How Military Technology Became a Pain Relief Patch (The Accidental Breakthrough Nobody Expected)

Not emotional pain, but actual and physical pain. The kind that stops people from sleeping, from showing up, from doing the work. Chronic pain that doctors have written off. Pain that vets have carried for 30 years. My guest today built something out of a military antenna project.

Originally designed to shrink an 80 pound backpack for navy seals, jumping out of planes. What came out of that is a patch. No drugs, no electricity, no side effects, 800,000 unit sold, clinical results across five studies and a track record that now has the White House pain attention. My camond is the founder of Signal Relief, and this conversation is going to make you rethink

what you thought you knew about pain, the body, and what technology can actually do for people. This is the vault. Let's unlock it. Mike, welcome to the show. How are you?

I'm fantastic. I'm excited because I know it's a little bit different episode we're going to be having, but we're going to be talking about a product that you've created. I can't wait to talk about the story, because we talked about it a little bit earlier, and I just, it was fascinating story here.

But all the way from Signal Relief, you and your company are doing some game changing things right now. In a world of AI, we're all the technologies happening. You are actually doing some physical game changing things for human beings. Absolutely.

“I wish I could have like three hours just to put on testimonials, right?”

We're very limited, because it's because we're a health and wellness patch, we're very limited. We can't target diseases as such, and usually when people are talking about their problems,

they're always telling you exactly what the problem was, which makes it.

So we can't use it. But man, the testimonials, it's like game changing for these people. It's life changing. So, and I know, and you didn't even know what you were building when you first started. So let's go back.

Let's reverse back to where did this all begin? Like, who was Mike Hammond, by the way, who was Mike Hammond, right? But when you were trucking, right, with the, I think it was the military, in all of a sudden, things started happening. Let's, let's, we, so I've been an entrepreneur in my whole life.

I've ever since college I've never worked for a person in my life.

I've always had my own businesses.

I have 13 right now. It's just kind of been my thing. One of them was a large satellite retailer, and it's called this one satellite. But we were the, by 2010, we were the largest in the United States, and Dish network ended up buying us in 2012.

So, to just kind of give you an idea, I have, I got my MBA at the U. It was an executive MBA, so most of my classmates were entrepreneurs and business owners and our executives, and as soon as my, I sold my first company, Dish won to Dish.

“It was like, all my MBA buddies started calling me saying, hey, you should invest in this.”

Hey bro, should we should go do this, you know, it's just how it works. So one of them was, actually he's a merit, his, his grandpa built the merit hotels. And he runs Spectre symbol, which basically it's a company that was funded, is funny. We actually research them in our MBA class, and I'm looking through the financials, and I noticed that it was the Marriott Foundation that originally funded them.

And that's like, he never tells anyone, I'm like, who's the Marriott, is this your

grandpa? He's like, yeah, it's my grandpa. So anyway, he was the CEO of their company that builds tech. And what they do is printable electronics. So smaller stuff, like, usually the motherboard of like an oil rig or a rainbow sprinkler,

smaller stuff like that. And so he said, hey, I'm working on a new project right now that I know you're going to want to invest in, you got to come out here. Well, at the time, I'm now the CEO of Dish won Satellite, which is owned by Dish. So I work a lot with Charlie Irgon in those guys.

“So they fly out, like, I think six or between six or eight engineers with me come out”

to go see this new tech. These guys are building. And what they did is they brought us to Heber. And what happened at the time, you got to go back in time, because back in 2012, when they deployed a team of Navy sales, one guy in that group had to carry around a five foot

So these guys are jumping out of planes sometimes, right?

“Or like an 80 pound backpack's a problem.”

And so the Department of Defense was asking the trying to figure out a way to shrink this down and get rid of the weight in the backpack. So what happened is these guys claim they had built an electrical antenna instead of magnetic. So our current antenna is your point in a direction, the more power you put behind it, the

farther signal goes. Electrical is like a light bulb, turn on a light bulb, it's like everywhere. But it goes 300% farther unlike one tent the power.

But the problem is it picks up way more noise, so it's hard to get a signal for me to

be, right? And so these guys have figured it out supposedly. So what they did to show us their tech is they had two little antennas, the size of a credit card, that they taped on a cell phone antennas like the towers, yeah, okay, the big towers.

Yeah. So they had two towers on each side of Heber and they pointed to each other and they basically just sent ones and zeros across the city. And then when the ones and zeros hit the other tower, you would record how long it took.

And then they had two credit cards with a nine volt battery and it was 300% faster across the city. And these engineers are like, this is impossible. No way.

So I was like, I gave him my almost a million bucks.

I'm like, I'm in because I'm just kind of wired that way. I'm like, ah, this is awesome. I'm in. So I invested into their tech and they ended up building it and it kind of did what they said.

But something that happened out of that is when we were putting the antennas on the soldiers before we ever hooked it into a radio. The antennas were picking up electrical, what we called it noise. And we were like, where's the noise coming from? So we'd go into another building and do it again and pick up noise.

And we're like, what the heck's going on? We'll come to find out it was the body. We just aren't doctors, but the body's electrical. And basically, we were just picking up and the antennas were naturally interacting with the body's electrical field.

So we got to stop there because that's, there's so much here. And I really want to understand this because this goes to a lot of stuff that I personally loved, which is, we have spirit, we have energy and all, you know, and that you're really touching on this, but like in a scientific way. So we're talking about Navy SEALs jumping out of a plane with satellites, you know, as long

as whatever, right, 80 pound backpacks. And this team and you guys were tasked with how can we take these satellites? It was an antenna. Yeah, an antenna. And shrink it down and shrink it right down.

So you guys figure out, well, we know how to shrink it right down. So we get it down from this huge antenna to a size of a credit card. Is that correct? Yeah, that's what they did. So now I'm jumping out of a plane with an 80 pound back and not an antenna anymore.

Just a little credit card that sits on my chest, there's something. And actually, the amount of the pack was cut, I mean, it's 1/10th to power. So, way down. So, it changed everything for those guys, right, and so when we noticed that it interacted with the body, that's actually what kicked off us being like, well, I wonder if we could

“do something if the body of, so what's paint, like Google, you should type it in your AI”

right now, what causes pain in the body? It's going to be an electrical frequency that your nerves generate, that go up your neural pathway and hit the brain, the more energy it's just energy that hits the brain, the more pain you feel. So coming from the tech world, we're like, that's easy.

So I'm going to explain this in layman terms, lightning, everyone understands lightning, lightning hits a house or a tree, boom. But if you put a stupid little lightning rod on your house, it will go across your house to the lightning rod into the ground, why? Why does that work?

Like, most people don't understand it, but energy always follows the path of least resistance.

And so you're given it an easier path to the ground, so all that energy can just focus into the rod and then go to the ground. It's easier travel. What's kind of what our neural pathways create, right, with the blood and the veins and it's, they generate that energy.

It travels up the neural pathways to the brain, it's easier. And it hits this patch for 85% of people. There's 15% that are just a little bit different, and we built this basically. We can cover about 85%. We've done five clinicals and it's 85% every time.

So I want to be very clear, this is very, wow, wow, very interesting.

“So you're saying 85% of the population, and that's when the first, sorry?”

Yeah, 85% of everyone in our clinicals, this works for.

because they don't generate a little bit different, we'd have to tweak it, right?

“So frequency attracts frequency, so this is a collection of certain products, I have”

to be careful with our paths, that we basically put together that create a certain frequency.

And so for, for what happens is when, so if I hurt my hand and I stick this on my arm, usually 85% of the time, people are like, oh, it's getting warm, or they fill a tangle. The reason why is that energy is going up and hits the patch and all the sun, it's easier for the energy to just go into the patch. So it absorbs you going into the brain or going somewhere else.

Instead of going all the way up to the brain, we give it a highway out of the body. So this is what's cool. So chronic discomfort or normal discomfort, any of that type of stuff, pain is a disease, we have to get FDA cleared before we can be a pain patch, but discomfort. When it hits this patch and they fill it start to warm up for 85% of people, they're going

to have a 60% or better decrease in pain in less than 15 minutes, decrease in discomfort. Without actually, like literally, without putting anything into the body. So we've sold 800,000 of these and we haven't had one person have a side effect yet. Zero side effects, because we're not putting it like, even a 10's unit is shocking your nerves and scrambling them so they don't work for a while, there's nothing, it's just allowing

that energy to leave. So what happens with you saw in that picture I sent yet is when you get rid of the cause of what causes you to hurt, right, inflammation leaves immediately. And so that's where you're seeing, it's like there's two sides to it, not only doesn't not hurt, but the inflammation leaves, they get their maneuverability back and then things

heal faster. Like you spring your ankle, you wait three days to get the inflammation out of your ankle and then it starts to heal, well what if you even make it go away in 10 minutes, how much faster does it heal? So we've been testing this out with athletes, we did the National Soccer Team down in

Mexico, used it and they went, their main injury was a quad injury, that's a professional soccer players get the most, it takes 28 to 30 days for a quad injury, usually to heal. 8, 7 to 8 days, they said with the patch, these are crazy, listen, it's absolutely nuts, these are big claims, I love them because I'm easy to sell, as a sales guy, the easiest guys to sell are sales guys, but I just know people are like, oh shit, they're saying

“bullshit, right, and they should, they should because that's what I said, yeah, so that's”

why I'm not saying it, I'm giving you, there's such an opportunity to actually to discuss

this, like how is this so different, and then the reality is like I said on the first

call, if it's as good as it is, why, why has not everybody heard it, like why, you know, the whole world should need to hear about this, right, because I was going to ask that one question, there, there's so much science that a lot of pain, there definitely, you know, disease, right, comes from the mindset more than actually what's actually happening in the body, you know, like, you know, I always say there's kind of like cancer's cancer,

like that's, you know what I mean, but how you approach cancer, how you go through cancer, how you get over cancer, that has a lot to do with the state of mind, uh, broken bone, like nobody's coming and fixing a broken bone. So I want to be very clear, and you said it, this patch doesn't kill a broken bone, but what that patch does is it takes the trauma around the broken bone away faster, aka the inflammation, so that the body can start healing

itself at a quicker rate, which then allows you to heal the bone quicker. So the patch isn't

“necessarily, I want to be very clear on this, because I think it's, it's, it's important,”

yet the patch isn't the miracle drug that's, it's automatically healing, healing this bone, it's the, miracle miracle drug that's healing the inflammation around the broken bone, which allows the body to heal faster. Yeah, I, I don't think this replaces anything that

you actually need to do to fix the problem in the first place. It's just one of those tools.

I mean, one of the things we're figuring out right now, right in today's world, is there's different therapies that everyone used to be like, this is what you do for cancer. Now some people are like, well, yeah, let's do that, but let's stack these other seven things on top of it, and now, and then you have people that are, I mean, I just met a lady has nothing to do with our, they use our patch and their clinic, but there's a clinic that stacks modalities like crazy,

out in San Diego, and I met actually a supermodel from LA, she had stage four breast cancer,

what they're doing is they're stacking multiple things, and it's just like, we can do things better by bringing it all together, right? Right. And so this, this is really only doing one thing,

and that is, it's allowing that energy that causes people to hurt. It's basically allowing you to

get rid of that, right? Point that out of the body, but that's so applicable to so many different

“things. That's what I wanted to get across to people is whether you're an athlete or whether you're”

70 years old and you're just dealing with chronic discomfort at the point where he hurts to get out of bed. This is one of the tools everyone should have in their, in their tool box, because I mean, the thing last of you, you can wear it every day for a year, but this is the other thing I was going to get at, is we're not here trying, we're not trying to like sell snake oil, and so most people know in 15 minutes if this is working, there's a few of them that have to wait a

day or so, but most people in 15 minutes, we give people 45 days and they get every dollar back. And so it's like, it's a nobody. You don't have to believe me. If you don't believe me, just try it and see, like, yeah, you think I'm full of crap. We'll just order it and then tell me if I'm full of crap in 15 minutes. So let's talk about the story, if you can't, I don't know if you can't, and if you can't, that's fine. But there was something about a pretty big public government official

that used this, that had foot pain used this, all of a sudden you're getting calls from the U.S. government saying, you got to come in, we got to do studies on this, is that a story that we

“can say? No, it's, it's, until you what happened. So back last year in July, I think there was a”

mahogvent at the Microsoft Building in DC, and I was actually one of the speakers that spoke at that event. And so, um, right before me, we're two of the coolest products. There was a heart surgeon who had actually taken a pig's heart, and they'd done three of these already, but they were injecting a stem cells and turning it into a transplant human heart that matched your blood type in six

months, which do this game changer, right? Wow. I was like, dude, that is so cool. And then the next

guy was actually one of the partners with Bill Gates on Microsoft. He had built this cool device, looked like a clock, and you stick it in your house, and you know, like, um, they have those penance for older people when the elderly fall down, they hit it, and it calls 911. Well, you get rid of that. This thing scans through the walls and floors, and it locks onto like your mom or your dad, and it watches them wherever they go, and it looks at their heartbeat, and they're breathing

in all their vitals. And then if they fall down, it calls 911 and sends them all the vitals,

“which I was like, dude, this is so rack. Like, these are cool things, right? Yeah. That's what I love”

about, um, RFK actually in this group of, is they're pushing, they're speeding the process up, it used to take 10 years for stuff like that to get to market, which is insane. And they're figuring out how to get these, there's really cool advancements to people. Well, dude, I'm already, I'm like up next. I'm after the Microsoft guy, and I'm thinking literally, like, I'm going to look like it. I have a patch. Yeah. So, so luckily, my marketing guys were geniuses, and we had this, we had

this, it was by pure luck this happened, but, um, earlier, we're in DC vets, we love vets, and what happened is I was in Walmart just earlier. And, uh, that was actually, I'm right by Yellowstone National Park. So we're on the border of Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming. So I'll write here. And this vet was sitting

at Walmart, and he had a sign, and he just said, um, it just basically said, it can anyone give me

money. I'm trying to get to the vet hospital in Boseman, anything helps. And I see someone hold $20 out there window, and he stands up to get it, and just grabs his leg and sits back down, and lets the car drive off. So, me, because this is like my world, I'm like, no way, this is awesome. So I run to the office, and I get all my customer service people, because they hear stuff on the phone, but I want people to see it, because one of the things that's like a miracle every time

is fanom lake, like missing limbs, this thing's like changes lives in 10 seconds. So I get these people, well, one of my employees pulls out their cell phone and records it, which we don't know at the time. So we go up to this vet, and it's like, authentic is authentic, and we're like, hey, how you doing?

submarine explosion in Vietnam. Yeah, okay. And he's like, I'm like, so how bad is it? And he goes,

“he looks at me and he goes, I haven't slept a single night in 30 years. Wow. And then you”

realize like, this guy's hurting. Well, we cut the patch on his leg, and I'm like, hey, I want to see if this actually will help with the discomfort you're feeling in your lower leg. And so I put it right in his knee, right on the prosthetic, where his leg goes into the prosthetic, right on top, because it doesn't even have to touch the skin. Just has to get in your electrical grid. Well, he's like, in 10 seconds, he's like, that's crazy, and he's like, it doesn't hurt.

And I go, why don't you try walking? He goes, because in my mind, I'm like, it doesn't hurt. So you'd get up excited to try and walk. He's like, no, you don't understand. I can't walk. I can't walk. And I'm like, why don't you just try it? So he gets up. He takes three steps. He turns around and tears just come down both eyes and he salutes us. So we're like, we give him the money

“for the bus ticket. We take off. We get back to the office and my employees like, I just recorded”

that whole thing on my cell phone and I'm like, no way, I need to get a release. That's awesome. So we go back to Walmart to find this guy. And this is my favorite part. He's running circles around his wheelchair. He's just like running around his wheelchair and we get up. And now it's not crying. It's a huge smile. And he's like, can you believe this? I can't believe this. Look what I'm doing. And he's walking around his wheelchair. And it was just like,

life changing, right? So we showed that video, standing ovation. Even though those other things were so much cooler in my mind. Yeah, this is life changing. Absolutely. We had senators. We had everyone in that room standing up and just like standing ovation because people realize everyone knows someone like that, right? Who's in some chronic pain for sure? My question is we go through that. I got how much of that, you know, like, I'm not a skeptic, but I guess I am because

these things, these thoughts come through my head. I'm here and all that. And I'm like, yeah, but how much of that is like placebo or, you know, he, whatever it might be versus real. I don't know. I'm just wondering how I should do it. It's a great question, right? And so that got really everyone interested. So then we got asked to go meet with, yeah, one of the cabinet members and he had really bad foot for six years. It has been killing him no relief. And so we made those little

signal step in sales. And two days, two days after I gave it to him, I got a text from a doctor that actually is his personal doctor over the White House. He used to be the Joint Chief of Staff's physician. Now he works with a bunch of them. And he just goes, Mike, we need to talk.

Blank just got a hold of me and said his feet haven't heard any more. This thing's amazing. I want

to get some trials going at Georgetown and one can we talk. And that's where that started, but it was like it's just got it rolling. So we still have, we still have, I mean, to get FDA to be like where doctors can prescribe it, right? Like we have, we're far away, but that's the end goal. What's cool is that it qualifies as a health and wellness patch because it's so non-evasive. And so in our mind, I'm like, hey, we got to get there eventually, but right now what we can do is we

can make it. I'm not allowed on TV to ever say risk-free, but we can make it. So people don't have to risk a whole lot. They can buy it, right? And they can try it. And if it changes their life, awesome. I mean, everyone has a grandma, a grandpa, an uncle, and aunt, they know someone. And if this can change their life, here, here's the placebo question. This is the best part.

“So we actually have this right here is the joebie. You notice in a difference in there now?”

I'm seeing it. I'm wondering. It does do referring pain. Does it switch the pain elsewhere? It will, your body can't actually move it. And so you just follow the patch with it. Yeah, okay, because it does. Yep, that works. That's exactly the body's like, wait a minute, I'm not getting anything there. So then it will start to move it. But the other thing that happens is when that relaxes, you fill it where you used to not fill it, because it used to be worse in the other

area. So you just, just let it, just let it migrate. But we launched this on social media. It was for menstrual cramp or, okay, yeah, that time of the month, right? And so that kind of

discomfort, basically, this thing is awesome. So we launch it and it sells like crazy. But then this lady

texts me back. So she sends us a video and says, hey, did you guys ever try this on a dog? And then she has a video over a dog and it has arthritis. It can't walk up the stairs.

One of these around its back. And the dog was running up and down the stairs. Come on. So I'm like, no way. So this is like not random at all. But this is exactly how this worked out. So two weeks before we launched this two weeks before this dog thing gets posted. My brother-in-law dies in a car wreck. And he's a big hunter. He was on Steve Outdoor Ventures. And he had this horse called Moose. He was a walking horse. And so my sister comes to me and said,

I'm a horse. I'm a huge horse guy. She's like Mike. I don't know how to take care of this horse,

“but his boy Ryan's but our son wants this horse. So will you take care of it?”

I'm like, I know for sure, who wouldn't, right? So I'm like bring it over to my house. I got it. So the horse is at my house. It's this 17-hand huge walker and it breaks through the gate. I didn't have it tied enough. And it gets into my 50 gallon drum of grain and starts eating the grain. Well, for anyone that knows horses, if you give them more than a couple scoops, it gets so hot

that they basically will found her. Like create heat and that heat will go and blow out their

feet and they're usually done. So you'll notice on July, I think it's the 22nd in this picture. I'm going to send you the pictures. July 22nd, the horse is on the ground. You'll see the pain in its face because it's got all that heat. And then four days later, you'll see that you'll see its legs perfectly white. Four days later, I'll send you another picture and you'll see it's still on the ground. Only holes have been blown out both of its back legs. It's still on the ground.

Hasn't got up. That's telling me, I don't know if we're going to be able to save this thing. It's pretty bad. The girl posts this thing about this dog. Well, I'm instantly like, oh my gosh, I got at least what

“do I have to lose? I'm going to try it on the horse. The truth is, yeah, placebo is a real thing,”

but you'll notice when you look at our clinicals that we're so far above the placebo, like,

our results are high. And so there's always placebo for sure, but it's hard to fake placebo

with a horse and a dog. Yeah, I agree. And so it's just a really cool game-changing product. I mean, we have a new one coming out for called the signal core that's for it's like a back brace. And so you can actually get support plus it's twice as big so it absorbs more energy. And so that's game-changer for the older generation. And then the one that I have that I have on here, you're saying I can get out to my wife when it's, you know, that she's having that time in the month there. And it

helps alleviate the pain. Oh, dude, like, game-changer. We did a trial. One of our trials, actually, it was, uh, it's just helped in wellness trials, so not like clinical, but we took. We basically interact with the endometriosis society and they gave us 200 women with endometriosis that wanted to try it right. So it worked again for 85% the same exact percentage. But the average decrease was only a 40%. So I thought we failed. I'm like, dude, we suck. 40%. We gave it to 80 women.

80 women tried it in that trial. And I think it's on the website. Um, well, I call the president of the endometriosis society. And I'm like, hey, this doesn't work. Then we're struggling. It looks

like, and he goes, dude, I've never seen something work this could ever. He goes, you don't understand

people that have this living pain. There's nothing you can do to get rid of it. And he's like, they've never seen anything like this. So we're in the middle of an actual IBR clinical right now for that very thing. Well, there will be done this end of this year. But it is just a really cool product. And I mean, I'm glad we came across it. I think it can do a lot of good. But I think ultimately FDA clearance medical like getting into the medical building one that actually can be

“issued by doctors is that's what you want to do. That's great. But why do you need one to get”

issued by doctors? I mean, this is a pretty low investment from what we talked about. We're talking about what like $80, $100. It's literally 120 bucks for a year. 120 dollars for a year with your discount. Because you have a discount code that gives people a huge amount off. I think it's normally 160. But we're doing like, they have a normal discount. And then you get an additional percent off for all of your listeners that's on top of what's out there already. And so it's nothing.

And it's like if it doesn't work, you get your money back. That's the great thing. But if it does,

smells from guys that I got a large construction company from this old old. I mean, you can imagine.

“So it was a huge construction company at the time when I bought it out in Jackson Hole.”

The guy has all the means in the world. But he's like, man, he was sitting down. He's like, I just can't sit anymore. It hurts too bad. And he's like, I have to go to, he had to go to church. He called it state conference and sit on a wooden bench and he was so nervous. So I gave him my patch. He's one of the first guys I ever gave one to ever. And I've kept his voice smell now for four years because I get his voice smell and he goes, his voice smells like Mike. I don't know what to say.

He's like, I don't know what the hell you put in this thing. But this is crazy. It was just a surprising his voice. He's like, this is crazy. I sat on the bench for three hours. I sat up and shook hands

for an hour. And I haven't had to take any ad bill. And he's like, this is just, this is amazing.

And he actually was one of our first investors. He told me back and it's like, how do I invest into this? But it's just such a cool product because I think I feel like Western medicine has taken this shift over the last few years where we just give people more stuff to get rid of a problem. But the side effects are almost more damaging than the problem itself, right? And so we have a lot of addiction now that we're doing with everywhere. And we have something right here that's

non-evasive, non-addictive, and probably for some people, even more effective, which is crazy.

“And so I just say, man, what do you have to lose a try it? Especially with the deal you're given”

everyone, like they should try it. Yeah, we're going to have that in the show notes for sure. I'm just going to say this. I was excited to have you because if, if what you're saying is happening and your changing lives, the rate you're changing, then like I just want to be part of that,

that whole program, basically. And to have you on here and to hopefully, if a lesson is

are sitting here, I'm just going to say this, like legit. If you're sitting here and you have chronic pain, or you know someone who has chronic pain, and or feeling with discomfort, you really have nothing to lose. This could be the thing that actually allows, whether it's your grandma, maybe your grandfather, your mom, your dad, to be able to walk again, to be able to, to get up with vitality, your wife to not have the pain that they have to feel every month. Like, I mean, what you're saying

is this is, this is like the miracle patch here, and the science approves it, and you're changing

“lives. So I think it's a no-brainer. That's why I was excited to have you on and hear about this,”

because you don't hear about these stories all the time. And it's hard because you can get marketed to really well with this stuff, and it can actually backfire, because at some point, when it's too good to be too, too good to be true, people don't, it's too good to be true, but this is one of the situations where too good to be true is true. And you just got to actually invest and do it. Dude, I got a, I had a story once that was emailed to us. It was actually, I'm going to keep

names off of it, but a mom emailed our customer service. This was, gosh, three years ago, and we've kind of like pasted this up in our corporate office, because this is like, what we're all about, right? But when you think about, like, I have six kids, and it's like, it's one thing when you heard, but when you watch your kids suffer, it's like a whole different game for the parent, right? I get socks. And it was the emotion that I felt with this lady that

it's just, this is like the biggest game changer for us, but we got this email. She says, uh,

hello, I want to just say thank you. Thank you for giving my daughter her life back. Seven years ago, my daughter who was eight at the time started complaining about her feet and her lower legs hurting. She was a competitive dancer in Tumblr, so I figured it was from that. After a little while, I got worse to the point that she quit dance. I took her to a pediatric who sent her to an orthopedic surgeon who sent her to a vascular specialist

who then sent her to a rheumatologist at primary childrens. The rheumatologist finally diagnosed her with amplified musculoskeletal pain syndrome, extreme and constant pain. After five years of doctor's MRI's physical therapy wearing special boots, compress and socks, it was determined there's nothing that could help her. The pain average and eight on a scale of one to ten, there's days she had to call us from her friend's house two doors away because she couldn't

walk home. She had to turn down birthday parties, trampoline parks, ice skating rings. She even had her friends leave her in the middle of the mall because she couldn't walk anymore and they wanted

but her life's never been the same. Six weeks ago, I was browsing Facebook and had a neighbor

talking about cramps. Someone suggested your patch. I decided to click on the link and as I read the description, I had tears streaming down my eyes because I just knew I needed to try one for my daughter. I ordered them right away and when they came, we were excited and also a little skeptical. I helped my daughter put one on her leg and within seconds she started sobbing uncontrollably. I started the panic, thinking she was hurt. But she looked me in the eyes and barely managed to

say mom, it's gone completely gone. The sweet girl who's not had one minute of relief in over seven years and it's gone in an instant, we put another one on her other leg and the same thing happened after she stopped sobbing. She stood up, jumped around the kitchen. She hasn't been able to do that in so long. She's been wearing the patch on both legs every day since and it's been the biggest miracle in blessing our families ever experienced. I've been meeting to write this for a

few weeks, but my emotions about it are so strong. I'm even crying now. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Words are gratitude for the patch. We'll never be enough to express how we feel,

“but you forever change my daughter's life. That's what it's all about. Yeah. And that's like where”

we're so excited. Our passion for it is it's like, do you allow parents to do that? Because I can't imagine that. I can't imagine with that woman felt like watching her daughter not be able to do anything. Hey, my daughter just broke her TV, huh? I'm putting this on her. So I'm putting this on her. My wife's thing going to make me think I'm crazy, but I'm going to put this on her. And I'm going to absolutely, I love it. I'm going to make sure my wife listens to this.

And I'm going to make sure everybody hears this. I really do believe that I think if this is the life, if this is the stuff that you're doing and the like the lives you're changing, we need to be louder about this. We need people. I mean, there's too much hurt, too much pain in the world. People just suffering with pain. They don't need chronic pain at the doctors at all. This is just what it is, you know, right in them often. We're helping people who had from, you know,

the war 30 years of pain now dancing around the wheelchair. Yeah, a daughter. I can't imagine those stories, you know, two doors down, can't even walk home. Friends in the middle of all, drop into the floor and can't move forward. Like that's painful for everybody. And that, this is not just fixing that. It's crazy. And so it's, it's one of those things that say it's not the answer to everything, right? Like there's, we have so many good things in the world right now,

but it's, I just feel like, and this is what I always pitch. I just say it's one of the tools that

everyone should have. Like, you're going to have a medical cabinet full of hydrogen peroxide, right? Like, kind of a no-brainer in your neosporin. It's like, this is one of those things that should be in that medicine cabinet because it's awesome. And is there any, uh, is there, was there any indication of wearing it too long or having it on too much or is it just something? No, I wear mine all the time. In fact, um, so I, I actually, this is what's funny. So we never, no one ever tells

their whole story, right? So I invest in this company. They're building the antennas. It wasn't me that figured out how to make it not, like, help a discomfort. It was my business partner Daniel

“that ran the factory. So he calls me and he's like, dude, you need to come check this out. He's like,”

you, you'd be floored what this does actually for back discomfort and late discomfort needs shoulders. He's like, this is crazy. And I was like, yeah, not interested. I, I literally was the guy saying dude, this is stupid. Like, I'm not, this is dumb. And finally, I'm out visiting him. I'm just visiting him at his office. And I had back pain. So what had happened for me is I'd blown out a disc in my, I was, I was a cross fitter. We owned a cross fit gym. And we were doing

those, those, uh, overhead cleans. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You know how you're competing? I did too much and it just is bad. So for eight years, um, if I put more than a hundred pans on my back, it would pop back out. It was just a weak link at that point. And so Dan married it, got me to put one on and back then it looked like a mouse pad. It's what he built it into. It looked like this mouse pad. I'm like, you're the so dumb. And I stick it on in like 10 minutes later. I'm like, what the heck?

“It doesn't hurt anymore. And that's what got me to invest in like, start building the patches that”

he put this mouse pad on me and I experienced it. And then I was like, no way. And so I started from there. And I just think I understand why people go there because there's so much crap out there anymore. And everyone says they have something that does miracles, like you MLMs, like they're everywhere,

But that's why we do the money back guarantee is like, I get it. But like, try it.

“It's, it's a no-brainer. Well, I mean, here it is, right? It's Signal Relief. It's Signal Relief.com.”

Signal Relief.com. Yep. And then you have the show. They just get the coupon code everything in the show notes for sure. I got, I'm just going to say, you have nothing to lose and from the sounds of it, everything to gain, either for yourself or someone you love, your, your parents, whoever it might be. Mike. Yeah. I mean, changing lives. I mean, I mean, we're waking up and getting messages like that.

“I can't, like that's those are, that's what we call as priceless. Oh, it's, it's the best. Like my,”

my CEO on Thanksgiving, when you're sending out your Thanksgiving text, text, he was like,

you'd have always wanted to have a job. This is a guy that actually, I talked into coming over here,

but he'd already retired. He's already very successful business guy. He'd be graduated from Columbia and he just done well with nursing homes. And he's like, I've always wanted a job that I just woke up every day excited to go to work. And he goes, signals given me that. I just want to thank you for this opportunity. This is different. Anything I've experienced. And I just think, when you can work,

and it's not about money, finally, right? Yeah. Then it's really fun to go to work every day.

“And that's, that's, that's what this has done for us. So changing lives. I love it. I love it.”

Well, Mike, it's appreciate to be, I really, I really appreciate you stopping in and being here. And that, and as be part of this journey of so many people's lives. So I'm going to say this, if you buy from, from the links here, and it changes you, I want you to send me a message. I want to hear about this. I want to hear about who is helped. So we can get the message out to more people. That'd be awesome. Thank you, man. I appreciate it.