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based on sports book predictions and free-to-place sports contest availability varies by state limited time offer Opening weekend the real opening weekend a college football I have some thoughts I'm going to talk with Nate Tyson about some of the stuff that I don't get to so I don't want to double up on

“everything again Nate Tyson who loves I think Saturday as much as I do been joining us every”

Monday and we'll do some NFL overunders with him but let's start it off in Bat Rouge on Saturday night because that was pure domination by LSU you wonder what the kiffin offense was going to look like the assumption would be that it's going to look pretty good if they're healthy and same love it's back there and it was just an absolute train some of the stats from this game at one point

LSU was up 21 one and first downs against cumson they had over what they had 644 total yards

309 rushing yards which is kind of the whole thing with LSU the last two years is can you run the football LSU was last in the SEC and rushing per game Bama was second to last I can't imagine the last time or if that's ever happened in the SEC where those two schools were that bad at running the football and a lot of that had to do with Dylan Jones at running back who came over from Wisconsin I can't help but immediately look up some of the transfer portal stuff because it's still kind of

new for me too like catching up on all the rosters you can read stuff and it's like oh that guy all right so he was a four star running back number ten running back in his high school class when he came to Wisconsin a couple years ago he ended up with 92 total carries I guess they just didn't want to play him so in the transfer portal he drops to a three star which this stuff like I don't necessarily blame the people for doing it because it's like well they they didn't use him so why are we going to keep

but it's like you just downgraded him because he didn't play and he went from the number ten running back to the number 75 running back well that's not true because he was a beast and he's getting the touches over some much heralded recruits they're still on this roster for LSU just not going to hear from I don't know the other transfer stuff that happened Jordan Ross off the edge he was the number one edge guy five star that was at Tennessee Prince well who comes over from Ole Miss was ridiculous

they didn't even really use I don't think 99 the freshmen do sterals all that much um and they were able to run the football I would tell you though the Sam Levitt part of this and this is the reason why I brought up the Jackson Dark Comps is that it's a lot of fun and it's really competitive and herbstree kept calm like Baker Mayfield employees with his defensive mindset you know like

shit on me then it's like he's going to be able to stay healthy for 12 straight games the same reason why like the Jackson Dark thing I kind of go alright like we'll see because I don't like

“when quarterbacks instinctively want to bail that quickly like eventually I think you have to”

figure out like how do I stay in the passing play here before I go to something that definitely works and then I'm good at and the Levitt's so incredibly quick but just a lot to ask but he had

an incredible year two years ago so it kind of reminds you all that stuff so LSU looks really good

I couldn't help but think about how we felt about LSU just a year ago where they went into Clemson want to close game worried about the offensive line that was bad in 24 it was actually worse in 25 but for a night you were like hey LSU fixed your old line problems they did not we've already covered Nussmire and he was clearly hurt and the end of getting rid of their coach but because of that Clemson win LSU was nine in the free season polls and they jumped to number three because Clemson

was a top 10 team and really what we found out was Clemson was going to have one of the worst season they've ever had under Davo and this Davo thing continues to go in the wrong direction from 2015 to 2020 Clemson finished no worse than three in the final AP poll no worse than three the last five season for Clemson they finished in the AP 19 7 22 16 unranked last year who knows maybe LSU is just an absolute powerhouse and they got their ass kicked and Clemson will still make some noise and

a terrible ACC and if you're a vizina who gets the starting nod and you're like I get Bench and half time like can we just put in the CS school like the other teams thank you for walking around campus for a week me like yeah you know three ten four touchdowns no big deal what's the plan what's the plan this Thursday instead you get Bench for Reynolds who's more athletic you

run around and the whole idea is like maybe he gives us a chance in the second half against the

LSU Pash Rush which is just ridiculous on top of the edge guys and I'm talking about doddery coming over from Ole Miss lining them up with the healthy weeks the corners so that couldn't have been a lot of fun but Davo who I once joke should be ahead of Homeland Security because of how much he hates a transfer portal as recent as 2024 zero transfers

“he has I think 10 or 11 depending on where you look at the count of all this I think that second”

least in the ACC behind only Stanford or ahead of Stanford if you go through all the power four programs Clemsons like fourth or fifth least amount of transfers so it's clearly something Davo still doesn't like to do he brings in Chad Morris who he brought in in 2011 but the people that know this stuff a lot better than me are like hey Chad Morris is your OC like he hasn't been associated with a great offense in kind of a long time so Davo can hate work college football is now there's some things

that I hate about college football right now even the stuff happening with LSU this week I didn't really like it and it was kind of an odd circumstance with a new ruling of five seasons and five years you know that kind of thing but so maybe this whole things like pointless maybe in two years I don't even think that's a big of a deal because we've all become desensitized all these changes that maybe we'd be fighting against or just felt like our position was all you can't do that and Davo

is like still doing it with all sorts of different stuff and you know I don't want to get like hysterical about Davo's future with Clemson because of what he's done there but like if you can sit around and be mad or you can sit around and adapt to the rules that make you mad because there's really no other point in being in a competitive world and not trying to take every advantage that you can within reason after we obviously had some NBA news last week or

again boysy state fun game wasn't fun for Ducks fans I can't imagine in the first half I would tell you

the Ducks like a lot of mistakes throughout the game online another team that's a title contender that we just go a look at all the transfers and the online this will be fine I don't

“think it was fine maybe it's the first week I think there's probably a lot of teams that are going”

man we need to tighten some stuff up after that first week but with Oregon being a national type of contender I think you would have liked to see it be a little bit cleaner boysy's pick to win the pack 12 I think it's because the rest of the pack 12 was a very good so they're kind of everybody's playoff picks you can say hey they went up against a potential playoff team if boysy were in a power 4 I don't think that team is making the playoffs so they're probably going to get

the bit so they're tough I think they're quarterback there's times where I think there's some limitations there but they were in the fight the entire time and Oregon's first half you look at the first six possessions turn over on downs four plays in a punch touchdown the punt fumble by Stuart the receiver who's you know healthy downs again on fourth down obviously punt and then they got the touchdown at the end of the half I couldn't believe Dante more had 378 they couldn't

really run at that great so that was needed and the positive side for the ducks as you look at all these weapons in the receiving game it's it's stupid McClellan more had the huge play and Stuart who's healthy now they combined for 20 catches for 323 yards and then you had Jeremy Johnson the big

in the NFL he had the touchdown so a ton of weapons there they're going to have to clean up a lot

“of stuff speaking to online transfers and this is something I'm just going to keep pointing out”

because I'm worried about the sport I'm worried when I look at the transfer portal rankings and then who each conferences top transfers or in coming in the big 10 in the SEC like there's we already knew there was a gap between those two conferences and the ACC in the big 12 but if the ACC in big 12 were picking collectively from the non-power four schools and the big 10 in the SEC are loading up on other power four transfers like this is going to get even worse so ANM having to rebuild their

online after three players get drafted the centers the only returning one coming back they're at least bringing in three transfers from SEC schools so even if they flamed out or maybe they gave more money and they were terrific like there's a standard there's a base there of like oh okay yeah we actually were recruiting this kid out of high school a couple years ago let's try to get him in here

I'm going to probably always worry about like the thing that'll stand out for me that the

corner has been turned by marshal read a quarter back will be the red zone touchdown percentage because last year for a title contending team it was in a alarmingly low number so we'll see we weren't going to find out anything this past weekend because of who they played but the weapons that receive a gamer terrific for them they're loaded at running back after ons they've got two freshmen number three got his class number twenty got his class and both got some touches in this game

so ANM at least for a day against that terrible football team reminding us that there's a lot of options here for read a quarterback they also held Missouri State to 67 total yards on defense it was that bad of a game Indiana was a game I wanted to watch a lot of because I just wanted to see

Hoover he was only 13 to 16 but it was 231 and I thought it was great his misses are usually past breakups

“that's how accurate he is how good he is at leading receivers so and he'll take chances like he will”

consistently go hey I've got one and one I expect my wide receiver to win the battle and that's one of the things I know he turns it over a little bit more than everybody likes maybe they they clean that up a little but I'll take a few interceptions if I know what this receiving core that he has with marsh and becker like let those guys go win because they're going to win way more often than the corners ever going to win there you could nitpick a little bit about the D line given up

a bunch of rushing yards you could nitpick the old line give it up some not running it the way you expect with Indiana you know whatever I don't really care they only give up three points the last five positions against North Texas so let's look at the big boys to put in perspective what we saw from opening weekend because unfortunately this is going to keep happening if I were an AD I'm not scheduling anybody I mean you can make fun of me if you want I think some teams it's sit there

and get all chesty about other team schedules and they don't play fucking anybody like I don't love that but I mean this is this is what it's going to be because now everybody playing the nine conference games I just think we're going to lose a lot of these opening weekend things and we need even have like a great opening weekend slate and the Ole Miss Louisville game was terrific you know at least Clemson LSU on paper a couple years ago you felt like that was going to be a great

game Notre Dame's got to play somebody because the rest of the ACC's terrible so you know Wisconsin counts like I'm in the point now it's like oh you played Cal like all right cool at least to play somebody oh how estate plays ball state they went for an eight last year they're picked 12 or 13th in their conference they're one of the worst teams in college football don't worry like no one should take this personally it's just is what it is so I'm not even criticizing anyway

I just want to put in perspective who these top 10 teams played this opening weekend or again we were to cover that Georgia play Tennessee state they're an SES school that went to in 10 last year Notre Dame Wisconsin they may be the 16th best team in the big 10 although I do kind of like a QB and the defense was physical hung around there for half Texas played Texas state who is in no way you're getting that right they're in the packed 12 because of course they are

do I know every team in the packed 12 right now I know there's eight teams I couldn't tell you all a sorry I know I do this for a living but talk to me in October no number so Texas state is not a top 80 team picked fifth in the packed 12 Indiana North Texas they went 12 and two last year not exactly the same team it's 70 new players that's a lot that's a high number 19

“of a month to Oklahoma state I think I'd said in a preview Oklahoma state basically imported”

North Texas I don't look a lot but I saw a comment on Twitter or it was like actually it was only 19 players it was like oh my bad they're picked 11th or 12th in the American conference they're not a top 100 team my amy and Stanford I'm going to talk about Stanford for just a little bit a little bit later on it just bums me out to see him suck this bad they're picked last in the

would probably be a good thing Texas A&M Missouri State they went 7 and 6 last year they're picked

“eighth in conference USA probably not a top 80 team excuse me conference USA is so bad they don't”

have a single top 80 team according to Bill Conley from ESPN who we're going to have on we hope he has Missouri State as the 126 best team in college football almost Louisville terrific game

I thought King Holes was a disaster in the first half I mean Mcdonald even said like hey probably

wishes to the backup wish you probably no one ever wishes except for Danny Cannell when he was in the NFL but you know he opened it up they scored a ton of points that game was wild in the second half I think Ole Missy defense was incredibly stupid on like individual decisions I think there's like three specifics plays I could point to look what the hell are you doing that maybe lead to 21 points Oklahoma played you tap they went to in 10 last year they they're picked to go last in the mountain west

maybe not even a top 130 program and then I could keep doing this if I wanted to Texas Tech played abling Christian so not a daunting slate and look everyone is kind of guilty of it I mean you know

“sure there's a couple teams in there that's why I'm like hey noted in played Wisconsin”

they can play boysy um terrific I'm not calling out in the last day has played Texas next week all right so some of the teams are still doing it I just don't think you're going to see it I got to admit a little bit of FOMO getting some texts from down in Baton Rouge Raising Cain's founder Todd Gray's in the suite I think Brandon Landry was in there I think Mack Landry was in there

it looked like the natives were in full force Theo Vaughn I think that was his first ever LSU game

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to play sports contest availability theories by state limited time offer so we're going to do some college ball the back into this but let's start I need to start by apologizing and I've already done it but you were not involved with that we went through the contender list and we went deep on it I had Philadelphia in the whole section and I skipped over it and I saw some people like how could you do that and not if you were doing like potential contenders and you still

didn't even have Philly in that any thoughts on Philly real quick because I actually have them as an over okay I noted that too there's I want to get deep I guess in the Jacksonville Jaguar as

“offensive line I think maybe that's maybe you know caught my attention over the Eagles concerning”

yeah the Eagles defense I think is gonna be excellent uh little questions at safety you know that's one thing I have a little little questions on do I think they're contender I don't I I really do offensive crossroads that they're at or they're like hey Joan Hurts we're going to

have growing pains I think they're going to have growing pains too they're losing Jeff Stout and one of the best offensive line coaches ever who walked out you know as opposed to it that's

“smells that's a well no I think you're totally right because when I had to be reminded of it”

in the sea of information it's kind of like one of those things you're doing your preview things again and you're like oh and it was wasn't he asked to do something else yeah so he wanted to expand your role or limit your role one the one something yeah they're making him do something that yeah he was not that didn't want to do yeah he was I that's kind of been my joke is that he's been

the second most important person in that building for the last decade's been how he roseman

and then Jeff Stoutland like because it's like his idea the offensive line like it's all him like that's been the consistency it's always been gigantic athletic guys that he coaches up and I just think even if the replacement coach is okay it's still a drop off you know and it's an offensive system that they're really even if there's a little change of language like you're going to talk to a right tackle lane Johnson has been doing one thing his entire NFL career you know he's only

had one offensive line coaches that different coordinators different head coaches but one online coach so there's just those kind of I'm squint at that when the strengths are just starting to show some cracks that's going to kind of like you know pepper me off of them a little bit and on top of

“it hurts in this past a game I think there's ways for it to work everyone wants him to throw”

digs and seams that's not really his strength but he can throw stuff like overrounds and then get divante smith moving around but I just look at the rest of the roster they have no blocking tight ends like real ones you know they have months and stuff but like EOS towers is a project

you know they got a draft in the second round Dallas gotter it's not that type of blocker so

all right if we want to do play action we want to get under center we want to launch the ball tight ends have the block and they don't really have that so I I just have a lot of questions on this offense it might work but I'm a little pessimistic on it so I'm kind of overall pessimistic on the team it's 10 and a half wins it's considered the 10th easiest schedule but that's just based on the bonus winning percentage which can be a little like there's all sorts of different you want to

get into the strength the schedule we go for because there's some mass evaluation again more complicated models then combined opposing winning percentage from 25 but I still think it's over so

“I'm going to give that one out as an over look you've got the division you don't want to just”

save because the way the NFL works like between Dallas and the Giants or she's made between the Giants and the commanders that that's automatically four wins but it might be split with Dallas five you've got the tight and Steelers grad Arizona you'll have the Niners in week 17 when they're all going to be hurt so I still think 10 and a half is very manageable for them yeah I do too I'm right on the nine ten win cost I'm leaning more cowboys is then you I mean

I mean I can't even get my first overs cowboys over nine and a half wins but as I talked about last

week I I'm more bullish on the cowboys and they're the defense getting improving than the Eagles and their offense kind of getting to what they wanted to be kind of this new jailing her its offense or just really I'm just curious how it looks because I don't have a lot of examples to look at other than practice clips and practice you know takeaways haven't been exactly positive and even guys like Maui Kai lemon who they're okay we betrayed way you do brown don't

worry we're going to draft another first round receiver right here totally different skill sets and on top of it lemon hasn't been practicing at all and hasn't been doing much so he has now but he hasn't most mostly during camp but yeah it's just one of those words that stay away from me and I'd lean more cowboys and I guess I can even just say that that's my first kind of over nine and a half wins for the cowboys you've been on this cowboys thing now for months you know

I know you gave us the preview thing even stronger as we build to the start of the season because it seems like you're so pocket-mitted to it you're not pulling it start art yeah yeah but now I'm starting to poke holes because now I'm starting to go like all right how could this fall part because other team I've been high I was like the chargers but I'm like now I'm starting to poke holes on my own chargers stuff too so yeah the cowboys like what if the new defense coordinator's not

good you know like what if he's I might think he's great because he's new and different you know Christian Parker what if the new defensive changes aren't great you know what if it's like better on paper than it is in practice with the offensive line falls apart you know so but I'm still still staying on the over but yeah I've been starting to try and poke holes because I'm pretty take a minute on this I was looking at some of the win rate stuff too with the the D line and

their front like the numbers are really good yep and yet the defense was statistically the worst how does that happen another DBs are like on NFL roster right now from last year and on top of it is just like sports theory like if you have a talent deficiency you want to be a little bit more chaotic you know because you're just trying to you know create chances for yourself and Maddie refuses the opposite of a chaotic chaotic defense coordinator so he's calling the most basic zone

coverage is with terrible talent that's it's the worst combination you can do you want to you

going to blitz every down we're going to just do some stuff you know fans Joseph his first year

of the Broncos yeah we might give up 70 but at least we're going to have a chance in other games like that's kind of how the way you want to go go about it and so they did what they did you know they literally give up 70 no but I do think that that's it's not just the guys that they brought into you know Kale Downs is going to get a lot of the headlines like if their defense improves everyone goes Kale Downs okay but they get other guys like overshowns coming back from injury down of an

Ezra Raku is in the second year like they have more talent kind of already there on the cusp

“and I think that's why I just kind of keep talking myself into it even if like barrum the rookie”

um which is great as a russia and I used grains inside lineback now they have depth of positions that they're playing Jack Sandborn last year like and I like Jack Sandborn he's a badger but he's on the street for a reason right now and he was starting for this team last year so it's just those little kind of I want to say micro improvements but just little tear bumps everywhere that's why I just keep kind of talking myself into them over and over and over. I just want to clarify

it for the record um that advance was not there in 23 when Miami scored 70 points. Oh you guys I thought he was he was oh no yeah oh is he's not his head coach he was DC yeah yeah but then everybody wanted to yeah champagne want they want to champagne to fire him there he's like no that's my guy and now you you did good he's done good so I think that's a right call yeah it was just first year back because that's one of the strange it's not the same as Brent pride with

Virginia Tech where you lose the head coaching gig and you stay on his defensive coordinator I which I don't know if that's that very often but advance came back fickle did it um

“when the whole trip I think it was the whole 12 prior thing and the whole yeah the tattoo gate”

he was like a stop gap what yeah just do this that's the one I remember yeah um yeah I went with the head coach thing you're right first year back as coordinator so I guess I yeah I guess we do have to put that one on him alright speaking of Arizona that's good I have them as an over at three and a half I love that well I just yeah the NFL part of it look it's it's a tough schedule okay yes but I I'm doing a bad job selling this right now because I could sit there in

any any NFL team although I think there's like some Raiders years where like where's the talent the Patriots I think post-Bella check up one point you were like is this actually the least exciting roster in the entire NFL Arizona is not that there's a handful of guys that I really like and if you want to go hey the defense was bad last year but it was incredibly young you have two rookie corners they'll be better there's some defensive line names at least that we think with a little bit of

season they'll be better and the baseline of what you get at quarterback even if we both know that back at some point is going to start because they're not going to be good they're going to want to see what they have but the way this sport works like any number that's that low and I don't think it's like a catastrophically horrible all-time historically bad roster I'll take the over on that so it's three and a half I'm with you on that one I they had the most the second most adjust

the game's lost ever last year to injuries as far as like actual starters and playing time lost to injuries not just it was at every position too but especially on the defense they also have Walter Nolan who's in the second year if he's healthy like he's an all-pro caliber guy like really

yes he's already flashing it which that's always there's been a stick like if he's healthy if he's

playing like but if he is he's really really dang good they they also did I do think Michael Thor's decent yeah I know he's just first time had a coach and everything they're kind of a

“meme team where everybody's just kind of using a lot of the stigma against them and then that's why”

they're like oh that's why they stink it's the carinals they stink like this all the four can't do it's all they drafted a runback number three and he got hurt right away because they don't know how to do that I actually do think they have a lot more kind of glue and in between the hold them together than I think people are realizing and I think guys like Michael Wilson who just got extended even Marvin Harrison those guys are better schematic fits for this offense because

Michael Wilson's gonna get used a lot as a blocker as a motion guy a lot of I hate to I hate to use it but the poop in the cool roll but how Cooper Cup was used Robert Woods was used in that offense Michael Wilson's perfect for it and I think the wrong game will actually be pretty decent like whether it's love or else year so I'm I'm with you and I think the defense is interesting Nick are also pretty cool what he does I love it I love the over three and a half whether it's

love whether it's McBride who might be just the next best tight end in the NFL I think there's some grades I tell you from 25 that's exactly what he was the left tackled they spent a high pick on yeah and then you run to the D-Long guys including Nolan who you know is is the headline it was

just whole group and it like persets always that guy like he's kind of like the 17th best point

card in the NBA yep where you go hey he's pretty good it's just the position stacks all the two guards became point guards so like you're constantly wondering like how can we upgrade this win in reality and maybe I'm rounding up a bit there I'm upset but there's just too many

NFL people that have been like he's he's he's he's not like awful but you're always thinking

how do we replace this so we get to that next level all right he's yeah I mean the same tier is like Lake Career Kirk Cousins and people will rather you know the stigma or like the kind of reputation of all sure like I should say Lake Career I should say Lake Minnesota Kirk Cousins where it's like yeah we can get better but we also could get worse than this because he's at least competent to run an offense so we both like Arizona all right your next one I'll go bucks over eight and

half wins plus one 15 they bucks I've talked my more myself more into as the summer went along really did their online I did an article on all lines and I have number one I think at the very least around you have them ahead of Denver's I do Denver's gets helped out a lot by the scheme they have a lot of talent like there's a lot of good but I think like the high and I would take Trismershover bulls I got to take the senator like Graham Barton over those western burger I'm

trying to bring blanket on Broncos center right now but I would rather I just think they have better high-end talent and I just think the scheme helps them out just a little bit but I do like them I think they're number two I think out of them too but yet no I think the bucks will

line man and bucky Irving looks healthy like he he's always gonna have some nicks because he's not

“huge he's about a 192 anytime I run a bucks under 200 you're gonna I think you should think”

that they're gonna get hurt as opposed to stay healthy and but at least in the preseason they're running them in the preseason if they kept them in bubble wrap the whole preseason I'd be a little worried but they're like having them out there first drive taking care is my okay so they feel real good and why I bring that up is that the run game fell off a cliff last year so the old line got hurt that's the strength of this team is the old line um Baker gets a lot of headlines

I get it but it's it's the old line and it's the again that run game back on track mate that also makes Baker not as chaotic and not feel the need to scramble at a the more Jackson rate like you did last

year so getting him just feeling a bit more normal and just the receivers getting a little bit

healthy I know a booger already as a toe but I also just the defense like toddbles is toddbles like it's chaotic he can be predictable in some ways even though with the chaoticness but they have boosted

“the linebackers a lot which I like they got a trotter at linebacker um I think I mentioned this before”

but I I just like the db room Antoine Winfield Jr like I just I think the defense is going to be a lot better than it's been over the last few years where they've been blitzing and just having no effectiveness they have nobody that can rush the passer and now they got Ruben Bane and y'all y'all diave and they got some they got some juice up front so I've really gone for my dad I they're the best of the absy south to like more like I think they can win 10 games probably lose early in the playoffs but

I've been feeling a lot more bullish about this team overall I like to y'all be but I think it might have been just one game I was on a flight or it was the only game I had on and he just like absolutely lit it up I might have been a nine-year scheme then I just used like this guys ridiculous but 15% pressure rate last year anything above 10% is good so the rare guys are like 18 but 15 that's really good so yeah I a biggest question is Baker which I actually think is a good thing

like if you're talking about just the team not about contract extensions or anything like that but

“I want to see how he plays without Mike Evans and I think he'll be okay because I think the rest”

of the surroundings are going to be a little bit better than it were last year. Speaking of contract extensions I'm going Houston over 10 and a half it's just because of the defense and I just I'm yet as bad as it looked there's no way CJ Stratus this bad you could make an argument that own force possible start with Buffalo Cincinnati Colts Dallas three of the games are at home they're not going to start own four but based on the seven easiest schedule what's

that that's not easy that's yeah just be funny like they get off to a one in three which is totally doable on this they don't get to a lot easier they they cross with the NFC East not that that's a layup because it's it's two potentially really good teams in there but it's not like some of the other conferences at times or divisions at times or you're like there's not an easy out in the entire group they could get off to kind of a bad start and it could be completely

misguided kind of national perception about them because I there's just no way that defense is going to be bad they're going to be unbelievable and I just don't think Stratus is bad as he was last year so that's my own work with you I'm I'm super high on them all the reasons you stay at defense I think is going to be in the thing too is like lying back or depth is their biggest blemish at defense and they drafted some guys I like yeah they weighed wood as I really like

some I'm with there I'm high on the Texans I have them as kind of my AVC favorite I think I talked to you about that last time but I'm astraled I mean I had last time so Stral last year was a the 12th best quarterback in terms of EPA pro drawback and we're asking if he should worthy of extension that's the bad Straled now I know it's just EPA it's just not the one metric you can look at

guys get paid and I think there's a little gap I think in their numbers right now but I can't believe

“people are thinking that like this guy's not a cable quarterback I think he's better I think he's good”

more in that tier two range that are low end of the tier two range of what I consider that but man I think he's worthy of paying and I think actually he's going to surprise some people too

the problem is it's two things the last game was bad is it could possibly be

yeah and everybody watched it and then people look at that and go this guy's turning down 50 million a year and so it's all of the conversation right here I hear it nationally constantly and it's hard to tell like if you're sitting there doing a two-man radio show and the other guy goes are you serious like I'm supposed to say this guy's 60 million a year after we just watched but the reminder for everyone should be quarterback contracts like if you're in that top 12

there has almost nothing to do with how good you are compared to the other guys it is strictly about the timing of when the deals are available the agent is going to push for that 60 number because other guys are at 60 and Strauss deal is newer and there was a time where you thought he was the next guy look there was a golf deal years ago that people were like you've got to be out of your mind and it had way more to do with him just being up yeah he was just the next guy up these

gag deals have everything to do with Dallas not really doing a great job in timing this stuff they could have gotten front of it they wait they're paying him even more there is a very clear pattern that I try to remind NFL fans about all the time is don't you can't look at the average annual salary of like a top 12 guy and get worked up about it because there's 10 guys clearly better than him it's just not the way the finances work on those guarantees it's like there's

other little things the no trades the no no franchise tags like those matter more than a million and a

half difference or 500,000 difference or five I remember when I was with the Raiders in Derrick Car

“and Stafford I think both the guy extended back to back and that's before Staff how we treat”

Stafford now was different than how we treated them then because then it was like why are they extending him again like they can't win with him and that's but now we of course we talk about look at the cousin deals I mean no quarterback has played it better because Washington actually to their credit they were kind of like we don't want to do this deal we don't want to do all the deals that Ryan's referencing like we know you're pretty good but we don't think you're that good and

you don't want to pay you market and then it's like okay guess what none of these guys ever become available so now he's dictating all the terms he's getting renewed and all of its guaranteed the whole time so I think the cousin's example is a perfect like reminder of you may think the CJ stuff is crazy on the contract demands it makes all the sense of the world that they're like yeah that's what we think the number is right now in twenty six so we'll wait until next year it's this number

or the the abyss of quarterback you know wilderness like that's that's basically the that's all they're just deciding the sixty million dollars worth it or going into the quarterback abyss the fact that they've already offered fifty tells you that if it's a decent year from them then it's gonna be sixty it's gonna um yeah and now there's a part of it too with Houston where I would maybe look at them and give them a little bit of credit being like let's just make sure this isn't

a disaster that he's ruined which yeah they also have played a part in with this offensive line construction the last couple seasons yeah absolutely both over on Houston alright what you got alright next one I have I'll go I'll go commanders and I went alter six and a half real film I have two all wonders so just really the two two negative ones um I just this there's a lot of carry over from the Eagles conversation and their offense and the commanders

bring the new coordinator Sean Manion I'm not Sean Manion this time this is David Blau and trying to get to the legends Oregon State Purdue yeah baby Sean Manion I actually I kind of like been aware of him he's a random coach I just person not even just coach person I've been aware of because he was an Oregon State guy um Mike Riley was his coach Paul Chris's my coach I was watching their film like just random stuff and ties and anyways but uh no Blau who like you mentioned

was just plain was just a backup a couple years ago was just in the system quarterback coach is now they'll see they're trying to go a more pro style you know Shanahany whatever you want to call it which Jane Dale has done like he did that Arizona state but still I'm a little bit a little bit worried about how living in that world like where that's the major of the offense

“I think that they're offensive line of course losing their meat on so not fun um I was actually”

getting a little bit higher on the offensive line but they just kind of can't get out of their own way with injuries and also they have a new offensive line coach who just got promoted and he's only been a college guy and while I liked what he did in college at Florida especially when I uh scouted at a Cyrus Torrance I do think that that's a little worrisome the college to pro jump

for a line coach is his huge huge huge huge and that's always worrisome for me um just because

they have to install third-down protections they kind of just don't have the roll of decks that

made some of the other guys do not the same I'm not like the the whole like no college at all because just out on was only a college guy and became an NFL guy but I do think that's a transition period and now we're going with the first time O.C. in David Blau. If you're looking at the rest of the

“staff I know they boost up the defense I love sunny styles I think he's gonna be a star um and I”

do like some of the other pieces they added the DB rooms kind of beat up a little bit not not very high in DB room they weren't great on defense last year anyways so the defense I don't think can only get so high even if I do like some of the guys they added I just I have questions on the offense like I think living in a step on Dix Terry McCorr and world is not not the most fun one especially with a run game bird I think it's gonna be your shot weight at runback but I'm not sure so long

rambly way to say like yeah pretty kind of pessimistic about this whole makeup right now what about

the rumors of Kelly O'Brien Fresno State could be calling please oh I have never that not many

half um oh I was just thinking of like other quarterbacks it was there was a Fresno State contingency in LA recently uh with their they're poor showing against you with the uh yeah that was that put into to spot no one's gonna get that reference no I know I just don't even worry about it you just say by week eight you'll just learn to ignore them all Bob and weave all right I've got two more here okay they're they're they're straightforward I've been talking

“about it's the comp here of like the team could be better but I think the records were so I'll start”

with New England under 10 and a half I think they might even be better than they were and they made it the Super Bowl last year but the talent disparity and whether that's the Campbell

and Boat Drake may have hurt I don't know hurt at million times but I think both healthy

the talent disparity of what Seattle was and what New England was because when you started like running through the roster's you're like if you took the top 20 guys combined from both rosters is it 14 15 to 20 or Seattle's um you know I think I asked somebody like maybe 13 and he said it's like oh it's not that far uh it's it's probably about development with their own guys more so than it is like hey there's three players that we know are absolutely gonna be

better than they were last year so that's gonna work kind of where I'm out with it but maybe may is that good to just get you 11 wins because that's right with like last year yeah and I'm super high on May many ways they were hard for me when like we did our preview show and I think I guess 10 wins for them but but it was like a good 10 wins you know like it was like no it's like you say it's a better team there was thing that worries me the most is defensive depth like if they

have one injury it's like like in that happened last year but that's kind of what worries me more than anything it's like yeah I'm back around you they got some someone gets hurt up front I just they just don't have like a cool young guy that they okay we'll just drop this guy in or a contingency plan and then offensively I actually feel like they haven't had a cool young guy in the edge forever no they haven't they had they got uh they got one year or something last year that was like a

re-trend yeah but that was like that's a re-trend you're on the third team yeah yeah yeah yeah it's like when you're a baseball fan and you you just go hey can we develop an awesome starting picture that throws 98 who's 22 years old and like you go the next seven years are gonna be awesome like that's exactly more important than edge but it's just it gets so boring what you don't have like can you just lie to me and tell me this guy had a ton of pressures it Ole Miss gets in sex please

like yeah is there some underlying stack and look at so I can like go no no no he only is five sacks but yeah is her when or is past rush when or a pretty dang good I do like they have this undrafted guy like Elijah ponder they I think they're starting on this year it's a second year now but

“I like him um that if you want to have one guy that came maybe to keep an eye on”

I do like their offense I think their offense is gonna be sick if I'm be honest hey what about the big guy for millinoid though he's inside right give y'all is yeah he's more of a he's a friend of mine described him he plays like he's made of rocks and he meant that complimentary and derogatory but he's just he's heavy-handed you know just a big like muller but sometimes what's the ball go by him but he's not like kind of a bendy guy he's more like a pocket pusher kind of type more

probably better against the run that checks out all right we both have what you get two more I got one more yeah we got two more I have y'all he said uh all right here's my other alt under falcons alt under six NAF1's plus 130 the plus just 30 yeah moved it up one that's not bad yeah I know that that's kind of I know they're in the week division they're defense so they invested in two quarterbacks and one draft and the next year two address was one draft and none of those

guys are playing for them to start the year so I and pretty important to have some past rush I like

a 24 excuse me yeah yeah but he I know he was doing walker he was perfect for that defense too

“because Oberg does a lot of funky stuff up front and their defense coordinator so I third down”

so I know they can do stuff I don't know how they can live on a really dance I don't know how they can stop that run I don't know who can win and rush the passer DB-Y's they're okay like they have some cool young talent but still just kind of like not all the way there and then offensively offensively it's not bad it's aging but who's playing quarterback two is winning by default two sweetest words in the English language like he's winning and that's like why they're going

and I've seen two of this preseason and this is not the Miami Dolphins offense of the last couple years this is a different type of offensive system. The offense is going to be built through Bajan anyways Bajan Robinson anyways but still just a lot of stuff that I'm like I'm squinting at it's like this could go sour really quickly like I don't know if they're able to throw the ball and if they don't if they are trying to rush the passer if they do have a leader something like that

I don't know if they can rush the passer unless they have the blitz so it's just a kind of a team

“makeup I can't buy into and it's not like they can go oh we'll try out pennicks and I'll be like yeah yeah”

it's like sorry you know and it's still I have some reservations about that as well like if you look at the roster right now the only quarterback that can take a QB sneak is Jack Strand because two of it doesn't take them because the concussions and everything in pennicks doesn't take because he doesn't go understand or any of his bad knees so it's it just that kind of is my kind of like one line or about where we're at with the Falcons right now so I'm pretty pessimistic on this

year no QB sneak's take the under on that it's Jack Strand getting the start this year I I run I run I'm saying one start I'm saying he gets in there one game just look at the health of the other guys it's a bad back concussions bad I don't think there's any way he doesn't start a game this year he has to start they're not going to be good the tape from preseason you love him it was terrific it's too it's pennicks well I'm still holding out hope

unlike when the pennicks thing is right how beautiful that ball is I agree but it feels a little bit like even when you watch him in Washington you go so what's going to happen here because like if he ends up being on the team USA flag football team like we're winning the gold oh yeah I don't I mean columns worth who's been known to be excited about some plays but like there's a reason columns worth is almost orgasmic when he's watching pennicks throws because it's that much

fun and when I even remember being like don't say he's going to be good don't say and I kind of was like I think he's going to be like can't he kind of figure this out but God it is a lot of like I remember like the first time seeing some of the early spread stuff in the big 12 like 2007 2008 watching the person and I went oh this is why nobody drafts these guys yeah because because if you're just sitting back there like doing two heat drills and then it's like and if there's any

“anything goes wrong just throw the ball away there's no creation and the NFL you have to”

create a he plays like a 39 year old quarterback with like you know like he that's how he plays he doesn't scramble he doesn't move in the pocket like him and Rogers probably moves similar now in the pocket and that's not a good thing because that's only gonna get worse so that's what was

always my reservation and he for a guy that can chuck it and I agree with you because his his best

throws are up there and is I mean he's got a plus plus arm it's just that he doesn't really work over the middle either like which usually indicates you lack timing maybe anticipation because then it's more of a guy he's had such a strong arm his whole career I see it open now I can throw and the NFL is all right this guy's about to come open now I throw it and hopefully that that's where I hit the window with him it feels like like everything he has to see open and then he

then he throws up freaking rocket that's amazing but yeah I'm I last year kind of got me the the Vikings game I actually was kind of had the same feelings you did where I was like hey this maybe could work after I've been kind of low on him and then now I'm back to kind of like where I originally was where it's like you can't play like a 40 year old at 25 you know it does remind you of like the guy who's just old and there's a pickup football game because I'm automatic

QB because I've blown out all my is and he can't know 1999 you know that's where you have the Benix and marino play a lot alike marino 98 the other thing though that I loved about Benix is when Indiana had that weird start a few years ago when he was there again we're going back multiple years now they hadn't played anybody but it was Indiana and again pre-signetti where it was like hey look at Indiana they're out there battling he was an athlete and then he

develops into this incredible passer where I didn't like I understood the art talent all that stuff but I was like this is kind of a mess and I don't think they're going to be any good and the schedule's been kind of easy but it was just exciting and he was a big part of that and he's getting hurt all the time and then he ends up being the guy in divorce offense with grub where you're like okay this is maybe this can work even at the next level like if we're talking about my

first impression to him is a quarterback I'm like well this guy's never playing in the NFL to then

looked right but then you know if you're game planning you go every single thing has to be perfect for this to work out and that's already at a disadvantage all right my final one it's straightforward it's the bears it's under nine and a half that's minus 125 if you move it up to 10 and a half it's minus 210 so that's not really worth it the defense is not good the advanced stuff is better on the than the yard it's stuff so maybe but we know it's the toughest schedule and I the same thing

“is doing one I think they could be a better team if Caleb takes what I think will be the next step”

the stats may not show it I think it'll just be how do you feel at the end of the year I think we could feel good about this I just the turnover thing is historic plus 22 in the turnover margin if you go back the previous five seasons the best team in the NFL the best number on turnover

margin was between plus 11 or plus 13 and Chicago is a plus 22 last season yep first in our

section rate they were but then if you look at area under what you said underline stats aren't horrible horrible but this this kind of is it the first in our section rate 21st knee peer per play and EPA gets waited more on situations turnovers and everything that you know scores so you can have like a really big offensive EPA number but you can have some bad yardage numbers select the traditional offensive rankings can look bad but really the EPA speaks to taking advantages

kind of the big play stuff that we're talking about with Kevin Clark or capitalizing kind of on touchdown and field goal situations correct yes and I I really like more than anything I like success rate which is really and people think that's a nerd stat coaches came up with that and at at least the 90s I learned success rate in like 1997 I'm not even kidding when I was eight years old Brian Billock used it in Minnesota so because he taught my dad and so but people see success rate

they got nerd stat my freaking coaches invented this and success rate is 50% like more or less there's different versions but the one that generally people use now which is more EPA based

is 50% of yards on first down 50% of yards on second down and then all of the yards 100%

convert on third and fourth down so right first and second get five yards you know second and eight

“get four yards like that is what a successful play is and to me I think that's more sticky but”

there's more holes I can poke in this because then you want to expose the place to add onto that but success rate is getting on base it's on base percentage and that means I'm moving the ball successfully I'm moving the ball efficiently I'm staying ahead of the chains really staying ahead of the chains and I'm doing it over and over and over again and then last year the bears were 30th and success rate and they're bad against the past and the rush so that meant if you're

high in EPA 21st, high-ish and 30th and success rate that means you're taking advantage of big place turnovers you know that but if you're good and both that means you're doing everything well um this kind of continuing like when we talked about the bangles a couple weeks ago was that

Joe Burrow always super high success rate always middling explosive play rate and so as EPA can

kind of stay a little lower sometimes because of that so that there's a bounce like you want to get

“home runs and get on base and that's what explosive plays and kind of uh success rate are combined”

great explanation uh I love the success rate stuff I love that Brian Billock was you two just in a room they were like like we leave Maloney's eight you're last one last one I have the Vikings over eight and a half I also like them to win the division at plus 450 just because if there's a muck in the north or a muck in the division I think all teams are valid and I do think the Vikings are valid I'm going to bet on the one that's

that's the highest odds uh but I think the coward thing is going to work I I do I maybe have talked myself into it but I wrote an article to spring on it and I think that really helped me do it just I don't think people realize how bad the quarterback play was there last year like how bad offensive wine and tatters defense still a very good unit disruptive on a brine for us but coward since he's entered the league is 17th in success rate same as Justin Herbert he's

better than Aaron Rodgers maker may field jail nerds Trevor Lawrence Sam Donald Russell Wilson C.J. Stroud Bonex and people were going hacking like he's like the worst quarterback that's walked this earth and I understand do I want Kyle Murray leading my team face to the franchise you know hardest worker all that stuff now but to win games in a one-year rental mercenary role hell yeah let's do it strap up let's go and maybe this is again bring back to my late 90s Minnesota Vikings days

I maybe I just live in this world hey Warren Moon for Adjons and Jeff George all right now we'll go with Dante Colpepper I'm a role with him but I think they can I think this could be a very good offense like sneaky top 10 offense uh the run game last year is the best it's been under K.O.C. there's six in a really down rushing success rate which easily the best days had so good run game I love the Johan Jennings signing uh really good blocker like I know that's again this is niche stuff

you got a little chip on their shoulders where I think they're going to launch them stuff so

“I'm pretty yeah Vikings are another team I've kind of had some offseason pocket commitment to”

I just think Kyle is going to get hurt sorry fair fair fair fair fair that's very fair it's only played less two full seasons three two or three yeah look at at least there's something in there the old man genie thing of like we saw a season not that long ago where it looked like he was carrying Arizona so if you get back to that he stays healthy I just think he gets hurt and ways where you're like did anyone get hit on that play like I don't know he's down all right that'll

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“Super Bowl now if you want to go with the May Campbell combo injury or all of these months to prepare”

for this rematch that New England should be motivated and coming in I don't think there is good as Seattle and I think we saw that very recently um but I can't wait like I'm really thrilled that that's kind of by itself so it won't get lost all the traffic the other ones but YouTube TV has done an

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Bama so Bama not in the preseason top 10 for the first time in 17 years they had a rushing stat which I've talked about in the beginning of the show by myself how bad they were last year was the worst rushing season recorded for yards per game since when any time World War II was in

“the graphic and I think that's when they started collecting the records and that's probably not a”

good thing they ran for 227 the positive is like E.J. Crowell that running back is ridiculous his balance is ridiculous so they put up 48 on ECU by the way ECU fans traveling it was loud in there for the pirates. It was a watching that game I'm going what the hell like did they outfit some place to look like Tuscaloose and neutral sight fair man bought a bunch of tickets and it was a while of how loud it was for ECU so Kira gets the start you know all everything five star I think he was

only behind underwood in his recruiting class and I think because it's his first game you don't

want to put a ton into it and maybe he's playing because they still know that this offensive line he just might be more talented in mock which is totally understandable too but whatever you want to say about that first game he's got to get rid of football he is he is a very classic like I am so gifted I'm going to dance back here all the time and you can do it against ECU you you can if he is playing like that against the big boys I actually think it's going to be ugly

and I know every band of fan can say hey it's the first game shut up back off and you'd be totally right to say that but I'm I watch that entire game well probably I turned off like late third quarter. I watched enough of the game to see those dropbacks I was like oh this is somebody that's like I'm so gifted I can dance back here all play and not paying attention to their outs and I'm probably just going to run and he's such a great runner that's all going to work out but like

if the end of the year cannot look like that for them to be a real team no I I watched you back

and that was my first note I go they look sloppy in the passing game and the quarterbacks are eyes

were everywhere and I was my like kind of just a neutral assessment of it all and I'll top of it when they did succeed Ryan Coleman Williams is dropping the football um they had a drop wide open on the right side he had a drop in the end zone that could have been intercepted so we lost the touchdown it was off side so the play wasn't going to count anyway and then on the end around he drops the hand off so yep I know he had the one miraculous play where or mind if you were

like what is this guy but an awful debut for him on just stupid and they make mistakes they keep making stupid mistakes where they look like they're just not and I know it's post-save and so it's totally unfair for anybody but there's just a lack of cleanliness to their game or and I know people are going through they score 48 points they want 48 10 we're looking at damn it is

“hey is this a playoff team and that's why I'm going to be harder on them than say Louisville yeah”

it's totally fair too all right so talk about success rate and college you should have much juicer success rates and EPA especially if you're going against these Carolina his passing

success rate was 47 percent it can't be sub 50 against these Carolina like you're going you it should

be 50 percent minimum some of the quarterbacks we've been laughing at laughing we I should say the general football Twitter you know social media stuff those guys were throwing 54 percent success rates you know 56 percent and I even looked this up too was they had yeah their EPA without explosives was negative six and a half so when they passed the ball so they were negative points when they threw the ball that's how bad they were throwing the ball and you mentioned

him holding onto the ball the very first third down he's out of a forever the first third down I think he he makes a guy miss in the backfield and then he runs for like 15 20 yards he gets to get rid of that ball because that is that's a it's a hot read and they were by design making that guy hot so he has to throw and he just he was not throwing that he was like I just got to make this guy miss and it's like no throw it throw it that guy's going to kill you so yeah that was my exact

conversation observation I do think the defense does have some talent young's a peer the ever awesome he was awesome yes yeah he's he's he's the guy yeah but offensively they look sloppy I thought the I thought the quarterbacks eyes I thought his eyes were everywhere which is not what you want to see and not not people think sometimes it's close to coast usually that's not a good thing a quarterback goes left and then all the way goes right and then maybe goes left back that's not a

“good thing because you want to stay on one side of the field unless you have to or unless there's”

a progression working back and every third down drop back his eyes were going back and forth on concepts that ignore simpler concepts so yeah I think throwing the ball is going to be a struggle for them all season well yeah because first impression it was like wow I view this guy looks like he's just wanting to play see I times the reason I wanted to talk about this is because I watched the highlight shows and they would show his he's spectacular there's a reason why he was this

highlight he's insane how gifted he is and so when you see the package of all of that you're like well here we go and I'm telling you if you watch that game you're like I know this scored 48 but again all right um I'll try to be a little more rapid here do you have one for me is there first impression first impressions yeah well we're going to some 20 27 QB first impressions we'll start with the guy at the top not just alphabetical but archmaning I thought he was good

I thought that's exactly what you want to see I thought the intersection was explainable actually I thought the design on it um I don't know if you if you saw it but back side safety ran over there there's supposed to be a route that captures him and nobody captures him who was a stick not concept so I was one of those were the design and the quarterback are both that fault there

but I thought he's throwing because he's not expecting that safety right never in a million years

as I got supposed to be there because he's supposed to be captured by a route so you're supposed to you and then you see the touchdown he has in the second half they run us similar concept that same safety it's they call it a post safety he starts working and then arch looks them off

“and then throws the they throw an in-breaker to camp Coleman I think it was um but that that's what”

it's supposed to happen because you're supposed to capture him and if he cheats over it then you punish him but they had no route to punish him they just ran a fade and I think maybe it's because it's too many or something like that but anyways but what I'm saying is the interception was explainable more than like that was a dumb play how could this guy be the number one pick kind of play um I thought if we just go down I mean I could just go out with this I thought sellers look

good don't they more hey by the way real quick on sellers like they're missing sellers a slot receiver I believe that they expect to start he's gonna be out for the entire year I'm not worried about South Carolina's weapons at all I know it was not a great opponent but there's South Carolina

always feels like they've got a handful of guys they can throw the football too and even with sellers

not lannours the other one out because it was a concern something you were reading about like hey that's a big loss there weapons wise with the on South Carolina and still didn't play in the game by the way yeah I know and I was that was the other guy was trying to watch this morning but yeah he that's everything you could hope I thought even the sack he took it was like it was good it was a good sack he stepped up and it was like it wasn't like him bailing in the back of the pocket which

is something I did think he improved upon last year I kind of got I know he took a ton of sacks but I was more than a line Dante Moore was a little underwhelming and again it was kind of the things that you shot it was 378 I couldn't believe that when I was done with the game I'm like he threw for 378 totally shot yeah it was a little tight end maybe it was because you spent like two hours

I didn't feel that way when I had all all my thoughts were like kind of like private notes some of them I was watching that game I was like and he's giving the ball man like tried there

“like step up like me so yeah I'm right there with you but that's why that's more concerning”

for me is that was my concerns going into the season was pressure he kind of likes he favors the outside so I wanted to work over the middle when he's there's times where he does work over the middle when he's comfortable with the concept and you could see it even this weekend but still I want to see that a little bit more so that you know just some hesitancies there like I think

he pressure really gets to him and that's always a red flag for me so I just want to keep my eye on that

Drake Lindsey I thought everything you go for if they were to have their way yeah he's a horse man he's drew blood so we're reencarned it like I mean that's how that's how I feel about him I'm really high on him uh Mestmaker was a little underwhelming I haven't watched that one back so he was underwhelming I could say I'm a 28 guy anyways and then I haven't done a Mestmaker take it take it okay okay yeah I had a very contentious draft for quarterbacks to see how many

we drafted so I took Drake I took Mestmaker he laughed me out of the room on Mestmaker laughed me out of the room but he hasn't seen the rice tape I don't think so man he's a weird Mestmakers we like a more than he does yeah I he's a weird feel for the game like you know

“one of those things you can't teach he's just no set of layer of all but again that's why I kind of”

kept him at 31 as opposed to like 15 or something like that my big board because I was like I could see this maybe not get better but I could see this also getting better with more reps yada yada so he's still a question mark for me he's gonna be 28 guy I feel like I should just like say that and just like keep him out my big board for now just it's personal now I'd make sure so I have to keep the best thing in the whole thing um I feel like the seller's game was another example though of

like the people that love him like I mean I cut something up that I'm going to send you where it's just a simple like him getting out of the pocket but then staying with his body like parallel to the throw and you're like oh this is why the people freak out about him but then I also think there's some easy misses with him that I think his detractors would point to those in the same game where they're pulling up a ton of points being like hey this is why this guy is an

first round or this is why because I've talked to people like you guys are nuts about sellers like

“he's not this you love him McShay loves him I think mench likes sellers even more than McShay does”

mench who does the podcast McShay who I've known for like 20 years and in love because there's a crispness even with more's underwhelming game when it's right there's a crispness the crispness two more I think dude some of those chambles throws last night that first one to do's

that they did an incredible job of McRoy explaining like he's throwing to this window against

this cover three and he knows but it's like blind that ball is in front of the corner the receivers behind him I love chambles the anticipation right like would you agree there's a crispness to a Trinidad to a more that maybe even with sellers that doesn't and maybe it's because they gave up I think the third most sacks in college football last year no I great there's is if I were sellers again we're talking about room for error or anticipating the throw and everything sellers has the top tier

arm so he knows that he has more window to get rid of the ball but they NFL you don't get that so it still has room for improvement where I see it and this that I think is where you kind of feel it I guess is it's a classic example like watch their feet listen to their feet like sellers

always has an extra hitch if you ever notice he goes 12345 hitch hitch as opposed to just one hitch

and that's always a that's scary because if the guy doesn't have the arm that's those are picks all day in the NFL so that's where you see like Jackson Darts got that going on right now little extra hitches because he's got to see it a little bit so that's where you see the crispness watch chambles 123 ball freaking out and that and he's got a good arm so it looks even better because he has a good arm with anticipation what is right with Trinidad man you're like I

sky by every red flag with him I don't care if he's old I don't care if he's small I love him I love him I really do I really like Trinidad chambles a lot oh yeah then we very meant that had a nice game as well but that was kind of a seven or seven but he he looked at everything you hope like if you if you are high on him I'm comparing him to kind of Kirk Cousins a little bit chambles my comparison's Jeff Garcia hey if you if you were driving off if you told the team

it's sitting at 10 hey you're gonna draft Kirk Cousins you'd be like you don't trade up you know like we'll take him at eight right all right so off of that and Dundrum after that I think I have to the connect with that because of men's in that game I feel like I heard it on a handful of games this year when a receiver made a really sick play there can be a little conference bias there

in where some announcer says that this other receiver is the best receiver in the country and I

“heard it not just about Malachi Tony I heard about a couple others Malachi Tony's the only receiver”

we're all allowed to happen during a broadcast because again we know how special he is I can't believe that he was a freshman last year because he plays the game like he's old too right that one score we scored twice like you know like you know where he scores the guys hate each other and they looked around on the sky I got but he did so calmly like he's like yeah I do this every week hey does he remind you anyone I mean I'm been some Peter work and some Peter works one of my

all time just okay I'm telling Peter work stories my favorite thing ever but then Peter Peter just didn't have the NFL career so no one's everyone's gonna want to be like well that doesn't you can't use that guy when Peter was probably one of the best college football players I've ever seen in my entire life that's sugar balls like maybe a college football fan I fucking love Peter work yeah but that's who that's because I'm like people are gonna say Tyreek for whatever but they're different

it's just a difference to have the big for Tyreek is yeah well Tyreek's only like one well

“Tyreek's real stout he's like five ten one ninety um I think two like Tony's frame is bigger”

I think Tony doesn't weigh as much as I thought he did I at least listed I think he was like one EDA when I at least I could be wrong this could just be me on top time I had been wrong but I don't know what I'm gonna find right now when I look him up here you're right I'm 11188 aka baby Jesus see you know what I'm okay with it I'm okay with baby Jesus right adult Jesus would be potentially okay mom over again this is right you know Dante Thomas um Stanford on the other side I hate

Stanford sucking at football I don't root for Stanford necessarily obviously even some connections between Stanford Steve and other alums esteemed alums that have shown up on some trips from like Jesus Christ this crew uh shout out Tony but I them sucking and also not being tougher smart drives me crazy and I hit up Steve I go what happened and this is year eight they've been in the ACC for three years but they sucked before the ACC thing this is going to be eight years

of them sucking and at least when they weren't great because they obviously they had a bunch of years

were they were great you always knew Stanford was gonna be tough out because they were gonna be smart

they're gonna be tough and the tackles were gonna be good and there was gonna be a bunch of tight ends and they were just going to do stuff that sucked to play against and maybe they don't win 10 games but it's now they are like a door mat and I hit up Steve I go what is up with your tackles he's like well they're both backups in their first and second start ever so they're not even supposed to be the guys and these guys have never played so that might have been part of the issue

but they don't even look like a power four team and I hate that I hate that it's been this long because I just like when Stanford is is good because it's for whatever reason like their whole concept and their identities of football team it's so different when it was good and I just enjoyed

them being different than everybody else old school kind of pro formation stuff hey we're always

gonna be smart up front and I'm ramping and raving here about maybe the worst team in the ACC so I'll stop no it's I get it it's like you like there's some of those not the power houses but maybe the ones that you can always hang your head on okay Iowa I know I'm getting with Iowa you know every time I watch them every year I know I'm getting with Iowa but they haven't had that dip they've they've dipped to maybe no I was just great run but here we've been

hovering around 10 wins get into 10 wins eight nine ten shut up wow I mean my my what's gotten but Wisconsin team I feel like I'm always country spirits with Stanford because like when we had a nice run late odds they were going they were that was the Andrew luck all that too as

well so I always just feel like we played somewhere styles we watched each other's film a lot

I know that for a fact so I always I'm gonna agree with you when it feels like they're not the ones where it's like okay they might not win this game like they play a team USC but hey they're gonna make it a one score game and it's gonna be ugly and they might have a shot in the fourth quarter but now it's like by half time it's game you know it's like just not even making the second

“half's interesting and I so I think that's maybe where your frustrations lies that the second half's”

are dead for Stanford now I even look they're a win probably in that game they had no shot I don't think they even jumped above 75% in the entire game they hate the probability on this show just oh no just a little one no just we hate win probably so oh you deal with it well reference it at times but oh by the people just do like look at the grapple like that but yeah but if you wait the team came back we've had a shot that's when you kind of know and with the the win

spreads baked in it's like oh that team never shot the win and to be fair to the boys out there it's a form you know this this is a complete overhaul after a bunch of bad years so pretty obviously I've got a package last year but they're trying to figure it out I like their quarterback to be honest with you another man and meet you guys you see Andrew looks fit do you like his fit

so unfairness again they're trying to overhaul this thing on the fly but I just and I'm not even a Stanford fan I'm just a college football fan watching them get trucked I'm like this is just wrong this shouldn't look like this I have one quick one and then maybe a little longer one because I haven't even talked about that Michigan game yet so let's finish with Michigan together but I have just an aside it's week one week zero week one and I already cannot stand like 90% of the corner backs

on Saturdays you can't be doing the seat belt celebration after an in completion when you're down 40 fucking points man number three for Clemson Elliott Washington you can sit there and say hey

“this guy's staying in the fight if you want to spin it positively I just don't think you can”

be getting humiliated Matt Rouge on the Saturday and turning to the sideline after an in completion now he looks like he's pretty good like he looks like he's a pro I don't know when he would be drafted and like that but all Saturday corners that have I mean the corners have the accountability of F1 drivers every single in completion and most of them have nothing to do with their coverage they're over there lock it up the seat belt thumbs down into the whole thing and you're like

dude it was he threw it out of bounds because of the past rush right like stop it's out of control I'm a former quarterback so you that you're not Swiss my arm here it's my least it's been my least favorite things since ever in corners over reacting to an overthrow or not usually an overthrow for me but you know I miss past our pressure or something that sort of saw I'm right there with

also the lack of a regionality was celebration sometimes like when you're first starting to see

bell okay it's cool it's like when camward got big everyone's doing his you know everyone's doing that and it's just like come up with your own stick like that's cool or to missy belt thumbs down thing it's like they got all got together they unionized and were like we're only doing this happened overnight it was I mean I happened a couple of years ago but it was like everyone just started doing but that's the thing but when everyone does it that makes you I don't know that's the

“saw I think the things of well if everyone's doing it shouldn't you want to do some different”

making self stand out I don't know I just think they all copy each other celebrations and then I mean they're even gonna have the the new rule change for the first down stuff someone got popped last week it was like how and all this time can't you think of a new first down signal than that and if you knew it was gonna be a penalty you know if you're doing the guns or anything like that so yeah I'm I'm with you let's talk about Bryce Underwood that was

an interesting game I think in the beginning you've got Todd Blackletch talking to Jordan Palmer who we like a lot on this pod who worked with Bryce Underwood it said hey last year was a disaster

was his feet and then at first driving even McShake tweeted it out he's like here we go

right it's footwork all this stuff and I don't know if it's just the footwork but then I started looking for it and then when everything started falling apart I think they were over five in their first five third down attempts it wasn't even close then he had one due is left it was like a third and three and I watched his feet and his feet were terrible and it was into the dirt and it was there was no chance and I'm like okay but is it just his feet he had an interception

that was out of bounds on a third down throw that was a disaster idea for him to do he had another pick that could have been a pick six because there's some dudes on western Michigan that

“can fucking play defense by the way some really good players I think for them being in the fight”

all night long and then he had stepped out of bounds and that was a terrible throw there was a

third and like five in the middle of field he had a receiver I think on his left side it was like

he was trying to pretend that he wasn't looking only at him but he was only looking at him which is the Bryce Underwood whatever you want to talk about with his feet he doesn't look at any of the other receivers so he was even it looked like he was trying to get off what his primary was but he couldn't and then everybody's watching him in the defensive backfield and it's a car crash as soon as the ball is out because everybody's closing down because like we know exactly who you're

going to throw it to and then of course they put the second back on which I know is unfortunate but I listened to the 911 call that they released and it sounds like these guys get a ride even if everybody still pissed about the whole thing and he hits on the Hail Mary and then he's running around and I'm like this makes it so much weirder because he just had an awful game after an offense that looked terrible last year and then I give Michigan credit it seems like they're

handling this with more of an open mind as opposed to hey we won the game on a Hail Mary from our guy with all this talent so everybody back off it doesn't seem to be the message coming at an arbor you know a Kyle winning hands quote on Underwood job security it's not something that's infinite at some point we've got to turn a corner and that's not that's bold man that's basically saying it's wide open to me I mean that's just saying we're looking at all answers

everything you're bringing up is what I see and I know how highly talented he was I'm willing to wave away his freshman year because it's just everything going on in Michigan but I even when I watched in my last year I was like okay he's a great athlete I see that he's big all that but also I could tell he's thinking in a pocket and and again freshman totally won't

seven times as much money as Kyle or Murray who is making right now who's making 1.3 million this

year but I really watch him it's that he's always laid as a throw on throws because I think

this is a guy again learning an offense or what I've seen with guys learning offense or having struggles learning offenses is that they hear the play they get the play call and blah blah blah trio right blue sword X dig and all they hear in their head is X dig all they so all and I always like I don't know with other kinds all I hear is that one route that got tagged and again this is

“just me just context clues but that's what I see when I watch him is that it's a guy that's not”

comfortable with the whole concept of a play which again for a guy starting so early it's like well hopefully he was learning something you know the spring he's probably in all the first team reps but to me it just looks like he's beyond the able on every drop-back when they limit to a one or two man route like a play action or something you could see a little bit more where he can actually like okay I'm fine the throw is because it's so in narrowes down his reads and when I

watch him all those drop-backs every third down is an adventure because his eyes like you said he

doesn't want to stare at the one or that he knows or the route that he knows should come open on that play it's just now there's a lack of feel and this is kind of the it's the opposite of the master maker where master maker has a weird feel for the position I know the last game wasn't like that but these other guys that I watch like even you know arch or something like that they move in the pocket they have a feel to get a guy open a feel to like look off a guy just a

window layer a throw in underwood looks like he's just it's like a lift every throw is just a rocket you know every throw is got because he's thrown it late and he knows when he's thrown it late I got throw it hard and yeah it's a trickle down effect from there but I I've watched enough for a year and I've been nothing but underwhelmed when I've watched him I was shocked at winning him that

“quickly but that's why they brought him in and then you've got what Tommy car behind him”

you know cars who's four from the depth chart for Michigan tell me I actually do but

I don't expect you to know it no I do because I was looking after the depth chart yesterday do you use herb street yes yes yes I didn't know that yes I did because he didn't go to our house that you went to Michigan that's right well it's rather hard for me was working out with Lane Kiffin that's right yeah all over remember when Terrell prior said that herb street was a fake buck eye wait and he finds this out man we got two Terrell prior

references and one one shell the Terrell prior undoing was was in your home base then Pelinion the sideline for Madison that's when I said VP at Wanda's that's right now was we did a show and and then we watched for all prior in person for the sideline and after a few series fan pelter and it was like so he can't do it huh okay not very good JJ Watts break out game that was that was his big break yeah like three sacks that game or something like that just

absolutely abused them no that was that's my favorite game ever definitely not they it's one of my favorite game that I'm listening to oh opening pick off taking it to the house was like yeah right it couldn't be any better yeah I know that was thank you for letting me reminisce that's that was my fear and then we played I will a couple weeks or a week later and that was a barn burner too that was an awesome game too so that was

not as a highlight probably my call to life and they rushed the field and there was a kid I don't know which program he was affiliated with but he was kind of just putting his arms out to the side and he wasn't commanding a ton of authority and I remember Van Pelwalked up to him it was like you're doing the best job you could you could possibly do and the kid just kind of kind of looked up through his coke bottle glasses and it's just like nodding thanks

that anyway that'll do it for our show today thanks man thanks for doing this and looking forward to next Monday when we have some NFL to talk about all eight tights every Monday there's something for everyone when it comes to recess we talk about football a lot right a lot of units two units with a peanut butter cup peanut butter and chocolate hell I think sometimes I could just eat the peanut butter but I'm glad the chocolate's there as well is really

you know like let's not kid ourselves here uh there's a process there's tradition it's been around for decades these two components trust each other but the reason when I talk about it being some kind of tradition I get a bunch of products into my house in the script and so let's say something about why Reese is my favorite you're thinking well he's just saying that because it's an ad but here's a true story I get my products in for me to do an ad down in Manhattan Beach and my birthday

box shows up for my father with a package of king size peanut butter cups he knew that if I was ever going to splurge and allow myself to have something like that that it was going to be Reese's

“peanut butter cups because that's what we used to do sometimes he'd make a split one with him”

I got a little bit older I was able to just hey you're on your own one for you one for me two cups of peace this math is way better but I was laughing because I had this bag of product to

with something that tastes this good and is a treat he knew the exact thing to pick for me

Reese's the official candy partner of barcel sports go to Reese's wherever you shop you want details bye I drive a Ferrari 355 KBLA what's up I have a ridiculous house in the south fork I have every toy you can possibly imagine I'm best of all kids I am liquid so now you know what's possible let me tell you what's required like advice [email protected] Kyle and serity here I guess we want to do a little story time so

should we not I don't know how we're stamping these should we call it Kyle time and then I just

“read intro life advice I think it's just part of life yeah I don't I don't have a ton and I'm”

apologizing about the voice I almost wanted to think about silence today I was in a drive through last night I had come back from the airport and the lady could not understand me my wife was laughing

so hard shout to Taco Bell for getting us through that you know always do not you think it's

because you were hanging out with 20 Dominicans and you were just starting the final cow was 8 to pass while that included two white guys the final cow was 18 so yeah and one jibbing how many whites total two me being one yeah I think we fit in really well though yeah you know we we could a little you're a little Spanish in you we couldn't get to the Airbnb for a couple hours so we went to a restaurant and these guys like brought dice and they're sea logo and out at the

tables I'm like all right so we're we're the we're chilling great I got I can do this no fights nothing like dramatic like that I did miss judge where the shallow end of the pool was but I wasn't kind of came down on the slope there that was tough yeah that's a scrape that's a little scrape yeah I'm trying to think what else what else really happened I guess I are still Scottsdale we did I did pop in a bar so that was probably my favorite place I thought

it was gonna be a little bit I asked big cat like what to deal is with it and he's like he's a big cat I did I did I did I didn't ask him to come hang out with me there I just asked him what to deal is and he was like a famous thing like going there it was great it was awesome

“what were you hoping he was gonna do I made a call get over there right now that's what I was hoping”

we bailed on golf we did top golf instead a bunch of guys in the morning were like yeah we'll do top golf it'll be easier we were actually on a golf course though and they were fucking golf balls flying into the like the pool area it was it was kind of scary but like these guys I just didn't

want to have a bunch of like a couple of four subs of first time or so I was like all right we do

top golf we said we sent it for three o'clock perfect then they bring the fucking dominoes out and it's like like wiped their brains they're like dude we're playing dominoes I'm like I just booked two days at golf top golf and they're just like sorry so three of us went the lady felt so bad for me at top golf does she let me cancel the other two days but that was good it was a fun time and then I guess just going out I really felt inadequate in my fashion sense I kind of felt like

“Ryan was bag lunch like these dudes were trading shirts and clones and nobody wanted to trade”

with me that was a little bit of a bummer but like these guys were pulling out like 500 dollar dress shoes and I'm here in my fucking LL being shirt and some it was gonna say the Dominican quote for Tommy Bahama gear is high but I only brought the Tommy out once but I just like they had the iron's going and they were like swapping shit and like clones and I thought you know I have a D.G. light blue guy I thought that's something these guys were like snow or near expensive enough for me so I

did feel a little inadequate in that department but sometimes you just gotta be yourself yeah we'll get you out fitted with a higher in column I like it I like it I just didn't even realize like that's like not even a starter for some guys but yeah it was great those guys those guys were fun I can't wait for the wedding I have a couple follow-ups okay on the bar stool thing you texted me too yes just you yeah and I was a little more forward with you I was not forward with Canada you can be as

forwards you need yeah I need that's that's our relationship and I knew exactly I got the text I knew exactly what was going on here like I'm 20 deep I worked for bar stool they did give me a discount on the check though I had my way out I was like if I worked for bar stool anything happened he's like oh sure oh there you go you didn't really check me out that much I was like I need to email I could show you my email if you want but she was like no I have trust okay I'm not like tons of

bags of everything there though not oh yeah yeah that's the red so I didn't even batch of parties

for penis straws I'd be the place yeah penis straws I told you to text mincey that was my only response because I know what you wanted you wanted out there too you wanted to be able to tell your boys hey I work here and this is a home base and like we want the corner spot and we want to do all this and you know the whole deal and I don't have any there's nothing there like I do you asking me I was like I don't that was kind of the part in the day where when I was

at the frolic room I just started firing off phone calls so the fact that I only did that was minor miracle I think it was fine it was totally fine and I knew where your head was at I just

knew I didn't have a solution for it what was the big cat what just basically asked him I'm like

I'm in Scottsdale I just drove past his place bar stool Scottsdale what's the deal with this place I had a bachelor party there's 18 guys 16 to many it's probably getting a little rundown and he completely fine requires yeah and he just gave me the you know what it is and I was like I'm not even going to reply to that all right okay good what he send you a link to the website now you just told me yeah it's like yeah I was like is like are there guys that work like what

what is this basically is the edge of five isn't the franchise like you know they pay a fee to be partial scots forever yeah okay but they took care of you felt did you feel a little special because I

“think that's what all of us would want you just want to be able to tell your boys like I got this”

yeah yeah yeah but they felt a little special a little bit yeah okay it's all we're looking for safe yeah I will say the the weather thing was like done the Friday after we had slept there like noon like not why are we here in in Phoenix Scottsdale just why are we here now so there was a couple of times we're at the heat was a bit oppressive desert in the summer stuff I'm shocked at places that popular

I've been there in the summer and I just go I know there's other ways to live yeah you're like the opposite of a snowberg yeah but people that live there are love it like they absolutely love it and I but then I'll ask about you can't there's love like three or four months you just can't be outside in the middle that like you just can't they love the drive you joke dude's love that one yeah I think we're there for a final four maybe like years and years ago and

“that's how it was there two years ago for fun it was a principally hot in April I was like okay”

interesting I remember I left the hotel to go for a hike it was a little lady her and the guy was like no he's like you shouldn't go and I was like no thanks man he's like it's too late in the day and now you're like the sun's going to be down on the backside of like where you're coming and I went yeah if I were a nerd maybe that's that's you're not the person that's out there but the thing is though is that if it is dark

and you turn your ankle you'd be sitting there with the coyotes until soon enough yeah yeah exactly Kyle the Rattlers okay get some life advice stuff for you here um you know what somebody just checked in and we'll just keep the message out there audience continues to grow so case anyone ever missed it the countdown method Ryan's Teeth Kyle I'll keep it short the countdown

method while lifting is a game changer it's allowed me to further my gains I'm now finishing

sets more consistently thank you to the email or and you guys for mentioning this way back when again if you don't know that's counting down instead of up I just I had it happen to me the other day right I was my mind was telling me to stop eight to one you know it too it was like hey we're almost done this is awesome and my mind was shutting my body down I wish I didn't know how to count just for the gains but he's pretty good with English but he just like he doesn't know how to count

he's in a dope although not being able to count and doing this would probably tell for some of the stats stuff but just 307 9 and a half nine or just I didn't you know I don't know how to count because like if you're going 10 9 8 then it's 8 just go 12 11 10 start all over again and you'll be shocked

“how often it works you should try to coin that remember like curve would Richard Lewis was trying to”

coin the blank from hell you know on the Bartlets thing maybe there's maybe there's a way we can just get your name attached to that before it's totally everywhere maybe I don't know I thought the problem is I'm so used to it now that that's what I the next step would be on learning the order of

numbers so I would never actually know just not even counting yeah I just I think it's such

it like I'm not to get like humor man on you but I just feel like it's such an everyone unbelievable human yeah yeah I know I I'm not even knocking the guy at all I just the science of the mind to when it is anticipating being done how it will decide that you were done before

I don't think I have a book out of that though all right let's get back to what we're better at

“um my friend is lying to his wife five eight one seventy no Jim stats player comp Travis best”

old friend Travis best I'm writing you guys about my friend this comp Craig who I just found out his lying to his wife about his past just some background in my I'm in my late 30s and have a very tight net group of eight friends since elementary school wow including Craig eight deep from

elementary school including Craig so we basically know everything about each other um the other

day we're in a barbecue together we're the wives and kids and all our kids are playing together and the yard someone made a comment about Craig's kid along the lines of that he was big compared to the other kids and bowling some of them over while they're playing soccer together Craig's wife let's call her Sarah commented quote well yeah what do you expect both his parents are D1 athletes though we looked at each other confused until one of my other friends asked

what she meant by that she matter of fact we said yeah I played well see if anyone's listening to this and she you're giving us the exact quote and the schools aren't changed um I played let's just make them up I played lacrosse at Marilyn and he played basketball at let's save her mom these are like like yeah okay yeah yeah this Marilyn's a good lacrosse school right yeah and this is a good lacrosse school okay but she went to and you know Vermont's good but it's not

it's not Kansas it's like a safe bed if you're gonna lie about yeah no offense to my my people

“back in Burlington right I better but yeah right I think the school that I replaced it with I think”

they're equivalent schools look if you're still playing D1 basketball anywhere the amount of people playing basketball I mean you're if you're playing D1 basketball you're fucking good it basketball okay again we looked at each other flabbergasted because we all know that Craig did not in fact play basketball at a D1 school nor did you play basketball in college or even attend the school they oh my god no layers a blooming onion of lies no one said anything to

Sarah about it and the subject got changed I mean he looks at part of the basketball player about six three-ish is actually a very good pickup basketball player for guidance like 30s but he barely played in his high school team and certainly did not play in college and in fact there were

always questions about if you ever graduated college at all you got you guys got to think of

buddies that you were like 15 years later they go hey you know I never graduated not 15 we had a buddy and he listened so what's up uh just the guy was like sleeping everywhere and just was like

“still around going to classes and wasn't in roles um I love he was between schools yeah that's how we”

cover so we describe school he's the five yeah yeah yeah yeah he that's the same guy um let me look at the lectures this week it's easy you've opt into my modern rush of classes great um yeah he we we weren't sure like a good five years after if they diploma like I think he had like three credits that he just like didn't finish and we're just no everyone's kind of afraid to ask him so they just didn't and we just all assume that he probably didn't and I think he had to go back and get it but yeah

I guess it got we got resolved eventually but 15 years is aggressive I think we had one that we were like wait like no one had confirmed I was there was plenty of people that were like did you actually ever had in see my their whole age buddy you can't get away with that though you know like they're

people checking I guess I've never really loved I don't know if they want they want transrips like

they have to send it over from the school maybe if you're going over like a bank or something I don't know I have one really ridiculous reason why I didn't walk and I don't think I'm going to share it okay yeah I should have I should have won any sort of pleasure it's funny it's actually really fine but I'm I'm not going to share it and then I was so disappointed myself I'm like you don't even deserve to walk you know and then I'm not sure my father believed me and then I'd diploma showed

up in his house because I was a year ago and then I grabbed that for me it's awesome when I saw I was like I actually did graduate that's well all right so back to our guy here I'm not sure if it came up again and we told the I'm not sure if it came up again and we told the truth that she would probably be embarrassed and probably met a Craig and maybe even cause marital issues for them I question you guys is should we have told his wife or did we do the right thing by saying nothing and

the grand scheme of things it's a pretty harmless lie but still pretty crazy that his wife believes

what the council thinks about this thinks in advance I would have kept my mouth shut and I would have made a fucking bee line for Craig you'd be like do what the fuck are you doing and I would have probably brought it up and yeah if there's a quiet corner somewhere up totally like you are a maniac you would have quite cornered on the scene totally I would be like looking around for them but this is how you keep that in yes if I found out that everything I couldn't wait just a fine break I mean you

would same day this yeah oh yeah if he's like within walking distance it would be there and soon as I can be there I yeah I'm not making a scene like there's no guys like you're drinking you get a little animated this is exactly right yeah I'm not I'm not making a scene but I'm talking to my buddy but you might be making a scene not thinking you're making a scene because how how casual that that's not a casual conversation I'm not saying I'm making a new line but he's obviously

not in this group of people that's all like uncomfortable so you know did you just say you're making a be like maybe I meant like maybe like a z line or something maybe I maybe I'd zigzagged to me yeah I'm not gonna spike my beer and then walk like me conversation but I'm gonna like next the next free moment I have will be to find my guy I'm scanning for crack and figuring out how to get over there quietly but quickly normally I like to think that you know if you get an issue with

somebody you care about you know like figure it out right figure it out like get over that

“tough first few minutes and the reward will be there instead of the talk shit I think in this case”

I would just talk shit about him to the rest of the group and be like that's insane that's insane it's so insane that I don't even know if I could say anything to him about it I think my opener is

you're crazy never gonna forget this also your wife tell people this you might have to think about

a solution all right do you think that's not like a threat I don't think he can ever say it that's a wild lie how is it not he got out yet either like it's the first time oh my god I was proud of the sacrifice like the whole workers other family friends like this is that I would be paranoid living with this lie also because she's also he wants like she probably cares about max preps or whatever like she might be interested like how was he in college like how is she

never looked up just to see her stats right right that's kind of strange just I'm sure she

“will appreciate sports stats yes he must have like that must have been an important thing to her”

he somehow knew that and then lie about it and there go yeah you know I'm also with you one athlete and then you're in this lie and then you're just in it until you have kids it's crazy like you

can never go back on that lie right and I guess there probably is some sort of stats that

she's limitations from she'll still probably love you but like what you know are you like 50 years old you're like actually I have something to serious it's tell you honey like I actually what but I don't think you can tell her I'm glad you guys didn't say anything I don't even know why you're asking us that like it's not your role to be like actually he didn't even if you guys have all known each other since you were like single digits which is a wild scenario that

you have eight core guys which is great so I mean you know in a way it probably feels like these are your brothers more than they're just your friends because we know each other you're entire lives but if he told her that what you clearly did the problem is is like what if the kid ends up being good and then she's going to all these things and again this isn't like you know the try cities where you're on basketball reference being like what league was that in 1938 like

if you're in your 30s shit exists yeah so there's going to be some real confusion why 17 years ago there are any stats from I mean we're not even talking like 2006 2007 that stuff should

be should be able to find it and she's never looked and so she may introduce like say the kids

in junior high at some camp and she says oh you're gonna meet my husband he played it Delaware was that the one making up schools yeah I don't know man this is why I said this this lie would that would eat at me I would be so paranoid I just want to know how he's dealing with it like what have you been doing does it ever come up but there's the I can't believe you wouldn't confront your buddy like there's no way I'm like saying anything friends and tell

I'll try to make up this marriage or yeah I'm not trying to do anything but like I am absolutely letting him know like hey do we know and this is insane yeah but I don't think it's any of the friends to have like a ruling on it you want to make fun of them you want to say yeah that's a

“thing but I don't I don't think it's your right to be like you have to do something”

no this is just a hey we know yeah like eyes thing and you're a legend bro yeah

it just started off as like this probably this innocent lie and then it's just like become this thing that you can't like come clean on right like who knows if you knew who's going to marry this this woman have kids with her and all of a sudden like on the first statement you can imagine one one that's great yeah and it's just and here we are however we're gonna use like it's a good team Robinson skitt it like it comes out at like a nice like kids birthday credit skitt he just

will never write a staff pile that's really good keep it great at that I mean you want to tell

me that guys in the 90s weren't at the cascan flag and saying they just got called up from the Pau Sox yeah yeah like you know but chances are you are gonna marry somebody I mean you guys are making a great point because it's like imagine you know this tall drink of water is over in the corner and she's like had I played laksit john Hopkins he's like oh I was at Kansas State

“you know so okay state for those few years ago it's gonna be like no way you must have been nasty”

you know like I saw you on TV here yeah you know basically it's a one and done so hard time remembering that yeah it's close but I think you well it's got to need actually play there so I don't have to

worry about whether or not play there at the same time but yeah I mean guys say stuff but

to then end up being like oh I really like her oh I'm gonna get engaged oh married and now kids and that word of barbecue and our late 30s but you think about the web of this like her parents think that he played yeah college like her friend tells you friend he played in college her friends boyfriends and husbands think that he played in college that is terrifying to me one person finds out the wrong person finds out you are so fucked god i know imagine her sending him videos of

Dejan love who like have you seen this crazy story about this Niners receivers it wasn't on the Niners

“these sitting there he's like well you know who knows what he's going through yeah I think taking a side”

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of an in-game strength guy even though all of the fallacies play dn and rugby eight man pickup comp kings or clippers been Simmons congrats this acumen of kings are getting been Simmons in-house I'll try my ass off and swing it up for the cardio benefit but a typical physical guy just putting a shoulder down and going strong with his left but enjoy passing that's all I got then I go dream on set screens tight defense diving for loose balls just ruining 40 year old

“guys afternoons I feel like I know this guy ready what info now when I think about my crowd you're”

probably not a fan that's fun I don't know can you ever really get bad at hustle all right but here's the deal I'm a fifth year senior uh will leave the school out big ten school typical bro like Ryan at UV 2v um sure you got that a group of friends that I would go to the bars with every week I'm going out 25 deep but we're all seniors last year all my friends graduated well I'm the guy that switches major late in his back at school for a full fifth year I have my own apartment which is very nice

you've been living in a drunk mess for three years but I am here at school all by myself I have my

works at the local basically only popular bar in campus which is caused me to get banned that's not what caused you buddy come on you told us all this information you think she's just

“that's why you didn't play the cotating it come on what happened I had a situation where it was”

like the one spot and then I wasn't banned but it was always uncomfortable but it was always a little

icy sure I do with that but let's banned so you must have done something to do then I brought five words to get in trouble in that structure come on she didn't have a good shift that night all right which is crazy and really stinks but it kind of helps me out just to avoid potential issues but I packed kind of lame what got to check the time on this email just the gents we're going on all about it's just got to turn away from the bar is walking home

it's like I gotta tell right about this I don't think he means pack like yeah I don't know kind of lame but hey I got the time I've always been a man trial with big shoulders and big hips I keep telling myself this is the time you understand yourself work on you test yourself before you are out there in the workplace or genuinely no one else besides your family gives a shit about you I know I need to go through the struggle of pain and understanding myself but it really

sucks it is a boring cycle of consistency lifting ball FaceTime with friends I'd love any advice to a guy in my situation it feels like they are under achieving based on what they expected themselves who have already done I've started a blog about college ball because I love

“that not even going to bring it up for a plug because that's how much of a damn gentleman I am”

but I'm 23 years old living on my own for the first time and trying to learn about myself for the first time I have three older brothers that are great with advice and also massive fans but I know you experience the extra years in college yourself I'd love a quick recap on the advice you guys like me because I don't think the Netflix guys know oh I hope you have a great Labor Day I also don't want to bring up the go-to you are going for so I'm not going to say anything

about it not a go-to you are still like it you know it's that look I think there's times where you should look bad and then when you clean everything up it's like it's improvement you know yeah I use to do it like I raise the bar sometimes yeah that's the jackass area I used to let my hair when I had it get kind of nasty and gross and then you know you get to get the town on a Thursday with a fresh cut like who's the yeah I can international student from Sweden no

oh it's Ryan okay well look I would say like the the simplest advice I could give you is

“and it's the same thing kind of you're going to think that one year gap is like 10 years and it's”

really stupid and it's a waste of time and even though it's different all your friends are gone which sucks because all my friends actually left the exact same time and then I didn't want to like hang out with the younger guys because I felt like my time was over I probably should have just

hung out with the younger guys but there's always this weird divide between like classes especially

but it's a fraternity thing where you're kind of like well I haze that guy so like the relationship's never going to be the same um and he probably thinks the exact same thing about you and then there's like a moment where it's like actually this guy isn't that cool that's older than me and I'm as cool as he is and then fuck you and then there'll be like a younger guy that tells you to fuck off he's been waiting to say it to you for like four years and then he says it to you

and you're like oh I kind of have to eat that even though it doesn't feel right with this whole hierarchy that we have here there's nothing like actually brothering up after a pledge and then the older guys are like there's nothing worse than a pledge except for a new brother Neo fights are even worse and we're like oh great so I went through six months of shit like there's to be treated even worse I couldn't hang out with the college yeah it's so rigid I don't know

yeah because I've never been like I can't believe we're actually going to the house the first time

as brothers we've rolled in and all the old guys are like get out of here we're like isn't that part over it's been the whole time and we got like in trouble so this went on forever isn't it supposed to be fun now and I'm not supposed to be looked down upon it's like no it's actually going to be even worse here like oh this is where do I send my check so I'm just you're gonna when you're 27 28 all this bullshit's doing in your mind because you're experiencing all this stuff

the first time which you have clearly pointed out and accurately assessed none of it's going to matter you're just going to be like why can't I have just been thrilled that you know you're going to get through school you're going to get your degree and dude you're 23 the other guys are 22 it's not 30 and 15 here just you're you're clearly not going to go out as much which you've already stated and there should be times where you allow yourself to still enjoy that part of it without having

all of these bullshit like restrictions in your head because there probably a lot of younger guys that do like you yeah you don't want to be sitting there like showing up to meetings every single week being like hey were we doing with the gazebo you know like I understand like not wanting to do that I didn't want to do any of that stuff I had a six year that was living with me

he's like I have nothing else to do he's like I have like 12 credits the next two

semesters I don't care like I'm going like he went full into it he also had a death in his family that like cost him kind of a good chunk of his senior year which I totally understood why I was doing is like I want to make up for all that time because my senior sucked I was like you know up great point so look I've kind of said it all here but just none of this shit none of it matters

“though all of these anxieties that you have about what you should or shouldn't be doing no one I”

know you're carrying it around you feel like you're wearing this jersey that says I should have

been gone already yeah just don't look at that way and just because you will regret kind of this self-inflicted restriction yeah trust me later on when you're 20s you were like well I kind of just relaxed about this whole thing I was going to graduate like I'm not a moron it changed my major I'm good you know don't worry about it I don't think there's anything wrong with tightening up

“your last year in fantasy land but that's what it is so like it's it's it's all going to be like”

here he already knows it's going to be harder but like then you won't be in fantasy land anymore you're taking his punch so like I would I would definitely try to find the balance you know you don't have to focus on like being fucking Batman you know be like eating rice and whatever he's trying to do to like make himself like build his future while he's still in the right time like you don't have to solve it you can climb you don't have to live like Batman dude it's fine

“and you're at a huge school that's fun you know like this is a massive school they have”

great sports like don't don't deny this because of some weird thing that you had and I totally understand what you're doing because I did it too and I kind of regret it yeah I don't have much added and like can you use this year to like better yourself too like can you like if you're you're weird about all these other things these college things like going out and whatever you feel like you know belong and I don't know if I don't find a hobby like golf more I don't know like

start figuring out something I don't know get it really into AI do something like that's going to

better your life in the wild you haven't had three games or yeah you basically have like you know

a get out of jail free card here and like you get a year to do all this stuff and learn and do whatever like you don't have to just like rage and act like you're you know van Wilder you can be in normal dude you know pick up some hobbies and that fun although van Wilder did seem like he had a pretty good time he didn't have it again yeah I didn't watch it okay yeah I actually didn't watch it all right that'll do it for the show

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