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season and coming off of the Detroit losses where I just don't know how New York gets out of this. I'd say this for the next. The positive that they have that's so few teams seem to have as we close out the final quarter of the season as I know exactly what to expect. Maybe there's one rotational question that Nick's fans probably a little annoyed with. But for the most part, it feels like, okay, there's their five, there's their eight. This is what I expect them to do. This is how they're
all going to look and there's some continuity to the next that we don't have with other teams that we wonder if they can make the NBA final. So they take out the spurs at home to get down big early, not a huge deal. But they hold the spurs team again that was 11 and 0 in February. They were the number two offense behind only Cleveland in the month of February and they hold them to 89 points. And it's not like they shut down Wimbledon Yama. You know, I was looking at it
again this morning on synergy, watching his possessions and watching the way they defended them. And it felt like they were okay trying to play him straight up. But when he's actually in the 17 shot attempts that he had, he was open for, I'd say like 14 of the 17. And it was him going really quick. So it wasn't like long possessions into shot attempts where there's all these guys flying around. And then defensively, it's not like he was assigned a cat and it's bringing Wimbledon
Yama away from the middle of the paint. It's an assignment on heart. And if hearts out, then Wimbledon Yama is going to play on OG. You know, cat at some point had Kelvin Johnson on him. He's still only had nine shot attempts. So they had this bend like a next loss. Maybe we're doing hey, how come cats only taking nine shots? But in the way the flow of the game worked, it wasn't like they clamped Wimbledon and sent all this attention to him. Which also maybe spoke
to the fact that they held the spurs under 30 percent from three because they weren't scrambling
in rotation trying to recover off the stuff that they were doing with Wimbledon because Wimbledon shot attempts in this game. He didn't even really give him enough time to even get out of him. And he was one of seven or three. So, you know, I don't know that it's this design that I saw where normally you'd think, hey, I stretched five that Wimbledon Yama has to play against. That's going to neutralize some of his impact in the paint. Well, no, if he had heart in the corner,
he was sagging off of him. Maybe that was the next strategy for about the entire thing because
They took 48 threes in this game.
thing that I wanted to mention from this game is the D.O.R. stat. I don't know how many of you can paying attention to this D.O.R. story. Second round guy, huge. He just looks like sometimes if you haven't watch a lot of games, you're like, how come Hockporty's taking all these threes? You're like, out because that's not Hockporty. That's D.O.R. He took 13 threes in 15 minutes. I've seen it recorded as 14 minutes. The official box score this morning was 15 minutes. That's the most threes
permanent in a game ever. He got off to a nice star. And then he got a little cold. But he's been
great. He's a 40 percent from three. He's a mover. Although he was obviously a shooter in this game
here. And it kind of speaks a bit to the rotational thing that I would say is like the one thing that's annoying next pants is the so hand minutes. So so hand oddly enough, you know, drafted by the spurs, I liked him in college. But I knew what he was and what he wasn't. And it was like maybe he just comes in for 20 minutes and wrecks the game in the best possible way with all of his energy. And you've got a guy that's a bit of a fighter guy that plays on that edge. But I don't know
what the offense necessarily is. And then the spurs and one of the more creative tanking ways ever are decided to play him at point guard, which was actually argued at some point of like, let's see what you got here. And you're like, how about no entry passes for a year? Imagine going from so hand
“playing point guard to Chris Paul playing point guard, one of the young is like, what is this witchcraft?”
Like, I stand here and then the ball is delivered. What is this? What is this? What is this? So look, so hand can't even play for the spurs team. And it feels a bit like one of those deals or if a guy is enough of a draft pick, his reps are like, can we please get our guy out of here? Like, we're trying to figure out if he's going to get any kind of second contract. You know, the James Weisman deal in Golden State at some point. It's probably a little bit of like
the agents who are going, can we please? I don't know if that happened with Usman Jang and okay
see as well. I think sometimes, you know, people prefer to be critical of it and say, well, why would
you ever do the agent to favor at any point? I think sometimes it's kind of like a human thing where you go, you're never going to play here. He's still a young player. There's probably some other teams. There's still somewhat interested in kicking the tires on him. If he has any chances a second contract, like, let me do him a favor and send him somewhere that he should have minutes. I don't think that's the nicks for so hand. So he only play like two minutes in this game. There's no
way. You have enough other wing defenders. You would think bridges was terrific with OG with heart that if you're going to put so hand out there and how much that messes up your spacing. And again,
“I love his energy. I think there's a way he could fit with some kind of teams, but the”
offense is kind of broken and when Diora, as a rookie, is hitting the numbers that he's hitting from three, even though yesterday was aggressive on the attempts. It just doesn't, you can't envision any scenario or so hands getting playoff minutes over Diora. All right, deep in the weeds there. Houston, a little dismissive of them the last month or so, when I talked about the title contenders and what I mean by title contenders, I don't know that I necessarily have to
define it and I think everybody understands what I'm trying to do here. But hey, if this team were in the NBA finals, we wouldn't be like, how did that happen? And I don't know that it's that long of a list. And again, we were surprised last year by the Pacers. So it can happen, but it usually doesn't. So when I really started getting a little bit harsher on Houston going like, I can't watch his offense anymore to close games. It's just a mess. And you can see the ranch frustration
at different times throughout the regular season. It's like I still don't know exactly what they want to be. Well, I feel a little bit better about them despite the loss at Miami this weekend
because of the reacheper thing. Like it feels like e-maze finally all the way in on it.
You know, they had a tough February. They went seven and five. They had one four or five, though, so they were closing the month better before that loss Saturday night against the heat. And if you look at the February minutes that are played for Shepherd, he's had five 30 30 minutes games, right, not 30 point games that would be a big deal. Five games was going over 30 minutes. He only
“had seven the entire rest of the regular season before the month of February. So I think this”
stuff that we've all wondered, like, is Shepherd going to be the best option. And he clearly is because of the spacing. Now, if you look at some of the offensive and the net stuff and where Shepherd is in this closing group, you know, Durant has to have everybody else. And then Shepherd slightly ahead of the next list of guys, but he's still closer. Well, I can't say he's closer to Durant, but like there's a few guys here that are net negatives in the fourth quarter in February.
Reed's not one of them.
there's this number that proves that, like, without a doubt, like Reed solves all these problems.
But I could tell you what it's better than. The Durant finish Smith experiment, where he has not been able to shot since he's come in, the separation on their fourth quarter minutes to the regular season is like maybe a minute more for Reed than Durant finish Smith. But even with Reed's limitations defensively, and you could see an even in the Miami game and how just blatant it is. Pelal arson's got Reed. He's posting him up. He's kind of left baseline. He's not all the way to the baseline,
but he's off to the left side. And Reed's get a foul. And Durant comes over to kind of talk to a little bit. And that's his assignment, too. And then Miami just imbounds it again to larson and
“larson single coverage against Reed. Because I think they were maybe saying like, hey, it's going”
to be on you. And larson just goes right around on the baseline, like nobody's even there.
Mrs. Delayup. But the great thing is that all that disruption and then there's some help coming over a little bit later, or a contest at the rim and shin-goon, you know, is dealing with clowware and tari-e some tari-e since on bam. So like there were just some things where you could argue with at the start of the possession that they're so outman because Reed's trying to take care of Pelal arson and the post. Everything's kind of a free for all where it goes
up in tips and in shin-goons, looking around like, hey, I needed help on that. It's like, dude, I'm like, I'm trying to figure this out over here on my own. As in the side, I had a front office ask me would you rather have Pelal arson or Zack Zachary recessier. I was like, I still think it's recessier because of at least the shooting profile part of it. That may have been the wrong answer. I'd even argue last year there was some moments of recessier where I was like, oh, there's something
to see some aggressiveness in here. Like, whatever, look, we knew it was a bad drive class. The same one as Reed's obviously, but yeah, I actually really like Miami. I know I've talked
“about how boring they are going back to the summer, the fall, and I think even a couple weeks ago,”
they're not incredible, but they look really good in the fourth quarter that night. That was
without Norm Powell in that game. So look, there's a bigger thing that I'm saying here with Houston is that I want to see this Reed thing and everybody there and no door in Fini Smith, and I want to just see it all closing out these fourth quarters. So there's at least a little glimmer of hope there for me with Houston's offense. Tough weekend for the Denver nuggets. The overtime loss at okay see, which I'll spend a little bit more time on once I get through some of this Denver stuff.
They lose them in a soda yesterday. Really felt like Minnesota was an control of the entire second half for the most part. They are the nuggets four and eight in their last 12. They have two wins against teams, 500 are better since January 7th, January 7th against Boston and again, more recently, against Boston. So the nuggets are the five seed today. They're only a half game up ahead of the lakeers and the six seed spot. They are shockingly only 16 and 12 at home, the nuggets, which is the
worst home record of any of the top eight seeds in the West, even Golden State's 19 and 12 at home. Yes, they're injuries, but it's not just you, and Gordon hasn't been around for a while, Watson's out of this, this most recent stretch and playing the okay seed game didn't play the Minnesota game hasn't played in some other games prior to that. Christian Brown actually does look look healthy and good again. So yeah, there's some little rotational stuff, but like you can't
sit there if you're a nuggets fan being like, wow, we lost the okay seed over time, but whatever, like we didn't have Aaron Gordon and Peyton Watson, it's like, well, they still don't have Jade of and they didn't even play SGA in over time and still want it home. You could call that loss by Denver kind of an open three miss loss, but whatever, you know, like you lost. And the reason why I spend so much time on Denver is this summer from going through it. I'm like, I don't want to
pick okay see again here. Let me do something a little bit different. I love what Denver's done. I love what they've done with the bench. I love the Cam Johnson trade. It makes all the sense in the world. Cam Johnson's last two games are pretty rough and it's not just all the misses and I know we left the Minnesota game with the ankle injury, but he was really late defensively on a bunch of things against okay see and we can we can we can re-litigate the Michael Porter Junior trade
“if you want to, but if Denver was willing to move on from him, that kind of confirms everything”
that I needed to know right and Porter Junior lights it up and Brooklyn this year, but every single minute he's playing with a Brooklyn dance is less stressed than any minute than anybody else in play with the Denver nuggets. So you have to factor that part of it in it. But yes, the Cam Johnson start and these these hesitant transition dribbles where he's kind of coming up, he's like, am I supposed to just get it back to Yokeitch? You know, maybe we just look at it and say, hey,
he's just gotten back and he's healthy. He's playing maybe 10 games or so feels like a little bit
More than 10 since he's been back.
still holding out hope for it, but I would say this is a really rough, rough weekend for Cam Johnson.
So looking at the Denver part of it is like I'm only looking at it through the lens of like and they went and NBA title and take out okay see and clearly after the game, that's not the way that you're going to feel about it. But here's the strangest thing about Denver. You would think with Yokeitch, right? This is a team that's going to win clutch games. He's going to get you into the best look. He's going to set you up better than any single player in the NBA. If there's
enough people around him, he's going to get you a really good look. We know he's not going to hold
“up great defensively. He got torched, I think defensively this weekend too. I mean, it's one thing”
to get him in the screen rolls and those times just seem completely flatfooted and guys just blowing right past him, which happened a bunch. Look, and it's going to do that to a lot of guys, but there are other plays in these last two games where it's like he's going to be he's going to be a little bit more determined to close off one of the two things that he's supposed to be defending. So in clutch games, the Denver nuggets are now 14 and 16. That's 20th and 1 percentage. They're
net rating in clutch games in the NBA is 27. The three teams behind them aren't even trying to win games. And if you think that's weird, it is because the last three years, Denver's net rating in the
clutch, third in the NBA, first in the NBA, third in the NBA. Again, 27 this year with Yokech,
which seems absolutely impossible. I have more on the OKC game, the door trip. Door new exactly what he's doing, more often than not when I see some of this nasty stuff. Like, remember when in Dominic and Sue rip that guys head off in the browns and like, three season, they're like, oh, was it jaked alone? Anyway, welcome to the league. Sue is a terrific player. Again, one of the best college football players I've ever seen in my entire life. I thought it should win the Heisman.
But, yeah, there were these moments where you're like, what the hell's going on there? And then, I don't know. I feel like there's like a very, very clear separation of like the people that think pro athletes can't control their bodies, which can obviously happen in some sort of collision.
“And then, I think the rest of us that are like, these guys are pretty special. They kind of know what”
they're doing. And Door knows what he's doing. And he's tripping motherfuckers left and right, and it's really dirty. It's dangerous. The Steph one is ridiculous. And considering Yokech is coming off of the knee injury, where he missed so much time, that he's probably going to be a little bit more tuned up for it. And he knows that it's also door. And he and Door are going at it after every maker miss underneath the rim if they got hooked up physically. So, you know, it's just going to be
a battle. Like Door is somebody I would want on my basketball team. But it doesn't mean that I also have to defend it. Is Yokech reaction? Is it an overreaction? Yeah. But Yokech is a pretty theatrical guy. He's a big time flopper and complainer. His flopping is different because he's not falling down like some of the perimeter players. There's a lot of history onics. And like, oh, he's, you know, he's trying to get around a screen and he acts like he gets shot by an arrow. And I look, I don't
love any of these shit from any of the guys. But he probably doesn't get enough credit Yokech as much as I love him. He doesn't get enough credit for like a lot of the little stuff that you're like, what are you doing out there? Okay. But in this case, he was full on trip like a nasty play in transition, especially to a big guy. And so maybe he was overreacting because of the history, maybe he was overreacting because it's door, maybe he's just overreacting because he can't overreact a
little bit. So, for Jalen Williams to come over and lock him up and they're going at each other, good for him for doing that. There was no punch. I don't even know how that was necessarily debated. But I would say this about like the door conversation in OKC now is because, you know, this is a matchup of Ken Denver take this team out in the playoffs. So, we're watching it that way. This is after football. It's at night. You know, I'm not saying every single household in America
is watching this game. But this is a game where people are paying attention to. And I don't even mean casuals as a derogatory term here. I mean life, the guy's going, oh, wait a minute, Denver, OKC's not like, let me check this out a little bit. And for door to do something like this, on top of the mixed tape that he already has out there for all of his dirty plays, you know, it starts to become more of a conversation as part of the consciousness of the league.
And you wonder, like, if Dort is going to have more of a target on him from officials or the
“NBA, if he keeps doing this kind of stuff. And here's the thing, I love Dort. He had a play in this”
game. There's a play that Denver runs all the time. Plenty of teams do it. But usually no one can do it as well as Yokeach does it where Yokeach has the ball. There's a couple different places that
he can set up. And then it's two wing players. The first player sets a screen. And really what you're
trying to do is you're trying to get the first cutter to bring his man with him. And then have the defender play the high side of the second player that set the screen. And then he almost is like
Running behind a full back and a clear cut to the hoop.
When you don't switch it, you can screw it up. Dort knew exactly what was happening. We're not going
to switch it. But I'm also going to then block the second guy. So he doesn't even have anywhere to go.
And then Yokeach doesn't have anyone to pass to if at least the first cutter is defended well enough.
“And you should be familiar with this stuff enough because Denver runs it so perfectly.”
But there's multiple options on it. And like if it's a young team or an experience team, when Denver does it, it's like, it's a layup. I mean, it's just like which way do we want to score against you guys? And Dort already knows. I want a guy on my team that plays on the edge. And that's a guy like Dort. They're actually kind of valuable. And you're like, that guy's not going to back down from anybody. But what you can't do is you can't tell the rest of us that
were wrong when we see how dirty the bad shit is. It becomes very political, which is a good
reminder, because I just don't know that anybody's ever talked about politics and said, hey, that's a
great point. My guys might be wrong. No one, no one ever does it. And it's why when I see people argue about different things in world events, I'm just like, I don't they who's if who's this four? Is it for you? I guess, you know, obviously you can be super passionate. I'm not even trying
“to time it out to everything that's happening this past weekend. But I just mean in general,”
because it was a good reminder of like what's happening whenever anyone argues about politics. We're like, this is Lou Dort stuff. It's like you have everyone else that has no emotional attachment to okay see. That's like, yeah, I was fucking dirty. And he's a dirty player. And I'd also like to have him. But it's okay. And then you have the other side trying to tell the rest of us saying people that were somehow wrong about all of this. The bigger issue is this is Denver for about
two months has been a below average basketball team, which doesn't really make any sense. And may, you know, it has to have to start looking a little bit more consistent, a little bit better here, to close out for me to really think that anything close to my prediction before the season of them getting out of the West and winning the whole thing is even a possibility. All right. Before we move on, a quick word on the tool that keeps people's workflow
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Excited to have him fresh from the combine with a fresh mock draft out from Yahoo Sports, it is Nate Tyson, also host of 31 podcast. All right. I know you've been out there. I know you've been out there for a bunch of them. So we're thrilled to talk to you. We'll get into some of the mock stuff and some off-season storylines as well. For the NFL, let's just kind of start with the headlines. Like, what do you think were the biggest takeaways not only for yourself, but just some
conversations with people from the league? Even just before getting into what players tested,
“it's just the amount of players testing. I think that has just become more of a conversation piece,”
you know, in the combine, this typical adage. Oh, it's all about medical, and interviews anyways. But I like the data points of everybody doing cone drills andverts and broad jumps, but it seems that somebody players now are just kind of, there's fewer and fewer players doing those tests. And the ones that do those tests, it's like, you know, it's five-orship, but it's survival bias where it's just the ones that are the fastest are going to run.
And the ones that aren't fast are not. So everyone's going, oh, it's the fastest group ever. But what, what, what, what, only six guys are running and they're all going to be the fast guys. It's probably going to be like that. That's just a jump in, I'm sorry, but like, thank you for saying that because I was falling into that where it's like, hey, seven of the position groups as the fastest that we've ever had recorded data going back with 20 plus years. So when I first
heard that, I'm like, wow, that's incredible. Like you had that many. And then when I looked at
the running back class, it's like fastest running back class, ever. You're like 10 of 21 invited running backs ran and to your point, guess which 10 guys wanted to run. The guys that knew they were going to be the fastest. So I don't know that we necessarily had this spike on the line of human elevation or evolution, I should say, not well elevation on some of the vert stuff. But I'm just glad that you said it because the headline, he part of it caught me, but I'm like seven of the eight
groups of the fastest ever and this is the fastest group of football players you ever had. And then to your point, no, it's the limited number of guys that are actually deciding to do through this, which is skewing the results. Yeah, and training as got better and how training for the combine has gotten better is guys, but it really, that's what it is. As guys that know they can wake up and
Run a 437.
on the bad day, I run a 457. And again, game tape matters more than anything, but as many
data points you can put in your arsenal, how many selling points you can put on your resume, you're going to do it. I mean, what's the line? It's the classic. This is the biggest job interview of their lives. You don't want to screw up one of the questions, which is like, you know, the 40 or the jumps or something. I will say something that has, I have noticed the last few years, and I want to say this was the heaviest offensive line group ever at the combat, or one of the heaviest
by do want to say it's the heaviest, and this has been continuing to trend. It's almost the offense really, just the NFL players are min-maxing. So the offense alignment are getting bigger, and then the skill position guys are getting smaller and faster. Like, defenses are getting smaller. Like,
I'm not just using more defensive backs on the field. Linebackers are smaller. The amount of
edge guys that will play inside and NASCAR packages, so you're getting smaller defenses just physically, and I get it because speed and coverage, you got to stop these quarterbacks. But you're seeing how teams are countering that and one of those is physics, which is a lot bigger. The offense alignment are getting a lot bigger too. So that's like one thing that is tracking. That's not just a of survivor bias where everyone says that's actually what is going on right now. Devons are going
a little smaller and faster, and offense is especially offensive line are getting much much bigger, because they just, yeah, again, just physics, easiest path forward. Go straight through them. Other things, though, during my love, pretty good. Yeah, okay, okay, that can wake up and run at 437. Yeah, he kind of wakes up and did that. I think people are also really realizing the tiredness of what this quarterback class is. I think people in the week have known this,
and that's why you're seeing a very active trade market even as we're talking right now. Not just quarterbacks, but just every position. The free agency class isn't tip top, which free agency class is going to be like that. And I think the draft class is just more what I call green chip
“players as opposed to true blue chip players. So I think that's why this trade market right now,”
he even as we're recording is so active in the NFL. So those are kind of just the maybe more macro takeaways from the combine as on top of, oh 160 pound receiver ran fast. Of course he did, he better. If he's giving 164 pounds, they better run fast. Otherwise, why you out there? So love isn't that 436 range, 437. Jimmy or Gibbs ran the same time and he's a smaller guy. You know, I think love checks in at 13 pounds heavier on the combine at some of the numbers.
I was looking at this morning. I know I'm older than you, but it's funny. I was watching 12 Davis highlights the other day. Okay, and it was absurd. And it got me thinking about like running back. And you know, this can be kind of like a bigger football thing. So we can go anywhere you want to also on some of the physics stuff that you're giving us here in the offensive line. But like because the defenses are smaller and there's so much faster and you're playing with more defensive
backs. And we don't have those two middle line backers from the huge neck rolls checking it at 260 to 270. Like when I see highlights of these dominant running backs in the past, it just felt like there were these game breaking opportunities out there. And maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there's an explosive play chart that will tell me that it isn't different. But it does feel different to me at least in the priority of taking a running back. And his clean is a prospect as love is and he seems to be number
war number one on a lot of boards, just as like the most pure talent to play in this in this class.
“I love him. I love the idea of him going to the chase. I think that's where you have him”
in your mock and help myself. Yeah. I don't blame you. I think I said that would make sure. It's like man, if he just falls there, especially with like some of their limitations offensively, like couldn't they just get creative and throw him in the mix and let's see what happens. And I'd be totally for that even though in the past, I'm like, I just don't know. I'd spend a pick on one of these guys. So I'm wondering, like, would you agree at all in the observation of there just doesn't seem to be
as much room for these special special running backs to change a game? The way we kind of grew up with where it's like, hey, these wasted handoffs are all leading to hopefully him breaking one of these breaks two or three of these a game. That could be the entire game. It look. It's not to say like say Quanna hasn't had some big runs or that Derek Henry is going to have some big runs. I guess I just feel like that isn't as important, which also speaks to the lack of priority of drafting someone
“at this position this high. I think it's kind of a continuation of the last time I was on here where”
the name of the game right now, it always is going to be explosive plays. But now it's even more so
because how defenses are playing. They're playing so top down. And any player that can generate an explosive without a play having to be designed for him is at a premium right now. And I think that's at any position, whether it's quarterback receiver, tight end, or running back. And with the guy with the guy like love, why I'm comfortable popping them in the top 10 and not really bad in an I do.
So is that he can play every down.
impacted, plays impacted. There's not tendencies that I'm given the way to a defense, which is also
“a huge thing right now. Defenses are just so smart right now. And I think Mike McDonald is the epitome”
of it with the seahawks, but this is league wide. And I think these guys, they know your tendencies better than you do sometimes. This run in backs on the field. Look for a pass, this run in backs on the field. Look for, okay, they're only going to run screens and play actions with him because they want on the pass protect. I think guys that are valid as protectors, valid as receivers. Like even Jamir gives when he came to the league was terrible in pass protection. He's got way better.
So he was a limited snap guy, almost a premium pick or maybe just like a cherry on top kind of pick. As opposed to love, what I think is immediately can be able to impact all downs. So I think that why I've been, I've been kind of tilting back to running back value in the sense of guys that can generate those big plays. I've taken up premium more than the guys that I usually fall for, which are five yards, great vision, sturdy runners. The guys that maybe have if you
vision, love has better vision that, love has good vision. But the guys that can take a five yard to 15 or 15 yard to 50, that's more of a premium than ever right now because honestly, I just mentioned the lighter defensive backs and lighter defenses tackling is better than it's ever been. Period. Like open space tackling is so good right now. Again, see, I'll show you the pity of this, but this is league white. Even the chiefs little run, the last few years was
spags and that defensive with Justin Reed and other guys and that defensive backfield tackling and space limiting explosive plays. So if you're going to have lighter bodies on the field, with swarm tackling, making sure they when you do get the opportunity to bring it guy down, watch the Eagles and watch Cooper Degene saw guys off because he's playing from the slot. These guys are such good open space tackers. They have to be in college football right. So they translate
a little better to the NFL. So it's kind of like a fight fire with fire. Well, if a guy wants to like, they're going to focus so much on tackling. Who's the guys that can break the tackles? It's not the big burly guys that maybe I really have liked in the past. It's these guys that have true speed, true home run threats. And I think those guys get a little uptick. We'll see him for agency with Kenneth Walker, Travis E. T. N. Guys that I consider they're not my favorites,
because they just had, they're kind of blind sometimes, but the skill set that they bring that
“burner is so valuable right now. So that's why I kind of like Robert Smith is my kind of comparison”
to Jeremiah my love. If you remember him from the Vikings. Yeah, we're working with him. I mean, and he was, he was, yes, stud. Yes, because it was kind of like late, right? You know what I mean? Like it wasn't as if when he came in the league, immediate, like hey, it's like a few years. Yeah,
right. Yeah, and how estate it was incredible. But that is kind of so like peak Robert Smith. And
he could pass protect. He can catch the ball. A lot of fun watching him run on turf back in the day in the match of dome. But that's kind of what I think is why I've really taken it liking to love even more than even Ashen Gentie who I liked. I think love just has that premium aspect to his game that's so valuable in the NFL right now. Let's talk about the tackles. When I were texting about it a little bit, you know, I did a whole offensive line brand with the end of Jeremiah of just,
you know, if, if you don't like the class and it's a need, like, is it isn't that how you build a bad roster? It's like quarterbacks. It's like just because you say he's the first router. It doesn't make it sell. Like, yeah, that's the main thing. You actually should go there. But that one at least I have it because it's just like if you don't keep drifting them,
“you have to just, you know, like if you're sitting, I know this is really simple to a lot of fans.”
And if you were GM talking to your owner and be like, what are we doing? And be like, well, we're not going to stop drafting them because we've gotten the last two guys wrong because it still means we need one. But you seem to have a different view in this tackle class. And especially now when I saw your mock today. So take us through where you're at with this group. Yeah, we had an office alignment going in the first round. And I think this is just, I think
often it's alignment always going to kind of maybe get publicly underrated as far as how teams
think in the sense of, well, you know, we're choosing between five guys here, which is go with the big guy because often it's alignment. There's only so many 300 pounders that can move in the world. It's globe theory, whatever you want to call it. And it's also something that just even maybe something I and other sports kind of, I try to learn from other sports. Kind of cross-pollinate the stuff. Like a guy like Sam Prestey says, well, you defer to size.
Like, okay, that's the end all, you know, that's the thing that kind of like the tiebreaker is size. And I think sometimes when it's like, all right, we can choose between a pretty good linebacker or a pretty good guard. Well, guard because he's in play for 60 snaps. And he's going to impact the game for 60 snaps. He's out there every snap. And I think that's just how that's a premium to find
those guys. And he's starting guards going to go for $20 million dollars in free agency.
It doesn't matter if they're good. Just do you have a pulse? And can you start?
It's a matter if they're good.
I know, and so you get into the draft and it's the same thing. It's like, well, that's so,
“we look at like, you know, cost efficiency and value of contracts with rookie quarterbacks.”
But rookie linemen are the same exact way. It look a highly paid off in some time in our, but I also think this class, there's a lot more. There's no true true like blue chip. Oh, yeah, this guy's an easy top 10 guy. Every guy's kind of a little, a little knock. But having said that, there's some really interesting tackles, Monterele Freeling from Georgia, who, even before he tested, we were kind of shaped out our mock. And I was like, we're putting them at number six.
Because in any test, it's like a freak. And I was like, yeah, because his film really improved in
second half of the year. I mean, really, really good. Like, he's going to my top 15, my big board.
There's other guys like Max, I hand a share from Arizona State, late coming to football. Like, I don't think you've played football to a senior high school. Jukego, then goes Arizona State, and he's playing right tackle. And his film is a lot better in the second half of the year, as opposed to, you know, because you can watch everything at all all time. So all these scouts and all these teams are watching kind of pockets. So if you watch the second
after you, you kind of catch up with the senior bull and everything, and he's a great example of that. There's Blake Miller from Clemson. These guys are all interesting. Really, like, good tackles. And I'm not going to say these premium. Oh, my God. They're going to be all pros. But these are starters. And I think they could be quality guys. And maybe a little bit more. And then there's other guys that I will pair. Kale Lomu. I'm actually more of a fan of
than his teammate Spencer Fano. I write tackle. Fano might bump inside. But again, he has
positional first. Till he was interesting. I like Lomu a lot. I think he's kind of getting
knocked for some strength stuff. But he's young. And I think he's an easy mover. But these are guys. These are just tackles. There's Iona from Penn State. There's Mezador, a Mezador, this is teammate Malga from Miami, who I think it could be a nice, really good guard and maybe a good right tackle. But again, they all have little blemishes. But in this class, every position
“has blemishes. So that's why it's like, yeah, just to fault the size. And I can get a good starter”
offensive line as opposed to maybe, and if you start a receiver. Yeah, I think the shocking thing and I even when I looked on X to see your post for the mock because we'll link this podcast to it for the listeners that want to check it out. But to have Lomu ahead of Fano, I just hadn't seen that. I think the first comment to you today was that's a new one. And not to say, like, hey,
how come you're not doing more consensus, Nate. But it was, it was surprising because you've seen
quite the group. So you like the, let me, let me ask you this, though. Where would Will Campbell be in comparison to this group at tackle? Probably got Freelings a little more interesting in Campbell, but he'll be right up there with like one or two or three. So I'm the same exact spotty went, this one. I also preferred Membo over him just slightly because of the trace that who ended up going to the Jets right after Campbell. Like Membo would have won, but then Campbell will be battling for
two. I think in this this class. But yeah, again, he went where he showed up, so that's like a top 12 pic in this class tale. Okay. So you said something about like with Sam Presti, okay, see which I love the kind of like, all right, where's the tie? All right, well, we'll give it to the guy with size. I imagine Dan Jolopon's tape from Indiana, the corner who we just saw it, like, and look,
“Indiana was on enough. So I think every college football fan already knows the story,”
like, hey, Jeremy Smith high school and nobody liked him and he was small. And then it's like he's making clay after play after play. The vert test would back up what you saw on film and that 50 50 balls against somebody that's small and under size. So like if you're sitting there and you're talking about players, I don't know, outside the top 50 or whatever, I don't know if you've done all the tape on him, but like if it's a Davis from Washington who checks
it like 64 versus all the plays we saw, Ponds make for one of the best teams that we've seen in college football history, you know, how do you, how do you argue that in the room? I think right now those were again talking about like how too high everything is and how top-down defenses are helps Ponds out because it's more, more zone coverage. I think this was 10 years ago, whenever everybody was trying to copy the c-ox, like not with great results, by the way,
but just press coverage as long arms man coverage or cover three, which turns into man, it's match, but essentially plays like man coverage. Well, everybody now is playing variations of quarters and cover six and cover three as well, but it starts in a quarter shell. That a pretty more of a premium on ball skills, more a premium on awareness, more a premium, just overall stickiness. The long arm thing is just over going to be man to man. Well,
then I'm going to play the long receivers. I better have a big guy. Now, if you get someone that's just that's faceness to the ball, like a lot of Ponds is great plays when he was his own coverage and he uses high IQ to just break on a ball and you see to expose him this because he could break on the ball. I love him. I view him as a round two guy. He'll be in my top 50.
Antoine Winfield's senior is a comparison that I think others have had too.
and if you want like a modern comparison as well, Kobe Durant from the Rams who win the fourth round, but has turned into a nice solid to good starter for the Rams, but again, he was a little
“under size, but his IQ and his plays on the ball allow him to overcome that size. I think Ponds,”
if you just, I'm not saying round one with him, but round two in this class, like he has those kind of intangibles and just that kind of play style that's like he can overcome the size, but also he tested, like you mentioned the jumps, that helps his argument because if I'm taking a small guy and then he doesn't test well, it's like all right, she sure is smart, but you know, well, matter in the NFL where everybody's a freak, but I think him testing well, it's like yeah,
he is small, but at least he has that athletic thresholds kind of, or athletic ability to kind of overcome that size. I really like him though, but I just think I think teams like him too. I don't think that's just even just like, oh yeah, he's a pet favorite of anybody's too. I think the testing helped him. I think he's going to interview really well or did interview really well, but yeah, when field senior is probably the guy that kind of like latched onto is like the
high-end comparison for him. Yeah, if he's like him, then it's a first roll guy. Go for his right, yeah, maybe the higher because he was so good. Yeah, third, excuse me, 43 and a half inches on that verb for a guy who was five nine and I imagine on top everything else, like yeah, he, if you're five nine playing against these other guys and nobody's like the attitude to chip on his shoulder. I mean, it's a position that probably inherently leads to dudes being a little bit selfish. I would
always argue that corners have to be the worst boyfriends of any positional group on a football field.
So, because they're always just in their own world, but yeah, they're blaming the safety, but that's they're always pointing at somebody. And they make a mistake and they're supposed to forget about it as opposed to the amount of gas lighting that must go on when you date a corner. I feel, I feel sorry for the women out there. If we stay on the speed thing, though, even though I don't know that we've done, I didn't want to do 40 minutes of 40 times with the
Cardinal Tate thing. He's kind of why I've received one for a bunch of different people, not necessarily everybody here, but he runs in the four five range and it's always kind of the reminder of one of my least favorite cop games ever is that when there's a quarterback is a year that throws a
“million picks and everybody's like, "Well, pay it, man, I get 23, yeah." So all you have to do is be”
paid manning now. So, first year, I don't know that it's like, "Pook it in run. He was in the four five. CDLAM was a four five. The Andre Hopkins was really slow and he's probably in his prime
one of my favorite receivers because he was just never going to lose a ball if he was defended.
So, I don't love the exercise, you would have liked to have been a little bit faster. I wonder if it's in this class if he's just deemed why receiver one, then it's like, "Wait a minute, how come he's not a four four guy?" Which, you know, I don't know. And everyone I think has noticed that a deep receiver class, but that gets back to my default to size. If I'm going to go with an offensive lineman with a blemish or a receiver with a blemish, I would default to the
offensive lineman because I think it's always going to be a deep receiver class. But I think for till time ends until we stop doing the draft or whatever until something changes with football, the receivers because they are the ones that catch all these footballs from seven months and seven or seven weeks and then go to these colleges that are throwing the ball all the time. They are the
“ones catching it. That's why DB plays better as well. But saying that is why I think you have to be”
an absolute, like Jeremiah Smith, an absolute needle mover, game changer, no doubt or to be a top
tender receiver to me. I consider a tetrahomic middle and last year, a blue chipper. I was kind of more on an island with that take that I thought I was going to be when I first said it. But I think too is that you need these guys that can be either different smakers in some way, shape, form. And I think tea, why he's been defector receiver one, is he's been so clean. Catches every football. He's a good route runner. He can run routes at all three levels. He can bump inside a little bit as well.
But then again, this kind of, kind of with this whole whole clad draft glasses, he has his blamishes. He has a little, he's not the biggest either. He's like low 190s, which I would have preferred him to weigh a little bit bigger, especially if he's going to run mid four or five. With the glass hat for the optimist take here, that's not how he wins. He wins with craft in this and ball skills. As opposed to, I'm going to take the top off and he still wins vertically,
because he's really, he's one of those subtle movers. He just really knows how to like fain a break and then just kind of creates a little extra space. And then his ball skills are so good. He maximizes that space. Again, I'm just going with mid odds comparisons, but this was before the show that I even thought about this one. But like my high high high high high high high in comparison for him, or a more placed out comparison is Reggie Wayne. For Cornell Tate, where it's not like a
burner, but just kind of pretty fast, not like the greatest route runner, but good route runner, great ball skills. Maximizing them with long arms, Reggie Wayne had those long arms too.
Cornell's a little taller and Reggie was a little thicker, but kind of a plac...
of those two. I've been a fan of Denzel Boston, but again, from Washington, but again, he's a
guy with blemishes. He didn't run. We just don't know what his game spirited, his time speed is going to be. I think it's going to be better than people anticipate, but again, he has blemishes. The Kylemon has got blemishes. During Tyson's got blemishes and medicals, Casey Concepts Yones got blemishes. He's not the big, he weighed in, actually, okay, but not the biggest, and he has dropped issues. So all these
“guys, again, blemishes, blemishes, blemishes. But that's why it's going to be fun. But Tate to me,”
I don't worry about the testing too much, because it's just how he plays. But again, I was, and as high on him, maybe as other people were, I didn't view him as a top 10 guy. I've used the his receiver class. I feel like the range to start in the middle of the teens, and then go on from there. You know, from 14 to 32, as opposed to the Titans I was seeing, or even to the chiefs I was seeing, or the Saints. I think that's just a little too rich for me,
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The Venmo mastercard is issued by the bank corp in a select schools available. Venmo stash bundle terms and exclusions apply at Venmo.me/stash terms max $100 cash back per month. Let's talk about it back here. If you had a bet on who would be QB3 in this class, who would you go with? Well, I think it's Nuster Simpson, whichever one doesn't go to,
Gary Nussmire or Ty Simpson. Okay, so you think it's an open Fernando one, which you always say,
but you think Nussmire has a chance to be the second QB taken? I do. I think people have kind of, because I get it, this last year's tape wasn't great. L.C. was a trainer. The good of his is so good, and even last year, so 2024, I got it over the last year, thing I got figured out. I hate this time period, because I was going to last year, it was, no, that's 2025, it's technical, that's whatever. But the 2024 season, you got to see the quality
“of him. He's not the biggest guy. And again, that's why I grade him and Simpson as more late second”
early third-down picks. That's where I kind of bucket these guys. And I view him, though, he's aggressive. He kind of knows what he is, but he plays a style that you can get the most out of it, because he's so aggressive, he is great timing. He can scramble enough to kind of just, you know, get slithered for some yards with the athleticism. It's just that he's not very bit, which showed up last year, injury-wise, and also showed up in the sense that he can get pulled down a little bit in the pocket.
And that's my biggest knock on him, and I think a team wise too. But man, he plays a way that's more than some of these other guys of his kind of skill set or his kind of body-type usually play. Guys are more safe. Guys that kind of check down Charlie Types, Nusses of Gunslinger. And I love that. My comparison for him was a little like a smaller chat pennington. And I think just kind of the guy just maximizes what he's got. And I think he's one of a lot of teams over how he played in the
“senior ball. So this is how I view him, but I think just consensus wise. He won teams in the senior”
ball, because he was probably the best QB out there, and he was healthy finally. And then now interviews
and the combine, he did a great job there as well. It's just the size. And then he's older. But Simpson, as well, not the biggest guy either. And he didn't measure in that big, as well, at the combine. And he got injured as well during this season. And he also played the SEC. If you want to just kind of wrap this, and he's a coaches son, they're like they're so similar. It's kind of funny. Does have a lot of starts. But again, he's got its very aggressive, pretty good athlete as well
to scramble for those simple yards, as I like to call it. The Mac Jones scramble, as I like to call him kind of get those easy first downs and get down. But again, he has some accuracy sprays that kind of crop up more. And it's one of those, was that because you're banged up, or this is just what you are. And I do like his aggression. He, again, Mac, a guy has, even though he doesn't have maybe top-end traits, maximizes what he does. God, they both have good arms, I think. But I do think I have
not just a little bit higher. Same bucket, those same tier, but I have not just QB2 and Simpson, as QB3. You don't have to sell me on us, because I saw the 24 stuff. And I, I think he has a chance.
For deep all stats and 25, we're so directly related to the injury, like it j...
cliff where you're like, well, this isn't even the same person. And we have something to point to. So this doesn't make any sense. It'd be this good at this before. And for this defining moment, the timeline, you're like, okay, well, there's that. And I've said this other to people here, because I've kind of talked about this the whole time that I feel like Nuss has a better chance to succeed in a way, because if he had been really clean through 25, and had been terrific, then he's
probably going second. And he's probably going in the first half of the first round. He's likely
going to a bad team. And he's in the quarterback. And then maybe he gets the shit kicked out of him for two years. And then it doesn't necessarily work out. Whereas if he goes to a better organization, has a little bit more time. Like, we could be sitting here in three years going like that, worked out really well for him, even though he fell so far from where he would have been thought of
“coming out of 24. The only thing is the 24 stuff is like, I love him on 3rd and 7 because”
I think he's going to go forward. I'm 3rd and 7 is going to throw it to the sticks. He's not going to sit there like these other college QBs. They're just going to go, hey, running back, get us 10 yards. Yeah, after we threw it to you three yards behind the line of scrimmage, like Nussmire's going to throw it to somebody, you know, at the line, or even deeper, of which led to some of the issues. But at least, at least for me, he's thinking about these routes on these huge third and longs in
a way that I think is kind of hard to find. It's kind of hard to find on set. It's how I, I mean, really, really, a lot of my quarterback scouting comes down to, I prefer aggressiveness, because I think it's way easier to rain in a guy, a wild horse, and go like, hey, can you push the ball, please? Hey, I know you can. Yeah, right. We've got a little pressure there. Can you, can you
please push the ball past the sticks? So that's why I'm always going to prefer that style. So I'm
kind of like, I mean, last year in the middle of the season, I did a missing and big board. I came word one and we carried Nussmart to and those were two guys that 20 to 20, 24 midseason. Like, I viewed him as a top, let's say what's called 25 pic, though, but pretty easy, though.
“I wasn't like, squint that much to say it. And even going into this season, I think I had him as”
QB3 going into the season, because I, arch was kind of his own thing, but I'm in Dosa, and then sellers, little or sellers, who are still, I still stock on sellers. I'm not selling that stock. But it's, but Nussmart, though, it's like, he's going to have fans. Like, again, the coach's kid is like, these guys are going to do show him incidents are going to do so well in interviews. And again, he's going to, he does a lot of the right things, even if he does get caught sometimes,
like how he moves in the pocket and how when he gets rid of the ball, too. Let's talk a little tail and green at an Arkansas. So just for the people to understand the weekend that this guy just had. So he measures in, it just under six, six, two, 27. He ran a 4, 3, 6 in the 40, 43 and a half inch vertical, a broad jump of 11, too. So he set all three records for the quarterback, database going back to 2003. The only other comp that we've had in
some of the stuff was Anthony Richardson, who went number four in the 20 23 draft. That's one of the rare occurrences. Like, all right, it's already been six years and with Richardson, you're like, it's only been, it's been, it's been, it's been, it's been, it's been, yeah, we've talked about him. The difference is that Green's not going to go fourth. And I would tell you that even with the
“physical profile of Richardson, like, I think a lot of us that love scholarship power, like,”
I have no idea if this is a good idea. I probably like tail and green games collectively better than anything I saw from Anthony Richardson. I thought this guy was a lot of fun to watch. I thought he kept him in games for our console that they had no business being in. So to me, he is actually forget the measurables. He is probably more of a polished quarterback than Richardson could have ever hoped to be yet being drafted as high as he was. I don't know how much
he've dug into it, but there's just a lot of games with him where I go, you know, I kind of like disguise down there, not knowing that we'd be doing this before the draft. I, I really, again, talking about like, and quarterbacks, too. It's like, it's, it's tools. Like, as much as we all say, it's mocksy and intangibles. Yeah, the guys that we associate with that are still like, like, even like Tom Brady, people will say like, well, Tom Brady didn't have any tools. It was just
all intelligence. He's 65, 231 to Michigan. Like, what are you guys talking about? Those are tools. Sick beings, sorry. You took a shirt off that. Yeah. But being 65, 230, those are tools. That is size.
And, but like say, say, you got a green, like I, I've always kind of prefer these guys. Because again,
it's like, I'd rather take a dark throw on green and day three than again, the classic check down Charlie that the coaches are going to think safe. Think is safe and get them through a game. And I understand there's a few of that having on your team. But if you're a team that just wants to have some fun project, that's green to me. The, I, I thought that he had some nice moments early this year throwing bike, as far as, like, his timing was a little bit better. I thought he was
actually pushing the ball on some stuff. And then as a season kind of wore a lot more on, it kind of
Just came a little bit more scattershot.
up on the show because I, of course, he had the testing. And I think athletically and how we
moves, it's just like Randall County Ham. I mean, it's, I've never seen someone look just like
Randall County Ham. Just how, I want to, I want to get side by side measurements because it's just, it's unbelievable how much they're, they're built, how their height is, they're length, everything, how they move, kind of like gumby. But green is a freak. I mean, obviously Tesla, like this, but he plays like a two. He's a tough runner. His throwing style. He kind of has that cappernet kind of, you know, catapult throwing style, behind left with you kind of a little long.
And his arm is in like top end, but it's good. My one knock on him, or I would say my kind of narrative scouting, if I want to be pessimistic, is that he worked with Bobby Petrino last couple years. And Petrino is going to lease, you know, policies, guys up enough. Petrino has his faults, his war, it's whatever. But he's just going to get the quarterbacks going right.
And I thought mentally green did grow, but then his mechanics and his kind of folk work never
really improved. So it's kind of one of those things where it's like, all right, they already got a little bit out of him. Is there more, it does NFL coaching actually happen and actually help him? Or is this something that's just kind of like, you know, it's like we've already tapped into it. This is what he is, but I would take it. I mean, I'm seeing the other quarterbacks they're going to try it out there. It's like, I'd rather take a dark throw on green on day three than a lot of
these other guys that get tried it out there because those freaky tools, the maybe a little bit
“something more, the willingness to push the ball and just the creation. I think creation just”
matters so much with these guys. Talk about explosives, same thing with green. So there's a, there's there's a couple of day three guys that I like have grabbed my attention more than maybe some like the Carson backs of the world. Cole Peyton from North Dakota State. Another day three type of guy, kind of a funky throw didn't start a ton of games, but I actually improved as a throw, but great athlete as well. Pretty well coached as far as footwork self as a little bit more. They used to
work on, but I liked him as well. And then my, like, darkest of dark horses, I probably ever given on any show ever is Jack Strand from Minnesota more or more head. And I'm telling you, and he's, I have like a six seventh round grade on him, but he's six four, two, 40. He gets how to play quarterback too. He plays enough like a true air raid and they chuck it every single down. And it's not like him just blindly throwing to a spot. He's working through progressions. He's fighting
check downs. I don't know. There's something to him. Again, I've tweeted about him recently, but as like a day three darkest, I'm, I'm totally blind throwing a dart. He is one that I like,
“I think is a little bit more interesting than again, some of these kind of tailor-hiny key variations”
that we always see in day three and round four and everything. Jack Strand. Yeah. Minnesota more head,
baby. Do you do? I don't want to cut on any of the YouTube links, because then it immediately takes me to some kid in the corner of a house and he's like, you know, that's all he's got. No, he's doxing you. Nice guy all year far. Right. There's all long gone. Let's pivot to some of the offseason stuff and maybe how it even relates to the combine. Some of the headlines are already going on here. Montgomery from the Lions has been traded to the Texans for offensive linemen juice
grugs and to draft picks. I think there's cheese fans everywhere. And maybe all of us just love prime time football that we don't have to watch. Do you want tailor line up for the chiefs anymore? In the early, which is what I'm going to call it every time they do that, forget it. It is bad when everyone is talking about an offensive linemen and this problem that he has with getting
“getting out of a stance a little early there. Again, I think they could have called it way more”
times than they did if they actually wanted to. So I'm going to relate it though to the draft a little bit here, because I want to get maybe some storyline stuff from you though. I've brought this up plenty. So I'll share it with you in that the NBA draft is before free agency and then the NBA people if you find a person will complain that it's like, you know, it'd be way better if we had the draft after. In this case, we have free agency before in the NFL. And then you hear the same
exact complaints where it's like, yeah, but if we had had the draft the other way around, then we know what we need. I think there's something else to be said and go wherever you want with the answer. But with the escalating cap as much as it is that if you're buying somebody in free agency now, the talent pool has probably diminished somewhat because teams don't have to worry about the cap math as much as they've had to in other areas just knowing like, well, all right, this might
sting a little bit, but hell, like this 30 million dollar player, like in three years when we're at the back end of the first three years of this deal, like 30 million a year for him is going to be awesome if the cap is up another 20% from where we're at right now. So you can I can get mad about
Drafting for need in the NFL as much as I do every single year because I just...
it's like, man, if there's some stud corner out there and you need a guard, like, just take the corner and then figure it out. But I don't know how like if there's no where to figure it out other than the draft, I don't know that I can really blame the teams. Yeah, and maybe just my brain has just been so, you know, stooped in NFL waters for years and years, that it's kind of hard to find. That's
why you're here. No, I'm break it. Yeah. It's that I've always liked the flow of the free agency
draft and then there's that post-June first that kind of free agency period as well and that's become kind of like the filler, the fodder kind of segment of the year. So I kind of like that pacing and also the NFL is just like so much with tied for the, you know, everything's so tied to the lead year, you know, starting with the lead year and contracts coming up then. So I especially and also it was especially known working out at the combat now, it makes that kind of space that
time between the draft needed still because if no one's going to work out the combat and then everyone has to go to pro days or, you know, private workouts and get these data points to get the timings and everything. So you just need time to do that. There's so many schools and so many players. So I think that's really more than anything. It's that aspect of the schedule, which we mostly consider at that period marched into mid April until the draft happens. It's still very active as
far as teams trying to get more info on these guys on these prospects. And that's really just kind of like, you know, cross their, you know, cross their teas and dot their eyes, you know, just finally, you know, finalize everything. But still, I think that because that time needed that there's not
like there's never going to be able to be able to be a change because it's just how the flow of
the season goes. But I totally get the arguments. I don't know how NBA does it finals draft free agency all within like 10 days of each other. Like that's a me is insane. So like I understand the NBA complaints more than anyone that complains about the kind of the NFL and how it goes. But again, that's maybe just more how I've always viewed us. I was like, why change it now? But I just think even just logistically
“that I think that's why there's always going to be like a hesitancy to change any of that just because”
of the numbers needed to scout. What's the hardest position to fill in free agency besides quarterback? Oh, oh, line. Oh, line. I was always going to be the hardest part of spot because if you're decent, if you have a pulse and like I said, if you, you can start, you're going to get kept by the team that you had. Usually the guys that have free agency have injuries, they're close to 30 or, you know, just somehow happens like the bills losing their center and their left guard. That's just kind of
the circumstances, the bills and those guys are getting older. But most of the guys, it's so hard to like find any Dan Moore last year who is average at best for the Steelers. I would say average at best got paid so much money because he again, could just play left tackle. He could just line up there. Guys like Cam Robinson, who can barely even play, gives a pressure rates. He gets traded. Seems like willingly, I'm trading for him because I need him out there. It's just that it's so hard
to find anyone that can start for five, you know, all five guys can start all of these games
can fill out every single spot. So yeah, alignment, offensive linemen's always going to be hard.
Hey, what do we have a redo here of the DJ Fluker, Caden Proctor thing for Bama, absolute freaks, you go to the game, you're like, oh my god, I remember the first time I saw Fluker in person, I was like, you've got to be kidding me. Yeah. And if you get strapped, it was
“even ninth top 10, I think. And then I would say watching those games, I was like, yeah, I don't know”
that I see the part where he's is awesome as he looks. And then it goes this high and like Proctor's off the charts and every measure boat you can imagine. And it's not probably as bad as the LSU O line where all the guys get drafted in 24, none of them could run block for whatever, read like the team couldn't run the football with five NFL offensive linemen, which again, I still think. So this isn't, this is unfair to say it's the same thing. It's that. But I would
say, if you're this great in all the measurables of Proctor, like why I know what offensive line is a unit and tight ends and you've got your backs and the whole thing. But I'll tell you like there feels a bit like this freak out about the physicals ignoring the fact that I would argue the same thing with fluke or back then, I didn't really see it pop the way the draft people are going to make you think it did if you were watching a set or is. Well, he jumped like that.
And I get his 350 odd pounds. You know, probably the lightest he's been in a long time.
“Then do the shovels, which I think matters just as much for offensive linemen as any other drill”
that they do. I think 40 matters most for tackles are not most, but is significant for tackles, just to see athleticism. But shovels, three cones. Those are the drills and you didn't do those. And I've kind of cooled a lot on Proctor and another big offense tackle from Bama, J.C. Lathum,
With the Titans.
past protection because he just couldn't get out of his stance. He was a plus plus run blocker, which you're like, thank God. I mean, if you're going to be that big, I liked him better than Proctor. And I've seen his struggles. And whether to use, I guess you can call that helmet scouting.
“I look at more as gigantic body type scouting, more than anything. But I think Proctor, too,”
is that if you look at the history of the league and guys that have weighed over 360, and I'm saying right now Proctor's this is the best shape he's probably been. This is a guy that's struggled with his weight. If you're, the guys over 360 has not been like a bunch of hits. Like you, you know, you got some, especially a tackle. You know, there's like Aaron Gibson from Alliance. He was in great Duan Jones for a tackle for the Browns right now from Ohio State.
You got like, you got the Brown, son of the father duo Orlando Brown Senior Zeus and Junior, you know, those guys and like, okay, where they go though, like Orlando Brown Junior went the third round. You know, it's not like this guy is someone that was like, oh, top 20 pick. So like Proctor did all he could, like he had a great, he did all he could to help us stock, but film is film. And if you're going to like, yeah, the first and the athleticism is good to see, but I also see him kind
of missing blocks ducking his head. There's more technique issues. I think I always look at
for offensive linemen. This is just straight up from my dad is that are they on the ground? That because that shows athleticism doesn't matter how they test. Are they on the ground? Because that shows that their balance, their footwork, whether their hands were good or they're sloppy, so they get off balance. Does that mean they're ducking their head? Because when you duck your head,
“you can get off balance, like a toddler running. So I just that that's what I look at more”
for like game athleticism into him. I think he's average to above average as opposed to what he tested like, which is excellent as far as the jumps anyways. So to me, I have more blemishes on him. I see him as a back half of the first round type of a guy, make guys into 20s, or even the 30s, as opposed to like, oh, yeah, take this guy top 15. It look all big. Yes, because I do think he has some issues as far as sustaining and everything. And that also in past protection, get an out of
stance on the ground. I fucking love that. Yes, look, I love that. It's an indicator. Let's well, I'll kind of leave it open to you here on a couple things to close with here, but I'll go with another little headline, anything. Of the name cubies that could be in the mix here for having a new team in 26. Like, is there a value on a Kylo Murray or for cousins to like any possibilities of a name. I'm not even mentioning of like, hey, it's not a great draft class. Maybe there's a team that
feels like, hey, can we just raise our floor? Like Denver was always trying to do all those years after
Manning where it was like, oh, this can't be that much worse. And then it, unfortunately, as well as that defensive run, like, that should have been recognized and sustained how great that defense was post-manning. And it was just like, yeah, we have the low average floor. Yeah, right. We're crying. But it's not going to work. Is there anyone that you think that could just potentially be available that is even worth it to the next team? The guy that's kind of again underrated, and I think he could be cheap and
what this team gets weird with him, and you never know if him is genome smith. Is that because I think that the cost of acquiring him might be less than some of these other guys you're getting, and you still might depends on team, but say he goes to the Vikings. That is an incredible playstyle fit with a scheme fit. And for what the, for the Vikings are at, like, Vikings, I mean, they're letting go of Aaron Jones to Von Hargrave, like they're in such a, they're such a weird
team to me and fascinating team to me, because the coaches are betting on themselves big time. So we'll see how that kind of goes. But, like, you know, there's one that I think has is going kind of underrated nationally, because yeah, the last season was hell, and he didn't help it, but no one was helping that. The offense line was atrocious. Peacars son was coaching it. They're so sloppy. Like, they're, I think they're going to improvement just having an adult in the room this
next year. And that offensive line room, I think Chip Kelly was not, you know, then seemed like you wanted to be there. He just was like, okay, maybe the highest paid offensive coordinator in NFL history,
later. And I, I think that that was always just a, I was curious about it. And then after the first
week, I was like, this, I don't think this is going to work. So he's got to kind of, like, really underrated this process. Because even look, like, the backup trade QB market is more fascinating to me than any of these kind of retrends. I brought a 10 or McKee before, but Tyson Beijing with the
“bears, Spencer Rattler. Like, those dark throws are interesting to me. If you want to include”
Malik Willis, that's not a trade, but like a guy that can sign, those dark throws are a little bit more interesting. But Gino, like Rodgers doesn't push the ball anymore. And Rodgers. So it's like, I know what you are now. So why, you don't handle protections that you don't push the ball. Why would I pay an old vet that's not going to like, truly help us? I thought Cousins Kirk Cousins played
Better when he came back after Pentech's injury last year as opposed to 2024.
it was kind of underrated how he played the second half of last year. Like, he's more physically, it just wasn't there at all. He couldn't handle all off one way because he couldn't push
off his foot. I've never seen anything like that. Well, bring up old paid manning. Maybe that would
be the other example. 2015 paid manning. They did the same thing. They had to go to the pistol because
“they couldn't go under center because he couldn't push off. And that's what QB I got to do with”
manning and manning and hated it because they're doing all the zone stuff. Manning, you could tell manning was like, like, you physically, because that takes a lot of the quarterback to get out there from under center and like manning physically couldn't do it. So they had to move to the pistol. It's a try to help him out. Yes, it's his wide hand off that you're talking about, right? Yeah. So like he's getting, he's getting like almost horizontal. Yes, it's basically
you have to run. But you really have to get out because to do it right, like he's to get the ball
on the right of Ex-AIDS. And he, like legitimately physically couldn't do it. And neither could
cause it's so they had to go into the pistol from him. But I did think last year it was a little better. Like so like to me, Gino's the one that I think is interesting and underrated. Kyler just, I like Kyler more than the national kind of consensus as far as the lead does, the league is super low on it. Like super low. And I get the frustrations. The Call of Duty memes and all that. But Drew Petsing in 2024 in Arizona, like, Kyler played like a top 12 guy in
a very real offense. It wasn't the gimmicky Cliff King's very air raid plus kind of offense. And he played like a good QB. But then last year he just 25, he just devolved. Like just was all was bad, habits bailing out the pocket, not throwing over the middle all that stuff. But Kyler is interesting to me because he has at least touched that like good quarterback tier. But I understand why it's stock super low. But yeah, short answer Gino. Okay. What a great way to end it, man.
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imagine. Best of all kids, I am liquid. So now you know what's possible. Let me tell you what's required. Life advice, live advice, [email protected], it is Kyle and myself today. I don't know any what schedule. So Serruti, I think he's in the Bahamas and then he text us a mock draft this morning and I would like, oh Serruti's back. I can't quit us. He can't. Is it the Bahamas? I think it is. Yes, Bahamas, yeah. Good. Nice retention there. Do you better the Bahamas ever?
Now, Jamaica, that's it. I got a nice standing invite for the Bahamas though. So I might have to figure out how to pull that off. Standing invite. Yeah. Pretty, pretty good thing to do down there. Hotel here. Is that how you say that? Hotelier. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what's taken me so long. But yeah, love to do it. Yeah, what is taking you so long? Standing invite.
Yeah, you know, vacations were always here. I had to save up my vacations to come here.
And now I'm here with my curtain and, I mean, I don't know, that's guys limit. I got to start thinking about what real vacations look like. It's just sort of a no-brainer. I was going to go back to the Crown Jewel. Which part of Jamaica? Man, I don't know. I was freshly, I was freshly 18, actually. So it was definitely,
“it was a resort. Like, we went over Thanksgiving because it was like, you don't remember the town?”
It was a resort, man. I don't know where we were. It was like, I was, I tried to get out. It was a real smoke bay. I tried to get out my parents were like, we're not doing that stuff. And I like planned a little escape with my brother. And then he, like, my older brother, and he chickened out. So we were like, all right, I mean, I think I turned 18 like four days before this happened. So I got the wristband, you know, and it was like a little bit out of control.
And like day three and I'm like, listen, if you can't pull it together, I'm sniping that wristband
Off your wrist.
and drier whatever it was just like you turned, it's like, you can drink it. Yeah, to make it for the first time.
I can't imagine. Yeah, you can't think of what they expected. Yeah, I don't know where family was that fancy, though, Kyle Kyle selling us this blue collar. It was, hey, we were, we were jersey sure guys.
“And it was, uh, yeah, it was, it was cheaper on Thanksgiving. That's why we went there.”
So yeah, we spent Thanksgiving in Jamaica. That is wild. So you don't even remember which town you were. No super cat, maybe power. We were in like a nice, a nice thing. I tried to get down. See what was around. I couldn't just couldn't got sold some really horrible weed. And spent a lot of time getting red stripes for the employees found all the little like, uh, you know, like electrical boxes where the dudes would hang out. And they'd be like, yeah, that's like
you had an hour to tell. Like, yeah, you bring us three more. We'll give you whatever. I sold my G-shock to a guy. My Cassio G-shock watch. Like, came to my hotel room and knocked on the door and I was like, oh, no, I just, uh, he helped me find something earlier. I left something on the beach. Uh, anyway. Is it a first international moment? Yeah. Yeah. Really? What? Did you have to declare anything? Like, I didn't buy anything. But I sold the G-shock. No, no, he had, he had American
DaNaro. So we didn't have to know and worry about, uh, a little exchange. I can feel like I was a
million followers here. But how did you start again negotiating with a local on the G-shock? How did
that work? There was like a bunch of, I was just sitting at bars by myself, really trying to kind of gearing up for my sort of life today, you know. Uh, and so I would just, you know, hop around, there was a bunch of different places to get exactly. There was a bunch of different places to go. And then, you know, I'd go smoke my cigarette. You're not like supposed to smoke at the bar. So I'd go, like, you know, off to the side. And then there was like, you know, just a guy there working on
some equipment or whatever. And I'm talking to him. And then, you know, I'm drinking a red stripe. And
“he, I think he asked me if I could get him one or something. And I was like, yeah, of course, man.”
When it went around, he said, you're beating me around back. There's like three other dudes. And it's just like, you know, a couple of back and forth. Now, everyone's got red stripes. We're smoking shitty weed. And we were just talking. One of the younger guys was like, oh, is that G-shock? Like, yeah. And he was like, you know, let me see if I can get some money together. And then I'll buy it off you know, I'm like, yeah, dude, you do that. Let me know. Like the next day, he was like, I got the money.
Like, all right. I think a big reason for more than it was going for in the states. I think he gave me 80 bucks for it. It was old. It had like a big scratch on it. It was red. Honestly, didn't go with a lot of shit that I was wearing at that time. But, you know, there was a certain time when G-shock was like the biggest thing there was for a dude, my age. Yeah, I just wanted 80 bucks cash. And I was, he was really happy. I was like, ready to get rid of it. Tell me, Pele or what, like, it wasn't
matching or yeah, it was just like, I didn't have a lot of red. It was just like a bright red, you know, plastic watch. You know, I think I even traded my friend for it for like a different watch or something. You know, it was just I was ready to let it go. It was okay. And he seemed like it was the coolest thing he ever saw. And, you know, I was happy with 80 bucks at the time. So, remember. Yeah, sounds
“a good good trade. That's like the way shit you should get done, right? We should try set out”
the red G-shocks to see because I don't know if there's like big scratch though, big, big scratch. Like, some might even say a crack. You know, I don't know. Anyway, yeah, I'd love to get back to the promise. I still want to do another Jamaica thing, but I don't, I just the only time I could go. It's like, I don't want to go to our spring break. You know, like, hey, what's up, man, you with your head? I don't give it to you. The big 10 was better
of this year. Uh, you're seven. Like, I hate to look at just a loser sometimes. Oh, yeah, Capba. Yeah, we had Capba in Vermont. I knew it. All right. Let's get to some emails here. We had a few on the bad weed purchase. So we had a few passionate weed people reach out to the pot last couple of weeks that weren't super psyched about some of the generalizations. Oh, but I mean, I think, look, I think specific to that living arrangement that that guy had. And then I'm
speaking from some of my own experience of a couple of guys that I've looked with. So yeah, if I was being a little too targeted at the people that I've lived with that really love the reaper. Yeah, that's probably what I was referencing. Everybody else do you. Yeah, we guys are cool. The only problem I had was when they'd be like, we'd be ready to go and they're like, hold on, bro. Let me roll
up something first. And it's like, we can't do anything until you get this done. Come on.
Time management. There's a lot of like, hey, you know, come on, you guys would be interested with yourself. You know, time management could be a problem with your heart of the go. Like, we just told them we were leaving in five minutes. Like for it. Well, and then it kind of shows up like that
Surprised.
Can't wait for all the play emails you're getting to those emails. No, because it doesn't
be like to be losing it. Like every single guy knows, like, yes, one is way less hostile and safer. Yeah. Check to the statistics, bro. Yeah. No one is making that argument. All right. Uh, cancel a hot chick to go to Guatemala. Here we go. This is what we're here for. Six foot, 170, 27-year-old engineer living in Brooklyn. No crazy impressive gym stats are someone that goes three, four times a week before work. Well, that's pretty good for work. Three, four times a
week before work. Do about 20 pull-ups. Well, that's an insane stat.
“According to an online player comp website, I play like, I think he means Chevy Osman.”
There's a misspelling here. I can't imagine it's anyone else. Um, see if we get IT on what that online player comp website is. Here's the email. My pilot friend added me to his flight benefits this year to give me a chance to travel stand by for free for one of the largest airlines in my
US. I don't even have you done a stand by ever. I've never done that. Yeah. I do. I'm so old. I paid cash once
for my ticket. That is old. Yeah. Well, I'll probably not as old as I think, right. I mean, yeah, but you know how like the older movies you guys just showed up. He's like, I need a flight. Yeah, one ticket. Uh, one ticket, uh, one ticket. Yeah, four, please. Yeah, 17-year-old. Yeah, I need to get out of here. But yeah, I don't think I had a card that stage my life and I was flying is like in the 90s. So, maybe it's not that outrageous, but it seems outrageous today. He's like walk up to the
astray as much freshly sautored shot. He's just still open. But I think the first time I was on the plane anyway was 17. So it was like, I always find a little replace comparison to that with this. Uh, anyway, um, stand by. Yeah. Well, I don't know. I mean, if he's just a little, they weren't saying for you though, right? Isn't that what standby is? You just get there ready to go and like, maybe somebody doesn't show up? Is that really what it is? That by definition is what standby is.
Is anyone that knows the steamship authority game? That's so wack. Like, maybe we'll get you on this one and you're just like waiting. Yeah, I think that's pretty much what it is. Maybe with more
“information and technology now, you have like a better chance of better idea of whether you should”
we are gay or not. Okay. Like, these are my chances, but I'm not in a percent sure because I can tell you right now if somebody was like, hey, stand by. I'm not. I'm be like, okay, what's the next one? I'm not. Maybe not going. Yeah. All right. The only issue is, uh, there's an open flight. Wait, he, I jumped ahead here. We get excited with the stand by that. No, it's my fault. It's a chance to do hybrid. What's the hat? There's a chance to learn for me. You know, past those up, you know,
nah, that's all right. We're good. We're good. I'm starting a new hybrid job recently, limited on pay time off. So mostly, I use it for a long weekend trips. My friends, my friends plural. Uh oh, guys, got a lot of friends. Just inviting me to do a famous hike and go out of all this weekend and their happens to be an open flight that I can take Thursday night to make it in time for the hike. The only issue is I have a date schedule with the hottest girl. I've
ever had a chance with C photo, which I have to cancel. Um, she is attractive. Sorry to the audience, but I don't think we could do this on Netflix. Um, that would be, I mean, obviously we wouldn't do that, but um, she actually canceled our first mandate this weekend because she was sick and asked when I could reschedule for it to which I said I'm busy until Thursday and we decided to schedule for that. And so if I cancel, I worry, uh, might lose all momentum as modern dating often does when
you struggle to get the first date rolling. I could always go to Guatemala another time alone,
which wouldn't be as fun. I also have had the flight benefits for two months already and I may able to get as much use out of it as I'd like. Um, I haven't been able to get as much use out of it as I'd like. So I really need to make sure I don't waste the opportunity this year. Should I go on the date or go to Guatemala side note, a quick Google search on this girl's first name, and college showed me she works in my building, which I don't love, but I think she's hot enough
to take the risk. The funny thing is I was featured in life advice, aka we read in email. Um, years ago, because I had a thing with one of my neighbors that got kind of messy and Ryan said
“the only thing worse than dating a neighbor is dating someone from the office. So thanks,”
fellas, to this day, Tony Allen was still one of the best all-time interviews. I would go to Guatemala. Um, the guy sent a picture of himself, good looking guy. This girl is definitely way better looking than you on the scale of things. Like, don't fence. I think you already understand that, like you out in the wild. How many times are people going to turn their head and look at you? I don't know. Um, everyone is going to look at this girl. So it depends on kind of where you're at.
It could be a power play, dude. It could be one cancel for a cancel, cancel for a cancel.
I think you should've got to go out of all too.
but I'm sure a hike scores more points in your ledger than it does in mind. So I think you
“really want to do this and you should do it. And, uh, you know, this might actually boost your”
points with her in some weird way or at least there's a way where you don't lose points. There could be. It could be definitely a risk. But, um, you know, you don't want to play it too hot when you're just like completely out of your league and you're like, oh my god, if I don't do this one, maybe we lose all momentum. Like, they can maybe got to boost your own confidence and maybe she does want to go out with you, buddy. And maybe it doesn't have to be Thursday. Maybe it could be
Saturday, next Saturday. I don't know. Well, you don't know what you're dealing with. You don't have any advanced scouting that you're sharing with us here. So I mean, there's two simple ways if you go is that you could be completely, um, like, normal person who's like, oh my god, you can go to Guatemala. If right. If you'll see. There's no friends hitting me up when you're back, that would be I think the way most normal people would react to your set of circumstances or she
could be completely rational and just be like, I can't believe this guy can't so completely thinking, you know, I mean, it would be a sign of your selfishness and then when it doesn't
work out, you just like, hey, it was never going to work out. Anyway, but we also know that that's like,
you know, if this guy's young enough, maybe he's not exactly planning the family and he's taking a good missing out. I'll tell you as you get older. Well, I guess it all really depends. It's just depends on like what you had, a surplus of versus other parts of your life where you're like, I wish I had done more of these things in my friends. And I certainly am in the bucket of like, I wish I had done more stuff in my friends. So I would tell you as your guy going to Guatemala
with all of your friends is going to be something like you're probably only going to do once maybe never have the chance to do it again with all of these guys. And again, listen to some of the other emails. Dude's turned north of 30 with a deep, old pen of friends by 33. I like I don't even want to, you know, it's five o'clock. You're at the gym. You're like, I think I'm going to go out tonight. And then it's 730 post dinner and you're like,
see what the wizards are doing. So yeah, you just hope that you would understand. So I would I would do that. I would give her the heart cell on. I hate doing this. And I know that you
were sick. And I don't want to make it seem like I'm canceling. But here's what's on the table.
“And I would love to get you something to go out of my way. Nice woodcarv souvenir. Yeah, that's what”
it's going to say. That clearly handmade, you know, a so long handmade. I like it. So yeah, pick something out online from the airport. Okay, Tom Brady, autographed hat dilemma. This is specific. What's up? 40 years old, living in the Bay Area. 61, 185, bench 205 for reps don't squatter dead lifts since a low back injury, but currently training to swim across Lake Tahoe this summer 10 mile swim 7,000 feet
altitude, 6 degree weather. Whoa, that is pretty bad. I'm writing in for advice on how to get my hat back. This weekend was unseasonably warm. And my friend Johnny was in town visiting from Sacramento. Sat down. Yeah. So we decided it's been the afternoon or a local country club pool having drinks by the pool while our kids swim. They're about five guys. They're total all dads who have daughters between ages of 7 and 10. Johnny owns a plumbing HVAC company in Sacramento. It previously
given, I guess. All right. Well, I don't know. I mean, maybe it's an ad for HVAC, but I don't want to put this guy's plumbing company in a bad spot here. But anyway, previously given buds plumbing hats out to all of his friends that we wear around from time to time both because they are cool hats and help advertise our friends business. Is that what life advice is just becoming is just little Easter eggs to do ads. We may have been open to open to
a Pandora's box here. And I'm sorry for my pardon if so. No, not at all because it was really started with the YouTube travel channel guys. Who, by the way, wrote the nicest email not to us necessarily. Well, it was nice to us. But to the audience, they were like it was like 98% incredibly positive. And I'd like the guy was blown away. So that's a credit to the listeners and the viewers for you being so nice to a couple of trying to figure out if they're going to be full-time travel
people on YouTube. All right. So we'd recently arrived at the pool. We were a drink or two in when we saw none other than the goat himself step out into the terrace overlooking the pool deck.
“I think we know who that is. Yeah. Well, we know. It's a relatively nice country club,”
but it's on every day. We see a celebrity of Tom status there. So this is quite exciting for us. This email just picked up. He was relatively close to where we were sitting so we could over here
that he was attending a baby shower going on inside. None of us bothered in the first. What was that?
He was only, I think, great to do whatever he wants.
all-time goat move. Just dropping on this baby shower, he turned up to 100. None of us bothered him
“at first. And he was only out by the pool for a few minutes before disappearing back inside the club.”
Our daughters were initially oblivious to what had occurred that we explained to them who he was. I just hold on to me. I just thought about one thing. Can you imagine all the dudes who figured out excuses to get out of that baby shower? And then Tom Brady just opened. Like all their wives are like, "Oh, dude, this guy, if you heard it, yeah, you know Tom Brady right?" And they're like, "Tes?" They're like, "Yes." Anyway, good. I just think about how many baby showers I was like,
yeah, well, obviously, that's for the girls, right? And he's like, "Yeah, you know, you're invited, but you don't have to go like thinking about how many dudes took that exact route and then missed Tom Brady." Anyway. Yeah, and sounds like Tom checked out of this one too. So, none of us bothered him at first. He was the only one out by the pool for a few minutes before disappearing back inside of the club. Our daughters are initially oblivious to what had occurred,
but we've explained in who he was, and made a plan that we saw him come out again. One of the
“young girls of approach him and asked for an autograph. He was less embarrassing than a 40-year-old man”
asking for it. We stayed out there a couple more hours, and sure enough, just before leaving, he came back out of the terrace. And we quickly gathered one of the girls to approach him. He was extremely kind, personal gracious, and quickly agreed to sign something for Johnny's daughter, but given that we were all swimming and had little more that are bathing suits with us. The only dry item nearby for him to sign was my bud's plumbing hat. Johnny had given me in the past. Johnny's daughter brought it over
to him, and he took pictures with the kids and made an amazing memory. They won't soon forget.
Sounds like you guys aren't going to forget it either. Johnny's daughter held on tightly to that hat afterwards, and we soon all disappeared in a winter separate way. So, it's been a day now, since it's occurred. So, this is new. And I'm thinking about how to get my hat back nonstop. I texted Johnny earlier this morning saying, going to need my hat back when he had a chance, and all he did was give it the ha-ha stamp. Who wasn't even a written-ah? Yeah, given that I'm a father,
myself, I would normally defer to letting the kid keep the hat, but she has no real interest in football, and would not even have known who Tom Brady was if we didn't make it to be dealer. Dude, are you serious? She doesn't even like Brady as much as I did. I, on the other hand, in my huge Brady fan, he moved into England during three of the six superballs there. The hat was originally given to me by Johnny, but over a year ago now, and I'm worried he's going to keep it now for the
autograph himself. You see, well, his daughter, as an excuse, and reason he can't give it back to me. So, my question is, how can I go about getting my Tom Brady autographed hat back without seeing him like a huge jerk who was stealing from a child? Dude, the deck is stacked against you.
First of all, his kid, his hat, you know what I mean? I don't know. I don't want to do like this
ownership thing, but like he threw his, you know, his little worker be into the race. You did it. So, like, there we go. And he can also give you a different hat. You know what I mean? That wasn't signed by Tom Brady, because just because you were, I mean, again, the vessel for the autograph was the kid. You didn't have the stones to go up there and ask Tom Brady for an autograph. He might have shut you down. Honestly, I don't think I would have had the stones to do it.
So, because you didn't, you just kind of have to roll with the punches here. I think he's going to use the kid defense, and I think he's going to have the hat for himself. I think, you know, whether or not that's right or wrong, he's got all the cards. You don't have the cards. Yeah. I think you're screwed, man, because the HaA stamp is the first, you know, confirmation of what's going to be like him thinking your delusional.
Right? I mean, a granite, it could mean a million different things. It could mean HaA,
like good one, yeah, I'll get it back to you. But it'd be one thing if it was just your hat, and that was the only thing that had to sign, but considering he's given you all of these hats. Now, I think some people are going to argue, hey, he gave you that hat. Therefore, that hat is yours, but it's your daughter that went up to Brady to autograph a hat that is his company that he originally
“gave you anyway. So, I think there's, here's the thing is that most people, as bad as you want,”
he does not want to give it to you. So, he's going to rationalize it with all the factors that college has brought up that you've explained in this email where I don't think you're necessarily wrong. Like if we were all wearing shirts and there was one that was missing, like the only one that was available was the shirt that I wore that day and then Brady signed that shirt. Does that mean that the kid now keeps my shirt and the dad keeps the shirt because the kid went up to do the autograph thing.
But this is like a whole another category because everybody has these hats and he's handed all these hats out to you guys. It could probably get you a non-special hat that you would rather not have. Yeah, principle isn't that you're out of a hat. The principle is who gets the Tom Brady hat. Because was she just going up to get the autograph and it happened to be that your hat was the one
That was around and everybody assumed that she was getting the autograph for ...
Like did you think was it ever talked about that way? I wanted Tom Brady to think so.
Yeah, right, but like in any point, had anyone agreed consensus wise of like whatever or sign whoever that belongs to that autograph is then going to go to that person. There's no way. Like this could be a friend altering thing. So I had to have to be a variety. Why couldn't
“have been someone else, you know? Why didn't have to be taught like the the very top of the Ken Jennings?”
Yeah, yeah, you're co-coachery somebody that's like that's cool, but what if what if pivot from Ken Jennings to I think an underrated receiver. I think so too. All the jet fans say I'm crazy, but I thought it was pretty good. I was fine. He wasn't one, but he was good. All right. Let's see. Do you think he's so long bring it up in person with this guy in a funny way or? Yeah, I think it's worth another pass. Another another chance. Yeah, maybe not the medium of
text, but maybe another way to where you can actually be like, well, so what do you mean by that? Well, you're going to know when he doesn't give it back to where you stand. Yes, so it's really going to be up to you to go. I'd want to look him in the eyes when he says no, though. I would. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, make it make it a little tough for on him. But yeah, you know,
“you know what's going to happen is the hat's going to be in the girls room hanging on something”
and you're going to have to cross that bridge of like I want the hat and I want to take it from your young daughter who actually got the autograph. So could you pitch maybe trying to forge Brady signature on one of those other Buds hats? Well, that's now you do a lot of your enthusiasm. That's yeah, go out. I mean aren't it takes life. So I don't know. I don't think you want to get in the forgery game. Maybe not.
Cross my mind anyway. Although I know I told the story before, but when we were at the minor league baseball team, if you're standing around the players, the kids would come up with a baseball just who will squiggle on the edge and just like shout out to my guy Mike Wynn of the die hards where he told the story of like a mom one time, there's some spring training thing
and she was just like just sign it in front of him, please. You know it's taken there was this episode everybody loves Raymond. One of the great shows in our house and it's like there's an episode where you know as a kid, you know, Raymond's dad came
and like basically signed a Mickey Manel ball and told him that he went to the game and got it
for him. Before like the internet was heavy like how many do how many kids do you think thought they had like some awesome signed baseball that you know, their plan wasn't ever to sell it, but at least for those years as a kid they thought they had some cool shit like it must be it must happen a lot back then. When I first first cracked like not wondering if I would have enough money for utilities the first thing I did is I started buying some autographs. Yeah right, like I was like all right
I went from like will the water be on to I'm loaded by a nice used SUV and now on to buy some autographs and there is one to this day that I know is so fake. Oh man who is I'm not going to say I'm not going to say because I actually don't have any I only have like one autograph now except I have a couple like joke ones from friends that signed a jersey and then write something ridiculous on the jersey to me. Think I've seen what that's in your house. That's actually kind of funny
like yeah but I don't I don't have like any kind of memorabilia except for one thing and then
“this kind of but early on I was like I'm going to get in the game and I'll never forget like the eBay guy”
the seller somehow tracked down my cell phone number and called me and was like so you know how like eBay you had to pay within 24 hours whatever. That's what I wanted to do. Yeah right and I had them you know probably me I probably took a take a day like oh you know let me not transfer the phones immediately and he was so sketchy on the phone and I did the transaction it showed up it look great and there was all these certification cards which you can't really make any sense because
it was a picture of the person autographing a jersey so it's like so what does that mean? To this day I'm like I know I got I got a post on that deal. Yeah I hit eBay pretty hard in college
yeah I'm not gonna lie that was like the first time I felt like yeah I'm doing pretty good let me
bid on a couple things yeah ridiculous ridiculous concept and then just like whoa I won
I got a beauty of eBay's model was the competitive nature of people.
Yeah I try to get on at weird times of the night and be like dude I'm going to get this for
“12 bucks watch it's like a never no it's the whole I don't blame you it's the whole world being the game”
long time ago and I was in it and I was feeling good feeling great about myself
winning something like man this is awesome except I may have lost that day and I may have lost big
“all right that'll do it for the show today thanks to Tom Kevin Kyle and I think yeah so he's back”
Wednesday I don't know I'm not charged with him so that'll do it for the show today Ryan was
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