Josh Duhamel On Fame, Hormones, Fatherhood, Longevity, & Finding His Way Back

She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire and he's a serial entrepreneur, a very smart company. And now, Lauren Everett's in Michael Bostick are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for the major illness. Welcome to the Skinny Confidential, him and her, Ah-ba. All right, you're about to listen to an episode with Josh Dumal.

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Welcome back to another episode of the Skinny Confidential, him and her show. Today, we have Josh Dumal on the show, and this was a fun one, Lord, and I had a blast with them. Josh Dumal is an acclaimed actor, director, and producer known for his work and films, including Transformers, Shotgun Wedding, London Calling, and Netflix's ransom canyon. Beyond the screen, Josh is passionate about men's health and wellness.

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This is the Skinny Confidential, him and her. My modeling career was very short, but I knew that I wanted to get into this. Started auditioning for TV commercials, and Scott Sedida was my first coach who said, "You should take my normal class, so I did."

“And that's how I really sort of fell in love with him.”

So what was your first big break that you had? You were like, "I'm on to something." You know, for me in the beginning, it was just so, as a kid coming from North Dakota, it was terrified.

I'd never been around anything.

It'd never been in front of a camera, had people like you too looking at me, expecting me to say something interesting. And I was really intimidated. I wasn't comfortable, but then there was something that happened in an audition for this movie called, it was an adaptation of the picture of Doreen Gray.

It was a student film that we shot over in Bulgaria, but in the audition, he had to lose it, he had to lose it, and something came over me, and I just lost it in this audition. And I could see on our faces that, "Oh, my God," and I knew right there that I got the job, and it was that moment that I felt like I'd broken through, broken out of the fear, and the self doubt, and I think that was my first time I sort of felt like

I could do this for real.

I always knew that I could, if I could get over the fear, and the terror of being vulnerable

in front of people, and especially in front of a camera. Do you feel like this is something that individuals can learn, or do you feel like it's something you're just kind of instinctually know how to do it? Like Billy Bob Doreen was just talking about, he was like, "Listen, I just kind of like this is just what he was built to do," and he knows it.

When you see a script, can you just pick it up quickly and then jump into the character or is it take a lot of practice? I think there is a certain amount of, and I think it's about try, I think everybody has this interesting depth to them, it's a matter of accessing it, and if you could access that on camera, I think anybody can do it.

Learning the lines isn't the hard part, it's actually living freely and openly as if you're just doing it like you would at home, and that's the hardest part, it's just letting all that go, and just, just, and if you can do that, you could, I think anybody can do it, but it's a hard, that's the hardest part for me is just to sort of live openly and freely in whatever scene it is that you're doing without it feeling like you're acting.

It seems like a constant practice that you have to tap into. It's therapeutic for me, it's very cathartic, I love it, I love that I get to go play these characters that are, you know, if I tried some of the stuff in real life, I'd be in jail, what you get to, you get to, like, live out these crazy little experiences that are scripted for movie or TV, and every job is different, every scene is different, every day is different

“and I think that's what I love about it.”

I think it would be hard for, for a lot of people is getting out of yourself and like letting

that's really difficult because people have a guard up naturally all the time, especially

“these days, and being able to let go of that and something completely different, I think”

that would be the hardest thing. Yeah, I think that that goes back to what I said about just like trusting that it's okay. And for me, it was just like letting myself just look stupid in front of the, don't care what anybody thinks. And when I let go of that, you know, broke through, let that guard down about wall is

when I really started to feel like, in that's where I feel like it's cathartic because then you can just, I'll find you're just playing make believe, you know? So as a kid from North Dakota, when you start to break, and that kind of attention gets put on you. And especially like, at a time when, if you had that kind of attention like when you were

coming up, it was like, it was like a spit, it was turned on and it was like right away. You were in the heartthrob. Yeah, I was. Yeah.

Still are. Yes. But I am in full hair and makeup, wake up, we demand it. What is that like for you coming from your background and then all of a sudden being exposed to that and having that kind of profile?

Oh man, I'll never forget my first job.

Well, my second job, so my first job was like the picture during gray. But the second one was all my children in New York. That has some serious fan base. Oh, man. It was like a big deal.

My mom was a huge young and the rest is fan. You had a line of girls out the door. Let's be honest. Hey, it was, it was a whole new thing for me. Yes, it was a whole new world.

But it was, it was also terrifying. My first day, my first day was with. So my character was sort of a grifter, euro trash. My mom and I would, would con these people out of money and that's what we did. So I grew up sort of in that, that was my character, leather pants, turtleneck, mow hair

sweater and a big long leather duster. My hair was still sort of orange just blonde from the picture, Dorian Gray. We tried to dive back, but it was like this weird orange, so it was perfect euro trash.

And my first scene, I was terrified because all I could think about was, oh my god, I'm

going to be on TV. Everyone in that comment is going to be watching me. Oh my god. And I could just getting my breathing under control was enough. And my, my, my scene was with Elizabeth Banks, very talented director at actress.

Very sweet. We still, we still laugh every time we, we see each other. She was playing away, Triss, it was also her first job. And I was this euro trash, Leo DuPray, wandering into this restaurant. And I was sort of trying to get a free lunch offer, and I said, good morning Rosalie.

Breakfast is so good that I thought I'd come back for lunch.

“And you have no idea how hard it was for me to remember that line.”

That one line was like, morning Rosalie, lunch was so good. I thought I'd come back for breakfast, so good I thought I'd come back for lunch. Oh, yeah. Okay. Here we go.

And that was just like terrified that I was going to be on TV. So I couldn't tell you what line I said yesterday on whatever thing. But that line sticks in my head so hard because it was so terrified to say, because I knew I was going to be on TV. And so, you know, that was kind of the beginning.

So what happens after that comes out, all my children? Yeah, I mean, like, but I guess what I'm asking is one day you're a normal guy working in warehouse from North Dakota next day, like, you're very well known. Yeah. I mean, you know, for a lot of people we talk to and for us, and I think the new age, it's

a little bit more of like a slower, gradual thing that you use into. But I think for your generation and for that broke out, like you, it feels like it's almost like, maybe it doesn't feel this way to you, but it feels to us like instantaneous massive attention. You know, if I'm in my own head, it was instantaneous and it was this massive thing.

But in real life, it was kind of a slow burn for me too. I was on all my children for three years, and I guess I had a bit of a, of a bump when I went, when I left that after three years and went to do, when I did with that Hamilton

and Las Vegas, and I had like, but it was never like a rocket to start them from them.

You know, so it's always kind of been gradual.

“And I think those three years and all my children were a great boot camp, a great way to sort”

of understand media on a smaller scale and understand how we're how to hit my light, how to learn lines, how to do all these things that it wasn't like this giant, I wasn't this kid who was, you know, suddenly here, now I'm on transformers. You know, it was like, so I got to sort of make mistakes along the way that weren't too damaging.

You know, for me, as a kid, like you said from North Dakota, I was like, oh my god, I'm, how do I not screw this up? I imagine it's a, it's a big shift. Yeah, it was a huge shift and, and it was, it was, you know, I don't, do I ever get sure, but, you know, it was, I'm, it's the way I was able to make it, you know,

How do you manage all the attention from women that you had, you had a lot of attention

from women? It's, it can be a real pitfall.

“I know, that's what I, I want to hear both sides of it.”

We had John Stamos on, I asked him the same question, you, you, John Stamos was before you. I mean, the people house. Yeah, yeah. And then, I feel like you were like, kind of like that adjacent to John Stamos.

Was it? Yeah. Like, how do you manage? I know there's pitfalls of it. What are the pros and what are the cons?

Well, you know, it's, it's, it can be a seductive and intoxicating thing to get that kind of attention. But thankfully, I had, well, and I still have a very solid group of friends who keep my ass in check. I stayed very close to my wrist back in North Dakota.

Not going to say I didn't fall into that trap a few times. But, you know, it can be, it can be the end of you in this business. If you don't, if you don't have like a, like a North Star or like a moral compass in some ways, and I, and I did. And, you know, I was not perfect by any means, but it can, it can be, it can be the death

of your career. It really can.

“If you, if you start to believe all that, because the truth is, none of this is real.”

Right. It's just fucking fame, who cares? Because it can, again, this is why I'm thankful that it didn't happen so quickly, because I learned a real appreciation for it. I had a lot of work, like normal life, I didn't start to ask 27.

It can be something that can take you out if you don't. And that's not just, I'm not talking about just attention from girls. There's all kinds of other trappings that can take you out. So, well, it's interesting, well, there's a lot of things interesting, but I think one thing that we wanted to talk to you about is, there's a little bit of a similar path where, you

know, we're in an entertainment hub right now, which is obviously LA, and we're having this conversation there. And you, we're very much at the center of media and entertainment, but you chose to kind of move back to North Dakota and kind of give back to your roots.

And I wonder if that was a decision that you always knew you were going to make, or if

it was something that you got drawn to the further you got. No, I think that, you know, when I left North Dakota, I couldn't wait to leave. I was like, so ready to go, because I've gone, you know, all the way through high school, and then went to college in the same town that I grew up in. So, I couldn't wait to leave.

It was like, I'm ready. I was ready. I think they were ready, too. So, it's just been there for too long. And if you were to ask me, then no, I'm never going back.

Or if I do, I'm going to be 80.

“But then as I got older and got to really, you know, it's almost like you have to leave to”

really appreciate your roots. And it was that. And I fell in love with the state again. It's an amazing state, North Dakota. I don't know.

It's probably not that similar to Texas. It's not. It doesn't have, you know, the big cities and the beaches and all the things that Texas has. But the people feel like they're kind of the same.

The streets, salt to the earth, you can trust them 100%. And I think that that's really what I, what I, good to love, and, you know, and not a knock on LA, but you know, and there's a lot of great things about Los Angeles. But for me, it was like, and then I met a girl from there. My wife, Audra, who really loves her, she's very much a family girl, very much loves to

be home. She has a cab in a minute, so did not far from where we're at. So it was kind of perfect. And so we both have this, you know, she helped me fall back and love with it. And now we're residents of the state again.

And I love it there.

It's funny when we first moved to Texas.

I would, we were taking a walk in our neighborhood. And people were like, good morning. Hello. Yeah. Like, what do you want, buddy?

Yeah. Like, like, I was like, I like my guard. Like, guard is up from being out here. And I was like, why is this person? And then now I'm the guy in the neighborhood.

Okay. Like, yeah. Yeah. But it's, I think, again, like, there's a lot of great things about big cities. But it's, it's very much like people are on the move here.

They're going. And it's like you're trying to get something done. And I feel like people are living in those places. So that's what it feels like. It feels like they're more in the moment for sure.

And I'm, and I'm guilty of that too here. I am, when I'm here, I am working. Yeah. You know, I am chasing that carrot. I get it.

I say, Texas, I'm married to Texas, but New York and LA is my mistress. I suck it. I fuck it. And then I get fuck out. So I totally get what you're saying, like you just need to, like, get it out, get everything

you can get out of the city and then, like, it's you can leave. No, I was, I was at breakfast before this and some guys that live out here still, they're, I think they're, they're curious about places like Texas, like North Dakota, like, and they're asking me about it. And I said, you know, I like to live there and raise a family in those places and, like,

there's less distress. But it's, it might at times feel slow if we didn't kind of go to the biggest race. But, but I, if I had to choose one of the other where I would, you know, if I had to just

Yeah. Now with kids, right? Yeah. I think, like, again, the cities are great, but we can let our kids go outside and run around. Right.

You can trust that you, they, yeah. Exactly. That's the, it's a perfect way to put it because my son, my 12 year old son, he's, he's

never, we've never let him out to go play in the street, but because we don't trust

it. What might happen? You know, that might be my own, you know, neuroses, but in North Dakota, there's no fear of that. The kids are all on their bikes racing up and down the street, jumping from house to house.

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“I think too, it seems to some people that we've interviewed that are celebrities and I wonder”

what you think about this, when you get to a place in acting or celebrity where you feel like you've reached a really high peak, I think sometimes you look around and there's still feels like there's something missing and I noticed that those are the people like a demi more in a Bruce Willis who move out of Hollywood to sort of like figure out what that is.

I kind of felt that when I was living in LA, it's like I was we were podcasting or doing all the things and then you kind of look around and you sort of you want more than just that mountain. Does that make sense?

I think that it's a hard thing to, it's almost like that siren out in the ocean that

you know you hear it calling but you don't know it until you actually see it and feel it. And then, but then it's the same thing here, it's like your mistress that you want to

“suck in fuck, you need to go get that, you need to go get that too, it's like, not”

a video opening of the trailer, but you know it's nice to have the balance, I love coming back to LA, I love the restaurants, I love the weather, you know, I have a lot of friends here, I'm not going to dog on LA, but yes, there's a perfect example I was here, until I pick my last drop of my boy, I was in soccer and I was like, and the weather was perfect and we just got back from Fargo, which is not perfect right now, but I also

sat in an hour and half a traffic to get from one of the other, I'm like, this is why it's such a trade off.

Yeah, when we first moved to Austin, everyone's like, listen, traffic here is pretty bad.

You could get stuff for like 20 minutes, I'm done with 20 minutes. How did you meet your wife, Audra? We had a barbecue at my house, it was some of my friends from Hollywood, it was some of my old friends from back home, there were kids, there were old, it was just like a good old fashioned barbecue, and she and I had been in contact because I knew that she was

from North Dakota, she'd done, she'd done really, really well, and some was a miss USA, and I had no, it wasn't even inviting her because I wanted to date her because she was on for me to be honest, I wasn't looking for a call like, it's not, I'm not going to be that dude. So I invited her and she comes to the door, I'm like, holy shit, she's so beautiful, and

tall, and I was still like, no, no, and I was entertaining people, we haven't even talked to the barbecue where she was like, this dude has no interest in me, she left and, you know, with her friend at the thing is like, whatever, but I remember the little bit of interaction I did have, we talked and we did it whatever, but I was like, entertaining as a barbecue, I was thinking care of everybody, and I remember her taking care of these

kids that were at the party, making sure that they had enough gold fish or whatever was she was giving them, and I was like, that reminds me of home in the kind of girl that I want to really be with, you know, and I'd gone through a couple relationships with girls here in LA, and it was just wasn't the same, there's something really sort of wholesome about it, and I think that that's when I was like, hmm, maybe she's not too young.

“Like, let me run the math again, that's what I was talking about.”

Well, you know, I guess I am that dude, I don't know. Yeah, but now you guys are married, you're a two year old, right? Yeah, we have two year old. And how long have you been married for? Three years. What has been the other flight seven? Seven years. What is the difference between being, because you were married to Furggy before, which is a famous public marriage, to being married how you are now,

which seems very grounded and wholesome, what is the major differences? And by the way, Furggy is also very awesome, believe it or not. She's very much, especially since she has sort of stepped away from it all. She's very, she's a great mom, very kind, very non-confrontational thank God. So we have, you know, we have a good relationship, she and Audrey have a great relationship. It was just very different, you know, Furggy and I just,

you know, it's a different views. The world and that's okay, you know, but I have no regrets about that. We have a beautiful son, but they're just very different in a lot of ways. Also, also both very, really, really great women. They really are. What a nice way to talk about an ex. That's how you should talk about me in the future.

you marry for love, then you marry for money, then you marry for companionship. Looks like you got all three here. Yeah.

Listen, she had me a second and fuck it. So I was like, she married her, there you go. That's

an I knew. I was, it was a similar story. She wasn't playing with the children. She said that to me and I said, you know what, that reminds me of home. That's dark, that's dark. That's dark. I mean, what is your day-to-day look like when you are not working and you are being a dad in North Dakota? I mean, like anybody, really. Is it like, are you, like, out on the land? What is, so, okay, so I've got, we've got a smaller place in

Fargo. We're going to build there eventually. So cool. But we have a property in Minnesota, which is about an hour and a half from Fargo. We spent a lot of time at our cabin in the woods on the lake. I've had this for like 17 years now and you know, over the last. And I've really, we've really put a lot of work into developing it and so I've got started with one little cabin. It was just a little shit box up on the hill with no electricity,

no water. It was an old hunting cabin, infested with mice. It was, it was, it was just using outhouse for a little time. Oh, there's an outhouse. It was a whole thing. And then, and then I bought the property next to that, for $189,000, $26 acres, beautiful little cabin on the

water. It's amazing. And it's like my, it's my happy place, man. I just love it. There's so much.

And so at the two little cabins and I've since put electricity to water in both of them, and now they're these really cute little gas cabins, but we needed something big, you know, something to hold my tractor and my four wheelers and just say, you just get used to accumulate things over the years. And so we built, I was just going to build a place that had a huge garage but then I decided to make it a double thing to make a big, we just turned into a big cabin.

So now I've got that in the two little cabins and it's like my own little compound out in the woods is amazing. That's right. Go to the beach out there. Just, it's just, yeah, and you know what

“it is, it's great because to ask your question, Lauren, is that I think, for me, normal, they out there”

is just, I just work all day, just fixing things, taking care of kids. Okay, we need something needs to be fixed over here. Okay, I got to, I got to go run up and grab fire. Well, whatever it is, I'm just going. So the kids, it's a great way for them to see me and teach them things outside of the amenities that we're used to because it's really just about being in the moment figuring out what we got to do, because we're 40 miles from anything. There's no, there's a store

within 40 miles. We are out there. And so there's a lot, I've had to learn how to fix things and take care of things and also to ask how you, how did you learn? There's your dad to just have to. Just have to. You know, thankfully my father-in-law is very handy, my dad is pretty handy, but I wasn't, you know, I grew up in the city in Minor North Dakota playing hoops and

batting football and all that stuff, and I never really did much, but now I've become

“pre-adapted, fixing the basic things. You know what they say, the hottest thing is, and I think”

we should all make this a thing in 2026, they say the hottest thing for a guy to do to boost their testosterone is to chop wood. Have you heard this? Yeah, or an axe? Or go to Gatlin and get a shot and just put it in your butt. Get a shot from Gatlin and then go chop wood and that's it. You're gonna be, there's a lot of wood chopping out there. There really is. You know, I want to talk about what you're doing with Gatlin and just longevity in particular,

when did you get so interested in this space? I've always had a real curiosity about it, you know, just because maybe out of vanity in the beginning, just because I wanted to stay as youthful and athletic and viral as I could for as long as I could. But then it became more about being there, you know, it's about being there for my wife, for my kids who are much, who are very young, and to, and I kept the scene a secret for so long because I didn't want to tell

people that I was taking testosterone or peptides and these things because it was kind of my

“dirty little secret that I had some shame around and then I was like, and so my friend Fabian”

came to me and says, hey, we have this company that we're starting and they've been doing a lot of blocking it all the, all the FDA compliant. It's just a ton of stuff to build a company like this. And so I first thought I was like, no way, I'm not gonna be the face of that. But then I thought why not because it's only massively improved my life. It's kept me feeling great as I've gotten older as into my mid 40s, 50 and I'm 53. I feel better than I did in my 20s and 30s. I was like,

why don't I shine a light on this thing? Why don't I teach people or show guys that it's okay to, first of all, talk about it, get your levels tested and that was kind of the beginning of it.

out. How do we build this company and help as many people as we can? Yeah, there's like a,

“I think for a lot of guys, there's a taboo around like, oh, I might need these things because”

my natural function is, but the fact of the matter is like it's going to, what do they say? Like after 30 or 35, it starts to just drop out of, like there's a natural, younger and younger weird there. I'm not sure what the reason for that is. Well, because we have less, I mean, my knee jerk is that, you know, we have everything at our fingertips. We don't have to go chop wood like we did before, which improves our tears. No, it's killing tigers. We don't have,

we don't have the fear of, you know, bears coming to eat it. You know, it's good. It's got a pretty comfortable, and then you add in like the the apps and the swipe left or right or whatever that is. You're much so I know. You know, there's a lot of factors that I think maybe. Go milk the cow. Yeah, exactly. So I think that, you know, there might be a lot of, I don't know what the reason is, but I feel like there are ways to combat that now and the why not? I had a buddy of of mine,

who's my young, like young, not young, but young-ish guy, like not like under 40 still. And he is levels like really dropped. And we talk a lot about these things on the show. And he was using all the leaves like crazy cleaning supplies in his house consistently. He had like a batch of pads. So it was like a lot in there. He was getting cleaned a lot. And he went and switched everything got rid of like all the parabens, all those clicks, like switching out for more. He switched to last

water bottles. He was drinking. And just a lot of those practices. Like microplastics and all that stuff. But he was just like in his whole environment was with all of these like fragrances and toxins.

“And he switched all that and that did change. And then I think he also like went and after that went”

back to the specialist. But I think that like just our modern environment and other things were introduced. And ourselves are not doing things to further and protect our levels, right? Yeah, for women too. What is the Josh Stack from Gatlin? Like what is your stack of peptides that you like? So I do, I do NAD. I do the, I do the, I do the, I inject it with an insulin needle. Okay. I'm being telling you guys everything. Yeah, we love that. We're, we're supposed to

skinny content with it. So NAD, I do it for more than a testimonial compound, which is like a synthetic HCH and it promotes your own production of of human growth hormone. I do this thing called the Wolverines,

the Wolverine stack. And I'll tell you exactly what's in it. I can never remember because there's

like, I've heard about the Wolverine stack, I'm trying to do it. It's so good because,

“you know, I've always been into exercise and fitness and stuff and you're joined,”

especially when you get to be 50. And so athletes, you see these athletes that are getting Achilles or neat in their back in like, half the time that they work 10 years ago. It's because of a lot of this particular, can we get Michael signed up for Gatlin for his back? Michael has a back of my back. My back up pretty bad. I'm trying to, I've used peptides just for everyone to know. I've used peptides before I've done it for Merlin. I did one for sleep, one time, which is why the Wolverine is called,

but it was one of the best ones I've been. So the Wolverine stack is BPC 157, TB500, KPV and GHKU. And it's in one shot. It's in one shot you take every day. And it's, in my niece, for example, is just had a knee surgery. And one of my friends, Michael Chambers is about to have a surgeon's pick.

We have an amazing group of doctors that they live for this kind of stuff. This is what all they do.

And so all the most cutting-edge stuff is what we have in our 503B pharmacy and our wholesale API. But we have a group of like 15 doctors and nurse practitioners that only deal with this stuff. And so this particular shot has been great because it's not only great for your joints and healing of injuries, but your skin regeneration here. You got the most beautiful head of hair, thank you very much. Can you believe this hair? It's so good. It's so good, but no. But I can tell,

as I get all of it. I call it any monster. It's so good. But you know, I'm almost sporty now. And I can tell the things that I used to be able to do. It's just not the same. I train the whole life and lift it, but you know, you could just, you could start to feel like if you, so I'm thinking about this stuff a lot because I want to be ahead of it and I'm like, I want to be able to pick up my kids and run around. Are those the three ones that you do? Do anything else? And then I do testosterone

replacement therapy. But I do it in Kaiser Trek, which is the pill form, which bypasses the liver. You take a twice a day and it keeps your levels. It doesn't dip through the week and come

by that. You always kind of stay up here. Do you like that better than the pellet? I'm trying to convince

my dad. So the pellet, that's another thing. I don't know if you just so, Oprah just talked about

And oh, she's back. She felt like she's finally feeling better that she has in years and telling you, man, the stuff works. But the pellet, I don't know enough to know, but I do know that there are

other, it's such a slow release, right? Over time. Okay. Is that for people having? I've never done

it, but I won't open up for women, right? I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't

“suggest not from, I mean, for the women, I think, because it's such a lower dose, but I'm not”

listening. Anybody out there listening? I'm not a doctor. Don't listen to me. Talk to your doctor. But my opinion is that for men, if you, if you don't like the shot, you and these, this Kaiser Trek's really works. You know, even the shots are great, but it just depends on whether you're okay with like, you know, spiking during the week and then coming back down slowly during the week, whereas the Kaiser Trek's are always kind of... Are there any downfalls of all the

things that you just mentioned that you've seen or have you seen nothing? I have not. I mean,

some people talk about, you know, their hair thin, but I don't know if that's true if that's just a

wives tale, your natural production of sperm. That's about to down. But you can, there's things you can take to counter that, too, which are all perfectly healthy. I've had enough sperm. It's especially when she goes to New York or LA. I'd be curious to know, like, the version of you before you started these therapies, like, what was the instant changes you noticed? Well, mostly energy, mojo, feeling like I still got my fat. I feel like I still got my fastball. I really

do. But also, it's not just this stuff. It's also, you know, we don't want to just push this stuff. We also want to push, like, you know, if you're going to take a GLP one, you also need to to make sure that you're exercising, lifting weights, staying strong, not just getting skinny. So, we want people to be, like, fully healthy because it's, yes, we want them to look great, but they also, we also want them to feel great because if you're feeling great,

you're suddenly more engaged as a husband, as a father, as a brother, as a friend, you're better at work. Yeah. You know, it's just like, it's all the stuff is interconnected. Yeah, when we talk about it in the show, because people will sometimes say, "Oh, you're taking this thing, you're on this thing." I'm like, "No, not yet, but I promise I will be at some point

“and I need to figure out like when that starting point is." Because I think I also think a lot of”

young guys that get in the, you know, like, sometimes in your 20s, it gets maybe that's not the right time. But as I'm starting to get more middle-aged, I mean, okay, it's coming down. You know, we're finding that a lot of the young men and women are starting this stuff earlier, maybe not full-on, but just as like a precautionary, a preventative, because they don't want the, this generation is much more conscious of aging and, you know, all the time. Exactly. I think that's probably it.

They drink less, they don't drink. The other's less drinking. March less. They're like big pussies. I just can't even talk about what? When someone signs up for Galen, does one, does it have to be a boy or a guy? No. Well, no, because we have any day, we have GOP ones. This is for, you know, we, we've marketed this mostly four men in the beginning, but we're moving into, and we should talk about this,

maybe because it'd be great partners in this. But we definitely want to move into the female space too, because it's just, it's just, it's just as important for women as it is, man. Did they open, or just change some legislation and open up some things around home of therapy for women or wasn't I, again, reading something like, or don't know, or replacement, there's something what's going on. So, if someone wants to come, get a Wolverine peptide stock,

do they come to you guys, get their blood done, and everything, it's all included, so it's the process. So, the process is, you come to, you go to the site, it's very easy, you just, you click, there's a few questions you have to answer. Depending on what you're looking for, if you're looking for something more medical grade like a TRT, like a testosterone replacement, we, we, we, we, we, we will, we can send you our blood test kit, you send it, we do your thing, send it back,

and then we, we set you up with one of our doctors, and it's all telemedicine, it's all quick. GLP ones will have you talked to one of our doctors, if you want the peptides, most of this,

“I think the most important thing is you have to eat your blood test to get your levels checked”

first, so that we know where you're at, because from there we can really, we can really sort of

optimize, you know, where you want to be, and who, who are you are now, and where you want to go. So, that's the, really, the beginning is, is get you levels tested, find out where you're at, our doctors will then help you figure out what's the best option, it's very, very simple. What are the other things that you do on a day-to-day basis that are wellnessy? Like,

Yeah, try to be outside a lot, especially when I'm back at the cabin, not outside all day, but

“in Southern California, it's not a bad place to be outside. Right. So I do a green smoothie thing every”

day, that's one of the things I do. You got to tell us what's in the Josh smoothie. It's kale, spinach, apple, banana, pear, and water, can just blend it up in one of the, all your new trends. Yeah, okay. I learned this years ago from Kim Snyder, she's a nutritionist, I don't know if you guys know her, she's been a nutritionist. Oh, yeah, she's great. It's actually her recipe, she's started this because she was helping a couple of guys in a different movie where in Chicago,

and she made them from the inside. Oh my god, what is this? And for literally the last 10 years, I've been doing that. Not every day, but mostly we got a cold plunge at the house.

Oh, nice. I try to do that a lot. You know, but I, I don't, I'm not like a superhelf, not everything

a moderation, including moderation. Is your workout lifting? Yeah, hot yoga. And a lot of weights, a lot of weight training and some cardio stuff. Okay, we just talked to my, our trainer on the podcast, and she was saying, and this is her opinion, but she was saying that to tone your body as you age, you have to lift weight. Yes. It's non-negotiable. Yeah, everyone. Yep. It's true because it's just a bone density, the whole thing. You just have to stay strong. That's why,

listen, we have, we have the best products out there, but if you don't have a good, if you don't have good habits, if you don't really have a good regimen to follow it, you're not ever going to fully

“optimize it. And, you know, if you want to lose weight, great, you know, I think it's been”

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sleds and doing kettlebells and doing all the thing and running around and working and driving, but there was like there was a window of time that I saw with him, like if you don't catch that stuff, quick, him's on it, like it can go downhill quick. Yeah, and that's the truth. My dad the same way, you know, he didn't do enough and he's you can see it for sure. I think yoga's also a really good one. I'm just getting into stretching because I can tell now,

like I said, like I'm walking down knees and you're back and everything, because if I'm not doing that, I suddenly get back in the problem. So I have to do that in order to, you know, I go on Instagram and get sold on all the stretching tools. I got a whole mouth. It's just all the, I'm hoping my so eyes, I got the thing, the other thing you put your leg in. It just sort of take up space in the house. Yeah, absolutely. How do you think I'm so curious to know, especially because of your living

“situation? How do you think about the phone and social media and all of this for children?”

Because it seems like you've done a really good job of getting your kids outside. Wow, I'm not, I can do better. Thankfully, my wife and Max went for very conscious of it.

YouTube, these kids will just sit, it's like a vortex. She got to be very conscious of

at least monitor. You don't want to take it away completely because then you're just going to want it that much more. It's like you repress something too much. It manifests in some way later. So like I said, everything in moderation, including moderation, let them have it, but you really got a monitor because it will, it really affects them emotionally in the way that, in just the

“way they think and see the world. That's why it's important to get them off that and find other”

stuff for them to do. Before you go with our audiences listening and they are curious about peptides. What are the signs where you would point someone to peptides? Like low energy, what are the things? Well, it just depends on what you're looking for. If you want the NAD is great because it's great

for longevity. It's also great for your skin and it really improves your skin and your hair and

your cell regeneration. If you're looking to heal or for me, for me healing is that Wolverine stack that BPC 157H. What are they trying to in the previous administration get rid of the BPC 157H NADACO way? I don't remember for sure, but now it's like you can start taking it again. Yes, it's in the stars. I know it's in the stars. I'm going to get some of that because I love that stuff. And also the I put more than Tesla more than it for muscle. You know, for me,

because like you're dead, as you get old, there's harder to keep that muscle on. So that and that testosterone is what really helps me stay strong, keep the muscle on. So if someone feels tired or they want to lose weight, there's all different kinds of peptides for different things. Yeah, and we got the doctors to help them point them right there. It's to be honest with you, it sounds like it's what Gatlin's done is made it a really seamless process for people to just

“get on the right stack of peptides without all like confusion. Yeah. And I think that's really what”

we want to do is we want this to feel like a fully white glove, concierge experience. We're not just pushing buttons and something comes and you're kind of just wondering things in the dark. Yeah, so you know, it's about it's about we really care about the overall wellness. What's going on with transformers coming back? I don't know. You know, I posted a picture the other day and I have somebody helping with my with my social media and terrible at it. And I posted some of my friend

etchy, former neighbor seal now, uh, Santa Monica Fire Department sent me a photo of us back in the day, just me, Megan, uh, Shia, John Voight, and John Tuturo. And I posted it and it was like one of my biggest posts. Just going nuts, people are like speculating is it going to happen again? Do you know we're talking about transformers? Are you excited? I know that Josh was in transformers, but I have not transformers. Don't worry, we'll go back and watch all of the movies together. You guys go

outside of it. You got it. But what do you have boys or girls? I have two boys in a girl. I didn't know what I have to watch. Yeah, they're going to watch it probably. Put little boys love that stuff. Is your your kids obsessed that you did that? No, my kid doesn't care. He wants me. He's more interested in basketball and soccer players. He doesn't I try to jump. He watched this. I'm slow. My three and a half year old son, I got him going into the ninja turtles. I don't know. I'm going to get him into

the transformers. Is there going to be another transformers? I don't know. I haven't heard. I would you. I just posted. Would you be excited about it if the band got back together? I was like, I love working with Michael Bay and that whole team. It was just it was so much fun. I mean, talk about a massive production. I mean, I remember just sitting there going to holy crap. That was by far the biggest thing I'd ever been on. So many of them are there now six. But like

the original was three. We did five. Yeah, I did all of them except the fourth one. And now they've done another version of it. I don't really. Yeah, I got confused because it's gone. It's gone tangents. There's like prequel movies. Yeah, but don't worry, learn all the things. Yeah, I'm going to make transformer fire go through. Yeah, I mean kids grow up boys transformers. They set the toys. It's crazy. When once a one's technology got to a point where you could actually like do it, the way you guys did it

without looking weird, it was cool. You know, can I tell a story of the quick about the first

one? First, when I was I was actually meeting at Michael Bay's, was it Bay films or platinum doons or something with Brad Fuller and Andrew former as producers. And they were having me over for a meeting to talk about this movie called The Hitcher. This is back in like two thousand five or six or earlier four, maybe. And Michael pops his head in and he says, hey, Michael Bay, I was like,

“I don't who you are. And he goes, I said me chair, I like all, you should come over and check”

out what we're doing over here. We're as like what is he goes, we're doing the remake of Transformers. I was like, oh, that sounds like a terrible idea. I didn't say that to him, but I was thinking I was like, if that's like the cheesy cartoon from the 80s, which is cool again, but back when

and he shows me the artwork and how they'd reimagine this whole thing. And I was like, okay, now I get it. And you know, if you look at like the cartoon from the 80s, which is pretty cool, but then what they did with it was just a testament to the huge imagination that some of these some of these creatives have in this town. Yeah, they, I, you'll see, it's, it is, it is,

“that you're like, like, like, I think you're like, it's not about the robots as much as it is about a boy”

and it's first love in his first car. And it's a pretty iconic cast if you think about it, it's you, it's Shalababa, it's magnifying. It was like, and it was a lot of like, it's Megan Fox and Shaila, the love. Yeah,

yeah, they're, they're in love. Well, he's like the kid who would never get her. Okay.

And then he, yeah, but he gets her. Yeah. And it's really about a boy in his first car, too. It's really, it's, it's, it's, I will watch it with my boys. Yes, you said he sexed the oldest now. No, that's my daughter. Oh, three and a half. Yeah. Okay. Give it a couple of years. Okay. Okay. All right. That's my biggest frustration as a father of a young guy. I'm like, I got to show you a lot of shit, but yeah, there's

“a lot of things I got, I'm like, we're going to turn on heat tonight, but that's like, geez, I walk in”

they're watching like, what do you guys watching the other day? No, they were getting a kid. I have to show him, go on, you know what I mean? Do you guys like the shining? Yeah, exactly. I'm like a big Jack Nicholson. What are you showing him the other day? My daughter and they, they were watching the Lord of the Rings. But I have to be careful of what I show them. Yeah, that's kind of scared you some of that for that age, but they like, die laughing about smego and go, oh, really? Because they're like, they don't get

that he's like a skits or panic, but I pull yeah, that could gone crazy. Yeah, just see him in like two person. They're like, oh my god, he doesn't like the elf bread. I'm like, oh my god, he's got a lot of columns at that. He's a full junkie. You know what, gave us a code, which is so nice. You can go to

gattland.com and use code TSC 15 and you guys get 15% off your first purchase. I'm going to sign my

data to get these testosterone pills daddy, if you're listening. I'm calling in for it. We're not going to do the cream. You're not responsible enough for the day that Wolverine stuck. And where can everyone find you and say hello and follow what you're doing? Well, I'm on Instagram at Josh to Mel. I'm on Twitter or not Twitter at Facebook. I don't even know the handles for those. I should probably go link them out. I did miss something. I didn't see this line. You were an extra in Christina Aguilera as a

genie in a bottle. I was. I really was. That's actually amazing. Yeah, I auditioned for the lead, but I ended up getting, I was like one of the lead's friends. It was like this group of guys who crash your slumber party. And I was one of the guys who, you know, crashed the slumber part. But I

“got to meet Christina. I remember I was odd days. I was one of my early days in Los Angeles auditioning.”

And I went to audition for the Christina. It was before she was Christina. She was like this new hot young thing. And I had no idea. And there we go. That was what my first jobs actually in Los Angeles.

You might have to post a TBT to that moment. Right. I should. But you know what the problem is? You

can barely see me. It's like, there I was. And that's it. I know you could say it. And we're at some Canyon season two. Yeah, we can finish just finished two days ago. People are like that show. It's been good. You know, it's one of those shows that it's just, it's like comfort food. It's easy to watch. It's it's a beautiful, great actors really well written. April Blair does a great job, you know, running that show. It's, it's, it's been a really fun job. I got to say it. And it

looks like you get to spend some time in some great places to film yet. You're busy. Yep. Chopin. Thank God. Ransom Canyon, Gatlin. You're busy. Josh, it was so nice to meet you guys. I mean, thank you for doing this. Yeah, thank you for having me. I'm back in time.