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“Welcome to the ringer, and if I'll draft show my name is Dana Hype,”

today I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Coro back and we're going over the off-season vibes for all 32 teams. Craig, we're going to draft some vibes today. For a show called the ringer and if I'll draft show, we do very little drafting of things. But that changes today.

We will be drafting all 32 teams based on vibes over expectations from last year. That sounds kind of confusing.

It's basically just when the season ended last year, the most recent season, first is right

now, how much have the vibes improved and where we're drafting teams? Yeah. Or decreased. Or decreased. Or decreased.

We were talking about basically who's winning the off-season, but what is winning the off-season even mean? It's really, it's like, oh, how much happier the fans got in since and it's like, you know, if you're the Super Bowl winner like the Seahawkship really can cost off it. But yeah.

So it's just, you know, vibes over expectations. Because the vibes king, each have our own big boards here. I love, I love a fucking big board. I got my own big board of all 32 teams. Each of us have our own.

We're going to draft like NFL draft style, where we're going to go 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3. We're not snaking that big. Yeah. It's not a science. It's an art and he cares the vibes king.

“But I think that the key is, we're including everything.”

So a good example is there's free, some, and all seriousness, the reason we do this is,

okay, I think you pointed this out at first few years ago that we kind of look at the

Austin's in silos. When the draft happens, we look at the draft and when the free agency happens, we look at the free agency and then the coaches happen, what we're trying to do is capture everything that's happened so far. So people look at the charges for agency and it's like, well, it's no good.

It's like, well, they hired Mike with Daniel. That's pretty awesome. Mike with Daniel working with Daniel. It's bigger than just about any signing that's happened for agency. So we're looking holistically at, it's a bit Daniel, it's John Harbaugh.

It's the Max Cross, we trade happening, snitch snap, it's everything happening of, how you feel? This isn't. So with that said, there are a couple of pieces of news I want to hit first and also caveat, we are recording this on Friday, March 27th.

So if Kirk cousin signs or AJ Brown straighted or something in the next couple days, we'll hit it later in the week, the owners meetings have started by the time you're listening to this on Monday, March 30th or whatever. So we wanted to do a couple of things that are going to be talked about on Monday with the owners meetings, starting with, uh, the NFL is going to threaten to use replacement

referees again, this again, I thought we're done with this. What year was that? 2012. Yeah. And it famously ended with the fail Mary, the Seahawks Packers game, which DK you could

explain. Correct. They got it right. Yeah, they got it right. I still just seared in my brain, one guy is signaling touchdown, the other guy is signaling

like turnover. So good. It's a total lack, you see what the lack of authority looks like in a sports game, you're like, oh, someone does need to be in charge of this. They put it at happily in the coverage sports illustrated.

I Roger Sherman had a breakdown of this at the ringer feet as a go that I read on the 10 year anniversary. I forgot that another replacement ref thing that happened, which again, just you know, the NFL owners locked out the refs, they're like, screw it. We don't need you and they hired all new refs that weren't in the union.

And then the referees, an overtime of a Titans game gave the Titans 27 yards and a 15 yard penalty because it was assessed from the 44, they put it at the wrong 44 and the Titans were like, cool. Kick the field gold won the game. Like, it was a mess.

That is tricky math. It's, you know, there's two 44s that wouldn't talk so confusing. It's hard. You got to go to 15 and start counting back down. It's confusing.

Refts are 60. Also, it's 60. I didn't. I didn't know the fail Mary also, the other nickname for it is the inaccurate reception. I didn't.

That's great. No one said that.

“That was, yeah, it was ridiculous and here's the thing.”

This is kind of all fun and get correct call. But the other thing I want to point out though, about that past lock out. So the NFL literally went into an NFL season with fake referees, that year in 2012,

Roger Gidele was making $44 million a year and this is a great thing Roger Sherman pointed

out in his 10 year anniversary column at the ringer.com if you want to read it. So Roger Gidele was making $44 million. How much do you think the NFL owners locked the rest out over? How much more, all of the referees were asking for collectively to $5 million, $3 million. $3 million.

Why does Roger Gidele make so much money? He's got a lot of money to not give other people money, but like I just cast job. Just to give people an idea of the scale, the NFL is so militant in how they do this, that they were actually like, we're told all of the referees to fuck off for $3 million.

I don't know the exact number they're arguing about now, it's more.

I actually can't remember the last time the NFL was like really in a bad leverage spot.

But like I think this is all posturing. The NFL going to replacement referees with all the gambling stuff going on is insane. The idea that they will have replacement refs when everyone is like the NBA has gambling stuff. College basketball, we're making it through the tournament.

“How many college basketball players were indicted on counts of point-shaving this season?”

That went under the rug. But like the NFL has actually kind of handled it better than some of the other leagues. Major League Baseball had a manual clash A and like the Cleveland players like Mike would have prison. Like there are the NFL has actually kind of stayed out of it. Referees I think would have such a big like the perception that a replacement ref is gambling on a game.

Is such a bigger deal than a player actually doing it to me? Then I think this would be crazy for the NFL to let this happen. Would replacement refs bring scoring up or down? That's a good question. My first thought is they would just call more shit.

Or are they too afraid to, there's kind of let it let it go? Yeah, I don't know. I think it would be crew to crew. I see they're so incompetent. I think my initial instinct is that scoring would go up because I have to imagine if I was

a replacement ref, I want to be on television and speaking as little as possible. So I'll just let things happen. Which is the opposite of normal revenue. If I'm not speaking, people don't notice me, right? So I probably just let things go.

Can you imagine like throwing, like it's always sea players working with refs?

Can you imagine? Can you imagine.

“No one really knew. I would just let everything happen.”

I think I'm playing game. God speed up these replicas. I want to clean game, right? Really? I really don't really need it.

I've always wanted to see a world where players in some sport have to ref themselves. James Harden, if you try to call that stuff like prison rules, I'm like, okay, you're going to get the shit kicked out of you. I've kind of always wanted to see what would happen. Yeah.

There's nothing worse though when you call your own fouls and it's like, there's always one guy who just calls every foul. He's trying to call every one. Yeah. Charge.

There's honor in taking a fucking hit to the arm and not calling foul. There's honor in that. You know, that's how I feel. Anyway, so the, yeah, we can go to it, but I don't replace with refs, please. The other just thing for the owners meeting is they're not going to try to ban the

Tush push that I'm going to try. Look at that. Eagles lose in the playoffs without winning even one playoff game. Everyone forget. The NFL doesn't care, it's almost like it was sore losers, the entire time.

Which is ironic because the irony here to me is like, I was against banning it last year. And now I'm for banning it because it's a boring, stupid play and I'm sick of it. Well, yeah, and also, maybe the Eagles are going to take even more advantage of it. They share if we have replacement reps because they're not going to know how to call a fall start.

That's what she said. It's probably going to be even worse. Dude, the, it's funny because the refs now at least have the wherewithal to, they make up where the, the spot is, but they know how to pretend because they, none of the other reps can see where the ball is.

They're all making it up. And then there's no replay. No, this, the replacement refs try to manage the Tush push. Can I say, I just need to see like five to 10 teams spamming the Tush push effectively every week for me to want to ban it.

If one team is doing it, I don't think we should ban it. Like multiple plays in a row.

If it just becomes a huge epidemic where it's like every third and fourth and one is the

Tush push. I think we could then reconsider, but, but yeah, it's funny because it's still quarterback sneaking. Like it's just like, it's like, and I think teams have their tight ends do this. See.

Oh, so the AJ Barner. They, like, it's funny. We're like, we Donald hired Clinkoobieck, the coordinator last year.

“The only thing he like insisted on playing, he was like, I'm not going to tell you anything.”

All I want is I want us to have AJ Barner have a Tush push back. Yeah. He was like the only, which I'm like that. I choked with this last year. It's like, it's like, I cue test of your head coach and coordinator of whether you try

this or not. They're like, it's so effective. They might ban it. And I just judge the teams that don't try so hard. But it's a great spot for like the backup tie-dend on every team now.

They're like, cool. I get to score like maybe three touchdowns this year. I also just wanted to add that I think it's funny that, or I don't know what it is, but the NFL has now turned, they've, they're so good at mastering the calendar, the actual human being calendar, that the owner's meetings are like, we talk about the owners.

Yeah. It's like Jesus Christ. Give us a break here. They're like, we're going to win early April with the coaches meeting. We got to own this weekend.

Last year, like, last year, it's baseball's opening day in the Tush push, we're like side by side. Yeah. We're going to kill us. We'll get to baseball at the end of the show, maybe.

We're in a fantasy baseball league, which we'll talk about that. But let's get to the vibe straft. So again, we wanted to kind of holistically talk about how every team's doing vibes wise. Like, who's winning the off season, who's losing the off season, it's, Craig, you probably

Can explain vibes over expectation better.

But the point is, the bills and the giants, the bills are way more likely to win the super place. Yes. That's just, which teams are better than the other team. It's not that.

“It's how much, how do you feel going into the next season based off last season?”

Yeah. It's like, it's like there's a little stock charts of the stocks up or down. It's like, if Apple goes red and like is down, like, you know, $10 on their stock, they're still higher than almost every stock. Yeah.

But if you pull up the chart from January one to now, well, Apple's red and another company's green. We're looking at the charts. We're like, how, how green, how up are you, how it's down? That's what we're looking at.

Just lines from give or take January first.

If you, if you think your three-win team is now going to win nine games, that's a massive vibes jump compared to a 12-1 team that might go down to a 10-1 team. Yes. So with this extremely scientific perspective, like we had to talk for about five. I think people get it.

I think people get it. I think people get it. I think people get it. Who's winning the off season? Good.

So we're going to determine first pick with a trivia question, correct? Yeah. So we have a trivia question here. Woo! Man.

No, no, no, no. A little off season trivia. Hi, if it's one trivia this year, right? No endeavors. Yeah.

No, I remember because I won the year before that. Yeah. Well, I'm just dominating any things with no rewards or punishment. We won a ring or one of seven.

“I won the trivia when there was no thing to stay for.”

We should have a trivia. One, two, seven, man. We should have got the trivia. Yes, I can. Vegas, maybe.

Vegas. We crushed. Dude, we fucking annihilated them. We've got coins. I love the game.

Also, when you factor in how little time we spent on it, we won, even. We won by a million. I would buy a million. Oh, my God. Okay.

This one is from J.Bone. J.Bone. Breakfast, two black coffees and a joint. That's funny. All right.

That's a lot. Okay. J.Bone is smoking a J. He's like, "Leon, we're for Wall Street." He's like, "Two coffees to wake me up.

Join to me out." Hell yeah. The Leo opening scene in Wolf Wall Street when he throws the drink is unbelievable. Yeah. Is it the O.J. in the champagne glass?

Or is it? The best moment I've ever had in a movie was looking at my watch during Wolf Wall Street. And realizing there were two hours left in the movie. Oh my God. I wish there were ten.

Oh my God. This is so not close to over holy shit. Okay. J.Bone's trivia question.

So D.K. a couple weeks ago just had no idea what an incredible was.

Yeah. Which Greg was bewildered? Yeah, I was. Show I know. Okay.

Well, let's see if you really know. Because J.Bone's question is on average how many uncrustables are consumed by all combined NFL teams over the course of one season? By NFL teams? Like all the players in the NFL teams.

How is he quantifying that?

“Or is it just he's just taking me amount of people and averaging it out?”

I think they're trying to take some research that's been done. Is it just about how many people in America eat uncrustables? And they're just using that and as a parallel to NFL players? Or is there a specific NFL players focused? It's NFL team.

It's like someone put together the an estimate on how many teams. How many because they all buy a lot of uncrustables? Because it's like play peanut butter jelly, quick snap. It's protein in it. Guys like eat it at the weight room.

Okay. So how many uncrustables are consumed each year by NFL players? By all NFL players and all teams in a season. It's from an athletic article. Okay.

But look, it's hard for me to do the fact checking without finding out the answer. Okay. You got to write the answer down immediately and then look it up. I should have, but I'm 22 in the season, but I'm rusty. So I just opened the email and really clicked it.

Hence why didn't it was breakfast. All right. Three, two, one. Fifty. Fifty.

Fifty. Fifty. I said 15,000. Fifty. Fifty.

I said 50. I said 20,000. Okay. The answer is, come on. Okay.

What you can also, if there's a lot. We have per team numbers. It's incredible. What? Uh.

80,000. It's a total part though. That's a total. So the same spangles only at 50. The Broncos 8700 decays, Cux had 320.

Second and most in the NFL. 320 sandwiches.

Are they, is an incredible sandwich?

Yeah. I thought. Okay. Now maybe I don't know what it across. Wait.

They only had 320 all year. How did it get to 80,000? How did it get to 80,000? How did it get to 80,000? How did it get to 80,000?