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Free Agency, Day 1: Malik to Miami, Ravens and Bills Go All In, Chiefs Sign Ken Walker, Alec Pierce's Payday, Pittman to Pittsburgh, and Skip Bayless on Megan Thee Stallion's Broadway Debut

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The guys break down the opening wave of NFL free agency, from the Dolphins’ quarterback reset to the Ravens going all in with a blockbuster pass-rush move, and the Raiders spending big to build around...

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My name's Danny Hype, and today I'm joined by Danny Kelly, and Greg Crawl, that can free engines to get started. Kind of, because people are doing all these deals, but also Kyler, Mary, and Gina Smith, and even two, it cannot actually be cut until Wednesday,

but we're recording this Monday, where everyone's said all these deals. So we're going to go through free agency Max Crossbees of Raven. Both your teams lost a running backs named Ken, which is weird that it happened twice.

Mike Evans is a San Francisco 49er, kind of on Wednesday. Greg, excited for free agency that's happening, and also hasn't happened yet. Yeah, this episode is typically called the Adam Shepter for agency drinking game,

but we think Sheffty's on to us. He's starting to tweet a little bit more normally. There's not as much to make fun of with Sheffty, so we usually do free agency's nuts. This week isn't sane.

I feel like this morning has been incredibly hectic, and we usually do the Wednesday, so the actual day of free agency is really like the end of it. So we call that the hangover. So I feel like today is like the pre game,

and honestly, like most pre games, everybody usually just gets too drunk before you even go out. And you end up drinking more at the pre game than you do the bar,

and I feel like that's today. Shit is flying around. There are so many deals. We have like a hundred deals to get to. Today's been crazy.

And like a pre game, you think it's gonna save you money, and then you come home and you're like, "Can we kind of waste it a lot of this alcohol?" Yeah, some teams are too drunk to even make it to the bar. We'll get to those.

Yeah, so we can go through all these. The one, I didn't think we would start here,

but I think we have to, which is just getting into it,

and also this is gonna be a little bit of a crazy episode, but follow us on Instagram, follow us on TikTok, and then yes, stick with us for the entire draft season, Danny Keller, draft expert here at the ringer. But we're gonna go through free agency.

I think we have to start with the Dolphins dumping to a inciting, the leak will us in quarterback.

So Dolphins are one, gonna take a $100 million deadcap.

So two, it could go take a hike, which is unbelievable. The contract extension is signed them to their one year and to a four year extension. They're just like, "Yeah, we're good."

And so they're gonna take one sixth of their budget this year, and then one sixth of their budget next year, so two, it can just go leave and kick rocks. And then they're signing Malik Willis for a deal that's 23 million a year,

which is $68 million total, which is about one million dollars per completion that Malik Willis has had the last three seasons. Craig, you're shaking your head. - Well, at least we thought this number

we could potentially get into the 30s. So at least cooler heads prevailed a little bit, and this number is a little bit more reasonable. This is closer to the fields deal that he signed with the jets.

It's just crazy man, so Miami is paying, how much are they paying to a this year? 60 million?

- It's gonna be $55 million on their cap.

It's not the same as the cap. - It's gonna be a $55 million debt, like just unusable cap. - So it's out of the 30s. - It's just a year to do it though.

- I mean, they're kind of in a... - Yeah, but this year they're paying Malik Willis and to like $80 million. - Yeah, that's correct. Got it. - I like this move.

Am I the only one on the pod that actually has some faith

that Malik Willis, I think it's also a good sign?

Maybe, I don't know, maybe a good omin that. The team that is basically made up of former Packers, so the GM and the head coach come from the Packers. They know Malik Willis very well. - John Eric Sullivan, Chad won the GM

and then Jeff was definitely head coached, Chad too. - I mean, the fact that these guys know him and kind of know what he's capable of and watch him in practice last couple of years, I think that bows well for what they're gonna do here.

But yeah, it's interesting 'cause we kind of gave up on the dolphins being a option for Malik Willis because they don't have any cap. I'm looking at their cap space

and I don't think this has been updated after day. They had 860 grand in cap space. So the cap is kind of fake. They can spread this thing out over the next couple of years. The cap goes up an incredible amount every year.

Business is going up. - So it's going up. - Business is a booman. - In the end. - David Ellison's gonna pay more

after the FL, it's fine, it'll always go up.

- Always money in the banana stand, you know? - Right. - This deal is much more reasonable and I will say, do I think Malik Willis is gonna be a great player in the NFL when we look back 15 years from now, no?

But like, we've talked about how weird the quarterback market

Is right now, this is like a decent bridge situation.

I think for Miami, the idea of Devon HN and Malik Willis is like, okay, there's something we might have a stew going from a running game perspective there, but like this is pure, I mean, the dolphins got rid of Mink of its Patrick.

I don't think the dolphins have any plans to take down the bills or the Patriots this year. This is like clearly a reasonable bridge deal to see what you got for a reasonable price, I guess. - Yeah, I mean, is Malik Willis gonna work

'cause it's starting quarterback in the NFL. Probably not. That's why he's available in FHDC for like the least money of any veteran starting quarterback in the NFL.

I just, I keep saying this, but is he a veteran? Is that what we're calling him? - He's a veteran. - By definition, that he's no longer

on a second contract. - Second contract, yeah.

- I mean, how many, again, how many pass attempts

- I think it's a veteran quarterback then, right?

- Oh, yeah. - I think can't he pick it up as more completions than Malik Willis does? - Oh, by him, by him, by, I don't know that. - Ten times.

- I mean, that's the thing, it is absurd. I acknowledge it's absurd. Malik Willis has had 94 pass attempts since 2022. You guys do it in 2022, like that was on this call with you in 2022, doing the same damn thing.

- Nothing changed, but what we used to do this episode drunk for the drinking game. - You know, you know who this is? - Not actually. - No, actually. - Craig, well, you guys will like this.

This is horrible for jail and water. This is a really tough look. I mean, fantasy wise, we're talking here. - What else is, where are we gonna draft him in fantasy?

- Yeah, he's talking about, he's like, - Who cares? - On the cover of the burn book. - This is great. - Exactly.

- Yeah, now we know. - I will say though, I do think the reason this is happening is that the risk of being a broken record is the, or pessimists are often right and optimists are often rich, and it's like,

"Oh, if you're gonna waste $23 million a year."

I'm like, "Okay, I just saw the Raider "is gave jail a nail or $11 million a year." I'm like, "Who gives a shit?" If you have a 50, a one in six chains that Malik Willis is a good quarterback.

And the packers would no better, 'cause again, as D.K. said, the head coach or the head coach of the dolphins was the Packers Defensive Order in the last couple of years.

I, you have to try, because what, again,

what is Miami's alternative? They were gonna roll Quinn, yours is the backup quarterback there. Now, out for week one, you just have to keep throwing darts. And again, they have two or three years to find a quarterback. Quinn, yours is option, well, A is probably the wrong one.

Just like he's the backup, Malik Willis is too. They're gonna have 10 shots at a quarterback. You got to throw 10 darts. So, again, fastest quarterback in the NFL, Malik Willis probably is a top 10

in terms of pure arms strength in the NFL. So, if you can actually play under center, play action from the pocket, most guys can't do that over that fast. It's funny, because dolphins fans are going to go from,

"Don't run, please don't run, slide, slide to run, run, go, run, move, go!" Jump! Yeah, but I do feel bad. Carlos, I honestly feel so bad for Carlos.

This is just tough. And again, it's funny because two of was unambiguously the best dolphins quarterback of since Dan Burino. And they're like taking a hundred, I don't know if Dan mean Rina got paid $100 million,

but the dolphins in his entire career. So, it's funny to, you know, tough. But are we gonna talk about two over real quick? They say he might go to Atlanta, but who knows?

The back of the Wednesday. Yeah, do the lefty thing at Atlanta. We'll see if he actually signs there. I don't think he can actually sign till least Wednesday. So, they're alleging he'll go to Atlanta.

To a, to the Falcons, right, it didn't stomp. I like the idea of them, you know,

they always say your backup should be stylistically

similar to your starter. So, like a Tyler Huntley in Baltimore. So, they can come in and kind of run the same offense. Having two lefties is objectively hilarious. That's like the only two.

The ball will spin the same way for these wide receivers. I do think that's kind of great. I do have one last thing for we move off to. Albert Brear posted this, presuming that two are placed

to the minimum contract that's here, which you probably will. The Dolphins will wind up paying nearly $150 million for two years on his 2024 contract. So, it's an extension of that they signed him to in 2024.

But they already had to under contract at the time for $23 million in 2024. So, functionally speaking, Miami paid $123 million for two a last year.

Bruh, that is functionally speaking, what happened?

That's one of the, gotta be one of the worst contracts we've ever seen. Second worst. Second worst. Okay.

I'll show you something. Nobody can beat the show. No, that will be normal. You can beat the show on Watson contract. We'll be taught.

Never. Never. Never. Never. Especially considering what they gave up for him.

Dude, that was a bad deal when he was good at football. I know. Okay. So, the other huge thing that happened over the weekend. So, the Ravens traded two for Trump picks to the Raiders

for Max Cross Bay. Friday night. Friday night. And then now we've led a denim to it because Tyler, they then used the caps base that the Raiders got from letting go of Max

Cross Bay and used it to sign Tyler Linda bomb the center from the Ravens. So, it's almost like part of the trade in a weird way, not really. But it does functionally work out that way. The Ravens give up the number 14 pick in the show draft. And the first runner in 2027.

I want, we'll get to the Raiders in a second. First of all, you're more chase. The Bengals receiver. I don't know if Kim, do we have the audio of that?

He was like live streaming playing arc Raiders.

So, just put the text to me. Ravens traded for Max Cross Bay. No fucking shit. No fucking shit. No fucking shit.

I'm fucking highly pissed right now. That's true. That's relatable. I'm highly pissed right now. I'm going to start saying that.

I'm highly pissed right now. I thought that was phenomenal.

I mean, Craig, what do you, what do you, you're Steve?

Yeah, Jamar's in the division. You're in the division Craig is his dealership in. Yeah, I was not happy about this. You're highly pissed. Max Cross Bay immediately feels like a great Raven and that he's going to work for the

Ravens and this is exactly what they need to make a big defensive stop in the second half of games, which has been a problem for them in the playoffs and in crucial moments. Max Cross Bay. Yeah, I mean, I feel like anywhere he was going to go, I would have felt like, what a great signing, what a great fit, but particularly I'm not excited to have him play a 49-year-old

character. I don't know how old he is. I mean, this is the biggest trade in the history of the Baltimore Ravens. It's not even close.

The Ravens had never traded a first-round pick for a veteran player and now the Ravens

traded two first-round picks for one player. Like, the Ravens had never done that. There's only 30 years old as a team, but they had never traded their own first-round pick for someone. So then they come out wildly.

I only unravens move. Well, it's, yes. I would say the AFC right now is in real like all-in mode where the Ravens are like, this is our fucking shot. Lamar, we'll see how long, like, let's go right now.

Even the bills with DJ Moore are like, let's go right now. The Patriots were not, you know, they're not a dominant force in the AFC. My home's just coming off at an ACL tier. And it's kind of like these teams that have gotten close to the sun, but haven't quite reached the mountaintop, like Baltimore and Buffalo, like, fuck it.

We're going to go for it. Because what they gave up, what Baltimore gave up is a lot, the 14th pick in this draft.

And then a 2027 first, that is a lot.

It's a good deal for the Raiders. But it is pushing your chips in right now. It's a big midlife crisis move.

And I totally agree, I think the Ravens are midlife crisis, the bills are midlife crisis.

Like, all they're like MVP quarterbacks, my home's, Josh Allen, the March and 30, they look at like Caleb Williams for the Bears ready to be next. Drake, maybe it is Super Bowl. And they're seeing that younger generation, they're being like, maybe I should just get a car and that will make me feel young and like go cyber truck.

Yeah, exactly. And it's like the bills get a second round of pick for DJ Moore and you're like, what are you talking about? And, but the Ravens, what I really do think is the same thing. And I know it's like a little simplistic, but I think the Ravens went and saw

Mike McDonald who was their defensive coordinator going when it's Super Bowl defense, the same year that the Ravens had like the few assacks, the Ravens have had in 15 years. I mean, you just go, I think Craig nailed it too. It's the amount of blown leads the Ravens have had. And the more a Jackson gets all the shit for the Ravens blown leads.

But I think that's kind of crazy. Like if you look at it, I mean, Baltimore had 10 sacks last year from their edge rushers. I, Dan Orlovsk had this and he's been sporting that Baltimore's dead last in the entire NFL on just sacks from edge rushers. And it was the first year since 1996, which was Baltimore's first season, that no Baltimore

Raven edge rusher had five sacks in 30 years. And you just go down the line. It's like the Ravens had 30 sacks that was again, Baltimore's worst marketing 15 years.

That's why the Ravens keep blowing the leads.

And again, ESPN had this that the past five years, Baltimore's blown more leads than any team in the NFL. This is all connected to me. It's like you watch your defensive coordinator go and win the Super Bowl when you miss the playoffs.

My home's terrace is ACL, you can't even make the playoffs. You have no pass rush and you're going through all this. And then also, John Harbour gets fired as the head coach of the Ravens. The GM Eric de Costa, it's easy to say, draft and develop, draft and develop. This is obviously Baltimore saying that drafting and developing has been working, especially

because they've been keeping out at pass rushers for 10 years. They just keep grabbing these great players at the end of their career, just in Houston on his last legs. Do you know how you've been clouting his last legs? You just go down the line, they're like, we'll get cheap guys, David O'Jobble for Michigan.

We'll like, tear his Achilles at the combine or whatever, and then they'll take him in the second round and they keep trying to like, well, they traded away, Odafeo way last year. Yeah, after five games and then he had seven and a half sacks with the chargers. They're like, yeah, damn it, and we keep fucking up.

And that's the fear. And so I think the pressure was that they needed Jesse Mentor to be the next Mike McDomb, where they're like, we had all these guys in house that are clearly the next wave. It's like the Washington committer staff that had Kyle Shannon and Sean McVay and all these guys and staff.

Baltimore was kind of like that for defense. They had all these defensive guys and staff, and there's this fear they let him go. And that would suggest you mention needs to be the next Mike McDomb, but you do this Max Crosby trade. It's like, well, Jesse Mentor better be the next Mike McDomb, because Holy crap, two

first rounders for your Baltimore, like they've never done this.

And so I think this is just what we said last year about the students getting DK McCalf. Like, this is a Corvette. It is interesting. You see, I mean, I guess this just is happening a lot around the league, but there's been a spate of new coaches coming in and just making big moves.

What I mean?

Across the league, I was thinking of the Jags last year, how they had new GM come in and immediately just make one of the biggest trades in the draft. It is kind of wild. Because usually, I think the old way was like nothing too splashy at first.

You have to like get everything established, set your cool stuff in your right to do that.

And then now you're just having these coaches coming in, obviously look, the GM is not new. So that he probably, the coach probably didn't have a huge amount to do with this anyway. But yeah, this just felt, to me, my first reaction was like, wow, the Ravens did this. That is, that is different.

There's never done it. Maybe they need something, you know, this is like, they need to spice it up. They're looking at their ex, go win a Super Bowl, and I do bugs them. And I do think it's worth saying Max Crosby, I think when he's healthy, I don't think anyone has, he's like your favorite football players, favorite football player, like there's no

questions that Max Crosby is a guy. Well, yeah, that's what I was going to add to this, too, is like a lot of the risk and fear in making a trade like this. In most cases is, you get a guy who comes in, he doesn't really fit the locker room. You don't know him that well, he's, and maybe when he gets a new contract or whatever,

change his team, he doesn't try his hard. There's like effort or personality issues. It doesn't seem like Max Crosby's that guy, I mean, he got furious at the Raiders, even though there are like two wins or three wins or whatever for having him not play the final game, that like sourd the relationship.

Max Crosby's furious that they don't tackle in the probability war, right? He's just a maniac in the in the best way, so I don't see him being an issue from that

point of view, I think that's what you get in trouble for like hitting the quarterback

and practice, he's, he's, he's, as a, a focused and maniacal. And they're like, well, if you don't want me to hit the quarterback, block me. Yeah. I mean, again, like the amount of intensity you have to have to just not come off the football field for years at a time.

Like Max Crosby just no one plays 99% of steps and he did for a long time. And just the effort across me is more tackles for loss in the final five minutes

against the game to the name of Nelson the past seven years, which that was an amazing

status, so he has to be on his twice. Crosby has twice as many sacks than anyone on the Ravens since 2019, which is, and then get the Ravens at the second few sacks and basically the history of the team last year. And I think if you just forget age and forget health for a second, you have to win one game. I think the guys you would take ahead of Max Crosby or Miles Garrett, healthy, Mike of Parsons.

TJ, what up there, still Craig? I'm right now. Wow. Not in a conversation. I would say, I would say he's in that tier.

I just threw that out for respect, you know, I would say I think in that tier. I think he's, he's fine in that tier. I love Max Crosby.

I think the question is Max Crosby hasn't really played a super important game in a long

time. He's only different.

A lot of things in crucial moments, Max Crosby's down 20, every game.

It's funny. Max Crosby has won a playoff game and TJ Watts literally never won a playoff game. It's just a weird stat. I know, but you know what I mean? I know.

But anyway, the point is I think everyone agrees that Max Crosby and the Ravens is great. It's just more one. How does a guy who never takes any snaps off age? It's just going to be interesting. But overall, it's like the Ravens better win.

We always say, oh, it's a super ball all in move. Realistically, I would describe it as for a first year head coach, Jesse Minner. If the Ravens don't make the AFC championship game, I think it's a game. It's a catastrophe. Like, I think that's a realistic there.

I'm not saying that's successful if they lose an AFC championship game. But the Ravens make it the divisional round is not good enough. You just gave up your first two rounders like obviously the Ravens need to make a Superball. Like that goes without saying. But it's a disaster if the Ravens can't even make the semi-finals.

I mean, even if they didn't trade for Max Crosby and they didn't make the AFC championship by would argue the season is a disaster. Wouldn't you? I mean, the goal is they have to make a Superball one time. Yeah, that'd be good.

They'd be helpful. But I do think this is setting aside the price tag. I think this is the best move so far of this year. And the flip side of those, we're looking at the Raiders because the Raiders have just really made a long way to a rebuild in about like three days here.

Because they, I mean, full on obviously Fernando Mendoza era. They're going to take Fernando Mendoza with the first pick. And now they flip Max Crosby.

It always sucks when you lose your best player because like everyone else is like, wow,

two first and everyone else is like, there's no chance that those two players will be as good as my favorite player. Like when your team trades your favorite player, you're like, there's no way that picks that up. But the Raiders then turn around. They signed Tyler Lindervom at Center. So three years, $80 million, $60 million guaranteed.

So I mean, forget center as a position. Not even the highest paid interior offensive linemen. I think Tyler Lindervom would now be one of the highest paid left tackles in the NFL. He's like, I think I saw six or seven on average per year. The next closest center in average per year.

So yeah, he's averaging 27 million is create Humphrey at 18. I mean, it's even by free agency standards. It's an overpay and all free agency is overpaying players. What did you think of this decade? I mean, I thought first of all, 28 million for a center per year.

You work on as a team with the reputation of the current reputation of the Raiders. This is necessary.

You have to go out and just pay out the ass.

If you're going to get a player like Lindervom to come from a very good stable organization,

like the Ravens to basically leave that security, leave that future, leave that quarterback

and come play for the frickin' Raiders. No offense Austin, sorry. But come play for the frickin' Raiders who are rebuilding and starting with a rookie quarterback. Don't know how that's going to turn out.

You have to just absolutely overpay big time.

This is what happens when you're rebuilding a team. You have to overpay for free agency. You have to sort of get excitement around the franchise. You have to see that it's a destination. I think this is what they're doing.

So is it worth it? I think yes. Because even if he isn't the best law offensive lineman in our center in the league, he's in that top tier and they're just overpaying for him to check a few different boxes. Number one, obviously, you get a center to come in and help out your rookie quarterback,

which is massive. I think he's a perfect scheme fit for the Kubiak offense, which is really dependent on running the football play action. Deep shots all that stuff. It's great for your last year's first round investment in Ashton,

Gentie, it's great for him. It's great for a lot of things.

And it also, I think, makes Las Vegas look more like a destination.

More people are excited about it, I think. And seeing that there are teams that's going to pay. So I think there's multiple things that play here. But obviously, on paper, this looks like a massive overpay, which I like that you're like, it makes Las Vegas a destination like it's the travel board.

Like, yeah, the overpayed by 50 percent of the second highest paid guy.

I think that also what it does is it, it's about making Fernando Mendoza good. Right. And I think you need something to respond. Yeah, be exposed to a lot of interior pressure. And I think that works with Tyler Lindervom just being a good center.

And I don't think he's honestly even the best center in the NFL. But I think he's the best one available and sometimes it's all things. But you have at least Colton Miller at left tackle. And then I think you Jackson Powers Johnson, who is supposed to be a center that I think is probably just going to play like right guard down.

But then Tyler Lindervom at center. But it's not just that, it's setting protections in everything at the NFL level, which so not only see literally protecting, but that earlier in your career, like you want quarterbacks to in theory be able to do all the audibles of the line. But it's really hard right now if you're going to go play the charges of the Ravens to figure out

or the Seahawks, all these teams were going to figure out the blitzers. So sometimes you need the centers to be able to do that.

I think that's one of the reasons since Jason Kelsey retired.

It's been harder for the Eagles to have, you know, Jalen Hertz wasn't setting all the protections as stuff. And now he is. And that's something that's changed. That's just something off Fernando Mendoza's shoulders, which is also kind of what the money is for. So it's like, it's very easy to point. You're like, too much money for that guy.

It's not about that. It's about can the offense function of that Fernando Mendoza having to do everything pre-stap or can he just kind of go and play football? Which I do think that's a lot of what the money is for. But they didn't just do that though. They also went, they resound Eric Stokes, who's a former first round quarterback for the Packers to like a giant contract.

They traded a six round pick. I think for Terran Johnson, who's a very respected nickel corner back for the bills. And then we were excited about that stuff, then they gave a good Jalen nailer,

like 10 million a year. But the Ravens went out and spent like, what is it's like 120 million

dollars a year on all these players? So they won the D.K. Have they won the offseason for two years? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll raiders win the offseason. No, I don't think we're going to call them the winners of the offseason. But I think these are smart moves and moves that are necessary. I mean, if you look at next year, so not 2026 with 2027, the raiders have like 210 million in cap space. They have to start

spending some of this money. The Jalen nailer thing I thought was interesting, it's like man, the back, like a number three receiver is the most highly played, most overpaid, I should say, person in football, right? Like last year, it was like two to outwell for 10 mill Jalen nailer. I don't say in Jalen nailer is a bad player, but like it get double digit millions for a Jalen nailer, it just seems crazy to me. Then you get like the running backs are just, you know, fighting

for scraps to try and get even something near that. And now, so the raiders have the first pick in the drafts and now they also have the 14th pick in the draft. D.K. Do you see this as them just getting another offensive lineman and fully buying into building an offensive line from Endosa? I kind of think that's the right move to do right now. I mean, there'll be a lot of different options there at 14. I know a lot of people are connecting them with the Penn State

Guard Vega, Yuanay. Who's got a Vega in the name? Austin pointed out that all the Vegas group chats are calling in Vegas, Yuanay. So I think he would make a ton of sense. He's like really another guy who I think just would stabilize their offensive line. I'm sure Kubeyak coming out of Seattle is like local crazy. They will did for them last year and their offense. Just the guy that he's going to go in there. He, I think he gave up zero sacks. Yuanay did over the last two seasons

for Penn State. He's just really solid, high floor day one starter and generally speaking guards are not considered that high in terms of priority, but I think this is huge. This was neither was Tyler Lindervom. Either way in the crazy table. I mean, and Gray's able helps a lot with the seahawks. Well, yeah. In fact, her in that not only would continuing to bet on the offensive line

Drafting an offensive line and helping Endosa, but also help Fucking Ashton G...

couldn't get the ball to the line of skimits before getting hit. I mean, Kubeyak in and seeing what Ken Walker just did. I mean, you're also investing in Ashton Gentie as much as you are, Mendoza. Let's do the fan fiction right now. Let's just say the raiders take, just call them Vegas. You want it at guard. And so they have a first jump pick at left guard and right guard. A first jump pick from a while ago at left tackle and then Tyler Lindervom, a first the high

spade interior linemen at center with Ashton Gentie at running back Brock Bowers and Michael Mayor at tight end, and then just a very, very strange collection of receivers. And Fernando Mendoza, quarterback, I'm like, that actually is the kind of core that can compete with the chiefs and the chargers and the Broncos. And like that actually was pretty incredible. I can kind of see this working a

little bit. I see what happens all the time is we always declare a team back and then it's a disaster

and then we're out. But you have to be smarter than that. The raiders are now officially back.

Now the raiders are back. Yeah. I want to think about this whole time. I know that I'm kind of a Pete Carol Apologist, but I feel bad for Carol because he kind of like helps set them by being so terrible. He helps set them on this path. You know what I mean? Like first overall fake, you get the quarterback in theory. He's going to be a franchise quarterback. And now they're making all these moves that I kind of like I'm like pork, pork Carol. He just was sort of the

sacrificial lamb for one year. And pork Carol, what's he getting $12 million a year to retire for the rest of that raiders contract? Look, his reputation is not doing so great right now. You didn't care about the money, you know. Come on. I was going to make some joke about the bay, but the raiders haven't been the 49ers for a long time, but the 49ers signed my Kevin's on a three year contract. That damn I kind of didn't think my Kevin's a leave.

Dick is joke that the best players always go to the end of the sea west is really true.

Well, the fact that Max Crosby didn't go to the end of the sea west was a big win for us, um, but it's all that like, you know, the rams did all these crazy moves they went in and traded for Tremic Duffy. I wouldn't call him like a great player, but he's definitely a good player. Well, I hope he tried to make Duffy's career players getting $31 million a year from the rams. So, I mean, multi-ty of all pro, so he's definitely a good player, but then that tweet was more

in line with like, you know, the my Kevin's of the world, like guys that have been doing it for a really long time. And I like I saw that and I was like, damn it, almost a 49ers or the rams.

But this is your worst thing was the Super Bowl, right?

We've we've been over this, Typhots. You're the hatred for your rivals is stronger than the love for your own team. Um, anyway, the this move is interesting. First of all, guy who's kind of got an reputation for being a little bit hobbled throughout the year going and playing next to that substation, interesting. Um, you say Mike Evans won't get healthier playing in the 49ers substation. I mean, does he have a reputation for being hobbled? Is he like 12 straight years

of the thousand yards? Yeah, but he's always kind of like lipping around hamstring injury every year.

You know, it's true. Um, I do get the jersey consistency. He, you, you, you can see him in a 49ers uniform, which is important, which just feels like it's going to work. I do love this for the 49ers. So I think I think Evan still has it. Um, I mean, it's essentially just upgrading the Joanne Jennings 100% yeah, who's a free agent is probably believe. So they got Ricky Pearcell, who I think in theory can still be a very good number two for them going forward. You know, if he can get healthy and

stay healthy. Um, so it would be him and Mike Evans, and obviously Kittle, if he comes back, well, Kittle's got a Achilles care at 31. And then there's going to be a weird spot. And I need to think our old now, man. I mean, Kaffrey, too. Yeah. Kaffrey, Mike Evans, George Kittle, coming off in Achilles, that you got the Trent William situation right now. Like this team is, I don't know if I would call them all in, but they're just old. Yeah. They're very, I mean,

certainly look at it. We'll see what happens. Dude, I don't think they're going to get rid of Trent Williams. They're threatening to, but in reality, he just wants more money, and they're like your 37 years old, turning 38. But yeah, Kittles, he's like, I'm going to play Kittle in 45. And then Brandon, are you cool? Again, they agreed to give like $30 million a year. And Brandon are you, because I'm, I don't know if Brandon are you, because he's going to play football again.

I don't know what's going on with his knee. So like, I don't, he's certainly done with San Francisco. I don't know if he's going to play for anybody going for it. Doesn't feel like he's even going to be in the NFL anymore. I don't think he, I think, Brandon, I don't know. Everything with his rehab was very strange for the, for his knee. So I think, but that's kind of what this reflects to me is that yeah, the Niners are going to move on. So Mike Evans, and Ricky, like,

Mike Evans is also, I think, when that works for Shanahan, where Mike Evans will also

kick the shit out of some people blocking down field, which I think is important for Kyle Shanahan.

Also, Mike Evans, like, also just kind of a cycle who wants the win Super Bowl. So yeah, I think that's pretty fun for the San Francisco. The, I'm excited to talk to you guys about this, because I don't know to make of it. So Alec Pierce was like the, the Belle of the ball for free agency and everyone's on about Alec Pierce's receiver. Every team Photoshopped his, he handed their team's jersey and everything. He was going to play for every team in the NFL. And then Alec, the cults,

blue ball, everybody, and bring Alec Pierce back immediately at 12 p.m on the dot and resign him for a Kajillion dollars. I mean, they say four years, 160 million dollars, one, one, six million. All these numbers are fake by the way, but 29 million dollars a year. Like, it is, like, seems

Three years for, like, 90 million dollars for Alec Pierce, 30 million a year.

make him around money. Like, yeah, like, the eight, nine, ten highest pay waters. Yes, I mean,

NFL. And for agency has wild for you guys, what do you guys think of this? I feel like they're getting

gas lit about how great Alec Pierce is. I don't want to be Alec Pierce hated, because I do think he's a good role player in a specific deep shot role. He's he's going to create big plays. He's averaged 22 yards per catch the last two seasons, which is absolutely insane. But when I see that number, I'm like, that is very connected to the quarterback. You know what I mean? Like, this is not a guy who can thrive in any situation with any quarterback. He has to have a guy who's willing to chuck it up to

him, a scheme. That's like going to scheme him up for these deep shots off a play action, the, the marriage that that comes with with the run games. I do think it makes sense for him to stay in Indian apolis. And which quarterback do you think will be throwing to a McDonald Jones is still recovery from his Achilles player. That's a good question. But this to me is wild. I can't, this feels like a massive overpay in my opinion. So I don't know, it's like his career high for catches is 47. His career high

for touchdowns is 7. I just, it's kind of wild to me that he is up there with some of the elite

receivers in the NFL now and pay. I mean, I think it's a good player, but I'm not trying to be a

hater, but this is wild, right? He's got a great PR team or something because the stock was so high on him and every, I mean, Bill wanted the Patriots to sign him. Everybody wanted Alec Pierce. And I, I guess it's a beggars can't be choosers situation because for agency is what it is. And like we said, giving Creed Humphrey that much money. It's like, I mean, Tyler Linderbaum that much money. It's like, if they're available, you got to pay him. You got to bring somebody in and, and, you know,

make a commitment to your team. But I'm like, he's the eighth highest paid water. Even the NFL Alec Pierce, dude, he's averaged in his career crack. 2.5 catches a game. It's so yeah, that's got 2.5 catches a game. And now he's getting last year. It was 3.1 catches a game. That was his best. I, the throughout here here's paying this guy for three catches a game. I would have, honestly, him going to the paths would have made sense to me because I'm like, at least

Drake may is like the best deep ball throw in the NFL. Right. And you want to overpay a little bit for a guy that you think you can extract the most value out of because he specifically fits in your system. I guess you can say he was great for the cult of Daniel Jones last year. But yeah, I mean, Daniel Jones is coming off a broken leg in a torn Achilles. I don't know. The cult seemed like they are, like, when when you look at the Ravens having this midlife crisis going all in because they

need to get a Super Bowl. You're like, all right, again, it makes sense. And then you see the bills, Josh Allen going all in, like, where do anything for Super Bowl, just desperation, but you're like, all right, that makes sense. And then the cults are doing it. And you're kind of like, what are you doing here? I've, you know, it's kind of sad to see a team chasing one TED game stretch from last season, so hard. Like the cult started eight and two once and they're like, we can't break the band up.

We need everyone coming back. And so you're bringing out the combination of Daniel Jones coming

back at what is the number 36 million dollars a year. Again, off a torn Achilles, where I get

you have to bring them back. But I'm like, he's a mobile quarterback with an Achilles recovery.

Alec pierced thirty million dollars. They traded Michael Pippman to the Steelers, but I'm like, uh, my sauce garden gets traded for two first from pick. So the cults gave up the two first. And frankly, I just feel like this is Chris Ballard, the GM needs to save his job. And has been here for eight or nine years. It needs to justify that last year's run can be sustained. And they need to go in and they need to justify all these moves they made. And I don't know. I think this is

very much like the tailwagon that dog, none of this makes sense to me. Like, I don't think anyone thinks in a weird way, Alec pierce going somewhere else at Greek rank would make more sense. Alec pierce returning, it's almost like, it's an egg. It's weird. He's about to have the most expensive 800 yards season of all time next year. Yeah. Just to train the the fantasy, uh, the frequency pregame metaphor analogy, whatever. This is like when I would go, when I was in high school

and I would go visit my brother in college. And I would show up to the pregame and think I can hang with everybody and take like three shots really quickly. And everyone's like, Craig, easy buddy. Like, it's, it's all right. You don't have to do that. Like, that's the cold. It's been

like, we're in it. It's, it's Baltimore. It's Buffalo. It's us. We're giving receivers 30 million

dollars a year. Like, let's rip Svenka shots. Again, I know I can, it's easy to be a white blanket here, but I agree, Craig, because it's like you're doing the shot. She's like, this is easy. I can hang. And the three hours later, like you actually, your brother has to come take you home. You throw it up. Like, last year, the Patriots tried to start Chris Godwin and they went back to Tampa. So they gave stuff on things, the, the, the big contract. Everyone's like,

oh, look at that. And then guess what? They're very quickly switched to, um, we'll actually just cut stuff on things to save money. Or the dolphins are like, two years. Like, we'll actually take the biggest capet ever to make this guy go away. I know offense, but to Alec Pierce, but in two years, do you think it's more likely that we're like, incredible deal. Thank God, Indianapolis kept Alec Pierce, or it's like, we're going to be hearing Adam Shifter, uh, by moving some

money around. They have released Alec Pierce freeing up $18 million. You know what I mean? I,

I don't know.

this year? I, I guess he has to. And what does he have to do? Just to fight $30 million a year.

Who's going to lose the quarterback? I guess he's staying on chance. This is weird.

What? This just feels like they're managing up in Indianapolis. I, I think this is strange.

Again, why I receive a contract, man. David Jones, I crazy. But to Craig's point, I don't know who the quarterback is because, I mean, we just so Jason Tatum come back from the Achilles, like, I guess, Daniel Jones can't say, but he tore it into December. Like, it's not the same as Kirk Cousins coming. Aaron Rogers tours Achilles, they're older, week one. Like, Kirk Cousins had tore it week five and came back. David Jones just tore it like, well, we 11, like, we 12,

like, that's different recovery. So yeah, I, I don't know. They also did this move in conjunction with another move. Yes, they traded Michael Pippman to Pittsburgh. Craig, how do you feel? It's a good deal. I love this. I love this for the Steelers. It's a good deal. The Steelers are funny because like, we're joking about teams being all in. The Steelers are like the most milk toast

all in team. We're like, on paper, there's a good deal. Like, three years 59 million. He's making

happy. How is that on paper a good deal? We just thought, that's the 20 million year out of Pierce getting 20, Michael Pippman's, I don't know. It's the same. He's making like top 25-ish wide receiver money. Alec Pierce is making top 7-ish. Why wouldn't he just go and sign Malik Willis at that point? I'd rather have him say money. I'd rather have Aaron Rogers and and Michael Pippman than Malik Willis and no Michael Pippman. It's so bothers me that Aaron Rogers can't be

bothered to give the Steelers an answer about whether he's returning. It's actually insane. You don't, you don't think it's a good deal that Michael, we're paying Michael Pippman the same amount as Tennessee is paying Juan Dale Robinson. Again, that also is like, I was gonna ask you as what you think. They are making a lot of them out. They are both thinking about like 19-20 million bucks a year, Juan Dale Robinson and Michael Pippman. Look, yeah, I'm like, Michael Pippman

is a really solid, probably over qualified Ryder C for two. Last year he was fucking great on the cults before Jane O'Jones who got hurt. He was the Yder C for 10 in fantasy before

Jane O'Jones got hurt and he's never had a good quarterback and I think he's a good player and he

feels like a stealer and all that. Do I think this moves the needle tremendously? Like, no, but there's nothing the Steelers can do that will move the needle tremendously because their quarterback situation is fucked and they are where they are. Do I think they need it a wide receiver and do I think financially from a talent perspective? This is like a solid move I do. I think this

is good. I think they need it a guy like this. Do I think they're gonna go to the fantasy championship?

No, no. I do think the Steelers have an identity now, which is that they're just huge. They're fucked. They're just absolutely huge. DK Metcephis huge, Michael Pittman, what is he, six, four, two, 25, like he's huge. Darno Washington is like literally the biggest position player in the history of the sport. Yeah. And they got rid of a little Kenny Gamewell. So sorry about that, Craig. That was your only comment. David's dating. My God. Not even for that much money. What did you get like two years,

14 million? I don't know. I'm so weird because if you just told me Pittman's there, I'm like, that works with Aaron Rogers and what he wants to do. And so I was like, oh, I bet Rogers has sneakily told them like, I'm gonna come back. I am really weirded. I don't know why Rogers so sensitive about what happened with OTAs and going to the pyramids instead of OTAs, the jets like two years ago. But he clearly timed his announcement last year around not being at OTAs. And I

kind of think he might do it again this year. I don't know why that mattered him so much. But the

Kenneth Gainwell leaving's the only thing that makes me wonder if Aaron Rogers is not returning,

because I feel like if Rogers is coming back, they totally would have kept Kenny Gainwell. Pittman's favorite player. I'm devastated. But I think we're going to find out Rogers is back this week. I don't know why he can't be bothered to tell people by the time they have to spend $100 million. You think that he would tell. But Kenneth Gainwell didn't it? Was he your leading receiver last year? Kenneth Gainwell. He came back at that time. He said, well, 73 catches. He had the most

catches on the team for Kenneth Gainwell last year. Yeah, he's an incredibly versatile dependable player. I love them. He came through every time he needed him. I'm devastated that he's gone. He's going to be great for Tampa Bay and Bucky or Bucky Irving fans should be worried. Because Kenneth Gainwell is about to eat his lunch. He's great. I'll talk about it. Talk about being gaslit. No, again, again, it was great. DK, how do you feel about Pittman?

I think it's perfect. I love this for the Steelers. I think he's perfect compliment to DK McAfee. Yeah, we were making fun of the Steelers' Deptart at receiver last week and having adding a guy who they I believe is still got some good years ahead of him. He's a 27th receiver. You know, he's that short and intermediate area where DK McAfee doesn't necessarily shine. He can run after the catch. He's really tough after the catch. I like it. I think it makes a lot of sense and he was obviously

on the outs in indeed they didn't want to keep paying him what they're paying him. So it makes a ton of sense. And now they have two experienced receivers. They can start to build up the Deptart a little bit more with some younger guys. But going into the year with DK McAfee, no one else was not going to work. I think this is reasonable. Does it mean you don't tremendously

Know what I like it?

I don't think he's an elite player or anything. He was the widest ever ten last year before Daniel Jones got hurt. He was playing great. Hi, if it's got him in the ringer fantasy League and like the 15th round and he was fucking awesome. So yeah, I think it's great. I like it. And I'm sorry that you lost Gainwell. But there's no headlines to that that will you can't make a headline with

this deal because it's not a disaster and I don't think it's incredible. But it's solid. I just...

It is funny that Michael Pittman who the cult's just learned, we're pretty happy to push out the door and you're going to get for what is age 29 and age 30 whatever. He's 28. He's 28.

I like you have to do that. Don't do anything. He is 29 and October. So I think that qualifies

his him being 28. He is 28 and a half right now. What number are they going to put on his profile reference page? It's what I want to know. I wanted Romeo Dobbs. I think this is like in that range or probably you know they're paying a little more money than they would have gotten for Dobbs or something like that. But this is exactly who they needed. A guy who can fucking catch passes on a third and six. I hate to tell you that. They're going to put 29 next to his age there.

What? This next year, sorry Craig. What was the second round pick you traded for DK McAfee

and then you gave him $35 million a year if he can't catch a pass. Well for every DK McAfee

you need your Tyler Lockett. And the pairing somebody with DK McAfee works. Well, I mean, two Tyler Lockets had a trench coats as Thomas Michael Pittman. I know you're saying. It's just funny because I think the opposite of what the bears did with the D.J. more trade where the bears are going to pay. I mean, what a Luther burden. Rome and Dune say it costs a lovely combined going to make. Well, in salary. It's like is that even $20 million total?

I mean, it's fantastic. The bears are in a lovely situation, but they can do something that Steelers can't, which is draft a good wide receiver. They spent two top 10 picks on those guys. Yeah, and they've hit on their 50s. But yeah, they've hit on them. Three straight guys. I think Rome's good. I think Luther birth is good. I'm pretty sure Colston loved one's good. They just went

three for three. That's what fucking happens. We talked about this all the time. If you draft

guys who are good, it's cheap. Yeah, you should you should take guys who are good. That is a good point.

That does always work. Since I mentioned the trade though, I know what happened a few years ago,

but we didn't actually hit the bears. The D.J. more trade so the bears got buffled a second round or which is number 60 overall and the bills get D.J. more and a fifth round pick, which is basically the bills moved their second round or back a hundred spots in the draft and an exchange got D.J. more and these, these data free agencies to me so far, which is when the bills made this trade. So they got D.J. more, but before free agency had just begun. So not counting these out pure

trades, deals and stuff. The bills had actually had the second most expensive wide receiver group in the NFL. Wow. Only behind Cincinnati. So the bangles were spending the most money at receiver entering this season with Jamar Chase and T against and then the bills were actually

in second place. How is that possible? Is that money they owed stuff on digs?

It's, well, they paid Josh Palmer for free agency. They had D.J. more is getting 20 million. Yeah, and so believe it or not, which for a team that actually needs receivers so desperately, I think it's hilarious. But I don't know, D.J., what did you make of this D.J. more trade for the bills? I thought this was also like super desperate from Buffalo. Yeah, I think number one, it felt like a great trade for the bears who get a second round pick, which is massive.

They have a lot of work to do with their offensive line. Unfortunately, because Dalman retired Trapilo, Trapilo has a torn, Petella. No, I can't remember. Just towards me. The whole thing. And so yeah, they're going to have to, they're going to have to super painful. They're going to have to do some work, but I think this is a great move for the Barracy. I mean, D.J. more was checked out for the vast majority of the last two years. It feels like

it's felt like he clearly hated killing Williams. The connection between the two of them was very poor. And it just feels like, you know, the arrow is pointing up for Litterburden. The arrow is pointing up for loveland. And I think they can get a lot more out of Roman Dunes if he's healthy. So just made a lot of sense for them to move on from D.J. more at that point. I think it makes sense for the bills too, because he does, D.J. more does give them something that they didn't really have,

which is a guy who can play at all three positions at the receiver position. He can get deep. I think coverage, which nobody above will look good last year. Exactly. And he has a history with Joe Brady. So I think there's that element too, which makes it a little less risky for them. So yeah, I like that for both teams. I think the Barracy probably come out as the quencho winner, because they get that pick, but it's good for the bills who need to kind of invest in that position.

You know, this is a brand and being kind of, you know, swallowing as you go a little bit and just going to this. That's not the expression. That sounds weird. Swallowing as you go. Right. That's not the

Expression.

I don't know. Let's go. Swallowing is ego. Swallowing. I heard you guys, I heard you guys on Bill's pod

kind of shedding on this deal for Buffalo. And to be honest, I disagree. I think this is classic

offseason armchair GM bullshit where everyone's like a second rounder for DJ Moore ridiculous. And it's like, you know what it's going to be? Both of you. And everybody's ridiculous. You know, when it's going to feel like a good trade in January, when it's like 3rd and 11,

DJ Moore makes a huge catch. Like he did multiple times for the Bears this year. Like that incredible

Caleb Williams touched down an overtime to beat the Packers in December. That was to DJ Moore for like 45. Yeah. And the Bears season also ended when DJ Moore didn't finish a route that Caleb was scrambling on. My point is the fucking overtime of the playoffs. So like when Josh on scrambling at overtime of the playoffs is going to finish this fucking route or not. My point is this. There are certain wide receivers who like to be the number one. And that's DJ Moore. And if they're the

number two, they can't deal with it. And DJ Moore getting relegated by these younger guys coming up also after a disastrous first year with Caleb Williams. I don't say I'm nothing. I understand that I agree with DJ Moore just like literally bailing mid-rout. That's insane. But I can see him as like a guy I know is talented. He's 28 years old. He's going to be V number one on Buffalo. They need a guy like this. They do. There is no doubt that they need a guy like this. This you gave up the 60th pick

in the fucking draft. You're trying to win next year in the playoffs and DJ Moore is good. Who also you're going to get? You're going to send a first for AJ Brown and you're going, doesn't fucking play. You know what? You know what? You know what? I'm a cool. Imagine if the bills could have got like imagine like Mike Evans was available to I don't know to be honest. I would have been so I can imagine Buffalo of Mike Evans. If only there was a way for a team to acquire Mike Evans.

I don't know. I guess 33 year old Mike Evans who we just said is her all the time versus 28 year old DJ Moore. To me, I don't see any difference there. No, if DJ Moore's good. My opinion on this is

what version of DJ Moore are we talking about here? That's what I want to know because I think I

agree with Craig if we get a good version of DJ Moore. Yeah. DJ Moore has a renaissance. DJ Moore's

never had a good quarterback. Other than Caleb Williams he love and Ben Johnson who's favorite.

Well, you're one. Caleb up on him. You're one with Caleb Williams. He was like the worst quarterback clearly hates Caleb Williams. And by the time the second year came around, he was like a in a rotation with like four other guys. So you what, but here's like you, is there any coaching in the NFL you like more than Ben Johnson because Ben Johnson just like looked at DJ Moore. I was like no thank you not for me, not like I can't win with this guy. Well, look for what they're

paying him and and for all these draft picks that they've hit on. Yeah. That makes it look like I get I get what you're saying. Also part of it's the salaries too. It's like DJ Moore's making a ton of money and that's also part of it is that DJ Moore, it's not just that they're giving up the sixth pick for DJ Moore because again, I know you mean it's like the bills where we're getting to 60th pick. Maybe like a late second round over DJ Moore. He's going to be he's going to have six

catches for 120 yards in the NF and the ASC JB team games. Some everyone's going to love it. But if you like comparable trades for older receivers like this felt like an overpay. I know it'll be correct to your point. The irony is 28 years old. Is that older? How many 24 year old's wide receiver get traded? Like what do we, this is what happens? But also the irony is you're like, well, it's the 60th pick you got to go with now. It's like the pit players who've

been taken around that range. I mean, DKMF was the 64th pick. You know what I mean, AJ Brown was the 52nd pick or something. There are good receivers in that range. I get your point though. It's also just, it's a lot of money for Buffalo. They're also redoing their defense. But I get it. It's like you get a good player. He's a good player. I look at it more as it is just

delay. When I say desperation, it's the kind of thing you have to do when you just missed on

everything else that Buffalo's done. It's like Dalton, DKMF was supposed to be just like two tight ends that unlock guy and frankly Dalton and he's not been like, I guess down the stretch he was good, but he hasn't been healthy. He had a Coleman obviously was a miss taking him. I mean, I honestly, the bill's probably would have made it suitable by now if they had taken lad Mcconkins to keep in Coleman. And you just go down the line. Like the fact that Brandon Cooks was their

biggest receiver or their most important receiver in that Broncos game and that he's the guy. So I

agree. Like, but that's the point is they had to do it. And now they have to hope that it works. Us being like, well, did they overspend on Tyler Lindervon and paid him like a left tackle? Yeah, but that's what you got to do. I'm like, is this the bill stands right now? Or probably like, I'm excited to have a number one wide receiver on my team who I know is talented in Josh Allen can work with. And I think that's like where the conversation should end. I totally agree. I just

think that I'm not even arguing that much because I like DJ more, I think more than most people. It's just at some point like you're not to make everything about yards. He's 680 yards last year. I mean, if you look at either of five is career. Michael Pettman was traded for a late round picks swap. So yes, Rashid Juhi, last year, fifth round pick, Jacoby Myers, fourth round pick. I'm looking, this trade trades for receivers over the last couple of years. Like George Pettman was a

third rounder. And if Michael Pettman was one six for a second, I think that's second rounder. DJ more is like seven picks away from being a third round pick. This is like the end of the,

The pick they traded, the end of second round picks.

everybody would be saying DJ more for a third and talking themselves into it. And I'm like that is there.

No, the word second rounder trips everybody up because the second, it's made up. All the rounds are fucking made up. Should have just traded them for a third round pick then. That's all. I'm not even that again. I don't think you said, I just thought you're, you're making it sound like we were fucking killing the bills for this. I just thought you were. You guys were screaming. No.

I thought it was slightly better for the bears. I think it makes sense for the bills. I said that.

The other here, I'll scream, but well, it's not a good side, DJ. You can't, you can't film a fan. Daddy chill. Well, well, well, Daddy chill. Well, something, well, here's saying for DJ to scream about D.K. Ken Walker. You see all Super Bowl MVP Ken Walker. Yeah, this is actually the Kansas City cheese. Brutal brutal for me in the sea hoax because I think this leaves a Seattle with almost nothing. No one at running back other than Zack Sharber and he's coming off tardy.

He's worked a lotty, baby. This is more of a tilt. I think. I can't decide. Yeah, so I, here's, here's a desperate. Here's where Kansas City, this is the philosophy or whatever they're reasoning for doing. This is like the last couple of years. Teams have been playing them with, you know, two high coverage shells. Basically, daring them to run the football. And they haven't had any running backs. I could do anything. Like I say,

a pecheco just, you know, sprints into the back of his blockers. And the seventh round, I say, a pecheco off a broken leg. And then cream hunt, who I don't think would play for the other 31 teams. Right. He, well, he wasn't. In fact, he was on his couch.

And so I think from their point of view, he, Ken Walker is like a holistic, this is going to help

fix our whole offense. That's just our run game. Because he's going to be creative explosives on the ground for us. Teams have been begging us to run the football. We'll finally be able to do it with some success and explosiveness. And then that can help them revitalize their their past game. Basically, force teams to defend the run and get them out of those two high shells constantly.

So that's like their theory. To me, again, 14 million for two years or whatever it is, it's 15,

maybe 15 million for three average over three years. That's nothing compared to some of these like receiver contracts. Again, that was J. Lailer money. Yeah, I know. This is like a absurd to me. This is everything. The high fizzles can play me about when, you know, the giants let say one leave. You think if sick one's fucking 12 million a year to dairy slayton, right, it's like fucking, I don't know. I think this is, even though the chiefs do have a ton of

holes on the roster. That's, that's, that's not debatable. I still think this makes sense for them because he's going to create explosive plays. He hasn't even been as injured as kind of people make him out to be as Miss a couple games a year. He didn't miss any games this last year. So, I don't know, I like it. I wish to see how I sort of kept him. I mean, he's had a foot injury. He's played through foot injuries for like years at a time. I love that. So my Kevin's is injury prone and

Kenneth Walker is not. That's what we're deciding. Again, I didn't say that. You're putting words in my

mouth. In situations like this, Kevin Walker can't stay healthy. Okay. And he did this year. So anyway, well, I mean, we've been six games last year. What? Nice. He played, he played every game this year.

Yeah. Well, last, I meant 2024, Kevin Walker. I mean, he had never played a six against until last year.

Right. That was the whole knock on him as he couldn't stay healthier. He had never played a full year. So, yeah. But I was saying, it was overblown. Why? I think because I said you missed out over full of games a year. It's not like he missed entire season. See, he looks themselves. I think his deploy is decided that they actually would not give Ken Walker full workload until they literally ran out of other options. They had no choice. That was just why he left. Can we spend 20 minutes

arguing if this is cool or not for the chiefs? What do you think is it cool? Yeah, it's cool. Travis Kelsey is coming back. That's less cool. This is cool. Right. Giving, giving, Patrick most. Somebody very talented to hand the ball to. We have not seen that before. So this is exciting. Yeah. I don't give you shit about the money. This is exciting. I would like to see Ken and Walker and Patrick, my home is next to one another. That sounds fun to me. I think the

Andy Reed was just in his basement or whatever, watching all the screens for Ken Walker over throughout the playoffs, they're just like, just, you know, getting half child, but he just was like, I'm going to give this guy whatever the fuck it costs. That is really the issue with cream hunt. And Pacheco is like the chiefs so much of what the chiefs lost to is in addition to all the receivers, just sucking is like you, Andy Reed has to have a screen game. Like you can go back

to Brian Westbrook with the Eagles. And I do think that's part of what the Ken Walker thing is, too. But it's Ken Walker and Bersharsick, but there's the only running backs on the roster now. Is it cool? Yeah, it's cool. Also, the chiefs actually like need a backup quarterback. Like my home's tour is they say, what week did my home's terrorist ACL? He says he'll be back for week one, but at the very least he's not like playing in training camp. Like they need a good backup.

Also, this kind of confirms that the chiefs are not taking Jeremiah love with...

pick in the draft. Right. And similarly, the Saints went ahead and paid a ton of, I got to tell you. I used to think I had a little bit of a grip on the Saints, the salaries cap and everything.

This year broke my goddamn brain. The Saints gave Travis CTM what looks every year. 14 million

year for Travis CTM. So they claim it's 50 million. That's super fake. But they're going to give them 14 million year for Travis CTM. And then the Saints also went and signed David Edwards, who was on the Rams for a bit. And then he was on the bills last year as a guard. So the Saints

actually, quietly now are going to have, I think, doing off the top, I had a first round pick at

both tackle spots. And they're paying a lot of money for David Edwards. And then Tyler shook a quarterback and then paying a ton for Travis CTM. Like with Chris or Lava, the Saints actually have a pretty massive amount of investment on their offense. But I don't know, D.K., what do you think of Travis CTM at the Saints? I think it makes a lot of sense. I think Alvin Cameras nearing the end and there's been some reports that he might even retire. Now, they did something we were with his contract

that I had never even heard of before. So I actually think Camero might be done. Yeah. So this

makes sense from that point of view. I don't understand. I'm not even going to pretend to know how the Saints work their cap. I actually do think they're cruxies every year. But I think it makes sense for a team. And this is why I think I mocked to them, Jeremiah Levin the last mock. For a team that's looking to develop their young quarterback, having a running back who can take some of the pressure off of you, create explosive plays on the ground. Again, force offense or force defense

opposing defenses to kind of respect that wrong game. I think it does matter. You can argue that

Travis CTM is not worth what he was paid. But he's still an explosive receiver as over a thousand yards and three out of four seasons. Sorry, explosive runner. But he also is pretty good in the passing game as well. So I don't know. It makes sense. This to me is more just interesting because what does it mean for Alvin Camero go for it? Is he just done at this point? I mean, I mean, it's a giant. I think his cap hits as big as any running back in the NFL almost.

So he's got it. It's like $18 million. So he's probably going to retire. I feel like they just kind of kept it quiet. But yeah, they have the opportunity here to have a pretty good offensive line. I mean, they've they've definitely invested in the offensive line over the years. Kelvin Banks was I think better than people expected to be last year. They're at least Waga at right tackle, a couple of good interior linemen here. Come in with these are Ruiz.

Kelvin Banks is a first run pick at left tackle and then Fwaga. I mean, that's a first run pick at right tackle, right? Then you have the first season of Ruiz was a first run pick at guard. And so now you have David Edwards. But yeah, I mean, overall, I mean, I did a great. If Jalen Naylor,

who was the third receiver behind Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison's getting $11 million.

Yeah, give Travis UT and $14 million. Again, like the cap is up over $300 million. Like Todd Gurly got a $14 million or your contract is running back eight or nine years ago when the cap was under $200 million. The cap has gone up more than a third. And the running back contracts are like the same thing. Like these are all good deals. Yeah. And like just surrounding your young quarterback with talent to see if it's going to work. Like get an offensive linemen

in a skill player. I'm never going to be upset about that. Is it cool, though? Do you think it's

cool Craig? It's not that cool. I think it's not as cool as Ken? It's slightly less cool. Yeah,

for sure. Do you think Jags fans are sad they're losing ETA? No. Yeah. I think I tuned. I do think route for two starting running back for Jacksonville, darned to it and other there's there's so many I'm just going to say other things. There's so many other things. I want to talk about that. That was before all this stuff started. That was traded for Roshan Gary, who is the other kind of adressor for Green Bay. And they were like it's a

day three pick. You said that means seventh round. It was a fourth rounder in 2022. I think I like the cowboys look at every day three pick as just a day three pick. They don't differentiate. We miss that and I get maybe the fourth round's lighter than it was in the past because of NIL. But dude, Roshan Gary, we didn't talk about this because it happened after recorded. Roshan Gary posted on Instagram on Friday. Like a good buy to the Green Bay Packers fan base that was like photo shop

and like very thoughtful with like giant paragraph like thank you to the fans. You guys have been great. You treated me well. Then he deletes it and it was like I was hacked. Hack. Classic hack. They hacked me and made this Adam Shepter ask like graphic design thing to share on my website. Yeah, it's like, oh no, you got hacked. Did they like like send a DM to everyone you know and to get some fishing scam and try to get everyone's credit cards and so scaredy. No,

no, they just posted a super city or a heartfelt goodbye. Yeah. So he says it was, so Roshan Gary announces that he's being fired on Friday. Deletes it. And then the Packers turned it into a fourth round pick next year. So that Roshan Gary, I mean, he's still going to make his cap at this year for Roshan Gary is more this year than Micaparscence's cap pit for Green Bay. Roshan Gary's cap of this year's $19 and $1 billion. The whole point of sending a draft pick, like so this is what happens everywhere.

This is like, you know, Shepter in Rappaport will be like, oh, this guy's goi...

and the team doesn't do it yet. And it's like a giant, it's like an ad in the classified. They're like, hey, someone send us a seventh round pick so you don't have to go get this kind of free agency. And the idea that I'm like, where they really were, to doubtfully have to send a fourth round pick next year for a guy that the Packers were literally going to cut if they did not get a deal.

I feel like you don't see a fourth sent for a guy. I think they're going to re-work his contract

almost surely. But I mean, they can't cut him now. I mean, making Fitzpatrick uphill to the jets and that's in the division. But that was for like a six. There's seventh round pick. Like, I don't know. I thought that was fucking nuts. It's hard to question Jerry when he, when he foresaw Micaport Parsons, Terry gazesio. So I'm not going to question Jerry. Do you think Jerry is still cooking?

Yeah, Jerry is always cooking. It's cooking in the sun. He knows where it's going to be. You're an

advance. Other stuff to text his cut show makes it. I kind of think his career is like over. He's something. I would think so. Yes. But they're so quickly, man. Yeah, they kept an heel hunter too and sheltered rankings. And that deep, yeah, I just, they signed that angry. I'm just bringing people back and hopefully see just Brad's brain is, you know, not going to melt function again in the playoffs.

Another deal. Well, you mentioned the Wandel Robinson to Tennessee. What do you guys make of that? I mean, I got as a Giants fan. I like Wandel. Horrific. I'm happy the Giants and I paint Wandel Robinson $20 million a year. I'm like, we don't know the horrific. Again, I'm just going to say this.

Friagent wide receiver is makes silly money. It's crazy. The best thing you can do as a receiver is

make get to free agency. As a mediocre receiver is get to free agency. Like, are you confident that Wandel Robinson is the best wide receiver on the Titans right now? Like, are you confident? He's the best. I know. No, I mean, I think Cameradilla might be better than the entity. I mean, one day, I'm like, he was, he was, he was good at like a specific thing. I would say that. I'm Brian Dablesoff, it's a coordinator there, which I think was a good higher for Tennessee.

In those, what all these deals are? Are guys bringing in guys that they used to work with? Because they

know it'll work. And people don't want to spend 20 million a year on someone they've never really

met or don't know every day. So the Titans bring in Wandel Robinson and the Dolphins who were with Green Bay, bringing into league. Well, so like, that is how all this works. Like, again, did you get more of the bills? As Dica said, like, Joe Brady worked with, did you more in Carolina? That is how all those works. But man, it does, I get, again, I get it. Like Cameradilla needs receivers to throw to and that's the biggest issue in Tennessee. But it is crazy. The price

that it requires to get. This is the new Christian current to Jacksonville however many years ago. That was like, what, what's going on? Wandel Robinson make a $20 million a year. I mean, he's like a perfect Tennessee Titan. I just, he's just going to disappear and have four catches a game for 35 yards. You just know that. So now they have, so the Titans receiving room is Wandel Robinson. They have Elych, Ioman, or the, who's going into a second year. They have

Chimary D. K. It was kind of good. And I believe that he has been a perfect yards. He did as he's a good returner.

And they have Calvin Ridley. I believe he's still under contract, correct?

He's probably gone. He's, I think he's, yeah, cooked. Hold on. Wandel's best couple games though. He's still under contract. He's one of red flag, though. I mean, Wandel's games where he went ballistic were weak tubers, giants, cowboys, when Russell Wilson, the last great game of Russell Wilson's career. We had 142 yards in the touchdown. But that was also like Dallas, the second area before we really stop bad Dallas as defense was.

And then he also had the Lions game where at the overtime Lions game with James, just firing against the Lions defense that was just totally depleted. And then weeks, weeks 17 against the Raiders, which again was the Raiders literally trying to lose on purpose, putting Max Crosby out to pasture for the season to lose and try to get the first pick, which they did. And if you take out those three games, which again, James versus the Lions defense, Russ versus the Cowboys defense,

and then the Raiders literally trying to lose. I think the rest of the season combined. He had like 550 yards, 600 yards, the other 13 games. It just doesn't feel like what they needed. I don't know. I feel like Cam Ward needs some big guy going catch passes and like make plays down the field. I don't know. Wandel Robinson just feels kind of low ceiling. Yeah. Completely sure. Look at his numbers. He had areas per target 8.5. So underneath target,

explosive play rate 13%, which is very low. Yeah. I don't see that. I don't understand this. He's a good complimentary piece. Not a guy that you make $20 million. He's really supposed to

make him the featured part of your offense. He's never done anything. He's a really explosive player

that was really good. And then he tours ACL. So he came back and then you kind of lose a year because it's like the whole point of being that small and being that as being jittery and you lose the ACL. So last year was like the first year that he ever looked like he was like a worthy second round pick. But yeah, it's just the free agent tag. First round pick. No, he was the 40 second pick. No. But even though I mean for five foot eight receivers kind of high,

for to be the 10th pick of the second round and you're five foot eight. Yeah. I mean he was basically

A, he was like a part-time running back in college.

at their, the Titans, the free agent classes just doesn't feel like this is going to go well.

They also signed Daniel Belinger, San Diego State legend, also because he just, he's going to work

right. Yeah. Yeah. They're just bringing it all the giants because that went so well. The other thing I wanted to mention. So I didn't know what to make. So Jalen Phillips, who was the Dolphins pass rusher that got traded to the Eagles at the trade deadline last year, or like I guess that was a few months ago. And then people kind of thought that Jalen Phillips would go back

to Philadelphia. He signed a four year deal for $120 million in Carolina. Like it absolutely massive.

I don't know what the real numbers are, but Jalen Phillips is getting at least 30 or 40 million dollars a year. What did you make of this, DK? I got, I, I, I mean, it's risky because he's had the injury history, but I mean, he's a good, he's a really good past rusher when he's healthy and that's hard to find, especially on the other market. I understand why you got this money. But it is risky, you know, just because of his injury history even goes back to college, like he retired briefly

for a while. He medically retired in 2018 because he had concussions. He had some issues. He fell on a school scootering around the UCLA campus. He got hurt. I mean, there were just a lot of issues

for him. But he medically retired from football. And then, I mean, I remember reading your scouting report

about him back in the day. Like the biggest issue for Jalen Phillips coming out into the NFL was injuries. Right. Then he went to Miami and like NFL Miami. And then tours Achilles in 2023, then tours ACL in 2024. Yeah. Then he had one healthy season in 2025 and he's getting $100 million. And I'm like, I, I, at risk. He's good. But he's healthy. That's all I can say. So Jalen Phillips, I, I just feel like that's the most classic. Like I just feel like I get why you're doing it. And

this isn't going to work. Yeah. Yeah. This is an injury risk guy. Greg. God. This, this is what I'm talking about when I talk about injury history. But yeah, I don't know, it, it, looking at that Panthers defensive line though. They've got some guys on there. They drafted two or three guys last year, Nick Scorton, Prince Lee, Umon Mealon. In the, in the Naliad Jalen Phillips in there, they got Derek Brown, obviously, already. I guess that's somewhat interesting. I started to talk,

how to get excited about the Panthers? I know that they went to the playoffs and everything. But yeah.

Things happened fast, though teams rise, teams fall. I mean, we're looking, I mean, the lines

are going to cut Taylor Decker. They're left tackle. And then I forget which one he wrote in the group that the Penae Sioux will the right tackle for the, uh, the lines now is going to be the only offensive line that left for the lines since the 20, 24 season. That is wild. How quickly things have changed and Detroit? Yeah, I mean, Frank, Frank rag now, the center retired Graham clouds go also got let go. Taylor Decker is the left tackle. Kevin's finally moved on a year ago. So the line

signed Cade Maze, it's centered three years, 25 million dollars. So seven, a year, which again, is less than Tyler Lindervom is going to make per year for the, for the, for the Raiders, and then

the lines got a center. Probably the second best center on the market for seven million a year.

But the lines and, you know, to a lesser extent, the Browns a little bit, it's such a interesting case study and how hard it is. Everybody talks about, we got to get, we got to build in the trenches. We got to get it off a great offensive line. It's so hard to build and keep a good offensive line together. Um, I mean, look at the Browns for a couple of years ago, like they had a bunch of first Raiders on their offensive line. And it was good for a couple of

years. But now that group is completely falling apart. Everybody's gone, uh, in now the lines who, again, spent tons and tons of resources to bring in all these guys and have the awesome offensive line kept it together for like two years. And, and now it's completely falling apart. It's just so hard in the NFL. There's so many moving pieces, especially on the offensive line, where injuries are such a huge factor every year and money. Um, it's just really, really hard to

build that and keep it together for very long at all. The Rams speaking, which the Rams have decided to just throw a ton of money at their problems too. The Rams, so they traded for Trent McDuffie last week. We talked about that. The Rams have since given Trent McDuffie 31 million dollars a year, which is just, I have to wrap my mind around that. But yeah, I mean, he's a good corner back. Then they signed Jalen Watson, he's the other chiefs corner back. So

they're bringing both chiefs outside corner backs in for what, I mean, basically $50 million a year

for both, uh, and then not to mention the first round pick that they gave. I will. I will give it to the chiefs corner backs. Then they extended Kim curl at safety. So they just, just brought everyone back and then added two chiefs corner backs. I feel like the Rams, among every other team, are better or more aggressive at addressing obvious issues than any other team of the NFL. I mean, even if you look back at a couple of years, they're like, I quarterback, I don't know if

we can get over the home for their quarterback. Let's just trade for Matt Stafford to make this giant blockbuster. Fuck it. They are so shameless when it comes to fixing issues and addressing issues that they have. I mean, if you look at after Aaron Donald retired, they went out and drafted a couple of guys on the defensive line and all of a sudden the defensive line was fixed, like almost immediately. They're so good at just finding those their their issues and immediately

rectify it. I feel very simple, doesn't it? Yeah. Like, well, we don't have good corners.

We'll just give a lot of money to corners.

now that's not our biggest weakness. It's great. The Greg Rosenthall pointed this out too at NFL daily where he and he's so right. With the Rams have been most aggressive in years where they are hosting the Super Bowl at their stadium. Like they went all in, they gave in like

the two first for Chile and Rams eat everything. Like, that was the year that they had the original

Super Bowl at so-fi stadium. Rams at the state. Super Bowl this year again. Stand crooked the owner.

I do think cares a lot about that and I think it's more willing to go all in. And again,

the Rams won the Super Bowl their own stadium. Like, that's insane. And the Rams are going to try to do it again. A lot of all in teams this year, man. There's going to be a real like top heavy and bottom heavy situations going to be a barbell league. Do teams like the jets that cardinals in the Browns. It is going to be the tankathon is going to start quick for those three teams. Yeah. I agree. They amount of teams that you're kind of like, wow, this really is the year versus

teams that have no shot. Like last year, all we talked about was the like, you know, the parody. I don't feel that way entering the season at all. No. Other stuff, I mean, this is right. Cardinal

sign Tyler L. Gier, which I didn't see coming for six million a year. The Cardinals did. Yeah.

So maybe maybe not drafting Jeremiah love. We're kind of crossing off teams that are going to draft Jeremiah love. I was going to say, is it going to be the Titans or Johnson you? It's going to be the fucking Titans dude. You think it's going to be the Titans. I do. You know, it's funny because I roll them out. And then you're like, no, it's the Titans. It really might be, though.

Yeah, I think that's so terrible. I'm sorry. I know that I was, I argued in favor of having

them running back for some of these teams, but that's free agency. This is the third. Because the reason I know I'm sure is that you'll immediately pay Jeremiah love 15 million dollars a year if you take them for them. And it's like, so at that point, just pay Ken Walker 15 million a year because the difference is, right, the Raiders get Mendoza for 16 million dollars a year, but if Mendoza was good, he'd be paid 50 or 60. So that is the argument against it. But

Ken Walker is injury-prong. That's true. Ken Walker. Yeah, no. Because now you go through it. And you're like, all right, the first three picks are not going to be Jeremiah love 10 to see if four could do it. The Giants are not going to do it five. The Browns are not going to do it. Some people think the Giants will do it for the Raiders. I think the Giants are more likely to take Jeremiah love than he thinks. I was on the athletic show that their life free agency show and they were

thinking the Giants were like the team now for Jeremiah love. I was like, man, I hate that. I hate that. I don't believe they're going to do that. I don't know about Scataboo. I mean, I know it's got a long rehab coming up here. Is there any chance that the commanders take him at seven? Sure. That was a huge crazy thing every year. The commanders have no running backs. They didn't do anything in free agency. We see, Jacord Crosskeeping at Bill Merritt is alive. How dare you? Well,

there you are. How dare you? How dare you? How dare you, sir? The man they called Bill is still playing clay. Who didn't even get the ball do? They don't need defense at all. They just, yeah, it's just outscore everyone. What's like, commanders are quietly falling apart. It's almost like the oldest team in the NFL that was healthy for that one season is. I mean, they're just, I don't think commanders fans are super happy about things. Who's going to get yards on the

commanders? This is a very important. Who's trailing Berks guys? Yeah, he's back. You have Luke McAfrey. You have trailing Berks. You're running backs or Jacord Crosskeeping Merritt. Is it Austin Eccler? He's coming off in Achilles. He's like 31. Who are they going to give the ball to? Man, is it going to be, are the commanders going to be another cautionary tale and how to deal with a rookie, like a really valuable rookie contract in terms of like really fucking it up? Because obviously

the first year, Jay and Dale saw some, but yeah, it's kind of tough. Debo, Debo's gone. They re-sign Laramie tonsil today. Yeah. They can't get them money. Fuck it. Slap a running back on that Lee. Oh, speaking to what Lee, speaking to Washington though, the commander's cut Tyler by a dozen. Yeah, I got it. God damn it. I'm going to buy a nice fucking bridge by a dog. Whatever. They cut their center. Who cares his name is his name's looking Tyler, like all the other

set in the field. They're only Tyler. And the chargers that immediately signed him for a more

money. They gave him like the, the Washington went to say $8 million a year and then can be chargers

came in and he gave him like 10 million year over three years. And why that doesn't a big deal in it of itself. The issue is that you do whatever the other team knows, which is you pretend to cut them and then you trade him to the chargers and you get six or seven pick out of it for like a 10 minute

phone call. And the fact that Washington could not get that accomplished, I think he's actually the

concern, which is why were they not, if the packers could build the cowboys for a fourth round pick next year, when Rochon Gary had already posted an Instagram release, I don't understand a Washington could get a seventh round pick out of out of the chargers for this if the chargers are going to give them a three year contract. So that is, it's just the larger what is, I don't understand what

Washington's doing in the front office.

where they signed tight in Charlie Colour from Baltimore. Yeah. And they also, this guy's leaving

the chargers, but Zion Johnson their guard went to the Browns for 32 million guaranteed three and

50 million dollar deal. And they get side-allic angle, the full back, Mike McDonald reuniting with his

full back in Miami, baby. Listen, let me tell you, I think we're going on your five of this,

but the chargers are fucking back. Chargers do you think this is the year? Yeah, too. Craig, you're going to do a big, like, solidly about how they're finally over the hump. This isn't your same old chargers. This is not your father's chargers. No. And then everything is going to immediately fall apart. You know that meme, that like cartoon about gambling, where it's like the guy in the mine, he's like, he's like one foot away from diamonds. And it's like this could be you. And then it shows

the guy like turning to walk back home. That's, that's us with the chargers. We are very close to striking oil. And it's this year. Sure. All right. Any other, I mean, there's a thousand things.

Anything else you guys want to talk about? It's funny. The first thing I wrote in this

doc from four days ago is Miles Garrett having nice beating tickets since 2017, because he got another speeding ticket, but I'm like, yeah, 100 in the seven day, I get it. Slow down, man. Should you stop, just get a driver. Oh my god, a crudel flanker. God damn, a crudel flot went to the Titans. God damn it. The Titans are just taking all the giants players. The giants are signing in a lot of people. Hi, if it's this, the giant sign. I say, likely it's who the giant, I say,

likely they all throw the guy in love. I say, likely. And I love having him in fear, Johnson. It's just too crazy. Yeah, that's nice. What if we're dealing with Isaiah, likely, reuniting with John Harrow? He likes playing 50% of the snaps. The giant's just signing tremendous. Yeah. Oh my god, the giant's seeing a linebacker so bad. The giants could have wiped their entire linebacker slate. Just like to get rid of all of them, I would have been fine with it. I'm, I don't,

anyone is an improvement over the giant's linebacker. The giants are also another team that we, we might be historically back with the giants this year. You think the giants are, you think the giant's charge is super cool? I, could be. Harrow versus Harbow. True. Wow. I do think that the giants are probably going to be everybody's sleeper team this year. I mean, I don't think they're going to be very good, but like, yeah. I got the giants paid a punter. The giants made

a punter the most expensive punter in the NFL, and I'm like, that actually is such a red flag. Yeah.

Yeah. I think like the four or five wind team that's going to win nine or 10 games this year.

A lot of people are going to pick the giants. Fourth place schedule, Harbow, year two of Dart,

Malik neighbors back. You think it's because of the punter they signed for four and a half million

dollars a year. He can really boot it. So who else is going to be the team, New Orleans? 10 to see, maybe? I don't know. No, everyone's going to be on the giants because they're going to be like, you know, the Patriots did a last year. This will happen again. Meanwhile, it's not going to happen. Maybe Vegas. Yeah, Vegas Vegas is fun. But Vegas is we should just like name our 2027 teams right now. Chargers, chargers and raiders, 2020. Chargers are going to be awesome

in 2027. Oh, yeah. Especially when Alec Pierce gets cut from the culture caps base, it 's going to be so good. Okay. We're going to have another episode this week on free agency because there's so many deals. Anything else you guys want? Any other things or just take away from today? I agree that my biggest takeaway is just the post, Mahomes ACL, Chiefs, AFC and all these teams seeing the Patriots of Drake may make a Super Bowl. I really do think the flash, their midlife

crisis in front of all these teams and the bills and the ramins and everyone's just freaking out. Yeah, this is their year. You got to go for it. Chris Godwin tweeted a sad face because my goal left. Man, I love this godwin back to work, Joe. Are we back in on Godwin this year, by the way? No. What about a book? Who's going to catch passes a book? Okay. We'll see. I'm going to a book is going to be my number of guys for fantasy. I can tell everyone's

like, what happened to him? I'm like he got hurt. Yeah, he was hurt. Brian Cook to the bankals. They do need defensive players. Yeah, they need that. So I can see that. I was just taking the chiefs secondary. I was given Josh Downs to the to the bankals. We guess maybe Josh Downs? You mean Caleb Downs? Who do I? I keep calling on that. Yeah. Well, they wrote Caleb Downs. That's true. They're brothers. I don't feel that bad.

But yeah, now I kept giving Caleb Downs to them and now I suppose I could still do it, but

that might make it a little less likely. Do you guys want an email? You want to just go?

Yeah, give me an email. All right. Let's see. Claims my palate. First man, guess there's a lot, man. First of all, we're talking about decating case ideas every day. Skip Bayless eats chicken and broccoli from a local Chinese restaurant every single day for 14 years. Oh, macros cane. Chicken and protein. Yeah, I guess seems a little

Little, let's probably a little bit more healthy.

in his mid seven days. So he works at he's done cardio every day for an hour for 17

year. No, since he wasn't three. Yeah. But then he, I guess during the week at ESPN, or he used to, he would live in a comfort in in Bristol, can I get during the week, Monday to Friday? And so he didn't really have a kitchen or anything. So he would just eat chicken and broccoli every day and he got used to it. So now it's been 17 years in a row from eating chicken and broccoli every day for lunch. Craig, you mentioned he's weirdly ripped.

Yeah. As I, as I age, I don't want to turn into the weirdly ripped guy because I think that's like a little creepy. Is what's the, there's a fine line between being in good shape when you're older and being like, like, like, it looks weird. He's weirdly weirdly ripped. I think I think after 60, you don't need a bison vein. What are you saying? Or if kids you knew Craig? I don't think

you have to like, like, there's only a certain, once you get to be a certain age, I don't want

to see your veins, never wear. I don't want to see some of your vascular activities. Well, because you

go from, while that guy's really healthy, to wow, I actually think this might be bad for him. Right. This looks like you're about to explode. Your body's your hard to get you. Defending your veins. I like working out in jeans. That always kind of hurts a little bit. Imagine it does for him as well. Have you guys seen dude skip? I don't know why I still follow skip, but on Twitter now. I don't know how long he's been doing this, but he posts like 10-minute videos

of his wife's life. Heaven is wife, Urdestine. Urdestine, and it'll be like Urdestine and I debate. Was the Iron War worth it? And what's the best cupcake frosting? What the fuck is going on? We are living in a simulation. It's confirmed. I got to get Urdestine's take on this. It's back to the Monroe Doctrine and also Urdestine likes red velvet.

He said he's like the best at tidling. It's honestly like our titles to be honest. It's like

serious, less serious ridiculous. He gets it, man. He gets it. He does get it. He's a pro. I just love the ones where he just takes his jersey and throws it in the garbage. Oh yeah, those are good. He just hates his hair. He doesn't talk. He just starts the camera. Urdestine's holding the camera for him. Yeah. And it's like that he has his own name. His or I found out his wife's name. I thought her name was Furn for a little bit. Because I could tell what

he was saying. And I'm like, Ernestine, right? He's wife's in Furn, but it's Ernestine. Great name. Anyway, he like he'll have her turn on the camera. He stairs into the camera. Hold up his jersey. Storms off. Finds the garbage. Stuff's it in. Camera off. Yeah, no words. ABC cancel Jimmy Kimmel and New York Bagels overrated. What? All right. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, the Ravens for content. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, boo.

Thank you, everlasting emails. We're going to fancy football, GMO.com. Thank you, Lord. Lord. Thank you, childish Gambino. Nice. Nice. I was listening to the stay woke song the other day. It's a banger. Yeah, red bone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Crazy that that all kind of he kind of did. Speaking of things someone just did. He kind of just did that. And then it was and get out. Now it's woke. Well, yeah. But that's kind of crazy that

it's just one of the more impressive careers. Oh, yeah. For somebody who kind of just can do like

writer, actors, singer, songwriter kind of just can do it all. Well, trash, right. I never watched

the Mr. Missy Smith show that he did on Amazon. But I heard it was good. Oh, I watched a couple episodes. I like it. I need to keep watching it. Need to finish it. Didn't like it enough. No, that's that's not an indication that I didn't like it because I just don't watch shows very much anymore. But yeah, he was funny on community. He used to have a YouTube channel way back in the day called Derek comedy that I used to watch with my buddy. Yes. And there really has done everything.

Really funny sketches back in the day with with Donald Glover and like two other guys. He was also Lando Calrision. Yeah. I mean, he's had a crazy career. I love Charles Kimbino. But his stand-up was also good. Like his stand-up. Yeah. Yeah. I don't love communities, much as other people. But I also didn't get a season one and then everyone gets mad at me for that. But I'm like, I know I need to watch the latest seasons. But

which is funny. Well, yeah, I guess. Not overhype, not overhype, but I just got too much hype

before I watched it. It's very coldy. And it's people feel protective over community. Honestly in the

same way. I mean, it's the same guys. It's Dan Harmon. It's your fucking Rick and Morty guy. And I feel like people feel the same way about Rick and Morty as a do about community where it's like very, it's theirs and no one else. But the, yeah, and everyone tells you to watch it and then you're like, oh, how could this possibly? I think with with community too, it's some of the payoff is in the

Later seasons where all the like inside jokes are coming back and things like...

It was kind of like a rest of development in a way. Where are our house? There's so many bits.

What? No, just that looks like our house. It was kind of like the hipster comedy to like on NBC during that stretch when it was like the office in Parks and Rec and 30 Rock. And like that was normie comedy and then community was for like, you know, the underground people who really understood the people with taste. Yeah, people with taste. And I'm tasteless. I'm just like high. You just hear the lowest comment denominator. Hi, if it's you just like the dumb shit.

I liked community. I did not like it as much as those other three shows I just named. Dude, I had, I had a friend at high school gave to the entire thing to be like, like, like, I guess I shouldn't say that. Well, it's not a USB. Who's fine. It was 20 years ago.

I think it's all right. Yeah. I think you're safe. They're not going to throw up a lot of it.

Watch it so bad. And it was like, it's fine. He was good. Is there anything worse than that? Yeah, it's all right. You know that feeling of like when you play a song for someone that you're like, and you could, I just sit there and just kind of like, you're like, yeah, I know you feel, you know what you mean. You're putting on a YouTube video for somebody. This is really funny. Watch this. You're so vulnerable. It's like the 15 seconds in your fucking sweat and your balls off.

We don't have to watch it. We can turn off, Sarah. I wish I'd never said anything.

Stop it when you get home. Delete this memory. Yeah. That's a, my, a lot of my friends, you have the women joke that like when a man shows you, a YouTube video, just like in their culture like that's a sign of great respect. All right. Like with a man shows you YouTube video. He's led you into his world. It's true. Yeah. It's very true. This, it's very similar to like the in a couple word. Typically, I don't know if it's typical,

but generally speaking, like, I like different reels than to give me likes in terms of on Instagram and stuff. So when we share it with each other's reels, they're great. It's not all Amanda seafood, all right.

It's other stuff. It's fun. It's not mine. I wasn't thinking about her. I thought you were going to talk about football, but

okay. Oh, I thought you're saying there's a lot of football clips. Sure. Sure. Um, no, but it's like just like you can hear each other cracking up in the other room. And then like you're like, I just said something to you and you're like, oh, God, I will say, true intimate modern friendship is just sending your friend the, like, memes back and forth, the DM and not responding. That is like the highest level of intimacy. Maybe like put a little like on there or something. Even that might be too much. Yeah. You just sit down at dinner.

Like, did you watch the memes that said you honey? No, I don't know how to talk about it. Yeah. Yeah. You didn't see the robbing a bagel shop down the street. I saw you that meme. Punch the monkey. The monkey is, is the other monkey is our big nice to this monkey. Did you not see skip bailis is talking about the Iran war. What is it to talk? I said you,

what if an urgency of the war? I don't want to know. Do you want to know the cupcakes on Iran?

I think Craig just sends this question says this is 15 minutes long. It's unbelievable. They're so long. I think I have no one to talk to about it. No one has time to watch a 15 minute skip an artistine clip. Dude, he just posted a clip. This was a few days ago. With Megan, this is a seven minute clip of him in his wife. With Megan the stallion making her Broadway debut, I respect her achievement in her work because she has achieved a lot and anyone who achieves

to that level gets high marks for me because it's hard to get where she is. And it's six minutes of them talking about Megan the stallion on Broadway. No one's doing it like him. For probably for good reason. Do you want to talk about Megan the stallion on Broadway? That's a good question. Oh, actually here we go, March 4th. Ernestine and I share our thoughts on the war on Iran. How six minutes long? Six and a half minutes. I'm going to dive into that.

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