“Wilbon’s Note”

First, we'll talk to Todd Harris, who gave me such a nice shout out to any Olympics,

and then we'll talk to Matt Barry. ESPN's lead play by play announcer for TGL, but first, commerce. Previously on the Tony corner as a show, Craig grew up in Canada and realized every Canadian kids dreamy played in the NHL. Stayed with hockey and has been on the broadcast crew with Washington capitals forever and ever, and also told my kid he's not good enough to play smokey hockey, which has made us very happy.

Is that me to golf? Right, sent him a golf where he was actually pretty good. This is General George Washington, and you're listening to the Tony corner as a show. I will say for those of you who consume this show, Craig Lockham was at the light. Oh, yeah, he's just wonderful. You know, just wonderful. He comes to it with a, I don't know, a unique perspective, but an interesting perspective.

He's born and raised in Canada and lived the last 40 years of his life in the United States.

“So, a healthy perspective. That's what I thought. That's what I thought. That was really good.”

And he sent me to this tryouts with a second hand uniform. Scates it didn't fit.

I was still using my Toys RS lefty hockey stick. That's my fault that you're not in the Olympic team. But have been a contender. Yeah, you know it. Yes. Okay. Like if you were in gold right now, you know, you could wear gold anyway. You know, you could stand outside the White House and win the show off.

You know, but scramble things that are going to be in gold, you can take some of that. Christopher Repplin and Indianapolis as writing to us. For those of you who also who keep track of what I put on the show, I change books every week. When I'm doing the show from home, I change books, I change backgrounds. I do, you know, I change things. So it's just a golf lag season. Yeah. So it's sort of interesting to you.

“It's interesting to you. And you know, and I put”

Luke Applin sent me a book and it's called Moses in the doctor. I know I know Moses Malone. I knew Moses Malone is not with us anymore. I certainly know Julia serving. I put the book up in the prominent spot. It took over for the last of the president's men. I had Woodward's book up. That's right. And Christopher from Indianapolis says, "I want to thank you on today's episode of PTI in the background. You showcase my cousin's

second book Moses and the doctor following the two players in the 70s and 80s and them eventually

teaming up to win an NBA title, which they didn't fill it off you. For those more interested in baseball, his first book, Our Team, follows the story of Larry Dobby, Bill Vekbob, fellow and social page during the 1940s. Cleveland Indians three months after Jackie Robinson debuted for the Dodgers again. Thank you for highlighting the book and all the years of great sports conversations. It's very nice. It's lovely. Very nice. It doesn't, you know, certain people recognize

certain things. That's nice. So let me get to today's show. How much NBA can we do? On PTI and on this show we're just getting started. We're going to do less NBA on this show than we're going to do on the PTI. Playoffs are just weeks away. Although we do have an NBA guest on Friday. Yes, Brian. Yes, because we love Brian. But we love Brian. We have to know if he's gotten there. Brian, Brian's not going to just talk about who's going to win. That's not what

Brian does. So anyway, yesterday, course at Lead PTI got Mike very excited because he's essentially a slurping press agent from Victor Wembanyama, who, by the way, appears worthy, appears worthy in every way, making the case. San Antonio right now, actually, by beating Detroit into Detroit,

“if you want to wait that game, San Antonio looks like the team that could win the NBA”

championship because they have beaten Oklahoma City for out of five already this year. They own Oklahoma City. So we went on and on about that. That wasn't the best thing about Wilbon yesterday though. That wasn't because Wilbon loves the NBA. The best thing was Wilbon writes a note to me and to Elride home and Keller. Any writes a note saying, I'm watching the combine and there's not a gun to my head. What has happened to me? He's watching the combine on television. Eric points

out it's last year's combine to tape this year's combine does the start until tomorrow apparently. I thought that was hysterical. I just thought that was hysterical. All right, let's get into let's get into what we were really here to talk about, which is weather in the nation's capital. As I said yesterday, we got very, very lucky or not yesterday on Monday. We got very, very lucky that we didn't get much snow at all. I think I had three to four inches in my yard. It's still there, although today,

the temperatures are supposed to rise certainly into the fifties. And so I think much of it will melt because this is not concrete snow, not snow-crete. Much of it will melt and we'll be back to where we were. Yes, 42 in full sun on Saturday. So yes. So it'll all be gone by then. Yes. But there's a butt here. We also have waves of winter weather coming in Sunday night Monday and Tuesday

inches, it's not going to matter compared to what has happened on the east coast. Pretty violent.

Pretty much if you go directly east from Washington, you will hit directly east, you'll either hit Delaware or Ocean City Merrillin, one of those directly east. And they both got bombed. Roboth got 18 inches of snow. 18 inches of snow. You can't. There I was looking at my friend Rick Burrell's referred me to the Cape Gazette, which is a newspaper out in that area, Cape Hennelopen area. They showed pictures of trees down all over the place. Impossible roads all over the place.

“30% of Sussex County, which I think is the largest county by area in Delaware. It's only three”

counties in Delaware. I think it's the largest one by area. 30% of the people in Sussex County

did not have power. Now I wanted to know if we had power. And this was the way this is what I

devise. We can check. Well, I called the company that that does the alarm system in the house and they said they could hear a ping. So they felt that there was still that power there. I also called my friend Mr. Barry, who does all of the Brian Barry does all of the building around us. And I said, well, our house has power. It's right around the corner from our house. And he says on our neighbor up the street, he's got power. And I said, well, how do you know, you're so in your house

and he says, well, no, I'm in Florida. But I called. And he said he thought that my house would have power. And apparently my house does have power. Someone got over there yesterday to shovel the walk.

You know, just shovel one walk, whatever it costs it costs. But it's inundated with snow going further

up the coast. The Jersey coast got 12 to 14 to 16 inches in various places. That's really a lot of snow. And it is nothing compared to Rhode Island. It's Rhode Providence, which is the biggest city in Rhode Island. You measured inches measuring feet. Providence got 37 inches. Warwick got 34 in. That's just an. That's Buffalo kids. Yes. No place for it to go. There's no, what are you going to drop it all in the ocean? What are you going to do with this? Well, it's called to try and see how you melt

the snow as you try and move it to places where you can dump it. Because when you have that much snow on top of what you've already had this winter, there is no place for it to go. No, 20 inches

“on Long Island. You know, that's just a lot of snow. Yeah. So that anything like, would you get six?”

Okay. Then we were looking at like the peak wind gusts. There were 80 miles an hour and a month or month. They almost took the lighthouse down. I mean, four miles an hour. Yeah. It's just, I don't know. And this is, this is a true Northeast. I have to try and slow down. Okay. So, you know, everybody made fun of me when I used the word bombo genesis, which I got from the capital weather gang. They used it actually. It, it, it, it happened. Yeah. It's not us. You don't

even even need the genesis. Just bombo bombo. It's just so much snow. It's unshavillable. What are you going to do? You need heavy machinery to move this around and they will be machinery that they don't have in some of these beach towns. Delaware doesn't have this. Why would you doesn't have this weight for people to concentrate? They're not. They shut the town down. They said,

“don't drive, don't go anywhere. We're home with beach country. Can't be kitchen still closed.”

It's not, I don't think it's, I don't think it's open. Robert's beach, the entire country comes close. That has to be coming. They don't have running water, a lot, you know, I, and they don't have trucks and plows equal to this. No. Because it's, it's not unprecedented, but it's rare. It's rare. You know, you can do four or five inches. And then you know, you also say to yourself, well, we're right on the water. The water doesn't freeze. The ocean

doesn't freeze. Shouldn't that carry some warmth with it into this thing? So if that's the case, they could have gotten more. I mean, maybe they maybe got the low end of what they could. I don't know. I don't know what ocean city got about 16 or 16 city got, let's see, 10 and a half. It says. Wow. So just 20 miles up the road, 18. Yeah. Because how do you say is it lows? Lewis, Lewis, 18, Luz Berlin. Is it Berlin? Is it in Maryland? Yeah. Berlin is where we

rent the planes. Berlin is in Maryland. Berlin is down by ocean city. Oh, that's deck up 22. Point two. That's where we rent the planes like you did this more than once. That's just a lot. Why did it once? It's from Berlin now. You know, no planes are going up. Then the next couple of days over the beach to say, you know, watch out, get tanning oil. No, they're not going up. No. And by the way, the golf, well, you know better than I. I would say, if today is the it's where the at the end of

Bobcats. Um, well, I don't think they play until, until April. No, it'll be it'll be sooner than

that just because you love a couple of warm days. They get rid of a lot of it, but it'll be a while. Yeah. It's going to be sloppy. What it opens. Yeah. Just so that whole winter and we have not for those of you who live near where I live or frequent these places. The last four, five, eight years. You've been able to play all winter. You've been able not last year, but yes, and in previous winters, we had a big culture to play. Yeah. Didn't, didn't tell us about something and come

chat with I got like, no, it's in Russia. 12 feet of snow and people are digging out their cars and the obvious question is to go where they're digging straight down and making a, but making essentially the Holland tunnel to get to their cars, where are you going to go 12 feet? Well, that's, yeah, it's a whole different way. But I mean, that's, that's come chat. That's Russian. They're used to, they're not, maybe not used to 12 feet, but they're used to snow covered every day.

That you won't get as my new favorite thing on my social media algorithm is the revenge snow dump when someone takes your shovel out spot that you see up down the northeast. So I'm not, I don't like this, this, the spot saver. I get it the first 24 hours, but once every day they're after trying dig out an extra half spot for people, when someone takes their spot, they then shovel them back and worse than the original store. People do this. Oh, yeah. It's a hatred. I knew trying to get

it to freeze over. But the chair out, you know, like this is mine and some of your house, but can you get a day? Yeah, yeah, you got like a, I think you get a day. Okay, can you do that, you know, a big city where there's apartment houses? I don't think you can. I think it's, I think if you

“shuffle your feet, you lose your seat, you know, if you move your car in the big cities, you have to”

try and make sure you park in the left side because the plows always push right. Just, it's, it's really

a lot of snow. Yeah, too much snow. You don't think, you don't spend the road, when you think of Rhode Island, you don't actually think, I mean, I'm sure it's more, it's in New England. 37. What in Boston, yeah? Uh, also get like 20, something like that. Yeah, it's crippling. New York got about 18. Boston, I busted 16.9, which is not a new Yorker. Uh, New York, uh, I don't have a total park. I searched about 19.7. That's a lot. Yeah. That's a lot. I mean, that's open. So it's going to,

it's going to pile up. New York got 27, just over 27 nice. New York. Yeah, New York got 37.1. I slipped 31. Newport 34, but the gold medal does go to Providence for 37.9. I slipped is where boomer size and went to high school. Oh, boomer. Yeah, that's, uh, that's a lot. That's a lot. I will take a break. We are, we are doing something today that we don't usually do. We're talking

to people that we've never talked to before, and we hope it works. We're going to talk to Matt

“Barry of ESPN and we're going to talk to Todd Harris. Oh, yes. I think seeing Matt was next. No,”

I'm just saying we're going to talk to Todd Harris at the day. Who shouted us out at the Olympics. So we will take a break and bring Todd Harris in. I'm Tony Cornheiser. Wagner Nicola, as the owner of this game, I'll show you one of the best of the best of the best. No, not at all. As a story, it's like the story with you, but I don't think I can do it. Wow, that's it. That's it. That's all it is. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

This story is the story that you understand. You can't do anything about it. You can't do anything about it. No, no. I don't want to do anything about it. The story is an LED. Safe. With this story, now we're going to test it.

And these are rat boys. And there's our note. Julia from rat boys here, I'm writing you from frigid Chicago where the attempts have plumbed it back to their normal winter positions after a couple of weeks of delightfully above average spring like showings. Anyways, enough about the weather. I'm emailing to share a couple of new songs. We have out in the world from an album we recently released called,

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male thief. And all seriousness, no, this exercise worked really well for me and gifted me with some clarity when writing these new songs. I've included a couple of them to download here. We'd be honored if you played either a both on an episode coming up. We'll be back in DC playing the legendary 930 club next Friday. Not this Friday. March six, rat boys in DC at the 930 club.

The show's getting close to selling out, which is crazy. But if you'd like to come, we'd be happy to put you, Michael Nigel, and Sean on the guest list. No pressure, of course. Very, very nice. Plays in Todd Harris. Now, for those of you

“who don't remember this or darn familiar with Mr. Harris, he was at the Olympics.”

He was working for NBC. And he was doing one of those sort of crazy sports the half pipe, the full pipe, whatever pipe. And he was dealing with a

on this show and on PTI as well. And then Todd said at one point, I'm going to

“translate this from my good friend, Tony, let's play it, play it because”

fabulous. So, translate that from my good friend Tony Cornheiser. That is a five and a half rotation spin off axis with the court. Yep. Simple as that. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. And it's unbelievable that you said that. And then it made me think that that was thrilling for me. You, you actually listen. And we don't know who listens. You listen, right? Absolutely. Big time fan of the show and PTI, of course,

for a decade. And I just feel like with NBC, they've always, you know, make it

relatable to the fans, make it relatable to the common viewers, never seen these sports before. And I literally just went to, well, Tony obviously doesn't understand anything. He thinks he's a made up sport. Right? So, I thought if Tom Wallace could explain it more simple terms, my good friend Tony Cornheiser would understand it and enjoy it much more. Yes. Well, I enjoyed it because I

enjoy sports where people attempt to kill themselves. I just, you know, I like to downhill, you know, that the half pipe, but it is, I'm not saying it's not a sport. It is, of course, made up a lot of things are made up at some point or other. And then they grow into the public consciousness. But

“when you, when you are doing, how did you learn this stuff? Do you do this?”

I do. I do not, I wouldn't dare get into the half pipe. Those walls are 22 foot high walls.

And then it's basically polished marble. It's not snow. It's rock hard. Yes.

I've dropped into a half-type before. I took out a large life insurance policy for hands, but I do not get above the wall. I mean, that's, if you're getting like these guys and women are 15, 20 feet above, you're 40 feet. So, four stories from the bottom. And if you fall, things will go bad. I will drop in. But I'm more of a generational powder, easy, bluebird, nice, runs, groomers as we call them. But I love watching it.

Well, I mean, one of the things I talked about early in the Olympics was the element of danger in the winter Olympics for a different from the summer Olympics. Summer Olympics, the danger is if somebody throws a javlin into your chest, the winter Olympics, these people, if they miss, don't tell me that helmet is going to stop their heads from cracking. They must be terrible injuries in this thing, right? Yeah. There have been some really bad ones,

“fortunately, nothing too serious this go around. But I think someone said it best. The winter”

Olympics are the crazy uncle of the summer Olympics because it's just multiple ways to kill yourself going down a mountain, whether it's on blades or boards or skis. And we had a couple falls. If you Google Nick Geper in the free ski half-type, one of the last guys to drop in, I thought we had, you know, not honestly, I'd probably, but I thought we had a very, very serious injury. And again, he ended up getting up and walking away from it. It's a terrible fall. He's

1250 feet out of the air upside down, rotate back. And he comes down and basically lands on his hip and his back. And then falls down another 20 feet into the half-plight. I thought, oh, we're going to take a break because no, we can't stay around for this. And with in 10 minutes, he was up looking away laughing about it, joking, flashing the peace sign, the love, and all that stuff. So these athletes are amazing. What they do is risk life and limb, the speed, the heights,

and everything they put their bodies through. So I really appreciate it. It is not sticking ball as not mainstream, but I still really appreciate it. But the speeds and the heights, I just, as great a job as NBC does, you just cannot fathom how high and how dangerous and how steep everything is. One of the things I learned about the winter Olympics is you probably have to be crazy to be on the skeleton because your head is going right into the wall. You're not backwards.

If you're frontwards, the other thing that is something that nobody really understands, the

ski jump, which looks like it is the most dangerous thing in the world. They are never more than

about 15 feet off the ground. That's, is it right Todd? That's the one that surprises you because when they lift off, it's not from a great height. It's not like these other dopes who are going as tall as they can. They are to kill themselves. Like ski jumping actually seems safe to me. I know you mean dopes in the kind of way, but the ski jumping is more of a launch outward and they do it so perfectly. They just perfected the art of the body position and the art of flight is what I call

it. But they're not moving. They're not spinning. They're not grabbing. It's just keeping your body as quiet as possible. We always say rolling down the windows because you know when you jump in the air, if you've been on skis and you get launched off a kicker, you're really rolling down the windows, trying to get yourself balanced. They're not doing that. So that is impressive in and of itself. But yeah, I just think the skiing, the snowboard, even the skating, I mean it's just so fraught with

danger and you putting yourself in such peril. But it's like you know, you and Michael Nigel, you know, if you're at a gust in, you're at the first T and it's like, oh, I'm not going to shake this into the crowd. I'm going to hit this in straight up. There's the same kind of fear involved and I think that's what makes these athletes so impressive as they overcome that and they still

You said, I want to talk about these. I'm going to learn it. I want to talk about all this stuff.

“No one else wanted to do it. Everyone wants to do the NFL, the NBA all that stuff. And I think it was”

around the early 90s when I graduated from that fine university in Provea, Utah, where the exports or the extreme sports and the X games were just coming onto the scene. And I remember someone coming to me and say, gosh, you know, you've got a young look about you, you've got enthusiasm, you're going to be sports, you grew up, you know, your California kid, skateboarding, all these things are kind of your niche. So why don't we put you in that? And I just kind of got put into surfing initially

and then snowboarding, jet ski racing, all these different skateboard events. And I just became that, I kind of gradually found my way back to mainstream sports when I got hired by ABC to be Keith Jackson and Dan South sideline reporter for ABC, Pack 10 Game of the Week. And that was a great seven

eight year run. And some of the greatest memories I had was, you know, I called myself Keith Jackson's

Ballet. But learning from someone that says a great broadcaster like him was, you know, I had the opportunity to move back into play by play booth. But I just felt like learning from someone

“is good at him. I'm probably better off right here. Do you do the summer Olympics, too?”

I do. And in a summer, what do you do? The last few years, I skateboarding in BMX, which I know is quite a few hours. Yeah. Well, at least it's not break dancing. You know, that would be. This is true. No rain for me. So, I mean, I was intrigued. People won't know this. You don't, it doesn't sound like it, of course. But you are living in London. What are the opportunities in London? What do you, because the Olympics are two weeks every two years? Come on,

now, you can't make a living on that. What are you doing? No. No. I, so I also, in the play by play,

host for a sailing series called SAILGP, which Larry Ellison has a few dollars in his pocket,

he owns and operates the SAILGP. It's kind of like the formula one of sailing. But this isn't your normal yacht. I mean, this isn't your hey, you scratch my anchor kind of boat racing. This is serious business, eye text stuff. And so I do that from London because during the pandemic, a lot of the countries we went to didn't allow some nations in, because they weren't vaccinated. So, the folks, the power is to be said, you know what, we're going to do it out of London as a

world feed. So, we came to London. And I was traveling back and forth with my home in Salt Lake City every three weeks. And I'm like, you know, I'm not a great air travel. I can do it. But it's the jet lag that it takes me a week to get over the week that I went back. And then it's a week back on the plane. And so my wife and I said, let's just move to London for a summer. We'll just try to London for a summer. Beautiful places, Nigel Old Test. And it's been four years. And so I ended up

going back to school, doing a master's degree in London. And it's just now become a home base. And we have a tiny little flat, but we love it here. And it makes it easy. Because getting back to New York from London, it's a six hour flight, getting back to Salt Lake City, it's a nine hour flight. So, it's not that big of a deal. Can we see this sailing thing on television in the United States? You can indeed. This weekend, we got sale GP from Sydney, Australia. And I can now reveal

something that I probably shouldn't have. But when I was in Levino doing the Olympics, I did probably something that I shouldn't have done that was double dipping because we had an event in Auckland, New Zealand. And I didn't want to miss out because I've missed an event yet. And so I got a bit too in the morning. And from my hotel room in Levino, I called two days of sailing from Auckland, New Zealand for the last two o'clock in the afternoon the next day. So I really

was burning the candle at both ends a couple of days, but I got it done and it was known with the

“wiser. Until now. And are you doing, did you say you were doing basketball as well?”

Yeah, I do the NBA on Prime Network. And what I do on that and you'll understand this, but for the folks that are watching at home or listening on the new channel, it is, I do conceal coverage. So when Kevin Harlan's talking and calling the game, he does the play by play, but when they go to an advertisements or on cameras or they do something, especially in regards to bedding or things like that, the international they don't want that. So they come to us and

it's me and a color analyst and we'll fill for five minutes. And when they go to commercial, they come back to us for five minutes. And we do three in post game for five, ten minutes chunk. So watching the game, but I fill in the commercials and replacing things of that when they go on camera or they do interviews and things that the world fee doesn't really necessarily want. And you went to be why you did, did you did you major in telecommunications? Is this a such

a thing or were you just a regular kid? I was a regular kid planning going to medical school and major in biology until I found out I wasn't really a big fan of blood or making decisions. That wasn't going to work out for me. And I switched, traded my fagio to a broadcaster. I wasn't able to really get school there and they wouldn't even let Steve Young in there. That's off, but it was a great program. And then out of there I got a job as a weekend news anchor

with WBKO, who's center 13, Bullying Green, Kentucky and after that I went to ESPN. Wow. Are there any specific and particular ambitions that you have?

up there in years. I love doing the Olympics. It's every couple of years. People say,

"What's your favorite thing to do now?" And I always say, "Well, the Olympics is one of them."

“Because I think, especially with the winner, it just galvanizes the country. It brings everyone”

together. I don't know if it's because the weather outside is miserable. But people seem to gather around and listen and follow for whatever it's 15, 17 days. And so I really like that. But as I'm getting older, like you, I like to travel less. And maybe just find a set either the voice of the Portland Trailblazers or the Utah Jazz or something like that where it's less all over the place. Because right now, I probably do, I don't know, I say too many sports. Sometimes

I feel like the jack of all trades and the master of nothing. You know, the Swiss Army knife that we don't have anymore for that. Put hair on it. So next week, I'm going to Columbus

Ohio to do the Arnold Schwarzenegger Sports Festival. Don't ask.

What a great event. What? I know, I know. In Columbus, Ohio, what? Yes, the Arnold Schwarzenegger Sports Festival. It's all about fitness sports, bodybuilding, whatever sports they put in there. When you're, they did power slapping with, with Logan Paul. I was on that. So it's just kind of a automation of tons of people that are about getting fit, strength, jack, protein, that whole thing in Arnold's there. And he's such a nice man and so kind,

I couldn't turn it down. Do you know what, do you know what comes from Columbus on this show?

“Jenny's ice cream. Oh, yes. Made in Columbus. So maybe you should find Jenny herself and sit down”

and do ice, that would be a better sport. You just say, all you people want to be fit with Arnold. You go to the left. I'm going to the right. I'm going to Jenny. I'm going to figure it out. I need to ask you, how did you find this show? How did you find it? Your show? Yes. How did you find it? Well, as a PPI fan, and then I have friends with the business in the industry and everyone's like, oh, you did your Tony today. I'm like, I got to get on this

Tony cornhizer program. And so since I've been falling here, so I'd say five years. And so when I get in the morning, Nigel can a test, I go for morning walks around Stanford Bridge and broth and cemetery and take you with me. No. So it's good. You know, today's one of those days in London, Nigel, it's 62 degrees, sunny on my way to Richmond Park for a bike ride after this. Have a, thank you so much for being on the show. And for the mention on the Olympic, which to totally thrilling to me, I hope our pants

cross at some point. Thank you, Todd. Absolutely. Love to come back on any time. Thanks, Tony. Todd Harris boys and girls. That's fabulous. We'll take a break. Matt Barry will join us when we return. Matt Barry, who announces TGL had a long night last night, had two golf matches. I'm Tony cornhizer. You're listening to the Tony cornhizer show. The Tony cornhizer show. Once again, here are the rat boys. And this is called strange love to continue with the story.

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“But why doubt it? I doubt it. But you should go. Thank you, other fans. That's control.”

That's fun. Place in Matt Barry. This segment is brought to you by Fandel, make every moment more. Matt Barry works at ESPN. And the last couple of years since they started TGL, the golf has been the lead voice on the golf. And yesterday, did two separate matches. The first of which kicked us to ESPN too, which we're used to. We're kicked to the curb almost all the time. I assume you're tired, right?

I mean, that's, you know, you had the Duke game in between. Then you had to come back out. That's a pretty long day, is it not? Yeah, we did. First of all, great being with you. We did a double-header Monday. So I did the 2PM Sports Center, the 5PM TGL, the 9PM TGL. And then we ran it back again yesterday, 2PM Sports Center. And then two more TGL matches in between a Duke beat down. So yeah, it's been a two days,

but it's been a fun two days.

I would never do that. I never would work that hard. I like having half of a half hours show.

And then people say, would you like to be on this? I go, no, I wouldn't. No, I wouldn't. I don't want to. I'm going to, I'm going to test my failing memory at my age, but I sort of thought. I sort of remembered that I met you once at a Super Bowl at the run up to a Super Bowl about 10 years ago, and I said hello, and I could have this completely wrong. I thought you said you were originally from Phoenix, somewhere in Arizona. Do I have that right?

Did we ever meet? That is damn good. It was at a Super Bowl party. I believe in New York,

not the fancy part, not North Scottsdale. Just right. Not the original Scottsdale.

No, you're a little Scottsdale. Yeah, back in the old town area, but yeah, that's correct. We met at a Super Bowl party, and then we had a nice chat then. And yeah, Wilburne, he's up north at the new houses, all the rich people of us. Yes, gated community. Absolutely. How did you, you were, you're young now,

“everybody's young compared to me, but you're young now. How did you get to ESPN?”

So I graduated from Arizona State, the Waldron High School. That's for Lindowny. You're in our former editor at the Washington Post, Lindowny, teaches there, and Wilburne and I are, you know, involved with that to some degree. Go ahead. Yeah, so so was went to school there,

and then embarked on my local TV journey, my first job at a college, imagine a kid born and

raised in Arizona taking his first job in small market with constant, so that the NBC station and small market was constant. Right. Just decided that I didn't go to school for four years to be dirt poor doing local news. So I decided to get out for a little bit and moved to California. And I bartended on the beach. He was having a great time and I said, "You know what, maybe I should try this career thing over again." So I got back at a TV. I did,

I had to start all over. I went to Oklahoma. The ABC affiliate out there from there. I went to Colombia, South Carolina, the CBS station. And then my big TV break when I was 29 years old, I got to Dallas, which is market five as a TNBC station. And now I've been at ESPN coming up on 13 years. So the local TV and here we are. So there's a lot of people at work at ESPN, and they don't necessarily break out. They don't necessarily get something that they own. How did you get to TGL? And I have no

idea what the future of, I like, will want hates it. I like it, but I have no idea what the future is, but how did you get there, are you, are you a golfer? Yes, I love golf. I've been on our master's coverage for over 10 years. I did the PGH Championship, growing up in Arizona, hard not to like golf, going to Arizona State, with some of the players we've had to run through there. Well, Phil, it's just hard not to be filled, John Rom, Paul Casey, even there's been so many

good players. So it's just hard not to be a golf fan, and I remember sitting there. And I was kind of the same way I saw when they released tomorrow sports, who puts on TGL, it's a win in door golf, but that was like, what are they talking about? And then I found out that ESPN was going to put it on. I said, you know, let me kick some tires on this and see what it's all about. We've had some good meetings and some good discussions, and the more that I learned about it,

and kind of what it was going to be, the more intrigued that I was, and then I saw the players that were attached. I saw the team owners that were attached. If this is a group of people, that don't like losing and says, you know, what, let's give this a run, and it just ended up

“working out, and it's been great. Do you play? Are you a golfer? I do play. How good?”

Like, what number? Well, once college football season starts, my golf clubs have to go down for the fall. Right. So usually mid mid season, I could, I'm shooting anywhere between a, you know,

79 and 82 or 83. I've never, never in the mid 70s. I don't, I don't flirt with the 90s anymore.

So usually right in the high 70s mid 80s. Well, you can come play with us. You can come play with me in my boy. You know, you can, you can do that. So I have a series of odd questions. These are odd questions, because I did this. I understand how it works. And I always watch to see what you're wearing. Do you have wardrobe prepared? Like, money and I football. They tell you what to wear. You don't fool around. You are given the outfit for that day. Do you have wardrobe prepared for you?

I do. I show up. You're racing. Who's a golf, they make golf clothes and grace and send a bunch of stuff. And I show up wearing. I wear, I wear different stuff for sports and I get ready to say what we wear tonight. And show our, our make up in stylist, Jessica, she'll sit there and she'll be like, well, we're going to do Grayson sent this, this and this. And we'll, we'll put on with Grayson sent it. It's a more casual look. It's a, that typical studio

look that I wear when I'm doing sports in our college football. And they'll send stuff. We'll pick it out and we'll wear it and make Grayson happy for a night. Good. Justin Thomas is Grayson, right? Or is it, shortly as well as Grayson at this point? Yeah, we fight this house. We follow what people, what people, well, I mean, I am one of those people who believes that if you're on

“television in an anchor position, you should wear a tie. This is me. Wilbond says I'm an idiot and”

Wilbond spends, I don't know, 75,000 dollars a year on clothing. So I think we should probably listen a Wilbond, but I, I believe you should dress like an adult. And I know that in golf, that's an

beforehand? Are you talking with them? Or are you just in an isolated host circumstance?

“No, Tony is actually one of my favorite parts of TG. I'll just get to know these guys over the past”

two years because we'll do a standard, well, they're there earlier in the day. So when I get there, to get ready to do sports set of the players are there practicing what we call the shooter round and they're there and shorts and a t-shirt playing the holes. They're going to play that night messing around in the arena. So I get some good time with them then. And then we go to the, but there's a back part of the arena where there's six indoor bays in the back where the

players warm up before the match. There's a, there's a kitchen and there's food and there's drinks, there's all kinds of stuff. There's a hot tub and there's all kinds of stuff these players to hang out.

So we'll go back there before the match, talk with them a bit and then we have a production meeting.

So we go into each team's locker room that locker rooms like a normal sports locker in their name and a stall and then like that. We'll go back and give them kind of the run of show that night, commercial breaks, do's in don't sort of minder about certain rules and then we'll talk with them back there. So we get a good chance to be around them in the relationships and get to know these guys over the past couple of years has actually helped me when I go to the masters and when I do

the PGA champions before a lot of times these guys come on the 2PM sports center with me. So the the relationships that it's built with the PGA tour and these players, I mean it's been one of my favorite parts of doing it. Yeah, so look, I mean I say this all the time. You're hitting a ball into a bed sheet. I mean let's not get crazy. This is indoor golf. It's not real golf, but we're coming off this very exciting west coast swing. Pebble beach, Riviera, everybody knows these

holes. They've seen them their whole lives. A short 7th at Pebble, the 10th at Riviera. You got made up holes like Stinger or Queen Aander, whatever. We've got a lot of things. Yeah, I don't know what it is. How do you deal with that? I mean the notion of real golf as opposed

“to what's going on or in your mind is it's sort of real golf? What this is to me and I think what”

this is to the players is it's a different type of way to compete in the sport that we all love. And the thing that I think the players love about it is it's different. You're right, they go and play some of the best and most historic courses in our country and in the world and in McElroy, Tommy Fleet with these guys are coming over from Dubai and Europe and they get to come in there and it's almost like you get these trained killers that are on the golf course Thursday

through Sunday. They're so competitive. You almost allow them to be young again and go back to the beginning of when they started to play golf and it's in there they get to compete. It's an team setting but they get to have fun. And you mentioned Stinger they're trying to hit it under a rock. Yeah, these guys are so used to every single week. Same courses, the beautiful parts of golf, but then they just get like for lack of a better term get to let their hair down a little bit

and go play and have some fun in front of a crowd. These guys will tell you too to nerves that they get standing over some of these shots and so if I center because of the way it's laid out and how close the crowd is to you. I mean some of the things that some of the durs that they get doing is it's fun to watch because they're completely different out of the course. You bring them inside and let them try this and have some challenges for for what they do every week. It's been fun to watch them

adapt because I'm sure it's first in fact I know it first they were kind of the same way like what

what is this. Yeah, well I remember like when when it first started like people need to understand this golfers have taken this shot the 135 yard shot they've taken it 30,000 times in their life practicing it. They know within one foot of where it is going to land the moment they hit it they know this and I would watch and they would look at the screen and they would they would roll their eyes like what what and then it would be in the water and they go no this isn't possible this

year that has not happened so I'm assuming that the technology has gotten more exact. The technology

“has gotten better at the adjustment of the players has gotten better I think the first three or”

four weeks last year they thought they're the world's best that could come in and just dominate the place and then they figured out oh wait it's a game like I've got to learn how to play this actual game that's different than the game I play outdoors when when we changed the hammer rules and made a couple adjustments it kind of clicked with them like oh this is how you do it it's entertaining yes it's it's it's it's TV let's it's TV kids yeah it's a TV show yeah

and and you mentioned kids and this is why I think it's really hit with them how good this is

kids hate golf but they love TGL because it's it's a video game look at what these kids understand so

“now what happens they love watching TGL they might end up laughing at something zander shawfully or”

Justin Thomas say well what does that do now tell me because they were entertained by zander or jt at a Monday or Tuesday now they want to know what jt or zander are doing on a Thursday Friday or Saturday and it kind of gets them into the real world I understand that I love it me personally two things I love when they hit it in the water makes me very happy and when they miss a pot because the rest of us miss puts all the time and they miss a mat they miss a lot of pots they do

they're not rolling them in from 30 feet like Rory did on 18 at Riviera you're not seeing that in indoors right no I trust me they'll tell you about it too they'll let you know this is not happy with how many put their missing on our green so yeah you know but it does it I don't want to say humbles on but it makes them do things they're not used to doing and for guys like

“us that's that's fun to see are they trying really hard do you think or they just do they”

understand note we're here to put on a show but we're not going to really try really hard oh no no no I I he because they're miced up so I hear everything they're saying okay and they that once it gets to a certain part of the match like last night's match was getting like a couple of matches were close the last couple of days and it would get what you get into singles most traditional match play the tenor of the match completely changes

that is what's goofing around is that is what's talking they get serious they want to win they get angry when they missed up to get excited when they make stuff and so they flip that I mean they flew back from Riviera you know like that night in order to play in order to play on Monday I got to ask this because it's crazy not to I watched it live when the albatross with Justin Rose and I you know yes Oberg had a hole in one or something like

that and that other kid nick somebody rather had a hole in one did they count that as a hole they hit it into a sheet did they count that as a hole in one or an albatross do you so okay so that I love the question because everyone asks that when when it happens or it's

on social media just Justin Rose says he has never had one in his career and then hit that one

which is why he was so excited about it because he's never done it you saw the reaction of Neil ship Lee yes I know who he was yeah it's great yeah these so these guys again like that's natural excitement these guys are good enough to be actors and so you're getting the natural excitement out of him we asked Ludwig about it in the locker room last night pre-match like well you're going to count that what he's going to do is like well he goes he was acting my second

shot at it and so I guess we'd call it a par and we all sort of laugh and so my excitement just did tell us the story if they're excited about it and they think that they got the albatross which they did on the game if they want to count it hell let him count it so what does success look like with this television show do we see it for one more year three more years is there something that the PGA tour says that sanctions it and says this is part of our

rotation this what we're going to do what a success look like well we have another franchise coming next year to Detroit based franchise I know that the money that's invested in this from Steve Cohen to John Henry to Alexis O'Haney is a big money people the big money they just don't like investing the stuff that fails and so with tiger attached with worry attached we may or may not have some big news coming out this week about another player I mean that look I think success

is this continues to go on and grow the game in a in a bigger way there's been talk of building another facility out west I mean we're just kind of kind of it's almost a year by year thing

“we're bringing in another team so their players can get in and so Tony I think success is you”

just roll this thing out at another team maybe go from six to eight teams and continue to just

watch it grow a little by little I always laugh when they say go get a hat you know buy a hat

from TGL and they show all the logos and I go you people nuts this is golf you want to have a hat from Augusta what are you talking about but I mean that so are you enjoying it then like this is something is good for you I love it because you you know it's like when you when you are part of the PTI when it launched years ago when you're a part of a startup it's so hard to find a startup in this day and age and TV I mean I've been doing sports in a for 13 years it's been

around since 1979 that's not changing but when you get to do something that you're not sure if it's gonna succeed or fail from the very first night that's why I love it and I love it because I get

I get to see the looks on these kids faces when rather players goes and tosses a ball to them

it's like wait a second as you keep saying we there's a league where they hit it into a sheet

with world class technology it just continues to grow to be a part of that from day one it's it's been fun it's different than anything that I do I will say that you know having been there live and thankfully not having to answer the first question that I was supposed to be asked when I said no no we're not gonna talk about that let's just talk about this it's I think it's a better TV show than alive event I think it works better on television because there's a lot

of breaks you know there's a lot of dead time as people go back and forth from one side to another

“but I think it really I find it really works on television the only thing that I would almost insist on”

if I was programming this is let's not have you know dead people do it like you have to engage

with the other golfers you have to be you know you you have to jump up and down a little bit you

have to understand this is unlike what you do to make a living this is a this is a television show making entertaining or they talk I assume that's why you get the players you get yeah the players understand I mean you're one it was guys trust us yes you have a mic on the whole time you're going to be going out over TV but we're going to protect you you're not going to say anything it's going to hurt your yeah you're there partners yes of course right so they learned to trust the

season one this year they're coming out of their shells more and the thing that I love and you being a golf and we'll love this too sometimes we we will hear them just talking to each other about things that they learned on the golf course the week before and so for the hard court golf nerds like the you know the anti-TGL like Wilbon it'd be hard for him not to love a clip of Tommy Fleetwood telling Justin Rose what what's harm and told him two days ago oh yeah and you're sitting

you're like oh my god this is fascinating and so you get a little bit of everything you get them being goofy you get them talking hardcore golf you get tiger woods when he's there talking to some of these younger players on his team and he's they're picking his brain and he's giving them advice I mean it really kind of is an ecosystem for everyone who loves golf and those who

“were trying to get to get into the game you should you should use more that you should use out”

takes you should say to the players what we're going to protect you but this is the stuff that will bring more viewers in the inside stuff will bring more viewers in anyway that thanks thank you very much for being on I do watch and and I appreciate your time thanks Matt Tony any time you'll all go fire couple 82's are a local golf course yeah mine would be about 102 don't that very boys and girls this segment has been brought to you by fan dual

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you walked into church I was contemplating watching on my phone but I wasn't having it so I was

sitting there I consider that maybe karma is work after all I had missed the last U.S. win so

maybe missing this one will result in a U.S. victory fortunately someone got the result to the priest who was able to work the final scoring to a sermon to a round of applause that's that's good well done here's the last segment have you talked to Alson's that game just since yesterday's game no no I haven't I should call out I have not um he would have loved to call that came out from Gus and South Glen's Falls New York not just Glen's Falls

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