A Big Rams-Chiefs Trade, Daniel Jones Tagged, Kyler Landing Spots, DK's Mock Draft 3.0, and Dick Grapes

Welcome to the ringer fantasy football show, AK, the ringer NFL draft show. My name is Danny Heifetz, I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Horleback. Craig's on his phone, he's an insider here for the ringer NFL draft show.

I'm talking to people, you never know when news is going to drop,

but my ears on the ground. >> When Craig has his Mach 1.0, the week of the draft, we're going to get Craig two phones for that episode. And then DK, you dropped your Mach draft 3.0 on the ringer.com, great website. >> Yeah, right, then immediately,

the Rams made a giant trade that messed it up, so then I have to fix it. >> Really screwed that up real fast. So we have to have a bunch of news we'll get to and then at the end, we're going to get to DK's Mach draft and a bunch of things that he got all 32 picks right, except for the Rams, which is really inconvenient.

So 31 picks right for DK. We get to news, do you guys want to Daniel Jones,

“call first to this Rams trade with the chiefs first?”

>> Probably the trade, right? >> Yeah, big trade. >> Big trade, medium trade. So yeah, so that we could go to this trade. So the chiefs traded, they're cornered about Trent McDuffie to the Los Angeles Rams.

Trent McDuffie, who was the first team all pro corner back in 2023 and

2024, traded to the LA Rams and the chiefs in exchange got the first rounder from the Rams number 29 overall, and a fifth round or a sixth rounder and the Rams third rounder next year. So four picks, including a first rounder for the chiefs nickel corner back. A lot of places we could go, but I want to start with the Rams.

They're already a Super Bowl favorites, kind of co-favorites along with the C-Ox. DK, the Rams are just doing the fuck them picks thing again. This is now going to be nine to the last 10 years. The Rams did not have their own first rounder in the draft. >> Whatever, they have a different for them.

They have the third team pick, they stole the Falcons first rounder, but now they traded their other one. >> They were probably like, hey, we got two of them, let's get, to me, I'm like, you get rid of the 29th pick and you get Trent McDuffie, like DK, what do you ask? What are the odds they could have drafted?

A Trent McDuffie level player at 29. >> Well, ironically, there are going to be kind of a lot of interesting corners. I think in that range, there's some corners I like in that range, but you're not getting a multi-time all-pro guys already proven what he can do. And kind of be a day one contributor, so I think that's the big thing, is you're trading

the uncertainty of what you could potentially get at that spot and maybe the upside that some of those guys bring for a proven player, and obviously this is probably going to be Stafford's last year, or maybe he'll play two more years, but you're kind of ending this era of the Super Bowl window that you have a Stafford, so you might as well go for it. This makes the sense for the Rams, it makes the sense for the Chiefs, honestly, too,

is they get three, no, they get four picks for this, and so yeah, it makes sense for both sides.

“I hate the Rams, this makes them better immediately, that's how I feel.”

>> Are the Chiefs rebuilding, like, what's going on with the Chiefs? >> This is, I think, what I've been trying to say every time the Chiefs come up this all season, you're like, "Let's do this again." >> Let's do this all over. >> No, I think this is the point.

I was looking at the roster, because the Chiefs played in the Super Bowl 13 months ago. More than half of the Chiefs starters in that game are off the team, or at least will be for this coming season. Like, literally, the majority of the Chiefs starters, the Kansas City starters on offense of the Super Bowl have changed, and the majority of Kansas City starters on defense are going

to change. I won't bore you that I could read all the names if you want, I have them, but if you just

go through and you eyeball it, the Chiefs have basically, from that Super Bowl 13 months

ago, down to running backs, they flipped out two starting receivers, two starting offensive linemen, two starting defensive linemen, two starting linebackers, probably two starting cornerbacks, down to starting safety from the team that was in the Super Bowl 13 months ago. Yeah, they're totally retooling, and the guys that are staying, or like, moms of the ACL,

Chris Jones who's 32, Kelsey coming back maybe, and like, obviously he has one season left, maybe two, if he comes back, like, older guys, and so the Chiefs now, I mean, Bill Barn will call this a while ago that the Chiefs don't really pay cornerbacks.

“So I think that I could, or I would argue, actually, this is probably smart move, and”

I could explain why, but overall, I think that is the story here from the Kansas City side, is they did that three Super Bowl trips in three years by just hitting all these picks, and they have to do it again, they really, very much have to just hit a parlayer, just they have to replace a bunch of defensive starters all at the same time. And the Rams are in like, hey, we have a year or two left to Stafford, cornerbackers are

biggest weakness this year. Let's get a number one guy and try again next year. Yeah, 100%, I mean, in many ways they're doing both teams are doing what they were doing four or five years ago. I mean, the Chiefs thing I would do concisely is that Bill Barn will make a great point

at ESPN a month ago that he thought the Chiefs would trade, make Duffer to the Rams and Bill will call that. Yeah. He called a shot a month ago, and it's like the Rams have traded for cornerbacks, and the Chiefs trade away cornerbacks, including the Chiefs traded Marcus Peters to the Rams

ago, that the Chiefs now traded Trim McDuffee, like they have a history of doing this because they think the Rams traded for Jalen Ramsey and the Rams traded for Jalen Ramsey.

“So both teams have kind of done this before where I think that the Rams, there's actually”

a lot more to this than it seems.

But I think the Chiefs basically look at it as it's easier to take cornerbacks that are

late round guys and coach them up and replace these guys. And we don't want to have second contract cornerbacks. We want younger guys to coach up with crazy athleticism or size. We don't want aging cornerbacks. The other thing to just throw in here and I already had the Rams taking a quarter in my initial

mock draft that I published and I just kept it at number, I think they have the 13th pick and I do think they could still go corner at number 13, and if that's the best guy on their board, they still need a couple players in that, in the second area, I think that was kind of one of their Achilles heel almost this year, but in that in special teams was just a lack of lockdown cornerbacks and so I would say this doesn't necessarily

even take them out of the running for a quarter in the first round with the pick that they still have. Maybe it's not the favor anymore, but I think they could still do that. I totally agree with that. You need cornerbacks to add rushes, you need a bunch to win a super ball, but speaking

of Achilles heels, the coach put the transition tag on Dale Jones. So we can go through that first. I have to make a me a culplow because I totally botched the transition tag explanation and we could go, Craig got a botched it and then I corrected him to the wrong thing, which was really funny, but it isn't incredibly complicated, so Craig I don't really want

to mansplate it to you. I think you want to explain the transition tag and I wanted to rupture this time. I mean, it's like every day, I have to remind myself how it works. But I do think I have it in the transition tag is so rarely used. Basically, I think to put it simply, the transition tag allows you to get a player for

cheaper. It's like the franchise tag, when you get to get the player for cheaper, however, the difference is, is that that player can get an offer from another team. And if they leave to go to that other team, in the Colts don't match, the Colts don't get anything in return.

“The franchise tag you have to pay more for more exclusivity.”

Basically, to franchise tag Daniel Jones, you got to pay him 47 million and basically

no other team can have him because if they wanted him, they would have to give the Colts to first-run picks, which nobody would do. The transition tag is, instead of paying Daniel Jones 47 million to get to pay him 36 million, but another team could come in and match that offer and then he could go to that other team if the Colts didn't want to pay the same amount, but the Colts wouldn't get anything

in return. Because it's less money, but they're basically saying no one else is going to pay him this money. No one else is going to pay Daniel Jones 36 million, so we're going to go with the cheaper option.

I think I'd rather someone to show it. It is kind of something that I've been thinking about. I don't know who else is going to be making a big time offered Daniel Jones. Well, I mean, he broke his leg and tore his Achilles in this way. Which, by the way, I completely forgot he broke his leg first.

Well, I thought he tore his Achilles. It was broken. It's like he didn't break it. It was, there was a break in the leg, it's not like the leg is broken. He was playing on it while broke.

There's a small fracture. A crack. Really. Can you? And then they were like, again, then the Colts said, well, we don't think it can

get worse. And don't forget that Daniel Jones's college roommate at Duke created a company where you can scan your leg and design a brace. I don't remember what the company was. But Daniel Jones said that he had was playing with this brace that his college buddies

“designed and they're like, how do they, when did they fly up here and measure you for it?”

He said, no, no, I, I just scanned my leg with their app and then two weeks later he tore his Achilles. So the default. I don't know. No, no, no.

I'm not saying that. But it probably wasn't great for their company. Craig, you said this is rare. It's literally only happened one other time. It was really rare.

It's really rare. It's really rare. And then two weeks later he tore his Achilles. So that's all. I don't know.

No, no. I'm not saying that. But it probably wasn't great for their company. Craig, you said this is rare. It's literally only happened one other time.

It was really rare. It's gone up a little bit in the last whatever it is 30 years. So that's great. Well, the cap. First of all, I believe, you said 1996 was the entire cap per team, even the Mount

Dale Jones is getting paid this year.

I bet it wasn't $40 million.

The entire team. Hold on. I want to look at that. It's probably $40 million. But certainly wasn't $48 million.

Let's see. The 96 cap was $40.8 million. Wow. Holy shit. That is crazy.

Well, that's the thing we don't talk about, these DNA files in good investment. Yeah. God. Again, it's up to $300 million. What is it?

$301 million. It's like I'm watching Madman and it's like Don Draper is a supportment of the West side overlooking the park and he's like, what'd you pay for it, Don? He's like $70,000. I'm like, I'm going to fucking die.

She's safe. Thank you though. But yeah, the Daniel Jones thing, it's weird to have a quarterback that it seems. How many quarterbacks in history are you like, oh, yeah, we'll give you top five money this year.

Like anyone else wants you. It's you really got to thread the needle, I have something like that. But there's a reason because the cult obviously just, they were started 8 and 2 and Daniel Jones has to actually lead the league and passing ours through 10 games, which is crazy.

success was based in large part on mobility.

So what is the argument that he's going to succeed is a pure pocket passer off the Achilles without the mobility. We just saw Kirk cousins and Rogers come back, neither them played that well off their Achilles. They're older.

“But the other thing, and I think it's important, remember Daniel Jones has always been”

hurt every year of his career, list of his injuries. I tough. So just, I, I, it's hard to do it quickly, but Daniel Jones broke his clavicle senior year at Duke. He had a high ankle strain, clavicle, yeah, he broke his clavicular.

Well, he's wrong. He's wrong. He's wrong smashed. His bone smashing into a wrong. Exactly.

He was the original bone smashing. He was the original bone smashing. He was the original bone smashing. All right, happens in the best of us. It's not even the top four bone injury this guy's had, but no, he's, he's, look, he had

a neck injury with a giant's that lingered for three years. He had high ankle sprains, he tore his ACL, then the giant's, he had, they got benched by the giants at the end of his career, just so the giants were like, we're so afraid you're going to get hurt. We're going to have to pay you more money if you're injured.

So that was like, the only healthy stretch is being benched. Then he goes through the cults, revives his career, breaks his leg, and tears his Achilles. So yeah, he's a younger than Kurt Cousins by a decade, but he's coming off of all this, and even if you think he could get back to the form he had in the first half of last

season, he said, one healthy year, like, 10 years.

So real quick, is this a, we're going to pay you $37 million, you're going to be on the

“tag for this season, or is this a stalling strategy to get a longer term deal signed?”

Do you think? Yeah. Both. They have until July 15th to do a long-term deal with just their team, except Jones has this weird thing, but I don't think anyone else can negotiate with them.

But then if you don't sign the deal, but July 15th, they have to plan the one-year deal for the number we're talking about, all the teams kind of want to do the long-term deal for the most part. It's just what the zero on your cap, right? Yeah.

Yeah, because that's the thing. You can't push the money in the future if you're the team, and they want the team control. So I deal probably gets done, you'd say. I think, so if you're Daniel Jones, yeah, at some point you have enough money, you don't

you just want to be a starting quarterback in the end. Yeah. I was going to say, he'll probably take less money to stand the call to take good situation it works for him, like he was barely, he was almost a backup quarterback a year ago, and it's like you probably just take a deal.

Yeah. I think that's probably smart, so. Which, and now that means Alec Pierce cannot be franchise tagged, the receiver for the call. The call cannot tag him, because you only get one tag, so now he's kind of on the open market.

I kind of think the Alec Pierce market is getting a little out of hand, to use a bill Simmonsism, we need a little bit of settled down juice. I think Craig, I was going to say the exact same thing. I think he's a good player. I think he's a good player.

A complimentary player, a really skilled talented deep threat. He's good, but I'm like 25 million out, $30 million for fucking Alec Pierce is crazy. Especially like if the Patriots are not going to do that, I'm telling you, there's no way they're going to give it. So Stefan Diggs is going to be released from the, the paths, so they have no receivers.

They need to make a move of wider receiver. What do you say about back Collins? Is Matt going to be on the team? There's no way that they center their, their wide receiver cap space around Alec Pierce, as their, as their number one for $29 million a year.

I think that's crazy. It's a good reminder, Freish.

I would rather give a first for AJ Brown to be honest than give Alec Pierce $30 million

a year. So this is probably our last episode before the big Freishiansy deals go down in the same way that the combine we go in and we're like, look, you know, these guys have run in drills, all the big stuff's already been done, they played their games, the tape, it's like, we shouldn't change our opinions that much.

Then we go to the combine, we're like, oh my god, that you see how high they jumped, that's crazy. And like, we kind of forget everything we said, Freishiansy's the same thing where I'm sure next week will be lengthy. Yeah, we're just like, oh my god, these teams are so much better now. But the thing with Freishiansy is, it is all the entire structure.

Of the NFL is the way they design the way the employment works is to let teams keep their best players. Like every step of it is designed for teams to keep their good players. So the teams that players that reach Freishiansy are players that more or less team saw every single day for four to five years, day in and day out and decided, nah, we're good, yeah.

“And like you have to be, you have to understand why they reach Freishiansy because it might”

be, they're really good, but they're not the same, they're injury, they're like, we're worried about future injuries, maybe they're not the same player. Now sometimes when it's like, Milton Williams leaving the Eagles last year, we're just like, they actually have crazy amount of talent and they actually can't play them because they just have too many good players.

That's good. Schemefit, new scheme totally different doesn't fit there anymore. That's like a good reason you want to find those guys or just the team made a mistake. But then there are things where you got to wonder like, okay, are the cults, is it like they have to pay too many people?

They have other receivers, they're going to cut pitmen, whatever, or is it situations where like, oh, the cults actually don't think out of Pierce's worth that, and you have that's what the conversation is over and over.

guy is like, why is this guy here? Like Ken Walker for the Cooke's Ticket, the Cooke's did not franchise tag Ken Walker. That's a good example of like, I don't think he's anything wrong with Ken Walker. He's had some foot issues, sure, but it's more like, yeah, the Cooke's won the Super Bowl. They have like six really good defenders on the best defense in the NFL.

They have to bring back, and they might not want to spend $14 million on running back. And I don't think it says they have a Ken Walker, but how do you feel the Cooke's not bringing back Ken Walker? I mean, I would be very disappointed, I'm probably going to end up being very disappointed that he leaves because I think his market is going to be stronger than they are willing

to pay for him. And I think to go along with what you're saying in terms of like, it does say something

that these players are reaching for agency because for the most part, not always, but in a lot

of cases, teams that have a strong conviction about a player and the long-term sort of prospects around him and building around him, typically, it deals done like a year early.

“That's why they're extending these guys before they even get to free agency with Walker.”

He's not a perfect player. I mean, he's been hurt. I think outside of the season, every single season in his career, they didn't even really want to make him a, every down running back this season, particularly because I think of the injuries, they didn't really trust him to stay healthy throughout the whole season,

so they were load managing him as the season went along. So the complicating thing and the reason I think they're going to lose him and free agency is because Sharberday got hurt and then they gave all these touches to Walker and he finally showed what he could really do. He lived up to his potential and he lived up to everything I thought he would be or could

be. It was just kind of like too late for the C-Hox and that's sort of one of the, it's one of the downsides to success, honestly, like if he had, you know, twist his ankle and kind of just like, limped into the playoffs and whatever, like he probably would stay in Seattle,

but that didn't happen and he was actually really, really critical for them down the stretch.

So super, literal, super bowl MVP. I mean, he was literally the super bowl MVP, he made some incredible runs, like, look at some of the touchdowns against the Rams that he scored. I don't think very many running backs do that, so this is why I'm going to be very disappointed, but I think you're over going to be like downside of success.

It's like if he had tweaked his ankle if all of these still, it's like, they might not have won the Super Bowl truthfully, if he would have done that, they could have been in big trouble.

“So that's why I'm very disappointed that they might lose him, but yeah, I think over our”

two point is what you're saying is you kind of have to look at every individual situation, not all free agents are super risky, but generally speaking overall, free agency is full of landmines. I mean, there's just so many guys that have signed big money contracts and then not done anything.

I mean, look, with Ken Walker, like Bella check, let's Ken Walker go, this, this is probably the last. This is the right move. I think from Seattle, because it's, first of all, it is incredibly rare that these Super Bowl MVP does not return to the team the next year, like that does not happen

very often, but the fact that he was in the last year of his deal, the first three years of his deal, he was, he was good, showed flashes, but was hurt, was okay. And then basically, just was like the Joe Flacko of running backs for four weeks in the playoffs. It's kind of like, I don't want to say best case scenario for Seattle, but it's like, we got him on a great deal.

He helped us win the Super Bowl, and now we don't have to pay him all this money. And I don't, like, if he go, if, if, if, if Washington signs him, like, I'm not going to immediately think that Ken Walker is now like a top seven running back in the NFL. Well, I like Ken Walker and he's really good, but because of what we've seen, like, above a month ago, or two months ago, how did we feel?

Well, about Ken Walker. We thought it was good.

“We did not think he was like, oh, I see why is he market setting running back?”

Yeah. Foot injuries are a big part of it.

Someone who's team, let's say, one, partly go for $12 million a year to the division

rival Eagles, and then watch them give $12 million a year to Darious Slate. Yeah, but the, the, the, the locks are the reverse, they already got the Super Bowl with take one, and now they're letting him go. Yeah. I understand, it's just the important thing to remember is Seattle still needs a running

back. So it's, like, that was what it is. Because, Zach Sharberny, towards ACL, and I don't think Zach Sharber is going to be on the field for a game until after Thanksgiving. So George Alonni, and like, they need to go get a running back, and that's going to

cost them, like, $5 million. So it's about what we do with the other night. And again, we're recording this Wednesday. This looks could sign Ken Walker to long-term deal, because they still can, like, Ronnie stay on the left tackle for the Ravens.

Good example. Everyone thought it was going to free agency, like, the right before free agency started. They can still reach a deal. It's just one of those, you could go to free agency, do you really want to leave? And that's kind of the question for Ken Walker, which it depends, some people are like,

yeah, you're running back, you could go easily go to free agency, I'm sure Ken Walker could get a deal for roughly $30 million over two years, like, like, 15 million, easily. 15 million here. Franchise takes, like, 14.3. The question is, would you rather, be Ken Walker, like, do you want to take, like, 80%

of that and try to win another Super Bowl? And which there's an argument that if you do, that actually on the back end, like, look at how much money, Marshall on Lynch has made, being Marshall on Lynch for Amazon Prime, or whatever. For two, and did you get Postgreed?

No. Yeah. But I don't think so. You get a bonus for winning the Super Bowl. Yeah.

But I'm sure you got it. You got it. You guys know that you get rings, even if you win, you lose the Super Bowl. Well, you get, you get, you get, you get ASC and FC Championship rings, yes, you get it. So the Super Bowl winners only get the Super Bowl, but the Patriots get a conference championship

ring. And there was this funny story and ESPN, you know how I know that? No. Ace Ventura. Oh, my God.

Yeah. Yeah. The FC Championship ring. Speaking of which, the Ace Ventura Rino that he calls out of the team, is available. I know.

I got to get Bill on that. Do you think Bill would buy the Rino? Craig, can you, can you like come out of that for every, rewatchables? That's my producer, Chair. I mean, the Rino.

They get, like, a camera in there and you're like, fight out. You're just getting into it, sweating in there.

“I actually thought you should have talked more about Villanueva's directing in Sicario.”

You just cross that. Oh, my God. I thought Sicario is too long. I'm going to text Bill immediately. We need to have.

We need to have. We need to have this happening. Uh, bring back the 90 minute comedy. Anyway, continue about the ring. I'm real quick, though.

I think looking at the running back position in particular, because I think one of the reasons I'm feeling pre-confident that Walker will leave.

Number one, John Shire is already coming out and saying, basically, at the combat, he said

something like, we have Walker knows we love him, blah, blah, blah, but we've got 70 guys we got to take care of. John's that are also said he lied at the Super Bowl parade when he said, you made Walker just asked me for race, because he said I was drunk and I was nervous and I made it up.

He tried to make the joke. He tried to make the joke in a didn't land and everyone was like, oh, look, oh, among us. Yeah. We're in glass house.

Shooter shoot. Right.

“But I think the other thing to keep in mind here, and this is the reason I think”

that the Texan straighted three picks to get David Montgomery is that this running back class in July, draft is really weak. And there's also not that many running backs on the free agent market. It's basically Brisol was franchise, so he's not going anywhere. Travis CTN, I think is the next best running back on this list other than Walker.

And then after that, you got kind of, in John's day when he was already resigned with that guy was, you got Rico Dattell who has like this linseanity run where he was awesome for four games. Why does nobody want to say Kenneth Gainwell's name? That kid is a good role player and a team that's going to pass him the ball.

I don't think he's as he is or making him out to be. He's great. Can he's a good task catching back? Kenneth Gainwell was the single best player in the Pittsburgh Steel. [LAUGHTER]

Can I have like the play, I mean, I had a hard bar. I fucking mean that. Oh, the playoff making Pittsburgh Steel is the best player on that team. He's that Lions, the catch he had, it was like probably the play of the season. 100%.

But DK, I mean, I, look, obviously, if you could keep Kenneth Walker, you shouldn't that be great. But you want to know who you have too many defenders. You got to focus on the defense first. Yeah.

The Seahawks have multiple edge players that are free agents. Boy, I'm off a, they also have two corners, Rekwollin and Josh Job. They have a couple of other guys that they probably would rather resign or sheet of heat.

I think it's probably a focus for them. So there is, that's the problem. Again, this is like what happens every year with Super Bowl teams. Their players get like this extra little bonus for being in the Super Bowl. And they earn more in for agency.

The guy that I've seen rumors connecting the Seahawks to is Tyler Algear. To me, the going from Kath Walker to Tyler Algear is not just right.

But Algear is going to cost you just $1 million a year.

That's just the thing to remember is it's not going to save you $14 million. It's going to save you like seven. So you're trying to get a player and it's going to be, yeah, it just all comes down to the like the defense and it's just prioritizing which players are more valuable and the defense versus kind of like here's the reason though that I would argue

that maybe the Seahawks should bring Ken Walker back. And it's Wednesday and I won't be shocked if the Seahawks sign Ken Walker to like 13 million a year or 12 million a year or whatever. And he just wants to be there is like, so here, I'm going to pull up a contract. So we were just saying where the salary cap 30 years ago was $40 million per team.

Now Daniel Jones gets transition tagged for 38 million and like some, you know, some players Josh Allen makes 55 60 million. Just showed Watson makes $46 million. You guys think if he was cut he wouldn't even play for anyone else. So it's, you know, to me, it's inflation.

Yeah. Just to give you an idea, do you remember Todd Gurley got that big contract extension

“from the Rams, like 2018, do you know how much that was for?”

It was for 14.4 million dollars a year. Okay. Oh wow.

Ken Walker's 14.4, $14.5 million dollars.

The number hasn't changed. This is the point to me is that the whole running mex don't matter much. We've heard it for like eight or nine years now. So it's totally plateaued. Every other position has stayed as a percentage of the cap.

No, it doesn't matter. It's the same position of the cap. It's just the inflation running backs relative to inflation, like TV. You're like, this is the cheapest that's ever been. What is that?

Yeah. What is getting paid the same as the top five running back now? Pre-shaul's getting paid the same as Todd Gurley was eight years ago. So it's an argument that it's a value.

“That's why the Eagles who went want to superl Jay and Jay as a running back, then won”

another one the say one because they're like, this is a good deal now. If they can keep him, they should. It just depends on what. Yeah. They haven't been situations like.

Exactly. So we'll hit that next week. We'll cover a bunch of free agency stuff. Other things we want to just hit. Other guys that were French as tagged was Kyle Pitz.

We talked about the Falcons, the same thing, just he's a tight end. It's like the tight end price is good because the French is the top five average of the position. So just to put a number on it.

So Kyle Pitz, the actual price of French as tagging Kyle Pitz for the Falcons is $15 million,

$15. That is a top five tight end. That would be the 25th highest paid receiver. So the other receivers in that rage are like Darius, Slayton, Darnell, Mooney, Rashad Baton, Rashad Baton, Cooper Cup, Jerry Judy.

Yep. So it's like the fact that it's good to be a receiver. It's good to be a receiver and then a fellow last year, I think, 22 at Will made 10, 10 mil. Yeah. It'll be like inactive half the time.

This is what Jimmy Graham tried to argue that he was a receiver. Yeah. So yeah, Breeze will all go back to the jets, which is the same thing. It's kind of like if you left, you make more money. Kyle was officially French as tagged George Pickins.

We've talked about for that's one year, 27 million. But do you think a deal happens there? I don't know. It's funny because he's David Mullogetta is the same agent that Michael Parsons had and everyone's kind of like, oh, it's out there over it.

Like, it's not about that. That's a good question, Craig. I kind of don't think they get a deal, don't pickins. I don't know. It's one of the cowboys got in the head of contract.

It's basically has an attitude.

They want to drive this out for clicks. For content. Jerry's making content over here. He's going to end it. You don't think Jerry wants all this stuff.

You don't think he wants 40 days of us talking about, oh, George Pickins contract here. What happens? He wants that on first take. I know. I can't tell this, but if that would motivate Pickins or make him give up.

“I think they tag him and tell you something.”

I think they tag him again next year. Oh. They're rare double tag. Because it's 120% or not 120%, it's 20% raise. So it's 30%.

I double dogged. They're you. Double dogged. So I think they did it to tag. They tagged back two years in a row and said that was stupid and it was, but they didn't

anyway. Man, just say him. Okay.

You know who the other free agent receiver that I'm very interested to see where he goes

is Mike Evans. It sounds like he's going to actually explore free agency. I don't know if that will happen, but there's been more reports lately that he kind of wants to, he might not want to come back to the book. And here's this could be just him sort of leveraging it.

But yeah. And he wants to be on a team that's good. Right. Who doesn't, but like, you know, Mike Evans is like, he might have to go over to actually do it.

Yeah. Like he should go to, I mean, the Niners or something like that would make sense. Yeah. Stan, the NFC West. We got enough people over here.

You're fine. You just won. I thought it was super cool.

“Can you start acting like you want to super bowl for two seconds?”

You're like, oh, I hate the ram. So you know what the ram's hate you more? Did you see what you did to the ram's the share? Fair. Fair.

What's stronger? Love of your team or the hatred of your, you know, opponents? Oh my god. The water. The thrill of winning is not even come close to the despair of losing.

The most relatable thing that whole quarterback thing on Netflix was in KirkGus, and so it was like, honestly, when I lose, it's crushing. And when I win, it's mostly just the relief I didn't lose. Right. It's like, oh, that just means I didn't lose for another week.

Yeah. I guess I think about wins. It's like, you would, like, I, I won the dinosaur league that we're in, which I'll now just keep reminding you guys of, because one year I won and DK didn't remember who won.

He asked me who. Have you, have you won before that? Have you? Three of one years and you haven't ever remembered. It's time to start talking.

I'm kind of working though, so be aware of that. Craig, I actually. For the record. What's ironic is like, my team is the Pittsburgh Steelers of Dinosaur Tatives. Like, I'm just kind of nine and eight every year.

Socks. Yeah. The Warriors have two timelines. You have no time lens. I've thought.

Who would like to take his Dinosaur Tief Fisher. I'm in hell. I'm in hell. I just got to get hot in the playoffs one year. We were joking after the draft.

We're doing an entire episode that's just only our Dinosaur league and we won't even try to make it accessible. If you don't play Dinosaur, we'll just only do our league. We actually try to make it the worst content possible. I hold my phone up to the camera.

Yeah. And I'm like, here's my roster. I have lad McConkey, Terry McCleuron, Dave squinting. Nate Tyson's in the league too was free Nate. And I was just only talking about our league.

Yes. Anyway, other, oh, so this trait, this report's been out there for a week. We might as well talk about it. The cardinals are going to cut or trade Kyler Murray by Wednesday and this is just the keep leaking into whatever.

Kyler Murray won't be on the cardinals. I want it. It's been out there for a while. I want to just play a game with you guys, okay.

I want to go my rankings of where I kind of want to see Kyler Murray go for just like gut check. But I also want to just be clear about saying, so Kyler Murray, he's going to get cut probably,

but the cardinals are still going to have to pay him like $36 million.

So he's going to be like Russell Wilson Russell Wilson going to the Steelers. We're Kyler Murray's going to play for like $1 million. And then because the team that pays him has to offset the salary. So if Kyler signed for like $20 million, the cardinals would only have to pay him like $16, I believe.

So they're just going to sign, Kyler's getting the same amount of money no matter what. So he's going to sign for the minimum and then the cardinals pick up the bill. So anything could pay him. It doesn't matter what cap situation you're going to give him the leverage to really go wherever he wants.

Yes. But question though, because I understand that, that if Vikings pay him $20, that means the Cardinals will have to pay him $16. But Kyler is, we can get into this.

“I think Kyler is kind of clearly the same darn old of this season, not stylistically.”

But Kyler to me is, I'm starting to change my opinion on him.

And now I'm like, man, Kyler Murfer, 1 million bucks is kind of great.

And if you put him on the fucking Vikings, I'm like the, could the Vikings go 13 and 4 with Kyler Murray. I kind of think they could. Kyler Murray is like proven first overall pick. He's a proven physical talent.

Like he has tools. He is a rare scramble. He has a fantastic arm, like even though he's been a disappointment. You know, in the same way that Donald struggled for a while, but everyone thought Donald sucked. I don't know if we think Kyler sucks in the same way. Donald sucks.

I think with Kyler, it's like a little bit more like Caleb Williams when we're like, we don't know if it's like an effort thing or if he's mentally all there does he care. And then Ben Johnson comes in and it's like football boot camp and turns Caleb Williams around. If Kyler Murray just goes to Kevin O'Connell and Minnesota, could they just immediately

be fucking great? They're a dome team, Kyler Murray with Justin Jefferson. I'm like, my whole point, if it's is, is there a chance that it's a, it's a, it's a mini bidding war on Kyler. Like could, could the Vikings be like, hey, what give you five, maybe if another team

would give you one, maybe we'll give you two or three because we do want you and that's still a great deal. Yes, this is a short answer, but I don't think there's a bidding war. I think that the short, so to take what you said in order, I agree with everything you're saying.

And I think that Kyler is the same darn old of this year. And then I think the lesson from Sam Darnold is for these crazy talented guys that were failed by battle organizations, keep taking bets on them, whether it's Baker, whether it's Donald, whether it's Kyler, whether it's whoever if you take bets on them, if you are a good organization.

“Yeah, ideally, you should try the jets, I don't think you take a bet on Kyler Murray.”

No, the Vikings, so 100%. In that sense, Kyler Murray is still a number one pick that was to whatever extent failed by the Arizona Cardinals who are considered one of the cheaper organizations, and frankly, they're just not at the level of the other teams to the NFC West. So it makes sense to bet on Kyler.

He is also stylistically though, the exact opposite of Sam Darnold, where Sam Darnold became a great guy for this, like, McVay, Shannon, and system, whatever you want to call it. And I think Kyler is not that at all. So on to your point, so I want to get into the team fits in his second, but to your point about the money, I don't think there's a bidding war for Kyler.

Instead of money, because Kyler is going to make 37 million.

I don't think he's getting signed for more than that this year. If you're Kyler, what you do is you negotiate for no trade clause, no franchise tech. So what Kyler is, we see really hebillotates is career. If Kyler, at the end of year from now or 11 months from now, whatever, we're like, oh my God, Kyler dragged the Vikings to the conference championship game, and wow, they got to keep

him now. No franchise tag, no thing, and Kyler is like, cool, we're back to where I was. So I want 58 million dollars to give me travel warrants is contract, and you get a quarter of billion. But so Kyler negotiates the ability to do this again next year, bets on himself, and then

picks a spot he can succeed. So I don't think it's money right now. It's control, and then the money comes if he plays well.

“But do you think there are multiple teams you could offer that control?”

I want to go through those teams right now. So I think when you look at it, in terms of who wants Kyler Murray, I'm torn. Everyone points them in a soda. There are three teams that you just look at, you're like those three teams. Minnesota, because as you said, Dome, Kyler Murray, Jordan Justin Jefferson, Jordan

Addison, TJ Hawkins, and Kevin O'Connell, is that coach makes sense. Atlanta Falcons, where you're like, oh my God, like Drake London, B. John Robbins and Kyle Pitz, the way you feel, Kevin Stephanski is that coach, like Dome team, energy south, winnable. My anti-donalds.

So Kyler Grister, Lyra, Kyle Pitz is back on the bed. So with the players, you're like, that's actually a crazy collection of talent with all those guys. Kyler Murray at the end of the day was still a top 10 pick in the M.B. draft, and you know, no more baking in a fell.

I don't actually think Kyler is a stylistic fit for any of those teams. And Stephen Ruiz, I think nailed us. He had a great column at the ringer.com this week, where he explained. But I totally grew Stephen, the Vikings, they totally could do it, because the Vikings

And the Vikings might be like, we'd rather bed on Kyler. But everything the Vikings do is like, under center, play action, middle of the field. That's kind of what the Falcons do. And Kyler doesn't do that. Kyler is like shotgun, quit game thrown to the outside.

That's all fair, but I'm like, you know what else the Vikings are, they're fucking desperate. And so they could. I'm not playing it out. But I'm saying if the Vikings don't, it's either Kyler or Richard said.

I guess you could do that. Kirk.

Yeah, so here's the thing.

And we could go through this. But the Falcons are dissimilar spot where it's like the Falcons, like Kyler's getting, he did not work with the Cardinal Sastia, right? And Drew Petting was an offensive coordinator. Stephen made a great point about this.

Drew Petting worked for Kevin Stephansky for nine years. And they literally decided we'll stash Kyler Murray on IR with an injuries healed from rather than play Kyler. So if Drew Petting, who worked for Stephansky for nine years, couldn't do it. Why would Stephansky at the Falcons?

I don't know if it makes sense. So here's the thing. I don't know, Craig. Can you think of a team that is like really like into shotgun, quick game with vertical

“shots to the outside, doesn't really do middle of the field?”

Is there anyone that comes to mind I can't really think? I would happily accept Kyler Murray for $1 million in the Steelers. And of course, can you think of a team that had a history of doing quarterbacks that signed a quarterbacks that had a million dollars after the old teams playing the money anyway? Yeah.

And it's nice to know that no matter what happens, they will go nine and eight and be a wild card team. So why not try it again with Kyler Murray? Yeah, sure. The McCarthy, Mike McCarthy, the system.

Why not? Take it. We're not just stead on Pat McAfee today, he was like, yeah, maybe I'll come back and even won't. If I'm in Mike McCarthy, I want fucking Kyler Murray.

And I don't own more con the GM said at the combat and won aFC North quarterback, which I thought was code for I don't want anyone under $5.11, but DK, am I crazy? I think the Steelers should go get Kyler Murray. I think it makes way more sense from the play for Mike McCarthy. And what they do, then you know, the Atlanta Falcons.

Right. I think I could talk myself into it, it doesn't feel like a good, it doesn't feel like the right connection. It's the cold weather team, like you said, the NFC or the AFC North, sort of like the personality they're looking for at the core of acquisition.

What big slow. Immobile. Tuff and Gritty. Yeah. Great effort.

Great. Cool for the Steelers to have a quarterback who could move faster than the speed of smile. I think it would be.

So here's what I'm hearing.

Here's what I'm hearing. If you're a Pittsburgh Stealer, you don't give a fuck that the team was graded the worst in the NFL and pretty much every category in the NFL P ever, that is the, that is the, that is the best dealer. It doesn't matter.

There's five toilets. All right. We got six rings. And that's what matters. You have more Super Bowl championships than toilets in the fucking locker room.

They don't know. Kyler wants to be there. They're not coddling their players. They're tough and them up. Kyler's like, wait, they don't charge you for box lunches here.

We're building men. We're building men.

“I think he would make a lot of sense for the Steelers.”

I just am not sure the Steelers would go for it because of all the said, you know, rationale, I guess what they look for. You just, it was like, we don't, you can't put your finger on what a Steelers player is. You just know it when you see it. It's like porn, you know?

I think he even said something right along those lights, not the porn part. But he's like, you can't quite, you can't quite define it. But you can just tell if it players the Steelers. How evil. Kyler is as far from a Steelers I can imagine.

You see that, that's completely true. However, you can make the case that maybe the Steelers need to abandon everything they've known about what they think is a Pittsburgh Steeler because they can't win a fucking playoff game. I also don't know if I would have stepped down. He's not there anymore.

Yeah, I mean, Mike McCarthy, you know, I still think that like I would be most excited if he goes to the Vikings. I'd be like, oh, Kevin O'Connor's going to make that work.

So I have the Vikings first.

That's the offense they run, but that doesn't mean they can't run an offense that you sort of cater to his totally skill set. The Vikings and Falcons are weirdly similar to me because there are teams with one really cool jerseys and a Kyler would look great as a Viking, look great as a Falcons, especially when they go throwbacks, both dome teams, both an embarrassment of riches of first-trumpicks

at the skill cool fantasy positions. And then stylistically, it's like a six months of will this coach be able to make this work because Kyler can't throw over the middle of the field because he can't see over his O like. But like he's really good at other things, and it's, so I'm, I'm torn.

It makes sense on paper, but I don't know if it makes sense of relief for both Vikings and Atlanta.

“I agree, the Steelers might not want Kyler Murray, but I think unquestionally schematically.”

And then the jet, so the cart, ironically I still keep thinking about the freaking Cardinals bringing Kyler back. I'm like, they can't, but the jet's... Cardinals. No.

Well, if Kyler was getting cut by the cults, you'd be like Arizona easy money. That's the best team for them. But like... You guys mentioned what he'd look like in that Atlanta jersey that maybe start taking. I feel like this.

You guys tell me if I'm wrong. The Cardinals uniforms look different than any other uniform in the NFL. You mean, like, like, it gives like a renaful ball vibe? They like, yeah, and they also fit differently. I swear to God, like the sleeves are just built, they're just like designed differently.

So in Kyler, probably more than any player in the NFL has a unique body type and his,

I just want to see what he looks like in a different uniform. It's going to be, he might look completely different. There's just what he really needs. Look good, feel good, play good, you know? Right.

Officially this summer, when it's the real offseason, do the jersey power ranking. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's a good call. Kyler is also like an all-time ratio of how many players, which you have to just eyeball

until you're like, which one of these, one of these guys was drafted in the first 10 picks

of baseball and football, which guy, you might go through a thousand players before you got to Kyler Murray. Right. If you didn't know anything about sports. Yeah.

We decided the Vikings are the most, the one we liked the most, what do you think is the coolest? What do you think is the most likely?

“If Kyler, Kyler is too, Kyler, I think you should go play baseball for Wisconsin Valley”

of Water, which is where he goes to play for the Jets. The dolphins are this interesting one because there's everybody was sort of connecting with like Willis to the dolphins, but it sounds like they don't have enough money to sign with like Willis. Well, you rather have, could Craig's point, if the money is equal, you go Kyler.

And I think if you're Kyler, you go Miami over the Jets, anyway, we can go to the Jets. Yes. So Miami, I think is a real, I think Miami is a real option here. If they can't afford Willis, which it sounds like they can't. No.

Okay. So I think that, I think that makes sense. Can we all, let's all make predictions. Where is he going to go? This is tricky because I agree.

I think Minnesota Atlanta Miami and Pittsburgh, all of those, in theory, makes sense.

And I guess the Jets. Miami to go Miami. I don't think the Viking's thing's going to happen. I agree it would be cool, but I don't know if Kevin McConnell wants that. Maybe it does.

I'm wrong. They're so excited now. Obviously trying to move on from JJ McCarthy at this. Yeah. And maybe they do.

Craig, Malcolm's razor is Craig's right, and that Kevin McConnell's like, I'll figure it out. And they can build around Kyler in Minnesota, but I kind of do wonder if Kyler just goes to Miami or Frank. I kind of think the students think makes sense.

Yeah. Miami dealers think. I'm just saying, I agree. I don't want it. I want it.

So bad. So we can dig up the old clips of Craig saying, no way in hell. I don't want Kyler. Tingers in a row. Tingers in a row.

Tingers in a row.

“If every instant dive is wrong, God, Mike McCarthy in Kyler Murray, I'm like, where am I?”

What happened? Okay. Life comes at you fast. What's going on? But what I want to do now is not to be a student.

The master by day, Laptop, Bücher, Soft, Handy, Internet. So master is really great. I'm saying, you can say, you can draw the circle. Yeah. You're right.

But you won't do anything. Exactly. You're right. And if you do anything, you'll be able to do anything. You'll be able to do anything.

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“It takes 40 R-dash. So Prophopal talk wrote in article.”

So it's funny. Just call it Prophopal talk because Mike Flurry is Prophopal talk.

But anyway, they had an article that Mike Flurry wrote basically saying Adam Shepter, you know,

it kind of late the receiver from a house, state's probably the number of silver in this draft. Rana 45340 R-dash at the combine. But then all the scouts sitting in the stadium hand time to it. Adam Shepter was saying that a lot of scouts hand time to it at four or four or five seconds, not four or five three. But again, we're arguing over eight 100s of a second.

Number one, and all these people hand time it with their little thumbs arguing. So Mike Flurry was basically like called out Shepter for like, look, I'm sorry. All agents said this, blah, blah, blah. Then Adam Shepter, clap back and post it. By the way, screen shots of team people saying no, no, we had him faster.

By the way, Drew Rosenhaus is Cardinal Tate's agent. Yeah. This is the guy that Shepter cites Rosenhaus's Twitter account. Probably 75% of the time, so you know, tweet some about a team moving someone. So, but the other thing is, it is a response to Flurry.

He actually included one screenshot twice. Yeah, I say one twice. I'm like, but wait, here, I figured we can solve this right now. Can you guys do me a favor? Can you get out your phones?

Yeah, yeah. I have an idea. We're going to solve this. Oh, we're going to time it. Yeah.

Hell yeah. We're going to do it remotely and watch help. It works. So here, I'm going to put this up on the screen and we're going to solve this right now. Because there's a video that it was like, we need the side view that yeah, it's going

to happen. Just trust me. So I'm putting this up. I'm going to put this up. Tell me, gun user ready.

I have my stop watch. We're all going to hand time it right now. I'm ready. All right, T.K. Are you ready?

I'm ready. Okay. Is he going to go this neck and you hit player? Are we going to have a moment? No, no, no.

You're going to have like six or seven seconds. All right. This is killing me. That's awesome. So be ready.

All right. Oh. Boom.

I got four to two. He got four to two. He got eight. I got four three three. Wow.

I got a four to eight for Cardinal.

“I think that was a little late on the trigger there.”

That's crazy. Cardinal tape ran a four to eight and two. Come on. That's wild. That's wild.

Pretty good. Pretty good. I mean, we're talking flat. Look, combine record. You guys.

The fact that all of us were between four two and four three shows that this is pretty accurate. I think they likely like strong in time. He's pretty off. I don't know. I will say.

Maybe he was right. Four four four four four six four. There's no way it's a four five three. The best part about this is like these teams already know how good Cardinal tape is.

You're fucking matter. Stupid. I love or there you go. Here's the thing. Maybe the hand type.

Like you also I learned.

First of all, the idea of hand timing.

Patrick Klaibon posted this on Blue sky. The Olympics introduced electronic timing in 1968, which is. That's the year John Carlos and. Tommy Tommy Smith did the black power fist. That fucking Olympics was electronic time.

And the NFL in 2026, we're still having. It's been there at the end of the day. Eight. 1968. That's the career of mad men.

I'm watching. It's done. Draper and Roger Sterling try to pull in Jaguar and like they have electronic timing. They're not even wearing freaking seat belts in 1968.

This entire thing is both why the NFL is the dumbest sport. By far. And also awesome. The best. Yeah.

It's so. Yeah. There's just like 20 dudes with stopwatch is just standing there. Be like, I got it. Hold them out.

Four, four, seven. And it's like, oh, no, buddy, the computers can do this. And it's accurate every time. No. Yeah.

I could talk about that. Okay. Wait. I like last one thing here before Dick is much. I want to note.

Bears Center. Drew Dalman retired this week, which is crazy. He's 27 years old.

Just signed it for your deal for $42 million.

Drew Dalman was guaranteed $11 million in salary this year. We don't know exactly what happened. But I mean, football is a brutal game. So, Drew Dalman played all 19 games for the bearish this year. But who knows what happened.

But obviously if he's retiring at 27. That's crazy. But I mean, the bears remade their entire offensive line this season or Last off season. Kind of defined the year.

I thought. I thought before the series won the bootball, the story of the year, which Chicago reviving their online revived cannibaliums, revived football in Chicago. I mean, Joe 2D1, the protector of the year award.

Yeah. So, left guard Joe 2D1 protector of the year. They got right guard Jonah Jackson traded from the Rams in these signs. You're down and they remade their whole line. A bunch of teams are trying to copy it.

“And if you want to put the bear's season”

other than all the comeback wins and what happened. Caleb Williams was sect 44 fewer times this year than last year. Like, that's crazy. That's insane. To take 44 fewer sex.

So, the quietly the bears, I mean, obviously main priority here is I just hope Drew Dalman's like, okay, you know what I mean. But for the bears going for it, they kind of have to remake their online again. Because now they need a new center, a lot of teams need a center this year. And they're left tackle.

Ozzie Trapalo, sorry, Ozzie Trapalo, who was the second rounder that couple second rounder left tackles last year played really well. But he had a really bad knee injury against the packers in the playoff. So, he's probably out most if not the entire season. So, there's need a center in a left tackle.

Yeah. They might need to take another offensive win. Like, generally, another couple of offensive linemen. So, what you have been doing in your mock draft. Yeah.

Correct. So, with that said, let's go through the mock. Yeah, let's do it. D.K. Craig, and you feel free to pull the chain here on the bus if you want to stop anywhere. But I want to start with number seven.

You have the Washington commanders taking sunny styles. The linebacker from Ohio State. And the darling of the NFL draft, sunny styles. What do you think of this? I think it's, do you like it?

Do you dislike it? I love mocks, I'm actually the best. Like, every single pick I'd be like, "Yeah, nice." Yeah. We got to like, I can see that.

Can he start? Yeah.

“Is there a way that you can like pick out the most sexual term that I used or something like that to spice this up a little bit?”

Oh, that's the most sexual thing that you in. Don't worry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you say blue the doors off at Lucco's little field. Then blue the bloody doors off.

Then you go into adjacent. I just love the sunny styles as taller than like some of the offensive linemen. He was a safety. He was the six, five to safety. He converted to linebacker.

He played linebacker for two years. Yeah. And then he was the play caller. Look, I am not that Patricia's biggest fan. But like, it is an NFL defense that he's calling it.

I have a state and he's like play calling it. He, the fact that he's been a linebacker for two years. And he's just good as he's been. I don't know. Yeah.

There's always one generational whatever prospect that I suppose to transform the position and that kind of sucks.

And I'm kind of wondering who will be in this draft. But I, I think styles as a top ten pick makes total sense.

Things ridiculous. I think it's all flipped. It's, it's, it's. The idea of positional value implies that the market is like perfectly compensating people to their skill set. It's not a free-fucking market.

That's not how it works. Like, like, Fred Warner's not properly paid. Again, like, Jared Judy's making as much money as like Travis Kelsey for years. You know what I mean? It's not how it works.

“So also, do you want, do you want an premium position or do you want a high impact player?”

Exactly. I think he makes everyone better. It's not like a running back. It's different. I, I like this pickle.

Also, he's a, a Hall of Fame linebacker probably Bobby Wagner and Washington being replaced by Sunny Styles, at least a year of overlap. Whatever. The number eight one. This one was cheeky.

You have the New Orleans Saints taking Jeremiah love the running back from Notre Dame. Right. Alvin Camara.

This is me caving to hyphids is just whining that the, that Jeremiah love is going to go in the first round.

Or sorry, in the top ten and someone's going to pick them up there. Which, you know what, they're talking about him at number three to the Titans. Or a number four to the Titans. There's people talking about him to number three to the Cardinals. I don't see it, but you know what?

I'm not the one making the decisions. And he is one of the best players in this draft. And it is exactly what I just said. Do you want a big impact player or do you want a to go the more premium position route? I could say the Saints doing this purely because they want to, you know, put as much support

around their quarterback as they can. They can develop a, uh, tow truck, if they can develop tow truck into a, uh, you know, an above average starter and then a fellow that's incredibly valuable. They've put a lot of investments in their offensive line over the last few years. So they're getting, I think the pieces starting to get in place on the offensive line. They have Chris Alave, they've got, you know, some other skill players that are pretty interesting coming up.

And so getting a guy like Jeremiah love where again, I don't think I would do this, but you could make the argument. He's going to be a big time impact player in both the run game and the past game.

“So, um, I guess that's how you talk yourself into it, even though I don't know if I really believe this will happen.”

Every team that he goes to him like nice, that's awesome. I like, I can, there's like, every team in the top 10, I kind of want Jeremiah to go to. What if the giants take him at five? You're not going to make fun of the giants? No, that'd be kind of awesome.

Him injection dart and like neighbors and he's got him. He says, I, to be, I kind of think the titans are going to take him at four, which I know is insane, but I just, I still maintain that like. The free agent class for waters, even running back is bad. There's nobody for came word to give the ball to and I just think, you're like, I don't know. I don't know if they're going to go with Ruben Bane.

And I think Jeremiah love, I think, I feel like they're going to take him. You could, you could basically, you know, transcribe everything. I just said about the Saints and just put it over to the titans, like, oh, yeah, you know, get, get, develop your core back. Yeah, they're offensive line. I, I think you, it's weird because Jeremiah loves definitely good.

It's just like the vibe running back. But it's what I was saying before was like the money's leveled out. I think it's whether running back, make your team better. You need a line. Part of me is like, if you have an align, we talked over and over about.

I still think that you need to get an offensive line for you have a guy, but teams disagree. I will say that the, the, the player comparison I want to blatantly steal from Jeremiah.

“Is someone compared Jeremiah love to pre injury Darren McFadden?”

Again, 100% see that. Can I love that? A bright tall guy who's just a blazing fast. Darren McFadden before he had that hip injury was.

Outrageously good and an absolute top tier running back I never seen.

And like it was kind of like Kirkland brand Reggie Bush. Like he was, he was that freaking good. He did more injuries. But he also is like the Saints is kind of tall, like six feet tall. Right, nice posture. Right. He was six one to eleven.

He ran a four three three. That's I think exactly what love. What he rent four three six. I hand time chair in my love at four one eight. No.

Yeah. No. So. I can see that. If it's like that, actually.

I, I love, I Paul. I don't, someone said that to me at the calm. I don't remember who told me that. So I apologize, but I, I really stuck with me. But Jeremiah, I, I, I,

It's kind of like, genty last year where we're going to criticize this. It's like, he's really cool, but you probably want a good offensive line if you're going to do it.

But the Saints have spent a bunch of first jump picks on the offensive lines, so maybe they can.

But speaking of which, if guys just replacing players, you had Bobby Wagner and Washington, being replaced by sunny styles of landbacker. You have Alvin Camerra being replaced by Jeremiah Jeremiah, 11 New Orleans. Then you sandbagging son of a bitch. You have the Kansas City cheese taking Kenyan's to dig tonight and for Morgan.

He is combine performance with something special. I mean, this was truthfully one of the, I mean, it's funny with Eli Stowers. Like, two of the most athletic tight ends we've ever seen at the combine at least. Shades of now I'm forgetting his name. The tight end that played for the 49ers.

Vernon Davis. Vernon Davis. Like, they're pretty much the same height. Six three. Vernon Davis was a little bit heavier, but one of the most explosive athletes.

You know, an NFL history, basically. He was like 247 pounds right at four three. That was Vernon Davis.

And I already like Kenyan City before the combine.

“In terms of, I think he has the skills to be a two-way live-backer in the sense that you can keep him on the on the field and run situations.”

He's good enough blockers not like a lead blocker like grock, but he's going out there and he's he's getting blocks made and. You know, he's being useful in space in terms of like blocking and space. And so I think he's not totally. He's not in that move tight end only mold that you like you kind of like a team will get stuck this guy and not really know how to use it. He's a receiver.

He's a receiver. Calpets is like a perfect example. Camp lock. Calpets is like essentially receiver. But Calpets isn't like, especially after he got her a couple of times.

He's not beating guys one on one, like not. He's not winning against corners. Kenyan City is much more of a. Inline type of guy.

“And so I think he that's going to that's going to race his value.”

And then of course, I mean, when you when you see the athleticism that he put out there. Pretty special. And can't stress enough. How big has got them by steps are. We've talked to with this crack and you click on this specific photo. I was looking for this last time. I can't stress enough how big Kenyan City's arms are.

They're the big steps ever seen. That actually, that doesn't. That looks like his muscles are trying to get out of his skin. It looks like the scene in Alien right before it comes out of the chest, but in his by step. It's it's that photo is unbelievable.

Do you think DK that you feel confident that Kansas City's going to take an offensive player?

“No, because I think hyphids is kind of convinced me to that they do need upgrades on the defensive line.”

I didn't know if there was I think originally when I was putting this together.

I thought like maybe Caleb Banks is risen high enough because of his outstanding combine performance to to be in the first round of top 10 is really realistic.

And Peter Woods is the other defensive lineman that's like made a lot of noise, but he has really short arms. I don't know if he's a top 10 pick. He might fall down into the late part of the first round. So I just didn't really have a defensive tackle that I think kind of rose to that and then you know. I just was like man can you see she's makes a lot of sense for an offense that Xavier were the even though they drafted him. I still think they need a lot of speed in their offense. I mean, we're she rice.

We don't know what's going to exactly happen with him next year. They were one of the slowest offenses I felt like last year, particularly before Rice came back. And so just getting an infusion of speed at that Titan position it would make a lot of sense. I still think that she's leaving the top that what they hope is the only top to pick that she's make of the entire decade and not taking a big player trench player is a great mistake. Like if you want you want a great player ideally, but you do what the need to align.

Did you consider this a big player though? No, I meant like enlightenment. Like taking a tight end ninth. I mean, you know who's a great tight end Travis Kelsey.

They took him away. He was a third round pick. I just the idea that the chiefs could go and get a defensive tackle at the end or I or even an offensive lineman.

Like in this mock draft, you have Francis Margo to the Giants and you have sorry, Margo and then you have Spencer Fano, the Utah guy at six. I think the chiefs could even take Monroe Freeling like the Georgia tackle, who I think mixed reviews, but I just think kids a city needs to take. I mean, they cut you on Taylor the right tackle today, or at least they're going to Wednesday, March 4th. So like they need a right tackle. They have Josh Shims at left tackle, but I don't know. I just often think. You can get a lemon, but we'll say, I mean, either way, it's considered still looks weird to see them with the ninth pick.

I will say, there's sort of this, I think lingering. It's it's almost latent view that tight end is not worth a top 10 pick, but when you look at the last couple of years, you've got Brock Bowers last year. You have Colston, Lovelin and Tyler Warren. I don't remember exactly where Warren went. It was like 14 to 12 or 13. Yeah. So can you in city gets good? Can you in city gets not as good of a process? No, but I'm saying it's I'm not that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying there's teams that I've sort of still taking these guys really high in the draft if they think they can be, you know,

like big impact players for the offense. So yeah, I definitely would still have Bowers, Colston, Lovelin, Warren a little bit higher than City. But not like a lot, not like a ton. I Bowers to me was on this whole other tier, and then you've got Warren and Lovelin and what Lovelin did in the late part of the season. I'm like, man, he might be one of the best tight ends in the NFL full stop. Kyle Pitz was like the best tight end prospect in our lifetime, and then Brock Bowers was probably better, but no one wanted to say it because then they thought it would be like the boy who cried and will because Pitz was terrible at the time.

So they don't want to say how good Bowers was and then Tyler Warren and Colston, Lovelin, everyone was like these guys are great to and I think cutting to take is very much a tier below those guys, right in production and it's a prospect. You give the Dolphins Cartel Tate from a house state. Yeah, I like that. Well, yeah, because because we clocked a bit of 428, 422 flat for 422 flat for Cartel Tate. Yeah, yeah, they just need good players at this point, right? They're starting to lose all their good players.

Ooh, I like this game.

“So they obviously have jail and model. What are the other receivers? Can you name four wider severs on the Miami Dolphins?”

Oh, I can, because you read this list a few weeks ago and you said the name Theo Wees Jr. And I remember laughing at that. That is correct. Theo Wees. They've got multiple Washington's. They've got, oh, the League Washington's in Hawaii. I should charge Washington.

I kind of love the League Washington actually, right? Yeah. You know, Gabe, we should play next Craig not trying to not try to be an asshole here, but name receivers on the Steelers. How dare you? I don't know. Iron Rodgers can name dealers.

The receiver depth chart is something to behold. We're saving up. Yeah.

First you have DK Metcalf and that's it.

Well, I was going to have you guys do. Mahomes Kelsey and Chris Jones don't count name players on this chiefs who started the Super Bowl that are on the team still. That started the Super Bowl. Yeah, Mahomes Kelsey Chris Jones don't count guys who start chiefs who started the Super Bowl. First of the Eagles that are going to be on the team this season.

Carloftus. Yes. George Carloft. Nick Bolton. Yep. There you go. This is why I didn't do it, but it's kind of fun anyway. I mean, was she rice?

Was he not in the Super Bowl? Did he not start that game? I don't think he did. It's Kadone. Kadir is Tony. We're seeing these days.

“I guess started so we can't go with Noah Gray, right?”

No. Also us, us saying it's tough. It's getting tough already. The best moment in this show may be ever. And like people listening if you haven't been with us for a few years don't know is Craig and I have an argument that Craig's like,

Gadir is Tony will score two touchdowns. And I said, "Cridir is Tony will not play five steps." But it's almost three yards from both being right. Is like the funniest argument we've ever had. Creed Humphrey.

Yes. Okay. Trace myth. And Trace myth. That's it though. That's kind of the five and it'll give you Chamari Connor as the free space.

But like kind of it otherwise. Yeah. How about you give the Cowboys at number 12? You give them a Celtic flock. The Eddresher from Auburn.

And the Cowboys also picked 20th because of the Micaparsan's trade, the Coltner back from Tennessee. I think they're going to go defense. Because they traded away. They're very good defensive player to do this. Which one?

You know, this Eddresher guy. Micaparsan's got the Torn ACL. Really short. The Finance here. Oh, God.

I can't. It's can't play me towards ACL. Jerry knew. Jerry knew, Jerry knew he had a degenerative ACL. He doesn't know where the fucking Sun's going to be.

But he can see the future. We knew almost the urited fans. Then Micah was going to tear the ACL.

“I think the Celtic flock thing makes kind of make sense for the Cowboys because they do like young players.”

Like if you like Celtic flock. Isn't he like 21 years old? Yeah, he's young. He's really big, long athletic. You know, kind of a guy that they can develop.

And if you look at the last five years, it's all the trench guys. It's like either offensive linemen or defensive linemen. I think. Dude, I was I'm reading the Chuck Closterman book football. Great book.

I'm like halfway done. Nice. And there was a whole section about the Cowboys and how they draft.

And how weird they've always drafted and how they take chances.

And did you know that the Dallas Cowboys drafted Pat Riley? Really? What? Did you know that? No, I did not know that.

What do they draft? They drafted Pat Riley to play with him. NBA coach. Yes, the famous NBA coach. What?

And the president of the Miami Heat Pat Riley. Play football? No. Well, he played, he didn't play in the NFL. But he played, why does he ever?

What? Had no fucking idea. They take shots. They were like drafting track stars. They literally drafted Pat Riley.

What? Where did Pat Riley go to college? Uh, Kentucky. Kentucky. He played receiver.

He used the seventh pick of the NBA draft. And he used the Cowboys in 1967. He used the pick. I mean, it was in the 11th round. But they drafted Pat Riley.

That's fucking wild. Well, that's like the MLB draft. Have you ever seen the MLB draft is so big. There's like 20 or 30 rounds. I mean, they get to like the 18th, 19th round.

They start digging around. And so they'll just take everyone's kids. Like the GM's kids. Scouts kids. Really?

Oh, it's soup. No, it's like a courtesy. It's like a, like you don't intend to see if he had a ball of the night. You supposed to apologize. Like you kind of have to take some scouts kids if you're not a dick.

And like the 23rd round. Like the MLB draft. It's like this is what the Cowboys did with Doos Vaughn. We're Doos Vaughn's fathers work for Dallas for 30 years. So they drafted his son.

Baseball that happens all the time. Because they have so many freaking picks. Pat Riley was six, four, two, five. Yeah. That's a big receiver.

He had never played, he had not played college football.

That's crazy. He's like, yeah, you're athletic.

Do you guys know the first pick in the 1967 draft was? I don't. You're not going to get it. Bubba Smith. Oh, Bubba.

No, I Bubba Smith. The guy. Bubba Smith. Clint Jones. Steve Spurrier.

Bob Greasy. Steve Spurrier. I don't know much about Gene Upsha. Number 17. Overall picked that year.

I need some. I need some Pat Riley high school football tape. Yeah, we got to. Pat Riley 80. I mean, he's up to Pat Riley's only 80.

That is older than that. I don't know. You just see he does have a guess. He's that old.

He does have a tie with Lannister like powerful vibe to him.

You know, he does. It feels like a hair. Also, Pat Riley all time fit God back in the day. Yeah. He's suits on the sideline.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Flock him. He was crushing it. Everyone just stole that hairstyle.

Okay. Other. So this is the real crown to the crab of Diggy's Mark Draft. Oh. Diggy.

Tell Craig who you gave the Pittsburgh Steelers. Number 21. Oh, this is this is all for you. Craig, you gave him Jordan Tyson, Arizona State Wine Receiver. Craig's number one.

Why receiver. This is just, this is just, you just do this for me. It's fan serve. He's appeasing me. Yeah.

I mean, they, they desperately desperately need this. Again, can we run through? I want to run through the, the depth chart of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Why receiver.

“Oh, I think I, I mean, there's, I don't, I think I could do all of them.”

Hi, if it's, did I tell you? Shoot. I think I already told I have it's this, but the, the people under contract. There's three receivers currently under contract. Can you name them?

Did you get back to get me? Roman Wilson. Yep. Those are these in Calvin Austin on an ice flow. He's a free agent.

Right. It's either, it's either Scotty Miller or Ben's Caroni. It's probably Ben's Caroni. It's Ben's Caroni. It's Ben's Caroni.

Because he's a special team. Those are the three receivers that are on the team currently. There's also like four or five guys on the, on the practice squad. I've heard of none of these men. Max Hurlumin.

No. We have Brandon Smith. Not a real person. These could be trainers. Paul Burgess Burgess.

I want this guy I've heard of. John Reese Plumley. John Reese Plumley. Get the fuck out. You see related to the Plumley.

Oh, they 80 Perry. I kind of like him actually. Got him out there. Did he go? What, what, what school he got?

John Reese Plumley was on the c-hawks. That's the only reason I know who that person is. He went to Central Florida. Well, okay.

“John Reese Plumley is related to the Plumley twins.”

I would love it if they drafted Jordan Tyson. Who I think is great. Yeah. They need receivers desperately. I mean, that's not enough.

They need like and draft four receivers. Yeah. I really want them to sign Romeo Dunn. So I think is just a classic stealer. And I like good player.

And he's underrated.

And I've always liked him.

But I want you to see. Rogers. Rogers might be happy with that. I think job is great. But I would even overlap.

I'm probably wrong. I actually probably never would overlap. No. What? No.

One season. What season? Craig likes this. Craig improves. Love Jordan Tyson to this dealer.

Great call. Great complimentary piece. Decay Metcalf. With Kyler. Look out.

Yeah. Just throw it up for him. Yeah. Mike McCarthy, Kyler Murray and DK Metcalf. Three honestly.

Steelers. Jordan Tyson. And Kyler Murray would actually be a really good combo. Yeah. Because Kyler Murray.

Loki. Nice downfield. Georgia Hopkins. Just check it up for him. Yeah.

Yeah. Throw in Darna Washington. We got a stew going. Ooh. Forget about that.

Yeah. I love that guy. Kyler Murray and Darna Washington in the same team would be like that photo of Aaron Judge and Josel too. Way from the all star game. Like the smallest and the largest person to ever do this.

Yeah. But first things first. Resign Kenneth Gadewell. All costs. Yeah.

Look back your pride. To you the strength. It's what has strange your groups of people. It's Kenneth Gadewell. If it's Kyler Murray Kenneth Gadewell.

DK Metcalf. And DK Metcalf. This is Kyler. The body types. Steelers are just all over the map.

Uh. The other one I had just had to mention. And it's Cleveland Brown's view. The pick they got from Jacksonville getting Mackay Lemon aka Mackay the snake lemon from USC.

Most of them wanted to do the serpentine. Will you go to the serpentine with me? Yeah. He's getting into it. Yeah.

It is like a cobra. He's like very much like a snake. Yeah. Another team that desperately needs water severs. The Cleveland Browns.

I hope he doesn't go to the Browns. I don't see it. I don't see it. I felt bad doing this. Wild.

Yeah. Okay. Last one here. I'm going to make you do DK's. That the Rams you have had taken quarterback Ty Simpson.

And then they traded the pick. So I want to know now. Where if you think Ty Simpson, the quarterback from Alabama, will be a first rounder. Like do you.

For inanimate doses, I'll be your first.

Right.

“Do you think Ty Simpson's a ghost in the first round?”

Well, let's just look at this. Who do you think is going to take him? Because I think.

Right. It would have to be someone trading up and in probably.

“I think because if you're looking at the last.”

The end of the first round.

See how it's Broncos Patriots. Chiefs. None of those people need a starting quarterback. Houston Texans. I think it's it.

No, I think it's Arizona. And here's why they trade up into the first. Here's why it's I think that the only team to get Ty Simpson are going to be one of those teams that run a Shannon Hannah McVay system. So you need someone who's a friend of Kyle Shannon or Sean McVay

and what you know, they're the friends and co. So if you look through, I think that takes out certain teams like. The Steelers, like I don't think Mike McCarthy's going to get. And maybe I'm wrong. But I don't know if he makes as much sense there.

And then I could be wrong. Maybe they do want that. But I think it's a mix of who's not going to get. Kyle are married. Like who's not going to get the quarterback that they prefer.

So someone's going to go and sign. Kyle are married. Someone's maybe gets Malik Willos. Maybe someone gets Kirk Cousins. Maybe that Kirk doesn't prevent you from that.

But Arizona to me over and over. It's just no one wants to go there. You know what I mean? Like Arizona is going to get the drags. The same way Arizona got the drags that they got Mike Michael Flur,

the little brother Matt. He was kind of the last coach on the market. The offensive coordinator's Nate Hackett.

“I think the cardinals were the least desirable place to go as an assistant.”

And I think they're going to get the drags of the free agency market. Arizona's a cool place to go. But like I like to live in Arizona. But I just think as a team. People don't want to go their outside of just being an Arizona anyway.

So I don't think they're going to get anything other choosing. So I think that they're the team that might have to just make your leap from, you know, and just go get someone. Because I mean, just does make a lot of sense. Yeah.

Yeah. Because like maybe Arizona. Minnesota. But I don't know. Minnesota needs to win now.

Atlanta kind of needs to win division. Like the owner there really like every. All right. Arizona needs to rebuild Minnesota Atlanta. You go through all these other teams that have openings.

They all like the Pittsburgh Miami. They're all kind of want to be like, no, no. But the owner is old and I want to win now where I was hired to win now. Arizona's hired to rebuild. And I think there's a team that has the authority to like.

Go get someone and it won't be a black mark on your record. This guy sucks. Like Aaron Glenn in the jet. Can't go get a quarterback and then bad. Because it can fire immediately.

He needs to win now. Yep. Do you guys want to email? So do you want to just. Russell Wilson talked shit about Sean Payton and Max Cross.

Be hates the Raiders. Do you want to hit these or you want to know?

“I got to say I think that that interview that rusted.”

Was it busted with the boys? Who was he with? The boy's who's Taylor Luan and will. Will Compton. I admittedly do not watch the entire podcast, but I saw the clips.

And there's one of the better moves that Russ has made for his personal image. And it's entire career. He said that he was hoping that the giants would play Russell Wilson versus the Broncos instead of Jackson Darden. Because and obviously paid it for us for a year. And he was like, I hope you.

I hope you don't venture us for our game. I want to play versus Russ. And then Russ tweeted, classless, but not surprised. Didn't realize you're still bounty hunting 15 plus years later through the media. But then when on button with the boys and was honestly seemed way more normal than I think I've ever seen him.

And he was like, look, I don't say a whole lot. When people online shit on me, like, I don't look at that stuff. But like coaches and players. A guy who I've been on the team with, like, that's kind of where I draw the line. Yeah.

And he's like, look, he's a respected play color, but like also give me fucking break. Like fuck this guy. I also really liked. This is, this is he just threw this in a couple times. We number what he goes. Sean and I, we both have one ring.

We both have the same number. That was awesome. Which I loved. Hell yeah.

The second thing was he's like, I've beaten Sean a couple times in this league too.

And so I don't know. I just, I'm obviously team Russ, like, Peyton is just kind of a dick. But yeah, it was cool to see him kind of call that out. The bounty hunting. The bounty, the call it out the bounty hunting is kind of like,

it's pretty far for Russell Wilson, who has not really said anything in the media. His whole career. At least not on that level. So that was pretty great. Yeah, that was pretty funny. I would feel so much better about Russell Wilson.

If he hadn't just hit the goalpost on a, like, a third in 10. Inside the red zone versus cheese. And then they took it off. Oh, if that's just burned to my mind, but yeah, no, this is better. Also, we both have one ring.

I love that. That was sick. Also, the athletic had a great story today. Max Crosby is very and a bunch of people. The Raiders are apparently weirded out by how involved Alex Guerrero is.

Tom Brady's like, this guy's trainer. The T.B. 12 trainer. I was like the Obi-Wan, the Obi-Wan meme. Oh, I haven't heard that name in a long time. I was unaware that he was still doing shit.

I didn't realize he was involved with Vegas. So he involved. I don't think anyone realized how big of an impact it was.

Mike Silver had the story of the athletic that basically Tom Brady runs the thing

from Florida remotely. He does all those other stuff. He's a company. He does Fox. And he's there.

And he's not in the building Vegas every day. And apparently Alex Guerrero is there more. He says he's like the surrogate father from rest development. He just wears a little camera on his head. And like, goes around and talks.

He's like talking to coaches and talking in players.

So apparently just aggravating all players and coaches. He's like delivering news to players. Yeah. That's a lot. Also imagine being Max Crosby who whatever you think of it.

The fact that he went until the season basically plays every single snap of every game.

“Which imagine how unhinges you have to be to be at elite NFL defensive end.”

And even those guys come out of the game. Imagine how zealous you have to be like completely and utterly devoted singularly

default to be like, I literally will never come off the field.

And then this guy is trying to tell you how to, you know, treat your butt. Like it's this guy's like, hey, you should need tomatoes, Max. Max is like, I'll eat whatever I got you in flammatory. I'll eat a live fish if I want to. Okay.

Let me alone. Like golem like smeagle just like eating the fish. Like don't cook it. No. What would I get meat?

Yeah. Alex Guerrero just being a part of it. This, this is the first time I've actually been worried that the Brady ownership thing will actually be disaster. I actually never really felt that way until reading this and I across by my mind. So a whole different skill set than playing quarterback.

Imagine that. The other thing I thought that was interesting was they talked about how chip Kelly. Like wouldn't talk to any of the players. Wow, the guy left college because he had to talk to people. Didn't talk to anyone that's so weird.

He was having, he was delegating at like half time. He was like hiding at half time and having his assistant deliver like offensive updates about the gameplay. Yeah. The fuck? Just the stuff you hear in some of these NFL teams.

Like how many billions. Chip is an NFL grifter.

“He just gets it and gets paid goes back to college.”

The best insight maybe Danny Kelly's ever had on this show is that Bill Belichek fell off. Because he didn't want to talk to new people anymore. Can you imagine talking to some of these Gen Z? That is the true is thing. Chip Kelly literally just won't talk to anyone.

Like, and you think it's a joke. That's probably what you want to talk to anybody. Yeah. It's hard to make new friends. It's a lot of work.

Like, what do you guys think the age curve is of when you just basically flatten out.

How many friends you have? That's a good question. It's got to be twenty eight. Twenty eight. When do you take a new friend?

You start playing for work. It's a whatever. It's a plateau's for a while. I'd say in your 20s. And then your kids parents.

You have a couple of friends. You have a couple of friends. You have a couple of friends. You have a whole new pool of people to talk to. You have kids and friends.

It's basically like, once your kid starts going to school, then it picks back up again. Right. Yeah. I mean, I've read a song. I've got all kinds of new friends these days.

Is that right? Yeah. When they say, what do you do? Do you say, I'm a podcaster? No.

What do you say? It's a sports writer.

There's like really what he's written.

People know what it is, you know? Also if I say podcaster, they're like, do you do that like full time? I know. I'm a podcaster, but actually, though. No.

Yeah. It's a hundred percent. A hundred percent. Because the worst thing ever. The worst thing ever.

There's no way around it. Because if you say, like, I'm a successful podcaster, that's super work. Yeah.

“The only thing worst in saying I'm a fantasy football podcaster is having really no”

to know. It's, it's a real job. It's like, yeah, successful fantasy football podcaster. Like, they, they, they, like Jackie's uncle. I told you guys this once said, oh, that's what's a podcast.

It's like, oh, if you ever Spotify's like, no. I was like, well, you know, kind of like there's nothing I can do here. I was like, well, it's like, he's like, so you're on the radio. I'm like, no, no, no, it's like if you could play the radio whenever. And there was like a long run.

You ever heard of Bill Simmons? And he's like, he's like, do you, do they pay you for this? I mean, I still, I do legitimately still get like, oh, is that like your full time job? Okay. It's, it's weird because you don't want to have to lead with it.

We, we could say we're on a TV show called a talk show. Yeah, talk show. I host a sports talk show. Done. Huh.

It's what they are. We, what's the difference? We're on Netflix now. Yeah, yeah. We're basically a movie.

We're basically a movie. We're the same fucking wank. Yeah. Yeah. We're like the length of movies in the 1980s.

Yeah. Right. Right now, we've gone as long as like the entire movie had to go. How long is top gun? Oh my god.

The first top gun, what? Two hours a second. One hour and 15 minutes. There you go. What?

Okay. What give me another like classic 80s movie? Risky business. Risky business. That bet is 100 minutes.

It is one hour 39 minutes. Almost. Well, we got to get rolling. We got to get rolling. We're going to get under that.

We got four minutes. Okay. Emails. We can be quick. Right.

I have to read this one through Kyle. No. This is the bone. This is one of that. So Kyle writes the breakfast was this breakfast is fucking crazy.

Kyle. I'm a little worried. People start to lie. I'm replying to people. Don't say honor system.

Don't lie.

All right. I'm starting to need people. People of integrity. We're going to sniff it out. The point is to get a look into our listeners.

Okay. Yeah. It's the breakfast doesn't impact whether it read the email or not. Like. So Kyle writes breakfast was a white monster 40 gram protein banana shake.

And he said two garlic knots. I believe. I believe him. He thought it was garlic knots. I think that's like a universe.

He ate breakfast. And then as he was kind of closing the fridge, he was like, oh shit. I will say. I'm going to last. Kind of delicious to be honest.

It's amazing. If I started writing down what I wrote for breakfast. I, yeah. And shout out the discord. The discord is the breakfast club.

Shout out to the junior discord. It rang a fancy football. And the discord. The breakfast club's great. When you said garlic knots.

I first thought you meant garlic.

Like just a clove of garlic. I was like Jesus. Now then he becomes actually crazy healthy. Right. Like wild gut biome.

Anyway, so Kyle writes about. Fogo to chow. Okay. There's an off menu meet. You can request it.

Oh, a challenge. Come on. They have. It's the best meet they have. And they don't want on the menu menu meet.

So Kyle writes. I did medical school in Indiana. A few years ago, he said it took my wife to lunch at Fogo to chow. For a birthday in May. He says cheaper at lunch and less busy.

Kyle writes. I was reminded that it was in D500 week. And he sees the entire and ready family, which is like, you know, like, Mario and company. Yeah.

And so they carry a rack of ribs to the and ready table. Looks like they came from a dinosaur and served to Marco and Dreddy. And I asked the waiter what it's going on. He says they have by request only beef ribs, which are huge.

At Fogo to chow. So Kyle says now, every time I go to Fogo to chow, I request to beef ribs. And I order a mug. Everybody that I'm there with. Dude.

“Anytime you know about a secret menu at a restaurant, it's a good look.”

It's incredible school. Just looks cool. Order bugging is is a real thing. What do you guys think of people who order for. They're significant other or for the table.

Like with consultation or without. Yeah. Like with consent. I mean, I guess with consultation, it doesn't matter at all. Because it depends on the vibe.

Sometimes everyone's like, please, like, somewhat. Water forever. Hyphen's legit writes down what I want. I do too. I mean, look, nowadays most restaurants.

It's like the waiters always like, we do family style.

Everything is shared. So you basically have to consult your your table to figure out what you're going to order. If it's if everyone gets an individual thing, then obviously you wouldn't do that. But if I'm just like, yeah, I'll have the full aim. My wife will have the shrimp scampion.

I just didn't ask her. Yeah, that's crazy. It's crazy. I got to tell you. My wife will have a light salad.

Yes. God. Yeah. I know water. I'd say it.

Anyway, I'll get the tea bone. Big potato and a whiskey. Okay. I got another email here. This one's from Drew.

Drew. Deep. Deep bone. Drew's breakfast was homemade overnight oats. Yes, hyphids and a black cold brew and raspberry protein called firm.

What's a cold phone? He has homemade raspberry protein cold phone. No, homemade overnight oats because I told you overnight out story. How did he get the raspberry cold phone? I probably bought it at Starbucks.

I don't. I'm going to say the protein cold phone is just. What's a cold phone? DK, you wouldn't believe it if I told you. What protein cold phone is?

You wouldn't believe it if I told you.

Cold phone is basically whipped cream.

What better with with healthier branding? Yes.

“It's, they added, they're like, oh wait, what's in whipped cream?”

Derek? Like a propuccino? It's basically a, a whipped milk or cream. It's starting to seem like, but she knows that. Starbucks, they just give you a little cup of whipped cream.

Yeah. Yeah. So they're just doing that for people now. Yeah, no. Kind of like a feeling layer of it on top of the fucking drink.

But yeah. It's like people who like don't want to get a protein. People wouldn't have a protein shake in the morning. But probably want protein. And they're like, what if we told you it was in your, I can't.

I, we might have to bring in Jodi Walker to explain the protein or Nora to bring it. Because this is a relatively new thing in my wrong. Yeah. It's preposterous. If anyone thinks something wrong,

please email me at ringer fantasy football. Gmail.com and a infant cold phone with a protein cold phone. But I think this is. It's not so many nutrients. The other day we were in LA and I went and got a macho without Craig.

And I was like nervous to order it. Because I'm like, I don't know what the fuck I don't know how to order this. That's how I feel. Coffee. I just like, I'm like, you know, Brooks wouldn't get out.

You know, and Shashink, or that's really doesn't know how anything works. I'm like, I don't know how to order this drink. My friend told me to get a macho. And you can tell me how to make it. I still remember one time somebody go told me to like,

“I think it was when I was a PA for unbreakable chemistry,”

or whatever. And I, I don't drink coffee. Didn't drink coffee then like don't know. Every time I'm in a coffee shop, I panic. Unless I were a macho.

They were like, I'll get me a coffee and I literally just locked it. And I was like, can I get a coffee?

I didn't like for a whole lot of questions. I remember this woman, the breeze is saying, would you like it with room? Oh. And I was like,

I don't know. What do you recommend? What do you recommend? I don't know the fuck. What's the chef recommend?

There's like a board of martini here. What are we doing? We're kind of fucking lingo with with. I know. I actually also wrote it for you.

Yeah. Now I do. It's like room for milk. But I'm like, just say that. I do.

I do. I do. I had to say, I don't know. Do I? I was an intern.

The first ringer live show they did.

I was the intern. And I brought like all this stuff. I brought the chairs and all this stuff. And then I'd go to the coffee.

“And it was like, I think it's probably Mallory.”

Chris. Andy. Oh, I forgot the story. Concepts. This is great.

And I, they were like, I had to go get a room coffee. And I was like, right to get down. I'm like, no, no, everyone's writing it. Like, you guys are writing it down. I'm not writing it down.

So I can't write it down. Everyone write down what they want. I will bring it back. Close to Starbucks. This was my mistake was in a target.

And because you Craig, you don't. Nothing's in walking distance at a lake. And the Starbucks was walking distance. And I was like, golden. Well, no, but I'm like, I won't take any LA slander from you.

Sir. Why don't you head on over to my neck of the woods. You have it. My walk score is a 90 on Zilla. Oh, there you go.

Well.

So the, I showed up to the Starbucks and it's a target.

And it's a 16 year old kid doing it. And I'm like, oh, no, like, I need all this. I hand him the paper. And he's like, I don't know. The paper.

That's how you do it. You go to a bagel street. Hand them paper. Like, I got a big order. They handed in the paper.

And then he said, how old are you? Yeah. So what are you 80? You pat Riley's age. Um, that bit the cowboys drafted you.

“Anyway, so the kids like, so what's a, what's a, what is this word?”

He points at macha. And I'm like, you want, I don't know what a macha is. You work at Starbucks. What are you asking me? He's like, I don't know what it is.

So I'm like, what do you mean? You don't know what that is. So I'm like, clearly, it says a fucking mocha. I don't know. So I bring Andy Greenwald a mocha back.

And um, very different. So nice about it. He was so nice about it. And it was not what he wanted to drink at all. And he was going to go on stage.

And Mallory looks at me and he's like, go get him a fucking macha. I was like, oh, sorry. The green grass tea. I don't, I don't know, it's 22. If you would have gotten him, I'm not sure you'd have been like, there's no way this is right.

Yes, I would have got no, no. There's a mess. This thing is fucking green. What are you giving him a green drink of like, I'm going to get fired. I don't think this back to my work.

I just kind of say for all the assistants out there, man, I've been in a system. I've been in a system. I've been a production assistant. That job is fucking brutal. It is so hard.

You are constantly stressed like shots out every single assistant. It is the fucking hardest job in the world. Especially like, it's, that was stressful enough for me. And I was getting coffee for like the like Chris Ryan and Andy. They'll use like the nicest people in the world.

Getting coffee in the evening people is brutal. Yeah, devil wears products. Yeah. Mean people above you. Yeah.

Yeah. Without naming names, give me one like story. Can you remember the show you were working on? Yeah. Kimmy Schmidt.

I mean, there, you know, that was a mess. There are some people who are a little bit prickly. Okay. And, you know, I get it. They've had long days.

But the worst part is when you're an assistant, once you get like, get the hang of things, it kind of becomes fine and you know everyone's preferences.

“The first like three months on the job is genuinely like the worst thing in the world.”

Terror. Terror. Dude, I, the other day. Because part of my job like producing the town and like, I have to do stuff that's a little bit more administrative.

We did a live show at Chapman University with a special guest. That's coming out on Friday. Nice. I had to, I had to book the car service for this person to get from L.A. To Orange County.

I have never booked a car for somebody.

I don't know how to do that. I was a mess. I was on the phone. I didn't know what, sir. I was like, slacking people.

Liz was formerly in the system. I was asking her, like, I was on the phone. I was a mess. The woman on this, on this car service rental company was like, oh, well, like, what's the confirmation number?

I got no idea. I'm like searching through my email. I apologize. You know, it was a mess. It's, it's, I hate shit like that.

It's terrible. Yeah. That's really funny. I got it done. And now I know how to do it.

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