NBA MVP Arguments, Plus Final Four Storylines With Ian Eagle and Getting Ready for the Masters With Jake Knapp

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most states void an Ontario restrictions apply. Bonus bets expires seven days after issuance. 4-Ditional terms and responsible gaming resources see sportsbook.draftgings.com/promos limited time offer. port. It's a part of history and you want to make sure you're thinking about everything here. I'm not 100% sure. I'm probably pretty sure how I'm going to vote here. I want to go over the 4 candidates because it's 4 of Cade were eligible for this. You'd probably be my fifth

“place vote but I think it's pretty clear that Joe could just zest GA. It's Wemby. It's Luca. It's”

not that or necessarily but I'm going to go through the cases. It's going to get a little numbery here and then some factors and then ultimately what I think might happen has opposed to how I may vote for it. But again, I'm not 100% sure. Get on this. So if we start with YoCitch, he's seventh in scoring. He's first in rebounds in assists. Okay. There's a will note of did will do it. Did he not do it? I'll update on what that is a little bit later because

I looked it up this morning. On did will actually lead the league in rebounds in assists. The way YoCitch is right now. From a metric standpoint, YoCitch is kind of off the charts again. Some of these numbers are the best of his career prior to that Miami injury. He was on pace for like in all time advanced metrics kind of season. I don't know if he would have sustained that for an entire 70 plus games that he probably would have played. So, you know, at that point,

“I was kind of looking at it going like, man, I think he's going to win it again this year. But again,”

it was really early. So the box score plus minus stuff, he's always off the charts that it's

plus 14. His usage is at 30%. He hasn't shot it great in the last two months. So I watch a lot of Denver games because I just love watching him play. I don't know. He's always a little more reluctant than I think we all want him to be pulling it from three, but I just don't know that he's as comfortable with that the last couple of months. And I would say if I get a little nippy which I have to to separate these four guys and kind of really dig in it all this stuff, there's probably a few turnovers

there late in some games that speak to some of the clutch numbers that I'll get to as well where, you know, I just would rather not see those turnovers. SGA's second scoring is 18th in assists. Not going to get on this case that he's only a four-regounts per game. It's a point guard.

That's not really a factor here. His metrics are again incredible. His box score plus minus

is at 12. The usage is at 33.5. That's a healthy number which you'd expect. It's not like historic necessarily off the charts and he's the thing that makes it go the best team in the NBA. Wendy is 14th in scoring, fifth in boards assists. Again, we're not going to worry about it with him. It's passing fine, but he's not going to have the totals. Blocks per game is at 3.1, which is actually the lowest of his career, but he still way ahead of chat is number 2 at 1.8. His

usage is at 32. His box score plus minus is right around 10. So really healthy numbers from him. Luca, your NBA leading score 33.8 points per game. Just a tenth of a point off of his career high

about eight boards a game, 23rd in the league. His box score plus minus, kind of more in line, Wendy here, plus 9.4. Some of the other advanced stuff is not at the level of yokek in SGA. His usage is at 38% which is seventh all time for a season. So when I look at some of my standards for this, you know, I've told myself, if you have a vote, like try to sift through some of the free throw production. That's not really going to be the case this year

for me. I think if I had been a voter back when hard and was flying, I don't know that I would have been as aware of it or as in tune. I clearly we all saw what was going on, but this is one of the issues that I have with some of the free throw merchants is that you are going to be elevated to a

“level historically that maybe it's not where you should be placed. Having said that about some”

other players, I as much as the SGA stuff and Luca stuff can drive me crazy on certain nights. I still think these are two of the four best players in the world. And, you know, I've no I've talked about this free throw. I just don't want to get bogged down on all the free throw stuff. So it's something that I would think about every year's a voter, maybe how I'm placing some of the players were like, hey, I think that guy's really good. And he's obviously had a great

year. He's been really productive. But I think so much of what he does is based on the way the game is called and why the officials keep doing this. I have no idea. But I'm not really going to being SGA or Luca for that. So that's the decision that I've come down on because I just think we all agree, even if you don't even like the players and drives you crazy on a certain night.

“I think you have to appreciate, you know, all the other stuff that is incredibly special about”

all these players. If we get into the defensive box plus minus stuff, this is where he can get really weird. Luca, I think when he's into it, is a good defender when he's not involved. It's kind of like the Westbrook stuff or Westbrook on the ball was like tenacious. And then as soon as he was like, just didn't have the attention span to pay attention anything else that was going on and then it

would lead to mistakes. So I felt like Westbrook because of its athleticism, a lot of people like always

really get defensively. And so like, I don't know about that. I would rather have you be in position and understand than be really hyper aggressive and then have zero interest whatsoever in the team defensive concept when the ball is somewhere else. SGA is hunted, unless I say a Joe is in the game, but that's more because what do you want to do? Hunt, Lou Dort, Jason Wallace, Caruso, one of the bigs, you know, in the standard point card center switching stuff. So SGA gets hunted.

“I don't think he's like a great defender, but I think if we're going to look at SGA and”

and Joe Kitch and I know, Joe Kitch has all sorts of clips that are out there, but then he has some metrics out there that say like he's terrific defensively, which I'm like, okay, that seems a little crazy. I think Joe Kitch is in position, but he's not exactly scaring anybody when you're going to the rip. And then you have Wemby defensively that is basically changing what kind of value

I'm I'm putting on defense because I still think that he could never score and it's not like a

really go bare thing where he can't catch any so good defensively that it's still kind of worth it where Wemby is I think at just another level right now, maybe beyond anything we've ever seen. So the defensive box score stuff is it doesn't really tell that great of a story. Yo Kitch is plus 4.1 Wemby's at 4.0. So like one of my supposed to do with that number, SGA is at plus 3.0. Sometimes there will be players where you're liking this guy's a negative defensively

and the rest of the team has some good defensive players that can be really alarming, Lucas at 1.3, again, not going to freak out about this thing. The box score plus minus though, now I know that some of these numbers get shit on my people all the time. When you pull up the career leaders in box score plus minus and Yo Kitch is number one right now in NBA history

first career but it's important to point this out is that those years are being like calculated

the non-decline years. So Jordan's number two all time LeBron's third magic fourth David Robinson fifth, Larry Bird's sixth. So these are heavy hitters. So whenever these numbers get kind of dismissed they're like yeah well look up who all the greats are and then see where they rank it's like oh it's all the great players. There's some really friendly rankings for David Robinson historically because I wouldn't put him necessarily in this class of players but Jordan to speak to the decline

if Jordan who I was looking at up again like the fact that he missed his 35 36 and 37 year old seasons is just so disappointing. You wonder if he's ever just like that was stupid. Like well I would have done that but he came back and played for the Wizards 38 39 years old and that drag down

in comparison to Yo Kitch so Yo Kitch towards the end maybe that number comes well the number is going to come down. I don't know to what degree if he ends up being number two or number three all time. So I think based on this season and looking at that stuff like that's something that heavily heavily favors Yo Kitch. On the assistant rebounds thing let's get to this wilt note now because I've seen it brought up that Yo Kitch is going to be the first to ever lead the league

and rebounds in a cyst then I've seen that actually wilt did do it. Here's what happened is will

in 67 68 was second in a cysts per game to Oscar Robertson but he was number one in total assists

“because wilt played 82 games because that's what he did in Oscar Robertson played 65. So from a”

per game thing if Yo Kitch ends up doing this it'll be the first time that it's ever happened. Let's look at some of the clutch stuff because this does not paint a pretty picture for Yo Kitch as we know the nuggets for whatever reason this year have been a bismal in clutch situations just awful numbers and it doesn't make any sense because for many years because of Yo Kitch they were always good even when you didn't like the team as much and so if you

look at SGA's clutch net rating he's plus 26 all the OKC numbers are terrific because they're the best team his usage goes to 44 all you have to do is even just watch this week and realize like what he did in that next game or every single thing was on him to figure it out come back close out that win the come back against Detroit was all him the two threes are because three defenders are

“all over SGA it's top coming down hill jayman Williams to the left side cruiser later on to the”

right side and he's just a nice reminder that it's like even as great as this OKC team is the on ball creativity especially with jayman Williams just trying to get back and then not even playing the Detroit game like it's just like hey SGA like figure it out every single time and he has the

free throw as a part of it but there's also a lot of other stuff that he's doing that's incredible.

Yo Kitch on the other hand for the season in clutch situations is a minus 11.5 net that's an astounding number that it could be that bad it doesn't make any sense the turnover ratio is a little bit higher than the other guys luka's net rating is terrific it's plus 32.5 when he's is a little bit lower than you think it plus 12 usage wise oddly luka's is down significantly for where he is in the regular season in clutch games where SGA is just at 44 usage rate that would

no one's ever had that for an entire season in non-clutch right so clutch can get skewed a little bit here the shooting numbers the OKitch is 23% from 3 in clutch spots if we look at SGA you know he's at a much better number 35% luka's numbers are better shooting a little bit later so the way I'm landing on this right now because there's a Wemby defensive thing that is just not showing up in these numbers is I still think I'm going to go SGA yo Kitch Wemby and then look

a fourth now the standings are always brought up it's kind of I feel like the standings are coming

“up more and more I think it's why can nipple there's advanced stuff that tells you can nipple is”

the obvious choice over Cooper Flag I think Cooper Flag is tasked with doing everything for a really bad basketball team where he's playing multiple players defensively he's basically playing point guard and I think his traditional numbers are strong enough where I may lean Cooper I also think the recency part of this where it's like can anyone do anything here down the stretch where like if Cooper Flag had 49 points like he did a really into season only these last two weeks then I think

that would really influence the voters they're a ton but I think the voters are going to prioritize the Charlottes in it and playing real games even though kinnipple has a much easier life his rookie year than Cooper Flag does but I think kinnipple is going to win it because the advanced stuff the standings and the priority that I think a lot of voters put on all the standing stuff which gets us back to the MVP because I've seen like the luka push where it's like wait a minute

look at this Lakers team it's not that great they're going to be in the three seed I'd ask anyone on the luka push this like if you're really focused on standing so you focused on luka standings ignoring that SGA and Wemby are way ahead of everybody else then standing still matters much and if standing's matter because you don't think the team is as good because look the Lakers aren't as good as those other two teams and luka's doing all this stuff and by the way the

Lakers were fantastic last night luka just another casual 42 just beat up on the calves you know calves team you're like hey they've got a lot of sizes that can expose so the Lakers weakness is not even close wasn't a factor at all they ran away with this game I felt the Braun played really

Lakers back to back is tougher than the Lakers than luka not playing the night before I don't care like sure fine it's a factor but that was that was a bit of a statement game from the Lakers last night

“but if you're pushing luka because the Lakers are a three seed and this is where I think like the”

seed thing gets really annoying it's like there are three seed or this teams of five seed it's like sometimes these teams especially right now in the West are separated by like a couple games Denver who's one six and a row is two games behind the Lakers if Denver caught L.A. and it up being the three seed would the luka push people go all right yeah now I'm going to give it to you it's your course not you pick to you for the MVP and then you'll just change the argument

around the entire time I do wonder if momentum boredom all of these factors that seemed to influence voting if we'll get a result where it's SGA1 because of who he is all right and what he's done this here and how consistent it's been and then a Wemby push because it's newer and it is yoke it

ended up third or fourth is like I even was toying with the ideas like is there a way because

“you know another thing that I would want to do with the voting is that if I think if it's close”

I want to reward the player who I think is the best player in the world and I still think that that's yoke it yes I said I still think he's better than SGA but the award is about the season and I think there's enough of a gap from what we've seen in the way SGA is just controlled all of this stuff on offense to just close out so many of these wins and I'm not even talking about like the heisman moments over that shot or that shot I mean it's supposed to play like 82 of these

all right so we shouldn't let like a moment be the defining reason why somebody's going to win this kind of award but if it were SGA and yoke it's like neck and neck I may still go yoke it's because I'm like look I think he's the better player and I think the way history is tracked it's important to pull up basketball reference in 20 30 years from now and see where you finish in your MVP to like confirm your standing in the game at that time but if yoke is where to end up outside of the

top two it'd be the first time in five years and SGA winning the MVP's the headline but I wonder if

they'll be a bit of a boredom push some of the clutch stuff if it'll end up being a women yama being new and being recognized for that or kind of like this full circle luka like this is why this is why this guy carried a not special Dallas Maverick's team to the MVP finals in 24 so I'd probably lean right now SGA won yoke it's two women yama three luka four I wonder if the media will end up going as I'm a member of it but if yoke it's ends up falling

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confer details he has been the voice of the tournament and the NFL for CBS for years I was looking up to resume again we don't know you some of the stuff doesn't even go back but of course part of my favorite NBA broadcast the net's broadcast it's iron eagle how are they what's up Ryan great to see you man yeah it's great to catch up you know we've I don't know we're not like buddies or anything but there's been a that distant pay how's it going over over one time I first guess started boss

wait a classified by like you know we're not friends but I don't want to overstate it with

“your power now your position in the industry that's that's what it's but the reality is we go back”

a long time I feel like whatever that stretch of your career was when you started out I was there with you I don't know why you randomly picked me out to to have on as a guest at that time but I

convince yourself like oh no we're close we know each other in a way you just talked to me so I was

“like I think I got them I think I'm just going through the blue book that's like oh this guy's”

he has no two kind of yeah you're right though and it's funny that that NBA blue book that had cell numbers on it or whole numbers on it it was as if you got the Bible that you could reach out and when I was producing radio we would play hotel bingo you would just try and find anyone that would pick up their phone in a hotel and I remember very vividly calling the Cincinnati

Reds hotel and I asked for Chris Sabo's room and he picks up on the first ring I said hey Chris it's

iron eagle from wfn radio how you doing he's like what I said yeah it's iron eagle wfn radio how you doing he said I'm I'm eating dinner I said oh what do you have in some Italian Chinese he's like what I said well you know we're hoping to have you on the show how he rose as the host is like ah call me back in half an hour and I did and he picked up and he came on the show so there was little victories that you would get were were enough to carry you to the next show oh it's such a

win man it's so funny that you're saying this because like again for the audience there's this blue book and this book comes out and it was like this holy grail I mean as you said it's like this Bible for what I don't know do they still do it they put everybody cell phone numbers and oh it's okay it's not that there's more sense there might have been some stocking charges that were were out there that maybe they said hey this isn't smart I remember before the drafts and this

is like oh three oh four oh five and I'm just going to that thing just dialing up people right but I'm dialing like local reporters because this was like I was trying to figure out a way to

like get more information yeah I'm never figured I called one team's beat guy I'm not gonna say the

team I have no idea what he was doing then I before but I call and I'm so naive which was perfect because I was like I needed to be that delusional back then and I go hey you know my name's Ryan I worked for the Celtics radio station and we're doing like a big draft show just I was like I was just wondering what you think like what they make due what you know at number four number five and he's like oh and he's like he's like actually like shuffling paper so I'm like oh I think

I get he's like oh yeah he's got an info for me he's like man I got no fucking idea

“we respect honestly and yeah and this business do you remember the last time I asked you to”

come on how funny I don't know if you remember I told the story so maybe you've heard me tell it because it was just so funny I think I think we might have had a miscommunication because it was leading up to the first final four that I did and I think I squeezed in an NBA game in between the I want to say the opening weekend and then leading into sweet 16 a lead eight regionals and I'm in Boston and we had a really nice conversation and I think we were talking

about all of like these different interviews you asked me like what's changed what it's like I've been doing all these interviews which is great and and very cool and then you like through when at the end like yeah but you'll come on my show it's like oh no I'm not gonna do that and I was joking of course going your show and then I realized like a half hour later it's like oh man I wonder if he took that seriously because I thought it was a funny beat after I basically

said I was doing everybody's show and that later I was like yeah now we try to get on and I'm I'm like oh no no no no no dude but it's okay it happened the way it was supposed to happen well you were so busy that I felt bad and I the way you came out and that made for you that might have been part of the issue that that I was bitching a little bit that uh oh yeah I got all these things lined up and and by my own standard I do try to accommodate because like you I was in that

boat of picking up the phone calling people I always have some kind of visceral feeling when someone

texts reaches out and says hey can you can you do my show can you do my podcast I really do try to

“do it so I think in that moment I felt we were sympathic and obviously anytime you need me it's not”

a problem the delivery and I should be aware of it at this point after listening to you for

up because I was like well I'm not gonna want you after the final four yeah you went exactly why why would you want to talk to me after the final four but this this whole experience in in sincerity has been very different than what I thought it would be but then reassuring that once you get to the game you do the game so all the other ancillary parts of it and that's real you know that Friday practice you're not really watching the teams practice at that point they're

out there they're just shooting around anyway they've already done their their serious practice but the amount of college basketball media that's there the amount of people that have been in and out of your life at some point or another crossing paths that are there it ends up being almost like a receiving line at a wedding in the best possible way but I didn't know that

until I showed up that first year and it hits you your your synopsis are firing on all

cylinders because people are just popping up and you're doing your best to watch what's going on out on the court and make sure you got the names right the players right but then I just quickly realize that's not gonna be part of the experience so take it for what it is and go lock yourself

“in your room and do whatever extra studying you need to do but it's not gonna happen there.”

I love the regional finals there's just something about them because of what's at stake because now the final four I don't know if you agree with your disagreement sure all four of these teams are trying to win a national championship and raise the banner but you're still especially for some programs it's not like these programs are hurt necessarily but there's just something about making it to the final four like coming out of that region and so I think the mood is a little

bit different too because there's almost this like delay in the first final four game of like is this actually real like it just feels super tight you just see kids kind of like missing shots there's almost this unsettled first four or five minutes of like the final four

games that's great but I've always thought to have that call to have this have it be due have it be

you can you know a lot of people you'd have to be pretty old to think of redemption from the

“latener and in in 1990 which I thought it out because I remember I was at the mall and Connecticut”

when I shot went down but to have that moment and it haven't feel new again when you've been doing it this long take us kind of through like that moment where you're maybe even away from the shot and you're like I can't believe like I'm now this part of history yeah you know what what's really interesting is you bank all these games and I've done literally thousands of

basketball games on TV and radio between college hoops NBA and you never know what sticks with you

and what resonates and you also never know when a mistake actually is something that helps you down the road so early in in the NBA run I definitely called more than once this is for the win and ball goes through the net and there's point four left on the clock and now as a play by playing answer for me at least I realized okay that was an accurate and that bothered me and I probably made the mistake two or three times and you're just a little bit over zealous in the moment and you

say to yourself at least I did that's not going to happen again I'm not going to do that again and it's probably been 20 years since that happened and it's not simple obviously you're you're working with the clock and exactly when the ball comes off the tips of the fingers and your processing in real time what's going to happen of all the things and it was a chaotic sequence that's the

“one that that I think back on and say that's just a ton of reps and being in that situation”

over and over again that allows you to make the call clean and feel secure in what you're saying and how you're saying it the part that you don't know in the moment is that it would be historic because I'm approaching it Brian with the idea that Duke's gonna toss the inbound there's 10 seconds left they'll go for a steal they won't get the steal and they'll they'll fail and now

that's really where my brain is going and from a play by play standpoint those moments you get

“to reload you get to actually organize your thoughts because there's a dead period everybody”

exhales and there was no exhaling the way that that whole series of events took place you just had to be in the moment and look I don't go through this exercise anymore having done this job for so long it's not productive to now go back and say man I wish I could have said that man I should have gone with that doesn't matter it's it's done you get one shot you get one opportunity

your M&M that's it the thing I've always got appreciated about you is that like I'm not sitting

here and like I don't want to turn I'm not going to name any names but like sometimes I'll be like hey you're giving me fourth quarter finished stuff in the second quarter like I can't I can't have that yet like if you're this high in the second quarter then how are you gonna match if you get this kind of ending then I think there's some that like really want to put their signature on the moment on top everything else I do always kind of wonder like what you're looking at

once the shock goes through you're probably looking at the clock first but then you look in at Charlotte looking at early is there something to be said of like just tell a story be

understated but have the emotion at least match what the the moment requires

I think so I think there's no textbook way to do this and if you talk to 100 different broadcasters they might give you 100 different answers as to how they approach it I know we get into process

“and process is such a a personal thing I would never say this is how you have to do it”

somebody else may feel a completely different way and it might be highly effective I think in those moments leaning on being accurate is probably the part of the equation that you can live with for the rest of your life so even if you don't have the perfect phraseyology but you nailed who touched the ball each time and more on it as it happened not after the fact but on it as it happened and if you do have something at the end some kind of exclamation point that can

button it that probably has been more the formula for me and yeah voice inflection obviously comes into play and then also just being in the moment because the goal is to mirror what other people they're feeling you can't lose your shit because that's not good that's not going to live on well for a national broadcast local it's different I get it and obviously having done both for all these years I do know the difference there are people that might say well now just be the

same it's not it's not the same your audience is different expectation level is different but

“that moment deserves something that meets it in some way and that's how I've always tried to”

do it not to overwhelm it not to become the story but can you accompany what to place and then I think good calls often the line blurs and maybe you just get connected to it in a manner of speaking college basketball in the regular season it's not what it was when we were younger I think there was even some concern you know my position was kind of like you know there's so much going on

that you would never want to pitch this in the meeting of like hey for college basketball at least

we have the tournament right like big Monday's not coming back like just you know you just never operate that way and anyone else invested you're just telling us that all the regular season stuffs over but that's the way that it's felt and then I think there was even some concern about the tournament just going like hey there's just not enough long-term stories in this sport with all the one and done's and yet we're unlike a really nice run here for college troops again it's

far more tournament related maybe even conference tournament related the NBA I would say like alright so we're going to compare the tournament excitement to the tanking stretch of four weeks of the NBA season in March and April that doesn't seem wicked fair but you know these conversations are kind of happening right now and considering how long you've been with CBS and their investment in this tournament like where do you think college basketball is I'm not saying rank them but just

it's clearly on an upswing but you know maybe some insight into people that actually make these decisions and broadcast these games the three things that have struck me and and really resonated with me

three things stand out in this current setup within I.L the fact that you can have an Alex Cariband

who in the previous iteration of college basketball would have turned pro after his second or third

year the people around him would have said hey it's in your best interest to now start the clock and I don't know what would have happened after year two or year three probably would have been a second round draft pick and maybe he gets a two-way deal in the current NBA and gets a chance to prove himself financially it would not have been a boom by any stretch and I'm just using him as an example but there are a bunch of Alex Cariband's around the country that may not be the

prototypical this guy should be in the NBA but he's a really good college player now because of the setup he can make money and in his case he stayed with the university others have transferred but they're making money and they can develop their skills and they don't have the two-year flame out of G league team to G league team a Dalians in Europe he wants to come back Alex Cariband has now cemented himself in Yukon history and college basketball was better off for it the level

of play has been better because of that because of that scenario players that would leave after year two or year three they weren't ready or they didn't have the skill set to play in the NBA but they remain at the division one level and they do something with it and we see better games more competitive games because of it the second thing Illinois unbelievable example they've leaned in to not just getting a European player they've leaned into European scouting recruiting and development

look at their squad they're in the final four they have five Balkans now this is not yeah we got a couple guys here in the air they help out no no no no no their team the core of their team is this

group and obviously wogler is terrific and they never anticipated I don't think him being this good

“I think they felt they were on a sleeping giant with him that he was a late bloomer and his game”

could translate it's really very slow motion what he does I set it on the air and I know the second you make a comparison to a player everybody jumps on it and I didn't mean it as this is who he is I just meant it in the style in which he plays in Kyle Anderson can somehow get to his spots and you watch him and you say I don't know how he gets there and wogler different kind of player but similar vibe in somehow his movements are so unique that he can get to where he wants to get to

Illinois is all in on the European recruitment process and it's working and I think you'll see other teams now really lean in heavily and the third thing and I didn't know if this would happen Brian but it it has when we figured out that the transfer portal was going to basically be free agency

“because that's what it is it's free agency and college basketball I didn't know if the tournament”

would lose a little bit of its luster because people weren't seeing teams develop they weren't seeing a group really grow together at a blue blood and my first instinct was this might be rough because now every year you're reshuffling the deck and and people might now clock out and zone out of yeah man this is a completely different Kansas team then last year or Kentucky team from last year and it's actually been the opposite it's proven to me that people love rooting for

their school and they love rooting for the name on the front of the jersey and the name of the back of the jersey is important but in terms of priorities they just love their squad and the

names may change but their love of their school program will always be there I don't know that

“this impacts it at all because I think in the past like you just love not only having the brand”

names in the final four especially for the ratings standpoint right I don't know if the ratings really back up the love that the public thinks they have for Cinderella but you know a lot of times it's like hey this is going to be this high profile guy is going to go high in the draft bloggers a lottery pick lending board because the age probably borderline Arizona you know should have one in co-op you can moments is probably outside of a lot of who knows

things can change here but if you expand it out like the top 75 top 100 prospects from a

with the NBA players like Illinois has got like four or five guys you cons got there four or five guys Arizona's got a ton of guys Michigan may have you know two first rounders depends on how far do you want to go with that but I don't know that that is necessarily Matt I don't know that that matters right now to the final four audience right because it's not hey that's the number one pick going up against this other guy so in a way I do think that

this can help the NBA because backstory I always feel like is the most important thing for an

investment in viewership like why am I watching this okay well I care about the outcome well why do I care about the outcome because I'm more familiar with some of these players and so even though there's a bit of this like where is the NBA thing there's there's a way this benefits

“both parties involved even if it feels like everybody's competing for us no I I think you're on it”

I think you know there there are people who study this and that's their job and they know the metrics so what the tournament has done the years it's Cinderella's have emerged you know a few years ago you had San Diego State you had Florida Atlantic I don't think the ratings were through the roof and they were great story lines and coming out of the regional weekend obviously there there was a lot of chatter about it but it didn't necessarily translate into the general population

wanting to see those two teams go head to head it's a double edged sword because part of the reason why we love this event is that there is a chance that a team that you did not know anything

about could upset a team that you knew everything about and I've seen it seen it first time

with St. Peter's doing it to Kentucky and then a couple of rounds later doing it to Purdue and then North Carolina just pulverize them in the elite and that's where it gets tricky we we like the idea of it I don't know if we love the reality of it quite at the same level the build up to this final four has felt legitimate and real and for all the reasons that you just laid out you have a bunch of NBA players that you're going to see so these are names if you are committing time to

watching the final four and you're a general basketball fan and you have no skin in the game

“these are names that you're going to see down the road in the NBA and you can say I remember when”

I remember watching that guy in the final four or in the elite eight or in the sweet 16 or in the national championship game there is something to that and this particular group is litter it doesn't mean that you have the number one pick which you've laid out you don't have a top four pick in my mind in any of these groupings right now but that's okay because you have a really good teams highly competitive compelling story lines Michigan Arizona this has felt like a collision course

fair unfair you have people that say well that that's your national championship game well there's a reason why you play the games and you come to God that team of destiny tag on them right now and Illinois is supremely confident with what they do and how they do it and the massive bodies that they can throw at you so in my mind you got a little bit of everything I have a couple catchphrases that I've worked on kind of workshopping around the house where yeah hey I'm not above

this if there's something there I absolutely could work at it all right we tried this once with Nate Barkaz the pitch of jokes it didn't go very well okay it was a tough audience um okay how about this Illinois is on a bit of a run and based on the old and one t-shirts you let out an in fact ballkin is life the rest is just details it's a little wordy I like it I like where you're going

but the second part of it I would probably garbled or raft would jump on top after I said

“bulk in his life but yeah I'll throw it in hopper why not do you remember that shirt I do”

I do I was an n1 guy and my son also an n1 guy he watched every mixed tape known to man he was infatuated with it and I did own the shoes at one point which probably was was not the best thing for my ankles they had a run they did have a run I had the professor on that local radio show I think I had it in the same day same rundown we got on after the professor come on the professor and I and Eagle next hour okay how about this one okay

terrorist reads been put together hell of a term in here yes so he just another great post move terrorist read he's an American pie I'm in terror read would would be very happy I'm sure as

three or fourteen from the floor and and then I work it in because the double meaning yeah I got it

“I got it now well just I can forward those two you in any hell yeah if you want probably text is”

better if you can all mine yeah in fact some over yeah if have you ever caught Noah who we had on this terrific you're like hey you're kind of stepping on dad's material here a little bit you know it's funny you now and and all of your your people and my wife and Noah will be the only ones that that know this I said this to him a few years ago when he started with the clippers I said hey dude just so you know anything that I've used you can also use and that was it

I just left it at that now he's got his own stuff but he's consumed so many of my broadcasts over the years that I just think by us Moses things filter in and I know there are times where he will go to a certain thing and both my wife and I are neck will crane up at the screen at the same exact time thinking I've heard that before what is this like for you to I mean everybody wants to help

“their kids you know but and we touched on a little bit too it's like I remember when I first read”

about him I was like what and then the second I heard him I went oh my god you know and um and I

maybe I phrase that wrong it's like hey everybody wants to help but I guess I'm looking at it's like all right so I'm this guy I'm doing this and sure I'd love to help but you've got to have the talent and all these things and then from just to be like unnatural and have this runway of a career that's going to go on for decades um I can't imagine that it's maybe there's something I'm missing with what what that feeling is because obviously it's proud and you know how people works and

all that kind of stuff but is there's something else to it that maybe we wouldn't understand about that relationship well to to put it in perspective when my wife and I dropped them off at Syracuse you you go through all the emotions he's our oldest child and he's going to the university that we went to we met and it's special it's special that he also wants to do this but he didn't do any of this in high school he he didn't he didn't take part in any kind of

radio station or he wasn't online doing YouTube videos he did nothing so he shows up we do the obligatory hug at the end there might have been some tears and we get in the car now after getting all of his stuff into his dorm room and we leave and there's a very specific set of turns to get out of Syracuse to get on the highway and I did it so many times as a student so you pull off a local road onto a road that leads to the highway under a trestle and the sign route

81 is up there you follow it up a ramp and then away you go and at that exact moment my wife amidst all the emotion turns to me and says is he going to be any good at this and I said I have no idea because I didn't you have no idea Ryan you know you lived it you have no idea until someone gets in front of a microphone with a headset and then with a sporting event in front of them or with a camera in front of them whatever it might be whatever venue you choose you don't

“know and by his own admission I think you know his freshman year he's trying some things he wouldn't tell”

people his full name he just didn't it didn't feel comfortable someone would offer up their ad hey I'm so sorry say hey I'm Noah that was it there were people that just didn't know and I think

that was his way of handling it and I think finally by junior year I said to him I was like hey

dude I said be proud of your last name don't don't run away from it and I think that resonated with them and and that's when his mind said shifted yeah it's just funny to think that he's not doing all like the nerdy things that somebody that's obsessed with this is very early age like hey I'm listening to people and this is what I want to do and it's almost like hey dad I'm a natural don't worry about it yeah yeah you totally fine guys guys I got this all right like okay man we truly did

the time the signal was clear out to Martha's Vineyard my father and I would much rather

“listen to people talk about teams we hated honestly than the teams we loved because we just”

liked it so much better than the AI and so I remember it was like who's this I and he look like what's going on but this yeah I have to imagine the humor and again the thing that I've

always loved about your broadcast so much is just that it's like hey I'm gonna do the job but I'm

gonna throw little little spice in there and you may not notice it maybe 90% of the people won't even notice it but for the 10% that understand he's crafty you know like yeah just I still always kind of appreciate it and did those early years because that must have been brutal with those personalities with those he goes with the resume of the people around you and for you to just jump out and I can kind of imagine it too it's like so this guy just graduated from Syracuse

and he's played by play but he's going to be a producer but like no he's because I know who that guy is and I feel bad for that guy at ESPN it's like so what do you want to do I want to be on the ear alright well you can work here for like two years and then you better go beyond the air somewhere because if you think you're just going to back door and a feeling in from Mike Greenberg and five years like it's just not the way that it works but the shaping of your personality because that

had to be you want to talk about iron sharpening iron what was it like about those early years were you knew like I'm going to get shit from everyone here but I think it might have been one of

“the best things that could have happened to you it was the best it was the the best thing to ever”

happen to me to be honest professionally because I had offers in Buffalo and West Virginia to be on

the air and your first instinct is well take it go and then I get this offer from FAN to be the

nighttime producer seven a midnight and it wasn't even a doubt in my mind I took it literally as they offered it the chance to go back home the chance to work at that radio station at that time that was May of 1990 and to be in that environment it's everything I dreamed of and that's how I viewed it that I'm going to learn so much I'm going to be around people that I have such high regard for and at some point this was at least my naivete at the time they're going to say

you yeah just so good you you go do it we think you can do it now the one thing that that I realized

“where humility comes into play someone told me very early on mark Mason was the program director”

tremendous guy great guy he said to me hey look we're hiring you to be a producer we know what your aspirations are do not talk about being on the air don't talk about it and I didn't I kept it to myself but every day I would do two minute sports report on my own going to the back production day recording it just to stay in that mindset incorporating sound and the repetition of that and because we had update anchors there like John Closse and John Minko and Stan Martin I was learning

from them pacing and how do you sound correctly it was like a graduate level study for me I just

happened to be getting paid not a lot of money but getting paid to be there and when the call finally

came in again not talking about it but building trust and allowing them to see me for who I am it was September of 1991 so we started May of 1990 September of 1991 an update anchor had pneumonia and I got called in it was a Friday this guy was not going to recover by Sunday and I did updates for the first time on a football Sunday Sunday night and it was glorious and then I was on the schedule the next week because it went well and the next week and the next week and then

Steve Levy and I hosted a five hour Super Bowl pre-game show leading into Buffalo Washington I was the first time I did a show for F.A.N. and they liked it enough that when Jody McDonald left to go to Philly to take a normal time slot they gave me the weekend overnight midnight to 6 a.m. just to have that amount of time to explore who I was what I was all about what I could bring to the table all of these things happened for me in such a fortuitous manner and look I delivered

I did really well every time that I was on I thought I could bid in myself to being the best

started getting those opportunities and this was really bizarre because I was such a sign-filled fan

“Jerry Seinfeld was on with Steve Summers and I go to bed I wake up the next day”

Summers shows airs I get a call from someone at the radio station and you know again before social media they said hey Jerry Seinfeld mentioned you said what said he mentioned you on the air we have it we cut it up so when you get in later you can hear it and I get in later and it's Jerry doing a bit Steve he's like Jerry Seinfeld you are just Jerry how are you now Seinfeld this is his lead and it blew my mind that this is what he came to the table where he says

you're going to be with you Steve he says you got this update anchor iron is it iron is it iron is it I'm a holy shit Jerry Seinfeld is aware of my presence as a human being and

“crazily and I miss ended up playing it and it kind of put me on the map in a weird way so my name”

which is unconventional I know it's always been my name it's not like my name's Mike Cumstein and I

I changed it as a title eagle or Mitch Cumstein either one is either and there's my name this is this is the pronunciation this is how it's always been and for Jerry to do a bit on it think gave me some kind of weird validation that this might actually work out that's wild god what was the first like they actually asked you something about you as opposed to just kind of like that update thing is always a bit like let you have just like give us the scores for a little while

and then the host will kind of like throw something the it's almost like a test and then

“you know then it happens to the worst way to fail the test is like hey there's nothing there”

we're never going back and it was very clear with you there was something there that they could work with

yeah I think it's so funny how life works out in a certain way and at the time you don't realize why it works out that way the first update shift that I had as I mentioned was a football Sunday and in the studio next to the main studio they were doing metsextra on a different I don't know if it was on a different station that day because there was a conflict basically how we rose who I had been producing for was in the other studio and how we who just announced he'll

be retiring at the end of this season he's an all-time great broadcaster all-time great a really

super talented smart funny all of it my first update there's a window that connects the two

as I'm going on the air he moons me so your your first reaction would be dude this is potentially my big break but what it did it cut the tension for me and it actually put a smile on my face so my first update was delivered with a smile on my face I didn't I didn't crack up I didn't lose it I kept my my wits about me so that's the first time I'm on the air at FAN and his ass is pressed against the window and it to me it almost typified my experience there because

they were familiar with me because I wasn't some outside higher because I wasn't someone that was working at some other radio station that was getting his first shot on FAN we were close enough that I felt part of it I was part of the family and then as you alluded to when I started doing updates for Mike in the Mad Dog having worked for them as a board-up associate producer as it was called and they put me on the air to now do updates for them and then it was complete

in other chaos because I had a relationship with both they could incorporate me as part of the show and that's when my personality actually came through that I could be sarcastic and cutting and I could bust balls with them which not a lot of people could and now you got this young guy that it's going back and forth and I knew Chris very well because I would drive him back into the city every day literally every show I was living on the upper east side he was in midtown I would drop

every day and Mike I had developed a great rapport with so that ends up becoming very easy and very comfortable and I do think it it unlocks a part of your brain and the other part the last thing I would say about it Ryan too how it actually played into play by play because it's a completely

different muscle chemistry always stuck with me because of those two guys I saw them on the air

for five hours a day but I saw them off the air as well and that was during a very good period between the two they were legitimate friends at that point and their back and forth was legendary and it spilled over onto the air I realized that you can have that with your broadcast partner that's a real tangible thing if you work at it and that stuck with me for for all the years as a play by play an answer of hey first things first yeah you got to call a good game you got to know the

names and numbers you got to know the stats you got to know the story lines you got to find common ground with your partner because people feel that that's real and if it's not genuine and it's not coming from a real place people will sniff that out as well as bullshit yeah it's an unbelievable way of like kind of putting together the timeline but of also like hey we can have these almost like talk radio snippet moments with what you're doing knowing you know again anybody

that grows up with radio and then works and it's like the clock the clock the clock is this constant thing in your head but I have room here in this format to do you know a much smaller

version of it and I look I mean I could do this all day because like I always think about FN and I

“know that like in the past like I think about the Boston Sunday Globe right and I would fight”

over it it was my favorite thing in the world I would read every single notes page I'd read the hockey notes page ever can pull to pawn it like I just couldn't but I didn't have access to any other information so I just would read it all as the gospel and then you know Tuesday or Thursday you're still arguing but that's not what Gaman said you know it's like so we were simpler all right and I don't even mean that necessarily as a knock because I don't know if like that

lives today like could there be one form of information that everybody would read because now I think it would just turn into here's why all of these things that are wrong it were like all of these guys are wrong about every single nugget that they gave us in all of these things right

and so when I think about like FN it's never gonna happen again it's just because there's no way

anything could be that important in in the limited way that we could we could get any of this stuff you

“know like I just I still listen to talk radio religiously when I left ESPN I think I listened to ESPN's”

radio line up the next day like I didn't even it wasn't emotional like it didn't bother me because I love the routine of radio and it can be an age thing to be a generational thing but I really think back to those FN years and it just me and the truck it's me back home working around the house or something that listening to you guys hours after hours after hours and going like is it because I'm younger and impressionable or is it because we had so so few options and we also didn't want to

like listen to you and tell you guys we're idiots the entire time and this entire thing is shifted to like we have a million options that it's just so hard for anything to be that important anymore in the day to day consciousness of whether it sports fans or however else you're consuming media. It was very seminal and I think the the part that sticks with me that you can't recreate again and this is not a knock on anyone that's doing it now people that get to that level

clearly have ability and talent to do that the gift of gab understanding what buttons you can push understanding time circumstance and how to how to phrase something and how to present something to a listen or response but the one thing I always knew in my early years in the business and even in my later years in the business when something big happened in the world of sports I had to know what Mike and Chris thought about it the next day at one o'clock I had to

so if that's ingrained in you no matter what's happening in your life you've got to find a way to get to the radio at one o'clock to know what their take is on it well that means you've busted through to a different level of people needing this and I needed I don't I don't know

“if it was an addiction but it certainly was something that was important to me as a sports fan”

as a broadcaster and you're right the instantaneous nature now of the business that we're in is

are doing podcasts the second the game is over if you want to take you can have it you want to

get online you can read it you can you can consume all of this in real time you can do it as the event is happening now you don't have to wait so I just think our priorities have shifted and then the way we consume it is is so different so I don't think there's any going back to that you know man I'm glad that you said yes this time can't believe I turned you down what a what a douchebag I was it's one of my favorite stories ever

I probably read it a little wrong but when you delivered when I said well then I'm not going to want you kind of like giving you shit back and then you kind of put your hands out of the side it was like exactly exactly you just kind of gave you that look that's played I played the comedic

moment more than the the reality moment the reality of the moment is you can have me anytime

the comedic moment was man that was a perfect perfect period at the end of that conversation it was a it was perfect it was perfect because even my buddies because I was looking for my my buddy yeah all right got to meet a bunch of them yeah and they were like what happened there at the

“end I think it's I think it's the funniest no I've received that's it can still not 100”

percent sure that is that is the curse of the the dry sense of humor yeah that's I need go on the call the follow for CBS I'm so happy for you man thanks so much for the time really appreciate that great talking from the wildest upsets to the most creative bracket bush shared we saw that no matter how the bracket ended every moment was a chance for fans to win and reward themselves with races all tournament long brackets have busted for races and we've seen some epic fails and even more epic

races fans we even sent someone to the final four everything happens for races even busted brackets shop Reese's now at Hersheyland dot com slash Reese's he has six top elevens in seven events on the PGA tour and he is coming off a terrific round Houston open PGA member check now good morning man's good to see it thanks for doing of course good to see you thanks for having me on so it seems

“like you're locked in right now is that fair to say with your game yeah for sure I mean I think”

I think I got in some you know I mean you want to get off to a good start you know you don't want to feel like you're behind the ball or anything like that and I love the west coast swing and and kind of all the events to start out the year so you know I'm not wanting to take time off so feel like it a good job of getting trapped in ready for the season and yeah things are trending well when you set a course record and you know now done this you tied the course record of the 62

Houston and I was watching some of the pressures there and you know I think it was pretty straightforward like yeah cool but I also tied for six I I wanted when you're looking at the scoreboard if you go all right I'm just gonna like let it fly and then the score reflected your approach I mean I wouldn't

say we let it fly I mean I I felt like you know first poorly is I got I got off to really

that start on Saturday and and just kind of some some weird things happen you know hit it and for sure hit some bad shots but just kind of felt like I got maximum penalty for some mediocre golf and I was five over through six and I was like you know I don't know I don't feel that off necessarily just like some weird stuff happens you know sometimes that's golf and then did a good job of just kind of reeling it in and and I mean for the day I was second ball

striking when I shot one over on the on Saturday so I was like okay it's obviously I'm not not hitting it bad like I'm swinging it nice and so you know confidence was fine going into Sunday and I knew you know going off early the wind was gonna be back to the normal direction we kind of had a good idea of how we're going to play the course obviously and all that and you know just decided to play it a little bit more aggressive because at that point it's really just like

hey how do we how do we build for a gust so how do we build for this week off and let's you know maybe if you're in contention or something like that you're not going to try to hit every every shot perfect or something like that where it was like you know if the pins back left I'm going to hit a drop the pins front right I'm going to hit a high cut it was just like trying to force myself to every shot even if it wasn't what I would usually do but I was

swinging up well and and you know didn't even hit it perfect necessarily on Sunday but I was happy with how I kind of you know rolled a bit it was able to get up and down and keep momentum

“going and then got some plots to fall late I think anyone then understands golf would be like”

hey you know just the feel like do I feel good do I not feel good when do you feel good when do you know what's right I'd say usually a couple a couple holes in I mean I think you know I think we've

go on the course and it just doesn't it doesn't feel as good whereas I feel like the first

you know maybe it's even in the first hole you hit a good driver hit a good iron shot and you're just like oh man those those timed up well when exactly where I wanted to all that sort of stuff and you're kind of testing it to the first few holes for sure and then you know after that you kind of you as a player you kind of know what feels maybe aren't there you know what is there and that sort of stuff and you sort of lean on that and you know for me I've been working on some

swing stuff you know since the off season and I feel like it's you know it's just slowly getting

“better weekend week out and I think the main thing is to not not go back to old habits just because”

that's where you're comfortable with or that's just kind of what you know and more so just kind of trust the work that you've been doing when a basketball player is young they may look at the parents and go okay look out to all his dad is look out to all his mom is you know like this guy's gonna be really tall yeah football there's some side stuff what is it when you're a young golfer when does the kind of like hey you see this this jake kid like you see kind of game he has

you see his swing or like what is it that kind of puts you on the radar of like wait this could actually be a thing for me when what age is that what were those conversations like um you know I don't know I think I think for me it's probably around it was probably around high school I would say I mean I think I started golf super youngs and you know golf wasn't like the cool popular sport growing up and you know it was most time kids were playing golf because that was

“the only option or they wanted to get out of PE and high school or something like that so for me”

I mean I played every sport going into high school and I still played basketball in high school and um played some like club soccer and baseball stuff but I you know when I'd play in those games like I was I was good and I was athletic and all that but I was really undersized too so it was like I you know maybe like basketball is probably not gonna be my thing when your five foot one is a freshman high school and you know smallest kid in the baseball field soccer field all that sort of stuff

and then you know you go to a golf tournament and like I was always somewhat around the top

of the leaderboard and like in in Southern California it's it's golf super competitive you know in a junior level because the weather's good year round you can play all the time so there's just a bunch of good players so high school it was like pretty obvious where it was like you know for me I don't think there was ever a moment where it was like oh yeah now I'm definitely you know I'm definitely going pro whatever I just I just knew it was what I love doing day in day out and I was like

I'm just gonna keep on going to the golf course every day until I can't anymore and so it probably you know it probably wasn't until you know 2023 where like the PGA tour even seemed like remotely possible but you would play what is an amateur in the 15 US open yeah 15 US open and and I mean I guess that yeah I mean the 2015 US open 2015 farmers insurance I'm Monday qualified as well and you know I remember I hit my iron so bad I was so

nervous just all week at that Tory and I missed the cut by either missed if I wanted or maybe missed it by two and I I hit in the water on 18 going for the green and two and maybe bogey you know it was just such a like that was my last hold missed the cut and I was so I was so bummed and you know looking back at it was one of those where it was like you know like I played parable you know by my standards even back then and I still almost made the cut so it was like

that that was kind of like you know maybe I can maybe I can like really do this and I was you know obviously good player in junior golf you know obviously went to a top college you know for golf and all that sort of stuff and it was um it was obviously was in there it was just you know just

“took a while to get to that point yeah because I that's why I think like the career when you”

look at the the log of all the different results you're like waiting minutes 11 years ago your second

event ever was yeah with soap and you're complaining about some of it which I get but was there a moment like in the first T-box or you're like is this actually happening here or like like because it was right was your second event ever right yeah yeah US Open was my second one is and you know my junior was like a good year for me it was like my first big big college win you know qualified for farmers qualified for US Open it was like I was kind of you know finally starting to like hit my stride

just become a better player and a little bit more well-rounded and I remember at the US Open I was I was so nervous as a chambers bay and I went to my first T-shot and like only time it's ever happened to me in my life and like I hit this thing and every single time as a player like as soon as you make contact you kind of have an idea and like where you know the window it's gonna go through your eyes kind of like locked into the ball pretty much immediately

and I hit it I looked up and like my eyes were searching like I couldn't I couldn't find it I know I was like you know and then people started kind of clapping and and I just like walked back over my brother was counting for me and I'm like where did that go and he was like dude right

have you just to have like whatever I'm playing like three new guys and then you're never playing

“of course you're not like the first thing I'm thinking about is like just don't take forever to find this”

yeah yeah and at least in your case uh you don't want to do that guy you know you don't want to be like you know the the amateur that's going out there and shooting 90 and holding everybody up or or whatever you don't want to feel like you're like a nuisance especially I mean in PGA2 events if you're Monday qualifier you play with PGA2 or rookies like that's who they pair Monday qualifiers with so I played with Justin Thomas when he was a rookie at farmers and he was only you know a

year old of me or something like that he had basically just turned pro and um and he was obviously a stud in college and you know he was and I was like man this is you know this is a bit nerve wracking plan with like actual tour players it's not like you get paired with other Monday qualifiers so that's not the most you know comfortable scenario that's for sure and at least you also have a few thousand four caddies right so they're probably not losing a ball yeah probably see where the ball landed

you're seventh in driving distance this season okay and you've always been somebody that's like hey

you see how much power this guy has and maybe because you're a smaller player that that sometimes like it's like oh not only does he have this swing but like look at all of this power this guy has as well so you're on the radar you know you're playing some events but what's that next level of it coming together to start to put together the the resume that you've had in 26 and look I know you've been on the tour now for a few years but I'm curious like what that difference is

between the outplaying some terms not sure I'm gonna cut some going to make and putting together

“all the skill that everybody saw on a young golfer to be at this point um I mean I think it's you know”

to me I felt like I at any time I like moved up the level it always took me some time to like get comfortable and actually start to play to what I feel is closer to like my potential I mean as

golfers were always trying to get better you can always play better and shoot lower scores so

for me I felt like you know when I jumped up the corn fairy I played bad and then I fell back down you know same thing took me while the you know kind of catch my footing in college and you know and PGA tour Canada all that sort of stuff and I think usually the the biggest thing is just consistency you know it's being able to you know like every player's so good it's a matter of being able to do it day and day out and and not have those bad stretches and those you know those bad tournaments and

trying to have you know trying to turn some of those bad rounds into you know okay rounds where they can keep you in the golf tournaments so for me that was kind of my main main thing is like you know

“I know I know when I play well I can I can win golf tournaments it's more so like hey what can I do”

when I'm when I'm not on my game when not everything feels perfect like can I you know is there a part of my game I can always rely on like for me I've always tried to be really well-rounded I've tried not so like just lean on one thing all the time you know whether it's ball striking or driving or pludding it's like I want to I want to try to be you know I'm not chasing average in every category I'm trying to see like oh what are the best guys do and how do they do it and how do I get that you know

across my entire game so I mean yeah for the most part it's really it's really just been you know consistency in my own game and and just trying to I mean just really just trying to get a little bit better every day and every week is it true that you're one win you said a record for fairways missed yeah I'll need it too far as the last round yeah and I mean I will say that golf course you can hit it just about anywhere off the tee and there's like you know it's funny because like there's

there's probably only like three or four like difficult tee shots out there and you know when you're in the when you're in the when you're in the lead to golf tournament the one thing you can't do is hit it and like the only trouble on the golf course so it was like I aired on the side of caution pretty much the entire last round for the most part especially after I hit a terrible drive on three and hit it in the water and I was like man I I just can't I can't be going backwards you know

I had a foreshot lead and that was like the first time I had that kind of lead going into the last round in my life so I was like all right this is you know it's new territory trying to figure out how to handle it and yeah there were there were definitely some holes where it was just like hey like you can't miss it you know on like 16 there's like one tree on the right side that I would get blocked out from so it was like I'm just you know I'm gonna aim left obviously I'm not going to hit

it anywhere near that tree so you know you see it all the time with guys talk about it at like number four on Tori South you know you have the canyon left but you have the rest of the world to the right and like I've hit it in that canyon before and it's just like it just sucks because you're just like you know you have eight miles to the right to hit it and it's like you hit it one yard left in your gong you just you just feel like an idiot I love that strategy yeah because I didn't

know course obviously so it's like you see that number just like the first time since 1983 or something

good explanation so this past week and as you mentioned the course record time for six in Houston

but your brother Ryan who I met and talked to occasionally won the Mesaverdey championship yeah club championships so does he call you or do you call him to congratulate him he called he called me and uh and I was I was texting my parents there out there watching and it kind of give me updates and whatnot and then he called me after and he was just like man you just he just couldn't give me one day he just couldn't give me one day where where I had a nice

little accolade and going on and everything but yeah he uh he played great he um and he's such he's such a good player for somebody who doesn't play anymore you know hard lady he's played like I don't know six rounds this year or something like that but the guy just shoots you know a couple

“under or even par for too much every single time he goes out so I think that's his”

I think that's his fifth time winning it in the last six years or something like that so he'll he'll practice for a couple days before and then get out there and go do his thing so Mesaverdey's like your home course you're like you grew up on that course I assume right um for the most part I grew up going to coast to Mesa which is the the public course right across the street and then I got access to Mesaverdey through an honorary membership in 2012 I think so

yeah like senior and high school freshman year in college they allowed me to go out there and use the course and facility so I'm in there yeah for for a long time now I'm in his best membership in the world we have we have you know the best people they're super supportive they let me do everything that I need to do to get better and you know I'm in Scottsdale mostly now but when I go back into summer and for holidays I'm I'm there every day yeah it's a great course

I've been down a few times and I played with uh right it was probably in the last few years of just trying to figure the game out like I played a little bit my 20s didn't play and then like three years ago I go enough of this like I'm gonna teach myself like I'm gonna and that was without question of the three years I've been playing the worse round it was so bad and what made it even more embarrassing is I was in Vegas for the

Super Bowl and I had all this extra time so I went out I was like let me just get fitted like let me try different chefs because of course it has to be that of course and I bought the most

“expensive LA golf chefs ever and your brother I think it was like the tent hole”

I was like man I'm really struggling I was like I don't know if it's these chefs this is the

first time I played with him and he was like yeah he's like I did notice those he's like aren't

those like a grand yeah they're really expensive he's like yeah I did he's like they're really nice man they're really nice like almost kind of just going what are you doing because yeah what's after he's too I mean you know you get somebody who gets into the game and they just fall in love of it and if they have money to spend they go by just the most expensive stuff because I think that's what's gonna be the best and it's like unfortunately you know until you get to a certain point

that stuff doesn't matter too much yeah if you're working on your low spin sure buddy like yeah get those tipped as well so it was it was tough because we were throwing out numbers and trying to figure out like what we're gonna do that day and then I was like I think you get to put me down it was like a plus 22 he was like he's like that's dangerous and then at the end he was like you were being way too nice and I was like well I was like that was and I just was just one of those

days man it was just one of those days that was just brutal and you're looking at and he was good he was he was a great sport about it and I think we played again but he's uh do you give him

“do you have to give him strokes there considering how much he's played yeah I give him shots I”

give him I can't remember if we do like three and three maybe three in the front three in the back something like that so yeah kind of it will almost kind of base it off with like what maybe where we're playing or how much he's been playing lately or if I've been playing

well lately like all that sort of stuff so we always we always have something going on

do you guys get any kind of gallery when you're back or people like I mean it's kind of frowned upon but it's a pretty loose place in the best way like yeah it is a great hang kind of country club so I can imagine maybe they like Jake's here like you know let's take a couple of cards out now we don't we don't ever really get a gallery and you will around like the first T-box 10th T-box and then maybe around 18 or something like that but everybody's known me for so long

it's you know and this it's like a community country club so like everybody who's a member there lives then a couple miles like they're there every single week so um feels like everybody knows everybody and it's all just like one big family so I mean they're they're not like in shell shock or anything like that when I show up to the golf courses so just like oh yeah Jake's back cool um so they're they're pretty good about you know not I wouldn't say like

playing every day anyway gear it up for the masters you mentioned that this weekend

do you look at these you know two tournaments in front of Augusta as like there's things that I want to look I I'd love to win a tournament but I also want to have my game dialed in for Augusta as well

“yeah um I mean that's why I'm I'm skipping this week of Belero um to get perhaps in whatnot”

for Augusta so I mean Houston Houston's kind of a mix of like you know I'd play that tournament whether I was into Augusta or not it's just a to really good course fit for me um you know it helps to be long off the T and then the conditions are pretty similar to like what you're going to see Augusta in terms of you know the types of grass and and the you know they have some crazy greens out there in Houston as well so it's kind of good to perhaps get used to

post breaking a lot and some some some Harley chips that you have out there but uh but yeah I mean

I mean for the most part now I mean I've played some practice rounds like you know maybe a month or two months before Augusta my rookie year and kind of got my idea of like you know what shots you're going to need and what the course kind of calls for but now after playing and I feel like I have a better idea I mean everybody's everybody's watch to turn around millions times and they've seen all the shots and everything so it's not like you don't know the golf course but um yeah

just kind of knowing a mound game um you know just not treating it like any other golf tournament but knowing that you know I need to get my own game dialed I mean the golf course is a golf course so you just have to go hit good golf shots and um you know there's a few things you know

“ball striking wise that you kind of you know you need to you need to ball strike it well out there”

the greens are so crazy you need to be able to control it and hit it in the right spots so um that's going to be you know kind of focused number one but um but yeah just you know getting dialed in a sweet scene my coach boy and and uh just making sure everything feels good you changed coaches the saw season correct and yeah what goes into that um you know I mean sometimes you just need like a fresh perspective and or just like maybe different wording on like how somebody's

gonna give you the same-ish information um and uh you know some you know every every coach is like a different style on like how they teach or or how they how they go about it um during the lesson stuff like that and I think for me I just realized that I wanted to see somebody you know more consistently in person like I was you know my my longtime coach John Artega lives in California so you know I talked to him a bunch around could see him as often and then uh when I moved to Scottsdale

I was working with Dana Delquis for a while um and it just you know just got tough to see him in person as much as you know unless I was going back to California he was coming here it was just tougher and then boys helped a lot of guys you know become you know kind of go from like mid-level average boss trackers to really really good boss trackers and so um I felt like he was going to be a really good fit for me and he lives in Scottsdale as well so when I'm back home during weeks off you know

we can work four or five hours a day for three or four days in a row and just you know just get more reps in and and and just get a little bit more dialed in so um yeah he's been he's been a huge help and he's been a big big part of the success I've had lately playing Augusta in 24 like how how just even though it's limited experience with it how does that help you prep for for this

“time around with the way you're playing um I mean I think number one I think anytime mean you know”

that's like the the dream golf tournament for every kid to play and not only you know you obviously want to win this fire there but um but I think a little bit of like the the shock and awe is probably going to be gone this next time I mean I was sooner I'm excited to go back and all that sort of stuff but I mean I couldn't wipe the smile off my face after I won knowing that I was going to go to Augusta you know in a couple months and I was just I was just excited to go so um you know

heads on a swivel and you're you're just kind of like amazing you're even there and especially

everything that I've just kind of gone through that you know the previous like eight years professional golfer to be walk around Augusta was just was just nuts so I think now the expectations are a little bit different um and you know I I feel like I can go out there and I can compete and I can I can put up some good rounds and you know I think I did a lot of good things my rookie you're there but I think at the same time I just made a lot of you know costume mistakes and that place is a lot

about kind of not really the birdies you make but the bogies you can avoid so um yeah I think I think I think going in I just I just know what to expect I think I'm a lot more comfortable um in general I think just in that atmosphere so um looking forward to getting some redemption is that it? No I mean I love the way you just said that it's not about the birdies it's avoiding the bogies and there's

very few courses you're ever going into like with that kind of mentality is yeah kind of the overall lesson about that place that that every golfer has to learn um I mean I think for me it is I think like you know that that course is a lot longer than people think um they've they've stretched it out quite a bit over the years and um you know it's obviously not easy like the winning

score they always kind of shoot for around that like 12 to 16ish under par you know depending whether

“and stuff and so it's not somewhere you need to go shoot you know five six under every single day like”

you can have a day where you shoot over par you know even par or something like that it's still being the golf tournament so um and I think for me knowing that like I'm gonna be able to reach you know all the par 5's unless there's some crazy wind or something like that so I'll have plenty of birdie looks it's more so just about like being patient and making sure I don't try to force it on some of those tougher holes and um and you know that like that place is the ultimate like

you can you can always kind of miss it somewhere and then there's definitely like one or two places where you absolutely can't go to certain locations on each hole so um it's more so just knowing where those spots are doing your homework and then you know just having to discipline that you know if you do have kind of an awkward number if you don't love the shot all that sort of stuff it's like it's okay like we can we can play to the edge of this green and even if it rolls

off and goes into this collection area trust your short game and you're putting to get up and down and move on to the next one is Ryan except the fact that he's not ever gonna carry your back

“for this somewhat yeah I think he always he always jokes about you know okay you know tell”

tell be read you know my cat eyes and tell me to take that week off and I'll come loop for you like maybe one of the tournaments in your plan or something but you got the catty you might rip you here in the par three contests so that was uh that was a pretty cool experience trust staff well look my friends that that are really into it love your game and they didn't know we were doing this so there's a lot of guys I know there'll be rooting for you and uh be rooting

for you as well man so let's uh let's see I can't wait I appreciate it thank you um I'm looking forward to it that's for sure I didn't ask you if Colby was better than LeBron either so we didn't want to get you it I'm gonna go be fan during through yeah so yeah do you like Colby more than the

Lakers as I've learned that living out here now um oh man that's a great question I've never been asked that I mean

if Colby would have left somewhere late I probably would have I mean I was still been a huge Colby fan I don't think there's you know I don't think there are many there's not many like him you know in between him and MJ I feel like mindset wise they're just they're just kind of built different see you are you're you're you're not sure but I think you I think you're like oh wow I think I I just discovered yeah here I shared all the time with the podcast I'm like there's guys

“I remember I'll never forget like went down to get a little free time down by the beach and”

the Lakers were in the playoff so I was taping because there's a million games so I was like I'll catch up on a little bit later and there's guys it's outside and Colby jerseys playing volleyball and I'm looking at him going like your team is playing a playoff game right now yeah and it's like

well now I'm a Kobe fan I never understood it I never understood it so I lived out here I would

I would say I'd be locked into the playoff games you know I wouldn't I wouldn't be doing that necessarily but um but now I just you're an athlete you get yeah I'm a percent enjoy a gust of man fired up I appreciate it thank you before we get to live advice so Rudy traveling so he got on the live advice but not part of this the alliance marches on as we know banner self high we've got Kyle with us here we've got some NBA picks for you tonight who's board is it

definitely not mine I think it's you're his buddy you're the only one who hit yeah you hit the Arizona and it's Rudy and I lost last week so the gap is it's certainly closing your boy will probably not be at the top much longer all right let's see even put together another winner here for you that Arizona thing was just the clarity that I had on that one I was like this is just not gonna be an issue that was I think it was the Arkansas game all right give me the

next minus 14 and a half they looked terrible last night against Houston Houston looked terrific for a game so I know it's a back to back here full board a lot of big numbers Milwaukee plus 17 and a half at Houston can I interesting that I don't think I like that as much I think Denver's a massive number tonight as well minus 17 and a half at Utah so I don't like laying all those points but I'm just gonna go with the nicks having a tough night

rolling into Memphis no event scouting because a couple of players are not gonna know who they are

taking care of Spencer five plus assists that's gonna be that's my play tonight so we'll have a

little bit of you know they don't they don't can't sleep each other out which is nice and it's funny you mentioned bucks rockets because so Rudy wants to over texted me this morning over two seventeen and a half and that's gonna get you to plus four fifty six right in the zone where

“everyone's happy wow so he went with the lowest total on the board I think there's one that's a”

two fifty yeah Denver Utah's two forty nine and a half paceers bills two forty seven and a half I would probably just play both those unders see you can just load it up two legs all right so screw the alliance do the do under you over okay no that's not the official release here but that won't be on the grass some of these numbers are so big this ain't the season because it's a free for all of some of these games so it's tough stuff to keep up with it all right

check out the latest dial-ups on sportsbook dot tripe kinks dot com you want details bye I drive a Ferrari three fifty five cabbie L.A. What's up I have a ridiculous house in the south fork I have every toy you can possibly imagine and best of all kids I am liquid so now you know what's possible let me tell you what's required. Hey the games all here sir Rudy Kyle life advice life advice rr at gmail dot com lot of feedback lot of feedback do you want a couple of them. So Rudy I'm going

through it right now I'm watching Italy we're taping this a day early Italy's in penalty kicks against

Bosnia to make the world cup or miss probably for the third straight time so I'm on edge already so

“you know what let's just fire away okay um I think to stick up from my guy here a little bit”

what's the Rudy is proposing is a world where things are better for each other if you give stuff to a relative because your baby is now no longer in the baby tier and you have something we can help out a family member and they use it for their baby and then a little bit later on there's another baby and so Rudy's premise being like yeah even though I've given this to you and I no longer have a deed or title what would be nice what would be great

in today's societies if they were like hey instead of like getting all worked up about ownership and can I sell these items now because you have given up the right to them maybe I can just pivot them off with somebody else and we're all helping each other I know so Rudy didn't grow up in a company but didn't know there's something to be said about society helping each other and you know we've we've got a lot of legal experts chime it in saying like how really what yeah I don't

I don't get a lot of the legal stuff like so I don't like cool like yes I understand more ality likely allowed to sell something that no one has a deed to that was given to you that's not it's it's about being classy it's about just like oh I don't know like we're like Mr. Peter it's not yours sell in my opinion again this is like big ticket items this is like stuff like hundreds maybe

“thousands of bucks like again you go ahead if you want to do it it's not going to ruin my life I just”

think I just think you know if someone gives you like a high chair or a bassinet you probably as as Italy losing a miss the world cup so now I'm just gonna be on fire today wait stay lost now and pissed off yep yep they just lost their straight world cup they missed they didn't want to

Euro in the middle of that though which is hilarious but we'd be see what's exciting you always have

that you're right although most of those were not yeah but you don't maybe it's even better but who's this guy oh he didn't deliver for Papa genos for a little while yeah like he's a new center builder again I'm not I'm not debating the legality of it I'm just saying that like if my sister was to give me a bassinet in two years when I don't need it I would feel weird about selling that I'd be like hey do you want this back because anybody need it yeah check it coming down the line

on the family I feel like this isn't controversial and I don't think it was like yeah thank you so I again yeah you want to sell it you're not going to get sued bro thanks I understand that I'm just saying there's like optics to this that don't look great I will I'll say this like my the last generation of my family babies everywhere you know you probably couldn't get rid of this stuff fast enough nowadays for me like I look around like the clan shrinking a bit we're not multiplying

as much these days so like there might actually be like not a not a good place to turn to to get rid of this stuff I'm not saying that's situation but like if I had a bunch of stuff that was like being aged out of and I wouldn't exactly know where to go with it right now but that's just me

as an experienced Craigslist marketplace garage sale and garbage thrifter so Rudy's family

bubble is just that a bubble that most families don't operate with if the emailer had put a

“stroller in the trash and then saw them Facebook's three months later would he be mad I think that's”

insane okay like these are just like a bad fate arguments like I'm not I'm not this isn't stupid cool good argument thanks for the email guy next wow there's a guy we got a guy in there if he says chief we may have to have to ask him to sit at the restaurant that's essentially what he's done by giving it to his brother I would disagree this little bit different than giving it to your brother and putting it in the trash then being mad about it being sold later on I have a similar

experience where I took a neighbor ceiling fan from their trash cleaned it up and then sold out

in Facebook for $40 they were upset because I took someone else's property to have it for free

they put it in the trash so the likelihood was no one was going to have it I put in the work to clean it and find it at home if the emailer wants to make a little cash then he'd sell it to his brother

“easy solve I think we're dealing with a very specific audience here of a guy who's just handy enough to”

you know one man's trash another man's treasure I think he's completely eliminating like any of the family dynamics here I think it is very different but these people are not throwing these things away like I if you're asking you to send guy you put a fan in the trash I'm not going to defend that guy they are giving this to you as a gift something that you need likely an expensive item it helps the burden for when you have a child this isn't complicated guys like I these these are

terrible examples of why I'm wrong I mean I'm not saying that I'm objectively correct and right you shouldn't waste it but like that's a these are two dumb examples so and fatically a

great was serruti always appreciate all three of your life advice how to write and say how much I

agree was serruti the Facebook marketplace selling for baby items they didn't purchase is so wrong I appreciate Ryan's warning of families have been separated over dumb or shit but have to clarify that ser ease perspective is not just his family I'd be pissed too like serruti and emailer and I definitely bold font I definitely at least make a snide comment or call out I love the show yeah like in my my ask communicating this family member no but like the things we said probably

and I wouldn't be the only one we also had somebody else chime in it's like you can get just blitzed with hey take all of this stuff and it's actually not stuff they care about they're just psyched to not have it if you want if you want the crib you have to take the bibs as well like yeah yeah that's fair like my sister just came over like two weeks ago she grabbed some stuff and left over stuff will probably either donate or toss or whatever but like yeah I'm not

like hey you gotta take the you know this isn't all or nothing deal take what you want I don't know

“if you take this you have to have one more kid the next 24 months yeah again I think there are”

three or four different children in my family have slept in the bass and that we used so like you know if someone would say that sell that that would be a weird look don't get mad at them for maximizing value that's the about the shareholders yeah there was still a wine the soft available online is doing okay I guess pretty hot out the gates all right cool off a bit waiting for our stuff everything cool is off eventually call yeah all right even love so as we're still a

wine and appropriate wedding gift I'm actually the guy who emailed about the escrow from gaining weight update on that didn't work out but not just because of the weight gain so I think this was recent wasn't that the guy that was we've had a few of those but there was one more recently we were like I felt like if you could even yeah it's got must be like like oh that he's gonna tell people this is his podcast to remind you my player comp six what 185 queen jacks and style game that's right

those are specific comp there I'm even mailing today for clarity over debate ahead of my friend one of my close friends it's comp Steve from is getting married I'm a groom's men he's a big fan of the show my current plan for wedding gift is as follows a hundred dollars in cash plus a fifty dollar ticket on Michigan State to win it all next year basketball that's his favorite sports team plus one bottle over silo softlunk a total of two hundred dollars spent what are you gonna do

keep the other two bottles because they're only sending out three to time because the ship just won the shipping cost some people have been a little yeah a little upset about the shipping costs it's like well it's glass and it's you know this is not uh this is a boons farm over here hey nice bull yeah hello in college my god case of that limitless possibilities they're hand in those apps people anyway uh I told one of my other buddies it's called him Teddy my plan for the

of just cash that else Steve would enjoy Teddy told me this is a ludicrous idea and that the wife

would be upset with this because the gift is supposed to be for both of them I argue the half of the gift is cash and that could be the part that is for her and the other fun items were meant mostly for Steve am I making a mistake by catering the gift to the interests of Steve with a wife be upset by this do I try to do the fun thing here or just put two in order to cash envelope and not make any waves thanks for reading my quote my answer would be different

based on is there is there not a registry instead of the hundred dollars in cash could you get the south spoons and the fucking wooden ball or something and like do a little extra than one gift double gift double gift just to cover your ass on the fun gift thank you say personal ice gifts yeah because they are going to put a look up the tally at the end of this thing and they're going to be like a fifty dollar bed slip well I think so if they're doing if they're thinking no it's kind of

crew it's all written down and so a lot of times mother the groom mother the bride's like really into tally and everything up you know so I would I would just if there is like a physical thing you can get out get them on top of the fun gift otherwise if the bachelor party hasn't happened yet it'd be cool to show up at the bachelor party with that but yeah what do you guys think yeah yeah go ahead sir you guys more expensive this I don't really remember

keeping track of who's gave what like I remember we wrote it down for like thank you card purposes but I don't I couldn't tell you like if people use the registry gave cash and cash is obviously

always kings that's fine we did get a few gifts here and there I don't know that I don't know

these people know that they're really going to remember unless you unless like you know the wife

“is a kind of a stickler and like really go through that stuff like I don't remember that being a thing”

I'm I'm a dude though so like I don't do it probably care less about like the telling the gifts after the wedding it's not really what I was like doing it for necessarily not that the girls are doing it for that either but I think they're more into that kind of stuff I didn't remember it so I that's that's how I would do it also she doesn't know who Ryan Resilo is you might that like the the joke well the joke could like lose it a little bit of steam with her like she

might not know that's part of the joke if like the bed slip if she just thought the bed slip was the only joke maybe that's cool because if it's just like a nice bottle of white wine you know Coastal flavor to it maybe that's maybe that's maybe that's not white wine it's not yeah maybe that sneaks in under the wire and it's just the bed slip she's like wow that's Johnny if somebody got you a bottle of wine three bottles of wine for you what oh I guess he was keeping

I don't know what the talians but he just gave a bottle of wine for you wedding like I don't think that's a guy or girl gift either she could still enjoy the bottle

“exact with you that's my point if she actually likely doesn't know who I am you should just be like”

with this stupid label like what is that guy like a navel hero or something like kind of yeah yeah I don't know I think your other friends kind of like I know that there have been times especially like when you grow up a little bit more blue collar and then you're around non-blue collar guys like in those early years and you go like yeah I'm just going to do this and then the the guys that grew up a little more refined than you did it just blows your mind you're like

what are you doing like yeah that's what normal people do you know like comber bond with the fuck so I just there's certain times in life depending on how you grew up what your parents are like the people that you're around there can be some real like when there's like real grown-up stuff and you know you maybe that maybe again I'm speaking from first-hand experience of like almost having to retrain myself or I would even say retrain just like understand the ways of

the world in a way that I was just never it wasn't like I was going to fancy weddings or anything

kind of like that it just didn't exist and so there was a bit of that in the early 20s so now

“I've seen mid 20s like third and by time I was 30 I think I kind of figured out some of the stuff”

but there was definitely some like hard learning of you know they're your friends they're the same age and they're all kind of going like are you insane I don't think this is that big of a deal other than it's like two items that are kind of for him as opposed to just the cash so I would say instead of the cash like back to the registry saying I tried to do that whole like oh I'm not going to do the registry it's a dumbest thing ever find something is coming from the heart right from the heart

hey what can I spend this is what I would do let me click on something done and done and then and it's almost like you're being penalized for being more creative and adding extra stuff because you could probably just go 100 bucks in the registry cover your bases and you're totally fine and here you are catching shit for like doing something that's a little bit more thoughtful and mean something and he's totally going to appreciate so maybe the move is get yourself checked off the registry box

so the wife knows and then just to the side yeah you put the ticket into the wine

get knocked for doing two different things there so I would tell all younger guys like

anytime I was like oh I'm gonna figure something else out then I'd forget then I'd be the asshole that didn't get the gift and then it would be brought up years later I would say anyone that I've posed on the wedding gift thing they made up tenfold because later on I would be like now I'm really gonna make it up to you so it was almost like I was paying penalties every year that I didn't do it but it's just like oh I don't have anything yeah right I mean it was really stupid

it's just like hey you have no money everybody knows you have no money buy the thing that's very inexpensive and make sure that you're doing something I was like oh I'll do something cooler there's like no you won't deal for get immediately do nothing because you're broke and then you'll be the dick when they're going through their cards to thank people and then you're not gonna get one which reinforces once again why the wife's going to be like oh my god

what if I can lose a result dude it's shrapnel from Normandy what he's talking about right I think I think you could put the the bottle of wine on the gift table with your with your money and then slide that thing post like in the reception slide the bed slip it is breast pocket you know when you just meet up with him when he after he walks through with her and he's all happy and you're like dude check this out and then there you go yeah there's a limit on how much heat

“you should take for doing extra nice things for your friend so yes I would just say don't”

only her lay eyes on the bed slip that's that's the best thing yeah maybe especially if a cash is well if she thinks gambling is stupid it's like oh great so a hundred dollar plate wedding he gave us not if it's she's not gonna think it's stupid yeah if she thinks gambling's stupid for that reason she was so impressed you didn't even give us 50 bucks but he

gave us probably nothing she's like you know I've always hated these cabinets

let me be rooting for Sparty like crazy right so all right let's stay with a wedding registry we have a different one creatine on a wedding registry i don't know about this idea six foot 195 just ran seven and a half miles consecutively at an eight and a half minute pace oh yeah that sounds awful I ran on the beach yesterday with a weighted vest on that was horrible with your sling the sling I think I'm in the clear I'm not wearing it today

I'm gonna put it back on later got to breathe there's no there's no bruising so that was the first thing and it immediately hurt way less this morning than it did yesterday so I'm clearly

“doing a hopeful diagnosis on this we had somebody right in and said you need to go get surgery”

immediately on this and I was like I just don't think that that's I yeah it was a full pectair and the or the bicep tendon although the top of the bicep was just aching all night last night which wasn't fun so well though right when you tear your pect doesn't what am I thinking of oh

maybe it's the tricep when it's just like the pool below down there that you always see I think it's nasty

well the bicep also curls up um I didn't even like talking about this yeah we should stop back to the creatine yeah but I do appreciate the guy who was a doctor being like you need to go and you have to get surgery immediately because it's best better parent I was like I don't I'm already out of the sling after today she can be look at this guy's the Wolverine over here I'll probably be in it tonight but it sucks taking notes love the show I listen my fiance

does not you are not alone my friend my fiance and I are getting married in September she is setting up the wedding registry I asked if I could add creatine to the registry half joking she said no way creatine is not an appropriate wedding gift for the more she made a rule about no consumables do you guys have that kind of rule um the registry was for her I was I was rude for cash I was like maybe we could maybe we could lower the amount on the registry I didn't you

know I didn't even put anything on there okay yeah a lot of this up goes into storage almost immediately too oh beast there's certainly some of your wedding guests listen to this pause no sorry he doesn't even know what they gave him that's matter no I do I feel like we got well I don't think we got that many get me yeah you get the you get like the pause in the

“pan the towels you know all this stuff and it's like I think we're living in no we had a hell yeah”

we had the house at that point but still like you're not using all this stuff so I don't know eventually finds its way to the to the kitchen or we're supposed to be how was it really planning on adding anything to the wedding registry as I can buy my own stuff with my job and don't really care that creatine will not be included I just suggested because I knew the future wife would say no and I get a kick out of that however I do believe that I

should be able to add it if I wanted I guarantee one of my buddies would buy it and it would get a good laugh out of a few of the guests what are your guys thoughts on where to draw the line on wedding registry's counselor where there are any things your wise would not let you put on the wedding registry and he goes my future wife is from mass I'm from Minnesota easy going she's from mass you're probably not getting your way on this one so I would just kind of let

it go even though I do think it is kind of funny I feel like we already covered this so I don't

showing up with like the the jug of creatine to the wedding like usually that's up just gets delivered to the house too yeah in the modern wedding website yeah a lot of that stuff just so like you're not even getting really the funny part of the jug I mean you could I guess theoretically but yeah that I I'm kind of through wife like that would be like a weird look I mean it would be funny but it's also like this is dumb like seems kind of unnecessary when you're planning a wedding there's

so many if you wanted it like it's sort of like the beginning of life advice when we had these bad faith arguments talking about sort of these you know stroller policies like you could as as the husband planning a a wet like planning a wedding with your suit to be wife you could get you could enter into one of these bad faith arguments every single day and what you just learned as you don't what it comes down to the venue when it comes down to what's on the table when it comes

down to how much extra you're renting for you know for a stuff for one day that's not tables and chairs you could but often you don't and so I think you're doing exactly what we're all doing just just don't so be plenty more hills to die on in your future oh yeah yeah I mean just think of what future argument you're losing if you win this one like you know when I let you have the creatine on the wedding five years ago come on I think it's something yeah I thought you had it

“what you look like you were go I let you have the creatine so you have to let me whatever I thought”

you had something oh yeah something I probably did I'm usually pull myself rain myself in there a little bit okay like I said another one I can't really help with but let's go 510 mid 30s 235 yeah no Jim Stasso brag about especially since becoming a dad pleader comp to one Blair big body that takes up space in the middle with little to no verticality despite having both of my ACL in tech what's that the fun is the fact I feel like note you cannot bring up

the one where we're not talking about his lack of ACLs yeah I think I remember somebody just ifying him being picked being like you know if you get three good years out of meth that cost and they can't walk anymore isn't it still worth it because he was so good in college you've ever seen then there's like an Instagram page where like it's I think it's called like dude's brock oh yeah they're starting college guys it's great and I I stumbled upon the Kevin pit snuggle

one the other day yeah man what is one of the first ones yeah pit snuggle ones the OG one of this

that this dude rock thing picked up so fast it went so fast that was like is something going on here

“you're suspicious of it you're like hmm yeah I think the contents really good but it's just”

any industry past kind of like that it was almost like the really good podcast or such just getting Drake like episode two yeah well they're they're branching out fast they got MLB dudes they're rocked NBA dudes they rocked so well are they branching out or just another guy be like hey I know I think it's them because the original account is like this account's gonna rock too and it's like hey maybe it's a whole industry plant maybe they're just firing shots fired up the ad buys real

quick and just seeing what they can do but yeah they're they're expanding that's like the image the Titanic music ones there was like every sport had the Titanic music yeah somebody did it with the Yukon game when it was like someone had to and then I watched it was like this anymore work I was just what you mean didn't work it didn't work like I was the Kanye the Kanye was bad yeah it was just the Kanye ones the what is father stretched my hands I had not seen one of those it has

not hit those are pretty good they are incredible if you could do something like that what would you do

different thought about that if you had the time just be like I'm gonna add in a video or be the subject of one of those things that goes hard what do you mean no like your idea for for for a feed for an opportunity oh now yeah put you guys on the spot I don't know yeah lure the rings to father's dress my hands just pivotal moments no I don't know I like to think about it

“that's why we need to think about it more yeah I like that so no bad ideas in the writer's room put”

there was the NBA the NBA game of thrones one but I I don't know I didn't that one after a couple days on the guy I've seen it lost a little bit of shine in my opinion back to the email I had an interaction this past weekend that I wanted everyone's take on maybe mostly seruties that makes sense he has kids we recently moved to a neighborhood in a large mid-west city no for being very family friendly great schools decent commute to the city tons of parks etc this

past weekend I took my 18 month old son to our neighborhood park and it's step two push car

so basically it's kind of like a big wheel but not and then there's a handle on the back

side rock so yeah yeah yeah yeah so plastic car four wheels red

in 18 months he's getting secure they're not yeah yeah the kid fits it perfectly and then there's a handle you know like again you still need to adult and control this we get to the park I placed the push car next to an empty bench and proceeded to play with my son on the swing within five minutes a couple early 30s and they're toddler sat at the previously empty bench with the toddler immediately jumping into my son's park push car I expect the parents do

what any normal parent would do and ask their kid not to play with the toy that's not there but they did the opposite they encouraged and we keep playing with my son's push car I ended up not saying anything just kept an eye on them from across the park 15 minutes go about

I see the mom pushing their kid in my car across the park the kid was having a blast but I was

reeling since when is it okay to just take someone else's belongings since I couldn't take it any longer I take my kid out of the swing and be lightest straight to the couple and they're toddler the dad asked with an annoyed face is this year's to which I replied yes sternly he proceeded to take his kid out of the push car walked away no quote thank you for letting us play with us no oh sorry

“didn't know this was someone's I didn't say anything but now that I think about it maybe I should”

have am I out of line for being slightly or at the entitlement of this couple notes to help the squad park was packed maybe 30 kids 30 parents toys such as scooters and push cars were scattered across the park but only mine was card jack I don't think they knew the toy was ours but I did not see them looking for the owner to ask permission either when I see my son walking towards the toy that's not his I grab immediately say this is an hour let's not play with it

I was bigger than the dad I would have been minus 500 favorite had there been a bedding line for a fight the toy can be bought for $100 at Walmart this one had maybe 10 miles on the odometer yeah I mean I'd be annoyed too but like what are you gonna really do in the situation like you could make a snarky comedy you could just say hey thanks dude I should say you you're welcome or you can be like hey that's you know that's five bucks you know rental rental fee you know

yeah you can make the snarky comment but I don't know this this person clearly just like doesn't understand how like being a human goes so I I don't know like what the wind here for you would necessarily be I get you being annoyed but at the same time too I've seen parents in absolutely desperate situations and if it kids that young and he's having a blast in the car and they go hey we grab like we're not we're clearly not stealing this we don't know who's it is we're not

going to ask every parent at this pack park is it okay is it okay is this yours is this yours is

“this yours like I think a lot of times with really young kids it's kind of like whatever gets us”

through the next 30 minutes here and instead of like grabbing the kid out of the car which you know might be a little early lesson and in planting that seed there right I can see some parents just how tough it is just having a young kid all the time and it just changes everything in your life and you're fucking exhausted and you're just like hey what can we do we can let him smile and laugh and we've got a nice 30 minutes or we've got a disaster waiting on our hands if we yank them from

the car even though no one's really using it and he's not doing anything bad do it because it's designed for really young kids to drill all over the thing so I get you being annoyed at the entitlement part of it and maybe you're just better at it with giving your kids some boundaries even at a young age where they don't understand them but I do think there can be a little grace with another young kid knowing that if their parents and the situation like if they're going to

happy 30 minutes out of it and didn't really do anything to you other than you being annoyed by it like I'm glad you actually didn't say anything to the guy because they're probably just trying

to get out of the house and hoping it's going to go peaceful and you never know like you know

every kid's different like maybe the kids just the disaster and cries all the time it's just nonstop and they were like this is just a nice little reprieve from that and that's the main thing they're thinking about at that right he's not wrong though like no thank you thank you like a hey you know you do the thing as you tell the kid to say that you teach him a lesson hey for using other people's things you know make sure you say thank you yeah yeah that can

have to do it all and done there but he did not sucks not your job the parent their kid you move on it is what it is yeah it feels like the lack of sort of any closure at the end of it is what

“really got to skies you know grind in his gears but I think the Ryan's point is like I think”

every year you get older you get a little smarter about picking your battles and I think when you have kids I imagine it's just like exponentially changes what you're willing to maybe get into a sort of extracurricular thing about I'm not talking about a fight I just mean even having words like even one more thing like oh you're welcome when they didn't say anything like that's I think I think he handled everything the way that you're supposed to and yeah I guess I agree I don't

it was one of like the the travel baseball teams we were 11 or 12 or so whatever and like my

two managers got kicked out on a call and they were like lose they you know they were told them to go home like we live in this town and they're sitting the park in a lot afterwards yada yada and you're like yeah you might have been right but like it's a little excessive for the situation like you know it's a 11 year old baseball it's the same thing like you're gonna you know fight this kid at a park just because parent of park because you're mad about it I the picking cows

this is the second time Kyle pick and choose the battles you're totally correct like why I just

educate older I'm just like why am I going to let this bother me the rest of the day because if you like do something then the best place situation to feel more strongly about it I don't think it's gonna make you feel better if you do any of these things you might have some shame afterwards too so I don't know maybe got one over on you his kid got to have some fun I think you just move on if you

“want to feel in the right if you want to feel better I think by the way that this guy described”

the parents and like the lack of any sort of cordialness cordiality whatever the word is at upon like yeah this is mine oh shit like these people are probably probably a bit annoying they probably go terrorized restaurants with the kid it sounds like they're just not really nothing about everyone else maybe it's because they're overwhelmed or maybe it's just because that's kind of people there so um I think if you want to feel better those guys could handle it way better

and you did they have everything right so yeah we hey maybe one day you'll be able to forward a plastic car now you really want to say that to them yeah I wouldn't say that by the way I'm

“glad you didn't say anything I think you should like I think further remove from it this is not”

one of those moments or two days later like oh I wish I'd said this or now I just came up with a perfect comeback I think you not saying anything I look you have a young kid so I think you would understand it but like sometimes you're just and I know I'm not a parent but I mean again being the oldest family like seeing what happens like sometimes the parents are just so frazzled and just so like defeated by the process in these moments that like all the other

things you could be possibly thinking about it it's just all those receptors are shut off because it's like about this one thing all the time and so I think most of it should have a lot of patience especially with moms where you're just like you know a kid on the plane and then the mom and it's like you're gonna get mad you know how tough that is like she knows it's tough

“and sure some people are jerks about it but I think for the most part you're like hey that's”

like a mom with like two little kids and the plane and trams like guess what they're gonna take

longer and yet they're probably gonna make noises and they may not always listen like

you know it's pretty easy to forget that we were all usually at some point not all of us were a pain in the ass but you know you get the point that'll do it for today thanks a ton of Kevin sorority and Kyle sucks for Italy really sucks magic Italy at least the U.S. they had they they had to qualify for the world cup I'm starting to worry about our military efforts with your role right now

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