#297 Nick Shirley - Inside California’s $222 Billion Medi-Cal Crisis

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from Minnesota? So after Minnesota, I was like, hey, the threats are pretty high right now after exposing like billions of dollars. Let me focus on something different. But let me still focus on fraud. So I focused on election fraud in California. I was like, that would probably maybe take a little bit of the pressure off me for a little bit as far as like the death threats and just like going having a group like the small ones coming after me. So they're okay. Let's go after election

fraud and then a few weeks later I then did go after the hospice fraud and that was bad. Why did you pick California election fraud? I'm just curious. Because they're the biggest state in the country and they're one of the states that don't require voter ID. So I really just want to show people how easy it is to vote in an election here inside the United States in a place that does not require voter ID. If you heard of, we're going to get into that. I'm just curious. I've been hearing a lot of

the voter frauds coming out of Venezuela, like from a national standpoint. Have you heard this shit? I really haven't. You haven't though. I heard like the like the maybe like the Dominion machines are? Yes. I haven't looked into it. Smartmatic. Is that who owns them? I don't know. This is all allegedly, allegedly, but I've been hearing a lot of sources talking about that it all kind of is orchestrated from Venezuela, but I don't know. I'm just curious if it would

of another word right now. It's kind of conspiracyish. I haven't really touched on it yet,

“because I can't, you know, there's a lot of wild shit out there, but I'm hearing it more and more”

and more. If you can hook me up with a group of special up guys, go out of Venezuela. I'll go looking to it. I know a couple special up guys. So we'll go to Venezuela with you. So yeah, actually, I will fucking hook you up. I'll call them up tonight and see if they will be interested in going down with you. I'm down. I'll blow up on you. I'm ready. Do you really? Yeah, I speak fluent Spanish. No shit. Where'd you learn that? In Chile. Santiago. Mission trip. Yep. Nice. Nice. I'm going to

do a threat. Nice. Let me give you an intro here. Make Shirley, a bold 23 year old independent journalist

who's taken the internet by storm with fearless on the ground investigations. Known for exposing

stories and the legacy media won't touch from immigration debates to government waste. Uncovered alleged massive fraud in Minnesota's taxpayer-funded programs testified before Congress about the fraud taking place in Minnesota and all across the United States currently uncovering millions and dollars of fraud in California for fake hospice care facilities and daycares. Look, man. And as you know, before we get going, we got a couple of things to knock out. One. Yes. These are so

good. They're relatively gummy bears. Like the whole pack last time within a few days. Nice. And we got a Patreon account turned it into quite the community and so they get the opportunity to ask

every single guest a question this is from Robert Simmons. If you had any luck with any federal

investigators taking what you found in expanding investigations and do you think it's some point there will be any real indictments or convictions of state officials who have allowed it or are

“covering it up. Yeah. I think I've had a lot of success to actually just open up a new task force”

for our task force where our bunch of departments of the government are now going to be talking together if they see an issue at treasury and they see an issue at another department where they weren't communicating. Now they're going to communicate and I think we will start to see prosecutions ramp up. Vance just he's the lead on that, isn't he? This is the same thing. Yes. So what is it? What is the difference between this and Dode? This essentially isn't like a new, I don't think

it's a new department. It's a task force. And now like all these departments inside the government, like you have treasury, you have the perk people who are over the housing, you have all these departments are now going to be talking together. You have the HHS that's going to be talking with treasury if there's a huge amount of money going somewhere and they think it's suspicious. They're

“going to talk because before they weren't talking. Right on. And that's why the fraud got so big.”

You think you are the main component of the reason that happened? Yeah. I think so. J.D. even told me that. Did he really? Yeah. I met with him and he's like, you're one of the main reasons why this is happening. Wow. How does that feel? It's pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think it's just cool to know that like your efforts can be seen by government officials and like change can be brought out. That's right. It's just cool for me to see

at least. Pretty fucking cool what you're doing man. Yeah, that's fun. It's fun and scary at the same time. How would I solve the death threats died down? A little bit. I mean, after Minnesota that was very I was really crazy and especially after the shootings as well. That took place in Minnesota. That did not help. Yeah. That was pretty wild. Just because everyone wanted to blame on somebody. It's on the earth blaming it on me. I'm like, I had nothing to do with that.

Well, are you talking about the like the eye shootings? Yeah. They were blaming that on you. A lot like the leftists were trying to blame it on me. I'm like, no, I'm not the one who decided to get my car and hit an Ice agent or put myself in position to get shot by an Ice agent. Holy shit. Yeah. I didn't know they were blaming on on you. I don't think that was a good shoot. Well, not everyone but like us like group of people are like,

you have blowing your hands and like, no, I don't. Yeah. It was not me. Damn, dude. Damn. Because I mean, after that, after I exposed all that fraud, the politician tried to divert the attention from the fraud and with the ice coming in, they then like, they even shut down the school so people could go out and protest. So they then incentivized these people to go out and protest and we're rallying them up. Like Ilhan Omar was in the back of a

truck bed yelling at the protesters, rallying them up. No shit. Yeah. I didn't know that. Wow.

That was one of the main daycares I went to. They had to see over $3 million. One of the ladies was

fleeing the United States to go to the UK on a one-way trip. She got caught at the airport and now she's been found guilty. And there's people who have been arrested for autism,

“who have pleaded guilty to the autism fraud that took place. And right now, I think there's”

building up the cases. I mean, it really was only about three months ago. Yeah. That's all this happened. It's actually a pretty impressive thing. But that's already starting to happen. I honestly thought everybody would just go unscathed. Like, I, we uncovered it. Cool. Let's just keep doing it. Yeah. All the fraudsters are in high alert right now too. Good. You're doing good work. So let's move into California. California fraud is so massive and there's so many different things to look at

when you look at the fraud, that's taking place in California. You have Metacalfrod, which is

their Medicaid. And for instance, in 2022, they had $108 billion go towards Metacalf.

The population is Metacalf. It's their Medicaid. Okay. So each state kind of calls their Medicaid systems or programs have been different. California is a called Metacalf. It's the biggest Medicaid in the United States because they have the most metacalf people. But so in 2022, they had $108 billion go towards Metacalf. Their enrollments at the time was $3.9 million. Okay. And so then here now we're in 2026 that proposed budget for Metacalf is now $222 million in their enrollments

“40 million. So they only hit. Yeah. Hold on. Can you say those numbers again?”

So $108 million billion for $39.8 million people? $39.9. So they've over doubled it for $100,000 people.

Well, what's new? What are they getting? That's where I'm wondering. And actually the population of California hasn't gone up exponentially either. Yeah, it's plateaued. I thought it was actually a decline, but it's not a decline. It is a plateau since 2020. Yes. I pulled it, I pulled it up. And so when I was doing that making that video, I looked at this. I said, what is going on here? How is it going from 39.9 enrollments to now 40 million enrollments? Yet there's over

$100 billion. And then if you look at the surplus California at 1.0 is operating $100 billion surplus before 2020. Now they're operating, and I believe it around $20 to $40 billion deficit. So that's a easy place to point to why they're in such deficit and where all the fraud is. So what is going on? How do you, can you say the dates again? So it was 13, it was a $109 billion and when? 2022. 2022. And today in 2022, it's doubled. Yes, the overall. The proposed

budgets at $222 billion. Holy shit, dude. And the thing with the fraud is they want to make it so big and so complex that it's hard to actually crack down on. And so when you have that much money going out to these locations, going out to these hospices, going out to these home health

“cares, it makes it very hard to crack down on. Because how do you like the web so deep at that point?”

Like there's so many hands that are involved. How are they doing the fraud? So hospice and home health care, like the most valuable thing to somebody over the age of 65 is a Medicare beneficiary number. And that's even more valuable to a fraudster than a credit card. So they get the medical beneficiary numbers of these people and then they start enrolling them into hospice. And when someone's enrolled the hospice, a lot of people in California don't even know

they're enrolled in the hospice until they go to the doctor and they need a surgery or the Nina appointment and they say, well, we can't help you. You're enrolled in the hospice. So then what happens? So these people. So basically there are identity stolen. Yes. Somebody puts them in the hospice program. They need a surgery. They can't get a surgery because they'll be denied. How many people have died because of this? I don't have the exact numbers on that.

But I imagine a lot of people get to the doctors and they're like, wait, I had no idea it was on hospice. CBS even reported on it. I people would have, what if it's a medical emergency? They're on hospice. They're having a fucking heart attack. You're on hospice. Or an aneurysm. Oh, we should. So it's very dangerous, actually. I mean, my grandma, when she was dying,

not feeling good, or they're going to like treat you, but they're not going to stop you from dying. Like if you're, they're not going to do some last minute procedure to make sure you stay alive. So it's hospice. What is it? A government aid? What is a cover? So it's underneath medical, but it's, uh, it's literally just like hospice is just like home,

“help health care to ease your dying. That's what I thought.”

Yeah, so there's hospice, and then there's home health care, where they then actually do stuff to help the person stay alive. It sounds like a really easy thing to fix, just verify who

you're sending the money to. Hey, it's so-and-so here? No. Okay. Well, the problem is,

is they then get these like little offices, and they just do the billing, and they don't have the patient inside of inside of a hospice because they're going out to the homes. Because most of the people are on their deathbeds at their home. Okay. And so it's very hard. Okay. So if you do have that medical beneficiary number, it's super easy to make it look like you're doing stuff. Because it's just a piece of paper that you're signing off and sending to the state,

and then they send you the money from medical. Okay. Or from Medicare? I thought hospice was actual

“centers. No. That's why they're able to get away with it. Sure. And that's how they get the medical”

beneficiary numbers. Then they can just bail people without them even knowing. How did you figure

this? How did you figure out this out? Well, after my minutes of the video, it like surge the country to go look for fraud. And I was kind of nervous to tackle California because I was worried like, okay, I post a video, Gavin News, and probably gonna try to sue me. Because Dr. Oz went and did it. He's the head of CMS. So he went and showed that here in California there's 1,000% increase in these hospices. Our many in Russian mafia is running these hospices. And so I knew

there was something there because literally the head of the CMS is going there and talking about that. And so then I started looking into all the data. After my video, the HHS actually released the databases of the HHS to then you could go and scan through it. So I started going through that data and that locate these hospices. I'm said, okay, I'm gonna go see what's happening at these and it turns out that they are just come. There's just a bunch of plazas in this place called

bad-nice in California in LA that just have literally 10 to 89 hospices in one building. Dude, this is just like the Minnesota shit. Yeah, it might even be worse. Because one and third of the hospices in America are in LA County. One third of the hospices in America are in LA County. I believe so. Yeah, like one and then like one and every 10 dollars for home health care goes to LA County.

It gets really bad. Whoa, dude. Holy shit. 89 and one building. 89 and one building. What does that look like? They're literally these plazas or just these buildings that you may be driving by

don't think anything up because you've never seen anything ever happened to them. Well, there's

a little hospice in a room that's like eight by eight and you knock on the door and nobody's there. You can even open the door and there's nothing in it and then if someone is in it, it's literally like one desk and it's one of these usually our minions, especially in California. And then you drive out and you walk outside the parking lot and you got like M8 competitions, you got G-Wagans, you got Cybertrucks, you even have $200,000 maybacks.

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“that person they called my mom and said the Russian mafia wants me to tell you to make sure”

Nick doesn't come poking around our fraud. Like that's not a joke. We were driving in LA. I was working on a separate video. Somebody called my mom and she apparently had new some people. And she had my mom's phone number. She called my mom and said the Russian mafia wants to make sure to let you know to have not Nick not come stupid around our businesses. How's that make you feel? It's like well probably not going to go check out the Russians,

but it is scary because like the Somalians, they were threatening me publicly. Like they had their people talking in these chats. They were out doing these press conference. It was like they're trying to sell a book. They're like Gavin Newsom. They're trying to sell his own book. These people are doing press conferences and whatnot. The Armenians and the Russians, they're a lot smarter than that. They're not going to be doing these press conferences about trying to protect their fraud.

And so they're going to work in a lot quite or way. So that was very scary. My mom did get that phone call. How's your mom take it? I'm like now we're not like used to it, but it's like Kaynake, we need to be cautious. Isn't fun. Shit man. That was a little that was a little crazy. Not going to let that serious. Yeah that was serious. I mean that's serious. Because I mean these people like you talk about like the mafia or gangs. Like it's real. Like they're certain parts in America where

mafia or gangs do have control. But you don't see it as blatantly because they're not rolling around like armed gangs in the favela. It's more so like these are the people who take command and everyone knows it and it's just kind of how it's been and they can kind of blend in. Man, well it's out now. Yeah it's out now, so hopefully nothing happens.

Shush, have you talked about this anywhere else? No, you're the first one actually. Oh great.

It's great. No shit. Yeah that was that was intense honestly. I was I really like that now

or that people are on to their scams and they're fraud and they're literally making phone calls

to make sure I don't come snoop around the fraud that they've been able to get away with for so long. Damn. But you've been talking about this. We're reopenly. I mean it popped up on my radar. Yeah because I mean I'm doing a public service to the country to try and expose fraud wherever it may be and I don't care if you're a Russian or a minion, Somalian, American like if you're committing fraud you're stealing from hard working legal taxpayers. So either stop committing

“fraud or you're going to be exposed. So what is that? How long ago did you expose this?”

The Minnesota or the California stuff. I filmed that back in February. February?

Yeah. What is the response then? For everybody else so then in the moms? Gavin Newsom. He posted a photo of me snooping around an AI-generated image of me snooping around daycares trying to pick me as like a pervert putting like 10 cameras on me. I saw that. Where are the children? The overall response though has been a lot more positive compared to Minnesota because people are realizing oh this is like a systemic problem here in the United States. This isn't a

rider left issue. Like each one of these tax dollars is our tax dollars. So the response has been I'd say even better because people are now seeing like okay this is like a big issue.

“Yeah I mean I remember last time I think it was last time you were here there was an estimated”

600 billion dollars in fraud in the US alone. Yeah three to seven percent of each tax dollar goes towards fraud here in the United States. How much? Three to seven percent. So that means that each American is working 25 days out of the year to pay a fraudster. Wow. These have been any response from the California government on this other than you running around with a bunch of cameras. They're trying to act like Gavin Newsom did this in that to stop

hospices. I think like back in 2021 but the problem is you can go and sign something but if you don't

actually stop the bleeding that means nothing. Because there is an over 1,000 percent increase. There's 1,500 hospices in LA County alone and yeah good job you maybe crack down on 50, 70 of them but you have a lot more to crack down on you didn't stop the bleeding. It's similar to Minnesota where they had a 10,000 percent increase in funding for autism. Yet there was an 10,000 percent of children's autism. So like these governors like that like they're doing stuff but the action

never stopped the bleeding and that's where all the fraud is taking place. Like stop the bleeding and then maybe you can say I did something but until then like you're just as complicit as these fraudsters because you know what's happening but you don't stop the bleeding. How many buildings did you go to that we're doing this? 80 nine and one building I mean 89. Yeah so CBS report on the 89 one. I just went to about an area probably about two square miles and within there there's the one

motel like building that had like 15 of them in there. There's another one that had about eight inside of it. There's another one that had it started off as an adult daycare that then transformed themselves into a hospice and a home health care so they just got it on all the goods and all the together probably around 10 different buildings. What are these people saying to you when you bang on the door when you approach them? Do they speak English? Some of them do a lot of them aren't there and I say

one guy was there and he said I'm like he's like I've been in this business since 1990 something I'm like okay then what's the justification for a thousand percent increase since you've been it for so long and he can't even re-ass the question. In fact he blames Dr. Oz. He blames Dr. Oz. Yes he blames Dr. Oz saying that he was making all his obligations and he even blamed Dr. Oz for being fat. Like I was pretty funny in the video the guys like I took my

“bought Dr. Oz pills and I'm still fat. I'm like oh so you're fat because of Dr. Oz?”

It's like yes because of Dr. Oz. Wow. Wow. And I'm pulling the information straight from these data sets and so they can't back it up. I'm like okay he's like well my business is right here

with CMS like how can you not register with CMS then he blames Dr. Oz and like well Dr. Oz is actually been in that position for maybe a year yet they've been getting away with this for years what do you think's going to happen with this? Well I'm super interested to see what happens with this fraud task force and I do think if there's not prosecutions or people are arrested then like I think Americans are going to lose hope like lose any faith that they have left in the government

because it is literally out there for in the open this fraud. I mean you just said every 25 to American spend 25 days a year paying for fraud. 25 a month of your hard work that you are sending to the government is paying for fraud. Yeah it's crazy. And so in some of these programs too they're like oh well it's not that much money. Well your program

your department allows 7 billion dollars and 1.7% of that goes towards fraud. That's $100 million.

“That's how much daycare fraud there is in California that's very low estimate by the way.”

I'm like cable that's a lot of money a hundred million dollars. Where are we going next? We going daycare fraud, voter fraud, what are we doing? Voter fraud is very big and I think that's something that's just like so obvious too. It's like okay how come in these Democrat states they don't want anyone to show their ID. I can California they do not want you to show your ID.

And they don't want you to show your ID. They don't want you to show your ID. You don't need to. All you have to do is sign a paper. Like a lot of you have told me well I've tried to show my ID at the place and they look at it like it's like some sort of cancer. Like they're like don't look at it. Like we don't need to see it. Are you serious? Yes. So I wanted to see how easy it would be for let's just say the legal migrant in the vote in

California. So this man he had all the voter issues. He had all the, he had all the, what are they called? What are they called sorry? Yet all the voter rules. So in California I want to see how bad the fraud was. So I'm reached out to this man who's been doing his own investigation on this for years. So I got all the voter rules. And they received the voter rules. It's public. You can get to the voter

“rules but you have to get access from it. I believe in the Secretary of State of California.”

So he had received all the voter rules and he's been going through it for years. And there's so many stuff, so many red flags inside these voter rules. For instance you have people who are said to be 126 or 126 years old voting, then you go to that house in the person's 80 years old. But they voted in 55 elections. And they don't require ID. You also have people who are registered to UPS boxes. And you can be registered to UPS box. But you cannot have

that as your domicile address, which is on the voter rules. So I see how their addresses to these UPS stores into these PO boxes. And you can actually do that. And so there's all these problems that could be solved if you were just to show your voter ID when you go in vote. Now when you do go in vote in California, their way of flagging it is if the signature is not aligned. So

there's 39 million people are so in California. Let's say 10 million people go in vote.

They are literally saying that we are going to scan each and every single signature. And if the signature is not right, that vote will then be investigated. Right. And it's the slant of the signature. Right. Who's to say that somebody is not going to go in vote on behalf of Mandy, who's a hundred and 26 years old, who doesn't even know she's under 26 years old,

and go up and show, say she's Mandy and go in vote. So there's so much voter fraud. It's insane. This is enraging. Yeah. It's very enraged. I mean, it all is. It all is. So you

“all you have to do is write a signature. Yes. No nothing else. You just have to say you're that”

person and then sign the signature. In fact, it was so easy to register to vote in California, a lady who was actually a Republican registered her dog to vote.

And the dog voted in two elections. The first election it voted successfully. The second election,

the dog got caught because the person reported herself.

Like the dog had its own name. Everything it registered to vote.

“Like that's how easy it is to register to vote in California.”

And it's funny. Because then I go post that video and I'm like, okay, this is like super simple. A dog registered to vote. You then have Democrats out defending the dog. Like you idiot, that was a Republican. I'm like, you realize this isn't a Republican or Democrat issue. A dog was able to vote. And the only reason I got caught was because the owner reported

herself. And it like, well, it didn't count. Like, no, it counted. It voted in that first election

and that vote counted. Like it's very enraging because I'm going about showing people these issues to have become controversial, that aren't controversial. And then you have people defending it. What do they say? I mean, what do they what? What are they saying? They're like, they literally said, you idiot, that was a Republican who did that and it got caught. Like, no, that dog still voted. Like, you don't have a problem with the fact that a person with that, not a person, a dog,

without a human body was registered to vote in a US election. Like, we are a first world country where the best country in the world, most advanced country, yet a dog is able to vote in

our elections. Do you have any idea how much voter fraud is going on there? How many fraud,

fraudulent votes? How long this has been going on? A lot. I mean, if you look at the election, the only state that Trump didn't win were states that didn't need voter IT. And those states are more Democrat. And I don't doubt that he didn't win those states, but it's crazy that the own state that didn't require a voter ID or the state that Trump lost. What other states, some require a voter ID? Minnesota. In fact, in Minnesota, you can vouch on behalf of

other people to vote. Excuse me. Yes. So on the day of voting, in Minnesota, save, you work at a building or people inside your apartment, I believe. You can vouch on behalf

of others to vote. So like, say that person can get to the voting, the voting place to vote,

the voting voting post. You can vouch on behalf of other people. So you could take it, take that paper, and then have those sign in and then bring it. And you're vouching on behalf of those individuals.

“So you're voting for multiple people. Yes. Well, theoretically, other people said that's what they”

wanted and they signed it or whatever. I'm not from Minnesota, so I don't understand exactly how someone goes and vouches for somebody else, but you can literally vouch on behalf of other people. And so you just take the piece paper, go around the corner, sign it with a different signature, bring it in, but I go, yeah, my buddy wants me to vote for him today. Do you radically that can happen? There's no vote right either. We're else. I want to say I know New York as well. I don't think

they have voter ID, like, dormant bounty. He wanted people to show two forms of ID to shovel snow, but you don't actually need an ID to vote. So like, they're taking all these issues that are not controversial, making them controversial. So it's very bad. Yeah, sounds like it. Because essentially, Sean, if your vote doesn't matter, what does matter? Like, a few will can't trust that their vote actually matters. Like, what does matter? Like,

we live in a democracy, but how do we know that it's a democracy if our vote doesn't matter?

“But you don't have to write your birthday or anything now. You have to say you're that person”

and then you sign. You might have to say what your birthday is, but it's on the voter rolls. I don't, I don't bow in California, but that's how you go. You literally show up to the place, say you're that person and then they give you the ballot and you vote. We got 125 years old, so if somebody writes their birthday down, it was like 1900. Yeah, that doesn't raise. And there's like hundreds of them. Like, thousands of them. I go to the doors. I knock on the door because I

have the address from these voter rolls. And they're like, no. I'm like, she's 81. Like, it's, it is so stupid. And it could be solved if someone were just to show their own ID. What's this month-long election process? Yes, then it takes that they can verify an election for up to a month in California as well. So they have these month-long voting. Like, you can vote for a month-long essentially. Like, they can count the votes for a month. How can we not,

how can we live in a country where they take a literal month to vote? And I just gives time for

Like, you make a very solid case to show how easy it is for an illegal to vote for instance.

And they get so mad at you. Wow, dude. We have some serious problems taking place in the country right now. Is there a bit any chatter about how they're going to fix those? Well, they're trying to pass the save act, which would require voter ID and federal elections in California to actually just,

“they got enough signatures to be able to put that on. I think it's a proposition to require”

voter ID inside the state of California. And we'll see if it gets passed. I mean, they still have to enforce it. It's just like what you were saying earlier. I would, uh, Gavin Newsom said. I mean, it's great. He tried to fix it, but you still have to enforce it. Yeah. You still need to enforce it.

And you actually need to serve the people of your state, whether they're Republican or Democrat.

If this many people want it, it's not like an 80-20 issue. I would say that's a 90-10 issue. I think everyone can come to their senses and say, we should show our ID when we go and vote. Well, what I mean, did you get any, did you get the pulse of the citizens error? Did you talk to anybody? Do they want that? If you ask anybody and you have a conversation with them, they will come to their senses and say that makes sense. And the majority of people I talk to

think it needs to happen. I didn't speak to one individual. He's like, "No, I don't mean, I don't why would I need that?" I'm like, "Well, you need it when you go to their port."

He's like, "Even that, that, I don't want to do it." I said, "Well, that's the thing.

That's the logic of that person who doesn't want it." It's like, "It's too much effort." How are you received there? Is everybody hate you in California? No, people love me in California. Really? Like, literally, everywhere I go, more people love me than don't like me. Because they're seeing these scams in these fraud take place. It's just that small group that get upset. It's a fraudsters. They also haven't been the most

“outspoken, the most violent and the most vicious. What's going on on Skid Row?”

Skid Row, they will get homeless people to sign these petitions saying that there's somebody to get enough names to then pass like propositions or to be able to pass bills or to be able to like, they'll use homeless people to get votes to be able to go through whatever political campaigns taking place. That's been happening for a long time. So like, Camhake Bee, James will keep they did a very good expose on that, showing how easy it is in people are paying people like five

bucks, here's five bucks for a stature. I've seen that take place on Skid Row as well. We know I got something heard of children living in tents and Skid Row. What is that all about? Yeah, so then Skid Row, I got, I saved a kid in his mom who were homeless. They've been homeless for about 10 days or so on Skid Row. And I put him in a hotel, put on my social media saying, this is happening.

“And within a few days, we got the kid out of the streets and into a shelter where he's now enrolled”

into school. Meanwhile, there's NGOs that receive millions of dollars inside Skid Row and they left the kid in his mom all alone, sleeping in a tent next to drug addicts, next to gang members. This is like a legit, single mother trying to care for her kids living in a fucking tent, yes, Skid Row. Yeah, because I mean a lot of homeless people, it maybe happens during for a week or it happens for two weeks, they're trying to take, they get kicked out of a house and

they need to get, they need to get back, put back on their feet. And so then they become homeless, but they have these kids. And these kids should be like the number on priority for a state. And so I was filming this whole separate video and I see this kid in this tent, I said, well, like, who am I to go out and do this journalism or who am I to go show people what's happening and actually not be a part of the solution? So see this kid on that cable, this is not happening,

like we're not going to let you sleep here in this tent or get you in a hotel, I'm going to make sure we get the hotel and we're going to send your mom to, we're going to send your mom five hundred dollars and by that time we're going to find somebody to take care of you and your mom. So within literally three days we were able to get a kid off the street of Skid Row into a hotel and then into a housing system that then gets him enrolled into school and

had nothing to do with the government. Good man. Good man. How bad is it? I mean, you've been

No, in fact, it honestly just gets worse. Describe to me how bad it is.

Like homeless wise. It's everywhere. What do you mean everywhere? Like you'll be in Beverly Hills. One block away. You'll have a person passed out in bed, no. Or you'll have a person living in a tent. And the quality of life there for people have just come to their senses, like, oh, we're just going to live with it. But you don't actually have to live like that. It wasn't happening 23 years ago from everyone I talked to California. They're like, this is not what California was.

“That's why if you are so upset about it. Because now you have these people hooked on fettin'”

all their doing drugs and then you have a state that continues to give billions and billions of money, but it just gets worse and worse. And so this homeless industrial complex that they've created inside of California, they've figured out that if they receive more money, well, if we receive more money, why would we stop the solution because then we stop receiving more money? And so each person, each NGO is actually incentivized to keep the homeless going

because it makes them more money. They're able to buy more properties with that money. They're able to build up their assets and they're able to get rich while homeless continues to run like rampant. Wait, so people are opening shelters? Is this? Yes. So I have another video coming out. I haven't posted yet. And in that video we kind of investigate the homeless industrial complex. And we see

“wearing all this money's going because for instance, 24 billion dollars went on account for”

just a few years ago. Don't many knows where that money went. Well money goes somewhere so you can you can track it. And these are a lot of these NGOs that go up and buy these hotels or buy the department complexes. And a lot of times they're actually not even housing homes people. They're housing low income individuals. And then putting them on better than on section eight. And so then the NGOs that then continue to receive money from the government who pay the

section eight. So the person renting the apartment might only have to pay $30. Meanwhile, the government's giving them $1,800 for that apartment. And so these NGOs then they just continue to buy up these apartment complexes or these hotels. And they just accumulate more and more and more assets. So this is a big business. Big business. This is happening everywhere. California is like the worst of it. I think it does happen in other states like for instance, the New York City.

Their average spend for a homeless person is $81,000. That's more than the median household income inside the city inside of New York City. So take care of one homeless person. It's $81,000 in New York City.

“$81,000. That's what I mean. What does that go to? To the housing?”

Like literally like who knows? Like one of the key aspects is a housing, but $81,000. And that's more than the median income. Yeah, it's just equal.

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“No. And it's actually, it just pisses me off. And I think that's why I was trying to see so many”

people look at these issues and be like, okay, let's just figure this out. Because this is

costing everyone so much money. R quality of life is actually not getting better. And we're just seeing a lot of these politicians, NGOs, and rich themselves. Meanwhile, we're still doing our day-to-day, working hard, paying taxes, and all this crap stuff. And country looks like shit. We're just describing it right now. Tents, fentanyl needles, thumbs everywhere. Fucking trash all over the place. Our road system sucks. Our power grid fucking sucks. I made it say to me,

then you go to some other countries. It doesn't fucking look like that. No. Not everywhere. But, you know, we keep getting fed this fucking nonsense. Oh, we're the best country in the world.

“I don't know. Are we? Are we? We should be. And damn right, we should be. That's what makes”

me mad. Looks like shit here. Yeah, it really does. And every big city in America, you can go somewhere and you'll see people pass down fentanyl. For instance, I literally walked over a dead body in San Francisco. And then a little kid then walked over that dead body. Oh man. And so it's like the suicidal empathy that's killing our country. And then when you do try to bring out the solution, you're attacked. Like people come after you for trying to get there. It's interesting. I mean,

who's, that's what I mean, that's why I was asking when you go to California or any of these other places, you know, how do you treat it? You're telling me that everybody loves you there. They want you there. They want you to uncover the shit. Where are the attacks coming from? Because I see it. I see it on your social or just hammering you. I saw the meme from Nussan's team. So that's the

problem is you, like even if it's 1%, that's a few million people like in the country. So if it's

1% that's 3 million people, which is a ton of people. And they're going to be a lot louder than that other 300 million. So I'll give you like a good example. I'm out of this gas station, California. Some guy comes up and he yells like, "Aff you, Nick, surely." At the same time, some other man comes up to me. He grabs my hand and he says, "You have no idea how many people are praying for you." And so, and he says it's super silent, like very quietly, very humble. Meanwhile, you had this

other person yelling at you, Nick, surely. So you had that 1% that is literally crazy, like literally insane. And then you have the vast majority who see what you're doing and are supporting you. But that 1% is a lot of people. If you're in a crowd, if you're in a big crowd, 1% can make a big difference. What is this new video you said you're working on? Yeah, it's going to be about the homeless industrial complex in California.

What else you got? When's this releasing? Yeah, it's going to come out in the coming weeks. I've been traveling a lot, so I need to sit down and deal edit it all. I'm working on that. I have some other fraud cases I'm looking into. You want to talk about it? This isn't going to come out for a couple of weeks.

like these mega enterprises that are seeing millions and millions of dollars. And I mean, some

NGOs, their assets are upwards of half a billion dollars, half a billion dollars.

Yes, they've been accumulated by a bunch of money and assets. And they'll buy a hotel for instance. And then they'll value that hotel room for $200,000. And it's really like a 10 by 10 room with a shower in the back. And these aren't just in bad areas. Like one of the parts I'll show my videos a hotel in Sino, California. That's one of the wealthiest zip codes in the last Angeles area. Just next to it are 10 million dollar mansions. And they're going to be bringing

in trouble with use and homeless individuals into this hotel next to these 10 million dollar mansions. Oh, but they're love that. Yeah, and then people still are still going to vote for a democrat.

“Like, if you are still going to vote for the people that continue to love this happen. Like, I think”

Karen Bass is still going to win. Hopefully she doesn't. But I think she's might win for mayor again in LA. Oh, boy. Oh, man. How about the theft? You remember what right before? What I guess for the past four years would just been seen. Just mobs of people, Ramset, Target, jewelry stores, the Apple store, anything inside. Is that stuff still going on? Have you seen that stuff going on still? I think that slowed down. I think they changed

whatever was allowing people still upwards of $900. And walk away. They did change it. What did they start forcing the law? I think they started to enforce the law. I'm not 100% sure on that. But I knew I know at one point you were able to steal.

“I believe upwards of $900. You think that was over embellished? What do you mean by that?”

Do you think that the media was over embellishing? No comment that was. No, I have no idea. I don't, I just, I don't go there. I don't know. I don't go to California. I see what I see. Am I out? I don't need to go there. No, they weren't actually in CVS. You have to literally wait for somebody to come and unlock the door so you can buy a deal to it. People were stealing everything. In fact, if you just wait around long enough at a CVS in California, they'll catch someone

shoplifting. A lot of the stores are just like leaving. They did a lot of damage to the country. On an East Biden, like underneath those unearthed from like 2020 to 2024, a lot of damage took place. Like damage that is hard to fix. What do you think motivated them to start enforcing the law? People leaving the state. A lot of high wealth individuals decide to leave. People complain. They all love for taxes.

Yeah, but I mean, it's just like the average person who's living inside that city. They don't want to have to live with that. Like a mom shouldn't have to worry about her son walking over a dead body. Like I saw in San Francisco. Yeah, yeah. It's like this suicide empathy that's killing the country. And like this straight up delusion.

Like this brainwashing. Like you can't think critical these days. I feel like, well, that's no

“shit. What else you got coming up? You know, what's peaking your interest?”

Like the fraud's really bad. I do want to get back to doing some like international videos. Um, like I did a lot of like work in like El Salvador where I went and showed what was happening. Like that was super fun to go. And I like the first one ever to report on the prisons there or to go to the favelas in Brazil. It's just now harder for me to like move around in the United States like go film a video. Yeah, I'll bet it is. The fraudsters like they're on high alert.

Protesters are on high alert too. Because a lot of the protesting here in the United States isn't organic either. And they're that crazy one percent. Because I was popular before all this stuff. Like I still had like millions of followers. And now it's gone up exponentially.

And the fraudsters always complain the loudest and they don't want. They don't want to be exposed.

You're going to have to come up with some good disguises. I know that's a people keep telling me to do, but also it's actually like just going like as I am. Like, hey, answer the question. If you have nothing to hide, just answer the question. If you do, you're going to run or you're

the administration now? Or are you, do you have a direct line in? No, like me, I think that's why I've been so effective because I'm not working for the federal government. I'm just a one man going out and doing it. And if they want to see the video on extra on YouTube and then go investigate, go ahead. I do, I want to mind if they like sent me, open up some of the databases. Like I think they

“should open up all the databases to the public. And that's why they're actually having such a big”

problem with like fraud. And like New York, for instance, like the home health care is like the number one business inside of New York right now is home health care. People will sign up to watch their grandma's and make money from the government, but New York doesn't want to give over that information. Which is a problem? If you've been in contact with Newsom, not really know. No,

he did have some key points. California acted first. He signed the Senate Bill 664 in 2001

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“moratorium. I think that, but I said the damage had already been done.”

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There was some controversy around your channel five interview with Andrew Calahan.

A lot of people online were bashing you online for the word benevolent. What what's your response to that interview? Yeah, the interview with Andrew is a two and a half hour long interview. He cut it down to an hour long interview. So imagine me and you come have this conversation for two hours and you just chop out an hour like everything you say. Yeah. That's not how podcast works.

“Oh, man. And that was very messed up on his part, I believe. To go out, go about and doing that.”

I was very kind. I let him come to the location where I had I told him to film it. He looked.

I actually made me mad too. But first, so I had, I was like 72 hours after I posted the video.

I've been off functioning off of literally like six hours of sleep that day. Or six hours of sleep, it was past three days. I said like me and Andrew boys, let's do the interview. I'm like, I don't like, I'm down to have a conversation. In that text prior, he's like, I would've been getting dogs and stuff like that and said, yeah. Like, here's the location, come film. And so then I see the interview and I see, I'm like, wait,

what is this? Like, this is like all chopped up. You don't put in your answers.

“So the questions where you know you're wrong as well. Like, that's not a fair interview.”

And luckily, I had filmed it on the back end too. Nice. And so you said, yeah, I released it. Good man. And I'm not going to say that was my best interview by any means. Like, I wasn't functioning at 100% to be honest. I just thought like, like, I thought we were boys and obviously we weren't. And yeah, I mean, I messed up on the word benevolent, my bad. Have you heard, have you heard from a sense? He then made a full reaction video to the video.

And what makes me mad is he knew that I, not to say the city I was in. And he does that in the reaction video. I was like, cable, you just dox me. What an asshole. Yeah, exactly. Wow. Wow. You just met Elon Musk and you were awarded $100,000 from X for your investigative article. What was your conversation with Elon Musk? And is there something bigger coming between you and Elon that you haven't announced yet? I think we both just wanted to meet each other. And with

first thing I said to Elon was just like, thank you. Said like, thank you for X for having a platform where real world change can take place. It's all these other social media platforms like YouTube

for instance, I post that Minnesota video. It got 4 million views. I post on X. It got 150 million views

in within seven days all together across all social media across the internet. That video got 4 billion. Wow. Wow. 4 billion. Be holy shit, dude. Yes. Holy cow. And I said, thank you. My whole channel has like 2 billion views. Yeah. So that Minnesota video. Oh my gosh. It's the most viral video

“potentially ever in the internet. The most viral video on X. That's what they told me on X as well.”

And so I said, like, thank you. Like your platforms where real world change can happen. This can't happen anywhere else. You know, I don't think too many people actually like say thank you to Elon Musk like to people realize what he's actually done for society. Like between Starlink, between Tesla, between the between X, between the tunnels like to people realize how much this man has done PayPal too. Like to people actually realize how much impact this man has had on society.

And everyone just wants to demonize Elon Musk. And so I'm sitting there and looking at him just, I'm like, wow, like this man has done a lot for society. And he's taking his time to just talk with me. I keep, I think we both just wanted to meet each other and to have a conversation. I mean, not only that, he's also motivated and entire new generation of innovators. Oh, and they're all building not all of them, but a lot of them, I interview a lot of them.

That's that's their inspiration. And a lot of them are building, are innovating things that are going to go along with his mission to Mars or whatever. I mean, it's it's it's it's it's it's it's huge 100% and just it's fired. Yeah, and just like the drive to still be doing this. Like he doesn't need to be like what he's not money driven. Yeah, and everyone wants to get mad at him for having money. I'm like, that's just what happens when you provide such value

because like the first floor of X is like the first floor of X is kind of like more like a common area

and like there's like a cafeteria and they have their offices where they're doing certain stuff and then you get up to the second level where he's that and that's like more more like serious vibe. Like all the lights are dimmed. There's a lot more, a lot more like artwork of like the space X like the like X like the the galaxy and stuff like that and then you get back to where Elon is and he has all his security and there's windows and he has security everywhere like almost

nearly every single window there's a security guard and so then his assistant comes and grabs me and I walk over to Elon and take my hand take me in we have this conversation and we like I said

the first thing I said is like thank you like for what you've done and I told him like some

“things I think he like that X can improve on and then I was super nervous I had like a whole”

nightmare of stuff I thought I was gonna have to like lead this conversation and then we just started talking about like the fraud and his experience with exposing the fraud and like how incompetent government can be at times he told me like in PayPal when they are building PayPal they like come up they make these cases of the people that are committing the fraud and give them to the FBI and he'd like go like like rest these people in the FBI wouldn't do it or or take a long longer time

and he kind of talked about how kind of incompetent the government can be and then we just talked about like how corrupt it is and like how suppressed we could become a little happen if we do become suppressed and oppressed from from the government what does he say will happen potentially like a work could break out or states that could start to succeed we talked I mentioned like yeah like I one of the reasons why I got into this is because I started to

see what's happening in the UK I told him this and he's like I can't go to the UK

“he's like he said I think I'd be arrested and he says people people don't realize how bad it”

is until we are oppressed to a point yeah man can you imagine being in my position just like sitting there talking with Elon he was it was very surreal all better was man all better was right here's only funny though yeah so I probably had like the craziest 72 hours of my life because

within 72 hours I met the richest man in the world then the most powerful man in the world

talks about media and cabinet meeting and then I meet the vice president as well all within 72 hours produced for the reason yeah also went to seven different states in between those 72 hours it's like make all the stuff happen life's a hell of a ride in it yeah it really is it's fun well but it's awesome well look I can't wait to see what you got coming next thank you

“keep going man I was important thank you you've all you've been actually one of the first”

people I openly like supported me I remember seeing your tweets like you said something about like this kid has it essentially and then someone's like someone's like what do you make to think that and you literally said just wait you see I was right wasn't I you were no matter where you're watching the Sean Ryan show from if you get anything out of this at all anything please like comment and subscribe in most importantly share this everywhere you possibly

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