We saw already in one kilometer, in one kilometer of hard climbing, only one ...
We saw that Jonas was stronger than everybody else because he did drop by Lizardy. Lizardy came back, you know, but anyway, it's to be seen, you know, if Adam Yates wouldn't have crashed and, you know, some others, but anyway, yeah, Jonas already showed today
βthat he's stronger than everybody else and I think actually speaking of, you know, listeningβ
to the interview, but it's already given interview, you know, he said, "Well, I'm feeling good, my legs are great, but you know, it's Jonas, you know, it's Jonas." So, they kind of accept that he's above everybody else. Everybody, welcome back to the move, plus I'm Spencer Martin. I'm here with Johan Bernier.
We are breaking down stage 2 of the Zero Detailia and then previewing tomorrow's stage 3 stage 2 was one unexpected winner, Guillermo Thomas Silva from Uruguay, on XDS Estana, we had a little bit of GC action, you know, it's been a guard attack in the final climb, tough final climb. I guess as tough as we heighted up, we looked at the profile yesterday, Johan, he got away
βwith Julio Pelazari and Leonard Venet felt, gap, I mean, the attack was impressive, theβ
gap was never that big though and they were realed in by a large and growing chase group
about what 30, let's say, 31 or 32 riders, John Christian from UAE, bridged up with the last second, kind of broke a little bit of the cohesion in the front group when he did that and then right when the catch happened and said the last couple hundred, couple hundred meters and XDS Estana Christians growing into the front, let out his teammate, they get the win.
Two door was second with Florian Stork, Julio Chacone, your pick was third, my pick, Jonathan Revise, nowhere to be seen. We won't talk about that because we'll just blame it on the crash. There was a crash for 23 K to go, Port Ryan Mollin from NSN, pulled all day for Corbin Strong and then went 23 K to go and the GC teams were moving up, there's a crash on the left or right side of the road outside of the road depending on how you were looking
at the screen or being in the Peloton takes out a good chunk of UAE, Adam Yates goes down, this is a lot of time. Devine crashes out, Mark Solar crashes out, Port J, mine by the way, the thing this is
third time, crashing out of a race. Every time he comes back, he seems to get injured.
It's really unfortunate. The race was neutralized with about 20 K to go, D neutralized with 16 K to go right before the start of the Red Bull kilometer. So NEO's kind of, it seemed like people were caught off guard, but by this, NEO's gets six bonus seconds for you to get them all. Four for time and arms been Conner Swift on NEO's smartly takes two seconds, so no one else gets any bonus seconds. And then Jonas was kind of out of position going
into the final climb. These met one rider left, gets them to the front, he attacks, looks
βimpressive, what are your impressions, what are your key takeaways, Johan, of the stage?β
Yeah, well Spencer, first take away is for me, isn't it the big crash? I think that's
a game-changer in this stage and in the, in the zero. You know, nothing really happened. We had
the typical attack two riders from Boltives in Malta, attack from Kilometer zero. One of the guys, who's from yesterday too, what's his name, Diego? Yeah, it was a long stage, almost five, almost six hours and he's out of the whole time, so basically it was, I guess it was NSN, who was doing all the work, they were betting on Corbin's strong. And you know, looking at the way this stage developed, it without the crash, you know, maybe Corbin's
strong will have had a decent chance to win. Yeah, you know, because it was, he would have made it over this climb, I think. But anyway, it's the big crash I think was, was my main main event of the day. It was completely in the front, I think the third and the fourth rider went down it was UAE, basically took out the hall of his team. I don't know who it was, who went down, it was, it was, you know, a slight right hand in it, in a downhill and it was completely in the
front of the peloton. As you said, J vine has to abandon Mark Soler, has to abandon Adam Gates, was really, really hurt, I mean, and lose his 13 minutes. So yeah, really unfortunate for UAE, that's their zero there, done, you know, I mean, they can't do DC anymore. Yeah, now we'll see, I mean, and plus they lose to really strong riders with J vine and Mark Soler, show you know that the preparation of a long period, like for example, Santiago-Betrago,
His whole season was based on the DC in the, in the Giro, he also had to aban...
It now depends, you know, if these guys can recover, some guys recover from these crashes and then basically have a, you know, change their program and they put them in the tuna front
and they have a great tour. There's always a silver lining, but anyways, it's never good to crash out.
Out of a ground tour, especially in the beginning. That changed the whole dynamics of the stage.
βI think, you know, as you said, you know, it was briefly neutralized for about five kilometers.β
I think the main reason was, well, first of all, it's a decision of the race direction and the UCI commissars together. Usually, you know, they, when it's a big crash like this, even in the final of a race, I think the main reason was the ambulances. They probably needed at least three ambulances to take care of people. So they have, basically, then I guess there's back of ambulances, but, and then they also waited until the majority of the riders who had crashed or back,
but you kind of know that that's just a court decision. You know, if you went down really hard there and you get back, it was just before the bottom of the climb. It's game over. You can't come back. The only rider, the only rider, a GC rider who I saw who went down and then came back,
βis Phenic's call, who was still in pretty good position. Derek G also went down pretty hard,β
made it back, but got dropped. You know, if it happened so late in the stage and I had these beats, I don't know. Was it wet when they were crashing? Was it wet? It was, yeah, it was quite rainy. And it was downhill into a corner in the rain. Yeah, I mean you had to beat yeah. Yeah. Two stages, two big crashes, man. That's not a good start of the zero. It's not great for Bulgarian either. Bulgaria, Bulgaria. I don't know if it's Bulgaria's fault. I thought,
I mean, yesterday was probably too narrow. Today, I thought the course was pretty good. Look, of course, it's not their fault, it's not their fault. But yeah,
things like this happen, especially if it's bad weather in the first stages of a grand tour,
everybody's fresh, everybody must be in the front. These things tend to happen. But then, listen, finally the race goes on, you know, to bad for the guys who stayed behind. That's cycling.
βAnd we still saw a really good race on that climate. It was actually, I think, a lot harder thanβ
people expected. And yeah, Visma landed out with Piganzoly. I think it was Piganzoly who was setting the pace for ever on that ground. Only Jonas, I wouldn't say it was an attack. It was an acceleration. He didn't come out on the saddle in his first acceleration, which is something that we that I've seen already several times this year. You know, he's got both him and Piganzoly to do this. Now. Yeah. So I don't know if it's something that they trained on, but it works.
Yeah, whatever it is, it's working. Yeah, I don't think Velizari and Leonard Faneid felt from Lotto into Mashaqud follow, really impressive on it, so by the way. And it looked like these three guys were going to sprint for the win. But, but finally, there was a regroup and then the last kilometer. And yeah, I mean, what a win for this guy. I know Guillermo Tomas Silva from Uruguay. First year on XDS Astana comes from Kaharural.
I checked his results, but he had a few results already last year. I mean, even the year before, he recently won the overall of the tour of what is it, Hainan? Yeah, that's a tour of Hainan. I mean, it's not a high level race, but still as a sprinter, you know, winning two stages and the G.C. It was not the first competition, but still he came in in great shape. I don't top of that. It shows that the guys really had faith in him because a guy like Scaroni,
as soon as he saw that Silva was in the main group, he didn't hesitate and that didn't incredible lead out. So they knew that he was fast and that he had a chance. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's super impressive. And I mean, we should also mention young, young, Christian with that late bridge was incredibly impressive, and then kind of killed the group. Because once he's up there, they were working really well together. He's up there, there's
then a tax. You kind of know what's going to happen. I don't think the ticker was right as we're
showing 21 seconds. I don't think that was right. They were never more than it seemed like seven or
Eight seconds behind.
they obviously didn't plan it because how would you plan this? But they seemed to not be
taken aback by, oh, we're in house friendship for the win. A lot of guys seem like I don't like even Jonas was like, I don't really know what to do right now and Estana knew exactly what to do. Get to the front win. Tudor misses out on a win. I thought Julie Chicone looked pretty good. What do you think about Leonard Benett felt as a GC guy? I had not had this in my calculation and then the way he looked today on that climb was pretty impressive.
βYeah, I mean, I saw an interview from him after the race and he said, I mean, I think he hadβ
some bad luck already. He, uh, I think he, not if he'd crashed hard and down under or something. Then he was a new A2er that he had some issue there. He was up there in a few stages. I think one
stage he was third or four. And then he must have had another issue because he only came back
into action in flesh. Bravo. So, um, but listen, he's a good rider. You know, he won. He won UA2er a couple of years ago. I think and he also won the two of Wang Chi, the famous high level two of Wang Chi in the same year. The double two. It's a world to race. So, uh, we were joking but that isn't impressive to win UA2er in Guangji. I mean, they couldn't be further apart on the calendar. That's a exact strong year. So, um, he, uh, he said that today his role was to get the Pink Jersey.
So, uh, he had a lot of confidence. Uh, must feel that he's in great shape probably, you know, like he, he, he looks like he's one of those riders who's really data-driven, uh, knows his numbers, and knows what he can do and what he cannot do. Um, now as a GC rider, I, I don't think so.
βUm, he may be, I mean, he may be up there for a few stages, but I think in the high mountains,β
it's going to be heartbreaking. And what do you think about Elazari? Yeah, definitely going to be the number one rival for you and us, although I think that you and us is a level above, uh, everybody, including Buddy Daddy. Detarded, no. I mean, just based on what we've seen hard to know. Oh, because he didn't drop him. But that's not even a good climb for him, really. Not really. I mean, you know, we saw already in one kilometer, in one kilometer of hard climbing,
only one kilometer. We saw that Jonas was stronger than everybody else because he did drop Balizari, but it's our way came back. Um, you know, but anyway, it's to be seen, you know, if, if Adam Yates wouldn't have crashed and, you know, some others. But anyway, uh, yeah,
βJonas already showed today that he's stronger than everybody else, and I think actually speakingβ
of, you know, listening to the, to the interview, but it's already given interview. You know, he said, yeah, I'm feeling good. My legs are great, but, you know, it's, it's Jonas, you know, it's Jonas. So they kind of accept that he's above everybody else. I don't know if we said this, he had a not like 94 second acceleration, 540 watts. So at the, at the zero, you get real power. You don't have to estimate it because you said in the pre-show RCS as a deal with the teams to get their
power data. It's super interesting. Um, so that's like over nine watts per kilo. So he's probably probably pretty fit, as you say, question for you though. Why, why did this happen? Why did he attack? What's what's to be gained by this? Well, first, I think the main, this and the main objective of Fismat today, contrary to yesterday was stay out of trouble. I mean, yesterday they wanted to
stay out of trouble by being in the back. Today it was completely the opposite. They were always
in the front, every single downhill they took in the front. And today it's, it was clear also once Jonas, after the crash, she got a bit out of position, uh, then we mean, it was clear and he can have, but, but it is owned by his own strength. He came to the front. He had peans only, selling the pace. It's to stay out of trouble. Uh, what's better to stay out of trouble than, you know, attacking and being with a small group. Because imagine they come over that climb. I mean, that downhill
was not not easy. It was not, it was tricky. And especially already with what happened, you know, they also feel the state of the road, you know, it's slippery. Uh, there was dirt on some corners, you know, some some reliefs. Um, even on the uphill, you could see in the heavens, they had to slow down because it was, it was, uh, there was not much grip on the road. So, um, I think it was more out of precaution. And, uh, yeah, I mean, he did what acceleration, then you're safe at the same time. Listen,
If then if you can go and try it with the stage, why not?
try it with the stage, which I think he had a chance with those three guys. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if he beats when I felt, if they were to line together. He's worth it. It's not slow either, you know, but he's out. He's also, so well, that's well, then that, I mean,
βI think you're, I, I'm just saying this to say this, but I think you're right that getting overβ
the climb in front of the group, probably is the safest thing, because then you're picking your own line. Having said that, let's say he pulls them to the, or he works, they get to the line,
he gets third in that group. They get time bonuses. Do you feel differently about the decision?
No, no, no. You know, it's not going to need any modification. I mean, I, I could be out of my mind. I think, I mean, I think we said this yesterday. He's only since 2020. He's only lost to two riders. Tadate Pagachar, Devage Go Do, in stage racing. I'm not counting subcoose. So Pagachar is not here. I'll probably win. I don't know. I just, I thought it was kind of interesting. Like, hmm. If he pulls them to the line and they outspread them, and he
loses time, is that a good decision? Well, Spencer, you know, you stay with your, his team had everything under control. And then once he was out of teammates, then the best defense is the, the, the attack. It's simple. You know, well, he was out of, yeah, well, he dropped his teammate when he attacked. I love that. It was obviously setting a pace for him to, you know, to, to launch an attack.
βI think, um, and it was, you know, it was two, two kilometers, two really hard kilometers. Iβ
would say almost three kilometers, really hard. So, um, I was actually surprised that it took so long for, for, for, for the, to have some separation in that group. It stayed together quite a long time. Yeah, our back. So, we probably use a lot of energy to do that. And then three K for riders that good, I mean, and yeah, I, I'm actually surprised he got the separation he did because, you know, three K, it was tough, but it's not easy to create, especially this early in Grand Tour,
not easy to create separation. That one at GC Group like that. Um, he looks good. Looks like he's fine. Pillow's Ari looks very good. Leonard Bennett felt didn't see it coming. He looks great. The crash, obviously, is game changing for UAE. They lose pretty much everything. Oddly, they almost, they lose everything. They almost win the stage. That would have been quite the day for them.
βI, I think we're, we're probably all worse off that Adam Yates and J Vine at or Adam Yatesβ
is out of the GC J Vine's out of the race. Mark Scholar's out of the race. That, yeah, is not great for any of us watching. Um, you're not, you're not too concerned about the Red Bull kilometer, bonus seconds that he can run all picked up. No, I was surprised nobody went for them. They were seemed like free seconds. Yeah, it was. Yeah. I mean, yeah, but not as now, because of that,
he's now in as he is in third in GC. He's in third, six seconds ahead of everybody else,
except for his men who's two seconds behind. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. So, real winter the day, you can burn off. No, if you really think about it. You know, it's clear that we have to get used to the name, no, not company, not company, right? Not company. That's company and AOS. Soon to be that company, another company name, not an AOS. No, not not company, total energies. What's going to happen with total energies? Well, for you know, if you think there's an announcement that an AOS is disappearing
from the name of the team. Well, they're, they're going to sell that spot to somebody that we don't know yet. Um, I, well, it can't be total energies this year, because they already have a team name, so you can't have two teams all there. There's still on there. Yeah. There's still on there. I, it's not, I would imagine they'll try to fill the second title spot or the second name in spot and total energy stays on is another partner. And then you're getting close to UAE money.
You hope what's going to happen to UAE? We don't know. Um, also before we move on, we should say poor Ryan Mullin guy pulls all day for NSN, you know, the gaps of the breakaway gets up to like five minutes. Someone's got to come to the front. NSN blinks comes to the front starts pulling and then he crashes and NSN goes down. Not like that's the unglam or side of being a professional cyclist. It's wet. It's chilly. You're out there by yourself. Um, pulling all day and then you crash
and your team does not get what they wanted out of it. Also, we're, we're a real cool calder moment. Yeah. We had no clothes left on his back. And you know, and the camera man was not very gentle
even. Why did they do that? It was not nice. They're always man. Yeah. Any time that happens,
The cameraman is all over it.
Anything else on this stage before we move on? Um, I don't, nothing, nothing, but I mean, listen, I mean, again, I'm a superman. I think we have to highlight, you know, this, this victory, you know, 24 years old Ryan, first participation of an Uruguayan rider in the Jiro and first win also in pink. Wait, wait, first ever participation?
βI think that's what I, that's what I, that's what I heard. First Uruguayan rider and theβ
portus in in the Jiro. I'm going to look into this. I can't think of many Uruguayan riders, man, in the past. Yeah. The only thing is like 50, 50 to 100 years ago, they were such a sports powerhouse that, yeah, maybe there's not, but they're like one of six
countries to ever win the World Cup. But yeah, maybe there has never been a second.
I don't know who knows. I don't know that much about Uruguay. Never, never made it across the river. He's going to be a god in his country. I saw a very, very nice interview of his father who was at the finish line behind barriers with a bunch of Uruguay and flags. And it was really nice, very emotional interview, very nice. Yeah, that, I mean, how did the stone even get them on the team? He was on the powerhouse. He was on the powerhouse and he was on the powerhouse. And I had a few
good results. And a few good results in those, you know, pro races or pro races or whatever you call the dot pro, yeah, second division races. And then I'm going to guess she probably has a good agent connections with those teams. But anyways, you know, it's clear that they saw the potential because you know, you don't win the stage like this if you don't have any any potential. That's it was a hard stage. You had to be there in this group. It's kind of a crazy, so he was at the
vault last year. Yeah. Hardest stage of the race to Angolo, he gets 36. I had a head of quite a few
βriders, actually. I was a junior. I think he did two top top 10 finishes and then he did aβ
DNS stage after. Interesting. Yes. You're right. Yeah, top 10 both stages. The sounds are there.
Yeah. Third and his own road race championships. He's been already a few
times you were wine champion. Interesting. Well, also Pigginsolo, you mentioned he was on Pulti Vismalto last year. What a pick up for Vismalto, right? Great signing, great signing. Yeah. He was key on that final climb. And that's a guy they just picked up from Pulti Vismalto. Somebody get what's like I'm Merco Meostri is that was in the break away today. Maybe someone just sign him. But so that's it for the stage. We'll move on. Yeah. Okay. Let's take a quick break and
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G-USTO.com/demove. Okay, you're on tomorrow's stage three. Our last stage in Bulgaria. I actually think Bulgaria is kind of the they're shining here. I'm more likely to visit Bulgaria than I was before maybe for cycling trip. So I guess that's the win. This is 175. Bad the weather's normal. I mean, if the weather would be better, they could showcase the country a little bit. That's true. It is, you bring up a good point. It is a bit of a crap shoot. When you do the zero is just the hardest
weather beast of all the grand tours early May. I mean, especially in Europe, it's just very it can be very wet. Even there's so many stages of the zero in Italy that are just, you're like,
Man, I would never go to this town.
every, you know, just because it's, it can be a really rainy cold month. Tomorrow, though, it's supposed to be beautiful weather. And so fee of the capital 175 kilometers finishing in the capital. We have a mountain pass mid stage, but 75 k from the finish. I don't expect it to split anything up. 9 k along at 5%. There's a red bull kilometer sprint with 12 k to go 13 k to go. I don't think that I actually am curious to see what happens there. But then we go into Sophia for a
sprint finish. Presumably, who do you think's going to win the stage? Do you think it's going to be a
βsprint in a break away? Yeah, I think it's going to be a bunch for the Spencer, you know, there's thisβ
client. It's 9 k along and there's not a climb. Not five cent average. So way too far from the finish to have somebody or a team, you know, increase the pace and try to drop. I mean, maybe some teams with sprinters who can climb better could set a pace in order to drop other sprinters. Like, for example, we're going to weigh again or Milan, Milan's not going to get dropped. Manier doesn't look like he's going to get dropped. Groves can get over it. So
and there's not a lot of incentives for teams to make it hard on the sprinters. You know, in normal circumstances, you can say maybe an SN with carbon strong, who climbs, probably better than everybody else on the sprinters. But then, you know, carbon strong
βand down to the, you know, so, no, I think whatever happens, there's 75 k to go basically all,β
I mean, made mostly downhill or flat, so a bunch of sprinter moral. Yeah, it'd be so hard to hold them off. If you even if you drop someone, you know, yeah. So you think, wait, did you say, did you say anything's going to win? No, no, no, a bunch of sprints. So I think a bunch of
oh, manier, oh, manier is going to win again. Yeah, I'd have, first of all, because I haven't seen
anybody, that's also something that we have to take into account. You know, we don't know which teams have people implicated in this crash, which the day after, obviously, you are, as an advantage when you have riders who are hurt, if you have one or two riders who are part of your lead out train, went down. That obviously has an influence. So I didn't see any of the Sudhakwiks, the riders hurt or down. Oh, manier looked good. You know, he was dropped. That was
βnormal, but I think he's good enough and he's fast and with, you know, the motivation and the moralβ
of the, and he's in the Chiclanino jersey also, with a decent advantage, I think he has 55 points in the next one has like 30 something points. Well, I won't ask you about this. So what is going on with these points? So yeah, he's got a huge lead. He is 55 points next one's 35. No, Jonathan Milan, who won the intermediate sprint, only has his way down. I can't find him, but like, so what happens if there's two riders away, then that means the Peloton is sprinting for five points. And then at the
finish, there is like on a sprint stage, there is 50 points on offer. Why do they wait it like that? Is that that's not normal for grand tours? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I had looked at the way these points are divided, but or distributed, but yeah, I mean, it's, yeah, I think the intermediate sprint should definitely be a bit more important than just what is it, you know, it's not even,
I mean, it's about points for first, but you're almost never going to get there before the
break away. So you almost shouldn't sprint for the intermediate sprint points. Yeah, like the way they're sitting up. Also Spencer, and then usually, I mean, even in the tour, although in the tour, you know, it's a little bit higher level in terms of those intermediate sprint, but even in the geo, you see, I mean, they don't really go full gas. They just try to be in a good position and get some points, you know, like, if your rival gets five, well, you're trying to get four.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and then it's like the delta is so small that you've, not spent that much energy, but yeah, he's, he's way far out in the lead on the Chicoomino.
Yeah. So I think with, with his, with the motivation of the first sprint,
that he won, really dominantly, I, I'm going to pick full money again, sort of way to more. It's not, I mean, he was by far the fastest rider on stage one. So in that respect, great pick,
He looks great, super versatile rider.
tomorrow is other riders, but I'm going to pick Thomas loomed on Dreson only because I thought
money looked very cold today, like visibly bothered by the cold. His hands were numb. He's trying to like shake his hands. He just kind of looked like he does not have any great time in the cold. So I'm going to pick someone from Denmark because maybe they dress better. Maybe he's less cold than money. And I have to say loomed on this, is it on Dreson looms? Yeah, and there's
βhim the Thomas loomed on Dreson, I believe, on Dreson. Okay, well, okay, it's anyway, anyways,β
sorry, there was a Thomas, it's still by his. Yeah, he was, he was there for a very long time on that line. I mean, he was in a, yeah, on the top was in a group, he was not far behind. I think they just barely just didn't make it back, or maybe he got dropped on the last inkliner or something, but he was, he was definitely quite a bit ahead of, of money and and of Milan. I don't know where Milan was, by the way, on the climate. I hope that he tried.
He was Milan was, he was two minutes back, but you're right. So loomed was a minute behind. I believe he was in a group with Derek, G, West to last, one minute, I don't think we said that,
one minute, one second. You're like, well, not great, and he crashed. Terrible. No, still a better,
still a better start in last year. Great performance from Derek G, by the way, because he went down hard, took a while before he could get going again. Yeah. And you know, started the climate lost position and was hurt. So not, not too dramatic, not too difficult for him, considering that, you know, what it could have been me. Yeah, I mean, even, some of these guys, I mean, that was a great ride from him, but what's weird is if he go back to stage one last year,
he lost 57 seconds on a sprint stage where I guess just some guys start colder than others, but if when he can sit or that time loss, today doesn't seem as bad. You know, he only lost 61 seconds and you're in a bad crash, and he had a chase back on Derek G. Also, on Derek G, I was looking at little track, they are not in a great place. So they have eight wins this year. Sounds good. Six of those have come from Milan. Only three races since the European season, three wins since
the European season started in February. That's not great for a team that spent that much money.
βWhat, they spent so much money in the transfer market that I think someone said they could haveβ
started a second team with that amount of money. And they have three European wins to show for
it. That is not a great. That's a great team. In turn around pretty quickly, but yeah, no, I hadn't paid attention to that, but yeah, not ideal. But I really noticed it, because yesterday I was like, well, Milan's had a better season than I thought, because he's won all these races, but then it's like, oh, he started incredibly well wins a state stage at Adriatico and they just has not worked himself since. Did something happen to him? By the way, he said, he said, yes,
yesterday, he did say that he did, he just didn't have the likes, you know, just didn't have the likes. Yeah, still did 2010, what's maximum power? That's crazy.
βWhat is that? If he has the legs, is it 2,200? Yeah, it's a, yeah, 2500 watts, what's he doing?β
I mean, he has to, but when you see how on arrow, he is though, he's got to put out a lot of power. By the way, he's really spent. I checked yesterday, I said, Monday, I estimate more or less 1750. It was 1710 watts, maximum, and 1350 average, and the last minute or something for money interest in the last, I gave you the last minute. That would be so many watts. It's probably the last like 30 seconds or something, but that's a lot of power for a guy. You have this, you know, this might not the same. It's a different
discipline, right? But the guy who, who got the world record on the kilometer, Jeffrey Hoglant. He did, he did, he did, so the one kilometer standing start standing start, not a flying start. Well, standing start, I don't remember the exact time, but it's, it's under a minute, of course. It's, I don't know what it is. His maximum power was 2,500 watts. Woo, I mean, the guy's beast. Yeah, yeah. It's not, it's not, nothing compared to road racing,
but I don't know exactly over how long that was for money, but still, 1710 watts for a guy who
Weighs 70 kilos, that's pretty impressive.
not a lot of weight. My mate, a friend that was a pro track sprinter for a while,
βshout out Kevin Salker, and he would get dropped, like, on local group rides, because he would, you know,β
they're so big that you can't, you know, that you, like, can't climb at all. So, it does come at a cost. There's a reason that guys aren't just back in the day. I mean, this is what this is, what this is,
20 years ago, 20 years ago, Chipolini told me once that his maximum was back then, 1800 watts, back then.
βYeah, yeah, I was wondering, yeah, because I mean, that is a lot, 1800, that's like, nothing,β
but, yeah, I mean, Chipolini was also more ero than Lawn. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, so, that is interesting. It's kind of sobering to think about how fast Chipolini was and how
and beatably was, and then you compare them to the guys. Now, I mean, the even thing about Mark
βCavendon, she's probably not putting out more than 15, 1600 watts. Yeah, 100. Yeah. Yeah.β
And, but he was winning in this modern era, which is even more impressive. He wanted just what two years ago with the two of the friends. Also, Kevin Sucker did lose the way Andy was a great climber. I just want that on the record. I don't want Kevin get mad at me, but I'm going to pick Lewand Andrews, and I'm watching Milan. If Milan doesn't win tomorrow, I mean, it is a big day for little trek, because they need to win. Tomorrow would, would get them back on track, as you say.
So, there's actually a lot at stake, and then we have a travel day Monday, and then we're back Tuesday. And so, but we'll be back to break down tomorrow's stage, and then we'll be taking Monday. You're picking a picking Lewand. Yes, Lewand. Yes, Lewand. Yes, Lewand. We'll get it straight. He wins this. He wins this stage. We'll get his name, right? That's our promise. Yeah. There you go, Tobias. That's your incentive. But yeah, I thought he looks pretty
good on the climb. I thought he looked a little less bothered by the weather. We'll see if that helps him. Okay. Thanks, Johan, and we'll talk tomorrow. Okay, bye bye. (upbeat music)
