This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von
This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#651 - Ella Langley

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Ella Langley is a country singer-songwriter from Hope Hull, Alabama. Her new album “Dandelion” is out this Friday April 10th wherever you stream music.  Ella joins Theo to talk about growing up in a...

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Just a reminder that tickets for bus boys, the movie, with myself and David S...

It's in theaters April 17th, but if you get tickets now, it'll show the movie theaters that we're going to sell them,

or that they are selling, and then we can expand to more theaters. So if you know when you're going to go and you can support that would be great, and no pressure if you can't. Again, the pre-sale tickets are available, busboysmovie.com, I'm excited. Thank you.

Today's guest is one of the biggest country artists in the game right now, and I think for the future,

she's got that power in her voice, she's got that, you know, it's it's raw, but refined, it's it's delightful. Her new album Dandelion is out Friday, April 10th, wherever you stream music and she'll be taking it on tour as well. I'm excited to sit down today with the one of one Miss Ella Langley. And it's a little warm here, do you all feel that? I feel great.

All right. You feel that you want a little flow? Yeah, that's my little brother. The order to get you, I know he is, I met him on the way in. You made the whole family now pretty much.

Hey, I have. I have. That guy was press off the, press off the damn boat. He seemed like he had some real grit to him. We'll talk about him.

You could say that. Yeah. He do. He do. Yeah, yeah, he do.

Yeah, I met y'all's granddaddy, he was a real.

He definitely seemed like he could just fix a flat tire with his tongue. That guy had some grit in it. What? I mean, not like in a pervert away. Just I mean, he seemed like he could just hold a car up while somebody fixed a tire.

He does love cars. Does he really? Yeah. I didn't know that. I'm Tesla's big Tesla guy.

He loves him. He's like one of them future babies or whatever. Sure. Yeah. But I mean, he's like a guy that I don't know.

I've pictured it in more of like a garage type of guy. Maybe, I don't know. Maybe I didn't. He said he went to see the grateful dad. I think I remember him saying.

Yeah, he's my hippie grandpa. Okay. Yeah.

So my parents are split into kind of like my mom's.

You might hurt too. Oh, yeah, I met your mom. Yeah, you did. Dude, I met your mom. I talked to her for probably almost 20 minutes.

And you're hanging out with my mom and my grandpa. Yes. What was going on here? I don't know what was going on. Maybe it's my real family.

Yeah, was that jelly roll show? Lines. Jelly roll was there, though. Yeah. And you were on it, too.

I walked out there. You sang. Yeah. Yeah. You guys did a great job.

It was awesome. Yeah, I was cool. She's so good. Yeah, she is just really. And she like kind of embraced.

I think some people get to certain points in their career where they kind of embrace.

I mean, this like thing that's bigger than them. Mm-hmm. And I think she like, she's done that kind of. Yeah, she's so good at giving her all the time. Yeah.

I feel like I have to have time away, like recluse time. And if I don't get that, then I'm like an insane person, even more than usual. Really. That's how I am. Yeah.

But Lines, dude, she just goes and goes and goes. Like, even after the, um, CMA awards, we went to her bar afterwards. Here she is in her last outfit or Camo outfit. You know, like the cape, the badass thing she had on. I haven't seen that.

Bring up that Camo. She's in a damn Camo cape. Yeah, it was really good. Oh. I love that outfit.

But she's then she's in there shaking everyone's hand. You know, meeting everyone. She just hosted the awards by herself and running around. And yes, she just goes. Yeah.

Oh, she looks like a nice, beautiful duck blind. I feel like. Yeah.

I mean, I bet a lot of fellows would show up to want to hunt from that, I think.

But anyway, she's also married, I think. But anyway, sorry. What are we talking about? Yeah, almost. Um.

Okay. Let me think about where we should start from. Sorry. You grew up in church. I did.

I don't think it was like the best church or whatever, though. Look on. What denomination. It was like six. I think maybe six baptists or something.

I'm not even sure. It was like six baptists. It was like one of the, Yeah. It was, it was, it was, yeah.

It was pretty, it was wild. Yeah. Now I grew up with Southern Baptist. You did. Oh, gosh.

It was really small church. It started in a barn. Um. The house that I also grew up in my dad grew up in. And there was an old barn across the street.

Yeah.

And it started in hay bales on that barn.

And then they moved it to a church. I mean, every Sunday and Wednesday. Yeah. That was 18 years old. Was it a big part of your social life, too?

Yeah. Yeah. I was homeschooled for some years. So pretty much all we did was go to church. No.

And what state were you homeschooled in? Alabama? Yeah. South Alabama. It's Montgomery.

That's one place. I don't know if I would accept homeschooling in to be honest. We didn't do any much school. You know. You just played outside.

Oh, yeah. But that's sometimes the best school. It really was. Oh. Like my imagination got to live longer than most.

Yeah. That's a good point. Because you kind of take kids. Like this way. It's almost like being a laboratory to school.

Yeah. Like you're sitting under them. There's lights or whatever. Some kids eat in paste or whatever. And you're supposed to like not say something.

Yeah. I got in trouble a lot. I'm going to kindergarten in first grade.

And I was always in trouble.

Like what was the crime you were guilty of? Talking. Distracting others. Yeah, too.

Well, how many was that in school when you got back on your thing?

Distracting others. Distracting others. I had like a designated seat in the corner. It was like this little green. Metal desk and it was facing the corner.

I just like sit over there. Oh. I know. Distracting others. And what do you think you were distracted?

I'm problem probably. I don't know. Anything. Just talking. And were you trying to get people to see you?

You think or you were just. You had something to say. What it was going on near Illinois. I just think that school was boring for me. I did not like that.

God. I did not like it at all. The whole time. Naps. I hated it.

Let me have to sit still. We had this lady named Mrs. Robin. She kind of had air like yours a little bit. And she would. On that time.

At when that Rudy's asleep.

She'd come over and kind of kick me a little bit. And she let me go out with her and watch her smoke cigarettes. And she's. So what I mean, she's pretty good. Yeah, my cool.

And her husband was apparently. He had some domestic charges or whatever. But anyway, she let me spend time with her and watch her smoke. And if we needed it. Yeah.

I hear a confidant at a young age. Yeah. Did I'll just sit and make sense. Just lean in on this tire this car. Life lessons is lady.

You know. You're like, well, you know what I would do. He's like, yeah, Carl is a piece of shit. You know, just helping her out with you with smoke. And she had this kind of like this kind of country.

You know, someone's that when they get that feathered real country feathered look. You know, when it has a fair falsity. A lot of feathers. Yeah. A lot of feathers going on.

Just a damn mallard of a woman, you know. Yeah. But I remember that. That was a good time. I remember.

But yeah, when you got distracting others. It was just like, gosh. Yeah. And you were guilty of it, too. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I had a bunch of eye surgeries when I was young. And so like for the muscles and my eyes. And what happened?

You had bad eye muscles. Yeah. Sometimes I just feel a little cross on. Yeah. Oh, God.

You know, all young. And you were in the choir. Two was used that cross. I'd go to singing in the choir. Everywhere I was.

Yeah. Everyone was singing my heart out. But then I had some surgeries. And then teachers like she just is not been intentional. So homeschooled until 6th grade.

And then 7th grade went back to the same high school. My dad went to graduate with 32 kids. But how could you pay attention if your eyes weren't even team. Like, melodies or whatever? No, the doctor described it to me.

I just had another one like two. Maybe three years ago. And it's kind of brutal.

Honestly, like they have to take your eyeballs out.

You're lying. I swear. It's not good in there. It's crazy. And they go inside.

Yeah. Get in there. What's it called? I don't know. Damn.

I just called it eye surgeries. Yes. Yeah. But yeah. That's fair.

But she described it to me like a horse and carriage. You know, only have two horses. And one can't be going this way. And one can't be going this way. That is not going to work.

So they got to learn to work together. And mine just never did. And now you got them trusty steads in your face, huh? Yeah. Sometimes I slip up.

But that's just good character. You can just go like that. Yeah. I just let everybody like this. You know.

Yeah. I get them in line. Winky, winkin' in line. Yeah. That's wild.

You all have school dances. Well, I guess you've used homeschool. But if you got it. Once you went to your dad's school, the same school he went to. Did you guys have the dances at school?

Yeah. I was like normal school.

Did you all have like Sadie Hawkins stuff like that?

Was like kind of Southern style or what was that? No. It wasn't like a rich private school. This is. Well, Sadie Hawkins country.

I was Sadie Hawkins, I guess. Yeah. You know, the girl had asked the guy and he had to get him a shirt that matched. You had to do matching shirts or whatever. You know, he didn't have it.

But he got a dance. What did y'all do with only that many students in the class? I would just stand. I don't know. We just danced around.

Usually we didn't stay that long. We'd go to like a bonfire, something afterwards. But was it hard to date? Like in a school that small was it hard to fall? Like was it what was the energy like that?

I mean, even known all these people your whole life. You know, they're, you know, what they're driving. You know what their parent drive. I mean, yeah.

I mean, you know how it is.

Yeah.

That's why I really, this town and this job is very similar to a small town.

You get used to, um, like I kind of look at the fame thing like that now. You know, because when you're a small town, like, I would hear shit about me all the time. I'm like, I did what? You know?

Yeah. I think I don't even just get used to that. So. Do you think not being from Nashville is better coming into this kind of place? Like is it, does it, when you get here?

Does it get so like, is like the music scene, uh, for lack of a better term? Is it more like, is it so some type of way? If you're from Nashville, do you think it feels different? Probably. I mean, orange from Nashville.

I mean, and he's been here the whole time. But I'm wondering, I guess I just like, does he feel like more of a pressure or more responsive? But I'm wondering, I guess I just wonder if anything is different. Like, if you come from an outside group, does it feel tougher to feel easier, maybe, or do you? I think people probably in your town that you're from look at you a little crazier.

You know, I'm like 16 years old, playing in weddings, 18 years old. You know, I went to Auburn for two years. Emperated. But I was playing shows the whole time. Uh.

Was that your first shows down there?

Uh, no, actually my first show was at this tiny little bar called Bezos. It's, um, this lake in Alabama is called like Martin. But there's all these little... Dude, I've been on Lake Martin. Yeah.

Bring up Lake Martin. Dude, I can't even leave you said Lake Martin. Yeah, this is the like I grew up going to every summer. Really?

It's one of the actually the biggest man made, like, I believe in the...

Oh, I want to say the world. It's not the world, but it's, I think, North America, at least. It could be the world if you're from Alabama. That is the damn world. Exactly.

I remember when going to Florida would seem like it was like, God, somebody went to damn mall. Like they, they done it. Like if somebody come back from summertime and they go on the floor, did they had just done it?

They had won the world. Big time. Yes. Are they had a shirt on said Florida or Harlow? Oh, uh, one of those...

Harbrought desk. Oh, whatever. Yes.

Whatever they do with the little air gun.

What is that shit? Airbrush. Yeah. Six sunglasses. God, and just a fist jumping across the back.

Yeah. Everyone has, like, a tan line from the weird little band. Have it where it pulls your hair at the whole time. God. Lake Martin and Alabama considered the world's largest man-made lake.

Wow. Upon its completion in 1926. Created by the Martin Dam on the Tala Pooce, a river. It covers approximately 40,000 to 44,000 acres. Yeah, I had a girlfriend when I was a child.

And we went out there. And her family had a lake outside there. And we'd go out there. Do, like, uh... What's it called when you're kind of like my...

Jet keys? Jet, uh, no, no, when you're behind the, uh... You're like, on the board and you're like, behind the... Oh, a knee boarden. Yeah, you're important.

Yeah, you're important. Knee boarden, leg boarden, all of it. Yeah. Full body boarden. Footboarden?

Yeah. Yeah, just boarden. Now, you see somebody... Oh, you see somebody out there on the fucking piece of plywood out there, just managing that bits along the way.

Yeah. It was beautiful out there. Yeah, that's what we did all summer. Yeah, I love it.

And Lake Life at Lake Life is different.

Do strange shit happens out there. Especially Lake Life in the country. Yeah. There's some real perverts out there too. I will say that.

Some damp perverts or whatever. Um... Yeah. Yeah. Redneck's everywhere.

Yeah. Easter just happened. Did you guys, um... Do y'all do eggs for Easter? Deviled eggs.

Really? Yeah. You don't ever paint it eggs, Rhona? No, yeah, of course we did. Yeah.

Did you eat that little kid or whatever? Yeah, so fun. Yeah, dude. That was really nice. But what do you do with them afterwards?

I don't know. I think your grandpa would eat them or something. A lot of times we would drop them in like a senior center or something. Um... Because regular people were not having like horrible eggs.

That was more like a senior dessert. Kind of a senior delicacy, I think.

Deviled eggs are amazing.

Do you like them? I've had them once or twice. But I haven't really had them when I... Caired, I think. That had a rule at church that you could only have two deviled eggs on your first go.

Because people would find over them. They really would. We'd have pot-look every Wednesday. So like best southern food. You can think of like all these old women and they're just...

I mean, cobblers and... And we're passeroles. Were people gambling at the... Did they have that kind of thing too? Someone's just like a pop-up where they gamble at a church for fun.

No, they try not to gamble. That's the thing. Oh, yeah. It's other houses. They try.

Dude, the church bought us. See, I don't know what was going on with it. I do remember the church bus they had like... I might have been like 7th day. 7th Baptist or 7th day Advertis.

Advern. And then... But they would put those circus peanuts in wine and the kids could have those like during communion. You know those orange circus peanuts that your grandparents had.

They would put those. But they're not... If you soak them in like a...

A wall like a religious wine.

They're... They're not... They're pretty good when you're a kid. You know?

I've never seen that before.

Yeah, they would have like a wine that and you'd get one out of there. And that was just for the children. Did you all ever go to judgment houses? No, what was it?

It's like... They do it around Halloween. Okay. It's like a haunted house. Yeah.

Four Christians, I guess. Ooh. Very scary. Remember, are you the group took us?

You get in there and it's like this car crash scene.

And it's pretty much like convincing you that yes. Convincing you that like... You could die the second you walk out of here. So you better... Better settle up.

You better get saved. You better get saved. And I had already been saved. Mm-hmm. But gone through this affected me so bad.

That at the end, there were like... If you're not sure, you know, it's a downed talk. It's all like raised my hand, you know. And I sat down with the guy at the table. And the booth and we had the whole conversation.

I'll never forget coming home.

My dad was laying on the couch watching Titanic. And he... I said that. I need to talk to you about something. And I was like, I got... I got saved again tonight.

And he like... My dad pauses the TV. He's pissed off about something. You know what I mean? He's like...

That's how you know. It's like... Yeah. He said, "You did what?" I was like, "Dad, I just got so scared of this thing."

He's like, "Babe, you not..." Immediately just like, "When you are kind of a dumb ass." Because you know, that's the whole point of being saved. You didn't get saved twice. Yeah, I was so scared.

I was so scared. Yeah. Yeah. But you sound like a little bit of that danger, baby. You know?

You've always seen... I mean, I don't know you very well. But to me, you've seen like kind of like that danger, baby. You know, to see like a dang... Like a hell's angel that got, you know, just took over a damn guitar city.

You know? Like it just, you know, we just got... Went, "Hey, why aren't a Gibson store?" You know? You just seen like that, uh...

Yeah, maybe you needed it two times. I was maybe fearless, I think. Is what it is. I don't know. You feel...

You feel risky or you feel fearless. I definitely take a lot of risks. Um...

And I do have a lot of fears which is funny that I think that.

But I think... I don't know. I necessarily view myself as the same as I think everyone views me, which is funny. Hmm. But yeah, I say fearless would be the word, I don't know.

I'm just not afraid to take a chance on something, whatever it wants. If I want to do it, then... I just know like, I'm gonna do it. I don't really, even if part of me doesn't want to. Like I remember thinking as a kid with this music thing, like...

It seems like a lot. I'm just be sure that's really what we want to do. And it's like, there's this thing. It's not a mean that's like, if you don't do it, you're gonna hate your life for your whole entire life.

And so I was like, okay, but that still seems like a lot. But I just know when I make my mind up. It seems like that. I mean, just from an outsider's perspective, you just seem like... You know what's going on.

Dang it. All right. Just try to act like it. Yeah. But sometimes that's part of it.

I mean, it's really the whole thing. Yeah, it's like... Sometimes it's like pretend until the rest of you shows up and joins you. It's almost like every lived life before. Not one person is just...

Live life before. You know, I mean, this is my first attempt at life. As a human being, you know what I mean? Every in so it's yours. And everyone else is, and it's funny.

Just I think people forget that.

Yeah, there's never a lot of credit for that.

It's never like... So as I first go... We hold people to a lot of like serious stuff. And we're never like, yeah, you know what? Just first time.

It's the first time. Yeah. I mean, we need to nap. Yeah. And first of all,

if they had naps for adults for everybody, it would all be so nice. Yeah, but a nap goes one or two ways for me. Either wake up and like... I'm so glad I got that.

Or I wake up, and I'm hail on earth. Really? Mad upset. Why? I don't know.

I don't know. I just am like, oh, I just wish I could back sleep. It's one of those things you either power through or you don't. We just sound them volatile, Ella. I'm not.

You know, you sure?

I think you're the only one saying that.

I can feature you might be right. You might be right. Maybe this is that people have a perception of you that's not exact. You know, or that, I mean, nobody's perception of somebody else is. But, um, or rarely.

But yeah, maybe people have a perception of you. Did, um, whenever you were first doing shows, did they ever have like some fights at your shows, or anything like that? Like, were you in some real honky talks?

Yeah. I've thought every kind of show you can possibly imagine. Same, same. Like, I mean, restaurants, weird little wings. Sports bar things.

Funeral. Oh, yeah. Funeral. So many funerals. Weddings.

I started out with weddings. It's my first gig ever. Who would ever hire a 15 year old to play a while you're walking down the aisle? I don't know.

If they're decent, maybe, or if they're cheap.

I don't know. Yeah. Well, 200 bucks, baby. Hey. And I was like, I am rich.

Decent and cheap.

That'd be my first album.

If I ever had one. But I don't know. It was always just. Do they have fights? They have a good.

Yeah. All the time. Yeah. Yeah. You were getting one.

I got arrested in Tuscaloosa, selling coke right in front of me on the floor.

And I am just still playing, you know. No way. Random. I played a lot to remember. Fris and I can tell.

Yeah. I mean, that's crazy. Played. One of my last gigs I played. I fell through the stage.

Like, my last cover gigs. I did that for a while.

And I did like a finishing act or something.

Huh? Was it like a finishing like? No. I just there. The stage was terrible.

You just want some bad water. Yeah. They put a rug over it thinking if she can't see this whole thing. Oh. You know.

Yeah. But yeah. Played pretty much any and everything. And what is this? Oh, that's you right there?

Oh, wow. Yeah. That's it. Family reunion. I think I was like five, four or five.

Is that only Martin? No. No. That's in Brantley, Alabama. That's way out in the country.

Funny about this is when we, I remember when we pulled up here. My dad was like, we got the family union down here at the whale. A buried whale out here. And as a kid, I was like a buried whale.

Like, why would they bury a whale all the way out here?

Yeah. And you know. It was I asked my dad about that. He said, I was saying, well. Well.

So buried whale out there. Dude. Yeah. I remember I used to have to clean out wish and wells in our area. They had this thing where they was trying to do like, I guess, make money for the

area. Some were like, get a tourist thing. And so they had they installed like a lot of wish and wells and stuff. And I got a job when some are cleaning them out. So you get down there and have to get down in them.

Yeah.

I've never seen that happen.

Yeah. Yeah. And I had very small kind of lean wrists and everything at the time. I said, let me get down in there and you bring up all the stuff and like put it on the side. And you got to keep some of the change.

But then some of it you had to give to the city. But you find a lot of people a lot of just throw a lot of junk down the recyclables. Kind of a lot of to go orders to go barbecue kind of seem like anyway. You got to keep some of the change. Yeah.

You just got to pick out which ones you can. No. They kind of you gave it to them. And then they let you they kind of gave you some back. All right.

Well, that's kind of nice. It's a good gig, I guess. I liked it. Yeah. I really enjoyed it.

And I found a sword in there too, like I don't want to say. What? Yeah. I found like a I think it was kind of sword. I think it was a tang.

I don't want to say like a murder weapon or something. But I think it was a murder weapon. I think it was a weapon. I think it was a weapon. It looked like it had been used.

He imagined your murder someone and then you throw that your place to throw it in is a wishing well. Yeah. I think so. What? I wish I hadn't killed him.

Did he hit the reverse on that?

Well, I think that's how wishing was got their name.

It's like you dropped your money in a hole and you just wish you hadn't probably. Yeah. Maybe. That's what I think, maybe. Um, try.

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Did you ever get in the fight in your, in your spots or no?

Anybody ever try you from the audience or you like that? No. A lot of drunks just, you know, spilling their drinks all over the place, bumping in my microphone stand. I've had that happen a lot. Ah, that's the worst.

When I hit the end of it and it just pops you right in the mouth. Oh, yeah, because you're not really expecting that. Well, there's just so close to the stage and you're playing college bars. Yeah. So a lot of college activity over there.

Yeah. And was your family on an Auburn fan growing up then? Yeah. My mom's from Michigan.

Like I said, so she just kind of never really cared about that stuff.

My dad was an Auburn fan, but yeah, that's kind of our football thing. It's Alabama or Auburn. Yeah. There's no NFL team in Alabama, so. Yeah.

And as your folks, your folks are still together? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yes, they are.

And do you think like, what makes you laugh about that?

Um, it's been a while, Rod. But um, I haven't given up. Nope. Yeah. That's pretty cool.

It is really cool. It's really cool to see how they are now. Um, because I think there were a lot of years. We're all like, y'all sure you like each other, you know? Yeah.

But they did. They really stick stuck it out. God. Mm-hmm. Was there, was there like a time when your parents were like,

that they always say like, oh, well, we knew when this happened that she was going to be,

do they have that kind of thing, you know? We're like, we knew when she, you know? My grandparents and my dad saw pretty much raised me at their house. I lived over there. Um, they, uh, they, my grandpa could play anything by ear.

He would, they were a lot older. My grandma was 45 when she had my dad. Oh well. Yeah. Um, but I was like the first girl in the family.

And I started to match pitch with her as a baby. And so she figured out I could sing. And she just like singing was her thing. And my grandpa could, like I said, play an instrument by ear. And so at their house, that's all we did.

Like, use a little baby bird. Oh, yeah. That's all we did. And they were like, this is what she's going to do. And so, yeah.

That's my grandpa right there. And they just put you out on the window sale out there. I sang at church law. I learned how to read from singing animals. Um, but yeah.

I mean, all I did. And I really just, the whole time, like, my whole family. We all just really, this was just going to do. And they just knew it all the time. Was there a scary point for you?

Like, when you kind of like got a little bit spooked.

I remember whenever I met you at one thing I remember you saying is that I just knew that this is what I was doing, right?

I was so determined. And um, I've talked to like trade Lewis under you and him or friends. And uh, he mentioned that right. Whenever I ran into him one night, we were watching your show at the knitting. Com, knitting factory, maybe.

Yes. Some place I can't remember. Right. I don't know, I'm terrible at remembering these things. It was a musical place.

And he said she just always been so determined, right?

Um, was there a part of when you like even your own determination came up against like. This just feels like it's going to be tougher than I thought or. I don't know if this is the way or it did it never get to that point for you. I think I always knew it was going to be tough. I mean, how many people move this town in a day to do this job?

Um, I don't know. There's just, it's scary all the time because I love it. It's truly a part of who I am, like my whole life I've done it and wanted to do it and thought about it every day. Like daydream. Every time I'm in the car, I mean, hours and hours alone, dropping from gigs.

Um, like dreaming about what? Just doing this. Literally doing what I'm doing, like playing on stages and writing songs and getting to do this craft for a living. Um, and I just feel like not everything always works out for me in my life. And so I like to leave like very little room for air, you know.

And so I think like just keeping my head down and I'm definitely my toughest critic. You know, like when I watch something, I'm never like, oh yeah, I crush that. Never ever very rarely do I walk off stage. And I'm like, I was amazing out there. I'm always just like, I was, what was that shit that I just said?

That was so was the fuck it's wrong with me. Why would I say that? Well, it must be crazy because you seem like such a like a loot like kind of like,

It's almost safe, you'll say whatever, you kind of save your.

That I do, that's the thing. And then to be such a tough critic of that person is a lot of stress. That's a lot of extra stress it feels like. Yeah, yeah, I'm getting better at it, for sure. Yeah.

It's weird. Um, when I'm sure you understand this, like looking at yourself through the eyes of others. Like, no one should know this many thoughts about themselves.

Like, when everyone's like, what superpower do you want?

I'm never understood when people were like, I want to be able to read minds.

Like, fuck that. I don't want to know it's only thinking about it. Because half these people, I wouldn't either do it especially if you're at like, someplace and everybody's just a damn pervert or something, you know? Oh, yeah. Oh, no way, man, no way.

Even if you're at, like, even if you're just at a dang, um, uh, going around, going around, no matter where you are, everybody is like, I bet you would read mind. You'd be like, I love the golden crowd or our shownies. Dude, my stepdad, he was in one of the wars.

And um, one of them, he would do it after they would go to like the golden crowd, whatever was like, Chinese, Karal or something or like, um, the yellow band or whatever it was called. Uh, he would sit. He would sit my mom in the car and then he would go back in and apologize for

fighting these who we thought were like the same ethnicity people when he was in like, Ewo G. or something like that. He'd go back in and apologize every time. Yeah, he would go back in and just kind of say, you know, give his piece, you know, and it was like this moment that he kind of had, you know,

where, and I think it's probably like that for some people.

That's like they probably went and fought in war and then the only people they ever saw from that culture again was that like, when if a small restaurant popped up in their town 40 years later, that's got to be crazy. Yeah, they all, I don't know. I can't imagine that.

Yeah, they're interested in that. One of my favorite things are read about is historical fiction. Yeah, you watch every any of those war movies. Yeah, my dad loves a war movie, jarheads. I don't know how many times that's been on in our living room.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, dude. My uncle even has the soundtrack to jarheads. I'm like, who has the soundtrack to this shit? I'm CD or what?

I think it might be he said it was blue right. He went like, he went all in on on blue right. Yeah. And he lost a lot. Yeah.

But yeah, dude, I like some of those war movies.

I think because it is make you feel something, you know?

Yeah. Feels like you're learning a little. Feels like you're learning a little, but also yeah. And it makes you feel something. I like something.

I'll say this. If there's a little bit of loss in something, I like that shit. Yeah, keeps your attention going. I like something's got a little bit of loss in it. Um, some of your music and probably a decent amount of it.

To me, um, seems like it's like about, uh, kind of like, like, want and love or or or hope and for love, but not like kind of being able to make it work or, um, I'm trying to think what I'm trying to say. I think you're doing great. I was a good question so far.

They are. Yeah. Thanks, dude. Yeah. Sometimes I get worried or not, and I don't know.

I mean, I get nervous. I was so nervous before I came in here. Where are you? So nervous. Yes.

Why, what do you mean you're the most common person there is? I don't know. You are, you know? Well, I mean, you got to put on the suit. That's true.

And the rest you'll show. That's some, well, I told you, I learned, you know, so other badders in this small town is you learn to put on a face a little bit. You know what I mean? You can't let everyone know everything that's going on all the time.

But also, it's like, I run out of the ability to do that. So we get burned out of it. Yeah. And I just, that's been something I've had to work really hard on is the mental of this game. And I knew the whole town that would be the toughest thing for me.

Really? Yeah. Well, you can't pin yourself to the way somebody else operates. That's something that I've done over the years. Like, if they can do it, I can do it.

I'm not the same person as them, right? And our paths aren't the same. Yeah. I mean, I've, I've, I've floored it for 200 miles with when I had nothing at the time. Well, I think it's because you are similar in the way where you're like,

you kind of fly through life by the city of your pants. You know what I mean? Yeah.

And it's like, you're just following your gut on what you should do with your life.

And instead of like, you know, if you go to school to be a doctor, like, you know, you do this many years of school to go. And you're going to do this. And it's like, we have no idea how this is going to, every single day is different.

Every single day, something could happen. That could change our lives for the best or the worse. And you just never know. Yeah. And so I think like you, you learn this skill to,

you know, watch others in the way where you learn. You know, and I think in the beginning, it pushed me.

I would always like compare my work ethic to,

Laney was a great one for me, you know. Yeah. But I don't know how she's super human. I don't know how she does what she does. But yeah, I'm different than that, you know,

like I have to go be in my house and recharge.

Recharge.

Rest. Yeah. Take time. Same. I've got to do.

I mean, I'm getting dang.

I've eaten animals for peace or whatever.

Yeah. I've eaten again. They got a peace pet in place. It's out there. And you go pet those horses for peace or whatever.

I just got some horses. Did you? Yeah. God. I think I'm getting a doberman.

It's big, but yeah. It's nothing like that. Right. It came in Rodin, it dove me and it was big enough to do that. It's like you found Clifford.

What is it that room in this time? And Ernest is on the other one, dude. Yeah. Yeah. But he's actually on Clifford.

Yeah. He's dressed like grillin for sure. There's like a hundred shades of Ernest. That's the craze. And there's nobody who has, like,

is such a chameleon. I think he made his Ernest. You know? What do you have? Oh, my question.

So I feel like a lot of your songs are about, like, and wanting to, like, find a love or connect with love, but also, like, about, like, wanting independence. You know? Do you feel like you have, like,

commitment issues when it comes to that kind of stuff?

Or do you feel like some of your songs stem from that sort of thing? Or, like, do you find, like, a, like, a common, like, root for some of your, uh, purpose in your music? You know, I think that's a thing that,

sometimes people think about too much, honestly. Where it's like, what is the purpose to everything? What is the, what is the finished product? I don't know, I'm only 26. Like, yeah.

It's like, I'm just writing about, I'm not going in the room thing. And, okay, I need an up tempo song today, and I need it to be perfect for radio, or I need to write this type of acoustic thing, you know?

Like, I'm going in there and just writing songs. Like, whatever comes out that day comes out, you know? And I'm really big on not forcing, um, not forcing, you know? Just, if I feel like I'm in there and I'm not having fun,

I'm like, why are we doing this?

I somehow got to do the job I've always wanted to do.

No way, I'm not going to let it be fun, when we're sitting in here writing these songs, you know? Um, so yeah, I don't know. Just sometimes, like, I'll have a title that I really want to write, or someone in the room will say something,

and then it's just like, if all of you click on that title, like you got to chase it. So, yeah, I mean, and obviously, I mean, maybe in 26, uh, and not married, like, I've been dating, you know?

I've been trying to figure that portion of my life out, too. Yeah. Which is complicated when you have pretty much, giving you everything to this one thing, you know? Oh, yeah.

I mean, that's yeah. I can relate to that. I spent so much time working that yet. It's like, this was my first love. I liked to work the most, and because work is reliable.

It's like, I knew what I got in. What I put into this, I'm going to get out of this. One way or the other, and I'll know if it's fair or not. I'll know if it's a fair amount, because I'll know how much I put in. That part of myself, I can't lie to.

So it's like, I'll know, and it's an even. It'll be even. It may not be exactly what I want, but it'll be, it will be fair. But you know, you gave it your all.

Yes, and to me, I know I know, and so I know I will expect a certain return. And there's not somebody else there that like, when it's a human for me, it's like, that's just too.

It's like whenever he's first on the ride that bike and you're doing that or whatever.

You know what I'm saying? And then you just, you forget that like, you're like, turning the handlebars like this. You think they're the pedals. Oh, well, if this starts happening, you're going down.

That's the scariest feeling ever. It's the worst. Yeah. Aw, so many scars from asphalt. I mean, you hit the neighbor's gator whatever and somebody's called you like a queer.

You know, something like that or something, you know?

That's the worst. I hate when that and you sound like that. Yeah, and it's your dad driving my hand. It's definitely your dad. That would definitely be my dad.

And you haven't even seen him like two years. And you're like, this is how he shows up. Yeah. But yeah, that's something I think about knowing what you're going to, like what you put in and what you're going to get out.

Do you feel like, um, because now you kind of hit this level of popularity, that's a little bit different. And that's kind of scary, right? Yeah. I mean, it's cool.

There's a lot of great things. But that to me, that feels interesting because you kind of like, you almost can't put it back in the tube in a way. It's like, you know, like, you can't like, once you kind of cross over a certain threshold of like,

people knowing you, you kind of can't, like, you know, you're life can change and maybe, you know, people come and go in popularity. But you kind of can't go back to not being someone that wasn't known. I think, um, that's another one of the hardest parts for me.

And it's, I think it's just people treating you differently. Yeah. I just, it's weird when somebody comes up when they're just like, it makes sense to me because if I were to see Stephen X in the grocery store,

Like, I would be a little like, you know,

yeah. But it's weird when it's yourself. You know, like someone's coming up to you and they're like, oh my god, I'm going to throw it up on your shoes. You're like, yeah.

Whoa, like, yeah. I am so weird, like, just, you know, immediately trying to like level myself in a way. But, um, yeah, that's an odd part. But it is cool.

I'm starting to, I'm getting past the stage of like, what? Like, because it was so, in the beginning, it was so new, like, it was weird when somebody knew I was or, when I'm sitting at the table out to eat with friends or family,

and somebody's like, hey, can I get seven selfies with you?

No, I'm like, have like a half a meatball on my mouth. I'm like, bro, that's crazy. Are you having a war stop, or you just don't even feel like a subbed?

In the bathroom, I've never had one last year.

It's not like the bathroom. You're like, bro, no. No, and then if you say no, I've had a girl, I was making my whole band do this ad workout routine. We're in pee fitness somewhere around the world.

And this girl comes out to me. Mid crunch. She's like, can I have a picture? Yeah. And then I like, it was in the beginning.

And now I would be like, probably not right now. Yeah. I'll sign whatever. You know what I mean? Pick better time.

But. Oh, yeah. In the beginning, you'll give it all. You'll give apps. But then I get up to take the picture with her.

And she just is like, no, no, I just want to take one of you. You're going to get that when they're like, when I take one of you. Yeah. You're like, no, no, no.

If I'm sweaty in this, you are. Yeah, so you're just was some kind of pervert or whatever. You're just making a time capsule or some of you don't say.

You're never actually going to keep.

I just want to take one of you. Yeah, I'm not doing all that.

What's your pose of someone to take one of you?

You know, I'll tell you a funny story. I can't. Oh, I'll tell him no. If somebody's like, I just want to take one of you. Yeah, I'm like, no.

I'm like, get, you get over your little urch. And you're getting in this bitch with me. If I had to stand here and look like shit, you do. That's it. Yeah.

Dude. A couple. Probably like a year and a half ago. I started to have, like, because we would do meeting grids after every show. And it may be some of this sounds like kind of woe is me.

Like, I'm about talking to the reality talk. And I'm not mean in that. I'm grateful that people come out to shows. And, and, and I've been to a couple of your shows. And I'm great.

I'm excited to go to more of them. I'm excited to come to that one and test clues. Were you in Morgan or playing together? Oh, yeah. I know you're, your own touring, your new album that's going to come out.

But, oh, yeah. But. Nice. I couldn't smile anymore. This smile, this muscles in my mouth.

Oh, yes. Okay. Did I fidget thing? Yes. And then it got to the point where I just didn't even believe it anymore.

But I'm out there. There was some disconnection between, like, my true feelings and a smile. Because these were all, like, kind of put on smiles. And some of them are real. But, you know, you're, you're just like smile.

You know, it is smile cheese, that type of thing. So I had to start doing this. So when all my that started. Yes. So in all my pictures, I was like, I have to make another face.

And this on me, like, it looks a little too. Like, people are going to get scared of the kids. They're going to kind of be scared a little bit. I think it's kind of nice. So I'll do, like, you know, like.

Just anything. Yeah, but because this just started. Yeah, that, that. See? Yeah.

And we're just, the, the close mouth smile was nice. Well, no, no. That was different. You didn't do it the same that time. It's home more time.

Yeah. Well, no. Kind of close. Try one more time. But don't squint your lips so much.

All right. I'm loose. Leave them loose a little. Start from the side. Now you came.

Okay. Well, what's happening? Not the much. Yeah. That right there.

Thank you. Take a picture of that. Practice. You're an artist. You're a conductor.

Well, thank you. She's a conductor. Yeah. I remember the first time I saw was like, because I didn't know, like, as your, your popularity. Really, I guess the first time that I met you and I remember I said something like, man,

Laney really does such a great job of controlling the stage. Because I was kind of confident complimented her because she really does. And you were, I can't remember what you said. But it was something like, I don't know if I said, like, something like, no.

You were like, you should try running, you should try running around to stage like that.

Oh, yes. Yeah.

And I was like, first of all, you ain't never ever been to a show.

So you know. I know. To show up and be judgmental like that. Yeah. And then that, yeah.

I think I'm just going to move around a little bit. Well, I've just thought about that moment multiple times because I'm like, should I move around more? Like, is that it like has the same thing? Is that I should do like? No.

You should come to rehearsals and let my know. I think I was just nervous and I probably didn't know what to say. And it was a woman until I was just trying to say something. And maybe it wasn't, yeah, I just didn't do the best supportive job probably. Yeah.

Oh, it paned out. But yeah, I've seen it since. And I'm not even going to weigh in anymore. You're obviously really like it. No, I really made me think extra hard about that.

I was like, damn, the other thing is I'm lazy on stage. Oh, I didn't think lazy. I didn't know.

I didn't know.

I didn't know. A little lazy. No. I can't. She've run.

I don't know how she does it.

She does the whole spin thing. Now, she does a lot. I told you she is. She does the whole like fan-tage. She almost like that like.

Yeah. Yeah, she does that spin thing. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And she does.

Just swinging that donkey around him. Like, what is even going on out here? Yeah. She has got it. Yeah.

That's probably what it is. I ain't got no balance like that. Yeah. Even though, you know. She's got them ballast tanks on me.

She's like set up. Oh, she's a pontoon. I'll tell you that. She's locked in. Yes.

She's locked in.

But no, what a great person to learn from and be around.

And even just to watch like, um, the things that she does.

And just to notice all those things, like, how is she able to engage with people so much, you know?

Um, I don't know how Jesus did it. Jelly roll. Jelly roll. Jelly roll is the same way. But he got burnt out.

Yeah. I think it happens to everybody. It'll get you. Yeah. And then no one's, no one's actually doing it all.

Yeah. I mean, everyone gets burnt out. Yeah. Did, um, was there a moment when you kind of had to take it like a step back? You take a vacation.

What do you do like for that sort of thing? Have you learned to incorporate that into things? Because you're already back out here. You're going to go on tour again. Yeah.

Um, I don't, I'm still figuring it out. I think my team's figuring out a little better. How to schedule in the time that's needed. But when you're in this boom moment, it's hard to say no. I mean, you're saying no to stuff that I'm like, do kind of want to do that.

Yeah. But it's like, you know, I'm thinking of things six months down the road. And I'm like, I'll be able to do that. And then I get there. I'm like, oh my gosh, like I'm dying. Why did I do that? What am I doing in this lemonade dream?

Yeah, but then I'm like, if I turn it down, you know, sometimes I'm like, come on.

You can't, what's wrong with you? Why you can't do that?

You're going to be, some people would kill to be like that. You know, and then I have that whole thing. So, uh, last year, um, it just, like I said, I think the, the mental game for me is definitely the hardest part of this job. I can do the gigs. I can do the shows. I can do that.

Yeah. I don't know, the, the burnout, I guess. Like thinking you can work through it. I'll fight through it. I'll figure it out. Yeah. And I mean, Florida week, we toured pretty much.

Mine is a couple weeks here and there from 2022 to 2025, you know. And I mean, hot and heavy, most of that wasn't a van, you know, and then one bus and we're all packed on there and it was still like, it just just happened so fast. So it's like we're still doing these things, but these things are happening. And so everyone from the outside is like,

man, that's pretty nice. You're like, well, you know, we're still getting there. We're still doing our bans. Yeah. Um, and a van. People don't get even enough credit for even being in a damn van. Somebody asked me another day. They're like, do you miss that?

I'm like, hell, no, I don't miss that. I think people should get a tax credit for being in a damn van. If I see a van pull up any van, and somebody gets out of the back of it, yeah. I start clapping immediately immediately.

I don't care what they're doing. I don't care if they are, you know, very religious. And that's, you know, in the side doors broken or whatever, or they are just a big family.

I always wondered what people thought we were, um,

traveling around when they'd see us get out at a gas station. And it was just like me, my photographer, Kaylee, and a whole bunch of tattooed guys just crawling out of a van. Looking to shovel, smelling like Doritos probably. Oh, yeah.

And whiskey. The readers are good at over 50 miles an hour in a day. Yeah, I lived off some gas station food for years. Takedos from the gas station. They're good.

They're good. In the moment. Yeah. But some of my problems, if you, I'll get a bag, and then I'll go get him in the middle of the night and get more. Yeah.

Yeah. I never get a crunchy one, which is ruined the whole thing. It's like, uh, the Takedos? Yeah. I like them.

Or hot dog. Hot dogs are good, but they're just, sometimes they don't,

they don't honestly tell you how long they've been on that twerler.

Out there on the little riverboat. They just put them back out there every so often. What is that? They put a bunch of hair curlers together and start just grilling them bitches. And that was what kind of meat is really interesting.

It's not meat. What are you talking about? Dude, this is the same thing. I don't want to, I have a lady that's like doing on my, my health stuff. You don't think so.

The buffalo chicken, you don't think that is. I bet they're in a half percent of meat in there, baby. Yeah. This is meatless. That should just taste something warm on the outside of it.

Mm. But yeah, when you get those Haunt Brothers peaches. Oh, the breakfast one. Yeah. Do you want to talk to her up on?

On Haunt Brothers? Yeah. I think it's Haunt Brothers. Is there an S at the end of it? Was there more than one?

There you go, girl. Haunt Brothers. Been saying it wrong at Haunt Haunt Brothers. But that's what it is. That's kind of southern stuff.

How they say it? Have you seen the country hoodlums people?

Have you seen those Instagram?

Pull 'em up. Dude, if you can.

I'll put 'em on a page the other day.

The what? On my links page. This is kind of place I grew up with. I'll show you right here. Oh, I can't wait to see this.

This is like our street. What's your door, Christy? I'm out of our head. He's here. He will come soon.

I'll come soon. I'll come soon. I'll come soon. I'll come soon. I'll come soon.

I'll come soon. I'll come soon. I'll come soon. I'll come soon. I'll come soon.

I'll come soon. I'll come soon. I'll come soon. I'll come soon. Well, Christy, he loved glass.

He loved glass. Those golf clubs, glass left, those golf clubs. This is the kind of shit was going on on our street. No, no, you for real? No. And you know what he did probably.

Oh, yeah. He doesn't fool around and he about to find out.

That's the kind of shit we need more of, I think.

But yeah, this is just a kind of what you've ever seen in country hoodlums. Oh, man. This is like a whole thing. They have probably like two or three hundred clips. Now they put up clips every day and it's just them.

It's just like people live in their lives. Oh, like it's real. Yeah.

And this is the one earn people always say this guy or him and earn seem like each other.

No, go hit that top left one. Keep him coming. He just got baptized, actually. Hey, gee. And I'll say this to women or the people they hold it together in this group.

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Yeah. Really, I mean, a lot of chains. Like I said, the shownies, my dad loves a, like a, what do you call it, a buffet? Oh, yeah. Any buffet, the soft serve, ice cream, you got to get it at the end.

How big can you make your own ice cream gone? Make it tall, baby. Make it long. You like it long? Shownies were something else, dude.

And they would give away the stuffed animals up front. Mm-hmm. And the sewing on them was real bad. By the time you got the riches to the car, they was more of a, they looked. They were starting to give out a little.

Did you go to a hop? We went to a hop, but. Waffle house. We went to Waffle house. Yeah, dude.

At our Waffle house, they had like, it was like, our town was like at the end of like the longest bridge in the world. For a while anyway, and then they built a different one. But then that went towards Dale. And so we were back. Anyway, they had a, um,

So the people that would get DUIs on there at night or DWIs at night. The police officers would just drop them off at the Waffle house. They wouldn't arrest them. They just take them down there and drop them all. He was really cool.

I'm just like, hey, stay here. So we're up. So when you use a kid, you just run around. You can just pop in there and just hang you be hanging out with the drugs and eat. And with all these cool drugs and shit.

I think that's a lot of waffle houses late at night.

Yeah. Arge was too. It's kind of like a little mini rehab. I'm just rocking to see outside one of the cooks.

Oh, definitely.

And baby. Yeah. The best is the guy that can't even blink his eyes. So he's so beat up and he just fucking making it. Boy, so many, so many things.

Oh, he'll just rip an envelope out of a chickens ass. I do. And they're all yelling at him. Yes. The best of the fights in there when I start fighting.

It's so closed environment in there when they do the fights. I don't like being in the cage. They do the fight. So you've seen them? Yeah.

It's like, I don't like being in the cage on the outside of the cage.

If they lock the door, you should on this side of the bar and they're on that side.

Oh, that's, yeah. Oh, you mean the employees fighting? Yeah. I don't like it. I just ran once.

I like to go off a house and watch fights. Yeah. Well, dude, the one-in-a in Baton Rouge used to do a look up Valentine's day. Waffle house Baton Rouge. They did a special thing.

Did they do it at other ones you know about? Yeah. I think the decorations. Yeah. They were decorated.

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A steak from a Waffle House. Hell yeah. Just doing it up. Dude, I met a woman off the internet once and she was from another country.

She'd never been to a Waffle House and I took her to one.

And she loved it. That's why I'm my red flags. You guys like, let's go to Waffle House early in the morning. And he's like, no. He says, no.

Let's go to Cracker Barrel. I like Waffle House over Cracker Barrel. I don't know. Yeah. The fans on the, if I want pancakes.

I don't know. I don't, a lot of these pancakes these days are too hot. They're too fluffy and fat for me. I like that bitch. Like it's worth somebody already.

Tried to eat it and it's at Hill. No. I like that thing. It's how if I like it. What does that look like?

Just a pancake. I like that. What? Yeah. I love it.

It looks like part of a piece of like an actual part of a layer of cake. I think that's a flapjack. Yeah. It could be. What is a flapjack?

Bring it up because you have people. I don't know. I don't know. People are eating hotness.

What is a difference between pancake and flip flip?

People are eating all of them, Ella. I don't know. A British flapjack is a simple chewy and only baked bar. Maybe I'm melting butter. No.

I'll burn you down. Golf clubs. If you pull that shit up again. It's not that bar thing. No.

It's not. It is. I like that group. Now some people came out with something. Here we go.

A flapjack is a baked oat bar. This isn't it, man. Yeah. I think it is the oat bar. Well then I've been getting something else.

I call it a flapjack. I like that thing. It's real. Just kind of a little more flimsy kind of. Looks like it'll fucking slap your ass if you walk and bite.

You don't talk about it. Yeah. It'll make the sound. Yeah.

Finally your brother made a sound.

So he's having a good time. And I'll tell you something. I don't love a ton of syrup. I like a fair amount. But I don't like too much.

I love it. You do. Do you like condiments and stuff like that? Are you a condiment person? Sosh.

Yeah. Anything. I love it. You ever had that Zitzacky sauce? Bring it up.

Yeah. You've had it? The Zack sauce? No. Zitzacky.

Bring it up. No. Zacky. I never heard of that. Zett.

Zett. To Ziki? Don't do it. Don't do it. Tell me that's how you feel.

That's how you feel. That's how you feel. What did you say? Zackarai sauce? I said, "Lavithians 413."

That's how you feel. I said, "Capernacus 1216." Yeah. I said, "Capernacus 1216." Yeah.

I said, "Capernacus 1216." Yeah. I said that sauce before. I think. Yeah.

People say, "Zacky." Zacky. Zacky. Zacky. Zacky.

I want that Zacky baby. Yeah. People love that Zacky. Now what I will say is this. I do like it.

How do you prefer it? Is that Ziki? Yeah. Just straight up in the little, uh, little breaddinger. I'll take it with a P to use these.

I'll have it, but I'll have a, I mean, I'll, I would never take them one and drink and one or whatever.

Like my sister used to steal all those little coffee creamers from the fricking place. My step that would take us and he, she would drink them and her bed at night all those little.

Did the little one?

I can finish off six of those and one of why she's having nightmares because you're drinking them stolen milk.

Okay. I don't understand how those stay good out for so long. I don't ever understand. And why can condiments stay on the tables at restaurants for so long, but they can't at the house? Yeah. I got a lot of questions. But no, they used to put them, they used to put the creamers on a thing of ice in some places that I think still are. They still do, yeah. But some of them, those hazelnut ones, those are bad for you. They'll just give it to you in a coffee mug. I just say it. Yeah. Yeah.

It was like pollen in a coffee mug and a thing. Oh, yes. Somebody was a stack of them like that. But my sister would have six or eleven of them bitches in there explaining she's got an upset stomach, bitch. Of course you do. She's probably going to have the upset stomach for the rest of her life, do that. And she already had a damn liver transplant. You ain't getting nothing else. Mom got her that when we're kids. What do you get? I didn't get shit, dude. I remember I got roller skates

ever way too big for me. What were you like? What did you do? Me? I was pretty good, I guess. I don't know. I was kind of a, I like to do my own thing. I just like to hit Chuck and just

have angry thoughts. I think a lot is a kid. Yeah. What did you do? Do you like play sports?

Sure. Yeah. I play basketball. What did I like to do? I like to be on my bike when I was a kid.

My dad was super old. So we were always like messing with him and shit.

My dad was like, my dad was 70 when I was born to. He was an old guy. Yeah. He was old. And my brother used to come in the room. I've told this before my brother was coming to the room and he'd be like, "Dad's dead." And I was like, "What?" He'd be like, "Yup, go in there." He's dead. I'd go in there and he wouldn't be dead. Yeah. How many times did that happen? Oh, well then this is how we started to flip after a while because he'd be like, "Dad's dead."

And I'd be like, "He freaking better be dead." Or I'm a whip your ass. Yeah. So it got to the point where you like hope like if dad's alive, somebody's getting their ass beat. So which is a crazy concept.

Yeah. If you have to go in there and check one more time. Yeah, when your dad is barely alive.

So they're kind of pissed off like this. There's three punches. If you look at the top, look top four, actually you're all me. Zoom in on all of those. God, that looks good. That one's me. No, it ain't. Yep. No, it's not. Well, is it really? We had some tough years. Yeah. I mean, obviously bring that kid back up. Dude, dude, that is not you. We had some damn tough. Just going on with that little. Hang on the side of me. Oh, honey. That's a vague girl. That's a one into a 19 every

ever seen that cut. It's like a bull cut with like a weird shape bull. That's a Christian cut right there. Yeah. Who cut your hair growing up, Ella Langley? Um, all kinds of people. I have a bad tendency to cut my own hair. Yeah. Yeah. I like that best. I really was there's something about it. What

why do you do that? And why have you enjoyed that? I don't know. Because it doesn't always go,

most of the time it goes bad. That's how I got bangs in the first place. I stopped. I was wearing a

cowboy hat for a while. And then I took it off because it was windy one show and it was pissing me off. I just decided, you know, I'm going to take it off. And I liked how my bangs were kind of around my face. And like 20 minutes before I walk out on stage, I decided to cut my fringe a little bit. And it was so bad. There was like one piece right here. And I was shooting the cover art for my first record that next week. And Kaylee was like, hey, you. So I had to get a, I just told her to full send it with the

bangs. Yeah. And yeah, you're in. I don't think I can ever change it. Yeah, you love it that much, huh? It changed my life a little bit. Really? Yeah. I would say. I mean, I don't know the bang thing is like, I think it's the music. Well, yeah. But yeah. I mean, I think maybe a little bit of the music, but mainly the bangs. The bangs are nice. You know what's funny is? There's a, I think there's, there's a, like, a, which is called like a poster board in the air, whatever. I don't know what

your reference scene right now. It looks crazy. Feel bored. There's like a billboard, over on Hillsborough Pike. And I thought it was you on it. I think I know what more you're talking about. Dude, here's a funny thing. I'd go buy it sometimes and I don't just rattle off something or sing a couple of your lyrics to it. And then somebody told me, somebody told me it's not you. It's not. I, but I know what you're talking about. And what do you mean you'd sing a couple

lyrics? I would just rattle off something. You know, I was like, Oh, they'd be like, what's up? Yeah, there's a little thing that she's doing. Oh, she's still high and mighty up on that billboard

Up there with the, and I think it's for a earring company.

big earrings, too. I mean, this lady had damn bird cages hanging off her head over there.

No, what me. It wasn't you though. Wish it was. God. Yeah. Yeah. I got to spend more time with you. So me too. It would have been nice, I think. At school, sometimes we ask about Valentine's Day, did you have a thing at school where you had Valentine's at school, or was your school too small to even give a Valentine? Because other people's feelings could really get hurt in that sort of closed environment. No, we still had Valentine's Day. God. Yeah, we still did. It did. Everyone's did

get hurt. It doesn't. Nine kids in my class and there's Valentine's Day, dude. I couldn't cut that.

Oh, that was our, I never forget this kid. He was in our class. His name was, um, same was Freddie. Mm-hmm.

And he brought in this little bear and he gave it to me and he was like, if you, for you to have this bear, you got to be my girlfriend. I was like, sorry, buddy. Can't do it. I'm a whole girl. Then he gave, yeah, but then he went over to Shelley and gave her the bear. No, he did. Then I was like, hey, Freddie, come back over here. Yeah. I will be your girlfriend. Oh, don't give it that bear back. So you saw that competition. And Ellis said, I ain't losing now. Yeah. I am Freddie was willing to

get a woman and animal. Dude, I remember we had a guy by us. He was a taxidermist or whatever. And I just remember he, I remember he had all these hard stuff animals. I didn't know. Hard ones, yeah. Yeah, I was like, that dude has the hardest stuff animals ever. And I mean, like a squirrel. Because my mother said, I'd love it over there all the time. She'd find me over there. And he gave me like a squirrel. And I slept with that thing while I was here for like four years. It's big taxidermist

asked squirrel. No, you didn't. With a hard tail, yeah. What do you mean a hard tail? He had it,

bring up a look at that bitch. Yeah, look at the one. Yeah, that's a story. I've never seen one

done like that before. Look at the one that's a strip right there. That's the one that you had for

sure. Oh, I think I mean, I don't know. I was young, but I was happy to have it. Yeah.

Look at the one canoeing in its own tail. That's pretty great, actually. Do they have a name? Huh? Yeah, Mr. Talker. So he could have been trians. I have no ideas. Okay. A couple questions about your album and then you're new. Would you say real quick, Ella, could you will your mic to the right this a little bit? Will you come help for trevin? She doesn't need help. Sorry. That's perfect. This is Ella. Why did you say that? Just because I'm thinking

if there's one lady that doesn't need any help, it's probably you, I think. Sometimes I need help. You do. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Sometimes I do too. I think that's one tough thing about like when you like kind of like when things start like, I think if you're like a person that's kind of controlling or you know, you like to have a say in everything you do, do you feel like you're that kind of person? Like you were, that's one thing that I love about Morgan is Morgan knows exactly

what he's doing. He is dialed in to a tee. I feel like on what is him and what represents him. Yeah. I'm very much that way. I mean, every bit of what I do. I have my hand in it, you know, co-producing the record. I'm writing stuff for the music video, co-directing that. I'm, you know, making the set list for the show and kind of creating that set. I literally drew out our set on in my journal. And it was like, gay, but to the set designer, they're like, this is what I want.

And they literally made that for me. So what's all you've, so when people come to see this

next door, it's all you. It's, you know, I mean, I haven't incredible team. Right, but it's all

comes from you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's interesting. It's hard to find people that sometimes people get stingy with your art in a way. And it's funny. It's like, um, like a prod thing. And I care so much about the people that I work with. It being a collaborative experience, you know. And so everyone on my team it really is that with whether it be my style is or I make a part is or Kaylee over here, who's my photographer and also a creative director of my management, you know, my band. It's kind of,

like, I don't get tell my band get up there and play this dang thing leak for Lick. I want to us get up there and have, you know, fun and play music. And obviously there's a way a show should go, but I don't know. I just think that sometimes people put these weird parameters around such a creative thing. And something that like, I think you look like you love me, did for me was like, everyone told me that song was not going to work, you know. You know, you're all like, what,

what do you, my label tried to give it to you. You couldn't cut it? Yes, after we had cut it, they were like, we really think you need to go back in and sing these verses. I was like, I'm not singing it. And they're like, you need to sing it. And I just thought I'm really hard on it.

And they thought you need to go back in and sing Raleigh's verses? Is Raleigh one things on that?

Yeah, but no, like the, yeah, the talking part of the, you know, I was all but 22. I think at the time. Yeah. Yeah. No, they wanted me to sing that go back in. They're like, this is like going to be the worst performance on the record. No. Yeah. And so I think with that one, I mean, it was just

New.

you believed in what it was though. I believe that it was different. I believe that it was something

that made me smile. And I enjoyed singing it. And, you know, like I said, once I put my mind on as something, like, if I go in and cut something, it's because I believe in it. And it feels like you get to know you, someone that's song a little bit too. I mean, it just, there's something about when somebody's talking to, you know, when they're talking as well, I think there's, yeah, tells a story in a different way. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Dang. Who's out there telling

an L align we know? I don't know. But have there been parts you've like, like, like, like, as things got busy, you're like, learning how to be like kind of like a boss, a leader, not necessarily a boss, but like a leader. Yeah. And then those are roles that you have to step into.

I think if you want to be like exactly how you want to be, you know, because otherwise,

there's like, especially in music and Hollywood type of stuff, there's, it'll, it'll make something for you and serve it out there, you know? But if you want to be on top of it, it takes a lot. It does. I think that's one of the harder parts of this job and kind of what I've watched from watching other artists in the whole life, obviously wanting to do this pay attention in the way. Like, you can really do have to get up and fight to do it the way you want to do it every day.

And that crazy. You do it. It's exhausting. And people all day in the more, the more success, the more people care about what you're doing, you know, I mean, in the beginning and a label,

you know, when I was first on, it wasn't a competitive deal, you know, they, I didn't really have

that much going on. And it was more of like a banking on me type of a situation. Right.

So now, you know, everyone is a little paying a little closer attention to what's happening, obviously.

I should feel a little bit more. And everyone has an opinion. And it's like that across the board. And that's just because it's working and everyone wants it to stay working, you know, you know, yourself the best in your artistry and like, at the end of the day, I'm the one that's going to have to do that interview. I'm the one that's going to have to sing that song every night. I'm the one that's going to have to go take those pictures on the one that's going to have to work with these people,

you know, and as thing is just constantly reminding them of that and not compromising who you are as a human being because, well, this is how it's usually done. I hate that phrase. I hate, well, this is what you would usually do. I was like, well, I don't give a rat. I asked what you usually do. I do not want to do it like that. I really don't. And I'm going to stick my heels in the month. Yeah, I don't even have any heels. And I'm just going to put my feet in there. You do have heels. That's the

bottom of your foot. This is, oh, yeah, you're right. And I'm going to put them in the house. That's

the thing. I've always, I don't want to do it. How you want to, that's, do that's been the pilot

light of my entire existence. Oh, yeah, do it like this. That's a worse thing. You can tell me if you don't want me to do it. Dude, I don't want to do anything. I never want to do it. I couldn't even, my eyes wouldn't even open. And I was like, I ain't doing shit like you want me to. Yeah, keep your eye straight. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's hilarious. Oh, congratulations. You guys is your tour with Morgan starts April 18th in Tuscaloos, Alabama, Brian Denny Stadium. I know,

homestay. That's so crazy. Well, I think it's the first concert to be in their sense. Like,

what? 19 something. Bring it up. Not 1070 something. I think Alabama was the last thing. Oh, hey, bring it up. Oh, my god. Kaylee took that over there. Did she? God, take some of me, Kaylee. I need to live like that. I need to get it down broach or I'm sorry. I'm in a nice, I'm in a nice nectar. I'm just joking. I'm trying to make it rather laugh. The only joy I'm having is when you guys laugh. I think that's the get go. Well, yeah, it's just nice when people laugh. I feel okay. Yeah.

Alabama Stadium show right there at Brian Denny. When was the last one? That's where I ask him. Honestly, this guy's just looking at pictures of men online. That's the dang football team. We just want to know what was the last one. Just ask somebody. Fuck and ask. Who's that roll tag? Oh, ask roll tag. Really? Yeah. He's actually from here. He's he was in the military with my buddy's dad. He used to be pretty not normal, but better. That's where he's from. What? Yeah.

God bless him. The last concert, how to Brian Denny Stadium was a performance by the band Alabama in 1992, which followed a series of Bama Blast concerts in the early 1980s. The 2008 concert with Alan Jackson was scheduled but canceled. Dame. So that's been 30, 33 years. Yeah, I'm pretty excited about that one. That's crazy. Nor direct support this year.

We've really worked our way up on this tour.

Last year, we were second of four. This year, we're direct. Congratulations. Just clawing your way, you know what I mean? He says, I mean, I've spoken with him about you and he's like, she's got, she has it. She has got it. He's been really cool. He's a unique dude, man. Well, you know, I'm in him and earn and hardy and that whole cruise has just been super economy. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, there's that whole group so much fun. I'm a right whenever I moved in town. We

had a podcast, too. I was gonna remember a wedge with you. So I just was renting a house and putting

a podcast to you. And the guy was always stop-minded. You have podcast to do in here. I was like,

no, and just like, for some reason, it's got hated podcast and whatever. And one day we got to have Morgan and came and then we had, like, kind of just snuck out hardy and earn and we had a blast of an air. But that was fun. That was like our early episode that we had here in town. Yeah, those shows are going to be cool. It's going to be so great. And, oh, there was some else I was going to ask about it. Oh, and then you're doing stage coach, too.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Me and my buddy, your DJ in there. Really? Yeah, I did. DJed before? No. But it looks so dang easy. Yeah. I'm just joking, Diplo, but it looks pretty

crazy. So yeah, that's it. Yeah, I don't know. I'm never tried that. But yeah, me and my friend Caleb

press their play are going to play at Diplo's Hunky Talk. So Stuart met him. You did? Oh, they're great, aren't they? Yeah. Honey balls. He is. Yeah. He loves a nice cheese too. If you know of a restaurant in the area, he'll tell you about cheeses in any area. He almost says like a, like a, he said, yeah, you will, you know that. Like he already did that. Yeah, yeah, he loves them cheeses. You know I met him over a horse. That's it. Listen in the hearty. And I'm sorry. I'm just

probably no horrible cheese country music lyrics here. I thought it was a too bad selling it is, but no, that's, so that's going to be cool. I'm excited. I'm excited to get to see you play out there. Let's talk about and thanks so much for spending time with us today. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.

I appreciate it. We're happy to have you. We had this girl and yesterday have you ever seen that girl?

She's like on TikTok. She has like, she has um stenosis. She has a, like a syndrome. Sister noses. Sister noses. She keeps changing the name of it. But uh, yeah, this is our view standards. She talks about the spice a little bit of spice. A little hint of the tomato. A little hint of spice. Tomato and ramen. Yeah, she has like a little hint of tomato. What is it? I don't know. That's me all the time. What if it, what is even that? I don't know.

Just say it first and figure it out later. Yeah. Um, you have your new album Dandeline

or Dandeline. That's a people, some people were saying it. Yeah. Um, congratulations. Did you feel like you had to hurry up and get this out? Or because I think sometimes coming off of like, you know, like you said earlier, like your career starts getting bigger and things start to feel like you don't want to lose momentum, right? You worked so hard to build a flame. Did it feel like any pressures like what were some pressures that were involved with this or

was it just completely smooth and is that a ridiculous question? Nothing is every completely smooth. I don't think for real. Some, I don't know. Well, I don't know. Maybe some things. Yeah. Some things. Maybe yeah. But this, this record, I mean, I worked on it for like a year and a half. So it still took a while. But I say, I keep saying that a big word for this record is synchronicity. It did just feel like a lot of things. While it was, you know, I'm co-producing for the first time.

Well, I'm full-time touring two different tours. Well, you know, just trying to balance everything

at the same time, get the vocals done. You know, and it taught me a lot. And that's what was so cool.

But I have a Miranda to be a part of it. You know, because she's just so honest, you know, you've met her and hung out with her. She's just so real. Yeah. She's been, she does barrel racing too. Yeah, she does. But she just, you know, she was just honest about, you know, days where I was like, she's like, you're burnt and take a step back. Yeah. But also, like, you know, some things I wanted to go in there, I'm like, can I say that? She's like, oh, yeah, you can say that. You can say whatever

the hell you want to. You know, so like that confidence of someone that has done it and like you look up with their career so much like, you know, what, you know, yes. Yeah. Actually, I do want the samples to be louder out there. I do. And now it was, it was really cool. This whole, this whole

Record, I'm so excited about it.

I think I've clicked in my artistry. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah. I think I really had a pretty bad

ass thing to say. Yeah. I think especially if you're somebody you mentioned earlier that you're

such like a judge of yourself, you know, that you get off stage and you're like, oh, that, you know, yeah, that was fine. But that, but there's, it wasn't as exact as I could possibly have been, you know? Yeah. I just, man, this is, is exact as I want it to be. I just, oh yeah. We had such a vision for it, like I had a hundred and a certain song reference playlist of what I wanted Sonically for this record and what do you mean, what does that mean? I literally just went on Spotify and made a

playlist of like all of these songs of the era I was listening for like guitar tones and drum sounds and BGV background vocal parts and you know, start with that idea before anything. Well, actually it started with the title Danny line. We had written that song, it was the oldest song on the record. It was almost going to be put on the last record, but I pulled it at the last minute because I just kind of felt like Sonically. It's where I wanted to go and I knew it was like the context was like

feels like I'm growing and I'm not just so hungover and doing the botry every day of my life, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe just on Tuesdays, you know. But yeah, so I found out that Danny line T is a detox for your liver and when I heard that it was like a light bulb went off over my head. It's like, oh my god, a record called Danny line coming after a record called hungover. It's like you're just growing up, you know, Danny lines are resilient. They're

kind of considered a weed, but I mean, what are kids going and picking out for their moms and bringing them? You know, it's a bunch of Danny lines and they're actually spread on the wind, which is cool if it weren't for the wind. Yeah. So that's a little random little nugget in there. But I mean, so much of that stuff is in this record and God, I love it. Yeah, I mean, sometimes I play it at that one. I'm in my room or whatever. You feel that you feel like a

Danny line. I will play it. I'm not saying all that, but I will say I will play it sometimes.

You never have felt like a Danny line. I don't think so. I don't know. I'm not going to have to

read through my diary, but I don't think so. Probably not, but that's okay. That's okay. I just, yeah, I mean, I love your more of a rose. Okay. I'm more of a damn. What's the plant that grows on your house, even if you don't want it to? Yeah, I'm more of a cut to you. You are more of a cut to you, because they can't get rid of me. They're like this. That's it. I thought we put it out years ago. It's like a bitch. I'm still, you're growing under

the porch. Hold up, come out and I'll tap on your wind. I'm only playing late at night. Yeah, fun. I'm like a damn fungus. Thank you. Sorry. Thank you, sir. I like to, I like to find but I will go fungus. We'll go fungus. No, but no, I love this in your music. It's great. I mean, obviously, I'll be standing and who might it judge its great dude? One time I said to Morgan, I was like, man, that song is good and he looked at me and he goes, that song is great.

And I was like, he's right. And he was right. He just kind of sat there in silence for him. I was just trying to think me cool. He was like, no, and he was right.

I got kind of sweaty right when you said that. Yeah, I think we're actually working out somewhere.

So it was like, you know, extra. It was just like, I don't know what was going on. But I remember him saying, that song's great. I like, I respect his confidence about it. But no, I'll love his new music. It's great. But I'll put saying that, dude. He's just like, fucking weirdo. I like listening to your music.

There's that smile again. But here's what happens is, out to be talking to dudes,

and I'll be walking up and singing around at the dang market and some guys, bought walking by, singing it. You know, singing it? Yeah, just singing it. All of it. Be heard. Yeah, just see. Yeah. Oh, dude. Yeah, my friend and I on the other day said, he said, I can't get this out of my head. And I was like, well, gang, don't look at some porn over. So, you know, we're going to get a dang one of the nudy mags or something, but go, you know, that usually, yeah. But anyway, I was just

saying, because that was that song is more of like a women focus song. Mm-hmm. That's all right. Right. With three guys. Did you? Yeah. Hardy's one. Did he? Mm-hmm. He does up long hair. He does. And he has a nice hair, too. We'll tell me, like, so when it comes down to making the final songs, like, or did you want to play one, you want to pick one out to play? Yeah, play a song. Really? Yeah. Of course. I'll give you all the titles. All right. And then you can just pick one about one.

Just pick one that's not out yet. All right. If you, how would you know? How would you know?

I think I will know. Okay. Where was that sent to me yet? Thank you. Okay. All right. Let me see that.

Just put my number in here.

Just guy. Take an ever-by-the-devil. The dang devil is swiping around and saying,

it's like, you can't hit it to your dad and you just keep swiping around and you're like, bro, if some of you give somebody for him, they swipe one picture. If they're in this scary, you have no idea what that could be. You just swallow. It's just so hard to meet you. It could be casserole. It could be a damn somebody getting a tummy tuck.

What is this something you meant to take to show your doctor? Like, you know what I mean?

Oh, you're like, that's for my doctor. You're like, you weren't, you were going to show that young lady your doctor? Yeah. I like that. I mean, my doctor. I need to go to a meeting.

What about last call for us? Yeah. You could play that one. Is it a phone one?

No, it's much fun, but it isn't. If you want fun, not that one. Oh, that's a true one. But it's, I mean, last call like this one. Oh, my God. I'll just listen and enjoy it. Thank you. It's a side side too. But after these drinks, you'll let go of me. And I'll let go of you. Here we go. We ain't ever gonna make this work. It's causing out and going our separate ways.

Soon as we go, I'll get out that door. We ain't ever gonna ain't ever gonna be the same. It's last call for us. Here we go, boy. It's my ultimate hype, man. I can edit that in right there. This time alone, we won't come back here as last call for us. You can fade it out, son. I think we could play one more. We can. And then we can just pick which one. Let's do that. That's good because that might be sad because what if somebody's just put their

animal down or something? That's the song they want to cry too. That's just a good point. Oh, we put it out there. Yeah. And thank you for that. And I'll say this. I went and saw Dermit Kennedy one time. You ever heard of him? Dude, and I didn't know people cried together in a big group at the rhyme and write. And so there was a woman crying on my back because she'd lost a pet. You just let her. I couldn't do what am I going to do? Let just let her. She said just push my legs back if they get up against you. I was like

all right. But it was special. That's a crazy ramen show. It was. All right. And I saw you at the

rhyme and remember you asked me to sing that part and I got scared. Why did you get so scared?

Because I couldn't remember it all. There were words. There's a teleprompter out there with the words on it. I didn't know that. Nobody told me that. I did. Yes, I did. I would have known a teleprompter. I know about that. I know about words moving at slow speed in front of me. Yeah, there was one with the words on it and everything. I didn't know anything. Yeah, there were like everyone was like he was upset. And I was like, well, why? I think I was bummed because I wanted to do it because I liked this. I liked the music.

And so I wanted to be helpful. And everybody else was helping out. And then I think I just got too nervous. I didn't want to mess it up. You would not. You could have come out there and said anything and it would have been good. I don't know. That's the fun part about that song. I mess up the words all the time. Yeah. All the time. You do seem pretty much like you just kind of you're willing to just roll with it no matter what.

Hey, this is a special show for y'all. I've never done it like this before.

I can't help it. I'm human. I think, you know, in a world of, you don't know what's real or not. Like,

I just think going out there and not being afraid to be humble a little bit in that way. I don't want to mess up the words. Like, when I did what I want when Morgan, I mess up the words almost every single time. I've never been so nervous to go out and do some really. I just feel like I could throw up for I walked out there every time. I was like, I just cannot. I could not remember those words. Like, here's me. Like, there ain't no hot feelings.

If you only want to, I love those do for days. Like lovers do. And I couldn't stop literally just. You really? I just couldn't. I don't know. And I would have it. But then, all right, POV, you go through this tunnel. You know what I mean? And you're playing into stadium. It's the most people you've ever been in front of. You're walking out with Morgan Wall and everything gets dark. And there's smoke everywhere. And you've got to walk out. And I'm in pointy heels. And there's

greats out there. So you've got to make sure you're not falling down in those. You get up and then

You go.

And it's like, OK, but doing it in front of 80,000 people is different than at 2 p.m. in the middle of

the day. But what was awesome is the last time we did it is he came out and messed up the words. And I, when he did that, I started the last so hard because he was giving me so much shit about messing up the words. He was just like, you can't come out here and mess this up again. I was like, am I, I really scared that I'm I. And so the last night he did and it was like, he just immediately couldn't ever say another thing to me about messing with the words, you know. So that was nice of him.

If he did that on purpose. He's like, yes, he says, now he's like, that's why I did it, make you feel better about all the time. Like, yeah, any might have who knows? No, because when he looked back at me, it was pure like frustration that he like had no longer talk shit about me. I was even. Yeah, it's hilarious. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. You'll do a good job on that one. Yeah, let's play one more. Then let's play something, Melody. Well, let me think about one more.

Let me try and pick one more. Okay. Can I just say, yes, you're now if I think it's a good one?

Yeah, when we'll take that part out. Okay. Why? Because if people, if you say no, it's not a good one. They are, but maybe not for the setting. Yes, for this setting. That's what I'm thinking about. Bottom of your base. Yes, but broke that was my freaking one that I wanted. That my dad gave

me that title actually. Yeah. I was like having a freak out one night. That's actually kind of a

sweet story. I was like, tell me about it then. Well, I mean, he was just giving me one of his like, baby, you know, you're fine. He's like, I love you from the bottom of my boots at top of my head. Oh, that's a great. Anyway, that's as much of a dad as there is. Yeah. You know, pep talks. That's bottom of the top. Yep. Bottom of your boots. Yeah. Yeah. Heck yeah.

Yeah, they got their shoulders. Yeah, they got their shoulders. Yeah, they got their shoulders. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. ♪ You don't make it with those three words ♪ ♪ If you go love me ♪ Getting closer to a love song.

♪ Tell me how you're really feel ♪ ♪ Give it a label ♪ ♪ If you go love home ♪ ♪ You don't love me ♪ ♪ You don't love me ♪

♪ You don't love me ♪

♪ Better hold me like you ♪

♪ Hold me for the rest of your life ♪ ♪ If you go love me ♪ ♪ Better love me ♪ ♪ Boom and back ♪ ♪ Love your booms ♪

♪ Do the type of your head ♪ ♪ Loving me ♪ ♪ I love that ♪ ♪ Oh, I love it ♪ ♪ Langley ♪

♪ That's good ♪ That's good. That's good in there. That's good. Good ups, Houses.

Dude, your brother is a great dancer. That's beautiful song. I can do it, but he is dancing though. I don't know. Pretty good, buddy.

Heck yeah. I thought he's my, he's my height man.

Yeah, no, I would get him out there and have him do it.

Do you ever do that? No, but maybe we should. Thank you for your. He's been streaming. - Has he? - Yeah.

- He's a streamer? - Yep. - No, I haven't streamer. Must ask, dude. - Must ask, dude.

- Yeah. - Okay. - Yeah, I like that man. There's not a lot of Southern streamers really, I don't feel like.

- I know, I feel like, um, I don't get a lot of exposure, dude. It's been awesome.

Must ask, dude, you know, I got the brand.

I got the, dude, so. - Type, I like it, dude. - And is that a real hat from your sister's album? - It is. - Oh, yeah, I got to get that.

- We're back to you, son. - Yeah. - And released. - Are they? Did you really bring it on?

- Let's go. - Oh. - I can't even wait to freaking put it on whenever I get home. Um, that's a great song. Thanks for letting us play it.

And I think, um, and what a great story to go with it,

That it came from your dad saying that to you.

- Yeah. - That's awesome. That's a nice reminder. - Should we do one more? I mean, I'll solve, definitely be here for that.

- You picked out a good one. - I think we should do broken. - I'll do it. - All right, yes, first course.

- And is it about, well, never mind.

I'll just be quiet.

- You're figuring this town out one day at a time, ain't you?

(laughing) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) ♪ Don't ask ♪ ♪ If I'm doing all right ♪

♪ Can't we skip all the talking baby ♪ ♪ And don't try ♪ ♪ If I'm the right thing to say ♪ ♪ 'Cause the words ain't working on me lately ♪ ♪ Tears just fall on a hardwood phone ♪

♪ Gonna wanna wild ♪ ♪ Gonna wanna what for it all ♪ ♪ If I'm doing all right ♪ ♪ Can't we skip all the talking baby ♪ ♪ And just let me just let me be broken ♪

♪ Just let me just let me just let me be broken ♪ ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ ♪ Oh, oh ♪ ♪ One night ♪ ♪ Baby, just one night ♪

♪ Let me feel everything that I'm feeling ♪

♪ And if it's all right ♪ ♪ I'm a little, I'm a little, I'm a little, I'm tonight ♪ ♪ So just let me just let me just let me be broken ♪ (laughing) ♪ Just let me just let me just let me be broken ♪

♪ You and me in the dark ♪ ♪ Just keep holding me tight ♪ ♪ While I'm falling apart ♪ ♪ Baby, just one night ♪ ♪ Just let me just let me be broken ♪

♪ Can't you hear this live with the crowd, you know? ♪

♪ Oh, yeah, there are lighters ♪ ♪ Oh, lighters ♪ ♪ People holding up pictures of people they've lost ♪ ♪ Look at them everywhere ♪ ♪ They really ♪

♪ Well, you want to shout out to that light ♪ ♪ It's pretty close ♪ ♪ And you and me in the dark ♪ ♪ Just keep holding me tight ♪ ♪ While I'm falling apart ♪

♪ Baby, just one night ♪ ♪ Just let me just let me be broken ♪ Yeah, a lot of singing courses on this record. I've thought a lot about like, I'm wanting people to sing along to these songs.

Yeah. You thought about that. A lot, you know, I mean, I don't know. No, it's important. Sometimes there's so many words and songs.

And I'm just like, I cannot remember. But I can remember the melody. You know, so a lot with these songs, I wanted them to be kind of easier. Remember a big singing course is like, you know,

you hear that course once. And you're already knew how to sing it. Yeah. Yeah, because you want to feel a part of it. I mean, I think as a listener,

you want to feel a part of it as quick as you can sometimes. Especially if you're fan of somebody like, you know, if it fits you some of, you know, certain songs fit certain people better than others. Well, maybe you haven't heard it all the songs.

And you just know like one or two. And then you come to show what you can still catch on to song throughout the show. Because I hate to stand in there. I hate to stand in there.

And I have to do much ADHD to just stand there. Okay, hot.

And you have to keep getting snacks because you don't know the song.

You're like, well, shit. I'll get another snack over there. Get another pretzel, I guess. I get another pretzel. I mean, make it cinnamon this time.

Yeah, maybe I'll change things up or something. Get a damn diet, get a rate or whatever.

Which they never came out with, which I have written them about.

Um, I had this. I had this like choosing Texas is probably the biggest song everywhere. Apparently they had like somebody called it. They called it.

They found an alien or something. He was singing it. I think like, there was like a family of aliens. They saw somewhere that were they've saw them singing. And like it's number one and everything.

It's like, you know, it's like the biggest song that's ever happened. Some guy, you see that guy on a coma who the kind of wakes up and mumbles one of the lyrics. And then goes back into a coma. Yeah.

He's like. Yeah. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. And just. You're getting them right back.

Right off. Um, there's so many memes to it though. Have you seen a lot of those? Yeah. Can we bring some up?

Yeah. What do you think about all these? I think that it's. It's whatever people want to do with the song. You know, once I put it out there, it's like, who knows what can happen.

And like I said, this is what's going to keep songs alive. Hmm. You know, it's. It does sound too close. It does sound real close.

That drink and jack off by myself. Yep. Yeah. I think it does. It does.

It's a song stuck in my head and parts to it. And I just have that right there stuck in my head, like on repeat over and over again now. Just drinking jack up on myself. It's like drinking jack on and on.

Have you ever actually sung it like that on stage or not?

I've feared that a lot. I really do.

Because I have the thing about me where it's like, I have one specific thing.

I should not say.

And then I'm accidentally going to probably say it.

Like, I don't know why. Um, God. Yeah. Yeah. So it sounds safe and tickling you from the inside.

Yeah. Here's what I hear. Yeah. It's ju- there's Jews in Texas. I see anyone all the time.

Drink and jack up on myself. There's Jews in Texas. I can tell. And it's just a see me. A mixed guy at least.

Possibly a black man. Fishing. A man made palm. There's no way that they're fishing that bottom right now. No way.

I don't know. I bet there's some damn missing women in that bitch. Pull up one more. This. [MUSIC PLAYING]

My dad loves that one. [MUSIC PLAYING] Some people can't see because they're listening. Well, let me spend it down. I can't help but cry because I've farted.

It says on the screen. So that's what they're saying. She said that's hilarious. Um, yeah. Yeah.

The only thing is to Jews in Texas and then drink and jack off on myself.

It does. It's like that. You can be my green bean. You remember that thing? You can be.

You can be my queen bee. Lord. Remember that song? Oh. I mean, no way.

Yes. Yeah. I used to do that, Mark. I guess. No.

You can be my queen. Life's a pint of buzz. I'm like, you don't want them with us. You say it. You could be my queen.

You could-- Oh, yeah. You could be my queen bee. If everyone saw you say green bean. Oh, you could be my green bean. Okay.

I got to stop. [LAUGHTER] Some real man shows up and chokes me out. [LAUGHTER] Okay.

Moving on, Ella Langley. And then your own tour, you have your own tour. Yep.

It's kicking off after it's in between the one with direct support from Morgan.

Kind of back and forth some. We started May, May, what? May 7th. Mm. Where are we starting?

Yep. Toledo, Ohio. You could've been Vietnam was. Was that where Vietnam was? No, it wasn't.

Sorry. I know Vietnam was on until you. [LAUGHTER] I think Vietnam started May 7th. Oh, that's a day.

I should not-- it doesn't matter either way. At this point. Let's pretend that's not part of this. [LAUGHTER] Well, you got double Marlos on it.

You got Dylan Marlos and Cameron Marlos. Not related. Two totally different singers, both great. Mm-hmm. Caitlin butts on there.

Trying to think of how I've heard her before. Can you bring up Caitlin butts? Yeah, ain't gotta die to be dead to me.

She has an incredible cover.

I went down to Tosa. Oh, yeah. Yeah, she's incredible. She's her voices incredible. She's so fun, her songs are fun.

[MUSIC PLAYING] She's also really funny. She's funny? Yes. Well, it's the best.

That's good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I made you notice that.

I just noticed it. And I believed it. Oh, that's all you got to do. When I noticed it, I believed it. And then that's what it is.

Yeah, sometimes you meet some funny girls from outside or from Philadelphia area. But anyway, also, Caitlin butts. And I look forward to getting to meet her. You know what?

Yeah. And then that's what it is. Yeah, sometimes you meet some funny girls from outside or from Philadelphia area. Yeah. I look forward to getting to meet her sometimes.

She's really good.

And then Gabriella Rose is first to three for almost the whole thing.

She's incredible. Diplos was telling me something about her. She's so good. I believe in her a lot. She's young.

And she's still like, you know, finding herself in her artistry. And, you know, doing a whole damn thing. But she's so good. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. The way she writes, it's like, you can tell she means what she says. And then Lacey K. Booth is another one. Oh, God.

They're just some good women out there. Yep. Hmm. We're glad they're doing it. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. We are glad. Um. We are glad. Sorry.

I don't know. Is this the weirdest interview? Is it okay, guys? Oh. Those guys are perverts, both of them.

Um. Ella, thanks so much for hanging out with us. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. And all of your success on everything that's going on.

And just learning to figure it out.

Because I think that's that's one thing that everybody's trying to do.

I think some of the people think that like people like it are in some sort of line

might are going through some sort of like popularity or exposure. Yeah. Fame that they. There's like a conductor behind stage that's like telling you what to do every second in the day.

Yeah. No. Yeah. Sadly, that ours is in there. Yeah.

Can you imagine what our conductors look like to in there?

Oh. It's a mess. They pulled out whoever losing my head from behind a building. From behind a building and the like, look where you look. We found back there.

I would like. Fucking hang on. The nearest road pro. There's you ever watched the inside out movie? And he wouldn't have pants on I bet.

Probably. You're like, wait. You're telling me that God hit my head. Has never had pants on. Never had pants.

Like the officers like he doesn't own pants.

You're like, well, what? Um. We can't afford pants. Yeah. Have I ever watched the inside out movie?

Yeah. There's like the characters that live in your brain. The cartoons. You would love this movie. I actually think that you would.

It's incredible. I never seen this. You should. You should see it with your eyes. It's very good.

Okay. It's like about all these characters. Like they all are like it's like sad. Mad. There's like one main girl.

And then there's like a. I don't know what the other one is. Joy. Yeah. There's some anger.

Oh, I see. I see all of them.

They're all labeled up there.

Oh, wow. Anyway. It's just awesome. Maybe think about that. I appreciate that.

Welcome just something for lighter on the plane. Whenever you're on the plane. Yeah. After I get done listening to the dandelion, then. Yeah.

I'll put on inside out. I'm sure that people say nice to you. I guess. This guy's going through. No.

If someone came up on you watching that, they'd be like, yeah, for sure. Probably. It's kind of crazy. That's what we're at now. Another dog watching a fucking cartoon.

They're like, yeah, man, you do everything's fine. It's actually having a hard day. It's a crazy world. So you're going to be on tour for a bit. Then you won't get to go back home for a while.

Or do you have a set date? We're going to go back home. We'll be home for Easter. We'll be home for Easter. Yep.

I'm going to go home for Easter. And then.

Will you go back to the church that you grew up in?

No. No. I kind of, well, we moved to a different place. My parents just sold that house actually. Like clothes are like a week or two ago.

Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I just have bought a house back there on the lake. And don't want to say where. Because people already come up on their boats and stuff.

Playing my music. It's kind of funny. People are pervert. People are. See, see, fairing pervert.

It's not just a small town. You know what I mean? They're like. Yeah. They're cool.

There's like the clothes. It's just like a pigly wiggly and a DJ there. You know? Oh, yeah. I mean, people used to pull up our apartments and steal all the ditch onions.

It's out there. And then what? You haven't. I have never. Oh, they got ditch onions out there.

And congratulations on choosing Texas as a number one. It's a number one for. It's so many. I don't even. It's too many slices.

Too many things. It's actually crazy. It's a number one for everything. I think it just came out on the moon.

It's the first number one on the moon, I think.

Yeah. I don't really know. That would be nuts. No, yeah, I don't know. It's just so weird to, to, to, to, to believe that that's like a song.

That's my song. Yeah. What? I know it's hard to feel attached to things that you do sometimes. Yeah.

I think. Yeah. I think that makes good sense. Well, maybe that's one of the things that makes you you. But whatever the things are that make you you.

They're enjoyable to witness. So thank you for spending time with us. Thank you for your music. There's so many people I know that love it and then it brings joy to their life. And I'm glad I got to meet must-stoo.

And yeah, when I need some photos and my conditioner set, I'm going to call you and Dan gets something swell going on. So swell. Yeah, something swell. Um, Ella Langley, thank you.

Thank you for having me on here. Yes, ma'am. Now I'm just feeling on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I must be cornerstone. Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this piece of mind.

I found I can feel it in my bones. So it's gonna take.

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