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All of you. Good for all of you. Welcome to Bringer Fantasy Football Show, aka the ringer NFL. Drash of my name is Danny Hype and today I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Corroleck and

what a bizarre Tuesday night in sports. The jet's reunited with Gina Smith. Bam at a Bayo had 83 points in an NBA basketball game,

passing Kobe Bryant for the second most ever.

America lost to Italy in baseball because the Americans didn't know the game counted. I can't believe that. We all these are going to start with the Ravens backed out of the Max Cross betrayed. And we're going to bring an Austin Gail here at the ringer who's a massive Raiders fan, which is really sad.

Massive Raiders fan to remember any of the Raiders memories of being good.

“We're going to bring him in for really I think DK, we might have to do supreme fantasy”

court if we're being on. I know. I know. Craig, should we do a special session? I think we need to.

I think this calls for it. We need to. But before that real quick, I want to mention we're also going to do a March madness bracket again. We did it last year.

We had a lot of fun with it. So we're going to give rigor merch out, shout out again to Danny G, who won last year. Who. Danny G. I'll be totally honest.

I forgot to send it to him. I'm going to send it to him this week. So I'm sending him rigor merch. I know. I knew it.

No way. I got it. I got it. I got it. But I'm being honest.

I'm coming clean. But anyway. We're going to do a March madness bracket. I'm sending it to him. I got his address and everything.

Selection Sunday is this Sunday. So we're going to try to take Fraser on next week on this show to do a March Madness preview. But the game start next Thursday, you're hearing this probably Thursday, March 12th. The game start next week.

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So I don't know. There will be no breakdown. We can change it. Never mind. Okay.

I mean, I don't want to talk about that in this year. So any other team I'm happy to talk about. Yeah. No, that's brutal. A prizes TVD.

So we could do ringer merch again. But you know. And the prize will come in twenty twenty seven. Well, yes. Exactly.

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It's our energy. Yeah. So join our March Madness bracket. And that is in the episode description. So with that said, we're going to bring in Austin Gale.

And you're as fan is the plaintiff here.

“But I think it's time for Supreme Fantasy Court.”

Definitely don't tell anyone about this thing that you're doing. I don't really want to be handcuffed. The definition of an object is a material thing that can be seen and touched. Can you touch your cloud? Court is in session.

We are joined by Austin Gale, Raiders fan. Um, Austin, not usually how you start court, but, um, Max Crosby, back on your favorite

player, traded for two first round picks to the Ravens.

And then on Friday night, and then Tuesday, the Ravens failed them on a physical on Tuesday night. And then they signed Tray Hendrix and to basically all the Max Crosby money on Wednesday morning. How do you feel, Austin?

How are you doing? My breakfast was a black coffee and starting Facebook groups to Jan 6, the Ravens organization. That's kind of where we're at. Right now, um, I'm reading every report. And I have notifications on three different platforms of Deanna Racini.

I need to see everything. I need to take cost of files. I need to know what happened here. This does not happen in the NFL for a reason. This has never happened.

People bring up the brokers. The grant will get into it. This does not happen. This was bad faith, bad business. They ripped Vegas Cona, the dreams from me over a weekend.

I can't believe this happened.

“I think I have ideas for best case worst case, but this is no doubt a meteor, a nuke, dropped”

into the Raiders lap after they spent 280 mil on Monday, thinking Max Crosby was a Raven. What do you think the physical was like, do you think they hit Max Crosby's knee with a literal hammer? And they were like, did that hurt? He's like, yeah, I'm like, well, what's like you can't make it on the team.

Sorry.

We can make jokes all day long. Like, the thing is, everyone knew that Max Crosby had the surgery at the end of the season. Wasn't a trim. It was a repair.

Rappaport had receipts. They talked to the surgeon before they made offers to the trade.

“That's the Raven doctors and I think what had happened because of this legal tampering”

period. They get to Tuesday and all of a sudden, it's kind of easy to drum up that this knee that yes has been surgically repaired and he has other injuries to and he's turning 29 might this is the quote might have long term concerns, like, anyone can make that up the Tuesday after the Monday where they're talking to Trey Hendrickson, like, this is very clearly

like, yes, maybe his knee doesn't make sense for two first round picks, but you can't agree to the trade Friday and then get out of it one day after. It's like, this is a shirt that can. It's legal. It's legal.

It's legal. And I don't know if the league is going to come down on the Ravens for this, but like, in terms of, like, get delir, whatever. But I might. I think other teams are really upset by this.

Again, this doesn't happen. It's bad faith. It's bad business. It's why like there's a bunch of mud throwing in the media right now. Like, people are really upset with the Ravens.

To cost us going live right now, spewing probably lies, mind you, but it's an unfortunate situation for the Raiders. And I can't believe the Ravens did it. You got to come up with like a Trump nickname for Eric to cost a, like, depropaganda or something. And he's got his own name.

Go to the cost. Yeah. Yeah. Really. Yes.

He is. He's costing me a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Just to go through this again.

I mean, I actually just started writing down a list of questions I had personally throughout this, not even for content, but I just, because I realize that,

I mean, this has never happened.

I mean, nothing like this has really happened.

“Like, in sports sometimes, I think every year, at least in, in one of the sports,”

basketball, baseball, football, you see either a freeze in signing or trade, voided because of a physical and like all signings and all trades are dependent on the physical. They're mostly formalities for the most part. They, you know, I would say 99% of them. It's fine.

But every now and then. And did it, like, if it's one of them was they discovered a brain tumor. Yes. Jerome Harris soon was traded. I think to the Eagles.

Like, that's the kind of thing that normally would cancel out a trade like this. Yeah. Actually, you know what? The surgically repaired knee that we knew about is actually, it's surgically repaired. And gosh, you know what?

Trade head just wasn't still out there. He wasn't supposed to take a physical and so June. Like his knee, they know is not ready to be evaluated. Yeah. They knew all of this going in.

Like, it's, it's. They knew. They knew. They knew. They knew.

They knew. They knew. They knew. I think I do think that this is just honestly, the, the, the, 11 billion dollar football team organization version of just post nut clarity.

If we're being honest, like, I feel like the Ravens did something completely. I did something completely out of character. They're a draft and develop team to our family team. They're, you know, they go home to their wife. And they had this one night on Friday night where they were like,

It was Friday night. It was Friday night. It was Friday night. And it's like Max Crosby. Two first round games.

Tricks were flowing. What was it? It was like nine Eastern. And then they were passing. And they're like, oh, they like, Oh, my gosh.

What happened? Yeah. Two first. Like they're my home to free. And every treated one in the whole history of the team.

And they treated two. You can't tell me over the weekend those, the decision makers had a stomach ache. They're like, Oh, my God.

We've never traded a first round pick.

We traded two and it started as genius. For it. And we just picked with the line. Yeah. As much as it pains me to say, this is just incredibly savvy word by Baltimore.

It really is. That's the saddest part. That's the saddest part. This is the saddest part. This is fucking Machiavellian.

This is so smart. Them giving this ridiculous package to Max Crosby. A few days later, they realized that Tray Henderson's still out there. We can get rid of Crosby. Get our two first round picks back.

Get the second best option at past, Russia. Oh, are we sure we're maybe overpaying Tray Henderson a little bit. But is that worth getting two first round picks back? Yes. Let's do that.

Send him back to the Raiders where that makes no sense. Now, because they just filled the roster to replace Max Crosby. They also lost Linda bomb. They're like shit. We thought we were going to have Linda bomb.

Like, now we have all this extra money. It's expertly done by Baltimore. You have to give it to him. It's a mafia move and they nailed it. I know.

“I was going to say, like, do I think the ravens did something illegal?”

No. Was it insanely bush league? Yes. Like, what's the punishment for being total bush league? Exactly.

I don't know. Maybe the only route is to go to your code red. Like, is there a league code red thing something that they could do? Look, they know the rules and they followed them, right? They didn't pass the physical.

Every team has their own standards of what is required to pass the physical. And the ravens are like, he didn't pass our test. What are you going to say? You want to get challenge our doctor? And I don't want to get lost in the technicalities.

But it's important to remember, like, the whole weird thing with the week. We're recording this Wednesday afternoon, March 11th. None of these deals are technically official to 4 p.m. Eastern.

So technically Max Crosby never was a raven because they do all the deals.

He was in their physical chairs. No one moves chair. It's very difficult. He's in their building for a whole day. He was like rehabbing in the Ravens facilities.

The fact that they were seen and reported that they were on the phone with

Trey Hendrickson, while Max Crosby was there.

“That Max Crosby's there for eight hours in the Ravens facility met everyone.”

Brought his family. Mr. Coaches met the scape met everybody met trainers. And then there are the phone entrance. Well, he's there. That's what the poor said.

Trey Hendrickson was going to sign with the Colts until he found out about them backing out of the Crosby trade. I like it. They do. Hayden Winks made this analogy.

I thought it was perfect. The Ravens left their bride at the altar for a Bridesmaid. Yes. Is that illegal?

No. Does it look good? No. No. Like I said, the only recourse for this is spiritual.

It has to be a curse. It's got to be a Crosby curse here. Like the raiders aren't going to get anything for this. Leaks not going to do anything. But this is bad karma.

I've been doing it for a while now. I've been doing it for a while now. I've been doing it for a while now. I've been doing it for a while now. I've been doing it for a while now.

The worst case for this is you trade crossbeam for sense on the dollar, not because, in my opinion, the physical brings him down, which, like, maybe doctors have different opinions. We have to give some credits at that, like him filling the physical having this or drink whatever the real problem is hours after this trade was announced. I've been doing it for a while now. I've been doing it for a while now. I've been doing it for a while now. I've been doing it for a while now.

I've been doing it for a while now. I've been doing it for a while now. I've been doing it for a while now. I've been doing it for a while now. I've been doing it for a while now.

I've been doing it for a while now. I've been doing it for a while now. As part of the trade process, we were not able to complete the process based on our assessment of the situation. This guy playing with the lawyers right now. How old are you?

What kind of work are you in? Well, we'll let it work you in. Construction. I fell off a trace man. It's me.

No. You can't actually say anything because technically he's maxed across. He's just another player in the contract for another team and they're not allowed to talk to him. I do want to go a couple things of housekeeping with all this just because it's worth going through. Max cross me did have any surgery on his miniscus at the end of the season.

That was two months ago. Max cross me was on crutches until two weeks ago and Max cross me is not ready to play football again or practice in any capacity two two months from now. So on one hand, you could argue that no team was going to quote unquote pass them on a physical now. Because frankly, players aren't usually traded on this kind of timeline or at least for this much. Like, it players are not usually traded when they were just on crutches.

However, there's also a reason that this almost never happens and has more or less almost never happened for a deal this big.

Which is all the teams knew this. Like all the other teams, the bears, the cowboys, all the other teams that put a first and a second round together for this package and the Ravens beat it with two first rounders. All the other teams knew that this was the deal.

“So I think the weird part is, it's not that the Ravens failed them on a physical and again, it's subjective.”

What it means is they're like, ah, given the risk reward, it's a no for me dog. Like if it was a seven round pick, they'd probably say yes. It's like it's very subjective. Different doctors could give different evaluations and the trade package could change it. Now, they did get five independent doctors apparently including the Cowboys team doctor waiting in an independent capacity.

Which is also a bullshit because you think Jerry Jones isn't calling the independent doctor that works with the Dallas Cowboys about what it's a whole thing. But other team doctors weighed in on this and saw all the exams and everything. But the point as did Neil and trash. Neil and trash. Neil and trash.

Who did? Yeah. Neil and trash. Just on the phone. That I'm chef.

Who's like the top sports surgeon in the country who worked on Kobe's Achilles, Ota's arm. Aaron Rogers Achilles. He said that, of course, because it was his handy work. That Max Crosby was progressing better than so ahead of schedule.

But with that said, there's an argument that he was never going to Max Crosby is never going to quote unquote pass a physical.

The weird part is if the rabies do that, why the fuck do they accept the trade for two first and Friday night?

Which is why where everyone kind of leans is.

The occupants razor is two things.

The least sexy answer of all is, well, Max Crosby see is probably degenerative because he plays a lot of fucking snaps and never comes off the goddamn field.

And it's not that great of a long-term outlook on his knee, which they probably should have suck coming.

“And honestly, if anything, it reminds you of DKO he says about when you buy a house.”

Don't look in the walls. Like DKO he says, like, don't look in the walls. You don't want to see it's in there. It's easy to say, oh, we'll trade for him. He's great. Watch the tape. Max Crosby is amazing.

Then they look in his knee and they're like, oh my god, there's a lot of moisture in here. Like, we might have to fix this. This might be a long-term problem. And I feel like, honestly, I just think the rabies got, Yeah, like they just kind of had the poster clarity of like, oh my god.

Like, this guy can't practice yet. Why didn't we give the two first for him? So what now? Like, what is Max Crosby's trade value? He's not going for two first from picks anymore.

He's tainted by the news of him not passing the physical. The ravens giving up on him. Like, will he get traded Austin? Do you think he's going to get traded? And what do you think the package is going to be?

I'd argue the lowest point of Max Crosby's trade value is right now. If not like yesterday. And I think what the reports have been coming out where like Raiders camp is clearly trying to push this narrative is that we're willing to play him this season.

And we have the money to keep him. We're not, you know, relocating our free agency deals. We're going to honor those two, unlike the ravens. But we're going to honor those two. And they're going to go into this season saying, like,

okay, maybe we trade him closer to the draft. If the compensation gets closer to what they were going to get for Baltimore, which probably won't. And then there's another option where you wait until after the 2026 NFL draft, focus all the capital into 2027, like a 2027 first and a 2027 second,

which still would feel like sense on the dollar, given that you got him off the books for two first.

“I think that the way you do this is you hold face,”

say you're prepared to play him all the way up into the season, even up into the deadline and wait until his trade value is at least gotten out of the hole it's in now. Like it would be ridiculous to trade him in the next week. I know on Friday he has like a bunch of money and guarantees through 2027

that will go on the books. I think you eat that. You go to the 2026 NFL draft, continue to feel the offers. And wait until like this thing's at least salvageable. Like cross, we was in the building at six a.m. this morning.

The relationship wasn't great in December of last year. Now after all of this after the Raiders did write by him, trade him to an organization and the Ravens burned him. He might hate the Ravens more than he doesn't want to play for the Raiders. So I think there might be actually interest in him playing for the Raiders.

He said in his goodbye video that he's since deleted by the way, that he would want to retire as a Raider. He is a Raider for life. I think that there's a good chance that this helps men the wounds a bit. And again, it's revenge maxing.

He's going on tour 18 plus sacks. We get into the wildcard round. Uh oh, here come the Ravens. I don't know. I'm fanfiction over here.

That's best case.

“I think that honestly, it's more likely that he gets dealt.”

And it's like either near the 26 NFL draft for cents on the dollar or closer to the season. But I don't think they ever get to first pack. And to your point, the Raiders spent like a hundred, like, I can't even fake think of the numbers. Two million dollars.

Yeah, and I'm absolutely insane amount because they had very little on the books. And there's a salary floor that they had it. And so they actually can keep crawls.

They still need like 25 30 million for the draft class.

Um, but DK. Obviously, if someone offered the Raiders to first, or Max crawls, me right now, they would take it in a heartbeat. Obviously, the market's different now because teens kind of spent their money. But if the team offered a second round of for Max crawls,

you'd be like, go fuck yourself. But right now, let's say the bear's called back and just offered a first and a fourth. Would you take that a few of the Raiders? Probably not. I think I would go with what Austin was saying is like,

just stick with them, you know, prove that you're willing to put your money where your mouth is in terms of like hanging on to him and trying to repair that. You're leverage right now, like what Austin was alluding to is like the Raiders have no leverage. You know, like everyone thinks that you're trying to just dump him for whatever. That eliminates their leverage.

So trying to just re-establish some of the leverage in terms of, you know, his value on the open market. I think you just hang on to him. Because if everyone thinks that they're just trying to get rid of him for nothing, that just, you know, they're not, they're not going to offer anything near what they got before. You know what's funny?

I don't know if there's any things that it's just a no call off because I remember something. Often thing, a chef or eating a rap reported said is that the none of the teams are going to call the Raiders back. Because they think the Raiders are going to call them. But if you're the Raiders, you can't call anyone. Yeah.

You can't just shout. It got full life on chicken. Yeah. They were going to call me. And then it's not going to talk.

There was an anonymous like high ranking executive in the athletic. That was like calling the Raiders about Crosby. And like his quote was like, yeah, they're in a really bad spot. Like imagine calling them, being like, hey, how's it going with Crosby? And you come out of like, yeah, they're, they're really struggling.

I mean, the immediate fell into their lap last night after they spent all this money with their expectation being. We have two first round picks and next year and the Lea after his draft last.

And we don't have this 30 million.

Like they spent all day on Monday thinking Max Crosby was a raven. Like no matter how you slice this, how late this decision came from Baltimore with all the other stuff it being unprecedented. Like it completely puts the Raiders in a bad spot. Like it and it hurts them in a big way. They signed Quitty paid a replacement for like 30, whatever.

25, 30 million here. That's kind of awkward now. But I don't know, part of me's like, oh, ironically, you do all this stuff on offense. And you're like, oh, before you get a Max Crosby player on defense.

You're like, oh, when they have Max Crosby back.

The other thing I wanted to mention is just the amount of physicals that like. They can be wrong. Like Drew, like Nick Sabin and the dolphins fail Drew Breeze on his physical. They tried to sign him for Miami in 2006. They failed him on his shoulder.

And then he went to New Orleans and played 15 more years. One of Superl and finish his career as the NFL's all-time leading your passing leader. So they can be wrong with this. You don't have to check.

“I think you can go to three different doctors and get three different opinions.”

Totally. I think the best storyline outcome here is that he stays with the Raiders and the Raiders are pretty good this year. And now their defensive line is actually great. And Max Crosby's revitalized and the relationship is repaired. Because wasn't it like they knew his knee was hurt and they wanted to tank from Endosa.

So they benched him. Which like now look in retrospect is not that big of a fucking deal. And I know Max Crosby wants to play every snap and that's awesome. But maybe now the Raiders are going to be good. All it takes is the Raiders being like two and one.

And the team looks good and Endosa looks all right.

And Max Crosby has two sacks in the first three games.

And I feel like the vibes are high again. Absolutely. I mean the the upgrades they made to their front seven like Quay Walker and a Kobe Dean two monster deals. It's like the best linebackers they've had in terms of investment in a very long time. They've recind Malcolm Coans.

They've recind Eric Stokes. They traded for Terran Johnson. They promoted the defensive line coach who Crosby loves to defensive coordinator. They're moving to a three four. They invested in a lender bomb.

Kobe act a problem with Max Crosby was not with Mark Davis or any of the seven previous coaches. It was like why do we have like seven coaches less like eight years. And other problems have been with Tom Brady Guerrero. That stuff coming out. I think that Kubiac being there.

The investment that they've made. There's a long-term plan in play. And at the end of the day before the Ravens trade. There was no evidence that the Raiders have done right by him or like under their word. But they legitimately did.

They traded for two first. They kept us on the quiet since December. Like they did everything right by him. And at this point. Raider for life.

I think that makes the most sense. And quietly even if all that shit is bullshit. You have to say that. So it's treat by yourself.

“So like I feel like you have to hold face and try and do that anyway.”

We don't we don't know what Alex Guerrero's medical assessment of Max Cross. We look like I'm waiting for that. I'm waiting for that question to come out. Did he pass Alex Guerrero's physical?

That would be amazing if the Ravens are able to know that.

It's like what the fuck did Alex do in here? It's Guerrero sends a tweezer. He wouldn't have passed my physical either for what it's worth. Like get crossbeats and strawberries. I don't know how to hear.

Yeah, if they so if they do hang on to them. The other thing that I think is interesting here is. Just adding on to the layers of this whole Raider saga. This all season so far. There was a tweet from Diana Rossini that the Raiders are expected to show interest in Kirk

Cousins who becomes a free agent. Yeah. Perfect. And so like my thought is if the Raiders just hang on to crossbeats. There's nothing materializes before the first couple of weeks of the season.

And they go into the league and they start winning or they go into the season. And they start winning a few games or at least competing. I mean, then you're then you're really talking about potentially keeping him long. Because winning as we know winning cures all else. And obviously, you know, Max Cousins, the big part of the reason they fell out of.

You know, they fell out to the last season because the Raiders fucking sucked. And if they're actually good, you know, that that eliminates a lot of the issues that he has. The problem with the Raiders being actually good is that's been largely a fantasy for the last two decades. And you know, it's like kind of hope casting or wish casting. They still have real problems with the roster.

Like they need to add a nose tackle now that they're moving to a three four. The body receiver that's better than jackbash and deante Thorne. And they still have holes along the offensive line. Like they're still far away from being competitive. And they made this entire plan with thinking they were going to have two first.

The next year's draft and like all this cause we space like they have to like reset on the fly. I hope they pulled an all night or last night. I did. I hope the front office pulled an all nighter and got back on the horse here. Let's figure out this cousin sing a get back on track.

I think they've done the right. And the early narrative has been great in terms of like we're recommending the crossbeats. Crossbeats was first in the building. You know, it's all it's all there.

“I think, um, you know, they were recovering from an all time unprecedented.”

Might never ever see this again kind of thing happening them on day two of the whatever the tampering period is.

Like I think their response has been okay. It's the best you can ask for. And the cousins things make sense because again, I think they really might not play for Nandome and does a early Israeli maybe not the entire year. I think just more teams should do that having the option to let him get a game.

Also, I mean, I have the people's comp for him is literally cut cousins. I imagine them talk cousins. Yeah, personality. Yeah. I mean, DK, you're isn't your comp. I don't know, you have Russell. It's Flacco on the field, Russell the bike, but Craig Craig actually made a pretty compelling argument that it's actually cousins on the mic.

For sure. Yeah. Thank you, right? The other thing I think it's Ernest. He's so genuine and er, he's overly earnest.

He's Ernest Maxing. Russ is guarded. Yeah. And it does is himself. And I believe Kirk is as well an Ernest man in my runic world. Okay, the last thing here, I just wanted to hit before we move on to all these other crazy stories that happen. It's just how much better tray 100% actually.

How much better as Max grows with entry, Hendrickson? I think the short answer is probably just run defense.

I think Carl's like Hendrickson is just not as good at setting the edge.

He's not as physical as run defender. Max Carl's was not just getting sacks, but getting tackles for loss. Hendrickson's getting sacks, but on a Bengals team that's growing the ball has no defense.

And so he's kind of just always, you know,

frankly, Hendrickson's team is playing with the lead. Probably easier more sacks and the raiders are kind of more like behind it. It's harder for cosmic sacks, but he's way better run defender.

“It's weird that even on Friday, and this is the thing with, I think some people like conspiracy ravens did this.”

It's really weird that even on Friday night, the ravens were like, "We'll just trade two first for Max Carl's being said a sign to Trey Hendrickson." And then three days later, they had the post clarity of just the, "What if we just sign Trey Hendrickson and kept the picks?" It's weird that even four days ago that didn't occur to them.

Man, nobody signed Trey Hendrickson yet? I mean, Max Carl's being not two first rom picks better than Trey Hendrickson. Let's just do that. The reports were that Hendrickson wanted like 30 mill or even bigger than 30 mill. And I think what they found after like everyone kind of like watered down some of the Trey Hendrickson market on day ones.

Like wait, we could get him for like the same amount of money we're paying Max Carl's be and get our two first rom picks back. That came up in the physical x-rays. It like set on the side, like wait, and they're like starting to stack it up. Because that's the thing. They're saying that this wasn't worth it.

Now you're measuring what Hendrickson, you can get for Hendrickson. That's like the whole part of the Trey Hendrickson period being kind of like, I think this takes a big baseball bat to the Trey Hendrickson period in general. Because if it leads to mistakes like this or like awkwardness like this, I do think ultimately it's just better starting for the agency on Monday.

Like I think a lot of this is kind of like looking stupid from the NFL side.

It's not a good sign or strategy or branding decision that this window is called the Trey Hendrickson period. It's called legal tampering. Right, yeah. Maybe they could have changed that. It's like the purge.

It's like legal crime. Go tampering. 48 hours. So like what the fuck? I feel you want to eat tampering.

Adam's shifter. Adam's shifter hates it.

“Adam's shift to reds against this every year.”

It's like what are we doing? Why don't we call this legal tampering? He's like the NFL pretends the free agency starts at four on Wednesday, and ends at four on Wednesday. So by the way real quick,

we started this out as a fantasy court. If this was in a fantasy league, we would kick this GM out of the league. Oh God. Thank God for justice.

I'm glad there's no justice in today's world. You're out. The commissioner in a family would be like, you're doing this trade. Don't try to bullshit.

Like the the position would come back to the group chat be like, Hey, I looked at the x-rays. I don't know. You really shut the fuck up. He's like, oh, I could get a guy off waivers for the same.

Actually, I don't want to do this trade. Kick him off the tour, Doug. He's not bragging any rules. Craig. I want to go step further.

I want Netflix Warner Bros with this. I want to break up fee. I want to start a break up fee. I want to start a break up fee. I want to start a break up fee.

Where's where's the break up fee? Is that in play? Yeah, give me a fourth. It's a bit of a tough space for it.

“If the Eagles shook down Arizona for a third round pick to make the Jonathan Gannon tampering stuff go away after the Eagles won this or loss of Superl and Arizona and then the Arizona took Jonathan Gannon.”

Honestly,

the ravens should have to do the Netflix $3 billion break up.

There should be something. There need to be repercussions. Be honest with me. I'm just hoping that we can cross because. Yeah, shake hands.

Make make it go away. So in this scenario, Mark Davis is Ted Cerando's. Who's Brady? Max Crosby is Warner Bros. And Max Crosby's Warner Bros.

And Eric to cost his David Ells in a pair of mountains. I don't know. I don't know. The cost is Ted Cerando's. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's just driving the price up. Yeah, but Ted Cerando's got the break up fee. Yeah. We'll look on it. We'll look on it.

Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm getting lost. And actually, there's people on this show produced it. Interesting.

It's not a wonder one comparison here. Maybe it doesn't. So the raiders are getting $31 a share. I don't really know. Austin, thank you for joining us.

I'm genuinely sorry. Yeah. There's how much you can do. It's another day in the life of a raiders fan. There's a good karma.

Good karma coming your way. Talk about your cash in to some playoff wins. Go, go, go, go, go. Look at Fernando Mendoza's LinkedIn. And Fernando Mendoza's going to be hyped to play with Max Crosby.

Just keep that in mind. Fernando Mendoza's in Crosby. You're going to have a conversation. And it'll go on Crosby's pod. And that's going to be funny.

Huge, huge. Awesome. Thank you for joining us. So the raiders will get the break up fee. Making them Netflix.

Warner Brothers. I guess the issue is that there's three parties. Why can't we figure this out? Because it would have made like the ravens overpaid for Max Crosby. That is what Paramount did for Warner Brothers.

So that works. It's the re-negging that messes things up. But it's fine. Are the raiders? Fine.

The raiders deserve the break up fee. Because they got shafted. Got it. But Netflix didn't get shafted as the thing. They just play their hand well.

I don't know. So they're the ravens. Netflix and Paris. I don't know. Anyway, yeah.

So watch our show on Netflix.

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Watch it on Netflix.

“Or don't watch when you leave your house.”

Turn it on and let it play for your pets.

Or if you don't have any pets. Do the simple thing where he just has the little drop or thing. Continue to refresh refresh. Yes. People will know what I'm talking about.

Great. Do you know what he's talking about? I don't. But it's alright. We have other football stuff, but I'm going to make 100% honest.

I know we're a football show. But I thought it would be disingenuous to talk with the New York Jets before we talk about an NBA player or score any three points. I kind of wanted to just do it now. Somehow Gina Smith is back on the Jets 11 years after he was punched in the face

and broke his jaw and lost his starting job as a Jets quarterback. What's dreamer are the Jets? To be peacock? I don't know. I don't know.

Mooby Pluto. Pluto. What's ridiculous is those are all real? It's like Madness. Pluto to be Mooby are all real.

Mooby and two. Watch us at Mooby and two. Don't watch us at Mooby and two. Don't watch us at Mooby and two. Yeah.

Football. I don't understand. No. I don't understand. I don't understand.

They're like the saints.

“I don't know how they keep paying for these things.”

But yeah. So the Raiders traded Gina Smith to the Jets for basically a pick swap. The Raiders moved up 20 spots in the seventh round. Congratulations. And the Jets get Gina Smith.

They're paying them like 3 million bucks instead of 1 million.

Just to paying him a 2 million extra so that Gina Smith didn't go to free agency and get the opportunity to turn down the Jets. I don't even know where to start. But I just think this is bizarre. The reunion?

No one wanted to see. This is the ultimate beggars can't be chooses. Gina Smith choosing to be an adult to bat at me. I'm excited for this opportunity. But there's no way Gina wanted me in the Jets unless he had no choices.

There's no way the Jets wanted Gina unless they had no other choices. It was probably Gina when they'd freaking bring in Derek Carter at the time. And they're like, all right, you know what? We're probably all we can do. I forgot that this eliminates the Derek Carter element.

Oh, damn it. Oh, well. See him. Yeah, this is bizarre. This it's been a tough year for Gina and Gina stands like me because I still think he's good.

You want the Super Bowl because you've got rid of Gina. Okay. Good point. I'm half year. I'll take it.

I'll take it. I'll take it. But still, I do think Gina is better generally than what he was last year. I don't know how much better he's going to be on the Jets. I don't know if the situation is altogether that much better.

But hopefully, you know, he can at least salvage a little bit of his reputation this year and give the Jets a chance to compete. I know our our co-worker/boss Sean Fennasy all in on this, which I absolutely love. I know I could tell if that was sarcastic. Sean tweeted. He's a lifelong Jets next fan.

He said, league minimum, huge win for the Garrett Wilson true believers. Gina, behind a good offensive line with Mason Taylor Breeze Hall and a young white receiver too, is kind of cool. And then Bill Quilt retweeted it and said that somebody has hacked Sean's account. Because like a month ago, Sean was like, I'm just taking this season off as a Jets fan. I have done.

You know what they say?

Like your boss only sees you as the first job you had at the company.

Unfortunately for Gina, him going back into a Jets uniform, almost wipes away everything he's done after the Jets. Like I immediately feel like it's not going to work again. Him just putting on the Jets helmet. We talked about how the Jets need new uniforms.

They especially need them now. I can't see Gina in a Jets helmet and expect it to work. I don't care how good the offense is lying. Can the quarterback just wear a different uniform? Who's a cool team that we believe in?

The chargers. They're not cool. That's for you. Okay. They're the latchers.

The bills. Sure. If the yet. That's new. But yeah, sure.

The bills are like had. I mean, that's new. Bill's been good for six hours. Oh, what do you mean, like historically good? No, it's been really, really cool.

What are the blue blood coolty? Like the Niners? If the cheese. Sure.

“Had our men remember the first one pick it right tackle.”

And then they had signs, you know, they have where they guess the lost John Simpson. But then they have Garrett Wilson. And they have Breeze Hall. Yeah. 80 Mitchell.

Yeah. They're going to throw to see her. Then they bring in Gina Smith. And it was one year ago when we still like Gina Smith. And this was one year ago.

And they just didn't wear the Jets uniforms. Would we be like, oh, yeah, I like this. This is smart. Yeah. And they're like, you're going to top three pick in the draft.

Get some great adressure. Yeah, probably. Absolutely. But here's the deal. They are the Jets.

Yeah. Yeah. It is actually pretty crazy. Gino's career on the Jets and after dude on the jets. He went 12 12 and 19.

He threw 28 touchdowns. 36 interceptions and 17 fumbles. And he got punched in the face because he owed a special team. His luckers. 600 dollars.

It took him then six years to to throw for double digit passing touchdowns again, which is pretty crazy. Six seasons before he threw for double digit passing touchdowns again. And now he's back on the jets. I was trying to find other examples of guys quarterbacks who were drafted by a team.

Left and came back and it worked out.

The only one I could frantar content that happened a long time ago in Minnesota. He left because him and the coach didn't get along. And then he left and came back and ended up winning an MVP in the 70s for Minnesota.

“Outside of that, I think it's Nick Folls who was drafted by Philly.”

It didn't work out with Chip Kelly. He left came back and obviously won a Super Bowl. He was a third round pick. But this is incredibly rare that a quarterback crashes and burns on a team. Leaves to have a life and then comes back and it works out.

Do jets fans like you know after what happened after every. I'm sure I'm sure. Sean does Sean. So glad to ask. Okay.

Do jets fans like you know Smith? Well, when he left. No. Since you know Smith played. It's Sam block posted this, uh, I, this list staggered me.

So Gina Smith since then the jet starting quarterbacks have started. Matt Sims, Michael Vick, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Bryce Petty, who I forgot existed. Josh McCown, Sam Darnell, Trevor Sammy Luke Falk. Joe Flacco, Zach Wilson, Mike White, Josh Johnson. Chris Strevler, who is in the XFL and the CFL.

Aaron Rogers, Tim Boyle, Terod Taylor, Justin Fields, Brady Cook. And now back to Gino Smith. And so yeah, he's better than all those people. 18 quarterbacks between Gino's. And it's like getting back together with your high school girlfriend when you're like in your late 30's.

Yeah, it's like they made it in a group like if we're both single at 35 will go. Yeah. That's really a marriage back. Like wow. And then you get there.

That's true. They're like, you know what? We couldn't find it any one better. Let's look at this thing. It'll save us something to say.

They run into each other at the local grocery store. How you been? I've been better. So good.

“Because I noticed I think a lot of jets fans.”

Maybe this is just a few anecdotal or whatever. But I did see a lot of jets fans seem genuinely happy for Donald when he had his success. So I'm wondering if if there's something similar happening here.

I think I mean, I think what's incredible, too, if you just look back is how many guys played so much better later after leaving the jet.

Sam Donald obviously is like the ultimate example probably in NFL history now. But then Gina Smith also was, Gina Smith had 70% completion left for years. Good. Gina Smith was incredible for the COX a few years ago. But even guys like Joe Flacco played two different stints with the jets.

And then played so much better on even fucking Cleveland. Joe, you know what? And embarrassing that is to leave the jets to go to Cleveland and you're better quarterback for them. So I the bet. Yeah.

It just does where the guy's left to go. What do we think of this? Like Frank Reich is the offensive coordinator. I think the jet line is pretty good. I don't know.

I think the jets are going to the number one pick or top five pick. That's hard. So it's hard. No, this is not going to work because here's why. I put in my notes at the top of my jets notes for next season to not have the amnesia.

The jets fired their, quote, a third of their coaching staff two and a half almost three weeks after the season ended. They dumped eight coaches. It's like a third of their staff. Decordator. Like the line line backers secondary quarterbacks coach OC two and a half weeks after the season.

That is the dumbest thing like there's no good explanation for that in my opinion. And that to me just signifies how fragile the jet season is and how quickly the moment there's adversity. The head airing lens going to get dumped and all the free agent stuff they've done. They brought in a lot of free agents, but I just, I don't know. It's so desperate.

Everything the jets have done.

“Can you remember a time when Sean was optimistic about the jets?”

Not since I've worked. It's Sam Donald, the fantasy was very excited for Dar.

I was there when Dar and I was drafted because never wrong only early, you know, on that one.

Um, I don't know, maybe there's something here. Maybe Sean, maybe Sean's like the bell weather for the jet success here and maybe this will turn into something. I don't know. Well, they did spend a lot of money in for agency. I think we're looking at a classic 20 touchdown 20 pixies in Fragile.

And I think we're looking at a classic 20 touchdown 20 pixies in Fragile. The, the other big move here is the Coltsign Daniel Jones for two years and $88 million. Uh, could be up to $100 million in the sentence. We'll see. But overall, so that Colts had for a transition tag Daniel Jones for like $38 million basically.

And the deal was if the another team wants to negotiate with you, the Colts could match the offer. But no one's going to because Dana Jones towards Achilles. Uh, it's interesting. Also that tearing your Achilles these days doesn't really cost you money. It just cost you a third year in your contracts.

So guaranteed money down the line. But the idea that if Daniel Jones had not gotten hurt, he probably get 50, 50 million a year, 54 million, whatever.

And he tears as Achilles and he loses 7 million a year on the day.

I'm like, that's pretty good. I guess he loses the third year guarantees. It's good for Jones. But a two year deal for $88 million. So $44 million a year.

I don't know what to make of this. I think it's weird. And I just continue to believe between this and paying Alec Pierce 29 million does a year. I kind of still just feel it's so strange how desperate the Colts are to keep together. This team that went eight and two for two and a half months stretch.

I know.

I just keep asking myself and asking you guys and asking random people walking by in the grocery store. Who are they negotiating against? Who is trying to sign Daniel Jones right now? That is the right question. Who are they negotiating against?

Because they could have just had him on the transition tech for 37 million. What? I understand like trying to lock him up before he comes back and does well. But there's also a very strong chance that he does not do that. And the entire point of the transition tech is that they believe nobody else would be making an offer for it.

Right.

Here's what I'm surprised with this concept.

Don't get it. I agree. Here's what I don't get about this deal. So I think the short answers. I don't think they're negotiating against anyone.

They're negotiating against the franchise tech. The same thing that happened with Daniel Jones to the Giants. And what Kirk cousins has done is what happens is without going too deep in the franchise. But reminding me it's just like a one year deal sticker you can be applied. But also you don't want to let a quarterback go to free agencies.

So the quarterback can use it as a weapon. Doc Prescott's done this with Dallas. Let's say Daniel Jones came back next year and played great. And you just had him on the tag.

“He comes back and you have to franchise tag him.”

Right.

That number would probably be like next year like 52 million dollars because it's the top five average.

So it's 52 million. This deal, the simplest version of it. It's just this year's tag and extra tag together. It's two years. It's 90 million 88.

What if you're going to call it's kind of like 52 if you had a tag him. 36 what I don't understand. Is why don't the cults get a third year if you're going to do it. What I don't you don't I mean it's it's weird to me that the what the whole point of you get the security issue might just look at a third year. If he's good you keep him if he's not good you can cut him.

And I think what this is the cult this isn't a weird way. Daniel Jones kind of having his cake and eating it to because if he comes back and he's bad. It gets re injured. He actually still gets an extra 40 million for twenty twenty seven. But if Daniel Jones comes back and it's great.

He only has to play one year this year and then he gets to renegotiate again next year because the cults can't let him go to a contract here. So. Yeah. This is exactly exactly why I'm like I don't understand why they did this. I guess to to do right by him, but.

Well, I don't they're kind of having them in a contract here again because next year basically the starting point for this year's negotiations is like. 37. I think this is how you got to the number. Does it lower their cap a little bit this year? Yes, good point.

That's definitely part of the reason I guess it's 38 million if you carry it this year, but now you can push it later. Right, but the.

Basically the starting point 38 million this year and they're like what if you tag against again it's 50 me this roughly halfway it becomes 44 million year.

“But if next year they have to tag them now you're starting at 52 53's the base and you have to pay him like 56.”

But overall the larger point is. They seem to think Daniel Jones is going to start for Indianapolis in a week one, which I hope is rehab goes well. That's the reports that are coming out today as they think he'll start. Daniel Jones has never been healthy. Senator Baltimore, see if they agree.

Yeah. Yeah, we're the rate of the radicals. Yeah. Can he walk I just Daniel Jones has had its spinal injuries at 20 C.L. A tourniquilies, a broken leg, multiple high ankle spraines, a neck injury that lasted for three years with New York.

It's just the tremendous show of faith that he can play better and also he's a mobile quarterback coming off in the killings injury. Generally curious how good he can be for Indianapolis if he doesn't have the mobility. I mean, how could he have the mobility this year? Yeah, I get maybe it's a cap thing and they wanted to defer money to the next year. But I just thought why wouldn't you just stick with the one year transition tags see how he plays and then go from there.

We're get the more years on the deal. Well, this is kind of no man's land it's like at least have, but I get I don't know it's also you're keeping out peers. So we'll see, but I just I mean, I hope the culture good, but it just feels like. If I told you if I gave you two options. The culture past, decased or with you, but I want both of you to answer this.

If the culture pass the Texans and the Jaguars and win the AFC South next year and are like definitely better than them. Or the Jaguars and Texans are obviously better than the Colts. Finn it make the playoffs and then the Titans are even better than the Colts and the Colts come in last place. What do you think is a more likely next year? I don't think they're going to come in last.

I would say the latter is more likely.

“I agree. I think the Colts are more likely to be worse than the Titans than be better than the Giants.”

But the Colts are third and division odds right now. The other the other big news. This doesn't happen yet. I don't really care. But we're going to talk about it like it's going to happen. And if we're wrong, you can just laugh at us. But we might as well just talk about like, if this is the Viking Sign Kyler Murray because I think it's going to happen.

I mean, if you just told him the hoarding is pointing, it's all going to look. The Browns are going to play to Sean Watson and Shitter Sanders. I'll can sign to it to play with Michael Panics Jr. The Cardinals have Gardner, and then she's signed to play. Basically, behind the Kobe Reset, the Dolphins have Malik Willis, and the Raiders are going to do Fernando. They're going to have Draft for Nano and does behind Kirk Cousins.

So that unless the Steelers swoop in here with Kyler Murray or something, I don't see coming. It seems like the Vikings are going to sign Kyler Murray. And it's probably going to be for the $1.3 million DK. Do you think this is going to work? And by work, I mean, the Minnesota makes the playoffs.

So it looks like a good team and Kyler looks reviewed with Minnesota. Oh, I say yes.

I'm more yes than no on that.

You say and make the playoffs. That's a tough division. But I do think there's lines backwards. I do think that they're going to be a lot better than they were last year. I mean, how bad was Jason McCarthy?

My God. Pretty cool.

“I think like I think we have done a little bit of”

changing the narrative about Kyler based on what happened this last year and how they benched him and moved on. I do think he's better than people are kind of like painting him to be I guess. But I still have a lot of faith in Kevin O'Connell. I still have a lot of faith obviously in the skill weapons skill position players that they have there. JJ just Jefferson.

Hawkinson's sticking around. Addison is there. They just they just reopt Aaron Jones to stay in for another year. So like their run game theoretically should still have guys there. I don't know.

I do think that they'll be good. And I think Kyler it's going to be a very different looking offense. But I still believe generally in what Kevin O'Connell's going to draw for them. I do think the kind of the Darnal thing has made this type of move now. The like philosophy disjure of like, oh, the talented guy.

Reclamation project on the right team can work. But I do think Kyler is clearly this year's Darnal. And I mean, we've met a sort of one nine games last year. They weren't three and 14. They were nine and eight with JJ McCarthy and Carson Wenson Max Brosmer.

And like if you're telling me Kyler Murray's not two games better than JJ McCarthy. Like I have to believe I think Kyler Murray immediately becomes a fascinating fantasy option. If going into the season in the same way we talked about like just because of the legs of Justin Fields. We felt like he was a top seven pick. I mean Kyler Murray in in Minnesota with Justin Jefferson with Kevin O'Connell in a dome.

Kyler was already a guy who was like a fringe top seven top 10 fantasy pick on the Cardinals when they were floundering. And they did start pretty hot a couple seasons that we chose to ignore. Like the Cardinals started 11-0 and 11-0.

They were always like seven or two when they floundered out.

Yeah. But in that's part of it's a mobile quarterback. He's a smaller guy. You know, that's the season goes on. He takes hits.

It gets weird and Terry's older now. Like we've talked about all this like he's too short to see over the years. He got hurt too. He had an AC manager. Yes.

Kyler's bit. Yeah. He has an AC L. He said he didn't really think his name was even back really until last year. 400 percent.

The difference to me is very simple. When Kyler Murray is making 50 million a year, you judge him one way. Kyler Murray if he makes for one million years completely different. As a percentage of cap. That's wild.

Kyler Murray is literally 60, 60 or 60 times more expensive as a percentage. To Arizona's salary cap than he like a couple years ago. Then he will be to Minnesota this. I mean, he will be making less than 1% of the cap.

A third because the cap's $300 million.

Point three percent of the cap. Yes. He has a third of one percent. The number of the euro pick who's in his 20s will be 0.3% of the cap. And when he was on Arizona making 50 million a year when the cap was 200 million.

Right. He was one quarter. So I'm not exaggerating. It used to be 20. And not really the cap it was that.

But the cap it for Kyler used to be more like 10 to 15 percent. A sixth. Now he's a third of a percent. Yeah. So he's 30, 45 times whatever cheaper.

And that is where you're like, yeah, I don't care. I don't care about the body language. I don't care.

“Like, let you just roll the dice and you just be like, you know what?”

That's a lot of money to save. You do a pays for Justin Jefferson. It pays for career. You Christian Dara saw it pays for all these defenders you want. And also you give Kyler the opportunity because Arizona's just as bad

of a franchise as the jets or the browns or all these teams. But no one gives a shit because they're a great weather and it's a fun city. And no one cares. But I do think Minnesota's going to have to change the offense though. And I'm curious who you think D.K.

But I do think Kevin O'Connell. This isn't like a Kyler Murray. He's a, oh, he'll do a shit and thing. And it'll do an underset or drop back. Like Kyler Murray needs to be in shotgun.

And the Minnesota's going to have to change how they play. Yeah. But I think this is not every coaches capable of doing that will change our system to what the players do best. Everyone says they want to do it.

No one actually is people aren't always capable of it.

I think Kevin O'Connell does have to change what the Vikings do. To fit Kyler specifically like quicker stuff. More stuff to the outside. Let's crossers over the middle depending on Kyler to see over his guards. Consistently playing rhythm over the middle.

“But I think it's on equivocally worth it.”

And this is definitely Minnesota's best shot to compete in a very difficult division. Yes. It's like crazy that this is sort of falling into their laps on this. I'm surprised there wasn't more competition for it. You know, it, it, it feels a little bit like last year where

I don't remember the exact timeline, but there was like a four or five day period where the seahawks had traded away Gino and didn't have a quarterback. And, but they had already done like a handshake deal that it was going to be Darnell. This is kind of how it feels for me like this is Kyler's hand pick destination.

He wants to go play with O'Connell. And again, this is all assuming this actually does happen. If it doesn't happen, we can delete this whole thing. But it does feel like such a good situation for the Vikings. Almost like a perfect situation considering their other options right now.

Which is stick with JJ McCarthy who's clearly not ready.

Go and grab a guy like Anthony Richardson who is also a massive project. And maybe not ready. Probably not ready. Yeah.

Or grab this veteran guy for a million dollars.

Who is the first overall pick in the draft? Yeah. I mean, it's not a one-to-one comparison at all. But my mind immediately jumped to the Maverick's trading away. Luke Uden and getting the first overall pick in the draft.

I'm like, they literally let Sam Darnell go.

“And now Kyler Murray walked in and is like, "Hey, what's up?”

I only cost a million dollars." So I'm the first overall pick. And they're like, "Great, come on in." Yeah. Speaking of rolling the dice though, all these quarterback pieces are falling.

What are the Steelers going to do if Aaron Rogers decides to retire? He's, this is why he's like sticking around and not doing anything. The Steelers are, once again, Steelers are once again trying to win now. They signed a 28 year old Michael Pittman. They have 29 year old Jamel Dean.

They were Cam Hayward, they are fully trying to win right now. And if Aaron Rogers decides to not play football anymore, Are they going to go get Anthony Richardson? Are they going to go play with Mason Rudolph and will Howard? What the fuck's going to happen?

Adam Shuffter said this morning that, and he seemed very confident. Rogers was planning Kirk Cousins' plan B. Okay, well Kirk looks like he's going to Vegas, no? Well, here's my guess with Aaron Rogers. And this is sounds a little insane.

I think Aaron Rogers has told him privately he'll probably be coming back. Yeah. Yeah, Aaron Rogers. This is last year. It's the same as last year.

Aaron Rogers, if you'll remember. There's, yeah, the bread for him used to skip training camp. Yeah. He's he didn't want to climb in on like a private chat two days before the season. Because he didn't want to do it.

Because they made a run. They basically quarterbacks run during practice. And he didn't want to do it as too hard. Aaron Rogers version of that. And I'm serious is he got bullied so much by the New York media

for skipping OTAs to film his Netflix dog. To go to the pyramids about how we built the pyramids. Which is available on Netflix. Great programming. Put it on Netflix.

It's called a nigma. I watched two of the first three. Amazing. And he was so upset with how he was treated for skipping OTAs.

That the timing last year, you will never convince me otherwise.

That Aaron Rogers announced the timing of sound to Steelers. Because he didn't want to go to OTAs to the Steelers again. And he didn't want to be criticized for skipping OTAs. So it was very much sure reaction to this was I won't even sign until after OTAs. So no one can even ask me if I'm there.

I'll skip them by not even signing up. I think he's doing it again. He's going to play. We talked about them.

“But what did we talk about at the beginning of the year?”

There was issues getting on the same page with those receivers and getting off. Yes. And I'm like, oh my god. They've showed to the fucking maybe he should have gone to OTAs. No, no, he'll fly him out to Malbo, they'll practice on California.

He hit me and DK. And they're other one. Severs who are, I don't know they're maybe named. Yeah. The OTA thing drives me up a wall because I get why veteran quarterbacks don't want to go.

Because it's kind of like if you're a high school, you're like a college senior, whatever, going to a syllabus week or whatever. You're like, I know this shit. Like if the receivers are learning the name of the fucking plays and these things that you're like, you can't even begin to talk to me until you've been here for weeks.

And I get that you don't want me to be there for the 101. All you need to know is this. Tom Brady didn't miss OTAs until his 20th season. Patrick, we're home still go to OTAs. That is, I believe, one third of the Super Bowl representatives.

So they have seen our entire lives. Is Tom Brady in my homes. If they go, why the fuck are you there? And you know why? It's not about the place.

My home says it's about getting into the guys. It's about trust. It's getting into though them. Also, this is a, it's not my home. Who's been on the cheese for 10 years.

This is a new set. This is a new coach coordinator to place. Everything's new even though he's been with McCarthy before. It's like, it's new. He's a new receiver.

Like, you know. Also, Omar Khan in Indianapolis when we were there said. Technically to my face that we're going to find out much earlier this time. We're not going to let this drag out. So now if it does drag out, that's just such a weak look from Omar Khan.

Who's basically like, yeah, Aaron Rogers has us by the balls.

“If they genuinely stealers genuinely didn't know, I think they would have done something.”

Unless they're actually delusional enough to think that will Howard can compete. Which you can't roll out. Like, well, Howard.

I, I, six round pick is never had as much confidence from it.

The Pittsburgh loves well, Howard. Well, Howard wasn't even the good at Ohio State. He was good in the playoffs. He was good in the playoffs. Um, please.

He was just great in the playoffs. Yeah, how many first round picks was on the goddamn team? All, all I'm saying is he played quarterback. All I'm saying is he played quarterback well in the playoffs. You cannot dispute that.

The cops. Sure. And then it's so well. He moved from the seventh round to the sixth round. Sure.

Yeah. Sure. I, I, I just, if the, this, maybe I'm wrong. I maybe I'm giving students too much credit. I'm saying if they did not privately, they hired Mike McCarthy.

You coached your Rogers for like 10 years. Like, I'm just saying. I'm tired of giving the Steelers credit. They got it fucking last. On the fucking, I don't know.

They don't know. They don't know. They don't know. And they actually don't know. What I think is, I think it's the same thing as last year.

Again, the fact that Omar, we'll see.

I, it's only March 11th. We'll see. But the very little more con was like, one thing I can tell you about this year. It's not going to drag out like it did last year. If that happens again, that will tell me that the Steelers actually don't have a great plan.

And that once again, it's all up to Rogers. I believe. But I, I, I, I would like to agree with you, I fits. That they know exactly what's going to happen. But maybe I'm giving too much credit.

Uh, we'll see.

“I still, these are the, the remaining open chairs in this game of musical chairs for quarterbacks, right?”

Like, what? Anyone else out there still? I mean, I, I would just be stunned if the Browns were not going to, like, this Browns have Shidorah Sanders who wasn't, I believe Jimmy has on the owner wanted Shidorah Sanders.

And then to show him Watson who's getting $46 million.

I don't think the Browns are going to bring in more money. Quarterback to have a third quarterback there because one of those guys wouldn't get reps. Other than that, the Saints, I mean, we go through the teams. It's like, bucks of Baker Saints have shook. Bright Carolina, as two, seen too much for Bryce Young.

Falcons have pennies into a cardinals. They signed guard. I mean, I mean, maybe the cardinals, but I'm like, I think the cardinals want for set. And guard them in shoot to tank. Come, come off to where they see them.

Rans 49 is Cux. Do not need quarterbacks. Raiders do not need a quarterback if they signed Kirk. Herbert to the charges. My home's to the cheese.

Broncos of Bonesix. Unless the trumpet's going to bail on Bonesix. And then it's like the AFC South. They just, literally, all those teams have a number two quarter, like, a first or second overall pick a quarterback in the Coltsign Daneal Jones.

They have seen North as Lamar, Joe Barrow, and then the Browns and Steelers. AFC says, Josh, the Dolphin just signed Willis. The Patriots have Drake, man.

“The jets are traded for Gino. So yeah, I think, and then it's a Browns.”

It's a Browns. And then Browns, the Steelers, they're like, talking about the Steelers Vikings. We got to get Derek Carter the Browns. Maybe Eagle Premium competition. Do you know why would he come out of retirement for that?

I'm trying to get the single most depressing thing possible. I want to talk.

I want to hit Banning the 83 in the World Baseball Classic with first.

The NFL's considering adding a game once the night before Thanksgiving. Craig, I've said for a long time. That sometimes we had too many NFL games and you're like, "Flock, and I'm like, you know what? People like the NFL.

I'll admit, this is too far." Oh, finally. This is like, look, our show is about the NFL. We probably should want more NFL. Yeah.

But here's where I draw the line. Unless they're literally on Australia for timezone purposes, I do think that it's not like Christmas day. It's over the line. Like adding an NFL game on Wednesday,

which means more teams have to play on the previous Saturday. I think that's too much. I think that they're fucking... What? A chapter tweeted about it.

We make it up names for days. He called it Thanksgiving Eve. No one fucking calls it that. It's like fucking, I don't know. It used to be Father's Day.

I think it's ridiculous. Thanksgiving Eve. Okay. When you go out in your hometown and see all your friends from high school. And everybody gets Jammer.

“I think they're watering down the product.”

And there's too many games on too many nights. And this will be if this happens. And there's a game on Thanksgiving Eve. There will be seven games in nine nights. Which I think is personally ridiculous.

We will have a game the day before Thanksgiving. Three games on Thanksgiving. A black Friday game and then games Sunday and Monday. It's... It's Sunday.

Then Monday, a full Sunday. Then Monday and a football. Wednesday night football. Three on Thursday. Black Friday.

Yeah. Three on Saturday probably. And then Sunday. So yeah. Seven in nine or eight.

Like there's no Saturday games around Thanksgiving. Well, they might do it the week after. They'll have to put the thing week after. When's the teams on Saturday? I forget they don't make me do the math in March for the games.

But they're going to have to do the Saturdays. I just... I don't know. And look, I'm fully where I tweeted about it. A lot of people commented.

Half agreed with me and half thought. I was dumb and that more football equals thumbs up. And I get that because this is a job as much as it is fun for us. So it changes things a little bit. But I really feel like I would...

I would think this way even if I didn't have this job. The football is Sunday Monday and Thursdays. And now just every holiday. But I do think that... Is the delineation...

In your mentions, Craig. The people who likes spending time with their family and the people. Everyone who's divorced and single loves it. But also like 50. Setting a fantasy line up.

How much do you want to hang out with your wife or girlfriend?

That is the question that we first must ask.

Uh, yeah. So anyway, we have a lot of... We'll see if they actually do it too. Okay. We have to talk about the Miami Heat and BAM at a bio scoring 83 points in an NBA game.

And at one point, it was wild. It's very cool. Pasta's Kobe. Only pursue scored more points. The game is Will Chamberlain.

Also, I kind of a total sham that nobody in the NBA seems to respect. I think I heard that. Okay, that's a sham. You and your gents and people. The conspiracy.

I actually think the biggest winner from all this is Will Chamberlain. Because the idea that BAM could score 83 in an NBA game in 2026. Will Chamberlain is playing against part-time electricians.

The difference between what BAM did and what Will did is two extra baskets.

A quarter? I'm kind of like... No one's catching it at a 1962. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I was...

“Although possessions were way longer back then.”

Now it's like everyone's shooting so quickly. And there's also three point lines and stuff. But fair point. This is cool, objectively. I showed up to a wreck basketball league a game last night.

And I saw that BAM had 43 at half. And I was like, holy shit. 31 of the first quarter. Yes, set the Miami Heat Quarter record over LeBron. 83's crazy.

The only issue I have is that it's really 79. Because at the end of the game, the final two minutes. The Miami Heat players were deliberately fouling the Wizards players. After that they could get the ball back. So this BAM could score which is fucking lame.

Well, yeah. The whole thing though. And again, I tried to watch this live. And I got to tell you being in DC, it was impossible. Because it was blacked out and it was horrible.

But I then did go back and was able to watch it when it ended. I love that you can't watch local games in cities. It's impossible. You can't watch the Wizards play. And it was a shit.

It's anyway, but the BAM was incredible.

I mean, he was hitting me. He was amazing. Yes. But the BAM became, like guys have done this. Which is the weird uncomfortable.

The conversation is Joel and Beat of all people had 70 and three quarters. And they took him out. Clad 60 something in three quarters. Yeah. And so which is kind of cooler.

“But so BAM started chasing it, which I get it.”

That's fine. I totally understand chasing it and like going for the record. Because it is like immortality to some degree. The game just became like total sloped. The wizards are the tanking and beat.

We're not kind of tanking and beat it. It became a side show. It became like a yes. Harlem globe trotters performance. Because the wizards.

So he shot four in D.K. I don't know if you saw the boxboard. Bam shot 43 free throws D.K. Yes. I did 43.

The thing that stood out to me is he's he made 36 fucking free. It's insane. And so like the game. I was like, I thought it'd be better than the bronze.

Maybe the first half was cool to watch.

The second half was like in a bombination. And it because what happened was the wizards just started fouling him because to have a miss. Then Bam started just making all the free throws. So then the wizards started fouling other players.

So the wizards were actively trying to not let him score. Yes. So then they didn't want to put no in history. Then the heat started fouling the wizards back to extend possessions. Then I looked it up.

That's what happened. What happened? What's happening? What's happening?

“The fourth quarter to 100 is it's the same thing as the team was like, fuck this.”

He can't have 100. So they started fouling him. And he started making the free throws. And then they just got fouled off. And that is apparently I will take out to 100 too.

So I don't know. I don't know. I know that because no one saw that game. I'm sure it didn't happen. What was Kobe's game?

Like that. So Kobe. Bam that he were up 15. And half. Kobe was down 15.

And the game that he scored 81. They ended up winning by like 15. And the fourth quarter they pulled away. But it was a relatively close game. Also Kobe shot half the amount of free throws that banned it in the 81.

So three. Three throw it there. Kobe shot less than half as much as Bam when he put it. One of the best moments in the history of Twitter. Free the Elon Musk version was in Kobe just started to eat even though had to do a thread.

But like in 2013 Kobe just was like had an off day. He was watching NBA TV.

And he was like, I've never watched this game.

And he just started live tweeting it during the game. His own thoughts. And at one point he was like down 14. And I'm heating up at this point. I wouldn't have passed a kid.

He's done. And he just like has his running thoughts. Really watch it. It was actually incredible. That's great.

We could argue that Clay Thompson. What he did arguably the most impressive. The most impressive was that Craig somehow turned this into a war. Yeah. Craig turned it in the fucking plate.

Clay Thompson had 60 Bill with Jason Tatum. Clay Thompson had 60 points in 29 minutes. And then it was cool. It was on pace for a and an adventure because the team was fucking winning by a lot. He was on pace for a hundred.

He was on pace for a hundred. He was on pace for a hundred. On pace for a hundred and one quarter. Was that the one where he hit like 15 threes? No.

No. No. That was when he had. Well, you're talking about the game where he had 36 in a quarter. Well, more.

He had. How many dribbles did he have? He had like 12 dribbles. There's a lot of dribbles. Yeah.

The. It's cool that. To be. Bam is an awesome guy. Bam is very cool.

Bam is one of the Zaclobs. Now our ringer colleague has one of my favorites profiles of an athlete. It is. It is. Yeah.

Which I. If you don't know who Bam is, I recommend reading it. But one of the. They talk about Bam. And one of the best pre-draft interviews ever.

And that Bam had this line. And also he like basically he lived in a trailer with his mom. And just like he's very singularly focused and basketball. And they were like, so what do you like to do? Like do you like party?

Do you have any hobbies? And all his draft interviews in Bam every time was like, I like. He says, I do three things every day. I play basketball. Hang out with my mom and I take shits.

And he said this to everybody. Also.

What are the great names there we talk about?

Bam out of bio. Great name. Unbelievable name.

And when he first got to the NBA, he just lived in this giant Miami high rise.

And it just he bought an apartment for his mom. And he just lived one floor above his mom in this high. And it just he had the like what little little white dogs, the little. Be Sean. Sure.

For me a be John. He had a little. Sean. Be John Robinson. I know.

It's a. Bam's a cool guy. And that was. Yeah. It was nuts.

I mean for his size, what he was doing in that game yesterday was pretty remarkable. Just the this at the edges of it's very 2026 for it to become what it became. People would have done. Here's the thing though. Everyone's salty about it.

No one in the league wanted to give this any respect. Like the I was shocked how many NBA players wouldn't even pretend that it was cool. But yeah. My impression on line was that everyone would say, and this is bullshit. Well, yeah.

It is cool. I actually think a lot of the fouls if you watch were not bullshit on BAM. Like he was getting fouled pretty hard. And it's. And that was real.

“And he had his free throws, which you have to give it to him.”

The only thing I'm at about is the very end to get him from. I think it was 79 to 83 was like, OK. This isn't actual. But. But.

They were up 30. And they were. Don't live on the foul and watch it. I don't know. Every team in the NBA would have done that.

That's the end. And that 90 seconds. They look a lot of records have that little tiny assures. I'm kind of dead inside now about points. It's like, oh, Kevin Booker had 65.

I'm like, OK. Well, it used to be. It's kind of like field goals where it's like, we used to cut live to a 60-yard field goal. They were four in the entire 20th century. And now it's like, there's like four week.

And at the age, when someone scored 50, someone scored 40, like, led sports better. And it's like the proliferation of that. And now it's like, it barely wredged. It barely hits the Richter scale.

So we did more teamwork. And if somebody does go crazy like BAM score 83, it's like pitchforks are out. It was illegitimate. Fuck you, fraudulent.

I'm going to pick this apart. Fuck. I will say, there is something a little bit.

“It feels selfish to have that kind of score your record.”

You know what I mean? You're like, OK, well, pass the fucking ball.

You throw one in the first quarter.

That's the first quarter. I'm just saying they won by like 20. But yeah, no, I know. I'm just saying that's there is something to that. Where it's different in the other sports.

And he is suck. Cannot stress about horrible. He had 43 field goal attempts and 43 free throw attempts. That's what did he shoot? How many of you make you the 36 free throws?

So he shot the ball 86 times. That's crazy. Like the ball left his hands 86 times. 83 points. Is that true?

83 points at 86 attempts? This is like, well, I'm counting each free throw attempt. They should. This is like Calvin. My six year old has he has basketball game tonight and going to his games.

It's like the kids just drill off the court and shoot it. Like there's no passing and stuff around the game. I will say it's funny. Wait, can I recommend this? Pull up whatever you're preferred at ESPN or whatever,

just the scoreboard and hit Tuesday. If you just crawl through the top performers, it's fucking crazy to see 83. Yeah. I'm like, it's just 83 points, nine rebounds.

Unbelievable to just see. Hundred is up. Hundred is up there with all time unbreakable records. Like Cal Rick and Junior games straight. Oh, I don't know.

I don't think so.

“I think Ripkin is way more unbreakable than a hundred.”

I think somebody can think so. Yeah. The way the game is now. I think people could break away. Seeing ban.

I think with everyone in the NBA said. Chris has presented this on four players. You're like honestly shocked. It was ban. Then thought it was an insult.

We like, no credit to him. But just like that's not got it kind of player. I agree.

First of all, his previous career high was 41.

He broke his gig. Broke his career high at halftime. Web and y'all could do this. Yeah. And also, I think there's a non zero chance.

Another team does 70 versus the wizard to this year. Or the jazz. Like he's seen also part of it said it was in Miami. I don't know when the wizard got to Miami. Whether the night before the night after.

But they were going to just party and they're excited to be 20 years old and rich in Miami. Like, that is not not part of it. Because I was also reading more about the world game. And the starting center that was playing against will was hung over. And they called it the flu.

But he didn't play because he had just been party. It's the same thing with his wizard team. How long were they in Miami? They were probably just excited to go to fucking live. Fair.

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Kleinepreise. Okay, speaking of the buckles. I got it. I can't. I've been waiting to talk to you guys about this all day.

We haven't talked to you about this. This is a story about this country. I can't believe this. But basically, if you haven't heard. The Americans are in the world baseball classic.

They rigged the entire tournament. And they have a lot of great players in Aaron Judge. All the stars are in the world baseball classic for the most part. They rigged it so that America could play Japan in the finals again. Because they want to tarnish the rigged it.

They rigged it. They rigged the field. And America somehow is almost going to blow it.

It's when they were recording this.

It might already be Thursday.

You might know it happened.

“But America somehow lost to Italy in baseball on Tuesday night.”

And that's bad enough. It was eight to one at one point. They lost eight to six. The manager of the USA team had no idea that the game mattered. No clue.

And like the amount of comments. The amount of like the wire like are you taking notes on a criminal conspiracy. The amount of things this man said publicly to indicate. He said our ticket was punched to the quarter finals. So it was in an interview before the game.

On M.O.B. TV, which they then took down when they lost the game. And he's like, well, that's not what I meant. They're varying the evidence. The amount of things this guy said, which where he said the boys were celebrating until the wee hours of the night.

The boys were buzzing. He said the boys were dragging us a little bit this morning. He was saying they were partying the locker room. And then we partied in the boss. Went back to the hotel.

He said we partied in the hotel. He's like, yeah, we got some guys dragging today. We're talking about offseason baseball. Hi, it's come on. What do you say?

I know. They asked about managing the game tonight. He said, we got to get some guys off their feet. And like, he was talking about, he's like, they rested all their guys.

“They, they don't, how did no one tell him this game matters?”

How did nobody tell him? How did no one know that? And on top of that, the runs matter for the point differential. So he didn't do so. We could go in all the subs.

He just got no fucking clue. Um, I don't, I don't, I don't, I'm not trying, I'm not trying to diminish. Italy's feet here in, in the term, in terms of historical upsets. I'm not trying to, like, be a wet blanket about this. But I actually looked at the, the Italian roster last night for the World Baseball Classic.

There's three players that were born in Italy on that team. Yeah, yeah. It's a lot of people with Italian heritage. I, I would be on that team. Right.

Like if Ireland made a team, I'd probably be on. Yeah. Um, so just saying that, I'm not diminishing anything. But there were three players from, uh, there was three players from Italy. Two players from Venezuela.

One in from Canada and then the rest are from the Jersey Shore. Uh, that's the, the New Jersey MLB players.

No, they're, they're, but they're all Americans basically.

Um, so I don't know, look, this story is hilarious. I don't know how much more you want to go into this actual loss. I want to talk about Cal Raleigh versus Randy Rosarita. Oh, we didn't want to try much of this. The World Baseball Classic has turned into musty TV.

It's sick. But did you see this? I did. But didn't need, there was an interview after nobody knows what happened. And if he was kidding or not.

No one can tell if they were, they were kidding or not. Yeah.

“I think what I've been able to kind of glean from this whole thing is they weren't kidding.”

But it's not as big of a deal as everyone's making out to be. So basically what happened is if you didn't see it, Cal Raleigh is a Mariners catcher. He was catching for the United States. Sixth. The big ask guy, big dumpers.

Yes, big dumpers catcher. Um, Randy Rosarita, who is also on the Mariners playing for Mexico. Um, and went up in an at bat, which apparently at you heard about afterwards. Like Randy was told that he's not going to shake your hand. Like this is an American team thing.

We're not shaking our teammates hands. We're doing like the Kobe versus Paul Gassal thing where we're getting really into this. This is exactly like Danny Rojas versus Zero or whatever on Ted Lasso. Where he's like, we're teammates in this other team. But when we're playing international ball, it's like fucking prison rules or whatever.

Um, so anyways, Randy Rosarita goes up to Cal Raleigh and tries to shake his hand.

Like, like, first of all, you never see my hand.

Like, batters don't go up to catchers and like shake their hand. Maybe the knuckle touch. Like, he probably would have knuckle touch. The hand shake is a lot. I think, yeah, but anyway, so in Cal Raleigh refused.

And apparently after like I think Rosarita said that he's like, he said nice to see you. Like, like, riff, use the shake his hand. And then Rosarita after the game was doing an interview. And he like, he's he did a much of it in Spanish. And it was basically like, look, there's some lost in translation here. But he basically told him to go fuck himself or go to hell.

Or depending on how you, you want to translate it. It's like, eat a day or something like that. He was like basically like, tell him to fuck off. It's been 10. Yeah, and I literally was going into like Reddit threads trying to figure out exactly what he had said meant in Spanish slang.

Okay. But anyways, it was like, go to hell. But very forcefully. So anyways, yeah, I love this. It's fucking hilarious.

Cal Raleigh came out today and said, like, he's like, that's my brother. We're, we're fine. This is nothing. We haven't heard yet from Rosarana. But man, I'm like all in on this.

I think it's hilarious. But also maybe a little concerning for my mirrors. Hopefully this doesn't create a rift. I love the world baseball classics fun. Yeah.

I feel like we are really peaking right now in international, like, just countries playing each other is working better now than ever. Yeah. Just like US Canada, hockey, world baseball. It's like, we're just, and as many sports as possible,

We just need to get countries to play one another.

Well, we're making the world cup a little different right now,

but otherwise I agree. Yeah. Sure.

“World cup, a little challenging, but no, the USA hockey thing.”

The, any jail with the League of Nations was brilliant. That was incredible. And then, yeah, the USA Mexico game was very intense. And then, yeah, hold on. I found, oh, the other part of the Rosarana thing you said was,

um, thank God that Cal Raleigh was a good parent. Since parents, very well educated. Thank God. I got to see him at the hotel two days ago.

They said, hello to me. It gave me a big hug. Oh, and that was the other part of the translation thing. Apparently he said they were very respectful. Not well.

Yeah, they said they were very respectful. He was like, your parents are great. Don't know what's wrong with you. Yeah. Well, to me, it just feels like he's saying this,

which is a little glint in his eye. I kind of agree. But yeah. And then he was like, I'm going to, I'm going to say something to him in Mexican Spanish, and then in Cuban Spanish,

and then he kind of walked off is pretty funny. Incredible. But yeah, I agree. Yeah, the world baseball classics been great. It's been very fun.

I know, I'm like, I'm going to watch it now.

“I mean, I'm going to tell you, I think until this year's World Series,”

we're last year's World Series, whatever you call it, that, which was probably one of the better World Series ever. I thought the best baseball I'd watched in a long time was a tonney pitching to close out the World Baseball Classic against like three MVP's in a row.

It was like, yeah. Bets and then Freeman and Mike Trow. And I'm like, this is crazy that the hitter is about to strike out three guys in a row when MVP's. Also, just the pandemonium of him in Japan is,

it's unbelievable. Did you see the video of, there's a couple of Japanese guys

that came over to MLB this year that are incredible.

There's just a lot of very, very, like highly hyped players came over. And I forget one of these names when I think he's the first base from the third base from the came over. I forgot what team he signed with,

but there was a video of a tonney trying to like, he was like trying to fix his like stance or little, like where he held the bat and he just was explaining. He was trying to move his elbow angle. Like just a little, he just was a judge.

He basically was saying, move your bat back one inch and talk your elbow in one inch. And it was kind of like adjusting someone's golf stance a little and they had like a 90 second conversation where you could just see them doing it.

And the next that batting in a grand slam. No. And it was, it was unbelievable. But yeah, I thought it was like really shit. I should do that every time.

Yeah, it's a thought he just fixed this way. It's crazy. Okay. Let's do a couple of emails to get out of here. Let's do it.

Also breaking news. Also a diggy. Also a diggy. Sue was traded to the 49ers. I don't know if that.

Cowboys traded with 49ers. There's so there's that. Oh wait. Also hold on. Shefter posted that Raven's GM Eric to cost.

They said that after losing their starting center, Tyler Lindervon to the Raiders, they were interested in pairing together. Trey Hendrickson and Max Frostby. That's what she said.

That's what she said. That's what she said. Yeah, there's a quote already up from DeCost as press conference. I'm not listening to it, but I can, they, they wrote down the quote. He said.

Um, city and buyers are more. Quote. I understand it. We live in that age of skepticism and people question. I have a responsibility to the Ravens.

Nobody is more upset about this than me. Guided by it actually. Oh, regret. Nobody is more upset about that. He's gunned by this.

He's like, uh, I'm going to love using those first round picks.

That's good. Awesome. Can't wait for that. He probably does feel good. I like, like, I will say though.

I don't think this is a master plan. No, it's very embarrassing for the Ravens. It's very embarrassing. Like, this is humiliating. Because they, they really care about like,

holding themselves on high esteem. And yeah, as he said, push League. That's all brutal. All right. Wait, I want to read this one email.

I'm going to, I want to just tell you guys a story. So, we don't bring up Donald Trump a lot on this show. But I did have to read you guys.

“Did you see the Wall Street Journal article about Donald Trump?”

Uh, he's obsessed with his pair of shoes. I thought. And the shoes. He buys for everyone and his cabinet. And they all wear them because you guys don't buy me shoes.

I should. But Trump buys everyone the shoes that he wears. And then everyone wears them because they're afraid that they'll insult him. So they all wear these shoes. But the best part is that Trump does not, and this is ever Rubio.

This is like his entire cabinet. Everyone gets the shoes. The best part, though, in my favorite part of the story. Is that Trump does not ask them which size their shoe is. He just guesses.

He's just sizing them up. He just guesses. And so none of them fit. They're all too small or they're all too big. So they all have to just kind of sack up and like wear these shoes that do not fit them.

And like be in pain all day. And it was about all this Trump said it was circle like hates the shoes. They wear constantly. But no one wants them out. Wear them.

Uh, wish I wasn't wearing this fucking shirt. And. So Trump takes the time to guess everyone's shoe size.

Yeah, if you just order someone bull.

Can he's like, why don't you have like an assistant find that everyone's size.

No one knows. Can you do the question someone should be asking? No one knows. Uh, I think how he avoids doing work. He's like, I have a lot of things to do.

I got to I got to guess every single person's put size shoe size.

“I think that's a window into the man's mind as we go through various world events.”

He just guesses people shoe sizes. But this story, particularly hit me. Because my dad who's also from Queens also does this. He buys people shoes. He gets to shoes.

Everyone has no, not like everyone has to wear shoes. My dad and that if you listen, I love you. My dad will buy me a gift like he'll buy me shirts. Does not ask me what my size is. He just guesses.

There's something old school about sizing someone. Just fucking guesses. And I don't know if it's a boomer thing that you're closed on a hat. Well, I mean, I love my dad. You are who you are.

And he, I mean, you're either like a medium of larger next time. He knows by now. He knows it. No. So he'll buy me a shirt.

And I'm like, do you want me to like try it on?

And we'll return it. And he's like, no, no, no. And he just sent me. He just would send me a shirt. And my dad, this doesn't fit.

And he's like, yes, it does. They're like, no, no dad. I appreciate this gift. He just does not fit me. I can't wear this.

I look ridiculous. It's like, I look like a pirate. I'm like these sleeves. I can't wear this. And he's like, you're being ridiculous.

Just accept the shirt. What are you doing? I would send him a photo. I'm be like, look at me. It doesn't care.

I face time. I'm like, this doesn't fucking fit. I'm sending this back. And he's like, they're at there. I'm like, that's like dad.

There's an article in the Wall Street Journal. It doesn't. My shirt doesn't fit. You're embarrassing me. So I read this.

And I was like, oh my god. You're like, this is too real. I got to say it. It's like that means thing. That is real alpha behavior to be like, I'll tell you what your shoe says.

Yeah, right? It's insane. It's actually crazy. It's just something that is underlakeable. I'll just get their own size.

It's more work. What he's doing. The shoes are $145. Does Trump get like a, are they like, hey, this guy, Mark here is $6305.

And then Trump's like, hmm. He's like, well, I'm $64025.

“So you must be, just Trump have like a, a file of”

Feet picks that he then judges shoes size with. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, he just, yeah, they released the files. Yeah. He's got all their roots feet.

Yeah. That went through my mind. So yeah. Uh, I've another email here. Also just, sorry.

I found this from last year's email. I wanted to read this, but this is from Cam. Wow. We talked about March Madness and Venmele and Venmele has this problem. We're every year in Venmele, the biggest spike.

They get all years March Madness for everyone. They can't report it as gambling pizza. Pizza. Yeah. So yeah.

It's like pizza. And then we'll sit here and just seize someone getting. We had so many pizza parties. We also had a huge pizza party right when the NFL season ended. And we're done with our fantasy leagues.

So Cam talked about how. Wow.

This is age even better because they used talking about basically.

I'll summarize the email, but his point is he said it's Venmele to private. And he didn't realize that that meant that like. Your past Venmele don't become private. Yeah. You can set that.

So he realized that.

“He had been like taking March Madness Venmele from co-workers.”

But all the Venmele that were left on his feed that they were looking at. We're all of his dumb transactions for college. It's Venmele cancel. Oh, tweets. Like.

Oh. Yeah. It's like a half of the jet Mad transactions public. To be. Why is that even an option is my question.

Who the fuck needs a social media feed of Venmele payments. Venmele fucking trying to make this social. Venmele is a Venmele's listening. I'm so angry at you. They try to make this a social media.

Yeah. Fucking dare you. You can like people like other people's transactions. I've thought we're doing it. It's remarkably stupid.

We're doing it. Yeah. Yeah. Jacob. He paid so and so Sarah for a pizza.

Like most 99% of the people that are on your feed or whatever. Venmele don't realize that they're on your own. 100%. Also like you said, hi, but there's like private mode. And then there's like extra private mode where you can actually block.

I don't know why there are so many layers. Seems like it should be just one or two or just one or not. Like it's binary. You can either see them or not. That's what I want.

It's just Venmele. Oh my god. It's Venmele the latest and I guess it's chat GPT. It's Venmele the latest app to become a verb. Because Venmele is a verb now.

But I guess people do say chat GPT it. Well, that's terrible. That won't last. I know. They do say it though.

But like, oh, I'll just Venmele you is just like in the lexicon now. I know it's two syllables that flows as perfect. Chat GPT four syllables horrific order. Okay, I'll cash app you. People say that.

No. No. And then snatched. How just Venmele me.

All Venmele you 20 bucks.

No big deal. One letter. Chat GPT it. People say that. Did you know, but we got to do better.

It's a mouthful. One last email from Jimmy. Jimmy. Friendship was up there.

He's going to speak in the third.

Don't touch Jimmy. Jimmy. Speaking of Baltimore. Sorry. What was his breakfast?

Breakfast of Venmele and Hazelnut. Uncrustible. Hazelnut. Wow. That's kind of cool.

What did he get the Venmele in there? Is he just like, was he backed back? I feel like Venmele and Uncrustable goes together nice. I'm not, I'm not real familiar with uncrustables. What are they?

What? Are they like pop charts? Fuck you talking about. That's the thing they give out an Indianapolis. Yeah.

I've never done that. I've never had them. What? You don't know what an Indianapolis. I've heard of it.

I don't know what they are though. Like, can you picture it in your head right now? No. That's why I'm asking. What?

I said it like a pop chart. I don't know. No. It's basically it. It's just a PB&J cut into a circle without crust.

Oh. Yeah. No. I was not. It's like Art Winky.

They're the live forever. But they have to be frozen for some reason. They're really good frozen. I don't know. Even if you don't let it fall.

You don't have never done this.

“I think it's having flashbacks to what he ate.”

I think it's going to happen. I think it's going to happen. So I think it's going to happen. I think it's going to happen. I think it's going to happen.

So I think it's going to happen. So I think it's going to happen. So I think it's going to happen. So I think it's going to happen. So I think it's going to happen.

So I think it's going to happen. I don't know. I don't know. I don't have a crustals that.

“I feel like they're having a Renaissance.”

I don't know what big and crustal we're doing, but they've never eaten one.

Because all the players have an crustal. All the teams, the NBA players. Is that right? The NBA players love peanut butter jelly. All these guys do.

But now all that teams have from crustables. They've had a whole Renaissance. I don't know how they all are. P.B. and J is fucking great. That one of the all time flavor combinations.

Properly rated. It really is so good. Every time I have one in his hands. Yeah. My son's allergic to peanut.

Well, he probably would still like to taste. No, in fact he hates it. Well, I think he's probably probably. It's like makes him, it's revolting to him. Yeah.

Which is great. All men. I guess he can do all men butter in jail. Sure. That works.

That is good. Hmm. Crust can taste. It's good. I do a lot of all men butter.

Oh, the butter's fine. Yeah. Can I do one more email for you guys? Oh, yeah. Right.

Right. Yeah. Yeah. He said, um. Jimmy had a pitch for a sequel to Harry Potter or Coachella game.

Wait. He just read his email verbatim. Jimmy had a pitch for a movie. He's speaking in third person.

“Here's my pitch for a sequel to the Harry Potter character or Coachella band.”

Oh, yeah. Game last year. Pokemon or 2026 Coachella artist. Ooh. I'm a little bit familiar with Pokemon because Calvin's super into it.

I am doing this straight from his view. I don't. I don't know. Okay. So I know like old school Pokemon, but either like a thousand new ones.

I don't know probably.

I know like fucking Charizard and Scordle, but I don't know.

I mean, they're not on here.

So we're doing Pokemon.

“Is it a Pokemon or a band playing Coachella this year?”

Sweet. Iron jugulus. That sounds like a Pokemon. Band. I think that's got to be a band.

Okay. Fuck. It's a Pokemon. Really? A jugulus.

Espartha. What? Espartha. Pokemon. Espartha.

Pokemon. ARTHA. Pokemon. Pokemon. It's a Pokemon.

Nice. Prospa. Pokemon. Yeah. I'm going to go to Pokemon.

It's a band. Damn it. Prospa. Wait. Let me look it up.

Coachella band. Ooh. I know. A Rhodes. A R O D E S.

I don't know how to spell.

Say that. A Rhodes. I'm going to go with band. Same. Follow me.

Yeah. I feel like it needs to be easy to pronounce if it's a Pokemon because it's just a road. Like what about Goz Lord? Goz Lord. That's a band.

Band. Pokemon. Fuck. Yeah. Goz Lord.

Goz Lord. Goz Lord. Goz Lord. Some of the names are kind of sexual. Tapu Coco.

Coco is two case. Two different words. Tapu Coco. Tapu. I abstain from this one.

Tapu Coco. I'm going.

“I'm going band because of what you said about pronunciation.”

Yeah. Oh yeah. Great. It's a Pokemon. Well, I guess you pronounced it kind of easily.

Freak Slug. Freak Slug. Freak Slug. I feel like Pokemon. The Guzz.

What was the Guzz one? Guzz Lord was.

Guzz Lord being a Pokemon.

I feel like he's leading you to believe. This is a Pokemon. So I'm going to go band. It is a band. Freak Slug.

Freak Slug. That feels like a Pokemon. Pokemon. Band. Oh, no, it's a band.

Yep, it's a band. What is it? Mochak. M-O-C-H-A-K. Our hit rate here is pathetic.

We actually, it's hard to do this bad. Breon. Br-I-O-N-N-E. Breon. Breon.

Pokemon. I think the band. It's a Pokemon. Nice. Shit.

Clevver estimated my Pokemon. Clevkey. Band. Band. Pokemon.

God. Screlp. Pokemon. Pokemon. Pokemon.

Gordo. Pokemon. Band. Band. Band.

Band. It's a band. Yeah. Durant. Spelled like Kevin.

Band. Band. Pokemon. What? Durant the Pokemon?

Durant the Pokemon. Wow. I don't know. Pokemon. Cocheloband.

You're terrible at this. This is actually a very good game. Well done. Jimmy. Well done, Jimmy.

Incredible work. Durant the Pokemon.

“I wonder if these two Pokemon games are just wild.”

Freaks. 30th anniversary. Alright. Thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig.

Thank you, Austin. I'm sorry. Don't know the Raiders. Sorry, Austin. Thank you for coming on.

Thank you, Cam. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you everyone. Thank you, Carlos.

Thank you for listening. Emile sirring and fancy football to email.com. Join the ringer fancy football. Ringer and a filth draft show. The Marchman is bracket.

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We'll have a 2026 tournament. We will send out merch. Unless we think of a better price. Emile is the view of it a different price. Do we want other emails?

What else do we ask for? I. We're going to do the free agency hangover. Next week. So I want I want hangover stories.

I want all time. I want hangover stories. Good enough to be to be the movie hangover for. Yes. Tell me about your most legendary insane hangover stories.

What happened the night before? What happened when you woke up? Where you were when you woke up? Having to go back and find somebody. Any hangover related story.

We will add to the end of our free agency hangover episode next week. Emile does. And of course. Thank you, Lord. Lord.

Thank you. Freaks love. Freaks love. Like, then. So they called me in high school. Oh.

Freaks love. Look to her name. Her name is Zenia Gen of Aize. She on the Italian. And Aize.

Zenia Gen of Aize. No one by her stage name. Freaks love because they British indie rock musician from Manchester. Oh. Cool.

She has one studio album called I Blow Out Big Candles. It's provocative. What? I mean freaks. Yeah.

She kind of Aize. Zenia Gen of Aize. You know, it's crazy. It's the rare person who could have just gone by Zenia. For sure.

Could have just gone by Zenia Gen of Aize. Zenia Gen of Aize. We're really in a crazy era of just names. People just be named anything. People just be.

People just be.

People just be named.

Dude.

You know, Chase infinity.

“The actress from one battle after another.”

Better real name. Her chase infinity. Yes. Which character? She's Leo's daughter.

Yeah. Chase infinity. Correct. Her name is Chase infinity. Pain.

Her last name is Pain. Her middle name is infinity. Her name is Chase infinity. Pain.

She's named after fucking Buzz Lightyear.

Oh. Like, I'm not an infinity. It's an infinity in beyond. It's in her Wikipedia. Her parents are just like, yeah.

We like your name. We like Buzz Lightyear. Her name is Chase infinity. It's kind of sick. Yeah.

I'm into it.

“She's like one and raised any of theapolis.”

Maybe we get around the next combine. Oh, there we go. She said. Next year. Chase infinity.

Oh, you also correct.

Are you going to be at the Oscars on Sunday?

You betcha. All right. It's the let me in. I think I'll be there. All right.

It's the let me in. I think I'll be there. All right. It's the let me in. It's the let me in.

I think I'll be there. All right. It's the let me in. It's the let me in. I think I'll be there.

All right. It's the let me in. I think I'll be there. All right. It's the let me in.

It's the let me in. I think I'll be there. All right. Red carpet for famous hot people, and then there's this other red carpet in the back for ugly non-famous people that I will be on.

“I should do the interviews to look in the back of black carpet. You should use it to the wet everything well.”

Like the carpet is red, but it's like behind all the other stuff and there's not really in there's like no cameras. The maroon carpet, particularly stains. Yeah, it's that's the space carpet. There's been here since the 70s. Um, yeah, I don't know what else. The food is actually sneaky great. There's an afterparty of the floor above the Oscars called the governor's ball. And, um, Wolfgang Puck does the whole thing and it's really good food. That's gotta stick. I was just gonna ask you to do a Wolfgang Puck impression Craig. I don't know if you were real familiar.

It might just turn out to be like kind of sounding like you're making fun of his accent. Right. Where's he from again? The Germany? Germany? Yeah, I would just say I don't know. I don't have that. Let's see. Oh, Austria. Austria. I don't have a good German Austrian. I guess Arnold Schwarzenegger. I don't really have a good German accent in my bed. Get to the top. Dude, can you do the, uh,

shit, who is the director? Werner Herzog Herzog? I do a Werner work for Herzog. He's the craziest motherfucker I've ever seen in my life. It's also a thing where he was made. He made this movie that's based in like the Amazon or something and he was like the junk. It is angry. It's trying to kill us. It's

just love everything about it. That is good. Did you see it? I saw Netflix is the dinosaurs thing and I haven't watched it yet, but I did see Morgan Freeman had some, I don't, I actually know that I think about it. I don't know if this was a higher now. I know actually now that I know what you're talking about. It was Morgan Freeman outtakes from the dinosaur thing and now I'm realizing I definitely got got that was definitely

me not real, but it was a legendary experience. I do want to watch that. I love, I watched anything with dinosaurs. I mean, Spielberg produced it. I mean, I'm in. Dinosaurs to me are like space. If you were like, you know, it's not actually real, but it's fun to watch. You know, the suspension of this movie. Yeah, sure. Goodbye, everyone. The T-Rex is just so big. Why they die. [Music]

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