#666 - Sen. John Kennedy

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He currently resides in St. Tamony Parish, which is the place that I'm from. This is episode 666 of this podcast, but we stand with the law.

He's got a book out called How to Test Negative for Stupid and why Washington never

will. It's an honor to spend time with one of the most humorous senators in our history, Mr. John Kennedy. But man, it's awesome, dude. What an honor to see you. And yeah, thank you, man.

You're quite welcome. Thank you, John, for representing our state. And yeah, and I appreciate that we've had a lot of good Louisiana's on here. We've had Laney Wilson on here, Mark Norman is a famous comedian. Justin Poorier, our UFC legend, Kevin Gates, Boosey, who's a rapper out of Baton Rouge,

the suicide boys for sure, Scrimm and Ruby, and you, so it's an honor man. What brings you over to Nashville, actually? I know you went to Vanderbilt, right? I did go to Vanderbilt, I'm Bill Haggardy is one of Tennessee senators, and they're having a big function and I asked me to speak, and I said, sure, I'll come, I'll just fly in.

And it just so happened we were doing your show, so it all worked out perfectly. Oh, that's awesome man. Yeah. So I'll go wherever we're going guys. I'll change into a suit and go over there and speak and, you know, cut it up.

Nashville's gotten so big, Theo. Has it changed? I mean, it's turning to a real, I'll say this, a tourist destiny. Yeah. I feel like even more probably than it was when you were here.

Yep. Well, it's all Nashville, even when I was here, was a banking and insurance center. Okay. Now it's so much more, it's healthcare, it's tech, it's for the wild Nashville, it was the fastest growing city for young people on the country.

And that's probably still in the top 10.

“I think it's still a good place to bomb a can of skull off of somebody too.”

You got it, man.

You know, that's never lost.

It's a very diverse city, yeah, and it's, you know, Knoxville used to be the big city and Knoxville's still pretty big, but now Nashville's kind of where the action. It's always been, country music, a lot of good comedians came out of Nashville. Yeah, that's a good one. If you want me to think about that Nate Bargaz, he's one.

Yep. Oh, I know that you grew up near where Jerry Flowers from and he's my favorite comedian. Yep. I grew up in a little town called Zachary. Yeah.

Did you ever get to see Jerry? I saw him on TV. Yeah. Never met him. Yeah.

Yeah. He was like an idling mind growing up. Funny. Oh, yeah, dude. He was one of the best.

He still is. I just saw an auction actually where their auction off his suit that he wore.

“And I think I'm going to get, I don't know if I'll ever wear a bad thing.”

I'm going to get it. Do you, do you still do comedy shows? Oh, yeah, for sure. I just finished a tour and then I'm just taking a break right now and it's been kind of an adjustment. You know, just adjusting to something new.

Um, when did you know you, you, you, you, you were funny. When you were young. Did you know it when you were young? I think, you know, I was over at LSU and I was sitting. I lived in a place called the Commons over there and it's an apartment complex over there.

And it's just walls. Really in college, you just get walls. There's not, you know, they have false sits and walls.

the neighbors and this, I was just cutting up and this one guy, Kevin, he's like, me, he should be a comedian and I don't know if I ever really thought about it. And then my buddy's daddy played a play Jerry Clara for me when we go on drives.

“And I think, um, I just kind of put it together for me at some point, you know.”

And I wanted a job where I, you could, like comedy was nice.

He's always got to get away.

It was like you got to perform here. You got to perform there. You, you do a lot of quits. You have a lot of, you have a huge sense of humor. Have, did you ever think about it or try it?

Yeah, I just, I, I just try to be myself there. Yeah. You know, I have this saying, I don't remember who first told me, but when I was going up to somebody told me to say, Kennedy, you always be yourself unless you suck. Yeah.

And if you suck, it's nothing we can do to help you. And I've never forgotten that, you know, that's a good line, man. And a lot of, a lot of folks in Washington think they need to pretend to be somebody else and be very aerodite and sound like a senator and it's okay for them, but it just doesn't work for me.

Yeah. Yeah. I find it too hot. I think I don't know. I, I don't know how it's hard for me to find something that's too fake.

It just hurts me kind of or something. Well, people, the American people can smell a phony man. Yeah. But being off a comedy has been nice because I've had it more time to watch. I've been watching some of the soccer you've been watching in the World Cup.

A little bit. Yeah. Did we, again, have a chance to get a game at all, do you know? No. I don't think we did.

At the competition, they're always so, it was so intense because they just felt like

big money. And I don't know that we even, we might have put in a bed from New Orleans. Yeah. It's expensive and you had to offer incentives, the World Cup's big deal. Yeah.

We're not, we're not big. That kind of football. We don't follow it much in America. But in the rest of the world, it is the thing, man. Oh, yeah.

It's been nice to see. I actually, I went to a game done in Wattelahar the other night. I loved a lot. Do you think it was so cool, man? Yeah.

And they treat us like so nice down there and just like, yeah, it was the first World Cup game that they'd ever had in Wattelahar that Mexico would play it in. And man, I got to go with my friend Gianni and Samantha, and it was this man. It's got as incredibly, unbelievably. It makes me feel so lazy, even just sitting there in the stand, it's like they're running

for so long. They're running for so long, it's start, it's stop, yeah. It's contact, so hot, it can be whatever they want.

“That's what I think the whole time I'm like, these bastards can go after this.”

They can eat whatever. And they can eat whatever they want, probably forever. They've done enough exercise. Yep. Like they're kind of grandfathered in to have, to have an abs.

I think, tennis is another sport that demands incredible endurance, tennis is for the

rich, though, I think, Gianni. Well, I remember when I was in school in England, I went over and bought standing room only tickets at Wimbledon. And I watched, I got to watch Arthur Ash on one of the outer courts who's as close as you and me.

But this guy was in such incredible, he wasn't muscular. You know, John Macken, if you met, I saw Jimmy Conner's one time. What muscular? Yeah. And they were from lower class backgrounds.

They just started early. Huh. Yeah, I've got to look at any, any urban, ketamine put a racket in their hand. That is one, that's a sport. They take over fast.

But it's discipline man, it's just repetition every day, every day, and you've got to be able to handle pressure. Yeah, I don't think I'd be good at it. You got to be able to handle the pressure. I don't know.

Because you're playing people that are as good as you are, and it becomes a mental game.

“Yeah, especially at that high level man, I think that's what people don't realize about”

a lot of these sports, like he's in, like, when you get to a high level, it's a matter of inches. It's a, it's a little bit of a moment. It's inches and it's mental. But if you even see these soccer games, you'll see the ball goes through and it's like there's

like a arm, a leg, a show, a head, so many things that are just, I mean, half a millimeter away from it, you know, every single shot. Yeah, I've enjoyed watching the World Cup. It's been good. It's been a nice time to have extra free time because that's going on.

You live in Madisonville? Yeah. Nice. You're near Mandiveville? Yeah.

I live right online between Madisonville and Mandiveville. Okay. Of course, it's, it's grown lots and she grew up there. Oh, yeah. I go back a good bit.

It's, well, you know, I mean, it's just, you can't really tell the difference now between Mandiveville, Madisonville, and Covington.

Yeah.

“My stepdad goes over there, a coffee house over there by friends right there on the”

lake.

I don't know where you're talking about, it's in an old house.

Yep. Beautiful. It's a real cottage. Yeah, something like that. I can't think of it.

I've had meetings there before. It's nice, man. I used to live right over a buddy of mine. His family, let me live in their basement over there. Which is living in a basement in Louisiana.

It's a, it's a, it's dangerous. It's good. It's good. It's good. You can find varments in there.

Oh, definitely, man. Your hair's clean in the morning. I know that. Some will run up and eat everything out of it. And, and snakes will crawl in there with you.

Some snakes to your wife and everything. Yes, I get you right about that. But she called me the other day. I was in the middle of hearing it. It was, she was hysterical.

And she showed me a picture that there was a six foot rat snake in my, in my, oh, my deck. And I said, just leave him alone. Yeah. You won't even. You know?

You're hurting. She'll walk all the neighbor. And they'll kill him. I said, don't do that. Yeah.

He's a rat snake.

“Even if even if you could pick him up, he might bite you.”

But it won't hurt. Yeah. Now, if you're a rat. If you're a rat, he'll eat you. Yeah.

You got a problem, man. You know, he will eat you and spit out the bones.

But they always got something over there.

I used to work over at friends on the lake. You know, with other friends? Yeah. So before they remodeled, it was just one story right down. It's not, it's half gluten now.

Oh, it's, yeah. It's, it's high in now. It's fancy. But I kept, when, I liked it the old way. There was another place called coffee's boiling pot.

Yep. I used to, they've under new ownership. And it's gotten a little more expensive. Yeah. But it's just grown so much.

Oh, yeah. And baddos. I used to go baddos. Baddos are still, baddos are still there. It can be a chocolate mold over there.

You got it? Oh, so much sugar in my face. I couldn't blink my name. I was for an hour. But I, you know, but it was a worth it, man.

But I worked at friends. And I will tell you this. You were a waiter. Oh, no. I was a bus boy forever.

Yeah.

I was never, I was never promoted.

That was my, yeah. And then I got to a point was like, I'm not, I'm not being a waiter even if you all want me to. You know, that was so my energy. But, um, but it was a good time over there. And when they would cook duck when the chef would cook duck every now and then they had duck on the menu.

Uh-huh. And back in the bus boy section where the ice machine was, they had these, uh, these, um, they had some, uh, missing baseboards down there. And these rack spoons would come out of the wall. So one of the bus boys had to sit back there with a, uh, broomstick and just beat them back.

And it literally just beat them back into the wall where they were cooking. I know. We had, they, the raccoons loved duck. We, we had an outdoor cat for a while. Oh, yeah.

While, but you know, but I would, would bring cat food out there. And it was always gone so quick. And finally, I went out there one night. You just kind of hit a raccoon was coming out of the woods. Just snarfing that stuff.

It's pretending to be a cat. We've got raccoons. I back up towards. We've got raccoons dear. Um, I wanted one out one night to, to take out the garbage, open up the top.

A possum. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh.

Yeah. The act like it's theirs. Yeah. Exactly. Now, raccoons are kind of cute possums off.

Yeah. Those things. We'll see across a bit of a cat tune every now and then you'll see them. Couple of them start cross pollinating out there. If they, if they, uh, if the humidity gets high enough, you'll see some of them.

And we'll start mixing. We see. We see. As you will know, we've got everything. Oh yeah.

We've got alligator. We've got more alligators. Uh, we've got people now. Is that true? Yeah.

You're lying. No, I'm not. It's just, we, twenty five years ago, they were getting. And watch the Democrats try to get them to register to vote. Yep.

If they, wouldn't surprise me. Wouldn't surprise me. Sorry to interrupt you. But I was going to forget that joke if I didn't say it. Yes, Louisiana is more alligators than people.

Dear God, get the kids away from the river. But tourists love them because they will, these boat tour guides go out and they feed them. And so when, when they see the, the, the boat, they come immediately. And the tourists just see it up.

They think they're tank. They're not. It's perversion to me, brother. I don't mess with the devil. And I don't mess with his pets.

That's one way. That's how I operate. I don't mess with those types of things. That's for sure. But yeah, it's nice for, it's nice to be here nice to just have a,

a taste at home in the building, man. You started working in politics. I know you were trained. Are you taping now? Yeah.

Oh, yeah, fine. I just didn't know. Oh, yes, sir. Sorry. Yes, sir.

We are. Senator John Kennedy. Thank you.

“And you're not related to Bobby Kennedy or any of those candidates, right?”

Well, if I am, I'm the poor side of the fan. Okay. I don't think I am. Yeah. My, my dad was from Oklahoma.

And my mom was from Central Louisiana. How did they meet? How your parents meet?

Uh, eight brothers and sisters.

Wow. Uh, he left home. Hard for me to believe today. But when he was 14.

“To go to another town that had a high school.”

He lived with relatives. He worked as a janitor. Uh, at night to pay his way. Um, he went to university of Oklahoma. Uh, you just want the nanny champion said that.

That's right. Let's go. Uh, he, uh, works his way through school. Got a degree in patrol and engineer. Came to Louisiana to work in the oil fields and met my mom.

Mm-hm. And, uh, he, he went away for four years. He was in more work too. Um, but I, I, my dad was my hero, man. Was he?

Yeah, he really was. Was his name? Preston Kennedy. Preston Kennedy. Well, I name my son after my dad used to tell me Theo.

He would say, son, when I was going up. I have three brothers.

He'd say, son, you'll never understand love to you.

Have a child. And I'd say, I come on dad, you know. He'd say, no. It's not like the love of a, of a spouse or a sibling or a girlfriend. And until you have children, you don't know that.

But he was right. I named my son after Preston. Mm-hm. And he's a good kid. There was a time growing up.

“When I, I figured my son was either going to go into.”

Concert promotion or a minimum security prison. I wasn't sure. But, but he, he, he, he, he's a, he's a good kid. There's a picture of my dad, huh? Yep.

Uh, it's awesome. That's my great dad. There you go, Preston. Yeah. And the other Preston, huh?

Yep. Hey, man. Yep. That's a great picture. I've got that somewhere.

That was, that was my younger days. That's what my dad was still alive. Oh, bless him, man. We were, he was, we were raised in Zachary. Oh, yeah.

About 3,000 people. Mm-hm. And that's close to our liberty. It's, it's sort of coast of liberty. It's close.

It, liberty is about 40 miles away. It's close to Baton Rouge. Okay, yeah. Um, yeah. I knew where it is now.

Now, when I grew up in Zachary's big now, it was like 15, 20,000. There were like 3,000 people. Oh, yeah. And it was really a small town. And I like, people say, what's a small town like?

And, and I tell them the truth, it's everybody knows your business. Everybody knows who's check is good and who's husband is. Everybody knows your, but I would go back. Some people hated high school. I loved it.

Yeah. Happiest day up. A high school? Yeah. Oh, yeah, because I don't think, I don't think people, you don't realize that age

that you will never be in a place where you're kind of as protected like in an incubator

Yep. And have all of everyone you know will be around. Every day, they show up even though they're tired or whatever. They're miserable. They didn't do their homework or whatever.

And they all like the same girl. It doesn't matter. Everybody you know will show. And that never happens again. Nope.

I had a hundred people in my graduate class. Hmm. We were the booking. That's B booking Broncos. Okay.

And I cared about two things. I cared about my studies because of my parents. But I cared more about basketball and I cared about cheerleaders. And I wouldn't more the damnity than one. But I had a lot of fun trying.

And you don't, but I talked to people all the time. Oh, I didn't know I could go. Man, I'd go back and check. Oh, God. Well, they busted some guy.

They had some guy had a gross deficiency. And he, uh, or just the Lord didn't really let him grow up. He was just a Simon Birch of a man, you know. And, uh, and they bust. And he was like 31.

And he went back to, uh, middle school or something. And he was, they called him on like two weeks in a school. It was cool. One of the teachers saw him caching a check over the weekend. And he busted him.

This is a few years ago in Indiana. They caught a guy. But, and people were like, that's messed up. I said, look, I don't blame the guy. Well, you grew up in Band of Vill and Coventy.

And it was probably small, then. Oh, man. It's big now. But coming to him was perfect, man. I remember we get paddle by the principal.

Oh, yeah. Bill Brady, Bill Brady was our principal. And he's the best. I saw him a couple years ago at, um, at a buddy's funeral boy. He can't do that anymore.

No, I, I, we had it.

“Did you have like a milk delivery person to start with?”

No. I, I remember that. I remember. I never forget. I, I would have a civics class.

And my basketball coach was my teacher. And there was this one guy I won't use his name because he's front of my, he was a great football player. And, uh, he was having trouble with the exam.

He helped me with this exam. We're sitting next to each other. And I'll never forget. Well, okay. You know, I, he'd point to an answer.

He's a multiple choice. I go on. I point to another. I go on. And the coach called me called me.

Oh, come here.

“And you just, you, you, you've, you've been over.”

And he hits you with that paddle with holes in it. And you, you don't want to, you don't want to cry. It hurts like hell. We don't want to make any noise. He's just, yeah.

Like any noise. He's just, then, then you're on cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I learned my lesson all the way, man. Here we go right here. It said, uh, Perry's Berg police arrested a labored, arrested labored, C.A.R. on Monday.

Uh-huh. That's a man. Um, a 24 year old suspect was enrolled in high school. He's usually posing as a teenage boy for more than a year and a half. Really?

That's pretty wild. A 10 in Perry's Berg high school between January 11th, 2024 and May 14th, 2025. Shout out to that young fellow trying to get an education. Good for you. I guess.

Yeah. I guess we don't know. We don't know why we went back.

“Now, if you went back to finish up a couple of courses.”

Yeah. If that's one thing, but you didn't, you just. Might want to delve in the background. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And I also will notice in in that photo. I think he wasn't a prison outfit. So yeah. So I may have been more to the story.

Um, you started as treasure and Louisiana. Yeah. My first job. My first job. I worked for a governor from the form governor of the name.

Buddy, rumour. Oh, did you really work for Buddy? And, um, then, uh, Buddy got beat. And I had left him to run for attorney general.

And I lost. I came in third. My next job was another reform governor named Mike Foster. I had become friends with him. And he won.

And he asked me to come run basically the tax department.

Mm-hmm. And I did that for a while. And then I ran for treasure. And I was treasure for 17 years before I came to the Senate. Wow.

Um, enjoyed it. It was a lot about, uh, uh, finance. A lot about bond issues, uh, underwriting, uh, I managed all the state money. Uh, it was about four billion then.

That's not a lot of money to a lot of people. But from who's yelling. It's a lot. Yeah. I enjoyed it.

Yeah. I like being a senator. But I enjoyed being a state treasure. What is a treasure or do? So just so we know.

So we're clear on it. Well, when you're in the state treasure. Just as you'd expect, you're in charge of the state's money. States borrow money to build roads or to build prisons or build schools. And you issue bonds.

And you hire investment bankers. Usually out of New York.

Not always in bond lawyers.

I was in charge of that. You have to be very careful. The rules, uh, uh, security rules. I'll, you have to disclose everything. Uh, we had idle cash.

Uh, oh, oh, not that ain't good in Louisiana. Oh, no. That go missing quick. Uh, but cash comes in and goes out quickly. But I was in charge of investing it in short-term instruments.

Sometimes just a day or two. Okay. But when you really, when you've got a cash flow that's in the bins of dollars. It's just investing it overnight. You can pick up a lot of money if you do it repeatedly.

We had a lot of trust funds. I invested, uh, I invested those. Uh, I spent a lot of time working with the legislature. On ideas about how to make government more efficient. Save money.

Um, I was in charge of the state's unclaimed property program. Were you really, dude? Yeah.

“Dude, I think you all sent me a thing one time.”

Yeah. I left. I think I had 200 bucks on something. Yeah. Thank you.

Yep. We, uh, thank you, dude. I, uh, when a business has your money and can't find you. They can't keep it. They've got to turn it over to the state.

And I was in charge of, unless it's the federal government. They're a lot of people. One of the federal governments different. Yeah. They're a lot of keep everything.

But I was in charge of getting the money back to people. Okay. And the most money I ever gave back to, uh, to a lady. Yeah. Man, it was great.

She was a retired school teacher in New Orleans. Mm-hm. It was from her late husband's long story. But she didn't know about the money. They were invested in stocks and they grew and grew.

I gave her a check for one million, 26,000.

Yeah, man. It's cold. And did you walk over there and do it? You mean, I called her. And told her how we got it.

She didn't have any children.

And so that's where my office was.

So she came in. And she cried. Talked about her late husband. I gave her the money. She said, I'm going to use it to help people.

I don't have any children. But when I went, walked her outside to, to escort her out. Like, ten nieces and nephews. Just waiting there. And I knew that money was going to get sped.

Get that check, boy. Oh, when that check comes in Louisiana, when that check comes, man. It's getting sped. But I'm glad we got some of your money. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Thank you, man. I needed at the time, too.

You know, so I appreciate that.

When you got a job.

“And then center, how long you've been working as a senator for?”

Ten years. Okay. It's some of the most interesting people I've ever been around. Yeah. Right now.

It's not pretty to watch. Yeah. Right now Congress kind of looks like a breach birth. You know what I mean about that. Well, three wheels stop shopping cart.

We're not getting along. Yeah. It's hard to reach consensus. We'll get through it. But as we get closer to the midterm elections.

There, it just gets more and more and more political. I think we're going to have another shutdown. I sent on their preparations committee and we're trying to put together a budget. But we're not getting any cooperation. What does the appropriation committee, what does that mean?

That means I'm in charge of not just me, but others. I'm in charge of drafting the federal governments budget.

“And my part of it is what's called energy and water development.”

I'm in charge of the nuclear program. I'm in charge of, well, my subcommittees. Okay. I'm in charge of the Department of Energy. I'm in charge of the Army Corps of Engineers.

And we put together the budget. But you've got to get 60 votes to pass anything in the Senate. So I've got to work with my democratic colleagues. And that sometimes it's easy. Sometimes it's not the closer we send it to a shimmer.

I think it's going to shed. He's going to refuse to let us do a budget. I'm really going to shut down, God. That guy seems like a crook. Well, I mean, I mean, I mean, that's it.

And I mean, that's it. I don't hate anybody. I don't. And when I say my prayers. One of the things I ask God for don't want me hate.

And it's easy to start hating and wash. And I refuse to hate.

“And that's one of the many things I ask God for.”

And I know Chuck well. We went to China together. Matt with President Xi. We don't agree on much. And Chuck's entitled is opinion.

But as I tell him all the time. You know, he's he's he's how can I explain. He's he's very animated. Yeah. He's like a five year old in a Batman costume.

You know, he just won't tell him chill out. Yeah. But he hates President Trump. Doesn't like President Trump. He thinks by creating chaos.

It'll help his side in the midterm elections. And I fully expect him to withhold the budget. The votes from the budget and shut down government. And that would be. Hope I'm wrong from wrong.

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“Yep, I think he's leaving the Republican party.”

Long time conservative commentator Tucker Carlson said on the podcast that there's no chance I would support the Republican party. ahead of the November midterm elections. Not going to support the Democratic party Carlson is quick to add. I don't know what I'm going to do. Carlson supported Trump in 2024.

Did he say why? They're making decisions on the basis of other criteria. What's best for this company, what's best for Israel? Oh, that's right.

He said he felt like it was becoming Israel first party and not America first.

That's a big person to not have support from. You know, because he's been a big supporter of the Republican party for a while. I've been a consistent defender.

“He says for 35 years of the Republican party.”

I mean, very consistent defender, but there's no defending this. He said, so no, I'm out. What do you, what's your response to that? Tucker, he is a very, very smart. He's very articulate.

He is falling out with President Trump and with those of us in the Senate who support Israel. He primarily fell out with President Trump over the conflict in Iran. Now, I've been very supportive of the President on the conflict in Iran. I don't want America to be the world's policemen, but I don't want Xi Jinping and China, or the IOTL and Iran, or Vladimir Putin and Russia to be the world's policemen either.

And these are hard men. They understand one thing, though. Strength.

“If you, if you turn to the other cheek to these people, they'll just stab you in the neck.”

Now, what proof of that is there? You just look at their actions. Iran is the world's foremost exporter of terrorism. Putin, who now, of course, runs Russia, wants to dominate Eastern and Central Europe, which is President Trump's, has gotten Europe to start spending more money on defense,

but we've always had to defend him.

I can tell you what President, Michelle Presti, Xi. He is very clear. He thinks that China is ascending. He thinks America is into crime. He thinks while they're building ships in nuclear weapons.

He thinks all we do in America is sit around and debate whether a man can breastfeed. And he is Putin and I told him Iran are working together. And China's goal is to dominate the Indo-Pacific, to be free to roam and sub-Saharan Africa, and South America. He wants to dominate the Arctic.

He wants to dominate space. But does he show those things like that? Oh, yes. Okay. Absolutely.

I mean, China is supporting Iran right now. China is supporting Russia and more in Ukraine. There's no question. China buys all of Putin's oil. We sanction a lot of their oil when Putin invaded Ukraine.

So he can't sell it because oil was traded in dollars. He sells it to China. Look, I don't hate anybody. And the Chinese people to the Communist Party in China will let you interact with them are lovely people. But they are determined.

And deep down, the Iranians are worse.

But deep down, they want to kill us and hurt us the entire time we're dying. Now, that's my point of view. Tucker will have a different point of view. Yeah. He thinks that we're too close to Israel. I think a lot of people, from people that I see all the time,

that's the number one thing that people say. They think we're too close to a country that's created a genocide against Palestine. And then is like in conflict with these other people around. It seems like there's like kind of the bullies of the area. You know, it's like it feels like they're the terrorist organization.

“That's what it seems like to a lot of people.”

And a lot of people believe that. I'll give you another point of view.

The real problem in the Middle East, since forever, since God was a baby,

the real problem in the Middle East is Iran. And Iran wants to dominate it. And Iran funds Hezbollah and Hamas. Israel is surrounded by people that want to kill them. Syria is different today, but Syria has bought was in control of Lebanon.

Hamas and arm of Iran was in control of the Gaza Strip. Hamas attacked Israel. And the Israelis fight back. And they took over the Gaza Strip. And yes, a lot of Palestinians got hurt.

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And it's been severe in deaths, but it is primarily the fault. I'm not saying Israel is blameless. Look, war is ugly. - Yeah, but it's war, but it is war. - You think it's war?

- It is war. - They just had an article yesterday that came out from the UN. If you could find that, it was about.

“They done like a deep dive on the killing of children, right?”

And some of the massacring, and really massacring of children, as you will continue to commit, as you notice how to trust the country by deliberately targeting Palestinian children, UN Independent Commission Fines. Even after the October 20, 25 ceasefire, children continue to be killed and seriously injured

with continued disregard by Israel for the ceasefire and for the protection. Let me see what else here. Here are some findings of the Commission. Israel has killed 20,000 children and injured 44,000 more since October 7, 2023. - Let me see, Palestinian children have been arrested and subjected to torture

and other severe forms of mistreatment and Israeli prisons. This is all part of the United Nations.

- Well, first, I wouldn't believe it if it came from the UN.

- Oh, really? Do you feel like they're not a symbol? - They're not a symbol. - They're not a symbol. - They're not a objective, okay?

- They're not a objective. - Number two, it's the... - Number two, and I know children got killed. And it breaks your heart. How much kills children, too?

So does his brother, so does Iran.

“Do you think the eye tone doesn't care about the Iranian people?”

The Persians are some of the most talented people in history. When they disagree with the eye tone, they hang. They hang. And I think I don't speak from this to Carlson, but he says it's not our business.

And I guess to some extent he's right, but I'll tell you what is our business. He's letting them get a nuclear weapon. Because if they get a nuclear weapon, these people are like Charlie Manson.

They're crazy. I mean, there's really crazy is rare. These people, though, are with the Iranian leadership, it's commonplace. If they get a nuclear weapon, they will use it.

Now, just don't Israel, but on Europe and on us. And even if they don't once they get a nuclear weapon, you won't have other countries. Japan, South Korea, other countries, Saudi Arabia,

get nuclear weapons, as well. And the more people they have nuclear weapons, more likely you are to have war. But Tucker would probably have another point of view. But I really like Tucker.

I think he's really smart. Oh yeah, I think Tucker's a neat guy. I mean, from what I know about him, he seems like,

I believe that he, I don't know. Yeah, mine are actually not the most,

have always been good, you know?

It's just that when they kill the reporters, who are trying to get honest information, they're killing reporters, you know? - I don't think. - They had a American-- - I don't think it was intentional,

but they had one that they shot directly in the face and then at her funeral, they attacked the people who were carrying her. Can you find her name? We just talked about her last night.

- I'm sorry to go in all this, I'm not sure. But they, at her funeral, they attacked, they even attacked the people who were giving her funeral. Shireen Abu Clé was a prominent Palestinian American journalist who worked as a reporter for 25 years

for Al Jazeera.

Of course, she was killed by his really forces

while wearing a blue press fast and covering a raid and the gin and on the gin of-- - Obviously, that's terrible.

“- Yeah, but here's what you have to understand”

about the war raid, and I don't know why this is. If I make it to heaven, I'm gonna ask God. But there's some people out there in the world. They're not sick, they're not mixed up. It's not that their mama and daddy didn't love them enough.

They just got by cars. - Yeah. - And some of them run countries. North Korea, Russia, China. - But what are those countries actively doing right now?

Like BB Netanyahu and the Israeli government is actively, well, from a lot of people believe, and I believe a lot of voters believe that they're actively committing a, have committed a genocide in Palestine, and then they've gone into Beirut

to Lebanon to Iran, you don't believe they are. - I don't believe that. - I believe that Hamas, Dominate, which is an arm of Iran, Hamas dominated Gaza, Hamas attacked Israel, Hamas was hiding behind

“the Palestinian civilians, all of them, all of them.”

If you didn't obey if the Palestinian civilians didn't obey Hamas, they would kill him. Okay, Hamas was in complete control. Israel attacked. When Israel attacked Hamas, many civilians got killed

and it was regrettable, but what are you gonna do? Iran was hiding physically hiding behind them. While that happened, it has blah from Lebanon, funded by Iran, attacked Israel. And all Israel has done its part back.

- Yeah. - Now, I'm not saying that in the fog of war, there haven't been innocent people, they have been, and it's terrible. But it's not like Israel is the bad guy

and Hamas and Hasbah and Iran are the good guys 'cause they're not. And these weakness invites the wolves. I wish it weren't like that. I wish it weren't.

I wish you could sit down and reason with them. But it's like talking to Charlie Manson. He was Stonecoe crazy. And these people believe, if you don't accept their religion,

“their form of Islam, then you should die.”

And they think they're all omission from God. Now, look, I think the Islam is, if you wanna be, - You think that's true. And you would know it, I mean, I don't have it. - I think of this.

- I have experience in Islam, Hindu, you can, your religion is your business. In America, we have freedom of religion. But if my religion told me that I had to kill a bunch of other human beings

to advance my religion's call, if Christianity taught that, I couldn't be a Christian. - Yeah, that would be heartbreaking. - Yeah. But they really believed that.

- And how do we know that? - Because they've done it. What they've done, what they did in October, was the October 7th. They raided, they raped.

They cut off Israeli people's heads. They kidnapped them. What they've done to American troops and Lebanon. It's widely known. Look at what they did.

They started shooting the Saudis and the UAE. That's not the good people of Iran. That's their leadership. They're religious allies. - And didn't we get, didn't we take their eye

to hold out?

- We took the first one out.

They were pledging with his son, but he's unhiding.

And that's nepotism.

I mean, we got to call that way, it is.

“- Well, nobody wants, nobody really wants to,”

nobody wants the job, not nobody wants the job, man. Our military is the greatest military in all of humanity. - Amen to that, dude. - It's just extraordinary. - We're so lucky, man.

I mean, we're just lucky to be in a place where we can at least like think and try and explore ideas and try and learn. And even if we don't know stuff, we can try our best. But wasn't there some evidence

that Hamas was funded by Israel, though, like it was back, Channel Two Katars, and can you look that up? - Qatar has funneled money to Hamas before. - They're a middle man.

- Nah, I'll be shocked.

I mean, I stood money from Israel.

- No, I don't believe that. - I just don't believe that.

“- I know there are stories, but I just don't believe that”

because I've been to Israel, I've talked to Israeli people. They don't wanna be at war, but are they a war with everyone that it feels like a war? - Well, they're at war with Hezbollah to the north because Hezbollah keeps shooting missiles at them

and digging tunnels and they're terrorists. And they're at war with Hamas because Hamas attacked them and until they took out their missiles, kept shooting missiles. And they're at war with Iran

because Iran is behind all of it. And I wish we didn't have to do any of this honest to God. I've talked to President Trump about it.

He didn't want to be in conflict with Iran,

but we cannot let them have a nuclear weapon. We cannot. These people are stone, coal, crazy. - Yeah, I guess it's tough to say. I think when you see videos and stuff online,

it makes you just see like, I don't know. It just makes your heart hurt like, there was a report the other day in that UN report that there was like a 14 year old kid who they shot and then they just stood around

and watched him bleed to death. And when his mother tried to come to him, they just like would shoot at her and then these soldiers just stood around and watched him bleed to death

and it's just kind of hard work. - Oh, no, no, it all breaks your heart.

“And that's why you don't want to have to go to war,”

but put yourself in the President's shoes. Our intelligence, his what our intelligence showed and I've seen it. It's classified, but I've seen it. But I can give you the general outline.

Our intelligence showed that Iran was building up its missile capacity, ballistic and cruise. And they were going to compile so many missiles and drones that they were going to turn to America and Israel and say we're restarting our nuclear weapons program.

And if you try to stop us, we're going to destroy the rest of the Middle East and by the way, our missiles can now reach London and Paris, Paris, and Germany. - And you saw reports at that.

- I've seen them tell us, and President Trump was faced, well, do I let them continue? He had already bombed their nuclear, some of their nuclear facilities, but he was faced with the decision,

do I let them get to the point where they have so many missiles and drones, ballistic and cruise that they could destroy the Middle East, that they could hit London, that they might even be able to hit the United States,

or do I go in to stop them? And he did. - Right. - And we haven't destroyed all of their missiles. But if you go to Iran today,

they're whole swaths of Iran there, they'll look like something out of mad, Max Fuller. I mean, we destroyed the public sector, the private, some big portions of the private sector, didn't want to do it, it'll take them 20 years to recover.

I mean, our military, I'm not going to bubble up it. They went in and our military ate them and spit out the bones. - Yeah, yeah. - And they are not right now a nuclear threat,

but they still have the centrifuses to make to take their fish out of material and make it a make a warhead. - Yeah, I didn't know that. I didn't know that you had seen the intel in that. - We have a basement, an underground room in the Senate.

There's we call it the skiff.

You leave all your electronics outside.

“And I've been brief all of this up by Rubio”

a head chef, a head chef, a Rubio. The joint chiefs, chairman of the joint chiefs. - And do you trust those guys? - Absolutely, yeah. - Absolutely, we John Radcliffe from the CIA.

I trust every single one of them. - Hey, man, okay, yeah. Yeah, I don't, yeah, I'm not in the space. So it's like, you know, it's from our perspective, this is a regular person.

You just see all of this stuff and it's so, it seems like so one way, it seems like you were saying like you feel like the truth comes through and you know what it is, right? Like we were saying in the beginning,

or whatever, like what we see and what we see and perceive is, okay, this is real

or this is a earnest or whatever, you know?

It's like that's the way that so a lot of it seems. - Well, let me get this real quick before you go and start to interrupt you. This is here in a controversial deal is really his government under Benjamin yet.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, who supported Qatar's payments to Hamas for many years and hope that it would turn Hamas into an effective counterweight to the Palestinian Authority and prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state. So maybe there was some funding,

but it wasn't clear on what it was forward. - Well, if they gave, I don't, there's a footnote there. I don't know the authority for that. - Yeah, I'm not sure if they gave aid through Qatar to try to help the people of Gaza

so they wouldn't, they wouldn't join up with Hamas. That's a different thing from there. - Yeah, supporting Hamas. - Hamas, yeah. - And what did you look up there?

Just, I'm gonna look it up one more time.

“Can you put Israel's support, did Israel support Hamas?”

Can you just put that question? Let me see, Israel did not directly create Hamas but from the late 1970s to the 1990s this really government provided covert support and funding to this law-mist movement

that preceded it. This strategy was used to counterbalance secular Palestinian nationalist groups like the Palestine. So they may have inadvertently supported it by trying to support something else, I guess.

- Hamas is a spin-off. - Got it. - The Palestine, Palestinian, be a low, Palestine, Palestine, Liberation Organization. But once Hamas spun off,

they got all their financial support from Iran. I've got it. - Got it. - Got it. - And without Iran priding the money

neither Hamas nor his block could exist and they are terrorists. - Understood. Did Iran fund Hamas? Let's look that up then.

And thanks for discussing it with me. - Sure. - Yes, Iran has funded. - Yes, Iran has funded, armed and trained Hamas for decades.

“Tehran considers the group a key part of its axis”

of resistance and provides 10 to millions of dollars annually to support its military and operational capabilities. - And look, I'm not saying Israel is perfect. I'm not saying that, okay. None of us is perfect, but look at it this way.

- Yeah. - There are certain areas you could walk down if you walk down it to a clock in the morning and Nashville, I'd say. There are people there that would hurt you.

- Yeah. - Now, I don't know why, I gotta say, if I make it to heaven, I'm gonna ask why people want to hurt other people, but they do.

And that's the situation that Israel's in. - Yeah. - I'll give you an example, a more concrete example. My wife hates guns, okay? I respect that.

But I own guns. Now, do I hate everybody else? - No, I believe love is the answer. But I don't want to handgun just in case. - Amen.

- 'Cause I know there are people out there. And if they try to hurt me or my family, I'm gonna defend myself and my family. - Yeah. - And that's, I wish the world weren't like that.

But it is. - Yeah.

- And there's some very bad powerful countries

that they hate America. They just hate us, they do. And you can't reach them through diplomacy, it doesn't mean you shouldn't talk to them. But with a guy, I've looked at,

look President Xi in the eye, okay? I met this guy. With with hard men like President Xi, are they out to or are Putin and Russia? Weatness invites the wolves and trying,

getting too close to them. It's like hand feeding a shark.

We shouldn't want.

“I think President Trump has understood that.”

President Trump and I have our differences.

We have two different styles, okay? President Trump exists loudly. I told him one time. He said, "The Kennedy, how you like my tweets?" I said, "Mr. President, tweeting a little bit less

"would not cause brain cancer." He said, "What, you don't like my tweets?" I said, "No, I didn't say that." I said, "I don't like a stake every now and then. "I just don't like to eat eight of them one time."

And I said, "You're the President of the United States." And he just says no filter. He grows anxious when he has an unexpressed thought. But he's the President and I'm not. And that makes a lot of people mad.

I've known him for 10 years. I've got his cell phone there in my briefcase. He's a cell number. If I called him, he called me right back. I don't go hang around the White House.

But we deal with each other straight up and we agree. We agree, we agree, we disagree, we disagree. - Amen. - And you've had him on your show. You've met him.

- Yeah, you know, he's busy guy. - He's a, he exists loudly. He's aggressively unpredictable. - He's a busy guy, man. - Yeah, that's one thing I just remember

from my interaction with him was that he's a busy guy. - He's not as cool as Jeff Bridges, but he's pretty cool.

“You know who you need to have, my two favorite actors.”

Not my, well, two of my favorite actors. Jeff Bridges and Denzel Washington. Denzel Washington came to see me one time, really? - It was so cool. He was lobbying 'cause I'm on the preparations committee

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- And I, Jeff Bridges, I too. - Yeah, that'll be amazing to get to have him. Yeah, I mean, as soon as I can't even believe it, it's some of the people you get to talk to and stuff like that

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That's QUO.com/theo, let's hog in QUO. Do you think that America will support a, like a pro Israel candidate like in the next election? Like Trump has been pretty pro Israel overall. Do you think that will affect how they vote

in the next election? Yeah, it's gonna be a big issue. My democratic French. Not all of them. But the wing of what I call the loon wing

of the democratic party that's in control, they hate Israel. And they support, they support the Palestinians. Well, they hate the government, not the people, right? No, we're not talking about the government.

I don't want to believe they hate the people. Okay, yeah. But they hate the, that's fair, that's a good point. I hate the government. Yeah, and that points across the board

in this conversation. That's a fair point. But they support Hamas, I mean, I'm sorry.

“They just do, that's why I call them loon wing of the party.”

And that will be a big issue within the democratic primaries. But there are a lot of Republicans that think we're too close to Israel. Well, I mean, that's what's so interesting about talkers. Talkers want?

I'm saying that 'cause Tucker has one of the top 10 podcasts and platforms in America. Yeah. So for that, for him to be, for that to be his direction, and that to be how he feels.

And I mean, really delicious. Yeah. And I'm sure a lot of people feel exactly like he does, you know? So that's why I'm wondering, do you think

I can Israel first, politician, could win?

Could win? Could lose? Well, this is a big wide open diverse country for both Republicans and Democrats. Yeah. And in our country, you can believe what you want

and say what you think. And I'm supporting this dialectic of ideas where ideas compete. Yeah, that has to have it. Yep.

And that's why God made elections. But I want people down to, and my people is the out of, but people in America don't know where I stand. Yeah. And I have a lot of admiration for Israel.

Their tough, their tough is a boot. They fight back against people that try to kill him. Yeah.

“Now, do I want a better life for the Palestinians, absolutely?”

And I remember on the President Clinton, he offered the Palestinians a deal to give them their own country a big chunk of the West Bank, give them Gaza, they would have their own country. They said no, their leadership said no.

Let's bring that up. Just so I know that that's the candidate for the campaign. David Summit. Yeah. Yeah, President Bill Clinton's primary effort

to help Palestine get its own country culminated in the Clinton parameters of December 2000. This was an ambitious proposal for a two state solution that followed the failed campaign, David Summit. And the political leadership of Palestine said no.

Offered Palestine control over 94 to 95% of the West Bank, along with the equivalent of an additional one of 3% of land be a territorial swaps. And what happened? Oh, this was the Oslo Accords?

The Oslo Accords were next. OK. They were after Camp David.

Ultimately, a final deal was never solidified.

The Clinton proposals and subsequent Tauba Summit negotiations brought the sides closer than ever before. Both sides voiced reservations and the deal collapsed at the end of Clinton's term.

Yes, or Arafat, Arafat was in charge of the PMO. He was the leader of the Palestinians. I think if you put it to a vote of the Palestinian people, they would have said, David would have taken it.

“But I didn't know that's why I'm trying to get to that.”

Arafat turned it down. OK. And he was head of the PMO, the political organization for all of the Palestinians. But if I've always believed, Verifat had put it to a vote

of the Palestinian people, they would have accepted. But Bill Clinton came, that close. What says here, the Israeli resident of Israeli cabinet conditionally accepted the parameters, but issued a 20 page letter outlining reservations,

regarding security. Israeli Trump out? And borders, yeah. Israeli would have taken it. I'll tell you.

I'm just saying that this is what this says. Yeah. And then the Palestinian response of Palestinian liberation organization accepted the framework, but also with heavy reservations.

So why did it not go through? That's all I'm trying to figure out. I'm just because they're a fat backed out. And you ought to have President Clinton, you show. I'm sure you ought to talk about it.

It's one of his-- I've heard him speak before. It's one of his biggest disappointments, really.

While Chairman Yasser, Arafat gave qualified agreement

to the parameters in January 2001, the extensive reservations submitted by both sides prevented the parameters from materializing into a formal peace treaty. So I'm not saying you're wrong, but this has both sides.

I would encourage you to talk to Bill Clinton. Yeah. I mean, it would be awesome. Have you ever met him before? Yeah, President Clinton.

Yeah. Oh, he would know who I am, but I've met him a couple of times. I bet he would know. Have you ever been a fable? Have I ever been a fable?

No, not here. I might have, but it's been a long time. It's one of my favorites. I didn't realize there was such a great college time. I wanted to see, I've been to LBJ's library in Texas.

I'd like to go see Bill Clinton's library.

I mean, President Clinton, I don't agree on some things, but like I say, I don't hate anybody, man. I mean, I don't, I wish President Biden well. I was more of the few Republicans that got to spend some time with him.

I would just disagree. Yeah.

“Well, I mean, I think he disagreed with you.”

You're an ass president of Biden to come on show. He'd probably do it. Do you think he's, nobody thought that he was? Well, he's a he aged. I mean, he was a aged in office.

Why didn't nobody come out and say, hey, this guy's not doing well. Well, they should have. His staff should have. But as wife should have, somebody should have like, come to the aid of him as a human being.

Well, I mean, clearly on hindsight, his staff, they were trying to hide it from the American people. And at the end, it was so bad being President's tough. President Biden blesses heart. He couldn't finish a sentence without taking a nap.

Yeah.

I mean, he never everybody knew that.

That we made it. I feel like it made us look like a joke to like the world in a way. Did you feel like that? Yes. But I knew what was going on in everybody on Capitol Hill knew what was going on.

Would you think was going on? I thought it was running the show.

“I think that he had four or five AIDS, who were making all of the decisions.”

I've always believed that these AIDS had their religion. I'm not going to say they were in bed. They had a lead just President Biden. But they also had contacts with President Obama. And I think they were making most of the major decisions.

How many AIDS is a president half? Oh, God. In the White House, hundreds include the old executive office building probably five or six hundred. I've never counted them.

That many. But there are four, there are always four or five people that tend to, that a president, whatever president tends to rely on. And at the end, the president Biden's age did a very good job of secluding him and hiding it from the American people.

They were hiding to the American people. And when the president Biden did that debate, they couldn't hide him. And it was, it was, how is in Wyoming, I remember, for something, I don't remember. But I watched no TV and I was, this is a rare phenomenon. I was speechless.

And so is he. I mean, that's a good one, man. You're right. It was terrible. It was embarrassing.

Yeah, it was embarrassing, man. That's what it was. You know what? You know what, upset me the most about that was. It, I feel like to me it showed people this is how we think of our senior citizens that

we would put them in a space like this and let them be taken advantage of. Like, to me, it got to that point where it was like, what's it called when you take advantage of someone because of their age, whatever it's said, I wonder if the, I'm not sure if there's a word or term about it. Elder abuse?

Yes. That's what it seemed like. It's because like, in a lot of countries, they respect their elders so much. They bring them back into the home, there's that sort of thing.

“And it just seemed like that's what it seemed to me like that was the view that people”

got of us and that made me sick. Well, people, the people around President Biden had a lot of power. You know, power. What did Henry Kissenshin, you say, power is the ultimate Aphrodisiac? Yeah.

I mean, people. That's true. Well, that were around President Biden. It was in their financial interest. It was in their, their emotional interest to maintain the power that was derivative from the President.

Yeah. And they kept him propped up. And what were they using? Do you think they were using anything to keep him up? I mean, you think, I, I, I almost think Hunter might have slipped him something.

You know, I don't think that. I think that's it. I'm just joking on. I'm just trying to think that. And Hunter, hopefully Hunter, Hunter knows them just joking.

I actually talked to him the other day. Did you? Yeah. How's he doing? He's been clean for a long time.

Yeah, man. His story is kind of fascinating. I'm just intrigued by it, right? I would let him maybe get to talk to him sometime. He had a really bad addiction.

Yeah.

Oh, dude. Yeah.

Most of us have been there.

Yeah.

“Well, it's, that's one of the, another thing I'm going to ask the good Lord if I make”

it to heaven is, you know, why is there addiction? Yeah. Because people, uh, it's just horrible when something controls or soul. I don't need to tell you. You've been through it.

Yeah. Everyone's a lot of families. It ruins it. What it ruins is the people around you. That's the worst part.

And there are a lot of people who aren't strong enough to beat it there. Yeah. It's, uh, it's just, it's, I have so much respect for people who beat a bad addiction where it's alcohol or drugs or OCD or it just takes enormous willpower and a lot of people don't have it.

And it takes commitment, too.

I mean, to go to a meat in five days a week, you know, to go do, to go drive across time to go someplace, five days a week, you know, the people that do it, there should be a special day for those people that are, that are battling it, you know, and that are doing a good job. They really should.

Um, there's been kind of some more socialist candidates, right, which I think is a term to save term to use. It's been some more... Yeah, democratic social. There's been like some more socialist candidates that have popped up and have garnered

a lot of support. Yep. Um, do you think that the Republican Party, like, is there a response to that that the Republican Party should kind of have or, or that the Republican Party, like, has to that sort of happening?

Like, what is kind of the Republican Party's response to that or counteraction to that if there is a question? Well, Senator Bernie Sanders... You thought it was a good question? Yeah.

It's a good question. Thanks, dude. Senator Bernie Sanders, Congresswoman O'K.C.L. Court is Mayor Mom Donny and Mayor New York, Mr. Graham Platner is running for, for Senate and Maine. They are socialist, they believe in, in a government run economy.

“They believe that my words, not theirs, you should send all your money and all of your”

freedom to them and they can make decisions for you. I don't believe that. Yeah. I believe in free enterprise. I think free enterprise has done more to lift people out of poverty and all the social

programs put together. They believe in defunding the police. They were behind all that. They believe that cops are a bigger problem than criminals. They believe in defunding ice.

They believe that I know some of them that they think all white people are racist. I know some of them that they think Thomas Jefferson and George Washington and Abraham Lincoln and Dr. Zeus and Mr. Potato Head are all racist. Dude, to say Mr. Potato Head is racist, bring him up. He's mixed.

I mean, I don't believe that. I mean, he's at least half russ it. I don't think the, I don't do the whole one. What is Mr. Potato Head?

Bro, and look first of all, look at the second Mr. Potato Head.

Look at Mr. Potato Head. I just remember. That guy, he chose the first Mr. Potato Head. Okay, bring that in first one. That was the one they got.

He was another one. Bro, what are you talking about? Steve Harvey played him too. Look at the one in the middle on the second row. He gets all the rules.

They, they got man. They said the creators of Mr. Potato Head were racist. Come on, bro. Now, I don't look. I didn't know that's what you meant.

I thought you meant to potato itself, man. A potato definitely. Potato Head. Oh, to potato definitely, he's from Jackson. But yeah, I don't think he's racist at all.

The creators of it. I don't like doctors. He's racist. No, he wasn't racist. I don't think so at all, dude.

They can't. And the head? I remember. That's a black guy. What he is, most, look, or, or, or he is a move, could tell that's not racist at all.

“It should be Horton here's a what or I think, I don't know, never mind.”

Go on, America. What? America's not perfect, but we're good. And we call the disease of slavery, but we beat it back. Yeah, and there's a lot of, there's a lot of speculation about how say we started

and where it started and what exactly happened. And I do think that over time, there's definitely this constant rup, like, there's definitely a boy, it seemed like by the media, sometimes that tries to remark, like, it's like, tries to keep people locked into a victim mentality sometimes.

That's true. And that's, it's okay to be a victim sometimes, but if all you are is a victim, I

For any of us, regardless of anything, what do you think are some of the pitfalls of

long terms of socialism that maybe people don't see that have happened in the past? If you have an example, I do not believe that the people in the democratic socialist party, that I just named, some of them, I know, centers of friend of mine, I believe deep down, they think they're smarter and more virtuous than the American people and that they can make decisions for the country and the country will be better all.

And I respectfully disagree with them. I trust the American people, this is a greatest country in all of human history. The whole world knows it, everybody wants to come here. Once the last time you heard of somebody trying to sneak into China, people won't come here.

That's a good point. And it's because we believe in friend of Christ, we believe that our future can be better than our present, our past. We believe in free will and responsibility, you know, most Americans, they don't read their studies every day because they're busy earning a living.

But they're pretty smart. They don't need a soul-crushing federal government to run their lives and free enterprise works, socialism, name one country where it worked, it doesn't work in Cuba, it didn't work in Argentina, it didn't work in the former Soviet Union.

“Yeah, that's what I think sometimes if we do get to that place of it, where if it were”

to grow that much that could it work, is it different with something to be different this time? I don't know, you know, it's interesting to think about, you know, if it ever was really tried earnestly, it's hard to know, I'm not saying, I'm not voting in, I'm trying to earnestly in Cuba.

Yeah. And we see how that turned out. Yeah. It was tried earnestly under parole in the market. But you think that, that Castro was earned like in the end, he kind of became corrupted, right?

He was very corrupt.

They've always been corrupt.

But do you think in the beginning he was earned like he tried to play himself as earned as trouble? I don't know. Right. I think he was, I think he believed in the socialist philosophy.

Right. but in the end it just became about him. - And, yeah. - Yeah. - And, uh, it sounded to Bernie Sanders.

“I think he's been on you show. - Yeah, I love Bernie.”

- I love Bernie. - I love Bernie. - I love Bernie. - I love Bernie. - He's got his bag. - Yeah. - We've said him a little thing. He's like, I always want a couple of cookies on a plate.

Like he's like Santa. - He's been a long time ago. - Yeah. - Get to know Bernie, 'cause he's, I thought he just didn't like me, 'cause he can be kind of gruff, but he's kind of gruffling. And I remember one day, I got him to smile.

I was walking over to the Capitol with another center of vote and Bernie passed me by and he didn't speak and I hadn't done or I said, Bernie, he's a boy. I said, pay your taxes, man, we need the money. - And he got a little smile, but he's a great guy.

- Yeah. - But he is genuinely a socialist. And he honestly believes that if you made money in business that you had, you did it by taking advantage of somebody or you stole it. And that's not been my experience.

I know many successful business women in business men that have created a lot of jobs, they earn the money honestly. When you started out, nobody gave it to you, you did it through hard work, you took risks.

If you had failed, nobody, the government wasn't gonna be there to bail you out. - Yeah. - And that, most of the businesses in America are small businesses.

And these are people that sometimes, the mortgage are home to take a risk. And they work hard and they create jobs. And I think that's American, that's why we're the greatest country

and I'll be in the industry. - Man, that's... - Do you think everybody agrees with me?

“- Well, I mean, I think what I do think is,”

and I thought about this is I live here. You know, I want to support this place and believe in this place as much as I can, right? Like, and I think most of my life has been like this feeling of like, America,

we're doing something good, like, we're forward thinking we care about the people and stuff like that. And then I feel like in the last few years, things have devolved some, like,

I think people's faith in the political system has waned. I think we're not sure, like it doesn't... - It's true. - I think we don't, it's hard to feel like, it doesn't feel like a team of Republicans

versus Democrats anymore. It feels like it's like... I don't know if it's good versus evil or what it is, but it's like, it almost seems like...

Like Bernie Sanders came on here the second time

But it's like, we voted for politicians,

“like, you go up the hill and plead, you know what I'm saying?”

Like, it just seems like now, like, sometimes politicians are coming like on platforms like pleading to the people, it's like, I don't know. It just feels like, it feels like something's not working.

- It's just too much, right? - And it starts to feel scary. What do you think that is? And do you think, like, you know, it feels like we have a purpose as a group that it was American,

it was like, we're gonna, something was gonna happen and that the country was gonna be better for your children than it was for you. They're used to be that feeling. And I think it was probably that feeling whenever

you were growing up and stuff like that. - Okay, you can't hate, man. - And it was when I was growing up, what do you think has changed? And what do you think is like,

like how do we get, how do you get the American people to believe again in a political system that sometimes feels like it's not solving a lot for them? - I think part of it is not all of it, but part of it is social media.

People can go on anonymously and say things on social media

that they would never say to your face

or another person's face, it's just too easy. - I think the federal government, as our country has gotten bigger and the world is more complicated, the federal government has gotten bigger, too big.

And it is interfering in people's lives too much. About 90% of my personal philosophy is, I don't want to hurt anybody unless I have to defend myself. Don't take people's stuff. I mean, if my son, when I tell my son growing up,

“don't hurt other people unless you have to defend yourself.”

Don't take other people's stuff. And the third one for me is leave me alone. I don't need government to run my life. I think, but I think a big part of it is social media. It's a sense, it is, I'm not saying it's all bad,

but it's a sense. - It's a sense. - It's a sense. - And the other thing, you've seen a breakdown in America of the family unit, you have. And you've also seen, to each is home,

but you've seen a breakdown, we become a less religious country. - Yeah. Now, you know, for this freedom of religion, you don't have to believe in God,

but it helps. - It helps, man. And I believe in God, I have doubts. When when I pray, I ask for faith, I have enormous doubts. And anybody that says that they're absolutely certain, you know, that's why God called it faith,

“but I think it's a combination of things.”

- And I don't know why people hate so much. - Do you think that we're still a Christian nation? - Yes, but less so. - Do you think we would support a Christian leader that for President, like a true Christian person

that ran for President? - Yeah. - When was the last really Christian person that we had run for President, the last person that seemed, that was truly religious.

- Well, probably in my lifetime, the most devout person we had was Jimmy Carter. - Yeah. - So, he lived his faith. Now, he only served one term,

and I didn't agree with some of his social policies. But I can't live his faith. - People liked Jimmy Carter, huh? - And I will say this one, he left the presidency. President Carter didn't go get rich.

He didn't sit on a bunch of boards. - He went in a service, didn't he? - He just helped people. And he established the Carter Center for Peace, - Is that in Georgia?

- Yeah. - He was very active in habitat for humanity. And I really respected that.

Jimmy Carter did not, was never wealthy.

- In 1982, he and his wife Roslan established the Carter Center in Atlanta, Georgia, through this non-governmental organization, he monitored over 100 elections in developing democracies, mediated international conflicts in championed human rights worldwide.

He must have a big heart. - He did a big heart. - He, his wife died not long ago. Is that right, huh? - His wife, a Ms. Roslan died before he did.

- Oh, okay. - But not much before. - I saw you talk actually about Facebook and Meta recently about how their algorithm, right? This was a really awesome point that I saw you bring up.

and thank you so much for just being somebody who like shows up with good points. Do you show up with some like great stuff to say? And it gives me faith.

“You give me faith in possibility of things being better, right?”

So thank you. - Thank you, thanks for sending that. - Thank you very much. - Not everybody agrees with you, but that's fine. - I do work in my job.

I have to, I probably spend 30 hours a week reading, at least, and to do it raw, I get, I complain it. - Have you read this yet? - I have read that, it's my book.

- How to test that, that's my great idea. Sorry, I haven't read it outside of yet. How to test negative for students. - How shall I copy for you to explain it? - Please do, man.

- It's just, I wrote it myself. It's one of the hardest things I've ever done. - Right in the book? - Yeah.

- Test negative for stupid and while Washington never will.

Yes, thank you so much. We'll be happy to keep that. We'll put it up on our shelf for a couple of months. - But I spend some of my colleagues are brilliant. They can, they're just, you know, a guy like

Marco Rubio for example, Ted Cruz, Jean Sheen, Peter Welch, I'm not gonna name all my colleagues in the Senate. - Pull up heat, man, I never even seen you. - Peter Welch, he's from Vermont.

- Pull him up, pull up people up. - These people are brilliant. - There he is. - But I have to hang up. - I have to work at it.

- Oh, Peter looks like a, he looks studious though. - He's a smart guy. But he can probably spot me 50 IQ points. But he's not going to work, man, I work harder than a ugly stripper man.

That's how I was raised.

I've always been able to outwork people.

(laughing) - That ain't it, that's awesome. - How am I getting trouble for saying that? - Don't I, no problems here, my God cousin is a stripper. So, he was.

- God bless. - But I, I saw you talk about meta and how that, there's an algorithm act that's out there, about how that, and I've talked about this before in this show.

“That's why this, maybe this really like,”

this really wrong truth me. It was like, yeah, why isn't he, 'cause the algorithm will lead you down a staircase of DVNC, Anger and can even lead people into conflict, it can lead you, it can take you

from feeling neutral, looking at something on your phone, to feeling angry and going out into public and acting on that anger or on that belief. - Yep. - And there's no repercussions from it.

- Yep. - For Facebook or meta or social media Instagram, TikTok, there's no repercussions. - When Facebook, I was, I'll use Facebook as an example.

When it first started, we passed them all.

It said, if somebody goes on Facebook and writes a post and they defame somebody, that's between the person who posted it and the person they defamed that you can't hold Facebook a libel for post, fair enough.

But now Facebook has gotten so big that they control what you see. And they gather this data about you and they want you to stay on Facebook a long time to look at the ads because they make a lot of money

selling those ads. - Right, they gotta keep you on that. - And so they send you stuff. They find out what your hot buttons are through algorithms and they keep showing it to you.

And showing it to you and showing it to you. And all of a sudden, some people can separate the week from the shaft and say, well, they're manipulating me. But other people, they get angry or angry or angry. - And what do they expect you

“just going to get so pissed off you going by an air fryer or something?”

- I mean, they make their money. - That's their strategy. - I don't mean that Facebook's not doing it. - You're gonna get so pissed off you going by a dog call. - But Facebook, Facebook has, if you ask me the one reason

for the demise of newspapers, it's social media. - Because I miss the newspaper on you. - Oh, well, yeah, but it the world's changed. And you can hit a kid off of advertising. - The algorithm accountability act is proposed,

and this has been proposed for a while, I think. This is proposed that we've been demanding for a long time. - Originally, for like five years ago, I think this first came into light. The algorithmic accountability act

is a proposed U.S. bill aimed at requiring companies to examine and disclose how automated systems and algorithms affect people, especially in high stakes decisions, like housing, credit, education, and employment. And this is perplexity here as our search engine.

Supporters say the bill would give regulators, and the public a clear way to see when algorithmic systems are causing harm. I agree, there should be something on the device that goes off and says, now you're falling in an algorithm, you know?

do you think they're making money?

- Yeah, they manipulate it. Do you think something like this will come to light soon? Like we've got to be getting there, I mean, you know, I mean, you have algorithms leading people into extremely strong beliefs, you know?

Like some people say that the, the shooter, at the, was it the Charlie Kirk shooter was radicalized by things that he had seen on social media, you know? - You know, doubt it. - Well, that a lot of these shooters are, you know?

- They, they, Facebook just, I think was Facebook, just lost a big lawsuit. - Yeah. - Uh, filed on behalf of the deceased minor

“that I think, I don't remember the details,”

but it was basically that the algorithms drove the young lady into suicide and a jury board of the money. - Here we go, campaigners welcome meta and YouTube's defeat in landmark social media addiction trial. - That's it.

- Well, man, who you got put on the stuff up? - Some white guy to DEI, you just, they, you need a pay rise, man. You're awesome. - Thank you, Senator.

- Tell me, at least you ought to buy you a car. - Hey, what? - I'll be your agent, man. - And you can pull the stuff up, that's the case. - That's the case.

- That's the case, jurors found that meta which owns Instagram, Facebook and WhatsApp and Google, owner of YouTube intentionally build a addictive social media platforms at home in the 20 year old's mental health.

The woman known as Kaylee was awarded six million dollars

in damages, a result likely to have implications for hundreds of similar cases, now whining their way through US courts. Amen, praise God, good for her. What happened?

Do they have the exact thing that happened? The young lady didn't pass away. It says right here, Kaylee started using YouTube about six years old and Instagram at about nine with no effective age based blocking from the platforms.

By age 10, she was experiencing anxiety and depression conditions that were formally diagnosed later by a therapist. She became intensely preoccupied with her appearance, using Instagram filters at altered her face,

smaller nose, larger eyes, and has since been diagnosed with body dysmorphia, a disorder involving obsessive worry about perceived flaws in appearance. Her lawyers argued that Instagram's design features

such as infinite scroll and gross strategies focused on the young users contributed to an addictive pattern of use that harmed her mental health. The jury awarding Kaylee three main income and story damages and three main impunity of damages.

Huh, okay. - I know the stuff's addictive. - Oh yeah it is. Well I noticed myself, you start getting into beliefs. It starts leading you down certain holes of certain beliefs

and then you got on your phone just to check attacks and next you know you get off with a belief. - Well it's all it's all our kids know. Our kids so many of our kids have become smart phones zombies.

You know they just, it's always this.

And look, they're, they're, they're weird.

“- If we do, they're John, do you remember what we did?”

- I didn't have social media. - But I know what it is 'cause nowadays, if you imagine, it's kind of crazy to imagine. - I know. - If you imagine some guy just sitting around.

- I read. - Like this not doing, but imagine somebody's just waiting for something similar. Were they just sitting with their hands in their lab? - I played ball in my spare time, I played ball.

I did my homework, we'd go to movies, I'd read a lot. - But outside of some of that, say you just were sitting somewhere, I guess you would just sit there and think or just, because now they had magazines, I don't know.

- Yeah, that's true. We had magazines. - Are you actually talking to someone? - Believe it or not, talk to people. - Even if you didn't like me to talk to them now.

- You just talk to them? - Yep. - Even if you like them. - Yep. Now when you, when you're around a lot of young people,

- Mm-hmm. - They really are smartphones, smartphones, so just like this all the time. - People are hooked. - And it has, in fact, I'm not saying also some media is bad, it has many good purposes.

- Nobody has been abuse. - It's abuse and it's addiction, it's an addiction crisis. - It is very addictive. - And they've been able to make it more and more addictive

and they know it, is there lobbyists for this type of thing in the government too?

“That are lobbying for these social media platforms?”

- Absolutely. These guys are strong as a horse for that. - Why don't more lobbyists get called out by politicians? - Well, I don't meet with many lobbyists, but in some state, they have an influence.

I'm not gonna kill you. - I mean, they're the ones keeping this act like the algorithm act or whatever. Of course, they're the ones keeping those things at bay. - That's not the only ones, but of course they go.

And I don't wanna just pick on Facebook, but organizations like Google, Facebook, they employ thousands of people, they have huge packs. If you're from their state and you're a senator

and if you pass this bill, I'm gonna have to lay off half of.

Plus, they do have very powerful lobbyists.

And they're just very powerful. - So that's an instance where an elected officialize to make a choice there. That's a good example of an instance, right? And that's something real that could happen.

It's like, hey, we have 10,000, we employ 10,000 people in your state. If you pass this, then 5,000 are gonna lose jobs. - And they know how to use your power. I mean, if you ask me, who's more powerful,

the state of Tennessee or Google, that's a Google. And the state of Tennessee is powerful. A lot of people want it for universities. A beautiful natural resource. But the four or five or six social media companies are very powerful.

“And that's why we have to be very careful.”

I support it, but we have to be very careful with artificial intelligence and AI. - Well, the Pope just came and spoke out against it. And that's kind of scary to think. - And AI is, this was developed in America.

It's just another example of American brilliance and ingenuity and innovation. But it's so powerful, it can make our lives better if it doesn't get us all first. But if you develop a machine that can know everything

and then can start thanking for itself and through its agents can take actions could shut down your entire infrastructure. - But with that, that's why I'll lose. - That's why I start to lose.

But what actions, like my laptop's not gonna come in and attack me while I'm sleeping, you know what I'm saying? So it's not like that, right? So what actions, 'cause I hear people say these, this thing, right?

Well, you're saying, what actions are we talking about? - Well, I mean, I'm no expert, but you can create agents now, right? - Right, use AI.

“- We just had Jeff Rich is just had he has a friend”

- Yeah, chat GPT or whatever, and he talks to him all the time and Gary. - You can, you can do that. You can have an AI assistant and give them almost unfettered authority to book you a plane ticket

or reach you a car or remind you to have your oil changed or, you know, buy some figurines that the grocery store. - Yeah, they're pretty good at that. - And they're another figurine. - They're okay, they're pretty good.

- Alright, they're awesome. - Sometimes they're great. - Fig Newton's a better than sex. Not really, not really, not really. I'll take it back, but I like Fig Newton.

- I mean, hello, I've had some bad sex. - I understand, I'm not gonna come in on that deal. - Alright, and I've had some bad Fig Newton stay. - Yeah, well, if they're not warm, I don't like 'em when they're real warm.

- I don't like 'em either. I can give you some, if they've been sitting in the sun, I don't like 'em. - I'll tell you what else I grew up on, is Vienna sausage, man.

- Oh, yeah, right. - Vienna sausage. - Oh, you know. - Makes my neck hurt. - I go fishing, take Vienna sausage. - I prefer to fish one for you.

- Absolutely, in fact, if you run out of worms of crickets, you can even get the Vienna sausage, stay on the hook. I've called many a gram and a catfish with Vienna sausage. - Oh, you can catch a girl in Avandale

with a couple of them too. (laughing) I know it had breakfast.

- That never worked for me, man.

That never worked for me. - That was a good reference, I wasn't it. - That was damn good. - Thank you. - That was good.

- And I can tell you, you're a host, yeah, I'm bored. - You know what, I think, you know Louisiana's had a tough time. And you know this, Louisiana has had a tough time over the years with like a lot of economic growth, right?

We've struggled some. We've had a tough time with a lot of jobs, stability, and job growth, right? - We were very long and gasped, Pint. - Right, we are, 100%, right?

“And so, and some of that's adjusted over the years, right?”

For sure. - We were in a slow, but it's still on board. But one thing that we do have is we have good people, we have resilient people, and those, and we have good storytelling.

And some people say, well, that's not, there's not a lot of financial, like, incentive in that, and that's fine. But we, but there's a lot of like pride in that though. - Well, I've lived in five states on a foreign country,

and I've never met people like the people who's young.

- Yeah. - You know, they're, they're, yeah, yeah. - They're God-fearing, they're hard work and they're fun-loving, they're authentic. - Oh, yeah.

- And I tell my, I tell my, I tell my, my center of the cruise a lot, he's from Texas.

and I'll say, "Cruz Look, Texas is a great state. You get all this wonderful publicity.

“God bless you, you deserve it, I love Texas."”

But Texas is five and a half times bigger than Louisiana. But we're 10 and a half times more interesting than you are. - And Louisiana is an interesting state. - I read somewhere that in a hundred percent. - Interesting people, the best, man.

The best story tells us that. - We're good at all on gas and petrol, chemical and education and agriculture and agriculture. - Well, even eat fish that have been in a demo as well. - Will, will eat anything that won't eat us first.

- Yeah. - We eat things that most people would call an exterminate a fart to get out of their backyard. - Bring it forward, baby, to see.

- But, but, it's home, and I love it, yes, never dull.

- No, it's not, I read somewhere that it's the most native state where people that are born there die there. Did you ever hear that? - That's true.

We have, we have, I don't, I forget the percentage, but we have a lot of people that are born and losing on, and they never leave. - Yeah, that's pretty special about something. - Yeah.

- You know what I'm saying? That's interesting. It's so good right there, you really need, some people only get out that chair. - People in Louisiana, they have fun.

- Yeah. - And they enjoy life.

“Now, it doesn't mean they don't work hard,”

and, but we became very dependent on gas. And when, a lot of that change, most of the course, has moved off shore. But when you're dependent on a natural resource, along gas, coal, iron, or whatever,

commodities, you have boom and bust cycles.

And when times are good, they're really good, man. But when times are bad, they're tough. Now, Louisiana is much more diversified today. And so things are, things are better. - Yeah.

- But we're still, you know, if you want a good time, if you want to get good food, I've got to tell me a joke the other day, he said, "Canity, what's the difference between a zoo in Louisiana and a zoo

in every other state?" That's the point. He said, "If you go to the zoo in every other state, each animal has its cage." And at the bottom is the name of the animal.

He said, "If you go to a zoo in Louisiana, each animal has its cage, and at the bottom is the name, and underneath the name is the recipe." (laughing) I love that.

That's perfect, man. That's so true, man. Yeah, Louisiana consistently ranks as the state

with the highest percentage of native born residents

who never leave a man. According to the U.S. Census Bureau data, sought him more than 77% of Louisiana's residents were born in the state. Because the population is so sticky

and transplants are rare. This largely translates to most of its people being born there and spent in their entire life. - How far have you got your start? - Oh, it's been in the entire lives right there.

- Then you went there and you got fame. - And then you came in there, but you got your start. I've been reading the batch. - On a chafunk though, over there. - That's right.

- You don't have a chafunk to got its name? - No. - This is more, oh, fun. - I didn't know that. - I got one for you then, John.

The chafunk to got its name because a long time ago that like a native American tribe and they went there and they threw a big rock into the water and the sound it made was chafunk. - Really?

- Yeah. - You serious? And it's kind of how a rock we can. - The talent kind of how it goes in. So yeah, that's it.

- I go fish and I'm much fun. - Oh yeah. - But that's where you got your start. - Yeah. - And I'll leave you great.

What'd you go? You and I. - You went to L.C. for a while. - Yeah, I want to tell you for a while. I'm glad you're there from you and I know.

How do you think Lane's gonna do over there to L.C. Let's put it out there. What do you think? - Well. - And I've wore my rage and cages today.

- I've worked it for you today. - I've worked it for you today. - Lane is, I cannot put it. He's a brilliant, strategic strategist. He's brilliant, he knows how to recruit.

He's got a great football mind. Sometimes he talks too much, you know. - Oh yeah, he's on the lane, look. - But he has one of Lane's fans, is Lane. - That's right.

- Yeah. - Lane's one of the smartest people on the planet. Just ask Lane. - Yeah. - And he'll tell you.

“But he's, he's, I think he's gonna be a good coach.”

But I'll tell you this. - Love you coach. - Love you coach. - Love you coach. - Love you coach, love you coach.

- We payed him a lot of money, now he's got to go win. - That's a good point, bro. - Yeah, I'm not saying he wasn't worth it. But he's making a boatload of money, a bucket for him money. - Oh, he's making a part of it.

He's making like 4% of our GDP. - And so our, he's making a 4% of our GDP. - He's got a win now. He's just got a win. But he did a great job at all, man.

- Oh, yeah he did. - You know, I thought Nick Sabine, I, this is probably here, I was, yeah. I thought Nick Sabine was a great coach.

- Oh yeah, I think everybody thought that. - Yeah, well a lot of people got mad at him from leaving.

“He went to the, to the dolphins, I think.”

And then he went to Alabama. And a lot of my people were saying, and our people got mad at him. And I kept my mouth shut, but I just said, "Look, 'cause he went to Alabama."

I said, "At the time, Alabama,

"offering like $5 million or something."

- 'Cause you're telling me that you would turn down $5 million? - Oh, shit, we just, just so with the people who's the animal wouldn't get mad at you. - We were still trying to pay him in vain, yeah.

He's up there. - Yeah, exactly. - But he, he, he, he, he liked, I think he likes those, yeah. - Yeah, oh yeah, look, I know that he's happy at air. He's having a good time, man.

Lane's a good, look, Lane loves type of a good time. I'm hopeful for him, for sure, you know. And this is where he's at in his journey. So it's like, you gotta hope somebody, I hope the best for somebody.

- I don't know, but he's in the hot yoga. - Oh yeah, I've been to a class with him. - Have you? - I'm going to a class with him at Fricken. - What's hot yoga like?

- I mean, it depends on who it all is in there.

- Yeah, I don't wanna go there, Theo. - Yeah, I mean, I gotta run for your lecture, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, I don't think your wife would be happy and went there, but look, I went there right there. Lane, kiffin, right there, hot yoga, right there.

- Here you go. - And I wear a towel like that 'cause I was raised by a single mother that you see there. - Look at you guys. - We was leaking in America.

- Now yoga's good for you. - Oh man, it's really good. - Yeah, well you'll give you good work out. - Oh, definitely man, make me feel like a name. Full year old.

The save act, right? Let's talk about the save act. - Okay. - So that's a big thing that's happening right now, right? That's a kind of like--

- Trying to pass it. - You guys are trying to pass it. Can you explain to me what it is? Really quick, can you explain our listeners what it is? - It basically says that in order to vote in a federal lecture,

“you have to prove you are who you say you are.”

You've got to have valid ID and to register to vote. You have to prove that you're in our country legally as legally as a citizen. Only American citizens can vote. Now, there's some other provisions,

but those are the two main provisions. Probably 80% of American support. We can't get a single democratic vote. Here's, this is not, I'm not speaking for President Trump,

but here's what the way I think you fix our elections

and give people confidence in our elections. Number one, you have to be able to prove you are who you say you are to vote. And number two, that just what the president says and what we say in the save act, I'm a close sponsor of it. But number two, we need to go back to an election day,

not on an election month. I agree. We need to know who won that night. Yeah. Frankly, I don't care how you vote as up to the states,

but the votes have to be counted that night. Why did that change so much? It used to be, didn't it? You see, we knew that night? Yeah, we always did, because some states changed their laws

and California, they don't know now for two weeks. They still don't know. And they still don't know, sure, because you can vote by mail.

“And it, what matters is if it's post-marked,”

and sometimes the mail slow when it takes 10 days to weeks. If you're going to vote by mail on my President Trump, Trump hates voting by mail, but some states love it. But if you're going to vote by mail, the mail ballots have to be in for enough

in advance for them to be counted in a non-stop election night. I think it makes sense. Because if you go past election night, whether you are a Democrat or Republican who loses, they're going to think the election is ready.

Right, for sure. And so now they're saying, if you mail it on the day off, it can still be counted. Oh, yeah, we have a month-long election. What are some of the side effects of this that people--

what are some of the things that this also brings in that are that people don't see. I know there was some issue with what did I read, something about, oh, you have to have two forms of identification. No, the Democrats say, well, I mean, this is my point of view.

They may have another point of view. The Democrats say it's a way of suppressing the vote. Right. To require you to have, I don't know anybody doesn't have, I agree.

I don't think, if you don't have identification, I don't think you should be able to-- I mean, most people have a driver's license, but there are other forms of identification that would be acceptable.

And if you don't have a driver's license, and you don't have any identification, the chances

Got it.

And they said that they said they're going to--

you can't register online anymore. Would that be part of it, too? If you have ID, I don't have a problem registering online. If you have proof that it is you. Yeah.

And I know technological ways, but they're-- I give credit cards online, and they can authenticate that it's me. Right. I don't mind using technology, but to register

“vote, you have to prove that you are who you say you are.”

You can only register once, and you have to prove that you're an American citizen. I don't think that's unreasonable. I brought it up. I agree.

Everybody's kind of-- everybody thinks that there's some fraud happening with voting. It feels very un reliable. Well, that's because sometimes it takes-- when they have mail ballots, for example--

it takes some months to get them all counted.

And the loser is always going to be suspicious.

But on the save act-- It's over the people. Of course. And the people are not going to have confidence. But on the save act, I tried to amend it

into our reconciliation bill. I couldn't get a single Democratic vote. What did the Democrats want in the bill? They just don't want it at all. They don't want it at all.

They think that it will suppress votes. And not all of my Democratic colleagues.

“But many of my Democratic colleagues, whether they”

would admit it or not, they want to legally immigrants to be able to vote. And no, they're not American citizens. If I go to a Nicaragua, wonderful country. My father's from there.

Is he? Well, if I go to a Nicaragua, wonderful country. You can't vote there. But I can't vote there. And I say, I want to vote, not go now.

Canity, you know? If you're like, look, you're not from here. But yeah, I look. I agree 100%, man. If you're not a citizen, you can't vote.

And I don't even understand how that's-- how it's up for debate, anybody's head or mind-- that once things to be organized in this country, I do not understand. Well, there are many people that believe.

And it's what is behind a lot of it. And it's not all of them. Right. But there are many people believe.

“So I know there are many Democrats that believe.”

That we ought to let anybody into our country ignore immigration laws. And they see it as a way of getting new votes. Well, I mean, that we had a lot of-- we had a lot of border patrol like hierarchy on during the past

four years. And there was a lot of that. There was a lot of people just coming in, moving in democratic states, people like escaping, like jurisdiction, just running away

just running off into the country and not being followed. Yeah. We've seen a lot of that every year. A lot of my colleagues, thank. And they're entitled to that point of view.

They think that vetting people at the border is racist. I don't. I don't know at all either. I don't.

And here's the way-- I read-- I don't remember what I read this. But the American people most of them-- see our southern border like their front door. Most Americans walk their front door, night.

They don't walk their front door, night, because they hate everybody on the outside and their racist. They walk their front door, night, because they love the people on the inside. And they want to know who's coming in and out of their house.

And that's the way it is with the board. We let more people in legally to become Americans, to legal immigration every year than anybody else in the world. But legal immigration is legal. Elegal immigration is illegal.

And the problem is that the people that were

advising President Biden, convinced him, he let him between 8,000, and 15,000 people. It was like the prices right. Come on down. We have no idea who they are.

Some of them, I'm sure, were decent people. But there were a lot of rapists. There were a lot of murders. There were a lot of drugged media files. We don't know where they are.

And you can't run no country in the world. No country in the world doesn't respect its borders and have immigration laws. How many people get in a lot of-- how many people are a lot in a China each year?

I wonder, like, how many people get into there? They're very strict. They're very strict. How many people do they think illegally get in a China every year?

Who can look that up? They only people I know that want to try to sneak in from China to China or from North Korea, because North Korea is so bad they want to get out. Yeah.

China is very monolithic in their culture. They don't like minority groups. The wiggers, for example, they don't want any--

Yeah.

“They like the Han Chinese and they want it.”

It's run by a small group of men that are hit--

they're hit with the Communist Party. It's totalitarian. It's authoritarian. And if they spy on you, cameras everywhere, they censure yourself from media.

And if you get out of line, they will kill you and hurt you the entire time you're dying. Shit, I'm just trying to get some orange chicken. I'm just telling you, man, it's-- and the people with China, I've been there.

Yeah, there's a nice people here. They've been there. They're a nice time. But they have no freedom, man. But they're specific.

Before you go, you were talking-- you mentioned a surveillance state, right? And it feels like sometimes in America

that we're getting to that, with a lot of cameras

and a lot of these data centers. To me, the data centers, it feels like they're just going to hold all the information from all this recording that's going to go on in this surveillance state. Is that what you feel like is happening?

Well, in order to have artificial intelligence-- and he eyes here. We've got a properly regulated, but it's here. You've got to have data centers. You've got to.

I'm OK with data centers, as long as they pay for their way, pay for their own electricity, pay for their own water, and the community exception.

“If you want to build a data center in a community,”

the community should have a say. I agree. It shouldn't be forced upon people. They're forced in one here in Nashville right now.

And I don't have-- I know that are down downtown.

And the data centers shouldn't go when they're not born. I don't have a problem putting them on our military bases. But they've got to pay their own way. They've got to pay their-- and they can't cause people's electricity bills to go up.

And they're water bills to go up. And they have to be properly regulated. What's your biggest fear with AI? Because I'll tell you, my really fast. Mine is that, say it starts to--

you start to have this thing, right? Like even Jeff Regis was communicating with an AI. He's got a buddy named Gary that he's talking to and even the Gary even knows who his wife and his family is and everything. Spooky, man.

Spooky, right? But it's all-- it was cool. It was neat, but still. It's like, what if we start to have this thing and everybody puts their information into?

Because also, AI's can-- your information is legally then also owned by them then. So if somebody ever was able to go subpoena information from an AI that could use it against you in court, or it's not in-- once you put it in, I believe most of these AI's, I think.

Anyway, that it belongs to them as well. That's right, and it shouldn't. Right, and that should hear him from us. I agree. I agree, 100% so it's crazy.

We're also defeating our actual lives and things that we think and care about and questions into this information place. But my fear is that over time, people start looking to these AI as their God in a way

because they're going to go to them, like, I need help with this. What do I do? I don't know how to feel about this. And the thing that they used to take to an actual God, they're now going to take to this, like, super computer.

“And so that's why I feel like sometimes the race is so--”

So it's very perceptive that the race is so big because somebody's-- they're trying to create the next God. That's what they're trying to do. And I have talked to people that have brains a lot bigger than mine that say within five years, not only will AI

and these chat boxes know everything, but they will become independent and can think on their own. And the next step is being able to act on their own. Let's take electricity, the grid here in Nashville. It's all based on computers.

Oh, yeah. If AI can hack into the grid in Nashville on its own, or at the instructions to somebody else, they could shut down the solar city. Yeah.

They could shut down the upcast 25 planes to crash at once. Yeah, what if they said all the Tesla's right now drive off into the company and do it? Yeah. And that's why I don't want to get in the way of innovation.

I do. We got enough. And well, no, no, this AI stuff can really, it can be a blessing, but it can be a curse if it's not properly regulated. But we don't have hardly any regulations in place right now.

We don't have any. Think about that. We don't have any. There's a potential new electronic God about to show up. Arabs and it's scary.

And we have no regulations in place. No, it's scary. We're in the parking.

but you don't want to ratchet down so hard to interfere with the regulation.

“I mean, to interfere with the innovation.”

I don't care if you do. But well, but it can make our lives better. Our lives are we're doing fine. I know, but I'm going to give you an example. It can a CT scan or a X-ray.

Looking for cancer. Yeah. A human has to read those things. Sometimes they miss a cancer. With a eye, you run it through a eye.

They never miss. That's a good point. They never miss doctors. You go to doctor with a disease. Doctors diagnosis is based on their judgment.

They can put it into a, boom, hit it every time. Yeah, and he, my doctor, might be doing who knows what. That can make our lives better. I mean, it's saying what you're doing. Anything.

But it can also kill us all. Suppose a eye. That's a big tray. No, no, listen John, that's a big tray. It's a tray off, but two people don't have two people have cancer that don't.

And otherwise we all die.

But suppose a eye gets to the point where it's so powerful and it can thank for itself.

And it decides to break it, break the nuclear code and set off nuclear missiles, nuclear ballistic missiles with the warhead to hit China without any way to stop them. Could you think any country would ever use a ballistic, use like a nuclear weapon and blaming on AI? I think Iran would.

Do you think anybody else would? No, because even though Vladimir Putin, which has the largest nuclear stock power on the world, even though he is a, he will man would blood under his fingernails. He's rational. He's not stupid.

He's not crazy. Yeah. He's screwed. And he knows, the only reason that he does not try to take out America today, he has a bigger stock power than us, but we've got a pretty big stock power.

And we would retaliate, and it would be the end of Russia, it would be the end of America,

it would be the end of the world.

“How do we get, how do we get to such an ungodly place, you think?”

Many people, people are imperfect, and too many people have more zeal than wisdom. Too many people have more what? More zeal than wisdom, ambition, desire for power, desire for money. There's good in everybody, I believe that, but there's potential evil in everybody. Yeah.

Well, I'll struggle with it every day. Oh, yeah. For sure. I'm not saying, I'm not a, I'm not a, I'm not. Yeah.

But there's a lot, there's a lot of evil wrongs. When I pray, I ask for forgiveness, and I don't try to catalog my sense, because I don't even know all of pride. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Sloth envy. Yeah. Pervert, being a pervert or whatever, not a big time when they're just born. In these, a big one, I mean, you, with social media, you see somebody driving a, you know, Mercedes, and you go, I do, I, I, I, I deserve a Mercedes.

Yeah. Why should, you, I have one and not me, well, most of the time, it's because they work the rear ends off and they aren't it. Yeah. But, but, you know, people are imperfect.

Yeah. But, but if we appeal to our better nature and try to stop having our lives run by our, our repetitive desires, like a thirst for money or power, if we try to treat everybody else with some dignity and respect, um, that's the answer to me. I mean, I don't mean to sound like naive, because there's some evil people in the

world. Yeah. And, and like, I mean, it weakness invites wolves. They, you, you, you turn them, you're, you're, they're the chick with some of these people.

They'll stab you right in the neck, man. Oh, yeah. Well, not everybody's like that.

“And I think that's why deep down, I think Americans, even though we stay anger at”

each other a lot, our, our culture was founded on respect for everybody's humanity. Hmm. Yeah. I agree. I believe that we have a moral compass.

We are all created equal. We believe that, um, we believe in equal opportunity. We believe in free will, but with free will goes responsibility and all power from government is derived by the people, not the other way around. Somebody, some, some of my colleagues won't government to run everything.

And you, if you, you have to go to government, get permission.

I don't want any part of that.

Hmm.

“Um, anything else you want to share before you go, John, or anything specific.”

You want to talk to them? I'm just glad to see you losing the animal on a UNO graduate, but come famous. Yeah. Thanks, man. Yeah.

Yeah, I've been, I've been lucky. I work hard, but I've been lucky. And, uh, yeah, I don't know, but I'm grateful that people pay attention. Hey. You're grateful to get to spend time with you guys like you to be honest, man.

It's been so cool. It's like, I'm really jealous that you met Jeff Bridges, man. Yeah, dude. Me too. And I met him.

Yeah. And I met him. I met him. Yeah. And then he's a washing.

“If you get Den's a washing, don't you show, man?”

He is. He is, like, just.

If I get really nice guy.

Oh, if I get him on you, then you got a, you wife's got to make me some ex-sale at him. Can I show, make you some ex-sale at little. They'll make you, make you stand on one leg and yo. Oh, that makes me dead. She makes some good sound.

Does she? Yeah. She got stuck. Oh, that's nice, dude. Yeah, I'm going to get me a good wife on a day's days.

A beat of roasting company. Is that what it's called? Yep. Yep. It's an old Creole cottage with a sugar kettle in the front.

Oh, yeah.

And I've been there many times.

Right there.

“When I'm home, and your home, I'll have to go over there.”

We'll go there together. That'd be cool. I'll buy you a cup of coffee. Yeah. And when go to French and have an adult beverage.

Yeah. And look, and you can write it off. It'll be a state of, uh, it'll be a deduction moment. No. We'll pay for it.

No, I'll pay for it. I'll treat you. Okay. I'm paid. I'm paid.

Okay. And by the United States, then. Okay. So it'll be just a personal expense. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. Okay. That's fair, man. I love that.

And we'll swap lives and tell stories. And you can tell me what Hollywood's like and Los Angeles. Oh, yeah. All those fake people out there. All those beautiful people.

And you train. You train me. Stories. And just the swamp waters over there. Washington, DC.

That's right. That's right. That's a deal. John Kennedy. Senator John Kennedy.

Thank you so much for your time. Thank you. Thank you. It's been fun. Thanks for having me.

Amen. You're the prime minister. Cool yourself. Oh, thank you, bro. I appreciate you.

Now I'm just thinking on the breeze. And I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I must be cornerstone. Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this piece of mine. I found I can feel it.

In my bones, though it's going to take.