#658 - Mike Tyson (Live at the Wiltern)

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And this podcast has given me just so many little moments of my life that have been so special. And tonight is certainly no different. Like, it's really you get to get to sit across from one of the most recognizable people in human history.

This is a man who's been the heavyweight champion of the world. Okay, the entire world. [ Applause ] He's been everything. He's been a father.

He's been a gang. And made. He's been a drug dealer. He's been a -- [ Laughter ]

“But I'm just saying this is a man who is done.”

I mean that admirationally, honestly. He's been a father. He's just done so many things. Life has put so much on his shoulders. And I'm curious to know what that's --

whether it's like to be him. You know, and I'm grateful to get to spend time with him today. I feel very fortunate to announce today's guest is Mr. Mike Tyson. [ Applause ] [ Applause ]

You look short, Mike. Thank you. Thank you very much. I went to the final retreat because I know I was coming here. I wasn't going to go with food.

I was going to be a casualty shop. I think you did it, man. Do you like dressing up or not? I love it. You do?

I do just to know where that man is. He's trying to close. Yeah. Like a little mannequin, kind of. Or like a very tough mannequin?

No. It's like a real life stud. He's trying to close. You like putting on stuff.

Had you always been like that or was that kind of?

Let me tell you story. One day, these guys, they pretty much bullied me to help them. That's how I found out about pigeons. They helped me build their pigeon coop. And so I started coming there often.

But I was 11 years old. I never knew about washing and changing clothes. My mother would take a hot washing clothes full of towel. I would wash, man. I would wash myself.

So after being on the pigeon coop, I have to tar from building the pigeon coop. Shit on me. Some guys took me to this neighborhood dance. Everybody said, "Yo, John, hey, when can they show a friend?" He got shit on me.

Everybody started laughing. I started laughing. I was crying. They were talking about me. And then we said that.

I became a criminal. I only bought my clothes. And then I cried. And I became a criminal. I became a criminal.

And I ate clothes from the way they were laughing at me. Now it's time for me to say, "Wow, you look nice." Yeah. You're under arrest, but you look great. Yeah.

Oh, I loved those pictures. Oh, I loved those pictures. Great.

“There's something more respectable about a criminal that is well dressed, isn't there?”

He become the rogue that we love. It becomes the what is it? The rogue that we love. The rogue that we love. ROG.

Thank you for joining me today. I appreciate you, man. And thank you for just, you shared a lot of your life with the world. Is it sometimes scary? How much you've shared?

Like when you... It's a record for some more. You had one man who was taking call me a drug dealer. I don't have the discipline to be a drug dealer because I keep getting high. I'm an alcoholic.

I always have had the discipline to be a drug dealer.

I would be rich. Like anybody was to buy the cops. Let me buy one of the bikes for me. Yeah. God.

I was a man. I was a black coat from you.

Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you.

You were going to say what I interrupted you.

I enjoyed getting high. I was my life. Alcohol too, but both that was my life. I loved man. I was sober.

I'm sober for nine years, believe that. For nine years, congratulations. Thank you. You're welcome for nine years. On the count of three, can we both say our favorite drug.

“If you want to say it at the same time, or is that weird?”

Hey man, I'm a equal opportunity. Oh, sir. You didn't have a favorite. You didn't have a favorite, huh? No.

And then it got me out of me. Anything that got you out of you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

There's something about being yourself. It just gets to be too much done. Once a power man, God gave me more than you can handle. You think that God put too much power in your hands? No.

No way. God broke away before he crowned me.

I'm going to be able to put it.

Amen. Thank you. Thank you. And then you say, "Hey, you're cool, kid. Take this."

Boom. Isn't that bad? You know, I've sat at alcohols from different folks. But nobody, I think, has had, like, on their own face has so many, like, you have a lot of scars on your that are just built into you from, like, wars.

Right? Do you ever look at your face and you can know? Do you know, like, which ones are from which fights and stuff? I think, you know, listen, that's interesting. I think, I think it comes from a accumulation of fighting.

You know, you don't wake up all the night. And you have a line on your face. It comes after a year, the year, the week. And I mean, you say, "Oh, I got it right on my face." Which was the start of, as you started 10 years ago.

But you just haven't seen it yet. Oh, so you kind of get worn in, sort of. Absolutely. Yeah, pretty good. You have a documentary that you're starting that's coming out this year on Netflix.

Is that right? I believe so.

“I don't know when it's coming out, but I believe it's coming out.”

Okay. You've done a lot of documentaries. Did you feel different about this? We're like, what do you feel like there's something different to offer now to people that are going to consume? I think you're still not interested in it.

And we give you the art of the answer. There's things that people believe that other people want to hear from me that I've been saying constantly since the beginning of interviews. So it's more of the perspective that it's my perspective. I may think it's shit.

Yeah. They may think the master be. Yeah. So non-serious. Yeah.

No, it's all perspective. Most of us don't like ourselves on the, you know, we all like ourselves up to that much, you know. You know, the people, the people do. Okay.

You can't help with it. You're very, they mean by it came to see you. You're very popular. You can't help that. That's what I thought.

You think it's your fault really? That's just like there's no. No, I think it's interesting. Yeah. I think it's true.

Yeah. Yeah. I can tell that you feel that way. And if you had a, if there was a time in your life that you could go back to and had a, a documentary crew, that just in your own life, like in your childhood or anything,

that you could just have that footage. What would it be?

“What would it be when I first met my mentor, Costa Bardo?”

I mean, first one.

I mean, when I first met my first day.

I first met my first guy in trouble. And I was in that juvenile detention. I was doing stuff there. And then I started boxing. I started changing my life.

Then I met him. That's the boy I wish to come back. Yeah. I missed that. What was it about at that?

I don't know. I have somebody I love, and they love me. How do you know that he loved you? Oh, fuck. I'm going to tell her.

He, um. Yeah. If, oh. I mean, if I say something to him. Ah.

If anybody say something to him. No. No. It's still crying. No.

It's hard. It's hard to know. Sometimes it's hard to know. No. If anybody say something.

Negative about being. You would attack them. 75. Who would that? So we protected you.

Yeah. And why didn't you talk about this bullshit? Stop. Stop. What?

Stop. What? Stop. What the fuck. Stop.

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Stop. Shouldn't have bells. Should we go back to the horse for a minute?

No. I think it's just interesting. Like, there's times in your life where people come along and they kind of like, hold you up out of neck and like, you know, kind of dry your cheeks and stuff like that and and give you a place to beat.

I think I need the mentor in that life. Everybody. You know, you got a bad mentor. That's better than having no mentor. Hmm.

What was it like, uh, with costs outside of the ring? What was that like? Like, was that energy opposite? They're family adopted you or no? Yeah.

He did. Yeah. Did you give your own room? Well, I had to earn that. You did get to earn it.

I had to earn that. And how did you earn it? Like, what was that like, you mean? Well, I might have to do my children.

You know, I'm getting my C minus.

So I'm getting, I'm getting D's now and B's. I'm coming up. T's the right. It makes letters back at home. My men proving on that crap.

Yeah. He loved that stuff. And was there stuff around the house? You had to do like, what kind of choice? I think like this year.

I was took out the garbage. I bought them, sleep the floor. Yeah, I did the whole thing, man.

“Like, what was the different feeling that you got there?”

I guessed it. Well, I thought I had to hold my head. And that was a structure. I had to do my tools. Me building my discipline up.

After every training time, I finished training. I had the mom and sleep the team. Sleep them up to jump. Even though I was a big shot, I'm being in front of cover. Sports industry.

I'm taking all the pictures from all the cameras.

Everybody looking at me at the end of the day. The room in the mom. Yeah. Do the gym. Hey, man.

Whenever, because he passed away, how long was he in your life for? Since I was 12, so I was 19. And when your career grew, did you guys put any, like, was it harder to be close to him? I did you get, like, so kind of, like, busy that you, that it was tougher to. You know, let me explain.

He was like, my father. He's my doctor for. I would easily adopt this father. I wasn't out of this fight much. I didn't let me out of this fight much.

He, he watched who I hung out with. He was my, he was my everything. If anybody says something negative about me, he actually, he got the doctor. These don't want to part. Yeah.

He was just like that.

“And had you felt that before in your life, you think or now?”

Never, never. If he told me to kill somebody I would. No, I'm determined. That's how it was. That's how deep it was.

He said kill that boy. He's dead. Yeah.

Well, hey, people gotta go.

Yeah. Well, no, but that's the, I'm just keeping it real. That's how it was taught. That's how it taught. So the connection was that it was this how much?

Yeah. Cool. After he passed away, did you try to find, like, another custom, like, custom, I don't know. Nobody else like you. But was there a part of you that was looking for something like that?

Like that, doesn't exist. Yeah. Was filled in. Yeah. He was born only for me.

He was what? He was born only for me. Oh, you feel like he was made for you. Awesome. That's awesome.

And he probably felt that about you, I bet. Well, I hope so. Hope so.

“Have you had the opportunity to try and be that for somebody else in your life?”

Or, like, do you feel like you have some of the same, like, like, capabilities that he had? It takes a special person to be that type of person. And we're all special in different ways. I'm nowhere near the person that he was. We're born from two different structures and fibers.

He's just a total disciplinary and a yoga heart. He's just, he almost wants to be perfect. He's hardly makes any mistakes around people. We won't do anything. He's just wants to be right at every moment.

You know, he puts himself in position to be right. He's just, I can say, Megalamania, but he was just a disciplinary person. Sometimes he's going without even. Sometimes he, what I'm sorry. He's just me, stop.

He's me, stop. He's me, stop. He's me, stop. He's just, stop. He's, stop.

Wait. I'm waived at the same shit. You had this in your life. [ Laughter ] Am I out?

She was flagging here from back there. Was she really? She was. Oh, that's so bullshit. [ Laughter ]

I knew that, right? You see, I knew this shit. I know this. Yeah. That's what it's like.

If you love somebody, got to keep them clean, you know? I hear you. Um, can you say that last part though, he was such a disciplinary person? Was he, was he disciplined in his own life? Like, did he, like, do you?

He didn't know I needed a war or two. Okay, so he was very, he almost had an institutionalized disciplinary person. Like, if I'm going to the school dance and then, like, what? Three miles away in the tax people. Like, I think, because the tax people will be a little late.

I can't stay up for you. No, no! Oh, I went to girls, moved away for the cab. I think baby, you got to wait for the cab. I got my shoes on my head home.

Did you leave now? I got to run home, yeah. And in dress shoes, probably for things. Yeah, I got to run. I got to run 'em.

Get home, no! Run! Get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get. Yeah, you're right. It's hard to keep a girl when you act and like that.

I was too scared. I was extreme. It's hard to have a girl. I was too extreme to the training. What was your relationship?

You were really upset. You weren't even trying to date or anything as a youngster. Yeah, I dated kind of late. You know, I was like, I was like, how is that phone up with fighting?

She talked about what? Yeah.

Yeah, they don't want to see you shadow box.

Yeah. 'Cause they want to hold. I mean, they like the part when the rest tries to separate. No, no. They don't mind seeing me shadow box.

But they wanted to talk to people. I wanted to talk about fighting. You loved it that much. Yeah. What made you love that?

Why was it such a magnet for you? Do you think fighting?

“I think because when I was young, I watched some of the big time fight.”

I think it was just a way to crowdrooted for people's name. I wanted to remove my name one day. Yeah. That's cool, huh? Did you feel like it?

Why did you do? Like, it's interesting. Some people had this feeling that you need. They want somebody to see them, right? Or they want to have a say in the world.

Yeah.

Did you feel like you, like, were missing part of that?

Were you not being seen or do you? Oh, I just want to cast them. I'm going to tell them the greatest fight of this beginning of life. That was 12. We told them that at 12.

And you believed them? Yes. 'Cause you trusted them. Yes. Wow.

That's pretty powerful. That it would just be able to envelop that that much. No. I think you picked a kid 12 years old, tell him you're the greatest fighter in the world. You're looking at him like he's an old, perro guy.

Trying to do something. You know, I'm really amazed. I'm a ski from a crook. I'm a fucking world greater fighter in the world. I thought there's some kind of trick.

The youth center was trying to pull on me. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Those youth centers.

So this guy turned out to be the real deal.

And I turned out to be my guy. I ain't like whatever that fuck people think I am. Yeah. So he was the real deal. Do you think if you hadn't had, like,

because, you know, I've heard you talk about being a scared as a kid and having, like, you know, your mother passed me when you were young. And I'm going to talk about some of that. I'm just saying things. I don't talk about anything.

Okay.

“Those are just some things that I know about you, right?”

I don't know you, but those are things that I know about you. I mean, thank you, no, but you'll figure it out now. Okay. Oh. All right.

Thank you, Mike. Thank you for spending time with us. And with me, thank you. I didn't think I was going to like you. You made it good, bro.

Really? Thanks, bro. I appreciate that. My wife told me, "No judge and no judge." I said, "No judge and no judge."

She's got a very, you could tell she's a very, she's a, she's a good soul of your wife. Yeah, she did. She believed in you. Yeah, she did.

Do you think that you, if you'd have been, if you'd have had the things you needed as a child, like the things that every child needs, right? I don't want that. Stay away from me.

Keep that shit away from me. I like the suffer. You like the way it went? I love the suffer. I don't want no good time.

Right, man. Oh, you like the discomfort? Oh, yes. I like being, I like being out of me. And I'll be getting out of my comfort zone.

But if you'd have had the stereotypical things that people, I would be a bitch.

“Would you have been the heavyweight champion of the world?”

No. Wow. The heavyweight bitch of the world. I know. I'd be wearing slippers during the day probably.

I'd be wearing a dang slippers during the day. My mother would, my mother would baby me when I'm in a fight. And all that stuff, God, wasn't meant for me to have my mother. Did she baby you as a kid? Like what was she like? She was a drunk, she was a prostitute, but she was who she was.

You know, my mom, my mom had like a issue when I was a kid. Like she couldn't look at me because-- Why, what's wrong with you? God, I know what they do. He knows something that we don't know.

I don't know if she did. But something was wrong with her. Like she just couldn't. Like something that like when my mom was growing up like her dad, like um, would make them like put his food under the door.

He would not talk to my mom for like for months at a time. And he would go in and out of their house through the window. I found something mental illness. Yeah, right. And then it was like what they call now and feel it.

Right. Right. It was just like kind of a reverse drive through. Yeah. But anyway, I'm just saying like, there was just like--

So early on, I realized I got to take care of myself, right? Like, and I don't know if that was the truth, but inside of myself, I made that decision. Like, I probably was a kid from maybe 45 seconds. And since then, I was an adult.

I don't care if I was two months old. Does that make any sense to you? Exactly. You know, my mom and my, my wife is kind of showing me that. And she believed that we act for our parents.

And then when I started believing, I said, I didn't have the parents I had. I would never be me.

I'm feeling that. Yeah. She may have something there. I did pick those parents.

“If I didn't have those parents, I would be fucked up.”

Yeah. She might be right. Like, what's a nice memory that you have with your mom that was like something that you think about that was like kind of like a moment that you kind of cherish. It was one Christmas day.

And I personally was on Christmas. Your mother's birthday was on Christmas? I don't know how we got from money. But it was just a festival, a friend. They had food there.

And then we were eating food.

And we have never had that much food before.

And I don't know how late after money. I know it was something that's got dugger issues. But I'm sure. Skull dog. A little bit of Skull dog agreed?

Yeah. Some sure. Something they broke the law. But it was just a great moment. And that's all I was accustomed to.

I was accustomed to the pimps. The criminals to stick up guys. I was all being over my mother's house. And stuff like that. We had a house of crime.

I lived in a house of crime. Where did you sleep to get your own room? No, come on home. I looked up on the floor. And I'd like it if I were.

[LAUGHTER] The better for the, for the, for the, for the Johns, for the Johns. Yeah. Exactly. I was there.

I think for the tricks. But yeah, the Johns, the bedroom. Oh, no. We got up there. Are you for real?

“I would know if my brother's sister's heard me living.”

Bring back memory soon. A bad trip.

You slept on each other's backs.

One person had a lay down flat. And the other person got to sleep. And we didn't do that. We slept on different parts of the floor. But, you know, you had to, the, the, the, the, the air condition.

Then you turned the big fan. Oh, dude. I remember our mom, my mom would only let it be. 80 degrees in the house, right? And I'm like, well, that, and at the time, when I was a kid,

I didn't know that that's pretty warm, right? And so, we would go get the cold water. And we would just put it all over the sheet. And then we would lay on it like that. Make a little beach.

Go to Florida. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] All right. It was fun.

It was fun, right? It was just so beautiful sometimes. If you can laugh at it, it's hilarious. Oh, it is. We have some fun.

None more fun in the poverty. Oh, dude. It doesn't matter.

It doesn't care how rich a fan is you get.

It still doesn't affect you. [LAUGHTER] Oh, yeah, how big you get. Memories. [LAUGHTER]

And come down to the memories. [LAUGHTER] Bro, I'll tell you something. This is a little racial, but let's do it. Because we go for it.

“We used to live like, people would burn their trash in the ditch, right?”

And so me and my buddy William, we would get out there. And my buddy Larry, and we would get all wet. And we would run and jump through the smoke in the ditch until we were pretty dorkerish, right? [LAUGHTER]

And then broke. We kind of wait until somebody drove by. And he held it in for that. [LAUGHTER] Anyway, I hate that fact.

Say nigger. [LAUGHTER] And say nigger. [LAUGHTER] You don't say nigger for the same thing.

[INAUDIBLE] There are only few draw-by calls as niggers. [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE] Do you need me to say?

If you need, I don't want to do something. I can't tell what's going on here to be honest with you. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER]

I think I'll chuck through some-- [LAUGHTER] I didn't think that you say one thing that'd be ashamed. All right? Yeah.

I'm a nigger lover. You need me to say-- Yeah. I'm a nigger lover. Glad.

But does it mean all of them? Kind of a little bit. [LAUGHTER] I got it. Even a rotten one.

[LAUGHTER] I don't know. I don't know if people think I should do it or not. [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING]

[MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] Please, please, please, please. Come on, man. If I fucking show up, man.

If I fucking show up, man. You right, bro. [INAUDIBLE] Oh. I just--

[LAUGHTER] What can I say, bro? I'm in [BLEEP] Love a bro. [LAUGHTER]

God is great, brother. God is great. God is great. Now, hold on. [LAUGHTER]

No. Who is she in for this? [LAUGHTER] I love this show. I love this fucking show.

Fuck. Are we going to jail or not? Are we okay? [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER]

Another knockout from Mike. [LAUGHTER] Here comes the fight pass. This is because he's got a new podcast. He's trying to get me off the charts.

That's why. [LAUGHTER] Mike, can't we give him your disc?

And he's scared to say negative about that.

[LAUGHTER]

“I don't know if-- if that was another second.”

[LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] Oh. Ah. [LAUGHTER]

[INAUDIBLE] That negative pussy, the motherfucker. [LAUGHTER] I cry. Forgive me, girl.

Hold on. I'm sorry. I mean, I don't know. I've had a little-- I don't-- You know, I don't--

I don't look at what? Huh? You have a little? I think you have a little. I don't know.

I think we should move on. [LAUGHTER] You know what time it is, girl? You know what time it is? Prize picks.

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So I'm in the airport one time, right? (Laughter) Remember that show,

“do you remember when good times was pop and bro?”

It was really good time. Dude, I'll tell you the story. So I'm in the airport one time, right? Jimmy Walker, the actor from good times, right?

One of the great comedians. He's walking in the airport. Somebody starts yelling, "Dino, my dad." The police thought it was like a...

(Laughter) (Laughter) They didn't see him. (Laughter) They didn't see him.

(Laughter) They didn't see a couple of little bit to yelling, "Dino, my dad." And they jumped on him, bro. And I could have helped and told people

was going on, but I had to... I was in hurry. (Laughter) You know how to get to Cincinnati? Yeah, good pie.

That was a good show. Do Janet Jackson was on there. Yes. Do you ever get to meet Janet? If I have, I didn't have a chance to meet Janet.

And someone... This is a rumor that I heard that you and Michael Jackson closed down SeaWorld one night and had a party there. Is that true? This is not true at all.

It's not true. (Laughter) Don King told me that. He's a liar. (Laughter)

I'm joking. He didn't tell me that, bro. (Laughter) But we knew if he did, he'd lied about it. He tells the truth by accident.

Yeah. (Laughter) He tells the truth by accident. (Laughter)

Yeah. It is what it is, dude. But no, it...

Did you actually get to spend time with Michael Jackson

because he's such a... Yeah. What was he like as a person? I've splendid. Beautiful person.

He'd gotten all that stuff. He was a beautiful, calm, humble person. And I didn't like him for a long time. He was a friend that called me. He said, "Hey, man, I'm over my side."

And once he said, "I fucked that baby." He just respected me. Then, "I'm fucked that baby." Michael Jackson said all that? I said that.

Okay. And then my friend when I did. He said, "Really?" He asked for me to call you. I said, "I'll be right there."

What was he like? Was he just like a... The very shy, he very humble. He was that the end of his... No, he was dealing with that bad stuff.

A child's stuff. He was dealing with that. He was really... And no one. He was four people at the house.

No friend. So, I... And it was just... And I got to know him. That's not too far.

But... I'm... I'm doing fine. Um... I love him.

Yeah, beautiful.

Ah, don't you get to be some kind of red neck.

Yeah, beautiful. Yeah, beautiful. I'm doing all right. I just feel lucky to be here with you today, man. Beautiful.

Um... Do you think Michael was... Did he...

“Do you think he was involved in that kind of stuff?”

And you got to know him, but do you ever feel that about him or no? I had a different opinion about him. I forgot to know him. Got it, yeah. Holy different opinion.

Dude, I've read somewhere. Actually, I didn't read it a lot. I'm lying to you. So, one of my friends told me that... Like, he had some girls with him.

I mean, he was like, in choir under the knees. These are your girlfriends. And he said, "Get your own bitches, too." Oh, he did. Now, I'm not... I'm saying that.

I'll tell you what happened. Please do. Michael, do you actually come to a dog? He said, "Come, come, come, come, come, come and clean the meat. My babies." And he was like, "See, Michael, I'm very calm. I want to see."

So, I'll be walking to the shows. The last song. We're walking to the river. We walked down the middle of the aisle. He goes like this. The dog came down. He put the tan up.

I go like this.

And he puts his hand down.

And I said to myself, "I'm not Michael, yes. This is nothing." No, he don't know. He is... He's the big... he's performing. He can't be thinking about me. Of course not me. So, I go in the back.

I'm in the back. It's whole staff. It's just loving me. Love the band that I gave me. It's the same thing. It's all over me.

My type of corner chill. I'm like, "It was the door, but I guess you wait for a car. It's going to jump in the car." And anyway, it's all me.

“I think, let me go over there and say hi to Mike.”

You know, because I want to go see with the good night. I go over there and before I say anything, it goes in. What do I know you from? This is the biggest moment in my life.

I just think Mike thinks me. The whole world's talking about nothing but me. He looked at me. What I know you from? What's familiar?

What I know you from? I said, "No, we're Mr. Jack. That's just a fan." I said, "You can bother for me." I said, "That was a good work."

I hate a member cent. I hate it. My friend that caught me, that came over out of the mic. He called you over. That was out of the night.

Wow. I didn't even think that that was just a little kid. He said that to me. You think he was joking? Oh, he was dead serious.

Wow. You think he was very competitive. He was too competitive. He was not friendly with nobody. Yeah.

That's been out in the music business that you don't bend in the ear. You had a bit of an ear for Mike. Yeah, he didn't even. He wasn't friendly even with Blackball. He's freaking it up.

No. White. You thought it'd be. You don't say you got to have an issue with him. Yeah, well listen.

Everybody's going that route now. I've seen a bunch of athletes and things that go that route. Yeah. A black kind of white route. Yep.

That's it. Hey. Red Rover. Red Rover. Come on.

You know. Send him over, bro. Passing his pass. Yeah. Yeah.

What if, like, and some of this is just, like, lower stuff. What about Whitney Houston? Did you ever get to meet her? I knew Whitney very well. No way.

Yeah. Very well. Was she so deep? She can't have been to me in prison. I was in prison.

She can't have been to me. She did. You're one of my good friends.

“And when was that when you were in prison, New York?”

Yeah. I was just checking to see if you remember where you were in prison. Yeah. I have a lot of listen. I have a lot of really interesting visits.

My really interesting people. Whitney came to visit. Did she sing for you or anything like that? Did she just come and spend time? No.

She brought a family on the family. She came to me. Who else came to visit you? I don't know quite a few people. What about Michael Landon?

He was dead, man. Was he dead? He was dead then. I'll see how the cancer makes it. So listen.

Patrick's crazy. He was dead. Do I dare? What? Why don't all the white people die in your stories?

I'm starting to notice this. Why? Hey. I'm Florence Henderson. I can't.

No way. He can't be. But listen to this. She can't have been to me. But I'm locked in the hole.

I had the fight we wanted to guard. So I'm not going to come up. You come out the only guy come out chains. I'm not going to come out like that.

I'm going to do that. Because you wouldn't.

You didn't want her to see you like that.

I don't want to see me in shackles and my feet. I'm like crazy. Yeah. When they put you into the hole. So I know it's like 23 hours of darkness.

Right. And then one hour of light. Or vice versa the other way. No. It's the light on all night.

Oh, the light on all night. Oh, that's good. At least you get up or whatever. You can't give you a fight. You're a fine headache.

Oh, yeah. 24 hours a day for like what? 10 weeks. No. Yeah.

What starts to happen to somebody in there? Is it anything helpful? Yeah. The piece of solid to this healthy. Very healthy.

The solid to it. And what is most of it was, believe in not not able to be by itself for a long period of time. You know, we haven't developed the relationship with ourselves. We're a door ourselves.

We can't stop up being up and stop being in our own presence. And I guess that's the way to be across the happiness of even though even though we go to the batch, it makes that beautiful too. Yeah, I think I'm. I don't know in my life, like. I feel like in my life, my whole life, I was waiting for somebody to show up, right?

I don't even really exactly know who it was. But then like recently, I'm realizing that I think I'm just waiting for me to show up. Like any sense to you. I know what that is about. But we have to, you know what I mean.

That's your narrative. How did that guy appear? How do you make that guy appear? Right. The first thing that I'm learning for myself and some of this is pretty recent is just like having some integrity, like, you know, if I say I'm like, like, because if I say I'm going to do something and I don't not hear myself do that, right?

And so after a while, I don't even believe myself. I think after a while, I could even listen to myself. Like, well, how many times am I going to lead myself on, you know? I don't know if that's exactly true.

“But I think that's the best thing I try to have for that.”

It's always the hour-tower.

It's always the hour-tower. It's always the hour-tower. I'm from the world that you come from as well. You know, the recovery world. And it's the battle.

It's about some guy to serve for 20 years or some bone. They took me to the judge and killed themselves. It's a constant battle. You know, when I went up to the end of the day to just over and with that, then you won. If you ever do any drugs and you beat the system that was killing you, you go a diet bone.

But sometimes these guys stop using drugs for 30 years and go back. Yeah. And I mean, you just can't believe it. So you never safe. You never safe.

Yeah. No way to get out of here alive. I love that. Yeah. It kind of makes it exciting, doesn't it?

It's kind of funny to get out of here alive. As you get older, one of the things that gets a little bit exciting is dying because it's a new adventure. I don't listen. Does that make sense? That makes too much sense.

I found out. Death is another part of life.

He just never experienced yet.

“You know, life is good. How deaf could be deaf.”

The honest. If God loves the fuck, the deaf will be bad. Let me look at God the way we believe from the be. How could deaf be bad if he created it? If we didn't think it was final,

then how would we behave in this time that we're hearing that? Listen, God prepared us. The universe prepares us to deaf. You know, little by little. We lose our friends.

We lose people we care about. We lose our hair. We lose our teeth. We lose our life. It's not that happens.

It's spontaneous. You know, it's meant to be. Yeah, we lose our ability to be around black people safely because I've said the end word in here. Yeah. You know, I mean, black people love a year and a year, and they can love me without negative haters.

Hey, that's a good point. Well, thanks for looking out for me. I hope that I hope that not able to can't feel it this young. You see, we talked about negatives. Hey, negative.

We've got people who can't follow. Oh, and never fail. The negative will get you. The word negative. Oh, it's great to see some equality at last.

“Are you sometimes amazed like when you look at your life?”

How much grace God has had in your life? I realize that if you don't believe in God, look at me. Because I should not be right here talking to you. Oh, no. No, you can't believe that.

No, man. Listen, listen, no really. Well, I mean, my 30s, I got, um, I said, yes. He's a god that I really, 30 trick. He allowed me to live to be 60.

God, then. If I didn't know, I was going to do 60 out of play the game. Yes, sir. Oh, man, yes, sir. I thought, fuck, you suck my dick.

Fuck you. I would that mouse hit. Yeah, you talk. Oh, man, you're 60 years old. Yes, sir.

How are you doing, man? Oh, I'd walk right up to heaven like this, bro. I'd walk right in heaven, man. Sit at my table. Yeah, if I'd have been.

Yeah, I think there's something about like when you feel like you're doing everything yourself. Like, did you feel like that is a kid like every day? I'll figure this out.

Like, did you have that, like chip on your shoulder? Yeah, chip on your shoulder. You still don't know? I have my mentor. He took me that the ever seen the negatively above myself.

Really? What is a beautiful thing about myself? Customers taught you that? Yes. And what did he tell you exactly?

The only beautiful things about myself and the never seen the negatively above myself

'cause my subconscious don't know some playing or not. Mm. [APPLAUSE] It's pretty, isn't it wild, Heather? Something's up.

I learned that at 12 years old. I had to learn that at 12 to be the champion at 20. Mm. I learned that at 15, 16, hey, it probably wouldn't have worked out. There have been chapter 22 probably.

Yeah. Everything worked out for the right reason.

“What was one of the hardest walks to the ring you ever had to make?”

All the walks are the same. Pretty much. You know, it becomes a routine. Was there one that like, you didn't want it or it. Things that changed or you were like, I don't know.

I've never been a wife. I always wanted it because we came out of the ring when the lost my life changed in a good perspective for my family. Right. You got you a provider for your family for sure.

That's all I know how to do. When did you become an adult? Excuse me? What happened to me? What happened to me?

What happened to me? What happened to me? I can't even tell you. I was no problem. Who were 45 or something like that?

Dude, African wet the bed all was 27. That's meant to illness. That meant to illness. Yeah. Yeah, it is.

But they don't say that. They just call you Mr. Drippie drop. No, they don't call you Mr. Drippie. Pettie. Pettie cool.

Pettie cool. They call you yellow boy. Yellow boy. But yeah.

“What do you think made you start to turn like finally?”

I got a group or something happened. I'm becoming a group. Because some guys took my petties and bullied me.

And I was the first time I fought back.

And it was like, love that first fight. And it was not fighting in the sense. Some guys did it. What? They didn't do the right kind of guy back then.

You remember him? Yeah. Who was he? Gary Flowers. Fuck him.

Love to get his man. How could he do it? I think the young kid became a bully. I was a little fat kid. They bullied me all the time.

Yeah, but even if I saw a kid that was kind of like, had some glandular issues or whatever. I'm not going to break a bird's night. And it's just, um, that's all about humiliating people. Oh, it's like a humiliating person.

Right. I'm going to make you feel this way. Oh, did you ever get him back? Oh, I beat the dog shit out of me. [LAUGHTER]

And that's the best thing I ever did. Every day I fought for three times a day. I can't stop fighting. I loved it so much.

“And were you having trouble finding people to fight?”

Oh, no. They used to bring people for me to fight for money. Oh, really? Yeah. Well, and so who we get the money?

The guy would say this. If you went, you get this much. If you lose, you get this much. Hmm. So no matter what you ate for money.

Yeah, it made for money.

But what's the first thing you kind of bought when you got a money?

I don't know some weed. Some candy. [LAUGHTER] We need a candy, bro. That's what I'm talking about, bro.

I had my lunch. He's ready for the lunch. He's a now and later. He's gonna be now and later. Dude, yeah, but they make your tea stick together.

I know. Oh, but it's good when you're high. Yeah, you're right. You're high, you don't mind. You know, you're like, I know your tea stick out with them a gun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

The tea stick out in the gun. Oh, the shape of your tea stick? Yeah. Yeah, that shit was cool, bro. I like that shit, man.

I really like that, man. Yeah, that has some black pussy. [LAUGHTER] What is this? [LAUGHTER]

Hey, I don't-- I'm just asking, guys, between me and him, please don't respond. [LAUGHTER] I mean, I've had-- yeah, I mean, during the holidays one time I had a little.

[LAUGHTER] That's true. I'm not talking about no Jewish girl with a great tan. I mean, a black girl. [LAUGHTER]

I won't talk about some real, yeah. Some of that freaking-- yeah. [LAUGHTER] I'm just saying, like, I'm just trying to think, "Yes, I had some-- I've had a little."

[LAUGHTER] I've had a little. I have had, Mike. [LAUGHTER] I have.

Actually. [INAUDIBLE] You put it all the way into that. Wasn't that little? [INAUDIBLE]

[INAUDIBLE] You put it all the way into that. [LAUGHTER] Oh, yeah, it's a little when you put it in. It doesn't go in a lot.

[LAUGHTER] That's like-- It's more than hokey-pocking.

[LAUGHTER]

You go in, she comes out.

[LAUGHTER] But I've had a little, man. I've had a little, and I-- Yeah, I would get some more. [LAUGHTER]

Yeah. I'd get some more sometimes. You know, what's-- [INAUDIBLE] What's the body shape?

Name somebody's body shape. Well, some black women, you fuck them, and they fuck back, kind of, you know? [LAUGHTER] They got that vagina, kind of.

It'll fuck you back. You know, it's almost like when you-- [LAUGHTER] The last one here was like, I fuck the waco. She did that too.

Oh, my God. Same thing. [LAUGHTER] But I almost try to-- I was sort of in this black lady that worked at the airport for a while.

But they said, move along eventually. You could get tickets for your flight. Do your free flights? No. I mean, free flights?

Why are you messing with it? I mean, I'm not going to date no good at the airport, and I can't free flights, man. Yeah, you're right. You're right.

I don't know. Look, man. Maybe you'll set me up with a good galley, you know. I don't know any good girls. [LAUGHTER]

I've got a good time. I know a good girl. I give a good time. Did you ever have like a-- because Hollywood's people be--

people steal people's spouse or girlfriend's boyfriend's.

“Did you ever have somebody steal a girlfriend yours here?”

I'm sure they did, but I just don't know about it. You didn't. Yeah. I feel bad, actually, because I was saying that question, but I knew another question I was going to ask.

Somebody said that Brad Pitt stole a girlfriend yours one time. No, that's the answer to the story, yeah. All right. No, it didn't steal up for me. Why am I wife? We're going to do the voice. Why can't we still fucking?

Okay.

We're always fucking every night.

We were still fucking. They were fighting in the paper. They were fucking night. But one day, I wanted to-- I was the fucking she wasn't home, nobody. And then, driving up to go with the BMW.

I brought her. And she had some-- I thought it was the one of her friends from head to the class. But it wasn't one of them. There was some nigga--

Brad Pitt trying to get some head. No, no. Yeah, so-- That honky was weathered? Yeah.

[LAUGHTER] Like, well, that's fine. Yeah. [LAUGHTER] There.

Brad, hon-- And honky was trying to slide on-- There he does. [LAUGHTER] Oh, my God.

“Back then, we got to call Brad Pitt a honky.”

It's going to happen. [LAUGHTER] They'd be in the full brother. But you called him in the driveway? Yeah, he'd be.

If I was just-- Yeah. Do you punk him a little? No. I guess he's Brad Pitt.

At least if you're-- if you're-- if you're girls going to be with somebody, he's got-- if it's Brad Pitt, that's-- That's okay. [LAUGHTER] I don't see-- yeah, I guess you're Brad.

[LAUGHTER] What was that? I would be-- but he wasn't Brad Pitt yet. Oh, he wasn't Brad Pitt yet. No, no, no.

The fucking was-- [LAUGHTER] He was just Brad? Yeah. [LAUGHTER]

And she was driving him into that one car. [LAUGHTER] That's some Brad shit. [LAUGHTER]

Brad never got a car, bro.

I think seven Brad did have cars, bro. None of them bastards. Yeah. Oh. Have you been good at being in love?

Do you think of your life?

“I've gotten someone to trouble being in love in my life.”

And I love his own. I love his so many entities. You know what I mean? Love has been-- you've gotten in so much trouble? No, I don't have trouble in love.

I have trouble with me. Well, that's nothing to do with it. Love has trouble with you? No, it's me with the trouble. I haven't-- not-- not-- not that no beef with me.

Love's supposed to do with it, though. That's supposed to do what I do. And that's what we do. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER]

You take your heart a love or not? Huh? You take your heart a love? Um. I think that I'm a quiet taste.

[LAUGHTER] Um, I'm-- I'm wouldn't have to know that I could be replaced. But I'm confident in the way in the world with lightning. Hmm. [APPLAUSE]

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“How did that affect you like as a person do you feel like?”

I know the truth that I've never been.

That's just some form of imagination really being some big star. I know who I am. I know what I've accomplished in life, the good, the bad. You know, but there's not many people you know listen. I walk with poverty and I sit with presence.

It's not too many things I haven't done in my life. So I just take my life day by day. I don't make too many plans. I met your wife now, Kiki. Yeah.

It's just impersonal. I'm going to say she's a beautiful nice lady. You can say she's very interested. She's very interested. I'm sure.

I don't know her well. She seems very kind to eyes and she seems like she really cares about you. So those are things that I noticed. And you guys have some beautiful children.

“I saw some of one of them I think is here too.”

Michael. Michael. Miguel. But Miguel. Lossian though.

And Miron. And Milan. Yeah. Kiki seems to just have like, she wants to make sure that you're okay. Right?

Is it like what's it like now with this relationship? What's this marriage like? I don't know. It's too perfect. We need a bullshit and that other thing.

Yeah. We really cool.

We have a great connection.

You know. We bullshit. That'd be down there.

“What's something you really love about her?”

I just love her being a mother. She's awesome mother. Awesome wife. And the all around beautiful person. I really hit the jackpot with this monkey.

She's a good person. Where did you meet? Kiki. I knew it since she was like 1918. Yeah.

Is she like a strong woman in the household? Like what's that kind of energy like? Like did she make you get up early or anything? No. That's the whole thing.

I like the moves. What's that? And my wife, I don't have to move. Yeah. Yeah.

And I have to move. She takes care of me. Everything. I got the real wife that you know cooked for me. Bring my food.

If I'm tired, she'll feed me. I got it.

Oh, you got a green, huh?

Yeah. That's nice. And then she's also, she's also my pet. And she's also my tiger too. She's my defender.

So she has that energy. Hmm. No, you got to have somebody that has that. Oh, you have so. There's nobody has to move a fury that a woman.

And that's just in general. There's nobody that fights on the fierce food that a woman. Oh, dude. They can make a child. If you went on a late on her back for nine months, we could make a shit.

No. No. They can listen. They can, they can, they can bleed nine months to me. But you will cut her hand.

We get affectionate. You know, women are especially breed. Yeah. Well, there are wizards. They're damn wizards.

I'll say that. But they are also a great breed. No. It has to be. That's the biggest gift card that ever give us is a woman.

Yeah.

It's going to precious gift card that ever give us is a woman.

Yeah. That's it for you. Hi. I agree. Hi.

I agree, man. Hey. This is our show. It's been had. You've heard the man.

“I think, uh, like, fathering and fame would seem like it's really hard for me.”

Yeah. Me too. How about your life? I don't have any children yet. Oh, God bless you, man.

What? God bless you. Did this doesn't work well with children? Well, I don't want things that I've said or done to influence my children's life. I don't want to look at them a certain way or have certain expectations out of them.

But you have to fear that much. But your life has been at an insane amount of that. Like, what was that? Did it make it hard for you? Like, what was it like fathering and having your life?

Like in the fame? I don't know. My kid that would grade life. And then they ever started complaining. They should think about it.

They should have my father. Then they would have right to complain. Yeah. He would not have a right to complain. My kid would go to the best school.

The world could offer. They had the best part. They had the best opportunities to work offer. It's up to them to take advantage of it. Hmm.

[ Applause ] Where was your father from? North Carolina. Oh, dude. No way.

I'm going to forget in Wyoming to this weekend. Sure. He's going to be sure. Oh, Charlotte. Charlotte's okay.

I don't know. I don't know. I'm fine with it. [ Laughter ] I will tell you this story.

So one time I was in Charlotte, right? And I hadn't been there before.

“My friend and I were sitting on a patio.”

We were just getting some meat. And I saw somebody pushing a baby carriage down there. Right? And they were wearing a couple of different like, like shawls or like rugs.

Almost like a bunch of like tapestries and stuff over them and over the carriage. And I thought it was like a homeless guy. Like a French homeless guy, right? Because he's French.

Well, just he was a very collard. Look like dude. French. And North Carolina. Well, just because of the elegance of the shawls and stuff,

they seem very French. Very French. Very French. [ Laughter ] Yeah, French.

It was freaking Cam Newton pushing his newborn down the street. How are you, sir? I swear. That is the true story. And that's true.

That's true. It was him too. I'm keeping looking. I'm like, man, that got the most beautiful elegant, homeless around here.

They really vibe. [ Laughter ] And then I saw if you were running up and get photos. And it was Cam Newton just had a newborn child. And he was taking it for a little saffron and stroll out there

by the McCormick and Schmakes out there. You have anybody who you have a love with? Do everybody I'm in love with? Yeah. [ Laughter ]

I mean, that's right. He's handsome. Very beautiful, sir. [ Cheers and applause ] Nobody else could talk to my hair.

Yeah. If you're not willing to want them right now? No, I'm not willing to want them right now. No, I'm not willing to want them right now. No, I'm not kicking them with no one right now.

I mean, I'm -- you know what I'm saying? I'm saying that. How old are you? How old are you? I'm 46, you know what I'm going to do.

You have to fucking hair. You have to fucking hair. You have to hair. You have to hair. You have to hair.

You have to manly hair. You have to. What's that hair? You have to go. That hair is finished.

Put the manly to eat the hair. [ Laughter ] That hair. But if you're the hair, you think you're the better.

Even at more handsome. And if I had hair, I wouldn't be mad. I'd be in lawsuits. No, that's shit. [ Laughter ]

You're playing lawsuits. That's crazy, bro. That's the hair is power. That's why -- Yeah.

They did that by South African. They couldn't really hear it's power. Well, there's what even when they used to scout people on something. Take their hair, they were taken. They were taken on something.

They were taken on something. That's why I grew my hair. A lot of people think they're in power.

“That's why they always try to cut your hair.”

Boy, look at the animal. Cut your hair. Cut your hair. Keep your fucking hair. Yeah, bitch, I want to be in that hair.

Yeah, keep your fucking hair. Because once you knew it's your hair, you go --

Always with God, I was at it.

But some guy said, "I was in the way." No one in the way, motherfucker. You wish you had your hair back. If the only thing I was in the way of us on the way, you'd be in a little bit.

That's the only thing you're wrong, huh? Well, let that hair grow. But that's how much you grow. Let it grow. Raise that thing.

Let the people fell out of your navel. You can't get a jar. You can't get a jar with a lot of hair now. Yeah, you can get a jar. You can't get a jar with a jar of mechanics, it says anything.

Anything. That makes one money that I have because, and by far. I don't know. You could just brush your hair online and do the pay to watch you do it. You know what I'm saying?

That online thing. If he's the best thing, a pedophile, or ever dream of, I'll just be the biggest hit in the world. One of that is the worst problem. Do you see times changing your brain?

I'm not saying. But like, how bad? Like things are not bad, but things just got as someone's different. It's gotten away from them. Everything became sexual.

Really?

You know, by the way, about who's sleeping with who?

And by the way, about who gender is who? And who's looks like this, and it's all about that now. Yeah. Yes. There used to be so much more, I think.

I don't know. When you put a record of everything, the moment was so great. But because then also, if I needed to know a story,

“the only way I could get it was from you.”

Or from somebody that told it well. Yeah. And so that person had, like, I don't know. They had a ambiance about it. There might be a dude in town.

Only, all he did was tell one story. Or no. Not that one thing could begin in a life. Yeah. And now it's suddenly different.

Yeah. And now, at people out here losing their minds and shit. Killin' them, felt hurt and hurt. Yeah. So sales, Mike.

Did anybody kill them? So when I was a kid, nobody was killing themselves. If you were angry or depressed, you just listened to heavy metal and walked around town. Remember that?

Yes. A man. You know, it's just interesting that people are doing that now. We're sick, though. There's something poisoning us.

Do you agree with that? 100%. I know the government know what it is. Yeah. He's telling.

You know, because death is profitable. You know, people catch, you know, insurance and all that shit. That's very profitable. Even at the more dude, my body freaking died, they put new shoes on them.

Charges is family 300 blocks. I'm like bitch. He's wearing them for 50 minutes. Just get a rental.

And they got a whole first mayor.

That's crazy, man. But I agree there's something the government knows, man. So now people are going to have to rise up. Something's going to have to happen. Do you believe that people have that in us still?

I believe that.

“I believe that some people with elite people.”

They have money and have resources to live longer. To live longer, healthier. You know, imagine being 90 and living healthy. You can still run. You can still fucking.

You still do things. And family. Charges. So exactly. No serious.

Yeah, I feel you. You think that's possible for some people right now. And they're hanging out. That's absolutely right. Absolutely.

The bullshit that I use now, all this. Matters hard. It's shit. They can't. It's just crazy.

Yeah. That's why I'd be going fighting again. Do it next week. I feel. Next thing they're going to give you.

And they kind of got now that then just nothing makes you smarter. What is it? I don't know what did. They're going to listen. You're laughing now.

Don't laugh. When it comes out, you can say Mike was talking about that. You'll be hitting that shit in that. Yeah. I don't know if you get too smart.

You might have a fucking brain for that. Right? Plus. And you're riddled with something. I don't want to.

There's a lot of shit. I don't want to know. Did the smarter I get, I feel like the more I heard of her. No, but listen. They got stuff.

Check this out. Madness, somebody. I have something to do with this needle. And make you laugh. Thirty more years.

Strong. I make you a dick. They're hard of twenty four hours. Well, stuff like that. That's what people are working at.

They whatever. They want. One of our biggest, um. King saw. Right.

It'll be fixed. We have called. They give you a shot. They call. They are right.

No more drugs. They are right. It's all about the. It's going to be all about the needle soon and pills. Oh.

The needles and pills. Did you. Were you ever of needle user or not? Well, I used a lot of needles. You have.

Yeah.

Because that's a different barrier. When you go in and drug use, like I've used a lot of stuff.

I've never used no needles.

I've used like steroids. But I've never used, uh, like in, you know, shooting off. Like, uh, whatever it's called. Yeah. I've never used it.

I know. I wish I would have smoked crack. I will say that. Woo. Stay away from the crack.

Really? You don't normally come back. That's really what you go crack. You don't come back. What was it?

Did you ever get to smoke it? I did want to. Let's. Oh, no. This is what we fucking created.

I will tell you this. Please do. So when they, um, and I do my monthly checkup, I'm still getting high. I'm going to get my checkup with my probation officer. And he gets my probation officer.

He gets my tent of blood tests. I mean, thank you. And he comes back. I come back. He said, um, I might do me just test you for, um, crack.

“But I could tell, uh, uh, was really what they call them?”

Um, what you call a crack at? Oh, uh, uh. Crack. What? Twinkerm?

Twinkerm. He said, yeah, but I got, I had, I had it in me. But he said, I know, Twinkerm.

You know, I took a first test.

I said, fuck. He knew about science. Yeah, he did. I could tell Twinkerm. You know, Twinkerm.

Because by accident, I didn't know what was the crack. Oh, it was just in there. Yeah, well, I took it. But I was the guy telling me. Hmm.

I didn't know. It kind of got fed. That'd be the, yeah, you got first test. Like a total Twinkerm. You know, Twinkerm.

Amen. That's glad. Thank you for telling me that word. Yeah. That's a good stuff.

That's good stuff. And I think I gave me that shit. That's the thing. You don't know what you were getting. Exactly.

I didn't know that was central. I'd be dead as a mother fucker. You got out before Fenton. Thank God. My wife will tell you, right?

It came in the middle of the night. From a drug overdose and it's party.

“And my wife told her that it was on the news.”

And none of the day I come in the house.

Because I was late. My wife always screamed. And he cursed at me. Oh, fuck, I'm high. I just left the house and kept running.

It was a false story. Yeah, it was a move. Well, why don't you throw me a hit me. I got it. I got it.

I got it. Oh, she was pissed. Even if he was alive, she was just pissed. I was alive. I got it.

I got it. I got it. Her mother was pissed too. Yeah, I don't bring that crying. Everything.

I think I'm dead. They check it more than shit. And for the hospital that I walked into the door. Hi. I've come to coop up high and drunk.

I just left the house. Fuck this. I just left the house. These motherfuckers, they can't get over. Yeah, they don't love being.

Dude, yeah, up the year of those days, we stayed up multiple days from doing cocaine or not. Yeah. Absolutely. So, listen.

I'm all that tell this position to it. So, I can't get me to sleep. So, I'm calling the person. I know her, like, a mother for her. Right?

It's like, oh, I don't know. I'm going, oh. And so, I'm calling the person. And I'm saying, my nose is her. I'm fucking okay.

I can't sleep. I've been up for four days. My nose is her. I got scared of my nose. She didn't know.

So, you got to call her the year. She said, "Here it is." I think it. I said, "Wow, that's for better." I never knew.

I had to call her. I just took a hit. And none of that could've got. It was a number anymore. So, I've been here.

I saw that. I have to take another hit. I'm in. Oh. That was nice.

It was a worse time. Oh, man. The worse, bro.

“Did you ever have to sneak into a hospital?”

Or did you have a private doctor? Yeah. Yeah. This is too old. God, listen.

I go to my doctor. You're a doctor. Hold on. Let's get a doctor. Let's get a doctor, bro.

[audience cheering] I go to my doctor. I go to my doctor. I go to my doctor. I'm a quick cocaine right now.

And he's checking me, right? He's giving me, you know, checking out. And it's how you do. And I think you're talking to him. I'm feeling bad.

I need to quit. And it's what? I feel like the quit cook is a really. You just take on my liver. That's the answer.

You have someone. That's the answer. I have the answer. I have the answer. The doctor's my partner.

This is on my children's advice. I'm like, "Fa!" I'm trying to get a help. I'm talking to the doctor, but I've got a problem. You have someone, you know?

You're like, "I have something." It's a blue cross blue shield. No. No. I'm going to rehab now, right?

They put me in rehab. And this is what I do. The guy that do the rehab staff, I come up with a period. He tells me all the rules.

And then I try to be a good guy. Give him my coke. The last bit of coke. He told me I was doing coke before I came in. When I went for a go, we had to get really high.

So I gave him the coke. I really wanted to get so I gave him the coke. My last coke.

He said, "Oh, yeah, I'm cold."

Then he went. And then he said, "I saw him." He said, "Acting funny."

“I said, "I didn't think he'd better have to buy coke."”

Because I was a good coke. I wanted to be a good person. I gave him the money to fucker. Took my coke. So I said, "Hey, man, you took my fucking coke.

You guys thought that'd be a good girl's come over here. So let me have girls come over here. Let me have girls come over here." After rehab? Yeah.

My brain and my children's life, man. Oh. I can't make shit like this. The rehab guy said, "You got coke." And I said, "I give it as none.

I don't want you to hire anyone. I'm going to try to admit it. Let me go away from you." He come back at the wheel. Yeah.

I know the amount of I'm going to pick my coke. I'm like, "Man, actually, I kept that shit there." He said, "I got so fucking mad." Dude, I'll tell you this freaking story. So one time, my friend, we're getting out of an all-over.

He dropped some coke, right? And I didn't know he did coke. And I didn't know I did coke, right? [ Laughter ] I'm in there.

[ Laughter ] So I picked his coke up.

I'd never seen it before.

I just saw this little bag in it. I'll register pretty quick. This is probably cocaine, right? And so we go inside. We're staying at my buddy Kevin's house.

We go inside. And he starts saying, "Hey, will you help me look for something?" But he won't tell me what it is. Because he doesn't want me knowing that he's-- Yeah, I want to give you half of it.

Yeah, yeah, I was going to do it. So I keep sneaking off and doing the coke because we're looking really hard, right? [ Laughter ] Bro, after two hours, he goes to sleep.

I'm still looking for the shit and doing it, bro. [ Laughter ] And I forgot what I was looking for,

“but I kept looking, bro, because that's why I am on committee.”

[ Laughter ] I'm that my fucking level ride with my-- I got to tell this story about cocaine, okay? Okay. I mean, first I'm in Jamaica, right?

And I used to make a-- I ain't allowed to make a thing out of the air. And I go to Cuba for a very close. Mm-hmm. I will have an hour.

Did you get to meet Fidel and Cuba or not? No, it's just that. It's not. So I make Cuba, right? I'm hanging out.

And so, God, me? Hey, you're my type, right? [ Laughter ] Yeah? You know what I think was wrong.

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You know what I think was wrong. You know what I think was wrong. You know what I think was wrong. I think I had a fight there. I do bottles.

I didn't get arrested enough. And I told people being me alone. Let me do it. I want damn. Anybody else?

If I don't buy all this stuff from you. But they got fucked up. They've been in the hospital. They've been in the hospital. They've been in the infirmary.

They've been in jail. What made you want to go to Russia?

“Because that was kind of like a like why, you know what I'm saying?”

I'm like, I don't even know. First of all, did they even at the time have? Black people in Russia. Yes. Did they really?

Because they never put them on like the websites or anything.

Like no, they came to Russia around 1909. Black people did. Yeah. You know. And then I met black.

You created and met black. Washington is really amazing. Why? Yeah. Because you probably wouldn't even think that would have happened, right?

No, so they started talking. Yeah. Wow. Dude, that's cool. That's one cool thing about traveling.

Sometimes, bro. This is a true thing. I might see somebody that looks like you and their mother might be black. And then father might be white or something. African or something.

Well, you just realize that like, oh, there's so many people out there. Like when I was in my little town, I thought heaven was only going to be people in our town, right? Let me tell you something about worshiping people in Ukraine and people, right? No, yes, I'm up there, right?

And so we got some callgirls to pull the callgirls, right? Some callgirls? Yeah, absolutely callgirls. They execute their ex-girls. They callgirls.

Yeah. And listen, I'm saying to myself, I want to talk to my friend, and I'm new to Robin. She talked to you because of Robin. She called me.

She talked to me. She did the comment. The comment.

Callgirls was speaking around seven languages.

Yeah. A callgirl in America can't even speak English. Yeah. Can't speak at home. Callgirls speak seven languages.

“I'm trying to think, how can I get this girl from here to America?”

Yeah. It's just going to be a Fortune 500 company. I'm telling you, she speaks eight languages herself. Been to the best school. She's a callgirl.

Dang. I'm like, whoa. And women here, they barely will even learn even one language, or even one and a half languages. They're not even going to learn how to cook.

Yeah. Dang. They don't have a cook. Dude, some women can barely use even emojis. I don't know if you could either.

Yeah. But still, you shouldn't have to do your Mike Tyson, man. No, I mean, a thin women here have been made. Women here have been made. I think you can't have a thin, nothing.

Yeah. I guess, yeah, I guess I don't realize how bad women have it. They've had tons of things. You see mostly women of them, women in Japan, because they took their husband.

No, no. The majority of the media, the hits can't stand abusive. Awesome. Damn. To Japan.

Yeah, man. Mm-hmm. Because there's so peaceful a lot of times. We had a Jackson, Jackson News, a substitute teacher. [LAUGHTER]

And he didn't even say anything to us, because he didn't want to bother us. That's how nice he was. We didn't learn anything. Yeah, he was.

Yeah, that's how scary he was. Well, we didn't learn anything for four days, because he was, he didn't even want to bother us. Um, you fought in Japan against it. Was it, who was it?

I didn't fight in Japan for this, right? But I thought Doug was in someone else. Tony Tubbs.

“Buster Douglas, that's when you won the championship?”

I lost the championship. Oh, damn, sorry. It won't be so bad back there for me.

Hey, you got forty million dollars.

Thirty five, yeah. Wow. You shit, though. Yes, I lost my round and even. [LAUGHTER]

Dude, that's so wild, bro. But before that fight, you weren't-- did you-- were you training as hard or were you just like living in their life? I was living in a life, but he fought a great fight. Yeah.

He fought a great fight. Dude, I remember we were like, I was living in Charleston, South Carolina at the time. And somebody bought the fight with a projector, and they projected it on the side of like a building

and everybody came downtown and watched it. Dude, it was awesome. It was a good time, man. It was like, uh, when you fought, it was like, it brought everybody. It was like watching the challenger blow up.

Everybody showed up, you know? [LAUGHTER] It challenged it, dude. Well, remember that? But I liked the whole toes in the whole day.

I said, over and over you. That's like those guys that wanted a water with those summer men, and it could bust. And it's like, oh, yeah. He took his son down.

He's got a son down there.

But they went down there in a fucking mad nugget. You know that's just going to happen, dude. Well, it said cutless on the side of it. It was a Delta 88. I'm like, you got in that bitch?

They just, like, I don't want it. I shouldn't say that. They're good. They got, they got smashed. They kind of didn't even feel it.

Ooh, they didn't feel it. That's tight, boy. [LAUGHTER] Because I hate even getting in a small shirt.

“You ever put a small shirt on, and you can't even get out of it?”

All right, like, you know, it's small. They don't have a pocket. [LAUGHTER] If you're my target-- How long is it?

Yeah. Dude, I went to a whole funeral, man. Did you really work? Yeah. Tell me about that.

It was pretty special, man. Like, well, there was a lot of things. It was like-- Look at that. Right outside of Tampa.

Right outside of Tampa. And, um, well, one thing I was interested in, Jim McMan was there, but nobody knew he was there. And then at one point, he came out, uh, like, uh-- Then could, man.

Yep. You ever met Jim, man? That's the closet. No. Jim McMan was a quarterback for the Chicago Bears.

Remember him? Oh, he's badass. Yeah, he wanted to ask you. Yeah, he had that molitude. He showed me his frickin' bottle one time, and--

[LAUGHTER] In our Palm Springs, that I can see, you know, for no reason. No, it was the reason. [LAUGHTER] I don't know what the reason.

He figured you out. [LAUGHTER] He figured you out. He figured you out. He didn't think of going back.

He was a great quarterback, great perception. [LAUGHTER] Going back for a set new. [LAUGHTER] But look at this receiver.

[LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] But look at this receiver. [LAUGHTER]

[LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] But anyway, you're right. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER]

Tell me about him showing you good bottle. Tell me about that. I know that appear. What? What caused it?

Well, nobody was expecting it. And it was just like a regular night. And, um-- [LAUGHTER] Have you ever found out what him before?

[LAUGHTER] I never met him before. And he was drinking beers. And he kept-- he was saving all the cans. I think because he was like-- he's like, um,

what's it called when you care about the nature when you're like-- Um, asshole. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE]

[LAUGHTER]

[LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] He was the one. [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE]

You saw him asshole. I saw him. It was dark. I mean, but-- [LAUGHTER]

Just make a man.

“You're welcome to come on and have a lawsuit.”

This man saw your asshole.

[LAUGHTER] Dude, why-- You said you saw an asshole. He made think differently. [LAUGHTER]

He made think that was a cheat. That wasn't an asshole. [LAUGHTER] I can't work. And now you're working for an attorney's office.

[LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] Was it a cheat or an asshole? I don't know, man. Tell you if you tricked me.

I just said I don't know. Well, I knew it was a little while ago. You're right. I'm not sure. It was shadowy out.

I remember we were above the pool. And it was nighttime. But anyway-- Yes, I'm open up from cheek. Right.

But everything in my mind, I guess, thought there was an asshole. What did he say? Come on, guys. No. Come on, guys.

[LAUGHTER] No. He wasn't saying anything like that. He was telling a joke about his ex-girlfriend or something. And then he said--

And then he said the punch on. I mean, he just kind of showed his bottle at the end. He's running back. He said, come run up in the net. Who's running back for his stuff?

Uh, who was the running back at the time? It wasn't Peyton. Was it no? Sayers? No.

Sayers was early. Oh. [INAUDIBLE] Was it? Wow.

Was it really? And 85 bears was Peyton? Run up in here, Big Tay. What? Come on.

Come on, Walter. Get over here, Walter. Come on, Matthew. I didn't mean to see it. [LAUGHTER]

But yeah, anyway. Let's move on.

But here's what I'm going to say is.

So Vince McMahon comes out there. Nobody knew he was at the funeral. And it was wild because they had guys like-- He had beef too.

“Yeah, well, I think over the years, they'd had a lot of issues, right?”

But a lot of my favorite wrestlers were there. And they were kind of broken down. You know, somewhere in wheelchairs and somewhere like-- Some people had irons of other guys who had passed on. They had their asses just at the bottom.

But Vince McMahon got up and he did like-- He played Hulk's music and he did all. Like a lot of his things, you know? And then he made like a speech and then he disappeared. But it was everything.

It was like-- you know, he was so much of my childhood. He was like one of the first person that I ever saw. Like in our neighborhood, like a lot of people didn't have anything. But when wrestling came on to felt like you had something. I don't know why, right?

Like a soap opera for kids. Yeah. You know, we know the story, the double tins, the cut-a-mob, the cut-a-mob, the cut-and-sleeve. They jump and go over the rope. They fucking yeah. Yeah, all of that.

But anyway, so that was like our-- We were like the soap opera, we know it was the story right. But we, as kids, we thought it-- I think you believe it's so real. Or 100%. It was so good.

So that was like one word of-- that was one of our heroes. So to go was just, yeah, I don't know, it was pretty special. And his son, like, gave a speech, it was nice, man. It was just-- but he didn't feel like he passed away because he's-- He's so much larger than what I was talking to.

Oh, my gosh. Yep. And I'll tell you this. When I met you downstairs, and I got to shake your hand, I was like, that's the-- That's the strongest person I'd ever, like, could be give us, like, a mini-hook.

I said, "That's-- I walked out and said, "That's the strongest person I've ever given a mini-hook to." The second strongest was Hulk Oguin. Really? Yep.

Man, he was a big star. He's just such a big star. You could never imagine how big he was.

Who was like a heroine like that, like, in the-- I'm going to know San Martino. Bruno San Martino? That was my hero, my God. Wow. He could be-- he's champion for 12 years.

Yeah. He could be that everybody. He was championless, and I was seven. Until I was, like, what? Seven. Just took, like, 20, almost. Yeah, champion.

He was a legend, man. Yeah. I've got to interview one of the Von Erics, one time Kevin Von Erics. I don't know if you remember it. Because they died before.

Yeah. Oh, I'm a lesson man. I'm a story, and I'm playing with me now. Yeah. It's been some questions about my story.

Um, I have read actually that you, like, study a lot of, like, like, you really enjoy, like, philosophy, like, a total story. Um, Alexander the Great.

“Um, who were some, like, famous warriors that you admire the most, kind of, in history?”

You know, some of my killies out of Zander, Hannibal. It was just L.C. there was just so many different concepts. You say, why do you want to do this? Because no, I, feminine want to be God. They believe if I control all this world.

If I control the world, I'm a God. And if that's in the day, they realize they were nothing. You know? But can you even relate to that? Like, did you ever have a time in your life with your,

because our ego is one of the scariest things, right? Um, you've only played with the thought of it. It's not sincere, not real. Yeah. Only when you're a God, if you, if you live forever, you're a model.

Now we have, we have authors that turn people in the God.

“You know, like, what do you mean by that?”

Um, some people would not be forgotten. And the Holy and Holy God did, did no, yeah, if we have to know these people. They're part of history. We can't know how history we don't know these people. That's what makes them garlic.

Oh, only if we know them.

You never get to know them unless you read about them.

They only in special places to know that identity. Did you, like, what was one of the toughest time you ever had with your own ego? Because, like, ego is just so scary, right? I don't know, my ego is so, um, horizontal. You know, I don't know how even to say, I just want to do better than before.

I don't think I have. You know, I do think I'm miles down to the grid sometimes. I think I have. And what are you talking about? Like, you do, like, you dressing up in the bedroom.

What you doing, low role playing? I don't know that ATG had. It says ATG on it. No, it's just that the way I conduct myself. He was a cancer too mild again.

And what is down for was with his moody. I learned that I'm not feeling my moods could throw my feelings. He was really moody. That was down for. What helped you, like, have discipline?

Like, say, say something like that. You notice it about yourself. What helped you create, like, some little disciplines, like that.

“On the best way, like, to receive discipline,”

is to do what you hate to do, but to do it like you love it. You do that, that's this. And is that something you really thought? That's all I've practiced my whole life, even now.

Did you always love fighting or did you hate fighting?

You know, I loved it. I loved the concept of fighting. I loved the fighters. I wanted the greatest fighters of the world and know my name. So, I would, you know, I would be on my knee, kiss their hands.

Kiss their feet. I loved them. I wish it to. I believe they touched me. They have to give me some magic on me because I was going to be around.

I carried their bags for them. I gave them money. I became a big company. I was going to give them money because they're lonely, broken down. And I had no money.

And I'm also not the mention. So I always gave them money to carry them. Gave it and took it away. If they got that dementia, you feel me to run it right back. But I just took them.

But paying homage, you're saying, I was, yeah, I had to pay homage. Because if I didn't see these guys, I wouldn't want to be who I am today. These guys inspired me to be fighter. I don't want to be nothing else. Even though I still have to be turned out.

I normally would turn out like these guys. Nothing begging. I still want to be a fighter. I don't care. I don't care.

I want to be in that kind of. I want to be in that fraternity. That's so interesting here. Yeah.

I never think about that.

It's like, yeah, like, I didn't just. We didn't just come up with the idea of ourselves all by ourselves. Like there was so much influence in people that did something before us that, like, let us, no matter what our job is or what our thing is that we like to do. That's interesting, man.

I forget about that sometimes. Yeah, sometimes I get, I don't get stuck there much. But sometimes it'll be like, oh, I'm like, yeah, I made me. And dear, do you ever think about who you are? How you really got here?

What do you really consist of? Is there something more than you? Are we going to see each other again another time? Are we living in parallel life?

“Is this right here going on somewhere else in life?”

Hmm. We have so much energy, we don't even know about ourselves. We know everything else, but we don't know nothing about us. Oh, yeah, dude. I didn't like.

Most of my life, I wasn't even, me. I was just, I was just like some survival mechanism that had started all. Does that make any sense to you? 100%. That's the first thing I had with self-proliferation start first.

And then once we get fit to wait, then we try to figure everything else out. Yeah. Yeah, man, it took forever. Like, it took me probably 30 years just to exhale, you know? I had this thing.

I had this thing, brother. And then it's scary because there's times I thought, man, like, I don't even know if I wanted to be like a funny guy. I might need to be wanting somebody to work that, like a, um, clothing, like a haberdasher, whatever, like a singer.

But that was the first thing that I could get people to like. Yeah, attention. Yeah, I see you. And so I could, like, I was just, I, there was, I don't have another choice. That formed everything I was, you know?

I wanted to be seeing so much other little baby and my mother and my friend, they both having fun drinking. I put my finger and drain on the cream on my mouth. And I wanted to start screaming, they both grabbed me and took me to the hospital. But I wanted that attention, such a young age.

Yeah. Oh, I love going to the hospital due because they had good food back then too. And they give you a tension, bro. Dude, they had a couple ladies will come in and care about. She was even a gay dude.

They slip in there every now and then. But I still, brother, did you make, man? Love, love is love, by the way.

I got a question of Mike, oh, did anybody ever,

because I just got back from Lexington, right? Lexington to get talking and they have the, the derby race there. And it's a beautiful place for this shot of all special for Netflix actually. That's coming out on like about two months. I'm excited about that.

But did anybody ever approach you to buy your salmon? And I mean that honestly. And I don't mean that in like a negative word. No, I mean, I gave it away free. I didn't mean what to buy it.

Whoa. Dude, we're giving our busted ass even away out here. You over there, dang. What? I had no idea they were selling their buying.

Dude, he, I've been building them right now. You can still, bro, long as you can still warm up a batch, bro. You can sell it at the merch stand over here. Well, if I was single, I would. I'll look, I, that's true.

If you might have an issue with it. Man, yeah.

Bro, I could give her a couple of ounces for you out back at his joint today, man.

I'm happy with my life is now. Yeah. What's a few things before we go, like, what's a few things that make you well, that bring you some of the most joy that you have today. And that can be something small, it could be anything.

Just my children don't have to live the life that I live.

“That's the only thing that I feel like care about.”

Is it? That's a lot of care. Yeah, because that's something. Listen, this might even make them strong, but I wouldn't take the risk to my children, too. Wait, say that one more time for me?

I think it might even make them strong, but it might kill them, too. Oh, they have to go through the same stuff. Yeah. I don't want to take good chance. I like the way they live in now.

Yeah. Well, you did it. Yeah, that's good. A lot of help. A lot of help.

Yeah.

Yeah, we don't do it alone.

Excuse me, no. No way. No way. You realize real quick. We have children.

You need help. Yeah. You need a lot of help. Um, thank you so much for joining us today. I might go and say that.

Um. You have, uh, one, you have one man show that's going to be tried. That's a live show that your wife wrote. Is that right? Yes, she did.

Wow.

“And did she have to get you to sign off to do some teamwork or what was it?”

Kind of for what man did. This is her work and I don't get money for it. What do you mean? I don't get it. Did she just say, or was it like, did you guys like, how do you put that together?

Because it's just interesting that she would write it? Is it just about? It's tough. It's tough. About dark shit.

You know, it worked out well. Yeah. Um. Thank you. I love when you hear the mid you started.

You got to go in it. And it's in the show. Oh, yeah. Save some of the, yeah, I'm going out. You know what? I'll come out to one.

Yeah, check it out. Yeah. I'll come out. I'll even come out. Say, you just listen to it.

I'll put on something little. Go at you. Not for you, for just, I'm just, I'm just, I'll just wear it. I'm about a little. I don't know what it's like.

I'm gonna say it in a small church. But you had that one man show that's going to be, and that's going to be a tour. And you have a, and you have your, um, documentary that's coming out on Netflix. Yes, I do. You do.

Um. I don't let me fucking think about it. I know it that far. I don't know. We learned a lot tonight, dude.

“Um, if, if, if customer could see you are now and see your whole life, right?”

If you could see your whole life, you know, and just get to spend some time with you today. Well, do you think, like, what would be something that you would like to, like a moment you would like to see with him or have him say? What do you think it would be something that he'd be impressed by? I would freak out if anybody in the world said I'm the best ever. What do you think? What do we think, guys?

[Applause] But no, when he would say, no, a couple would say, what do you think? What would he say, man? You didn't move your head enough. I think I would be a little fancy with the hitching.

[Laughter] I think I would be a little fancy with the hitching too. Yeah. Nothing got any seconds. It was a little fancy on that too.

Had to head up. Um, man, thank you so much for sharing your time with us today. For bringing your family here today, just for the opportunity that we get to see you. They all love you. I don't know what the fuck you are.

Yeah. My family knows you but they love me. My kids love you. I'm fucked up. You know the truth, dude?

I will show you too. But I love you, man.

Thank you so kindly, bro.

That's the truth. And, uh, thank you.

Ladies and gentlemen, Mike Tyson!

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“Now I'm just feeling all the breeze and I feel I'm feeling like these leaves I must be.”

Come and start.

But when I reach that ground, I'll share this piece of mine I found.

I can feel it. In my bones. But it's going to take.