Kyle Richards On The Truth About Her Life, Family, & What You Don't See On RHOBH

"The Bostics are interviewing Kyle Richards. What a icon. Ah! You'll love this episode." "Actress, television personality, entrepreneur, mother of four. She is a household name. She is an original cast member of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. As we know, Emma, Housewives, Conestor, and Kyle Richards exceeded my expectations." "We are going to talk about living authentically, motherhood, new ventures, raising strong daughters, reality TV secrets, and family life." "So let's get into it. Kyle Richards, welcome to the Bostics."

"Tell me the separations of the children again." "Okay, well, I had my first baby, Ferra, at 19 years old. I was a mommy at 19." "That's crazy." "Then I was in my 20s with the next one, and then I was 30 with the next one, and then almost 40 with the last one." "And you wish you squeeze two more in?" "Yes, I do. I wish I'd had more in between, but Sophia was so difficult."

“"Well, she was. Well, Ferra, first of all, was so young, and then I had to wait and, you know, I got divorced and then I got remarried. So I had a window there where, you know, obviously that's why there's that gap."”

"But yeah, I wish I had more in between, but Sophia was challenging. I thought, okay, I guess I'm done. And then they, you know, they get older and they go to school, and you're like, I can do this again." "And I'm someone who can handle a lot at once. I had to have the kids and the dogs and like a lot like happy chaos going, I could do well with that." "So I really enjoy that, and I liked all of it. The pregnancy and everything." "You're going to be such a good grandma when they all have kids."

"Okay, I know." "I can see them just leaving all the kids at your house." "Oh, I'm so scared that they're going to be like me because I never let anybody watch my kids or touch my kids."

"And I'm so worried that they're going to be like me." "Yeah, that's like us." "No, they went everywhere with me. I never had a nanny. I never had someone to drop my kids to school." "Wow." "So when I see, and by the way, that's not just anybody who does do that."

"Now, you know, people are working, they're working well." "Yeah, get all that." "But like, I was honestly, I was just too OCD and too afraid. My anxiety didn't allow me to have anyone help me." "But I'm so scared that they're going to be like that and not let me take the baby." "They will."

"They will." "I know."

“"Well, I think because you're so hands-on and they know you can handle it."”

"Then they'll be more inclined to do it." "If I leave my kids and my dad, I think he will forget that they're even there." "That's me too." "I know he will forget." "I'm already worried about how they're going to be as moms, even though I know they're going to be amazing moms."

"But I used to go into the park with my kids." "I loved it and you know, I'm actually an introvert so for me to go into the park with my baby alone." "You know, there's a two of us on a blanket and bring like a picnic and toys and talk." "I wasn't looking at social media." "Yeah."

"I was only playing with my children and like having that one on one time with them." "And it was such a beautiful time." "I feel like that they really, you know, affected who they became as, you know, children and adults." "And now I'm looking at these people and they're like the stroller is closed all the way." "They don't even realize the blankets covered in baby space."

"They're scrolling, looking at Instagram, they're wheeling those to the stroller." "They attention, like you can do to talk to your child and like teach your child and like, you know, communicate with them." "I'm screaming, get the EMF away from the baby's head." "The baby's skull is way thinner than a human skull. You cannot put the phone by the baby's head." "I can't go down this rabbit hole with you again."

"Just say it for the baby." "I can't go down this rabbit hole with you again."

“"When I'm with my kids to get off my phone, I think it's important."”

"It's really important." "I agree with that."

"But back to what you said about the baby weight. You will never look back and think, "Oh, my God."

"I mean, when I look back, I think I can't believe I was insecure about that. It's so stupid." "I see these women and they have like some extra weight on them from having a baby." "And they look so beautiful." "Why do you don't feel beautiful?" "I don't feel beautiful."

"I don't feel beautiful." "It's a 60 pounds on me." "You don't." "You don't." "But when you look back when they think, why did I feel like that?"

"Maybe." "Listen." "I know you feel like this in the moment, but I'm just telling you." "And you're so gorgeous."

"I always tell my kids and myself too that when I feel insecure about being in a bathing suit or something."

"One day, we're going to wish we look like this." "You're right." "You're in a great advice." "Okay." "So I have been a fan of you pre-housewives."

"Thank you for that." "Yes." "There's a whole career." "That happened." "Little house on the prairie."

"I thought you'd be serious." "Okay." "And also, I just finished Melissa Gilbert's book." "And then I think she actually wrote about working with you." "I want to say she did."

"Yeah, I'm sure because I started that series when I was five years old." "Wow." "And then you also, where I saw you, this is so random." "I remember seeing you grown up on an E true Hollywood special for Paris." "And I remember looking at you and being like, she's so beautiful."

"And I kind of followed you." "I don't know how." "And then you appeared on housewives." "And I was so excited."

"And it was weird because, you know, like you said, I started out as a child actor." "Yeah." "I'm little."

“"I mean, my first TV series I was a five."”

"But I'd already been working before that, even." "So I was like three and four." "And then I went on to do movies from there." "You know, my first movie was at five years old." "And I did, like, scary movies Halloween when I was seven."

"I mean, I started like, you know." "Did you know that?" "I did. You know, she's a little girl."

"I didn't realize that, but I'm sipping the movie a million times."

"And now we've got to go back and look at that." "And even him was in the witch mountain. This gave the witch mountain." "Yeah." "Turned witch mountain."

"So I done that my whole life." "And, you know, that wasn't my career." "And I feel like some people maybe." "Some people, a lot of people do realize that, but some people don't realize that, too." "Wait, why am I saying this?

Why are we going to?" "We're just talking about how to play housewives." "And also, another thing I find so interesting about you is your mother was such a strong force. It seems like she was."

"She seems like she had a real personality." "She was really strong, really tough." "The areas, Irish, I mean, fire across the board." Then she, when I look back now, she was a single mom. You know, she, she, my father were separated when I was like three years old, something.

And she had a lot of pressure on her with her daughters. So, you know, she had to be tough and she didn't want us to ever, you know, be scared and she wants to be independent. And so she was trying to be a good role model to us and doing that. She was extra extra tough, which I don't know if it really helped.

"You guys all have this funny personality. Is that from her? Like, my mom was really funny." "Okay." "You sat on the show that Kathy was like, would set up a store.

You have to tell this story." So when we were little, Kathy was the oldest. So when she was like, say, 15, Kim was 10, I was five. And my mom would like Kim and I have our unemployment checks. When we were one of our shows, Ron, hiatus.

And we would go and get our little unemployment checks.

“When I think back to that, it's really weird.”

I remember the man at the candy stand at that unemployment moment. So, Kathy knew that we would have cash and Kathy was like,

"I always wanted to buy things and spend money."

So, she would set up a store in the house and she would go on the house and my mom collected like, you know, like, "Bok, Ron, I leave all these old things." That we were not allowed to touch. And she would say, "You know, there's a sale starting, ten minutes." And Kim would go and she had lifted up the corner of the carpet

and hit her money under the carpet. And it was lined up and Kim would like, "Wash it and iron it." "Oh, no, that's not good." But, so she would get the money and then we'd go to the sale. And it's fake sale.

We would buy all these things. It was so excited. We would go to buy and keep. And then my mom would of course would come in and scream, "Who took all this on the living room and take it all back?"

But, but then Kathy had already spent all the money. So she actually took the money from you and we're gonna spend it on the places. Oh, yes. This is like these are big personalities for kids to have to be around your mom, instead of big personality.

It's a very big personality. And then Kim and I had a car washing business. Okay. That even though we weren't TV series, we didn't think about that at the time.

We're like rolling up these people's homes. Like, "Do you want to wash your car for $5?" They're like, "Are you the girl?" Yeah, but we weren't thinking about that because we didn't think about, "You know, we just thought we were like, you know, we just wanted to be normal people."

And we would wash their cars and leave the soap on and get in trouble with the neighbors. So did your mother push you into acting? Or did you, was that a person of your own? No, my mom actually did, and I'm actually really grateful she did. Because my mom studied the academy of dramatic arts in New York.

Okay. And then she was also a very young mom. And then, you know, she was wheeling Kathy in a stroller through New York City. That's where they all are from. And people were stopping around the street.

She's so beautiful. She's so beautiful. She should be modeling. So my mom put Kathy in modeling and became commercials. And then Kim came along. And then it was the same with Kim. And then Kim did like a carpet commercial crawling on the carpet six months old. Wow. So my mom was kind of living by scarcity through her kids.

And moved everyone to Hollywood. She was like the original Chris Jenner. Yeah, literally. And Chris and my mom were very close, actually. Oh, I didn't know that.

And then I was born, you know, in LA. And my mom was like, "Well, Kyle's the shy one. And I don't want her to be left out." Sisters are, you know, on these TV shows. This is Kathy was also acting.

So did it push you out of your comfort zone to not be shy? She and my mom was two things. It was she didn't want me to be left out because my sisters were working like that. And because I was shy, she thought it would help me overcome my shyness. But I thought every audition was a doctor's office.

So I would have a panic attack on top of being shy. Oh, my gosh. And I'm not really sure why.

I think they had a white jacket on the first one or something.

I didn't like totally die. You like remember it being feeling like a doctor's office. When you got on E for that special, how did housewives approach you from that? Oh, right.

“That's how that question started this whole thing.”

Yeah. So that's the ADHD runs in my family coming up. He gets it. Oh, she's the self diagnosed. She's going.

So they asked me to do that interview. And then it became like that, you know, somehow became the spokesperson for our family. Because Kathy felt uncomfortable to talk.

I don't know. I don't know.

I just said, then I ended up in that role.

And then I did that. E to Hollywood story about Paris and Nikki actually. And then someone saw it casting person from the real house. It was a Beverly Hills. And they reached out.

And I was like, I don't want to do that. And I had taken some time off because Porsche was just born. That's right. She had just been born. Just been born.

“So what makes you decide to pull the trigger on real housewives?”

Do you watch the OC one? Well, I started watching because it was on hold because they kept saying we don't have a green light yet. And in the meantime, do you have any friends and I'm like, I'm like, push, you know, putting them together like a little group helping them. And like, while I was waiting to hear if we got green light, because they didn't think if you have OC, why do you need Beverly Hills?

And I was like, well, if you have New York, why do you need New Jersey?

Hello. Right. It's a big difference here. So I started watching some of the shows. But I was like, oh, that's different from them.

I wouldn't be fighting with anybody. I'm just going to be home with my kids. And playing and having fun. And my kids are so cute. Who wouldn't want to see my kids?

I don't know what I was getting myself into. If you did know what you were getting yourself into, like, say you now is giving you advice then. What would you say? I would still have done it. You are.

Yes. I mean, there's been times, of course, I would probably give you a different answer. But sitting here today. Yes. I mean, I would, I would do it again.

So even though through all the challenges and all the ups and downs and all the fights, if you could, you still just, there's something about it that you just love. I mean, I wouldn't say there's something about it that I just love. I appreciate and I acknowledge the things that it has done for me. Yeah.

It's opened a lot of doors, you know, for me, you know, for producing. I just started my production company. House of 18. And, you know, that was how I was able to produce American woman. And I have two shows and development right now.

And two others that are about to go into development. So that all happened because the house was. And people literally would say, oh, you know, they wanted me because they're a fan. And then I meet them and tell them stories and like, oh, we want to make that show. And I was like, oh, this is how I'm going to do this.

I can come up with my ideas and like sell a show. If they want to meet and talk and, you know, because our fan, then I'm going to turn this into something else. Because I don't want to be doing this forever.

“And that's what I love to do is to create.”

You know, I've talked to you a lot of people off air because we have similar makeup, hair. Just in Korean, I mean, and Chris right here. Yes. That's why we look at clones today. I know. I can't tell you how to see makeup in here.

Yes, but I talked to a lot of them and they just say the nicest things about you. And they said, I've heard this from multiple people that when you go to Bravo Khan, you are like the Oprah. You're like the most famous housewife out of everyone. And I've heard this not just from them from multiple people that people go crazy. What is it? I mean, I know what my own opinion, but what do you think it is that makes people go so wild for you.

Like you're like this rock star. I mean, it is so strange. I have to say going to see you like that. But I think, well, first of all, I'm the longest running consecutive running housewife in the history of the whole franchise of all across the board. Okay, so I've been there the longest.

And then I've never left.

And I've never been put on pause or fire. So 15 straight, no break, no pause. I've never called and said, I've never canceled an interview. I've never not shown up last season. The season I walked off in the middle of filming.

And it was like, goodbye, but other than that, that was my, you know. I think, honestly, you know, a lot of comedians who like their stick is to make on of us an impersonate us. It will always say to me, you're so difficult to do because you're actually a real person. And, you know, I think a lot of, I mean, not just, you know, shading anybody, which is because what I'm about to say may sound like a shave, it's also what makes them great TV. But there's like the caricatures.

They're like, the other characters, they really are.

“This is the headline of this, that's like, you know, that's what it's called.”

Every housewife, a cartoon character. Yeah, that's what I happen. You know, of course, that's what's going to happen. But a lot of these people I'm saying are like characters, I adore. But, you know, like I said, it makes great TV.

But I am actually in spite of doing what I do. A very normal real person. Yeah, and I think I don't know. Maybe that's why I have no idea. Well, it seems like, I mean, the only way you've probably been able to sustain that long and that consistently is by being yourself.

We talk about it even in the context of this show because we've done it for a long time. It's like, it's, it's a lot easier to just show and just be who you are and just talk as opposed to trying to like curate a person or experience. Like, I think the people that do that, it starts to fall apart over time. And I see that all the time. Yeah, I'm sure.

And when I see that, I'm just like, oh, God, I can't, you know, I mean, I'm willing to make mistakes. And, you know, because that's part of me in that, it's life. You know, if I'm being real, I'm going to have great moments.

But when I see someone coming in with an agenda. Yeah. And the persona they want to project. And I mean, I just see right through that. It is painful for me to sit through.

You know, I can tell when you find it painful. You know, as of your, I can tell. I can tell when you can't. As of your, because I feel like I know you.

“And I think that as a viewer, the reason I'm a housewife practitioner is because I think people see themselves in you.”

And what I mean by that is like, we've all had drama with our sister. We've all had stuff with our significant other. You're a mother. You're, it's very easy for me to pull moments throughout all the seasons. You've done where I can relate to it.

Right. That's what I think it is. I think it's name relatable. Yes, I think people, I do hear that a lot. Yeah.

I don't know. I think that that probably has a lot to do with it. And I think when Beverly Hills first started, they thought this is going to be the most fake. Bony of all the franchise. And all of a sudden, they're like, wow, these are real people with actual real problems.

I mean, season one, it was, you know, it was stuff with my sister and dealing with her alcoholism and all that. That was, you know, we were trying to keep under wraps. And then it was Camille with her divorce. And then Taylor was going to, and, you know, people expected us to be fake. And all of a sudden, like, oh, these are actually real people.

Right. But since then, you know, I watched people come in pretending to do certain businesses. And try just, just the facade, I can't. And I'm not going to be mean, contrary to what people may like to say.

You know, I'm not, I'm not, I mean, person I will never have below the belt.

The things that I could say that go, or go into my mind sometime.

“So I'm sure people wish I would say, but I'm not there to hurt anybody or run their businesses.”

Or, you know, their marriages or anything like that. But I'm like, give me a break. But I will have to call you out of here. We can see it on your face. You could say that you could say what you were thinking here on the show.

Nobody will pick it up. All you have to do is watch the show. You could see it. If you could see it on your face that you're like, oh, my God. I can see it. I, yeah, I just can't. I just can't.

I mean, sometimes it is a laugh. I'm like, you, I mean, just, I don't know. They're just coming on there too. It's different now. These people coming on to start a business.

You know, and I was there just showing, I was just like, this is my life. I wasn't, they're selling anything. I'm not plugging anything. I'm just like living. And then people come in and like, oh, you know,

they've watched all these shows and their fans at the show. Right. It makes them interact. I couldn't do it.

I could never do household life because I know you've seen it.

Like, what's the person you know it? What is the percentage you think of people who come on with the intention to like build a platform or business that actually have success. First, the ones that kind of come and just like crash and burn and fizzle out by doing that.

The percentage I'm going to say, Well, the crash and burn is probably not that high. I'm going to go with 30%. But the 70% of their businesses don't necessarily do always do well. There's a total right away.

If it's going to be a crash and burn. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, because I think if you're your sole intention is to just like, extract that kind of value.

Well, we'll also not providing good stable. Tell it. You will never last if you're not being yourself. Yeah. I think it's like back then.

You saw her build the business. Exactly.

“That's why I think everyone wants to like build like something like”

she's done. But you watched her build the business in front of you. And you watched her struggles. So you were invested as an audience. Real question is how many of the husbands come through unscathed.

Well, I can tell you. I inadvertently. I was not trying to, you know, like, for what I do as an act or whatever. There was nothing I could really promote. Because the beginning, the show was so different.

I'm getting to the husband part. Sorry with ADHD. No, no, go ahead. That, you know, we weren't supposed to acknowledge. We were just like housewives.

I wasn't. They didn't really want me to talk about the fact that was an actor. And you know, so it was like weird. But so I felt like, you know, I can't promote that. But, you know, we were starting the agency.

And they saw the stroke, and the reason it became a storyline is because of the situation that my family and the, you know, what it caused and created.

Otherwise, it would never probably even been covered.

So, I mean, it's not lost. I mean, that that, you know, when we started the agency, it was one office on South Beverly Drive with five agents and Phara and Marie-Ceau were two of those. I didn't know that. Yes.

And now there's over 150 offices all over the world. You're up everywhere. And, you know, that the brand recognition is huge. So, there's, you know, I did not know that. Yeah.

So, that's like a silent killer assassin. When Lisa's been on here, and we talk, I mean, like the size and scale, what he's accomplish is pretty phenomenal. Mm-hmm. There's always a woman, though, behind the mayors.

Right. I mean, we'll say that she knows that too, which is nice too. Because he does acknowledge that. Definitely. Well, it's the next thing.

No, when he came on here, too, he acknowledged that and said that it was basically you guys doing it together. Well, it started, we were, you know, we had no money. And we didn't have a help or anything like I said. So, we just, he came home one day.

I don't know if he told us. I think he talked, he does talk about this in his book.

He was in the clothing business. And he had lost his job. And I think it's hell he had been crying. And it just crushed me. And it was right before Christmas.

And he had no money. And I was like, we needed money to buy Christmas presents for our kids. And, you know, the baby's elected was six months old. And Phara was seven. So, I said, why don't we go and, you know, hire a babysitter once a week.

And we'll go get our real estate license together. And that's what we did. We went to Santa Monica College and got our real estate license together.

“And it was the best thing that ever happened in being fired that day.”

And that's how this was. And then I would call him, like, in this two-bedroom condo with now three kids. And I'd be like, where are you? And he'd say, I'm at the golf course because there's like nothing going on. It's fine, something.

I was a double. I'd be like, I am not going to live in a two-bedroom apartment for the rest of my life. But three kids. I mean, Sophia wasn't our room and a bassinet. And he's like, there was nothing going on. I'm like, I don't care. Find something.

And I was like, I need a house. I need to get out of here. So, yeah, you know, we have regular normal struggles, I think. What was the turning point where you guys started to see momentum with the agency, where he was not on the golf course?

Well, I mean, by the way, he turned that around real quick. He was a kid at this point. He was 25, I'm talking about. Wow. So, yeah, it's 25 years old. So, he quickly became the number one agent at Kathy,

my sister at Kathy, my brother-in-law, Rick's real estate company. He became number one. And he would win, you know, number one every year at that holiday party. He would win the trip, watch the whatever everything.

“And, you know, that's how it all started.”

And when does he come to you and say, I want to open my own brokerage? Is it a brokerage? Is that the right word? I think so. I don't know.

I don't know. If I just own it, I don't know what it is. What did he say? I don't know.

So, well, it was first we wanted to be partners with, you know, Kathy and Rick.

They, you know, I shouldn't say they, but like, they didn't work out. Let's just say, that's where the whole issue started. But we wanted to be partners. And I should say, he, because even though I'm obviously part owner, because it's my, you know, it's our company together.

I very much like he runs that whole show. So, he wanted to be partner with Rick and it didn't end up working out. So, then he said, I can't work for someone forever. You know, and obviously we had our own kids. And we didn't want to be under somebody for the rest of our lives.

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“When you guys launched that how quickly did it start to become this huge thing?”

Like what are we not seeing? That's true. I mean, I feel like they did show over these years. I think I don't really remember it now. It's been so long.

But it was like, you know, I don't even remember what the second office was.

But the company didn't bigger and the bigger space. I clearly we can't stay in this little space on South Beverly Drive. Then we needed a bigger space and then, oh, you know, now we need more and more and then people come in and come in and come in and come in and come in. And then, you know, honestly with the best agents there was.

And town coming and then with the recognition from the show, like more people wanted to join and became like, and it is created this culture than the agency where it was like the cool spot to work and be. Is that how we met Ferra? Because you know, Ferra's, she helped us with Melissa.

Get a touch when we moved to Texas. But then she sold a condo first. Is that how we met Ferra? I met Ferra because Ferra reached out to me on Instagram and said she loved my blog. And I was like, that's a long time ago.

That was a long time ago. And then I Ferra and I went to Dan Tannas and had the Nikki Hilton salad, which is so funny. So funny. And I told her I was like, your mom needs to get on at the time.

I was like, tell your mom to get on reward style. Because I would see your outfits on Beverly Hills. And then I would see other people monetizing off your outfits. Yeah. So like I would see.

And I would say, what about this by the way, I got to tell you off air. I would see like other sites putting like your sweater that you're wearing. And all your stuff, your iPads, all the things. And I was like buying your iPads. And then like, but you wouldn't get the commission.

And I would repost those people's stories for them. And I was like, I'm not making anything else. It's like 20,000 clicks. They're making like, no. Okay.

So I was like, your mom has to get on reward style. Anyways, that's kind of how we started becoming friends. And then it just, we've just been friends.

“Because it was, I think in the earlier days of the agency.”

And it was doing, it had a footprint and it was doing well. But like, not nearly what it's doing now. And it was like her and a few other people that we know of here locally. But it was like, I think it was just the one office movie. Mm-hmm.

Well fair, you know, she's, I mean, she is incredibly, I mean, I'm sure you know this. She is very, very smart. But I have to take a moment to brag. You know, she graduated.

She went to NYU. And then until USC and she graduated Magnum Lowdy. She's really brilliant. She's an incredible writer too, which is why she loves to be, you know, vlogs and things like that.

But she immediately, people would love to say because she's our daughter. She works so hard. Yeah. Oh, she's like one of, she's one of the more self motivated people that I've met. I'm really, yeah.

The people that stop me on the street about her, you know, as an agent.

And just I'm always like, I'm so proud, you know.

I mean, you should be proud of her. She's, and she, she is so down to earth. From so many other of the people I've met. And I like, because I was new to allies from San Diego. She's so down to earth.

And what you see is what you get.

“I think it's especially because of the profile of the family she comes from, right?”

Like, you don't, she doesn't lead without it. I guess it's what I'm saying. Well, you know, she, even though, you know, obviously her dad, you know, successful, a lot of money. And then I married Marisa.

Oh, she has two amazing dads, by the way, to be clear. Two amazing dads. So, but when, no, when I first got married, we didn't have any money. Like, she, that's very much ingrained in her. And we would tell her, you know, one day we're going to have a house.

But we have to have enough cushions in the bank. That's what we would say to her. We would have enough cushions. Like, because we could buy the house. We wouldn't have money to bank then.

So she would always say, you know, when, how many more cushions do we need?

How many more cushions do we need? So she was always thinking like that. You know, like, we have to work hard and like put our money away and save our cushions to buy a house. And she'd say, one day, I'm going to buy my own room.

I'm going to have to share her. And I can throw up by the lamp next to my bed. And like, she's always been like determined to like work hard. And, you know, so I'm really, I'm grateful that she has that. Because by the time we got to Porsche, our life was very different.

She is, she is a hard worker. So when you're doing housewives and you're expecting one thing. And then it starts to get very personal and very aggressive, really quickly. What's going to your head? Are you like, this is, this is great.

Stay on the course. Like, I can get the hell out of here. Oh, my gosh. Over the years, there's been so many different things where I've been like, this is not what I was expecting.

I mean, everything from season one, like you just said. Yeah. To now.

“And I think, in the beginning, you know, when I had the big blow”

with my sister, Kim and season one, that was there was so much sub, you know, going on off camera. But I couldn't say on camera. And I would never say. And I did not expect to be pushed to that limit.

Even though, you know, anyway. It was a lot, you know, going through that with my sister, Kim and everything. But of course, then I'm like, this is too much, you know. And I remember them coming to me and saying, we're going to show you this. We're going to come to your house and show this to you.

And I was respectful. Oh, yeah. I mean, our, the reduction company in Alex Vaskin has our second producer. You know, they're, they're not like the other shows. I know because I've talked to the other franchises and our production.

People and producers run things very differently. They came and they sat with us and, you know, one of the producers even like cried with me. And, but of course, those moments, I'm like, this is too much. And I can't explain everything because it's, you know, you can't like, certain family things you just can't share and explain.

Were they showing it to you to kind of brace you for what was they were going to release or to kind of get your input on what they could release? No, no, no, we don't have that on. So they were like, this is what's coming and won't. Right.

And they felt bad. But it was like, it's literally was a season for that. I thought and did. And then it's like, I mean, I learned real quickly that, you know, you don't get to choose what you want to. You want to know what you don't, what you do and don't want to.

But then, you know, even now it's like, it's just too much because what happens is when people start to know your life. And, you know, they'll send me a screen shot and say, like, oh, I saw you had this shampoo and your shower. And you're like, oh, what is in the background? I didn't even know. Oh, I go to get like a lip gloss in the cameras.

Like there's like, hold on. Let me see what's in my drawer, my God. Oh, you're stressing me out. Because they are up in your business.

And, you know, so sometimes the audience, which, by the way, they're amazing.

They're like sports fans.

But sometimes it's like, my God, they really feel that you owe them everything. And I'm like, where do you draw the line? And where do you draw the line? Because, you know, like, a lot of the girls in the show, they'll keep like people.

They're dating, private, off camera. And they don't want to talk about it. And we all just kind of know we don't say anything. But then, all of a sudden, the rules are different. You know, all of a sudden, you know, like, wait a minute.

Everyone, no one here has shown and talked about. So it can be very invasive. And the audience does think, you signed up for this is what you hear. You signed up for this. Do you want to see me going to the bathroom shower and having sex too?

Where do we draw the line? There's something with the platform that you're on that I think has people feeling more entitled than they would. Like, so for example, we do this show. We don't get that kind of reaction. People are like, people probably, you know, they want to know certain things.

But they don't feel like they have a say, I don't think.

And like how we live, but with you, it's like you've put yourself out.

So now we get to comment on everything. No matter how invasive you are. But you're right.

“If you want to see the colonoscopy, it's like, it's like, you have to set your own.”

They do. They want to see it. They do want to see it. But there's what I'm saying. It's like an unspoken, maybe rule.

That's like, if you sign up for that, then now we are entitled to be as invasive as we want to be. There's 100% the mindset. And then also there's sort of this sort. Like, I think because of what we represent, like money and wealth and this sort of the, you know, It's all feelings that you're like, screw you to bad.

You have this problem. No, that's all that. Yeah, there's no sympathy for you. So you get a lot of that. And, you know, some days, I'm like, you know, like, it's very overwhelming.

You know, like, guess what? I also have really bad days. I have sad days, some days. I'm still sorry for myself, but I also feel sorry for myself. Sometimes, do certain days of life gets hard.

Honestly. Does it rattle you at this point? Or it's been so long. And you've dealt with it for so many years that it's. It doesn't rattle me anymore.

But it, I feel disheartened sometimes when I see some comments.

“And I'm like, by me, honestly, everything the world today makes it feel like bad.”

I'm just like, what are we living in? But I don't, I'm not affected by. I don't even, I used to like block people and like, I don't even care. Say your rude thing, I don't care. You want to say I'm ugly, I'm stupid.

They hope I'm fired, whatever it is. You know, I, I learned a long time ago that all the love, like we just said, the, it's a bravo con of like, and then all the hate, neither one of it really means anything. Valerie Burton, I like you came on the show yesterday.

And she said that, too. And I have found the most evolved people in this business. You cannot read the positive or the negative. You said don't read the good or the bad. You can't read it.

You're not, you're not so amazing.

I remember my best friend, Lauren, who passed away. You know, my best friend since I'm seven years old. And people come up and be like, oh my god, I'm saying, you know, they go over the top. And she'd be like, why are they acting like that? And she would joke and say, like, she's not so amazing, calm down.

And you know, we just, we were recently speaking to your niece who, like, I mean, Paris is getting nailed in the, like, so bad. Like, maybe worse, like probably top five worse than anyone, right? Like, so like, if you can name five people that got nailed the most, maybe in that five or three.

Brittany, Lindsey, Paris, that trio that you saw in that famous photo. Yeah. Yeah. But we were talking about this a little bit with her. And she's like, you get some point.

You just gotta lock it off. I mean, I don't think people can get away with what they used to get away with. Any more in the way that they used to write about those girls. I think there was an experience judging in the comments they can. Public comment.

Yeah. That's what people do in the case. It's kind of a thing or like, you know, late night talk show. They're getting called out for what they said to these girls. Yeah.

But like, the comments and things like that. But I think about those three girls specifically all the time. Lindsey, Paris, Brittany. Yeah. Because the bullying and the abuse that these young girls endured.

It's such a young age. It literally could make me like get emotional. It was so mean. It was so cruel. And I would see these things about Paris.

I could get so mad. I like how do people talk these people like this and everything was alive. Everything was assumed and, you know, It was so mad mean. And like to me, I was a little kid when she was born to me.

Paris was like my little baby sister, even though she's my niece. And I was like, how do these girls get through that? How do they survive that? And if they can do that, and I'm the age I am, I can survive this too. It's wild.

I mean, they've got to like put some laws or parameters or something around it. It seems to me that the more hate you get, the more resilience you build though. And you almost become unaffected by it and almost indifferent. Just become decentralized. We're just totally flatlined.

Yeah. We're just like, okay. They want to be like, what else can you say? Right. I've said I've heard it all.

You put your marriage out on screen and everyone fell in love with you guys as a couple.

“And you guys were married and I think this is very important to say for 30 years, right?”

30 years. I know. I mean, I might be done after 30 years. It's a long time. I joked the last time I saw that.

The last time I saw it. I said to myself, what are you saying?

He likes the, he likes those bracelets in the summer. Oh, my God. His shack is middle life crisis stack. I saw someone call it like, oh my God. I mean, that's a good brand name.

Midlife crisis. Yeah. I'm like, what?

“It's so funny because like, people just love to come up with all of these things.”

But yes, I mean, it is a long time to marry it. It's a long time to be married. And for a long time, you know, it was one of the things I was most proud of. And you guys are not divorced. You call it a what?

It says on here. I do. There's a name for this name. I don't know where you're not going. It's from the interview.

I didn't come up with any of it. Okay. Hold on. Let me. This is what we didn't do the contraception coupling.

Post separation. Post separation. Is that right? Well, we're not legally separated. But we just, we don't live together.

We haven't done any paperwork. How have you guys made it? People were kind of like, we talked about this all the time. Like, people were kind of a painting. Like, you might as well just, there's a lot of complications.

Especially with that you guys have built. I would just say just like, maybe just keep it. If we decide to do a separation that's gonna be a similar part. Let's just keep it tight. So much, there's so much to undo.

It's like a ball of yarn. Well, yeah. And then I see that. Doesn't seem like a strategic business move. If we had to.

Yeah, you could have let it let it. Uncooked all the way. Yeah. Let's just keep it tight. So we don't have to go through all that.

Well, there's so many people not also on the show. This season.

“You know, I'm saying, like, what do we going through?”

And you know, Rachel zo is, you know, filed for divorce. And I mean, everyone just does it their own way. And everyone does it differently. It just depends like you guys get along well, you know. Then you're not.

Hopefully you can do it amicably and not hurt, you know. You know, your children, you know.

I've basically been next headline.

Kyle, Richard. I have somewhere. These women are hurting their children. That's what I'm trying to say. Every separation is different.

Every divorce is different. Every relationship is different. And, you know, this is what's working for us so far. And I say so far because obviously we're not going to stay in this gray area. But how have you guys managed to do it so gracefully?

Because he came on our show. And I don't know if you heard the show, but he was really eloquent in the way you talked about you. And I feel like even when you guys are on the show, you can feel it's graceful. What feels like you guys still have a high respect for each other? Yeah.

I listen. I mean, you don't love someone that long and have that kind of relationship with them. And just disappears. I mean, I mean, unless one of them is a complete asshole. I don't know if he's fit, then I guess that would disappear.

You know, we built this beautiful life together. It's beautiful family. And yeah, I just don't, I mean, I have a lot of respect for him. And I have a lot of love for him. So, and vice versa.

So, there's just been no reason to fight and not we haven't had somebody, you know, a third party pushing us to, you know, separate our final night. So, we've just been doing it on our own terms in our own time. Well, you and Maricio ever get back together. A million dollar question.

What do you think? I mean, I've asked that all the time by everybody.

And I mean, listen, like I said, we will not always stay in this gray area.

And there has been more talks about that as of recently. I will say, but, you know, I mean, like TV TV. Well, I mean, I listen, the longer things go on. Like this, it seems harder, you know, to think about how we're doing. The more normal.

More normal, it feels like. Exactly. And constantly, and into this.

“But I think both of us are just hard to accept or acknowledge.”

Because it is such a big part of our identities. You know, I mean, you know, Marito Long, but we've kept it so normal with our family. And I could say, you know, for the kids. It's not just for, I mean, them. It's for us, too.

And my kids are from those part adults. So. Well, I imagine there's like the other layer, which is you guys are going through a lot of this public, which I'm sure is not the easiest thing. Because again, everybody has a comment and a perspective, right?

Everybody feels they're entitled to to tell you guys what to do. Oh, everybody, everybody, and they're like, hey, he's going to screw you. We need to do that. I'm like, okay, okay, okay, you do you. I know.

I appreciate your advice. I know where it's coming from. From your past experiences. They're projecting. They're projecting.

They're different. One thing that I want to know as a mother of three is how you have managed to still have this tight knit family into their 20s and 30s. I really admire that. What are some things that you guys do?

Like, is it weekly family dinner? Like, what are the things you guys traveled together?

Well, first of all, I always say about parenting.

Like, you get out of your kids. You put into them. And the essence of babies. Like, I said, yeah, I was the mom that had the baby strapped on me at all times. And we did the shared family bed.

Which was the worst thing in the world. Don't work on that. But it worked for weird kids. Yeah, we did that along the way. Yeah, exactly.

Well, you said, she sent me that video there. They have a bed that's like a ride. It was like, I just, I guess he's sold any Murphy's house or something. He's like, he has to customize bed. We're all the kids sleeping.

I was like, Oh, great. This is just what we need. This is just what we need. But you guys are like, but long bed. So we can never ever feel.

You guys have girls. So all girls, right? All girls.

Like, you can't have our grown sons laying in bed with it.

Like, they need to go along with this mom for the rest of the life. At some point, they need to go off and be, you know, No. Men that can be hard. It's hard.

It's hard to. Well, so whatever, it's almost six feet. 12 feet is five foot 10. And she would, like, get in bed with this. I'm like, there's, like, you're going so feel there.

We're going to another one. They've got dogs and kids. The bracelets. The bracelets. The bracelets.

Let's see. You're going to get all 40 of those. I don't care what anyone says. I'm just going to say this. And maybe some of the moms or dads will get mad.

Like, you don't want to have a 10, 12 year old boy laying and sleeping mom and dad. You haven't met me. You haven't met me. I'll be like, get on mommy's lap.

I put him under my shirt. Like, I'm still pregnant. What if you met me? And I was, you know, like, hey, I just got done sleeping with my mom like four years ago.

But it's not about you. No, no, no. You had a hard enough time just like having a mother-in-law. Come in. Like, that's the time.

They let alone. No, no, no, no. They're not. That's so hard kids. Yeah.

Like, what are, what are the things that you do?

“Like, what are the things like the mission statement of your family?”

I mean, yes. We do everything together. We are traveling together. We do that a lot. And we used to say that, you know, we like to have them.

Like, this is like out of touch. But I'm just going to say it anyway. Like, when we would go, go on a boat. We love because they couldn't escape. So they couldn't leave for like breakfast lunch dinner.

They'll literally like, you can't go anywhere. So we have you walked down for two weeks. And it's breakfast lunch and dinner together. We dinner books together. And we love that.

Oh, yeah. That was a whole time that we saw you guys on the boat. Yeah. You remember that? Yeah.

I did. We were yacht stalkers. Yeah. There's an app called yacht. You were stalking us?

Mm-hmm. There was a relatable conversation. Yes. They're very relatable. But now what I do is like, we do have family dinners.

We go, I don't know. We have dinner home. We have game night at home. We have movie night at home. And, you know, my girls are my best friends.

They're my favorite people in the world. It's been my time with. And it is. I don't, not ever. Not one time when I have all four together.

“Is it ever past me that I think to myself, I cannot believe all four of these intelligent, beautiful, kind, funny girls, women are mine.”

And yeah, don't tell me, oh, they're not yours. We just weren't just so incubated. I went, no, no, no, they're mine. They are all mine. Okay.

I made them, I carried them. And I look and I'm just like, I can't believe it. You know, God is good. God really, you know, didn't you write? And I just can't believe the third.

These incredible people are like, my, I get to hang out with all the time.

You really do have four solid children. You, from what I can see. I mean, I know one of them. Well, and it's not easy in this city. No, it's not easy.

It's not easy in the city. You've managed to raise them in a really humble way. Is there a takeaway for the audience there? Well, you know, like I said, mone, our first married. We didn't have it.

So Alexia and Ferra especially saw us like, you know, building and, you know, working really hard. And then as we started to be more successful and make for money. But then they just saw us both working really hard all the time. And of course, I had this sort of guilt because I had the kind of mindset of like, stay at home mom all the time.

And then I was feeling guilty that I would go to work with Porsche. And then this girl I knew said to me, if I'm a school mom, that's cool. Well, why do you feel guilty?

“Don't you want your daughters to see work in instead of good example?”

And I was like, oh, oh, oh, okay, yeah, you're right. So, you know, they've seen how hard that melon I have worked for what we have. Because we didn't have help from anybody. And so I think that helps in having to be a conversation. And, you know, they were not the girls that like got expensive handbags when they were,

you know, 15, 16 and got to spend whatever they want. They had to really, you know, I would give them a present. I mean, they're in there when they got straight A's and things like that. And it's open conversation because of where we live and what we do that we've had to make it like that. So, you know, I feel proud of the fact that they are down to earth in that sense,

even though they have nice things and they come from what they come from. How would you manage if there was other friends or kids at the school that were maybe living differently and getting access to all those things? It was the conversation look like to kind of ground your kids. Well, it was kind of interesting because I saw a friend of Porsche's just got on the ocean,

be saying this on here, but she got a GW again for her 16th birthday. And I was like, whoa, wow. And I was like, I cannot believe she got a GW again for 16th birthday. She said, well, why did you guys buy me my car then? What was her car again?

Her car is the Porsche mechanic. Okay, so it's not nearly as expensive as GW again.

But it's a very nice car and it's the nicest of the four daughters first cars.

But that was Mo and he was like, she's her name is Porsche and she needs to have a Porsche. I was like, okay. But so then she like pushed back, well, you did that. So why did you think, I'm like, no, I'm not judging. I was sitting and she's like, no, it felt like you were judging.

And I was like, okay, okay.

“So, you know, there's people that have a lot more than my kids and people have a lot less.”

And that's something that we talk about all the time too. That's a good, like, a good way to look at it. There's people that have a lot less and there's people that have a lot more. It gives you context. They're very aware of that too.

So that's the thing. You know, when she said, like, oh, I felt a little bit uncomfortable. You know, I could tell she was on control certain situations that we did give her that car. So, you know, that's all I know. You know, let's just blame Mo problem.

I'm the guy. I'm dying to ask you about your sobriety. You've been sober for four years. Almost. And then July, July 15th, that's four years.

And were you just sick of being hung over? Like, what was the reason that you decided? No, because I wasn't even a big drinker. Of course, when I would go with my friends or to a party, I would have, you know, Margarita.

When you do the splits.

And if you haven't seen high all due to splits, go Google it.

Yeah, unfortunately. I feel like too many people have seen me do the splits. But also, like, you know, dinner and have a bunch of wine or a couple glasses of wine. But it was a combination of things. You know, I, I am someone who, like, after I'd have a few drinks.

“And I'd say I would wake up and feel depressed.”

Yeah. I could just hold down. Were they, what's the, they call it? Well, not the hang of all. I'm calling you like, no, it was like a hangsiety.

Hanksiety. There we go. Hanksiety. Thank you, Karina. I will hit hangsiety.

I'm an overshare as it is. So then I'd be like, oh, my God. I shared too much. But then I realized now that I do that without drinking any way. So it doesn't really matter.

But it was the timing. It was, I had just lost my best friend to suicide. And I couldn't afford a date to feel feeling depressed. And I wanted to feel the best I could. And, you know, physically.

And I thought, okay, well, I'll just not have alcohol, sugar, carbs for a couple weeks. And, you know, take a couple pounds off. And all of a sudden, just sort of like, I felt so much better. And I looked so much better. And then two weeks became a month.

And then one month, the thing too. And I was like, why do I need to go back to that? Again, the way I can live my life.

I've had fun and never have hangsiety.

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That's if I feel like you can be. I'm going to have a little too much champagne in those scenes. And not drinking is a superpower. It is a superpower. I bet it's still fantastic.

I feel so good. And then you have your wits about your tail. And the next day when they're saying things I'm like, that's not what happened. Let me tell you because I was going.

We're not drinking last night. So they don't remember exactly how the story went. Well, I mean, in times in my life, I see this happen with people. I'm not saying on my show necessarily because

“honestly our show, they're not a lot of big drinkers.”

You're really not. The biggest drinkers I'm going to say is New York. I'm going to agree with that. I've seen some really big drinkers on New York. And I'm just like, oh my god, that is, that's a lot.

I, you know, I just did the ultimate growth trip. Yes. Tell us about that. Give us a little juice on that. Well, I was like, why would I do this when I'm like off not shooting the housewives?

So I felt like I have to do this.

I've been, you know, they're this long in the show. So it was Ficky from OC. You go through this, don't forget anybody got from it. It was Louanne from New York, love Porsche from Atlanta. Theresa from New Jersey, Joseph from Potomac.

And then Lisa Barlow from Salt Lake. And it was a lot of personalities. And I haven't seen all the shows, you know, up to date. But so many personalities and like so much going on. I'm really overwhelming.

But I realize it's like some of them. Like we would stop with different cities and we'd meet other. All the other houses that come in from the franchises. And I saw like, some big blowout fights happen. Hopefully the cameras captured it.

Oh, they did. Okay. But I was like, these people are hardcore. Like we are monks and Beverly Hills guys. The real houses and Beverly Hills are monks at this point.

And I was like, how? I would, I would kill somebody. I would have someone say something that someone's kid. And then they were calling someone up. I don't even say the things because I don't know what we're showing.

We'll be shown. I don't want to get in trouble. But you feel like the new franchises. They kind of got to enter in with a step up in order to compete with the old ones. Yeah.

I don't know. But this was they didn't even need to do this word. Like we're just celebrating 20 years of housewives. Why are you coming in here? So it was just interesting to see it.

It's nice. So because you get to be a sort of the voice reason and set back a little bit. Probably when they're like, didn't, didn't, didn't. Oh, yeah. I was like literally in the middle.

Oh, and they're fighting. And then they're like, Kyle, this is not what happened. This is what happened. She did as I'm like, listen. I'm not your therapist, guys.

And then I'm going to let the Rhode Island girls, the new Rhode Island girls. How's that? Oh. Oh. Whoo.

That was another situation. I was like, I literally feel like my mother Teresa stood in this room. And they came in. And they were coming in.

“And the person I was flying and I think coming out of their mouths.”

And I was just like, oh my god. One point I had to yell. Everybody stopped talking. And I was like, I have to, I had to leave them in for a minute. I was so overstimulated.

But like one million households are around. That's intense. And those OGs, each of them, bring something very different to the table. Oh, yeah. I mean, Teresa, mixing with Lisa Barlow.

Just the way in a lot of the hands, but on the show. She's fine. She's fine. She gave a little. Oh, of course she's fine.

Which that didn't go over very well with a couple of housewives. On the show. They didn't want her to sing or listen to like what she was singing. They were like, you know, like, no man enough with that singing. Really?

I would have like recorded a beat with her. It was so funny. You looked at what it's even that. I was very entertained by that. I cannot wait.

So the sobriety, are you committed to being sober for the rest of your life? Are you committed to just today? What's your vibe on it?

I never put a timeline on it because it didn't want to do that to myself.

I mean, but now I would be so disappointed if I did drink. Even though I didn't have a problem before. Yeah. You know, so I'm like, when I do go out in public. And I say, you know, you have a non-alcoholic, you know, sparkling wine or, you know,

non-alcoholic beer, I'm paranoid because people watching. And I'm like, first of all, I need to look at the bottle. Because I have to see it myself that has no alcohol. And then I asked them to leave it on the table because I don't want someone's like, I saw a guy on my church and I saw a beer bottle and she's a liar because that happens all the time.

Just being accused of lying. But if I had accidentally taken a sip of something with alcohol, I would be really like tortured because I'm very like, you know, like, Capricorn in me. I'm like, no, no, no, no, I have to stick with this and be.

So I don't know. I don't see myself drinking, but I don't know. I mean, what do I say? It is inspiring to watch also your fitness journey.

“It feels like you've gotten to weightlifting, right?”

I do. Yes. I mean, I, I mean, what I call weightlifting. I use weights every day, but I mean, I don't think I'm cool enough to say weightlifting because they're not like huge. I mean, I'm starting to get a little too big for a little bit.

I thought I was doing a good thing and I was like, oh, no, I don't want to talk. Now I got to go back. I have not.

I've never heard of haymod arms.

Like you say haymod across the street. You go haymod and mud. And because this mods, like, it's a little wiggle. It's called haymod arms. I don't like this.

I don't like this anymore. I'm feeling to my sweater. I don't know if I like this. I find it so funny when women say that they're like, they're, they start weightlifting.

Like, I'm getting just getting way too strong, way too big. It's like, you know, hard. It is to, like, guys, like, that's all we do is like try all that. You can do it. You want to be big.

Yeah, but it takes for, like, it takes, like, years to just put on like, Chris is over. He knows. He has, like, I'm just too jacked right away. It's been two weeks of lifted weights.

I don't know. Well, I thought I was, you know, I wanted to look really good for like, see his wedding. And I was like, my dress was strapless. I'm like, I need my arms to be looking really good.

“And honestly, after having four kids and your weight goes up and down,”

up and down, up and down, it's not easy. That's like one of the hardest areas to hit is the arm. Yeah. So I started increasing the weight thinking, I'm going to burn, and make him believe.

Well, my arm looked big in this picture to me. And I was like, that's not what I want.

And I'm sorry that I get so busted. I think it's not my fault. I don't see anything big. I think you might have made a sweater. No, now it came down.

Now I need to know about your supplement stacks. I want to know what you're doing to put on this. I'm not taking pep tides. Oh, yeah, which one? Oh, you got to tell us what my past is.

I'll tell you the one that helps the memory doesn't work because I can't remember the name of the peptides. But I think health, Chris, help me out. GHK, see you. Yeah.

Oh, you're doing the glow stuff. That's like skin hair. Right. Is that the one that you're doing to? Yeah.

Kind of hello. Can you not see the glow glow stuff? And then I take the one that hurts. When I put that's only one that hurts only injected. The blue one.

“I think that was for the muscle repair on some of the BPC one.”

BPC one five seven. Uh-huh. I take that. That's what I take, Chris. GHK, see you.

What is that? Oh, my God. Who the hell could we? Please explain to me how everyone is supposed to remember all of these things. What do these letters one do?

Once for glow. I just stabbed myself and hope for the best, okay? I mean, I literally pinch, stab it in there. And this is somebody who had to go to hypnotherapy because of my fear of needles. I do not care.

I'm not one of these people who's going to say, you know, I earn these wrinkles. You know, I want to age gracefully. So I'm going to be there. By the way, I'm impressed by those people and I admire them. That's not for me.

No. That's not for me. I can take a pet tied and it's going to take away lines and use my red light therapy mask. I'm doing every single thing. I will do every single thing until I'm rigamortous in the ground.

I want Karina to do my makeup when I'm delayed to rest. I want you to fan my hair out, Chris. I better be looking so fucking hot. And by the way, I don't even mean like, you know, like, I want a good, like, not like. Because I actually don't love to wear makeup.

Because Karina will tell you, I don't love to wear makeup. But I want to look at, like, don't have to wear makeup. I want to look, my test of my skin feel good and be healthy from the inside out.

“What are other beauty secrets, tips, tricks that you do?”

Okay. Well, the peptides is a huge thing. Okay.

And I never talk about this just because I don't know why.

No one's really asked me, but like, I do hormone placement therapy. And does it work? Absolutely. Is it the pellet or the shot? I do the pellet.

Okay. Do you want your ass? Does it hurt? Yeah, when I say that, somebody thought actually putting up in my ass. I don't even know that.

Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Clear. That is in the butt. She just put a pellet up her ass.

No, but that is like more. This is in my butt cheek to be clear. This is now. This is becoming a lot more women are trying to talk about this. And didn't they just pass new laws or regulations to push this through a little bit more?

Didn't something happen? I haven't been reading about that. Yes. See, eyes and I hope that, you know, I liked that it's more of an open conversation now. Yeah.

“But like I watched my mom just be terrified, you know, honestly.”

And she had her last period like 40 years old. And I just remember being like moody and edgy. And like I can remember with a fan all the time. And I was like, I don't know, not honestly like that.

I'm never gonna ever be like that.

So I had a promise with my best friend, Lauren. Like if we ever see that happening, we needed to like talk to each other. Because I don't think my mom and I only people have seen go through this. But we realized that house carry they are. And we have to be watching each other.

So I was like, when do I start that house soon? And I literally got ahead of it. And, you know, I battled my weight my pretty much, you know, when I was younger. That was always like my thing. My sister's just were blonde and skinny and I was like curvy.

And, you know, so I was like, I don't want that to happen to me. I want to be like fit. And I really feel like it does really help make a difference. Okay. Yeah.

We've had a bunch of people come on the show. But I always tell people is it's like it's not a matter of if it's just when. Like for sure, I will look at that stuff as they start to get older. Because they've seen the quality of life of somebody to go like change for the better. And we talked to older people on the show.

And they say that their sex life changes, their energy changes, their happier, their health, their way. They're managing weight. And so why would you not access those tools if you can? One hundred percent. And I can, I can tell when someone's not taking it and should be.

should be. Oh. Oh, I'll have to let it go. Oh, I'll have to let it go. Am I gonna get am I going to be a lot like

raked over the cold for saying that? No, I think first to saying yes, Chris. There's no more

colds for you to be raked over. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, colds for you to be raked over. No, no, they're raked over. No, I can look and think, okay, I can tell this person is not taking that and they should be. And I've sent many people, you know, I just think that would every person. I think about the person that way. Yeah, they just don't know. No, no, no, no, no, no, but I know I've sent many of my friends and maybe a couple of house fairs too. Another show on your inner monologue. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is true. This is true. The real inner monologue. Your mom carrying a fan is so

so 360 because Kathy's fan. Oh, yeah, I have the pillow. I got the pillow. Oh, my gosh. I got the pillow. I got the fan. I don't need the fan. I just think it's funny. Kathy, but my mom had a hand fan. Oh, I was with a big big, big, big, big, big, huge, like, what about the, I got the fan to tell the fan that she had the little round. Yeah, she does that. I got to get a row. I got ran into her at the airport today with Rick and there was like three dogs and fill up a fan. Oh, I was like, oh, they were late to the flight. Is like, Hilton, Hilton,

hysterically funny. She is. Yeah, she is. She is very, very funny. Okay, so tell us about your production company and tell us about the new season of the Lincoln lawyer. So my production company is called House of 18, you know, all four of my girls have 18 and a number of days and one and

eight next week. On the 18th of the one, eight lined up. So it's just been my good luck number always.

“That's how I'm going to answer them as college or 18 and all that. But so we call the production”

company that and I have two shows, like I said, that are in development and two shows. I'm trying to think of the wording. What is this called? I think that is. One is like in early stages of development and the other two are like farther along in the process, you know, the scripts being written actually currently right now. Yeah, like pre-production. It's like based off a book or is it something that you're creating out of nowhere? Something, well, I love to read. So like one of

the ideas is something I just came up with that I was inspired by an article. I had read years ago and another one is inspired by just real life things that are going on and another one is just a story that happened to me years ago. So you know, some of them are inspired by some of the stories I came up with and I really love doing that. Like to me, I'm everything turns into like a story in my head. I'm in my car, I don't listen to music usually. I'm just literally just thinking of stories.

Well, there's a lot to think about with everything you've got going on in your life. I'm sure there's all kinds of different stories. Well, now I have like, it's just so strange because my life

“has taken such a interesting like turn. So my life is not what it used to be at all as you may have”

heard. He's ready to go to the dynamic at my house as a very different situation now, but yeah, and then, you know, and so I'm willing to end up producing and acting is just my first love. That's what, you know, I've done since I'm little and being able to do, you know, all of that has been great, you know, the house wise, which is stressful. You know, but then when I'm creating and producing and I'm acting, it's just I just feel only excitement all the time. You know, I don't, even if it's

I always compare, like, you know, I remember when I was shooting the last Halloween movie,

it was the Halloween before that one, Halloween kills. And I was four o'clock in the morning in a swamp and they had men in the swamp with me with headlamps on with rubber suits up to here, looking for snakes and alligators. And I was getting in that with them and I thought, I would rather be doing this. How scary is that? I don't know if you're doing this. You know, I literally get in the swamp with the alligators and snakes for a living on a daily basis of Beverly Hills getting in a real one. It's like,

easy. I went up because they'd only told me the alligators and I was like, I'm not not doing this, because they had a stunt person. I was like, there's no way I'm letting a stunt person do this. So I went up to the man who had like the stick with the thing for the alligator wrangler. And I was like, didn't want the director to hear me and I was like, can you just tell me like, what are the chances of their really being like an alligator near me? And he was like, oh, wow, we're here for the snakes.

I'd be more worried about the alligators and I was like, no, no, don't do this next to me, toy about it. But I was like, I just love that. You know, I love that. I have the sense of like pride after accomplishment. So I loved doing it. And this season doing Lincoln lawyer, I've had more compliments and nice messages from people, people like, you know, all over, they're just like, only nice things, which, you know, you know, when you do the houses, you get such a mix.

So you're like, how this is really nice? And people say, you know, you're a very happy person. But it feels like now, like, people are on your side and really rooting for you. You feel like that that's shifted over the years. Like, we're like, it feels like more positive than negative. It's, I mean, I have to say I'm fortunate in the sense that it's, you know, you see comments in the, you know, like we say an Instagram or like, you know, on page six and things like that.

And they'll be mixed things. But like, people DM me and coming up to me are always overwhelmingly

positive and supportive. And, you know, they really do feel like they know you. You know, they'll say, can I hug you and wrap arms from me and give me a hug? And people love you. And they'll say, like, I thank you. And they'll say, like, you know, when you're going through them, you know, Mauricio and, you know, your journey and this and then that's like the sweet part, you know. Has it ever worked out for any of the husbands? Now that we never got that figured out.

Yeah, I think I think most come up pretty much on scale. He's a little bit of hard time now because, you know, he was never really in there squabbling with the girls, right? Like, he didn't. No. Yeah, I like the guy, whenever I see that, I'm like, oh, that's not going to end well for you. I know. No, he's not there squabbling with the girls. I got asked you a broader Angelina. You know, I said, then I'm taking both. Okay, you're taking both. Yeah, I'm greedy.

“Here's the thing. There's a couple reasons why I said that. First of all,”

everybody was like, you know, there was so much gossip about me and everybody was like, trying to dance around the question, but they just kept, you know, coming to me. So I thought, I'm going to A, you know, say something to like make a laugh and maybe shut them up a little bit. And the other side of that is like, I don't know, you know what? I've changed over these past few

I, that's a great place. I don't know myself. I will tell you, you must know that you are very

got on a mic. I've not heard you want a lot of podcasts. Is this the first podcast you ever

done? No, I just don't do this often. You did juicy scoop. I heard you did long. Yeah, and I did Jackie Shimmels. Yes, yes, because I know Jackie, I found her, I just, and I'll you know, have done Teddy's because she's only best friends and other than that, I don't know, she do them, but then you guys are so close to Ferra and then Moe was on here on Kathy and Ferra and like, you know, let's get the whole family. Yeah, why don't we bring everybody on it? We're here.

“Well, let's do a little bit around table with the whole family. Oh, my gosh, can you imagine that?”

I'll post it like a reunion. I think that would actually be fun. Well, we'll set it up. There's a

moment. Yeah, I'll show you exactly. There's a lot of moving pieces about you are very good on the mic. Like, I got to say she's really good on the mic, so maybe there's a podcast in your future. I actually really actually do want to do that, and I know everyone seems like everyone, but I think there's so many like things I want to talk about. I actually thought about maybe doing one of my four daughters. You guys can swap it out together. I'm really dealing with

“things of Porsche going to college and all that entails and her leaving home and emptiness and”

isn't it? And then so he has her own thing in her 20s and trying to figure out where you know where she's going in her career. And then there's Alexia, just getting married and she's going to have a baby, work fair. We have so many topics. Like, I'm like, we could be doing this together. And then I could connect them again and not even need the boat. Welcome in, and I do know a guy that might be able to help you start the podcast. I know I can talk to you about that. I feel like

that pitch is pretty fucking strong. Was that a good fit? That's great. Many times. Kyle Richards at Kyle Richards 18, where can everyone watch support? See you all the things. Like, I asked me, yeah. Oh, if you yourself out, well, yeah, that's my interim at Kyle Richards 18. I do TikToks now and then because of Corona and Chris over there, you know, and that's where everyone's going to these days. I can't do TikTok. So Fia suckers me into her TikToks too, and she's people

really like stuffy on TikTok. We need a podcast. I know. I'm going to, because then I could

like stay home and like never leave and just forget because what I do with podcasts, I forget

people are going to listen to later. And I just sit here and I feel, I feel like it's just us.

“Kind of like how is what it means to trouble? That's why it's successful, though, those are the”

ones that are successful. You could set it up in your living room and like do a whole show. And I will say, not, I've had a lot of housewives on the show, not everyone is going on a mic. I'll be there now. We're going to get nailed. Very good on a mic. Well, you heard of you and I, where do I start? Where do I start? Where do I buy this equipment? Well, we're going to have a little bit of guidance here. See, I'm going to now pitch you after this is out of the show. Thank you for

for doing this job. - Thank you.