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to do it for John Moran because there's a bunch of lessons in here. There's a bunch of things that I want to talk about. And the number one lesson that we need to remind ourselves of all the time when it looks like someone has zero value in this league is that there is no such thing as an
“untradable player, even though we were like man, the league is loaded with point cards everywhere.”
You either have one that you love. And you don't want to mess with it. You're just drafted one, think about this draft class and how many teams is brought in the guys? Like, well, then why would
you bring in job after the fact? So we knew the market was limited, but we should never suggest that
a market is not existing because Portland makes the move. They get rid of Jeremy Grant's money, which is still insane. This guy's going to put way like the 300 million when it's all said and done. 34 million next year, player option in two years for 36 million, probably going to pick that one up and then Chris Murray, the other Murray, five and a half million. So that made the money work for jaw who's 42 million this upcoming season and then another $45 million. Let's do the good news on
jaw. He's 26. That's about all I got for you. Because the rest of it's bad, career high games played in a season, 67 games, his rookie year. He played in the last three season combined. He's played in 79 basketball games. You could argue, hey, they could have played him this year, but you know, they were tanking. Okay, fine. It's still 79 games over three years. And he plays away. He has a style, which he's talked about trying to correct, that is so reckless and
was so much fun early on. But you were watching, going like, I expect his leg to pop out of his hip on some of these landings. And when you're in your early 20s, you pop right back up. He's not popping up anymore. He's still only 26 years old. Since he shot 34 percent from three in his third season, here are his three point percentages the next four years. 31 percent, 28 percent, 31 percent,
26 percent all rounded up, by the way. That's the last four years. He could never shoot. He cannot.
Now, I don't think he's a 26 percent shooter. Maybe if you had the ball of ton, which is another thing that we're going to have to talk about. You're a Portland in this roster construction. But I mean, can he be a little bit better? What happens when Dame has the ball in July? If he doesn't start cracking 31, I mean, even 31 percent's terrible, 33's may be livable. But you want to talk about like some of the things we look at in playoffs series, although I don't know what Portland has to
start mapping that out right now. But specific matchups. Hey, what do we want to do? Leave that guy open when he doesn't have the basketball? He also has a trend here. The numbers, it looks bad on a chart. Maybe the numbers themselves aren't as bad. But his restricted makes, which is something that made him so special at his size with his athleticism and his finishing at the rim when it looked like most guys would be stuck. Joe would find a solution. His makes in the
restricted area have gone down five straight seasons. His best advanced numbers were in 22 and 23. But that was also coinciding with a usage rate that was the fourth highest in the NBA in the fifth highest
In the NBA.
seventh and 12th in these seasons. But unless he gets the keys to the offense every time down, it's hard to figure out how you optimize him once he's healthy again. And on top of it, Damien Lillard is coming back to start the season. With Dame coming back, who you can say, hey,
“he's coming back for free. I think Dame going back to Portland, one of the things that just wasn't”
discussed enough is of all the options that you had and then you had this like, look, they had a Western Conference finals appearance against Golden State. They had no chance in that. It's a lot like the Atlanta one I talk about this all the time. It's like you made a conference finals. But I don't really know that this is like the first step up the pyramid. It might just be a fluke. It was for that Portland team. Lillard gets a chance to go to Milwaukee compete. There's a bunch of reasons why
I didn't work out Milwaukee. Dame is certainly not the main reason. But his defense was so bad. It changed a lot of who they were. And there's a piece in ESPN with Jamal Collier, Ramona Schelburn, talking about the Yanis exit and everything that went on through there. And there was a book source that was like we kind of underestimated what it meant to move away from jaw. Even though we were sacrificing defense for offense and getting rid of excuse me, Drew and Drew holiday. We're
sacrificing that for the Dame trade. But there was a lot more to it all when, by the way, Drew
is in Portland as well. He's got some money owed to him 35 million next year and then a 37 million
dollar player option at 37 years old for Drew holiday. Probably going to pick that one up too. Go ahead and report that right now here on the run or solo show. Drew can play anywhere and you can maybe assign him to what you're doing defensively against the primary ball handler. Maybe there's a wing that you want to have Drew beat up on. I thought Drew was terrific in that San Antonio series. I mean, hell, they put him on one mid yama, which isn't a lot of fun for him. But there
were some really good Drew stuff, despite a player that's getting older here. So you have Dame, you have Drew. You bring in jaw. You got to get screwed out of there. You got to let my guy go.
“If you love scoot, let him free. And I think they say set him free, but hasn't been said to me ever. So”
the point is is that you've got scoot, you've got sharp who I feel like is kind of like Jalen Green but worse and worse marketing. Maybe I'll be wrong about that. He hasn't exactly been healthy all the time. It's really fun when it works. Handle, shooting, athleticism, the lobs, and all that stuff. But we're all these guys playing is my point. And I think this is kind of
damning for Scoot as much as I love Scoot out of the draft. He was a disaster the first year. It was
fine. I did not give up. I thought he showed some really, really good stuff, especially to close that second year. But again, the close of some of these seasons, when everybody's taking, can be a bit of full school that he has his hamstring injury that lingers forever. But he gets to learn by watching. And I thought when he came back, he played really well. I thought it was the best he's looked. It's the best he should look three years into his NBA career. And I thought he had
some awesome moments in that San Antonio series, except for the part where maybe he got a little too hyped up to have that show done against Dylan Harper and Dylan Harper's like, bro, I've been in the league like five months and I'm already way better than you are, despite your resume coming into the league. So I'm excited about what Scoot is, but that's basically salvaging what everybody else thought about Scoot in the beginning. What I would tell you is it feels kind of
damning about Scoot to then do this with little already in place. So there's that. And again, I don't know what they're going to do with sharp. What about Denny Avdia? Remember him? That's what we're going to be saying this season. He had the keys this year. It worked for him. He was unbelievable. All NBA type of season. Most improved player stuff all year long. John takes between 18 and 20 shots a game. Damen is prime is taken 20 shots a game in his non prime. He's taken 17 shots
“a game because of dames out there and not taking a ton of shots. Then why is he out there, right?”
Denny took 16 shots last season, but he took nine plus free throws a game, which, of course, impacts, and you get foul that much. It really means he's probably taken like, you know, I don't know, 21 shots a game. What's going to happen to him? Because a lot of that is him being on the ball. So you are now bringing game back, which I didn't entirely finish my thought there, but I thought it was kind of like a read into where his head was at, that he gets this taste
to maybe chase something Milwaukee doesn't work out. It's like, you know what was sick? When everyone worshiped me in Portland, I took 20 shots a game. I lit up the box score.
I never had any pressure on me. We had that one year where we lost the Warriors, but no,
you even thought I was going to win. This is actually kind of awesome. Like, I'm an awesome score. And I don't deal with any of the shit the rest of these guys do because everybody knows I'm not necessarily at their level. I'd actually like to do that again now that I've made all of my money. So I don't know what you're going to do to Denny here by having Damen on the ball. You can say you're
Going to split them up with John, but you're probably going to open and close...
Unless you're going to try some really funky stuff with Mike and Ori who's contract is the funkiest thing we've seen in coaching history in a very short amount of time. Um, and I like
Mike a lot. I don't know him. I've always been impressed with those Minnesota Timberwolves broadcast
whiteboard things that he did. I always thought he was really good. Look, people rave about it. I've finished losing. So you may be with all of these moves here with Portland messing with the best player on your entire team. Because going in next year, Denny is still the best player on this team. And it's not even close. You're going to have the worst back court defense sure. Drew can be on one of those guys. But then what does that mean? Jar. Dames on a small forward.
You know, Clingon's going to be back there. Like a dad with like seven toddlers in the backyard all running at him at the same time going like I don't I don't know which direction to go to first.
“So that's what you have here. It doesn't make a lot of sense. I would not do this”
of our Portland, but I understand why Portland did and I'll finish with that thought. But let's talk about the Grizzlies here because they died on May 11th, 2022. That was in the second round against the Golden State Warriors. They were down through one of the series. They won at Memphis 134. 95. Jar did not play.
Whoops, that trick. I've referenced it a million times. This rarely happens to me when I'm watching
a basketball game. And I come back on the next year. Next day on the air saying that that game meant something. And even though Memphis won by a million points, it actually to me was a sign of how stupid that team was. And I said at the time, I hope they get their asses kicked. Chris Vernon sent me a single tear text after that rant. I was heated the next day. Because it was a team that hadn't done anything. We were excited about their future,
which Aaron Jackson and Bane were excited about that trio. But the way they acted, you made disagree, but I'm like this is actually a bad sign about where this team's at mentally. And John acted weird. You know, we were talking about how guys were coming after him. Remember all that stuff. And it was just like the first time we had a chance to kind of look
“at the delusion of John Moran. Because you know, you have to be confident to play this game.”
It's okay to be delusional. I guess delusion and youth are a really powerful combination. But you can also get older and look back at your delusion and regret it a little bit. And John right now, I think is the most delusional star in the NBA ever since Ben Simmons handed him the belt. You can get into that. You can get into this suspension. And I said at the time, I thought this suspension was kind of tough. But I didn't know all the details. I read everything
that you read. I thought it was a bit excessive. So maybe it was a combination of all these different factors. But when he came back from some of the suspension, his father's out there wearing a redemption hoodie. And he may be part of the problem with all of this. And I don't think
I'm being unfair with that one. His interviews are always delusional. You're like, what is
with this guy? And then that Lakers game this season that I watched. And if everybody who's catching an on social media, because it's not like everybody was locked in, I think it might have been a Friday night game against the Lakers to watch the way job played in that game and go, oh my god, what are you doing? And then, of course, acts indignant in the locker room after the
“fact and then gets suspended. I think for just a game. And you're like, where where is the accountability?”
Where is the self-awareness with any of this stuff with everything you've gone through? You were one of the most beloved players in this league. Your shoes are selling out. Kids love you. And all of this was on you. And with everything getting tough, you were not even close to being the leader, while also not even being close to being the basketball player that everybody needed you to be at that time. He's kind of like the talented former quarterback, you know, the guy that was starting all the time,
and then he's a free agent, and you're thinking like, my god, I'd love if my team got him, he'd be great as a backup to the guy that's already in place, or maybe you're thinking like, it'd be great to bring him in. But if you're bringing him in and he's not guaranteed to be the starter, that's why Chase Daniel last in the league, because they're like, that guy's going to be okay being a backup. That guy's going to have self-awareness. That guy's going to be humbled a little bit.
I'm not comparing Chase to him with a Jama Rantt saying it, Shaw, needs to be more like Chase. But I've listened to some quarterbacks with some major, major profiles. Talk about how hard it was for them to become a backup because of their aura, and you're like, well, some teams don't want to sign up for aura and have it in the building when aura isn't allowed to be the main attraction. I just would need to know that jaw looks at these last couple of years and goes, I'm 26 with a
ton of basketball in front of me. If I can just stay healthy, I can contribute back to a basketball team. I actually hope that happens. We have just not had any indication for four years that that is going to happen. I wouldn't do it. Imagine Memphis being like, hey, down the road, you're going to train the face of your franchise. You're going to trade Jama Rantt for Jeremy Grant, who you don't even know one of the books in Chris Murray. That's what you're going to do. And impossible
Scenario years ago, but a scenario that makes sense based on where these last...
But Portland did it. And again, a lesson that NBA GMs can never forget a special resume. [BLANK_AUDIO]


