#667 - Duncan Trussell

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Today's guest is a stand up comedian, podcaster, and just a downright cosmic adventurer, adventurer. He's got his own show the Dunkin' Trussel family hour and his new podcast, Mystery Boys

with Kirk Metzger, always a blast, the one and only Mr. Dunkin' Trussel.

Whoa! Look at that! What kind of cameras are you guys? Jesus Christ. He's so inspirational.

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We now work for Palantine with these are we're using flock cameras. It's incredible. You can see this can see right all the way through my eyes, through my past, my history, all the way into my mother's body. Past life's.

Yes. Get to your past incarnations too. It's really cool. Tech is amazing these days. We good that.

Good lighting. You guys are good. Look at this shit. What do you mean you have a podcast? You have a podcast.

This is next level. I love Josh and my studio is great, but I don't have this kind of like I look at me. I look good in this light. Dude, you definitely. Bro, you look, I will say this.

It's the lighting. It's Conestoga Wagon times, right? Like with the old days and it's like, you know, it's a Conestoga Wagon. Yes.

“And it's stalled out on the side of the road, right?”

Yes. Because anything good of happening with yet a Conestoga Wagon, because you had wooden wheels, remember? I do. And dude, you could have gotten termites overnight.

Well, of many things. Termites mean just think of wooden wheels on some old fucked up.

There's always paven roads back then.

You're going through forest creaks. Your wife is guessing where a road could be. If she's still alive, she doesn't have an arrow through her throat. She's not choking on her own blood spray. Your wagon stained with blood.

Yeah, you had 11 kids. Your wife has had kids this week. This week. Like that's it was like that. People don't realize what it was like.

Oh, no. People don't know because we've had past lives. Yeah. I remember. Oh, dude.

“I remember sitting on like a, um, like a hillside where because everything back”

him was a hillside. Yeah, all hills. Remember that? All hills. Remember everything was hillside.

It's like now there's like a lot of pavement. There's flattened areas. Thank you, sirn. The fucking particle accelerator fucked everything up. Now there's flat places.

It used to just be a series of fills. Everything was a hillside. I know. Dude, even people's bodies, you'd have one like you'd have the strong side of your father and the weaker side because of how we walk to work.

That's right. You know, because you'd have to walk at an angle. Everybody was diagonal. Yes. Everybody walked diagonally.

It was so different. But dude, in the, like, you're wagging could easily wake up in the money. Some termites had showed up like a gang of termites or Italian. Some people called them, right? Yeah.

Show up in eight a spoke off your wagon wheel. Right. And you got a flat. Well, Italians used to eat wood. So you would literally, you wouldn't even know what it was.

“Was it like a wild ravaging group of Italians or was it termites?”

Yeah, you'd have no idea. Yeah, Conestoga wagon wood was like the precursor to pizza apparently.

Oh, it's called the first pasta in some cultures.

Dude, that's a craziest thing. Doesn't Conestoga mean pasta. It means pasta wagon.

strong, jaw to Italian, showing it up, right? I mean, it's just, well, he's so strong, jaw just because, you know, his neck and everything he's strong from wearing all of his chains, they wore, like, all the chains. Yep. And he's so jacked and he just sees it, walking warm wagon wheels warm, because it's

been rolling all day. Yeah. Plus a stink of birth of wagon birth. Yeah. And then, yeah, you'd hear him come slithering out of the woods down the hill.

You're lucky if you were on top of a hill, because if you're at the bottom they just sled on down. Dude, you'd be standing at the bottom of the hill and then Italian was rolled right up against your leg. Yep.

They just, that's how it is. Gravity and Italians. Dude, back then there's stomachs, we're just like, like, callous underneath the hair. It was just from sliding down those hills, attacking the wagons is a thick, shiny callous to help them slide.

Yeah. Terrifying times. People are a historic these days. And then, you know, if you don't remember history, we're fucked. And you got to know what actually happened, but this country was founded on.

And I want you to say that, we're again, people are a historic. Yeah. And what does that mean? Duncan. I mean, people don't give a fuck about history.

They don't care. No one's looking back. Nobody knows. Most people don't. And not just like with, like, US history, world history, but, like, musical

any edges and stuff, people just don't really care. Well, reparations people are looking back. Yeah. That's the ultimate rear view mirror as people. Right.

If you ride in the car with somebody who's, like, big on reparations, they're, like, seven rear view mirrors in the car. You notice that? That's a lot. But you have to stop.

Like, with that kind of thinking, you do have to stop at a certain place.

“You can't, you have to, like, stop in a certain frame.”

You can't keep going back. Right. You have to stop there as well. But come on, man. Wouldn't you, like, if there was some way for you to get reparations, wouldn't that

be amazing? These people start, that's an incredible income source, you know? If they can tap it, I think, one of the biggest groups, or some of the biggest groups that probably have, at least, called out to the gods of reparations, probably in our time, would probably be black, or, I don't know if it's African-Americans.

I don't know if it's black people in general, but I think it would be some African-Americans, people that came from Africa in the slavery, or their ancestors did.

And then the Native Americans, like, would about, that tab was never paid.

Listen, this is why we got to have been a time machine, because once we get that fucking time machine, we could go back in time to the actual colonizers and slaveholders and take their fucking shit. That's true reparations, because they're the ones who did it. You know what I mean?

I mean, the idea of the reparations is like, we, I mean, I'm not trying to call you out. Everybody knows you have slaves now, but I am not a slave owner. Come on. We all know what's going on in Nashville. Come on.

I'm sorry. I don't mean to do you guys touch this out. You guys can cut this out? No. But I, on the other hand, don't.

I, I, oh, you're the unslave guy. I'm not doing this good. I don't get the numbers you're getting.

“So, so, you know, you do, you should pay reparations, but otherwise, we've got to get”

a time machine, man. What will we do? I'm saying this. And I'm going to be honest with you. We get a time machine.

Yes.

We go back, first of all, in time, right?

And we get there, the colonizers, I don't know, how, what is our strategy going to be when we get there? We've got guns. What do they have? They have guns.

That's how they did it. Yeah. But not, not like AR15's. It got like shitty muskets and stuff. It's going to be very easy to colonize the colonizers.

No. What if there is a metal detector when you get into the time machine? Disable. Like, it's my time machine. You don't think you, what?

You think they're just part of the build? You think time machine is going to come without TSA, do you think that the government

“in Israel is going to let us have a time machine without TSA?”

You're right. They ruin everything, man. They ruin everything. You're going to have like off-market underground time machines that are going to spagata fire ass when you travel through time.

It's not going to be safe. I will say this, bro, they will have like, there's no way you're getting a TSA free time machine. You're going to have like some lady over there who's like, oh, you got a baby milk in there or something.

They always like, the first thing to hate is a baby milk.

Or if you're even a woman with full tits, you're like, yeah, what's in your tits, you're like, oh, what's in your tits is a baby milk. Dude, I feel so bad for old people, pregnancy and new parents going through TSA because like they get fucked up, they're aggressive with them, they like make you disassembled a baby carriage, they scan the baby.

It's like, what the fuck? Yeah, they're like, you're going to need to open his diaper up and I'm like, what are you doing?

It's crazy.

Now, all the fucking peeping time, because I'm second in line now, it's like, I'm getting

drawn into crimes. We're about to travel with the whole family, Theo and you and we got a new baby, we got a five month old and you just, I just got a prep because they do not treat you kindly. God help you if you're a breeder and trying to travel on the fourth of fucking July. You are my wife.

I'm fine. You just have to stand on the other side and you just watch it happen. The pat down, the disassembly, the scrutinizing of the tits. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's the worst and the worst is that they look at your wife's tits, like they wouldn't

have any milk in. Right. Like what do you think's in there? Yeah. It's a baby right there.

What do you think? She's got nitric glycerin in her tits? I think she's fucking. Why? Why are you doing this stuff?

The kids are screaming.

“What do you think we're trying to get food in the Gaza or something?”

What do you think? What's happening? Bringing my dad's ashes to you to scatter him, so it's like going to be double. It's going to be the most dramatic TSA of all time, because I'm just so worried about what?

What are they going to do with my dad's ashes? Yeah. Are they going to search him? What's in there? Yeah.

That's ashes. I have no idea. Oh, what can you do? Someone's a molar. There has been a look.

What is that? What's the most common thing found in human romance and in dad's ashes? Dude. And Duncan. Good to see you, dude.

Good to see you, Pio. Thank you for listening. The most common thing found in your dad's ashes. This is actually interesting.

“Take it through this, if you don't mind Duncan.”

Oh, I'd love to. Calcium carbonate. Of course. That's some bone stuff, trace minerals, such as sodium, potassium, and magnesium, trace metals, implants, like surgical screws, pins, or dental fillings after processing.

Ooh, that's pretty cool. Burbin crystals. If you had a southern dad. Oh, I see. Yeah.

Oh, just from like a, like salt build up or something, he'd have burbin crystals build over his bones. He'd still use burbin whiskey. I could see that. A little bit of, uh, probably some racial jokes.

A lot of dad's would have, like, you're just sifting through the sand of your father and like, uh, just like an inward fly.

It always, 30 pollock jokes.

You like, no one even understood why your dad was always making, you didn't, you didn't even know what a pollock was when you were a kid, but like they were apparently really dumb based on your dad's shitty pollock jokes. Yeah. Oh, man, dude.

I can trussle thanks for being here today, dude. Happy to be here. Um, and, dude, I want to say, also, congratulations. You and Kurt Mads, grab a new podcast, the mystery boy. That's right.

Yeah. Dude, it feels like a producer traveling out here, who's talking, I was out of bugging skittows. Or a spy. Could be a spy drone.

Could be a drone. Dude, if the drones get that small, we are. Oh, they are. They already are. Well, let's don't wait.

If we start there, it's gonna, every podcast now starts there. By the way, whoever's surveying us with your mechanical misguiders, you're an idiot. It's a fucking podcast. You could just watch the podcast, you don't have to double film the podcast. Dude, we have, we've, we've had people on then had the room searched afterwards to make

sure that they didn't leave like a, uh, listening device for something like that. Oh, yeah, you're getting that level of guests who are living in, like, it's so crazy

how like the more powerful you get, the more you live in a surveillance state.

Like, you know what I mean? The, the, the Trump, he's the most surveilled person on the planet, right? Like, he lives in the most high security place of all time. He must, he got, like, and it's not just like secret service monitoring him. Right.

It's people. He thinks for his friends that he, I bet he doesn't even know that I bet he doesn't even care. I bet he does. You think he does? You've got to feel that.

You've got remote viewers from, like, various countries, trained, psychic spies. You've got ghosts. You've got, you know, a variety of dropping ghosts. Eavesdropping ghosts, malevolent entities, time travelers. You've got witches actively cursing you at every hour of the fucking day.

“Think of the way, that's why any president, look at them.”

Look what happens to them. They melt down their crushed by just the sheer weight of a cult energy being leveled at them by all variety of sorcerers, neck remancers, garden variety witches, like hardcore mountain wizards. You just don't even know what's coming.

Two sayers. Oriye counter employees. Yes, evil iron, you just, like, you've got the evil iron, you would all time. So you just get all fucked up and you, like, look at Trump, he's got those splotches now. He's like, he's like falling asleep.

Oh, Obama. Look at Obama. He looked like a ring race when he... Oh, he might. By the time he got out, he was, he's totally clean, just withered all of them.

Look at, 2009, ho, joy, 2016.

You've blown up countless innocent families with drugs. You know what I mean? You can hear. You can hear. You can hear.

You can hear. You can hear. You can hear. You can hear. You can hear.

Look at fucking Lincoln. I know. All of them. It does it to all of them. Look at that.

But all we have is a before and after a bad dude. Yes, true. That's true. And also people. He was probably 23 in both of them.

Oh. Did you know it's pretty wild. I was thinking about this the other day. There's not another famous person with the last name, Lincoln. Whoa.

I don't know when he Lincoln. Like, there's him, Abraham. Was that his name? Or Abraham. Abraham.

Abraham Lincoln. And then Mary Todd Lincoln was his wife. Yep.

“Who was kind of like, and then his son, Ted Lincoln, I think, who died at a young age.”

What did Ted die of? But no other famous Lincoln. Think of one. I don't know any. Absolutely unbelievable.

I know like a lot of people whose first name is Lincoln.

I don't know any famous, oh, there you go. Edward Baker. Lincoln, he died on February 1st. It aged three to burculosis. These are the kids.

These are his children. William Wallace Lincoln. Wow. The old name died at the age of eleven, typhoid fever. Thomas Lincoln known his dad.

His cause of death is tuberculosis pneumonia or heart failure. Holy shit. But people do not understand. And we do not understand that this was the president of the United States. And three of his kids died by the age of 18 of tuberculosis.

Um, whatever, the other one was, I think just, and one of them probably was gay and they killed him. That's always happened. That was one out of three kids. Yeah.

And then they say they say that they'd give it a bigger name. Yeah. Like put them on. Heart failure. Yeah.

Heart failure. How we know what happened. But dude, isn't that the craziest way to describe gay? It's like, he should love a woman, but he had heart failure. Heart was failing.

But his heart failed in like men. He fell into the pigs, fell into a pigpin and was devoured. Dude, I'll tell you. Like, really, it looks like he was like, like, fin and for a beautiful day at a picnic basket.

Yeah. I mean, yeah. He had a letter to a Randall in it, you know. They'll Randall. I know that you're about to peasant my father's president, but you know, I'll tell

you.

“That's why I think of the how wild it is.”

You have three children. Four. You have four fucking children. Four children. Yeah.

You just had another child while we were finishing the sentence. But just imagine that. Go on. Anywhere you say? No.

You didn't finish your point. Imagine. Like, when you have kids, you, you can no longer watch date line. I used to be able to, when I was single, I can watch date line. Some murderer came in, killed a bunch of kids, exploded a house with kids and it killed

a mom and the kids watched and, you know, it sucks. It's sad. Right. Whatever. Yes.

Anything about a kid dying, any, it's like your DNA changes for real, even dads. Wow. So it hits so hard. Losing three of your children, I can't even imagine. I can't even imagine you're not sleeping anymore.

You can't, you're just a walking corpse. You're, you're gone.

Your heart is never going to be better after that.

So that might explain why Lincoln looked like shit before he got assassinated. No offense. This is what it's like. You know, this is human existence.

“That's how, you know, having, becoming a breeder really teaches you.”

When you choose to have some, when you choose to create more. And then we're all, we're all, Vic, there's always been some form of, like, at that time, everybody's a slave to the lack of knowledge, maybe. Oh, yeah. Is that, is that a realistic thing?

Oh, I think so. I think like back then, you get an infection, you're dead. They're saw on your arm off. Oh. They had, like, they had ether.

They didn't have, like, the incredible anesthesia that we have right now, where they can dial and just the dose, you know, the exact amount of time before you wake up. Back then, I think they were just, like, putting a rug on your face if you're lucky. Or somebody, someone would just whisper your ear like this, you're not feeling anything. You're not feeling anything.

You don't feel this. You're dreaming. You're dreaming. Just saw on your fucking arm off. That was what it was like.

Look at your dreaming, dude. This is actually great. You guys are good, 1850's average cause of death tuberculosis. And what was tuberculosis? Let me say real quick, the single biggest killer in many places is especially among adults

and children, which is everyone, so weird thing to say. In one 1867, Kentucky sample, 18 of a hundred deaths were from consumption, similar patterns out in the 1850's. What is consumption? Can you also be looking up what tuberculosis is?

I think that's what they call the consumption, right?

Like, dude, imagine you get invited probably one week in at school, you're a school kid, right?

Consumption is an archaic historical term for tuberculosis. Yeah. A highly contagious bacterial infection primarily attacking the lungs. Ah, coughing up blood, happened to egg growl and pose wife.

“She died into tuberculosis, like, just everybody, you would have little, this is, I think,”

where the handkerchief in the pocket came from is like, if you wanted to politely cough up blood in front of people at dinner parties and stuff. Yeah, because if you're a poor, you just coughed it in your hand or whatever. Oh God, cause I'm dead, that was what I was like back then. But dude, imagine one week in as a kid, this could be a real life of a child back in

the day. Yeah. You go to a kid's party one weekend. Some kid is having his fifth birthday party, which at this point is probably one quarter of his life.

Right. He's about to go to work in the factories. Yeah. Who'd be at war in two years? Two years.

He's going to be fighting. Yeah. He's getting ready to go to work. Almost, work in age. You go to his birthday in the next weekend, you could conceivably go to a funeral of

another, of another child or adult.

“Every, I guarantee that like every son that you're going to a funeral back then.”

Like you, like you, a son that you're not going to a funeral is a good son day. Right. Just go to any, like any old graveyard. Look at all those little graves, dude, kids were dying left and right, there's a miracle for a kid to survive.

One was a little bit like Rick and it was like he's 11 years or something. Yellow fever, you know, where I come from in Georgia, the cemetery where my family's buried. It's just like filled with these old graves and that's all yellow fever. It's all just weird old diseases and some yellow fever, some people think it's because you people hate Asians so much that they die that they're heart snap.

That's not it. Right. Yeah. We're talking about the original one. Yeah.

Yeah. Actually, yellow fever is my favorite K-pop band. Like there. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.

I do. I'm sorry. It's hilarious, dude. They know what's going on, dude. Dude.

If you ever heard of Peter Diamondas. No, Adam. So he's like, it's interesting because there's like a group of people who are, who look at the world right now, from a historic perspective. Okay.

And they're like, shit is really good right now and it's going to get better.

That's what Rogan always has.

It shits the best it's ever been. Well, and people hear that if you don't know this sort of thing and some people don't. If you don't realize that like, if you have electricity, you're doing pretty good. Like if you're a whizz your modern day wizard. Wizard.

Yeah. Exactly. Like you could just flip a switch and lights come on and you could take a shit and flush it and it goes by by. And it goes to a poor neighborhood.

Yeah. Well, that used to go out the window. It fucking, you know, you're shitting a chamber pot, throw it out the window where it's a land in puddles of like blood from people with consumption, or shit.

“And we're just some kids playing and everybody was honestly probably like good luck.”

It's almost like you know when like a butterfly lands on your shoulder or something now. It's a good luck. Or if you see a clock, it says 11/11, but I give you were taking a walk and you, and you just got hit by a bit of the king shit, you know? That's long by shit today, things are looking up.

Yeah. Oh, a bit of a king shit on me. Yeah, man. Oh, thick shit from the king. Ah, nothing better than a king's thick shit.

Because no one else had thick shit back there, only the king's who else would have a thick shit. Everyone's shit was watery, watery shit, a king shit. It was Memphis coffee, dude. Yeah, Memphis coffee.

But the king's shit, he was fucking serve and plaster a Paris brother.

Powerful, charismatic, probably smelled good.

Aluvial. Yeah, yeah, it was, you know, royal shit. Medieval kings did a diet that was far more varied and depending on period and region, often less dominated by meat than the roasted turkey legs here type roasted meats. Yeah, that seems like normal stuff.

But yeah, dude, if you, God, and I bet some people, and I bet there were some people almost like, they're down in their luck and they would just hang out outside of like a, like a, because the kings told us were up like in the air, they were built like, you know, the second floor of third floor of the cast. Yeah.

And just a whole week come out of the wall. That's well, back then, you would look, now, I happen to be an expert on sewage systems in castles. Oh, good. No, I want to know about that.

I studied it all through school. You'll see here that, now that's nice. But some castles, you would shit down into a pit. And then the way that you would get lice off your clothes, because everyone was covered in lice back then, is you would put your clothes out over an open toilet and medieval toilet

So you were wearing clothes that had been lice free, but, you know, like shit sentence. Well, like a porta potty. Yeah. Smell like a cachella porta potty. And that was a clean shirt back then.

“Yeah, medieval toilets, commonly known as garden robes were built over waste shafts or”

pits that discharge directly in the moats. They featured a surprising dual purpose. Nobles used the ammonia heavy air from the toilet pits to store and delouse clothing. God. As the fumes were believed to kill clothes, lice and please do that's unbelievable.

Like, God, you smell like shit, but God. No lice. No lice, come on over. No lice. You get to pick.

Yeah. Come on over and touch his books. Come on over. For touch his wiener, if you were to get it. I just delouse my underwear.

Yeah. Lice free pussy back then. God.

Can you imagine going, finally, you don't have lice crawling all over your face or your vagina

or your, or your, the end of your wiener, if you're a man. Dude, the end of very end of your wiener almost looks like a little bit of like a vagina, you notice that? Are you kidding? I, it's all I think about.

Yeah. I, it does though. Oh, it does. Mine is pet. Oh, yeah.

It's amazing. You could, you can, oh, this is another part of it. When I was a child, they had, I, I, I was born the very small wiener hole. So I could pee like 15 feet. Did it expand?

I had to go get a surgery. You really did. Yeah. So your, it was fused a little bit. Yeah, it was a little fused.

And I mean, I could piss, dude, I could wash a cat. Yeah. That's, uh, from 15 feet away. Yeah. It's so good.

Did you ever wash a cat's eye? I mean, I could have. Dude, you could have. That's, must've been painful though. Oh, I'd surprise a fucking, and nobody knew it was euring, because it just came

at such a, a rip. A fucking rip of fucking yellow piss. Oh, it was like, uh, it was loud. Oh, and it had a Roger Clim and sort of, it was a, it's painful. It's like piss on ecstasy.

Pitter. Oh, oh, it started to burn me at a certain age. But I didn't mind it.

“But once you're getting in that age, or you want to piss fast, dude?”

Yes. Cause we had a time in our town, everybody's pissin' real fast. And I remember like, it's just when kids are like, how fucking fast can you piss you a little bit? Get her whatever.

Oh, yeah. You're like, how pissed fast. You got to piss fast. And you're straining, but it hurts. It fucking hurts.

But that's when I was, dude. Oh, I was. I would wash a bottle of whiskey that was sitting on another one. It was a power washer. Yeah.

It was like, yeah. You could clean off graffiti with your piss. You know, I could definitely, I could clean the rims on your car. Fucking, you got to, and there's money in that. There's money in that.

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“We're, you know, what we're talking about, I think.”

Oh, it's just how it's been bad. It's been bad. And this long time. And then some ways, this may be the best that it's ever been. I do want to talk to you guys, do have mystery-boys podcast because, do you feel like,

'cause you and I have both had a series of podcasts over the years, do you still have your own podcast? Yeah. This is my newest podcast with the brilliant Kurt Metsker, the mystery-boys. Yeah.

And he's on my playlist, I know that. He's awesome. And he's just, man, his brain just absorbs esoteric information. Yes. He remembers, like, names of ancient grim wars that are hard to pronounce, is knowledge of

a cult history is amazing.

It's like, it's just a brilliant dude. Oh. There's knowledge of shards from another realm, is something we can't fathom. I also want the guy that I love, I heard, is I love his voice, he has a great voice. Oh, yeah.

It's fun to listen to. It's this kind of futuristic, but ancient sort of, hodgepodge of soundary. Oh. And he's like connected to some of the most interesting people, the guests he's been getting.

“We've had somebody who was on who claims to be in a secret space program, I think that's”

this week's episode. No, it's last, it's a two-parter, but this dude claims that in the military, he was essentially inducted into this top secret program where, I mean, most people don't know this, but the United States has been engaged in a kind of galactic war, we're being run by reptilians, gray aliens, or essentially like IT workers, people don't realize that.

This, one of the stories he told, and what's so interesting about his stories are the details. They take him into this office. They're about to introduce him to this program. He's passed an IQ test, apparently you have to have a very high IQ to get into this program. Oh.

Very high. And it's not a normal, like, written IQ test. Right. They have some futuristic thing that just can tell if you're a dumbass or not. And he passes this.

They bring him into an office, a gray alien, waddles out, no, from what behind a curtain or a door. A door, like a little, I guess a cat door, so like it just comes, waddling uses a door. That's a part I don't get. I wish I'd ask, because he would have an answer.

He would have a great answer for that. In my view, it's like a cat door, like maybe a mid-sized cat door. Okay. He's modeling out long fingers, and he starts working on a Dell computer. He just, they use him as IT.

He just starts unscrewing a Dell computer, I guess, to put more memory in it or something. And they were looking to see how he would react to the fact that a gray alien was working on a fucking computer.

And the story is amazing.

He gets in trouble. Bring it up. Show the episode. Just what it is. Yeah.

He got in trouble. Because the first time he met a reptilian, he poked the reptilian in the eye and reptilian see humans is essentially just like below snails. Like we are a little bit, we're just hideous foul animals and they look one of these things in the eye.

Means you are going to be tortured. When you poke it in the eye, did he say if it feels like an eye, like as if you poked one of us in the eye, or is it almost just like putting your finger into like a gelatin or like a water? Like a pool of water?

We're going to have to have you on the show because that is the level of interviewing skills I don't have.

“Why didn't I ask what is the reptilian's eyeball feel like?”

I didn't ask. It's a, I missed it. They obviously have because their eyes are to see fucking bird bass and another realm. Oh dude. They're evil.

They're fucked up. The reptilians are really fucked up. They took him. Yeah. Did he get tortured?

Dude. Okay. Hold on. Dude.

He's also out to laugh because it always makes me laugh dude because here's a crazy thing.

And I'm going to be right back to where we're going back. Please. Rep to aliens. They're fucking bullies. Oh my God.

Oh my God. I'm so glad you're saying it out loud. Nobody ever says it dude. All they do. They take somebody away.

They kind of put their knuckle in their butt or something or they're fucking like, you know, fuck them in the mouth or they're dirty.

I wouldn't be surprised if you were in the secret space program based on what you're

saying.

“They're almost a direct account of how they torture you.”

What did he say he knows what happened? He's trying to kill us. I do. Actually maybe let's, let's say science have its way. Let's see what goes for.

Yeah. Let's see what it's up. Let's see who it drains. At the end, it's going to drain one of us. This is a new game show.

Yeah. The end of the fly. There's a fly that's flying around. Whoever, it doesn't like or whatever or whoever it does like, really is one of the blood it takes.

Yeah. Let's see. I think there's two. That's a problem. Guys, it's probably tad-linking in his body.

Come on. Take the blood. Yeah. They use your. Yeah.

Sorry. Did they say what happened? Did he say what happened? How did the torture go?

First of all, they didn't torture my earth.

As it turns out, on the moon, there are these like government facilities where they are mining helium. Oh, we, so they did it at their place or whatever. They took, no, the US military, because the US military is in control of their uptillians, they transported him to a moon prison where this guy, you interviewed.

Yeah. He was on a prison on the moon and how did he get to the, how did he get to the interview to send an Uber? What? I don't know how they get to the moon.

It's still, how did he get to the, your interview? Colin. He called in from Florida. He called him from Florida dude, which is basically our version. Oh, like, like, that's our version of like alienism these days.

That's right. It's a call in from Florida. He called in from Florida, he's a, he's a very sweet guy by the way, really good storyteller. And here's where it gets really weird. So, you know, they're torturing you up there on the moon.

And, but also as it turns out, it was the Mexican guy starting to talk to you as a Mexican guy. I don't know what this, ethnicity. It was a call in. So, I didn't get to see him.

Why do you ask?

“All, all Mex can do is want to go to space, you know?”

They don't act like a, none of them act like it. But I got like a couple of clothes on my friend's, they all want to go to space. Well, don't you want to go to space? Yeah. Kind of not that much anymore.

Like, I don't know. Like, if I want to, like, if I'm going, I'm going to leave. I'm not going to go out there and come back. I'm like, maybe some little bitch at just like, I'll be back in a minute. You're not going to bathe those.

You're not going to go up at a little fucking dick rocket and float around up there. I don't even think Bayes else went up there, did he? I think, did he go up there? He just sent up like five or six people out that I think that I heard that he wants to smash or whatever.

Dude, and then brought him back down. It was like, is like someone who is little flying smash bucket. Yeah. He's been, he flew on a subboardable suborbital. I don't know if that counts, man.

But for the new shepherd rocket, I want to go out of orbit. I want to go toward, like, somewhere in between Earth and the moon. Dude, you can hit subordable, just taking the direct fight up to Calgary, dude. Oh, wait, he did do it, 10 minute flight across the car, the car moneline, the recognized battery space and reach an aboggy.

But you know, Bayes else sending a bunch of hoties up in his rocket is the modern day equivalent of like driving ladies around in your core of that. It's like what all the guards do to get laid in this city up to space. Yeah. But yeah, you know, that's true.

So the guy who's been to space and was molested in a moon prison gets Uber over to you. Oh, he's a call in. He was molested in a moon. You're right.

I'm sorry. It's not funny. Let me know.

Well, first of all, whether or not it's funny or not, I need to point out something.

The earth. I did not say he got molested in a moon prison. You knew it. Why? Why do you know that?

Were you in the gate program? Yes. Dude, guys, oh my god, you were in gift and talent. Yes. You know what that was.

Yeah. It was easy to get into an art town. Okay. Yes. Oh, I've heard there's, there's possibilities that they were, uh, it was like a CIA,

like a Sia. Not a possibility. Like that is, you can look that up. That like a way series. Dude.

You can look it up. It was, so like the idea was, it kind of makes sense.

“Like if you're running a country who are the smart kids, right?”

You want to find out like the super smart kids. You create a program that separates those kids from the rabble. And then via that, in that program, you can start assessing them to see whether or not they'd be good to work in intelligence, CIA, covert programs, or just like any like federal job.

And then you start grooming those kids. You start, and where it gets like into the deep conspiracy stuff is you, they were looking for kids who have like, you know, telepathic ability. Oh, I thought nice legs are some of you're going to say, so I wasn't like that too. It wasn't like that.

Like a pedophilic thing. So go ahead. They're looking for kids that have one. Yeah. The secret.

Look, telepathic ability.

Yeah. Yeah. Military intelligence, the secret military unit focused on psychic espionage and remote viewing, often called the Stargate project. What's that?

That's not our thing. Yeah. It is. We were in military intelligence. We weren't doing shit.

We read my side of the mountain. Well, right. That's what you remember. Did you get the weird headphone test? Yeah.

What the fuck was that?

“Do you remember the weird shit they made your drink?”

Kind of mischanted. They had this fucking headphone test that we'd take once every quarter. Yeah. What the fuck was that? What was that?

What does that have to do with being gifted and talented testing your hearing? What is that? Why they put that on us? Why they make us drink that weird pink shit? What were they doing to us?

Why do most people don't remember it as well as you do? Most people with a foggy, weird memory. The whole thing was some kind of bizarre federal program. You think that that's true. Look, there's a now, I mean, this is one of the many like conspiracy theories that is

not so much a conspiracy theory anymore that you could look it up. You could see some of it is obviously speculation, some of it's real. So we don't know. Yeah. What were they doing?

They wanted to find kids who would be great assassins. Fuck. Dude, in none of our kids made it then. I didn't make it. Did they kick you out of the gate program?

No, I stayed in and wow, it got a little too homeworky for me at one point. Yeah. Yeah, it was a lot. I wasn't a company man, that's what it was at a certain point. I think I wasn't a company man.

So funny.

I've never talked about this in years, dude, but yeah, we had to go off in this special

building and learn out there, or whatever. Yeah, they separate you, they separate you and it was very strange.

“I think I made it like two weeks before they kicked me out, but yeah, I just think they”

wrote the test in work. He's a fucking idiot. I don't think it had anything to do with compliance or not. You seem like they would have been there to target me. No, I didn't make it.

I didn't make it in. I didn't get to be in the secret space program and that's a good thing. But, yeah, according to this guy, there's brothels on the moon. It'll change the way you look at the moon. There's brothels.

The miners on the moon are geniuses. Like, who threw the fucking miners up there, fucking? It's like, is it luck-naked in them or whatever? Dude, I don't know. You don't want to get lost in the weeds when a dude is telling you about fucking on

the moon. Yeah, you're right. Because he was banging on the moon. You're lying. Dude, they are sitting on the moon.

He was fucking on the moon. Like, God. They have brothels. They, for, like, in between getting tortured, you get to go to the moon brothels. And look at you.

It's the best. It's the best. What? Hold on a second, dude. You guys just listen to the episode.

Like, I'm not even doing it justice. Because there's so much more detail. There's kind of a love story. You kind of, like, fell in love with a nurse. Like, it's kind of romantic.

And, you know, he talks about all these densities. Like, the way they shift you to get to the moon is, like, like, the reptilians are on the fourth density.

We're on the third density.

Aliens function, like, at a different vibrational frequency. They have devices that shift your frequency. And reverse, age you. So, I didn't see that being possible. Some of it.

I, you just, who knows? Well, because, you know what, you start to see that frequency stuff. You see that frequency when people put the sand on certain things in frequency. Simatics. It's called simatics.

Yes. Yeah. Bring up some simatics if you can't. Just so we can see what we're talking about. Love simatics.

If you haven't seen this, it's basically they put sand. And they're cracking from wrong. And they put sand on a paint on, like, a flat plane. Yeah. And then they play music through it.

Yep. And the sand forms certain, like, kind of, like, snowflakes or text. Yeah. Like the fingers or textures or designs. That's right.

predictable geometries from various frequencies. They, it produces these, like, interesting patterns that sometimes kind of look like crop circles. Mm-hmm. And that's ketamine on that plate.

Is it really? It works way better.

I would always do this before I snorted ketamine.

I put it on a simatic plate. Said it to. Yep. 47. Do you, what if you crunched up a bunch of freedoms on there?

It would work. Yeah. It probably, like, you're fat. You'll die. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. But this is real stuff. So this is forwarded to, yeah. So these are the hurts, different hurts they put through.

And if you've never seen this, it's unbelievable that. So this makes me think that we could just, like, this, some way that, if you put a different frequency through us, you could then transfer us from one place to another. But because you could shape us in a different way to be able to be transported. Exactly.

“And you know, what is, like, what I think of this shit, I just think of like, oh, right?”

Like, when people get into conspiracy theories and stuff, inevitably, there's like this hierarchy, where there's someone controlling someone else who's controlling someone else. And it's like, it's, it's reptiles all the way down. Like, where does it stop?

But I think of simatics where it's like, well, maybe, maybe, like, the way things

keep repeating throughout history and sort of the same way. Because there's these various frequencies that exist on planet Earth. There's frequencies that create power dynamics that create authoritarianism, tyranny, fascism, like cruelty, war, and you can tune into that frequency. And the more you tune into that frequency, the more you like, your, your shape changes.

And as we get not be, do, that's such a, that's, it's simatics, the study of visible sound and vibration demonstrating how acoustic frequencies organize physical matter in a geometric pattern. Yeah, because human body is largely water. Soundwave travel rapidly through us, making it possible to get frequency and vibration for various wellness therapeutic and clinical applications.

Yeah.

“Dude, this is one of the most unbelievable things that I've really, I think that I've thought about in a while,”

because if you see that, do that to that sand, right? Yeah. And if you know, yeah, what if you put a frequency on that's like, I'm going to feel this way, or this is the frequency that's tuned into this. Almost like a new radio station for yourself.

Like instead of tuning into like no frequency, where I'm just the whims of the fucking, at the bi product and like exhaust of corporate, you, the corporate universe we live in. I'm just wandering through that frequency all day. What if I spent time tapping into a frequency that actually brought me some piece or frequency that brought like, it made me exude like love or possibility or hope or power or protection?

Yeah, that, well, I mean, this is a choice. You know, you're sitting on the toilet, taking a shit, looking at whatever the algorithms feeding you, you'll notice the out. And I'll throw the shit out the window, hopefully it hits someone, so it. I, well, you can aim.

Right, but also, so it hits someone and boost their spirits. I know, but what I'm saying is you don't have to just randomly throw it. You can aim. You can slingshot it. Uh, but go on, so you sit on the toilet, go on.

Hey, well, I'm, but you're, ever, all of us are like staring into these hypnorecting. Right. The algorithm, at least my algorithm, oh my god. It's fucked up. It's just showing me like horrible things.

People in the midst of psychotic episodes are people in the forest drinking their period bladder. You know, just oh, it's wild chaos. It's witchcraft, new beverages. Yeah, but it's crazy.

Dude, you'll go from like, it is crazy dude. There's, there's definitely scrambling our brains and they're, we're starting to, like, with the things you see, because you'll see like, uh, genocidal killings of children. Yeah.

Children, looking, kid looking for his mother for 70 days. Yeah.

Finally finds landmine and Palestine, you know, like a landmine wearing his mother's dress.

Yeah. And they kill the child or whatever horrible. You'll see that. But then immediately, it's like 40% off these A6, you know, and you're like, that's right.

That's right. But it starts to confuse your brain because your brain, it takes the depth of one that's so deep and one that means nothing really at all. You got it.

And then it puts some kind of an all in the same plane. You're good. You better watch out because you just articulated something that I've learned from Matzker, which is, like, it's, it's, for me, like, it's, believe it or not, I'm kind of skeptical about stuff.

But this one, like, it's hard for me to dispute. So he, he says that assassinations, public assassinations, create trauma, cultural trauma, Charlie Kirk. Did you notice the Charlie Kirk assassination? Everyone saw it.

Yes.

“Before they shut it down, all of a sudden to watch that shit happen, right?”

So this produces trauma. The trauma response opens you up to conditioning. It's the same shit kidnappers use. It's the same shit people who torture you use. It, they freak you the fuck out so that you kind of dissociate.

You don't want to be there. You, you, you, you, you, you go into a kind of sad, foggy place. And then in that place, they show you the A6 commercial. In that place, they give you some propaganda. In that place, they give you a solution.

So this will never happen again.

This is a known technique for mind controlling people. So anytime there's assassinations, it's not just like power dynamic shift. Cultural dynamic shift because they inject that moment with, however they want to shift the tide. Right. So, so Instagram is, or any social media, it's kind of doing this, but like low level.

Right. So you look, you know, suddenly you're broadcasting it. Yeah.

“It's like open and like freaking you out and then what do you know?”

You're, and then where it gets really creepy is the commercial you're getting. Isn't just from the algorithm. It's because your phone heard you talking about wanting to, like, "What's the best fish in rod to catch catfish?" Yeah.

And then so right after you watch a furry eat a hot dog with a human turd in it. Yeah. And you're like, "What's happened in the world?" Like an ad for like fishing rods comes after you're like, "Oh, cool."

And dude, speaking hot dogs dude, foot long hot dogs.

That's actually kind of white people eating foot long hot dogs. It should count as reparations dude. Oh my god. Just saying like, "Does that stand up baseball game, whatever?" Having to eat them in public dude.

It's so fucking scary. It's crazy. That's, that's accepted. That's not studied. Yeah.

And that's the kind of thing that they're getting us to do. It's like these little, they're, and they're sitting in a fucking like glow. Like they're sitting in a snow glow on the moon and a, you know, outside of a brothel on the moon that they own. You know, probably just like, desgaling their skin with their like reptilian brush.

You got it. And then they're watching us. Like just like streaming like countless hours of us eating foot long hot dogs, you know, and like got it. And then they say, "Then they hit you with the reparations thing."

Yeah. Like will you sign for reparations, you know, it's like, Yeah, whatever it is. It's like, you know, it's, but the reality of it is, your, you know, a vampire only goes where they're invited.

That's a vampire rule for some reason. Never understood it. But a vampire only goes, so a vampire comes to your door.

They'll always ask like, "Can I come in?"

And if you say no, they won't come in. I don't get it. But that's vampire mythology. So your phone is the fucking vampire. And you're inviting it in every time you stare at it.

You're saying, "Please contaminate me with a combination state propaganda. From other countries, corporate propaganda." And like, just weird shit, like you're inviting this in. You, all you gotta do is stop what you can't. It's hard, but it's almost impossible.

“You can do, I think there's ways to do better.”

The ways that I found that help me are one, some meditation helps. I do meditation every day now. It's not a ton, 10 minutes, but it helps some days. I'll get in two sessions. It's not a ton, but it gives me a little bit more space sometimes.

I don't need that. It sounds like, "Let me look at my phone now. I don't need that." And then the other thing I think is different types of plant medicine can help you. Can help give a little bit that more you could connect you back to nature.

Those are the two that I know. Well, but yes, too much, man. I think 10 minutes of meditation a day is actually pretty admirable, man. A lot of people can't do that. That's you shouldn't beat yourself up about that.

I mean, like, how long were you told the meditate? I don't know. I just feel like the good people do it for such a long time. 20 minutes, maybe? Like, yeah, like 20 minutes seems good.

But they did have those monks. Who were those? Don't monks meditate? Yeah, man. Yeah.

We'll do that. But then they found those monks with math or whatever. Can you look that up? What? There's math monks?

Math monks? Oh, yeah. Were they smuggling dope? No. What was it?

A third of monks at a temple in time.

That's got to be hard to meditate. A third of the Buddhist monks at a temple in Northern Thailand, have tested positive for maths. Six out of 18 monks at what problem in Pijit's province were just robes after failing surprised drug tests during a police raid on Monday. I also also found meth pills.

A homemade gun. What the fuck? A gun. That's good. Oh, my god.

A gun due to a gun is the total opposite of being a monk. That is a crazy temple. And that is, I just, do you think a man can help you meditate? No. You would be like, dude, you would be doing all the prayers like as fast as you could.

It would be like our father would be like, oh, man. They can have me. I'm going to give him some right in the other instance. I don't think those monks are doing the whole prayer. But that's what they're doing.

I think they're probably in a crazy contest online to do the Lord's prayers fast as they do. That's 11 second. Bro, new record. Fuck you, dude. That's what they're doing.

“That's how, but do that's how to strike.”

We've got in monks are doing meth and they're having contest to read the Lord's prayers fast as they can. Probably, I mean, and they had a gun the guy had a gun. You're being paranoid. You're fucking paranoid. You're a meth.

Next step, you get a gun. Maybe you have a copy of the shantar I'm under your pillow. Maybe. That's the most risk anything you're supposed to have as a monk. Yeah, dude.

That's wild. That's just, just, I guess that's what's happening right now, man. People are, people are fucking snorting math and temples. They disrupt them. I know.

But I bet you're high. If you're a whole meth data, but you want your robot. You're not really a monk. Yeah, dude. My buddy was a monk for like almost, I think, almost six months.

What kind of monk? I don't know. I don't know. I'm sure it was an organ. What color were his robes?

“I think his robes is just orange, kind of.”

Probably a Buddhist monk? Yeah. Yeah, Buddhist monk. And he said that they would sit around and, this is kind of crazy. But he said to them, they would sit around and draw hair on each other.

And they would sit around for fun and draw hair on each other.

And it was kind of like the, like, kind of the Loki, like, you know, or whatever. Like kind of a sweet thing that I heard. It's weird. I don't know, man. I don't want it.

That creeps me out. Bro, the other guys are doing meth and meth in me. I don't know what it's worse. I'll probably, I don't know what it's worse. I don't know what it's worse.

I don't know what it's worse. I don't know what it's worse. I don't know what it's worse. I don't know what it's worse. I don't know what it's worse.

There should be a contest to see how fast can someone say the Lord's prayer did. Do you want to do a con? Do you want to do a race? Do you think you can do it? Do you know it?

Yeah, I know it. You go first. All right. Zach, will you time us?

“So, you can tell me when you started trying to see how does it work?”

Uh, I'm accounting down. Ready, three, two, one. Our father right in heaven. I will be like name. You know, come on.

They will be done in earth.

This is heaven. Give us his day. They'll be right in the refrigerator. Just trust us. It gets us.

And at least not temptation. But deliver us from you. For thine is the kingdom. The power of the glory forever and ever. Amen.

All right. We need the summer eat. Let me think. All right. Do we?

Yeah. Two. One. Our father right now. And I'm going to come to that.

What have you been on earth? And give us a day. I really pray to give you a day. And pray to be. Oh, shah!

Another chance. Give me another chance. Give me another chance. I miss some words. Give us a day or a day.

We pray to forgive us. We forgive. We forgive. I'm going to give us a day or a day. We pray to forgive us.

We forgive. I'm going to give us a day or a day. I'm a trauma time. - Great. Two.

One. Yep. - What is it started again? Sorry. - Our father.

- Okay, our father. It's called. (laughing) Okay, because we only had a step that. Come on.

(laughing) Two. One.

“- Our father wasn't having a holiday on any of the key.”

We called that. We'll be on the other side. Give us a day of a break. Give us a day of a break. And forgive those who trust past against us.

No. - That's a devil getting in you. They're making you stutter. - Oh, that's the mosquitoes. That's the Texas Devil Flies.

Got your tongue. - That's a tongue burglosis. - Yes. - We got a consumption. - Spearage of consumption.

You got all that. The Holy Spirit flow through. - Yeah. - Yeah. - You're predilated.

Won't you give us a hand. I gave anything. Give me your hand. Oh, man. - He's got.

- He's got. - You know that mountain dude. You know it. It makes me think about. Summer time.

That hot part of the calendar. You know how it works. You know when the calendar just gets hot. It gets so hot. Sometimes I'll call the government.

I'll say to turkey and you turn it down. We can't handle it. It would get so hot. I mean, you'd have to open up the windows. But then the hot would come in, you know.

And then you'd get so hot inside. I'd get to open up the doors. And then in the hot would go out and in and out. It was just a lot of hot. Thankfully, I had me some mountain dude.

Just a refreshing. Whew. It was like the heavens cut the false at our own. And I can't just enjoy myself. Just do and just do in myself with that mountain dude.

I liked it. If I had me a candidate to a mountain dude, I'd go out and pet every dog and town. That's all right. I just became like that neighborly American, you know.

That's how I became. I'd be shaking the hands of local raccoons and politicians. And all of them, you know. I'd watch the win go by. Maybe whistle at it.

Let it know. I had a way of making mountain little breeze right there. Something about that summer time and just having a little bit of mountain do when you make you with us. We want to get out there and just kiss a bald eagle.

You know, somebody settle for your grandmother or whatever. You know, little kiss on the cheek. Whatever, you know. Pop popped in mind. What I'm saying is this.

Mountain dude, it's just. It's an alternative to the heat, but it's also part of. It's part of summer. But dude, you win.

First of all, congratulations.

Thank you so much. 9.8 seconds. That was really good. Yeah. Actually, I can't believe.

You know, that's why. For our father in 10 seconds. Yes. I think it's good. And I would love to see other people if they want to challenge

Junk and on that. They will crush me. They're going to be critiques. There's different ways to say it depending on what the nomination you are.

“I think that was what I learned as an Episcopalian.”

But I think there's my wife's calf. I'm going to say a part of it are different. But I don't know if that's going to add or subtract seconds. Dude, my girl Catholic, but that's too bad. Just give me a way.

Let's go.

I got you. I'm just making up. I don't have a girl. But if I did. You don't have a girl.

No, but she'd be cute if I did.

“Wow, it must be tough to find a girlfriend for you.”

I just had some dude with a super successful podcast. One day, I'm going to get one. I mean, it has comedian. I think you know what. There is like an age where I think it gets a little bit weird.

And then maybe I'm just, you know what? I think some of the stories I tell in my head. I got to change a little bit. Yes, dude. And you know what's funny?

I never said that.

I've never said that before.

You've never said that. Come on. There's a book. Not really. But the ones I'm telling myself because I don't even realize they're being told.

They've just been written on this wall. Like these old like this is the way it is or whatever. It's like, dude, I'm going to find somebody great. Of course it takes time. Everything in my life is taking time.

And I don't want to get somebody that's just like, you know, like I want to have some fun. But at the same time, like yeah, I want somebody that's going to be as perfect as fit as I can get. Dude, if there's this book, and it sounds like bullshit. And I actually got the book because I was watching that documentary on Next Sim. You know, Next Sim called Keith Reniri, you know about that?

Yeah, we had a guy on here from Next Sim, didn't we? Oh, no, we had a guy who got bit by a dog at a Next Sim event. And what? I'm not even joking. Who was that guy?

That sucks. He was fine. He was like at a cult event in a dog event. And he got bit by a dog.

“But that's how he got involved with the cult.”

Whoa. Oh, that was it. Oh, no, my core is mom, no, not him. That's out. Yeah.

Oh, he was talking about Alex and Max X cult. Yeah. There was another guy who'd been cured of, oh, he got cured by of, um, OCD. Yeah. Sure.

Not cured by Navexam. Yeah, cured by Navexam. Mark Elliott. Yeah. Oh, look at me.

Right there's young at say I. You look younger now. Well, I'm an older now, but also, not if I, if I'm definitely older if I keep telling myself that I'm a fucking boss. I'm a fucking nine.

You're all your little f***ing. Mark Elliott. Informant of motivational speaker. And loyal follower of Keith Renier and his organization of XM. A purported self improvement company.

I believe he got bit by a dog. I could be wrong. But I thought the dog, something happened. He got cured. He was diagnosis with her surprise disease.

A rare intestinal disease at birth. Um, Ali was returning home from a camp via Graham Busman. He repeatedly shot at an anti-black racial slur at black passengers. That's called riding Graham. First of all.

“Uh, I think, and I think some of that comes with the price here.”

Take it, I believe. Yeah. I wrote G-Hound for a long time. Shot out Hound. Uh, because he had a Tourette, though.

That's why. Did he ever cure it, did they say? He claims they cured it. It cured it. It's in the documentary.

Like it shows people being like, um, it did not cure my Tourette in any way. Oh. Oh, well, why do we have them on the podcast? He said he did. In the documentary that I saw, it was, well, I mean, it was claiming that they cured it.

Oh well. So maybe it says it did it. It didn't cure his Tourette. But I thought I can't remember exactly what happened in the episode. It was just like it was seven years ago.

On the documentary I saw. It was, you know, some people. It seemed like it was helping. But I heard about this book on this documentary. I was fascinated by this renewer.

Because it's like, you see him. And he doesn't really seem like somebody who would successfully start a sex cult. Bring it up. You know what I mean? No judgment or anything.

But it wouldn't be like the first person I would guess.

You look at like, put it, put it, pull up a picture of like young Charles Manson. Right. This dude was getting ladies to brand his name into their fucking bodies. No way. Yes.

Yes. Now, you look at him and you wouldn't guess that. But pull up like a picture of Manson. That's the one tennis. Young Manson.

Bring young Manson. Or not that young. But you know, that Manson. You look at him. Yeah.

I could see you starting. So kind of sex cult it. I could see your members cutting swastik as into their foreheads. But this dude looks like like somebody your mom dates before she marries your

stepdad. But this dude does look like he has a dark side to him. Dude. Yeah. This is just all based off of one photo.

But that guy looks like, yeah. Yeah. You date your mom. You think he's nice. He comes in the house and says cool stuff.

Yeah. But he doesn't come through kind of his promises. And then you see him yelling at your mom outside of the apartment window. Yeah, man. Yeah.

That's that fuck out. That's what it is. He's right near. Could we get him on here? He's in jail.

He is. Maybe you could call him from jail. Dude, jail. That's the most sex trafficking you could ever do. It's bumper to bumper in there.

No. No. He in this guy.

He like, it's like the documentary is incredible.

And you know, obviously like, it's horrible. Like doing the shit's horrible. But when you when you just watch it in terms of like, whoa. Like the ambition, like, oh my god. How'd you pull that off?

Psycho cybernetics. Which sounds like worship. Yeah. The name sounds stupid.

“But I got this book and started listening to it.”

And it's this plastic surgeon wrote the book. And he noticed that you would give plastic surgery to people. And their personalities would change. Fix their nose. And they would turn into these different people.

And so his premise is that they're sort of an internal visual image of yourself inside of you.

So so basically like if you look at what you think about throughout the day.

And a lot of people worry, ruminate. They're constantly bringing up things. They're afraid of in the future or shit. They wish they didn't do it in the past. Yeah.

And this is what's creating the you. It's you're habitually running through a roll of decks of bad memories and internal fears and stuff. And so he's saying that what's really cool about that is it shows you how disciplined you are. You think you have no control over that. But you do.

It's just habit. And so what he says is, oh, there's a lot of techniques in there. But one of them is what happens if you. And you start a bitch waiting yourself to remembering. Good moments in your life.

Instead of bad moments in your life. And it sounds so obvious. But when you every time you find yourself getting freaked out over that fucking memory, the thing, what you're worried about the thing, you replace it. And he says it doesn't have to be a big thing like winning a marathon.

He's like, he uses the example of when you learn to tell your shoes. Yeah. You know, so some just when somebody smiled at you. Yes. When you smiled at someone.

Yeah, that's enough. And you start replacing this habitual. And you're a human nation with good memories. Even if they're from the distant past, it doesn't matter. All of a sudden, your life starts changing because your.

Your inner identity will begin to conform to. No, it'll begin to lead your outer identity. That's right. Yeah, you start making different choices. All the stuff changes in your life.

So his point is you don't really need to get plastic surgery. He was, he was saying that some people get a scar on their face.

And it makes them more powerful.

“Like he was, I think that the Nazis and the fencing Nazis.”

If you got a scar on your face, it means you were like a. A great fencer. Yeah. So, but some people get a scar on their face ruined their life. Right.

You know, so obviously what's going on there is not the external. Appearance. Wow. It's how your brain. It's how you're wearing it.

Dang. And I wonder if. What if we all just don't even. I've long thought this. What if we all don't realize there's so much more capability that we have.

That we just don't know. I believe that that's such a truth. Like what if you could think your way into looking somehow different?

Like that's almost that's almost.

It's interesting for a plastic surgeon to say that because it's like. Yeah. What if people could think or believe themselves. Yeah. You actually that you're that you would then visually somehow look different.

Like I know it probably would be tough to really unstructure your. Like it wouldn't. Skeletally that would be probably impossible. But on a, but on a different type of level or could your skeleton morph over time. It's interesting to think that.

Wow. If I had enough of belief or if I knew if I. If I. Prevade this type of energy. Yeah.

Or I just envisioned it enough that I would actually become the thing that I envisioned. I'll pull up, pull up like an early picture of Marilyn Monroe before she got famous. I go visit her grave sometimes. You really do. Is she a Nashville?

She lives or she's she died or she dies. I guess she lives in a coffin around the corner from where I live. You live in a coffin. And what in what's what I mean crazy. It's way to see.

Yeah. Yeah. She's living in a coffin now. Yeah. But she's yeah.

So that's her. Yeah. Marilyn Monroe. Oh, bro. Yeah.

Yeah. I will say this. She's going to track the young lady. She's not the Marilyn Monroe that we envision. It's still beautiful.

That's you sure that's her. Yeah. Like find some other like early pictures of Marilyn Monroe before she was famous. I don't know how you find that because like a lot of these are like modeling pictures. But when you look at them, it's like, there you go.

And like, you know, obviously you could say, I'd suck her feet still. But you could say that that this was, you know, lighting makeup and stuff like that. But there's a story I heard. I don't know if it's true or not. Marilyn Monroe is at a diner.

“She's with one of her like, I think childhood friends.”

And like, you know, no one even knows it's Marilyn Monroe. And Marilyn Monroe says to her friend, do you want to see what happens when I become her?

And so all of a sudden, she does something.

“And turns, like, essentially shapeshifts like she embodies Marilyn Monroe.”

And everyone in the cafe starts looking at her, oh my God, that's Marilyn Monroe. So this is what this dude is talking about. And you know, how many times have you been with a person you maybe isn't like, classically beautiful with their personality? Yeah.

It's so amazing that you start falling in love with it.

You realize the physical appearance. It's nothing compared to this spirit inside of them. And the coverse sadly happens where you're on a beautiful person. And you realize, oh my God, this is a monster. And it's so fascinating.

It's just the shell. It's like a lampshade or something. It's like what kind of light is shining through? Dude, that's a great way to say that. It's like a lampshade.

There it is. The Marilyn Monroe shapeshifts a story refers to a famous anecdote where she could alter her appearance and simply by changing her posture and energy when walking down a busy street unnoticed as Norma Jean. She would turn a companion asked. You want to see her and instantly transform the iconic Marilyn.

People who were with Marilyn during these moments such as her friend Eli Wallock. Or the actress Susan Straussburg noted that she changed nothing about her clothes. Or make up instead the transformation was a master class in embodiment. Wow. It's wild.

That stuff is wild that you could do that.

“But it is interesting. Yeah, how I feel? What do I carry?”

What am I going to take outside with me today? What am I going to take inside with me today? Yeah. You know, I applaud parents because I know their lives get so busy. And the time that they have to even take for themselves.

Yeah. And the time that one of them is like, "Hey, will you keep watch for a little bit?" Well, I just go meditate for 10 minutes or brush my teeth or pat myself on the back or cry in the bathroom. Yeah. You know?

Yeah, it gets wild. I think that's a real war. It's a real tandem. It's a real. If it's working well, I bet it's a real tandem thing. And sometimes it's painful and sometimes it's beautiful and sometimes it's probably a lot of things. But I applaud the amount of time parents has has to be like,

Oh, my God. Well, you know, but the thing is, and you're right. And you're totally right. The amount of free time I have now compared to the free time I used to have. Like, I could spend days.

Days along. In my house. Plast in Rails Academy. Completely, happily along. Playing video games.

Yeah. Along.

“And I would get bummed out if I had something to do, like, two days.”

Two days away. I'd be dressed up. Yeah. But, but, bro, that's when you know you're going to be doing some drugs. Oh, yeah, man.

But now, I have no very, what people would call free time. Yeah. But what is free time? The real question is, like, the example that I've been taught in Buddhism is we all have a version of a place where this is where I'm going to feel all right. And for, like, a lot of people, maybe not touring stand-up comics, but for a lot of people that could be a hotel room.

A nice hotel room. You can order room service. The TV. The soft bed. No disturbances.

Phone is off. Now I will relax. So this creates a terrible tension between every other moment. Like, everyone has their place. What is that?

The place or everything. This is where I'm going to be. For some people, it's just coming home. After a hard day's work, sit on the couch. Whatever it is for some people.

Right. Everyone has their little oasis in their mind. This is the place. The idea is, this is an illusion. The oasis is an illusion.

You go into that place. The place isn't giving you relaxation. The place isn't giving you peace. You're deciding. This is where I will be at peace.

Theoretically, you could do that through the whole fucking day. Your whole day could theoretically become that place that you're hoping to get to. When you have enough money.

When you finally get a vacation.

When you finally get some moment to yourself. And this is what I have read is one of the definitions of enlightenment. Enlightenment. This is a definition I heard. Because it's even defining it as difficult and who the fuck knows.

Yeah. The idea is, what if every place you are at was free time. Even though it was filled up with all kinds of activity. Even though there were things you had to do. But if you were maintaining this sense of like, yeah, this is where I belong.

This is good. This is the vacation. Hmm. Hmm. And this is in the third Patriarch of Zen.

This is great. What is me learn this? Yeah. The first line.

Can you look up the third Patriarch of Zen?

And yeah, that's it. And in any wrote, the great way is not difficult for those who have no preferences. Hmm. Your preferences are tormenting your own. Ah.

You want to be there. You don't want to be here. You want to be somewhere else. And when you're a parent, your preferences will destroy you. Because you obviously, there's moments that I just want to play Diablo 4.

Dude, I just want to sit on the fucking couch and play Diablo 4. I just want to be alone. I don't want to be around anybody for a second. That's a preference. And the more you cling to that, the more you'll suffer.

The part of the soul that burns in hell. Yeah. Is the part that cleans the life. Wow. That makes their effort.

Dude.

“I think about that stuff a lot to with like, uh,”

sometimes with like, reliving old parts of my past or old stories. Or just like, yeah, old things that happen.

It's like, how long do I want to think I have to figure this out?

Before I just want to set up some barricades for myself now. That's like, hey, we're not going to go try to figure that out anymore. We're just going to move on, right? And we're going to move on and we're going to put boundaries in place so that when this Dang or the certain types of people or this energy comes around.

That this is how we're going to behave towards it. Yeah. And we're not going to be like mean to it. But this is how we're going to operate now. Instead of like, I get stuck in this place of like, wow, I'll figure this out

or little more therapy in this and that and the therapy and stuff. It's all good, right? It's all helpful. It's all like put to magnifying glass on things that are cool. But um, but to at some point be like, you know,

this path, it's a lot, I don't know. I've been on this this path for a while. Let me try to do something else. Let me try to move forward. Let me try to not even let this be up.

Like, let, let, let me really let this be part of the past. Yeah. Instead of going back to the past to solve something. Like, that's the thing. Sometimes I keep going back to the past to solve the present.

Oh. Where it's like, let me try and do this maybe a little bit different. And um, so I've just been thinking about that recently. Um, thanks for some of the chat stood. I want to find out what's what's a rabbit hole or like something that you guys have learned

on mystery on mystery boys. Um, but I just want to get this up. The guest Mark Elliott clarifies that he does not claim to have been cured of Tourette syndrome. Instead, he describes his experience as a journey where he found a way to master

the condition, noting that while the symptoms have drastically reduced, he still feels the urge occasionally and works to change his relationship with it. That's interesting. Yeah. Write it down.

That's what I do to write it down. Um, with mystery boys, what is a rabbit hole kind of that you or something new that you guys have like, like, last on to that's been like, really interesting to go down. That you and Matt's curve have. I got to give full credit to Matt's curve for most of the rabbit holes.

Like, I'm telling you this guy. He like, it's.

“Do you think he's good or evil when you think about him?”

He's good. Okay. Very good. This is pop quiz, man. Why do you think he's evil?

No, I don't know. I was asking you. He actually texted me and told me to ask you that. Are you kidding me? I'm not kidding you at all.

So it's just a good. Oh, he's the sweetest. I know him. I've already decided how I feel about him. He's good.

I really good. I wouldn't do a fucking podcast with a evil person. Why would you do that to yourself? That's horrible. Dude, do you ever think what if one day you got home years from now?

And you started to notice like something like that. Like you're scanning around your chin or something. And you started feeling it and then you took it off. And what if we were the aliens do? Oh, my god.

Oh, my god. Like this whole time. Yeah. We've been trying to hunt the aliens. Sure.

And then you peel. You're like, what is that? Dude. You think it's acne. And it's just fucking.

Abracadabra, you're an alien. Oh, my god. And then you peel the alien mask off. And you're human. Yeah.

And you're a cool boy. So what the fuck are you, man? Yeah. What are you? To turn it up.

Yeah. You know, spin that shit. How about this dude? I'll give you a quick one. Yeah, take me down.

But I want to go on a rabbit hole. Okay.

“And that was a, and no curtain as an ass.”

I was just joking around. Dude. These far from evil. But, um, Matt Skirt did.

Give me a little bit of trivia.

Which I'd never heard before, which is the most batshit thing ever.

So John Wayne Gacy, the famous serial killer. From Illinois. Horrible. Motherfucker.

The clown. Yeah. John Wayne Gacy. Petophile. Fucking clown.

Just horrible human big. He plays. He too. Lazy killed people. Put him under his house.

Oh, yeah. He said that if he was guilty of anything, it was running a funeral home without a license. But because he had rotting child corpses under his fucking house. Also, we are deeply political.

which is already weird. Like what, you know, you know, there's going to be a clips that day. Right. Why are you executing one of the most notorious serial killers,

like on the day that like in a horror movie, that's how you get a zombie. Well, Freddie Krueger.

“That's how you get a demon or something.”

Execute the person. It's a solar eclipse. They come back to life or they aren't your dreams. So that's just weird by itself. But coincidentally, Jeffrey Dahmer was baptized.

And I'm not sure into what denomination of Christianity on the same day. Another fucking serial killer. Baptized, wow, during the execution of, like so. So a spiritual realm is open. Yes.

And a, and a calendar, a seasonal, a, what realm would that be? What do you mean? Like the, the, the, the, the, the spiritual realm is open with the baptism.

Like there's a spiritual, right. Like embodiment happening. And in, in a clip says just so like in the West, we think are cool.

Everyone goes out of clips. You get your clip. A clips glass. Everyone goes out to look. They are fucking cool.

I've been there. They're amazing. It's amazing. To witness the temperature drops. Shadows get weird.

But like, you know, one of my friends, who's like a shivite for real. Who, like, you know, Hindu, follower of Shiva. You know, he was explaining to me like,

in India, a clips are not something you want to go out. Under, like, it's, it's represents an opening. Where a lot of weird shit can come into this realm. So, you know, his advice is don't, don't, don't go outside during a clip.

Like, it's, you don't understand the energies that are out there. This is, this is, this is in their cosmology.

So, it's a very powerful, even if you're not into the woo's stuff.

It's a very crazy thing that happens. And, and it bird stops singing. You know, they think it's nighttime all of a sudden. Like, it's just a very deep, spiritual moment. So, why?

Why do you execute this monster during an eclipse?

“And why do you baptize another monster during the eclipse?”

And why, why on this thing day? And how is that accidental? And maybe that's simatics. I don't know. Maybe that's just part of, like, the weird,

secret gears in the universe. We don't know about. But, to me, it's very fascinating when moments like that emerge. Right, when it's when, when the curtains are open a little bit into the ethereal, into the next realm, when somebody's spiritually,

you're kind of, you're, when there's an anointment in a, an embodiment, putting the, you know, blessing somebody with the, the embodiment of God, like, bring God into their, into their heart, you know. Right.

Right. That's, that's risky behavior, dude. I, yeah, I wonder if, um, do you know if, it's kind of weird that we get people to go outside and look up into the eclipse then?

Yeah.

Was that always a practice,

or did people use to not look staring into the eclipse? No, dude. People went blind for sure. There's a famous-- People went blind is because there were eight years old back in the day.

Well, yeah, you would just go blind from drinking water. I mean, dude, imagine how scary, dude. Everything was a game show like 200 years ago, dude. A couple of water. You could get undi-hydrated or tuberculosis.

What do you want? Explosive diarrhea? Yeah. You want to die of thirst or die of dysentery. Yeah, okay.

One of the other. One of the other. No, people have not always looked at eclipses. Historically witnessing an eclipse was often met with fear, all or strict avoidance rather than direct observation,

because ancient civilizations lacked scientific explanations. Many cultures considered the darkening of the sun to be a bad omen or disruption of the natural order. I make sense. For sure, many cultures believed a celestial creature

was attempting to devour the sun. The Norse-Blame sky wolves. The Chinese told tales of a celestial dragon and asked to believe the jaguar was eating the sun. People would often bang caught, scream,

or shoot arrows into the air to frighten the monster away. And it worked. Yeah. But it is, when did we start seeing eclipses and going and watching?

I mean, forever. But did it become a practice? Was there something that happened? Like it was a big thing on television? Like go see the eclips or whatever?

It was always significant.

I mean, it's just like no matter what period in human history, like, can you fucking imagine

“not knowing what was going on, why that was happening?”

But two times. Fun would we have had back then. First of all, you get to make up what's going on, right?

Like you get to believe what's happening.

But I just think the imagine everybody's imagination back then. And everybody's like storytelling. Like you had to have a piece of information even you had to, like,

life would probably scare you. You had to seem viable. You had to fight for your existence, probably.

“Well, I mean, this is what I think is interesting.”

Like you valued your life more because you fucking, your sibling was dying at home. It was like, let this day mean. Let this day mean something to me. Let this information that I'm reading to.

Let it let the fact that I can absorb information. Let it mean something to me. You're saying that now, maybe we've lost that. That people have become sort of numb, nihilistic husks who don't value their own existence.

Like they did when you watched your friend get eaten by a wolf. Right. I think we're, it's a tough. I think we are, we are deeper in it than we know. I think we are up to our waist right now in it.

In what? In, in the suction of, of the devil. Oh, right. In the suction of something deviant in the suction of the dark arts. I mean, I believe that it is.

We think we just have a nice pants on. But we don't realize that we've invited. These skins of like, you know, we've invited something. There's something very demonic going on. Do you think technology is inherently demonic?

Oh, my God. I mean, you, it, okay.

So first, like, let's define demonic.

Okay. So what is your definition of demonic? Uh, with intent to harm to, let's see, demonic. I would say of Satan's will. Yeah.

With intent to, be a sucky bus to the godliness that, to the nature and morality and godliness that makes, that that exists inside of us as a group. And as individuals. Okay.

So does that make sense or not?

“Did you, did you have Bishop Robert Beren on your show?”

No. Cool guy. God, I have him on. BRB. Yes.

I'm dude. You guys were easy though. You guys are easy. Yeah. Yeah.

He's, he's really cool. He was a sign him up. All right, that. I, I had him on my podcast. And, uh, what's really interesting is.

Actually, having on my podcast got me more interested in Christianity than any other, any other time in my life. And the reason was not necessarily what he told me. Though, I, you know, he's a really cool guy. And like, obviously, he's like brilliant.

He's bishop and he's obviously a theologian. He's orthodox, Greek orthodox. He's Catholic. Okay. So, but.

What was really weird is, you know, I've had so many guests of all kinds of her, I've had Satanists on the podcast. I've had witches on the podcast. I've had Hindus, Buddhists, new age people. LSD Kimists.

I've had all kinds of, you know, generally. Wiggas. God's downation. I never. And you haven't?

Not yet. Bro, that's a road to go down. That's a clip. Dude, that's a clip. No, I probably have.

I have to go back and look at the catalog. That's the human eclipse. But, dude, I get it. I have one Catholic bishop on. And man, people got so mad at me.

And it was really interesting because it's like, wait a minute. What the fuck? Like, you guys didn't care when I had like, people who.

We're trying to demonize the guy while they get mad.

Well, because, like, the basically what started

bubbling up was that I moved to Texas. I'm having a bunch of fucking kids. I've become some kind of fundamentalist Christian. All this, like, I love religion. And I love Christianity.

I love like, I'm fascinated by it. And the new testament is so beautiful. And so different from what most people think it is. Like, when you sit down and actually read it yourself, if you have an idea of what Christianity is,

you realize, whatever that was, is not what this, which is to me a really thrilling moment and studying any religion. Like, if you're going to critique a religion or a philosophy,

“really, I think need to study it deeply.”

And then you can then go for it. We've got to start doing that more. I think on here is learning about some of the depths of different religions, because you see a lot of stuff online that can lead you in certain ways. But demons.

Yeah, Satan and demons. I believe that Satan is way more active than we think. I think we got into this lush period of, like, of self believing that something was taking care of us. Not that something doesn't love us.

I believe that. Yeah. But we believe that something was taking care of us that we didn't have to show up for our own, like, salvation, not just religiously,

For our own day-to-day salvation.

“Do you think that we are strong enough or care enough to save ourselves?”

Well, I mean, I hear what you're saying. And that's a really good question. Because I think you're pointing towards a misconception. Or in Buddhism, we consider a distortion. When it comes to what people think they are.

So in Buddhism, this shows up as something called Interdependency or dependent co-origination, which means that we're all connected. That the clothes that you're wearing, everything that you are, everything around you, everything is there because of

causes and conditions that created the situation that we're in. So in other words, when you ask, are we enough to save ourselves? It points to a distortion, which is we think we are an individual self disconnected from the system.

And of course, we're not enough to save ourselves. And I don't just mean in a spiritual sense. I mean, everything that we consider that we need for survival around us right now

is there because of the labor and work and energy of people you're never going to meet.

The food was hauled in on trucks. The plastic in the Fiji bottle. You're clothes, everything. Your books, the trees that grew to make the wood for your son. All of these things are a point to a complete tapestry of existence.

Meaning there isn't such a self anyway. But if you think that you're a self, then if you're foolish enough to think you're all you need, it's like, look around you. But not by, I mean, I agree.

“But do you think we are strong enough to show up and save ourselves?”

You mean as a species? As a species, because I feel like we're kind of on the brink of this place where something could happen. Or like, we're this, like, like there's, like, I don't know, it seems like darkness is trying to defeat us. Oh, yeah.

And it feels like, are we strong enough to save ourselves? Because some days it feels like maybe, and some days it feels like maybe not. Well, honest. I don't think. I think that the, I think a lot of people suffering is related to self-cherishing.

A lot of people suffering is related to being misdirected. There is a misdirective force in the universe. Bishop Baron, he was telling me, well, what is the definition of Satan? Like, what is the actual definition of Satan? What is it described as?

And he said, it is the accuser, the scatterer. That which scatters. So if we're going to come up with a definition of the demonic.

“And the question is, is like this technology demonic?”

And what's just throw the word Satan out for a second,

because that does create a knee-jerk reaction in people. A lot of people do have religious trauma for real. And I know that where it gets thrown around a lot, but some people are born in a highly abusive of households where religion is used as an excuse to fuck with their rational mind.

Or people, it's not. Right, I'm being a little bit flippin' about it. No, I don't think you're being flippin'. I think you're, I'm just, I'm, but you're as clarifying. Yeah, but, but.

So for some people, it's useful to throw out words like that. And just, you don't have to use that word. If you, I think it's a useful word. But, um, I could mean the devil, the dark energy. Whatever you want to, you know, but Satan does have like some specific definitions.

The scatterer and the accuser. That's exactly what's going on. What is technology doing? It's accusing one group or another group of being the source of all the suffering in the world. The accuser.

I've seen you. You feel accused of, you know, because of the people you have in your podcast. It's all your fucking thought dude. Look what you've done, right? But it's not just you.

Yeah. It's not just you. It's what, what technology is doing. What the algorithm seems to be doing is creating these very clear, distorted distinctions between groups of people, right?

Which is any time you have direct one-on-one contact with most people. They're awesome. They might be annoying. They might disagree with you. Might be chatty or whatever.

Chatty, but in general, they all, they're good. People want to help. Yeah. People actually really want to help. It's very sweet.

But I agree. You get Bonnie's phone and it's like, I mean, there's so much racial, like, I have, like, black friends that'll just be like, they act like they were slave.

They'll get stuff like, remember when you were a slave? It's like, yeah. I don't like, dude, Ronnie, what are you talking about? I'm like, you're dead. Work that chase bag.

Yeah. When were you a fucking slave, you were the best player on our team, dude. You got all the girls. You got all the white girls, dude. Yeah.

We'll look at all the stories. Look at all the stories. Look at all the stories. Remember when you were a slave, two some of this slave gum. And it'll say you slave.

“You'd be like, oh, remember this Richmond, Virginia gum, you know?”

Now it's like, tastes like the 1870s, you know? Dude, they're trying to replace you. Yeah. If you're white, they're trying to replace you better. You're going to be replaced.

Or, but the song groups that never get pointed at.

Well, what I'm saying is, if you look at the emergent. Like, you could call the culture wars stuff. I think you could actually identify this as a kind of religion or a larp even. It's people are larping. Because the first thing that's happening is you're being invited to take a side.

You know, if you're a black person. Okay, you, you need to be on the side of what if you want to slave gum or whatever. If you're gay, now you need to join the lgb, you're part of this movement. Right. If you're white, you're being replaced.

If you're Jewish, they're going to, the concentration camps are about to start up again. You can look and see that every single person on the planet. If you want to attach to a terrifying horrible story, you can find it. And the moment you subscribe to it, you invited in. You're algorithmal, we flooded with things to confirm your worst fears.

Giving you a sense that this is real, crystallizing the distortion. This, this is all happening in 2D space on your fucking phone. Yeah, mostly. I'm not saying that there isn't obviously real evil happening in the world right now. But this moment right now, wherever you may be, this moment right now.

Right now, it's pretty good. Right. This is the kingdom of God.

“This is what I think Jesus was talking about.”

The kingdom of God is here. Right. Now, this is why the symbol of blindness appears again and again. Saul of Tarsus, Saul of Tarsus, stoning fucking Christians, which to this day is very popular. You know, they're one of the most persecuted, it's one of those persecuted religions to this day.

And people get mad at me for saying that. But you can look it up. Oh, who Christianity? Yes. Oh, for sure, killing.

There's a lot of videos recently that you'll see it's still happening in a lot of places. Very popular. Can you bring up the Saul of Tarsus story, please? Yeah, Saul of Tarsus. It's a great story.

He became Paul. Saul of Tarsus. Thank you. Saul of Tarsus was a key observer and approving bystander at the execution of Steven,

the first Christian martyr, rather than casting stones himself.

Saul guarded the heavy cloaks of the witness as well. They carried out the stone in well. And then who did he become? Saul of Tarsus, the road to Damascus. He's walking has a vision of Christ.

Jesus says, Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me? Is that a conversion experience? The story of Saul in the road to Damascus is a pivotal event in Christian history describing Saul of Tarsus, dramatic conversion in the apostle Paul. Traveling to Damascus to arrest and persecuted Christians who was blinded by a divine light and heard the voice of Jesus.

Yeah. Now, there's a lot of interpretations of this event, who knows? But this idea of blinding Jesus, hearing the blind man, all this stuff, the blindness. This, to me, is the situation. We're kind of in a situation of blindness.

An interesting kind of blindness because the modern mind thinks that they're very clear. They think that they're seeing things very clearly. They know a sophisticated person.

“It should be worried about, you know, there's a list of things you should be worried about.”

This means you're on the right side and you're sophisticated if you're worried about the right things. Certain things, if you're worried about them, mean you're a fucking piece of shit, racist, bigoted pieces of shit. You gotta be worried about the right things. But what do they all have in common? Worried.

You need to be freaked out. You need to be worried. Scared. That bumper sticker. If you're not angry, you're not listening.

Yeah. That's one of the most satanic bumper stickers I've ever seen in my fucking life. I think the devil himself printed that shit out.

It's basically like, if you aren't angry, something's wrong with you.

You need to be angry, scared, pissed off, judgmental. Don't talk to those people. Don't look at those people. Don't think those thoughts. Everything about you's fucking wrong.

Everything about them's wrong. You've got to be in a constant, contorted state of deep, anxiety, fear, and worry. Or you are not okay. You're not a good person unless you're scared. And there should be a score now that you get to see when you meet someone.

How much time have they spent on their phone? What apps have they been on? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because it's kind of not even fair that these algorithms.

What was that? They've been trying to get it past for years now. But and that's in case is recently where meta has been held liable. There was a girl that had a lot of suicidal thoughts.

“And was I believe had an eating disorder.”

I could be wrong with that. But I was dealing with. Algorithm Accountability Act of 2025 focused on automated decisions.

Systems in critical areas jobs credit housing health education.

And this is according to perplexity. But yeah, it's like these algorithms should be held accountable. We are letting these. That's where the devil. It's like we're letting these things control because I'll watch stuff.

I'll see some clips. And if you look at one then it something else comes up. And now you're down a rabbit hole. Then you see somebody from that group. Whatever that is in real life.

Yeah. And you could have an energy towards them. That's right. I mean, they got you thinking about reparations. Yeah.

You're thinking about reparations a lot. Why? It keeps coming up on my knees. Because you're fucking algorithm is showing you this version of reality. Where there's people all over the place trying to get reparations.

Which there are probably people. There are people doing that. Yeah. But pride not as many as you think there are. Because your algorithm is just like, look, look what they're doing.

Yeah.

“So then I see like a homeless guy and he's like, hey, can I get a book?”

I'm like, okay. Oh, reparations. Yeah. reparations. And that's just because you're you're writing.

You're contaminating yourself. We all have it. I have it to everyone else. Everyone has it. But that's a thing.

Are we is there enough space to rise up? Is there enough space to rise above it?

I think here's the thing.

We have to believe that there is. And envision a possibility that where there is. All the wise there isn't. So that's one thing. Definitely.

But dude, even just to fake AI stuff. Just to make things a little softer to soften up the conversation. Yeah. Let's soften it up. What's a fake AI story?

Oh, did you see? What was one brain? I think I put it on the list of, it's in my, it's in my. Oh, yeah. There was this girl.

Oh, yeah. Kaylee. This was the lawsuit. She had. She argued that features like infinite scrolling auto play.

Algorithm recommendations and beauty filters were engineered to make users engage compulsively. True. Well, breaks my hearts sometimes. I don't know who breaks my heart, but it kind of makes me.

I don't know. It makes me mad that I got to sit with some of these guys. And they act like there's no crime in their algorithms. They act like there's no like, like evil goals behind it. All right.

And I think it's obvious that anybody can see where we're headed isn't a great place. So do you think some of these technocrats just don't have a moral compass? There's something must be wrong. Oh, dude. I mean, that's a whole.

That's a deep fucking rabble. Okay. Because you're talking about like the Galapagos Islands, right? Weird creatures there because they're separated from everything else, right? So when we're talking about the Silicon Valley tech overlords.

We're talking about a weird kind of Galapagos island where you've got the set group of people who've been there for a while. Who have been engineering the technology that is now being used for mass surveillance, for blowing up Palestinians, for fucking exploding parts of the world, and for hypnotizing children into like being glued to the fucking technology, right? And so you're looking at like essentially a warlock skill. These are the wizards of the world.

They are summoning spirits via AI. A lot of them were into the occult. You can look that shit up. And regardless, I think there's public records of some of them is saying that they use BF Skinner, the behaviorists work. And he was the guy who could make like Pigeon's tap dance and shit. They coded that into the algorithm.

The same stuff they use for slot machines and stuff. Yeah. So these are wizards, illusionists. So dude, it's like, do they know what they're doing? Yes, they're making addictive technologies.

Can they say that's what they were doing? Hell no. Do you think it's a unified goal or do you think they all just happen to each have these things going on? And that's where we are. Dude, I think that... And I'll come on.

I want to come on y'all show them who go on this rabbit hole. I love to. I listen to man. I think we're going to get into some stuff. This is what I do know before you get in the soft stuff. I do know this Zuckerberg apparently doesn't let his kids on the fucking computer.

Apparently a lot of these tech people keep their kids off social media. I think I asked him about that, didn't I? What did he say?

“I think I said, do you, do your kids use social media?”

Regardless, they have strict fucking guardrails for their kids using social fucking media. And that is interesting to me. It's like if this shit's okay. What's going on? Yeah, I think let's check and see.

I'll find out in just a second.

I think we asked him about that. But yeah, this was, this was one thing I was saying about this. Like, I remember watching this, right? I think this was the last year a little bit. But this is called Brain Bridge, right? Play this clip.

This is going to blow your mind.

“A startup company called Brain Bridge announced today that they believe that they will be able to successfully perform a head transplant surgery in the next eight years.”

The way that this would work is you would take a person with a perfectly healthy and active brain. But their body has cancer or paralysis and transplant it to a brain dead donor body, which crazy is that they said that by doing this, the person that's receiving the new body would still be able to maintain their memories, cognitive abilities, and consciousness. They say that the brain could last several hundred years if it had a good working body. And that might be a potential in the future. But this would also give people different ailments a second chance.

Wow. I mean, but this came out, and I remember a guy sent it to me. I'm not going to say who it was, but kind of like a certain type of person. Yeah. Send it to me from Birmingham or whatever.

And he's like, man, this is scary. You know, and I'm like, that's not real man. I'm saying, but it's stuff like this that we think like, you know, and then you probably have like spouses, like a woman. She's like, oh, you're six more, you know, six more birthday cakes.

“And because it said like six years, it'll be happening, right?”

Yeah. Six more birthday cakes and my, you know, I'm going to have Denzel Washington and my kitchen or whatever. Or I'm going to have, you know, the bait, you know, my husband's going to look like the baby or whatever. You're going to have like a seventy five year old guy with like a body that's like looks like a fucking So fucked up. Okay, California raised an end to babies head like it's just going to, so, but that's that's a I stuff, you know, that's the things that people believes.

Not real. I've been what that. You know what, A, I've been showing me a lot of fake honey Badger content videos like nature videos looks real like honey Badgers like fighting elephants and horses. A lot of AI videos of like, um, Well, yeah, but people are now generating very good AI video of like honey Badgers fighting shit and I was watching them for a while before I realize that's not real like because I love honey Badgers. It's a, it's a different subject altogether. But, um, a lot of these are fake is fuck or the hippos spin in their tails and shitting off, you know, they do in that blast and tigers away and stuff.

That's a lot of those are fake. Are they really? I mean, it's insidious. It's at that level, too. It's not just head trained like elephant shits on birthday party or whatever. Look, go on Instagram and look up like hippo defending itself and I'm pretty sure a lot of these are AI. I don't want it to be AI. I want it to be real. But if you look up any hippo, it's a whole genre now of hippos shitting on various predators. Yeah, if you guys can bring some of those up, we'll get right back to them. Dude, oh, yeah, I saw this in you today. Hot air balloons are you being used for sex trafficking and that was an AI thing.

That's so sweet. And that was an AI thing. It's so fucked up. So now it's like, well, you take one of the most beautiful, like people are wasn't got hot air balloon race and there's some grandmother being like, you know, there's a nun, you know, it's a kid bounding gag in the past. Get into that balloon, get in shipped off to some fucked up island. That's so, everything beautiful, you know, brothels on the moon kids being transported in hot air balloons. They're ruining everything.

But then they'll start to, but then also what'll happen then is this is then this, this piece starts to happen. They take a fake story like that, right? Like the kids being sex trafficking, you know, like in hot air balloons, which is crazy.

Like, like for how many people can even fit 100 million probably six to eight.

A lot of kids. That's true. Probably four to 10.

“I don't know. I think you get 20 in there.”

I don't want to know. We could talk of it. Yeah, we're joking. Yeah, we're joking. We're joking.

But dude, we are joking. Yeah. Jesus Christ was joking.

But then here's what happens is they put the story out, right?

Yeah. Again, they become this lobbying towards the government, like now somebody's lobbying for, we need to train officers, we need specifically trained officers who know how to fly hot air balloons so that they can be look out for this thing. And it becomes one of those Somali welfare things where it's just a money laundering thing. But it's all based off of, we'll look at the story out first, create the fear, create the worry. Then let's find this other big financial solution that we, and do all the training and all the bullshit.

Yeah. So we have something to invoice the American government or any government for. And then the people, our tax money just goes to another thing. Now we have 700, you know, trained like hot air balloon surveillance technology. I'm sorry. I don't think you realize what you just did.

But you have come up with like an incredible series on like NBC hot air balloon like cop chasing sex predators through the skies.

Ooh. Dude, that's an incredible show. Thank you.

Dude, imagine you're ducking down in your basket. Yeah. You get a new partner. You do that heat thing you turn it up. Dude, I would watch that all day long.

That's an incredible idea.

But yeah, you're right. It creates a chain reaction and essentially just shit tons of money gets wasted on something fabricated by like, a couple of like teenagers in Morocco. Yeah. And you don't hurt wherever.

I don't know. I said, you know, but then they honor him at a football game. It's like, and there's Harold Arthur the third. He did 17 years in the hot air balloon surveillance squad. Yeah.

Give him a round of applause. Yeah. Yeah, man. It's, you're right. And dude, but they used to have, I remember they had this girl in our school and her dad and

his friend, I guess they were kind of gay man or whatever. And they would, they were hot air balloon guys, but they would go up and kind of kiss whatever, like it would lock like whatever, meet up in this, like not meet up.

I guess meet up in the sky or whatever, you know.

Or just like locked their, you know, tie their balloons off to each other.

“How does that wouldn't the, like, it's like wouldn't the balloons themselves bump into each other?”

I think there's ways you can do that. Because that is like if you're going to like create sort of a spectrum of gay. What's to hide? They were scared to get seen around town. Do you love a lot? Like making out with another dude in a separate hot air balloon is that's.

That's gay. It's brave gay, though. It's brave. Pound. Brave gays.

How was that in a show? That's the name of the show. That's it. They're gay hot air balloon cops. This is the next pro back mountain.

Do we have a beat of it here? Do you say anything? I think that that's a big part of it. I try to, like, it's important to me that the kids get that too. And the kids are very active. Do your kids have a lot of like screen time, like how much screen time do you allow your kids?

Yeah. It's different for the different ones. We don't just like let them do whatever. But I actually like want them to be fluent with the stuff. And that kind of like we talked about earlier.

You know, I want them to learn how to code kind of use technology. I think it's important. But he's not saying what's in the use it. He's saying what's the new how to code and use technology. I want them to be able to create the mind traps that I've created.

I want them to be able to build manipulative seductive technologies so that they can lure other children into my trap that will inevitably control the entire planet.

But I would never show them that the fucking him know where I take all.

I mean dude. It's giving that dude a lot. Is there any more tutor that's it? It's a long answer to a simple question. Right.

He could just be like, yeah, I put him on it all the time. There's a lot of socialization. They have their own account. Absolutely. Like happens online at this point.

Like people need to get used to the norms and stuff around that. So I mean, they're not on. They're still too young to be using like social media. But they have messenger kids. You know, we we make it so that they can video chat and chat with their friends.

And you know, we'll obviously monitor to make sure that they're. That they're just connecting with the people who we think that they should. But like I think it's actually good. I think people need to kind of grow up. I don't need to as strong.

“But I think is I think it's good if you have an engaged parent.”

And they, um, and as a child, you learn up, you, you kind of grow up. I'm learning how to use a bunch of the stuff. So that's okay. That's all good. I want the kids to the extent that they're interested in it to learn how to code.

Learn how to create stuff. Whether it's in like horizon or VR tools or they play, you know, Roblox and Minecraft. Roblox. Did he just say fucking play Roblox?

Look up, look up Roblox. Pet affiliate. Oh, is that where they're doing it? Dude. Dude, this is like the new rest areas.

Remember, rest areas? Look at Roblox. Yes. Roblox is currently the subject of heavy scrutiny, including investigations. The lawsuits from US state attorneys, local governments reports highlighting that predators

exploit its massive demographic of young users for grooming and sexual exploitation. Yeah. Don't put your fucking kids on Roblox. Or, like, man, I'm telling you, like, people need to understand that.

“Dude, do you remember, like, did you ever like dig around for your dad's porn?”

I remember digging in a hole. Somebody said there was porn somewhere, like not far from us and we dug. Dude, we dug. As kids, we probably dug fucking 11 feet into the dirt. We didn't find a pirate.

Various porn out there. That's what black period. We didn't find it. Dude, you just remember that. We did find like a CPAT machine though.

But go on, dude. My point is, we all know that kids, when they know, like, just based on, like, the experience of anybody

Yeah.

You would find your dad's porn.

Yeah. He could put that shit, like, in a sewer. He could put that stuff. Right. He could keep it under his hat.

You would get it. Yeah. So, like, the idea that Zuckerberg's throwing out there, which is, like, you can, like, monitor your kids. It's number one, dude.

Are you fucking kidding? A lot of people don't have time to do that. They, and they don't understand this tech. It could be really dangerous for children. Oh, yeah.

They don't have time to monitor. Number two, the fact that he's recommending Roblox, which is you just pulled up, is currently being investigated right now. That's because, is he, dude. That's crazy.

He just told everyone watching your show. He's like, "But your kids on Roblox!" Like, you know how fucked up that is? I don't think he intended to do that. Well, it was a past episode.

It's probably one year ago. Yeah, right.

“But still, I think if, I don't know, dude.”

They know that pedophiles is going on on there. Like, they have to know what's going on, dude. And for years, there wasn't even a blockage. I don't think, between adults and kids messaging each other.

Which would be the first fucking thing.

So, part of me starts to question, do some of these tech lords. Dude, they want pedophilia to be a thing that exists in our universe. I mean, let me answer that question. Dude, this is the deal. If you're making--

We need to get asked a kid. If you're making a, a, a, a, a, a plow. Like, how much is money worth? In other words, let's just say, you feel fine. And then it didn't happen.

And you found out that somehow children were being abused through your app. You know what you do? Shut it down. Shut it down.

Shut it down. Fuck down. And apologize. On that day. And, and, and, and reparations.

That's your reparations. That's your reparations. That's what you do. You don't keep something going that allows children to be abused.

“The question is, how much, how much is your mansion worth to you?”

Well, here's the thing.

Here's the thing, Duncan.

I agree with you. But people keep saying it's about money. If you want, it's not about money anymore. It couldn't be about money. If you have a lot of money, it's not about money anymore.

It becomes about the next currency. Right. So other currencies are power. And then some of the currencies, it's like, you get to be the king. And then the king turns into a, I think after king is a devil.

Oh, yeah. I think it's right on the other side of being a king is a being a devil. Because there's, there's, you know what I'm saying? Like it's like everything's just a circle. So if you're at the, if you're a king, then right after it is devil.

Yeah. I mean, you just have to deal with the fact that the technology you create is being used to distribute child pornography and it's hurting children. And then whether you, the rest of your life should be spent stopping that from happening. Not getting taken to court to make that happen.

“You should just stop it because you make the question these guys a lot to.”

Well, you know, human sacrifice, especially the sacrifice of children is an age old practice. And just because like the energy is being extracted from children using a brand new technology doesn't change the fact that the, this technology is harming children. And we're not saying that Facebook is doing that, but we're he just saying that Roblox has accusations about that. And then it's obvious that.

I mean, you can look, I mean, again, I don't. I've been probably instances of adults come in during children's sexually on Facebook. Obviously, I can't say with the authority of some of the people doing the investigations. Or what's happening, but I will say that if you don't think that social media and online games is being used by predators to fuck with your kids, you are a dipshit. You're out of your mind, what are you fucking doing? And also, might I just add, and I know we're supposed to light things up.

When you're posting pictures of your fucking kids in bathing suits and bathing suits are no shirts. You look, and you can look at who's favorite in those pictures. If 60% of those are like dudes in their forties. Yeah. What are you doing? What are you doing? Well, that's when you start to realize that we, like, there's this vortex that you start to get manipulated by.

And that we're being manipulated. It's like watching a belly dance or dance. And next, you know, you're giving all your money. And if you give all your money, you'll give her your, or give her your organs. You'll give her your offspring. You'll give her whatever it is. And you don't even notice you're giving any more. You're not even getting anything out of it anymore. You're just tricked in a giving everything all the way.

That's right, Tim. You said it. Praise the Lord. Throw your fucking phones. Oh, yeah. This is great. Let's watch this. This is a light and things up. It's hippos shedding on animals. Oh, yeah. I mean, we all did, we all, like, if we didn't, oh. It's not. I don't think that's. And now this end look dude. And they'll probably, they'll accuse the animal of doing black face or whatever.

I don't know, but this is the kind of stuff that it breaks my heart.

“Because he's poses like he sits like he wanted to get shit on. Like it's not real, right?”

It breaks your heart. It looks real. He's pissed. But in that sheet is pregnant, bro. He's probably like, I know where to get some lunch and he's full of that. It's got to be fake. And this is a whole genre of hippos shedding on, on jag wars. Yeah, bro. Don't come on my back and tell me it's raining, brother. Why did he sit there? Like, why, it's like he--

Because it's the old, hey, let's give you some lunch. I'm a shit on your trick. Okay. That's the old thing, bro. Battle class. Um, what else do we have? What other AI things are out there? There's some other AI things that were fake over their other AI things in the news.

Or what else could we talk about? Is there something else on your mind you want to talk about? On my mind? Yeah. Right now. Um, yeah, man. Do you feel hope as a parent? That's a question. Is there a kid if I ask you that? Do you feel hope as a parent? I'm knowing seeing a lot of these open vortexes of the devil that are operating around us.

And how we are being like summoned to dance for them like the brooms and fantasies. Like, but do you-- and none of this is accusatory like, I have the same stuff. I'm like, you know, I try to battle it and it's probably easier because I've less responsibilities than you do as a parent. But it's like, um, we're all fighting this thing.

Yeah. Yeah. I-- I-- I will never stop loving existence.

And I have-- I know that people are good. In Buddhism it's called the fundamental goodness that underneath the fear is goodness. And when you're around a baby, when you're around your kids, you get to see that. You get to see a brand new human before the windshield gets covered in splattered fear bugs that begin to define their personality. And as a parent, you can't keep those bugs from splattering on the windshield.

That's going to-- that's going to happen. But you also can, like, maybe you can at least help them understand that love is eternal. They-- that love is eternal that we're embraced by the universe, that benevolence, kindness, all the things that are taught in Christianity and many of the world religions. These ways of being will are not affected by technology, by AI, by all of the things that inevitably are coming down the line.

This-- this way-- the actual term for-- she was a diver, it's called Sonotan Darm, it means the eternal way or the eternal path. This path, it doesn't fucking matter if there's cyborgs walking down the path. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

“And I think that's the most important thing to remember is that this-- what we were today were calling the Satan.”

Satan is depends on us building up that energy. And making it big, scary. This is described as like it's the monster under the bed. It's darkness. Darkness is-- all you have to do is flip on the light. Amen. Gone.

Instantly gone. And so the more I think we focus on that darkness and all of its complexity and all of its seeming sophistication.

And all of its tricks and deviousness and deception, the more powerful it becomes.

The moment you just turn into the present moment and your own heart and the people you love, it's like a light turns on. Well, I think we need astronauts too. So now it's going to the darkness, man. And we need astronauts to go in there and find the switches too. You know, I think since we need that, I think sometimes it does feel--

sometimes we are too like-- there's like-- and a lot of times in Christianity, they talk about acceptance a lot, acceptance and-- You know, in a lot of religious, they talk about acceptance. Yes, and it's like-- you can do that in some ways. But also part of you is like--

“But when do you like really stand-- you know what I'm saying?”

When do we stand up? Because we're creatures with legs. Yeah. You know, when do we stand up and not just accept everything? And maybe that's the phase that we're in now.

And then part of me, like-- I've talked about my friend Curtis the other day and like-- We talk about religion a lot and things like that and it's-- And he was saying that it doesn't really matter if you win here in the world. Right? If the world wins, if we win as a society here, it matters in the-- in the afterlife, in the next realm.

And like, you know what I'm saying? Like, this is just a practice ground for your spirit. Like to see how you operate a spirit. It's almost like when you did like school driving or whatever you go. And there was some guy who was, again, obviously a pedophile usually who would get to teach at a drop.

Because he wouldn't let him coach him where they took away his whistle. And so he's fucking sitting there. Just squeezing your thigh. But he's in there squeezing your thighs. Like, if I squeeze your left thigh, means turn left of us.

Squeeze your right.

So I was just going, like, in circles, dude.

This motherfucker was just massaging me or whatever. Just fucked me up, man. But it's just like, yeah. But it's like, is-- Or do you think it, man?

Because sometimes I care too much. I feel like if we win here as a people, as opposed to like, if I, like, as opposed to like, best curing the meat of my soul for the next, like, refrigerator or meal or... Sharkudery board of existence.

Sharkudery board of existence. It's very poetic. I know what you mean. I just think, you know, that the move is, you look at this thing. And now you're worrying about literally all of humanity.

Right. How do I fix all of humanity? That's a very anxious place. It's an anxious place. It's not fair to yours.

It's not fair to us. You can't. It's not your job.

“And I think that doesn't mean you should be some kind of”

impudent pseudo-spiritual person who isn't actively trying to make the world better.

But since you're the first part of the world doing counter,

how much time are you spending seeing if you can reduce your own fear and anxiety and increase your ability to have compassion and love for the people that you encounter throughout the day. And, you know, if enough of us do that,

and that is not easy, by the way. Right. But it's incremental. You don't do it all one day, but you can do it small things. You never know.

I mean, I think if we're going to use the Bibles of Reference for the conversation, doesn't the story go and Jesus sent out the disciples. He said, don't worry about what you're going to say. I will speak through.

And if your message is not accepted, leave and knock the dust from your feet, which is really just saying, 'Cause in a moment, trust, trust, don't let this darkness trick you into getting all freaked out and angry,

'cause when you're angry, you'll say angry words. But this is a terrible way to ruin whatever the fuck I'm saying. If you ever gotten an argument on MDMA, if you ever said a single shitty thing to someone when you're on ecstasy,

“now this is, I think, a way, there's might be a way.”

I'm not saying beyond ecstasy all the time, imagine if somehow you could cultivate that part of yourself that shows up on a nice MDMA tab, if you could cultivate that, and Buddhism, that's called Bodhi Chita,

and it's the awakened heart. If you could cultivate that, then whatever came out of your mouth, whatever you did, theoretically, would be much better than what you do when you're angry,

freaked out and scared and pissed off.

So maybe the first step is to take more ecstasy,

which brings me to a plug for my new business. Trustful MDMA, go to trustful, I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding. Trustful MDMA Church Wafers too, that would be the best hit. No, I just feel like, you know,

the idea is, as much as you can, cultivate compassion in your own heart. The last thing I noticed too, I just go on a walk with a friend. When Saul was walking,

was he walking alone out there? That's a great question, I don't know. Can you look that up with Saul was on the road to where's the Damascus? The Damascus.

I'm guessing alone. No, Saul. Oh, I did go, this is awesome. No, Saul was not alone. He was traveling to the Damascus,

according to the biblical account in Acts 9. He was accompanied by a group of traveling companions to a rendered speeches by the heavenly light and sound. Yeah, I saw it.

Wow. So, yeah, I think, I don't know, I just, there's nothing on you and more of these days about that honestly going on a walk with a friend or something like that.

You know, you seem great. I do. You do. Thanks, man. Yeah, you're energy's really like,

you've got, like, you've got, what's the word where they call it now? You're aura. I don't know what my kid, the other day, it's so funny when they start saying,

like, kid insults. And it's a brutal insult. He was talking about Saul. He's like, they're aura's chopped. Damn.

Have you heard that? Yeah, someone said that. Chopped aura. Your aura's not chopped right now. Someone called me chopped on one time.

Someone drove by and called me f*** it one month ago. What? For no reason. Where? Where?

Because I had two bags of fucking shopping clothes. Are you kidding me? Yeah, I know I bought a lot. But still, yeah. Yeah, dude.

“It was just because I think it was crazy.”

I think because I was, like, tying my shoe, but I've been over, like, at the hit. I get the hip instead of, like, kind of squatted down. That's fucked up. That's crazy.

That's crazy. That's crazy. It's crazy. Because I, like, bent, like, fully dead. Just 'cause, like, yeah, I get it.

But it's like, God, just say it. Roll the window up into say to yourself. That's a rare experience for, right?

Yeah.

How often does that happen to you?

Uh, I don't know, dude. But I put stuff out in the world that didn't need to be out there, dude. Dude, when we were kids, we were right. This is horrible to say. And this crazy, crazy way to end this conversation.

Thank you for the compliments, dude. I am in a space where I'm trying to ask myself a few more questions. Instead of just take how I feel. I'm like, what's this feeling trying to show me? Yeah.

You know, like, okay, if I'm angry, why?

“Like, okay, what do I, what do I, what do I get by being angry right now?”

I'm just trying to question a little bit more about what's going on. But when I, yeah, dude, when I we used to do, this was kind of messed up. We would, like, write that. And we might take this out. We used to write the inward on a piece of paper, right?

To get it out of our system. And we would put it into a bottle, like a message in a bottle. And then we throw 'em in this river, not far from our house. Throw 'em off this bridge off into this river.

And then the craziest part was, dude.

Like a couple months later, we're over at the park, which is like a mile from where we're throwing 'em off, dude. We see a dad and his kid fight, pick up a fucking pick up one of these bottles. And he, the kid opens it up. And so sad.

And the dad's like, what is this saying? We're just like, oh, bro. We gotta find a better way to dispose of these things. There's a racist dude ship wrecked around here. [laughter]

So, dude, we live in a learned man. That's what we do. You can live and learn in one of the best possible ways.

“Dude, this honestly, the most fun conversation I probably had in a year and a half.”

Oh, that means the world to me, Theo. That's a truth. That's a truth. I love talking with you, man. It's such a joy.

Thanks for having me on this show. It's a truth. You bet, dude. I'm gonna come on mystery boys. I wanna go down a rabbit hole, so we gotta, we gotta procure a nice one.

Oh, yeah. And, uh, you can check out mystery boys, um, with the good.

“We know he works for good, Kurt Metzker.”

I would argue saintly. Okay, saintly. Saint Metzker, dude. Saint Metzker. I'll go for it.

Yeah. Done in trouble. Thanks so much, bro. Thanks for having me on. I really appreciate it, Theo.

Yeah, thanks for watching, guys. Now, I'm just fucking on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves, I must be cornerstone. Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this piece of mine I found. I can feel it in my bones. Though it's gonna take.