“Why trust what I can see?”

plus we'll catch up with Michael Wilburn, who is in sunny North Scottsdale.

“And we'll talk with Craig Locklin about Team USA's dramatic win over Canada for the gold medal, but first, commerce.”

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Now, customers will try. Previously, on the Tony Cornheiser Show. There are some people, not just Kevin Sheen, predicting three pieces of snow. Oh, yes, every time I turn on WTOP, they say, "Please don't listen to your weather apps." No, there's apparently it's a 30% chance of three feet of snow.

And a 30% chance of an inch or two, it's no. Three feet of snow. That's a big gap. Yes, because if the bombo genesis forms in exactly the right latitude and longitude,

that explodes over Washington, DC, and then goes up the coast and destroys Philadelphia and New York.

The Tony Cornheiser Show is on now. We were fortunate to this point in Washington, DC, inside Metro Washington, DC. Let's see what number you pull. I can't speak for other people, but I would say, looking at my yard, walking the dog this morning. I'd say three to four inches.

I don't think we had more than that. What do you say three? Yeah, something like that. And any classic DC over respond, we messed up the previous storm. We're going to be out early and often for this.

The roads are wonderful. Roads of things haven't looked this clean. Yeah, it's really, it's beautiful. Now there is, it's a heavy snow, which means that in our yard, for example, tree limbs are falling. And that's going to continue all day.

Hopefully trees don't fall, but for those kids who have a two hour delay, it's a perfect snowball snow. Yeah, oh, yeah. So we're fortunate. I hope that I'm sorry for those who are not so fortunate.

“For example, I believe Sean said he's got about a foot of snow in New Jersey.”

Maybe he'll get a little bit more. My daughter near Atlantic City was expecting 16 to 18 inches of snow. Boston is expecting 20 inches of snow, Cape Cod more than that. So, you don't know if the bombo genesis has formed, it just spared us, apparently. I'm very grateful for that.

I will say that we lost power yesterday. We lost power at about seven o'clock in the evening. Just went out. There was no explosion. There was nothing like that.

All electrical power went out in our house. The people on the street who lost power as well. I was told that they called Pepco as well. We called Pepco. And they said, in effect, they say, okay,

well, we will write a ticket for this. What that means is they acknowledge that you have no power. And the acknowledge it is their responsibility to try and help you get power.

“And so they go through the forms of writing up the tickets and then getting a truck.”

And then after they get a truck, then they have to get a specialist truck as well.

It's not just the first, the first people who arrive usually because I've gone through this before.

It's Captain. Yeah, they tell you, they tell the camera is off. Right. When the pros from Dover show up, they tell them what's wrong. Yeah, go over that.

So there were Pepco trucks on our street from about eight o'clock at night on. And at about one thirty in the morning. And I'm aware of this. I'm not sleeping well, obviously. At about one thirty in the morning.

And then the Pepco trucks had been up the street. The Pepco trucks began to move. This created a panic in me because there was no power. They're giving up. They're giving up.

Yeah, I thought they'd given up for the night. Wait for daylight. That's what I thought. It's quittonton. They came down to the end of the street.

They sat there for less than a minute. Power came back on. You know me pretty well. I don't trust that. I was anxious.

I was anxious that they would turn the corner. The power would go back off and I would have to get it. Why trust would I can see? Yeah, but I, but the power came on and to this point. That was about one thirty to this point.

It's about eight o'clock in the morning when we do this. The power has stayed with us. So I'm very, very grateful for that. They're in credit to Pepco in their communication. Cause through the app to give you updates with estimated times.

And he just wouldn't see it. They did say taking back. So we're going to fix it by nine. And for my perspective, I can. I drop off at about nine.

I drop off a portable charger for your phone.

And really what I was doing was I was trying to assess the ambient temperature in the house. Didn't bring up the thermometer, but it was fine. I tried to have you keep the doors closed. And then I figured to be on by midnight. Once I went to bed.

I just wanted to make sure it came on at some point. Leave your elderly parents in the Lord. Just give it a bed. Get an extra blanket. So yeah, it wasn't, you know, as I woke up twenty times in the middle of the night.

I was never particularly cold.

But I'm not, I'm not that person. You know, I'm not. I like it cold anyway in the house. And so it didn't bother me. No, it did not bother me and the, everything came back on.

I can't wait for the bill, be $4,000, you know, this month. Sure. So the Olympics are over. The hockey game is worth talking about. We will talk to Wilbon about it.

We will talk to Craig Locklin. Great NHL player. We will talk to him about it. I will just say upfront that three on three is tremendously exciting. I'm not sure it's fair.

I'm not sure it's fair. The NHL doesn't do that. The NHL may go to four on four in the regular season. And then into a shootout. But in the playoffs, you're there till you die.

Yes. Somebody has to score for real goal. Yeah. Yeah, that's how it works. Is you're thinking influence by what happened in the women's,

gold game as well, just in terms of these, you start that extra, you know, the overtime and it's over in a minute and a half. I think they wanted to be over. Yeah.

“I think that's the goal to go three on three.”

No, no, no. For in my mind, the women's game is the women's game. It could have entirely different rules as far as I know. It does not. But it could, and it would be okay. I mean, every, every sport.

Yeah, just saying it. Inclusive. You saw games and quickly. Yeah. And I'm good with that.

And, you know, because you know, if you, if you take a run at it and you miss, the other teams go any other way to on one, which is what happened. At the end. That's a quick turnaround. So, you know, that was, it was lovely to watch.

I just want to say this out loud when people make references to 1980. You're, it's okay if you say the last time the United States team won was 1980. It is not okay if you make a comparison between the United States beating Canada and 1980. There's no comparisons.

We're all at each other players. You know, we, Canada has the most NHL players.

We have the second most NHL players.

We are not cabbage patch kids going up against something. We're not. No. You know, we're as good as them. But 1980.

That was different. So that was different. There were no pros. You know, the Russians had pros. The Russians had people in leagues.

We didn't have anything like that.

“I think, and the thing with your app, you're seeing history happen in real time when”

you watch, you know, the flag draped around the shoulders, the skate around the photos app. Yeah. The celebration. So it's less.

Jack Hughes. That, that great moment of glory cost him about four teeth. Wow. So I'm sorry. I'm sorry if it's about is vacant.

You can rent it. You know, there's a lot of teeth missing at that point. But yeah, he's he is heroic. I don't know that he's on the micro rusey only level. I don't think he's on the micro rusey level.

But I think he's, I think he's pretty good. Were you watching the Pokemon intermission break? The first one with the rusey only. I did not see that. He looked like he was ready to suit up.

Yeah. Well, he's ready to go. He has. And you know he's great line, which he says in person and speeches in documentaries. If that shot goes foot to the left on Peyton houses for the rest of my life.

That's right. So great. So yeah. Okay. A couple of things about the snow that I wanted to say.

And then I'll get to something that I, I hope you'll find enjoyable.

There were predictions capital weather gang and they never went crazy.

They never went crazy. They never said it would be more than five or six. Depending on the area, they show you a picture and they show you the defined area and which you live in. And you can see I think that the area of DC where we live was never going to go higher than six. It was like right close to us could have been two to four and then a little bit away three to six or we could have been in the three to six.

So anything like that. But there are things that you don't think about. Everybody thinks about their children in school and schools will close. The reason schools will close is because the teachers don't live near the schools and it's hard for them to try. And it takes off to get the schools ready.

Yeah, so you know, but that's not what I want to talk about because I was talking with my friend Tom Lockney who's a doctor who has procedures on Monday. He schedules operations on Monday, four or five whatever he does on a Monday. And he said, look. The patients, for example, they don't want to miss this. The doctors will do their best to get in and they may be a little bit late or they may be completely on time.

“And you know, you have to, you have to try to get there on your regular time, but patients.”

You know, this is not like canceling a flight. You don't want to cancel an operation. No. And he was telling me, and I never even thought about this. That patients assemble.

Like last night, there were a whole bunch of people that simply had Georgetown and children's at all of these places.

That's what they're going to do. They're going to be there. Nobody's sure. Nobody's going to say, yes, sure. We'll do it a couple of months.

Nobody's still in that. Nobody's doing that.

“So I just, I had not even thought about that at all.”

And that was interesting to me. You have to get to the hospital. And the hospital basically has to provide, you know, for you in the way that they would. That's their job. Emergencies.

That's their job. Health care and emergencies. So that was interesting to me. I mentioned this on Friday. I was taken aback by the fact that there was a commentary on, I thought on the Olympics.

Dealing with the crazy sort of nomenclature and vocabulary of those half pipe full pipes, three quarter pipes or whatever. And it was said that someone on TV said, I will interpret this from my good friend Toni Cornheiser. And I didn't hear it. And I didn't believe it. You know, she would play it for folks again.

Yes, play it if you could. Doing a triple-court 1980. So not only is he spinning, but he's also adding that slight car and the butter. Almost beat together. And it's just adding an extra bit of flavor to the spin itself.

And the judges love additional moments of interesting things at it. So to translate that from my good friend Toni Cornheiser. That is a five-and-a-half rotation spin off access with the cork. Yep. Simple as that.

Okay. So I doubted this was actually on the air. I couldn't be sure this is acting a personalized broadcast. Isn't that that finishing salt? Yeah.

I mean, come on.

You know, if you've never seen it before and you hear commentary like that, you just turn away.

You don't know what you're doing. And you can, by the way, to the naked eye, you can't tell who's better than the other guy. It all looks amazing. From Todd Harris and NBC Sports. Dear Mr. Toni, it was I who referred to you as my good friend during the men's free ski

big air competition on NBC Sports. These are my 12th Olympic games. And as we've prepared for this latest iteration in those past, NBC has always put a premium on story telling and helping the viewer understand these sports that are not in the mainstream. I had to produce her tell me.

“Remember most of the people tuning in have no clue about the terminology and how these sports work.”

It made me immediately think of you and your rant last week about how you thought some of these sports are made up. So thank you for being the viewer I imagined as Tom Wallace and I did our best to explain the scoring and the trick names. We have never met in person, but we have crossed paths in the past. Before coming to NBC nearly 18 years ago, I was with the ABC, ESPN as part of the Keith Jackson Dan Fouts, Pack 10 Game of the Week Football Crew.

Like you, Mr. Jackson was an exceptional writer and broadcaster and like you. He was genuine and great with words and made you feel like you were listening to a friend described the most common occurrences in a way that helped you better understand the situation.

However, to my recollection, he never bought children's affron.

Only to get a call out. You are old married. Keith used to do. We crossed paths on PTI once when my halftime interview with Lloyd Carb became tense. He was not happy with the question I posed him and showed down with Ohio State and replied,

"Why would you ask such a stupid question like that?" He immediately apologized after the game and I hold no grudge and respect him in the job he did in Michigan. It was a topic for you and Wilbon to discuss before the big finish. In conclusion, thank you for the hours of entertainment I received from the work you Nigel and Michael do. In a world that seems bent on dividing us, it's good to know that there is a place where we can gather a few times

where we can discuss important sports, social and weather topics that matter.

“Where else would I have ever learned not to flush the mouse?”

If it's not already taken I would like to apply for the Tony Corner as a show official Olympic extreme sports correspondent. Thank you again for the impromptu on air inspiration to be a better broadcaster in serving the viewer. Grotsy Millie, respectfully Todd Harris, and we see sports. That's great. That goes on the special pie.

Oh yes. I doubt he's listening today because they're in here. They're in here. One of the things that they said yesterday was all those NHL guys after the game, which was a great game. They were supposed to fly into New York and that's so fast.

Miami. Miami. They bring their stuffies into Miami. So that's a wonderful story and it obviously was on the air and it's thrilling. It's thrilling to me.

I was sent an additional piece of audio from him in rehearsal. You know, I guess they're just running stuff to make sure everything works and later on. And he's singing the mail back theme. Is that right? So we'll have that for later in the way.

So Todd listeners and we're, you know, I always wonder who's listening and now I know Todd's listening.

That's great. We will take a break. We will come back with Mike Wilvon who will talk about his feelings on the hockey game and maybe the golf yesterday because I watched and I assume he watched. And if he's not ready to talk about the golf, I'll just talk about it because I enjoyed it. I'm Tony Cornhizer.

You're listening to the Tony Cornhizer show.

It's by JJ Denonzeo and here is the note.

“You recently read an email from a listener in Snow Quality, Washington.”

And I immediately thought, "Hey, I know that town." In fact, I visited Snow Quality Falls, a 268 waterfall, foot waterfall, featured in the notoriously weird TV show Twin Peaks twice in the past 15 months. Both times I was there with my daughter, JJ, who was a sophomore at the University of Washington. Snow Quality Falls, about 30 miles southeast of the UW campus. All this a long way of saying I haven't sent you guys any JJ's music in a while.

So here's Love Blind, which he released last year. Sign John Denonzeo, who Michael Wilvon and I worked with at the Washington Post. That's a jolting thing to get something from him. It's really nice and she's a lovely, lovely, super talented. Well, about his out in Arizona and he watched what I watched, what we all watched.

You loved the hockey game, didn't you? Yes, yes. You know, the end of it was fine. It was the end of it, the US-1 great.

But I thought that was almost as athletic, given that the third period to me was maybe the best sustained period of action.

I've ever seen. It's way up there. I mean, I, you know, people in the listening may think, "Oh, you know, Wilvon, because in being, people should shut up." Because as you know, I go to a fair number of hockey games. I go to blackhawks, and it would stay in war for about a decade when they were in big games. I went to like all their home games.

And I've seen some great play in Selyka playoffs and third periods over my lifetime. That third period, the goal, tilling alone. Fantastic.

“Is the highlight real from that, from both of them?”

Yeah. Was stunning. And, you know, certainly United States could have been, you know, could have lost six to one. Yeah, the other team had 42 shots on goal and hella book was fabulous. It's just so, so many unreal chances and stops that you just can't.

And with the most pressure you're going to have for those goals. And there's maybe the pressure is a little different for Selyka game seven. But it's similar. It's not identical.

And I just thought the second and third periods alone were like, "Okay."

That's it. Didn't you think when there was a double penalty on that one Canadian player? In the third period, didn't you say to United States what's going to score then? I did. I did.

That's necessarily because by then we established how great the goal ten was. Right. Right. And so, no. No, it's just like.

And then there was a penalty. And then it was an American penalties. Yeah. And it flipped over to the American. They couldn't come into it.

But they gave them their own power play late.

For like a minute, four years, something, but, no, no, that's necessarily by then Tony.

Because at that point, you're looking at the goal ten is going, "No, I'm maybe nothing gets past these guys." If what I thought was, business going to take three on three. You know, you create the kind of space and chances that just can't go tender. And so, you can do.

“And that's what the three on three is designed to do.”

Do you think, and I know what you're saying. I know that you look, these are the rules that they play by. The NHL plays by different rules. Did you think three on three is a fair way to decide it? Yes.

I think it's much fair that it'll be kicks. Yeah. Okay. Yes. Okay.

Did you make Canada the favorite going in or the United States? They're all NHL players. They're all anti-players. Yeah. I don't think there's a favorite.

I mean, you've teammates, you have friends playing against each other, just like a bunch of guys playing shirts and skins, except they're the 30 best players in the world. Yeah. I didn't know how that was established.

I don't know how to do that. My only issue in this is when people say, "Oh, it's just like 1980." No, it's not. No, it's not. These are all pros of an equal nature.

That was different. Is that clear? Is that clear? I don't know. I don't know.

Yeah. People, people, of course. And I thought about this story. People don't have any sense of history. We know that.

We thought you had to talk about all that. Yeah. There was no sense of history. There was no sense of what was going on in the world in 1980, with, I mean, the United States versus the Soviet Union.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, people need to just pipe down. They have no idea what they're talking about. It was nothing like amateurs at the time.

I mean, yes, a few of those guys were going to become great players.

And the, the shock.

There was no shock to whoever won yesterday.

No, not at all. None. They were the best two teams. They proved it in the Four Nations Cup. They proved it over a long time.

Yes. And the best, you know, players in the world. And so no, it was nothing like 1980. Yeah.

“Was there anything besides hockey in the winter Olympics that actually caught your attention?”

And you really liked. I'm not, like, no. I mean, like I claybo a lot of a couple of times. As he worked his way to eight levels or whatever. Good goals, whatever it was.

I watched some of the, obviously, I watched the downhill early on. Yeah. I don't because I don't watch this skating. And that's a enormous part of what people pay attention to. And I'm says, so we're during the winter games.

And no, not, not really. I mean, I, I, I checked it on stuff. I watched a little curling. So I watched a little of this, a little of that. But was I captivated by anything other than the hockey?

Not really. Okay. All right. Did you watch Riviera yesterday? Yeah.

Okay, good. Watch it for a year. Let's talk about Riviera. Let's talk about Riviera. Because Jacob Bridgeman this time.

“Did not have a Pacific Ocean to put his toes in.”

And no sand to hit out of and hit over a bunch of rocks. He held on. Boy, oh, boy, Mike.

That first put on 18 after a great second shot into 18.

That first put was four and a half feet in the marsh. Sure. I, I thought, I thought he was going to lose it. What did you think? I, I, I wanted to watch him.

I watched him interviewed after his Saturday round. He's pleasant. He was pleasant. He was pleasant. He was.

He, he, he talked about the kinds of things that he was introspective without having to get on a couch. And I, maybe I was just sort of, I, I'm not going to say I was really saying the whole weekend. Because he had a guy that I know anything about and no personally. When I, I thought he was going to be all right. I thought he's going to be all right.

And going in with that big of lead, he would have a six shot lead. Yeah, a six. At one point he had a six shot going in. Yeah, and he got a hot, hot start. He part, he starting at number eight.

He part like six or seven in a row. Yes.

“And people, you know, people were trying to catch him.”

But Kitty, I'm a miss two very makeable birdie. He put some under eight feet. Rory had things hang on the lip. They didn't go into the last hole. So they had to hold out a bunker shot to get himself going.

Yeah, see, hold out a bunker shot. So it was, I didn't know that he was truly through.

He hits such a good second shot.

Do you hear his name? 18. He couldn't feel his hands. Really? Yes.

He could touch. He'd touched a punch. He's kidding, right? Yeah. Yes.

But that's until you cash in. Until you do it. Until you do it a few times. I would imagine that, you know, everybody has that story. And that feeling, it's the one thing that makes you feel like when you're a week in player,

you have something in common with the best players on earth. Yeah. You can experience that thing in the most famous venues. It was the one here about TGL. Right.

We're on ESPN 2 for two days in a row because of TGL. So you don't like people hitting balls into bed sheets. You don't think that's good. I know. I do.

I do. Yeah, I like it. I get ball to the bed sheet. Let's go on the weekend. Michigan Duke.

Pretty good. Not great. It's great. You looked at that. The whole weekend.

I didn't isolate on the game of Michigan Duke. Even though it was great. Period. Yeah. I looked at that game for a different.

I looked at the whole weekend differently because I wanted to do this. Because the games, none of the games featuring the top teams, mattered in terms of them getting in the tournament. The other teams playing this weekend that I cared about. The big kids were on the bubble.

None of them. Right. So I chose to watch it. And then ask people who's the best player you saw on the weekend. Who's the guy?

If your team is tanking since that's the subject of day. Who do you want to tank for? That's what I cared about. In all those games. And so the Duke Michigan game was loaded with like four people.

That you want to tank for. Apparently. And so it's Houston.

Houston Arizona. And so it'd be why you.

You want to tank for the event that you just do.

You want that kid in your uniform from 2,027 to 2,040. So that's what I cared about. Watch it. It's the best. It's the most loaded cover of college basketball.

I think we've ever seen. Now we don't know the top end. It's going to be like 1980, two, three, four, five, six. We don't know that. It probably won't.

It almost cannot be. But damn. Did their kids who can just fly out play. And they're 18. There are so many of them that you don't even really have to tank.

Because if there are 8 to 10. If there are 8 to 10.

“That's why this is the actual year I would flatten the odds in the lottery utterly.”

Utterly. Here's the thing. Here's the year to be able to do it. You have to be able to scout. Yeah.

Because I agree with you.

I don't need the big first this year.

No. I can pick seven. I can pick eleven and five. Yes. And Joker.

So you're right Tony. I agree with you on that. You don't first of all. Now you need to. You can't know.

You can't know. You can approximate that you can guess. There are teams like this scouting teams like Oklahoma City, which are just superior. This is better than you. They go out and they swipe this kid from Philly.

And he. Come on. This kid goes score 25 again. He's in the second year. And the six are just gave him the OKC.

So OKC can identify somebody at 25.

And kick your ass if you're picking third.

And this is that. This appears to be from what we saw this weekend. This appears to be that. Yeah. I mean, I think that's possible.

I mean, you know, we listen to people like Jay Billis who tells us this. And all of this stuff gets sort of reinforced. It's a different league. The NBA is different than college. It requires different skills and it requires literally a physical strength that college does not require.

It doesn't. It's a 48 minute game. Not a 40 minute game and you're playing against. People ten and twelve years older than you. And you have to adjust to that.

“That's why when you look at all of these people at the wizards of draft that in the past three years other than the big kid other than the big kid.”

They've drafted everybody between six four and six seven and they all look the same. I don't know if they're any good. I have no idea. You know, so yeah, you. Yeah, you need good scouting.

Is there what? So we start now. The NBA is back. And the NHL will be back at the at the end of the week. Um, does there any particular thing you're looking for?

Anything you want to see other than Wemba Neama? Lots, lots. I mean, we got twenty seven games, twenty six games, twenty five games. Left the NBA. And so now, you know, load management is for the most part over.

And people will actually come to the arena in their maybox. And they will try to actually put a uniform on in 20. Yeah, consecutive nights, all that. And so, yeah, there's a lot of stuff. I want to see.

Consent Antonio and Jim and Detroit.

“Did you want to sound a little bit of play out for our break?”

A little bit last year, lost in six to the next. Can either one of those teams with a cast of baby faces? Can they, they're so talented. They're so good. Before they start to be torn up with things like.

You know, selfishness and agenda basketball and free agency. The injuries and age, awareness here. Can either one of them break through early. Like, I want to Detroit and say that Antonio are those fascinating teams to actually just watch play the games. And of course, Luca and LeBron are, but I don't think they have enough.

No. You know, it gets back to if the lecker don't have enough. Then I'll ask this now. And how great is Luca? How great is he?

I don't want to hear about how prolific he is. I don't want to care if he should have been traded and if do should have been fired. That's fine. That's last year's conversation. He's on the team now with a bunch of dudes who can play.

He's out there with a 41-year-old guy and some other people who were pretty good. That's just one of them.

He's not there with people who have been in playoff games.

He's out there with a starting center who was a starting center in the NBA finals. I don't want to hear the excuse.

“You would not let I'll turn the question on you and then you can go do what you need to do.”

Would you bet on the leakers as constituted in a playoff series right now against either? Oklahoma City or San Antonio. I would not. Would you? I would not.

I would not. That because we know the results of what? I would not. Watching the games. I would not.

I'm not doing it based on. I'm watching the games. The leakers are not up to. They're not. The level that they need to be.

No, they're fun to watch. They're not on that level. Yeah. They're not. They're not.

Or nor Cleveland the next. I sort of like Cleveland. I think hardly. No, no, no, no. I mean, the leakers couldn't.

No, no, they couldn't. No, no, no. No, no. No. No.

They can't. They do stick. They're like. How many teams get the playoffs? A 16.

“So are the 16 teams in a playoffs that are going to make it.”

I'm counting the two play teams. They want to qualify. I'd say the leakers are 13. 12, 12, 13. Somewhere in there.

That's all about. So you, you and I agree on them. And yet, you know sports. They're going to ask us. Talk about the leakers.

Well, you can tell people what happened when we had. When they said that on Thursday or Friday. And I said, no. No, we're not doing the leakers. No.

Right? Yeah. No. We're not doing the leakers. No, we're not doing the cowboys.

We're not doing the cowboys. We're not doing the cowboys. Or the leakers? No. No.

No.

We're not doing stories out there as we start this first Monday with basketball again.

I'm happy to do the leakers during the playoffs. I'm not doing them. We're not doing the walk up. All right. I'll talk to you later.

Yeah. Michael Wilbur and Wilson Girls. We will come back. Craig Lockham. We'll talk about the United States Canada hockey game that ended the Olympics.

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So now we have Craig Lockham with us. And as terms of introduction, Craig grew up in Canada and realized every Canadian kids dreamy played in the NHL. Stayed with hockey and has been on the broadcast crew with the Washington capitals forever and ever and ever.

And also told my kid he's not good enough to play. Smoked hockey, which has made us very happy. He sent me to golf. Right, sent him to golf where he was actually pretty good. Let's get to the game.

Let's get to the climax of the Winter Olympics, United States against Canada and hockey. You've watched a million games. That game seemed extraordinarily good. What did you think? Fantastic.

I mean, what a great game for a global game of hockey. I think, you know, it was a house divided here, Tony, by the way. Me being from Toronto as you to do. And my wife and kids, American, it was a house divided here. I had a Canadian flag ready to cloak over top of me if we had one.

But because the bottom line was it was spectacular.

It was drama. It was the dream teams of the world going head to head. And to me, I don't think hockey got any better than what we saw. I've had speed. I've had finesse and had skill.

“The only thing I didn't like about the game.”

And I will keep saying this. I would have preferred when you go to overtime in the Olympics. It's still five on five. That's all. That's the only thing I would change is that we play the game until someone wins five on five

and overtime. And if it goes three overtime, so be it. Let's get a winner five on five. US deserved the win at three on three. They had a real good rush up the ice.

And our guys didn't connect properly defensively. And it was in the back of the net. And game over. But what a spectacular event last night. And throughout or yesterday morning and throughout the Olympics when it came to hockey.

Yeah, I was going to ask you about that. I mean, I feel and I was talking with Will Von before. You know, we're okay with three on three, but it doesn't seem fair. It seems too quick. It seems to be let's just get this thing over with.

Whereas I think I would go to three on three as a last resort. I would certainly do a five on five period to begin with.

Yeah. I like that idea, Tony. I think that's a great idea. That's a great, you know, compromise. Go five on five for 20 minutes.

If it doesn't work out with a winner, go three on three. I'm good with that.

“But I think the game should be played five on five.”

I think the guys would like it. Also, I think the nations would love it. I think it's just the way to do it in the future.

So Canada certainly in terms of shots on gold dominated the second then the third period.

Hella book was fantastic. Both goldies were fantastic. And you're looking at something like that. What do you, what is your admiration level of the goldies? I mean, I thought how about stole the game to be honest with you.

I think the camp Canadians will look back on this metal game and say, what it should have could have. They had a lot of opportunities with empty nets that saved with his stick. Remind me of the great hope he saved in the playoffs. That all of a sudden sparks your game to the next level and puts your team in Stanley.

That's like the cap set after that saved by Braden Holtby. So I thought he had the similar save yesterday morning against Canada. And I think he stole the show if not for Hella book. And everyone says in the playoffs or in the Olympics you need good gold tenning. I didn't know how great Hella book was because if you look at his season's numbers,

he wasn't that good this year. And he's won the best in a couple of times, but this was sort of a down year for him. And I'm thinking, okay, gold tenning probably in the favor of Canada. You know, four nations was won by Bennington.

He was all it in there too. And I was thinking, that was the difference Tony. When I coming into the playoffs coming into the metal round, I said the difference his Canada has been into. And all of a sudden it turned out the opposite.

And Hella Buck was out of his mind the way he played. It's an odd circumstance for me because in the last say eight to ten years,

if you ask me about goalies, I always come up with the name of a Russian goalie.

They're not available for Canada or the United States. So I, you know, I thought, well, you know, it's not going to be as good, but both of those guys were great. Did you? I mean, I assume you expected this, but I'm not certain because Finland is usually very good.

Sweden is often very good.

“Did you expect the United States in Canada in the gold medal game from the beginning?”

Absolutely. No doubt about it there. The hockey powers right now. No doubt. And no question about it.

I think the next teams you mentioned are the second tier. Could they win with some good gold tending or good luck? Absolutely, but even in the women's side, which I thought was spectacular. Also, it Canada and you asked, you know,

all right, the top of the ledger.

There's no one close Tony when it comes to women's hockey and those two teams. And I don't think there's anyone real close when you put dream teams. Together, that are as close and as good as Canada and US. So you talked about a house divided before. You've been in the United States.

You've lived here for, I don't know, probably 40 years. Or you know, I mean, it seems to me that you could say you win either way. Seems to me, you could do that. Yeah, you could say that. That is true.

You know, it's like when I we talked about, I said, well, who's going to win? Well, Canada's got to win. And I was cursing when we missed the goals. And I was saying to my wife and daughter and everybody in the house that was watching. We got a house ready, divided, but it was at the end of the day.

I just thought of this game as being great for hockey, Tony. To be honest with you, it's going to grow the game. The game's going to get stronger. It's going to be talked about more often. It's a pinnacle of sports playing in the Olympics for a gold medal.

And to me, that was spectacular. I just think, you know, what they're shouldn't put up in it's like a lot of my friends. Text me and said, man, we wish it would have been a draw. Now we wish it would have been a tie. Yeah.

Because it was such a good game that that sort of what it deserved. Because both teams competed, both teams were loaded with talent. And to me that you shot sort of, you know, was a silence in our house. However, my wife and daughter were cheering. So there you go.

So let me get to something you just mentioned. The, you know, the gold medal. Gold medal is a big deal. But you grew up to be a hockey player. You grew up to be in the NHL.

Yeah.

“Is a gold medal equal to lesser than greater than the Stanley Cup?”

I would say equal to. You're really funny. I mentioned that. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, because it's you're competing against the world where in the NHL,

you're competing against the NHL, the league itself. And a lot of teams aren't as stacked as others. You know, in case in Pointe, Colorado with Maccar and all the size of McKinnon. A lot of guys we saw yesterday morning are loaded and trying to win a Stanley Cup. And the Olympics, what I find interesting is how fast teams can come together.

Which was all called. It's good.

You know, if we're not that Tony, you know, I know a funny story about that was.

I still to this day have a letter from Team Canada saying. Sorry, Craig. We're not going to select you for our team this year. We were on, you know, we were on our list, but you weren't selected. I was a senior at college at the time.

And I was thinking, okay, there's college kids going. And I was thinking, you know, what that would have been very cool. I actually got a letter from Team Canada, which I didn't even expect to get a letter. And that I was not going to the Olympics. I was actually coming back from a game in the ACACs with Clarkson back on the day.

When our butt stopped watching an arrest front because we were so enthralled with this team. You were saying what they were doing and the Russian game was on and all that. And I remember it like it was yesterday. So to me, the Olympics are right up there. I mean, you went to gold medal.

I was hoping and really helped, praying probably that Tom and Logan Thompson from the caps would have had a chance to win the Golden. They had a chance. They win the silver. But it's a fantastic accomplishment.

“And Tony, I think it's right up there with the cup.”

I really do. That's interesting. I know how important hockey is to Canada. I'm sure that if Canada did not make the final game, it would be a state of mourning up there.

But they, you know, they won. What they did with the Four Nations Cup. What everybody did with the Four Nations Cup was fabulous for hockey. And this continues it. But that was just great.

And they won the first one.

And then, you know, on home ice, Sidney Crosby made the goal that won the Olympics in Vancouver. I believe. Can they, yeah, can they accept, can they accept losing in the final game like this? Or do you think that's tragedy in Canada? It's get a feel like tragedy up there.

I know my sisters and brothers were attacked. You can say, yeah, this is tragedy. We expect a win. They'd expect a win if they're game. It's hometown.

It's the biggest sport in Canada, obviously.

“But I think, yeah, I mean, they expected to win.”

Is it a tragedy probably because they all expected that they had put together. Everyone was reveling in the fact that they had put together the best team Canada ever had. Really? Really? This team was supposedly the best team from top to bottom that has ever skated for Canada.

So now you're up there thinking, okay, we got it. You know, we got this goal. And now all of a sudden it's taken away from you on that goal from views. And it's going to take some time to sink in up there up north. I mean, this is a pinnacle of hockey.

Everybody in Canada would have been watching to me. I think the type of game this was was very similar to the 72 Canada versus Russian game. And that's when we went, you know, nine games or whatever it was playing Russian. We ended up winning that series against Russia and that everybody stopped in Canada. And I think that's what would happen.

I mean, I was in school as probably a fourth or fifth grader. They actually stopped school when we had to watch Canada versus Russia. It was that big. And now we had Canada versus USA, which is our neighbor. It was probably as big as that.

And to me, it's going to take some, there's going to be some morning up there.

If there's going to be some second guesses, hey, we should have picked this guy over that guy.

Because Canada had so many guys to pick from way more than US did. But US still had their great quantity of players that are so skilled playing in the NHL and over in Europe. They could have picked from. But I just think it, you know, it came down to that.

“And to me, yeah, I mean, this is going to take some time to sink in, I think.”

Great pleasure to talk with you Craig. Thanks for doing this. Best of luck the rest of the way broadcasting. Thank you. Thank you, Man appreciate it.

See ya. Craig Lockham boys and girls, that was great. We will take a break. We will come back with email in Jingle. I am Tony Cornheiser.

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“What was amazing about the restaurant besides its size and popularity?”

It did not take reservations. And you stood behind a table of people eating. And then took their seat when they were finished. I could also remember, 1955 or 56. My family was upstairs.

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Maybe Glenn and Alan can find him a place in the band with Clabo's lung capacity. I'm guessing Trombone. That's the guy that would sprint up the house in skis. Yeah, I have deep admiration for him.

I can graduate him on everything, but it is lost on me.

“Whereas in Norway, he could run for King.”

He could run for King.

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