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Hey guys and welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush. I am Gigi Dice and today I am sitting down with former Sirati President. These women have seen it all and definitely know where the bodies are buried. And who knows if they didn't start up a little chaos themselves? You're about to find out here in this episode of Dirty Rush.

Before we get into our callers for today's episode, I wanted to talk a little bit about Rutgers and what I remember in our former presidents. I was in Zeta Tau Alpha and I remember rushing my freshman year and just thinking my president was so pretty, so perfect, she had it all together and she really did. Like she was definitely someone that the Sirati sisters did look up to.

Then throughout the former years, obviously she graduated that year when I joined Zeta. But throughout the years, it just seemed obviously like a lot of work and a lot of responsibility. Dealing with finances, girls being judicial, etc. It just really seemed like there was a lot on their plate. So then throughout the years of being in a Sirati, I was a part of social chair.

So I kind of saw what these girls in my Sirati were dealing with, especially being president. They dealt with a lot behind the scenes and just kind of tried to keep everything afloat.

So they definitely had lots of responsibilities, a lot on their plate, but they always seemed

to have it all together. Besides those one or two times during chapter where they would freak out because something happened that they did not expect. And typically when that happened, it was stupid miscellaneous things like Sirati sisters getting to drunk at a party or throwing up on the party bus during a date night or formal and us having to pay a cleaning fee or something silly like that.

It was nothing detrimental thank God, but I felt like behind the scenes and just seeing what they did. They definitely just dealt with everything internally. Things that we didn't know, like I stated with nationals, the finances of the Sirati

“and what we needed to basically fund our Sirati. So that's why living in the house was so important”

in my Sirati because that obviously funded a lot of what we did.

Now we are going to get into our first caller. This is a former president and she is going to

remain completely anonymous. Hey, welcome to Dirty Rush. Hi, thanks for having me. So yeah, I was president of my Sirati. I was in a pocket of say the name or where it was or anything like that just because it's still something that's like very important to me. And yeah, I but I can say that my sorority was of really had a really large presence on our campus. We went to a really big public school and we had about 200 members of our

chapter and it was like a really prominent chapter across the U.S. And so it had very specific guidelines that you had to adhere to. We were big on reputation and the advisors had a lot of oversight. So it was definitely not an easy gig being president. Yeah, I could only imagine. So what made

“you want to become the president of your Sirati? Honestly, I think my experience is a little”

bit unique in the fact that most of the presidents that had come before me had been and it's like, I don't even want to say this because my my experience with being president was is a little bit conflicted, like conflicting because while it was such an honor to be chosen by my chapter, it wasn't something I initially ever thought, not ever, but I didn't think it would happen.

Basically, every other president before me had never been, basically, if you had been a broad

your first semester. So I'd been a broad my first semester my junior year and then presidents were typically president, you know, second half of their junior year and then into like we're on quarters. So it was like winter court, it was like it was by the calendar, scratch all that. Presidents were were nominated on the calendar year. So you would be president for 2025 or 2025. So it would go like spring and to fall. Yeah, spring and to fall. Right. Exactly. So they would

kind of like re up by the time recruitment was starting. No, no, because ours because our recruitment was in the fall. It started before. Okay, ours was in the spring. Recruitment happened at the beginning of every academic year. Actually, no, I'm so lying. Our recruitment was fall as well. So you would kind of, yes, okay. So you would bring in the new members and then that's when your time was up, basically, after winter break. Yes, exactly. So like we recruited every year

at the top of the academic year and then you would get a new president or new board of exec, whatever, everyone at the top of the calendar year. And the point of that was to make sure that like, you don't have just like a fresh new president recruiting people. Like, and that the new president would get to know all of the, you know, new members of the story. But I was abroad. My fall quarter, we were on quarters. My fall quarter of my junior year. And typically, if you had gone abroad,

you were not able to become president because you didn't just recruit, like you didn't know

“all the new members that were in your sorority. So like, people were like, who is this girl?”

But basically, and I also had not been a member of exec, which was, but I had been social chair of my sorority. And I basically applied, not thinking I would ever get it, just because typically there are whispering on like who would become president. And our year, I just think there were other

applying for a job. And you want to make it seem like, like, I really wanted recruitment chair. But I was like, okay, I'll click president because I want to make it seem like I would want to do everything or like, I wouldn't just want to do the fun job. Yeah, like that. I can fit any, yeah,

“requirements that you give me, basically, like I applicable to do it all. Yeah. And I remember,”

and this is me, it all sound really bad. It wasn't all just bad. But I remember getting the call

that I, and they were like, you're our first call. And we're calling it, you know, ask you,

you accept the position of being president of exec chapter. And I was abroad in Portugal with my boyfriend at the time. And he had this video of me like stepping into the, out of the bathroom on our hotel room. And I was on the phone. And he was like, what did they say? And I was like, um, they asked me to be president. And this was like a huge deal because our chapter was so big and Greek life was just a big part of my college experience. And also our sorority in particular had a lot of rules that came from

national. So like, people don't really know this until you're like on the inside of it, but like from sorority to sorority, whether you're in alpha, the, or pifi, or theta, or kappa, or whatever, on a national level, all the rules within your sorority, you have to adhere to the schools, like pan Hellenic rules. And then also to like the rules nationally from your specific sorority that apply to your sorority across all different campuses. And ours in particular had like

very specific rules that other sororities did it. And like it just made the job a little bit harder.

Um, and so I remember he was like, and I was someone who was like, always just had a plate

that was a little bit too full in college. Like I just, I would do too many classes. I, I always had an internship or a job because I needed to work. And like being sorority president is a full time,

“unpaid job. And I remember he was like, I don't think you should take it. And I was like,”

I can't say no. And I was also like, no, I, I think I'm up for the challenge, like I can do it. Yeah. And, and I think I don't regret it. Like, but it did take a serious tour. I would say, on like just my mental health because of how much like the position required. And like, I don't think people understand you as the president are looking at every single thing that has to do with your sorority. So how much power did you actually have? You have like, you have all the power.

Yeah. Beyond just like, you can make any rules or any decisions, boring, what, you know, your advisor or the school says you can't and can't do or whatever. But with like that power, it becomes comes like a ton of responsibility. And you want to make the right decision. And how do you know what's the right decision? You're also like, 19, 20 years old, dealing with everything, basically running, running your entire chapter. And a chapter is like,

it's at the end of the day, it's a business. Like, you are managing with the help of like your

finance chair, a budget of over a million dollars that has to do like with housing, everything that

has to do with your house. And we had a to like a double lot, 60 girl house that like we had to manage with complete with chefs and staff and a house mom and everything that that was a big part of it. And like we would have like four to five events a week that I had and I was required to attend every single one of them. Wow. And I was a junior and my friends at the time like, would come to some of them with me? But you really weren't required to go to events as you got

older. It was practically the freshman and sophomore as that had to go. Exactly. And our freshman and software was so cool that like, and I got like to know them really well. And I also lived in the house with them. That's right, because as a president, you're required to live in the house, right? Yes, you're required. And all my friends were like living in apartments off campus. So I think that piece of it is a little bit ice can be a little bit isolating, but a lot of friends

“who are on exact and stuff. I just almost feel like you should be president when you're younger and”

more involved in your sorority as opposed to being like a junior and senior because it would be like half of your junior, half of your senior year. Yeah. So anyways, that is kind of just a brief overview.

and I do think it's something like you can put on your resume and people see that's really great. Oh my gosh, like you did that. That's wild. Like, and everyone knows like it's a lot of just like, thankless work. And you're not only, it's like you're running like a business, but every member of the business is like your best friends and that can get a little dicey. I'm sure you were,

“I mean, you see him amazing, but I'm sure you were so loved. Like, did everyone in your sorority?”

Love you, fear you. What do you think? Like, I don't know that I was ever, I also would give like just to be honest. I think I was a little bit like, and this might give me a trouble, but I was a little like, okay, if I'm going to take this job or this role, I'm like going to do it my way. And every

most of the presents that I had known basically, like the requirement was that you were sober at all

events and that like you had to be just this like pristine example. And I already had like internships and a great GPA and whatever. And I was just like, that'll be my example I'm setting, but like, there's no way I'm going to five events a week. And I'm going to be sober. Like, I just was like, there's no way. And especially also going into junior year you're turning 21. And then it's finally, this is your last year at your university. So yeah. And so I would give my, I would say I was

like a BB plus president. I wasn't in a plus. Like, okay, but I feel like every president breaks that role. Like, I would see my president at like in Zeta and like, they were hammered all the time. I ours at ours, they were not like they took it very seriously. Oh, maybe I shouldn't take that. Maybe I'm going to get my president. Okay, but I also graduated college now. This is almost like three years ago. So it's totally fine. But like other presidents and other sororities could or they

whatever. And I like actually lived with another president at the time or no. I was just really close.

I had lived abroad, but like was really close with another president at the time. And she would always

like get drunk and it was about like our advisor was really of our specific chapter. Was just pretty strict on it. But I just was like, there's just no way. I'm, I'm going all these

“events and like. So I think I was pretty loose with people and more friendly. But if like,”

I don't know, I also think like girls that were pretty smart and like there wasn't anything that I was going to say or do that was going to make them act in a different way. Like we definitely had a standard that we had to upkeep. But we always got like high SGPA on the row. And I don't know. I think we're all like pretty much preserved our reputation. Did you ever have to discipline one of your friends and did that ever put you in an awkward situation? Yes. So I remember. So there was a big thing.

We went to school in like a big city. And so a lot of our events would be off campus. Like if we were to have a mixer or a date party, we would take buses to a venues off campus. Yeah. And like the buses

were always just this big deal because people would always just have too much to drink and throw

up or pee or whatever. Like there's always like bodily fluids. Always crazy. And I never organized. I know. And we like and there was just I mean as present. And I was, I just said like I would drink at events. But I was always like pretty sober. Yeah. Like okay. Yes, you would drink. But you all still were never obliterated to the point that you couldn't oversee the entire event. Exactly. And I just was exposed to so many bodily fluids. It was just gross. Like how many girls would

throw up on themselves or throw up on other people. Oh my god. Okay. I have two really bad stories.

“Okay. One of them was I just remember the first story was one of my best friends.”

She had, she thought she had like stealthily peed on a bus. But they were multiple. Basically whatever there would be throw up or pee or whatever on a bus because people would get these venues were like 20, 30 minutes away. And everyone's drink alcohol and they're, you know, need to go to the bathroom and we're not pulling over. So people would get creative and try and like stealthily pee on the bus. Oh, like pee on their water bottles and stuff. Yeah, like pee on their water bottles or just like

flat out pee on the floor. And whenever that would happen, the sorority would be fine. Like $500 from the bus company. Yeah. Incident of peeing. And then we as the sorority, like a big job, my was like, go find that person was. And we would have like fresh menu would sit on the bus

up or peeing on the bus. And then like would report back to me. And one of them was my friend.

And there were multiple witnesses that said like, yes, she peed on the bus. So we had to call her into our standards. Yeah, I'm saying, why the hell are you peeing on the bus? And she's just so awkward because she's sitting right there and she's like, when my best friends and I have to put on my sorority hat and be like, so we know that this, this behavior is not, you would have to say specific for a bitch like this behavior is not in line with our chapter's values. And she's wore

up and down that she didn't do it because she didn't want to pay 500 bucks. And before we had call her into standard, she asked me. She was like, can you just like get rid of this? Like, I know

“we have money in the budget. Can we just, can we just, really, you're going to make me pay for this?”

And I was like, and that would like when my friends would do that, I'd be like, well, that's also like

a very crappy position to put you in because when there's multiple witnesses, how can you not like, hold her accountable for that? Right. And that's like where I would get in my friends would do that a fair amount. And that's where I would have to be like, okay, guys, we're all friends because we're all in this sorority. And there has to be a president of this sorority and I'm the president. And now you guys are putting me and I do all this stuff for our sorority that we're all still involved in,

like, for the sake of like continuing everything. And also you could, you know, your your friend for being on the bus out of respect for you, knowing that your president maybe she should have controlled her bladder. Yeah, exactly. And I'm like, no, because I can't do that. I can't do that

“for you. So that was my one hard line. It's like, I would never give hand out favors to friends or”

whatever. Yeah. Because you can't make a freshman pay 500 bucks third throwing up at their first

date party. And then a junior for peeing on the bus when they should know way better. Like, yeah. So that one was that was one bad time. And then there was another time. And it just really puts into perspective. Like, when you're a lot more sober at these events, you realize what it looks like from the outside. Because I feel like sometimes when you're drunk, you don't realize what you look like in certain situations. And this was one where I was on a party bus on a way back from an event.

In a girl was a literally like straddling her boyfriend right in front of me on the way back. And she was like straddling him and kind of making out them in the lights are on in this bus. And everyone is like, look at them like, oh my gosh, it's so embarrassing. And I'm like, do I have to go interject and say like, this is inappropriate? Yeah, like, please stop doing this. To make matters worse, she starts like, looking like she's going to throw up. And so I like hand her a bag. And she is

straddling her boyfriend throwing up into a peep bag on the side. And I just was like, maybe get off your boyfriend. I was like, what is going on? There is so this is all this awful. It's so bad. And then so we had to call her into standards. And she just like had no memory of this. And she was like, oh, I'm sorry. I know. That's sad. And she was like, I'm so sorry. I have no idea what I even did. And so I had to tell her. And on a sober Monday night. Yeah, like this is what happened. You were

straddling your boyfriend. And then she was like a freshman. And she was like, oh, that's mortifying. Yeah, probably so embarrassed. I know. And so you like, there's moments like that where you're like, this is like really egregious. But also, I feel awful. Like, reprimanding you for then. Yeah. But that's, you know, also hearing these stories. And, you know,

“even though she didn't remember, she probably made sure to never do that again.”

Yeah. So, yeah, I would just say like rule them if you think your president doesn't know something they do. They know everything. Because we're like, it's all like confidential. But we know everything from what your GPA is to to, if you're on social probate, like, if you can't pay your dues to, like, I don't know. And presidents across the wordies talk, presidents across fraternities talk, like a big reason why a lot of people are nominated presidents because like there's someone

who's in the know and has friends across other chapters too. Everything's very connected. Everyone knows everything. And don't think your president will not find out. Yeah. A little bit. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for coming on to dirty rush. And thank you for sharing your stories. You got it. Why hasn't a woman formally participated in a Formula One race weekend in over a decade?

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Okay, hey guys, and we have our second caller here, former president of a sorority.

Hi, how are you and welcome to dirty rush? Thank you! Excited to be here. So take me back. What made you want to become president of your sorority? I feel really lucky. It was kind of like a great opportunity for me,

And it's usually the junior year junior into your senior year. It was like spring of your junior year into your senior year that you for my sorority that your term was, and some of the other juniors were abroad, and I had been involved in other roles in this sorority, and I thought I would try for it, and I did it in and won, and was surprised that I kind of that I won, but then glad that I did it. Overall, I'm glad I did it. It was definitely hard at the time when I was in it.

There were a lot of things I didn't think about before I committed to doing it. Well, were some things that you didn't think about? Well, you know, because the problem,

“not the problem. You have to uphold all the roles and regulations of the house.”

And I felt really bad in a couple situations, because it was like some of my best friends kind of quote unquote breaking the rules. Like one of the roles was that at my sorority, we all lived in the house. All the girls had to live in the house. And of course, some of the girls have boyfriends, like you're in college, and one of my friends had a very serious study boy friend that she had been dating for a couple years, and she would sneak him upstairs to her room,

which is like a total no-no. And then, so she got called to standards for it, which is our Sunday meeting where girls would get in trouble. And it was just so hard when it's somebody like you love and trust. And I know she wasn't doing maliciously or, you know,

I mean, you have to be present for those meetings. But you have to be like, president first.

And like, there's a side of you that just wants to turn a blind eye, right? And just pretend none of it's happening. So, so there was definitely situations like that. Yeah, there was a caller before this, and she kind of dealt with the same things. But, you know, I'm sure you had this conversation with your friends as well, but they do have to understand that this is now your role in the sorority, so that they understand the rest that they're

taking, and hopefully they didn't affect your friendships, but they also, you know, had to respect what you were doing for sorority that you and all of your friends were in. And they should have, you know, they shouldn't have wanted to put you in that situation. Although, something like that, we know that that happens countless times in sorority houses where the girls are sneaking guys in and it's just

“what it is, and it happens. I think in almost every single sorority, if, you know, one wants to admit”

to it, it does. And that's a silly thing. And I'm sure, especially because she was in the study

relationship, she was like, okay, we'll never have fun again. Right, right. I think what I learned about

myself is I'm a person who doesn't like conflict, like I don't like conflict with my friends, I don't like, so I just like, you know, it's so hard when you're like all of a sudden you're in this role where you're like, you're my best friend, and I totally understand why you're doing it, and I don't think it's that wrong, but yet I have to hold up this role. Or like, you know, girls with like, pre-party in their rooms or like, smoke a cigarette off their balcony or whatever,

and you're just like, and I found with myself that, you know, like, it's hard like you almost want to just turn a blind eye versus deal, like, go face to face with the person or the, the conflict, because I just, I try to avoid the conflict at all. So I really did learn that about myself that I try and avoid conflict. At your peak, how much power did you actually have?

“You know, I would say that's what, like, is really interesting. It was really the VP of”

standards, what we call that kind of had, like, more power as far. It was not a super, like,

powerful position. I wasn't making decisions without multiple people and a lot of conversations.

So it was not, and it had a very active alumni board. So there were a lot of women who were, you know, had graduated in careers or much older, and they had a lot of like, thank goodness, like, a lot of knowledge. And I find, in retrospect, I think the thing that so many of us don't realize is, like, here you are, you're young, and you're, like, in charge of this house, and like, did I really, like, finances and safety, and like, you're so naive as a college student, like,

you're not thinking about, like, long-term consequences, like, you know, like, what if something happened, and there wasn't consent with that boy in the room, or like, there's so many things that could have happened, and the liability that the house takes by having all these girls that are living there? 100%. What's something people think the sorority president does, first of all,

like, has so much power, and I think that that was definitely not true. I think there was a lot more,

like, silly kind of meetings, like, so many meetings that people don't tell you about, um, the kind of, you know, the philanthropy were all, I mean, not the philanthropy, but the philanthropy side, but then then all the sorority and fraternity presidents would be on the campus, so there was that, and then there was a lot of nine meetings, and then it ended up being a lot more time, and a lot more coordination of lots of different areas than I thought, and then lots of little,

like, wonderful surprises, like, you know, like the initiation where the public speaking,

“where you're initiating the girls, like, I did become a better public speaker, I think, because of it,”

but the initiation was like ended up being so special to be a part of that, and

do that for girls and share that with so many women, so that was, like, a secret surprise, too. Do you feel like the role of being a president of a sorority has changed over time, and maybe become more serious, or maybe a little more of a handful? You know, I think everything, I think the hardest thing for this whole generation right now is, I believe you don't grow unless you make mistakes, and we're all going to make mistakes,

and I think the hardest thing right now for this whole generation of college kids and high school kids is that everything is on video and photographed, and you're not almost not allowed to make

mistakes because it will be captured, so, so I think that is probably, like, the hardest thing

that I did not have, like, things definitely happened, but it could be more of a he said she said, and now it's like, oh, you did sneak your boyfriend in here and look, here it is on the video camera, type thing, or you were drinking, or you were smoking, or whatever it may be, like, everything is captured now, and I think that's really hard for kids, because you are going to make mistakes,

“and that's the only way to learn, I think. 100%. And it is true because now the houses have”

cameras, and I'm sure that wasn't, you know, I'm sure they didn't have cameras when you were president, and it's just things do really change where you are, all of your moments are captured, and there really is no going around it, but you're right because you do have to make those mistakes to then learn, become a better person, not do it again, and that's why I feel like, sometimes people, it's so hard to sometimes almost learn from, I don't know if this is necessarily true,

but it's hard because, like, when you're caught, red handed, and there's proof, and you can't get around it, it's a lot more intimidating than just, you know, being confronted on it, like, addressing the issue and learning from it. So I guess it goes both ways, you know, you want to have the proof, but then it's also super intimidating, especially while you're being addressed by a group of girls and your sorority, and it obviously is an embarrassing feeling.

Very embarrassing, very shameful, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I also don't like the reputation for me, like, we all want to be, like, I wanted to be, like, fun, you know, fun's there or not, like, the one who's, like, uptight and, yeah, exactly, do you feel like you are feared, loved, or mix of both? As I think it was a mix of both, and I think I was trying really hard to still be, like, the fun person I was, and the laughter and all of that, and I think that's where I really

struggled as how do you uphold these standards and these roles, and still have, like, you know, still have the people feel like they can come to you and tell you their problems or their issues, because we're all going to have them, like, there's no way around it. So yeah, I think I really,

“struggle trying to toggle those two, and that's what I really didn't like about being president”

is that, like, I don't, you know, like, mean every teenager will say, like, rules may be meant to be broken, and I don't think they're meant to be broken, but like, they will be broken, and I didn't want to be blunt, like, the discipline. I didn't like that role. And that's inevitable, especially in a sorority house, where you're dealing with, you know, everybody in your chapter, it's hard to contain everybody. Yes, yes, definitely, definitely. Did you ever have to cover something

up for the sake of the chapter? I did not think goodness, because that would have been a really tricky scenario. Big fun. What's the messiest situation you had to deal with as president?

be quote unquote, like, you know, hazed. Not hazes a wrong word, like, you know, and kind of, like, you're new. We need to show you what it means to be in this house and need to just show respect to the elders. And so that was kind of tricky, because I was older in friends with the olders yet. These are like these, you know, sweet young girls who looked up to me and trusted me. And so again, it was toggling that situation. Again, where you're just like, I hate being caught

in the middle of this. I hated the standards meetings where we had to call people in and tell them what they did wrong. Like, it's just like, I think I felt the shame that they were feeling. So yeah, there were a lot of situations where it was very tricky and very messy. And then we did have a situation like, you know, even just in the house, like, where somebody took a bag of poo and, like, threw it at our front door. And so then we had to get the campus involved,

and it just, um, and the, like, house mom and, like, it just became more and more. I loved more than, like, little situations where it was, like, girls had broken into the kitchen to get food at night when those are the things I preferred versus these, like, bigger issues. Yeah, definitely. Did you ever personally do something you probably shouldn't have as president? Um, absolutely. Yes,

“I definitely did. And that's why I think when it was like senior spring, I'm like, I'm so glad”

to not have this. But I felt like even after I was done being president, like the alumni council

who kind of, like, oversees the house we're always looking at, like, you're on this, like, platform.

And it's expected you're going to never break the rules and never, um, not do the, you know, certain things. So, um, but it was definitely a relief to, like, not be president anymore and hand it off to somebody else. And it's interesting though, like, I think it's all personality because the girl who was the VP of standards and really in charge of it, she loved it. Like, she loved, it was she really enjoyed the standards. She really enjoyed getting to the bottom of why this

girl snuck the boy in or why this girl did that or like, she and so I kind of, maybe she was going to be a lawyer. Yeah, exactly. She didn't mind the conflict. Yeah, at all. Well, thank you so much for

coming on to Dirty Rush and sharing your experience as president. I hope you have an amazing

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watching her president guide her sorority. Hey, how are you? Good. Hi. So you are currently in college right now. Yes. Okay. Yeah. I'm kind of, you can consider me a spokesperson. I guess for my my past president. She, you know, she had an interesting time as president, and I think a lot of it feels a little bit too close to home to want to talk about. I think there's definitely a side to being president that once you finish your term, you kind of leave things in the past.

And when I asked her, she wanted to come and chat about it. It was a hard note. So yeah, I'm taking some of her stories, and she's given me the liberty to share it with everyone, but it's, yeah, it was an interesting time for her. Okay. Well, I mean, share whatever she was comfortable with.

Yeah. So I guess the first story I would share unfortunately in my sorority. There is a bit

of a, for lack of a better term drug scene. I feel like that is unfortunately quite common in a lot of sororities, but I think I don't know if it has something to do with the stress of being in that top executive position that makes it feel more accessible or more interesting or maybe it's the the crossover with hanging out with fraught guys and other fraught presidents, but at least in my friend's experience when she was president, there was one instance in which as many people now,

I'm not sure, I assume this is common knowledge, but the chapter room in a sorority is extremely sacred and it's not a space that you allow girls, especially not guys to come into if they're not in the sorority. It's kind of especially like left for just the girls in the house. And there was one particular instance in which my friend, the president decided to kind of abandon that role and after a game day when a lot of her friends had been drinking, this was kind of a combination

of a game day, but also at my school there's the secret society for presidents and it involves a lot of drinking. So I guess she had made the poor judgment of allowing the chapter door rooms to open

led to another obviously involves a lot of alcohol, but it also involved doing lines of cocaine

off of the yearbooks of our sorority. So and obviously it's a game day, it's very tactic people are clearly going in and out of the house, watching her do this. So just like a horrible

“representation obviously. Unfortunately, yes, and also I think this particular president was”

absolutely like perfect at creating a really wonderful image. She was the embodiment of what you would look up to as a role model of a president and in so then many ways still has that same demeanor, but I think after this particular event, things definitely changed and shifted in the house. So I think it kind of created this uncertainty of like what does it look like to be in leadership in a sorority and why is our president kind of abandoning all the social norms and rules of like

being in a sorority and opening it up to just the absolute chaos of not only making it work, because then she had a continue to be president after that. Chapter on Monday that that was my next week later. So that was a crazy one. Another one that I find particularly hilarious just because one of my best friends was also a part of it. So it's just like something I hear and

think about all the time. But basically there was another instance unfortunately had to do with drugs

where the president and a couple of friends decided that living in a sorority house,

“I think it was a weekday, it was the perfect time to try and trip on shrumes. So it was this whole”

elaborate plan involved going to this psychedelic church, picking up shrumes, doing the whole thing, coming back to the sorority house and in order to kind of make sure that the coast was clear and that this was a safe space to do it. They put a sign on the door that said, in an interview, please do not knock. And was it the chapter in again? It was it was actually the presidential suite. So it was her bedroom, but it had a printed sign that said in an interview from like

I think it was like 12 to two, do not knock. Except girls did not realize that they completely miscalculated the dose of what they took and what they were assuming would be like a two to three-hour experience ended up being 12 hours. Wait, and they did this in the middle of the afternoon.

“They was literally daylight. I'm I think it was like two yeah. Why not at night?”

So that's I think what they had in from what I've heard from them when they talked about it is that they were thinking they would do it like let the experience unfold and then go on like a nature hike.

Okay, I've yeah, I mean I have never done that before, but I've heard like you want to be outside and

look at the sky and yeah, I've got to appear apparently things look cool. Yeah, and it was a beautiful day. I think they were like, oh perfect. Like we're going to hike. We'll be in the sunshine. We'll go like lay on the grass. Going on a hike on rooms like actually sounds like a hard to knock. I can't I can't I can't really imagine like what their thought process was and why they've decided to do that, but it didn't end up being a three-hour experience ended up being 12 hours. That sign never left

the door. No one ever knocked and it actually involved them laying on the floor. I'm pretty sure one of them peed the bed. They like drew self-portrait. I mean, it was just this whole thing. But it kind of ended up just being this funny thing because in my in my sorority we have something where like the seniors and the sophomores trying to have like bonding nights where they kind of merged the classes and merged the PCs. And this was one of those instances

and when they told the story as like two truths in a lie and no one none of the sophomores guessed that it was real because the way that the whole elaborate side of like it was 12 hours, it was during the day. I'm pretty sure it was like a Thursday. Like it was. I got absolutely not real. No. There's no way. That's so funny. Okay, that's hilarious. I mean, as much as you're president as you described, seem to totally want to keep it together and have this like

pristine reputation. Obviously things might have been skewed a little bit, but overall I think that's the hard thing about presidency and being in a sorority that you really do have to maintain this image and follow the rules and try to be so perfect all the time. And sometimes when you're trying too hard to represent that image and really set this example, it does cause you to

around the same age as you, they're going through the same experiences, you, they're still going

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