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We're pretty close though. Listen to the Nick Dick & Paul show on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to dirty rush. The truth about Sir Arty Life. With your host, me, J.Judies, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler. Hi guys, welcome back to another episode of dirty rush. Today we are joined by the women who truly see it all. The backbone of every sorority house. They run the show. Keep the chaos somewhat under
control and somehow know everything before anyone else does. We are talking about sorority house moms or they are officially known house directors. Trust me, nothing gets past them. All right,
let me get into it. Well first, my, so we're going back now guys to 1988. So I did have a house
mom at University of Texas at the A5 house. And the only name I know that she has is Aunt Milley.
“So that's what we called her. And I feel like her name almost completely describes her. She was”
like an aunt, like an older aunt. And from what I remember I'm sorry at Milley, she was a little stuffy, a little strict. And she, she was there in a motherly capacity. I don't think she was a house mom that let's say we ran to with our boy problems per se. She was just really trying to control the chaos that is a sorority house. But our guests are fabulous. There you're going to give you the dirt and talk a little bit about how they got into this line of business. So okay,
let's go ahead and bring in our first house director and her name is CC Calvo. Welcome. Hi, how are you? How are you? I'm good. Are you sure you are a director of a house because you look like you're, you should be in a house. I don't know what you're talking about. I get that's so often. I started out when I was 27. So just imagine how much younger I look now. Then wait, you're older than 27. I'm 39. Look at you. Well done. You look 22. Good. Yeah, I was saying
before we brought you in that my house mother, which is what we called her back in 1988, her name was Aunt Milley, and she did not look like CC. And I just tried to picture how, first of all, how did this happen? How did you get this job? Tell me a little bit. So I started out. I am a sorority woman. I was a chapter advisor for my chapter back home in Miami. And we were at a training that happened to coincide with a training for house corporations and house directors. And
at some point in conversation, we were all done with the weekend and at the airport. I had been saying how much I loved interacting with the women as an advisor. And I wish that there was kind of a
Different way to interact with them and just be more involved.
was like, you know, you'd make such a great house mom. And I was, I looked around. I was like,
me, I'm like, I mean, you mean, isn't that like typically someone older at like Aunt Milley? Yeah. And I wanted to choose my words very carefully because she was an older woman. And she was like,
“we know traditionally that's what we've always had is the older house directors. But one thing we”
talked about this weekend was how a younger house director has a lot of benefits. You understand the generation a little bit more. And I had to take a pause and be like, yeah, that's technically true. There are sometimes I question the things. Right. But the other thing is like liabilities, you know, you are so good at, um, you know, if you break your leg in the house, like, you're going to keep working. And I was like, it's sad that you know that. And she was like, but an older person like
they, and I was like, oh, they might break their hip or something and be out. She's like, well,
that a lot worse. And I was like, oh, that took a darker turn than I was. But yeah, yeah, wound. And so I started looking into it. And it just kind of happened. Wow. So just so I'm clear. So are you a house mom for the same sorority that you were a member of? No, but I have been. Okay. So you moved around a little bit. Yeah. I moved around a little bit. I've worked in California for two years. Um, I did two years in New Jersey, actually at Rutgers in New
Runswick at Zeta where Gia was a member. Right. So I was, I was the house director the year before she just missed her. Right. I just missed her. But I did something to remember. I got to me to read someone she did her book tour. I was going around. Um, and I worked for another organization in Orlando, Florida. And now I'm in North Carolina. Wow. Okay. So this is not just a job for you. You're not just segue into something else. This is your career. No. This is my career currently.
“I guess it puts a new spin on it on being a house director. I, because of Aunt Milley, I think”
that it's a woman who's maybe retired and, um, you know, really sort of very into sorority or Greek life or was in their heyday. But this is a different thing. And what would mean our age becoming interested in doing this? We are seeing a really big uptick in younger house directors. The campus that I'm currently at actually has a majority of house directors that are in their
early 30s. And I have been, my experience has always been the older house directors on campuses.
I've been the youngest at the last three campuses by at least 25, 30 years. Right. So I've been really refreshing to see kind of younger house directors joining and really being a part of it and using it as a stepping stone either to get into some sort of housing, um, position within their national organizations or national organization or just to really get the experience and kind of like figure out if this is something that they want to continue doing. Wow. So do you think it is something
you want to continue doing? I definitely do. I've loved it so far. I've been a house director for about 11 years this fall. Um, I did take a year off when I had a family member pass away. That was a little hard for me to kind of want to dedicate another year. But I came back into it. And I was in my last house for the last five years. And then decided to change and moved up and I'm closer to family now. So it's really nice. And it definitely has its ups and downs. But it's
such a great job, especially if you love connecting with college age members. Well tell me like what does your job look like on a daily? Like what's a typical day? So a typical day can be really a lot of different things. You're either super busy to the point where like there have been days where I am non-stop from like seven in the morning to like nine o'clock at night or even past that when the members have socials. And I'll forget to eat. Like there have been days where I've
forgotten to grab lunch. And I have to like stop myself and be like wait. Did I only, am I only surviving off of coffee? Is that what's happening right now? Right. Right. Um, but it can be anything from, you know, morning meetings with having vendors coming out plumbers, um, HFAC work, checking in with the staff. I like to do that a couple times a day just to make sure that, you know, housekeeping is, is up to date, um, at the kitchen. I would like to check in, make sure they have
everything they need. If there's anything, um, that they need to go get for them or the members need anything, I can go out and run errands. And then there's some days where you're just sitting here waiting for something to happen. Yeah. Yeah. How much would you say, what's the percentage of the logistic part of your job? Like, you know, making sure that HV is working as opposed to like being there for the girls. I mean, I would think that there's a lot of that involved as well. Right. And, and also,
“I'm picturing that you have to, you're sort of the disciplinary end. Kind of. Kind of. Okay.”
Yeah. So a lot of being a house director is yes, um, is really the property management aspect of it.
You were taking care of the physical house, making sure it's running correctly.
of it is also the members, um, not every organization, um, has their house directors as involved.
But I have always, um, wanted to make sure that my number one job is the health safety and
well-being of the members. That is the end all be all for me. I need to make sure that they're happy and healthy, um, because they cause me a lot less problems later. Right. Um, and I love to interact with them and help them out with events if they need it or help them with, you know, I've done anything from like tutoring, members, and Spanish, uh, to just going and supporting them when they invite me to things. I think that's probably my favorite part is when they go out of the way
to invite you to make sure that they want you there to support them. Yeah. I mean, because you are such a great age, I would think for in terms of like having a friendship with these girls. Is it a hard line ever? Because, you know, they probably want to hang out with you and get wasted and, you know,
“oh, yeah, so do you have to sort of, you know, maintain an era of professionalism or can you kind of”
have some fun with them? And I've always, um, from my chapter advisor days, I've again I'm a very
much younger person, um, and I've always been close and age with the members that I'm dealing with. So I've always been friendly, but not friends. Right. And let them know and I always say that in the beginning when I meet with them. It's like, I can be your best friend, your worst enemy, the choice is yours. Um, at the end of the day, you know, I'm not here. It's to be best friends with you guys and, you know, like, bring each other's hair and stuff, but I do always want the members to feel comfortable coming
to talk to me. Um, and I tell them that, you know, if you guys want to come talk to me, if it's something sort of related or school related or personal, like, if you just need somebody to listen to you,
my door is always open. My door is always open. You are welcome to come and talk to me and I can
literally just listen and if you need me to give you advice or suggestions, we can work together on that. If it's just you just need somebody to listen to you, I'm just here to hear. So it sounds like we say house director now, not house mom, which certainly makes sense in in this occasion. But my question is, do you feel like a mom sometimes? I mean, I would imagine that you are rallying all of these, let's, I mean, let's call them kids for our purposes. What are they? Sometimes they are what?
19. Yeah, they're between the ages of like 18 and 21, 22 sometimes. Yeah. The title really changes and it's really dependent on the person, um, a lot of house directors when I first started referred to it as like, oh, house mom or they were like, mom be your mom D, you know, um, and I was 27, 28 years old. Right. I was like, I am no one's mom. Yeah. Right. And so when we settled on my first house, we settled on my nickname was HD because house director is the formal title and I wasn't,
I didn't want to be a mom anything. And so I settled on HD. I've gone by my full name Cecilia, at my previous house, I was CC here. I'm Miss CC, so we just add a little formality to it.
“Yeah. You're in the south. Yeah. So it's been, it's definitely has its moments where you have to kind of”
remember like, you're an adult or as my girls one time call that you're the adult adult in the house. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Good. I like that. If you ever had a moment when you have to like step in and you didn't feel maybe because you are a certain age capable of handing of handling, you know, these young women's issues, I would think that it would be, I mean, it's overwhelming for me at age 57 sometimes. And my kids are a little older than college age now. But do you feel equipped to handle,
you know, everything that gets thrown at you? I would think it would be challenging at times. I definitely feel like there have been times where I should, or I don't think I was capable of handling something. And I will try very hard to acknowledge that where I'm like, this is above my pay grade. There's some things that I'm equipped to deal with as the house director. There's some things I'm not. And I will outsource it to the, you know, the housing corporation or the chapter advisor
and just, you know, send it off through and just be like, hey, this came to me. I don't know what to do. What would you like me to do and what would be situations like? And I've had a myriad of things from mental health issues to sexual assault, confessions. And you just kind of have to deal with it. I try and do training as much as I can and we do have a house director's conference that I like to attend. I try and attend every summer, just because it helps me reset and I get to share with
other house directors, either my age or older and learn from their experiences and kind of have that back and forth. And it really does give me like a mental and physical reset button before I
“start my next semester. Yeah, I'm wondering though, like, what is your life like living in the house?”
Are you able to have your own social life? I don't know, like, you know, you're going out on dates
To or unless I don't know if you're married or no, no.
You have, you know, your own, can you have a pet in the house? Is for the listeners that may be
“interested in doing something like this? I do. I actually have my, this is Louis B. He is my animal”
companion and has been for the last 15 years. Oh, this is the second house that I've been allowed to
have him at. When I'm not, when I haven't been in a house where he's allowed, I usually have him with my parents. My mom takes care of him during the year. And for the most part, for 10 months out of the year, I am this is my life. I will still have time to work and go out and socialize and hang out with friends. I try and keep that to like evenings and sparingly and on weekends, especially because most of the time the members are off having fun going to the beach or hanging out with their friends
are going home. So I mean, I'll try and make time for myself to go and just destress because it can be really difficult. Like you said, we live here in the house and another house director and I
were just talking about this the other day. You know, when we get upset or when we have a bad day,
“our staff is lucky. They get to go home and, you know, throw things and just like decompress. We,”
this is our home. Like our apartments, our sweets are usually in the house. We can't exactly throw a temper tantrum and slam the door because our problems are on the other side of that door. We have to find ways of like, you know, resetting and just best keeping the house for a little bit. Even if it's just going for a walk around the campus or, in my case, I have, again, like I said, I have family nearby. So on the weekends, I'll go hang out with my cousins or we'll have family
dinner once the month. So I'll make sure to just keep, leave my schedule open for that so that I know, I can have some time just be normal and kind of get away from the house and have that break. Yeah. Do you see this as, I'm not talking about you personally necessarily, but like as a long-term career for a woman who, because it's so, it's such a specific thing, right? You're living in a minority house with a bunch of young women. You don't have your own space except for your room.
I would think or your space. And I don't know what it would be like to even have a relationship in a situation like this. I don't think that any house directors can have a significant other, can they? Is that allowed? They can. Oh, they can. In fact, yeah, when I was a new member, 20, something years ago, of my sorority, I actually, there was a chapter that I was very familiar with
that had a house mom and house dad. Really? She was married. Her husband basically was the maintenance
worker and like the handyman basically for the house. And in the current organization, I work at they actually allow you to have a spouse. Oh, wow. They allowed to be on the meal plan like you are, but they are allowed to like live in with you and they are subject to the same rules. You are they allowed to basically stay in the suite and they just go in and out, but not like free range of the house.
“Wow. What do you think is the most rewarding part of being a house director?”
I love, um, I love at the end of your time with them when they're ready to graduate when they thank you and you realize you don't, you know, a lot of the time, we don't realize how much of an impact, the little time that we have with them makes. Right. But the when they do graduate or when they do tell you like you, you saying this did so much for me. Right. Like you don't know how much this meant to me. Yeah. I have had a number of experiences that way. When I left my most recent house,
I got so many letters that I'm from the women of the chapter and I cried so hard. Oh, well, they're all very lucky young women. Thank you so much for coming on, CC. 2%. That is the number of people who take the stairs when there is also an escalator available. I'm Michael Eister, an on my podcast, 2%. I break down the science of mental toughness, fitness, and building resilience in our strange modern world. I'll be speaking with writers,
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to get you caught up and on with your day. And listen to Amy and TJ on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. All right, you guys. So next, we have Crystal High. Hi. We're excited to have you and apparently you have been a house director for six years at an ACC school. Correct. I have, right? Yes. I've also worked at big tin as well. Wow. Well, like our guest right before you, you look way too young to
have been doing this for that long. Well, thank you. Tell us, please, a little bit about how you got into this. How did you become a house director? Yeah, absolutely. So my trajectory is a little
“unique because I think I was getting my masters at a university in the north. So big tin at the time.”
And part of the work that you do for a master's program is you have something that's called an assistantship. And so that was a resident director role for a sorority organization. I was there. So that was the big tin. I worked for a university owned house for about two years there. And then transitioned to what is like formally known as like a house director role to another organization right at that exact same campus and worked there for another two years. And then I made my way back
to the south, which is home for me to ACC school and have been in this role for about four years now. Cool. What do you think is the hardest part? And what do you think is the most fun part doing this? Hardest part is I think you having to strike while say two things, probably striking a balance of like my own personal life and the professional space and reputation that I want to have. And so by that I mean you live in with the women. That's not every health
directors experience. Some have like houses that are adjacent. Some are just like more stuff in property management type roles. But for those of us who are in the fire together, living in with the women, you're living with you know, 40 to a hundred, you know, depending on how large the house can hold collegiate women. And you know, they have their moments. And so I think just trying to again
“know that you have to kind of be on the moment that you step out of your suite, which is, you know,”
pretty visible. Girls can access you 24/7. And so I think it's just again making sure that I have hobbies. I have interest that if it's something educationally I want to pursue that I'm doing those things for myself. If it's connecting with family that I'm still doing those things. I think
Sometimes my family can get like weirded out trying to come and visit me beca...
hundred people that they every single time. Right. To the house. Right. But when they sit down and
have dinner with me and it's like, oh, you have a private chef. I'm like, yes, I do have a lot of great perks for this. Not bad. Okay. It's not. It's not. I don't have a grocery build. That feels good. Not yet. Not bad. Hopefully you don't rent. So I know that's a plus. Yes. So what about, um,
“are you in a relationship? Can I ask? I am. You are. Okay. So how do you balance that?”
For somebody like myself who's had a long-term partner, the women get used to their presence at the house, right? Yeah. And so they're not necessarily a stranger. But I could imagine somebody navigating dating and that being, uh, this is my space, but it's a shared space. And so I think you got to get
clear on the policies. You got to get clear with the house corporation, what the do's and don't
start. A lot of, I will say, for my work, university owned housing, have live-in partner policies. You sign in a din-dom where you have your partner have a background check. So they go through all the kind of jump polls and and bells and whistles if you will to make sure operationally and liability wise. Everybody's covered in everybody's good to go. But it's a benefit to have a sweep that is just dedicated to me and my space. And I get to decorate it how I want and all the things. And I've been
fortunate. My house corporation has furnished it. So, you know, my partner will come here. We tend not to be in other spaces outside the dining room when they're like events that the girls have put
on philanthropy for example. But, you know, this is what I will always say about house directors,
I'm like live your life, like, have your relationships. Again, do the things that bring you joy
“because your life is so much of the work and you can't really escape it, right? Because you will”
live it. Yeah. I wonder, like, does that make it in terms of of moving forward, moving through the years? Is this something that you think you can do long-term? Is it that kind of a career or is it something that you are always thinking of next steps? I think for me, it has been a bit of both. So, I think coming from getting my masters again doing student affairs work, like, I can absolutely make this a career. I can stay within a house director role. I can jump to different universities
throughout. So, I can, again, just a mass I think could have greater chapter sizes if you would. Right. So, go into Bama, right? That kind of thing. I think it's progression because you're dealing with a larger house, you're dealing with different staff. But I also think you can kind of segue into national officer roles for different organizations, right? There are a lot of, like, property manager roles that will go to each house and kind of help to guide and take care of the health
“directors there. So, that can be a segue to, I think for me, I'm probably going to do something”
different if that's continuing to work up my way in terms of higher education and student affairs work. I don't think this will be the end all be all but I'm so grateful to have the experience because I don't pay rent. I close proximity to the downtown area where I live at. I love this chapter to death and they've been honestly the three that I've worked for, they're really great. What makes them, what makes them better or the best store? Honestly, I think the girl, I was navigating the
pandemic with a couple of the groups and that everybody was just losing out there. Yeah, it is brutal. It's not the kind of sisterhood that they wanted to curate for themselves, right? And then others were just wild and I'm like, y'all are giving me a headache. I don't want to deal with all of your foolishs. Yeah, all I want. So, this group has been really awesome. And I'm close to family, which is so grounding for me, right? That's so nice. So, without asking you this personally,
so let's just say big picture, it'd be good money in being a house director. Yeah, definitely. I think if you can find us at the ideal situation is maybe you have a part-time house director role and you have an on campus or other job, right? I have known and worked with house directors who are also nurses, house directors who are also police officers, house directors who had other web is jobs, right? And so I think you can really make it work for you. Those are probably lower end of the pay scale,
but I will say you can have full-time pay and salary, you can have great benefits depending on how the university has structured the relationship or if the national organization has those things in place. So, yeah, I do think it can be really good money. It's not the most well paid job, but you got to think about, I think the additional benefits. Sure. Yeah, yeah, all of the things, the food. I'm going to save money for a house for your own house, right? And I will also say
Every time the women leave, I'm like, I have a mansion, so that feels great t...
Bye, enjoy your spring break. That part get out of here. Don't let the divide down of the door here.
“Well, listen, thank you so much for coming on. We really have enjoyed talking to you. I wish”
that I had had a house director like you as opposed to sort of crotchity, older woman that I had, but anyway, enjoy doing what you're doing. And thank you so much for coming on Dirty Rush. 2%. That is the number of people who take the stairs when there is also an escalator available. I'm Michael Easter, and on my podcast 2%, I break down the signs of mental toughness, fitness, and building resilience in our strange modern world. I'll be speaking with writers, researchers,
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All right, you guys. So now our next guest is Miss Ashley. Hi, Ashley. Hey, how are you? Well, how are you doing? Doing pretty good. I say Miss Ashley, I'm assuming you're not a Mrs because you look very young to me. Also to be a house director, but can I ask you
“hold you are? Sure, yes. I'm 24 years old. Wow, are you sure you've been out of college?”
Barely, I got, went into my master's program right out of undergrad. So yeah, I'm only two years post grad. So your master's, you're getting your master's in. Yes, I'm getting my master's in public health. Okay, so you are, you're doing this, your, a house director, and you're getting your master's at the same time. Yes, correct. Be as a girl. Yes, he's a young lady. Yes, young woman. Wow, I mean, I just,
I'm looking at you and I just can't help but think that you must have some st...
Yes. Yes. Yeah, I was in, so we're already for four years and now have been the house director
for just one year, but I'm the house director at the same school that I was get out. Wait, okay, so what was your house director like when you were in the house? She was nice. She was a, a little older than me. She was around 60. So older. Yeah. We didn't have like a close relationship by any means, but you know, she was there and around and she was a little silly, a little silly. Yeah. How do you think you're doing it differently? What is, I mean, it's obvious to me that these,
you know, these young women are going to look at you differently than they did a 60 year-old woman, but do you think you're, are you closer to them than maybe your house director was to you? Do you think it's easier to be your age? More difficult. Yeah, I think that there's definitely
pros and cons. I think I am a little bit closer with them. I was a senior when they were freshman,
the members that live in the house currently. So we already kind of had this established relationship before I came into the house director role. And yeah, I definitely think it makes this closer. They're a lot more comfortable with me and, you know, can come to me if they need things and, you know, I, friends is like maybe, you know, not the right word because there has to be some boundaries, but we're definitely very comfortable with each other. But then, you know, sometimes
“they can't be hard when you have to draw a boundary of being in a place of authority. It's a”
little bit different. Did they want you to party with them? Did they try to get you to? They ask me sometimes. I can't ever tell if they're being serious or not, but that is actually one thing I don't do. I don't, I don't party with them at all, but they do invite me out sometimes. I bet they do. I bet they do. So, okay. So tell me a little bit in terms of what you're doing every day because is it a lot of just sort of being there for the girls talking them through stuff
or being a disciplinarian or is it more? We talked to a couple of other house directors. They are running the house. So they are in charge of the maintenance of the house and the employees. And so you're doing all of that as well? Yeah. So our chapter is around, I think, like 275 members. We have a house obviously on campus, which is different than some schools. Yeah. I kind of do it all. We do have a facility's
director who's in the chapter. So they kind of do most of the facilitation with the members. But yes, I handle all of the maintenance that goes on right now. We're getting our house renovated. So I'm kind of handling a lot of the deliveries and meeting with people who have to come,
“look at the house. I think we had maybe 10 people come to the house to look at our floors.”
So meeting with them every day when they would come, I'd not in charge of the other employees. So our kitchen staff or the house cleaner. Those are managed separately. But I do have a good relationship with them too. I talk to them every day. I normally, if they need something normally, I do make the calls. If it has to do with maintenance specifically. And sometimes I'm liais on to to like the upper house corporation. Wow, this is serious job.
This is not a joke. It is a lot of work. And I think some people don't understand that. Yeah, going into that. No, it sounds like a lot of work. Today, I'm learning that it's a lot of work. Tell me about, I don't know, something crazy that's happened, something funny that's happened. Tell it like your our listeners want to know, you know, they're definitely going to be listening and thinking,
“here is this young, adorable person. And she's the house director. Has anything crazy happened?”
Um, I don't know about crazy. The members really are so sweet in their so respectful, which is really nice. I mean, of course, there's things that go on. I'm sure maybe a little bit under my nose. Yeah. But I feel like the crazy thing, especially at our school, the houses are a little bit older. So it will just be any random day, any random week in something break, something stops working. Right. Right. It goes out. The AC goes out. The dishwasher breaks.
And you're just like, what am I supposed to? Yeah. I'm like 24. I don't know who to call. You want me? Right. Yeah, literally. I'll call your mom. I do some things. Right. This is actually my job. I need to. You know, everyone go home. Do you have other house moms? You can call as already community of house moms. Really? Definitely. So that's nice. Our school has not too many sororities. So the community is pretty small. And they're really
nice. Everyone, most of the other house directors have been here for a little bit longer. So they are really open about sharing contacts of people that they use, like recycling people
or pest people. Everyone's open about sharing who they use. So I can always kind of reach out
To them, which is really nice.
there to help me to. Yeah. Right. Anything. So. Right. Right. Do you see yourself doing this for
“a long time? Honestly, no, because I was kind of using this while I was in grad school to”
just to help me make a little bit more money. Yeah. I was able to place to live. But if I was in like a transitional period, I totally would keep doing it. And I totally understand why some like older women who maybe are single and whose kids have, you know, grown up.
Right. Because it really does give you a really amazing sense of community. You're never lonely.
I mean, you're around. Yeah. But I'm, and it is, it is a really lucky job to have, I think. Yeah. I mean, it gets you a lot of things, which is what about your personal life? Is it hard to, I don't know. I don't know. Are you single? No, I do have a boyfriend. Okay. So how is it managing that? Is he allowed to come see you at the house? Yeah. So we are long distance. So it doesn't make it too hard just because he's like, we're not in the same place all of the time.
And then the way our house is set up is I kind of have a separate apartment and that has a separate entrance. Oh, that's true. Yeah. So he's allowed over, but hey, I asked to use like that separate
entrance. And then he's not really allowed to be in like the main house without me. Because our house
is a public space for members. So they are allowed to have guests over in the daytime. So it's kind of a similar idea. Yeah. He's allowed here when he's with me in the day, during meals. But yeah, definitely not allowed like by himself and like to want or anything. Yeah. Has, have you ever had managed something crazy dangerous that's happened? Has there ever been anything where you're like,
“okay, I am 24 years old. I can't. I mean, do that. Have you had anything specific you could think of?”
A couple things not really have to do with me, but I know there was a member who kind of had a strange run in with an older man and just we kind of had to like be on the lookout and just like know that if you know anyone approached the house like trying to like draw a boundary of just like, don't let anybody in the house that you don't know if someone's knocking, asking for someone like
kind of I need to be that first line of defense almost like I will come and approach them. And it
does seem a little interesting because you know I'm telling these 21 year olds to tell me a 21 year know like let me know so I can kind of deal with it. But I mean that's just kind of the job that you have to do like you are still supposed to kind of be in this you know protective space of course. And I was in an executive position when I was in this rowdy and undergrad. So I think I kind of already have that mentality of like I've had to kind of what's the word. I've had to be like the
face of the chapter before and kind of like be the first line of contact right of course. Yeah, I'm kind of used to it and I don't mind telling Amanda you know go away. Would you recommend this? Do you think this is something that you would tell your friends that are maybe just graduating that this is you know a great segue maybe into something else or you would. 100% I have said so many times like I feel so grateful for the opportunity because
it kind of just worked out timing wise like our old house director was changing into a different career and my old advisors just reached out and was like hey they didn't even ask me specifically they were just like do you know anyone interested right and I was thinking about it and I was like you know this could be a really awesome opportunity especially in grad school where you know money
“money can be taken totally. So I 100% recommend it. I think maybe you need to know your kind of”
personality and what the chapter is like going into it and I think it made it easier just being familiar with the chapter obviously but I want to 100% recommend it especially young people if the chapter is open to having a younger house director I think that it makes your relationship really good and they just trust you a lot more and yeah of course yeah that makes sense thank you so much you guys for joining us for this episode of Dirty Rush make sure you follow us on Instagram and
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