The Wildly Deep 2027 QB Draft Class w/ Todd McShay. Plus, Actor Adam Scott!

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had seven QBs going in the first round, the McShate report, and then of course, I was listening

to him and meant to chop it up about the important players in college football this season,

“on the McShate show, part of Ringer and Spotify. So good to see you, man. How are you?”

I'm doing good, brother, how are you? Good, all right. Good to see you, you know, I'm relaxed, long day with, you know, a couple different shows, but this is a perfect way to end it with my guy. Bit of a bit of a, you know, IPO chart on the summer for me, a lot of ups, a lot of downs, but we're just, you know, even Keel, ready to go right at the horizon as football is ready to start. You have seven, I know you hate doing that April mock for next April and 27. It's just

I don't remember what you guys have to do it. You have seven QBs going in the first round. Do you think that'll happen? I mean, probably not, but absolutely could. It's like six if it's not seven. Normally, normally I get overexcited the drafts over. I'm in a good mood. We've got to knock out this way to early mock draft. I throw like, I, you know, and then I get, and I start watching the tape and the summer, I'm like, oh, I wish I didn't, you know,

yeah, he's not it. I actually like more quarterbacks now after watching the top 14 of them,

“I think I watched the summer all the way down to like my Ava material, Master Maker Hoover.”

Like I, we might have been 16 of them when we were all said and done. I like more of them

is legit like first second day guys and legit potential future NFL starting quarterbacks than I ever

imagined. It's, it's an unbelievable group. Now, with, nearly all of them, it's like, I'm banking

South Carolina is arch going to take that next step in his development with Cam Coleman and after a

“rocky season that ended, ended strong and, you know, is this mess to make your cat any good at this”

level at Oklahoma State and I'm expecting, um, I'm expecting Demon Williams to continue to elevate and so there's a lot of guys with an expectation that they're of growth, right, that I'm kind of counting on, but I also see enough in all of them to think that they have it in them and the circumstances for almost all of them are better than they were a year ago. Let's start with arch. I'm sure you probably put some more time into it when you had some downtime. If you had a bet,

I imagine the best odds, even though I know Dante's in the conversation in sellers and we're going to get to all of these guys, but arch seems like hey, if you had to pick one that's going to

go number one overall, he's the safest bet. Is that fair? It could be fair. I've got him as the fifth

rank quarterback right now. You have him fifth in this class, okay? Fifth. And like, I was just at Manning Passing Academy, Cooper's one of the best human beings I've ever been around, I've texted with Archie all the time, helped the Archie the last 15 years, but together to list for the Manning Passing, like I'm, they're like, I don't want to oversell it, but like, like, I get along with the, with the, with the mannings. Um, I actually think I'm doing them

“not a favor, it's certainly, but like, I think, I think things were so far skewed coming in the”

last year and the expectations were so stupidly absurd. With not only is he, like, potential number one overall draft pick, he is for 2026 and he's the heisman trophy front runner and he's, and Texas is going to win a national championship. And like, we haven't even, so I'm starting a couple games, like, spot duty, essentially, waiting for, so like, what are we doing? Because he's got Manning on the back of his jersey. And by the way, that Manning looks nothing like the uncles

and how they played the quarterback position. In fact, it's kind of polar opposite. Like, when we think of a Manning, you think pocket passing, cerebral ball might be a little wobbly, but it gets there, leading receivers, smartest guy in the room, demanding excellence. You know, like, an arch is like this really chilled cat who people would absolutely like stand

“in front of a train for because he's because he has this kind of like real connection with people,”

and he's, and yeah, he has the size, but he's built athletically. He's strong in the pocket, breaks tackles when he accelerates. I, going back and watching tape versus kind of in the season,

I didn't realize how fast he is. Like, first 10 yards fast. It's like, um, and he's got this

playmaking instinct about him. And he started to grab his balls a little bit at the end of the year. Like, like, um, this is my team. And like, like, over my dead body stuff and finally, like, let's go. And so you see that element of him. But I'll be honest with you, as a passer, it starts with his eyes. His feet don't follow sometimes. He gets kind of this fuster element. And he just kind of expect because he is a manning that he's going to be a lot more refined with

where he's going with the ball, the footwork, the mechanics and all those stuff. And he's just not yet. Does that mean he can't be? No, but, but he, he has to, he's got to show a lot of progression. There are a lot of throws you watch Ryan where it's like, he can't miss that. And, and why do you miss that? And then you try to study the why and the, and, and the why leads to different reasons and it's not all the same thing. So there's work that's got to be done.

I know he's putting in the work and he's certainly as a, like, a receiver who's just a special special talent in Cam Coleman coming in and Cam Coleman's even better than people think. So that's going to be fun to watch. But he's not there yet. So I'm, I'm kind of putting him down there. Like, go ahead, climb that ladder, prove that you, that you can kind of be the, the quarterback that everyone wants you to be. But, like, let's, let's, let's back off this expectation that he's,

that he's the number one overall pick and he's the guy and this is Texas this year. Because I get more news for you. I don't even know that, that the mannings are looking at this is, like the, the swan song at Texas. There's a, there's a long history of manning sticking around that extra year that people didn't think they're going to stick around until they're right. And they feel like they're ready. And I won't be surprised at all if he's in the 2028 draft.

Okay. I, you know, you hear a lot, but based on what you just told us about the relationship there, too, like we have to listen to you on that one. Because it's been flirted, you know, hey, they might not even do then no one ever believes that. But you're right, the historian and you say and I think gives it a little bit more. But there's a path, too, like I don't want to, I,

a little bit more consistency, nobody else in this class is 65, 232 pounds and runs kind of like

he does and has that combination of things, you know. So there's a clear path for him to, it's kind of like horses coming around the stretch, like it's just about like this, he does he catch the stride and have a safe path. The path is there to see, but it does he make those corrections and all of a sudden hits his stride and in this, his, his, what could be his final year, if he chooses for it to be, if he does, yeah, sure, he, he, he absolutely like, there's no

question in my mind, he can be a great starting quarterback in the league and he's got hugely, you know, bright future ahead of him. It's just, if we're talking about where these guys are now, his tape is not as good as people want it to be and it's not as bad as some people are hoping it will be, you know, it's somewhere in the middle. Yeah, it's almost like three different parts of the season where, you know, everything's on the line that our house day came and you've got two

young quarterbacks where it felt like both play colors on both sides, but like let's just try to have to lose this game and that's a bunch of losing it and I'm sure over, right? And then the San Jose state game gets kind of built up and I remember like the stats look good, but I watch that

“game because I want to just keep watching them. I was like, this isn't very good and I think that”

first third of the season, there may have been some nice box scores, but it didn't look very good,

and then we kind of got off of them and he starts playing better and then we're all building to the Georgia thing and that's where the offensive line issues for Texas show up and as bad as it was in 25, it wasn't even close to his horrifying as it was in 24 when Georgia went at that Texas team and Carson Beck still trying to lose that game for Georgia and that's when, you know, arches like, hey, let's have him run around there instead of you or Sarah a little bit.

But as the season went on, I think the thing that I like the most about him and if there was, if we sat there and said, let's put together the perfect quarterback and the foundational things that you would want to have, there's all sorts of stuff that's cool, but mobility in the pocket in awareness of things collapsing around him, which is something that he had to learn the hard way as that offensive line got worked, which is, you know, a big reason why I'm like,

I want to pick Texas to win the whole thing, but it has to be so much better than it was last year. You could look at 25 as like a great learning experience for him because he had to learn how to get those off-platform throws out and I thought a lot of that stuff was important because, you know, we sit there and we get excited about arms strength and all this shit and it's like, okay, you throw it 35, 40 times in the game, like how many of those throws are actually clean.

10, like you're constantly kind of moving around and stuff. So I think there's a combination with his athleticism and his smarts that it was, I'm like, okay, well, if he has that part of it, then I feel way better about it than, then maybe some of the other guys that I think can put up huge numbers and have a lot of tool stuff, but it's like, okay, but what do you look? Like, what is that mobility not out of the pocket, but inside the pocket?

Yeah, and there's so much encouraging about the way he endured what happened in the beginning of the year. That wasn't easy, man. Like, with all that hype and to go out and literally like Mike Tyson comes out of the corner and knocks your ass out and you spin around and you're looking embarrassing, like as you go down and fall to the, fall of the map.

“That's what that Ohio State game was like, it was bad. It was bad. I didn't know where to go with”

the ball looked panicked. Feet weren't right. It's like he forgot in some, in some ways, it looked like he kind of forgot how to play the position and then now everyone's like going back to high school and it's like, he didn't, you know, he didn't play good. Yeah, high level high school and he got away with it. He's been the most overhyped and ever, I knew it. I knew what I've been telling ever. And so like, you know, like, yeah, well, he's a manning. He knows how to compartmentalize

all this. He'll be fine. But like, he's a human being and he's 21 years old or whatever. You know, me like, like, that shit ain't easy. It's not easy to read about how horrible you are and how

we overhyped you've always been. And so, and then to know and then to start questioning your own

reality, right? And to have your own sort of like kind of, well, let's, let's kind of reduce, let's get our eyes right here. Let's make sure we're doing this. We can expand the playbook when we need, but like, then you're starting to feel this of, do, does everyone else believe in me the way that they, I thought that they would, you know, so to overcome all of that, under that spotlight, it's like a fascinating study in in human confidence and, and also like,

“just how, how you work through something. I think I want all of these guys to have adversity,”

not because I want to see them do something bad, because I think everyone that comes out in the league that has had some real adversity, whether personal life, game, situation, whatever it is, it seems like those guys have a much higher chance of succeeding in the NFL than the ones who come

like, and I don't mean to single anyone out, but I'm just saying like, Liner, it's not going to be

happy, like something like that. I love Matt, but I think, I think it's, like, let's be honest,

“compared to some of the adversity, some other guys who go through, I think it's important to have”

some that adversity. And hopefully we look back at 2025 and it's exactly that. All right, I need to go quicker. I just figured we still are time on arch there. No, no, no, I need to, like, I'm the one that I follow up thought on this. So who has the best tape then? Two guys jump out in terms of best tape, like in one, I think best tape, I mean, this isn't traits. It's more like balls out on time, accuracy, touch. Eyes, eyes working, left

right, all that stuff. Dante more and Darian Mensa. They're the best to pure pocket passing

quarterbacks coming back in college football. And Dante's wasn't always beautiful and there's

some areas he's got to improve and there's some big moments where you'd like to see him be able to carry or at least limit damage. There's also sometimes, I think if you really go back and track some of his mistakes or throws that you want back, not all of them, but there's a higher percentage and you're like with like up the middle pressure feels boxed in and kind of doesn't make, you know, and I don't say panic, but a little like, you know, and Mensa certainly not perfect, but Mensa, Mensa was one of

two or three like, wow, blown away by how much better than I thought just watching games on Saturday because I hadn't sat here in this room, dim the lights, studied the tape, and done it this way yet, and I'm watching him, and I kept asking myself, okay, so how big of a difference is there between he and that guy in Eugene? Because that ball's, and that's my own time, and leading that guy, my gosh, that rewind it, and it's like, pause it here, and the receivers, like, has any sniffed his

break, and he throws it 15 yards back corner and zone, and it's like, so, and by the way, this guy is more mobile, and has a little more creativity than, than dot date does. So, I'm expecting a huge year from Dary and Mensa, he's like next up, right? Camor, Carson Beck, next up. And with Malik Itoni and some of the weapons they brought in, he know that old lines going to be coached up, well,

“I could see Miami making a serious run this year, and I think Mensa could become one of the big”

stories in college football early on. So those would be the two or just watch like the pure passing tape. More, you know, look, if you wanted to beat up on him, you could, because that Indiana game, it's funny too, because I was looking at it, it's morning, and you forget that they actually tied it up at seven after that pick, you know, like, all right, everybody, oh, I did two, I did two, and now, like, okay, seven seven, and then they, yeah, they drive it down seven,

seven, here we go, and there's a 14 place, 75 yards. Yeah, yeah, like, okay, okay, I forgot about this. I definitely forgot about it. I told you then, you're like, okay, they scored again pretty quick with their offense. So if I want to be, and I want to be positive about it, right? Like, okay, they got their doors blown in by the team that was, was better than everybody else with Indiana, but I like the Penn State game, because there seems to be a smoothness, a calmness with more

“that isn't bullshit, you know, like I think sometimes you guys get out there, game winner,”

and they get in front, they know exactly like how to handle it with him. He plays like his demeanor matches his play, and if you're telling me, like, on the best side of it, which isn't just about technique and what he's seen out there, that there's a coolness to him, a calmness, that that shows up numerous times throughout 25, but him. It does, and there's this maturity about the way you handle things. There's calmness, as you say, even the ball he throws is like relaxed,

it's catchable. I like, you know, certain guys just, they make it hard, receivers fight to get

them a Carson Beck was an example, especially at Georgia, like I felt receivers were always working

to get the football. I'm feeling excited to describe it. You know, oh, I know exactly what you're talking. You know what I mean, right? It's kind of like, oh, it's crying. Because you can't even like if it's a crossing route, and you know your guide doesn't exactly have it to your numbers, you can't run the route as crisp as you want to, because you're kind of like playing catcher, going like, I'm drifting across. But if I run this thing full speed, it's going to be behind me.

It's going to be front of me, like, I've got to give him a better window, because I just know that it's not always going to be there. I think that's perfectly said. Yeah, and then you watch, it's like, it's like a lovely place to be or receivers, and Eugene Oregon, like the balls,

be able, I mean, there's so many options there, and I know they felt like they ran out of

“dudes, but I've looking at their depth chart going, are you kidding me? Well, Evan Stewart's back,”

I haven't heard much on him. I'm hoping he's, like, he's going to be the guy he was before, but anyway, so I just same thing with more, too, go ahead. Yeah, we obviously have been I mean, more was sensational last year, but he still was a true freshman, so. But let's put it this way. The raiders were midway through midway through the season, looking at the potential, having to make a choice, and getting kind of later in the season, and Dante more hadn't made

the decision he made, which, again, speak to maturity, much easier draft class to be in with Mendoza, because you don't go one year, you're going to go two, and deciding, like, I'm not ready, you know? But I just, and the raiders were split, like they were, they were really, it was a tough call between those two. So he's going to go early, and he's a damn good player, but they're definitely some areas. I want to see, like, okay, you're back, and will stines in Kentucky.

Like, this guy, this is quarterback whisper, who fixed bone next, which, by the way, in and of itself, should get you a head coach and job. What will Stein got from the Auburn quarterback to what he turned him into in two years at Oregon, and now we're seeing the carryover, like, that was it, that was a total like healing of the Auburn bone next still messes me up, talking about the Denver bone next, which is totally out there. I can't, I can't unsee some of that stuff still.

It probably fucked up my whole valuation on if I'm being honest. I saw too much it Auburn.

“Yeah, I'm right there with you, like, and then doing Gabriel, right?”

We talked, we talked, just NFL team into he's a third round draft pick.

I know. And so, but Dante, Dante in the year after didn't work with Chip that freshman year, has come kind of regroups it out of year, but he got him right to the point where he could have been the first overall pick, and he decided to come out. So how, is there any effect? What's that? No, I just was for anyone not falling along, they might have thought, Chip, with Eugene or something, but we're talking about UCLA. UCLA, sorry. Yeah. Anyway, so that'll be an interesting

to watch is there any, can we see that definitively that Will Stein's not there anymore? Okay, Lenora Sellers, you cannot quit Lenora Sellers, you have been, if you get this one right, this is all time stuff, because there's other people who just they mention like some more than I do. What? I didn't think anybody liked him more than you did, because some people do not like him. Menches putting him up in like Andrew luck great. He wants, he's like, he's, he's open a good year.

He can give him a 99 out of the 100 scale. I won't give him one of those. Okay, how about this? I'm going to, I'm going to just throw something at you here, and this is not perfect. So, okay. Watching sellers with that team in 25, all right, and this is like the old Josh Allen Iowa game thing. I mean, it's not the same thing, because it's South Carolina, and there's other NFL players all over the place. But the beauty of Josh Allen and that Iowa game is that you realized how bad it was for him.

And what I watched with Lenora's, whatever the hell is going on with their offense. And again, I understand his way better weapons, better offensive line than anything Allen had at Wyoming. But you have these, these drives where it feels like Lenora's is like the only one that's giving them any kind of chance at all. And that he's, it may not be pretty, but he's surviving considering it feels like the offense challenges that they have. That that's the positive version of this, because other people are looking at you thinking you, and we'll throw a mention there too,

that you guys sound crazy, that you keep falling in love with the physical gifts, and it's just not clicking the way that you would expect for somebody who's projected to be a top 10 pit. It's so much more than physical, physical gifts, and yes, he's as fast as he is twitching. And he's like, you could argue he and maybe demand Williams in a class with just loaded with athleticism, more so than we've ever seen before, like a potential draft class with this kind of speed,

“athleticism, and quarterback. I don't think we've ever seen before, okay?”

And yes, he has a rifle arm the ball just snaps off of his hand, and he makes throws from one hash to the other sideline, and it just rips it. The physical traits can be blinding, but I've been through a couple rotios with this, man. Like I know what's real and what isn't, and what I love watching even last year, when it was a mess,

and the offensive coordinator's fired, and now the bringing in Kendall Briles, and his offense is always score 50 points wherever he is.

So it's not just a projection of what he's, it's watching the development under horrible circumstances, and watching him not consistently enough yet, and there's some underneath throw, he's just got to

but like some spectacular throws that are not just off-platform and arm angles, like drop back, and rhythm, drill it, then some anticipation throws like, sometimes when a quarterback makes the throw, or I'm like, if I pause it in this moment, I'm like, fuck is he going with that ball? You know, like what, and then all of a sudden, you see that the arc and the receiver under, like so, and then you hear about him, the guy,

and he's quiet, and he's a man in passing academy two years ago, and I swear he didn't come back,

because like he ain't never going to be a camp counselor or coach, it's just not his thing,

but guys respect that hell out of him, and kind of that quiet lead by quiet or lead by example, smart as a whip picks things up. I think he's, I think he can be special, like really, really special. I really do, I think this guy, I don't think the world has any clue how talented it is, I really don't.

“You just want the whisper man on as talking about Lenora Sellers at that. I know you have to”

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side fingers in the mix. Raising Cains chicken fingers, one love. CJ Carr, I like them. I like them the receivers back too. Okay, now is it a non-starter for a guy who

“can't give you anything in the run game, a quarterback now for NFL teams?”

No, it's not a non-starter, but you better be as smart as CJ Carr, and you better have the ability to hit spots the way that he does. But it's certainly like it is different, man. I was talking earlier today, it's remarkable. It would be like me stopping right now, and for the next 15 years going to sudden that I was going to be an NBA scout. It's not totally dissimilar from what

my first 12 or so years, and by the way, playing the position, pop, Warner, high school,

college, but like being around that position basically does like nine years old, right? To what it has been in the last, let's call it 12 15 years, and the transition from that position. And it's been awesome to watch, but it's certainly like it's not. But then again, you look around the league, and even the mobile guys, they're, they're, they're, how much are they using their mobility, like truly, you know? And I see some, I see a pocket mobility with Carr,

and like the instincts that he has to move around and extend some plays that's that's functional enough.

“Like, I think he has, like, I think above average, like hanging tough side stepping, sliding,”

I think he has that ability, but he's just, he's just not much of a runner, you know? Like,

you're never going to design a run. He's never going to kill you with a, with a string multiple

moves together, but like the ball placement, especially over the middle of the field, down the seams, those, those throws, he's so smart, dude. He is so smart. He's, he's, he's the, I would argue, he's the, like, if you could, if you could, if you could test or call it like quantify, I guess, I'm clearly not smart. If, if you, if you could, if you could take a test, and we could see the grade of it. Thank you, sir. If, but he, what, he would, he would be the smartest, he would be the,

among the smartest, if not the smartest in this class. Like, he is on, yeah, Lloyd Carr's grandfather, he's been around ball his whole life, but the way he processes shit, it's different. It's just different. So best of all, yes, sir. Yes, if you could grade, if you could, everyone sat down and took a test. No, but I like this, though, like right now, I'm saying, like, okay, best pure arm talent out of this class, best. So you're saying CJ's the best process throughout everybody in this class,

based on the tape to this point. Yes. And, and I'll, like, just watching, like, being around

coverages and, and all that, like, and, like, leverages and seams and inverted safeties and,

and, and, but, and, like, it feels like he's kind of a step ahead of what the highest level college quarter back should be in terms of, like, the, the processing aspect of it. We'll see. I mean,

“I, I, I just, I think, push you look at Notre Dame scale and I'm not, now we're talking about”

college football. Notre Dame schedule, the runway he has, the more emphasis it's going to be put on, like, I, I would be shocked if we're not, if he's not a high-spend finalist and, like, could very well be the, when the high-spend this year, you know? Okay, that's good. Um, now Adam to the list. I know why you had, and again, you're way too early mock. You had six quarterbacks going in the top 10. Um, saying. Now, looking back at stuff from last year,

there's something, you can sit there and say, okay, well, look at all these dudes he's throwing into, but the completion percentage, which is not my, it's actually trying to become one of my least favorite stats now with the quarterbacks, but this says something to me. He had the number one QV rating of any quarterbacks statistically. Okay. If they win that in the end, again, he ends up maybe winning the high-spend, by the way. Um, but he was fourth in yards per attempt. So he's got

at 78 percent per cent completion percentage, but it's not just because he's throwing out to the

flats and he rumbles and running backs in the entire time. He's got the fourth best yards per attempt. I'm sure there's probably some depth of target stuff there that I was being his favorite, not in this favor. And when you look at like a CGA, you know, he's at 67 percent completion with the same average yards per attempt. So this was not saying just taking all the easy stuff. And it felt like the way they ran that offense, and because they were destroying teams on average after

“Texas, I think the average score was 38 to nine. They had a lay-up kind of big 10 schedule. After”

they had the text game. I'm not knocking the buck I schedule, but it's just what happens. As we know, you can have like a year or all of a sudden. It's like, who the hell are they playing this year? Right? But it'll have to at least place people. But they played slow. Like I've looked up some of that pay stuff. It felt like, hey, we know we're going to kill everybody. So I think there's like this untapped version of him that's going to be really fun this year. Because there were stretches last

year. I thought he was the best quarterback in college ball. Yeah. Tell me I'm crazy. If you think I'm totally off on it, but go ahead. The highest possible end comp would be Drew Breeze. I don't know that he's going to be that, but I don't know that we've seen the most of saying and when I say the most, I want to see a little bit more aggressive. Like there were games. I'm trying to think, um, was a Penn State. There were a couple of games where he was, he was taking shots

down the field and you could see like, I want to, and listen, he's a red shirt freshman last year.

First year starter, he got the keys to this Lamborghini and it's like, please don't crash it.

So like, maybe it feels like, yeah. You know what I mean? So well, I'm why were they out him forcing any ball all season long when you're winning by 30 points for 11 straight games? Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. I just, I, I want to see a little bit more mobility and, and be forced into some situations where, because I know he can, I know he's a little bit more mobile than than people want to give him credit. I know he's got a little bit

more creativity. And so I want to see that become more natural. And I think in the year two, we're going to see that from it's, here's the problem. You got Dante Moore who would just slice you to death like a surgeon. You got Lenora Seller who's a freak show physically. You got CJ Carr who I just told you all about him. Sam Levitt is the outside of Lenora Seller's might be the most dynamic explosive quarterback in this class. And Sam Levitt and Lane Kiffin are going to

be on a rocket ship this year. And I can't wait two years ago. This is, I mean, Sam was unbelievable that you know, I'm also, it's very Jackson Dartish. I'm like, hey, this is fun. His hell. Are you going to be around November 7th? Even if they're not, I like what they're going to,

“what do I think that they're going to do this year at LSU offensively with with Kiffin and Levitt?”

I don't think anyone has an idea of how great it can be. We'll see if it happens. But Sam Levitt is so fucking explosive. Like, and his arm is so loose in the way he rips it. And it's like all these guys and everyone in the, every walk of life, your, your greatest strengths, my greatest strengths, our fatal flaws. No question about it. But Kiffin's going to get him on schedule, get his eyes where they need to go. Like, my homes was like, but his mechanics were a disaster. And then he got

got a, he's got a chance to be the number one overall pick. So does Arch, so does Dante, so does Lenore, so does CJ. And so when I look at saying the reason I'm saying all of this is that I don't think

“Julian saying ever has a chance to be the number one overall pick. I think if he maxes this thing out,”

he's a top 15 picks, something like that. I think I can see him like being mid the late first round

when it'd been probably not after this year, but after the next year. But you can never take away

first of all, he's absolutely sensational college player. And second of all, like in the right system, he throws it better than to, I think, in the right system, he can have success in the league. It's just, it's got to come together more for him than it does maybe some of these other cats. So to repeat, you think five guys or six guys are in play to be the number one pick. I think Dante more is the odds on favorite right now. I think Arch could so easily get there,

but I've got him below a few other guys. I think Lenore sellers, if it comes together and he like, I think Lenore sellers, like, should be considered like neck and neck. More so, honestly, based off of what they are right now, more so one A1B with Dante more than my mind than Arch Manning, even though that's the narrative. CJ Carkin absolutely pushed to be the number one overall pick if he elevates his game. Sam Levitt, like, I know, I'm not saying he will be,

but I'm telling you, he could wind up being the best quarterback from this class. And so if he's not the number, I think he could easily be a top 10 pick, maybe top five. And then there's a couple other guys that are, they're absolutely Niko Iyamaliava for all the jokes and the Tennessee stuff and the money and how, as involvement and all the stuff we want to throw out that young man, I saw a competitiveness about him last year when things just

were a disaster that really, like, I was like, huh, maybe the national deal on Niko's different than the real deal, even though there's, yeah, there's some noise and all that. This guy's, like, chips down, ass handed to him, punching the mouth over and over again, just bounce back, make throws, really, really good on in-breakers, it's intermediate, like, hang in the pocket and then when he takes off and runs, he's a, he's a nightmare.

And I'll tell you the other guy, Demon Williams, Washington, I was expecting, I'm going to do this report, he's a great athlete, he's like a slot receiver, quarterback, kind of, kind of, got to feel for it's probably going to get some limitations, maybe you could develop a minor, and I'm watching, I'm like, shit, he can make all a bunch of these throws too.

“He's actually a really good quarterback, not just athlete. That's why this class is just,”

it's wild to me, and I haven't even mentioned my oven, USC was going to have an awesome year.

I think worst case, he's a second round pick, John Matier and what he can be changing his motion,

thumb back, you know, thumb back function, all again, it's, it's going to be an awesome year. Okay, having said all that, I'm going to spring this on you, seven picks each, I'm going to do 14 quarterbacks, just go back and forth. And the exercise here is like, how many you have, first rounders, how many actually get drafted, because the fascinating thing I think about any of this stuff is a year out, like you go back a year ago, it's all or it's

Nussmire, it's club Nick. Yeah, those three pretty fucking good and training camp right now, huh? Yes, they are. Yes, they are. But it's, but I'm not shitting on you guys. I look, this is not, I get it. I get it. You get the point, and I've said this, like if I wanted to argue, hitting NBA drafts better than the NFL, but there's no scenario where you would have three projected lottery picks going the second round of an NBA draft. It's because it's the sport.

It's not because this group sucks at it, this other group. I have some issues with the lack of development with quarterbacks. I don't like when somebody gets taken in the fourth round,

never gets to play in a game, sits on a roster for two years, and then just gets replaced by the

next third or fourth rounder. You're like, well, what was the point of ever doing this? Now you had them in camp, you could see them throw you like this guys in the guy, but there is no death. There is no development, but on the drafting part, the mock stuff that you guys are asked to do with maybe 10 to 20 games on these guys. In most cases, it's like, hey, I have the 12 games from last year that I feel really good about maybe a bowl game who knows. It's just a lot

“to ask of the exercise, and that's why you have that variance. I don't think it's because everybody”

that runs in NFL team is stupid. My reign is over there. So I've got your back on that. And by the way, speaking of throwing it, when you were talking about your playing days, yet you ever let the bowl whip crack anymore? I've got an 11-year-old son who plays quarterback. I'm an M2QB every Saturday. Yeah, it's Luke. I've changed my delivery a little bit. I bet you guys. The fuck did no one ever taught us that it was just like pick up a ball in the, you know?

horror. And I thought I had a hose. You guys are like, oh my god, Luke, much, and I'm throwing like

darks. It's just absolutely arms right now. Like, you're in Tvo. It's the same. Like, I can't throw

“or you can't be jacked. I can see that's why I can't wait for water back. Did you read Dave Wilson's”

piece on ESPN on the history of the Jack quarterback? I think it's the best college football content of August. It's fucking awesome. Yeah, check it out. Yeah, I'll send it to you after this. It's really good. All right. Are you ready? Here's the plan. And by the way, shout out to Mench, Jaden Ball Love. I am all for it. Yes. Let me know what size jersey he would. Jaden Ball needs to be talked about. I'm I can't believe your first text of the 20 25 college football season on a Saturday.

I think was was ball related. A lot of my content this year is going to be ball related. All right. You can go first Todd. So the exercise. Todd versus Ryan. Let's see. We'll come up with a scoring

system. Real transparency. We'll probably never revisit this again. But we'll just I think this will be

“fun in case we won't ever remember. So Rudy, clip this off for next April. Perfect. Done.”

You're going to use AI. You can go first. So you want to basically put together the best composite group of your 70. You think's going to go higher than mine. Pretty stand. Wait. So I'm picking seven quarter right now. No, no, no, no, no. We're going to go. Then I'm going to go. Yeah, you don't get the first seven picks that get picked eight through four times. I'll take John Daymore. I'll go chalk. I'll go arch. But based on your intel, I might have been able to get them a little bit later.

I just think the odds are I can't do. I'm going to go CJ then. I'll go love it. Put my money where my mouth is. We did one quarter back. We didn't talk about who's fucking awesome, too. But God, I hope you don't figure out who it is right in this moment.

“Let's give you a clue. I'm going to take you to make a right now then. Gosh, take them.”

Are you kidding me? Did you see the rice throw? You and men. Watch the rice. I've been doing shows for like five hours today. Yeah. I've had this bug. It's been like following me around. Love the content. Yep. That must to make her 52-yard bomb against rice traffic around his legs. And he's still leading his receiver. I'm just going to put next to Mr. Maker's name, Rice Throw. And I'm going to keep this in my desk if you're too yard for what we

revisit. Okay. Rice Throw. Okay. So I've got Dante and sellers and Sam Levitt. You've got CJ car, arch, and Mr. Maker. I'm taking Trinidad Chamble. This is the guy we didn't talk about. Who I've got ranked six just behind arch. Okay. I will then, so if arch, CJ, Mr. Maker off the board. Man, I got it. I got to tell you, like when I watch him, I don't feel like it looks as good.

And I can't watch with such an astute eye as yourself. But I'll take, I'll take menso now. He's, what? Nothing. I just, I could do this all day long with you. Why do you think you run a circle around me right now? No. No, not even that. Why do I, I'm enjoying this more than anything I've done today. Mr. Maker may have been a reach. But are you going to be, you're going to be daring sometimes? And you haven't seen the rice throw.

So how proud of you, me. It's August. I'm watching Mr. Maker throws. I'm proud of you.

I'm proud of you. But I've never questioned your, your, your want to.

So who did you take? I was, I was just laughing at this. That's it. Oh, yeah, that's, I love that. I'm taking E.M. Oliava. Whoa. I'm not even on my board. Yep. Okay. This is for the Mr. Maker thing. They come back around. Give me sand. Okay. I like that. This is where I get an edge on you. Turn out. This is where all the hours show up. This is, yeah, this is, this is like choosing choosing tape over beach.

Um, I'm going to time it. Your mom Williams. Come on Williams. All right. I got my obma. Okay. I got an interesting one for you. I'm taking source B. I don't blame you. You, you sold me hard on him when we got off the phone that day because I was like, we're challenging. But I just don't know what you do with the out of your plane of football.

Your whole draft stock was contingent on you playing and getting more like developing because I'm sorry.

Give me Josh Hoover. So no, no. Well, I was just, I was going through. I know you thought I would take material. I did. Yeah. I look I respect the hell out of them. Yeah, me too.

“I think the first, I think some of us on the record it is, it, for me, it's this respectful”

materials on this board that that messed the maker and, and Hoover were taken before him. I just want to, I want that for the record. So you take a material right now? I thought we had seven each, right? I get more seller, Dante more than our sellers. I get same love it, turn it on, Chambles. Let's make a William Oliver, Demon Williams,

Brendan Soursby, and with my eighth and final pick, I'm taking John material.

Okay, great. Do you have another one? Yeah, I'm going to take Drake, Lindsay. Okay. I just wanted to take him. I knew it. I love it. CJ Bailey still available. CJ Bailey is going to have a monster year, but I think he could have another year after this. Adam Craig from TCU. I'm hearing really good reports out of there. I had him written down. I had him written down. Yeah, Jennings has been hanging around ball for a

long time. SMU. Yeah, this is fun.

“This was great. Thanks for having some time for us today. Check out the Morshe show and read”

the Misché report with our guide top. We'll talk to you again soon. All right, brother. Season. This segment is brought to you by draft Kings. They asked me to put together some overunders on the season. So I've got two college I've got two pro for you. All right, let's start with everyone's favorite terrible schedule. We don't know if they're going to be any good Penn State New Alliance who play Marshall Temple in Buffalo out of conference and they play three ranked

big 10 teams, but they don't play Indiana. They don't play Ohio State. They don't play Oregon. So they get SC Michigan and Washington. So the two road games there that matter all season long at Michigan at Washington. So people are actually looking at it and look. I brought it up with Stanford seed and like, do you want them to make the playoffs? Because this is the conference expansion stuff that drives me absolutely crazy that two teams can be the same conference and have

two completely different experiences. By the way, look at Ohio State schedule. On top of that, they're also playing Texas out of conference like they did last year, which Penn State doesn't like to do stuff like that. So the total right now is nine and a half wins. That's a massive number for team. Again, get rid of a lot of the team and we all expect that McCamble is going to do a terrific job here. But I don't know this seems going to be a good, but everybody's projecting

a ton of wins. I'm going to go minus 142 under nine and a half wins for them. I'm going to stay in the big 10 and look at Indiana. It feels weird to think of Indiana following up maybe one of the most remarkable, certainly unexpected seasons in the history of college football. I thought they were

frauds in 24 and in 25, they were basically flawless. Just putting the hammer down on really good

teams and running through the schedule. And so I could get into the schedule stuff here a little bit. Ohio State's going to be at home. They've got USC at home. So there's only one ranked game on the road. I just think they're that good again. I love Hoover. I liked Hoover a lot better right now than I did when do's are coming into last year, even though McCamble gave us a heads up on

“Mendoza watching the Cal tape. So when I think about the line play and really like your three”

of a guy being in town for a program is kind of when this thing's supposed to be get cranked up. I mean, you want to talk about a head of schedule. This is one of the most a head of schedule turnaround we've ever seen in the history of the sport. I think they win the big 10 again this year. So I'm going Indiana over 10 and a half minus 144 in the NFL. Got two teams for you. The paths and the bears. The paths had an historic easy schedule last year. They made it all the way

to the Super Bowl. I get it. I'm going under 10 and a half wins minus 140. It is, I'd say the fifth or sixth hardest schedule. Go through it. There's not a lot of time off. And if it's one week opponent, it's right into somebody else who maybe has a chance to play in their own comfort championship game. And again, I'm spreading that out outside of Buffalo. I feel like the ASC has, and I know some people have Baltimore there. The odds haven't forth. But that AFC feels like

I could see eight or nine different stories out of this conference. And again, I tear all those teams behind Buffalo. So I'm going to go under 10 and a half. New England might be better. The roster should be more talented. Kind of not an Indiana parallel. But again, way ahead of schedule. When you think about all that roster turnover from the paths. So I'm going to go under 10 and a half. They might be the better team. The hardest schedule in the NFL by all accounts to Chicago bears.

So I'm going to go under minus 125. So three unders for you. The under guy, when everybody else is taking over, check out the latest on draft Kings. The Whisper Man on Netflix, out this week in Adam Scott, the star joins us here. I really enjoyed this little silence to the lambs. Little additional flavor. My alarm went off in my home. And one of the big scenes at the end. Those upstairs watch in. And it sounded like somebody's breaking into my basement. The exact,

“yeah. So I added a lot of extra tension. But that's what I load about this movie. It kind of just”

starts and never really stops. What got you into the project? How did that process start for you?

It, the first thing that happened was I saw James Ashcroft's first film coming home in the dark a few years ago, just randomly on Netflix. And I was blown away by it. I, and I just wanted to talk to someone who knew how it was made and asked my agent. If I could talk to this guy, James Ashcroft. And so I just got a zoom with them. Not to like, see about a job or anything. I just wanted to talk to him. So I thought it was an extraordinary movie. Terrified me. And I

thought it was audacious. And just I hadn't seen anything like it. So I kind of knew James just from that. And coincidentally, then two or three years later, this came up. And Robert DeNiro is one of my heroes. Obviously, I'm an actor. Robert DeNiro is going to be my hero. And so I, you know, I wanted to do it. And then saw James was directing it and was like, oh my God. And

“somehow finagled them into hiring me. Well, they made a great choice. Did you read the book?”

Did you feel like you had to do that? I did. Yeah. As soon as I got the job, I read the book. Yeah. Okay. I'm glad you brought up DeNiro before I did because I'm like, what's the DeNiro question, right? Because you're going, I know this is what your job is. But is there a moment being in a scene with him that you'll remember forever? All of it. I don't think I'll ever forget

any of it. I, I never got used to it. Loved working with him. And really, you know, watching him

work so hard and also watching him sort of do a take and think about it. Be like, can I get one more? I'm just, I don't know. I want to try and real watching him and realizing, oh my God, this guy is still figuring it out. He's still trying to wrap his mind around this mysterious thing that we do. That I feel like I'm still not totally get, and I realize it never ends. You're always searching and always trying to get better, always growing. Here's Robert fucking DeNiro and he's still like,

God, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Let's try and it was a bit of a watershed moment for me. And really inspiring both just to see that and just to know that, you know, you can accomplish everything that somebody like like he's accomplished and still be searching and still be trying to improve and figure it out. When I love about the dynamic between the two of you is that a lot of the back stories held back. You know, we're not just gifted it all in the first

10 minutes. And so even though the movie moves, I like that the reveals pay off more as you're like, oh, this is the other layer to it. And you know, I imagine you're like, all right, I want to match the moment here because it's 10-year-old, but then he's so intense, but he's understated, intense here. Does that, does that make it a little bit more challenging? You're like, hey, I have to, I don't have to match his energy. I kind of just have to match like where he's at right now.

Because he was never like a super emotional person in this like he could be in other roles.

“Yeah, he, um, I think that's, it was when we started doing, uh, forget what scene was first.”

I think it was the one and the diner, but seeing that he was approaching it in this really amazing, like you said, understated way. It really fit like a puzzle piece into what's so infuriating about this guy for this, for his son who's looking for some sort of an answer. And here he is, you know, I think that one of the strengths of the movie is is that we're not sitting there talking about our feelings. And like you said, telling our whole backstory and dialogue

and so much about probably what happens here, where the skism occurred and what broke. And so it immediately was falling into place for me just why this occurred.

“How much does being a father help you play this role?”

I mean, tremendously for me, um, you know, I think that it's inevitable that you're going to go to your own personal experience with playing a role like this, where you lose your lose your son, lose your kid. It's every parents worse nightmare. I mean, it is the only ultimate nightmare. I think for any parent and so, you know, and, you know, kind of prepping for the role, reading and watching people who have experience this awful, awful thing.

The second it happens, your life ends and this is what everything is about until you find your

find your kid. This is, it just completely takes over. You don't sleep or eat or anything. This is it. Your career arc, you know, I wonder, everybody, you know, look, it's going to sound like I'm,

“I'm just complimenting you here because you gave some time in the pot, but I truly believe this,”

like it feels like everybody likes you and it's like, hey, he can do this. Oh, no, he can also do this. Was there a moment where it went from like funny side guy to the pivot of, no, this guy can carry something on his own. Was there a part of your career you felt like, okay, this is actually like, there's more on the table for me now. It's funny because it's a little bit of frog and boiling water

because it took me a long time to sort of find my way. It was, it was never an overnight kind of thing

with me. It was gradual and I'm really thankful for that. I feel like if I got thrown in the deep end at one time or another and I wasn't ready, it would have cost me and I, and I maybe wouldn't, wouldn't still have a career. I'm not sure, but I think that certainly by the time severance came along, it, it helped sort of show that I could maybe be the person out in front carrying something. The severance product, I, I love big swings. You know, but I

remember even watching the pilot, I remember hearing about it, you know, which like buddies of mine, because I live in Los Angeles and they're like, do you hear about the show that's still just doing until like Adam's doing it? And then you watch the pilot and you go, oh my god, like I loved it. And then you're like, how, how do you finish this? I know you started filming season three. Give me your, I guess the first question is your first impression and how blown away,

you probably were going, like, what are we doing here? Like when we started, right? Yeah, I mean, when I first read this script, I knew it was a really special, Dan Erickson had written something really special. And I really, really, like you said, it really big swing. And it was either going

“to work incredibly well or it was going to be a joke. Like that's what big swings are. You take”

that risk. And we all took that risk together. And Dan was really conceiving of this tone and this designed world and Dan had written this legend of this company. And so it was one really, really, really big swing. And we loved it and loved making it and then loved it when Ben had cut it together. But really, you didn't know if it was going to work or if people were going to react,

how people were going to react until it was out in the world. Because you never know, you never know,

no matter how much you love something, it may just be a blip and disappear or everyone points at it and laughs or people connect with it and love it. You just have no idea. So we're really lucky that people did connect with it and people do like it. But you have no control over that. That's one of the big things I learned. How often are you confused about where it's going? I'm not. I have a good sense of where it's going for sure, but I'm also able to

it's a lot of people thinking really, really hard about it to make sure it's airtight and going in the right direction. So I was bringing up the career arc part of it and kind of that pivot. How much, I don't know, like if you're a real planner, I know some people like with agents be like eight and five years,

“ten years and you need to get past this person and you're all these different things,”

how has your career gone in comparison to maybe how you envisioned it when you first got started?

I was never, someone that really planned like that because I never knew what was going to happen.

When I started, I was just doing background work and then I graduated from that to two line guest spots on TV shows up to guest star roles where you are part of a real storyline and then eventually up to recurring roles and then series regular roles, it took me a long time. So to say like in six years, I'd like to surpass ski to all rich and be, I just had no basis for saying any of that. I didn't, I was just kind of going step by step truly and so

now it's a bit different, but I still sort of just kind of go project by project. Although

“one good thing about where I'm at now is I can start planning a little bit. I can”

my wife and I have a company and we produce stuff and so we can set stuff up or get stuff going to, hopefully we can get to this in a couple of years, can do this show at a certain point and so we're kind of laying stuff out for the future a little bit now more than I ever really had before. I was talking about stepbrothers in my friends the other day and we were like, you know,

what the real test of something is, is if you're still laughing as hard as you were when you first saw

it 10 plus years later, you know, and you're so good in it that you're like, almost going wait, is Adam's kind of just a dick in real life, like he's nailing this. Why do you think, when you're a part of something like that, maybe it's the better way to ask. When you're a part of something like that, do you have moments where you like this feels like it's going to hold up timeless as a lot, but, you know, for sure. And that was one where where I thought,

if while we were making it, I was like, if I wasn't a part of this, this is a movie I would watch 25 times. This is one of those comedies that I would watch over and over again. And just assuming

“it was all going to work, you know, I think it does, but while we're, because it was Adam McKay and”

Will and John Riley and they had just come off tell a day of nights and in in Anchorman obviously,

and so I just felt like this is going to be amazing, and I'm so lucky to be here. This is crazy.

I couldn't believe I was there. So it's just a matter of keeping my head above water and not screwing it up because it was clear that these guys were making something really weird and really special. Do you feel like there's a movement away from comedy? Again, this isn't like the 80s and stuff that you and I, because we're almost the same age, you grow up with it. We probably name the five movies. You're like, I've watched trading places. I've watched Kattishak a million times,

you know. And then there's kind of that late 90s early 2000s. And now it feels like, I don't know if these movies just started a priority. Obviously, the business has challenged a bunch of different ways, but do you feel that that it's like, yeah, there's just not that these timeless comedies being me. Yeah, it's a real bummer. I just watched Gale Dautre and the Celebrity Sex Pass the other night, and it is, have you seen it yet? No, it is so fucking funny.

It is so funny. There's like nine different points where I was rewinding and watching bits over again. It is so funny. And I know it had a quick theatrical run. Maybe it's still playing in some places, but I want that, I was like, I want a movie like this every three weeks. Like, there was a time when we were getting all these big comedies. And yeah, I hope we're at a point, let's make it kind of a couple of years ago. It did really well. And so it seemed like maybe that it was going to be

a resurgence of comedies. And I hope there are. I hope people keep making them. But Gale Dautre in the Celebrity Sex Pass, I think, is a really good sign that comedy is alive and well. And so I

The Whisper Man, it is out August 28th on Netflix and Adam and an amazing cast put together

great performance. Yeah, thanks, man. Thanks for the time today. Yeah, thank you. Netflix is expanding. It's NFL coverage in 2026 from week one to the first ever Thanksgiving Eve matchup in two Christmas day games and a playoff game in January. Week one will feature the league's first ever regular season game in Australia on September 10th between divisional rivals the Los Angeles Rams and the San Francisco 49ers. We've got then on Thanksgiving Eve, November 25th

Packers at Rams, then two Christmas day games. As we said, Packers at Bears won Eastern, followed by bills at Broncos at 430 Eastern. And then week 18 with the playoff stakes on the line, catch the final game of the regular season on Netflix. What I love about this lineup is one. Look, I'm picking the Rams win the whole thing again. That's not all that rare. But we're going to have

a little test there to see if that Niners Rams gap exists because as much as I always kind of

“default to trusting the 49ers. I think there's a significant gap in far more questions with that”

Niners roster probably the secondary. All right, then we're right into matchup against the Packers who, again, I always kind of expect the Packers to kind of figure things out. But these are like early tests, depending on how healthy all of these teams are, granted back to week one, the Niners. We know it's probably the healthiest they're going to be all season. But real test in the NFC to see if everyone else these other contenders can match up with the Rams can do specifically that defensive

line for LA. And then finally, you've got Packers bears, rematch the playoff shootout, incredible game. And also just a reminder of like the Packers and how bad that was. That was their fifth straight

loss with the four coming the regular season. And bills at Broncos were ended up being a game

Alan loses, starts to feel a little bit more playoff criticism than he probably ever had before. But if somebody told me right now, Denver Buffalo, that's my AFC title game. I would have a heart count tell him that they were wrong. So we're maybe getting a preview of that on Netflix. Watch week one of the NFL on Netflix starting with the Los Angeles Rams versus the San Francisco 49ers live only on Netflix Thursday, September 10th at 835 PM Eastern 535 PM Pacific.

You want details? 5. I drive a Ferrari 355 KBLA. What's up? I have a ridiculous house in the South fork. I have every toy you can possibly imagine. And best of all kids, I am liquid. So now you know what's possible. Let me tell you what's required. Love you guys, love you guys with our guy, Kyle, and of course. So Rudy, look at that, just say we our guy, Kyle, and Kyle is a nice little smile on his face. Make just made his day a simple

“man in the best way possible. Nailed it. All right. Oh yeah. Do you guys ever envies simplicity?”

Simplicity. Yeah, just in what context? I'm sure and a bunch of you. Yeah, when we exactly wanting less, aspiring to be less. Yeah, definitely, definitely. Yeah, I would say I would say both seem like they're not exactly the same thing, but keep going through. No, like, you know, this isn't like this is going to come off wrong, but like, you know, the people that are like, hey, isn't it just easier to be stupid? Because then you have to think about things that like, I think that other people

think about, you know, like, you're just kind of oblivious to stuff in your life. It's probably happier. You know, that's, that's kind of how I feel about like being on social media, I'm like, man, if I didn't work in this industry, like, fuck, it's like I'm out. I would be so much more pumped about life, I'd be off social media, I wouldn't know about any bullshit. Because I'm going to have my group chat with my buddies, but hey, you guys see this and they're like, no, I'm like,

good for you. I know. Good for you. Wait to your group check. It's older. We'll start to see the way that I know Viking. Like, my guys are a month away from sending me the techno Viking clip. Like, have you seen this? Yeah. Maybe we get it from my group next year. Because if I show them anything day off, like, what happened? Like, is this the app to you?

“So maybe that'll be a topic. You should have some sort of philosopher on somebody. I sort of wish”

the crown jewel wasn't in New York State. I'm like, man, I wish the place that I love so much was in like Missouri and like, you know, everything was cheap. Like, we'd have a house and we'd like, you know, cigarettes or five bucks and there's no state tax. It's like, why is the place that I need to be in my bones? Gotta be in New York State. Because this is something I got has been watching house hundreds too much. It's like, should I move the wake-o? Is wake-o actually sick?

I mean, even my brother is in Buffalo and it's just like, they got it. They got like a pretty sick house for like under 200. And it's just like, man, why is why don't I love Buffalo? Why couldn't it be that easy? But maybe that's sort of what you're saying a little bit. I don't know. States with those state income tax, Alaska, Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire, for your guy,

little guy's gonna play well. Deadwood and those state tax, Tennessee, Texas, Washington, and

good old Wyoming, according to this list. So Missouri might not work out just throughout Missouri. I don't know how to know. I figured you do well in Missouri. Thanks. You and Smolman. Yeah. Here you go. Smolman could show you the ropes. Big city, Shelly. Big city, she'll love that. I don't want to edit it out. No one rides harder for their city, too than her, man. Yeah, every we saw it in person. Crocodile just thought he was taking

it a little super bull party and it's like, nope. Here comes Hurricane Michelle. Yep. She's not gonna like any of these nick names. Nope. She's not. It's all right. I apologize. Not in my dance after the fact. Yeah, I don't know. I was thinking about that the other day. It's kind of

“awesome to not try. Yeah. I think about it a lot for a little one. Not like a bad way. Not the”

negative way. But like, what if you just said, yeah, I don't care. I'm gonna care about any of this stuff anymore. Yeah, you're doing the whole like, what is it? You can't be this point if you don't have expectations, right? You know. Yeah, think about it. Let's go to extra cash. I'd have if I wasn't doing an IRA. I think about that all the time. Like, I totally, I don't know. I don't think that's worth it. Yeah. I think you know, keep doing that, Kyle. You know. Of course,

I know. You're fine with that one. These are the shower thoughts. It's like, man, wonder how much that would have been? $5 cigarettes. God, this IRA sucks. Yeah, I think what, like, I think about that. I've got, you know, one of my buddies is he's, he's the dank, you know, dual income, no kid situation. And you're like, you know, they're just jetset in the cross to globe. And you're like, man, that'd be cool. But then I'm like, man, that actually, that wouldn't be for me.

But there are times when you're like, yeah, that part of it looks really cool.

“Yeah, I think that's the big tease of all of it. It's you create these scenarios in your head.”

You're like, I know that I can't. Like, I didn't have anything to do last night. And it was driving me crazy. I'd finished this project. And I just finished it at like five. And then I went to go read this book. And then I came back and I was just sitting around and I was like,

I don't have, I'd already prep to show. And I went, yeah, you're probably never going to be like that.

All right. So there you go. We'll thoughts. But yeah, maybe get on. We've thought about simplicity a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we get Kyle on South Dakota, Zillow. I bet you. I will say, I have a long cast or money now that I bet. Well, yeah, I do except for remember a couple years ago. I told you guys I was really bummed out that I wasn't invited to weddings. It turns out everyone was just like holding back. And now I'm invited to all these weddings.

And they're really like some of them are have attached bachelor parties and like these weddings. It's like Dominican Republic, Italy, Colombia. I mean, these people have no shame. Why can't we just go to New Jersey? I know that's where you're from. Like, I don't understand. I don't know what you'd say. No, careful what you wish for is is really. Yeah. I don't think so, though. I mean, not you. Not you. I don't care. You're a tier one in bite.

“But I think when you do that though, it's like, maybe we can fin this out a little bit. Yeah.”

Maybe the ivory one is that way. I agree with Guam this time of year. No, actually. Make sure you get your vaccinations. I passed the most like most of the wedding part of my life. You know, my friends get married. I got you out of now. I'm in like the, we have, I think four

of the five weekends in September. We got to get a kids birthday party. First birthday party.

The big one. Yeah. And I'm like, oh boy, okay. All right. Tough scene. Yeah. I was going to say some New Year's Eve vendors there. But I think I missed the window there now. Maybe after news, the breakup make up sex. I don't know. Okay. The reason we're stalling here is because we have so much extra time in front of another taping. So we had some room to explore the space here. All right. So let's run through someone called the cops in my two-year-old, 511, 170, 34 years old, player comp Jason Capono.

Oh, yeah. Got an interesting call tonight from the nice lady who lives across the street. She said that yesterday, while my wife and I were at work, the police showed up at her house, because they received a call about a crying baby for context. Our son, let's call him Dave. Yeah, because he could be listening to a two-year-old Dave. Dave seems like a such a weird name for a two-year-old. Just reading that sentence. Yes. Yeah. You got to be David till at least like, you know, six, I think.

Has anyone ever introduced their one or two-year-old? Like, I was Dave Bob's here. Isn't making any sense. Yeah. I hope someone who has a David starts doing it. Bob's a hard food now. Good for him. Guy. That's my two-year-old guy. Bob's off the formula. It's taking a big step. That should come back, though. You know, like, as now everyone's into like, you know, parade and jade and cade and whatever. And like, adult parade and jade and cade

and so they're going to be weird. You know? That's almost weird than baby Bob.

odd start. I'm biased, of course, but Dave's a very happy and overall great kid.

My wife and I are both loving the journey. We both love, uh, we both work and have a nanny who has stated our place during the day with our sunflower times since he was about six

“months old. Our house is in a neighborhood, a couple miles outside of downtown. I think old homes,”

young families, but also plenty of older folks as well. We're also only a block off the main road with restaurants and grocery store apartment buildings. So there's foot traffic going by our house sometimes. I share all this because we don't know who called the police. Our neighbor talked to them and shared her frustration at their arrival because news flash two year olds cry sometimes. The neighbor talked to the police because she was she saw them knocking on our door

and answer the police either didn't have a name for who called in or chose not to disclose it to our neighbor who knows. Based on when this was said to have happened, our nanny was either out with their son on a morning outing or upstairs getting him ready for a nap. We immediately shared this with each of our next door neighbors. One family of two young kids and one couple without kids and asked if they've ever noticed anything concerning going on while we're at work.

Both said no. Obviously our top priority is Dave safety. It says our son's going to just want to say it again. Hell yeah. But we think it's highly unlikely. This is something bigger here. We're home pretty often to have a great relationship with our nanny. How far should I go to try and uncover who may have called asking more people on my street? The houses who share a backyard fence with us

that I don't know if never talked to or just accept that maybe the person who called was just

someone passing by who doesn't understand that babies cry sometimes. Also, how would you suggest notifying our nanny of what happened in acknowledging this severity of the situation while also not coming across. So accusatory that it could damage a very important relationship. Unfortunately, you're not going to get any paperwork from this because there's no court. Usually you find out who called who, you know, once you're in, but you're not going that far.

So you're not going to find out that way. My guess would be the people who don't have kids. That's your neighbor. That's my guess. I would immediately put the children havers out of the equation. That's minus a thousand. Yeah, I don't have kids. I don't think anyone would be concerned that's like something's happening to this child just because it's screaming loud because like you said news flash it happens. It sounds, because I know the further away you get

from the city, the lower the noise tolerances. Like if you lived in an apartment, the people that you shared a wall with would not call the cops on something like this, but you know, you can have somebody across the street that's annoyed. I just, I would, I would hope that you studied both them when you asked them like the both neighbors and you're like, hey, something weird happened today. I hope you're like really did the Larry David like looking their eyes when you maybe you

could clean something from that, but I don't know. This is something that I don't think you're going to be able to get to the bottom of if nobody wants to fess up. Less is just a concern citizen that was born yesterday. It doesn't understand how the world works. I don't know. I know, it feels like

it feels like one of those things you're just never going to find out. And if you, like my

old house, like we just, my next one neighbor was just the call of cops guy. Like the neighborhood knew him as the call of the cops guy. It was dogs. It was whatever. There was always a problem. You always had some sort of thing going on. And it was like, I always just makes it easy whenever these complaints happen. We pretty much know it's going to be every time. And you can kind of keep your distance.

“So you're probably not finding out for the babysitter thing. I think it's pretty easy to just bring”

up the incident innocently and just say, hey, if this happened there did you hear anything. The cops did that didn't come over right because then you could just kind of play off a little bit dumb and see if she has an information that maybe she was afraid to share with you because you're confronting or with it. But I think just bringing up what happened to her is totally normal and fine and maybe you'll get something out of it. It's weird that you didn't answer the door. But I guess he's, he's got

two perfectly plausible reasons why. It's a lot of, you know, they may not have been there. Right. And if you're upstairs with a screaming baby, I mean, I don't know the layout. We don't need blue prints to work off of here. The cops are probably, I don't think they've ever knocked on doors lately. And then my, in my experience, it's pretty, pretty loud and harrowing. Okay. But if a police officer was outside and it sounded like beyond just a crying baby,

then they're probably being a little bit more forceful of like what they feel like they have to monitor. They may have come by and hurt nothing. Nothing. Okay. Or they may have heard

“a baby crying and been like, you know, whatever. I, you know, I think the nanny thing is probably”

worth addressing. You've known this person. They've been in your house. They've been with your child now for a year and a half based on the timeline that you've given us. And I understand maybe if there could be a language barrier or whatever, but is there a way where you can go, hey, really something strange. Our neighbors told us somebody can't, and so it's not an accusatory fashion at all, but you could just get like the teens you haven't here. Yeah. Was he having a fit? You know,

I just wanted to know in case like anybody would have called again, the chances are it was an insane person heard a regular baby crying and decided to, you know, guardian angel this thing. So I wouldn't

you've already invested in or maybe should invest in because this feels like a strike to situation.

Like if it were something like this to happen again, then we were talking about a completely different set of circumstances that need to be addressed. But I would think instead of like sitting the nanny down in a dark dining room at the end of the day and feeling like they're being interrogated, you just kind of collectively as the group, be like, hey, something strange or whatever, like was he losing it the other day? And then you all just kind of laugh about it. She's like, yeah,

like I was trying to put him down, he wouldn't go down or whatever. And then you kind of have it, but it does seem weird that somebody would maybe process just a normal crying baby in a way that they felt like they had to call the police. Yeah. And it sounds like he would have a suspect number one if I was going to ask like, has anyone ever complained that your grill is too smokey or

like there's six of you in the backyard on your patio and they're like, hey, you know, it's Sunday.

“Like, is that ever happened because that would be my number one suspect? I think he would have”

included that in the email. So, but I feel like that's that would be more likely what it is, but to know. Yeah, to the point about who it would be to like younger dudes. I mean, I again, 20 whatever year old me. I'm not called the cops. If I hear a crime baby, but there are just things that I didn't know then that I know now. Like I remember talking to, I remember talking to a guy at the old place when I took paternity. And he was just like, why don't you just stay home? You

were from home. Like the baby could just be at home. And I'm like, that's the most mid 20s something I've ever heard of my entire life because I would get literally nothing done all day. Like, I mean, it's just that, but I wouldn't, you wouldn't know that. So I'm not the point being

is that like, you know, maybe like some kid heard of baby crying. He just has no idea what's going on.

Thought he was doing his part by calling 911 on a, on maybe like a bike ride buyer, something, and thought he was doing a good thing. And then he's actually just kind of an idiot. I would, I can't wait to take paternity leave. Yeah, not too late. Why did up football season? Sorry, guys. Like check it out. Come in though. Here we go. Here we go. Oh, you think this is a shot at you?

“No. Well, yeah. I don't know. You know, I guess. I think the second one you put off, right?”

You took that on the back end. I did. I. Yeah. You waited till only their guy down a little bit. Just came a month early. So I threw a wrench in the works and we just started Zach los new show. And I was like, I can't really take off right now. So yeah. So I feel like I did take one for the team a little bit. But, you know, one for them. And then yeah, I think we all the summer way. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Different topic. Girl. I'm seeing is a bad kiss or six foot, one sixty twenty eight years old.

I'll come to the chase and keep a quick. I've got a two days of this girl. She's fun to hang out with. Cute, super sweet, but she is all caps a bad kisser. Like to the point where it's not even enjoyable. While it's happening, I'm like, what is going on here? I should not have this much saliva on my face. Oof. Passionately. My question is, is there any feasible way to approach the subject without her making things incredibly awkward and her being rude? I'd like to keep hanging out with her.

But I feel this is an ache. I might not be able to get over it. Let me know your thoughts. It comes down to reps. You know what I mean? I don't know. She may have a shot. You, you, you, but you can't mess with her. Yeah. You can kind of take charge without saying words though. You know what I mean? Like, they try to do this with Tibo throwing motion and we'll go out for them. You know, there's like some pullaways, some gentle lip nibbling or something. You could you could do

I left up a little bit on manipulation. Yeah. You know what I mean? And you just gotta take charge.

“Some people actually want you to. So I think I think you could definitely try that. But I think the”

Proaching of the subject should be off the table. I think she might not admit it, but she would want you to go start before you set some shit like that. I know that cooler head saying like, yeah, we'd like to get this fixed above, you know, as we move along in life, but this is just not going to be received well. So that's the thing too. It's when do you bring it up? Is it right after you make out? Is it like randomly on a Tuesday? Like totally away from me, right? When do you kiss? Like the ass to be in the act?

And the joke thing is right out of your day. You ruin the mood after like a make out session. Because like one pet, it's not a peck though. So it's not just like, how is your day? Here's a kiss. It's like, you know, your, your, your things are getting maybe a little steamy and you're just going to hit the brakes. So on her birthday and be like, actually, here's a couple of things that I just want us to work on, you know, together. And it's most of just things about her kissing. And I think a joke is even worse if you're just like,

well, geez, got to bring a bib next time or something. I mean, that's not going to work. You even know you're trying to like, take it easy. You know, trying to keep it light. I don't think that's going to work. So you can say nothing, but like, maybe do you exaggerate it? I like, well, then you're going to do like, you know, getting assaulted. You know, you can't do nothing. No, I'm saying, you do nothing, but you show that clearly something is wrong. So then she asked you

and then it opens the door to be like, well, you know, you asked me, here's why just put it all in paper towels down at the coffee table. Yeah, all right. Let's watch it. Yeah, me. John Wick 4, excited. What if you just went bad, kiss her back, just came up with all sorts of different games? Yeah, there's like a town or something going on, which I saw was in, you know, is I don't

out there that I am not pretty too, because start smoking cigarettes. You might be grossed out by that and then you just go, I mean, when it's bad, it's really bad. I remember there was like a tornado situation that was dealing with a long time ago, and I was kind of like, she, this is like who told you this was a tornado. So I just got it. Yeah, no, T-thes is the worst one. We're coming to T-thes, that's a problem. Yeah, but that's like it's usually, T-thes bad breath is tough, breathy really can't get over.

“Some people say bad breathers. Yeah, I think I'm, yeah, S-T or perhaps. Well, S-T or yeah,”

these things are fake and easy, but I'm serious, guys. I'm not even kidding. You're that good. I'm awesome. Yeah. So natural skill or something you just like, yeah, I think you're in forever. Honestly, forever. You just have to, you had it in you. Yeah. That's great. You know, there's a lot of natural collagen as well. Just going, so I think it's just, you know, Josh Josh Allen was born from 65 with a cannon arm, Kyle was just born with a great mouth. Look at those lips. There's

a, yeah. Not getting, not getting it all content we may have ever done. Who has told you that? Like, if that, or you like, probably like 50% just verbally out loud. Say, and hey, this is awesome.

The first kiss being like, wow, dance. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome, dude. I, yeah, I'm, I'm not. So

that's, you know, there you go. You know, you're a bad kisser. No, bad kisser. I just don't know

“that I'm like a great kisser. If you're like, you're a kisser. Yeah. Like, I'm not, you know,”

I'm a cocktail pair. Yeah. Yeah. That's fine, though. You know, Ryan's quiet. Yeah, I get to be suck. You get to be get to shitty dynamics. All right. Let's see. I don't really know. I mean, do we, do we say anything else in this guy? I look, everything's a trade off here. Like, all of the other stuff is great. Can you find a way? Can you work on this? Can you, can you get up to a 220 grit sand down the rough edges here? Yeah. We're working on fun to finish your

paper. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But the operators are to me are okay. Like, not everything. Like, hey, maybe it is a deal breaker. Like, maybe she's just not, that's just, it's okay. Like, yeah, that'll be hard of it. Yeah. Yeah. Like, there's that whole trend of like girl saying at what, what, like, X would do it's give her, like the X or whatever. And it's like, okay, well, we can't control half of these things. Like, sometimes that's just part of life. You're

just not a track to do certain part of somebody because it's something they do. I don't know. So, I mean, if you really like her, that's a bummer. But yeah, it does kind of suck. Just see if I could lead the next couple times. That's all.

Well, I don't know. I mean, she, she, she probably, here, the problem is, is whatever she's doing,

“she thinks it's crushing every time. I know. Because most people feel like, what the fuck is that?”

Take it easy. Lassie. So, that's, that's, that's, uh, it's gonna be a tough bridge. What happens when you lock 18 co-workers in an office for one week to compete for a quarter million dollars of cash? This is surviving bar stool season five presented by rumble premium, where each episode releases three hours early. So, I'm gonna add free before anybody else, only when you join rumble premium. New episodes of surviving bar stool will be released every

Sunday and Wednesday, leading up to the Labor Day finale on September 7th. You can watch surviving bar stool at 5 p.m. on rumble premium and everywhere else at 8 p.m. Eastern. All right, lifting tip 619836 basketball compiless athletic more aggressive. Tyler Hansbro, more aggressive with the torso of Glenn Davis and arms like Chet Holmgren. That is a monster potato hit, hybrid. After three kids and four years of long work hours,

constantly changing diapers, feeding babies, no exercise and being skinny fat. I decided to do something about it. Seeing a picture of myself and thinking, "That's weird. My arms don't look that small, coupled with my three-year-old wearing a tank top that said, "Big muscles like dad, gave me the push I needed." I also got lemon myself. Good for him. Yeah. Right, he used my he goes, "You can be stronger weak. Why would you choose weak for motivation?" That might be

my tombstone. Although I've never felt weaker. All right, now to the point, I've made great

progress over the last two months by creating a routine of lifting every day, eating lean, high-protein meals daily. Probably don't need to lift every day, buddy. Just let those muscles grow a little bit. But again, sometimes I won't just go in there. So I totally get it. Hi, protein meals daily. Seeing the gains, I stupidly thought I was further along on my journey than I actually am. Did a military press with weight that I probably wasn't ready for and hurt my shoulder.

You keep pushing yourself." And then you might not have the base, especially when you get those arms up above your head. I couldn't help but think of a story you told a while back about having the same experience and giving advice along the lines of just don't do military press. Do you have any guidance on recovery or continuing to live with this nagging injury? Thanks to the advance.

He also is a very complimentary show. So thank you for that. Yeah, the military thing always

drives me crazy because if you do the straight-up 90-degree bench angle thing, just think you're putting yourself, your shoulders and specifically that area between your shoulder blades and a really compromised position when it starts to go heavy. I don't know that the body is actually you can see some dudes doing some insane military press stuff. But we've always talked about this so plenty of you were here before. Just dip the bench back a slaughter too. So it's not inclined,

but it's more inclined and it's just going to put way less pressure on your shoulders when you're doing all that kind of stuff. And finally when somebody told me that, after I fucked myself up

“so many times, I was like, "Oh, this is great." And here's the thing, like you can go heavy,”

but don't go like crazy ego-heavy even if you think you're strong because again, you're putting

yourself in some of these compromised positions. At 36, I'm not too worried. Unfortunately, like,

this is when the bad stuff happens, like with Ray Leot and Goodfellas, or like, this is the bad times. These are the times when those injuries are going to start popping up, you know what the hell is this? And they may not necessarily go away in 48 hours, like they did all the other times. So a lot of it is stretching. If I had stretched like this, I would have been hurt a lot less. I'm stretching constantly now, stretching, stretching, stretching, and I think if it's,

I don't know if it's the top of the shoulder or if it's behind the shoulder, again, that shoulder blade thing usually is the thing that's compromised with the military press, but I would pull on bands, just pull in different directions all the time. And I think there's also a lot of stuff where you, if you just started lifting, the supporting muscles probably are not fully

developed. So research, shoulder injuries, and figure out what muscles around it need to be worked on

a little bit. Sometimes I'll just do like 17 pound kettlebells and just pull, or sometimes I'll do stand up military dumbbells, 20 pounds, 30 pounds, 40, 50, 60 if she's nasty. But I, you know, look, the shoulder thing, but you can ego out in a chest press and have somebody spot you, and if you don't get that last rep, you're fine. Military is a dangerous dangerous game. That is the end of my rant. Fair. Yeah, I don't have much on that, but it just makes me think of, I watch that, you know,

“remember Coach Wiley, that Brown's guy from Heart Nox, the big, big guy. Is that the belly guy,”

that when he would be the belly guy? And it would, uh, bounce, right? Yeah, yeah, he had my bounce on it. I have some reason like this week, watch that video again of him like bitching about stretching. I was talking about like, he was like about like World War II and how he was like, nobody's stretching a World War II. He's like, we want two world wars. Now everybody's talking about stretching. You don't need to stretch it. It's just right. We want, we want two world wars because

we didn't stretch is such a great, like, reach that I, I just respect it anyway. It has nothing to do with it. We're talking about what you're talking about stretching. Maybe think of that. I love, I love that you brought it back up. And yeah, I'm not going to point out that, you know, do we win World War II quicker if we stretch it? We have some bands that we can whip out. Yeah, little bandwork. Like, man, this Africa thing's taken forever. You know, I Africa took forever

as like just the logistics. It was a challenge where guys were, I remember reading this one part where they were packing the ramps to unload the jeeps off these carriers and they put the ramps behind the jeeps. So then they didn't have the ramps for the jeeps. So there's a lot of like trial and error, just packing alone. Now, that's where you win the war. Logistics of it all, fuel, food, transportation. Yeah. So don't worry about. Yeah, really, there's another one. I've got, I want

to find this email. Well, you guys talk amongst yourselves for a minute here. I'm putting you on the

“spot. But I need to find this email that I think is great. And I, for some reason, it's not,”

it's not a flagged here. Oh, I'll tell you the way to real quick that happened to me. My sister got married this past weekend. It was sick. Right. I don't know. In the men coming on the wedding, slid under the wire. She wasn't sure if she wanted to, you know, it was non-traditional to gay wedding begin with. But slid under the wire. We all got matching powder blue blazers that we stood up there with. That was sick. But the whole thing heading up to it was, she said they were

going to have room for yard games because on a farm, I was like, what about Bucket Golf? And she's like, yeah, we'll see if we have room. I bring Bucket Golf just because take over the, they had a frisbee golf section on this farm. But I totally set up Bucket Golf in front of the frisbee golf, nice little three-hole course. Maybe two people picked up a frisbee. Everybody was doing a Bucket Golf the whole weekend. I mean, I was, I was going to say, I feel one of two ways. Because,

you know, you typically don't bring growing activities to a wedding. Yeah, this was not a turnkey wedding though. I mean, we were saying, but yeah, you said it was true. So that's, yeah, yeah. Um, and so like, yeah, good. It reluctantly at the end, she was like, yeah, Bucket Golf is actually

the reps there for the Bucket Golf. I feel, I still get the play. I've got to, I've got to, I've got to get out there and do it. I don't know. I don't know. I feel like they should be calling us at this point. But I guess this is the last one you guys get. Do you ever play Polish horse shoes back

in the day? That was always on my favorite speaking of frisbee's. Are those smaller horse shoes?

No, you, you stick a ski pole in the ground and you put a beer on top of it and you throw frisbee's at it and then if it hits the pole and you, you're the whole game is a knock beer off the pole, right? And then it's played it by the way. It is great. Super fun. It's good. If you hit, if you hit the, the

“pole, you can then grab it. But if it's the ground, you have to chug it. The rest of it, essentially.”

Oh, okay. It's a very cool game. Very fun game. Anyway, I think I'll be in the art games that way that a while, but it's, it's a fun one. I love that game when I see you guys doing it. Love it. It's great. It's been a minute. It's going back. All right. I can't find the one I was looking forward. We're going to do this one. Hey, guys, 5 11 11 91. Nothing crazy in the gym. I've basically been maintaining for the last

five years. I show four days a week. Do the same list. I've always done it somehow managed to maintain a

physique that somewhere between he lifts and he likes beer. You know what? Kind of the theme of the start of this whole thing. Sometimes something's better. So you're in there. You're doing it. You're maintaining. I know the plateauing things. Thanks, though. It sucks. My NBA comp would probably be a late career Andre Iguidala decent size for a wing. No standout skill, but a solid jack of all trades teammate. I feel like you're being a little like, I know what you're doing, but Iguidala could also

“like run an offense and set up stuff, too. Like he was an incredible wing because he didn't need it,”

but if he was asked to use, well, you probably didn't want to eat Iguidala. If he's two younger numbers, six years air, Iguidala. Yeah, right, point card Iguidala. 28 years old married for two years living in a city. I really enjoy away from my hometown where most of my high school friends still live. We have a great group of guys, some are married, some aren't, some have successful careers, some don't, everyone's on a different path. The thing I've been wrestling with lately is this,

what's responsibility? If any do you have as a friend to push someone who you think is capable of a lot more, there are three friends in particular that have me thinking about this. The first two guys are in there mid 30s, early mid 30s, both have college degrees, generally smart, capable guys. They live together back home, make a living, reselling things. They find it thrift stores in estate sales. They basically live paycheck to paycheck, are rarely able to participate in

any group vacations or cool outings. So it's like somebody needs to start a YouTube channel. I know. You're two friends that are in team. Yeah, live together. Okay. If that's truly what makes them happy, they're great. But from the outside, it feels less like they consciously chose that life and more like they slowly drifted into it. Well said, they don't have health care, retirement benefits, neither one dates. They don't really meet new people. They don't seem to

have much more of a long-term plan. Okay. As their friend is at my place to ask questions like,

“what's the plan five years from now? Or have you ever thought about getting a traditional job?”

Could those conversations actually help someone who just needs a little push or

to conversations like that almost always come across as judgmental and accomplish nothing?

Then there's another friend who's in a little different situation. He's 29, really smart, works hard, but he's never had a traditional nine to five. He's tried starting multiple businesses one field the next field. And now he's on to another idea. Whenever the topic of getting a regular job comes up, he'll say things like, I could never work a nine to five or I can't have a boss. I absolutely love guys that have nothing going on. I can't, I can never work anyway.

Yeah. You see, well, you're fucking doing a great job, man. I'm telling this new fruit from the Amazon rainforest that I just need to get five more guys. And then, you know, it will be fine. The man was a thumb on your back. No thanks. All right, his view of corporate life feels like he came entirely from watching office space. He jokes that a normal job is just grinding away everyday to increase shareholder value so you can get a pizza party once a year.

Wow, it's been the company. That's pretty good in the world view, but yeah, well, you've filmed one of these ramps and sent it to us. Anyway, the funny part is he's never actually worked in that environment. Meanwhile, he's barely making enough money to support himself, still visit home. He keeps chasing the next business idea. Part of me wants to sit him down and explain that a lot of us actually enjoy our jobs. Having a steady paycheck, health care retirement savings, coworkers you like,

and enough financial stability to move out, date travel, and build a life isn't a soul crushing existence. It's actually pretty nice. But then I wonder if I'd be the idiot in that conversation. Plenty of successful entrepreneurs failed multiple times before something finally worked. One of his next ideas, the one that changes everything. Who am I to tell someone to stop betting on themselves and fall in line with corporate America? If there's even a small chance, they're right.

Have you ever had friends like this? A ton? It's my answer. People who seem stuck. I was one of these guys for a good chunk of my 20s. People who seem stuck or people who kept chasing something

out on their own? Is there ever a point where being a good friend means having an

uncomfortable conversation and challenging someone or is that almost never productive? And the

better move is to let people live the life they choose. I'm genuinely torn. Part of me thinks I should buy my own business. Another part of me feels like if I watch my closest friends waste 10 years of their life without ever saying anything, I'd regret staying quiet. Well, for the third guy, you are the idiot in his eyes. It sounds like you have probably already brought it up because how would you know all these insights that he has about the working

stiffs? How would you know that he thinks you're a sheep? If you guys haven't talked about this already? Because he brings it up. Yeah, sure. Yeah, this is it. You would certainly ask for the sheep talking to the wolf in this situation, you know, in his eyes for that. I don't know. I think guys can have thick skin when it comes to a lot of things, but like if you're

basically, you know, if you're talking about like their vocabulary or their, I don't know,

where they live or or what they're wearing or something like that, I think that would all fly. But if you're just like existentially, I don't know what to fuck your up to, man, dudes are, I think a little less receptive to that kind of criticism or or questioning. So that's the tough one. I personally, I've just, I'm not touching this. You know, if everyone at the friend group dynamic is fine, everyone's happy and they're not like, if you, if you know that

they're like bummed out about not being able to do these things with you guys or go in these trips

“or for certain things, then like, all right, yeah, maybe it's like, hey, like, you have to be thought”

about this. But if everything is like status quo is fine, you guys are a good friend group. And like, I just don't know that you messed with that dynamic. Maybe this is like just the idiot old school man thing if like suppress all your feelings. And because like, you know, you know, like the videos that go around now, where it's like, you know, dudes hang out, they go golfing for five hours and they come home and they ask for it. But life's like, hey, like, did so. And so it started new job. You're like,

no idea. No idea. Like, that's kind of like, that's kind of my friend group. Like, we have a great time and we just kind of, I don't know, there have been times when you really need to get in. I'm not going to go into specifics. But like, you know, we'll ask a question here or there because you know, they kind of need something. But if these guys all seem relatively happy and you are a good friend group and you operate well and they, you know, sometimes you kind of let guys live

their own life. And then like, you become the guy who was like, oh, he's got it all figured out, great. Now he's going to fix my thing. And that's just not a place where I would personally want to be maybe you do, but I, I don't know, I let people live, you know, let people live the life, let people make their mistakes and you know, help them when they ask for help. And I'm not saying this is like, for success stories because like a lot of, you see like a successful person a lot of times their

actors. So I don't think it, it totally translates and maybe you don't get actors. Well, no, but I'm saying, like, when these interviews, when they talk about getting into the business are finally, you know, they'll have to say how they were, you know, if I can pick it out of garbage cans and ego rock, when they were sharing a room with four other guys or something like, and that might be romanticizing

“it a little bit now that they're the shit, but I think like a lot of times like people that end up”

doing well, they have like kind of a story that's kind of not dissimilar to what some of these guys are going through. And my point is like, if that's a success story, there's got to be somebody who came and it up in the middle, you know what I mean? There's probably might just be late bloomers as my point. Like, I think if it's, if the, if it's good enough for Bradley Cooper, you know, maybe maybe it's good enough for you one day. I don't know. I think I think being 29 is not like,

if you're doing well at 29 and you're looking at your buddy at 29, like, I think you got to give them a little more rope just because you definitely can't fix them and he's old enough to free will and do what he wants. So I think you just got to have like be positive that something will work out. Clooney was like plus and tables at like 45, wasn't he? I don't know. 45? I don't know. He was old, right? I think. Yeah. Yeah. I was already full. Was that John Hamm? Somebody got somebody was

Hamm was old. Yeah, Hamm for the industry. It was, it was like late for him. But you're right. Like Clooney was late to it. Because I've heard so many Clooney stories and by the way, they're all

incredible. Yeah. Like whatever drop a dime for his best buddies of like $1 million. Is that real?

I don't know if that one's real or not. I was hit some writers party years and years ago. It was like when I first get out here. I was like, oh, whatever. So. And there's like, you don't want to be Clooney. Maybe you're just an HVAC guy later on in life. And it's like, yeah, actually, I got more work that I know what to do with. I don't know. I'd rather you be Clooney. That's the best. That's hang of all time. I would leave the 30 somethings alone. This just may be like if they're on the same page.

And like the biggest takeaway I have from this email is that you're assessing three of your friends that you don't think are doing as well as they should be doing, right? I don't know that you're necessarily being judgmental. Some people could frame it that way. Maybe you are a judgmental guy. But you're not coming to it with one person. You're coming to us with three. So that I

“would speak to you feeling like you have to pull everybody up, which may be great intentions.”

It also could mean that you could just not worry about this shit. Again, I don't know the specific dynamics here. But you're not just talking about one person. This feels much like a older brother

right. There's just a recoil you have as a man where you're like, oh, you're going to fucking

assess me. Why don't we do your scouting report, you know? And it's like, just doesn't go well. And if anybody pulled me aside in my 20s, I wasn't going to listen to him anyway. I remember having this epiphany at one point when I was still was like, I was just kind of getting started but it was still pretty tough. And then there was a guy that I knew and he was like, you know,

“honestly, I don't really feel like I ever figured it out. Like until I was 35. And I was like,”

awesome. I've like six more years. Yeah. Yeah. It was like the best day ever. I'm like, I'm

going to start taking it easy. I can be like this for six more years. This is great news. So I do think there's something. And I don't like the how, you know, selfish can get about, well, I did this. So then everybody else. And that's not really, I think it's maybe more myopic than to the selfish. But it, because I did this, then everybody else is kind of supposed to do this. And that's where you start making some mistakes on assessing what other people are doing. Look, maybe the nine to five

world is absolute hell to your friend, which again, it can still be held of them without necessarily experiencing it. And there's something to be said, kind of like on the theme of the beginning,

this whole thing of like, what if these guys are happy? Like you never mentioned once that they were

“unhappy? What if they're happy? I mean, what if you think they're delusional and they're at peace?”

Maybe the 30s, somethings. But the 29 year old, guys, probably going to have to keep failing and falling a bunch of different times. But those failures or whatever you deem is like not him living to his potential, those are going to shape whatever he ends up becoming. And he's going to know what he doesn't want and know what doesn't work. And hopefully, you know, not that we all learn from every single mistake that we make. But I would lay out is, if I gave you one sentence of advice,

which is not what we do here, I would, I would lay out and not really worry about it that much, because men don't listen to each other. And the friend group thing can get really weird. Like, I can think of a few different people if I had ever pulled aside, they'd just be like, oh, oh, yeah. Okay, mystery SPN's going to tell us how it works. And I was just going like, I'm not doing this. And then the what about is them starts, you know, yeah. Oh, yeah, I love that one. Yeah. So

“I can do another one here. But this feels like a full circle. Why don't we not?”

Why don't we not do another? Because we're already at 40 minutes. Because it was a week, right? We could at least put them on the table. Yeah. Yeah. I found the email. So we'll do that one video. I show it to start on it. I did. I just started by topic. We were ready to buy a number 51. Thank you. You know what? I'll listen. I'm receptive to your thing. Oh, man. Okay, thanks a ton. Thanks to Kevin. Thanks to three thanks to Kyle. Please subscribe to the show full

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