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Pop Extra Preview: Chappell Roan Discussion

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What's going on, Household -- have you been following all the Chappell Roan drama? Well we dove into it on last Friday's episode of Pop Extra. Here's a free preview. For more exclusive Viall Files+ co...

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Yeah. Okay. That was like-- Okay, it's continue. Jeff hates.

Jeff hates River. So like River and Steve, she calls Steve Lulu. Oh, our best friends, she's hugging them.

And remember, it's always like Jeff, hey.

And like Jeff, River will follow Jeff and he'll help us walk away. Yeah. And you're like, where he gets grown to be with her. We're very careful, obviously,

because despite them being great dogs, they're still dogs. So we're obviously very careful about how River approaches them. Because there's obviously too many more stories. But I want to film a video and post it. And I'm not going to because it's just like Petty

and like I shouldn't, you know. But what I want to do is film like a little video of like just moments where River chases Jeff. And Jeff's just like avoiding River and just clom. Jeff or Ron?

Jeff or Ron? [LAUGHTER] Jeff is, Jeff is, Jeff is top or Ron. Jeff Loki is top or Ron. And here's my-- here's my big thing with Chapel Ron.

I'm just like, she seems like she just-- she doesn't want to be talking to people. And she does seem rude. And I just am like, OK, we have a question about River before we fully dive into Chapel Ron.

Has she not been accepted as like one of-- and I'm not saying this, let me add context real fast. I was going to say, has she not been accepted as one of the dogs and the reason I asked that

is because what do you mean by accepted as one of the dogs?

So my little sister was younger when we had two rods.

And like they basically-- the rods accepted her as if they--

she was like part of the path. Like, mulgly. Yeah, mulgly. So they would like walk around her, bump her around, but like Steve does.

So it's a thing. So Steve has accepted her as one of the dogs. But then Jeff is like, that's a human. Do you think it's because Jeff is the eldest boy? Yeah, I mean, I think--

He's the oldest, the oldest, the oldest. Yeah. Jeff and Jeff are on pretty sure Jeff's gay, too. Yeah. All right, a gay dog.

So Jeff is jealous. He's like, column jealous, Jeff. Yeah. You're a place to look at. He's a little bit of his--

you know, he's got that sass of a gay man. Oh, the son, gay son. And then he's just watching these-- you got Steve being rambunctious. And now this little girl that gets all this attention--

Because he's like, OK, what about me? But specifically, because like Jeff likes people. Like when we have, you know, a stranger will come. And 10 minutes later, he's like asking for a scratch. Oh, he just wants to touch his--

He just wants to touch his kids. And Jammerong clearly hates children. Chapel Rose. She actually made a video saying, I don't hate kids. I feel like every week recently

has been like interesting situations. Because we had back-to-back paparazzi red carpets. Yeah. That was like last year. Yeah.

This year, it's like, she's roman around. She's out in about being social. And she just does not tolerate anybody looking at her. Like, there's a video also for her at the airport. And she's literally like, point, sees someone.

And goes, well, points in the character to the person. And there's the chapel when that person is filming her. Yeah. I think it's like she's-- Yeah.

And they're a part of it. I think it's continued on to that. No, I'm sorry. I've-- she just is living as a person in a way that, like, I don't think anyone outside of that level of start.

I'm going to understand.

And like, I think it is good for that kind of start.

I'm going to be like, no, I'm still a person. I still have boundaries. And it's just when you're setting boundaries like that. You say it all the time and ask Nick, like, you're not setting boundaries for other people that I like you.

You're setting boundaries because you don't want to like-- Protect your piece. Protect your piece. So that's what she's doing. Whether or not it makes her seem like a pleasure to be around.

That's the thing, I don't know. It doesn't seem like it's-- that's the thing. Well, what did you think about when she was in?

Was a Paris Repairs Fashion Week?

I think that it was somewhere near where she had the one video

where it was a paparazzi in a fan trying to get him autographed.

And she pulled out her phone. It was like, so these are the people that have been harassing me. It's kind of the camera. And this person has been trying to-- she's doing it, though. She's got a little abandon on it.

No, but I'm like-- these people have language barriers and like-- I know. That person's excited to be on camera with chapel and then realizes that chapel is like trolling him.

But then I also realize that this guy also stalks another celebrity, so maybe he is a person at all. Listen, the side of the chair of her own that gives her anxiety

and feels like people just don't understand boundaries.

I relate to. And I'm not. I'm not running for public office anytime soon. I don't have that kind of-- I'm not only has to like remind me to be like, hey, you know.

But I should be reminded. It's like it doesn't come naturally for me. But at the other day, it is true. Like, it's your fans that allow you to do what you do and make money from it.

And like, yeah, some fans can cross boundaries and be frustrating. But as boy George said, hey, maybe just enjoy it a lot last. And like, there's this, like, I don't know.

It's like she just, it feel like she's just gone too far

and the point where it's just no gratitude for how her life is

today in her startup and what has, you know, it's so-- I just feel like there's this like, maybe I just like a better way of doing it. I think there's Chapel Rown, the artist, and there's Chapel Rown for us a person.

I know her name's not Chapel, obviously. But like, I think she has gratitude and like engages with people when she's turning on her celebrity mode. Because like, even on the stage when you watch our concerts, like she literally, you can see her be like,

this isn't-- I've made it. Like, this is the moment and you can see her like be thankful to the crowd. Yeah, and just like-- And like, even the Miley Cyrus anniversary

from where that happened recently, she was engaging with fans. Because Chapel was there and she was friendly in those videos. But when you see her walking the streets, you can tell when she's turned off the celebrity mode and when she does that, that's when she's--

Well, that's the thing. It's just like, it's only-- she has decided that everyone is supposed to be cool of when she wants to be in this comfortable and engaging. That's her boundary, right?

It's just like-- and as we say, it's like, people don't have to like your boundary. It's your boundary. Good for you. They might have to respect it.

They don't have to like it. And they can decide to say, well, I have to-- like, I'm going to respect your boundary, but I don't want to deal with your boundaries. So I'm going to--

Which is interesting. I'm just going to distance myself. Yeah. And like, this and I don't, it's just like-- There's just-- I don't see what the upside

from her being this mean. I don't know. She is like a diva, I mean, she's giving, like, O.G. Pop of, like-- Madonna.

Britney Spears Lady Gaga, where they would like to-- They weren't Maddie Popperazzi. Is they would? Or interview her. Listen, Popperazzi, or even like interview her.

She's pretending they're not, they're not, you know?

Yeah. I'm all for, to be honest, trouble on messing with the Popperazzi and kind of bullying them back. I do understand where people have issues around the fan aspect of it, but also at the same time, it's like--

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