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Hi guys. Welcome to a new episode of legally brew net. I will be your host today Emily Simpson with my co pilot. Shane. So today we thought.
Here was the thing. I always try to look for what's going on in the media. Like what is the buzz? What are people talking about?
Because that's always the first thing that I want to go to for legally brew net.
Is like what is the most current topic. And I feel like there were just some big kind of breaking news type of topics. But probably not enough to do a full episode. So today we're just going to talk about like three really current things that are going on in the news in the true crime world. So.
All right. So first we're going to talk about lake and snowing. Have you heard of this girl? Do you know who this is? Yeah.
I've seen it in the headlines. Yeah. In the headlines. It reminds me.
“Well, if you have to put cheerleader on there because that's always a lie.”
Oh no. No. It's that murder suicide in Vegas. No. No.
I don't know a little bit to tell me. Okay. Lake and snowing is the college girl who cheered at UK who killed her new board. Well, was just recently. Wasn't that recently found out that asphyxiation?
Yes. So we're going to go into that. So let's talk about that. Also again. We talked about this before when we did an episode on the girl that was killed by her step brother.
Yeah. Remember all the cruise ship? Yeah. I remember she was a cheerleader and I talked about how whenever a girl is a cheerleader,
they always put that into the headline.
Oh. Oh. Like that's always a thing. Clearly. Because that's some, well, if it was football, they would put football.
If it was football, they would put football. If it's cheerleader, they put cheerleader. If it's minecraft warrior. They do not want to put that there.
No.
But cheerleader is. But they do. But they do. You know, if there's something that kind of gives a little bit of a description of kind of their, you know, their personality.
It's cheerleader cheerleader cheerleader. I guess because immediately you have this vision of like this peppy bubbly bubbly. You know, a attractive girl that's cheerleader and popular. And now we're going to talk about this horrific crime that she did. So anyway, 22 year old Laken Snelling is a former beauty pageant contestant and university
of Kentucky student. She is now facing new legal developments in the death of her newborn baby.
A Fayette County grand jury has voted to indict snelling on a charge of first degree
manslaughter according to a statement from the Lexington Police Department. Under Kentucky law, that charge carries a possible sentence of 10 to 20 years in prison. Now, I read that when the grand jury, they convene that they had four options for
“charges based upon the new evidence that the baby had been born alive, right?”
So the highest charge would have been murder, but they didn't go with murder. They went with first degree manslaughter because I read that there was some type of, they allowed her, I guess, to have some type of emotional distress. So that it got, so they indicted her on a lesser charge of first degree manslaughter. That would mean she planned it all along, like when my baby's born, I am going to.
Right. And I guess for this grand jury indictment when they convened, I'm sure there was not evidence to support a premeditated type of, even though I do know that they were searching her snapshot, her conversations, because I believe they're looking for evidence that she is aware that she's pregnant. Right, because she had this pregnancy.
Yeah, no one knew, did she not show? Well, I read that her, because she has me. I don't know, you know, I was trying to figure out. And I do believe that she was currently cheering at UK while she was pregnant. And she's also, it's called stunt.
“So I believe, I don't know a lot about UK cheerleading.”
First of all, UK cheerleaders are good, they're very athletic.
And she's stunting. Like they're, you know, like what Annabelle does. That's physically. When stuff like this happens, I think of all those women who want to be pregnant, who become pregnant and then have difficulty in pregnancies. Like me?
Well, yeah, or just just it's nine months, it's a long time. It's hard on them. They have to hold a job. They can barely hold a job. You know, people that have a rough time not getting pregnant, but just through the pregnancy. And then cheer she is stunting, cheering, and jumping all around as if she's not pregnant. Right. And I did read that her roommates, because she lived off campus, but she had roommates.
Sorry, I assume she lived in an apartment or something.
Her roommates had suspected that she was possibly pregnant, but they could never confirm it.
So I don't know. I mean, obviously. I suspect she was pregnant. I don't know. I didn't know that, but I thought I don't know. Maybe maybe just she was sick a lot. Maybe she did look a little heavier. I don't, I don't know. So anyway, at the time of her arrest in August of 2025,
Snelling had already been charged with abuse of a corpse, tampering with physical evidence, and concealing the birth of an infant. Those charges remain part of the case. So she still already has those charges that she was charged with back in August of 2025. That's when they found the baby, but now she has this fourth charge of first degree manslaughter.
Investigators say the grand jury's decision followed testimony indicating that the baby was born alive. And we know that this last charge of first degree manslaughter comes later, because they had to do all the life of the baby. But the medical examiner had to do all the testing to determine that the baby was actually born alive, and then a fixated.
So that's where the manslaughter charge comes in.
“Police. So do we go over the basic facts? Did she just get delivered at home?”
Yeah, we're going to get to that. I'm just kind of giving like a brief outline of what's going on, and then we'll get into like some more details. Police previously reported that the infant's body was discovered wrapped in a towel and placed inside a trash bag, which had been hidden in a closet inside snowing's bedroom. Authorities also revealed that an autopsy determined, this is later,
that the cause of death was asphyxia, although the exact circumstances of how the suffocation occurred could not be determined unless she talks or confesses. But as far as I know her initial story is that she gave birth, and the baby was alive,
It whimpered, or made some noises, and then she passed out.
But like she claimed she passed out on top of the baby, and then woke up later, and like the baby was dead, which is a very elaborate story,
“which is also like, really, you should have gone into a hospital.”
So let's talk about the timeline of events. So this was on Wednesday, August 27th of 2025, so this was over last summer. Police were called to an off-campus residence near the University of Kentucky after roommates reported finding blood inside snowing's bedroom. Now, here's, I read more about this more details about the roommates.
First of all, the roommates heard a lot of noise going on for an hour inside her bedroom. Like, like, contractions? Like, like, like her response to contractions? Yes, so she first, the noises were five minutes apart. Yes, they were four minutes apart, and then...
They claimed that there was also such a loud thump that a picture fell off the wall. Like, I think in another part of the house.
Oh, our kids caused a lot of havoc, and we've never had a picture fall off the wall.
No, we haven't. So that was, so she's in this, her bedroom alone, giving birth to a baby, and there was a lot of noises, and a lot of activity going on in this bedroom. Wow, her roommate. And the roommates are what, thinking that she's just...
I don't know, it says, according to investigators, the roommates became alarmed after hearing unusual sounds earlier in the day. So then they hear all these weird sounds, this, like, a thump, but picture falls off the wall. There's all this crazy stuff going on. Then she actually leaves, and she tells them that she's sick, she has an eaten all day, and that she's going to go to the doctor.
So she leaves the residents. Once she leaves, the roommates go into her bedroom, because they're like, "What the heck was going on in there?" And that's when they go in her bedroom, they find a blood soaked towel on her floor, and then in her closet is a trash bag, and they open the trash bag.
And there is blood and placenta, and... Well, everything, I'm building my cord. Right, how'd she cut the, that means she cut the, like, that's... I don't know how this girl is. Well, that's a lot to go through.
Yeah. To be willing to go through.
Right, alone in your bedroom, and never ask for help,
and not call 911 and not yell for me. Yeah, but tell me, I can use screen for help. I do. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So do you, sir, you get a cold, you're down and out.
That's not true. But we'll talk about that later. So then after the roommates go into her room, and they find all these things, and they find the stuff in the closet, they call police. Officers arrive at their homes, snowing was not present,
because I told you she just left. Apparently, she left and went to McDonald's, and got herself some food. Wow, you know, she's, she's, she's some protein. Right, so she reportedly stopped at McDonald's,
and then parked outside a student medical clinic before eventually returning homes. So she never actually went into...
“So she considered getting medical help, was that what that was?”
Maybe, or maybe, I don't, I think she just, she doesn't know what to do with herself. I don't know.
So she goes and gets food, and then she goes to a medical clinic,
and she sits outside, but she doesn't go in. When she returns to the residence, the police are there, and she was detained and taken in for questioning. She has another court date coming up. I believe it's April 8th.
So she's going to go to trial. I'm sure, or unless she pleads out something. I don't know. But obviously, at this point, I'm sure they're collecting all that evidence, because I know they're looking into her snapchat history.
I'm sure they want to look at her cell phone history. I'm sure they're trying to put together a timeline. Are you all in a corner better? A boy friend. They're, yeah.
Right. So what did Lake and Snelling tell the police? So while receiving medical treatment at the University of Kentucky Hospital, Snelling agreed to speak with investigators and waived her Miranda rights, according to search warrant affidavits.
Again, we're talking about a young girl. I don't know how I feel about... I mean, she's an adult. I don't know how to have a baby and smaller it, so... I guess she is...
She's all enough to waive her rights. To waive her rights. Snelling told police that she gave birth around... Well, we have a question. Sometimes, like, in this case, she waived her rights.
And for our purposes, let's assume she is guilty. Right. Because she probably is. Like, do we care that she waived her rights? Like, good.
Incriminate yourself. Because you're a crook. But she's not a crook. She's a killer. She's a even worse.
She's a killer. Right. Like, who cares that she waived her rights? Do you know the Miranda Rights? Do you know them?
Do you know what they are? Like, Miranda versus Arizona.
“Well, I know that, but I'm saying, do you know what it is?”
Yeah. You have the rights for main silent. You have the right to... And attorney? And attorney?
Not a Ford one. One will be provided for you. Is that it? Are there any more? Well, anything you say can't be...
You just against you. You know what? You know, I was watching... Because I watched those body camp videos a lot. I know you love the body.
I know you love the body. I know you love the body. I know you love the body. It's good. Like, see, don't shopla.
Right.
I see.
It's a scare tactic for antaball.
I got it.
“But anyways, she asked about the Miranda Rights.”
Because the guy... The cops usually pull out a card and read it. It's like... Think of their dumb. Like, shouldn't they have it memorized?
Yeah. And only they probably haven't memorized. But do you know why they read it? So they don't mess up. Ever.
Right? Well, no, because you can memorize something and not mess up. But then if you go to court and you're questioned by the defense attorney,
did you give her Miranda Rights?
Yes, I did. Did you read all... Did you give them all the Miranda Rights? How do you know? Then they can say, I pulled out my card and I read it.
Instead of, like, I think I did. I remember everything. So that way... So you're saying, let me... So you're saying, let me...
So you're saying, let me... It's a little extra layer of protection for the police. Yes. Okay. All right.
Snowing told police that she gave birth around 4am on August 27th,
saying the baby fell to the floor of her bedroom during delivery. That must have been what the loud... What was she on the bunk bed? I don't... I don't know if she had bunk beds, but I'm sure.
She was probably on a bed, and I'm sure the baby probably rolled off the bed and felt... Yeah, we know that still wouldn't be allowed to thump like that to knock a picture off. Well, I know, because you're talking about, like, a 7-pound baby or something. I don't know. I mean, no offense, but if we fell, there would not be a loud thump either.
I don't know. I was thinking, what is going on in that room that made, like, the wall shaking. Kicking the walls or something. According to investigators, she also stated that after the birth, she stayed awake briefly before falling asleep and unintentionally lying on top of the baby.
She later woke up and noticed that the infant had turned blue and purple according to the documents. Snelling reportedly told officers that she wrapped a baby in a towel and laid beside the child on the bedroom floor saying it gave her, quote, "a little comfort." No, you know what? She knows... She knows to say, because I don't think it's a crime to have a baby outside a hospital. No, that's not a crime. You have a baby.
I mean, you could do it negligently, and it might be some criminal negligence, right? Like, if you're in an alleyway or something, right? I don't know. I mean, there could be some criminal negligence if you're not taking reasonable precautions. But there's no crime in having a, you're not required to have a baby in a hospital. No, that's what it's like. So here she is saying, I had a baby. I intended to keep the baby. I love the baby. Oops, I fell asleep, and I killed the baby.
So that way, it's not a crime. Right, which is actually... Which is what they all say. Yeah, but I'm just saying for such a young girl that went through something traumatic like that, that's a pretty quick story to come up with. No, she probably planted all along.
My question is, and this is what they're trying to figure out with all her snapchat and text messages is, did she know she was pregnant? Because there are girls... Oh, yeah, I remember that. There are many girls. I watched them. What was on their series? We watched called, I didn't know I was pregnant.
“Yes, there was on TLC, I believe. I used to watch them all the time, because I'm thinking, how do you not know your pregnant?”
Right. But there are so many cases of women who just are like, oh my gosh, I have back pain. I need to go to the hospital, and the next thing you know, they have a baby. So the question is, did she know she was pregnant? And she concealed her pregnancy. And then she planned to kill the baby once it was born and hide it.
Or was she shocked when she went into labor and freaked out and didn't know she was pregnant? That's a better story for someone to come up and say, I don't even know I was pregnant. And then I had this baby and I freaked out. And I was overwhelmed. I lost a lot of blood. I fell asleep. I woke up and the baby was dead. Right. So it'll be interesting to see what further evidence comes out in this case that could actually solidify whether she knew she was pregnant or not.
It takes us one snap for to say, like, I'm pregnant or whatever. Or something with a boyfriend or anyone. She then claims she went back to sleep until her alarm sounded later that morning. Investigators say that when she woke up again, she cleaned the blood and after birth from her bedroom, place the baby still wrapped in the towel inside a trash bag and also put the placenta inside a sealed plastic bag before placing it in the trash.
So what did the autopsy find? So a later autopsy concluded that the infant died from asphyxia, though the specific mechanism could not be determined. And that's the question.
“Does that mean like smothering the mouth and nose versus choking?”
Did she smother the baby? Did I mean? I don't know. Or I mean, I guess. Well, she killed the baby. That's really at the end of the day. It doesn't matter whether it was, it's not like, well, a pillow is a mitigating factor. Right. According to the warrant, snowing in her roommate stayed in touch through a snapchat group chat. Around 4 a.m. on August 27th, one roommate message that she had heard aloud noise like something falling.
Another roommate responded that she heard it as well. One of them noted the disturbance continued for roughly an hour. Later that morning, shortly before 9 a.m. snowing sent a message. Okay, this is what she tells the roommate. She does it by snapchat.
She sent a message explaining that the noise had been caused by her passing out.
Basically, like she sang, I just passed out and fell down.
She said that she had been feeling well had not eaten and had planned to seek medical attention. And then we know that that's when she then left the residents went to McDonald's and then sat out in front of the medical facilities. That's your happy place McDonald's. So let's talk about what has happened since her arrest. After being taken into custody, snowing was held at the Fayette Fayette County detention center before a judge allowed her release on $100,000 bond.
She was placed on house arrest and she went back to Tennessee. So her parents are divorced her mom and dad both live in Tennessee. It's one of house arrest for someone like this and house arrest really to keep them from getting in trouble again.
“That's like, what do you, where do you want? You wanted to go straight to jail?”
I don't know. I'm just saying like, okay, wow, good. She's saying the house. I mean, well, I think the house arrest is just temporary until they determine whether the baby died by natural causes or whether the baby died. And now that they know that the baby, but she's still, she's still on house arrest even though she's been arrested. This is the case where it, to me, gets confusing because it's like so, so tragic all around. And I don't know her story. What if she has, what does she, was in serious fear and her parents and, you know, and just immature, obviously.
I don't know. What do you do? Throw her in jail for the rest of her life? Is that really solve and make things right? I don't know, but we did, but the manslaughter charge.
First of all, manslaughter, what was it? Carries, what? 10 to 20 years in prison.
See, social shows? I don't know. Because I'm a big believer that prisons to keep them from, from causing more harm. I don't know. There's multiple reasons to put them in jail, right? Punishment punitive. Yeah. Punishment. Hopefully they, they recompose themselves and they learn their lesson.
And the other one is to keep them from committing the crime again. So, I mean, I don't know if it's good. I don't know. It's just terrible. So she's placed on house arrest. And she, I read this. She splits time between her mom's house and her dad's house and 10 to see.
But what it said was, she spends days at her dad's house and nights at her mom's house. And I was like, that's a straight mom. Mom lets her sleep with her boyfriend. And her dad won't. Oh, is that what you think? I didn't know. What do you think?
I don't think she currently has a boyfriend, but I don't know. Maybe she does. I don't know about that. I just thought that was a weird split day. There might be a lot of guys out there going. That's not my baby. Right.
It wasn't me. Selling also with Drew from the University of Kentucky. She's no longer a student there where she had been a member of the school's stunt team, which finished runner up at the NCAA Championships the previous year. They're a good cheer team, just to throw that in there.
We'll see. You talked about the media. Keep referencing cheerleader, but you're doing the same. Who cares if she's a good cheerleader? I don't know. I just thought I would disturb her. What the grand jury's decision.
Selling is now facing a first degree manslaughter charge.
“You know what always confused me about manslaughter?”
manslaughter is a lesser charge than murder, but it sounds so much worse. Doesn't it? Like why isn't it manslaughter is your highest charge and then murder? I mean, the words slaughter? I don't. Who came up with that? Who thought of that? Why is it not quite murder?
It's the manslaughter slaughtering. I know the first time I heard of manslaughter. What? I was watching episode of Chips. Yes. They were drag racing.
The cops were undercover. And then they wanted to Jim Baker. They were going to go after him for manslaughter charges. Just Jim Baker. He was punch a partner.
No. You didn't watch the show? No. I don't think I've ever seen an episode of Chips. I mean, I know who they are and I can visualize it. And also knows a lot about night raider.
Oh, I love night. If we ever put it to recap night raider, change your man. Oh, yes, I am. All right. Move on.
Let's finish this. So with the grand jury's decision, snowing is now facing a first degree manslaughter charge along with her original charges that were related to the death and concealment of the incident. Her next court date, she'll be arraigned on these new charges. It's coming up in April of 2026.
So we will continue to follow that because I definitely want to follow this case. And see what happens. So what do you think? Do you think someone like that? Let's just assume she's guilty, right?
We're jumping on that. Mm-hmm.
“You think a sentence of 10 to 20 years is what is needed to make things right?”
Do you think nothing's going to really make-- I mean, nothing's going to make a better than the baby's dead. But like, what do you think she should? No, I think she deserves jail time. Yeah.
She's young. She's 22. I think there's a difference between her actions and someone, you know, like that just premeditates murder and goes out and kills. Like the 16-year-old, that took the girl out.
You know, when we talked about friends like these in the last episode,
I think there's a big difference between that.
I think I would like to know the reason why she was concealing the pregnancy.
“Did she come from a very religious family where her parents be upset?”
Was there a boyfriend? That's better said than what I was saying. Yeah. You know, what are the circumstances surrounding it? At the end of the day, she caused a death.
The child never gets the opportunity to live and have a life.
So I believe she should be punished. I just think there is a distinguishing difference between her actions and someone. It's not the same kind of violent behavior that someone might want to kill again. Unless there's more evidence that comes out that she knew she was pregnant, that she planned it, that she knew she was going to suffocate the baby.
That takes it to another level for me. If that could be proven. But let's just follow it and see. In 2023, former Bachelor Star Clayton Eckard found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story.
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That day is just seared into my memory. I'm a culture writer and F1 expert Lily Herman. And these are just a few of the questions I'm tackling on no grip. A Formula One culture podcast that dives into the undurished Lord Pockets of the sport. Can each episode a different guest tonight will go deeper into the wacky mishaps scandals and sagas,
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Obviously, you kind is the overwhelming favorite in this tournament. But I be honest, I think people are kind of sleeping on Texas experts are suggesting that UCLA is the number one challenger to you can. And that right after that would be Texas. SEC is so deep and so thick and just about everything. I really is annoying.
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“Wait a minute, Sophia, did you just say he lost everything?”
That's right, it's an aridine too much drama week on the okay story time podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, "I just inherited a fortune after losing my mom and now my girlfriend's entire family is coming out of nowhere with their ends up. One sibling wants me to fund their whole lifestyle. Another vanished for four years and suddenly reappeared, and my girlfriend is already giving my money away." Hold on, Sophia.
So the girl he wants to marry is already sending money out the door. And that's just the beginning.
He makes a plan, sets up a trust, and finally thinks he has everything under control.
Okay, so things work out then? Let's just say the people he trusted the most are the ones who ended up shocking him the most. To just the money end up being worth going through all this? To find out, listen to the okay story time podcast on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's move on to another case that's been in the news that I've seen a lot.
A lot of conversation, a lot of headlines about this is Jason Hughes. He was the teacher who was killed by a student prank. Have you read about this or heard about this? I know.
“This is an interesting discussion too, so.”
This is in Georgia. So Jason Hughes was a 40 year old teacher and golf coach in Gainesville, Georgia. And he died after a tragic accident connected to a prom season prank.
On March 6th, so this just happened recently.
Hughes was struck by a pickup truck outside his home. According to the Hall County Sheriff's Office, the truck was driven by Jaden Wallace, an 18 year old student, who was with four other teenagers and they were toilet papering Hughes's trees. Oh, yes, I didn't know by name, but I do know the story. So Jason Hughes is this beloved math teacher and he's also a golf coach.
The prank was not a we don't like this teacher. The prank was actually. He was a beloved teacher. Almost like a. What do you call it when it's like a ritual, right? Like a.
What was a tradition tradition? Tradition right. It was a tradition that these seniors did every year.
“Did you toilet paper anyone's house when you were in high school?”
High school time. I did too a couple times. And it was like a toilet papering someone's house was like a fun harmless prank. Other than there was a lot of toilet paper in the yard in the morning, but. Well, you did it to people you knew.
And that usually were the girls that you didn't, you know, didn't give you attention. Oh, yes, right. So investigators say the prank is considered a long standing tradition among some students during prom season. Authorities reported that Hughes went outside during the incident. Tripped and fell into the roadway.
And then was struck by the vehicle, which was driven by this 18 year old student. Which I think the vehicle then stopped. Oh, yeah, he's out. Yeah, they were like race off. And I believe I'm probably getting any of you, but I believe the the teacher waited for them.
He anticipated them to come. Yeah. And he was guided catch him in the act. But that is a way of playing the game. You're playing along with them, not to catch them in tournament.
No, but to kind of have the laugh by catching them and being a part of it. Right. Jaden Wallace, that's the team that ran over him. And the other teams stopped immediately and tried to assist Hughes until emergency responders arrived. The teacher Jason Hughes was then transported to a local hospital.
But later died from these injuries. So Hughes was a teacher. Let's just get into a little bit more details about who he was. He was a teacher in a golf coach at North Hall High School, where he was well known in the community. You know, I was reading about him and it's just sad because this was a guy that like dedicated like he was one of those people.
Like he was trying to make differences. Right. Like he was the kind of teacher and this is why I was beloved by all his students because he was the kind of teacher that wanted to be a teacher. Right. That was like trying to make a difference in people's lives. Like he loved his students. He was very integrated into the school and he was a coach.
I'm he also served as the North Hall school director. It was called for NG three, which means next generation three. It was an organization focused on mentorship and character development for students and local schools. So he was described by many as not only a teacher, but he was a mentor, a leader, and a strong presence in both the school and church communities. He has survived by his wife, Laura Hughes, and he had two young sons.
You know, it's one of those things where it's such a tragedy. Because if there would have been a split second difference anywhere between when he left the house or when the kid was probably backing the truck up,
it never would have happened, but it's one of those tragic incidents that just came out the door one second later.
Right. But I guess when he came out and he slipped in the driveway, it's the exact moment that this kid was,
I don't know if he was backing out or pulling forward, but either way, it jus...
Following the accident, Jane Wallace was charged with first degree, first degree of vehicular homicide, which is a felony, reckless driving
which is a misdemeanor offense.
“If convicted of vehicular homicide, Wallace could face three to 15 years in prison.”
There were also four other teenagers involved that night, Elijah Owens, Aiden Hucks, Anna Luki, and Ariana Cruz. They were all 18 years old, and those, the other ones that weren't driving were charged with criminal trespassing, which is a misdemeanor and littering. So the response from the family after this accident happened, so after Hughes's death, his wife Laura Hughes, who is also a teacher at North Hall High School, publicly stated that she and her family support dropping the charges against the teens.
You know, I thought that was really such a stand-up thing by the wife. Because she recognized it as just an unfortunate accident, there was no bad intentions. She didn't want to interrupt their opportunity for living and growing and become something and making something of their life. Right. So it's like he would want them to be able to go back to normal living and pick up their life and, you know.
So the Hall County District Attorney said the case is currently under review. However, I did read that they did drop the charges. Yeah. But I have a question. So it's not up to her to press or not press charges.
No, it's not. It's up to this thing. But they can consider. Yeah. And I think they did.
Because once you won't testify against them. Right.
They charged him with first degree of a vehicular homicide.
They later dropped the charges against them.
“And I believe that's because I think the community kind of had an outpouring of support too.”
So it's like the wife saying, please don't prosecute. Well, those kids didn't run away. They didn't. They stayed with us. It says it was an act to me.
It says it was an accident. Absolutely. And, you know, the wife, you know, something they did not want. And they wanted to help him. Right.
And him waiting his excitement, waiting to catch them and kind of play their, you know, catch them at their game for fun at not to, you know, to teach them a lesson. Right. So they decided to drop the charges against the kids, which I think was the right decision. Yeah.
I don't. It'd be more tragedy for her, too, if she had to go through trials. Right. And I don't believe in any sense of the word. To me, this is nothing more than like we talked about a split second tragic thing that happened with,
you know, it's completely accident. And it's so unfortunate. And I don't, I don't think that as far as what I read, I don't think that Jaden, the one driving was even operating the truck in a negligent manner or acting crazy or doing, don't else.
No, but he might, he might have tried to speed off. I don't know. It says that they did that. It didn't even get that far. I don't know.
He has a attorney said that there was no evidence that he was acting and any. Okay. He was driving away. He was driving. And I probably driving normally.
Again, I think it was nothing more than life. And you know what, you were talking about everything kind of lined up till this happened. Also, just, I mean, people get hit by cars and they don't die. And if it wasn't going fast. So I mean, that also had a lineup perfectly that it was such a tragic.
That it, yeah. My vehicle that he actually died. Right. Everything was just bad. So on March 10, Jaden Wallace and his parents released their first public statement through their attorney.
The family said that they feel deep remorse over Hughes's death. Jaden Wallace also issued a personal message saying that he intends to honor Hughes's memory and live in a way that reflects the coach's faith and values.
“So, I mean, I hope that this, here's the thing.”
I don't think this kid deserves any kind of punishment because he has to live with the punishment. There's probably lessons to be learned for everyone, you know.
I just, I always think cars are just, I mean, 18 year old driving a car, it's other than to get from point A to point B.
It's very dangerous for young kids to drive cars, you know, racing around, thinking it's funny, laughing out loud, playing loud music. I mean, cars are can kill. Right. But again, I don't think he was doing anything negligent. No, I'm just saying the lesson to learn.
Like, okay, because when I saw this, I thought, yeah, cars are dangerous. Always when I drop daughters off at, like, even like church chances, I always tell them to be careful in the parking lot because there's boys that like to show off play loud music, race around, and you got to be very, very careful with that. And then there's, I don't think you know what senior assassin is. No.
It's scary. It's a game that all the seniors play at the end of the year. Where, where are you talking about your high schools? Yeah. What in Orange County?
Well, I don't know about all Orange County, but the high school's our kids wo...
Okay. So you're talking, we're a Shelby and Chanel went to. So Shane's from, we're talking about these high schools. Yeah, but this is a new thing that didn't happen when I was young. So senior assassin is, they all, it's really well organized, really quick.
It's really well organized and you have teams, like up tos, and you try to assassinate each other with water guns. And that's it.
“And you have to capture it on video to prove that that you killed the other, assassinate the other person.”
And then the last group standing wins the prize, which is everyone put in 10 bucks or whatever. But the danger in that is because they're using their cars to find each other, to track each other down. And so the last time around when Chanel was doing it, it might big advice was you cannot be racing around. You know, you can't do that. And one of her friends got into an accident trying to follow someone else.
And it could have resulted in death.
And that's the part that always scares me.
Yeah, as young kids driving cars, so you don't have an appreciation or how dangerous it can be. Even in this case where it was just driving away laughing because, you know, someone was trying to catch you and then you kill them. Right. Just again, just to reiterate this, I was trying to say before you were talking about that. I don't think Jane Wallace deserves any type of formal punishment because he has to live the rest of his life with the punishment within his own head.
That he, his actions, whether, and I'm not saying they were. I imagine he's emotionally. Damn it. Troubled. Right.
And he has to wake up every day and he has to go to bed every night. He has to go to that school. He has to go to that school. And he has to know, and he has to live with the fact that this man no longer is living and has left two sons with no father because of the actions that happened that night.
“And that to me, that's that he has to deal with that. That's the only punishment. He doesn't even deserve that, but that's what he has to live with the rest of his life.”
So a go fund me fundraiser was created to support the teacher's family and help build a college fund for his two sons. As of today, the fundraiser has raised more than 489,000 with an original goal of only 75,000 donations have been paused. Yes, they pause that after you reached like a certain when you've reached so much. I mean, how long have I done?
I don't know. I never heard of that, but apparently that's what they do.
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Find out, listen to the okay storytime podcast on the iHeart Radio App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, let's move on to the last case we're going to talk about today, because I thought this was an interesting headline that I saw recently. This is the case of Michelle Hunley Smith, who is the woman who went missing for 25 years, who just recently reappeared and showed backup. So if that's the case, was she missing? Well, her family thought she was missing and her husband and her children.
She knew where she was. Yeah, she knew where she was. I don't know anything details in this case, so all right, well, we're going to go into this, but this made me think of how many times have we had cases like just here's just an example of like Josh and Susan Powell and remember Josh Powell's like, well, she does laugh. She just she just distracted. She left her keys.
She left her her phone. Her guests. And how many times have we said, a woman doesn't just knock out the front door. I'm doing a guy guys going to take us home. Right.
They don't just disappear and you know, leave three kids behind and don't come back. Great. Well, here we have. Okay, the exception to the room. We have the exception to the rule.
“This is Michelle and she is the exception to that.”
So more than two decades after she was reported missing, Michelle Hundley Smith, a North Carolina mother of three has been found alive. Smith disappeared in 2001 after leaving her home in Eden, North Carolina to go Christmas shopping. She was Christmas shopping at Kmart. It's just three children. And she never returned.
At the time, she was 38 years old. I have a theory. Yeah. Okay. All right.
You keep working on that. Well, I continue on. I've solved the problem. Okay. Okay.
On February 20th, the 2020 six. This is very recently investigators with the Rocky Camp County Sheriff's Office confirmed that they had located Smith after receiving new information the day before. I don't know what this new information was. I was trying to figure that out. I was reading a lot of articles on this case because I was trying to figure out the exact details of how they came to know where she was located.
I don't know. I can't find it. I don't know. So if anyone actually a lot of listeners out there, like they will DM me and give me more information because everyone, you know, there's so many people out there that are that are physically located or emotionally tied to some of these cases we talk about. So if anyone knows Michelle and you know any details, please send me a message because I'm really curious to know how they found out where she was detectives met with her in person at an undisclosed location in North Carolina and confirm that she has alive and in good health.
According to authorities, Smith told investigators that she left her family m...
Officials also noted there is no evidence of foul play related to her disappearance and the cases now considered resolved. Smith has requested that her current location remain private. She still doesn't want anybody to know who she is. Though her family has been informed and they know that she's alive well and safe. Let's see what happens this Christmas.
She disappears again. So let's talk about the original disappearance. This is back in 2001. So Smith disappeared on December 9, the 2001 after leaving her home in North Carolina. She reportedly planned to go Christmas shopping at a Kmart in Martin'sville, Virginia, which was about 20 miles away. Her husband later told police that she never returned home from the trip. The case even let this is what bad. This is mind boggling for me. The case led to a long investigation involving multiple agencies and the FBI.
During the 25 years her after they found her. No, this is during this is an 01 when she disappeared. I mean her husband reports her missing. He said she went shopping.
And she never returned home. Okay, where was home? She said North Carolina is her home.
And where was she found? She was found in North Carolina. No, she was found in North Carolina. Okay, so she didn't travel far. No, no, she was located in North Carolina. Okay, so that was in the same place.
She was located. She was not giving up her location. I don't know the city. I want to go live where she is. I don't know the location there. And no one can find us. Okay, listen though. Let me just break this down because this makes no sense to me. She goes Christmas shopping. She has a husband and three children in a home in a life. Okay, she goes Christmas shopping in 2001. And she disappears and the family and the husband never see her again. And there's multiple agencies involved in her search and the FBI.
“How did this woman slip away and create a full new life for herself?”
And no one could find her in the FBI. Can't even find her?
You really want to know how to do that.
Tell me. You want to know how to do that. Oh, did this woman do that? On February 19th of 2026 investigators received new information related to the case. This is the part that I don't know.
So if anybody out there knows, I want to know what this new information is. I try to look it up. It says it has not been released. No, there has not been released. I cannot find it detectives followed up on the lead and located Smith the following day. I mean, it was good information because they found her. That was one tip, but they found her.
Got any more tips for us. Sergeant, disher, and detective, worldly, met with her face to face in North Carolina.
“I did not disclose location. How many of those original investigators have since retired?”
Then now they're reading the news gone. What? Right, authorities confirmed she was alive and good health and Smith requested that her current location not be made public. I think that's the part that makes me. She's like, please, please don't tell anybody. Smith reportedly told investigators that she left voluntarily in 2001.
She said the decision was connected to domestic issues that she was experiencing at the time.
However, I did read that there were no phone calls or like she never called or made any complaints of domestic violence.
There's no paper trail of any domestic violence is what I'm saying. According to the sheriff, she did not provide detailed explanations about those issues. She's like, please don't tell anyone where I am. And so what she did is that a crime? I don't know. We'll get into that because I was wondering about that.
And did she go by the same, I know you made it on those, did she go by the same name? Did she change her name? That's the details I don't know. She married the new kids. No, these are all the questions I have that I don't know.
What did she look like? Well, there's a photo, but we'll-- It's her career. I don't know. Let's get her on the podcast.
Okay, how can we do that?
“Invest-- can she do not know where this location is and how you did it?”
She could write a book. How did this appear? An investigation for 25 years. Investigator's also said there was no previous official records documenting any kind of domestic violence. This is a worthless case to discuss.
It's more frustrating than it is. No, I'm putting it out there because I'm hoping that people can give me more information or that more information. There's anyone else in this undisclosed location. Please let us know. I would like her neighbor or someone out there that knows her.
Could you please send me some messages? Is her photograph of her out there now or people can identify her? She's like totally-- I don't know the photograph I have, I believe. It's like a glamour shot photo, so I feel like it was from 2000.
I don't feel like it's recent.
Wait, she had kids. Yes, yes. I know.
So after Smith was located, investigators consulted the local district attorneys office.
See, they have the same question. They're like-- Please show us the way. Is this a crime? No, I think they contacted the DA.
And they're like-- Why is it a crime? That's not a crime. Officials-- It's not like a crime law of the land.
But obviously, she-- It's a poor crime.
“I'd say no, that's what I was getting it.”
Officials considered whether any legal issues related to abandonment might apply. At the time, she left Smith had three children who remained with their father. So so far, no charges have been filed. Prosecutors say the case is still being reviewed and no final decisions have been made. Was--
You know what though? This is what it makes me think. Maybe the crime is. Because you remember when-- The crime is not fair.
We have to take care of our kids. Yes. We can't run away. That is not fair. No, listen, let me just--
I just thought of this. I remember Sherry Papini disappeared and she faked it. She faked the whole thing. And then they had all those agencies looking for her. And they spent all the time and money looking for someone that was a missing person.
But she'd faked everything. That's-- In the case, we went over-- Yes, it is. Sherry Papini.
But then they made her-- I believe she was responsible for retribution as far as like all the-- Money that was spent trying to find-- Well, she-- She also misled law enforcement.
Yeah, I understand. I understand. I understand. She should write a book. She should.
“Prosecutors say the case is still being reviewed and no final decisions have been made.”
Now you don't know what to do. I know they're like, is it a crime? I don't know the question. So Smith has a daughter named Amanda who had previously created a Facebook page dedicated to finding her mother. Oh, that might have played a part in it.
What do you mean? I played a part in what? Finding her? Yeah. Because then someone probably sent her a message.
Oh, said, is this your mom? She lives next door to me. She's my neighbor. Yeah. After learning her mother had been found--
No, Amanda-- I don't think she was involved in the actual finding of her mother. She just found out after the fact that her mother was found like a live and well. Amanda shared that she felt a wide range of emotions about the news. She said that she is unsure what the relationship will look like moving forward. I don't know if--
The-- the her and the kids? There is none. Oh, I didn't like Amanda sweetheart. I don't know if there's going to be a relationship.
Your mom disappeared for 25 years and never made an attempt to contact you.
And she's alive and well. And she's in-- I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Exactly.
So I don't know if you're going to be celebrating mother's day together any time soon. I mean, sadly, right?
“I mean, that sucks at having kids, but that mom wants nothing to do with them.”
So Amanda, this is the daughter. Also asked the public not to make any assumptions or accusations about what had happened. What tells us what happened, and then we won't assume anything. I don't think she knows, but she defended her father publicly saying that her mother's disappearance should not be blamed solely on their marriage.
The family has asked for privacy while processing. Well, she's had this to do. She's-- She's had a lot of privacy. Okay, so my theory--
Yeah. It doesn't answer all the questions that we just asked. But she probably disappeared. Like, she went shopping. She planned to disappear going shopping.
She probably thought, I'll disappear Christmas time. I will go shopping. And I would tell her when I'm going shopping. When all along, I'm going to disappear to this undisclosed location. Mm-hmm.
So that way, it looked like she was abducted.
Okay, here's the thing, though.
In order for her to have pulled this off and for no one to be able to find her, not even the FBI, there had been a lot of planning that went into that. Because she goes shopping, and then she disappears. Which means she had to have had some type of residence set-up somewhere. She might have gone somewhere and just been homeless for a while.
We don't know. I don't know. I really don't know. She could have made a crime scene, then disappeared. The way she didn't been gone forever.
And then he could have been charged. Oh, you mean she could have just like, you know, cut her finger and less of blood evidence. Like around the house or something? Yeah. Well, she didn't do that.
She just disappeared. Yeah. But she did it very well. So. And we'll, we may never know.
No, I hope there's more information that comes out because I need to be a documentary. Well, right now there's not a lot to put the documentary. I can beat 30 seconds. Yeah. Here's a glam shot.
Yes, here's her glam shot. And she has been found. And now we've found her. And what does she look like? She'd be like the glam shot today.
Like she has an aged at all. Yeah, like she just went and hid somewhere. She was going to try to ride her. I owe chamber somewhere just frozen in time. I don't know.
We'll see. All right. Thank you guys so much. But we know her name. Yes.
Her name is. I know. I'm saying we know our name. So I don't know. Can we look up her Facebook page?
That's a daughter set up. Oh, yeah. We can look at that. I was going to look at that. Yeah.
Okay. Okay. We'll do that. We're going to. We'll make a social clip.
And we'll put her glam or shots on it. She was like, oh, let me.
Oh, let me know.
Let me know. Let me know. Let me know. Let me know. Oh, they didn't do glam shots.
No. They did it. Okay. Did your glam shots when you did it? I did glam or shots when I was like.
Did you? Yes. When I was like 18 or something. My sister and I went and they went the mall. At the mall.
Yeah. They're like a kiosk. Yes. I did. I did not so excited about it.
I bet you were. Oh, my gosh. They made our hair so big.
“And I think it had like a leather jacket.”
We have that photo still. I don't know. I would have to ask my sister. It was because if you ever go missing, I'm going to use. Please do.
Please use my glam or shot. Okay. All right. We have to move on. We have to end this.
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