footage. They filmed everything. - Yeah.

- Howard, like, painstakingly recreated. Even like how they walked up, walked upstairs and shit. He studied everything. Really no special effects. Nine Oscar nominations, one for film editing and sound.

So here's Best Picture. Braveheart wins, Apollo 13, babe, the postman. - You'll see now. - Oh, Pistino and Sense and Sensibility were five. - Yes.

I don't know, who wins in the 31 years later, re-askers? - My heart is torn into you. And this one, this is my own personal cruise in Hanks, but it's Hanks and... - Emma Thompson.

- Emma Thompson. - Oh, there you say Hanks and Mel Gibson. - No, no, no, no. - No, no, no, no, no. - Thanks and Emma Thompson.

- Yeah, I think that Sense and Sensibility is wonderful, but this should have one. - This is the most 90s, like historic. - There's a lot of Braveheart lovers out there and it's one of the most requested re-watchables.

We still haven't done it.

- I mean, the speeches, I'm, you know, memorable.

You'll never take... - The crazy thing is, Mel Gibson won for Best Director. And Ron Howard was that nominated. - Yeah, that is messed up. - And then Best Actor, Nicholas Cage wins for Las Vegas.

- Yeah. - Dick Dreyfus, Mr. Holland's Opus. Hell yeah. - Sure. - Did that a while ago.

Anthony Hopkins for Nixon, Terrible. Sean Penn, Deadman Walking Shore. And then Massimo Schroesie. - Yeah, I'll post you know, strikes again. - So here's the thing.

And Robin, our MBA world, we watch this happen, MBA world season sometimes. So if people get tired of voting for somebody, this is just thanks at one, two best actors in a row. And everybody, the Oscar Academy was doing the old.

All right, here's some settled down juice, some hanks, we're not nominated you again. This isn't happening. So he does not can nominated, should he have been nominated. - Can I do my hottest take now?

- Do it now. - Yeah. - I would trade both hanks Oscars for one hanks house actor.

“Oscar, I think this performance is incredible.”

I think it is the best hanks performance.

And this essential hanks performance.

The number of-- - The essential hanks performance. - The essential, it communicates everything that has turned Tom Hanks into America's dad, one of our great movie stars.

And also, like this generations, Jimmy Stewart. There are so many shots that are just of the camera zooming in on his face. As he watches Neil Armstrong walk down the stairs onto the moon or as he listens to Houston and figures out,

they don't know how we're gonna get home. They don't know what we're gonna do. We're not going to the moon. I can't go to the moon, you know, the gentleman, what are your intentions seen?

I would like to go home. - But that's really the only-- - We just lost the moon as a tough one. - I, but the rest of it is in his face and in his eyes. And he is communicating ambition and loss and fear

and dignity and everything that we like about Tom Hanks. - Oh, Armstrong, when he's watching Armstrong land and it hones in on him for a while. - Yeah, and then, like I do, they're very close. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't actually watch that

footage because it's not great quality. You watch him. - His face. - Even that when Kathleen Quinlan is watching one of his interviews and that story of, like a--

- He's a fighter pilot. - When he's a fighter pilot. And he said, and he tells the story of like the lights going out and I followed the trail of out of the home. I mean, the performance that is him trying to give some hope

“and tell you something essential about this character”

and how he wouldn't, he's not going to give up and you've got to keep rooting for him and some humanity to the Kathleen Quinlan character. It's incredible. Like I just, this is the best performance.

And for a scump is great, isn't it? - No, nobody thinks for a scump. (laughing) It's like for a scump gets all the flack. Like this movie is so much better than Philadelphia.

- So beautiful. - It is, and the performance is better than Philadelphia. It's subtler. But when you think about how much of it rests on his face selling the stakes of what's happening

and every incremental change in their situation, I just think he's asked to carry a lot and run our trust suit to agree that's unprecedented for what we see now in movies. Like I think there's only one moment

where they veer until like let's show you something we don't need to. And so we get like the vision of him stepping on the moon in his like dream state. - Other than that, it's all like present.

Let me just show you the Tom Hanks reaction shot and it works.

“- It's funny, I think castaways is the best performance.”

Because I think it was a harder movie than he just says to carry it for an hour and 15 by himself. - And it's like the shorthand now for a type of movie star performance, which is just one guy.

- Everybody is like we've seen now. We just saw with the Odyssey. Different movies, just trying to do that. Where it's like here's our guy. He's gonna be on his own now for a while.

- Well, there are two Hanks best actor Oscars. So we could trade them both. - Let's do it. - Let's do it. - But I want you a two for one track.

- I honestly think he should have at least three. - I agree. - I think he's one short of where he should be.

But you know, if Philadelphia never happens,

he at least gets nominated for this. - Yes. - I think that was a big piece of this. - The lack of the nomination is just disrespectful. - This is what happens though.

And then some people think saving prior to Orion's is best performance. - What's it? - Which is interesting too because it's a little bit older and beaten down Hanks, but same stuff.

- What's your favorite Hanks, Craig? - My favorite Hanks? - Yeah. - Probably none of these movies. It's probably sleepless in Seattle.

- Yeah. - He's also the King of Rome company. - That's beautiful. - Yeah. - He's really, really good.

- I have a number two for me for Hanks. - Different phase of Hanks, but yeah. - 'Cause I thought that was like an impossible performance. I don't know how I put that off. 'Cause the other person who wanted that movie was De Niro.

That movie is one of the worst movies

in the whole time with Robert De Niro. - Yeah. - Like I just don't know a lot of people would do that. - So best actor, spacy wins for usual suspects. Ed Harris is nominated, doesn't win.

And then best supporting actress, when Linda's not when Mayor Serbino. - My de-e-e-e. - My de-e-e-e. - My de-e-e-e-e.

“- I get it, get she, and I think she presented best picture”

for this Oscar, even though she had already won. I don't know why, 'cause that was the YouTube clipwatch.

- '52 and a million are budget made 35 million dollars.

Third has movie of '90s and five. Can you guess the two top movies, Roboni? - '95, '95. - I know clue. - We've done both.

- Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. - Which is the voice story, not the second. - Yeah. - What was number one in '95? - D-H with V.

- Sure. - Dagger with the vengeance. Number one, all time. - Yeah. - Yeah.

- Archive Ragerie, but four stars. - That's right. - This is a powerful story. One of the year's best films, told with great clarity and remarkable technical detail.

It's about men trying to do a job, doing a better one than anyone could have imagined. And then he says, "The Buried, the Buried, "can ever say Buried, Buried, the Buried, Buried, Buried. - Buried, Buried.

- Is that a Boston thing? - It's a Danny High Fits. This is we just talked about Buried today. - Danny High Fits, speech dyslexia. The Buried message is this,

when we dialed down the space program,

we lost something crucial or vision.

When I was a kid, they used to predict that by the year 2000, you'd be able to go the moon. Nobody ever thought to predict that you'd be able to, but nobody would bother. - Yeah.

- Raj, tough, getting a little somber. - Mm-hmm. I mean, there is a somber quality to this,

“which is why I think I didn't go into the reaction”

that you have of being like this as a little too treat-like. - Yeah. - Like it is very sentimental and earnest, but they don't get to the moon, you know?

- No. - I don't fit the way I felt when I saw this movie in '95, I feel completely different than when I watched it now from getting older. I'm the same person who watched Hardball this week

and got choked up when she baby died again. We've dialed it and it was gonna happen. I still can't believe that did that.

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I select the work mode available on plus and pro plans. - Most we watch, we'll see. Everybody watches the alarm strongly and on the moon and we get the Hank's face, you mentioned that. - Spawn, but Jim talking to a son

about what happened in the fire, but the door gets stuck. - Yeah, the door, and that's a good thing. - He's so, so good. - Then the kid says later.

- I know. The door, just good stuff. - This is such a, like, a well-constructed room. - I don't know, you know, it is explaining to you the history of the Apollo 1 mission

and also how the spaceship and works so that one will understand the launch sequence as in all of this. I mean, it is like basic expository writing, but like done definitely with emotion.

It's a good kid. - So these get scrapped from the mission. We talked about that one. - Yeah. - Um, bacon can't fall off above,

I guess Jack, I'm calling Kevin Bacon. He can't fall off the test mission. - Right, I came in two steeper depths. - Well, it's so hard to do it again. - Uh, the launch, where we get at Harris.

I'm giving it at Harris the Todd Parker word for best character entrance. Just comes right in, yeah. He's got a dart, it's ready to go. He's pointing around, he's out.

- Yeah, yeah. - And 30 minutes to show us at Harris is, I mean, one of the master's shows. - Yeah, he comes in like, Joss. - Yeah.

- Everyone watches the takeoff and then, we get in a board switch and all kinds of fun stuff. Jack docking the ball 13 into the little cone area. - Get it rookie. - Exciting stuff.

- Get it rookie.

- Houston, we have a problem.

Also, we got oxygen spitting out of the ship. - Oh my God, it's very stressful. And then the moment when they actually Houston, we seem to be leaking something and then the score, all the noise cuts out,

as you said, and it's, you know, it's real bad. And then we get Ron Howard's brother, who is in every Ron Howard movie. And it's usually either awkward or it's like, oh, they really shoot horned up in there

and he's got to keep part here. - Gene? - If you ought to see his dying, and he explains that whole thing to me. - For my chair, this is the only option

or this is our last option. - Turns out it wasn't a good option. - No. - And then we get the we just lost the moon, poor hanks. Jim staring at the moon, thinking about being on it.

- I just wrote down for the next one. Everyone gets mad at each other. - Yeah. - Would they find it kind of real effort? - Yes, yes, yes, yes.

- It's not happened, but I liked it.

- It's really good. A little bit of Hollywood drama. It's like, let's just have one little, you know, moment of friction. - It is more unbelievable that they would not get mad

at each other. And way less movie and way less relatable. - Howard said he took, he took some shit from the astronaut community about a couple of things and he was just like, look, man,

I'm making a movie, yeah. - Yeah. - I got it like a couple times, got a Hollywood up a little bit. The CO2 fixing.

- This is the one. - This is my number one. - It's me too, come on, it's so great. - I've been waiting for my whole life

“for somebody to be like, you need to fit this into this”

with nothing but that. - Right, I got none of that. The closest I would get is say, Bill, when you have me on the pot, you're like, we're doing an NBA male bag,

but you don't get the questions in advance. That's me building the CO2 or filter. - Yeah. - But this is closest to me. You love it.

- Right, dude, I love the rush. - I do feel like I think about this scene anytime. I'm in a situation where I have a problem. I need to solve and I don't have all of the resources that I personally would like to have.

And I'm like, well, I just got to solve it. This into this using all of that. And I'm like, if they could do it and they even rip a plastic bag, but they have one left and they make it work.

So I can do it too. - I also, you know, doing the 0G and all that stuff where it's frantic and they're trying to figure it out. And these guys are just diving through and it's really compelling to watch.

This isn't a, I should have mentioned this earlier. This is a movie that was really another one really helped up by the TV's. The TV's going wide on the rewatches. This is a big one.

This was a much harder with the square. Unless fun to watch. They're gonna burn the engine and steer it manually is my next scene. - Oh, yeah.

- Let's fucking go. - Yeah. - What are we doing? - It's just carrying out the window. - 'Cause then the window.

- That's me. - All right, all right, all right, all right. - You better do your gimbal straight, you know? Like you better come correct with this thing. - Our guy can saves the day and then the last one,

which I think is probably the answer is the atmosphere of reentry. - I mean, yeah, the reentry, right? - It's like one of the best five or six minutes. - But you would rewatch everything

for it to real hit the end. - Yeah, I don't know. Once you have Ed Harris saying with respect, I believe it'll be our finest hour. And then straight into them, you know,

saying goodbye to each other, then then the weight. And you know, you hit three minutes and then count down for like three minutes to four minutes and the flashing to all the people. And it's quiet.

I mean, unbelievable stuff. - It's overall real time. - Every time.

“- Yeah, I think that's what I'm talking about.”

- I think that's what I'm talking about. - And not cry. - It's great stuff. With all due respect, I think this is gonna be our finest hour.

Cuts to Joe Spano, cuts back to Ed, still holding the glare for like an extra second and a half. And then goes back to work. I love that he'd really just buys it to me. - I mean, Nixon's like,

what are the fan dual odds on these dudes dying? - Just tell him three to one. - I gotta say Harris and Sinese are just fucking cooking and dialed in. - Sinese is great.

I like the, I mean, is anything on the planet better than a control room celebration? - No, that, that shot. - All time goose bumper. - Like even, the editing on that is so good

'cause it gives like a quarter of a second and so you get to watch them erupt into applause. It's really beautiful. - Doesn't work as well with the NFL draft. When they make the pick and they try to do

the control room celebration, but they all know what the pick was gonna be.

So they'd never, and be a draft single worse.

- No, it's just a bunch of guys and quarters it. It's like, yeah. - They haven't really landed, haven't staged it. - The Cinematography is not on par. - No. - All those 13.

- There's no good music, yeah. - Gentlemen, it's been a privilege flying with you. - I can't. - So what do you got? - What's your most broochable scene?

“- I think it's the carbon dioxide filter for me.”

- The fix. - I was gonna say CO2, but now that we've re-entered the atmosphere, I think that is, I'm gonna be your corny and say that,

That's the best.

- It has to be re-enering the atmosphere,

but if we can have like a favorite versus a most re-watchable, then re-enering the atmosphere. The atmosphere is the most re-watchable, and the favorite is CO2 filters. - Also when they re-enter the atmosphere,

you get to have that whole mental conversation

“with yourself, like, how the fuck did they do this?”

- On January. - The 4,000 degrees of heat, like, how did this survive? What was your most re-watchable? - Re-entry, it's gotta be re-entry, yeah. - When Hank's, let's bake and take the pilot seat.

When Hank's, he's like, "Oh, sorry, happy to have it." You sit here, you're like, "What the fuck, yeah." And then Hank then signed that he's taped on it, saying, "No, on the button for the limb." - I also, like, as Bill Pax and slowly dies during this movie,

and then at the end when they land, Hank's like, "Oh, but on the phone, we're like, "Oh, this guy's like, "really close to that side of the moon. "Hank's is hugging him to warm out." - Yeah. - And, yeah.

- What's the most, 1995 thing about this movie? I could offer you pretty, pretty bad opening graphics, for the movie. Like, I was kind of startled, but usually, by the mid-90s, we had better movie graphics,

I didn't, I wasn't impressed. Mid-90s, Tom Hanks, skinny face with the receiving airline. But I'm going with the most white cast possible. I just don't think, I think even 10 years later, they're like, "Hey, I noticed you have 299 actors

"in this, 298 or way." - What did you call it? - We're trying 1970, yeah. - Yeah, they could have. - Yeah, they could have. - And then there is-- - They could have moved the couple. It's just, they didn't even think of it as my point.

- There's a big, there's a side, if we do this now. - Sure, sure. - Yeah, there is one black man working at the retirement home. - That's an orderly. - Yeah, it misses level, yells at a lot, which is, it's not a great look.

“- So I think that's the answer 'cause in 1995,”

nobody was like, "Hey, just a note, I noticed this." - Right. - The flood gun dolly, butter on my ass, and lollipops on my mouth award. - Have we had this since you-- - No, I don't think so, but I-- - For something you just enjoy,

what do you have? - Sure, the white vest. I couldn't get it on Amazon here in time, and it also has a special Apollo 13 patch, so just a random white vest. - The head hair vest? - Yeah, of course.

- There's wife made for him. - Yeah, she makes one for every mission. But he does a lot of acting with the vest, in moments of like emphasis, he pulls it down. I think it's a great prop, and it tickles me.

- That's another ad-harris trick with the-- - Oh yeah. - Yeah. - To, like, really tightening the tie, you know, and there's gum chewing, like, really significant gum chewing and certain scenes,

they do, like, little stuff like that.

- How have you never gotten a how a white vest?

- How is that not a white vest? - Think about it. - Liz gives me a new vest every year for my fantasy drafts. - Oh, okay, there we go. - There we go. - Show up in, yeah.

- What do you have for Floyd? - I think it's the muse, oh wait, no, oh yeah, for, this is something you just enjoy. - Yeah. - I think it's the scene where Hank's refuses to look out at Mount Maryland on the moon.

- Yeah. - And some of it's like, I never 100% sure what his hesitation is. Is it like, this is a down moment, and he doesn't think they're gonna get home. Is it like, I need to stay absolutely focused?

Like, what is it because of just the disappointment that he won't be able to walk on it, but there's something inscrutable about him there that I just find, like, intoxicating in this movie? - I've seen it.

- I have the guy who got left behind. - Which words and sports movies? - The astronaut movies, war movies, but in Miracle, the movie that they made about the 1980 U.S. Olympic hockey team, the guy at the last cut, Ralph Cox,

didn't get to be in the team, and but he's like an alternate, just in case, and he's just kind of behind watching everything.

I think that always works.

- This is also, like, Rudy is more or less the guy who got left behind. - Well, for a while, he didn't finally get to it. But that's the point, yeah. - He gets in.

I wish that was a ringer person. We just never hired. We've just, they just cut to him every once in a while. - Thank you so close. - So close for years and years, just kind of make it.

What's aged the best? - Houston, we have a problem. I would say it's asked to be the winner, right, for real. - That's, and I know it came from the mission, but then it kind of reboot with the--

- They cleaned it up. - It's like, okay Houston, we have a problem. It's like a little clunkyer on actual. - Yeah, yeah. - And really, we've had a problem.

- Yes. - Yeah. - But in '95, this was like before memes, we were like saying this to each other.

“Like in the, I know Craig, remember that and you don't.”

Maybe even you don't, right? - I remember it before. - But it's like, yeah. - Yeah, this is that ancient attempt. - It was like, it was like, happy meal toys

and Houston, we've had a problem. That was my playground childhood. - Well, Robin, I go further with it because-- - No, my God. - By the way, the air condition just switched to '73

and I just put it back to '68, so it was about to get out in there. - Yeah, that's what I'm really interested in. - Yeah, all right.

- Sorry, yeah.

The CO2 role is everything that you're gonna be going out is crazy. - Robin, I, with Houston, we have a problem became just a sports thing. - Oh yeah.

- Anytime, like the rocket said last three and row, Houston, we have a, like, it's the most beaten a death thing in sports probably. - How many basketball blogs have been written with that text or subtext?

Like, it's there every time. - Like, the rocket's last year, when it started going wrong with the ramp.

So anyway, it's just, it will never end.

- Um, couple more. Apollo 13, the 13 being bad luck. You do a nice job in the first 30 minutes of being like, this is number 13. - Lot of things going on.

- Had to be lucky 13. - You could believe in that or no. - I don't. - You thought about it, I thought about it.

“- And this honestly makes a very compelling case.”

I wanted to revisit this and answer both questions because if they take off at 13 13 PM and they enter the Earth's orbit on April 13th, I had, like, some would say it's the worst. They kind of court the 13 in a weird way.

They're like, bring it on 13. We're gonna land on 13 13 and 13. Fuck you. - They're making jokes about it. - Yeah, 13 was like, oh yeah, okay.

- So I think you gotta live your life without superstition, but to your point, bringing it in and, like, really, really courting the 13 is almost leaning into this superstition. - So I'm a 13 guy.

- You are. - I'm a 13.

I remember one of the places I worked

through my bartending waitering days, I was server number 13. - Okay. - And I felt like it was good luck. And then my wife's birthday is on the 13th.

- Okay. - Everyone's the one. - Everyone's the one. - It's the 13th. Guess what?

She's fine. She's still alive. - Yeah, and I liked the Friday the 13th series. - Sure. - There's been some good 13's in sports.

- I'm not afraid to 13 guy. - You know, who else is very pro 13? - Ooh. - Taylor Swift. - That's another good one.

- That's one of her numbers.

“- That's what when I was talking to her at the wedding.”

Same thing, like she was telling me. - I think I went 27 seconds on the Instagram. You got me. And I was like, I know. - I know.

- I know. - I know. - Honestly, I would have kept it going for five minutes, but it was just the wrong person to do it too. He was so confused.

But now he's been his whole summer with people torturing her before. - It was good. - People don't have to be like, "Oh, I've got to tell you about Taylor Swift's right in here."

He's like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah." - Oh, okay. What stage is the best? I could eat the ass out of a dead-right ass arrest. - Really good.

- Apparently, given to Paxton from Gary Bucy, who was visiting the set that day, and he used it in point break three years or four years ago. - Oh my God. - Okay.

- Let's say it's the best of score. We didn't mention James Horner. It's an April Oscar. - It's unbelievable. - Yeah, really good.

- And also at Annie Lennox, doing the voices,

“you know, what's the most 1995 thing about this movie.”

No, it's beautiful. It's referenced a lot in other movies scores now. It used to play in the arc light in the dome. - Yeah. - And I would start crying.

It's very powerful. - It's a really good song. - It's also simple and straightforward in a way that it's referenced, but it's like, everyone has to have a take or an iteration.

- We can't make a serious movie now, unless Ludwig Goronson is making a fluid out of a human bone. - And this is just like big swelling or casserole score. - Sure. - With some voices.

- There's a lonely trumpet, for sure. - Absolutely. - Oh, absolutely. - It's very masculine. - It's very like West Wingy to me,

and it's an instrumentation for sure. - Or I guess vice versa. - Well, it's a best. Loving supportive waves. - Yeah.

- I just did that as a joke. - Okay. - Sure. - Well, well, well, well, well, come back to it. - Uh, any movie where Ed Harris has to wear a two-pay.

(laughing) 'Cause we know his hair situation, but this one was like, it's blonde. I gotta say that the back of it's a little darker, like there's a couple points for like,

but I like when he has hair, it's funny. - The geometry of men's haircuts in the late '60s or at least '70s, and specifically in the film, is very square. - Yeah.

- And so I guess they needed to add something in order to make his round head a square as everybody else, because no one very few eggheads. - It's all like military cut. - Yeah, high tide all the way around.

- I have the hanks and Cindy's reunion when she mentioned and the best use ever of Quinn Howard. Those are my what's interesting. - Have any more of them? - How about the Walter Cronkite archival footage?

- It's great. - So when he takes his glasses off and they cut to him taking his glasses off right before Neil Armstrong steps on the moon,

you're like, oh wow, images and history is powerful.

It's so good. - Oh, please, I'm gonna say, can I give you a what's aged the best? - Yeah. - Literally the astronauts have aged so well.

Astronauts live so long. Fred Hayes is still alive. Jim Lovell just died alive. - He was 37. - Yeah.

- He was all during his still alive. - Yeah.

- Throw on their fucking mid 90s.

The astronauts live forever. - So what do you think outer space like gave them extra strength or that take care of their bodies? - Well, sir, what is it?

- What do you think space is doing for them? - Yeah, I think. - So I have to bring conspiracy going for this. - Did they give them extra stuff? - You think that's what it is?

“Do you think there's something on the front side of them?”

- I've seen a two even that whole episode for three hours would have shortened their lives by 10 years. It's like bad for your brain. - Was Fred Hayes sick in real life?

- I don't know, Fred Hayes on the mission. - Yeah. - He had a urinary tract infection from how they had to be in this.

- And he was the first one.

- Yeah. - Right, okay. - So, and those can get really serious. But even that, he's doing okay. - The real answer, unfortunately, is less interesting.

I thought it was, they got some special magic space dust that made them live forever. Apparently, one astronaut's have to be very physically fit. - Yeah. - Like you're already in the 0.01%.

- Right. - They also, they monitor you for your whole life. And you get health checkups yearly by NASA forever. - Oh, because you're kind of a guinea pig.

- I think they want to make things go on. So, anything that's wrong with you is detected immediately. - Oh, interesting. - Okay.

- Should we start doing that? - Yeah, remember? - Yeah. - Honestly, that's, I feel like, - A centimeter man.

- A centimeter man. - Yeah, I'm not giving up my biometric data. - Absolutely not. - Right, ripping it off.

- What do you have for what stage of est?

- Slingshotting around the moon? - Yeah.

“- Which, I think they do in the Martian?”

- Do it in every stage. - Yeah. - Like, I might get that technology. I'm like, you know, it makes sense, but I understand gravity.

- So good job. - So I can do and take the wheel. - Thank you to the moon. Hanks is polo shirts or gym levels, polo shirts. I think, I think that needs to come back.

You know, he looks great. They're the right fit. - Not Mrs. Levels here. - Not Mrs. Levels here. - Not necessarily.

- Not necessarily polo shirts. Really the only shorts leave shirt that I would endorse. - Not enough shorts leave polo's. Too many shorts leave dress shirts going on

and mission control. - True, that we don't, we want it long sleeves there and a short sleeve polo, but he looks good. And then having to turn things on in the right order to make them work, just like my internet,

just like anything else, you know?

- And even then no, when he has the no button, would have just ejected his person, you got to say about it for a while. - We have a no button. - There's a very specific order of all,

so this technology is not gonna work. They still have not figured that out. - Anymore, I'm gonna move on. - I'm about getting together to watch a world event that is not a sport.

- I wish we would do this more. - I wish there were more things we could do it. - Like a party of just- - But if we did good things. - Now it's like the Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight.

We all get together before we were landing on the moon. (laughing) I don't know. We're going backwards. - Yeah.

- Great check order, word. - What do you have? - I think that wide shot of the control room. - I had to say that. - Yeah, it's really great.

- It's perfect. And then to Craig's point, like, it can look very bad as evidenced by all the draft night reaction shots, which even I'm ended up in sub-scene. It's amazing.

- I like he has the camera. It's not straight on, it's the side. So it's a wide angle and you can see, and they built that control room. It's not the, apparently NASA offered it to them

and they didn't run out of one and build his own room. - We're practical that way. - Big 200 burger word, best use of food and drink. I was gonna say that Jello and space when they're making the home movie.

And they're doing the Jello and he's trying to get it. I think I would do that. What else are you gonna do? You're in space, don't TV anything. - Yeah, they don't, they don't really eat a lot

or talk about the food that they're eating. They talk about their water rations. - The lag is they don't want to make number twos. - Yes, exactly. - Yeah, they're trying to.

- Well, if we can invert the question, is it actually the vomit in space? Like the zero G vomit? I think it's like a great showcase for the visual effects. It's disgusting, but it works in his,

it's like kind of shocking to see. - In one of the, it was like oral history, one of the features they talked about when they're doing the zero G, the three guys did not get sick.

They took like all bunch of shit, but none of them got sick, but a couple of the crew members did. And one crew member puked in the puked went zero G and hit Paxton in the top of the head.

They had to stop them. He was like, oh, I was just cleaning it up, let's go. - Yeah. - But yeah, so the puked and slow motion. What would be worse?

They, very, probably a couple of things, but it's up there. - Yeah. - Kid cutty pursuit of happiness or a best need to drop. They put that spirit in the sky song.

- I think that's true. - That's gotta be the winner. Was there better title for this movie? - I don't think so. I like how dialed back it is.

- I don't think so either. - 'Cause you don't wanna step on Houston. We have a problem. Also Houston, we have a problem is like a very internetty. - It's true.

“- In 2026, that's what they would name it”

for SEO or social purposes. - Do you think they knew? - Like do you think they knew the heat they had with Houston we have a problem? - Well, they edited it from real life.

So yes. - Yeah, but it's like, I mean, the idea that this is so good, we're gonna make it potentially the title of the movie, that it'll be the thing that derrs.

- And now there's TikTok,

and it's like Houston was a problem.

(laughing) - Many of Flex category. - I do. This is a specific one, but it is, it's true to my heart. So I'm doing the Billy Bats, Jack Wolves Award

for Biting Scalable and Song. - This is Flight Surgeon Horses.

“- Dick, which is I think is a very usable phrase”

for any time you're dealing with administrative nonsense. For example, I had some Flight Surgeon Horses shit just the other day with my kid school forms. You have some Flight Surgeon Horses shit when the TSA name doesn't match the airplane.

- There are as many times, when just people are standing in your way and they're not even people, but dumb rules. Anytime you're in Europe, it's Flight Surgeon Horses shit. I think it's great.

- Pretty good, especially for mild mannered gym level at this point. - Right, like the one time he yells before they get in the shuttle for Flight Surgeon Horses shit. - Yeah. - Which is girlfriend award,

be Glink of the Film, what do you got, Rob?

- I think it's the teenagers.

- My exact answer. - So the young kids are good. Like the little boy who type out the door. - So are other sisters older sisters? - This son, I remember, at 8 to 11.

- We got to get him out of here. - He was so handsome. I thought he was so cute when I was 11, but he doesn't have Hanks's power of emoting and close up. And they cut to him a lot during Reentry,

and he's still very cute, I hope he's well. - This is where I think if they did make it today, they would be incredibly attentive to every detail in the space shuttle, but they would consolidate four kids

to like two or three kids. Like we got to simplify the family situation here. There's just, we don't need to fly to those. - Is there Jim's mom? She's out.

“- I think they go from four kids to two.”

- You're taking out Jim's mom? - I think everybody's out. We're in the space shuttle. - Is he in the space shuttle? - Watching machine fly? - No. - In fact, no one's the right in this.

- No one's the right in this. - No one's the right in this. - No, no, no, no, no. - All of the women are dying. (laughing) - That's true. - And I'd like to hear it if they're very much.

- But like, you were a few or shots of Marilyn. Can she be opposite a radio more often? - Yeah. - There's ways to nullify this, but that's messed up your taken out as mom. - I had a--

- I think it's funny when they have Neil Armstrong come over and they put my mom on to date. - That's the pain for the mom. - Did Jim make eagles go out? That's really funny today.

- Jimmy could land a washing machine. - I'm so good. - That's really funny. - It's funny. - Yeah, I don't need it.

- She's flinty. - The movie's two hours, 20 minutes. We can't cut some family. I have for Butch's girlfriend. It's funny.

I don't like that there's no reunion ending. So they land everything's great. Then we see them on the plane and they're dressed in the, but obviously they're not home yet on the aircraft. - So they get greeted by people I don't know.

Like, I would have much rather they landed in Houston and we had some decent hanks and soonies.

And like, basically like the top gun ending.

- Yeah. - But I'm corny and I like stupid shit. - I just would have rather had that than, hey, here's substrangers greeting you. - Well, they traded it for a different kind of cornyness,

“which I think like the admiral of that ship”

that you have a lingering shot of hanks with, is Jim, right? - That's Jim Lovell. - Yeah. - So like, you're getting that kind of moment

instead of the character closure a little bit. - I think it's good that they don't prolong it. Because then you run the risk of having to say more of the feelings and the takeaways. And even in that very brief voice over,

he says that we were called the successful failure in that we blubber. - We don't want to the older daughter, one more time. - And I'm just like the more that you actually have to show the emotional moments then.

- I just kind of wanted Denise. I've which Denise had been in the last scene. - But he's so great, his reaction in reentry. - And Harry. - And like, yeah.

- And like, yeah. - It's good to see it. - Did you have a weak linker down? - I also have the kids. - Okay.

- What's age of worst? I mentioned this earlier, but Apollo 13 just leaning in the 13 for no reason. - Mm-hmm. - Just kind of tempting the 13 gods.

There's a couple of fade to black jump cuts. - Yes. - That just would not happen now. Like, it's kind of... - I saw my internet.

- A little lazy. - Yeah. - Kathy Clinton's haircut we mentioned. I wrote Get the Grandmother out of here with three exclamation points

for Rod Disagreeze. - I'm coming back home. - I'm coming back home. - I'm coming with Rob on this just for the evening. - Played by Ron Howard's.

- Yeah. - This is a classic jet appetau. I'm just going to start putting my family in here. Um, so, oh, I had the oldest daughter's ugly cray face. My big one was for what's age of worst.

Poor Jack in real life gets kind of, kind of crushed by this movie. Makes it seem like he's unprepared and he's like a cad. - Oh, the real Jack's favorite.

- Yeah, and I get it, but this is the problem with a based on a true story. Even though it was accurate, but everyone says Jack was super familiar with all this stuff.

He was basically like the backup QB.

- Yeah. - On the crew, it was like, oh shit, we got to throw him in. And I don't know if I was in his family, this movie would piss me off. Like, why did they do that to dad?

- Maybe he would have gotten more simulator time. If Denise wasn't such a perfectionist and was like, we got to run it again. - Right, right, right, right. - I mean, what do you expect?

Do you haven't let him get in the machine? - Yeah, it doesn't. This makes it seem like when you watch this,

“did you feel like Jack was kind of like the wildcard?”

- Well, one of my notes was that I wanted to ask if that was real or not, but this guy was actually kind of under-prepared, because it was what he was for doing. Why would they ever allow that,

this guy just to come in it? Why wouldn't they just push the launch?

- Always a tough beat in these autobiographical movies

when they have to hollywood up one of the characters. - Yeah, I mean, as he championship. - You know, if you can push that, you're doing it. - What do you have for what's it's worst? - Well, I already said to heat shield.

And then, he's apparently we haven't locked that down, though everyone's okay. And I will say the VFX, some of the paint chips falling off the side of the launch. You know, you can tell now the further we get from it,

the more you can see the very small effects. - It's really small, and they do so much of it in camera that I shouldn't complain. - For me, it's the teenage jodder again, specifically blaming Paul for breaking up the needles.

- No. - Yeah. - Real was no, it's all in fine. - Tell Gary to come on. - That is true. - Has there ever been a movie like this where they have the 13, where she like 13, 14, 12?

- Has that character ever been likable in any movie ever? - It's a tough part, 'cause I don't feel like I felt like my daughter when she was 13.

“- Kind of remember money ball d'art, daughter.”

- Oh, that's a really good character. - Which she might only be on the other hand. - Yes, she's like 10, there are people who, like that's the most maligned part of the movie for some people, it works on me,

the song hits me hard in the music. - The art girl, dad. - I mean, it's true. - Oh, mine. - I'm just a little bit caught in the middle of that.

- Yeah. - I've been rewatching Homeland. - Great. - Speaking of teenage daughters, (laughs) gets really tough. - Actually, that's one of the Americans, the teenagers on the Americans,

I feel like I're actually quite good. It can be done, it's just tough. - You gotta get more of a play. - You gotta get more of a play. - You gotta get more of a play. - No more girls, no.

Everyone is very mean about Rory. - Stun think we've figured this out. Ruffalo, Hannah, Rubin' and Partridge overacting. I wrote down, and this is flight searchin' horseshit! (laughs)

It's not overacting, it's perfect. - Yeah. - I forgot to look up Henry, the press officer's name. - Yeah. - But that actor is leaning a little too hard into, I'm the evil press officer, you know?

- He is quite too face. - He was. - And I don't feel that NASA was managing the family and as well as they could have. But Henry really took every opportunity. - Yeah, we're looking for anybody who just was in a nice guy,

we're in for the mission. - Uh, taking one more break, and then Rob's got a flex. - Rob, you have a flex. - I am going to put some respect on Gene Speagles' name, because I did the Estelle Riner,

I'll have what she's having a work with the best contribution by a performer with two or fewer lines. Not only because it fits the criteria of the award but the spirit, right? Like casting your own mom, Alaw, Estelle Riner,

to do basically two lines in this movie.

And specifically, if you could get, if you could get a washing machine to fly, my Jimmy could do it, I'm legit like tearing up at that moment. I can't explain to you why. But the inversion of the little girl crying into grandma

who just had a stroke giving you all the confidence

“you need to run through a wall, I love it.”

I love the nepotism is what I'm saying. - Took out her, took out her false teeth. Took, cause they, however, is where she didn't look old enough and she, though, his mom literally took out her dentures. - But that's incredible. - Yeah, you can cast it for the family.

- For the family, for the family, for the family. - But there are really so many Howard's in this movie. Like Clint is in it, we talked about Ron Howard's dad's in a Bryce's in here somewhere. Like there's, I think Ron Howard's wife is in here somewhere.

He perfected the art. - This is a family movie. - It is. - Listen, as somebody, my daughter's been on my podcast like 25 times, I can't really say anything.

- Yeah. I'm just gonna move on to the next one. - Mike's going to want to do a podcast with a little Caesar about pizza. - What's his point?

- Little Caesar himself. - Pizza pizza, yes. - That's what it's called. - Woodlinson.

- Ooh, Amanda has, we never get to do this category.

- Yeah, and the man here. - It's really exciting. - He made a dovet, it's a work for Best Peace Real Estate. Tough movie for this category. - Can I just say, every time you do it,

even if I'm not here, I feel understood in love. So thank you for this category. Also, there's a great answer, Mount Merrillan. - It's the moon, right? - Yeah.

- Mount Merrillan, no, it is Mount Merrillan, - Just specifically Mount Merrillan. - Just specifically Mount Merrillan. - Name a piece of space after me. Okay, and not one of the stars, you buy in the star

directory, you know, infinity of those. Give me a landmark on the moon. Mount Amanda, the sea of Amanda, let's go. - Pretty good. - We did that.

- We can always find a real estate opportunity.

- We did speed, and I think we handed out

the Dobbins Real Estate for Hopper's house that he blows up, and that would be, it's got a really nice corner lot. One story, that's views. - Thank you.

- Yeah, it's tough. - To see our things, Luke Wilson could have been Harris and Ford had us take a word. What do you got? - I think when the Soviet Union fell

that America fell to, like, (laughing) we are clearly capable of doing cool things. But we need a rival, like we need to feel the heat from the other side of the planet. - Right, back to Jordan.

- Right, back to Jordan. - True power, all the way over there, to work against. Which don't do that anymore. We're unfocused, we're unharnest, we're completely uninterested. We've lost the stakes of everything.

I just think we need to do cool things. Again, Kennedy was, like, by the end of the decade, we're making it to the moon, and we did it, not because it's easier because it was hard,

but because it was a race, we decided

we need to fucking win, so challenge. - Yeah. - I just think we need rivals, you know? - Okay. - We spent 30 years running up the score.

- It's really good. - It's really good. - Mine is tangentially related. This movie should just make people respect Elon Muskmore.

You know, he cares about getting into space. - Jesus Christ. - Put some respect in that guy's name. How to stick. - He cares about electric cars.

- Yeah. - That's to the moon. - Yeah. - Communicating?

“- Is he trying to get, is he trying to get to the moon?”

I have to be honest, I have not followed. - SpaceX? - Exactly what he wants to do with space. - SpaceX is just putting sand on it. - Yeah, Mars.

- Mars, Mars. - He's focused on Mars. - Mars. - And Bazaar. - Oh, I'm interested in Mars.

- We just need to get to Mars. - Yeah, let's do it. - What's up? - What's up? - What's up?

- And Bazaar can win. - We do for us. - Yeah, that's what I'm saying. - We say we're going to Mars, and then we're like, we crossed an ocean. We fought for independence, we pioneered the West, we shot ourselves into the sky.

We need boots on Mars for any roads in the rear side. - Yeah. - What do you have for our stick? - I already did mine, too. - Oh, that's why you did your journey.

- Yeah. - Casting what ifs, mentioned costs are, thanks turn down Jumanji. - It's a good decision, sir. - It's a smart move.

“This is, honestly, when I could almost be its own category,”

one of my favorite cast and what ifs, we had no well. Because of his interest in aviation, John Chuvalta asked Howard for the role of Jim Lovell. He was politely turned down. - But would this be before pulp fiction or after?

- Right after, right? - Okay. Well, better than before, did you see John Chuvalta's 60-minute film about aviation that, of course, that can feel festival? It's available.

- Right. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - It's like, I am a pilot. What's it called?

Something like that. It's an adaptation of the children and where young adults book that he himself wrote about a child's first airplane trip. It's really not a movie, but I did watch all of it. And I think they filmed at the TWA Hotel in person.

- We just don't spend enough time talking about how crazy some of our favorite actors are. - What I'm learning is a lot of a certain age love aviation. Like is this a head of all of us? I don't really know.

It's like the last way they can feel alive. Maybe just flipping a plane around. Premier magazine right there, which I read the article about a Paul 13, they said Chuvalta also lost out to add Harris for Jean.

- That's the right decision. - Yeah. - But I'm sure that hurt. - We would have been some good Chuvalta faces, though. I wonder if he would have smoked a little bit

of Chuvalta smokes, so he's clearly never held cigarettes.

John Q. Sack, Patrick, Swazie, Joe, Peshie, and Rick Moranis, the coordinate half-essarin and research. We're all offered the world of Fred and I'll turn it down and went to Bo Pax them. - Okay.

- I don't know if I can fully believe the Joe Peshie as Fred, that one didn't pass the sniff test for me. Joe Peshie's gonna be one of the three astronauts on a Paul 13. - As a cut-up, maybe.

Like the comedic energy, I could tell you. - It seemed like a trauma. - Not in the-- - I can't see him with the haircut. - No, I can't see Rick Moranis either.

“- No, I think Rick Moranis, as Clint Howard,”

like in the control room, would be great. - Yeah. - This one I did believe Brad Pitt offered the world of Jack, but turned it down 'cause it's seven. - I mean, it worked out for everybody.

I think that's the right decision and he would have been too distracting. - Yeah, who didn't work out for? - Who? - What's in the box?

(laughing) What's in the box? Apparently, Valkillma also turned down Jack. - And he was filming the ghost yard. - Yeah, one's also a little too ice-man, but uh.

- I don't know, decent dog come or vehicle. - Sorry. - Would have been sure. - Not in a trade, but Tom X was cast, Ron Howard said, Gary's in his picture part, and he picked Ken, you know.

He liked that one. He said, when I looked at it, I said, I wanna play that guy without him, they won't get back. And then, I don't know if I believe this,

Kelsey Grimmer and Christopher Lloyd turned down Jean.

(laughing)

“- Christopher Lloyd, mid 90s, Christopher Lloyd is Jean.”

- We can't do none of those. - I don't believe that. - Joey Pantsword, for best that guy. - Arkai Todd Luizo is in this. The mani from Jürgen McGuire is in the control room.

- Yeah. - Yeah. - Clint Howard, Lauren Dean. See that guy is here, Lauren Dean. - I think he is.

- Is he that well known? - To me, he's just the detective from Gattica. - And he was, what, Bugsie, one of those. But for me, for my generation, it's Joe Spano, the guy that had Harris side ad, because he was an actual cast member

of the history blues, which was the best TV drama from like 1981, 80. If there's a TV drama championship belt, it has it for like five years. And he was on that show and they used to say him.

He's like, oh, that guy from most street blues.

But I think the answer is Todd Luizo.

- He's a good one. - And Clint Howard is too well known too. - Thank you, Clint Howard. - Okay. What about, so, Tom?

- There's a couple of others. I don't even know the guy's names. - Well, I mean, to me, all of the control room, it's a bunch of that guy going forward.

“Where I'm like, oh, it's that guy from the control room.”

- Good point. - 'Cause the one guy that kind of looks like Dennis Leary, he's a that guy out of what his name is. - Yeah, sure. - Sure, he's on that side of that, at some point.

- Yeah. - That guy's good. - Oh, that's good. - And then the kind of the handsome guy who's, is working with Jean Harris, and it's like his something

a little sinister about him, but he's holding it in. - Yeah. - I don't know what that guy's name is. Damn, waiters are word. I narrowed it down, Clint Howard, Jim's mom,

and Walter Cronkite. - Okay. - Walter Cronkite, eligible. - Walter Cronkite, that's the show. - I think it's Cronkite.

- Yeah, yeah. - And he's also, so I guess the, is the footage of the science expert that they keep cutting to new or, is that real? - I thought all that TV stuff was old.

- I thought so, but you're a resident scientist. - We're the one who's bringing the materials. - There is a man, yeah, well, when he is sitting there with the blowtorch, I was kind of like, I can't believe that they're allowing

this fake science experiment on live TV in 1970. - I will say as a child of the 70s, whenever these people were on TV, you just completely assume that they knew what they were talking about, and you believe them

100% never doubted their information.

- And you still feel that way today. - No, I do not, I do not. This somehow probably turned nearby the end of the 80s. - Okay. - But in the 70s of one of those people came on, I'm like, yeah, that's some sort of...

- Sorry. - It's Bob, this is what he does. Recast and couch director, city. I have a really good run for this, but did you guys have anything? Is there anybody who would change?

- Maybe I'm just gene-pilled, but like, what about Gene Hackman for Gene? What if you swap Gene Hackman for Ed Harris? Is he two, is he? - As a gene?

- Is the energy off? Is he like a little too shadowy mysterious nefarious for that part? - Is this, what year is Crimson Tite? - This is before this.

- This is before this. - Where, so he's more... - I'm not gonna say no, Gene Hackman's a bad choice, because I love Gene Hackman.

- Same year, Crimson Tite.

- Oh, it's interesting, oh, okay. I don't know how you feel like that. - I really do love Ed Harris and this though. - I mean, it's a impeccably cast movie, I think, for the most part.

It's hard to find. - I wonder if the bacon one could we have gone one level up from Stardom with that one?

“- I think Brad Pitt is the one level up from Stardom.”

- Yeah, but at this point, it's like 12. - And that's the balance. Like, you need hanks in the center of it. - Can you get in the car with me and test drive? Tom Cruise is Jack.

- Just first, let's go. - Oh, I think we absolutely need you. - You play at a 60's cad? - Yes. - Wow.

- I mean, I say yes to that. - Being Tom Cruise, tell me he could do when you feel the beer bottle sliding just right in monologue. I think the question with him is would you believe

the like crisis of confidence part, the Kevin Tite has? - With Tom Cruise. - He's like scared to flip switches at a certain point. I don't know if I would buy that with Cruise,

but I would just see him getting mad about their we're coming into shallow and I'll just hold my breath and all that stuff. I have one more. - Captain for Jack Ross.

- We already said that we appreciate Catherine Quinlan in this role. Maybe Julianne more as a little too young for it, but I just imagine Julianne more doing. You can take it up with my husband, give me home on Friday.

I would enjoy it. - That's really good. - That's all. - Don't run the game every time you do it somehow. - I have for recasting,

Denzel's character from flight in the Jack in the Kevin Bacon part. - Yeah. - Where he's like, he shows up for the mission, but he's fucking been doing cocaine and having sex all night

and he hasn't slept. - We can do that. - That age too. - And Jim's like the banana boats are coming. - Shade company now big dog.

(laughing) - Come on, we'll shoot her spook around here. - Yeah, we'll grab her. - Oh my God. - Oh my God.

- Craig, you have a flex.

What do you got? - I'm gonna do Todd Parker Ward, best character entrance, but understated edition.

“I really like when they're just like buzz and kneeler here.”

Yeah, you're like, oh shit. I don't need to say the full name. And just like it ups the stakes so much. So the movie like you really feel the weight when they come in the living room sit down

and just cross their arms and watch the screen. You're like, all right. - Okay, this is James 7. - Those guys are so fucking cool. There's that video of Buzz Aldrin,

punching the guy when he's old. When Buzz is old, then that guy's harassing him and Buzz's like cold, comfortable. It's the best. It's like, what?

- 'Cause he was a moon landing tonight, right? - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah. - Half-ess in a research, we mentioned Spielberg.

They filmed for four hours, basically,

and the zero-g, doing zero-g movers, which sounds, I mean, the Odyssey is a 10 out of 10 for what sounds like the worst shoot. - Yeah. - Being on the boat and stuff.

This sounds like a nine and a half. - So this was that, so they would take off in the quote-unquote crime and crime. - The crime and crime. - Fly around, and then I had like 20, 25 seconds of zero-g.

- They should then on top of four hours. - That sounds a lot. Sounds a lot easier just to do 10 going cash. The universal studio, they had two life-size rep because of the command module and the lunar module.

They lowered the spaceship stuff to 38 degrees, so it was really that cold in there. - Okay. - The splashdown sequence at the end, when they rescue hangs,

where do you think that took place? - I know the answer, so. - Where do you think that took place? Santa Barbara, where is it? - San Diego.

- A large artificial lake on the universal line. - No way. - I know, but now I really wanna go find the lake.

“- Where is the artificial lake on the universal line?”

- Like behind Bates Motel, which is still there. - I wanna check it out. - Okay. Is that on the tour? - I don't know, that job is based out of the artificial lake.

- See, Jim being rescued. Oh, the E would Gima, USS E would Gima. But did not exist anymore, made it up all 13, so they had to use, its sister ship, the New Orleans.

- Okay. And then, bacon was in the oral history, it was raving about when they all went to US space camp. House, smart, hangs was, and he said billpacks do, but really hanks,

like learning all this stuff, and he was like, "That guy could have flown a fucking rocket." Like, hanks was like, "Just absorbing everything, like an absolute maniac." - I mean, he really clearly wants to be an astronaut.

- Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, and they were taught all these things. They really wanted them to be like the buttons, secondhand, so it felt real, and hanks took it seriously. - Not like Tom Cruise learning how to flip bare bottles

and cocktail, but close. - Close, right. - I had one that blew my mind, which is, I didn't, it really crystallized for me until watching it this time, that this movie invented the phrase failure is not an option, like, to agree that Jean Crane's

the actual guy who ran mission control became so associated

with him, he never said it.

It was something that came up as they were talking to other mission control people researching for this movie, and someone just kind of mentioned it offhand, like, basically the vibe was failure, it's not an option, but it was not a phrase in the lexicon.

It became so associated with Jean Crane's, he titled his own book, something he did not say, failure is not an option. - I mean, pretty insane, it's a good branding. - I think you go, like, yeah, I did say,

I think I did say that, yeah, I did say it offhand somewhere

“in there. - I kind of vaguely remember that.”

- But they have the transcripts. - Right. - So, then you get out of it as a liar, and that's-- - That's just the menu.

- I remember saying this up, I wrote it down. - It's, I think it's cooler just to say, hey, that's a good line, I accept. - Well, I was one of the things in the half-ass was, Jean is the only person in charge of everything

in the showroom for, however many days, and there was another guy named Glenn Lennie,

who was the second team, and he's just basically not,

and it Glenn got the shaft. Marilyn and Leville really did lose her ring down the drain, but she found it. - Okay, good. How do we know?

- What are you supposed to drain that? - You do in that situation. - Pull the drain up, but a lot of those hotel ones, they don't even have, like, you can't even pull it up. - I don't even, I don't want to. - You might just want to leave it down there at that point.

- This is my favorite one, though. Kevin Bacon has now played a character named Jack in Frost, Nixon. My dog's skip, Paul 13, few good men, quicks over, and Friday at 13th,

and then put Jackie on City of the Hill. Oh my God. - So seven jacks or jackies, some guessing is the record. And Jack was a name that didn't, like, I didn't go to college or high school with any jacks.

- It's back now. - Jack is a back. Jack has been back for 15 years. - Yeah. - And back even in LA where you don't meet a Chris or something.

- There's so many jacks. - You're saying there's a young actor out there. Jacob Ballori could some, they played 12 jacks,

Could take the title from Bacon.

- Kevin Bacon, seven jack.

That's the record, seven jacks. - Apex Mountain. - Hanks might, this might be it. - Is it?

“- It just depends on where you would vote in that sweet spot, right?”

We're there. - He also has Toy Story this year. - It's, we're here. - Tom Hanks's Apex Mountain is bigger than the other mountains. - Okay.

- He's just way up there for a while. - Yeah. - But it's somewhere between-- - That's like several summits. - Somewhere between, when in the Asker for Forest Gump,

but then filming this movie and voicing Toy Story, I think it's probably right there. - Okay. - I think filming this movie was Apex Mountain. - Counterpoint is Apex Mountain

for Hanks really having the juice to be like, I shall do Lady Killers. You know, like, the like, no one can say no to me, point in his career. - Well, that's done, saving private ride by that.

When he's done, like, not only this, but that thing he do. - Yeah. - And all the time. - I've done the future of directing it.

- Should we sing it for you now? - Yeah. (laughs) - But he's like, I'm doing this, and I'm going to direct it. And they're like, okay, Tom Hanks.

- You know who I'm talking about? - It all sounds great. - It all sounds great. - It all sounds great. - It all sounds great.

- It all sounds great. - It all sounds great. - And that thing, you do? Your girl, Charlize. - Mm-hmm.

- How do you like that mouse? - Yeah.

“- I wouldn't say she comes off great at it, I don't know.”

- No, but she's used well. - Just an icon. (laughs) - Run Howard Apex Mountain? Probably beautiful mind?

- Me, I guess so. - Probably for the acclaim alone. - Sinis, we're in the mix right here with him. - Yeah. - It's all going to lead some day to him doing nine years

of CSI. - I'm living a great life. - It's like, what's that blood pattern? Kevin Bacon, I don't know what his identity. - Yeah.

- It's probably in the 80's, it's probably like Footloose. That sets up like the next 40 years. - I think that makes sense. Houston? I thought about the city of Houston.

The only other thing I came up with for Houston is 1981, which is when Houston gave us Beyonce. Is that the only competitive point in time? - 1981, he used to made the finals in the NBA. - Okay.

- But this is also when they wanted the oilers. - Right, so Apollo 13, Houston, we got to have a problem. Coinsiding with the rockets winning back to back basically. - That's the answer. - Is that it?

- Rockets win. They've lost the oilers though. - You think the rockets should incorporate more space themes to their jerseys and stuff? - They're starting to bring it back.

They're bringing it back, they have like a little astronaut all to now. - They got some stuff going on. - Rollerball, which is up there somewhere. - That team was in Houston too.

- Oh. - The team from Rollerball, the team from Rollerball in the future, the set in Houston, something about Houston in the future and space. - Yeah.

- And then you go there and it's just highways and everything is an hour from everything else. - Yeah. - Ed Harris? - Mm.

- He is Oscar nominated.

- He's having an incredible 90s run here

'cause the firm is in the rock, like he's just-- - Yeah. - He's in China moon with Madeline Stone. - Is he nominated for Truman Show? - If he wasn't, it was a travesty.

- Can't remember, even though we could be a great brewery. - Yeah, yeah. - It's just impeccable work, but somewhere between here and Truman Show, I don't know where.

- Kathleen Quinlan. - Yeah, she's got that out there for us, yeah. Brian Grazer, producer, this has a Brian Grazer production at the beginning instead of imagine. So maybe, space movies?

- I don't think you're doing it. - Yeah, I don't think so. I mean, Star Wars 2001-- - Yeah, you had Steven Spielberg here talking about, which chair did Steven sit in?

In mine? Oh my God. (laughing) - Excuse me, Mr. Spielberg. - No, I'm not on her first name basis.

- And that Rob sat in the seat when Sean had the criteria or a guy's name? - Great. - That's Steven. - Did you get this longer or do I need to get up?

- And Sean just like all this vertebrae just collapsed and was back. - I had a joint commentary orgasm together. - It was amazing. - It was amazing.

- It was amazing. - It's very rare. - It's unbelievable.

I've never seen a human react like Sean did.

It was amazing. - American idealism, apex bone? - I think I made the pitch. - American ingenuity. - Yeah.

- Wait, is it in '95 or in 1970? - 1970. - Oh. - In '95 or grasping at it? - Yeah.

- We're like trying to hold on and it's already gone. - '95 or moving more toward Monica Lewinsky and Howard Stern private parts and Jerry Springer. - Cruiser Hanks. - Oh, thanks.

- Thanks, yeah.

“- Well, you already made the case for just why not both?”

Why not put Cruisen for bacon? - I like Jack. - Would have been fun. - Fortune three clap award for best gifable moment. I think it's Harris collapsing after they make

it. - Oh, really? - Well, for the-- - Yeah. - Like Miami trades for Yonnex and you do the Ed Harris.

- Well, it's true.

- Claps back.

- When I read this on the doc not having

“re-watched the movie, that is what I thought.”

But I forgot that it cuts away from him for a second

and then it goes back to an incredible gif of him

doing a double thumbs up, straight to the camera. - Which, if that's not a meme. I mean, that seems like a real like Leo and Gatsby champagne glass, you know, just double thumbs. Very good.

- All thumbs up is within our power to make happen. - Yeah. - But is also is this not choosing we have a problem with the subtitle? Is that not just the gif of the world?

- We're just the gif of the world. - We're just the gif of the world. - Because you straight. You don't even need the subtitle. - That's true.

- You know, we didn't realize this. - There's a Cineza, a quiet fist bump that he does too. - Okay. - I could be in there. - Champagne, I brought my own pack award.

(laughing) Excellent, senon, screen, smoke and I just want to honor it here. - Okay. - Yeah. - I found those real cigarettes.

“But do you want to use the clothes, cinnamon ones, he's like, fuck, no, me, isn't the real one?”

- I thought about the, who was made hotter by smoking award for this movie for all of the dudes in the control room, who like, chair. - Kind of have a little aura going on just by, like, I mean, yeah. - They're doing math for 90% of the movie and then they just get to, like, rip ice for no reason.

- Big cigars at the end, the cigars at the end are great. - Pickin' it, speaking of cigarette smoking, not enough. - This is 1770. - Everybody in that control room smoking. When they're cut into the house, I think everybody's at the kids are fucking smoking.

They, it's just like a smoke fest. - Right, in 95, what was, what were the rules in terms of reading? - I think Ron Howard was just trying to be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - There's a lot of, like, people just putting a cigarette out, or people lighting a cigarette, but not actually smoking the cigarette.

So, you mentioned the fillers, not an option. And the Houston, we've had a problem, and then people were upset that they had astronauts arguing in the spaceship. - Right. - You real astronauts were like, what the fuck?

We would never argue like that.

That was it, yeah, that was an epics. - Can I add one parent? - Please do. - Letting the smallest child watch the live broadcast where you don't know whether your husband

is coming back from space. - That's a telephone. - I don't know. - He's very young. - How old is that kid?

- I didn't stand, I mean, four, maybe four. - I'm not the one to ask, 'cause we took Ben to the Michael Myers where he murdered everybody in the last 45 minutes out, we didn't put a mask on him when he was like three. - That's different, that's not your own, your own dad.

And I listen, I know it's like in parenting Vogue to not hide children from their feelings and they're supposed to feel all this stuff. And like everyone else in the house is there. You're gonna have to tell him at some point,

but it's essentially like letting your four-year-old watch his own father snuff film.

If it doesn't get out, that's like not a memory he wants to have.

Just my take, also Mary Hayes, they have babies, like two and three-year-olds, and they're all just sitting there all in front of the TV. - She got the shaft in this movie. - Yeah, stuff.

- Like one scene, it hurt just in the bedroom. - She just gets to be pregnant and have a still photo. - Yeah. - I had one other knit, which is when everyone's getting together for that emergency landing that all the kids are inexplicably at,

these two women are walking through the kitchen and they drop a bowl of salad. And like 10% of the salad falls out of the floor. - Yeah, yeah. - And they just started putting it back.

- Yep, yep, yep. - And this is how the parasite started. - 1970, sequel prequel prestige TV, all by a castron touchable, the test to be untouchable. - Untouchable.

- Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, forget the floor is saying low, Robert Evans, Dr. Charles Nichols, anyone else? Are we allowed to do this without Chris? - Well, yeah, I was just going to--

- I'm happy to skip. - No, no, I mean, I feel-- - I'm also happy to do Barney from the Vanishing or any other imitation I have. - Chris Ryan does love this movie and she's not with us.

It would be funny to hear him doing Wayne Jenkins as an astronaut. I like I do think that that could work. - Wouldn't it? - When, like, Jack lands the plane?

- Yeah. - God damn, Jack! - Just want to ask her who gets it, the movie? For Best Picture? - Thanks.

- So you go hangs over the movie? - I mean, I have to lean into my hot take, but I'd be happy if it were the movie. Just one is not allowed. - I would say the movie.

- Movie is good, hangs is good. I also think a adapted screen play. I'm not here to take anything away from Emma Thompson, but we talked all about the immortal lines that have come out of this movie.

There's so many smart adaptive choices. There's so many smart ways that this is like turning. A bunch of guys politely arguing in a space shuttle into actual high drama.

“I think the screen play is kind of awesome.”

But if you have to pick one, I will take Best Picture as well. If Braveheart is the competition, sign me up. - Yes, okay. You've sold me.

- I want, so Braveheart's stuff 'cause it's hard to separate the mogebson. Why, no, why? I'm doing that for a van, but the mogebson of that movie and if mogebson just has a very normal last 20 years

Would be like Braveheart, fucking fun.

Or did that hurt Braveheart at all?

I have no idea. - Braveheart's just not as much my flavor. Like how much medieval heads chopped off

“do we need to get or spend task on meeting all of them?”

- These should be with Braveheart as I feel like thrones and some of those other stuff that did some of these battle sequences at a whole higher level. - Yes. - So I watch Braveheart now, it feels very 1995 to me,

it's still like it. I didn't really have any problem and answerable questions other than did this movie have the most white actors who was speaking part of the last 35 years. It's like a hundred white guys with at least one line.

- I have a more existential one. - Yeah. - It's really more about your view of the butterfly theory than about this movie, but so if Ken Maddingley did not get grounded, if he's the one flipping the switch,

do you believe, does it go down the same way? Or do you think that the universe flips it? - No, one small change to an ocean of whatever. - And that led to the oxygen tank, freaking. - We do this a basketball constantly with shots

that went in or didn't go in. - Right, right, right, right. If it goes in and then what else? - I think that they set at the end that the thing had a two year issue that it would open.

- The question is would he have to like what Paxton's point is raising this movie?

“Did he look at the gauge before he flipped the switch?”

And very cunningly, we don't see what he looks at. Like they kind of cut away, they come back to it. We just see him flip the switch. Would Ken have caught it if there was some weirdness going on before he stirred the time?

- Was Ken the best of the four astronauts is another, and it's a very good job. - Yeah, I don't know. But we think Jim Level was, Jim Level was back up for Neil Armstrong to Apollo 11.

- True, but he wasn't Neil Armstrong. He's still a backup, you know. - My other answer was if Cameron had wanted to do this movie instead of run hour, it is a better. - It's definitely different, and I think he's way more

interested in the inside the ship and everything that's going on in there. - Yeah, he is usually not content to let action speak for themselves. He does, in fact, need to tell you also what they mean.

So I think his script would be pretty different or probably even we can have. - He wouldn't have opened the transcript that I don't know. - I think Ron Farron was the right director. - Yeah, I think he was.

“- 'Cause he's like, I want to do this perfectly.”

I want to obey the history. We gotta get the transcripts right. - Yeah, the stuff in the spacecraft is heightened to a degree that might be like more dramatic, but the stuff at mission control would not be as good

or just wouldn't be in the movie as much. And that's, I mean, you need it, you need the counterbalance.

- 'Cause, you know, the first man, where they really went.

- Yeah. - By the book with it, and it's kind of like, I don't know, kind of a joyless movie. It was good to watch once, but I wouldn't be like, I'm gonna crank the first man tonight.

- I'm gonna do it too. - Not to skip to double feature, but I was gonna suggest first man as the double feature. Mostly in response to all your criticisms of the Kathleen Quinlan character,

not Kathleen Quinlan but the wife character. And first man, you've got Claire Foie, my girl playing Neil Armstrong's wife, and she yells the immortal, you're just a bunch of boys. But, you know, she's pissed off, she's like,

I hope you don't. - Like, you shouldn't go. Like, this is stupid, you're dealing, you know? She's not supportive at all. And then there's that last scene

where the astronauts get quarantined after if they go, which is, I think, another reason that they couldn't extend this movie to the reunion. But they're just staring at each other through that the quarantine glass,

and you know that they're miserable and that going to the moon didn't solve all of his problems or any of his problems. - So, Spakey went and watched first man again, I know.

- I've never actually seen first man.

- Oh, it's horrible. - It's horrible. - It's really wonderful. So, yeah, Ryan Gosling, Damien Chisel. - Yeah. - Some of them make space travel even more improbable

than this does. Like, there's a shot of Gosling in hit the spacecraft as like the screws rattle on the window as they're quite great. - That's interesting. - I just can't fathom how any of this actually worked,

but somehow I love the double feature. - Yeah, and it's a good compliment to like, what does it mean to get to do your thing or not do your, you know, to get to go to the moon or not go to the moon and what does that do?

They're, you know, they're about, we had, we had Damien on my podcast when he was promoted that movie, not video tape, 'cause I didn't video tape anything for three years. My office, like a fucking idiot.

- Yeah, double words, Prada, rewatchables. I thought that. - I thought that. - On video. - So much, not on video 'cause I was like, "No, people are more comfortable if there's not cameras

"but if I can genius, I was." The memorabilia, you'd most want from this movie. - White best. - See, I don't think I could pull off the white vest.

I wonder if I could pull off the gold flight jacket.

Might just be borderline enough

where I could actually rock that thing. So I would love the gold flight jacket. - I like the outfits that we're wearing at the end after they got rescued. I would definitely take one of those suits.

- Okay. - The fight suits.

“- I think the answer is probably gym levels.”

Here's just going for what's the most valuable thing from this movie that you could own from like one of those auction sites. It's gotta be the Tom Hanks movie worn astronauts suit, right? - Yeah.

- That's one, that would be a jaw dropper. I was trying to think of like, there's anything like a little smaller stakes though. Like Gary Sunnisis, sleepless way T-shirt, when he's just fan of beers.

- I was feeling bad for him. - Why should dick cap up? - I've been a tough knight, right? - The beer bottle, you know, that he had the whole system, maybe maybe. - This is a tough dick cap of cameo where it's like,

Ken's hit the lowest point of his life. He's drinking beer by himself, why should dick cap it? Well, the bid is like about being a peeping Tom

in New York City of the summer basically.

- Right. - And then also he tries to make jokes about Jack's wife. - Swagger it, but Ken, I remember his name. - Yeah. - Where they're going.

- It's what you're right. - He's with this, yeah. Coach Finstack, Mr. Maggie, we're best for his life lesson. Let's work the problem.

- I was opening my phone to read that quote to you. - How about your greatest disaster as moments away from being your finest, or is seconds away from being your finest moment? The whole like, if we just get this one thing right at the end,

it can invert everything and flip just like that.

“- That's what Bill Chism said to Brad Stephens”

says he was improving the jail and brown trade. - They should have let him down the breast conference. - I can't, we can't bring this up right now. I'm not ready for six or six. - No, you're not ready.

- We might do a couple. We might do a little sports thing after we finished filming. So I'm holding your thoughts. - Okay. - My double feature choice was gravity with Sandra Book.

- Sure. - What do you have? - I did the Martian, another like problem. - Another problem. - Yeah.

- Speaking of work the problem. How do we work the problem? How do you get food? How do you get oxygen? How do you get rid of CO2?

It's like it's all the same stuff. Follow over again. - Who in the movie? - Thanks. - Thanks.

- Craig. - Double feature, Rocky 4, which kind of lean in. - Funk rush. - Eric. - Oh, yeah.

- Craig gets it. - Double win. I hadn't seen this in probably 10, 15 years. And it aged so well. It's just like a warm hug.

I don't know if it's just like where we are now. It was like the 70s or 1970s was like, like you guys were saying like depicting American idealism. And then even like mid 90s in Hollywood, the fact that they like,

I didn't know that thing about the Universal Lake, but they filmed this whole movie in LA. They like built all the sets in LA. You have like Tom Hanks, Ron Howard, making a space movie in LA, like with your bare hands,

the whole movie's just wonderful and feels incredibly warm. For the last hour, I stood up. Like I was watching the nicks come back, like I was standing up, just pacing back and forth. I knew how the movie ended.

It fully hits in his age so well. It's aged even better now. I don't know if it's not I'm getting older, but like, you know the tropey stuff with the wife and the kids, I'm like,

kind of hit for me this time. I remember not really liking it. Was it the door? - I know the sun around like the door is magic. - There's a three minutes when they're re-entering

and it's cutting back and forth to the family and it gets past three minutes. - Yeah, it's like 330, 340, no one wants to say it. - Four minutes, yeah. - I have a re-appreciation for Tom Hanks,

watching this movie too. - Yeah.

“- I remember how Tom Hanks now, it's just wonderful.”

- Yeah, this movie's aged really well. I like it the most I've ever liked it, like in the last couple of years. - It's just I like it. - But for a bunch of different reasons.

I was never like, oh, Paolo, I love it,

but I always respected it. But now, I don't know. - Space camp one. - The ringer's face camp, 15 year anniversary. Yeah, who is Tom Hanks now?

- We don't have, like... - It's kind of a sort of one. It's kind of sort of gasoline, but not really. - Even most of these characters and these parts, we don't really have anymore.

Like the Quinlan part, I was trying to think, like if they made this now, who is that? Is that Carrie Cooon? Is that like who plays a part like that? - Yeah, they do. - But yeah, I mean,

I don't know if the, I can't. - Well, it's gonna put, and I'm going to talk just to us. - I don't know who the Jimmy Stewart is, because we aren't really making movies with this type of warmth, then, an optimism,

even in the face of things going wrong. - Or we are, but there's still Tom Hanks somehow. - Yeah, things are just going wrong all the time, and everybody is trying to scam their way through it. - Project Hill Mary's probably the right comp right now,

'cause it was gossing, but gossing still, I don't think it's Tom Hanks. - Yeah. - I'll save my thoughts on Project Hill Mary. - Okay. - It was fine.

- Okay. - Yeah, I'll save your thoughts. - That's one where it needed to end for 30 minutes before, and needed to end as soon as he opened, as soon as he and Rocky saw each other, and the ship. - That's the ending.

- And then if you have any of the reunion stuff, and now I'm black on the planet, you need to know a little rocky season, and Sandra Hooler is like old and saying,

"Thank you, you know, or amazemaze, or whatever.

It's just, it's just, it's just a whole key for me,

the whole move. - I agree. - I had a great time, but yeah,

“we don't need to see the classroom of real children.”

We definitely did not. - I didn't see it in the theater, so I want to have that caveat, I saw it at home. It ended in my wife looked at me and said, "That was some corny bullshit." - It was nice, but the corny bullshit.

- Listen, the last 20 minutes are crazy corny, which is why I respect Apollo 13 for ending when it does. - Yeah. - You don't need the extra icing on top. - It's probably the most millennial movies ever made. - That is true.

- But in 30 years, we're gonna be doing every watchable's for it, so I look forward to it. - The puppet stuff is good, it's good. - The problem now is instead of making movies like this, we make movies, these two movies I like that I'm about to say,

but we make movies like the drama and the invite. - That's part of the creativity is moving on. - And that's just, people are less interested in making a movie like Apollo 13. - That is true.

- On Howard now it would be like, I wanna make the invite.

- Well, I don't wanna do that. - I don't think he or anyone else could get the budget to make Apollo 13, nor would they be able - Well, absolutely. - Well, I could do it.

- It would just be all CGI. - Say what you want about the movies, 'cause I agree with you about Projectile Mary. Is it making Projectile Mary the current version of making Apollo 13?

- Yeah, but it's the most millennial annoying movie ever. I agree, and I'm a millennial. - Well, I'm sure there was a-- - I liked it.

“- I think I even teared up with the rock, you know,”

listen, I'm a mark for Ryan Gosling being charming, and I guess Ryan Gosling comp is right in that he's both, he's playing the role, and much of that movie's charm is him reacting quietly to a puppet. - Yeah, it's hanging with Ryan Gosling,

as he's surrounded by goofy dumb shit. - Yeah, but now he's doing Star Wars and he's doing another thing, and-- - Like, to be in the Martian was so much better than Projectile Mary, I can't even believe

it would be compared to the show. - I think it's true, though, I-- - No, but I just thought the Martian was a better movie, like it's more ambitious, I don't know. - Well, I went back and rewatched it though.

I had forgotten how corny some of the jokes are in the Martian, like let's science the shit out of this, which listen, Matt Damon can, can do no wrong in my book. I'm a huge fan, but I was like, oh, this is of its general-- - What is it?

- It's the Martian. - It's the Martian, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - But he spends, it's Matt Damon planting potatoes and being a vlogger.

- Yeah. - Two hours, right? - It's a really good movie, but it is corny. - A lot of new drugs that are kind of hokey completely. - Luckily, I'm the best botanist alive.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - For all this planet, it's a lot of that stuff. - You know how easy this is for me? It's a fucking joke, now I'm sorry you can't do this. I really am, David's the best.

- Retainer. - Come to the Damon side of Damon versus Leo. - This is why it's so hard for shit. - Oh, I'm really on the Damon side. - I know, I know, I know, no, that's nuts. - It's so obvious, Leo.

- This is ridiculous, this is just more stressful. - Yeah. - You also like when you value Joe L. and Beads 40 games a year over the guys who play 72 days. - It's not like Leo is load managing.

The guy's made a ton of-- - He's load managing, he's one a year. - Damon's like taking chances. - Damon's like, yeah, we bought a series. - Damon's crew, I'll try it.

- Yeah, and you don't even like the ocean. - She has to be so much. - And she's got those on the roster. It's okay, that's fine. - You don't like the ocean's movement though.

- No, I like, I like one. I like the 11 is, yeah, I really like that. - But he didn't do that. - He didn't do the rewatchable. - I didn't like 12.

- Yeah, and then-- - No, I like the 11. I just passed it off. That was early in the rewatchable session. - That's true, and then you made us do 12

for flawed rewatchables, which I was offended by,

“because I think 12 is the second best sequel ever made.”

- 12 is gone on the other part too, 12 pretty flawed. - No, I wasn't in four weddings in a funeral. That's Matt Damon line. When they have Julia Roberts pretend to be Julia Roberts, and it's good stuff, it's revisited it.

- Yeah, but Project Hill Mary is the corny one. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it, it's cool. - Keep leaving, that would've thought you would've not like Project Hill Mary like it.

- I can't help it, like I'm clutching for some optimism as much as anybody. I want to be intrigued by the stars and the power of friendship with Iraq. - I think the Elon autobiography movie

is gonna be awesome, can't wait to see you play some. Elon's race to get us to Mars.

We needed to hear a, we finally found one.

And his 17 kids are watching. Let's try to get us to another planet. On that note, Craig Goroback, I have, thank you. Robin Honer, great to see you, Amanda, great to see you. - Thank you for having me.

- Thank you for having me. - Thank you. - Thanks for suggesting this, thanks for pushing. - Thank you for a true pleasure. - Thank you for not giving it away.

I'm really happy to be here. - And thanks to Tom Hanks, good to see you guys. (upbeat music)

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