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You know, I think the primary catalyst for me doing this was I believe we are losing our culture and our heritage as a people, that's my honest belief. And I believe it's not just in Iowa, it's across the country, but when I look around and see people that we're running for office, it was all about policy.

You know, about here's this tax rate or, you know, this regulation needs be changed and I thought no one is standing up to say we have to get the culture right first.

“We have to step in and say what does it mean to be an American? What does it mean to be an I1? And are the traditions in the heritage and the value of our ancestors important to us?”

And that's the, in the deepest part of my heart, what motivates me and something like this, I actually don't want to be a politician, I bet. I've not had interest in it, you know, I spent a lot of my life in the private sector and building schools and I have a pretty good life, I have a great family and wife who loves me and supports me. But, you know, in 1850 my family came over from Germany and great, great grandpa built our farmhouse and we had that same house on this piece of land in Iowa until 2005.

And my great grandmother passed away and I can still remember my grandma called me and she said, "Zack, you wouldn't want anything to this old farmhouse would you?"

And I had, you know, graduate from high school in Iowa, I was often college and I said, "No, I'm, there's something better out here. I'm, I'm off to get something to find something better." And then, a number of years later I was driving by to see my other great grandmother who lived in 103 and I drove by the old farm and I just drove up, I said, "Hey, can I take a look around?"

“And they said, "Yeah, I said, you know, my great, great grandpa built this, he was a third class passenger on the SSW Island coming from Hamburg, Germany as a 14-year-old. He was in the storage, that's why he traveled over to America.”

And he became a carpenter and then earned enough money to buy the farm and build it with his uncle. And I said, "Hey, if you're everything about selling it, please let me know." And I just didn't think anything coming to that time, but a couple years later they called me and said, "Hey, we're going to sell this farm, what do you want to make?" Yes, I don't know how I'm going to do it, but I end up scraping together enough money to get an FHA loan down payment. And I bought the farm and then since that time in 2014, I've been working to rebuild it and restore it and he's the house to there, house is still there. When I bought it, it was covered in vinyl, it had been completely changed on the outside.

Yeah, 150 years the long time. Yeah, and being completely changed the outside, but I went to my dad's cousin Peter and he just kind of had the repository of great-grandmas photos. And so I got this palette of boxes of photos. And I spent, I'm not getting hundreds of hours going through photos. And I was looking for every photo I could find as a whole farmhouse. And I'll tell you, to anybody who wants to be radicalized on what we've lost as a culture, spend that much time going through your great-grandmother's photos. And you'll realize the community, the traditions, the pride.

I've done it. A lot of it's gone. It's unrecognizable. Unrecognizable. And so I did that. And I found every single picture I could find and I put the house back together, or by board, counted every single piece of sighting, make sure it matched. And now we live in the home that was built by my great-great-grandfather. And I tell you, well, I didn't do that, so I could run for governor. I mean, I started doing this over 10 years ago. I did it because I wanted my children to understand their story.

And that, their heritage and their culture, what built them, the man who built this house, who I bet hoped someday my kids would live in it.

Yes. But knew he would never meet them. That story matters deeply.

“And so that's what really got me into this. You know, I was not looking to run for the seed.”

And as I was talking to my wife about this, the current governor of Iowa, who, by the way, has done a very good job. I mean, we're likely other than Florida, maybe the most concerned states and she's done a great job at that. You did a nice person. Yeah. You know, when we were looking at this, my wife said, you know, the seed hasn't been opened in 20 years. And there are issues in our state that are not dealing with taxes that are not dealing with regulations that are systemic deep issues that are really causing our people to be hurt.

So that's why I'm running.

So you said there are systemic issues that are not included in the normal pallet of politician concerns which will be taxes in regulation.

“How just in order of importance can you go through a few of them?”

Well, I think, you know, I've spent my life in large part as an entrepreneur and businesses organization have run or started. I have key metrics that I'm tracking to know the health of my, my companies or the health of the organization. And you know, I think I think on that list for a state is the physical climate of it. That's no doubt that's part of it. I can people afford to live here. Yes. That's a big part of course. But the other, there's other deeper issues that I think are more long term and focus that we, you know, because of this like constant news cycle of what's happening right now.

That we all respond to, which thank God I'm not running for a federal office because it's like never ending and always changing.

But because of because of that often we're distracted or our eyes are taken off the ball purposely from the big issues and a couple more of this. I was number four in the nation for net out migration of our kids 25 to 29. You know, how can you build a state if you're people leaving. Important people. Yes. Yes. We can talk about that. Another one would be, you know, 25% of our farm lands now owned by out of state investors and funds that don't live in our state. Our farmers who have had this ancestral connection to the land are now becoming tenants again, something we left Germany large part four.

You know, just take a side quest here for a second. I remember when I was doing all that research in my family, I understand a lot about the history and and what drove them to leave this homeland of theirs.

Because I was made up, you know, 35, 40% German immigrants came over very industrial people very family oriented people people that had pride in the work that they do.

Objectively some of the best people ever I would I would say that I'm not one of them, but I just I just have noticed. Big on tradition and and and big on family and a lot of pride in where they came from.

“What would motivate people to leave and you know, I think the common answer we always heard was, well, it's religious persecution.”

So I started to get interested in this just understand more what were the real conditions and I actually found out that, you know, my family, a lot of Germans came over around 1850. Well, 1848 in Germany. There's an attempted revolution across across Europe, yes, and it was called 48ers and what did they want? Well, they wanted to be able to own the ground under their feet. They weren't free speech. They didn't like slavery. They had a lot of these, you know, now what we call Western ideals was the end of feudalism.

Yes, right. And so what happened to them, they were defeated. And so in Germany when they defeated minimum got exiled and then many others just left. Well, what state came online in 1846 was Iowa and it was also very agrarian just like where they came from. So many people came over and and I like to talk about this that, you know, one of the key points in Iowa's history that I'm most proud of is how I once responded during the Civil War. So, you know, we had the Missouri Compromise, we had the Kansas Nebraska Act.

And with that, with that decision of, you know, they sort of get to decide whether or not they're going to be free slave. There was a lot of wealthy, land-owning elites that were rushing to the Midwest, try to lobby to create slave states, of course. And this Iowa-and-tations on the prairie. Right. And Iowa's not a part of this, you know. But one of my favorite stories in 1860 when the governor of Iowa is named Governor Samuel Kirkwood. He was on his plow in his field when a messenger from the Department of War brought him a message on horseback to him.

And then at the president said he needed to put together a company of 750 troops to be ready in two weeks. And you might mind, you know, this is 15 years after Iowa became a state where we're in our infancy.

“And he said 750 troops in two weeks, how can that be done?”

In two weeks later, 10,000 islands had signed up. By the end of the Civil War, more islands fought in the Civil War than any other state per capita.

And they fled that, left everything. And they were saying, this isn't going to happen here.

“So I think when you talk about land, and you talk about now 25% of our land is now owned by people that don't live in our state.”

They're not contributing to our communities. They don't go to the football games. They're not shopping on Main Street. It's a real generational issue, and I go to these auctions. I've been against many of these people land auctions. Oh yeah. And very often, it's a farm management company, the actual owner, we don't know who they are. We actually don't know who owns our land in Iowa. There's not human level disclosure that's required. So you can own land in LLC, and that LLC could be wholly owned by a trust, and all the state knows is that the LLC owns a land.

“That's it. And so we've got this place where just common courtesy or just common tradition of knowing who your neighbors are is not there anymore.”

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Because I would bet that it's actually more than 25% of our lands. And then another one. By the way, if you don't have to bear the consequences of your actions, then you're much more likely to exploit and degrade the community that you're taking money from.

“Why wouldn't you care about long-term best practices you don't? You're just extracting wealth. This is the spiritual part of this discussion, I believe. You know, I was my father was a 30-year conservationist in a pastor.”

And I grew up learning to love and appreciate the place. I said this before, but he legitimately made me believe that every sunset was made for me by God. He would be driving and say, "Look what God made for you." And I still think of those things this day of just like those little pieces that made me appreciate creation. And one of my favorite clips from your show ever, ever, is when you're on with Bobby Kennedy.

It makes me emotional thinking about it. I couldn't agree more. I sent that to so many people and especially my father because it's true and it's language we don't use anymore. It brings you to a higher place and it helps you understand, like, this is much deeper than just who owns a piece of land or what's happening.

It's actually like, we are connected to God through the land, through his creation and it's on every page of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation. There's a lot of nature.

“What's the Garden of Eden filled with trees, rivers, animals, and all the parables?”

So that's a systemic issue. And let me say that that's been going on for a long time and nobody's really talked about it. You go to a cafe every farmer's talking about these things about, like, how do you see that we had a piece of land in northwest Iowa, we should go for $32,000 an acre, not development. Okay, I'm interested in land, I'm interested in land, I'm interested in land, I'm interested in, you know, and all that. How do you get to $32,000 an acre, even for, you know, famously productive farmland, like, what is that? What's the potential return on that? How did that happen?

Well, let's just say commonly we'll go to $20,000 an acre. That's fairly common in northwest Iowa. It's some of the best land in the world. It is, it is. And so, you know, look,

outside investors look at Iowa as a great investment because it's a solid asset. Yes, a hedge against the dollar, and you get a dividend, like you rent up the land, like, oh, and so, one of the things I kind of complain, or I'll pine about a lot, is that our land is in an asset class. It's actually was meant as the inheritance for the sons and daughters of our state to build their lives, the communities and their families.

“And when they're tenants on that land and they're paying high dollar rent, because the only way you can justify high price like that is very high rent.”

You're stripping away a lot of go back to say it's like kind of the spiritual aspect of this, and that land is best when it's owned and formed by the same person. We know this. We know this from, if you own rental properties, where am I being? Like, there's a connection of stewardship that comes with that to know that I'm passing this piece of ground on to my grandkids and their kids and their kids. And that's what it should be. But that, that is being actively taken away in our state. It's a two other things that I think are big systemic issues that are on my scorecard, as I'd say, is one is our farmers are actively being exploited by big ad companies. When I was growing up born in Iowa,

“we had over 300 seed and input companies, you know, fertilizer and agrochemical companies that were selling to our farmers.”

Today, that number three, that control 85% of the market. Over 90% of seed technologies owned by two companies. One saying to, actually, it's bear in court have a own 90% of this. What do you want to say? I don't know. See technology. I of course, but I forgot that months into doesn't actually exist anymore, doesn't? I don't think so. It changed the name. Yeah, it was bought by bear in Germany. Yeah, they're, they're, they're, they're mentioned a lot in court still, but yeah, they're not, they're not a company, but so,

if you look at the long-term trend that anytime there's a rise in commodity prices, these input costs go up even though there's not a court direct correlating factor.

You know, there's a study out of the University of Illinois, and this study compared the cost of farming in Brazil to the cost of farming in Illinois, Iowa, basically.

And if you're saying that the three big companies in America that provide these inputs are also the same three big companies Brazil, bear, court heavens, and gentah. That study said that for growing corn using the same application rate that they're charging Brazilian farmers about $150 less per acre than they are, Iowa farmers. How? Well, the real answer is because they're an uncheckment-opylene competition doesn't exist. There's tacit collusion, but here's how it actually works. They have what they call regional base pricing, but what it really is is this, when they look at their pricing, they base it on the yield that you're going to create.

So let's say you have more productive land, even though using the same amount of product, they're going to take more. You have less productive land, even though you use the same amount of product, they're going to take more. It's, it's wrong, you know, and I will, I'll give credit to Brook Rollins and Donald Trump in the administration.

Because they're taking every dollar they possibly can, and we're already on life support.

I mean, many, many most farms are operating at the loss right now, and when you talk to farmers about this, you do not, I can't emphasize this enough, you do not hear them talk about tariffs, they're not. Matter of fact, the price of soybeans this year with the tariffs was higher than it was last year before the tariffs. The change came that the cost of growing went up in the cost of the input products that they're using went up. I tell people all the time the tariffs are not the issue. We have to get this unchecked monopoly in check, in under control.

Obviously, inputs are essential to agriculture or to any creating anything. One of them is diesel fuel, not a lot of movement there, but then you have the products that you just mentioned seeds and fertilizer.

“Taking out seeds, let's focus on fertilizer. What are the products like?”

I mean, it just depends on the most common product for fertilizers in hydrosamonia. It's used in the fall. It's where a lot of nitrogen comes from.

But then you have other products that are, you know, product from earth, potassium, potash, those things. But you look at the trend of the pricing in these. I think it was five years ago, and the past five years, nitrogen fertilizers went up 150% in the price of cornstown 2%. So farmers are, they're really being, I would say, extorted in this process. You obviously want to sleep well and fashionably Brooklyn betting can help. Here, TCN, we take sleep time seriously, try to get eight hours. And a lot of people here cannot help rave about their Brooklyn betting mattress.

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Moment, I check this code. Oh, huh, Homer is awake. Bring them to me for a hundred and fifty euros more a year. Yeah, right, but how do you know what? Why? Why do you want to show your performance? That's just the story for all of you. I don't know, but I was running on a forum in November before Thanksgiving, a big, big, big working farm. And I was with the ranch manager and I'm in a truck and he said this is a truck we used to spray round up. And I said, people were choosing round up. I don't know, you know, I'm not in the ag business. I thought round up was bad.

Again, I'm very ignorant, but I just thought, I didn't realize if people were still spraying round up. He said, oh, everyone sprays round up like everybody does.

“And we kind of don't talk about it. I'm like, I mean, is that I'm not attacking round up specifically, but like are we sure that these chemicals are all safe?”

Well, you know, well, round up is the most highly used herbicide in history of the country or this is the world. Because it's so effective. I mean, I've seen it. But if it's losing its effectiveness greatly, it has to be, you'll have different mixtures now that will go in because they're, we're getting round up resist or life is eight resistant weeds.

It's limited by nature. It's limited by nature. And new products are coming out, but I will tell you this, when you talk about safety of products, well, let me back up and just talk about the companies. I mentioned the three big companies that are controlling the ag input market, Bayer Court Heavens, and there's other ones. But Bayer is a German company.

Yes. Court Heaven is an American company. Top shareholders are BlackRock, Vanguard and State Street for that company. But Sanjenta is a wholly owned state enterprise of the Chinese government, actually, 100%.

So, about somewhere on the end of five million acres in our state has chemicals and seed technology from a company that's a wholly owned company.

The company of the state of China, the country of China. So, I mentioned that to say this, if you talk to farmers about some of these products, and, you know, like it's a lifesaver around up is, you know, very ubiquitous he used. But if you talk to them about products, even many of them will use anymore. You'll get to products like Paraquad. Paraquad is actually, it was really, really formulated by Sanjenta.

There are quite was used in anti-drug spraying in Latin America. It was very controversial for that. And it'll burn down plants in a matter of hours. But, but if you're exposed to Paraquad, your chance of Parkinson's doubles. Matter of fact, actually, oh yes, Parkinson's.

There's people, if you know something you don't want to get.

And if you go and X and you type in and you just like look at Paraquad, you'll find stories of farmers who just will not use anymore. They'll tell stories of, you know, spraying it and immediately getting like, or that day getting like uncontrollable body noses. It's, it's a very, very harsh product.

“And it's still spray, I think the estimate, the best estimate is about 300,000 acres of land and Iowa uses product.”

This product is actually used in research settings in mice and rodents to induce Parkinson's. Are you being serious? I'm 100% serious. And our EPA, and this is where the big issue lies. Our EPA still allows it.

So if we're talking about like, are these products harmful? Like, we can get into that more, but yes, we know. If it doubles your chance of Parkinson's, you're going to have to explain the upside to continue selling that product. selling that product. I mean, my instinct is like, well, you've been that today. That's the thing. And I think this is what people, Parkinson's.

Parkinson's. Parkinson's. That's true suffering. Yeah, it's, it's a sentence you don't want, no. But when you, you, you can research this.

You're, let's just can research this. It is used to induce Parkinson's in research settings.

“I mean, so, so when I talk about these products, you know, I think what farmers want”

is to understand the truth. To like know that their government is telling them the truth about these products, he was. But as with many other things, the corporate captures so heavy. And so when you talk about glyphosate or glyphosate-based herbicides, roundup is one of them. There's many glyphosate-based herbicides.

The EPA study this for years, we know way more than we've ever known about this. And we also know that there are significant risks associated with its use. And so, for example, one of the most known cases is the case of the groundskeeper in California,

the first major lawsuit against Monsanto.

And this was a, a man who was, his job was to work for the school districts in spray glyphosate. And the hose broke on his, on his, a pack on his, in his little cart, and it end up showering him with this product. And in a matter of months, he had lesions all of his body.

“And he sends emails to Monsanto asking, what should I do here?”

I mean, they're very like, I need help. Like not, I'm trying to blame you. He's like, what do I do to solve this problem? Well, if you fast forward in that trial, the, when they were in the discovery process, the judge agreed to make a large portion of the discovery confidential, meaning that

it wasn't, you know, wasn't to be released. But the plaintiffs could challenge something or request the disclosure of it. And they could request a meeting confer to talk about him. And they requested it at one point.

We're not going to disclose anything else.

“But then there's, do I get to do that next time I get sued?”

Go away. Go away. And so, but there's a stipulation there that said, if they didn't, if Monsanto didn't, put in there another request, continue the confidentiality within 30 days, that the confidential is waived.

They forgot to respond. And so now we have millions of pages of documents called the Monsanto papers, millions. And in those documents, it is an absolute masterclass in corporate capture. To the effect of, you know, that email that he sent to the company, they opened it, they read it.

They forwarded it around what should we do here, and they just didn't respond to him. A man who was like hurting, who was of the initial email and covered in lesions from your products, what should I do? What should I do? Yeah.

Basically, it's asking for help.

They've read it, forwarded it around. What do we do with this? Nobody responded to him. And there's, he sent to those emails. I believe it's, too.

“But in there's also things like, there was a time in place where another governmental body”

was going to be doing a study on the safety of glyphosate or roundup in this case. And the EPA official that Monsanto was working with at the time got wind of this. And in the email with the Monsanto official, he's recounting his conversation with this EPA official. And in it, he said, this, the official said to him on the phone, he quotes it in the

email, if I can kill this, I should get a metal. And he did.

He prevented this other governmental body from doing their own independent research on

the safety and effectiveness of glyphosate of roundup. Come on now. This is real. This is out there. This is 2000.

This is the regulator. Yes. It's so, this is out there. And other, I agree just examples of it. And I say this to say this very often I'm talking to farmers who I love, where my friends

and my neighbors and my family, and I am one of them, we actively farm our own land. I work with young farmers to help them have an opportunity to be on land, we share crop. But I'm in there. I'm doing this. The most common common I get from people is if it wasn't safe, they wouldn't let me

use it. And I'm just here to say, that's a lie. It's like they were captured during COVID in the medical establishment, captured agencies, just like Bobby Kennedy is fighting right now and Donald Trump is fighting right now. These agencies have been captured for a long time and they've been lying to the consumers

about the safety and efficacy of their products. And my whole goal here, I'm not here to sit and say we should ban X, Y or Z. That's not what I'm talking about. I mean, I think there's certain things like paraclawed. Probably should not be used.

I mean, double should have been used of Parkinson's like hard no, hard no. It shouldn't be used. But what I want is good science. So farmers can say, do I want to use this product? And we can say, should this product be allowed?

And also, if I'm going to use this product, this is how it should be used.

“And when you have commercials, we know how life is at interest of the bloodstream.”

We know that if it's on your skin, about 30% enters your bloodstream. About 10% of that is through cardiac output, about 10% goes into your bone marrow. In bone marrow, life's at disrupts the replication of hematopolex stem cells. They're in their differentiating from red to white. It's genotoxic.

There's 50 studies that show this. Like we know how it happens. And yet there's commercials showing people using this products in flops and shorts, just saying like, be cavalier about it. We have many products we use.

You go into my shop at the farm. There's many products in the shelf that if they're used improperly or bad for your health. And they warn about that on the label. These do not, not in that same way. But in these papers, we're also examples like this.

In 2000, there was a study called the William Study. It's the most cited study on the safety of glyphosate, the most cited, 99.9% of all papers that cite the safety of glyphosate, cite the study. Last month, that study was retracted because it was found that Monsanto executives wrote it. wrote the study.

But here's maybe even the worst part, we found that out in 2017 and it was retracted in 2025. The Monsanto executive actually said, when he's sending this back, he better not have any revisions. That's what he said. So look, I think oftentimes when you talk about the subject, especially in my home state,

And like, I'm the exact opposite of that, I can tell.

“I actually think that wokeism is a mental disorder that's trying to destroy our country.”

Of course. And then we have got to fight to protect our culture, our people, our heritage. But I also believe that our government has been captured in a large part. And this is one of the most egregious examples. It's really simple.

If you, you know, why do you love the country? One of the reasons you love it is because if it's physical beauty, the landscape, I mean America is great because it's got great people and because it's inherently great, just beautiful. And anyone who's dispoiling nature is an enemy of the country.

Super simple. Anyone building ugly buildings, spring poisonous chemicals. Those are our enemies. Not our friends.

I don't think it's complicated at all.

And that's not the liberal position. The liberals are the ones who are putting solar, you know, bulldozing trees to build solar farms. Yeah. Let's just be clear about what this is.

It's an aggressive coordinated effort to defile God's creation by people who hate God. Not hard. Abortion is directly related to building strip malls. Sorry. They're both destruction of beauty and of God's creation.

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“They're looking to say like look, number one, many of these guys would like to try different”

things but when you're operating a razor thin margins, the idea of trying a new method of farming is not that appealing because like what if it doesn't work and I actually can't you know, keep the farm next year. And so these are our people that enjoy hunting, enjoy fishing, enjoy nature, want to be outdoors.

Like this is our culture. That's what we like. And you're right, like, and we are the environmentalists, like obviously you're the people that want to keep that and keep God's creation. Bernie Sanders spends a lot of time outside.

You think AOC can identify a tree species. I mean, these are people who are rejecting nature, rejecting beauty, rejecting anything that is natural and pure and trying to defile it. That's their program. Well, and they've been completely captured by this, like this religion of carbon, but it's

insane. And so carbon is not, I'm, by the way, admitting it right now, carbon is not the problem. Carbon is the basis of life, problem is man-made poisons. Yeah. So how's the health?

Okay. So I was still primarily in agstate, obviously. Yeah. We are, we are, absolutely. We are a bag at all.

None of the uncounted. Yes, correct. Ag is the largest industry and kind of come to the last point, if that score kind of mentioned to you, it's like, we have the fastest rate of new cancer of anywhere in the history of human civilization.

What? Yes. Can you repeat that? The fastest rate of new cancer of anywhere in the history of human civilization. Iowa?

Iowa. Iowa. Matter of fact, if you live in one of the top counties for cancer in our state, they're all rural counties, your lifetime chance of getting cancers one in two. And if you take, Iowa's a whole, and you compare it to, say, a state like Nevada, Nevada,

actually, it's fairly low cancer rates. And any given year, that is the highest smoking rate out of 50 states, but one of the lowest cancer rates. Iowa has very low smoking rates, very low smoking rates relative, certainly to Nevada,

I'm just, just not a scientist, I'm just noticing, I just, I picked Nevada, because

“I needed to pick a state that I was like, look, you know, that is the highest smoking”

rate in America. Look it up. So, if you choose to live in Nevada, over Iowa, and any given year, your chance of getting cancer is 40% less.

I have, why have I never heard this 40%?

If you take the top county for cancer in our state, and you compare it, 70% less. Actually, actually, it is the top county in ad county. Oh, yeah, absolutely, yeah, it's not to morning, no, no, no, actually there's lower rates of cancer. I mean, per capita, of course, in those, in those places, for real, in your population

centers, they've never been cancer. It's the top 10 counties are all real counties. So, you can say that people who are spending the day outside getting physical exercise 12 months a year, when those people have higher cancer rates than someone working in a cube in Des Moines, then you start to think, maybe there are external factors we should be

looking at.

You know, as I've brought this up, I find myself, this is so interesting.

I find myself with a genuine care, because, like I said, I'm not trying to tell farmers how they have to farm, I don't not try to tell everybody they have to farm like me. Like we run to a gentleman farm, lots of it's organic. My goal is to help Iowans live longer healthier lives, help farmers make more money, and help kids stay on farms for longer.

That's the farmers who are being abused here, they're the victims here. 100% of the ones getting cancer, that's 100%, and that's, you know, and I'll talk to farmers about this, or I'll talk to people that you maybe are a big in the egg community. And they hear these talking points, they'll say, like, applicators of these products have lower cancer rates.

And they're not wrong, that's actually an accurate statement, meaning farmers in general as a whole can have lower cancer rates. But when you hone in specifically on non-Hodgian's, lymphoma, leukemia, they have much higher cancer rates. The lifestyle of the job is going to give you more exercise, it's going to put you out.

And so, there are these things at lower, but you hear these industry talking points about, like actually there's lower and total, like, yeah, but your chance of getting these specific cancers linked to these products is much higher. And so, even with the rate of cancer in our state, you know, I'm in a governor's race right now, and even with the rate of cancer, I say, there's not one person talking about

these things that I'm talking about right now with the likely causes of the cancer in our state. We hear things like fear, you'll be attacked as a liberal for bringing this up. I fear most, that isn't a fear, but most, I think that the ag associations, especially ones are not member-driven, you know, are constituted by actual farmers that take large

checks from the companies that I'm mentioning right now, I think the most likely scenario that everybody's warned me about is they're just going to come and try to destroy me. I'm literally here because I could get into tears thinking about the people that I know that have gotten cancer. My own father got it.

He was a crop consultant, so his job was to go into fields, check for pests. We used, I used to do this with him as a child, so I had a lot of fun doing it. He'd read a report, and he'd bring it back to the farmers, and this is part of his job. He did it very well, and this is just the norm, it's what you did. He'd recommend, this is what you should apply.

He did that for over two decades, and he was diagnosed with one of these exact types

“of cancer, and that's what really, I think, rolled was he.”

He was 60, howlch. Well, Tucker, this is maybe worrying. Thank you. He's in remission now, thank the Lord, but this is where I think this is home, spiritually, too, is that I think I once, in myself included, about three and a half months ago, I went back

to my hometown that I grew up in in Iowa for the funeral of my best friend from high school for his father. He died of dead of cancer again in the 60s, and I tell people, like, I don't know how many more of these funerals of men and women in their 60s. I can go to when their parents live to be 80, like we're losing the wisdom of entire generation

of people and we life expectancy goes down, it's not progress. Oh, so I tell people, and this is the more the political way to say it, look, we can have

amazing, I haven't told people, I'm not running for office because of policy, I'm

“running because of culture, and they say, well, what does that mean?”

And I'll say, look, ask every public and in dearborn Michigan, how much he cares about his tax rate, or does he care that the Muslim called a prayers on the loudspeaker five times a day, and he doesn't know where he's waking up anymore, and his culture

We have to protect our culture, our founders intended that to be the case. We have a huge amount of talk about founders, primarily it comes to fiscal issues and things like this.

“We forget that, I think I was John Adams and said something along lines of, public view virtue”

is dependent on private virtue, in public virtue is the only foundation of a republic. So we hear these things, and this is a bit of a tangent here, a Tucker, but I've had to have a bit of a realization on this and understand better what's going on because I grew up in an era where libertarian thinking was very pervasive, who's all of the voice, I agreed with much of it, and there's still things I do agree.

I was a fellow at the Keto Institute, so you don't need to apologize to my presence now, I know what you mean. Well, what's that long ago that many Americans thought they were inherently safe from the kinds of disasters you hear about all the time in third world countries, a total power loss, for example, people freezing to death in their own homes.

That could never happen here, obviously it's America.

People are recalculating, unfortunately because they have no choice the last few years have

“taught us that, or would the power grid in Texas failed in the dead of winter?”

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matters above all. And I say that that's not what our ancestors believe, it's not what our founders believe, it hasn't worked, exactly, you know, I say about our ancestors, they didn't come here to become capitalists, they came here to own the ground under their feet, to build their churches and communities, and pass something onto the next generations of their children,

of course, but they didn't come here to do it at the detriment of their neighbors, it actually came here to do it helping their neighbors. Well, you obviously are a communist. I have to tell you the amount of arguments that I hear from this generation that has subscribed as religion of economic thinking, which by the way our founders did not support,

they were in favor of tariffs, the states all had laws, but primarily all of them had laws to protect moral virtue, like this is a part of what they did, they knew it, and they knew because the state has a role in that, and we were, we are a Christian nation with a Christian form of government, like our constitution could not have been created by any other religion, you're not endowed by a creator, you're not, you don't have any available rights.

In Christianity you do, the divinity of individual is real, we're made in the image of God. And so I have these arguments with people where I'm saying, look, 25% of the lands on my us investors, I'd like to raise their property taxes. I'd like to disincentivize this thing that's been happening in our state and create a new category of tax for investment land for people that are coming in and prospecting, and I'm just, this is socialism, this is communism,

I'm just saying, who says that? This is what gets me, it's self-defense is immoral now.

Basically what they're saying, you're not allowed to defend yourself.

Yeah, I would just say, I love is not an economic zone for the world or for the country. It's not, you're upsetting me, yes, agree. And so, but when I say this, it's oftentimes people that were, you know, that were oftentimes as people that were really affected by the economic thinking that came out of the Chicago School of Economics. And when I trace much of this back,

But there's also this market fundamentalism that really took over. And then you look at what's been the repercussions of that, this idea that unrestrained capitalism is what we worship. Or that it even is capitalism. That it even is capitalism, because oftentimes it's corporatism, of course, just all Garley. Or that free trade is the ideal. It's like, even the

fathers of modern economics, Adam Smith, even David Ricardo, who is a person that basically

developed the idea of comparative advantage, this is a big thing. Yes, free trade is good, if you protect your national interest first. Like, like, friends, the silk and microchip was invented by a man from Iowa, Robert noise to the Intel. And then you look at what's happened now in our country, from a product that was invented in our country, we produce 10% of them. And all, basically, all of the high tech versions of this, we can't produce. We don't

the technology, so the ones that would be a military application are coming from somewhere else. So there's this idea that the market matters over all, I'm saying no, that's not, we don't

“worship the market. Like, the most egregious example of this, I think is when you look at what”

happened through free trade in the Russpelled and throughout the Midwest, where you had people that were told that the other jobs were being shipped overseas, but they'd be replaced by high tech jobs that they'd be trained by, which by the way, is a lie. It didn't happen. Matter of fact, the biggest benefits that came from that were for the leaders of large companies that chose to do what Adam Smith said not to do, which was, you know, free trade was about, was about

one country doing something really well, another country doing another thing really well, right, and they exchange. A comparative advantage in the market isn't exploitative labor conditions of a communist government. That's not included in the comparative advantage is not Adam Smith didn't foresee that. No, and so like when capital's mobile and you can move all of these factories to one place to to get cheap labor, everything's going there, and then so who got rich off that,

well, large companies got rich, and then pharmaceutical companies got rich, that prayed off purposeless white males who lost their work. Of course, in large parts, in it creates

still billionaires never went to jail. And like as I say this, I get like a goosebumps because it's like

this is just wrong. Oh, yeah. I mean, the hundreds of thousands of deaths that have come from this when you take work and purpose away from people, and you sell them a lie that then it's going to be replaced by these high-tech jobs or high-tech training for jobs, and it doesn't happen, and then you have these practices where people like, you know, like, here's a new customer, we can get them addicted. There's a stat I read, it's almost like it was on purpose.

You know, in 2016, the World Economic Forum had that article that was published still in line, I don't know why I'm still in line today, but I talked about this idea that in the future, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy. I tell people like, that wasn't a joke, wasn't a thread,

“it was a plan, and of course, and it's happening. Oh, I know. And so I think many people in our”

country just feels if there's this large plan or effort that's being executed that we're not privy to, but we have these siops that happen that come up and we're fed them through news or something like that to get on board with it. I think what we just talked about is probably a large part of that, this idea that we're going to take away meaningful manual labor with your hands, which by the way,

it's like maybe second to farming, that type of work is really gratifying because you're creating

a product for it. I do it in my spare time, like I can't wait to get off work and do it, not because I'm great at it or something, but because it's so rewarding, it's so refreshing, it feeds something, it feeds a real hunger, I think, at all, man. And so yes, no, it's like my primary

“form of relaxation, I just love it. And I think every man feels that way. I agree, man, you look at”

some of these channels on social media that are taken off. Oh yeah. It's so much of this because it's

craft videos of people making these houses. Hey, they're amazing. How about Pakistani metal working

videos? You ever watch those? That's a whole genre, those guys are amazing. I've never really

liked Pakistan, spent time in Pakistan. You watch those videos, you're like, I'm pretty pro- Pakistan. Just the ingenuity, the craftsmanship, which is not high, by the way, but it's just like, these are men making things out of raw materials and it's real to watch that. Yeah, and they're proud of what they create. 100% and they ought to be. They should. And they have my respect. Yeah. And me as well. And I would just say that I look at this from the standpoint of your own

nothing. And I look at this large narrative that's happening in our country. I mean, you know this, but even in Iowa, Blackstone is buying single-family homes. There's another company in

Council Bluffs that's doing as well, multi-billion-dollar real-sinvestment trust. It's buying

up single-family homes in Council Bluffs. Council Bluffs. That's a tough town. Yeah. And it,

“it across the river from Omaha. Yeah, it wouldn't be your first choice. I mean, that's how,”

that's how ubiquitous this is, right? It's like it's Council Bluffs. Council Bluffs. Yep. And then you look at our farm lands being bought by people that don't live here. And even when you get back into agriculture, you look at, you know, Iowa's a top-port producing state in the country. Yes. Well, most people don't know is I think somewhere above 75% of the pork that's raised in Iowa, the farmers don't own the pigs. Of course not. They're on contract from one of the big four

agriculture from Glamour, it's Cargill, Tyson, JBS, and National. So we're having this, this pride in our work, this pride in our land, this health of our people, or having these major issues come up. Well, so can I ask you, I mean, that does, see, well, nothing and be happy is a very famous phrase, and thank you for reminding us that it was 10 years ago that it first emerged and that it was real.

“It was not a meme at the point it was like a statement of intent. But I think that has obscured”

to even darker reality, which is not only you not own anything, you won't create anything. Yeah. I personally just speaking for myself as a middle-aged man, I would rather at this stage create that own. I like both. But the joy, the thing that proves that you are made in God's image, is your ability to create because God is the creator. Yeah. And when you create something, it's, it's the whole purpose of being here, whether it's children, or harmony, or a pair of

reading glasses, creation, making something out of nothing is the main joy in life. And when you take that away, no wonder people are on fentanyl. Yeah. Right. Well, also, I think maybe missing, like the biggest one of those, is speech. Well, exactly. Of this right here of what you're creating. I like to believe that's a form of creation. It is. That's it. It's like that's from my life talking. Speech is that. And that is that, and this is where I believe that we get bogged down in the policy

and the politics of this whole thing. And we forget about the grander story of who we are as a people. That we're endowed by our creator that we're here for a big purpose. You know, I spent a number of years building schools. And one of the things we'd say is that we believe every young person is a hero on their journey to find a calling and change the world. And like that was the

“inspirational line that we would say basically every day. Like that's who we are. That's why we're here.”

And a lot of this creation has been, as being taken away, as you mentioned, an AI is not the least

of which I tell my kids all the time. Look, use AI for research never let it write for you.

Writing is how you organize your thoughts. It's how you can think something through to separate the wheat from the chaff to understand how to think critically. The testier ideas and then get into a debate and things like that. You can't have a machine do that. This is a uniquely human thing is for us to to come up with these ideas based on our unique life experience. Stealing joy. It's like saying, eat a steak for me. Have sex for me. You know, wake up at dawn

and watch the sunrise for me. No, I'll reserve those to myself because I'm sure the greatest pleasures in life and creating something is number one on that list of joy. So like why would you ever outsource that to a machine ever understand that? Do you see the commercial for the product that basically records like your grandmother, your other cord, them when they're alive? And then after they pass away, it creates basically an avatar of them, but the actually you can steal my memories.

Actually, this I say it's like, for the longest time, we accepted technology. And it look,

farming is a big in this too. It's like, look, it reduced the burden of labor. And there's a certain part of the point that that's probably good. I mean, like hand plowing a field is a really difficult task using a tractor. Okay, that's probably okay, right? It is okay. I have some joking, but then when you start to see what it's being used for now to replace human beings. Meaning, you can continue to have conversations with this grandmother long after she's passed away and she'll

give you her unique thoughts. Well, that's completely stripping away the divinity of humanity. This idea that we're creating God's image, that we each have something unique to share, a humanity is something to be protected and is very special in the history of the universe. It's very special. It's like, well, let me just say this, a lot of my campaign comes down to this question. I was reading an essay by Wendell Berry. You know, it's funny. As you were talking,

I was just thinking of Wendell Berry. And I was going to say, apropos of nothing,

I love Wendell Berry. I thought, maybe he's never heard of Wendell Berry.

Oh, I love that you read Wendell Berry. Oh, I love Wendell Berry.

“Matter of fact, his essay on 9/11 was so radical. I think it got taken off the internet,”

but it was like so good. You know, I, I maybe shouldn't say this on here, but I drive a Tesla and it has an autopilot feature. And there's a period of time when I'd be driving with my kids and somewhere and I might like, you know, pull out the Wendell Berry poem book and give them a, it's on the way to schools. They're talking to my sister in law yesterday about Wendell Berry poems. Literally yesterday. I would actually have the kids take turns in the

car reading a poem. No, to which way, because look, understanding these ideas, I don't know if there's other than faith and they're tied in together, inextricably woven together ideas that Wendell Berry puts forward in the ideas of our faith. You can't separate them because it's about creation. Yes. It's about protecting that and understanding that we were told to 10 the garden. We're told to subdue, but not destroy,

yes, of course. And so I would have the kids read this because it's like, I want you guys to know, like, look, if I'm gone tomorrow and you knew two things about me that I loved my savior and I loved the creation. Yes. I'd be very happy. And I hope that, you know, if that's the only two things you remember about me and you just had to keep reflecting on those two things great. You're making me emotional again. Sorry. But in this essay, I was actually in the

Atlantic. If you're listening to Wendell Berry poems in the car with your kids, like, I'm, I tell me where the fundraiser is because I'm going because I just we need more of this than America.

“So, um, he had this poem. This essay wrote in the Atlantic, I think it's 1991. And somebody”

some quote, I read, turned me on to that. And I was like, I wonder what this is. So I went and read the whole thing. And then he talked about this idea. And I think this summarizes so much what I'm talking about. When I say, our farm land is being owned by people that live here. Our jobs are being shipped to other countries, or factories being shipped to other countries. We've unchecked monopolies that are exploiting our farmers. We have a highest cancer rate, but we're not talking about it.

Wendell Berry said that a foundational question that the Amish ask before they make any big decision is, what will this change do to our community? Yes. And I think I don't know anyone who would deny that our politicians and our leaders have not been asking that question for a very long time. That is absolutely right. And that is absolutely right. And we don't ask ourselves enough how will this change us

“in our relationships and our understanding of God in the world? And I think that of labor saving”

devices, I find myself, I'm the product of America and at its peak and there's not enough labor actually. And I find myself trying to eliminate labor saving devices from my life merely so I will have the experience of labor. Yeah. We hand grind our coffee. Don't have to do that. Why do we do that?

I always say to my befuddled and grumpy children like because we're not depending on electricity

for everything, you can grind your own coffee. It's okay. And I just feel like that, and obviously I'm insane, so that informs a lot of my decisions as my lunacy. But it also speaks to like a need in all people to be involved in the production of something. Yeah. Right? Oh, absolutely. Like door dash is, I'm not against door dash, but like not that I've used it. But like I don't know. You gain something, but you also lose something. That's all I'm saying. Yeah,

they're there. When you feel the feeling of accomplishment, it's it's a liberating feeling. Yes,

if you understand your own history of your family and your story, then you can connect to what's

“happened generation and generation in generation before. I think so much of where we've went wrong”

is that, you know, I was at a gosh, I was at a funeral for a woman that I loved dearly. Her name was Becky Elder and she was in a greyion from Kansas and you know, lived in Kansas for a while and

she was somebody who started schools. She was an amazing woman. I mean, like this could get me

emotional, but I was at her funeral about a week ago. And she was a, I would call a daughter of the prairie, like loved creation, tended it, had their own farms, all these things. And her son was reading something about her. And he said, one of the most common sins is forgetting. Forgetting where we come from, forgetting our heritage, forgetting that these places really matter. And so like when I'm in my community and I'm seeing the people I'm surrounded with

in large part, you know, it's like many of many of these places feel forgotten, especially by our politicians who didn't ask these questions of what will these changes do to our

community. I have a defensive mechanism that comes up in me to say like, I'm going to hear,

I'm going to fight for you. I'm going to do it. I don't know what that is. I don't know where that came from, but I would just say that God put something on me to say, look, maybe I win this

“governor's race, maybe I don't. My whole life is going to be focused on these issues because”

there are issues of caring for your neighbor. And it's the one of the two commands I've been given by Jesus. And so, you know, that's why we work with, you know, we could do farming a different way. And I could make more money on that. I have a family that I love that I want to like work with, specifically because it's additive to the whole equation. Yes. You know, in my great grandparents, we're living on the farm. I've found all these documents and here's stories about them

from the community. You know, so interesting is like, we talk about, we don't know who owns our land, you know, before when I was growing up, and I talked about these pieces of land, we've bought some of these pieces because the people have passed on and oftentimes they'll want to sell to us because they know where my heart is. And they don't want to go into an auction and they don't want to go into an auction and they don't want to go into somebody

from out of state or out of the country. We don't know. We call the pieces of land by the last

name of the people that live there forever. Always. We do the same. This is what we do in exactly

right. And it's honoring. I've told my wife, I plan to put up plaques or signs saying like this is this farm. This is the history of this farm. It's exactly what we do. It's exactly right. And that's exactly the way to do it. And so when I was talking early on about this idea of something lost,

“I remember hearing some stories and one of the stories I really loved was that you might”

quite grab on the right-grade grandpa. When they were on this farm, these Iowa communities used to be dotted with these small farmsteads all over. Many of them have just been bulldozed and formed over because you know people are growing and growing and growing and growing farm. Consolidations happening everywhere and of course. And with the consolidation, every time a farm is consolidated, I say to people, life goes out of our community. Like we have to get our young people back on these farms.

One of my biggest biggest efforts, I'm going to be undertaking is to do that. They were so tight knit in these communities. People tell me, you know, we used to come over to your house, this house. Coffee was on till 10 p.m. at night. And your great-grandmother, your great-grandpor, actually, the counselors of our neighborhood. So they had these groups. And so if husband wife were having an issue, they'd come over and they'd sit and talk this through

if they're having issues with kids. They'd sit and talk these things through. And they cared for each other and they're involved in each other's lives. And we're experiencing likely the exact opposite of that trend happening. And it's having a profound effect on our culture where we're becoming insular and othering. Just because you have a bumper sticker that somebody doesn't like that they're not to be talked to, just not at all. I want to find us back then. No, not at all.

And we're not allowed to behave like that anyway. My dream for the state of Iowa is to see long-term rich agrarian society, like a long-term rich agriculture heritage, be restored. That's

could fight. But it's worth it. It's foundational, not just to the state, but to us as a people.

“I think it's something in our soul that like working with our hands in the dirt, with animals,”

with family, with multiple generations. There's a book by a guy named Alan Carlson. I think it was called the natural family and where it belongs. And I had another basically radicalized moment for me. It was reading this in realizing this man said so many things that I didn't know how to say. Just that that set up of farmstead and neighboring farmstead that care for each other. And that did a lot of life together. Was the most entuned and connected, I think spiritually,

we could probably say we have been as a society or community. And I would like to see that return. What, I don't quite, we met at an event a couple of months ago, a very crowded event and

had like a three minute, I'd never heard of you. I had a three minute conversation. I was like,

whoa, I want to talk to that guy. Oh, so I should just confirm to anyone who's still watching this and out an hour in that you talk this way, private too, which I love. But what if people

“in like a official organized Iowa politics think when you say stuff like this?”

You know, in in longer form of discussions, I find that it's very, very good. But I think that politics has been so overtaken with this like bumper sticker ideology as it, which is like, I think somebody once said a bumper sticker is substitute for thought or something like that. Sure. And, and so, and also, I just think, I'm not the typical person

that would run for office. Like, I really, this would have get mildly. I really like,

I've really worked hard to, you know, be on our farm, to farm it, to have my kids understand that, to work in education and these types of things. I'm really worked hard to do that. This was not something that I had just like saying, you know what, timing's like, I've been waiting for this forever or doing this. It was more that I thought, you know, there's no term limits on the governor of Iowa. The longest serving governor in history of America is Iowa's former governor Terry Branson.

So, in my head and in my heart, as I suck my wife about this, like, the next person who gets elected governor could be governor to die. Oh, yeah. We'll look at, look at your senior senator, emphasis on the senior. I like him. I'm not attacking him, but he served for a couple

“hundred years, I think. It's like that quote when Ronald Reagan said, I knew Abraham Lincoln”

and you're no Abraham. I love that, but it's, you know, so politics is not the place for long form deep and spiritual discussion. And I wish it was. Yeah. Because I think if it was, you'd require people running for office to connect with you to deeper level to actually understand what you're going through and to know that they care about those issues. Because, you know, I don't care how low our taxes are. If our kids are leaving and our people are dying from cancer,

we are not in what I'd call successful territory, exactly right. In the beauty of economics is supposedly a species of science, which means it can be tested. So if you have an economic system in progress, longitudinally, over a period of time, then you can assess with the the highest degree of accuracy, whether it worked or not, right? Because you look at the outcomes. And by that measure, socialism communism is like the worst possible failure, our current system is not anything

like that, but it's not a win. It's a failure because look around. So like what we're doing isn't working. Yeah. I don't care what they tell you with some think tank or what should happen. I've lived long enough to see what actually happened. And no. Yeah. Doesn't work. And look at some of these new ideas that are coming out, which by the way, it's like the fact that these have to be stated is kind of crazy. And then the fact that we get pushed back on it,

like I'm somebody who firmly believes that the priorities of my government and my economy should be solely focused on making life better for the people that live in my state in my country. Like not racist. Not for big business, not for foreign countries. And I think so many people just thought that was the case. And then like meaning like people that are they're not really paid attention, but it's like the politicians are all telling me, like we're going to work on this

voted to keep $315 million of spending for the national and and down for democracy? What? Yeah,

not on your side. It's right. And it's like after everything that Elon Musk went through, yeah, after all of what these people did, all of what they took in the news, all of like the conflicts and relationships that are broke down with us, that one thing that we know is a front organization in large part is now getting hundreds of millions of dollars from our government and Republicans are voting yes on it. Whereas they are. It's like, we're not learning anything.

It's like the idea, how am I laughing? Because I don't know what else to do. How could you ever deny the existence of the uniparty at this point? Oh, I know. Well, you have a very prominent Republican senator and presidential candidate working with the ADL to suppress the speech of Americans. So it's like, hmm, maybe the current system isn't what they do. And but people know that it's that it's fake. And I guess the good news is we still have enough elbow room in a freedom in the

United States that you know, reform is possible. If enough people are like, no, come on now.

“You have to serve our interest sort of at least acknowledge them. Yeah, you, you would hope so. I”

think like this vote specifically is, is it quite the conundrum to that point, right? Like, this is all just happened. Well, I could name eight other things. You right happen in the last month and you're like, this is, this is so unbelievable. It's so outrageous. Like, it can't continue. The internal contradictions. If reach the point of breaking and like, oh, we're getting something new. And then this is like, oh, onto the next year. It'll be gone in a week. We're like,

in a week, I, it's gone now. That's got you exactly. But to that point, I think this is why this idea of running for governor is so appealing. It's like, maybe I'm wrong for saying this, but I've largely written off Washington D. I think that's fair. And it's like, if the people that we've put in power, no granted, I will say there's some huge, huge shining star to think what Robert F. Kennedy is doing. Unbelievable. The repercussions of this for the positive health benefits

of Americans will reverberate for generations if it can stay in place. Because he's going to help an entire generation of people become far more healthy. The better lives meet their great

grandkids, potentially. Like, that's amazing. Have clearer heads and pure spirits, like, to start

with, like, just the government should not officially endorse eating a thousand pounds of sugar a year. Just that right there to be flipping over the nutrition tables into something that more closely resembles reality. That's a huge step, reducing the vax schedule from like, you know, a million vaccines for the newborn to a smaller number. You got to call that a win.

“That's a win. And it's also something that I think we believe, why are we even having to have this”

fight? Oh, like, but you know, somebody asked me the other day, what do you think the most pressing issue facing America is? And like, taking out the spiritual, because spiritual outies intertwined, but taking that out, it said, "I think it's that our government is run by unelected people, and we don't know who they are." Yeah. And I was talking with out our best interest at hard. Yes. And so this idea of America first, if I were first, it's like, to many of us, this is just

common sense. It's like, this is what the country was set up for. What's the other form of government that's legitimate? I can't think of one. If this is a Democratic Republic and the government is acting in an interest that's not our interest, how is that legitimate? How is that not grounds for, you know, anyway. Right. There's no other legitimate form of government, but America first, or Iowa first. Like, there's that's the only option. And how we got away from that is unbelievable.

And like, look, I'll talk to my dad about some of these things the other day. And, you know, some things you can think and know, but not exactly know how to describe or put into words.

“And I get that feeling when I think about the shift that our country clearly went through after”

this assassination of John F. Kennedy. Well, that's it right there. It seems as if something spiritual happened at that point within our country. And it has to do with the complete disregard for truth, honesty, where like the American public deserving to know what's happening. And then, you know, I read a tweet one day. I don't know who said it. Maybe it's Russell Brand, or somebody that said something along the lines of like the the future success of our country.

And the Kennedy's is like intertwined in some way. And so it is true. I never used to believe that

no, they were not serious. People, but they could feel something that was true. And that was

clearly true that a lot did change everything changed when he was assassinated in a way that I did not appreciate tell was much older. And the, but they were right. They were right in saying that. And the fact that 63 years later, you know, C.I. still will not, this is a fact, will not divulge all the information that it has on his murder despite a bunch of laws from Congress, despite an executive order from the President of the United States in a year ago,

they're still hiding it clearly. There were, you know, probably a lot of people involved, probably a foreign country clearly involved, our own government clearly involved. So like, and they're still lying about it. It's wild. But if the truth sets you free, then lives

“and sleep, the lies and slave view, the Alversus true. So I think we are enslaved in some sense by”

these lies. You know, I think where I see this most is in the newest generation of people that are coming up, you know, coming of age, so to speak. And there's some very loud voices out there that they're all flocking to, one in very, in particular that you've interviewed. And people asked me all the time, like, why do I think that is? And then I just say, guys, look at the lies. Look at what's happened, look at the lack of justice, the lack of accountability. Like, we don't,

where's Fauci? Like, what about the Hunter Biden laptop? One of these people are going to be arrested. I said this about Trump 10 years ago when I lived in Washington, I'm a product of Washington, obviously,

and I wrote a piece basically Trump is popular because you failed. And it's not wasn't an end

horseman of everything. Trump said that I like Trump, but in voted for him. But it wasn't, it's not about Trump. Like, Trump wouldn't have existed if the system was working. And the same is true of the person you're referring to, whose name shall not be named. But no, no, but true. It's like, we argue about, is he good or bad? Is he, you know, whatever, but the argument's not really about him. It's what the system that allowed someone like that to become popular. It's like, why do you think

people are watching that? Because you failed. You betrayed your own voters. Yes. Yes. That is right. Yes. And look, one of the biggest issues that come up is about, you know, immigration. Yeah.

“It's all over. And I think for a long time, we have been criticized, ostracized for noticing”

what's happening and calling it out to say like, what's happening? And, you know, there's this idea of replacement migration, this replacement theory. And you, like, I don't ever talk about this, but it's like, people talk about it. And they're immediately just hammered down. Well, in 2000, the UN put out a document called replacement migration. Of course. 144 pages, multiple languages. But I read this. And it's like, it's lining out exactly what's happening. And it's saying,

look, European nation is going to be losing population. You know, America's be losing population. What's

the answer? Well, traditionally, throughout history, the answer is to promote having more children.

I get easier for people to have kids. Yes. Mary, make life more affordable. Right. Bring home the money that's being spent overseas. And you, I mean, imagine, we just talk about

“our active, Afghanistan. Imagine what our country would be if we didn't spend $10 trillion on that.”

Yeah. Imagine what we could have done for our children in our communities. So, what do you look at this? And you're, you're called this, I'm not called X. I don't ever talk about this, but people are called conspiracy theorists for bringing up this idea of replacement migration. They literally wrote a white paper on it. Of course. And they describe what it's going to do. And then you look at these people that are feeling like, you know,

especially young white males. Like, they're being taken out of society. They're being told they don't matter. Matter of fact, they have this original sin of being who they are. It's unbelievable. And then you, in the ones that get dangerous conspiracy theorists, you ever look at the census numbers? Right. So, again, we can just bring science to bear on this, is the native population being replaced? I don't know. Let's check the census.

Answer? Yes. How about we do it by zip code? I'm 56. So, what's, let's go back in 1970, since the 1970. Just spent an afternoon reading that. And so, anyone who tells you you're a bigot, or you're engaging in conspiracy theorizing, is, you know, is not, is lying and probably lying in order to hurt you? Well, and, and Tucker, why? It's like, well, right. It's like, why are we not allowed to have and appreciate and love our culture? And why are we also not

allowed to let people in that want to be a part of that culture? That's the whole idea.

Well, why is that? Well, my great-great-grandpony came over. He wanted to keep the German spelling, but he wanted to be a pronounced American, and they took on the American customs, and they

“became American. Yeah. That's what it was. And the idea that we're saying that this is,”

how were, how did, how did the family pronounce it in Germany? I was told, it's pronounced, learn, like, learn. Yeah, it's a, it's right. And that's what I was told some day, as you could probably imagine. I'm going to go over there and dig as deep as I can at all this stuff, because it's, you know, some people get the bug for learning this about their family. I am that human. Like, I love this. Like, I love learning about my history and heritage. And, you know, what, like, 150 years in America,

is it a thing to be very proud of? Yes, I agree. But also, they likely did not want to leave where they were at. I didn't want to go three weeks on a boat in the storage, you know, from Northern Germany. Northern Germany, and on my mom's side, actually the family's been here since

Revolution, actually my great ancestor, direct great ancestor died in the Revolutionary War.

Me too. And so, these voices of people who understand the culture that our ancestors created, and that's something to be so proud of. It's so inclusive. It reduces suffering. It is welcoming to people. But the idea that you can come in and try to put something else over top of that. And Charlie Kirk said this beautifully. He said, "Something unributures words." And I'm sorry for

“that. I first met him in 2011. I think we're supposed to be in the same event.”

I said something along lines of the reason we're in a constitutional crisis, because we have a Christian form of government. But we have elected people that are not following that custom in religion, Christianity. And so, you're going to have a constitutional crisis. You're going to have fraud all over the place. Your institutions will break down. Because the system was a bespoke system. It was created for the people who lived under it. And you've got different people, so you're

going to get a different system. Yeah. It was created. Not a value of judgment. It's just an

observation. It was created. Exactly. Amazing conversation. I'm intentionally not going to ask you

“about the politics of it. You're going to have plenty of time to talk about that. But I think this”

gives anyone who, as again, watched at this point, is either, like, oh my gosh, I'm saying this man, money or stop him. But I am interested to like, when, really quick, last question, what is the process from here on now? Our primary elections June 2nd. Then, if we win the primary, then the elections in November, many people in the primary. There's five people in the primary right now. And so I believe we have a really, really good shot at this. And I believe our message,

the time for the message that we're saying is now. And there's been a void that's been there

and people are wanting politicians and people running for office. Because I'm never in for office.

I'm not a politician. They're wanting people that will speak truths to them. And then we'll talk with the big issues, even if the donors and the special interests say, I've told them, I don't want your money. I'm not looking for your money. I'm actually, I'm actually here to stop a lot of the practices that you're putting in place. And so I've said, I'm my own biggest donor to this campaign. I will not be bought. It won't happen. Boy, they're going to try to stop you. It's not radicalism

that scares them. It's quiet since here determination. I would say so. Godspeed. Thank you.