Pacific Heights’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Kyle Brandt

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USA will still be alive. Let's hope. We'll be like, "Holy shit! We got through the groups." Kyle Brandt's here. Hi, Bob.

You said you have an announcement. What do you got? I do. I have an announcement that affects us all. I was listening to the Mailbag episode of this very podcast.

And there was a gentleman who had a grievance with you and Mead Bill. And then in the wake of that grievance, Chris Ryan had a solution to the grievance. And we even have the clip. If you wouldn't mind Craig Horbach,

play the clip to remind the listeners. How do you and Kyle Brandt sleep at night? Knowing you failed to choose the storm family portrait as the piece of memorabilia you'd keep from art to kill on 1990. It's seen early in the movie,

right before Felicia Storm was brutally murdered during 4-Pode Basin and before their son Sonny escapes. See a touch. As pennants, please do an episode and undead the grant. So he sent a picture.

And this is the show. I didn't notice it. I apologize. I don't apologize, I don't apologize as well. This is amazing.

I can't believe they did this. I'll tell you what you guys should do. That's Sharon Stone, I think. To make up for this,

“you should get those made into t-shirts and wear them the next time you encounter.”

Oh, no. I feel like Kyle is crazy enough for there's no football right now. He's going to show up on a rewatchable with the storm family portrait on there. You appreciate the feedback. We listen.

We're always trying to pay attention.

Anytime I can make the show better and ladies and gentlemen, I'm thrilled to tell you. We got him. We got him. We got him.

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who is mean mugging the artist who is painted a family portrait. Yeah. You just love to see it. And guys, I got him coming your way too. I'm so grateful.

It's also Mason Storm. Watching himself commit to foreplay with his wife. You know, like it's, it's a study meditactual commentary on family and sexuality. And now you have it as a t-shirt. It's a t-shirt.

This is a person pod. Here it is, guys.

“So they're going to be joining us for Pacific Heights.”

Mason Storm is talking real estate. We got it. So is that supposed to be Sharon Stone? No, it's Felicia Storm. I don't think it's Sharon Stone.

Yes. He's looking at those.

Great looking wife who got shotgun to death in the first act.

Unbelievable stuff. And thank you. It's going to be hard for me to concentrate on the podcast. I know. And yes.

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See you tomorrow for all we know. The USA might be in the final four by the time it's going to happen. But I told Kyle Brandt the premise. I told him some of the movies. And he basically looked at me and he said.

When Pacific Heights is ready. Yes. I'm there. Why? What is it about this movie?

Well, Bill. I don't know. Whether you realize this or not. You referenced this movie over the years on this pod. Here and there.

Yeah. Connected to Keaton connected to this. That it'll come up. And every time you do almost like, "Oh, I'll be great to do Pacific Heights pod." And then recently, you were listing the movies for for how month.

And the second you said Pacific Heights. See our goes, "Ooh, that's the one I want to do." Because of course, he's a man of taste. And I think for me, it's just the rare, rare, zillothriller.

And I remember it making a big impression on me as a kid. Despite having no knowledge of real estate law or renters rights.

“And I think it's because it was fully evil, Michael Keaton immediately in the wake of Batman.”

He decides to do dark money pit. And I just remember thinking that was so cool. And I love this movie. And I don't know how big the audience is. But every time it hits for me and the rewatch was great.

This is a crazy one that was on cable constantly. When I turned this on to rewatch it, I was like, I kind of don't need to do this. I have this movie committed to memory. I remember so many nuances of Keaton's performance specifically. Yeah.

Who's kind of in this movie like Hannibal Lecter? Were you going to play with a razor blade during this part or now? Just kind of move it around. I don't know what it's like. I don't know what it's like.

But you know, this one has been kind of lost to history a little bit. I don't even know. It goes in and out of streaming services. It's not constantly on.

I don't think it's had any kind of like critical real valuation.

But it is a rollicking, you know, what is it? Hundred-minute long throw ride. Ten of from hell. New York Times described it as an eviction thriller. Yeah.

Which I think might be the only one of it's kind. I saw this in the theater. It's a great date movie. It's both scary and that scary at all. I watched it with my wife this weekend.

She loved it.

“It's incredibly fun to make fun of Drake Goodman played by Matthew Maudine.”

We'll get into it with a lot of thoughts. But stuff like tremendous San Francisco movie. We talked about this during the Basic Instinct podcast. This like early 90s San Francisco. Great job.

See, how could jazz at one point? It's put hills. It's put hills. It is. Yeah.

They were puttero. It's Puttero Hill. Puttero. My God.

The corner of 19th and Texas.

Okay. So fun and Pacific Heights. But great San Francisco movie. It's right. Right is this from Hell thing is taken off.

We talked about the peaks 92. But fatal traction lays the tea leaves for something like this. And then as as cop pointed out. Kind of a tremendous. I learned something movie.

I didn't know anything about tenant rights, evictions. What the laws were. Yeah. What I could get away with when I was a tenant someday. That's your hand, your hand, man.

This is like the pain that's in the face. Did they take money from you to posit? Nope. Well, you're still in. You're good.

Not yourself out.

“I think California has more lenient tenant rights than other states.”

But I did later in my life.

Like when I was in my late teens early 20s.

I lived in a house in Boston where the landlord died. And we just stopped paying rent. Wow. For like a full year. And then the widow was like, what's up with you guys?

Like you haven't paid rent in a year. And we were like, well, nobody asked. You know? And but it was like, there was, there was a whole process where it was like, It was going to be impossible to get us out.

And that widow was bankrupt. Because these brat kids didn't pay her dead husbands of rent. She's a CR. Just, just skating. No big deal.

That's like better than illegal cable. That's crap. Really? Well, free rent. To that point though, like what I watched it now is an adult.

What freaks me out is like, I'm not afraid of Freddie Kruger. I'm not afraid of going in a dark basement. I'm terrified of systems that I can't navigate. And that the teeth of bureaucracy sink in,

Whether it's HOA, IRS, whatever it is, Getting it's teeth into me. And I can't protect my family, Especially since in this movie, The couple, they throw it all in on this house.

Like the great American dream. This is our future. It's an investment. And it's being taken from them. Really relatable.

And very, very scary in a way that like a slasher movie is not. And also, there's very few movies that shape your perspective. Completely. You could be on the Carter Hay side, or you could be on the Modi,

and known as Griffithson. There are people who are on the Carter Hay side. Well, just like, I don't have enough money to pull off rent in this place, but I'm in and I'm just going to fuck it.

Like, that's like the worst case scenario, right? This is like a pretty evil guy. But there's been, I remember like, When I lived in Charleston, we had a really, really huge party and got in trouble with the landlord.

And I did kind of be like, You know what, what's he going to do? (laughter) I got six months left to waste that they're from Pacific Heights. There's a whole process here.

We worked it out with the landlord, but you know, you kind of put the chest out. It's like you think you better than me. (laughter) We can't have a party.

And what's nuts is that, here's that moment when after, after Carter Hay's gets beat up in the cop comes, and the cop holds like a legal class right there on the sidewalk and where Drake is like,

"He's going to write to be here." And the cop's like, "When he's in, he's got rights." And he's just schooling modies,

That's the crux of the movie. And by the way, when we get to the overact in a war, like modeen, five different times.

And considering the fact that he's going up against Keaton here, who's just like, (laughter) he's throwing 103, he's Ms. Rausky at the end of this game. Yeah, like it's,

oh, Ms. Rausky referenced it. I saw him lie on Friday night. She didn't kiss. You went to that game? Yeah.

I think he's one hitter? It was amazing. Oh my God. Oh, that's great. When you,

what happened after you left the real world Chicago?

“Did you have a place to go or you have to move back home?”

No, I almost immediately moved to Franklin Avenue at the base of Runion Canyon, like by the Magic Hotel, like right there. Oh, yeah.

That's an umbrella. I like that.

Yeah, so I got my first apartment.

Had a roommate. It was $1,400 a month. I paid $700 a month. And I lived there for like a couple of years. You could have done the Carter Hayes on the real world.

Yeah. But like, all right, it's move out day. It's like, is it? (laughter) I don't know.

Oh, sorry, guys. My stuff's here. Is it move out day? Me and the niece are just going to stay for a while. We've been here for four months.

And we're going to get Tanya to stay through. And we're just going to keep finding out what happens. We stopped in polite. Great idea, though. I was kind of thinking that,

there was a story going around about Carl Anthony Towns. When he got trader from the timber wolves was like, they gave me 10 minutes to pack up like nine years of stuff. Yeah. And I was like, there would be a whole new Pacific Heights twist

of people moving into athletes houses after they just got traded and being like, I'm not leaving. But you're like, you know, cats, cat squatter. (laughter) Sure.

Yeah, what if cat just never left Minnesota?

That's right. It's like, nah. I'm good. Yeah. You know, like, I know the trade legally happened.

Craig, do you have a terrible tenant story? When I lived in Brooklyn, I year after college, we had a true slum lord. Like, our place was a complete piece of shit. And we eventually stopped paying rent

and realized there's nothing this guy can do. So we didn't pay rent for probably the last three months. Did he do anything to harass you back? He threatened us. And we said, like, we'll get a lawyer and he never responded.

We never saw the guy in person. We went to his office. It was always closed every time we came by. So we just stopped paying. This is what happened.

But that's New York. I think in, like, Florida and Texas, it's a lot harder for the tenant. Yeah, yeah. The other way to think about this movie is,

I think it's a 101. Because you think, like, there's been, 75, we did hand the rocks a cradle. Yeah. 75 versus that movie with the naming comes in.

Oh, she's going to try to rope in the dad and, wait, all the, the mistress from hell, that's a, that's, I don't remember another tenant or a fiction from hell, right? Well, this could be, I mean,

it would be so fun to remake this for Airbnb now. Yeah. And to be like, oh, yeah, you know, because, like, they've made some Airbnb horror movies

“like the, um, I think it was the rental from a couple years ago”

with Dave Franco. Oh, I kind of liked that movie too. And he directed that. But they haven't made a, I, Airbnb, my, my house during the World Cup,

and now the guy won't leave. Like, that's, that's sitting right there. And he's with seven people from Scott. (laughter) I think he's speaking about John McGin.

And they just keep singing songs, porn bearer and each other. (laughter) This was another thing I love about this movie that for some reason, makes me think of Kyle Brandt every time I see this.

Opening credits from Ladies and Nineties. It starts out James G. Robinson presents. Sure. I don't even know that is. But it just sounded,

there's a certain way. And I just was disappointed that Mustafa Acha. (laughter) I think one of the, I think one of the last board in Creek movies. I don't remember.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think Joe Roth was a part of this.

This was, had a lot of hitters. And it's worth it.

And it's Keaton's first movie after Baton.

Yeah. Let's see, Keaton's not gonna awesome. First movie after Baton. And we talked about him in the past. I love to him in the '80s from,

from the Letterman appearances. Then Knight Shift, which we did with Billy Blaze. Johnny Dangerously Gungho. Beetlejuice. He's a top five letterman guest.

There's a couple of misses in there. Well, clean and sober. Sure. But then Batman in '89. And it was like watching like one of your college buddies

just become one of the biggest stars in the world. It's like really Michael Keaton's gonna be Batman. Yeah.

“He's like closest thing we would have today would be Pratt, right?”

Hmm. How do we even, but Pratt doesn't have like a, I saw him on Letterman a hundred thousand times. It'd be like a Beetlejuice. It became Batman.

By the way, Peter Stranger might be Batman. He's in New York. He's right there. He's tough. I'm still here at a lot of things from the guys in Gotham.

They're very excited about RV Dead's chances as a dirty general. Hey, I talked to the Penguin Bill. His guys love him. They are ready to go to war for him for Gotham. And you know what?

The cold weather is not a problem for the Penguin. We're hearing. And I'll tell you another thing. If the Penguin hadn't gone right there, Sean McVay was ready to take them.

I'm glad you bring up McVay. I haven't mentioned him in 30 seconds. Did you know I'm friends with him? I was at his wedding. He's basically the ridler in disguise.

Peter, you're great. We love him.

Anyway, Batman makes Keaton a massive massive star. It goes from a weight. Why the fuck is this guy? Batman, too. He was actually a great Batman because of the mouth.

Yes. The mouth with the mask. Look great. He did the job. He pulled it off.

What's your next move? It's going to be an eviction thriller, actually. The Matthew Modina. I couldn't find this in the research. Yeah.

Do you guys, because there's a phenomenon of like this is happened to Jennifer Lawrence, who was in Hunger Games. The first thing that comes out is a horror movie that she had shot like three years previous. And they're like from the star of the Hunger Games. Yeah.

I bet he would have paid anything to have that flesh down the toilet. Was Pacific something that he agreed to? No. No. I'm pivoting.

Career man. Career move. I want to be a little bit evil. But the thing is like actors love going evil. This is the best part of the movie.

You don't want the most being part of this movie. You want you want the keep part, right? Well, Chris, the thing is the same thing happened. Chris Hemsworth and a terrible red dawn remake came out after he was Thor. Right.

And they brought that out. But listen, I have a take. Have a hard point too, a lot. Oh, for sure. Like I didn't realize that thought.

Wow. Look at this part of that. Go ahead.

Carter Hayes is Bruce Wayne if he had never gotten the money.

“And I think it's like Thomas and Martha get killed.”

And he turns to crime. All the money goes to charity. He's cunning. He's dashing. He's brilliant.

He likes the blonde women. Let's be honest. There is like a very cheeky moment with that black Porsche where he clicks the thing. And that's like, that's the fucking Batmobile. Yeah.

Like in the driveway. Yeah. Exactly. It. He drives that fancy Mercedes at the end.

That's like the Wayne family car. If Bruce Wayne had never gotten the money. He's Carter Hayes. When he tried to take on that rich widow at the end. He's rolling around.

He's got the Vinex sweater on. He definitely looks like Bruce Wayne at the golf club. Yeah, I've said this in previous pods and it sounds nuts, but Hank's and Keaton were deadlocked for years and years. They were Mahomes of Josh Allen basically.

And Keaton was winning in 1990. Batman was bigger than anything. Hank's did. They were dead even probably going for the same parts where you could have flipped them in different movies.

And by the time we get to forget, this movie was a hit.

And Hank's has bonfire of the vanities basically the same year.

It's a bomb. Yes. And then Melany Griffith. And then the next year of flips and Hank's goes on. His Hank's run.

I think the thing I loved about Keaton is I like him more when he's like this guy or Jackie Brown. Because he could also be the night shift guy. But that you can't be the night shift guy for 20 years, right? Night shift guy is like a five year shelf flip.

I like when there's like a little darkness to Keaton. Yeah.

“And I think being part of an ensemble or being part of a larger cast, right?”

They're being like the only person, it's helpful for him. Like the paper. He's pretty good in. I know that you don't like that movie. But yeah.

Spotlight. Yeah. And spotlight. It's a good example. You know what happened in Spotlight?

They do! We got these guys loose. I missed that. Yeah. Levin here.

Don't you call me ladies? No, it's an underrated. I found this out this weekend because it came up on YouTube. An underrated accent in Spotlight is too cheap. You know, what's he doing in that?

It's like Boston, but I maybe went out of state for school. Yeah. And came back. I went to Tennessee. Yeah.

Came back. We're going to go a lot into some of the interview's Matthew Modeen has given over the years because he's really a one and one. And I honestly a threat to listen this podcast and sense of anger to each other. I love Matthew Modeen.

I love Matthew Modeen. Congratulations on the next. Yeah. And for the last time, one of my favorite movies. Vision Quest we love.

Yeah. And he's back. Stranger things. You have a huge run for your things. Don't think it personally.

I'm in Modeen. And also this part. He does this part very well. Right. Well, we're going to get to that.

He's on the other way. I don't give a shit with Modeen. When he turns off those utilities and does that victory dance. Cringe. Cringe.

Modeen, you can tweet what anything you want. Wow. Come right. Happy. Modeen said about Kyle.

I've been talking to Modeen and he's so excited about this. Some of the stranger things spit off. Yeah. Modeen said about Michael Keaton and one of the many interviews he's given over the years. Michael is a charming and witty man.

So playing that character may be uncomfortable for him. It was so against type. I'm not sure what he did while not on set. He had just done Batman. It was a ginormous success.

So I'd see him on the set and we do our work. And then he disappeared like Bruce Wayne. Mm. And Keaton was just in and out.

“Modeen's like, hey, you want to watch the next game tonight?”

No, no, no, I'm going to dinner. And that was it. Didn't feel like there was a lot of love and gender on this set. But um, yeah. Keaton after this it gets.

It gets a little rocky.

Like he does bat me in the second one.

Uh-huh. We've been with Michelle Fyfer. Yes. And then I don't know. It's, it gets a little rocky for a couple years.

I am DB wise and then hand. Chris, do you like batman returns?

I think the first one's huge for me just because of like seeing the theater and the event of it all.

“But I think it just kind of pails in comparison to the movie.”

Yeah. I don't care for it very much. I just don't think the penguin thing and all that. I just don't think it's very good. And then the shoe marker ones came in and destroyed it.

Right. Batman returns. I don't really like to your point Bill. Like we're talking apex mountain left and right. Like this is like the definition of it for Keaton.

Yeah. Um. Melanie Griffith. This is kind of the tail end for her as a leading actress in a movie. We go from body double, something wild, working girl.

And then she does Pacific Heights bonfire of the vanities this share. And then that's it. She really paid for bonfire of the vanities in a way that really. She was the one. Yeah.

And Willis didn't either. Yeah. Um. The palm of the though. Yep.

This was the last Stanford. And I got to say she's miscast in this movie. But I still like that she's in the movie. If that it's a miscasting that I actually really enjoy. I don't think she's the right person for the movie.

And I never really bought her modem.

But I think that's one of the reasons I like the movie Kyle. But even last time my wife and I were talking about it. We're like, would these two be together? There's a lot of sense. I would.

So this is my favorite part about this movie. Sometimes we'll watch these films that are set in like the early 90s. Up until like maybe turn into the century. And you're like, uh, I feel like all of this stuff would be so different now because of technology. But there's something perfect about a horse instructor or horse riding instructor.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's make it work. You want to throw 750 down on a Victorian?

“You know, like, I don't know, like, how would people vet each other back then?”

How long did you date? You know, they're just two kids like to fuck trying to make it honest. You know, like, it's just. I had this for a later. Like, did he feel like the kites were going to take off in the 90s?

Dude. I mean, like South Korea is going nuts right now. I have it on an answerable questions. Like, does he make fucking kites for a living? He does.

Luxury kite maker right now. It would be like some douche bag you went to high school with on Facebook. And he's like, bit of personal news. New endeavor starting a kite company. Big things coming.

We think it IPO in spring of 28. Early investors, if anyone wants to get out of my kite company. So she, she's a horse instructor with a band name. A question. Yeah.

A question accident. We didn't get to say for some reason. Even though we got 10 minutes of back story. It's like a kid and his doctor couldn't work. Right.

He had. But I need to get an apartment. You're not, you're not even married. Like, the, the big swing for the Victorian. It's just an apartment would be fine.

Right. Maybe you guys get the studio. That's the other way to think about the relationship is like, They, they're filling out the application. It's like marital status.

They look at each other like single. It's like they don't want them really get married. But somehow they went all in on this giant Victorian anyway. Yeah. And she's pregnant at one point.

And he doesn't even seem that excited. No. He just says like congratulations. Like she just got promoted at work. Like, she can't do fuckface.

Yeah. I have a lot of Drake Goodman thoughts. But yeah. No any Griffith. She's at that stage with this.

“Where I think she's probably late 20s real life.”

But in the movie could be anywhere from 25 to 44. Yeah. I would have been. And the age wears. Yeah.

He goes shirtless a couple of times. And Odin still absolutely ripped. Like he looks at. He really raises vision. Two things about their relationship.

They kind of look like brother and sister. And if you know that and watch it, it weird you out. I watched it once a few days ago. And then I did some research, which you probably have built it. Like they weren't necessarily the best friends on set.

Yeah. And I think it went that well. And then I watched the movie again. And it really affects it knowing that they weren't like in each other. It felt the same way.

I watched it.

Did the research watch the second time.

Yeah. And I'm like. Oh yeah. They even when she's like when they're doing the renovation scene. And she's kind of mounting them.

Yeah. Yeah. It just felt like brother. It was like watching the way. And a star was given to her.

Yeah. When she's got the nail gun. There were more chemistry going on. Yeah. That's one of the questions of this movie.

She has a more interesting relationship with Keaton. She's in like two scenes with. Yes. But when she's in the scenes of them, I'm like. Oh yeah.

Yeah. Now we're going. Um. I don't know. Let's look.

She's iconic and body double. She's great in working girl. Working girl. Um. And had, you know, a bevy of personal problem.

She married Don Johnson two different times. She married Antonio Banderas. And she married. Manning from Scarface. It's kind of like those were for marriages.

Those were for marriages. The series after all these years. Well, I feel like she's like a family member for us. Don Johnson. Stephen Bauer and Antonio Banderas.

Three husbands. I'm like, I don't know. I kind of think it should be third-generation. Who just be like, yep, buried him. And then a modeen playing Drake Goodman.

Who I'll just say this now.

He might be the number one dumbass. Yeah. A male or female. I think he's the dumbest. Every decision he makes is wrong.

Um, he escalates in.

I won't point my wife who is half-watching as always.

I just want to tie right on him. It was like, it's almost like you forget you're watching movie. It's like, why is this guys so fucking stupid? Do you ever ask to everything?

“Yes, I think that's a great characteristic.”

Like, I think it's going to be an amazing movie character to just be like, "Oh, this guy is bringing so much grief to himself because he can't control his temper." Can you imagine if he was the rewatchable producer? Yeah. The company is not on the screen yet.

Where is he? I want him out! I want him out! I want him out! Um, wait.

I like it. I have a lot of Jake. I have a lot of Jake good in the thoughts. I, him, him being the dumbest thing in any of the from how movies is, is bold. There's a woman in the good son who drops her own son off a cliff and favorite one of his sons.

Right. That's a big book. Right. But I, I love, um, there's a really brief scene. I know you guys saw it where he shows us a lot of his cards.

And he's a rugby player. Yes. He comes in in the rain. He's got that like blues clues shirt on. And he's like, sorry.

I went to double overtime. Super violent. Most rugby players will be ready to fight and have beers after the game. And really, really dumb. Like my favorite part of the from how movies is not when the from help people go bad.

It's when they're buttering up their marks.

“And the two scenes that one has with with Modene.”

And then it's a very different one with Patty. Modene just sees a few hundred bucks. And he's like, I don't give a shit. Your private trust. Great.

Total idiot. He's actually really smartness moving. Yeah. She does a keep does a lot of stuff. And that scene, which is going to be coming up for most rewatchables.

Yeah. It's like, so you bought this. Who'd you buy this with?

You guys married your first one.

Yeah. Like he's just like pulling information from him. Oh, good. And stupid ass Drake could been who just sees a wallet full of twenty nine hundred dollars. Which by the way, he doesn't give to him.

Nope. Because he's like, I give you this now. Or I could wire you all of it next week. Anytime somebody's like, I could wire it to you next week. I'm like, hey, how about you?

How about you sign the lease and we could. From my bank in San Antonio. What? Yeah. Good.

What was the San Antonio traffic thunder? What is he saying that? Oh, we're going to get some crawfish. San Antonio. Yeah.

Yeah.

“So Drake could been professional luxury kite banker.”

One of the dumbest landlords of all time. Yeah. That's a terrible boyfriend not excited at all for the pregnancy right away. When's the fight? And your alcoholic?

Yeah. It's definitely put down five beers. Yeah. Yeah. He had worse beers.

Yeah. At one point, he gets in a fight with Keaton. They go through the glass door. It gets in some punches. And then Mel and Griffith comes out.

And he, all of a sudden, he's like a five year old kid. Like he collapses in a room. Yeah. I'm sorry. Yeah.

It's like, what are you in the kindergarten? You just fought the school bully. Yeah. Just a complete mess. He has all the traits of a spoiled rich kid except he's not rich.

So what good is it? You're right. The more you watch it, the less you like him. This was kind of the modeen. You know, he would be these quirky cat.

Like vision quests super quirky. I love that movie. I love him in that movie. I think he's great. But like just there's a corkiness about him.

Like he's like, why not? Yeah. It's off-kilter. I don't, there's nobody like him, right? I can't think of another actor.

I can't think of another actor. Now, who is like as off beat is him. Yeah, put in the lead role. You know what I mean? It's like, usually that guy will be like,

I don't like the crisp and glover kind of like, Oh, he's the comic relief for the weird buddy in the weird one. He's often like the main character. He was a team man.

Always seems, and I just think because he looks young.

He always seems three years to young for whatever role he's in. And full metal jacket was that kind of work to his advantage. Yes. But he does birdy vision quest full metal jacket gross anatomy. He's like, consider to be one of the, you know,

one of the best up and coming actors. Yeah. And he's so good in full metal jacket precisely because the way he's delivering his lines in the way everybody in that movie is kind of talking is like, He's like, what is going on? He joker.

We haven't done that one yet. And then after this, he does wind. I like that. A little sailing. I'm not familiar with a wind.

That's an America's cut movie. You'd be familiar if you surf around on to be. I do. I do. I do.

I'm a white squal guy. When it comes to cement. And then my favorite moody, no other than vision quest. I like what squal is is in the band played on. The HP movie about about when the AIDS thing's up.

And he has a great stand up screaming everybody's speech in that movie. How much is enough? How many bodies do we have to bury like it? But it's really good. And it's with him when he goes until you really feel it and enjoy it.

What's your moody?

Because we don't have any.

“You probably think the guy there guy from Dark Knight, right?”

They do. Ten it or whatever. He comes back. Unfortunately it's stranger things. Which is probably pathetic.

But he has like a. There's almost like a crezinski vibe to him when he's young. He's like just a great one. You know what's like. That's who his compass.

He could have existed in a sitcom. His style of acting. I think almost would work that way. He could have done something like that. Good one.

Do you think he should have put out 50 pounds of muscle like crezinski? Or he could have been like Jason Seagull bit. Yeah. Like I see him in shrinking kind of. He's free.

He's built like a swimmer in this movie. He's like, he looks so broad. Talk to him. Cute.

He could have been a superhero.

A couple things about moody and that I find very interesting. Offered Maverick and Top Gun. Offered that before Tom Cruise. Turned it down.

“And he's talked about it since because he disagreed vehemently with the film's Cold War Politics.”

Sure. I get it. Yeah. Which I think. I get it.

I see it. It's just hilarious that four years later. He's in Pacific Heights. And then he's like, I don't agree with the Cold War Politics. But tenet rights.

It's a passion. He plays the defense secretary in secario day of the soldado. So I think he's loosened up. That's true. Where he has Josh Berlin to kidnap a Cartel King's daughter.

So changed his mind there. His interview is a really great. He really offers a lot. This was sort of 1990 L.A. times. Now I feel like he's going to come at us.

I like moody. I don't want to be bad at us. It's fun. I like him too. I feel like he's a friend.

It's like how I'd make fun of a showhouse. Moody and Sunday nights with Ben. Maybe he can come on and do a next thing with you. I would love it. I like boding.

Here's what he says. Say it one more time. I think everybody will believe me. I feel like you grew up with Moody. I think he came up with Moody.

I did. He said, I get it. It's like your husband and I go with him. I like it. I get it.

The reason I was interested in Pacific Heights was that we as a society, call ourselves civilized. And we lived together in community in that community. We make rules where we say we won't take advantage of each other.

We won't think that another individual is taking advantage of us. Try getting the benefit of the doubt.

And there's always some kind of person or group who takes advantage of

the goodness and kindness of the society. And then he goes into talking about divers and echopoco. Really? Yeah. I think he'd be an incredible podcast.

Very eloquent, thoughtful. We active on Twitter. He was just recently tweeting about the pegboard scene was real and vision. I love that.

It's a really cool backstory. He'll tell the stories. He's out there. This movie was written by Daniel Pine based the screen plan. Several stories he heard from tenants and services go pre-internet.

And then it was directed by John Slesinger, who this was the tail end of the career here. Yeah. But he did our beloved marathon man. He did.

Yeah. Did Sunday, buddy. Sunday. He did. He did.

He did. He did. No. This is not. And he did the believers.

I will say that for Slesinger, this movie has, I mean, Sam Peck and Paul did straw dogs in the 70s. But this has like some roots in like some of those 70s movies you would see where it was like nerdy couple. Get taught a lesson about the real world by who I was kind of. Yeah. This is a little bit different.

It's like more of like a sociopathic con man. But it's still like two people starting their lives thinking like, let's just take the plunge and bias of 150,000 Victorian. Yeah. And Carter.

There's some good directing moments in this movie though. Like even Carter Hayes is going to check back in the hotel and they're like, you know, we're credit cards. They weren't worked in your wife. And the cameras like going around him and the chancellor from 9/02 and L for like, it's really

really good. That guy did that for risky business. But it's some good craftsmanship.

“The only thing I wanted to mention that I think is important is this is like right in the”

Yuppie era. Oh. This is we've talked about it. Is it Yuppie? Yeah.

It's a late Yuppie. It's because they filmed this in 89. So we're talking and we talked about during the Wall Street podcast of, you know, greed is good. Mm-hmm.

Let's try to make a buck. It's Reagan's the president. It's how do I become rich? How do I turn a profit? And this was like them trying to buy this building.

It's not like they were stored the building, but they were stored just because it's a chance to maybe make some money from it. And the ending is really interesting when there's this other couple that comes in. They want to buy it. It's like, well, it's $900,000 now and they're going to turn it in.

But there's kind of the mentality back then. And I don't think it's the mentality now. So if you're what, if you're in your 20s and you're watching this now, Craig.

Yuppie leg.

What the fuck's wrong with these people?

The idealism back then was just much more pure than it is now. We're just too cynical now. You know? Well, it was everyone was told you you buy a house. And then it's an airtight investment.

And then you will live it for a long time. And then make a ton of money when you sell it. And you're guaranteed that. And that's what they're doing here.

“Did you guys like when the that last scene you're talking about bill?”

When the that by the way, that guy's that that guy's the dad from Friday lights. Did you find yourself doing the math a lot in this movie? Yeah, I was trying to figure out the finances. But did they put 3% down? I don't know.

But then you could put zero down. You could like, I then they had somebody buying a house for $750,000. But then living month month with the rent. It's like we miss miss one month rent. We could lose this whole thing.

And so I'm not sure how that works when you just fudge the numbers a bit. Everybody does it. Yeah. Yeah. And then they sell it at the end.

We don't know. But maybe somewhere in the high 800s. And they paid mid 70s put at least 50,000 into it. Like they make money for sure, but it's not. It's not.

It's not walk away money. Yeah. No, we're talking about money. No. Weird times.

102 minutes correct. Not bad. Right there. You feel it. Just flies by.

I could actually use maybe two more. I could use a little bit more Beverly DeAngelo. Oh, let's go. Come on. I could use a rugby scene.

There you go. Yeah. I could watch. I could use a lot more Greg. You know, the guy, the guy who's helping him destroy the apartment.

Oh, yeah. I could use the little sexual tension scene between keep and. Yeah. I would have just seen left it on the cutting. We're like he touches her hand.

They look at each other for a moment. He intuitively understands her pain from. We did something there to be like, Oh, he's there. A little bit there. I had this for later in the movie.

I think the movie's miss. He's he goes heal immediately, right? He's in the house. Well, he has the weird guys in there. Yeah.

Yeah. It's like a great recorder's in Seattle. There's no scene where he's kind of charming them in. And he's like, ha, brought you guys a glass one. Well, why don't we have it together.

And then they have a glass of wine. He's got a big room for the bathroom. He kind of looks at her legs. Like we were just missing that. For sure.

It's just a, you know, like shot. It's kind of salve a little bit.

18 million dollar budget made 55 million dollars.

And it was all worth it. I have to revisit something that Chris just said. You imagine you go to this movie. You buy a ticket. And you get an idea what it's about. All right.

Michael Keaton, something new with real estate. You sit down. And in the first 60 seconds. You're like holy shit. Is this Ellen Griswald's boobs in my case?

For the hell is this? Uncredited Beverly. The angel. Out of the clouds with full, like full mood, like all timer.

“You must have been blown away in the theater watching that.”

I was rewatching it. I hadn't know what stage the best. Top 10. I know you did. Top 10.

Sure. Yeah, actresses we've had. Yes. Is that hey Beverly? You know, we can't say PG13 or R.

Do you just want to want to film one take? Or we just, we go for it. Sure. Let's go. If it's okay with Michael.

It's also one of the earliest ever moments in a movie for the. Okay, motherfucker. Like we're going to kick this up a notch. And what's so great about that is that

that's Pichino saying, okay, mother fucker. And eventually he was in on that. Yeah. Yeah. It's not true.

They had a kid together. They sure did. Yeah. I googled. I googled.

I was thinking this should be a category. Things I googled as I'm prepping the, the rundown for rewatchables. But I googled. Beverly, DeAngelo, nude scenes.

“Because I couldn't remember how many times.”

She had that on on that. I patterned this. That was on this iPad. And all this research came up of her nude scene in vacation, which apparently.

And she's like, fuck it. I'll do it. Yeah. And there was this whole story about Anthony Michael Hall getting in trouble because he tried to sneak on to the set when she was doing.

Which I don't think came up in our research when we did rewatchables. Initially. And then they had to kick him off the set because he was basically. Like he did. Four keys.

Yeah. The watcher of people. Roger Ebert, two stars. Yeah. You know, there's not a fan of of from how month the later.

Roger Ebert finds these movies. Yeah. The test is movies. Pacific Heights is a horror film for Yuppies. In which the bad guy uses the axe to attack your three flat.

Not you. The thing is that I could easily see this being the premise of the Hitchcock movie. I mean, even down to the setting. But the idea of being terrorized in your own house seems like.

Something that was ready made for him. And then Roger. Mm-hm.

I never much liked the young couple or believed they liked each other.

There you go. And I didn't see enough of Keaton in the early stages of the movie because he was always behind a closed door. Fair criticism. It is that is true.

I was going to do this later.

This would have been a great diploma movie. Yes. For sure.

“I think you ramp up the sexuality all the way through.”

I think you change. You recast Mount and Griffith or Tower. Can you go to bodied double motor? Can you be doing all this stuff like going between walls? Yeah.

It's like Drake and Patty are humping Carter's listening. You know? There's definitely a Carter sneaks in and is watching when they're having sex in. Yeah. Carter makes Anne come over but calls her Patty.

It's just like it would be so twisted. All kinds of shit. I would take that and I would just go one notch higher with fincher. And then it's then it's getting really dark. I don't like panic room.

I don't know how much question I'm saying. I thought I could handle fincher with the roaches. I just think I'd be just as really gross. We're going to take a break. We're going to come back with most rewatchable scene.

And I had a surprising amount of them. Most rewatchable scene Kyle mentioned the sheer thrill of seeing Mrs. Chris while getting it on and then it's moving. Congrats to her. Bill.

One year after Christmas vacation in which she spends the entire Christmas Eve with this like center cut bosom bust in thing. Yeah. And you're like actually so attractive and cool. 10 seconds into the movie.

We just line around naked. It was the 13 year old me one crazy. Well, also, she's just covered in her own cigarette smoke. It just smoke it and we're in a commono. The entire movie.

It's coming out of her nostrils constantly. Yeah. It's almost like it's like she's wearing a reverse oxygen mask or something. Just spitting out smoke. Most rewatchable scene.

I love a good house renovation scene. Going right into a super awkward rental scene with with a perspective back at the end of the day. I think that's it. I think that's it.

Have you ever done. Really, really interesting from a night to night. Your perspective. For sure. And then winds up being a real beef.

Really, really. Check off splacted it. But give you were done your own demo work. No. No.

What are you talking about? I'm just sure. It's like jammer. There you go. You guys don't pay rent though.

Yeah. He's the houses here. That's it. I thought I didn't know. Like back in bosseter.

Your first LA has really.

Yeah. That's take this wall down. No. Let's open this. Yeah.

That's a no. I'm sorry. I just get the run around so much. Oh, bad for that guy. Yeah.

Carl. He was also Carl Lumberview. Maybe he's a little too aggro initially. But I get one of that place. Yeah.

I'm putting the, I'm not putting it under the door. Yeah. At least application. It's in a, it's in a manel envelope. Attention.

“I think it would have been a little bit more on the same page about who was handling applications.”

And who was doing what? That they weren't on the same page in this term movie. Kyle mentioned this scene already. King comes in as a bunch of questions.

This is your first place.

How about if I pay 2000 now? Actually, I'll worry you everything from my bank. Work seen the conia. Feedback in this in the scene. Thank you.

It's a great toenail because I know it sounds so made up. And this is, there's twin scenes. He works the idiot Drake. And then he gets the smart girl. And he's doing that thing.

He's like, did you pick out these light fixtures? And then there's the shot where he gives her a quick up and down in the body. And he got great taste. It's a, it's a great scene. I love that one.

I work for a private trust. I don't really have a traditional kind of credit. Sure. This is up there. What?

I was thinking about like who would buy this? What, how stupid do you have to be at? Maybe he had CT from the rugby? This is a very like what's the most 1990 thing. But like, it's the idea of being like, I work for a private trust.

It's based in San Antonio. You're, you're not going to get a usual credit history. It's up there with like, I'd love to do this. But I just have to move some money around. You're right.

Sure. Yeah. Take out your phone and move the money around. Right. Yeah.

Motherfucker, come back with that money. It sounds like she lives in Canada. I met her Niagara Falls. I thought the same thing.

That's the Mount Rushmore of, hey, you would have never.

I'm like everybody around here.

“He says, I'm always running into this problem, you know?”

Yeah. A bit you are. Carter Hayes. What do we think about Carter Hayes and Drake Goodman as names? I think there's like to be anonymous because Danforth keeps moving through identities.

So I think it's like an easy, it's an easy name to like replicate until like get. What ring or podcast with Carter Hayes host? Oh, straight La Croix, dude. That's an AI Lacks name right there if I ever heard one. We've gotten rid of Danny Hifits and the fan.

If you football show, we've replaced him with Carter Hayes and Drake Goodman. Carter Hayes started doing some town episodes. He's a billionaire now. This is my favorite scene in the movie. Okay.

Just because it makes me laugh so hard. It immediately turns you against Drake Goodman for the rest of the movie, and he becomes the bad guy. When they're talking about Mr. Baker, how he came in the perspective back tenet.

That was a weird agrarious term. Is this a new category for us?

“The Drake Goodman Award for most unexpected casual races?”

No, no, not a racial thing. It's common sense. Sure. That guy is so sight to vote for Bush. He almost catches himself saying, I have a lot of black friends, honey.

Like it's right there. To be fair, he does his only friend. He does. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true.

It's weird because he's too racist. But they're running the other apartment to a Japanese couple and his only friend is black. So why are you being a racist? Yeah, it's just bizarre. Drake Goodman racist kite maker.

That should be under character in the impressions.

Sorry, you'll never get one of these kites.

Yeah, I don't trust this guy. He's Mexican. I'm just a kite maker. I just call him like I see it. We didn't let a world come true.

Drake Goodman in the first cigarreal. This is like, yeah, finding him would be like finding a vaccine for a disease. Obviously, that's a world cup show. Yeah. Ecuador typical.

That's just basically a Lexi Wallace. He kind of hits. Carter somehow gets into the places. My next rewatchable scene. Yeah, this is my sweat.

This is tough because this is where they gave him an inch of daylight. And he just didn't. Yeah. Did they? Well, because that's the great.

They signed the lease. I guess he did. He signed the lease.

But he's obviously not paid.

He immediately changes the locks. He got in because somebody opened the door. But their mistake was not locking the lower part. So they're just so disorganized. They got people moving in.

They have money problems. We need this guy. They're not anybody watching the till. Yeah, and what's a double overtime. There's a lot going on.

The kites are running behind schedule. There was an intense scrum. He was a part of. I wanted to see her if she ran like the equestrian club like this. There's just little kids riding on horses away from.

Some place in Malbu or whatever. Um. He's in the garage. We go from he barely gets into. He's in Seattle to now.

He's just smoking a cigarette in the dark in the garage. Again, I feel like we're missing a scene.

“But I think this is a really good flipping the razor blades.”

Yes. It's like, OK.

And this is 22 minutes into the movie.

It's like, all right. We're not even going to like play the game and pretend we're buddies. Right. We're just going for it. I looked for you guys.

He smoking that cigarette in the car with the windows off too. Yes. It's it's full psycho. He doesn't care. Yeah, that might.

It's arguably the social, most sociopathic thing he did in the movie. In a small Porsche coupe, too. That ain't invented. Because that car is going to fucking stink for 10 years. Keeping roaches and jars is pretty nuts as well.

Yeah, that's pretty. Uh, next we watch. We'll see. He changed the box. Ah.

Look, I can handle this. Patty. I know. Uh. This is where my wife, I wrote down her quote.

He's acting very irrational and it's bothering me. That was a direct quote from my wife. Yeah. She patty needed to take the car in here. She needs to take over.

Patty needed to give him the video curly own. You can act like a man. Yeah. Just like shake his. Shake his shirt.

He's just a mess at this point. Uh, next one cockroaches. Which leads to Drake climbing under the apartment. At the perfect time, where we get to hear the entire plot of the movie. Yeah.

Thanks to our two bad guys. There's doing a podcast about their hyester doing. What you brought me in on this. Yeah. Yeah.

The cats in there. There's cockroaches that fall in the head. Um, good. Probably mo deans best moment in the movie. Those are 20 live cockroaches getting dropped.

Now, this is right when the cat gets taken, right? Yeah. Uh, when you and I have shared that in the 90s. Earlier decades in American history, we've, we had a little bit more of a transient, like, kind of a flipping relationship to house pets. Yeah.

This is what we mean. You know, like, when it's just like, yeah, you just get out of the cat. When he tells Patty, they have our cat. She's just like, too bad. Doesn't get a shit.

I'm sorry. I was going to have Mallory as our fourth. And I just feel like she would have spent an hour and a half talking about the cat. Yeah. I just don't understand.

They would have her own Instagram account. Yeah.

“Remember of the family we travel with it.”

Yeah. But he takes those bugs to the face like a champ. I like that. It reminds me of a, like, Kate Kapsha on Temple of Doom gets, like, bugs and centipedes all over her. It's like that.

It's a good one moment. What if, uh, if you had to say more impressive to you, the pegs. Vision Quest going all the way up for the 20 cockroaches on the face. What did Modi, what impressed you more from Modi? The cockroaches, the face is like a bad, like Joe Rogan, fear factor episode.

He was in high school. I think it's the pegboard by far. I think it's very hard. Very hard. Yeah.

Incredible stuff. Modi. He's a fucking legend. Carter brings the flowers over after making the police call. Just to get his ass kicked.

Goes through the front door. We get a cry hug after Drake does the beating. And then we get the lower going. This is what he wanted. Game over Drake loses.

She's, she's. Can't fit in the basics at all time. God help us if this becomes personal. I know man. So good.

Fights in any thoughts Kyle? I do. Yeah. I have some thoughts. First of all, I had this on our answerable questions.

Incredible job baiting the hook with the preemptive police call.

What is Carter's play? If Goodman doesn't take the bait. In other words, he's mad, but like he's not beating him up. You just keep kind of writing him and you have some words. If you pull it this, like, yes.

I mean, my honorable questions are similar. I don't know what he does if Drake's just like, okay. Well, I tried. Yeah.

“Now see, I think he studied this man this idiot.”

Drake could. For weeks on end. He's excited by just the site of $3,000. This is like Bronson and Game 5 with Wemby. Just like I've solved this 7 foot 6 for you.

I've got. I'm just going to beat him off the dribble. He's going to buy every fake I have. And then I'm going to score in a minute. I think he had some heavy artillery ready.

Some sound bites or maybe some gestures. He was going to get him to punch him one way or another. Once he found out about the rugby, he's like, this guy's going to punch you. Yeah. This guy plays rugby.

He's like, he could just be like rugby. It's not a real sport. Come on. Every rugby player is just a failed football player, right? Drake and then the punches will start.

Drake gets shot. Yeah. This was a woe. I like the camera too, where Keaton turns out the lights and is in the back shot. Yeah.

Do you think I had this for an answer? Do you think he meant to kill him or just.

“I think he meant to main him because I think the entire point is that.”

He wants to get his identity.

The first con is supposed to be.

I will basically get this house as payment for the. That's that they're going to owe me. Yeah. And then he's just going to sell the house for nothing. Like and make like whatever the profit is for that.

But then I think as it goes on, it becomes more of an identity. What do you think of? Well, I think yeah, he shoots him by accident and then he plants the crowbar. But I'm glad Chris said that because I think even watching it now is an adult. It's a little hazy exactly what Carter's end game is.

I've watched and I'm like, what is the plan? He strips the apartment and I think maybe he sells all the light fixtures and the tile or something. Yeah. Like I think he for him, it's like all cash business. I just need moving around money.

But I don't know that he is like this score will set me up. Like I think he's addicted to like being on the run and addicted to this kind of terror. I have the answers. What do you got? He destroys the place because he's a fucking sociopath who smokes cigarettes with the windows up in his car.

Um, he fully intends to win a civil suit against Drake and get the house. Yeah. And then he'll just shut the house and start at life there. He's going to, he's going to film it and move to the next city. Right.

Yeah. So it's just like way easier ways to make a $200,000.

“He's definitely, you have to get the shit kicked out of you.”

Look at Patty too much. He's fucking a question teacher. There's something in flash of kites. Patty seeing that Carter destroyed the place. Um, yeah, she's really upset about it.

It's a good scene. All for like rich. It's Malian Griffith's best best work in the movie. Um, followed by her meeting the tenant that she didn't run to. Yes.

Her boyfriend is a casual racist. Mm-hmm. My favorite part of the movie. Patty spies on Carter for the day and somehow gets into his hotel room. This 15 tenants, whatever it is.

I wish there was like three more things like this. Honestly, this could have been the home movie. Yeah. She does like the full Kevin McAllister. I'm just going to order everything to room service.

She sees her Crember lay. She's just like having a shopping spree. And it's as your audience, even waiting for 90 minutes for this. It's very sad. You know a date.

Greg's not unhappy. I know that he loves this part. That's seen in the movie. I was easily the most knowledgeable scene. The whole thing with the maid.

I like you find it a little ridiculous. That Carter keeps his entire biography and newspaper clipping for the suitcase. Well, we did it from how much that everybody does. Yeah. So that was fatal.

Traction created it. And now that we're here for a moment. You have to keep the scrapbook. But you know what reminded me of was Jean Triple Horn's move in the firm, where she goes down to the camons with an apron. Yeah.

And like I thought it would have been great. If Patty was like Carter, you're the fucking man. Take me with you on your next score. And like try to seduce the drug a bit.

But you know, basically was always just trying to build a case against him.

That's for the Apple scripted series. Yeah. I learned that from this scene.

The maid always lets you in in any movie.

If you try this in real life, they're like, I'm sorry sir. I can't get into that. You're going to have to go back down a lot. Her excuse is like, I can't get into my room. Yeah.

It's like, you're in the 10th floor. Just go down and get a fucking key.

“Also, what's the maid always falls further to the movies?”

Like, what is with it? Like her leaving and taking back and leaving a little bit of cash for the maid. She tried to write how much Carter owes her versus the maid. I think she was like, I'll do a good deed for this lady. And then she's like, Oh, yeah.

We're broke. I'm about to lose that house. I do think that's it. Was you such a weird thing to add? She's like, why don't I want to give the maid all of them?

Yeah. You get a good person. Yeah. Bill, this is like, this is one of those things that happens in movies and not real life. Like, when you go into a bar and say, I'll have a beer.

You have to say the name of the beer. I recently had this in a hotel like six months ago where I was locked out. And I asked the maid. I was like, can you please let me in? Here's my ID.

Here's everything. And this lady was going to wash. She no matter what I said, she would not let me in. It's a fire. It happened in 1990.

Yeah. Any hotels can be like, you're fired. She's better. You got to go downstairs. Yeah.

I can't. I can't let you in. I know. I like that.

“I like when people go nuts in a bad guy's hotel room.”

Which he does when they flip out. The scrapbook of a Zebra work is especially good. It's probably the best scrapbook we've had. Yeah. There's perfectly.

The things. Hey, here's what I lost out the family.

To my brother. It's just like so weird. Because it's like, if you're a Carter, it's not like you've forgotten what you've done. Right? You have all these pictures.

Here's me and my twin brother and a chimpanzee. Yeah. Yeah. That's probably when he started losing his mind. It also listened.

You have Tom size more calls. Guys slick in prison. Change in the entire plot of the movie. Can you have ten fourth unlocked the entire thing? Come on.

He left the scrap back with his real name on the back. In the middle of the trashed apartments. That's like the slick equivalent here. I like when she takes the chocolate. Yeah.

Oh, sure. That's chocolate. Hold that whole thing is just great. Then the final fight fight scene. You crossed the line.

Yeah. The nail gun. Very cool. Back to the nail gun. It just had stopped working for her.

And then we get the Allen Rickman. There's Bruce Willis right there. There. There's Bruce Willis staring at CR. Just looking staring him down.

We get the fall. Fall backwards. Even though he's just in a kitchen. Yeah. Going backwards.

Just put your hands behind you. Archive Matthew Moe did. Another interview who did 2000. What's he got now? Come on.

“I think the movie would have made a lot more money.”

If at the end, when Michael Keaton fell in the spikes. If he'd started to pull himself up. And I'd reached up from where I was below him and pulled him back down onto them. Because he shot me. He's being with the golf club.

He's ruined my life. He's destroyed my apartment. The audience really wanted my character Drake Goodman to get one back at him. To be fair to him, Ed. I did all the respect to Matthew Moe.

Don't you think anyone in the history of movie going really? Yeah. It was a pretty good movie until the very end.

When Drake Goodman finally double impales him.

And everybody's like, "I got to go out and see that for myself." I look for more money because of that. I think more people would have won a Drake Goodman at that at the end of the movie. I wish he had died from the golf club beating. Hey, Drake Goodman.

Yeah. I guess I should say this now. My weak link of the film. I think Carter's death is fucking horrible. I think the whole scene is so lame.

You do get checkoffs nail gun, but you don't get that killed with it. Can we walk through what Drake's plan was here? He's just been beaten with a golf club in his bullet wounds. He's going to go underneath the room in the hand-chance that there's some glory hole he can reach through

and do a Brazilian leg lock to trip him. And that final shot is like something that Nordberg would do. It was ridiculous. I think the let last scene is bad. It's the worst part of the movie.

I agree. They did not end it. I also think he's kind of holding onto his leg and Keaton's looking down. Just kick your leg.

Yeah. Stop his fingers. The guy's really injured. Yeah, just like Curtis Arm. Keaton's like, "Whoa!"

As though it had a react. It's like they shot Keaton thinking he was going to fall out of window. Yeah. But then the actual reality is he just falls under the floor. It would have been better if he just put his hand up

and trip them. And then he felt like face first on the thing. So he flew the floor down to Moodine or something. Imagine Hans Gruber instead of falling 50 stories just fell down on the ground. Yeah.

That's what it is. What if like Drake was hiding underneath the floor and then he just lets a kite out. That's the last. Oh, yeah. He's got a kite with razor blades.

Yeah.

Like he's a lot.

Curtis alive for 20 seconds staring at you.

Like that's when you get in your line. That's when you put a cockroach on his face. You're going to feel like you're evicted. Yes. Yes.

We've rejected you. Your rent is past due. Yeah. Sing a bite of that security deposit. Yes.

It's perfect. Honey, call the angry black guy. We have a vacancy. Hotel room is the best scene. That's the most rewatched.

Yeah. No brainer. What's the most 1990 thing about this movie? Cabaret. You know, sometimes when you're just lying on the couch,

riddled with bullet wounds, you just need to bang out some soundgarden at MTV and just return it the fuck up.

“And it'll just take you where you need to go.”

Yes. I self satisfied. And it's just like I'm just cozy. Yeah. And it's just rocking out early soundgarden.

It's the song called Hands All Over. It's metal is hell. He should be watching like prices write or something like no. MTV soundgarden. Like turned up to 11.

It makes me so happy. Yeah. And MTV video of a grunge song that they probably wouldn't have played in 1989 or 1999. Yeah.

I don't think that one's playing with you. I had just all the banking and tenant applications stuff, waiting for wire transfers. And then also this is now become a tenant of from Hel movies, letters of reference.

Again, just like, hey, I have this letter of reference. Well, it's air tight. We better just get this guy in the apartment. Well, how about here's a phone number of my previous landlord. Yeah.

It's just some lady having a cigarette. Yeah. Carter's great. Yeah.

“I had to give him money to just to be here.”

Yeah. You don't have an address for him. Do you? That's a red flag. I also had a drink being kind of blown away by Carter having a car alarm.

Oh. Yeah. Really. He's just like, well, he dunked on him. Are you from the future?

Yeah. I had buying a huge San Francisco three story house for $750,000.

Although $1.9 million adjusted for today's money.

Yeah. He ever caught in this a horror film for Yuppies. Anyone working for a designer kite company. I feel like that has to specifically be 1989 or 1990. Yeah.

And then that's real like Earth Day kind of on us. Yeah. You know, like, we're just going to go outside to the park. Not being able to Google your bad guy tenant. I'm just going to check out this Carter Hayes.

See if there's anything online. And then Melanie's haircut. Yeah. Come on. Come on, Bill.

You waited long enough. That's the way. It's very specific to the that 8990. It's I want some life in it. It's like a bob.

My wife kind of liked it. But it's kind of a bob. I don't know if it exists two years later. I think she goes shorter. Yeah.

And it's just very specific to that air and I don't know why. Or her clothes in general are very late 80s, 1990s. Mm-hmm. So excited. This is my favorite category.

The Floyd Gondolly butter mass. Laude pops on my mouth award for something I just enjoy. I'll go first. Okay. I love in movies like this.

When people do over the top rich guy stuff. And it's like the most cool shade rich guy thing you could possibly do. In this case, Carter Hayes, I know his next score. Picks up the wealthy lady in this giant mansion. Yeah.

What are we going to do? An idea. I'm going to put a sweater over my shoulders. I have a yacht, a little three-hour yacht trip. And let's drink some champagne.

And just seems to be rich together. But nobody in the planet does this in real life. Not one. Great. Champagne, yacht trip.

Captain, take a sound. Yeah. We definitely had lobster and caviar, too. That's what you do back in the day. Lifestyles of the rich and famous.

No, but what's your great, great pool?

First of all, I haven't thought about anything for the last five minutes.

Then ways that Carter Hayes could suffer a kite death. That's all I want in life. I feel like maybe there could have been like a key or something like Benjamin Franklin with another famous kite. That's all I want was a kite death.

Floyd Gendoli, things I just enjoy. I really enjoy Orcans presence in this movie. Very good. Bob, the sidekick of the Joker and the Batman movie shows up and built this is probably in half as internet.

The Orcans company sued and how they were portrayed in this movie. Because I have this vision that there's like a VP of marketing who goes to see you.

“And it's like, sir, I really think we should write the check for this Matthew”

movie. I think we want to be in it. They go to the premiere. They're sitting there. Like, here's the scene.

Here's the roaches. Here comes. And then it's this idiot bumbling Barney five more on.

He came to do anything.

“And then I feel like the Orcans people went to the premiere.”

And at the after party, they were at the same table as the Marriott people. And the Marriott people. I guess movie was great. We love how we were portrayed. That's kind of the roots of hell.

Yeah. The manager with all the balls to stand up to that we love it. And the Orcans people were furious. That gives me great amusement. It's pretty good.

It is. Yeah. What was that guy? What Tracy Walter? He's in repo man.

He's in Batman. Yeah. I had his thoughts on the lambs. Yeah. Yeah.

He's been around. Yeah. He's one of those guys. What do you have? Just any movie where a car pulls up to the top of the hill in San Francisco.

Yeah. As it's going on.

It's just like those shots of those hills are just always like, yeah.

This movie can be about anything. It's just the best other than anyone asking a trusty maid to let them into a hotel room. That is theirs. Always works. I always get excited when it happens.

Never can happen in real life. What do you have for what's it to best go? I already kind of mentioned that Patty is just so much smarter than Drake. I like that. Yeah.

And he's like a total dick to her. And she just sees over it. And then on the same related note. I just want to give some respect to Melanie Griffith's jeans in this movie. They're like the fourth lead of the film.

I mean, they're up to her armpits. They're belted. They're frosted. I can't take my eyes off him. Her final shot in the movie is up to stairs walking.

It's just fantastic. And I love her jeans in this movie. G, N, E, S, and J, N, S. That's right. I would say what's the best.

Probably just the idea of like the beta trying to fight the alpha. Like Drake being pit against a guy who has everything that he does in and everything comes. More easily to that guy rugby beta rugby beta with a con man alpha. So I really enjoy that. I have music by Hans Zimmer.

Yeah, yeah. Hans is like, yeah. I'm not doing anything that week. I could whip something together. You don't tell me, okay.

I'll work on it. Um, casual rental racism coming back to Burton landlord. Yeah. So what's the edge the best? Scrap book with someone's evil past.

I had for another Beverly DeAngelo nude scene. It's like Dev and Hester with kick off touchdowns. It's like he did it again. That'd be eight years.

And this was like the Super Bowl because he does it on the first play.

Like right out of the gate and Jim Nans can't believe he's gone. How many times did he do that? Just don't kick the Hester. Oh, that's great. Beth Smoking ahead for you.

Yeah. Yeah. A positive spin for the most part of being a landlord. Usually landlords and movies are either people landlords. Yeah, they think they're as characters.

Usually, like, ah, the fucking landlord or he's creepy or he's spying in them. It's like a stepmother. So it's evil. Yeah. Tippy Headron as for a Tippy Headron as a Florence Peter.

And that's Melany Griffith's Melany Griffith's real life. Mom. And then I have for what's aged the best. This exchange. Oh, that's a great idea, Patty.

You're pregnant with a blown knee. My knees fine. And I don't have to be pregnant. Ooh. Yeah.

That's it in the script. Yeah. But also, like, unbelievable. Patty threatening to go, go pro again in a question.

“I think like, what kind of money are we talking?”

Should you get to make the mortgage? The nestles are coming up. And he's like, no, no, it could be an Olympic sport any year now. The Steven Sagao shooting on himself will work for most unbelievable anecdote from the actual film shoot. Kyle alluded to this earlier.

Look, this is on the internet. Not positive. It's true. But I'm going to pass along anyway, because it's great. Modene stated during your presentation at the New York Film Academy that he experienced significant difficulty working with Melany Griffith.

He noted her frequent complaints regarding her menstrual cycle as a primary memory of their professional interaction. I don't know if that's true or not. It's so fucking weird that I just am passing a lot. Not judging. Yeah.

The other side of the truth.

That's amazing is that around when Melany Griffith was shooting bonfire the vanities.

Yeah. She complained openly about how difficult a production Pacific Heights was. Do you know how fucked up Pacific Heights most have been to have been complaining about it during making bonfire? What happened? Yeah.

Yeah. That's like World War II. I'm not getting along with Melany Griffith. Did he say they're caught in the menstrual cycle? Like, in character is Drake Goodman.

I don't know. I hope that's not true. Maybe it's not true. I'm going to pass on. Just for comedy sake.

That's it. Sure. Again, the Steven Segal category is like, we don't know if that happened where he should have himself been passed along. We're going to take one more break and then we're going to do Great Chuck Order.

Great Chuck Order award.

“What do you have to see our most cinematic shot?”

Yeah. So I've got Drake dropping his mail in the mailbox and then the curtains suddenly opening behind him. But I'd like to introduce a wrinkle to this category today. Yeah.

And it's called past the settle down juice.

The director award. Yes, do it. I know what it is.

The random 360 dolly shot of Patty in the lawyer having a pretty normal

gotper station in the winter. Lori McCaff and Melany Griffith are just like, yeah, this guy is going to try and

“get shot of the house because that's what he does.”

He tries to win. And we want the fucking cameras going around and around. Like, it's like they just found Jake Lamada there. It's really you love settled down juice. Yeah.

That's good one. I like that. One of these guys chooses the 360 shot for the great shot gore to work in a fight. I hate that shot. I feel like I'm on a carnival ride.

Yeah. And they're treating this been all conversation. Like it's a pechino in the ocean and the insider like just screaming into the photo. The drama doesn't match the shot easy.

The only time it works is when Keaton's flipping out at the end of the hotel manager because he's flipping out and they start moving around. Yeah, that's good. I agree. The other one didn't work.

I had the ice cube falling in the hotel glass. Oh, that was awesome. It was a really good one where it flips.

It's just going up the door.

It's just I was impressed. Chess walk well. Brocklanders were a best character named Carter Hayes. You guys got a good man. You got a dick deeper here guys.

What do you got Chris? Quarter pointed locksmith man Fred Bagel. That's his name. You imagine this guy's name's high-end zeal. That's the actor.

And he's been in a bunch of Woody Allen movies or whatever. You think he's like gets a call and they're like. Hi. We need you to come play a coin a quarter point of blocksmith that he's like. Ah, for Chris.

I don't know. And they're like his name is Manford Bagel. I'm there. What's my call time? What that guy's dick thing was onion.

Or everything. The screenwriter was definitely eating a bagel when he wrote that. Yeah. Manford Bagel. Well, there's something in the thing where they say Patty's last name.

A couple of times in the movie and then the credits. It's a different last name. Oh, for real? I assume it's just that over. Oh, wait a second.

Hold on.

“Is it possible that his name is Bagel because he deals with locks?”

Maybe. Oh, it's like a nickname. And just a lot. But the Marshall is very like official about like he's like. Very official.

Quarter pointed locksmith manford Bagel. He does everything. Can kind of sit a half in his so we're best need to drop. Go ahead Kyle. Well, I already mentioned the sound garden.

There's an awesome part where when Drake gets back to the house and the car's. Being taken apart and there's just this crazy heavy metal plane. Yeah. I want to shout out to a band called Hallows. Even 80's thrash band from Atlanta who plays lethal tendencies.

And it makes Drake even matter. It's like a trap that he walks in that metal song. Which by the way, I know that song kind of music pretty well. I literally downloaded shazam and held it to my TV because I couldn't find out what song that wasn't.

It's like, oh, easy. Leathal tendencies. How does he got it? My wife has been doing that to like random trans songs that are on like. It's like, what is this?

And I'm like, it's like literally music. What do you do? I wrote down this as for later. But did this movie create grunge music? No.

But that's a good, good bit. Drake Goodman, listening to Sound Guardian. Was that it? This is where your hottest take. It's around zero.

He is. You could tell he's starting to explore like I've got a scarf on. Like ironically. Yeah. I think they moved to Seattle.

You probably really get into this. Well, Sound Guardian, what? A year later, their plan birth rich will on singles. Yeah. Yeah.

It's they just beat it. Thenethy's Benny Hanoi word for scenes till in location. And the Amanda Dobbins word for best piece of real estate. Where this house was.

“Do you think this house is a good piece of real estate?”

I like that. It's at the top of the hill like that. There's a lot too. I think it's weird to live on those steep hills. Did you know anybody who did that?

No. My buddies, Bishop Mike and Hopper when they lived there. They lived like in the middle of a slanted hill. I was thought it was just weird. Yeah.

I do want to mention the Beverly Hills House from the lady that his next mark. 1014 North Crescent. 30.3 million on Redfin right now. How much? 30.3 million.

I mean, it's fucking huge. It was best. I made it. That's the fucking big. That's the white whale for Carter.

He must be like, if I get this one, it's all over. I just like don't. So he's like in San Francisco trying to scam somebody into an apartment. And then he's also an L.A. trying to get a 30 million. We like that too.

Yeah. I mean, he has to take his marks identity to go after her right. Yeah. Okay.

It's like you always want to have the next one go in.

Yeah. It's like Sam Prestey. You got like two trades going on once. Could this movie have had a better title? Well, it could.

It would have been the tenant. But Roman Blansky made that movie. Broken lease. You never breaks it. I just, I think it's a fiction.

Pacific Heights. What percentage of the viewing populace even knows what Pacific Heights is in reference to. It's very vague. I don't know if you can pause it.

I have the winner. It's off of what Kyle just said. A fiction quest. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

It's an unofficial vision quest sequel.

A fiction quest. See, I have a Flex category. There's a Jesse Eisenberg. That's good.

“You should be proud of that right there.”

Don't worry. If you don't make it any further award for the best line reading is when. I keep in first meets mode in and he's like, I spoke to your wife about the studio apartment. You go, oh my girlfriend. He's like, sorry.

We don't want to rush anything, do we? Is it really good line reading? Well, yes. My actual flex is to turn, turn it back to you guys. It's the Van Lathen.

How would Van Lathen get out of this one? Usually this is sex adjacent. But yeah. How would you guys handle this? Okay.

Gary comes to you and she's like, you know, it's going to be lonely without Ben here. Let's get a tenant. Next thing you know, he's changed the box. Like, what's your first move?

I think it's a lot easier now with with camera funds. Okay.

The part of the problem is they can't capture the drilling at 2/30 in the morning.

And I think we also have more awareness of what to do as the landlord in this. Yeah. If they're in there and they're not paying. I feel like you could immediately get the police in. If he hasn't paid anything, and it didn't seem like he had a sign lease.

He signed the lease. It was all predicated on like, I'm going to sign lease. I'm going to send you six months. That's why he was legally. That's why he had the rights to live there because he signed the lease.

Yeah. And he was just like, oh, there's a problem. There's a mix up at the bank. If you're Bill, I feel like you got to bring him like a big dom security guy. Who just sends that every time he comes home.

He's like, hey, yeah. Carter, where's that money? Yeah. This is, this is where I bring in Gahau. Okay.

So how? How you got to handle it? Oh, you got to do that. I have to do things, man. Gahau's talking to the tenant right now.

Gahau, how did you handle it? Does the tenant Chris just indulge me this? Does the tenant work for a private trust? By one thing. With the bank.

Is that the tenant? Who the private trust is for? Yeah. Listen, the biggest idiot thing that they do. They wait way too long to call the police.

Yeah.

The second the Greg is slamming the door in your face.

We got to get the fuck out. You need a record of feuding with the guy that you got to then go forward. Yeah. I have to answer your question, Chris. I would rather have like reptile pets in my house than have an actual renter.

And so I don't really got to be in this, but I call the police early if I did. Here's my thing. Yeah. What do you know? Kill him with kindness.

Every night down there with a six packet. And go see you be like, hey, Carter. All right.

“Just want to know if you want to come upstairs.”

Rick Ruchel's pitching. So I had to look at pretty good. No. Okay. See you tomorrow night.

I'm going to be like Rick Moran. Go spotted. Run. Run with championships. Run.

I'm going to go for a minute. Don't water my rugby team. No. Yeah. No.

Okay. All right. Well, I'll talk to you later, bud. I would just act like me and Carter were best friends. You know what you do, Chris?

You're going to. You're going to have a Weber grill, too. And you're going to put some ribs on there. Front. And Carter, you want some?

Yeah. Medium rare. Come out. They're both like rats. Ronnie.

Look at real good disease and Carter. Bring Greg too. Yeah. This is when he's not there. You just figure out a break into the place.

Yeah. Which is a way better strategy than what he tried to do. It was turning turning the lights off and the power off and all that. That's like the one, no, no. Because now you're violating him.

Now you're the bad guy. Yeah. Okay. Couldn't you just get in. Change the locks again.

So then Keaton couldn't you back in? You could. Yeah. And then you could say like, well, I don't. Lisa grew up in what do you mean?

And he's never paid me. Which is girlfriend award for week length of the film. So you already did yours, Kyle. Yeah. I've seen his death scene sucks, but you know, it doesn't suck.

Chris Ryan referencing big daddy Rick Russell of the San Francisco. I loved Rick Russell. You have a whole run to bow in the all star. Yeah. What do you got, Bill?

So Carter Carter Hayes. I have him as the best six inning starter ever as a villain in a movie. He can only throw 18 pitches. He looked unstoppable. He's basically he's going through six.

People are texting each other like you watch and Carter Hayes right now. Yeah. So 18 straightouts, ten strikeouts, no walks like this guy's on fire. Fucking falls apart. In order, he fucks up and shoots Drake.

I still don't understand. We talked about. He shot. And put the crowbar in his hand. But why?

What did that, what did that get him?

“Uh, I think he's trying to drive Drake mad so that he is gone from the situation.”

And he can take over the house. Just kill him then. Yeah. I didn't know he leaves the childhood photo behind. You're getting out of there.

You have time to pack up at the you're leaving this incredible clue.

He moves to LA and stupidly sends a postcard for his new hotel to his ex-girlfriend, who's been looking for him, who hates him. Yes. Do that. And then he becomes Drake Goodman in the hotel.

Like, that's your second guess after his Carter Hayes. No. I wonder if he stole Drake's identity. He's a good player. He sure is room 10 30 would. Um, I just, I thought he played this perfectly.

And then it just fell apart.

Yeah. Bill, I'm looking at like mark prior for the cubs in the Steve Bartman game. It's just completely present. When when Carter Hayes is sprinting down the avenue of the stars chasing a cab. I feel bad for him.

That's beneath him as a star. You got to get him out of there. Yeah, that's when he's now he's like given up nine earned runs. It's like, yeah. He's got a note of that. Yeah. This is ERA's going to go up.

Um, did you have a week link or no? Uh, no, not really. I like Lori Metcalf's performance.

“But I think it would have been cool to have like a harder charging aware.”

Okay. A little bit more aggressive. Maybe he gets killed by Carter. The Mallory Rubin Award. I threw in for did this movie need a better sex scene.

I take two more. I don't think this movie has enough sex in it. No. I really think they should have ramped it up. Carter should have brought some some gal home to the destroyed apartment one day.

If you're going to throw that in in the first three minutes.

That can't be it. Yeah. Like you're trying to set a tone. And then you're thinking, you're going to be an angel of trust me. This is the whole movie is going to be like this.

Well, why do it? It's an unanswerable. Why did she demand to take her name out of the credits? I thought that was weird. I don't know.

Yeah, unbuild. You know, she's like a patient seven. It's very nice. She's like the fourth lead of the movie. Yes, basically.

But I bet I zag on this actually. Actually, it's like, did this movie need a worse sex scene because that sex scene is so good. I'd rather stay out in the desert with the two of them. Right. Oh, yeah.

First of all, I'm more intrigued by that. They're like out in white sands. I would love to know what was going on there. Yeah, that's pretty weird. What stage of worst?

I thought the first scene just in general is pretty bizarre.

It's those guys who come in. They beat him up, but not really. He's fine. It is strange. What lesson did he learn?

And like, why didn't they like break his arm? I didn't get that. So were those people sent by the original Carter Hayes? Like those guys? Is the idea that he is still alive?

I did it. And now those guys are coming after him. Yeah, he's still one because he retained that apartment. Yes. Yes.

Does that same need to be in the movie? I think it's more interesting if he just shows up. It shows how desperate he is. It shows his lifestyle and it immediately gives you a little violence and sex. I kind of like to see it actually because it's confusing, but it tells him he's mysterious.

I would take more violence and maybe he shows up in his arms and a cast or something.

“Remember the shot at the very beginning of the movie?”

They're like two guys driving on the road. Yeah.

That's the guys with the baseball bat.

Oh, that's just the two guys. Yeah, they're going out to beat him up. Yeah. The photo of him and his brother and a chimpanzee. What's going on there?

This is what's the worst. Yes. What's going on there? I don't know. They look like they're in Neverland Ranch.

It's a very strange photograph. Johnny Charles, old man, posed with the chip. Yeah. What, whatever you ever been in a situation. We can take a photo of the chimpanzee.

I can see the movie with the every which way but loose cars. I have responsibilities. I have to take care of my brother. What is that about? And his brother, it's established.

He's the state and the son. Yeah. I thought that, so that shazam song you did. This is my other word, Sage of Worse. I just want to put in dinosaur Junior there.

They're sitting right there. Let's get like a real man. They're not really famous yet. They need it. Yeah.

You know, they have an album at that year. Yeah. I thought that could work. What did you have for what Sage of Worse?

“I think there's like some moments where Hans Zimmer is doing.”

We have to save the Earth from an astronaut. Yeah. But it's just like these two guys are just like nailing two by fours. I don't think it's such a bad idea. Yeah.

That aren't too turned it down. And I thought the combined income of a couple made up of a kite maker and a horse riding instructor doesn't even get to the 20% down for the 750K. So there must either have been a family nest egg in there. And I'd like to know which one of them was spending it.

Yeah. By the way, that would have been a good yupping angle of like somebody's saying. I don't want to have to ask my mom for money. I mean, if you ask me, Drake Goodman screams family of lawyers. He's going his own way.

Right. Kites. What happened to Drake? I heard he graduated from Harvard. So, you know, kites are really taking off right now.

Drake thought this luxury kite business. Oh. That he was going to be an attorney. No, it's going on the kite route. Big kite company.

He's a business too. He loves kites. He's going to do another round of seed investing. If you're in for the series B, let me know. What do you have for woodstage lawyers then?

I think I'll. I got a young woman named Patty. You just don't see that anymore. Yeah. I hate when realtor will bring you to a place that is over your stated price range.

I think it's dirty pool. It happens here. Yeah. But most importantly, guys, is it entirely necessary to have Mr. Watson to be doing Tai Chi in the rain in front of the bonsai trees?

What are we doing?

“The only thing that's missing is that in the final scene when they're fighting Carter.”

Why don't I be comes back and does karate and does a kick?

And it's like 1990. We get it. The man is Japanese. We don't need the Tai Chi in the bonsai trees. It's a little heavier than being like,

I will pay you back somehow. And it's like. They're all following their constantly following terrible situation. I'm out of here. Try and suit me.

I've made you subsushi. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't even clock that.

How did I not have that in my notes? It's amazing. There's a practically a gong there. It's just, come on, guys. We get it.

He's Japanese. Hans Gruber scale villain ranking. Carter Hayes. I think A.0. He's pretty high up there.

Yeah. I mean, he's a terrifying. What if? Like, what if this happened to you? What do you got?

With 10 being Hans Gruber and 1 being the passenger 57 guy. Here's what hurts.

Here's what hurts Carter.

Three to his soldiers. Two to his son death. Carter doesn't kill anybody in the movie. It was just kind of unusual. And he doesn't give us the big hole.

Here is my manifesto. No. The system is working against me. And I will strike. He does a little with my got to take care of my brother.

But a tenant of the Gruber scales. You got to, you got to cook for a while and just tell everybody what you're all about. So you're one monologue short. Yeah. I have them.

I love the character. But on this particular scale, he's at best a six. I liked it.

“During that speech where he's like, you liked it didn't you?”

Like living is going dangerously. Yeah. Roughly Hannah Ribbon and Partridge over acting word. We don't even need to really go in as well. So what about here?

[LAUGHTER] I had Modine 5 Budweiser Drunk acting. Yeah. Yeah. It's all the candidates.

If we did it as Oscars and there were five nominees, it's like, in Matthew Modine and Matthew Modine. And we would just be five to eight. It turns off the utilities and does that dance. It's like the worst end zone dance you've ever seen.

Yeah, it's an offensive line. I'm going to pick up a fumble and does one. I can't believe they chose to keep that in the movie, but they did. Kyle, what's your flex category? Um, I have a new category.

Oh. I have the Pacific Heights Ice Cube Award for Excellence in Intimacy Coordination. Um, that move that they do to start it in which Beverly D'Angelo takes an ice cube out of the glass into her mouth.

Passes it directly to Carter Hay's mouth. He then takes it and rubs it all over her back and then she goes so gentle. Like that is an unbelievable thrilling sequence. And my question to you guys. Did it say in the script?

She removes the ice. Tongues in into his mouth. Yeah, but it's like two great artists. Like let's just explore. Like you know what?

Long day on the set. Let's make something happen here. People who's reactions, I want to that scene. One is Chevy Chase, who watched that scene. It's like Ellen.

And it probably pushed for that shit and Vegas vacation. Yeah. And then I want Pacino's reaction, which I guarantee was. Oh. And he like wanted her number and then met her then.

Wow. Because that is so sexy. And I just, I love that they went for that baby. You were on fire. Oh yeah.

It's kind of a Peter North or a little bit. Most effort put into a scene. Yeah. Great for that. Absolutely.

It changes is against gravity, which is even more impressive. It doesn't go down from the top. Yeah. It's really cool. Up against gravity.

Very impressive. There's some sleep in the throat. Yeah. I think it's all I've lived. You do.

I think this is a Peter North. I love it. And. And. Yes.

Let's fuck around here. Let's try something here. Let's just roll with it. Just keep rolling. Let's do this.

And it's just awesome. So would you go that the pacific heights? The pacific heights ice cube award for excellence in intimacy coordination. Not bad. I'm gonna add it.

The CR thinks Luke will so could have been Harrison Ford how to take award.

“I really have one except for maybe like I think patty should have given like five minutes of thought to sticking with Carter and becoming the new man.”

Yeah. That's pretty hot.

First of all, he shows that he's willing to get his hands dirty when it comes to remote renovations and demolitions.

Yeah. And also like this is a guy with plans and ambitions not come content just sitting around doing kite making. It's pretty good. Yeah. And now is that people should stay with the crazy person.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It seems like tomorrow. It's just got it all big for.

Maybe we're in that CR decided with the from healthcare. Every day. Go on. I have. I think.

I learned more about Leonard landlord tenant rights from this movie. Then any human being in my life. Um, any story. Yeah. I think this movie was incredibly impactful and doesn't get it's just.

That's what it is to do. Um, I can't think of another situation. Um, movie, TV real life that taught me more than this did in 102 minutes. And that's it. What do you got, Kyle?

It's incredible. They, once they get in, they have the right to do process and that's expensive and long. And I completely agree with you. I would watch this to learn about that exact crime.

This is a better movie. If the huge twist at the end is that Carter and Drake are working together. Woo. And when Melanie is up in the hotel room. She's just flipping through the document.

She comes across her boyfriend's photo them together. And he's a brother. Yes. His name is not Drake Goodman. He's been and there been working on this for months.

Remember, they're not married. And they make a point of saying they're not married like five or six different times. So this is relatively new.

“And I think that they're in cohoots and in tandem.”

The fight was kind of staged. I think Drake Goodman the arm. Yeah. Twice norm. I think Drake Goodman caused the miscarriage.

Like all kinds of things. But the terror in her face when she finds out. Oh, my god. They're in on it together. That's a better movie.

You could even have he decides he's going to be a luxury kite maker. As the throw people off the set. And Carter's like, no one will ever. No one. And you play rugby.

This is crazy. What people believe this? That's really good. She could have held the photo up and been like. Yes.

Casting what ifs. Only have one. Christopher Reeve really wanted to be Carter Hayes. Lobby the director. And sadly, for Christopher Reeve.

Keaton was Batman. Yeah. And wanted to be the movie. And that was a wrap for Christopher Reeve. So they wanted for Reeve in this movie.

They wanted Superman or Batman. Like, that's pretty cool. Amazing two choices.

It would have been the third person.

Yeah. I heard Toby McGuire wanted to be there. He was like 10 years old. Yeah. They couldn't.

Well, look at the best that guy category. It's fucking stacked. It is. We have Dan Hedaya. We have Mrs. Wat Nabi played by Nobu McCarthy.

Mr. Miyagi's long-lust love and cry to kid two. You cry to kid. You can't kid two guy. Hello, yes, I am a beautiful story that instruments at the end. I love it fortune. I'm into it. Yes, I'm this time that for points for life. Yeah, car a lumbery lovely car lonely. Caggy Lacy cast member. Also played Bobby seal and just a little bit some of the Falcon number soldier stuff. Yeah, Jerry Harden playing Bennett Fiddle might know him for mex files in the firm.

And then you mentioned Tracy Walters, the cockroach exterminator, sadly none of these people went. I got to go Dorian Harwood. I don't know if he's of that guy. I think he was famous at one point. Which guy is he Chris? He's the one buddy that he has. He's the one buddy he has. That's pretty good though, right? I have him winning because he played eight ball and full middle jacket.

So he and Bo Dean were in the same squad and full middle jacket. Oh, that's good. Mine's not on the list either, though. I have two more. Nicola's prior is the hotel manager. You know him as the risk of business dad and more importantly, Chancellor Arnold from that or two enough. Uh-huh.

My winner is Luca Burke of Vici. Yeah, who played a musn in American flyers with Kevin Costa and the bad guy by her.

And is just a home run in that movie and then really never kind of bounce around him.

This is a good time to ask. What is Greg's utility here? Like a Carter can't do that that demolition himself. He's helping out with ruining the apartment for no reason. Carter needed a hand doing that. It's studio apartment needed some help. Okay. What did you have Kyle?

I had how land in junior when they go and do the the locksmith to finally get in. The officer there with the pattern baldness. He's Ted's dad from Bill and Ted's excellent adventure.

“And that's like the only thing I've ever seen him in.”

But even Halen, they as one scene in this, the year later, that was my guy, but these are a lot of excellent choice. Yes. Really really loaded category. I think my favorite is probably Mr. Miyagi's long last love and credit kid. I did too.

You know, sato kind of fucked up their relationship. I felt like. Um. Deon waiters award. I can offer you Beverly DeAngelo, the Wat Nobby's or the cockroach exterminator. I'll do it.

Yeah. Yeah. She takes it all. Recast and couch director city. I can offer you young Denzel Washington as the tenant that got turned down. Mmm. Right in this range.

I think 1990's little. He's dead. Is he famous at that point? That's post glory. Yeah. Yeah.

All right. Sam Jackson. Oh. Ninety-more. Jackson.

Yeah. I have the Palma for this stuff. Yeah.

“I think the Palma doing pacific heights would have been fucking awesome.”

I'm just, I can't stop staring at cigar shirt. It's really, it is just. It's really great. And you're so happy to be able to look for it. They're together watching the Chicago bulls who Kyle had to the left of him.

You never thought you needed to.

Tony Creach and Mason storm together. Yeah. We got him. Two big three set of rob.

Half veteran research.

Carter Hayes drives a 1977 Porsche 911 career target.

Mm-hmm. It's a fucking elite car. It's not really research. It's just respect. It's just an elite elite car.

Uh, this is my favorite. I was researching Melanie Griffith. Joanne Woodward told a 17 year old Melanie on the set of the drowning pool. That her goals were to marry a movie star. Have beautiful babies and win an Oscar.

And she did all three. Melanie said she adopted the goals for herself. She married a movie star and had beautiful babies. But never won the Oscar. Well, it's not getting nominated.

Joanne Woodward.

“Who didn't you have a moment of Joanne Woodward bumming like that with anyone's here?”

Like, we're somebody passes along. Like James Corden's like, through my three goals. I want to host a terrible World Cup soccer show. Would I have my own late night show? Yeah.

What have I done with this? I don't know. Just. Apex Mountain, Keaton. Yeah.

Well, this is it. I'm going to say yes. Yeah. I think it is too.

It's been a little Apex Mountain being a poison challenge.

Sometimes like you make the wrong move from the Apex. For sure. Or the right move. Sure. Melanie Griffith.

No. Matthew Modi. It's a full meljack. Yes. Yeah.

I'm going to say playing with a razor. Has it ever been done better? I think Kevin Spacey cutting his fingertips off. Yeah. And then of course Paulie slicing the garlic.

But it's close. There's a two really good razor. Razor shots. Better creepy cockroach scene. I don't know.

Cockroaches is notoriously difficult to work with on film sets. What's that stupid movie Joe's apartment? Oh, Jerry O'Connell. Isn't that cockroach space movie? Yes.

I must admit this is my hottest takes. Cockroaches kind of overrated. Seems super scary to movie. But if you have to, they can't fight. They're just kind of creepy.

“I think they're like the scariest thing in the world.”

I don't know myself. Well, they're scary, but I was Mr. Wat Nobby. I would just off to myself. So you're more scared of roaches than mice? I don't.

I think rats are way more scared of the cockroaches. Yeah. Yeah. Roaches they're infinite.

And like they'll never go away.

They just read in your pipes. They've completely freaked out. And a lot of them can fly. What did you get them? I've had a few roaches in my life.

Never like an infestation, but I hate them. We had termites in our first LA place. Oh, yeah. That sucked. Do you have to tent it?

That was bad. Do you have to tent it? They just, it's like out of a movie. They start multiplying. You see the wings.

It's a fucking fight. Spencer Pratt was like, we're getting rid of the roaches you would have. Yeah. So I'll hit the do. Look at you, Craig.

San Francisco movie houses now. We've done this before. Is it Mrs. Dalfire? Uh, oh, movie houses. Uh, yeah.

Doubt fire. And like the stuff and basic instinct. I think full house TV. Full house. People want to take pictures in front of that.

Porsche 9/11 career target. Yes. 7/11. Evil tenants a movie is 100% annoying. Yuppies in a movie.

Maybe. No. And then casual 90s racism sadly. No. Uh, okay.

Cruise. Or hanks. Like, cruise is got to play Carter. This is it. That's it.

I have responsibilities. Patty. Cruise. Would have said no until they showed them the last scene. So he's going to run out of the JW narrative for speed.

He's like, what? This would have been cruiser. It would have been like this is like my Ripley. This is great. Yeah.

Cruise would have caught them. And if he was running out of the and the Avenue of the stars. Also cruise doing the ice cube scene with Danielo. Awesome. This is the same year that he did days of thunder.

And is taking a sweet and low packet up Nicole Kidman's thigh on the inside of it. It's like those are brother and sister scenes. I think he could have done it. He could have done half ice cube. Followed by just them laughing for 20 seconds.

Well, there's also just a ton of cocktail, you know, like he could have thrown the champagne glass in the air, caught it, you know. Yeah. What would have been cruises skill for this? The nail gun. Like I worked with the nail gun for two months.

No, I think it's mimicry.

“I think it's becoming different people to like steal their identities.”

That razor blade, too. He's working that way. I'm working the boy. Yeah. Yeah.

And he has the smoke. The cockroach crawling on Keaton's fingers. Cruise would got into that. Yeah. That's good.

The rose from Titanic award for character who's sneaky sucks. I don't know. It's Drake Goodman qualifier. It is the open. Yeah.

He openly sucks. Yeah. Best name for movie from a racehorse. Best name from movie for a racehorse. Evil tenet.

Sure. I think it's a really good Kentucky Derby name. Good for him. Not a great name for it.

Unless you want to go a kite company.

It just applies. It's a very kite company. Hey, we don't get to do this too often. Yeah. Really it's for CR.

The Dennis Peck relationship test could Dennis have broken up the main relationship. No, but I'll tell you what Dennis would have gotten that guy out of the fucking apartment. They just needed a dirty or cop. That would have been the easiest way to do this. It's just like, get a cop who's like, I'll give a shit what it says.

You're out of here. I think Dennis comes over. The guy's at the kite company job. And we'll start even this patty. Daddy can't get that guy out, huh?

What's your boyfriend do? Luxury, kite company, huh? What are you doing now? Let me get a drink. Yeah.

He's in.

I think he's in the patty in two hours.

You're like threat horses. Picking it. We did a lot of these. The Carter moves in without a rental agreement. Why didn't Drake just open the door with his keys and kick this fucking asshole out before.

“I think the first thing he does is change the lock.”

Open the key. Open the door. Here's an underrated one for picking it. Any time in a movie or TV show, somebody thinks a cat's going to be good luck. Oh yeah.

Never good luck. Just I don't think I've ever seen a thriller where a cat is introduced, but it's like, Victoria about it. Famously bad luck. Yes.

You know, in fact, black cats are, you might do no place to play. If a cat was just outside the door and like, I'd brought this cat in. It would be good luck. You'd be like, get that fucking cat out of here.

My wife and I currently have a betting pool on the cat in the Cape Fear TV show.

Oh, yeah, peanut butter. Just keep sitting there on the counter. Yeah, peanut butter stuff. Carter Hayes is strategy is he's going to drive the men of foreclosure and pick up the property. We think and get it for cheaper.

I think that there was a twofold thing. I think it was there's the initial, like, I'm going to drive these people out. And then receive the property as like my civil, like settlement. And then when that seems like it's not going to work. Just shoot straight.

I think he's still excited. Yeah.

“And then how did they restore the house the second time after they'd been clean out or live in month by month?”

It looks beautiful. New floors. Maybe the Dan fourth estate gave them a little bit of money to shut up about it. I feel like she should have had more money from the hotel room. Yeah.

That should have been like $75,000. She looked like he was like a grand. Like it was a stack of hundreds. Yeah. Madam F.

Any other nitpicks? We did most of them. Not really. I mean, we've talked about most of them. But like the identity thief who keeps his entire life story in a suitcase and the command,

who sends a postcard with a return address. Yeah. Do you have that in your house here? Like just your scrapbook. Yeah.

It's been magazine in Great Land. Secret prequel prestige TV all black castred and touchable. Apple TV written all over it all over it. I can't believe they haven't done it. There was a 2021-22 TV series being kicked around that did a gender swap.

So I assume, I seem Carter would have been a lady. All black cast photo work, too.

“I mean, honestly, prequel would have worked.”

Sequel absolutely would have worked. If you don't kill Carter Hayes and he just gets away. Michael Meyer style at the end. I'm in for that. The Carter Hayes Chronicle prequel is good.

But the whole black cast you then have a moment where you're like, I guess you're thinking right now, I should have rented to the white man. Like it would be all switched off. That's perfect. Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins,

Furg in the florist, Zain Low, Robert Evans, Dr. Charles Nickel, the owner of the luxury cut company. Or someone else. What do you have, CR?

I just want to say up top. I would pay to watch a movie where this guy tries to pull this on either Wayne Jenkins or Furgie as his landlord. You're going to get out of this house for me. Or I'm going to do you the way I did your brother.

Dr. Chemical Lake. But it would be cool to have Zain talk to Carter afterwards. Did you take Kada? Talk about you've extorted. You've trespassed and you've identified.

What's next for you, man? What's the next con? And is it all a con? This whole thing, life. I forgot.

What do you have Kyle? I feel like I'm going to steal yours right now. But there's a slight indoors moment when Carter Hayes is running out of the hotel into the street. If he actually goes right, he goes into a ballroom.

I think he knows speaker is Dr. Charles Nickel. He's sitting there and he's like, "Kada, I'm in the middle of the street." And Carter goes, "You're switched off the utilities. Didn't you?"

You're switched the utilities. After I shot Drake, you were the only one with the access.

Did you evict the water novice, too? Did you? And he's like, "Sorry, ladies and gentlemen. My friend, the Carter Hayes, that doesn't suit you well." I was going to do that black guy.

Yes. He's starting.

The application never came.

So enjoy your coffee and dessert. And we'll talk, Carter. Please. He's there. That's a great one.

“I think you're going to do a guest there.”

No, I think the guest wasn't there. But the weird thing about the ballroom is that the end of it, Borat and Azimat run a naked, too. Like, they just the place comes down. We could have done a little Ryan Rucco for Grace.

Fall backwards, Kada! Just went and ask her who gets it. That was a good news honor of Modine. Supernix fan. Oh, yeah.

Just went and ask her who gets it. I guess Keaton. I guess so. Not Hans Zimmer. Probably needs some questions.

I only have one. Did these two lose their state together? Or was it a break up next to us? I wanted to know how long you guys thought they'd been together before this movie. Like, you know, like, up to the point of buying the house.

Is this like one year? One year thing?

I think it's really short.

I actually had six months. I think they're very impulsive people. Oh, I think it's at least. You don't buy a house with somebody in this city. I don't see years.

I don't see years. In 1990? Yeah. It's like year two years. I think at that point.

“I don't think he was with her when she got hurt during the”

equestrian race. They realized they have absolutely nothing to say to each other after about a week. They don't even have, like, like, a lunch scene where she's like, I thought I'd surprise you at work. Oh, no.

They don't seem to like each other that much. She's even kind of like, what are you doing here when you shows up at the horse? They really brought the set into the movie. Memorability.

You'd most want from the movie Kyle? Um, I want that little model house. I had a car. That was cool. The fake Drake Goodman ID stuff.

So his, his, his card was the old Visa card. Yeah. Yeah. The old passport. Finstack, Mr. Miyagi were best worst life lesson.

I mean, this one has a pretty obvious one. Don't be a landlord. Well, just don't let the person in. Don't let do the sign in the lease. I'll pay you later.

Like get fucking money. Yeah. Yeah. Kids, if you ever hear the phrase, I don't have a traditional kind of credit run.

That's not what you want. That's not what you want. That's not what you want. That's right. Or they mentioned they're back in San Antonio, you're out.

Double feature choice. Would you have KB? Okay. So this is interesting. I had Mr. Mom because it's really nice, fun, Michael Keaton.

But I have to tell you. I was watching the movie, Pacific Heights on Prime, Amazon. Um, it goes to the next movie. And the next movie was unfaithful. And I was like, I think.

Yes.

And I watched the first half hour.

It's like a con man. It's all that. Yeah. So I went right into it and I liked it. I had two.

Uh, one was the money pit from 1986. The Tom Hayes movie about. That's a good one. Losing your mind, trying to save your home. And the other was a little bit different.

Or the roses just because it's like kind of being trapped in a house with somebody. Sure. Yeah. I did single-way female. Did we do the roommate tenant?

Sure. Me just go. What do you have Craig? For double feature. Probably transformers.

Yeah. It's just over one rose. That is the one the movie. Keaton. Keaton.

Michael Keaton after Batman and other dove as a villain. Why I like this movie. Craig. Can't wait for your take. Here we go.

Craig loves from hell. By the way, these are what movies should be. You can watch him at noon on a Monday. They're great. I liked what I liked about this one is that there was like way much more mystery.

Typically it was like domestic disturbance or hand that rocks a cradle. And you kind of just know the motive from the beginning and you're just waiting to get to the end. I enjoy that this movie. They treat Keaton like jaws a little bit. And you're like, I don't really know what he's up to.

I don't see him a whole lot. Who's Greg? What's going on in LA?

“And I think it's why the whole mystery takes you down to LA.”

That's why that scene is so good. But I think this is one of the more satisfying from Hell movies. Because you actually get like the plot to take this person down. Rather than just the big fight at the end results in the villain dying. This was like, oh, for like 20 minutes.

I get Melanie Griffith actually plotting to get back at this guy and it's working. I've got like that was more satisfying. Also, this movie is kind of the inspiration for the show beef. If you think, I mean, it's kind of like a from Hell month is definitely got some of that. It's a road rage, but for real estate kind of vibes and it's very relatable in that regard.

I also think it's kind of just a great look at how men and women deal with problems differently. Yeah. This is like a great men not being able to admit their wrong movie. Like I can handle this patty. It's like honey. Honey, do you don't you want to just pull up a map and get directions?

Like no, no, I know how to get there. Like it's like, we're driving north. Yeah. It's a great menverse women dealing with problems movie. Great call.

Thumbs up. Even enjoyed from Hell month. It's great. It's great. Yeah.

These are great. There's lots for, which is maybe it's just the rest of 2026. What's on the rise of Hell? Well, we've done domestic disturbance in the good sun.

And there's a couple of winners left. Yeah. The really is. The one that you've got.

“I've been scouting some other ones that I didn't.”

Wasn't sure. Yeah. How to go. There's some bad ones. I watched saved me on MGM with Harry Hamlin and the set Anthony.

Oh, come on. We can't do that. We have to do that. It was, I thought it was a, Or we have to like, we have to do like the re-godfather somewhere.

It was terrible. It was truly, truly awful. Yeah. But I just, you know, just looking around.

The only you've mentioned before that I always have gotten so entertained by is cop from Hell on Lawful Entry.

And what's really fun about that movie is Madeline Stowe's character as name Karen. And so you get Ray Lee Yoda going, you're a cock. These are Karen. And it's like right after good fellas. It's awesome.

That's Kurt Russell's in there, right? Yeah. And then he's also in breakdown. I'll do it. Yeah.

Breakdowns, one of our favorites. We could modern from Hell movie. All these movies are from the 90s. No, I mean, I can't go into the 2000s. I can't read once, perfect getaway.

Like the, once that movie, we see. No, kind of ended in the 2000s. Perfect getaways, oh, nine. Oh, nine.

“I just feel like this moved to lifetime.”

And then they did every single version of the movie. But another one that we've talked about doing because van loves is the fan with Robert D'Miro. And he's showing Wesley Snide with the worst ending. Probably of any sports football time. But it's still really fun.

And it's Tony Scott. I mean, to be honest, is obsession kind of like the girlfriend from Hell or the boyfriend from Hell? Sure. Yeah.

Obsession. Yeah. You think that could be in there? I would know. I don't know if it's from Hell, but it's pretty, it's pretty,

pretty fun to do obsession as a rewatchable now. This would be a good. We haven't done a 2026 movie yet. Hmm. No.

We're due. Yeah. Yeah. But it'll probably be the Odyssey, right? I guess so.

I think so. Doing part three, Bill. Let's go.

He's got to see the first two dudes.

Could you do from Hell? Good morning football. There's a new person on the show. [LAUGHTER] Former football.

Yeah. What does that mean? And then it just starts going sideways. I have a quip. But I'm not going to sit.

Okay. Because it would get me in trouble.

“There's another one that I think I'm the only one who likes it.”

But it's a great, great, great, great from Hell movie that I have to recommend. If you like my recommendations. Sure. Bad influence with Roblo and James. Oh, we talked about this.

I think that movie is really good.

It's Curtis Hansen's first movie.

I just think it's excellent. But nobody's seen it. That'd be great. I was interested to the entire Hansen filmography. [LAUGHTER]

I think you would like bad influence. Anyway. All right, Kyle Brandt. This was a pleasure. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm family. Thanks Craig.

Thanks to Chris and Gahau and Eduardo as well. And we will see you next time on The Rewatch Bliss.