#669 - Riley Green

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Just a reminder, you can watch video versions of our episodes on Spotify, as well if you didn't know that. I had a time with today's guest. I'm glad that he brought the humor Mr. Riley Green. It's nice when I get home, too, to get on a bulldozer or something. Most relaxed and thing in the world.

Yeah, get on a bulldozer and go out there and start clearing a road. I need to realize how far you've been, so you get off it to walk back to your car. But it's just pushing trees over and clearing fields. God. Just root.

Yeah. It's that the animals are like here. Come to Aunt Look. We love his music, but this guy's. Yeah, that's pretty fair. Of course, I'm making a field. I'm going to plant some food for a man. Okay, so some of it's just rezoning for them.

Yeah, that's all. It's just, yeah, it's like, look, guys, we're kind of... I'm not going to put a parking lot or Kmart there. It's going to be like, you know, there's a field. Yeah.

I'll leave him some shade trees, it's fine. Sorry, man. Yeah, I'm acting like you're the bad guy. I was like, but you made me the developer on Fern Golly. It's like burning the woods down. Like, I'm not doing, I'm making it nicer.

Like, I dug a lake through somewhere from the swim. Oh, really? Yeah, man. Oh, God, that'd be beautiful. You made me the man. Yeah, dude, I freaking, yeah, I made you the bad guy.

You made me like the bad guy on the, let's see, we've with the blue people. Avatar. Yeah, you made me that guy. Oh, it's like just destroying the forest. I mean, I'm like making it nicer for the animals.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're done there, repurp, yeah, man. God, I got it. I got to get in prayer. I got to get in the word.

I mean, you got it. What you got to do is get on the bulldozer. Yeah, you got on down there and get on the tractor. You figured your life out down there doing that. Do you?

What do you do?

“What is your thing that you say is your biggest disconnect?”

I guess disconnect from all this. What do you do? I don't know. It's a problem, right? I don't have an immediate answer.

I would probably say, I would say, probably working out of going for a walk, probably. Okay, well, that's definitely one of them, but like you're still thinking about. Yeah. You're still in it, you know what I mean?

Yeah, I mean, if I go for a walk with a good friend, that's more like just kind of like contemplating discuss and stuff. But I agree, having some having like, it's time for me to kind of like, find some other outlets and stuff, you know? And I just got off a tour and so that's like,

this is one of the first times where it's like,

who am I? What do I do with myself? Oh, both of them. Who am I? And what do I do with myself?

Not in a whiny way, but it's just like kind of hit me like that. It's like, okay, so it's time for me to like kind of embrace some of those.

“But just so people know, I think we started in.”

You said you have like, you guys got a couple thousand acres down there, you know? I bought, I've got 1,780 right now that all touches. But I bought it in like little pieces here. Every time I go down there, I'm calling my neighbors up.

See if anybody wants to sell anything. But I'm not going to any buffers. Brother, Monko Bill had some property that I grew up running around on. It was 141 acres and I bought that first. And then just since then, I've grown it.

And it's just a never ending project.

When you go out there, I'll go home and it kind of keeps me sane on the road too. Because I'd be thinking about, man, when I get home, I'm going to take the D3 over here and clear this one field off and make this road around. Outside of the property. So I can go in here and I'm going to dig a lake over here.

So you're just constantly creative. Because there's, I mean, everything you do is making the land more viable. Right. So, and you have a crew that does that with me. My dad and his brother used to frame houses.

My dad was a carpenter and he's 70 now.

So I let them work around in the farm and just run trackers.

“And they love that kind of work and I got a couple of buddies.”

I used to do construction work with it, helped me out out there.

So there's always something going on.

But when I get home, like, you know, when you get on a tractor like that, you're not having a phone. I mean, you forget about it, you know? Oh, yeah. And then going out there and you get caught up in what you're doing.

And I've always enjoyed the kind of work where you can see what you did at the end of the day. I love that about construction work. But that's something you don't get in what we do. Like, yeah, there's a lot of accolades and big moments and hives out of it. But as far as, like, what we do never has an end.

You never finished with what we're doing. Like, there's a little thing she's talking with that went well. Check or go to the next thing. But like, being on tours, you know, my tour to the end. We just tour till holidays, get here and people stop coming to shows.

And we start back around February, you know? So it's nice to have something that you can finish. Amen. Yeah, yeah. And just to locate, like, just like, looking back, seeing something.

The day is done. The sun, you know what I'm saying? Like, you can feel the evening coming in. Like, okay, that's time. Yeah, I used to work on a, on a soybean farm over there.

And, you're like, Vadale, you're Louisiana. Right over on the Louisiana Mississippi border there. And that was, those are some of the best days, man. It was tough work. But you like, I still go back and frame a little bit with my buddy.

Don't have just to remind myself of what it was like. Yeah, dude. I love whether they had me painting or just like, moving seed or just like, cleaning spray rig just whatever it was, man. It there was just something like, yeah, there was something real rewarding about it.

Well, you could also, like, I could be hung over whatever it was and be having a bad day. And I could get through a day of work doing that.

“But this, you have to be happy every day.”

Yeah. If you gotta at least act like you are. Oh, you gotta show up. I can't get on stage and, you know, be up. So I gotta be enjoying myself because everybody's there to see me.

And they want to see that. So it's, uh, it's nice to be able to go over and kind of cut loose on something like that. Well, look, welcome to this podcast, dude.

Because I've spent probably at third of my life wine and on this bench about stood.

So I go on with you. Yeah. We won't complain about it. Yeah, dude. I know one thing I'm going to complain about on this podcast.

You have no coffee maker here. I don't know if I'm sending you on. I'm sending you on. I'm just going, I want to ride here. You're in my kitchen.

Yeah. So I don't have one. I looked. I looked. I looked at every closet in your house.

I was like, you know, there's not one here. Look through all your stuff. See, look, I ain't making coffee in the closet. I'm going to do anything in the closet, dude. I'm out.

But yeah, the last thing I'd be doing in there, dude. If I'm in the closet, it's so long that I'm making coffee in there. It's in a while, yeah. Yeah, I guess I'd be. But sometimes you have a tough time picking out an outfit or whatever.

And I just say outfit. Let's keep moving. Sure. Yeah. It really is a shirt.

What made you pick that one today? I tried on another one. I took it downstairs. It was just as a little, thought a little more formal. And then I was right.

I felt like that. I see I took it like you were that because I was coming. Well, I appreciate it. I feel it. Right, man.

Dude, you remember? I saw you. Good to see you, man. Yeah. We're doing this interview backwards.

Thanks for coming out. Yeah, dude. This is how it goes in here. By the way, I'm Riley Green. Yeah.

Ladies and gentlemen, Riley Green. It's past weekend. Thanks for coming, bro. I appreciate it. I'm doing it for a while.

Yeah, we had been. And this is good, man. I saw you. Remember, I went to your surprise party. You remember that?

Yeah, but I don't think you're invited. Yeah.

“I think you came in and got a piece of cake in the last, honestly.”

It's what happened. Okay, that could be true. But I remember though. Like you weren't in a thing. Yeah, I don't think it's a surprise party.

Yeah. I don't like surprises. Yeah. I always. Because I walked in.

I don't know if you're a sister. Somebody's like, you know, someone's over there. Losers will be like, yeah, you know, it's a Riley's surprise party. You know, we got to go. We're good.

We're good. Sometimes like it happens a lot. That was one time. That's good point. Yeah.

We'll never have it again.

But sometimes you'll be there. And they're like, this is going on there. So we got to. So people will make like the, um, the Mac or whatever the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

you know, the journey over to your bar, which is right next door. Yeah. What you had to go on the back door. Yeah, sneak up to back. I'll come to the back.

But you were heading in. So they're like, yeah, it's a surprise party. Don't say nothing. I'm like, I'm not saying nothing. I only, no, not good.

You know. And then we all walked in and we all surprised. We all thought you did. You're my surprise party. Yeah.

I thought you playing the whole thing. I thought I was in it. I've, I've given my minutes picked out the cake. You know, it was great. I mean, you ate some of it.

I took two pieces. I took two pieces. I took two pieces. I'm sorry. You, okay, this is no joke.

You literally got invited to my podcast. My, uh, surprise party last minute. Walk in, take two pieces of cake and leave. Yeah. That's what happened.

Okay. That's cool. Well, we got in there. I was like, well, she hit it. If he don't even want to be at a surprise party, then I'm going to get my,

I'm going to head home. I just don't need to be surprised to enjoy something like, for me, I don't get to see my family and friends that often travel in all the times. If you gather to everybody, just tell me. Yeah.

We'll go over there and we'll do a bit of nothing there. Yeah.

I'll give my manager to our time because I want to ACM award in 2020.

“And they call me and they're like, hey, you need to zoom with the label.”

And so I don't have computers. I go over to their place and they get it all set up. And there's my president, my label and the vice president everybody. And I'm like, I will be talking about it. And then Keith everyone comes up and I'm like, oh, you're early.

I'm like, hey, he's like, you want to come to, what are you doing on August 8th? Whatever you want to come to the ACM award. And I'm like, yeah. And why's he asking you? Because he was the host, I guess.

But my point is, why didn't they just tell me? And I could have been like, oh, like, surprised a lot. He knows all these articles about how Rally Green won. They see him award and couldn't care less. Because I just was confused.

Yeah. So just get, you know, I can't surprise. But yeah, tell me about it. Yeah, tell me a little earlier. Yeah.

If you tell me 10 minutes early, I'll just be like, yeah. I'll be like, oh, yeah. That was good. I believe that. You did.

How you looked when I got there. That was pretty good. How you looked when I walked in. Oh, there you're coming. What about me?

You're trying to schedule this. This is really stressful for everybody involved. You know what? Everybody my team's like, so are you doing? I was like, hey, I don't know.

I think we just said we should do this. Well, we were supposed to do it.

Here's what was happening.

We did. You and I decided we're going to do it. Yeah. Your schedule also got different because you now or had not to Alec is you're working on the voice now.

Yeah. So that started to happen. And then there was supposed to be supposed to have kind of a Gregory system beyond. And there was this looming moment where it was like.

You pick for no. I didn't. His schedule was super tough. His. You know, you can lie to me for the sake of this.

Oh, I'd lie to you. Yeah. But I just soon tell you the truth. It's just right now. It's easier.

Okay. But there's just like a lot of little moving parts. If he comes while I'm here, you're going to make me leave and come to the top. Yep.

Maybe you'll bring coffee.

“Honestly, if he comes and realize you don't have coffee, he might”

leave. Bro, I didn't know you said this much stuff.

I always feel like you're kind of a quiet guy.

Man, that's my bad read on you. You know. I used to talk a lot when I got coffee. You know, I suppose you're fading your sin. What?

So you want me to do it? The interview. What? No, I got to think. Okay.

I don't know if you like studied up or whatever. Yeah, man. I studied up dude. I got a good plan. Yeah, I got a strategy ahead of me.

You know, it's mild, but it is what it is. Listen, if you start to run out of stuff, just give me the. And I'll. Okay. Here on there.

Yeah, dude. Yeah, if I need some help, I'm definitely. I'll be nice. I get a little help from Raleigh Green. Everything's good.

Everything's pretty good, man. What was I doing this one? I was texting a John party this morning. He's like that dude. He's going out on tour.

He interesting guy. I'm a big fan of him for a long time. You meet voice like everything's a bit just kind of like an interesting guy.

He, he, I've always used him as an example.

When I started to record deal and started having songs on the radio,

“I think the toughest thing to do is to be commercial enough that radio play it.”

And then also still unique and cool enough that it's a good song and not just cheesy. He's always done a good job with that. He's got a lot of, a lot of big songs. A great man. Yeah, he's an authentic dude, man.

And he said, I mean, I didn't know you put pictures up. People weren't talking about him. He's an interesting guy. I've got a picture of me open and form and mobile. He's a man with a soul kitchen from like 2006.

Is that where you started out with me? I mean, I was a bit at the soul kitchen. Is that like a pot? Is that a popular spot I'm not familiar with it? It's on Dolphin Street.

I mean, yeah. It's like one of the clubs you come up playing. It was a big deal for me to play it. I opened for Chris Kagle there. Corey Smith there.

John Party several people and eventually I got where I was headlining it. Then moved to the singer and then went down and played to the floor. That singer's nice over there. It was cool. Yeah.

Did you play that floor, Bama during the spring break time? I played floor Bama for ever. $150 a show played for four hours. You get one free drink per break. Yeah.

And he played 45 minutes of the time. And I remember John McGinnis did always the floor. Bama was a good buddy of mine. And he asked me to come down and play during spring break every day for three weeks. It was like Alabama spring break one week.

I wish you one week. You know, the LSU folks love it up there. Oh, they love it. Anywhere dude. Anywhere where something is fermented enough where they can make alcohol out of it.

It's fermented down there. They love it. And I had to set him on 10 up on the beach. And it was like, I'd be in the shade for about an hour. And then I have to move it.

You know, nobody down there listening to me. And I played every day from twelve to four. You play under a tent on the beach. Like a tent you can't with like a, you know, a tailgate tent. Yeah.

And I had to set him on speakers up and everything. I played from twelve to four every day. And then I would go back to the riverhouse across the river. They would keep the bands band would come in and play that night. And I would go party with them.

And I did that every day for three weeks. And it about killed me. I haven't played for ten years off my life. Playing at early shift. We had then staying up all night too.

I would like mosey down to the beach and get there and time to play it. And then next day. I'll be 40 in that man dude. Oh, I remember a party. Now near weep.

We bury the guy in the sand. I don't know if he's still there. I don't know. I've heard from kind of weekend at Bernie's situation. He looked at I'll say this.

He wouldn't that great of a guy anyway. Yeah. To be honest with you.

But yeah, we've had some.

I mean, who didn't have some time. That's a pretty epic story. He's done there. Broke your guys arm one time. Arm wrestling and floor band for what?

Just for fun or for money. No. I mean, I didn't do it on purpose. And I wouldn't for money. I was playing a show.

And I took a break. And I go over on the side. And these guys were like, Now you're pretty big old boy. That's arm wrestling.

That's for whatever reason. That's what we grew up doing. Yeah, my dad and his brother and all of them. And I beat two or three guys. And they were like, man, we're going to get somebody to.

And they brought this dude over here. He was probably 40. You know, and he's all jacked up and somebody videoed it. And it's just arm just snapped. Oh, yeah.

Is that a pop-led or video that went around? I'm trying to think I'm going to be missing in that. You know what? I mean, like, we can show you right now, right? Let me see.

Oh, there you go. You got to listen to it, though. Oh, come on. Get out of the sound up. Three, two, one, go!

Oh, my God. Stop. Dude, that's enough, man. Sorry. How do you find this so fast, huh?

I don't know, bro. We got it. It's all in the internet. Oh, my God, dude. Yeah.

I love that movie over the top, you know? Yeah. He turned his hat around. He was serious about it. Oh, that was him.

Yeah, I forgot about that film, man. That was a good one. You mentioned John Party. What about right-class trades? Did you come up around them?

They were always out there.

A little bit. I mean, I was already here, I guess. By the time they were kind of touring around Alabama. Yeah. Uh, it's always a good sound when you hear somebody's name or a band.

And then you keep hearing it over and over again. They've gotten to a place where they're really recognized, you know, on radio and award shows, and all that. Now it's awesome because they've made it there. Yeah.

They went in awards and what a cool thing. Um, the town that you grew up in, what was it? Uh, how big was it? Jacksonville. I know it.

Uh, I don't have any people. I mean, there's a college there when the college is there.

“And I think it was around 8,000 when I was going to school.”

What college was it? Jacksonville State. Yeah. Uh. Yeah.

But it was, uh, it was a really small town of Alabama school. It wasn't in the end. And I grew up in a community right outside of their cult pleasant valley and Williams community. And it's one flash and light. One store called Greenstore, E.O. Green runs stores 94 years old.

Still there. Doesn't charge tax. Yeah. He just guesses what everything costs. Oh, I love it.

When it's makers up there, he'll be like, it's $2 next day. They'll be $2.50, you know. But all of my granddares and their brothers used to go out and play dominoes in the morning for work. We'd stop in there and school.

Uh, Ben changed much either. So was he related to you? Probably. Look at this. Probably.

I got a legend. No way. That's him. I saw him yesterday. Dang.

I want to go see him. Come on. My dad said they bought their basketball shoes. They played in Conner's all stars. He stills.

Conner's all stars. And that shoes are horrible to play in. Oh, it's like begging to break your ankle. And you slide. You just slide.

Well, I don't know how they did it. They must use a different type of maybe some type of turpentine. I'd say it would all be near the jet rod regus using things. Oh, you know, that is. Uh-huh.

Remember on sandlot? The guy that jumped the fence. Oh, yeah. He put those. Those black ones.

There he is. What do you put on? Man, this. You man is quick. He's crushing.

He's easy to do with interview like this. Oh, he didn't say anything. And yeah, look at those. What are those? What were those?

Some flyers or something? P.F. Flyers broke. P.F. Flyers were a real shoe.

No doubt. We had those ones that would.

“Remember when those shoes came out that would blink or whatever?”

You tell my light up shoes? Yeah, and everybody would just call you like a queer all the time. Did they say that? What? Yeah.

Why? I don't know. Because your shoes were dang blinking. I get it a little better. People like your feet are gay or whatever.

I'm not. Well, I don't guess I had any. Those were probably expensive shoes. I probably my parents wouldn't buy me those. Were your parents?

Were they like going to be pretty strict over there? What was it? What was it like? Just a good small town environment. It sounds like a real kind of American Southern environment.

Yeah. There's a lot about where I grew up. It's kind of like a movie going back in time.

You know, I'll bring people down there and never like managed really like this.

You know. My dad built houses. My mom was schoolteacher. I never got everything. Mom caught me.

Anything I ever did. Pops built houses for living and I used to go out and work with him. And I wouldn't play in ball. So I tried to play any sport I could to keep moving to work. I was really lucky.

That all four of my grandparents lived in the same town. So I saw my grandparents every day. So I was really close with all of them. That's awesome, man. Yeah.

“And you think that's what led you to writing grandpa's never die.”

That's just a lot of, like, that's a lot of influence of why grandpa's never died. My, my grandmother and I'd be for loved country music. He'd sit around with the old EpPhone guitar when I was a kid and we'd sit around and kind of play. And we ended up turning his parents house. My great grandparents into a musical.

And I'm Friday night till these old people would come out there and play and tell jokes. And I'd sit around and watch how they made chords and learn how to play like that. But yeah, that's my gun to be food. My gun to the London was a big fisherman golfer. So I'd hang out with him every day.

And I wrote the song about him as a tribute.

And I ended up putting both of them as co-rotters on the song. So that's all songwriter credit for it. Oh, they must have failed. I mean, they must be so proud, huh? Yeah, my gun to be for died in 2010.

And so he didn't really get to see me, you know, but I have any real success. I was kind of starting out with music. But my gun to the London got to come see me at the opera. My grandma and Nancy did. My grandmother's little jeans to a live.

So she's probably cutting grass right now. She loves it. That's awesome. Yeah, man. I missed it.

I definitely missed things about like that at home. Dude, what if grandpa's never did? You ever think about that? Like, because there would be some side effects of it. But obviously, we do okay. So everything in that song, there are side effects.

Dude, there's a, if every robe was named Copperhead, yeah, it'd be really hard to get anywhere. Right. Really confusing. Yeah.

That's a good point. Cool. There's never ran out of beer. People alcohol pools and people would be, yeah. And then they'd be out on the road.

The school home teams never lost everybody would be 500 at the season. Yeah. So there are problems.

“Like, if you want to just pick apart the songs that are right, we can.”

But no, I picked that off. I was going to probably die. It's, yeah. It's one of my favorite songs.

I mean, second of all, but no, I do think like if they never thought, first of all,

what would never inheritance would never start. That piss some people off. Yeah, but only people with rich grandpa's. Right. Because I mean, I, you know, but even if you had a shitty grandpa,

if he had 50 dollars, you knew you was getting a little waterfall. Yeah, but grandpa's always give you a little walk around. A lot of other pockets. Some of my own grandfather only reached into one of his pocket. And I knew that other pockets.

That's where it was. Oh, yeah. Am I going to always had a $2 bill that had-- Yeah, that was pocket. Yeah, that was a picture of Bill Clinton blowing a whistle on it.

So it was not real. But he gave me that. But he gave you that. Yeah. That's a good idea of giving fake money to children.

Yeah. Well, you know, it keeps him out of trouble. Yeah. That's a good point. Yeah.

Yeah, what if grandpa was trying to think of just some other interesting things?

Okay, grandpa's never died.

Just like if they never died. Um.

“So a positive, I think, would be the, the things that I do”

miss about that generation was like, they were hard workers. Yeah. You know, I always say I was kind of the last generation like work with my dad.

Like my buddies didn't. But like, you know, now, I mean, I don't know that people get out of high school and college and really have to bust it anywhere. You know, there's a certain amount of like work.

I think this law's a little bit. We have to think and also a lot of the trades. I mean, one thing like we've had like row one here a few times. And he talks a lot about how there's not enough, um, viable tradesmen right now.

Like there's jobs. Yeah. There's just not people that can fill them that have the skill sets. You know, we could be working and we're just talking. Yeah.

You know. Yeah. But also I thought my pro lived in my house for most of my childhood. My dad was dirty jobs and deadless catch every day. Oh, too.

He's a, yeah. Listen to his voice. It just, it makes you feel like you got to fill out a job application every time I hear my grows voice. I'll fill one out online.

Yeah.

You know, I'll buy them just by a second quick creator sum.

This is just in case. Just yeah. I just feel like something could happen.

“See, that's what I'm talking about though.”

You, you go down to Alabama and you get up and you're like, "Man, you want me to do it? I'm going to be a little pin and boss and goats." And then you just go to the store and Bob, you make a list and you make it happen.

And then you go and you dig the holes and like, you're not thinking about anything else when you do that. Yeah. Oh, dude. I think there's like,

I do think with society. So now we took a very parent path out into like existence. You know, like this like, you know, and I think they're also became like a great, you know, there's this agreed has a lot to do with that.

I think when somebody wants to keep leveling up, you know. So, but I think, I think we will, we will look back at some point in generations in the future. We'll look back and be like, "Man, we were missing out on a lot of the things in life that really mean something, you know?"

Well, yeah. I mean, it's social media that's caused it. The amount of comparison you have to somebody else. Yeah. Also, let's talk about how main you were talking like a couple of grandpa's now.

About the younger generation like, "Man, these kids now, they don't know what it was like." You know. When I was growing up, I had a phone. It didn't do anything.

You could call. If you wanted to send a K, you had to press six, seven times. You know, like it was tough. And I'm social media or anything. Now, all they've known is,

and I remember people I thought were rich growing up. Oh, yeah. But now everybody seems rich. It was like a handful of people that had bunny in my town. I was like, "Man, those big time."

Oh, dude, if somebody had a garage dude, we had this one kid, Jeremy. And he-- It's always Jeremy. He got a garage.

And we were like, "Look at this mother." You know, we couldn't believe it. But then, dude, two days later, we're over there just doing the door up and down and running back and forward.

Oh, we had an automatic door? Yeah. Oh, that's wild. He got the real deal, dude. But yeah, man.

Dude, was every another day that the first 911 call was in Alabama? Did you know that? I could have been to mess--

probably.

I mean, I don't know what they didn't get it.

You know what I mean? Oh, it's a seal down there, bro. Try to get a recipe in Alabama. There you go. They wouldn't-- the government wouldn't unseal it.

That's not I know. Oh, watch. Hey, live well, Alabama, 1968. There you go. Very first.

We started it. We launched the standard across the United States. I don't know if that's good or bad. Like, things were kind of getting a little rocky down there. Like, look, we got to figure out a way to get help over here.

Quicker. I could have been, dude, it could have been just look. Somebody's like, you know, there is a guy over here, just hugging his sister in like a-- in the worst way.

Nice. You know? Coming, there's just-- hey, yes, officer. There is a man over here. I mean, and he is just hugging his sister.

Yeah, I mean, I don't know what that-- I mean, that 911 call could have been anything.

“Honestly, what would that hug have to look like?”

You're sitting over there, just crushing the heater.

Yeah. And while my parking lot, you see somebody hugging, you know they're brothers, since you go. If I was a little too long. Yeah, that's what--

Honey, give me a phone. I'm going to call this in. Yeah. It'd be out of ten, or they'd call it in. Yeah, it would be.

And he wouldn't be so much in Louisiana. I couldn't tell you that, dude. You know, Louisiana, Mississippi's not making that call. Yeah. They were like, hey, these people are stealing our style.

Yeah, they were saying, bro. They're stealing our style. They're holding a baby. Yeah. Oh, God. Dude, I remember, and I've told this story, but we had this lady, Miss Robin, and she was like our teacher.

Mm-hmm. She was like, uh-- She sounded like a teacher, Miss Robin. Oh, yeah. Good call. And she was out there.

Cooked me today, man. Uh, and she would uh-- Well, the other kids would do nap time, right? But I didn't really believe in nap time. I just wanted to get busy and get out of it.

Yeah, I got that. I was ready to get to work. Well, it was probably like that. Yeah. Even as a kid, I was like, what do we fucking do? And we're barely-- nobody's doing shit. We got to take a break from that.

You get old and realized nap time was for them, not for you. Oh, you know what I mean? That was their break. Hey. Lay down for a little while. Yeah. You need a nap.

You know what I mean? Yeah. I'm gonna hit this eater.

“And that's what she would do though, Miss Robin.”

No, she knew I didn't sleep. And we had similar hair. And so she would come and kind of hit me with her foot. And that man, I could go outside. And she'd light up a cigarette and--

And I would just lean on our car turns. She would just tell me about her smoke and look at you. Yeah, just she would just tell me stuff about her husband or something Roger. And he wasn't doing shit.

Yeah. And she would just-- Most Rogers aren't. Yeah. I listened to this.

This is always-- I don't know why I got the last thing. I'm gonna glad I do, man. Thanks for coming in. Yeah, thanks for having me.

Yeah. We're just some coffee coming shortly. You know what bothers me? When-- What bothers you, Roddy?

Because I bet it's a lot. Well, one thing that really bothers me a lot. How do you look at a baby and name it, Roger? Yeah. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Like my goodness, his name was Beauford. How did you look at a baby and say, that's Beauford? That'd be you for right there.

You know what I mean? But in the sound--

“And I think about you're playing with the kid when he was like 10.”

And you're another kid. You're like, Beauford, get over here. Like, that's wild. Yeah. We had a fellow named Freemont, boss.

And people thought he was rich or whatever. Okay. Just 'cause his name was like real high-end. Rich or gay? People thought--

One of the two-- Did he choose a lot of-- Oh, they did. Did they roll? Oh, those wheely shoes?

Yeah. Those are the best. And he saw a kid doing that. That was a little after my generation off. So I feel like--

I don't know if I-- We had those. I would see kids have those. They have the re-bought pumps. Some of those.

People would pump those shoes. I like the river.

I feel like I've always judged my--

shoes and clothing as in, like, with the version of me that doesn't wear that. Kick the ass with the version that did. You know what I mean? Wait, say it one more time.

So, like, the version of me that wears wheely shoes would get his ass beat by the version that didn't. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. That's why I make decisions in life.

And then you go with what you like. That's not for me. Yeah. Got it. Yeah.

What's the worst-- What's one of the best or worst bar fight you ever saw out there? That's how it's called. Yeah, for sure. Hell, yeah.

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I ain't been on a podcast where they can look up stuff you're talking about in a long time.

I guess they did here on bus and with the boys. Yeah, that's cool. That's nice, man. I mean, look, it's been, I mean, one of my goals is here is to try and learn more stuff and get a little bit more involved in kind of what's going on in the universe.

Since I'm not torn, I have a little bit more time to absorb some things. And just want to do that, you know? It's like how far Pluto is from Neptune or just like social things.

“I think no, just consume more like different types of artists work, right?”

Different films, just absorb more stuff. So it's like I have more things to like think about and talk about. Like I can compliment that. You probably like me and that I don't listen to as much new music as I used to before I got in this world. Not necessarily because I'm burned out on it.

And not really because I'm like, I don't want to get drawn to something that's going to influence me to be like that. I just, I don't know. I just, I think I'm busy and don't pay attention to it like I used to. I don't have a passion for it like I did.

But I mean, like you don't what probably watched a lot of stand up or, I mean,

Yeah, you know, we're that you get removed from it when you're in it. You know, I feel like I feel that way with me. That's a good point. Yeah, you think you're in it. So there'd be you be in more of it.

You just got so much to be on stuff. You got to be concerned with it. I don't. Yeah. There's a lot that goes into it.

Especially once you get to touring. And like with podcast and like I'll sit and watch through every single episode. Like I was up last night to probably, you know, 11 watching your putting notes on an episode. Like giving notes and like, you know stuff and like because songs will say stuff where it's like, we can't leave that in, you know, we just can't.

And those will say stuff that's slander or that's like, you know, it's like, you got to check through or send it to an attorney. Like there's just different things you got to do now.

“And so yeah, there's a lot of, I think there's a lot that goes into that.”

Did I hear you say that you don't have a computer? No. No, I mean, I certainly didn't. They got me one during COVID. To do like zooms and stuff.

And I remember my managers had me set up on this zoom interview. The radio station didn't. They were asked me to go to like speed.com or something to see what my band would be. And the band was and I didn't have internet at my house. And they couldn't believe that damn.

Yeah. When I go home, it's a, it's a disconnect from, you know. You know, it's simple. I do like photoshoot or interviews or something down there. You know, it's nice.

I've started steering people that way. Because every time I did a shoot, we'd like ran an old truck. We got some farms somewhere standing in front of a bunch of cows. And like, man, I got all that. And I'll be able to just do it down there.

So, yeah. Do you have, do you run in a lot of like X girlfriends and stuff around home? What's up? What's that energy like? Because I'm sure you had a girlfriend at some point.

At some point I've had a girlfriend. Yeah. It's, I'm going to brought that up. Because you seem like a guy that's yeah. They would have a girlfriend at some point in his life.

Yes. Yeah. You're right about that. Thank you. And we just had it switch our call for you into some different cups.

That was for the people watching. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Dude.

And yeah. You just said something. It's kind of Tony Scott. Yeah. Hope he's.

Hope he's good. Yeah. Tony used to drink. He had to eat past. He had.

And we lost it. All right. He's done a lot. He didn't have the big case.

But a lethal case. All the same.

He caught it in the spring.

Yeah. You know, so you don't get the head. You catch that winner here, baby. It'll. It'll climb up your legs.

Um. Stars of toe. Yeah. Star. And then it comes.

Look at for you. Dude. That's how to get that. It's like it is. We're joking, obviously.

No, yeah. I know. If people haven't figured it out, but now. They thought we were being serious when you explain the coffee thing. That's like, that seems like something a serious podcast would do.

“You have to remember that some people can't see it.”

Some people are just listening. Half of our audience is just listeners. Are you going to want to watch this one? So. So yeah.

Half our audience is just listeners. So it's like you got to kind of explain stuff sometimes. Just like we just do a cut and we swap chairs. And I'm like, hey, we're right back. We had to swap chairs.

You know what I mean? Yeah. You got to move this plant. Did you ever do a planner? Dude, one time I got so high.

And taking part in California. I was a door. I was doing. Yeah, I was smoking weed. And I called down to the, if I got back to my room.

It had been a long day. I called down to the front. And I said, somebody put a bunch of plants in my room. I was going. Right.

And they're like, excuse me. And they're like, I said, somebody. There's a bunch of big plants in there. Said somebody put a bunch of plants in my room. And they came up.

And it was just the regular plants that had been in the room for a week.

And I just had never really noticed in my guess.

Okay. That's, that's really fun for me because I had a thing. When I first got a tour bus. I've been touring for several years. I was driving the shows.

Whatever. So there was such a big, like, that was a huge moment. Oh, it's a relief. And I took a buddy of mine out on the road with me to kind of help me. You know, whatever you was doing assistant, whatever you want to call it.

And I had this thing where when I was drinking, I would take all the plants from the lobby of hotel and put them in my room. And when I say we got a bus, I was just, I was partying back then. You know, I got after it. So as I say.

Yeah. And I don't know where that came from. And everyone to steal anything. And I would always take it back. But my room would just look like a jungle.

But to any party plan, I could get furniture from down there. We'll admit now. But you guys get them in there. We just, I just go to the downstairs and pick them up and kind of like, you know, you see, I'm like cartoon really walk behind the thing.

Like it was covering them, you know? Yeah.

“Real silly thing, I remember being in Mobile, we played Marty Groud down there,”

which is where Margot originated, by the way. Mm-hmm. Thank you. Yeah. And somebody asked for somebody who probably called 911 because she was getting weird

down there. I didn't tell us to do that. If he was a money pot down there. But the moon pot is started down there, didn't they? We have a moon pot.

Oh, the moon pot started. Here we go. Where did they start? I don't want to eat before you move on. We're going to hold that thought.

Tennessee. Let's go. Chad Nuga. The windy city, the moon pot originally in 1917 at the Chad Nuga bakery in Tennessee. You know, Mountain Dew started in Tennessee.

Did you know Appalachian coal miners wanted to snack in their lunchpales? And that was how it started. God, I'd love that. When you love that, you've been in a mine all day. They requested a filling treat as big as the moon.

Did they really-- I just knew that. I didn't read that. They requested a filling treat as big as the moon. That's why I was called a moon pot.

Who wrote this? Oh, this is-- You know, there's made up stuff on the internet. Did you know that? I figured that out last couple of years.

People can just say whatever they want, put on the internet. We never feed that out. We'll just look it up and say it. Yeah. We don't really test anything.

Well, you can just say whatever you can like-- Oh, now it is. You can say whatever.

“What I found is, oh, you have to say before or you say whatever you want is,”

get ready with me. Yeah. If you say get ready with me, you can say whatever you want. Sure, I'll found that out. Did you see that? There's videos. They'll say get ready with me and they just make up stuff.

Well, it's gotten bad too. It's like get ready with me from my nephew's funeral or whatever. And I'm like, what? Why is that, dude? You know, it's like--

Or they're like, oh, get ready for me while I cheat on my spouse or whatever. And sometimes it's just like, this shit is not helpful to people.

That's, hey, hold on a second.

No, you're right. But there is a-- There's a world where I get ready with me. Like if you did it to go do something-- Yeah.

That'd be interesting. I mean, I'd be putting makeup on. Like, you actually get ready parts going to be pretty slow. Right. Should be putting your clothes on.

Right. But explaining where you're going. Yeah, same where I'm going. Get ready with me, guys. Do they do a good thing to go fishing?

I'd be good. Get ready with me to go fishing. And then talk about what losers you're going to take and stuff. Oh, yeah. Talk about my rig.

Let's do a good ol' boy. Get ready with me. I like that. That's not a bad idea. That's not a great idea.

It's not a great idea. I'm not going to get any doors from being like that. I don't know. Yeah. Who would watch it that swim?

But you'll get a lot of women watching it, dude. I think. And I'll get their friends. You know? That's right.

I think that's okay with me, dude. You know, I just thought of it. You kind of remind me of a prank. Who is it? You know, the movie "Brank"?

Uh-uh. Bring it up. Maybe it's a combination of the good guy and the bad guy. Ooh.

Those two guys together? That's kind of.

That's a man on the right?

Yeah. And he's the bad guy. Man, look. A me, like hate when I look at him for me. Oh, you saw this movie.

Yeah.

“But I think there was a little redemption at the end.”

I think you like help somebody up after you push him down or something. Brink. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know this actor.

And sorry, dude. I did it. This guy does look also a little bit feminine in this section. Yeah. Because he's wearing a neck.

I think the necklace has a little bit. It still is the lips. Let me go. Yeah. Never mind.

It's a great point that guy definitely looks out of feminine in this. Yeah. You don't have to tip toward him. Yeah. I don't have to apologize, dude.

Yeah. He's going to be way more offended if he wears a lot of shoes than what you just said about in looking for him. That dude will do it. Get ready with me.

I feel like in this character would do it. Get ready with me. That's fair to say. A hundred percent. Okay.

Okay. Good. That's what I feel like. But yeah, dude. I can't forget what we've been talking about.

That's okay. This is what this is. I've been in that for 10 years. Cool. It seems that we start somewhere.

We'll get somewhere. But it's rubbing off on me. I did the brief thing. And I don't know what we're talking about for that. That's okay, dude.

I'll tell you this. You've done a great job of just being yourself, managing things well, standing control, confidence, and a lot of good humor. I didn't even expect it. I was working on posture.

I was hoping that was going to come out of there. Dude, you want some good posture. I'll tell you where to go. You're a funny guy. I'm in.

I'm all right. Today. Today. It's contagious, man. Be around funny people.

Do you feel like, like, totally honest. Do you feel like, like, if I showed up at a music place, I would feel like, you know, I would sit there wishing I could do music. If you show up to a place where there is a comedy,

“do you feel like you have to be a funny guy?”

No. No. But I think everybody wants to be funny. Do you? That's a good thing.

That's a good thing. I feel like funny is probably the quickest way for somebody to like you. That's fair. Because, you know, when you see somebody, especially somebody that's famous. He's somebody that's famous.

You think I should probably jerk. You know, he's probably. That is people's first thought. If you're a little separate self-deprecating, you kind of cut up. Oh, maybe it doesn't take itself too seriously.

That's. Yeah. I feel like those are people I like. Do you feel like people think that about you ever? Like, it's probably especially if you're also a handsome or guy.

And a, and a popular guy. People probably getting to be a harder time about it. You need to be real funny. Is what you need to do. Yeah.

You know. Yeah. You got to be real funny. Oh, the word of the wise. Did you.

Yeah. What was the best, what was one of the best bar fights on the, you tell me that? I don't know if I asked you. No, we went into a completely different rant after that. Uh.

It's always girls.

Girl fights are always way more serious than guy fights.

I feel like, you know.

“And I'm always surprised to it the song.”

They get in a fight during one of your songs. Well, there's been a couple of videos I've seen. People like getting in a fight during a wash grandpa's never died. Uh, or I got a song called Jesus saves. You know, and like that's a.

Like, how do you emotionally. Go to blows. Right. Like, Jesus saves, but he better not saved at each, you know. Yeah.

And somebody just comes across and just. And the craziest part. People, some of them that are fighting all, like, already will be in like a cast or something or I'm cast or something. That's a kind of shit.

I don't get it. Yeah. They just got out of a fight. Yeah. Like they just got out of a fight.

And now they're, you know, I will venture to say this. I bet you the people that fight at bars or concerts probably do it often. habitual. You know, I mean, those are the ones. It's probably not a lot of people.

It's handful of them that are just. They keep doing it. I had buddies growing up that liked fighting. Yeah. They're like, that was, they go to the ball.

They were going to get in the fight. Right. I feel like I got goofier. You know what I mean? I was always like.

Take my clothes off or like jumping to lake or something like that. You know, I don't. Right. Instead of fighting. Yeah.

You know, you're like, get ready with me. Well, I get a fight or whatever. Like that would be. Put some eye black on. Yeah.

You want to go kick somebody's ass. I'm about to go to a concert.

And fight somebody I've never met for no reason.

Get ready. Look at how I watched that. During Jesus saves. Get ready with me. Somebody says you're going to get in the fight.

Think about that. You get dressed for a lot of things. Knowing that there's a potentially maybe you meet a girl. It's a good question. So you, so you, you put on something maybe a girl would like.

I know it. Maybe you're going to be, it's going to be hot. Well, let me tell you. Be comfortable. I'll tell you if you're going to fight.

It's a great question. Thank you. Boots would look intimidating, but they wouldn't be as good for fight as tennis shoes would. I agree. Rollers shoes would not be good.

A lot of shoes might distract. But rollers shoes might be good. You'll hit the guy and then you just activate them and use the roll right now and heal your home. You're back at the house. You know, if you had a strategy, that would be good if you were going to run from a fight.

If you were going to try to escape a fight, like you think somebody's going to kick your ass to this place you're going to go and wear roll shoes. Yes, I got to come out. Yeah. And like you ain't leaving and you're like, watch this.

You just lift the front of your feet up. That's what I'm saying. And but like no other part of your body has to move. And you just look back in your hair is just flowing as you just.

Honestly, I changed my opinion about those.

That would be nice.

“But yeah, do there's some chick out there.”

She's in an arm cast or whatever. And she has a dog. She says she does, but it's been taken or whatever. It's got my CPS. And, uh, and child protective services.

It is dogs, huh? They take dogs. Oh, yeah, they will. I mean, if you're not being a good. She says she has a dog, but it's gone.

Yes. She got a cast. Yes. Are that full of come there now? And she's like, get ready with me.

Well, I go over there. Over the snow. I'll get my dog back. Yeah, over the snickers tavern or whatever. And I'm beating somebody's ass after dinner tonight.

Yeah. And then she probably puts on nice earrings. See, I guess if you can take them out. Yeah. Because that's intimidation right there.

That's a move, dude. Think about it. Police. I'll honestly, I wish. Yeah.

I wish I had them.

Just for, we'd give a wearing.

Think about this. Did you ever have your ears peeing you in the bar? And we just disgruntled. You know, we're just disagreement. I don't know what it is.

I can't even imagine because we're good old boys. But let's just say, we, we're not about it. Same girl or something. Yeah. And we're like, about to go down like, we're doing this.

And you're like, oh, yeah, and I just. And we're going to fight each other. Yeah. I mean, wouldn't say something for you. You're going to get her.

Not at all. And no judge or anything. But you're going to get her. Like, I'm not. I would rather be like, you're going to get her.

Yeah. But it's just a 10. Okay, it's just a pretend thing. Sorry. Okay.

Okay. You're mad at me. Okay. And you take your earrings out. I'm like, oh, shit, you mean to go down.

Yeah. He don't ever take his earrings out. You know, he didn't even take him out. We went on the water slide after, you know, senior year, whatever. See now it makes it hard for us to be at a fight because we're hanging out

seeing a year on a water slide. That's good point. But you didn't take earrings out then, dude. You're taking them out now. You meet your here to beat some ass.

Yeah. Huh. Yeah, dude.

“I think if I got in the fight, I thought about this now.”

I'd wear a nice suit. Because the story after we would be like, man, you see that dude in that suit beat that guy's ass. He beat his ass in a suit. Yeah.

That's cool. And then he went to work probably. And then he went to work. See how his picture looks like a wedding suit. Like a tock seat.

But you tell him like a suit. Like you work in Wall Street. I'm taking a business suit. Yeah. Or just work on any street.

Like some people, you know. People used to get dressed up a lot more than they did now. Think about that. Think about the fact that on a daily basis. People would get like people took a like a.

There was a lot more. I think caring concerned about how they looked. Because some images of people, how they dressed. It's say 70 years ago. I didn't grow up around that.

Well, not for us. I'm talking about two maybe two generations earlier. You're something. Yeah. I mean, no.

I think I feel like a person to dress nice. Had a nice job when I was growing up was like the bank president. He just wore polisher with khakis. Yeah. You know, like my mom wouldn't love more of that church.

And that was fancy then, you know. Oh, yeah. But look at people dressed. I think snazzy. Do you think that's true?

Maybe I'm just kind of romanticizing it. Well, I will go along with like the whole. You know, like sweat suits to the bar. It's gotten. That's what I'm saying.

It's gotten pretty casual. It has. Like there's like dude. There's made. There's even men shoes at Alo at Alo or whatever.

It's called ALO. And it's crazy now. We're so dumb. It's ALO. And I'm not a say it.

What is it? Yeah. Yeah. I agree. Dude, what is it?

But ALO. But yeah, was it?

“I'm just trying to think was there a bar fight that stood out to you over there?”

Oh. Like there's one that stood out. Because that was time at floor, man. And dude, that's a lot.

So floor van was always a place you could get.

I never saw a lot of ice down there. Yeah. You could get your stomach pump. And you could get a lot of splinters. Do you see a place you could get a lot of splinters at?

Good. Yeah. Like everybody in that bitch had a splinter dude. If people were doing the stinky leg, 40 people would get a damn splinter in there. There's a vibe about that place that's weird.

You know, beach bars too. Got a little more like Jimmy Buffett laid back. Let's all get a long head on the top top top top. Yeah. Yeah.

So it's gone. It really is. I do remember. I was all the NFL's in Louisiana. I played at the Texas Club.

Mm-hmm. That name Baton Rouge. Baton Rouge, yeah. And I remember I was about the sign of record deal. I had somebody from a label down there.

And I was horribly sick. Like, through up for the show. I was just trying to get through it. It was one of the worst right before show sickness I've had. And somebody got a fight during the last song.

And I was like, hey, like, I don't know. I got out with it. And I couldn't get their attention. They were still like going at it. So they were close to the front.

I said, my guitar off and I poked the guy on the back. And I was like, hey, let me play one more song. And then we'll all go out back and just beat the shit out each other. And everybody just cheered. The two dudes were like, high five.

And then we went through and got the song done. Oh, that's great. Yeah. That's what people get. They want to play in, you know, some people just don't know how to.

They're like, well, if I guess we'll fry it now and it's like, yeah, you come along a little bit of strategy for people. They have some people follow suit. When a leader shows up, people will follow. That's what's kind of wild sometimes, you know.

Well, it's a little bit of like, you go with somebody, you know,

the calf situation with little calmness too. Okay, listen, you're going to fight. Right. But we can do it. It's fine.

Yeah. Let me, let me, I got this one more song. Yeah. Let me play this song. And then back to the fight.

Oh, that's the rest of the reasonable. Yeah. Just be reasonable. Yeah. Be reasonable, dude.

What was that looking at? Oh, I saw you letting you do a good bit of hunting there.

“Do you hunt out on your property out there now, then?”

I do a lot of turkey hunting out there. I usually go up north deer hunting. We think about turkeys. I think about them a lot. You think of one of the best birds or not.

We had Steve Renell on here. No. Just bird to just in general, Steve Renell gave him top bird, he said. For what? Like, what's the, he said.

What's the stipulations are you going by? They don't fly that good. Yeah. I look, I agree with you. What I'm saying is he said they were the best bird.

And I said, look Steve, I just, I, you know, I begrudgingly kind of like a supported and he was going through it when he said it. For, for just because we're so close to. And there he is with one right there. Oh, he loves him so much.

That one looks dead. He's got to be talking about hunting birds. Like, I would think like a eagle's an easy win for best bird. That's trevin. What do you think he said?

He said that bald eagles, despite being America's bird, they're scavengers, whereas turkeys are highly intelligent. They, their head's changed color based on their mood. They do that. Yeah.

So he was all about it. Yeah. So, but then he's also deceasing them. So that's kind of an interesting concept. But he loves the most challenging bird to hunt.

Yeah. I wanted turkeys for two or three years before I even got close to killing one. Really? Yeah, my dad didn't hunt. I kind of just taught myself how I was interested in it.

Yeah, like they're, they're tough. Especially down those, those eastern birds down there. They're tough, man. We went and hunted some osteolas down in Florida. Florida.

Yeah. And it was interesting. The little different down there. So it's flat. You're hunting in the hills and mountains.

You know, you got a bird that's calling. You're calling to me. You think he's right there. But he's two ridges over. You know, I mean, you got to know how to land lays.

And you think he's going to pop out over top of the hill and he walks around the side. And spots you for him. Yeah. Yeah.

“I think maybe the place you want was a little bit easier.”

It might have been like sort of like a beginners or like summer league or whatever. That was you in a Caleb. Yeah. Your Michael water. Michael water.

We're goofing off. They wouldn't even let me have a gun. Yeah. So I thought that wasn't good. I get that.

Yeah.

But then the second part was dude.

What did you wear? You put camouflage on. You're like, you're one of the city pool. Well, first of all, they did not even send a fan flitter. Anything of my world were supposed to wear.

They gave no directions. So they had some stuff for you. Yeah. They had some stuff down there. And it was good.

We like the food was great. We had a great time. But I agree with flat. So that's an easy place to shoot him. And dude.

So we were out there. And we maybe saw some or maybe didn't see some. I remember what happened. But afterwards we're leaving. And there's like a couple like the games over whatever.

It's like around 11 a.m. There's a couple turkeys just hanging out in the ditch. Right? And like, you know, it's over. Like we were over there hunting them.

And we happened to just see some over here. Yeah. It's like, you know, like during the locker room, the games over. One of them has a towel around his neck.

“You know what I'm texting his texting his wife or what?”

I'm not worried about it. Yeah. Yeah. Because what I'm just taking his feet off. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Taking his wings off. He's just a fucking sparrow with a fucking morning job. But we got him. Yeah.

And fucking they're like, let's shoot him. I'm like, dude, the fuck. That's not fair. You know? Yeah.

Like I just want to be a fair challenge. That's the thing. Sometimes with hunting. I do like. I had a great time.

I would like to go duck hunting is something I would like to do. Um, I know I got. But uh, but that is a. That's a fair. Like I just like a little bit more of a fair challenge, you know?

Well, you go out in the woods. Like in my form with a call.

First of all, you gotta figure out how to call.

Yeah. You can't have a flaws. And you go out there and like try to kill a bird on your own. It's tough, you know? Like with no weapon.

No, you can take a weapon. I just mean like you call and one is not the easy thing to do. And then you almost have to get busted by one to know how well they can see. You know, that's pretty good. Like you have one sneak up on you.

Yeah. And Turkey's because they're not going to come in the way you want them to. Yeah. You go and you pick your spot. But he's going to try to come in where he can see you from as far away as you can.

You know? Wherever that hand is that he thinks he's going to see. Yeah. They kick my butt for so many years. Yeah.

Yeah. I saw that you call them. You do a call. Do you right now? No.

I mean, I use it like a diaphragm or I got a slate call or a slate call. Yeah. No. No. No.

No. That's something. That one's fucking. Yeah. That one wasn't good.

That's from Key West. I think. But let me try it one more time. Yeah. That's pretty good.

It's pretty simple. Because the goal is you're trying to kill more time. No. No. No.

No. No. Yeah. That's better. That's it.

See how you use your chest? Yeah. That was good.

Same with your chest. That was good. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah.

That's nice, man, dude. And when people get out there with those calls, I love guessing what birds, different birds. There's so many birds out there. It is kind of interesting.

How. How some birds you can hunt them. But so many birds you can't hunt them. Yeah.

“Well, do you think that is a these tastes good kind of thing?”

Because I've never heard anybody that'd be like a cardinals delicious.

You know what I mean? Right. Let's birds don't have a lot on them. Turkey's got a lot of meat on them. Yeah.

Uh, dove and fuzz in are obviously really good. Bursy duck or goodie, geese. Yeah. You think that traditionally Indians, whatever it was back in the day, like started hunting birds that they ate and they ate some robins.

And they're like, that's not good. And then we just adapted to that. Yeah. These are the ones we're going to hunt. I bet you're probably right.

I bet there was always also some pervert, always eat in a blue jay or whatever off on the side. Like, look at this little weirdo. I mean, because I don't think people like, you like, scones either.

Yeah. Yeah. Louisiana. I mean, no, I mean, raccoon people eat a lot.

My brother would kill raccoon. Raccoon people eat. He would put notes up at the church and see if people had any in their area. And he'd go get him or whatever. Um, but yeah, I guess that is a good point.

You kind of eat whatever is the most beautiful. Because you also had to feed a lot of people. Yeah. It's like you're like, you know, if you're just out there hunting for one all day, it's kind of like, yeah.

I mean, turkeys are from back like settler days. Yeah.

“You know, like that was, that's what there's like the guy and turkeys.”

They came over on the boat. Yeah. And if you saw a fat turkey, people like, hey, bring some lunch. And you bring this one do brings a turkey. And one do brings a little night in jail or whatever.

It's like the duty and the night in jail. If they brought like a night in jail. Stu. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Yeah. You're like, that's a fucking weirdo. I think making that shit all night. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't even sound good. Some dude out there. Yeah. We're making a whipping crane omelette.

There's something. What about some swan nuggets? Not him, but just sound good. You ever eaten swan? You know, they also don't run a lot of real pretty birds either, though.

You know, I don't even swan. I don't have a little. You would have a little. Yeah. If you went to Thanksgiving, they had swan.

I bet they. I bet they. I bet Trump's eating it. It would look like on silver platter, like with the. Yes.

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Oh, it is. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go, dude.

I've never seen anybody catch that.

Catch the duck all. And I do it at every show. Yeah. People are there like signs throw me the duck call. They never catch it.

Well, I don't want to judge these people, but a lot of them could be women. That's it. And that is judging him. I'm going to tell you what you said was exactly what you said you weren't going to say.

It was what you said you were going to drive. Do you have a single league of their own? What the heck? Yeah, I had, dude. Maybe a dark call's hard to catch.

Maybe the shape of it is not something they're used to. Maybe a great catchers. And there's your kind of throwing. Look at you weren't throwing it easily towards them. You know, I don't know.

That's a good question, man. What, uh, you're on your biggest tour right now. Is that true? Yeah. Every year was a little bigger.

Has it been? Yeah, it's been great, man. What's the fear like about that? We were talking about this the other night, dude. You're not kind of at first conversation the other night of a couple of weeks ago.

Yeah. We're talking a little bit about just like when, like as your career goes along, the pressure it feels like like, you know, like what is the rest of your career going to be like, and how do you try to shape that if you can?

Yeah.

“And how do you try to shape yourself so that you're okay with how everything's go?”

There's a certain amount of, uh, I've already accomplished way more than I ever thought I would. So there's a, there's a piece of mind in that. And you know, there's also a little bit of, I'm guaranteed a certain career at this point.

You know, even if I never have another hit,

I can go tour and, you know, I can make a living, support my family, whatever I need to do. So there's, there's peace in knowing that. But I think the competitive part of me and like we talked about the other day is like, when I have a hit or winning a award or whatever it is,

I don't feel like I can relax now. You know, I've accomplished that. It's really more like, okay, now I gotta go do the next thing. I gotta take, I mean, I think I always say that it's, I want to try to get as much out of the opportunities I've got as I can.

Because I mean, what you're doing and what I'm doing is very rare, you know, to be able to have the opportunities you've got and to be able to go and, and do some acting and stand up comedy and have a podcast. It's this popular and this successful. So I'm, uh, I feel pressure in that regard of just like,

I want to go and be as successful as I can. But it's not necessarily nervous thing. Certainly not with the shows getting bigger. That's that side of it is not a pressure thing. Because I mean, the fans make it enjoyable.

When you go to a show and you got a sold out arena for your stand, they're excited you're there. That's easy, you know. Yeah. I guess with standard, it feels like it's a, I can't tell.

Do you lose, does the, does the venue lose intimacy with music? Because it's, as it gets big with standard, it feels sometimes like, man, I wish I could connect with people. It's just the way it is. But I don't know if, if music is, if it's the same like that.

I did a stadium tour with Luke Holmes. And that's, that's, that's too big. Like, I feel like there's no way the person in the far back, top row is getting their money's worth at a concert. You know, and you also lose some sound too.

“And you have to have two rows of speakers.”

One half way through as well. It's, there's so much reverb and bounce back. And then you think about how much of a painting is to go to that show. The traffic to get in for a fan. And then, you know, to be able to find a place to park and all that.

And then a charge on the park to a lot of time. And then you got, you know, the fact that it's also open air stadium. You got weathered issues. And your openers are starting in the daytime. So they don't get the, you know, the full effect of the lights and everything.

And so a reeners has always felt like a great place for me.

And you still have an intimate show. You still feel close to everybody. You feel like everybody got their minds worth. But it's still, you know, 25,000 people. Yeah.

Yeah. I guess like, yeah, the intimacy, yeah, the intimacy gets lost. I think at certain levels kind of, and see you try your best. You try to figure it out, you know. Yeah, I guess it's kind of interesting as your career goes on.

You're like, man, this has been interesting. It's been fun to have this experience. Yeah, and you want to keep it going. You want to like try your best. And you also want to challenge yourself too.

Because you got to evolve too. Like, I think there's a feel like your music kind of has to evolve as you do with your life. Like, like, because one time I sat down with. There's this famous comedy manager going to sat with him. He goes, you know, at a certain point, if you stay the same, your audience will kind of day eight.

You'll grow older. Yeah.

“So you have to, like, also, like, because it's almost a trap.”

Like, I want to stay this. I'm going to stay this song, you know? Like, because if, like, see, you get an or a first hit or something like that. You're like, well, I can't ever be different than this person. You know, the person that sings that song because I may lose people.

You know what I'm saying? Does it make any sense? Yeah, I think that what your guy said is a little bit not true in the sense of, you know,

But now, if you do something well, like your stand up videos, your podcast, whatever it lives forever.

“So the next generation, you know, whereas when you get a song in the radio 10 years ago,”

it lived when it was on the radio and then it went off and that was it. It was over. It didn't live anywhere else. Now, everything you do lives on the internet forever. So if you're doing something well, I would really, especially, like, open coming

arms. I would advise against trying to do anything too different.

For me, what I always do is, I try to make sure I've got songs on my record.

Every record that are writing from the same place I started writing from. That are very me. And then I try to take a few songs and write that are little stylistically different. Just got to ease outside of my comfort zone a little bit. But so you wait, but so it doesn't mean, like, so you're saying that you can change

because the thing you did will still stay out there. So it's kind of a safe space to be able to kind of, if you're doing something different. Like, yeah, I just think you don't turn in running from something that was successful. You know, and like, with country music, you know, It's scary to do that for sure.

It is. Yeah. But then I'm, I guess I'm thinking like, do do like, I guess I'm wondering sometimes it's like, Yeah, do you try to stay like, do you try to make your life fit this, this certain time? You know what I'm saying a little bit?

I'll give you an example. And I know you've done some acting is, you know, I imagine in your role you went into something that wasn't too far of a stretch from what you do and who you are. Mm-hmm.

So I did marshals and like, with a little grime. It would look. It was great. And I didn't want to take a role that was crazily different.

You know, I wanted something that I could ease into and introduce myself from that world and then kind of go on. That's how I am with music is I might try a song that stylistically is a little different than what I normally do. But it's not going to be, I'm not going straight pop.

You know, I'm not going to do something totally different. Yeah. Melody wise, I'll try some things out and see if it works. But keeping that familiarity and what you've done well for so long.

“I think extremely important now, because I think the best thing you can be is different.”

Not necessarily from something you've done before, but from everybody else. Mm-hmm. You know, I mean, what you, you're stand up and your humor on this podcast, I don't know anybody else. I mean, in a weird way, normal Donald, like the, the dry sarcasm of normal.

I always thought he did something that was so unique.

And I don't know who I would compare you to, you know? Yeah, I think you always kind of like, yeah, I don't know. I guess you want to be like, you want to try and ought like honor yourself as much as you can. I think with humor, it's hard to pretend to be somebody else. And I think with the music, if somebody, if you pretended too much

and some of it didn't come from a real authentic place for you, then it would kind of start to you be able to see that after a while. I think fans can tell. I think that, well, I don't think you'd have a ton of, I think the longevity wouldn't be able to be there because Yeah, you're playing, especially if you're trying to play somebody else's.

Authenticity's really, it's so obvious now, again, because social media. I mean, 10 years ago, you had a song on a radio and people not necessarily know what you look like. Yeah. Now they know everything about you. My dog's got 150,000 followers on Instagram. Does he really?

Yeah. I mean, people know everything about you. So if you're not authentically what you act like you are, people are going to figure it out. You think your dog knows he has that many? Yeah. No way.

Oh, man.

“That dude, he, when a camera's on him, he's a different person.”

What? Yeah. And where's he from? I mean, he lives in Jacksonwell a little bit. Listen, my farm isn't playing cards with the fact dude.

Yeah. Folded. I don't know. Oh, damn. He lives like that dude.

This is Carl. Oh, he's handsome. And that's a stogi. What's that dog called? Stogi's a cigar.

He is a corgi and blue healer. Quicks. Oh, blue healer, huh? Dam is Native American. I don't know.

Probably. Look it up. Blue healer. I'm blue healer's Native American. Oh, no.

You know what? That's the most direct answer to anything I've ever seen asked on the internet. No blue healers are not Native Americans. Native to America's. Man, it shouldn't be fake.

I'll have you have been like that completely wrong. Oh, it's crazy. Where did you get that from? I don't know. Blue healer's a Native American.

Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised. Look up what dogs are Native American. Some of them have to be, huh? How do we get them?

Dogs native to North America fall. Nah. Look up what type of people think dogs are Native American. Talk. Oh, bro.

You give me a hard time. No, no, seriously. I was curious about that. Well, we look up what would possess a person to think of dogs Native American. Can we look that up?

Yeah. Can you tell me about the actor? Do you enjoy it?

Yeah, I'll tell you about it in a second.

I want to finish this conversation. I think this conversation is done. You said that dogs Native American in no dogs are Native American. How about this? Look up this.

How about this? What dogs were owned popularly by Native Americans?

I don't think it has. I'm saying, okay, here we go. Please end the end, dog. Okay. Uh, such a cool dog.

Well, popular historical and interesting. Sure, wow. Didn't little bitches were going back then. I'm going to talk about real nature.

First famous dog, I remember.

You think? Except for the one that has a cigar that asked questions. Uh, wow. Oh, the, you know, I'm telling you. He's not a real dog.

So that guy said it doesn't care. That's a puppy. Yeah.

“So hey, that's what happens for Native Americans.”

Can you look up what types of people think puppets are real dogs? Please. That's funny. I like that. I'm glad we got one funny thing today.

Fine. What's the big guy? You're piggybacked off my funny stuff. Yeah. Really.

You're having fun. Finally. Well, we'll play Raleigh ball. I didn't know. I forgot it was a puppet per second.

Okay. I will say that. You didn't see the guys on. See you guys hand in a sock. Actual like a dog long enough.

Eventually. It becomes a dog too. Well, look, if I see a guy's hand in an animal, I freaking. I know what's going on. It don't seem right.

But. You know, that's the show we're counting for. Yeah. That's not hardy. Yeah.

We all know. That's why they run with those chairs of the front. You know, they want to see the show.

That's probably what the first 911 call was all about right there.

There's a man with his hand up an animal over here. But bring up that. Those native American dogs. I do want to know what they were. And I want to see a little jpeg of them or a drawing probably.

If you can see that, please. I'm serious. I want to just want to know which dogs they were. I'm going to get you a hand painted oil based painting of a dog. With just native American things on it.

You know, I mean, like a bow and arrow with feathers and everything. That's it. I should not have any coffee maker planes in the end dogs. American any dogs found across the Great Plains.

“These dogs were essential beasts of burden.”

They were used to pull. These of burden. V shape wouldn't sleds. Called travel. Loaded with meat, household goods and children before horses were introduced.

Wow. So they used dogs to do like field plowing. The salish wool dogs kept by the coast. Salish tribes in Washington state and British Columbia. These small white fluffy dogs were sheared like sheep.

Their thick wool was spun into blankets and textiles. Read the next one. The Zalophone. That's it. The Zalot.

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My guest, Giovanna. And I'm here also today. We're so happy. We're going to look at the bone structure of a Zwalice. Yeah.

Yeah. And they are a native American dog popularized by the Aztecs and Mayans. These dogs were kept as pets, guards and physical heaters. Do to imagine that. I can't even imagine it.

What do you mean? You get the dog tonight. That's fabulous.

“Mexican hairless dog is a wild looking dog.”

Oh, that shit ain't nothing. Look at that little bad boy. Look at the one down there. I see us on. I saw the one you're looking at.

Yeah. Look at that little ball.

If you put him on that commercial with Willie Nelson play and you're always on my mind.

Yeah. I would give him money. Whatever it is. You're always. He looks like he's got farm aids.

Dude, that thing is. That's a front right there. And that was a pretty good joke. Dude, I was really good. Maybe because one after a while.

Yeah. I'm just joking. Shut up Willie Nelson. And for me, dude. I just saw Billy Strings this weekend.

Actually, I went there. And him, Stephen Wilson, Jr. Cheryl Crow, Willie Nelson, Lucas Nelson. They had a show in outside of Austin. Lucas is great.

Stephen Wilson's so talented. So talented man. That's awesome. That's a good idea. Cool thing to see.

Oh. It was just great to be over there, man. How was the acting? Let me think. It was just like a lot going on.

It took like, I wish I had had more time to, like, work on the character. And a lot of his head, we were wearing a lot of hats. Yeah. So when you're doing a lot of stuff, it's a lot.

Yeah. And you think it's not going to be, you know? We were, I was on tour. And we were filming in Park City, Utah, from Marshall. So I was flying every week to Utah, playing three, four days.

Or filming and go play shows and fly back. And I feel like I didn't know enough about the character. Like I was getting the script for like that day. And I didn't know any of the backstory. So when I went and watched it, there were so many things

I've done differently if I don't know this about the character or that. And I would have really enjoyed it if I could have just lived in that world and filmed for a month, you know? Yeah. Also, it's really bothering me a lot just to think about if you knew that that picture

of that dog was on there and you went on a dog, Native American dog rant, just so you could say farm aids. Because if that's the case, one, that'd be awesome. And too, how much preparation would that take? You know what I mean?

That would be coming into interview.

You're like me, you don't have to know any of my song or anything.

But if I can come up with a way to say farm aids with the dog, that'd be awesome. Yeah. I wouldn't, that's insane. I don't know if I'd like the version of you better that did that or the one that just came up with.

I don't know. That didn't. That's good question, actually. Either way, I like you. That's a lot of thought.

Well, thank you. Yeah. I've been sitting here hoping you would. I just decided. Yeah.

I'll under coffee. Think through me all. I knew the jury was out. Yeah. Yeah.

What do you think like? So one thing you said a little while ago,

“you said that like like like a achievements, right?”

Like they'll keep you going. But do you feel a lot of achievement? Like if you achieve something, do you really feel it? Or does it feel like? Like you'll strike me as the kind of guy that feels a lot of like.

Like that sit there and relishes some like if you like something does happen to you. Like you get in the ward. You get this or anything. It's just like part of the thing. Yeah.

I think you get a little numb to it. Especially when you're so busy. You know, you get a little, you don't really. I guess for lack of better terms sit back and appreciate it. I try to make myself live in the moment a little more.

But for me, I look at a lot of the things that happen is like checks. You know, not that I had the goals of accomplishing those things. But I'm like, man, when I, you know, ACM awards, whatever it was, when a couple of awards, CMAs, whatever it is, I'm more looking at like, okay, I got a performance.

That's got to go well. I need to figure out the song and make sure it goes well when it does. And I get the word and I got a little speech or something. I make sure that goes well. And then I'm like, okay, I went well and it's like a little bit of relief. But not necessarily like a accomplish this.

And also, that's just a little bit political.

You know, I mean, the song is always winning.

“And for me, I think I appreciate a lot more a sold out show.”

But when fans are there and they're like singing a song that I wrote and it like I can tell it means something to them. There's a motion like that means more to me than award. Yeah. Do you, but yeah, I guess I'm just wondering like, do you feel like you're good

at like feeling pride for yourself like that sort of thing, you know? Because that's something sometimes I'll struggle with that. It's like, I don't think too much about it. But it's like, man, sometimes that is like, somebody's like, man, do you feel proud of yourself?

I don't feel that a lot of times. Does that make any sense to you? Oh, I think that, I mean, it does make sense. I think that you've got to find things in your life that you do feel proud of yourself about. For me, it's not musical achievements. For me, I feel proud about my form.

I feel proud that I, you know, could put my parents in nice house about my dad to truck, whatever. Those, like, I feel more for that than anything ever bought myself. Right. And like my niece and nephew sending me pictures, my sister

of them catching fish in my lake, like I'm proud of like that. And those are things that I know will last forever. And, you know, I mean, there's a little bit of song writing proud. I think when a song, when I write a song that, you know, I wrote by myself. And it, I think it was good. It made me feel something

and when people relate to it. Like I feel proud about that. But that's a little short lived, you know, like a joke that really lands. I think that you got to find things in life that you constantly want to be attached to. You know, for me, it's stuff like my farm. And, you know, having a little place at the beach or something

in my folks going down there, when people send me pictures of my beach, I'll say, man,

“this is not actually a great time. That's what I feel proud of you, you know.”

Things I never thought I'd have.

Hmm. And where's that? I think you said Panama City Beach. You got to please don't you? Yeah. I was so funny to you.

What did you say? You said those my favorite thing about you? But my favorite thing that I heard do when somebody's like, man, I got me a beach house and a Panama City Beach. I should just make me laugh at this because what I remember of it from being in like a high school in college,

it was just a place where we were just trashed kids. Yeah. You know, so to like, so just to see a text or something, we got a beach house down there. Yeah.

And I know it's a nice beach. I know the Gulf is nice, man. It's like, there's not a part of the Gulf that's not even like built up. Now, man, it used to be so different. Yeah. Now, I'm in, I'm right outside of Panama City and it's a little quieter where I'm at.

But yeah, now we all had our spring break, trips to Panama City. And who's rowdy? Yeah. Um, right now you got, uh, I'm trying to get something that you guys wanted to talk about. That was specific.

Oh, yeah. I'm rallying. Get ready with me. Uh, well, rally gives me a hard time. Um, you got to do that.

That's coming out in September, September 18th, I think. Yeah. That's just me, Jimmy with album. Put three songs off the album out. Last week a song called Go Again.

Uh, they're growing ahead in McFarlane's on that song. Uh, the song called "Think as you drunk." It's my new single "The Country Radio" and the song called "My Way." Uh, there you go. And uh, yeah, the album's going to come.

We're going to put a couple more songs off the album out between now and then. But album would be out to 19 songs. Comes up September, so. Hell, yeah. Do you feel any type of way about this album?

Different than other albums?

Well, answer that question first if you don't mind. Yeah, what's different about this album or what's kind of the same? I think it's, uh, don't mind if I do that record. I think had a lot of different types of songs on it. I think that's something that I did well on that one.

So I made sure this one was the same way. I got a lot of songs that sound like stuff I've written for years. Then I got a lot of songs that are a little different. You know what I got fun, beach songs. I got drinking songs.

I got, you know, love ballads.

“And so I think that that's what I'm excited about the album is.”

I think it's a whole, it's a good project. Uh, but again, I try not to do anything too different in the sense of how I go about putting out music.

You know, it's always what I've done so far is kind of work.

Yeah. What about, like, in your, like, outside of music life, outside of your pharmacy like that? Do you think, um, like you're a guy that probably is an easy time meeting ladies? Do you feel like, like, settling down as in the future?

Like, do you ever think about that? Like, why don't we both? Yeah, I feel like you, you know better than that because you're in that world too. Like, it's really not that easy to meet a girl when you're doing what we're doing. Like, I mean, I'm not going to meet a girl to show, you know.

I mean, I'm, I'm confined to the back, you know, on a bus. And I'm not going to meet a girl on Instagram, you know. I mean, and when you get to a place where people are, you know, it gets tough to know who you're meeting for what. And I always feel like, if I met somebody that was like a fan,

I feel like it would be tough for me to be like, you know. You know, I would look at them. I, you're probably the same way too as I go in a bar. And when people start, you get a little bit like, makes you anxious. Yeah, I mean, I, I don't mind being the center of attention at like a show. Or if I'm in a town, I'm playing a show and I go to a restaurant or bar down the street.

But like, I don't like being the center of attention when I'm not supposed to.

That always makes me feel like I agreed.

I don't like to feel like if I went to another show, and people were asking me for a picture and there was somebody else on stage. That would make me feel really, really rude. And also like a restaurant, it's not that people ask me to picture bothers me. It's just, I don't want to be standing up causing a scene.

Now on the center of attention. Yeah, I like that. So, you know, when you go, like, I'm not going to meet a girl to bar. You've been to losers and duck blind with me. And we sit on the back deck of life and everybody, you know, kind of hiding. Oh, do one of that. I sat out there by myself on loses back porch.

And I was watching Netflix back there. Yeah. Just watching too. I watched two episodes of something. Yeah. So it's, it's tough. I, is it cake? I think it was. Yeah.

I feel like if I could be in one place for a while, like, live somewhere. That's another thing. I don't feel like I live anywhere. I got a house in Nashville. And I stay there every once in a while. I got a farmhouse.

“And you always felt like, yeah, well, you must not.”

Your farm must feel like some type of way to you.

But if you always felt like you didn't live somewhere.

Oh, it's kind of interesting feeling. Bro, I've never heard anybody say that. And I've related to that 100%. Yeah. I've never really felt like I lived somewhere.

Well, my farm is like, but the time I get there, I'm already thinking about I got to leave again. Like, I'm there for two or three days. That's not long enough to really get settled in. You don't want to know which way to go where you're there.

Uh, but no, and I was in a construction work. Playing shows in the weekends, I'd be home every night. Like, that was off. That was, this always felt like home to me. But right now, I just don't live in one place.

You know, I'm flying to LA every week and on the road on the weekends. And but if you think if you keep it like that, though, then you're, do you think that there's a possibility that something could change like you could like, you know, meet somebody, start a family with that type of lifestyle?

No, just right. Not the way it is now. Yeah. It's going to have to change in the sense of like, well, you talked about your coming off tour and not knowing what to do

yourself. Yeah. I've got to get to that point. I would love to try to get bored of being at home. I just, I can't remember the last time I had a week off.

You know, I mean, maybe you're on Christmas. Yeah. But I played shows until January, I mean, December 27 last year. You know, so I mean, it's, it's, it's so if I could end right now, I could take a month off.

All right. But I just can't with everything going on in the opportunities. I've got to kind of make myself do it. So I'm sort of like grind right now, keep me nose down.

So yes, everything. And then in a couple of years, things will stop doing this. No kind of playing off. And I'll have this career. And I'll say, I don't play 40 or 60 shows a year.

I might film a little TV show or movie or whatever. And then I can have a life outside of it. You know, but it's just tough to do right now.

“But do you start to think about trying to, because yeah, because here's the thing.”

Like, there will always be probably, I don't know if there will always be opportunities. But there's always like things you can say yes to. You know, like, are you at a spot where you can kind of cuter it a little bit more and kind of shape it. How you want it? I am.

Are you still, are you still in the space with this little bit of fear of like, if I don't do this stuff, you know? The really fortunate thing I've got going on is right now. My career is in such a upward slant that the things I'm getting asked to do. I can't say no to. Wow, they're host and CMA faster being a coach on the voice.

I mean, you got to think there's one country music artist that's a coach on the voice. I think it's good. I mean, like Blake Shelton, Reeves been on. They're like, it's, it's a, once in a lifetime opportunity. And you got to think about all the people in country music that are so lucky to be where they are and have the careers they are.

And they don't even have that opportunity. Yeah.

Uh, they met with me and, and I, I sort of told them that, you know, they were considering me. I sort of told them that I got what they wanted. They wanted me to want somebody's sort of funny sort of dry that cuts up. And they came to a show and I had a little Q&A with somebody beforehand and we cut up back and forth. And then I went on Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy Fallon and they got me on the couch.

And I, we had a little duck call moment. You know, it was funny. And that's how I got the job, you know, just goofing off doing this. Yeah. Did it feel, did that feel like a like, like, I don't know.

I mean, it's just interesting because it's kind of a mainstream thing. But it's also a thing that kind of like you're saying, yeah, like a, like a tunnel, like it like kind of makes you a tunnel in a way. Like kind of puts you in a different perspective. It's very household. Right.

And it's very outside of the genre of country. So, you know, I would guess that most of my fans are country music fans.

You know, I can tell and I could tell it from the first day of film.

And I'm the least famous person as a coach on the voice right now with the people that are fans of the voice. Kelly Clarkson's been on it forever, Adam Levine's been on it forever. Queen the teeth was on it with me and she's iconically famous, you know. So the fact that I can tell I'm not as well known in that world only tells me how much I'll gain from it because it's putting me in front of so many different people, you know.

“Did you ask somebody like, do I think this is, how fast is the chair go?”

I mean, a little like you would turn normally in an office chair. If somebody said, hey, look at this Native American dog. You know what I mean? Get ready with me while I look at this Native American dog. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. But it's not, it's just not going to throw you out of the chair. Yeah. Okay, got it.

If you had someone sit on your lap when it turns slower, you think it would turn the same amount. I think it's got enough power. You could have two people on your lap and it wouldn't change the speed. I think you go much over that. You're going to ball bearings issue.

I imagine. What was the idea, dude?

I remember we talked one night about this for a few minutes.

You said you had a different idea for how the chair could work. That would be interesting. What was it? I can't remember. I think the chair should start facing the contestant.

Yes. And then you turn away when you don't like it. Okay.

“Now what would be tough about that is you're going to be looking at them.”

Yeah. So, you know, like they're going to take it. It's personal. Yeah. Because the surprise when you turn, you know, sometimes people don't look like they sound.

You know, or it's not who or what you think it is. Right. So there's a little more of a reveal there. But there'd also be a neat reveal if it you turned away. And you're like, you're sitting there and they're singing.

They're just singing. You're like, you're like, you know, you just turn it.

Because here's the thing.

Yes. That would be awkward for a split second. Yeah. Because you'd be making eye contact when you press the button. Turn away.

But then you're facing the other way. You're good. Yeah. Problem with what we're doing now is I'm facing away. And then when I turn to them or don't turn, they still turn your chair.

And then you got to explain to him while you didn't turn. Yeah. Oh, it's tough. Have you got started filming it?

“And do you have like total carte blanche of what you think?”

Like do they, is there any like, are they intervening? Or is it? It's completely unscripted. They don't even tell you like what might be coming up next. When we do like 18 people a day, I think.

And it's a long day. We get there at nine, leave it like nine at night. We're done with the blind auditions now. But that was, it's not, it's not that hard to do. Because it is, it's this.

You know, you're just cutting up. It does get tough to find new things to say when somebody's not quite. Oh, yeah. You know, to imagine that. It's hard to think of anything.

Well, yeah. And if you're trying to think, musically there's only so many terms. And I'm sitting here and I'm like, I don't want to say the same thing over and over again. But sometimes a lot of it is just nerves. A lot of it I've heard people that are, you can tell really talented singers.

But they come on there and it's a very awkward thing. Yeah. Cheers. Face away from you. There's an audience there and then they start seeing them.

They're really winded, which is a nerve thing. You know, you can't kiss a breath. And then by the end, they'll, they'll get it going, you know. But it's a, it's a, yeah. I mean, as people's dreams there, you know.

And we're trying to make it fun to make good television out of it. But that, there's also a lot of really great stories that come out of them. Sure, I'm excited about getting to work with the artists and all that. Dude, I was staying at a hotel. I went, like, whenever they had the freeze and national.

When everything got frozen or whatever you know. Yeah. I had been at the UFC that weekend. And the freeze was like coming on Monday. And everybody's like, wasn't sure what was going to happen.

You know, because you don't know if it's going to be how bad it's going to be. And so I was like, well, I'm just going to get out of town. I was like, I'm just going to go to a, so I went to Hawaii for a few days. Because I was like, it was like, so I'm going to freeze there. Right.

Not going to freeze. And there's one place that I could weather. So I was like, I'm out. And I went with like a security guy. So I had somebody to go with him, right?

Because I was just going to be out there by myself. And he and I stayed at this place. It was all like, people that was like getting married or whatever you know. And then it's me and him meeting like, like, we had like five like romantic, like nice Dan, like candlelit dinner.

Real. Yeah.

Just me and him do a bunch of shoes.

Lot up. Get ready with me. Uh, no, if she was going to light up, dude. He's at Monday. I mean, okay.

Hold on. I don't want to do this on a side note. But what if you had shoes that were like a mood ring? Yes. So when you're just fairly into somebody.

Think about how easy dating would be then. Shoes are just flashing red or green. I guess it would be like, and she's like, oh, he likes me. And what if hers are like flashing just not flashing? And hers are just indifferent.

“No, you need to like her really not into you.”

Need to be a color red probably right. Or we start making that back up. Some of them big trucks back up. Yeah. And she just started to move it.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, God. We should have that. Dude, we have preconceived.

So I have a mood ring works. It's like the heat or blood flow, whatever. You're feet into the same thing. You're 100%. We're not a bit of a socks for them, but big deal.

Some people say your feet like the hands of your leg. Yeah. Now they say that. Yeah.

Dude, the hands of your leg.

Is that what you meant? Yeah. The eyes are the brains of the face. Yeah. From a visual aspect.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean from all of it. But no. Dude, that's exactly what I'm saying.

But no, I think the ears are the elbow of your hand. That's crazy. Come on. They're thinking about it. No.

I'm not thinking about it anymore. What were we talking about? We were talking about it. You were doing good. Have you been in here?

What were we talking about? It was pretty good. No. Now you were talking about. Look, dude.

This whole thing is we're just running a sting operation on the neighbors. Okay. That's all this is about. He's home. Yeah.

He's home. Let's go. Um.

No, I was just going to think.

Yeah. What were we talking about? I want to get through that one idea. Do we get through any ideas on this? You know, uh, I've had a good time.

“Do you think that the guy back there knows what's, I mean, like, what's going on?”

Is he like, you were talking about this? Dude, he sat in here with so many types of people. Sometimes it's one way. I'll say this. Trevor, do you feel like you ever know how one of these conversations going to go?

Never know, man. What bothers me about it is I feel like I should be able to retrace my steps to why I was talking about light up shoes. Oh, you're good dinner with your security art. Oh, romantic dinner.

And this would happen. So right next door and they were doing the show that Luke Brian is on. Or the, uh, America's got talent. America's got talent. American Idol.

American Idol. We respect. And he even called it America's got talent once. Yeah. Correct.

Really? Yes. But now, other people are correct in me because I caught it from him. Yeah. But what I'm saying is, yeah, we're sitting there and right there, they had the show.

Anyway, I was just kind of interesting because for five days, we watched them take this thing right down the beach. Yeah, you know. So was, uh, Luke was in Hawaii? Yeah, it was nice. I got to see him.

I got to meet him. Wait, I met him before. We went fishing like a couple of weeks ago at his place. He loves a fish, huh? Paul Finnsray.

Dude, I'll say this. He's one of them. You know what? He does. He loves that.

“What do you think he likes to fish often drink?”

Fish, huh, golf and drink. He loves to do those things. How do you know that? He's wrote a song about it. No, he didn't.

That's called a fish hunt golf drink. And what else? And something else? No, just those things. That other tip?

Yeah, you can play it if you want. Is it good? It's called, kind of question is that. It's a country classic. I imagine.

Get ready with me while listening. Get ready with me while I go fish hunt. Now, what would you wear for that? Fish hunt golf drink. Dude, I'm fucking.

You don't have to play it right now. No, I don't have to play it. I was put it on here. We'll play it on our imagination. I'll play it on the car on the way home.

I'll add it up. No, he gave me credit for him writing that song. He gave you credit. Or he blamed me. One of the two, yeah.

How we did? Yeah, he said you know that. He texted me and said that we need to get together. It'd been too long. And he said fish hunt golf drink.

Got nice taste. So I was not there. I didn't write the song. It had nothing to do with the song. I didn't even send the text.

I didn't even say that's a cool text. Or you should write a song. I didn't know nothing to do with it. So you'll say that while we're here. Well, I'm going to read some of the right here.

We just read it. Do me favor. Read it like stand up poetry. I have not heard this song. Okay.

So just, you know, like put a little bit behind it. Some passion. Wake up, coffee. Camo. Climetry.

Wetline. So you said wake up coffee like you were saying like good morning moon or good night moon. You did it like that. It was cool. Go ahead.

I'm sorry. Wake up, coffee. Camo. Climetry. Wetline.

Wetline. Golf drink. All fall. All spring. All summer long.

I'll be living it up and living it on. A country boy's dream. Fish hunt. Golf drink. It's all like it.

It's IQ. It's got a little bit of the, like, the caterpillar book too. It's got a hit of the tism. You read children's books. Huh?

Like, for audio book. You'd be great at that. Yeah. Thanks, man. Fish hunt.

Golf drink. Fish hunt. Golf drink. I wouldn't mind that. I'm trying to think.

Well, I don't need to be drinking, but fish in.

I would love to go. I want to take you to a country sure. Will you really? Yeah. You just got to like, I know that your is bad as me about.

Schedules on stuff. But I'm not going through management to do it. So I'll just text you and be like, "Hey, man. I got these days." He was a busy guy.

You were down in Pensacola. You were going to somewhere as Barbados or something. What? Yeah. I don't think I've been to Barbados, man.

Yeah. Well, I guess you didn't go in. So sketch one. Where are you going next? You're just making up names.

It's a way to city. Is that what you say? No, that's a real place. So sketch one? It's in Canada.

No, it's beautiful up there.

I've been up there. It's in. Is that next. What's the one next to Edmonton? The big apple.

No. Edmonton. Yeah. That's what I mean, yeah. You don't know what they call it there.

Bro, I didn't know you were so funny, dude. I thought you got it. I was trying to tell you.

“I was honestly going to tell you how funny I was at my birthday party when you just got”

you piece of cake and ran out the door. I don't even want to hear that. I saw this back. Dude, I came to your party. You hated it.

No, thanks for coming. I'm out of here. No, thank you for coming. I left because you weren't having fun. Dude, you wouldn't.

And also. No, here's the thing. You came to my surprise party and you didn't even want to be there. That's how bad it is. You were downstairs sitting by yourself and the back deck of losers.

You're like, I'd rather be down there than in this room with these people in this celebration. Dude, I was watching a series.

I was on the third episode.

Yeah. You know, it's like, people are trying their best. You know, not everything's going to be just for you, Riley. We didn't know what would be really fun. Is if you did a get ready with me to go to my birthday party.

Man, I do it all at shit, bro. You got me messed up. Let's do one get ready with me. You got me messed up. I'll pick what yours is.

You can pick what mine. I probably can't do it. Get ready with me. Yeah. Oh, that might not be a bad idea.

Really, if we thought of some good ones. Yeah. One of what years it'd be, dude. Get ready with me while I go be an asshole somewhere. That's why I would pick too.

I guess we're. But won't you pick for mine, though? Get ready with me while I go to the pound and try to find a native American dog. And I would bring like some sage or something with me. I feel like you would go to a dog park.

Like, so it's just a native American dog park.

“Like, you can, is it, or is it just all regular dogs?”

Or is there any dogs that are there? There's like a burial ground there or something. Maybe I would. That's the talent to ask weird questions, though. To be able to come up with them.

You know what I mean? Yeah. I guess I don't know, man. I don't have a ton of like a lot of times it's just like, you know, we're going to catch up.

You know, I know that you have a lot going on in your life. So I was glad to get to catch up. And yeah, I mean, doing something like a voice. It's kind of like, you know, your country musician. You're respected by people in that world.

And you've had a lot of success in it. And then you kind of, there's something that's a bit more of like a commercial appeal, which is awesome. And I understand like you're, you understand like your perspective on it. And I don't know.

I just think it's interesting. You know, it's interesting how things come along in life. Because some people probably say no to things. Some people probably say yes to things. Well, the interesting thing about a career like we've got is you're kind of in charge of

success. You can be, I mean, yeah, things have to go well. People have to like whatever art you create where there's comedy, music, whatever. But like, if you don't go do the stuff, you're not going to get the opportunity. And I can't tell you how many things I've gone and done that necessarily on paper

were not going to be beneficial or financially worth doing. But there was an opportunity there that led to something else that led to something else. That's how the voice was. All that and stuff that I've been able to do so far. And you know, I mean, think about stand up comedians, how many of them that are, you know,

household names have been really successful. Only have done stand up. They've all acted or been on some other platform or saturday night live, whatever. Even the, even the like guys that were just great stand up guys like Eddie Murphy and Dave Chapella and they all had other avenues after, I mean, yeah, you almost know Eddie Murphy better now

for his acting. You know, and that's a great stand up comedian. Yeah, I mean, I bet there's a lot of people that wouldn't know that he was a stand up comedian. That's what I mean. And if you didn't get your start on Saturday night live, that's kind of how you branch

out and do something else because I feel like in comedy would probably be much worse

“because you have to come up with so much more material.”

Whereas music, you can be now about and tour for a year off of it. And you still play some of those songs for years to come. But you have to be whole lot more creative regularly in comedy. But if that's all you did, they would get really monotonous after a while. You get tired of it.

The only time I ever got tired of music was 2014, 15, 16 in there and I was playing the same club, same being used over and over again, playing the same songs and it got to be where I just didn't look forward to it. You know, just long things are growing and you can find other things like,

Are there different tours that you get asked to do? How often does that happen with an artist? I've been really fortunate that I've had a pretty good tour in business for the last 10 years. So, I have to turn down some tours because I can make more money to earn them home. Plus I feel like there's a little bit of if you get caught in that opening hack role,

it's hard to get out of it.

“You never go because, you know, like, what's open for somebody's grave?”

Because one year guaranteed money. If it snows in the venue shuts down, you still get paid. You don't have to pay for production, cater, anything like that. So there's no overhead and you get in front of a new fan. So it's a great way to get some exposure.

But if you don't go play your own show, you're not building a fan base. Right? As people have to be there to see you.

So for me, I always, if I went open for somebody and played a stadium or arena,

I'd go back up with a club there after and try to get the most out of it if I could. But yeah, I don't do any real open slots anymore. So it's nice. Yeah. Oh, no, I mean, it's definitely nice. And sometimes I forget about the work that I have done.

I forget about all the spots that I've played. I forget about all the time I put in on that. So you get there and you remember something about the backstage of the green room. Looks familiar. Like, oh, I've been here. Yeah, happens with me all the time.

Yeah. Right. Now you have the cowboy as it gets tore. Who's open out? Who's working with you on it? Justin Moore, Randy Houser.

Oh, nice. I got him Drake White, Hannah McFarlane McKinsey carpenter. I kind of try to have a parade of first, first to four and second to four guys and girls. Just because I like having people out that, you know, get given opportunity to get from a bunch of fans.

Really fortunate that all these shows are selling out. We've got big crowds and it's so cool, dude. Yeah, man. God, I wish I could freaking sing you freak. Sorry.

That's pretty good turkey call though.

Yeah, but all me, yeah, but I meet, you know, I'm saying, let it turkey call. I saw you sing my song. Oh, you're gonna. What the hell are you saying? Oh, yeah, dude.

“I missed it. We got there the next day, I think.”

Oh, I think we got there. We ended it out. We didn't get to play. I thought you were there. Yeah, dude.

That was great, bro. You tell me your nervous. Yes. I was freaking nervous, dude. That's such a, that's such a,

Well, it was such an easy song in a sense of the crowd, knows every word and the talking versus know that, you know, it's the least you're to do, but I'll bring people up out of the crowd to do it. Sometimes. Oh, you will?

Yeah. Oh, dude, that's cool, bro. Yeah. Well, the tough part was like, I knew the song,

but then when you ever respond to ability to do the words,

you're like, you know what kind of set you like? All right. Now I have like, I got to do the response. We started thinking about it. Right.

Yeah. And then the craziest part, this part was kind of funny. My, my buddy, we wrote the notes down on the words on the cards. We wrote the words on the cards on a poster boards. And so he's staying in there with him by the side of the state,

just in case, right? Yeah. And then, but I did need him. I started doing good in my brain and I didn't need him. And so he started shaking the card.

He's getting pissed and I'm not looking at the cards. He made these cards. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, dude.

I don't need him. Yeah. You're here for having happy that you didn't need him. Right.

“You should have just been with slow self.”

He should have been ripping him up and throwing him in the air, or something. But he's sitting there like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, and just giving me like a bunch of grief or whatever, you know, just like a bunch of poster board grief or whatever.

And so yeah, I don't know. That was kind of a lot. But um, and then it was windy and my hat kept coming off. And I kept having a cowboy hat on. Yeah, yeah.

I kept having to get it. And I was like, dang, I wish they made a really heavy hat. Or a hit or went that rock. A chin strap. Yeah, come on.

You kept going. You think I'm wearing a cowboy hat with a chin strap on it? Just for tons, man. I can't read lyrics. You're hilarious.

And saying, you know what, you can't what? I can't read lyrics and sing. I've got to just know it. You know, like a teleprompter, whatever I can't. Oh, yeah.

And so if I look out in the crowd and read a sign or something while I'm, I just, I'll forget who I am. And that's me all up. I can't read anything. I can't look at you by sign on the crowd when I'm singing.

Well, it's two different things. Totally. I would rather know. Rather than guess, then be reading something. You know, just take my chances with whatever is going to come up in my brain.

But. Which would be anything. Yeah. Which is kind of the best thing. Your brain is just.

Sometimes it is. Yes, like it got some champagne. Some of the bubble just comes right up. And that's a new idea or something like that. I love that.

That's not everything in my being alive is just seeing kind of what comes out of your brain. Yeah. And other people's brains. I think it's interesting. But yeah, man.

I felt lucky to get to do y'all song. So yeah, I was happy. I got to see some clips over you. I was happy to get to do it. Oh, dude, once I got out there and and realize that I could sing.

It was over dude. I was like. I was a, I was a singer. We'll find one you can do with me. We'll come out to show.

We'll get you out to do one. Yeah.

Get ready with me.

“Get ready with me to go sing with Rally Green.”

I think I did.

Um, you have your new album.

It's out on the 18th. Yup. That's it. September 18th. That's just me.

Um, you have three singles that are already out from it. Yes, sir. Excellent. And, uh, and the biggest it gets toward. No.

Cowboy is it gets to her. It's just way on the slide. It'll be easy. I'm Rally Green. And it's the Cowboys it gets to her in 2026.

You know what this is like.

“This is like, honestly, when you're having a rocky day at work.”

And when your voice shows up and helps you out. That's what this is. Oh, it's exactly what I'm saying. Yeah. That's exactly what this is.

So thank you, bro. Yeah. Thank you for showing up. You know, if you ever need me to come in when you got somebody cool here. Did that you're doing?

I'm just still in the couch and, you know, I just held. Dude, just coming to my part. Yeah. Dude, you're good at this, man.

You're really good at this.

Oh, watch your show. This past weekend with the oven. I watched it. I appreciate that, man. I'm saying some creative stuff on here.

Yeah. We have over time, you know, sometimes it's not all gold. But, man, if you sit here and talk for what two hours. There's bound to be something funny in there. Oh, there's fun stuff.

Man, I mean, I don't know. It's been interesting. Sometimes you find different things. Sometimes you learn stuff. Sometimes you don't learn stuff.

No, I enjoyed that it's, uh, there's some seriousness in there, you know. Oh, yeah, I mean, sometimes you get a lot more serious. It just kind of depends, you know.

“I think I can't tell if it has to do with my energy or”

it has to do with the gas energy. It's probably just both of us in whatever's going on, you know. Well, I feel like there's a lot of places where mean you're in a similar spot with life outside of our careers. Yeah.

You know, so maybe we didn't talk about that enough. We did okay, though. Yeah, but we can do like a real deep thing. You know, we just share one mic and sit in the install on the floor. We just candles and do it.

You know what I mean? Oh, I know what I bring my Indian dog with me. If you can get your hands on one. Yeah, there's a one out there. Riley Greenman.

Thanks so much, bro. Thanks for the music. Thanks for the entertainment. Thanks for the entertainment today, dude. You're a funny guy, bro.

I didn't realize that. And I know it's a weird thing to say to somebody else. But thanks for making me laugh. That's what I mean. I appreciate it.

I know it's fun. And congrats on all the success. And I'll have to get out there and check out one of the shows this year. Something you're going to get us to. You're going to, you're going to get some good spot.

God. Yeah. I'll be out there. Riley Green, ladies and gentlemen, thank you, brother. Appreciate it.

Yep. Now I'm just falling on the breeze. And I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I must be calm and stalled. But when I reach that ground, I'll share this piece of mine.

I found I can see it in my bones. Though it's going to change. [BLANK_AUDIO]