The data center war

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Okay, so a couple weeks ago, I've read a story in J.T.com, and it was all about how there's a day-to-setter going up in Comberland, County, the poorest county in New Jersey. That's receiving some community pushback. And this has immediately got my attention, because data centers are going up all across the country, and it feels like an issue more people should be talking about.

According to a once down I saw, there's more than 4,000 data centers already across America, and more than 2,000 that have been announced or are already under construction. That's kind of crazy. I feel like we should be hearing politicians talk more about this, but we haven't really heard a consensus.

One member of Congress told me that he wants to see a moratorium on data centers, but the center told me recently that he thinks they're a necessary evil as things like AI become a bigger part of our economy and our society. So, that let me think, let's do some journalism ourselves, and figure out what people actually think.

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community pushback on it. So much so that data one has actually delayed its plans for expansion. And this has also been showing up in the political arena too. Southern New Jersey is home to New Jersey's second congressional district and there's some Democrats who have been making this the focus of their campaigns hoping to really seize

the community backlash on the issue. One of those Democrats is named Bailey Winder, who we're going to talk to in the second. Now Bailey's a young person who's really tried to throw town halls on this issue. He spoke to City Council and he's really been saying that the community was not included in the process by which this data center went into construction.

And there's a lot of concerns on the energy front, on the environmental front, and simply just a lot of noise. So I want to try to untangle this and let's figure out what's actually going on here. Thank you for being our tour guide here. I appreciate the chance to be with you.

“Can you just give us a sense of like what we're outside right now?”

This is the new data center in vinyl and New Jersey, we're here in Cumberland County, and just look at the size of this thing. It is gigantic. Give me a sense of the scope of this thing, like how large are we talking about? How far does this extend?

It is huge and we're talking 350 megawatts, 2.6 million square feet.

But one thing I say to people is, until you're in front of this, you see it in person. It's hard to put it in perspective. This is not just another project. It is something that's one largest data center in the whole Northeast. Did people know this was happening?

Was there a community input like before we get to the sense of backlash now? Take me with a happy end. Sure. So one of the big frustrations, one of the big reasons why there have been so many concerns

“when the community is because of what you're pointing to, which is I think the process”

was expedited, and it was shoved through. And a lot of facts, we know that, or is that something that's possible? That's based on what I'm hearing from people in the community. And there are a lot of concerns about energy in the environment and all. Part of it is plain and simple that this is a hyperscale sized data center.

And a lot of folks here in Vineland across South Jersey felt like they were not notified until it was too late until this had already taken off. And if you look at what's happening across city council meetings, which is the first way that I really got involved with this issue, back in last fall, we are not going anywhere. Not next week, not next month, not after a postpone vote.

Because this issue is doing something powerful, it is bringing the community together,

left, right, and center.

interests versus big corporations and versus political deals that enable them to get

the red carpet rolled out. Most city council meetings people don't show up, right? Local politics are to get people to turn out. These city council meetings were packed. I mean, standing room only, because people were saying, wait a minute, what is going on

here, where was our consultation? Yeah. And why haven't we had more town halls, more chances to have it back and forth? The writing is on the wall for what lies ahead for our city and you sit here staring blankly or doodling on your papers.

There are still steps you can take to speak up and protect us from potential harm. We have reached out to council on multiple occasions, both here and personally. I'm here to offer that conversation again.

“We're ready to talk to you, you need to meet us here.”

We're mostly here for two reasons specifically, like one, we want to think about the issue of data centers. Like, I'm kind of wondering, is this about process or people thinking that things are changing too quickly around them, it's about energy costs, this is about, you know, the noise is or inconvenience, that's kind of one question in my head.

But another one that's just kind of thinking about, like, where Democrats are going to go on this, I've heard politicians say everything, like, there needs to be a moratorium one data centers to saying things like, they're kind of a necessary evil in our, like, age of AI.

I let's start with a second one, like, we're from where you see it.

You know, one could say that this puts something like Comberland County in the present that it helps create jobs for our changing work economy. What's your response to that? My response is that I'm pro-development, but I'm pro-responsible development, and I think the way this project is developed has not put the community first and has not had enough

community input. So we know AI is here to stay, we know this sector is going to be part of what drives the American economy for decades to come. But the consequences of something like this once it's up and running are huge. But what I'm here for you doesn't sound like a, like, a complete opposition to a data center

in this community or even, you know, development like this overall.

“It sounds like the concern is more in how this happened, at least right now, is that fair?”

My belief is that we need to have a short-term moratorium nationwide on data center development because it's moving too fast and because the impact is extreme in some cases. So I don't think that should be years and years, but I think the government needs to intervene right now and make sure that there are guardrails in place. I had read that the Commonwealth County was the poorest county in New Jersey.

I want to circle back to that with the question of jobs. Data one would say they're helping provide a service for a community that needs it. I guess what I was hearing you say is the process has been the problem. So data centers are a pretty extractive type of project because the energy consumption, the way they're developed and then they talk about a few hundred jobs.

Well, first of all, there's no guarantee that those jobs will come into fruition.

That's sort of based on a corporate pitch. Yeah. It's good and I think you need independent verification of that and you need close monitoring of that. Another thing I'll say is that at one of the city council meetings I spoke at a union group

came and said, if you're going to have jobs for this project, at least have them be union jobs. And that does not happen on the scale that I think is sufficient either. But there's a reason I believe why a lot of data centers are coming into communities where they think they can come in aggressively without a lot of pushback, partially because of what

you just said. Is it the happenstance that this is going up in the community of most need? Maybe doesn't have the same type of political agency. I mean, I've seen some of the protests that have been here and places across the country. What do you think is most driving this backlash to data centers?

And do you think kind of federal politicians are hearing you? So I think people are just concerned about their day-to-day life.

“This is a kitchen table issue where here in New Jersey life is so expensive already with”

taxes with the cost of housing and education you name it. So energy bills are already unaffordable for a lot of folks. And the concerns around this are that it's not credible to have something of this size without creating more impact there. That's what I was going to ask.

Do we know, causally, that this raises New Jersey's energy prices? Well, what we do know is that nationally data centers are about 5% now of electricity consumption. What we do know is that this project's development has coincided with a large spike in energy bills. And it's not credible to me that there's zero correlation there.

I think part of the problem that you're speaking to is the lack of information though. Yeah. I think it's important to recognize that this is something that is so novel that we don't know a lot of what's going to happen and that's what's driving some of that fear. Yeah.

Yeah. I hear what you're saying that it's not necessarily that we have all this clear evidence that this data center leads to higher energy prices or inherently displaces all these folks. But we do know that this is happening so quickly and this is so new that it's driving

a lot of anxiety among these people. Right. I heard that data wanted to lay the hearing with the city council after some of this public pushback. I at least to mean kind of one of my final questions like, do you think that they're hearing

And part of the reason we've seen delays, part of the reason we haven't seen some of the

proposed expansion is because the community's pushing back. Absolutely. So we organized a rally about a month and a half ago and it was not just me. It was multiple organizations coming together, including environmental groups. That rally was really well attended.

It was people who were Democrat Republican independent coming together because one thing about this issue is it's bipartisan in the community concern. We held that rally. We had a bunch of different speakers and several days later, the Violence City Government decided to postpone a vote by two months on whether or not to expand the site.

I wonder if how much of your position is reflected in constituency? Do you think residents are on your side in terms of maybe just wanting to pause but kind of recognizing where AI plays its role in the future? Or do you think it's a more full-scale opposition where they want this data center gone and they don't want one of these here again?

I think the opposition is very strong.

“That's why I get messages all the time on social media from people who are really worried.”

This data center is underway and we're not going to get it fully canceled but there are measures that can be taken in the next couple of months when it comes to the possibility of expansion. Tax breaks, water usage, and that's really where my focus is on being a pragmatist about this and understanding that we can have legislation that can include those protections

but there's no way this project should have happened in this way. It's actually an insult to the community and what it's done is create, I think, a story we've seen a million times before in America but that's now on a scale that's really scary which is I think of it in terms of is a big district I'm driving around a lot. This data center project was in the easy past lane and community concerns have been stuck

in the traffic in the right-hand lane and that's a disconnect that I think is unacceptable. We have a kind of a stereotype about how hard it is to build in America and how many how much red tape is put up before things go up and it's kind of like we're describing a process here that's the opposite. Then when it's come to these sorted things they've gone up fast enough or folks don't even feel like they've had a moment for that kind of community

concern.

“I think it's a great point because when it comes to affordable housing part of how we unlock”

that is critical thinking around bureaucracy and red tape there's a lot that can be cut

down there. The question is how did a project of this size get up and running so fast? Okay, so now can you actually drive me around this data center so we can get a sense of just the scope of this thing? Absolutely, let's do it. Oh right, so about how big is violence?

Fine-land, it's one of the larger cities in the district but it's also as you can see around here there's just a lot of lands. So yeah, I got to say like you know it's not that I expected the data center to be aesthetically pleasing but they have made this maybe the most other aesthetically pleasing structure humanly possible. The immediately comes to mind is like prison like but it's just the kind of

drab brutalism block it is it's very imposing it's very cold I think you can understand why folks around here are concerned about their property prices yeah I've talked with people who said I'm petrified about not being able to sum my home yeah and yeah there is there we are 20 million gallons of water per year and when you think about the risks these days of extreme weather in the summertime right you're gonna have situations where

the farmers are competing for water with this yeah yeah yeah yeah well thank you for driving me around I really appreciate it absolutely thank you so much yeah we're gonna be at the town hall tonight support for today explained comes from vanta every new tool your team signs up for every vendor that turns on AI features every new integration has a chance for something to go wrong

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in his run for Congress. So we've decided to join along with him in his latest town hall to see what residents are actually thinking about it. Let's take a look. We're going to go ahead and get the ball roll on here. My name is Bailey Winder, running for Congress in this year's election. Hoping to bring some change to South Jersey, bring some new leadership to South Jersey. We are here tonight to talk about a number of things,

but first and foremost to talk about an issue that I know matters a lot across this community

across the country. That is data centers and the way that they are being developed, the way that

“they are getting approvals are not getting approvals and who is stepping up and I think it's really”

important that we understand that this is something that is happening all over the place and it's also something that's bipartisan. It really doesn't feel left versus right to me. It feels more like are you standing with the community or not? Are you putting the community first or not? I think the message in this case is you have government looking out for the wrong people and having the wrong set of priorities. So I'll stop there. I thank you so much and I'll look forward to hearing your thoughts.

Done. Just as a federal legislature, what would you offer as far as legislation to help protect the state and the industry? There's a host of answers for that. I'll start with the data center point specifically, which is that I believe we need a pause in order to make sure that the guardrails are in place. It's not saying we don't want development. We do want development. We want jobs. We want South Jersey's economy to become stronger, but it cannot happen at the expense

of the community. I would imagine with Finance and Council, they probably like you or like I don't know the specifics of how much pollution is in the air and how you measure all that. So I would imagine that you would also rely on people that are experts in that field to tell you what would be acceptable or what would not be acceptable or what the threshold should be with and it should be. So that would be something that would happen through, I guess, the DEP? Well,

“I think the DEP plays a role in it, but part of what you're pointing to, which is a problem across”

our country, and I was that experts and science is not being invested in. And we have to understand that this technology has been around for a while, but it's also novel in some ways.

When the data one CEO came to do his presentation, he said this is technology we've never seen

before. Right. Well, that could be a good thing, but that's also a scary thing to hear. Experiment. Right. Experiment down here. We're the getting things. Right. And where are the getting that? Exactly. Exactly. How many employees are, is this place supposed to bring? Yeah, it's a good question. They say a couple of hundred. A couple of hundred. Two and a half

of fine length. Okay. How can they support that? How can that possibly be supported

“with today's credit? Right. One thing that happens in this country is there's no planning”

for the future. And the government, we're certainly doesn't seem to be that we're planning out.

Our infrastructure is never updated. You've got to invest in here and not

just looking at somebody's building because who benefits with that building? It's not the people of this town. Right. Where the hell are you going to stay? What's going to happen? So it's some of my house. I told you, I didn't think that I was going to stop that. But where? And because I need to know where my children are, my husband passed my mom passed and it's time to go where they are. People come in. I have a woman who came back. Twice had cash and realized

it was near the data center for children. And mom, she says, I just can't do this. Yeah. We're going to people are going to do this. Yes. That's right. This is not about abstract politics. It's about people's everyday lives and livelihoods and quality of life.

“I thank you all so, so much. Really appreciate you being here and taking the time.”

I hope we can talk more and grateful for the conversation. And we're just going to have

asked them to block scenes for us to come up here and ask them to keep what? Excellent. So my name's Ed Ferris. I'm a policy journalist. I post a podcast at box. That's all about elections. It's called America. Actually, I would love to ask you all just a couple like show of hands, questions to get a sense of how you're feeling about this. And then maybe we'll hear some individual stories. How many of you right now feel like you got information about the data center

before the construction started? No. No, bye. Okay. Can someone raise their hand and just tell me what their biggest concern was once they started hearing about it? Well, when I saw it, I thought it was the ugliest thing I've ever seen. So that part of

East Island is beautiful. Farboid and was beautiful farmland. But then of course, I thought about

a lot of my friends that live out that way and how it was going to impact their everyday life. Most people live there because they love the farmland. Now, I know about the structure I know about the kind of energy concerns. I wanted to ask about AI generally. Like how many of you would say that you're concerned about this data center are tied to larger concerns about AI and kind of something's either around that? The internet interests, the best of the world

and the worst of the world. It's already begun. You know, I scroll through Facebook and there's an AI at all over the place. Some of its cute little bunnies and cats, but a lot of the other stuff, you know, and it's bad. Again, our government is very slow to react. There has to be some regulation. Last question would be, where would you now put this on your scale of issues? There's so much happening right now, whether it be worn around their tariffs as someone mentioned

or just generally there's so much going on. I wonder where data centers and this specific local reality now for you all maps onto your importance of issues? I would say most of the topics fall into two categories. Is it benefiting people or is it benefiting the elite and the money that's going into their pockets? You know, we say people trading before the war is announced and they're benefiting from it and I just find it all very disgusting.

Yeah, I'm sure it's getting inside our information. Here we're just saying, well one hand, there's a kind of politics way of thinking about this and one bucket or another, but you're like, it actually feels like in general they're not responding to you, the regular

“person and that's across a lot of issues. Yeah, that's how I say it.”

I feel the same way. Everything relates from the top down and what we're getting from the top has spread all the way to the local level and it isn't good. Thank you all for for entertaining our questions and I think while I think it's illuminating the here, the way these issues are connected for people and I think just this general sentiment that folks fill on her. And we know what you know that way. We are that way. Yes, I agree.

Thank you all for your time. We really appreciate it. Now we just finished talking to violent residents about this data center and I think you got us a lot closer to figuring out what people actually think about this issue. Now let's recap what they said. They're mad about the process and the substance of this. They feel as if they were included in the conversation and they're also seeing things like their electricity bills go up and things like

energy prices go up. Now we don't know if their electricity bills are directly related to the expansion of this data center but it's driving the political backlash and that's clear

that data centers are a necessary evil, I think they've got another thing coming to them

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