#310 Josh Duhamel - Transformers Star Reveals His 26-Acre Off-Grid Survival Compound

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Josh, do you have a welcome to the show, man? Thank you for having me shown. This is a real pleasure to be out here and see what you built. This is pretty impressive for you. Thank you. Thank you.

That builds a whole lot coming from you. So I appreciate it. I got a level up, man. This is... I thought I had a cool place, but this is by far in a way, but I'm like, "That gun range."

I'm definitely going to steal that idea.

(laughter) Maybe if we have some extra time, we can go out there and break it in. So, but, uh, let me give you an introduction here real quick. Josh, do you know, an acclaimed actor, director, and producer known for your roles in Transformers, safe haven, Las Vegas, and Netflix, ransom Canyon.

You got your start on all my children, earning a daytime Emmy early in your career. You're a North Dakota native who stayed closely tied to your roots, spending more time there, as you've stepped away from the Hollywood lifestyle. You've stepped into business as the founder of Gatland, focused on men's health and performance, and I saw women's health.

It means in women's, yeah. Most importantly, you're a Christian, a father, and a husband. Well, that's great to know. So, uh, a couple of things that cranked out here before we get going.

“One, everybody gets a gift, would you want to leave gummy bears?”

Oh, nice. Probably don't go well with longevity and men's health. So, these like, these like funny gummy bears? Oh, man, it's just great gummy bears. Okay, good.

They'd miss you again. Nice to know. Thank you for that. I got you something too. You want me to give it to you now?

Sure. I think you're going to like this. So, I was going to start with the gift, so this is a knife made by my friend Cody Adolfson, little wolf ironworks out of, this one won't be coming. Sure.

Yeah, it's got this Damascus steel, North Dakota white tailed deer antler from the handle. You look at them back. It's got a little breathing from the Bible. Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another proverbs. Thank you.

Yes, sir. Pretty cool. It's awesome. Yeah. Anyway, I know you like knives are kind of cool.

Thank you. I got myself one, too, by the way. It just seems to get myself myself, and I really. This is awesome. Thank you.

Yeah, you're welcome. Appreciate it. And then, one other thing, we got a Patreon account, it's a subscription account. They're the reason I get to sit with you here today, so they get the opportunity to ask every single guest, a question.

Okay. Josh, you've lived in Tudor for America's Hollywood and North Dakota.

What is one lie in each world believes about what it takes to make a man strong and what

did real life teach you instead? Oh my gosh.

“What is one lie that each of those two worlds Hollywood and North Dakota?”

Yeah. Let me start one North Dakota. I think that one of the things that I think my wife and I just talked about this yesterday, because we have a little baby girl in my way. And I saw that.

I wrote in her book to her, she said, "Stand tall." Don't be afraid to, you know, "Stand tall" and be exactly who you are.

And I think that one thing that I had overcome by coming from North Dakota, because it's

a very humble state. The people there are very sort of salt to the earth. Nobody wants to stand out. It's just kind of like a very blue collar, but common-sensical place that, you know, for me, leaving there and trying to go off to Hollywood and do things.

It was scary thing for me, because I didn't feel like I deserved it.

“And I think that's one of the lies that I learned from North Dakota was that you do belong,”

you do belong wherever you dream to go. And I think that's one of the things that I learned from that and one of the things that helped me back for a long time, really, wow. As far as one of the lies that I learned from Hollywood, but I would say that... You don't necessarily have to play the game by the rules.

As long as you show up to your job and are dependable and reliable to the people who are making whatever project you're part of, you can believe what you want, you don't have to believe what they tell you to believe. Good stuff. So I read that you are kind of putting your acting career, Hollywood career on the back burner

to concentrate on family, get back to your roots, and slow down. I wouldn't sound putting on the back burner, I'm actually working more now than I have in my life, which is right on, honestly, it's like I'm very grateful for that because this is a hard business to get into and to stay relevant in, and I've been doing it for 26 years, so I would say that, you know, because I am busy now that ever, it's

also made me realize that I don't want to work this much, I'd rather be home with my wife and my kids, and out on my compound, doing that stuff. So I'm just trying to be smarter, I think I'm trying to not take as many jobs, just trying to work a little bit of a sport, and really working on this company gotten as something that I'm as excited about as anything, I'd rather honestly be working on that than anything

else. Really? I mean, I think this is an interesting conversation because I think about this all the time. So we were kind of just talking outside, I got two toddlers now. Time is going, six and four, four and two, four and two, four and two, little, and time

is just going by so damn fast, you know, and look at old photos and you're like holy shit, man. Yeah. It moves quick. Yeah, and you realize you're aging just as fast, oh yeah, but you don't see that.

That's true. Love your old, and to see how quickly he went from two to twelve is like, you know, it just goes by like that, and so, you know, the idea that I get to do it again with my little two-year-old and then this little girl that's on the way, I think it makes you really appreciate it that much more.

So you've got a four-and-a-two-year-old, you'll see it, it just flies by, you know, so one thing I think I've learned, especially from Axle, my twelve-year-old, is that I got a stay as present and, and there with them as much as I can because you don't get those days back. Yeah.

So, I mean, how are you going to do it? Because I think about, like I said, I think about this all the time.

Ever since my son was about to, because I had, you know, the first two years of my

year, the only one mom, that's, it's just diapers and boobs, milk, you know, so there's not much for dad. So I was, I was, I was thought, I will bury my head in my work until I realized

“that I'm needed or wanted and, or start showing interest, maybe that's what I'm saying”

instead. And around two years old, this one that started happening, and so I've been ever since two, I've been trying to try and to structure my business so that I can step away and

But it's hard to remain present at home with all this shit going on.

Because you're probably similar to me, or I'm similar to you in some ways that, I mean, I was born to, like, put my head down and work. It's all I've ever known, it's just to like, grind my way to whatever I'm trying to get

“to, but, do you mostly live here, do you travel a lot?”

I travel, I've been, I travel a decent amount, but I don't, it's in and out. It's quick trips to DC, or if I'm interviewing somebody overseas, or something like that. But I, I am also, have decided to work smarter, so I turn a lot of shit down because it's just not worth my time to be away. Well, considering a blessing though, the fact that you get to stay, you're mostly here.

Yeah, see for me, it's like nothing shoots in the LA anymore.

So I have to go, you know, didn't go into BC, British Columbia work for a month, and then

I go to Malaysia for six weeks, and then I come back and then I go to Winnipeg for another thing. So it's like, that to me is what I need to like, I need to like, do much less of that because these kids, even if, even if they come and visit, it's still, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on settle day and I come home at night and I try to get them up in the morning and put

them bed at night, but it's not enough, you know, they need me more than that. And so to be traveling so much is really what kills me, you know, because I, I'm gone for a week and I come back and I can see my two year old is like, grown up, you know, just in that week, you know, and, you know, I'm missing a lot of that stuff, and I don't want to do that.

So I just got to be smarter about how I do it, so I got to make a living and still going to, you know, maintain lifestyle that has become pretty expensive, but, you know, I don't need to do that. I don't need to work as much as I have been, which is what I'm really focused on, just mean, smarter about it.

Yeah.

“Everybody's something else that said, um, I think you, did you live out of your car for a while?”

No, no, my dad did your dad did my dad did for a short while after, uh, after they got to forth, he hates when I tell this story, but it's amazing, because my dad is one of my favorite people in the world, he's just incredible dude, um, and I had a really rough

time coming out of, you know, the divorce, you know, we're like, why does dad always close,

like, on a rack in the back of his car, we found out that he was like, live it in there for a couple of months, so, yeah, but I never had to do that, thank God. We did bounce around a lot as a kid, you know, we, we, after the divorce, it was a rough couple of years, really, after they got, I think it was an 84, they got divorced, I think that's right.

And, uh, you know, we'd bounce from how a friend stouts to friend's house, and it was just, it was, for us, we didn't really know much different, but there was a point that said, why don't we keep moving around, what are we doing?

“And then we ended up getting this little box of a house in Northeast Mine at North Dakota,”

and that was kind of when we started to settle in, but it was a, it was a rough couple of, rough couple of years there. So we're up kind of going with this is, I mean, obviously, your financial situation has drastically changed since those days. And, um, I'm kind of, you know, I built a pretty decent business here and I didn't come

from money, I'm not used to any of this, and, you know, and, like, leaving the seal teams, leaving contracting for the CIA, you know, I was broke, and I built a really awesome business here and now I'm not broke, but looking back, times were a hell of a lot simpler back. Yeah.

What I asked you is did, did the money, did the, the new financial situation, I mean, did that make your life more simple, did such a good question, Sean, did it make more simple? No, I don't think it makes it more simple. What I do think it does, it buys you a little freedom, buys you the ability to, they say

money doesn't bring happiness, but it sure does bring freedom to do some things that you want to, you know, you get to kind of shape world around you a little bit more, you're not really at the mercy of anything, if you, if you can, if you're lucky enough to afford it, but I don't think it necessarily makes you any happier, you know, for me, it probably makes things a little bit more complex, you know, because with money and power and all

these things, you know, there's, like, Spider-Man, you know, comes great responsibility. You know, you can probably feel I just buy what you've grown, a lot of people are dependent on you now to, you know, answer what are the questions they have throughout the day or how do what's the next move and, you know, sort of falls on you. But I, you know, I posed this question to you is, how do you, and how do you, in part,

the seal teams and the contracting and all the things that you built here because of something inside of you that had this drive to go, build it, achieve it. How do you part that on your kids? Because that's one thing that I, you know, you can't, you can't manufacture, you know, hardship, you know?

Yeah.

“I don't know, man, I think about this all the time and my son and my daughter are wildly”

different. I mean, it's kind of interesting, you know, the second one comes out and you're like, I've entered this ship before I was looking to see it, then they've come and it's like, well, this isn't the same person at all, but my daughter is stubborn. She is going to be a fucking badass.

She just, well, not the young one. She's the younger one. It was the younger one. She's like me.

My son is like very loving, so inspiring, always watching out for a sister, I don't know what

his drive is yet, but anyways, where I'm, I think about like, man, I, the same thing, like, I have all these, these things that I've learned, you know, throughout life and how do I inject that into my kids, you know, this major life lessons, I don't know, man. I think one thing I do is, uh, I'll create, I'm not, not create scenarios, but I always make them figure it out.

So this kind of started, um, about a year ago. And my wife is a little more pampering than, well, I'm more pampering than I am. So if he can't figure something out, he'll ask me, you know, to help him, and I, I will

“help him, but I will say, now you need to figure another way out of this.”

There's always another way. Yeah. So what he was, he was trying to climb up this hill out of our creek. Yeah. He loves playing in the creek and it couldn't get up the damn hill.

And he's like, help me, Dan, he wants me to push him up, and I'm like, I'm not going to push you up. I'm like, you have to find another way.

No matter what problem you're going to face in life, there's always an angle that you

can take to accomplish what you want to. And so you need to start looking around, you know, and I'm, I'll point, like, hey, look, the hill isn't as steep over there. Maybe you should walk over there, you know, and, and so that was the first time that kind of clipping I had.

And so that's with my son, that's what I do now, is I've, I've forced him to find other avenues to get. What's great? What about you? Let's go.

That's great. That's great that you have this place to do that. The reasons I love my place out in the woods so much is, they got to figure things out. Like, I had to figure, I didn't know how to do anything when I got out there, you know,

I don't know, fix anything.

I would never owned a boat before, you know, all the things that go into owning land.

I mean, you just constantly working. And so I'm at the point now, my son is 12 and I'm still, yeah, that stuff doesn't stop. Now it's like, okay, dude, you're going to be looking after this place Sunday.

“You need to start watching how you want to go, you want me to pull you on the tube,”

go get it hooked up and ready to go. Then when you're done, you've got to properly roll it up and put, you know, little things like that to start instilling some, you know, ownership and some responsibility and accountability for it. I think is, I do the same thing.

I probably could have done a better job of it with my 12 year old. He's like your older one, super sweet kid, very thoughtful, very compassionate kid. But doesn't have that, but I'm a little two-year-old is a little badass. That one I got to watch out for, very strong will very much, very, very physical, much more physical than the Axie, but they're just different kids, both amazing but just different.

So, you know, that's a, you know, just to be able to start imparting whatever, whatever I know, whatever I've learned onto them and just start giving them responsibility, let them start figuring shit out on their own because he can't, I'm not going to always be here, you know. Yeah.

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“I advice for being a father is I think it's just, try to, the number one thing that I learned”

from my dad is something he even always teaching me is that he just the way he treated

people, the respect that he had for people that didn't matter what, you know, where they were at socioeconomically, you know, on there, forget this story, he used to use card dealership and it was right on Broadway in mind in order to code it. Next door that was this old guy named Art and Art wasn't very well off at all. He owned a little shack on this road and now it's all been demolished and they built

nicer and bigger buildings there, but he let's go out with one of the last holdouts. He didn't want to sell this little place and I remember going over to his house next door to my dad's used car shop and I said, he's poor isn't he dead, he goes, he's not poor, he's rich because he's happy, what he said, he's rich because something about that he's happy, that he lives a happy life, you know, so it wasn't, you know, placing

this guy's value or what I thought was value on what, you know, whether or not he made money and this is me as a little kid not knowing shit. Teach me that these guys, it doesn't matter how much money you have as long as you're

“living, you know, a full and happy life in this guy dead and I think that, you know, for”

me, it's like, I guess my point in telling you this is that I know my kids are watching me very closely and how I treat people how I handle my own business. So the only advice I could give, because I'm the last person to help you about a raise a kid, I'm still figuring it out myself, but they're watching you closely in the example you said is what is the way they'll go forward.

And that's weird, you at, I was just going to bring that up and I lost it and so I asked this question, I was going to say when we were talking about the knowledge transfer to your kids and so at least really, I mean, I think the best, you just said, I think the best thing you can do is just be the example that you want your kids to turn into, you know, and it sounds like your old man did that to you, your back in the Midwest and I mean,

I just, they are always watching and you know, I had incident the other day that I'm

and we were at the check-in counter, you got the bags and there was some miss app, it wasn't our fault and I was like, you are going to make us miss our vacation and a very heated way. And then my son looked at me and said the exact same thing to the woman behind the counter, or I did a face like, yeah, I was like, that wasn't good.

Yeah, I mean, listen, give yourself a little grace, but it's true, I have a story similar last year I've taken my son to school and we take the shortcut because we live in, he goes to school about 40 minutes, we have to drive in the heavy traffic to get there and

it's just, it's always just a slog, so I take the shortcut where you got to kind of jump

in and there's just a lot, you know, it's a stance till basically so I was trying to get in and this lady wouldn't let me in and I was like, and she just like literally cut me off. I was like, I'm like, I was like, oh, my kid was in the back seat. He couldn't believe it.

You know, I, the poor kid is mortified, I'm like, yeah, there's a good example of, you know,

“your kids are watching, do I want him to be a have like that?”

No. So, you know, I guess it keeps me in check, too. Yeah.

So, how did you, did you grow up in the woods?

So I grew up outside of town in Minut, North Dakota in this little area called Robinwood, five miles out of town and yeah, we were out in the country and I'd spend all day, especially in the summer, just out in the woods, catching frogs, catching turtles, salamanders, fishing, riding our bikes wherever we could go. And that was kind of, and then my parents got divorced, we had to move into town and

that's when, you know, that was sort of like the next phase of my life. So my early days from time I was probably a baby all the way up through fourth grade. I was out in the country. So I think the part of the reason why I have this place now is me sort of reliving that, you know, the little huckfin story that I lived as a kid, you know, I just love being out there,

really brings it back to being a kid and for me to now, you know, see my kids experience this and watch them sort of get to do the same things I did growing up was part of the

“reason I did it, honestly, really, is that what you asked?”

I asked because, yeah, I was just curious if you move, if you move back there for familiarity, you know, and did you want your family to experience what you had or if you were strictly there for the zombie apocalypse? No, it was, in the beginning it was, I guess I bought this place 16, 17 years ago and in the beginning it was just because I just wanted to get away.

I just wanted something really remote, really private. I was, you know, not trying to escape all the wood. I just wanted something different that I could get away to if I needed to and then it became something as the world got a little bit scarier, I was like, you know what, this is really glad I bought this thing, in fact, I'm going to buy the property next door too, so then

I had 55 acres out there and I was like these two little cabins and I really started thinking more about like, okay, how could I live out here so that if shit hits the fan, I can just live out here without, you know, uncomplutely unplugged.

So then I started taking steps to do that, which was, you know, solar, which I never

use. We ended up bringing electricity in, but everything runs off a propane, you know, and, you know, if we could fish, I could hunt, I could, I could literally, we got three wells out there, so I got plenty of water and in a food if I need it and then, you know, all the other stuff you need.

I love pumping. So I want to hang out on this topic as long as possible. I can talk to what it all day. All right, but we're, okay, where did you start? So you start?

“You got a small hung cabin out in the middle of the woods, right?”

So I bought, so, okay, so I bought 12 acres, half a parcel, nothing on it from this old guy named Cody, Craig Cody, KOTTE and then he passed away shortly after that and he had a little hunting shack in the woods on the parcel, half parcel next to where I just bought. No electricity in the water, outhouse, you know, he had these little copper wires running through there.

He turned on these little lanterns, these little oil lanterns, that's how he lived out there.

that I never said, because it was just so rat and fed, there's mouse and festive, I was like,

“there's too much, I'd leave there with the sore throat every time I just spend the night”

I was like, I'm going to clean this place up before I decide to like really start and wait, let's stand out here, so we go out, we camp a couple of days and then we just start fixing it up. And then the other property next door, that one up for sale and other 26 acres with another little cabin that had electricity but no water, so we dug another well.

So I had a well and I brought electricity up to the top one and then I have this little one on the water with electricity, but no up, built a well there, so now I have these two little cabins, but they're both little, now we've re-done them now and they're nice little guest cabins, but I still didn't, and so during COVID, we spent all of our time out there, I mean we had to wash dishes in the lake, shower in the lake, it was like, it was

so she had over legitimately, like a home setting for the first 10 years, I loved it, that's

all. Because I was costing it with pickaxes and it was shovels and it was clearing little spaces.

“I remember I found this little area down by the water, it was all sand, but it had”

all these dead logs and all the kind of overgrown I know and I just knew that if I could clear this off, we'd have like this beautiful little beach and sure enough, that became actual beach, my oldest son, when named it after him, and that's worth the kids just run wild now. I cleared up and it's beautiful now, but it was a lot of just, and then I got a tractor

and I got a skid steer and then it got to go, you know, we started moving, because then you could pop stumps and rocks and clear things much quicker, but for the first 10 years it was, it was a little like home setting, and I loved it, because I'd leave, I'd leave LA, I'd go out there and it's been two weeks, it just worked, whatever my little project was, and over the years now it's become like a really cool little spot that we just,

you know, my family loves it, my parents, my sisters, my wife's family, they all come out, we just like make the most memories throughout there, it's amazing, that's awesome, man.

“What are you worried about when it comes, what got you into the prepping?”

Well, what was the last story of this?

Well, I think it's, I think it's, you know, my, I've always had this, I don't know, recurring

not nightmares, more of like a daymare, about, I read this book by Wesley Rawls called Patriots, the guy to survive in the coming collapse, and it was based on the 2008 market crash, and things almost got sideways in Los Angeles, all over the country, I don't know, if you remember the banks, and everything was, we're freezing, and it was like a whole thing, but then the government built them out, and they sort of eased everybody's stress.

This book plays it out as if it just kept going, and there are these certain cells around the country that had a plan, that if things went sideways, we get on our walkies, and we all sort of send a message and we all go to our spot, and it was in Idaho, and it was like this camp where they would have, it was like a little mini militia almost where everybody had a certain skill sets, some were medical, some were weaponry, some were construction,

some were farming, communications, they all had, they all contributed, and if you didn't contribute, you're out, so it was like this little mini sort of militia of people that came with certain set of skills that had helped sort of fend off anybody that came, so that was kind of the beginning, everybody was like, I need to build something that if things do go sideways, I got up a plan to get a Los Angeles, and I got to have a plan to get

from Los Angeles to here, and once I'm here, we'll be able to figure it out because I'll have what I need, so that was kind of the beginning of it, and now what's your plan to get out of LA? I got a motorcycle, now I got kids, I don't know what I would do, I still got a, I got, I got a little dirt bike, but now I got a wife and I got three kids, so the plan is shifting,

it's, it's in development still, but you know, I had a whole thing where okay, if I have to, I'll get a boat in the marina, I'll take that up the coast and I'll have a truck in a parking garage, and I'm, I'm crazy with this stuff, because you know, when, when things lock down Los Angeles, and it'll, anything will set that off, I mean, you, those freeways lock up, and there's no getting out, so I need a way like to get out of there, like through

the hills down the water up, and then, then get out, see if I was a little bit tough for Sean, I, I could have been a Navy seal, but I just, I just not made it the same stuff you are. I have to say mindset, just not the same toughness, but that was kind of, I mean, I go, I really

of here, you know, and that was, that was the biggest, and it still is one of the biggest

“things, if we're there and we get stuck, how do we get out?”

If you looked at dual citizenship, what do you mean, are you that far down the rabbit hole yet? I mean, like Canada, Canada, a lot of, I mean, the top five places, I think, are Ireland, they have Irish roots, you can get it immediately, Portugal, but you got to learn Portuguese, literally it was on there, Canada was on there, what else was on there?

Paraguay was on there, really?

Yeah, which was always, I've always said, if I get to get the hell out of dodge, I'm going

to Paraguay. Why? It's too far south for the cartels to be running drugs up, there's no ocean, which means nobody wants to vacation there, there's nothing there, but farming and fucking cows, really, and nobody knows about it, so that was always my spot, so when I was taking any measures

to do that or not? Yeah, I'm like in process, but you don't have to leave the country to do it, to do it to all this? I don't know if it was just a piece of mind, I'm not, I'm not like in a, I'm not gonna abandon the fucking country anyways, I'm gonna fight for it, but if you know, but other people

have to fight for it too, and if nobody's fighting for it, then one guy fight for it

“is gonna do a damn thing, I think they're plenty of people who'd fight for it though.”

You think so? God, yeah. I don't know, man, sometimes I think it's all talk, I don't know. Which is why I'm looking at dual citizen. I haven't gotten that far down the rabbit hole, but, you know, so what are your fears

about? I mean, I know we sound like crazy, you know, tin foil hat wearing, what do you want? I mean, I mean, I think AI robots could be a real thing. You think AI robots could be a real thing? I mean, this AI thing is moving so quickly that I don't know if we can ever, we got to

get our, we got to wrap our arms around this thing, or it's gonna, well, it's interesting that all the people building AI are also building bunkers, like Mark Zuckerberg, that put a huge fucking bunker and Hawaii. They know a lot more about it than we are. I know.

“It's like, so speaking of AI, are you familiar with Claude?”

Yes. Okay. So, before he came on, we had Claude, anthropics AI scraped the entire internet on you and come up with the most viral question that would land with the audience. Okay.

There's the context. You spent a decade in transformers, films where the entire premise is robots coming to kill humans, then last month you told Fox News, you're now 72% ready for the apocalypse at your off-grid cabin, and you said, in quotes, "I'm less afraid of zombies and more afraid of AI robots now.

I don't know if we're ever gonna fully be able to protect ourselves from what's coming." Meanwhile, you spent 15 years quietly building a 26-acre compound 40 miles from the nearest store. So, here's the question. Okay.

Take us inside the compound. If somebody, if someone watching right now, wanted to start building their own version of what you've got, what's the gear gadgets or viable kit and guns you'd let them buy, you'd tell them to buy first? Well, first thing you need is water.

Electricity and water, until you pump to pull the water out of the well, so you need some sort of electricity, whether it's solar or something, you know, whether it's gas powered or whatever, you need something to pull, you need water. That was the first thing I did.

I have guns, hopefully I never need them for anything other than hunting.

What kind of guns? What would you recommend somebody to get? I got some nines, I've got shot guns, I've got rifles, things that are all legal and registered and anybody watching please know that. That's all in the up and up, but that's one thing, you know, protection, learn how to fish

learn how to hunt, and have shelter, I mean, for me, I built the shelters that I needed, but it's not, you know, it's not like it's a fortified, you know, military type anything. I'm going to, I'm actually really looking at, I have this old container, this old shipping container that we bought during COVID, that right now just acts as a shed for all my supplies, whether it's plumbing or extra wood or just tools, things that sort of overflow that go

in there.

First of all, I want to bury that, put a, put a, you know, under a concrete, thick concrete,

You go down in this thing, and then you have this whole, this whole bunker that I don't,

“I mean, listen, if, if they're coming, they're coming, I'm not sure if anything's going”

to stop it. I just hope that we wrap our arms around this thing and have some sort of guard rails so that they don't just, because it's, it's moving out of pace so fast right now that we can't even grasp it, right now. I mean, I, I was at this event in can last year called Canline, it's a big branded, branded

marketing convention, all the biggest brands go, and they talked the latest and greatest, and all they talked about was this AI, and how a year from the day it was, which is probably

six months ago now, a year from that day, it's going to be 60 times more powerful than

it was one year, 60 times. So you can imagine, you take that 60 times and then it just keeps growing exponentially, and I don't, I mean, I can't wrap my head around that. I don't know if anybody can. So I just, I just hope that we, you know, smart minds sort of come together and say, okay,

hold on, let's just slow this thing down a little bit if we even can it this one. I don't know. I don't know if you can. I don't know if you can. I don't know if you can.

I don't know if you can. I don't know if you can. I don't know if you can. I don't know if you can. I don't know if you can.

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I don't know if you can. I don't know if you can. I don't know if you can.

That's the six hour 365 macro with a six hour suppressor and six new optic line holds

17 rounds plus one in the pipe. What you're giving me this? Yeah. You probably have to take that to the cabin. I don't think that's going to fly in LA.

This is the coolest gift. Thank you. Yeah, we'll break it in here after this if we've got time. That is amazing. Thank you.

So much. What is it, uh, nine? It's a nine millimeter. Wow. Thank you.

You're welcome. Truly. Thank you so much. My pleasure, man. How do I get this back to Los Angeles?

We'll talk offline. Okay. How do I get this back to Fargo? Yeah. A registered in Fargo.

Yeah. So that's amazing. Thanks. You're welcome. You're welcome.

Look it out there in the cabin. Yeah. Uh, I would love to go through this ship with you. One thing you mind if I critique you a little bit? Yeah.

All right. One thing. So you're learning. Yeah. You're learning how to do all this.

Yep. You need books. Not fucking downloaded programs, not on computers. You know, textbooks on how to survive. Okay.

There's a really good series. This isn't a plug, but whatever. It's called Back to the Basics. And they have like a whole series hardback and it teaches you everything from fucking gardening to how to build a cabin to how to filter water, how to wash or clothes, how to make soap,

how to do all of it. So that way, you know, you don't have to learn it all right now. Right. So that's the fantasy. Because you never know.

I mean, what if everything goes down, everything's dark. We don't have, you know, our phones or computers just, you know, look everything up. Yeah. So that's the reason. Just to have books.

And then, and then it also, it's just like a piece, it's not a piece. I mean, you're going to use it. But you don't have to stress about known at all today because you have textbooks. Back to the Basics. It teaches you.

Okay.

“Because you have to raise chickens how to do it.”

Wow. That's cool. Yeah. It's a great series. So that would be something I would invest in, you know, and because then you can learn

as you go. Seeds. Okay. Seeds. I do.

That's a bunch of seeds. I just bought a ton of seeds. Good. Because I'm building a food plot. That's when our project is this year.

We're doing a big pumpkin patch. I think the deer are probably going to eat most of the pumpkins. But we're hoping in the fall we can take the kids up and just do a big pumpkin patch thing. And then I'm building. And I cleaned up the whole perimeter of this peninsula and I cleaned up all the wood,

all the old logs and stuff and I'm going to plant a million wildflowers.

It's not that those seeds are going to do us any good. You're talking about like what corn and what anything, corn, green beans, just lots of vegetables. Yeah. Lots of fruit.

You know. But I just storm and I've been and every time I go to a tractor supplier or wherever I'm just buying a couple of throw them in there. And where do you plant them all? No.

I just stop buying them all. Oh, you stockpile it. Okay. Is there an expression on those? You know, I don't believe so.

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“Okay, books, seed, books, seeds, the water stuff, do you have to have a like, well, you live”

on it. That's on a lake. Yeah. Not too worried about that. Now we've got three wells up there, which are really, really good water, so that I think

is good enough. Nice. The lake itself is all spring fed, so it's one of the clearer lakes in Minnesota, which is awesome. I mean, I'm not going to drink it, but if I had a boil that I guess we could, right?

Do you have a, you know, a Berkeley water filter is no. So it's a gravity filter, so you just, and it's like putting a bucket on top of a bucket, you know, it takes out like 99.9% of everything. Super. Yes, that here.

I don't have it here, but I have one at, I have a couple at the house. Okay. And yeah, so you could take literally just about any water dump in there and when it's done doing its thing, it's really good. Is that there somewhere?

And what do you buy that? Oh, you can probably, you can get them on Amazon all over the place. If you water filter, okay, yeah, another thing for you to go away, I think, I'll just I'll fix it. I'll fix it.

Another thing for your LA home, when you're in LA, Jeff is, if word about water, you can get a dehumidifier and a solar inverter, which you can get on Amazon for like 500

of the air, really.

And it's filtered, obviously.

So, and how much water does that make? Enough to... Yeah, it's great here. You're seeing one? I don't think so.

Yeah, you just run the dehumidifier, just pulls the dehumidity out of the air, and then there's a little tank inside the dehumidifier, I mean, you can, these are like, I don't know, a hundred bucks, maybe in a whole lot of people. And yeah, you just poke it up for your solar inverter, if you don't have power, and it's kind of, it's going to pull water fast, okay?

So, and that's called the water again. That's a dehumidifier. Just a dehumidifier. Just a dehumidifier. No, there's no, it's not called any else, okay?

All right.

“A lot of people pull them in their basements, okay?”

But good to know, yeah, what do you do for communications? What do you have for that? Are you planning on communicating? Yes. Well, I bought, I got on someone Instagram, and they work, they're amazing, they're walkies.

Yes, that'll like push to talk. Yes. They would you work? They work great. Oh, it's looking.

You just started using it. I just got them working this last time I was out there. Nice. They seem to work great, and apparently that you can work, they work, they triangulate with different satellites, and you can use them across the countries, even real.

I've never tried that, but I know that they work really well in our property, right?

Oh, man. How about you? What do you have? You use any kind of, I'm not going to set up with comms yet. Yeah.

I'll send you what I have. You've seen pretty good. What about ammo? I could use more. [laughter]

We call it way a good and we all.

“But I have a fair amount, but, you know, I think it's good to, you know, have enough.”

What kind of guns do you have? I got a 223. Nice. We've got a 21S, clock 2 to 1, SF, clock 17, cross. Shotguns, mostly for hunting.

Shotgun, bird guns, rifles, you know, for deer hunting. I got a crossbow out there. You got a 22? I do it with 22. Nice.

Yeah. That's the best one, man. She can take thousands of rounds with you at a moment's notice, because they're so light. Yeah. I got this.

What else do I have? I got this. What is this? This is a six hour. I just said 365.

365. I just got this one. I just got this one. [laughter] Right on.

Right on. Is the is the famine of the prepping? She thinks I'm a little bit crazy. But she also appreciates it, you know.

Because at first, and this, you know, bless her heart.

My wife is amazing. She grew up living that lake life. Her family is very close to where mine is. So she gets it. She loves being out there.

And we've made it comfortable now. For the longest time. She was with me during COVID and the whole thing. So it was like rough. Like.

Believe it or not, girls don't like having to go in her to outhouse in the middle of winter Minnesota. Walk outside in their stomach boots to go to the bathroom. It doesn't go over well. It's not like a.

You know, I could attract a lot of women with an outhouse behind your thing. But she must really love me. But now it's much more comfortable. You know, we built to me. But everything's got a bathroom.

We got plumbing. It's like, and it's beautiful. And we got this beautiful beach that we built. So it's, it's, it's not super posh, but it's comfortable. You know, I don't ever want it to feel too luxurious.

I like that it still feels a little bit rugged. And we still got to, you know, work to me. And we're 40 minutes from anything. So we got to come prepared. Yeah.

And so that part of it I love. I mean, every time I'm out there, it becomes similar to what you're talking about with the books back to the basics. It's like really just, I forget about all the stuff that I'm when I'm in Los Angeles. It's all about work, achieve, you know,

create, but out there, it's about survival. It's about making sure that my family and everybody's coming to visit us. Has enough water, enough food, enough heat. That's really where my head goes. And it's, it's a really liberating thing to not worry about the things that you do.

You know, in the real world and just sort of focus on what is actually important. I feel like you're mind to rejuvenates when you do stuff like to get out of the loop. How do you, how do you stay present with your kids in L.A.

“When you're, when you're in the mix, when you're working?”

You know, I just show up for everything. If I, if I'm in town on there, I take in the school, I take them to soccer, but I take them to basketball, I'll go to all the games, help them with their homework if they need it.

He's all in the basketball right now.

So he always wants to play any learning.

So I'm always out there, you know, just whatever I can, you know, because I've learned. See him, like we talked about as a two-year-old, and now a 12-year-old, like these moments matter, and if I'm gone for months at a time, I need to make sure that I am with them, and they know that I'm with them 100% when I'm here. So they don't ever feel it. They, my biggest fears looking back, going, you know,

I, you know, screwed my kids up because I wasn't around enough. You know, it's one of my biggest fears. I don't know what I do that. I want to make sure that they know that I am doing everything I can. Doing everything I can to, you know, be there for them as a dad. There's your wife, K.P. on the level. Oh yeah, she does.

Yeah, that day I'll be too much so. (laughs)

“No, she's great. She truly is the best thing that ever happened.”

And she's like, you know, in North Dakota, girl, you know, very level-headed, great mom. Loves my 12-year-old who was even her kid. How'd you made her? She organizes the place. She keeps everything sort of running at the house.

I met her in Los Angeles, believe it or not. She was living there. We'd communicate it through, you know, Instagram, believe it or not. And the friend of ours, like, actually got us in contact with contact. Because he knew her, and he knew that she was from North Dakota. She knew that I was from there, and he said, "You guys should meet."

And so, you know, we talked back and forth.

But never any, you know, real thoughts of a relationship.

Because she's younger than me. I didn't want to be that guy. Well, it turns out I am that guy. Because I met her, I brought her to my house.

“I invited her over for this barbecue, and I was like, "Damn, she's beautiful."”

She's such a beautiful girl. And then we started dating after that. And, you know, from there, I kind of knew that this is the kind of girl that I want to be with. Because I dated quite a bit after the divorce. And I was like, "Well, this is, I don't, Josh, back out in the wild.

There's not a good thing." [laughter] I thought, "I, I, I, I, I, I've forgotten how to, you know, you know, survive. You know, in the wild, you know, it's like, it's like a monkey that grows up in the zoo. You throw them out in the woods at the jungle.

You know, feed themself. [laughter] How long have you been married? Six years. Okay. So, you know, four years.

Is she an end of the worlder? End of the worlder?

“Yeah, she is. She, she, she, I think the, the apocalypse.”

That, around the corner. Not really, you know. She, she lets me, you know, she likes the fact that we're, I'm handling it. But she's not that concerned about it. Yeah. Yeah.

How about yours? Your wife is she. I would say it comes in waves. I mean, it, uh, pretty tuned in with what's going on in the world just because of this. So, when I come home and, uh, after a rough interview and come home and tell her all about what I've learned for the day, then she's like,

I'm glad we have three years of food prepped in the basement, you know, but, um, but, um, but, uh, I'm going to do that too. Yeah, we've, we've, uh, I mean,

I mean, ever since COVID, man, it's been, I've always been concerned, you know, just from my previous life.

But, um, it's just how I think I always think that the bottom's going to fall out at a moment's notice. Yeah. It's all a bit contingent to you guys. But, um, but, uh, yeah, she, she's in on it. It goes and waves, but sometimes she thinks I'm crazy and then something will happen and she'll be like,

I'm so happy. Yeah. Well, that's the thing is, you, sort of, a journalist to, you know, have a plan, protect us. You know? So, what did, I mean, I want to go under a little more detail.

I can't just be AI robots. What are you think's going to happen? What are your biggest concerns right now? Just feels as if the, there's an instability. There's a lack of respect for law and order, and people are really divided.

And I could see some sort of event where, this side. I don't want to call it a civil war, but I mean, it feels more and more like, you know, I don't feel like we're coming together. I feel like we're getting further and further apart.

I'm hoping to God it doesn't.

“The cooler has prevailed and we figure out a way to find some common ground because right now,”

it just feels too divided and people are too okay with hating the other end. Yeah, you know, and there's a real hate problem in this country. Yeah.

And it's like, and I'm seeing, I'm seeing people behave in ways they never would have behaved.

And I see it. I mean, I'm not going to give any examples, but well known people. I'm like, what the hell happened to you, dude? You're so blinded by your hate that you're just behaving in a way that's just like not you. And I see that all over.

I have a cyber truck. And I bought this thing well before any of this stuff was happening there. Well before any of the backlash against Elon was happening. And driving down the street in Los Angeles, I can't tell you. I'm going to be like, fuck you, fuck you.

It's like serious. I said it's just not okay behavior. Like, when does it okay to just do that? Like, that's just blinded hate.

“You know, for something that has nothing to do with it.”

Like, I can't drive whatever car I want to.

You know, I can, you know, but to have to like that kind of behavior to me scares me because people are irrational right now. And I just want to make sure that, you know, I do it. I can to keep the peace and to protect my family if I need to. Wow. Because it gets, it's getting, it's getting too, like,

too okay with like behaving in ways that it weren't okay even 10 years ago. It feels like it's becoming more and more of that. Do you see that in North Dakota? No. Not anymore.

Not even close. Damn, we don't, I don't see that around here. No. Wow. Yeah, it's just completely irrational behavior.

And it's because there's such hatred for the other side that people are just losing their minds a little bit. I used to see it, you know. You know, the farther we get from COVID, the ease, the ease and up. But I will say, like, well, whatever thing that's been going on, I did, the vibe that I'm getting is that maybe we are finding some common ground

with shit like the Epstein files and a lot of the stuff that's going on in the world. It seems like a lot of people are like, yeah. This isn't going hell with thought it was going to go.

“And I think I think there is a growing base of the country that is just,”

fuck and hating our government, our politicians. And I think that's a good thing because it's, at least it's something to you know. Well, hopefully it'll, it'll, you know, create some accountability. Yeah. You know, because I'm not getting too much into it because I don't like to,

I'm never going to preach to people about how to believe or what they should believe or

shame them for what they do believe. But you know, there's definitely got to be some accountability because there's been some heinous behavior that shouldn't just shouldn't be okay. And it's like a sad thing. It's just like things that we're not okay even five years ago or now seem to be somehow

brushed under the rug. It's like, no, that's not okay. Yeah. You know, I just want to make sure that we, you know, people are, are maintaining some clarity around like what is like okay behavior and what's not. You think this could all be biblical?

Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I'm thought about like that. You haven't? No.

You're a Christian, right? I am, but I guess I haven't made that connection. What do you mean? Well, I've been a lot of the things in the Bible that say that the, that, that, that, that, that, that. A lot of things are happening that the Bible says would happen.

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[Music] I don't know, like, what do you mean, like, spend on that? Well, I mean, you want me to expand on this. Well, I mean, right now there are free little legends all going at it in the world right now.

And that's supposed to happen. There are public figures in the world that mirror very closely to predictions. I don't know if they predict things that say that it's going to happen in the world. And it's a lot of political shit that has gone on in the country. So that's going to happen, like gender ideology should like this.

But it seems to be speeding up getting faster. Yeah, I don't see any backing off from either side as far as what this is why I tend to not get overly involved in this stuff. Because what I've one thing that I've learned from all this is that I'm not changing anybody's mind. People are people are dug in. All you can do is just sort of, you know, behaving away that you think is right, loving, not filled with hate.

“Part of the reason I went back to the church, honestly.”

I needed something to rise above the noise because I found myself starting to feel some of this same hatred. I guess the people that I disagree with and I was like, what am I doing? I was losing sleep over it. I was, you know, really, really angry and started, you know, what am I doing? I needed to get back and reconnect spiritually. And so I found, I started, I dropped my son off because of Catholic school. I would just drop him off and go sit in church for 10 minutes, just pray or just meditate.

Find my location somewhere I'll find a church, whether it's Catholic or pestering or Lutheran, I don't care. Long as God lives there I'll go. And I found that that's really sort of helped me sort of make sense of some of it and hopefully find some clarity in it all because I just needed something because I didn't want to be that woman in the street flipping me off, you know, just with this hatred and her eyes. I just like, I'm not going to be that person. I need to like figure out a way to, you know, find God again.

What did you start looking at that? I mean, I've never really, I mean, I go through phases where I'll be really connected spiritually in times that I'm not.

And I find that when I am connected spiritually, I'm a much better friend, father, husband, brother, just a better personal around where I'm connected spiritually. So when I'm not, you know, I can get a little squirrely, you know, I can start to lose track of what's important, you know, and this business can really take you down some dark roads. And so I needed to stay.

“And I think that's what the Catholic religion did for me was, you know, even though I don't agree with a lot of this stuff.”

I still find that it's really taught me right from wrong, gave me that backbone to be like, okay, this is it whenever I, whenever I, you know, go wayward one way or the other, it always kind of brought me back, you know, church, friends, family, you know, it's been, thank God I have a good group of friends, really good family. And was, was race Catholic, was race Christian.

where the religion says I have to do to what as long as it feels like it's, you know, about love, peace, harmony, things that keep my head clear of all the noise.

I grew up Catholic too. Are you still Catholic? Yes. I think so. I, but like you, I started kind of going around and I wanted, I mean, I fell out of, I was race Catholic, and then kind of fell out of it in the sealed teams and recently maybe with the last two, three years kind of,

re-found Christ, you know, and, and so I started going to all these non-denominational churches. Yeah, me too. And I really like them. Yeah.

“And, and you know, I think, I think a pretty good plaster for saying this, but I think one thing that the Catholic religion lacks on is the teachings of Jesus.”

Because I don't, grown up, I don't know shit about the teachings of Jesus or really who he was and I realize that when I was going to these non-denominational churches, I was like, these southern boys and girls over here are like, quote and scripture. And so I really started paying a lot of attention because I wanted to learn more about Christ in the life of Jesus and what it all means. And instead of just the, you know, the typical Catholic mass. And, uh, and then I started reading a lot about spiritual warfare and, uh, diabolical influence and stuff like that.

And that, I don't think anybody in Christianity matches the Catholic church when it comes to spiritual warfare. What it all means, how it works. And, um, so what do you mean by that spiritual warfare? Yeah, and how the, nobody can match the Catholic religion, does that mean it's a good thing or bad thing? I, I don't think it's a good thing or a bad thing. I think that.

Like, why is the Catholic religion better at spiritual warfare than the rest of them? Um, what is spiritual warfare? What is spiritual warfare? Spiritual, man, how do you describe?

I mean, basically spiritual warfare is, you know, the good and evil and the battle for your soul.

Oh, or your mind. Okay. Now I got for the world.

“I would agree with that then because that's what's kept me from really going off the deep end.”

Really is like taking that dark road down whatever path it was going to take. Spiritual warfare about me back to, you know, whether you agree with the Catholic, you know, dogmen, all the stuff around it. It does give you that sense of right and wrong. It talks about, I had this guy, father, Ripperger on.

And he's like the, the exorcist in North America. Okay. And um, he wrote this book called Diabolic Employment Society. I've been picking up and digging into, since I've interviewed him. And it talks about everything from, I mean, I don't know if you believe in possession

and exorcisms and all that kind of stuff. But, um, if he kind of talks about how evil demons, demonic influence kind of seeps into your life and how it gets in.

“And a lot of the ways it gets in is by, um, like, really just really bad.”

Shit that you're doing. Yeah. And um, so it's, if you get into it, it's pretty fascinating. I'm going to read that book. I'll send it to the episode.

Oh, I don't know. I'll go find that up. You can't even buy the book. Oh, really? That's the thing, yeah, really.

There's, he's got a couple, but he wrote it for, uh, he wrote it

for basically he wrote it for the Vatican as a guide, you know, to how this is, how it's happening.

And it's, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's fascinating. Dude. Okay. The table, you have a copy of that? I got a copy.

Well, I'll be very interested in that. Because yes, I do believe in that. I do believe there are, you know, dark forces at play. It too. And if you're not spiritually connected, you're really susceptible.

And, uh, you know, it's easy to become susceptible. Oh, yeah. You know, if you're not vigilant about, you know, staying spiritually connected. Yeah.

So we've got you into the longevity stuff. Well, I was, uh, I was taking testosterone replacement therapy for a few years before I ever started

But I was seeing how much it was actually helping me.

And, uh, my friend, Fabian Calvo brought me this idea to be part of this company. I was like, no, no, no, no, I can't tell people what I'm, you know, that's my dark little secret. Uh, but then I started thinking about that and I was like, of course I should do this. This is something I actually, I could easily shine a light on. It makes it okay because it helped me so much.

I mean, it's truly testosterone replacement has been huge for me. It's brought my levels, but I was low. So, you know, able to keep muscle on, able to, you know, do things that I could do in my 30s that I'm now 53 and can do. And then we got into the peptides, sort of learn a more and more about them and how much, uh, how much they can actually help.

“And I think that that was, that was the reason why is because it gave me a chance to sort of”

share some of the stuff that I'd learned, uh, even though I was keeping it quiet for so many years. We'll kind of peptides. I do, uh, I do, uh, I'm sorry, um, Tesla Moreland.

I do the Wolverine Stack, which is H, H, H, H, H, H, H, K, G, C, U,

T, B, 500, and K, P, V, which is great for joints and skin and hair, recovery, cell regeneration. Um, what else do I do, NAD and MOTC? What does that do? NAD is, is like, uh, NAD and MOTC, the help of the mitochond, I'm not going to probably, I'm probably going to put you this a little bit.

I'm learning, but it's really good about energy, skin, staying young looking, uh, the mitochondria and the energy and stuff like that is, is what it's, uh, supposed to be. Do you do any of this stuff? Yeah, I do TRT, I don't do peptides, but I'm getting ready to.

Yeah. And, uh, yeah, and then the NAD stuff. It works, man. It really does work. You know, and then there's the HRT.

“We started doing it for women too, which is, you know, we, we, we,”

we started just a men's company. And then I had so many females in my life-saint dude. You got to, like, we need help, too. And I, you know, started doing research on that and there's the HRT, which can literally prolong the youth of women.

It can, it can, it can stem the, the, the, the effects of paramenipause and menopause and bring your levels of progesterone and, and, uh, estrogen back up to what they were.

So women don't have to go through the same things that they always have, you know,

with, with menopause. So all the stuff is like, wait, are you saying it, like, skips menopause? Well, no, it just, it just delays the effects of it. And, and reduces, like, the hot flashes and the, uh,

uh, the, I don't know, I'm not, I have never gone through it because I'm not a female, but what, what, what, what, what, from what I've heard, like, if you can, if you can regulate your hormones,

“that's part of the reason why this menopause is such a bitch for women”

is because their, their hormones have, have fallen off. Like in men is testosterone. Women is, as estrogen and progesterone and testosterone as well. So you can really sort of regulate that stuff with this hormone therapy. And we have doc, we have a whole, and what makes this company so great is that we have

a whole team of doctors. So it's like a concierge service. So the FDA doesn't let you just go out and click, click, click, and have the stuff sent to you. They want you to be guided by a professional medical expert.

Uh, somebody with, you know, the ability to actually walk you through this and create a plan. And so we have a whole team of doctors. Um, so we're, I feel like we're doing it the right way. We're really able to help so many people.

Um, and the stuff works. I mean, it truly works. And so it's a really fun, it's been really, really fun, actually. For me, learning more and more about it because I have a real natural curiosity for wellness and longevity and trying to stay as, as healthy as I can for as long as I can.

I can for as long as I can, not just for my work but for my kids. You know, I've been 53 years old and I have a baby on the way. I need to be as strong as I can for her as long as I can. Congratulations on that. Thank you.

You got to have any more? Probably not. No. Yeah. How old are you?

43. Okay. Still a young man. I would love to, but I don't know if it's going to happen. Yeah.

You got two beautiful ones. That's, you know, that's the main reason is just because I wanted to be able to build something and help. And for myself personally, selfishly, I was trying to, you know, learn as much as I could to, you know, stay in the game for as long as I could.

You know, I'm not going out without a fight, man. I'm going to stay as young and strong and parallel for as long as I can. Right on. You guys, you guys have any, uh, you venture into anything new.

Well, I mean, there, yes, right now. I mean, there's just so much. There's, there's stuff that coming up on the, on the horizon that's just like unbelievable. Some of these things that are not approved yet, but they're about to be. Um, so for now, yes, hormone therapy for men and women,

testosterone for men, HRT for women. But there's an estrogen, progesterone testosterone.

And then all these amazing peptides.

Eventually it may be stem cells. Nice. Which is another thing that's going to be common. Incredibly beneficial. I mean, the science behind that is incredible, too.

I mean, I'm just like, beginning to learn about, like, how amazing that stuff can be. If done and, and, you know, administer properly. And, you know, thankfully with Dr. Lawrence and his team. We have just the best people in the world to help. Right on.

If you, if you looked at the, I'm just curious. If you looked at this plasma exchange stuff, I've heard a little bit about it. You know what I'm talking about?

“You talking about when they, they'd spin the blood in the PRP?”

No, no, they, it's almost like blood filtration. Have you seen any, uh, I don't know how much time we spend on social media or if you see any. Right now, like, this trend, there's all these people. They hold up these bags. I saw broken the bags in me.

Didn't Logan have a big one. Yeah, that's plasma exchange. So apparently it's like filtering all the spike proteins and all the shit out of your blood. Really. Um, like, maybe heavy metals and stuff.

And then darker the bags are the, the more toxins that it's pulled out. I don't mean to. Me, too. But, uh, maybe like a greenish.

Um, we've never seen that color before.

That's fucking red. But, uh, yeah, I don't know. That's something I've been looking into, uh, to do. So especially with all the exposure of all the fucked up places that've been throughout the world. Parasites is another one I want to look into.

Yeah. I've heard a lot about this stuff. I'm just, again, I don't, I don't, I'm no expert in any of this stuff. I'm just curious as anybody else, but I do have a natural sort of curiosity to learn more. Parasites are one of them that my mother was at.

My mother was at my mother's always kind of been on the forefront of this stuff. She was eating egg whites in the early 80s. We were so embarrassed. Like mom, you're asking to take your egg yolk. Like she's this girl.

She's been always sort of. And she just tell me about.

“Parasites and how you need to get checked for them.”

And I, you can get them sort of expelled from your butt.

I don't know. Is it a, is it a fat? I don't know. Feels like it could be real. Yeah.

I'm sure it's real. Yeah. I'm sure it's real. Well, where do people find the company? Who's it for?

What's that? Is it for everyone? It's for everyone. I mean, it's, I mean, we're finding in our data that people are doing it younger and younger as a preemptive sort of way to, to stay, to prevent, you know, some of these effects of aging that happen.

So people in the 30s are starting to use this stuff. But we, you know, we're meant for people, my age 40s, 50s, even 60s or 70s. These are, these are things that can be really beneficial. Gatlin.com. We'll, we'll set you up with one of our doctors who will put you through.

You know, a few of the steps that it takes to get involved. This is, you know, this is a big deal for people that are into. And it can be scary for people. So we want them to be as comfortable as possible. Make sure they get their levels checked.

Make sure you know where you're at.

“Just in general, you should know that anyway, I think, just get your levels checked.”

You'll find that you're probably not optimizing, as well as you could be. There's a lot of peptides you can be using. Your hormones can be leveled up to where there should be. So it's, it's a, it's a pretty easy process. It's telemedicine, but it's like telemedicine 2.0.

Because we make it real simple. Everything's delivered discreetly to your house. But you'll also have somebody there to help you. So you don't have some dude from the gym who compounds at the back seat of his car. You know, see the way from the way from the research and development stuff and China.

Telling you all of our stuff is 100% compounding the USA compounded in the USA with, you know, through our own five or three B pharmacies and API wholesalers. And we just, we know where the stuff is coming from and it's all like the best quality. Right on, and you said, "Gatlin.com." "Gatlin.com."

"GATLA." Right on, right on. We've got to have for you too, both of us. Oh, dude, thank you. Nice.

Thank you. Yes, sir. Well, they were wrapping up the interview, but I did. I just want to say that like a really grounded person seems like.

Thank you.

But I already knew that about you.

Well, so I just, you know, people who know you. How do you watch in the show? How do you say grounded? How do I say grade? Yeah.

“Honestly, I've got a really, really awesome group of friends.”

There's like 20 of us that every day we're on a thread.

And if you didn't know we were best friends, you might think we're worst enemies. Because there is no, there is no pulling any punches. These guys are ruthless, but also super loving. They don't let me get, you know, any higher than I need to be. They love me and they, you know, they got my back, but they're not.

They don't treat me any differently.

“I think that's one of the big part of it.”

Great family. Amazing wife. You know, not the code has been good. Good for you, man. Good for you, man.

Good for you, man. Good for you, man. Good for you, man. Good for you, man. It's good to hear.

Well, thanks for coming. I'm happy. I'm so much happy. [Music]

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