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I'm Emily Simpson. I'll be your host today, and my co-host. Shane. Okay, before we start, we were just having a conversation before we started recording. So I feel like maybe we should just continue it.

Well, just a little bit of things that have been in the news lately is the Cornhole player. And we were just talking about that. And I was saying to you, "I don't know what Cornhole is." And you said, "It's a sport."

No, that's not what you said. It's a sport. You have a beanbag and toss it in across the way, and you try to get it in the whole. There's different points. How is that a sport?

I thought this was just something that when I showed up at a barbecuing. I was a chair a sport when there's no team that they're cheering. Really? Because it's so athletic, and it's so skill. You don't think they're skill and cornhole?

I feel like it's just something you do in your back heart. It makes no sense to me that sheer is not considered a sport that would be in the Olympics, but Cornhole is cornhole in the Olympics? I don't know, I'm asking you. No, I don't think so.

Anyway, all right. So I just wanted to touch the news story of the guy who is a quadruple amputee, but he's also a cornhole like a champion. And he's in the news for murder. So anyway, we were just discussing that, but we're going to talk about that later.

And another episode, but I just want to bring it up because it's on current events, and I didn't know what cornhole was. Okay. So, that's it. You just throw bean bags into a hole.

Yes. And that's an easy champion. Yeah, I'm guessing. I'm guessing the bean bags didn't have beans in them originally. They probably had like kernels or something.

“Oh, and that's why it's called cornhole.”

I'm just guessing. All right. Anyway, let's move on to what we were going to talk about today,

Now, we did an episode on Cory Richens a few months back.

So if you have not listened to it, you can find that episode where we go more in depth into the murdered, but I wanted to do an update on the Teppis. This is the case that took place in Columbus, Ohio. It was the husband and wife that were murdered in their home

“by allegedly the ex husband of the wife, remember?”

He's like the medical doctor. Oh, yeah. And he was far removed from her for a long time. They didn't have kids together. They weren't tied together in any way.

Right. It was almost randomly like he showed up four years later. Right. Eight years later. Right.

So there have been some updates. Saying it's a murder in Ohio doesn't narrow it down very much. I know. I know.

We've talked about this before because I'm a big fan of forensic files.

You ever watch forensic files episodes. Now that I'm saying this to you, if you watch forensic, there's actually forensic files one and two. But if you watch them for some reason, the majority of the cases take place in Ohio. So anyway, this is another case in Ohio.

So this is Spencer and Monique Teppi. So according to the coroner's findings. So this is what the new update is. Is that the medical examiner's report has just come out recently. And it has been made public.

“So originally, I believe the report was that he was shot once and she was shot once.”

And I'm not sure why that information came out because it's not accurate. Now that the medical examiner's report has come out. So according to the coroner's findings, 39 year old Monique suffered a gunshot wound to the right cheek and a total of nine gunshot injuries. So it's much more severe than they were initially reporting.

Okay. Several of those wounds were to her torso, including three to the chest. The report also noted a greenish bruise on her left calf. And her cause of death was attributed to multiple gunshot wounds affecting the head, torso and limbs, resulting in extensive internal and structural damage.

But do we need in all the information? I mean, as a lay person, it's like shoe shot and killed. Do we need to know medically? Like how. Yes, we need to know. Yeah, because now we have more information about this case.

And I'm telling you initially, it was reported that they were shot once. But how does it help with this criminal case? It doesn't help.

Well, first of all, it just gives us more things to talk about.

She was shot nine times. To me, that is a big difference between being shot once and being shot nine times. Nine times is an overkill. Nine times is rage. Nine times is.

Okay. For a bench or hate or like there's something more than I just want these people dead. Yeah, I figure if you kill me, it would probably be more than nine times. It would be way more than nine times. The report further stated that Spencer, this is her husband, was shot seven times,

hitting the torso, the chest, his extremities and a fatal. So we had to reload too. Yeah, in order to, I don't know what kind of gun he had, but if he had a reload, like he was like, okay, I'm not done with the only ads more bullets than they shoot some more. I'm just, yeah.

Like let's say it was a six shooter. I have no idea. Let's say it was a six shooter. He shot her six times, reloaded, shot her three times. Shot him three times, reloaded, and shot another four times.

Right, and that's the discussion. That's what I'm talking about. This is more than just someone that's not going to their house and one of them dead. This is someone that had, like to me, this is a rage killing. And to be able to shoot someone in the head, and then you're shooting the extremities,

and is that because they're trying to get away and you shoot someone in the leg and the arms. I don't know. Anyway, I guess it comes down to motive because, like we were talking about earlier, this ex-husband was very far removed from their life. At least that's the way it looked.

Do you endorse it, right? Right, right. You traveled a long way to get there. Yeah, they were married like a short period. Very short period.

And they went their separate ways. And I think she even walked away and gave him the house.

“If I remember that's what we talked about earlier.”

It wasn't even like there was contention as far as her taking all the assets or anything. I think she was just like, you can have it. I'm going to leave. So where are this rage? You should have the gun, too.

I'm out of here. Yeah. The Columbus Ohio home, more Spencer and Monique Tapi, were murdered is listed for sale on Zillow. I do love Zillow.

Do you look at Zillow very often? No. We were talking about this the other day. You know, people say, oh, I googled that person or something. I don't Google, I like to Zillow people.

Like if I have someone's address, if I'm guilty of this, I'll just admit it. If I get invited to a party or I get an invite for a party and it has an address on it, like I like to Zillow it. I want to see what people paid for their house,

what it looks like, what the inside looks like. If they rent, if they own, I'm a Zillow person. Yeah, not because you judge people. You're just curious. I just want to know.

No.

So the house is for sale.

It's on Zillow.

“The property is a four-bedger and four-batham house”

with over 20 meters. She wasn't, were they murdered in the house? Yes. All they were, I thought it was in a car. What?

No. It was not in a car. It was in the house. In the middle of the night. He snuck in.

There's a lot of crimes going on. They overlap. It makes them up. There were children in the home. And I believe it was in the house.

There was such a tragedy. I don't know. But it says the asking price is 775,000. And that Zillow listing has been viewed by over 60,000 people in less than 20 days.

So many of those was you. I hate that a lot of it was me. Actually, I thought, like, at some point, we need a legally brunette podcast on the road where we travel to all of these.

And reenacts? No. I don't want to reenacts. I just want to travel to all of these places. We could start in Ohio.

We could make our way to the next family trip. To Utah. There's a lot going on in Utah. Then we could just, you know, make our way over to Idaho. Where?

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We can go visit all of the homes. Yeah. I think that's great. Zillow. Dot com.

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This is before she went to trial. So if you would like to listen to that episode, you can find it under legally brunette. Unless this do a brief synopsis, so everybody can kind of catch up where we are before she goes to trial.

So Cory Richens is a Utah mother of three, whose husband named Eric Richens was found dead in their home in March of 2022.

At first, his death appeared sudden and unexplained.

You know, they do say, I saw some video of the medical or whoever, when they, when she called 911, you know, the first responders. The first responders, thank you.

And I saw an interview with one of them that evening. And they were thinking initially that it was a brain aneurysm, because he's young, he's in a 30. He doesn't know how. Yeah, there was no signs of foul play.

There was a sign of looking at him. Right. He died in his sleep. He'd been dead a while when they arrived. And also, they said there was a lot of blood.

So I don't know.

“I believe so because there were no wounds.”

He, he didn't die from. So I guess maybe like, does blood come out the nose or mouth or something? So they initially thought it was a brain aneurysm. I know it was Corynall. Yeah, his Corynall.

That's where the blood was coming from. Did, um, so now she's, at this point, she's thinking so far so good. They think it's a brain. But she's like perfect.

Yeah, she's called with that. She's called. She's called. Book publisher going it. It's a go.

It's a go. Yes.

So at first his death appeared sudden and unexplained.

But a later investigation determined that he had very high levels of fentanyl. He had five times the normal limit, which I don't do people normally a fentanyl. And there's this. I don't think it's a normal. I think it means lethal.

Like he had five times the amount that he needed to die. Oh, so five times. So the body can withstand a certain amount. And I think generally. But he had five times that amount in his system.

And the months have followed Corey publicly presented herself as a grieving widow. And even row a children's book about coping with the loss of a parent.

“However, as a name of the book, do we know the name of the book?”

It's called like, are you there or something? It's a children's book. And she-- Did my mommy kill you? Is that what it's called?

It's yes. That's a sequel. That's part two. Also, not only did she write the book, but then she had the audacity to reach out to news stations in the Utah area morning shows.

Yes. And reach out. She said emails and asked if she could come on and discuss her book because she believed that she was the only person that had authored a book specifically for children. So quickly after she murdered her husband?

Yes. So in the months of fall. And you know, in the fence of those morning shows. Yeah. I mean, they probably hear the story and think, oh, yeah, come on.

This is a touching moment. You wrote a book. Your husband passed away. Yes. Yes.

She's the grieving widow. Right. She's the grieving widow. And then when she goes on set or when they reach out to her, you know, they were very comforting to her.

So she was getting all kinds of love.

So I actually watched.

“There is a 2020 special that has to do with the Cory Richens trial.”

And they actually interview the two newscasters that interviewed her originally.

And they were asking them. They were, they were giving their thoughts. And they were saying how sympathetic they were to her initially. And how she just came off like a grieving widow. And they felt badly for her.

And there were three young boys that were affected by this. And then to learn then after that, they received an email that said she killed her husband. And like in all caps from like an anonymous email after she went on. Yeah. Yeah. So was it from the publishing company?

I don't know. That was a domain.

Actually it was self published. She didn't have a publishing company.

Yeah. So however, as authorities dug deeper in the Cory Richens, they uncovered a complex web of financial issues. Insurance policies and alleged suspicious behavior leading up to Eric's death. So let's just talk about let's go through a little bit of a timeline before we get to the trials. So before the murder, this is June 15th, the 2013.

This is the day of Eric and Cory's wedding. Cory is asked by her mother-in-law to sign a pre-not right before walking down the aisle. I don't know. How do you feel about that? I like how they waited. They knew they waited. They knew to wait right before she walked down the aisle.

I don't know about in California. You have to have a certain cooling off period. You can't just do it like on the day up. Yeah. You also have to have your own independent counts. No.

You can't wave counsel. You have to have accounts. Right. Clearly, this is Utah. So I feel like this isn't California. We're talking about Utah. So I think you can't hand someone to pre-nup as they walked down the aisle and say sign this or he's not marrying you.

The agreement specified that certain assets would remain Eric's property in the event of a divorce.

“However, this is the important part and this is what you have to hold on to in order to understand a lot of things.”

However, it also included a provision stating that if Eric were to die while they were still legally married, Corey could inherit some of those assets. So a lot of, according to this pre-nup, a lot of, because he came from a wealthy ranching family. I don't know if you knew that. But they like properties or ranch cattle.

A lot of, probably equipment. A lot of land. So he came from a pretty wealthy ranching family. Corey did not. Corey came from more humble beginnings. So this pre-nup limits her access to his separate property. However, the only way she can inherit some of his separate property is if he dies before her while they are still married.

According to the agreement, those assets included Eric's 50% stake in C&E stone masonry. That's his business, along with various pieces of equipment and properties such as a forklift, skid steer, scaffolding stalls, two trucks, and a dump trailer. They're very specific in this. Eric owned a pretty well. Well, he made a lot of money. He made pretty good money as a stone masonry person.

So he did well. I would assume that as a lot to do with building homes, and then those retaining walls. You know, all the, a lot of homes and use of tools have so many retaining walls around their home. Yeah, because you're like, hillside and stuff. Right. But also just general walls too.

You know, like if they want stone in the front of the house and stuff.

So it doesn't always have to be the retaining walls.

Right. So then a March of 2019, according to a petition filed by Eric's sister. This is Katie Richens Benson. Cory opened a bank account without Eric's knowledge or permission. Cory allegedly stole or misuse approximately $494,000 of Eric's money according to this petition. I'm then in April of 2019, Cory Richens started her own real estate business,

called Kay Richens Realty LLC. Her business focused on buying renovating and flipping homes for profit. Later on, we learned that Cory's business was drowning in millions of dollars of debt. You know, it's, it's interesting that they, they were a young couple and had three boys together. But I, but I feel that they each had their own business, but they kept it very separate. It sounds like she's trying to make something herself.

She's trying to buy some type of, you know, her own kind of name or business or make her stake somehow. But she didn't really have the talent to do it. Well, you know, in this 2020 special, I watched and they interview a lot of people that were involved in her life. They did state that she came from humble beginning. She was not wealthy and she didn't grow up wealthy, but Eric did. And they said she was very driven.

“And so I think this real estate company that she started was exactly what you said.”

She's trying to establish herself. But she's just trying to jump ahead and get to the top right away as opposed to not starting small or something.

Sounds like like a, like a Meghan Markle.

She's always, do you follow?

Do you follow Meghan Markle? Follow her stories. She's always trying to be somebody and trying to buy her her kind of fame.

“And that's what this lady reminds me of.”

She's trying to buy like a big business real estate muggle or whatever it's called. Muggle. Muggle. So you, this is new. You follow Meghan Markle. I, I hate follow.

You hate follow her online. I follow the stories. What do you? Do you have the as ever jam? You don't know that? I, this is.

She's so mad right now. Yeah. And it's, and their business is called as ever. And then Netflix like dumped her. Have you ever seen her reality shows?

No. Oh, my gosh. That's another thing. We should recap.

You want to recap Meghan Markle?

It's pretty good. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. I love that you hate follow her. It got canceled.

All right.

“Around October of 2020, Erica said to have met with a divorce attorney.”

And she sells candles. Oh, my gosh. She sells candles. And a lot of people have complained that they don't have wicks in them. I'm serious.

That's like a common complaint. Why, why would someone of her? Not a rioty. I don't know. The other selling candles.

She doesn't know the righty. She's done with. Yeah. Do you think, she's like the, um, do you think that's the reason he left the monarchy or the. It was her.

Yeah. She's just that. Absolutely. She's think you'll go. No.

Right. Back to Corey Richen. Erica said to have met with a divorce attorney. And in a state planning lawyer. And around that time, he updated his will and created the Eric Richen's living trust.

Naming his sister Katie to oversee the estate for the benefit of his three children. He also moved to share of the business into the trust and changed the beneficiary. Beneficiary of his five hundred thousand dollar life insurance policy from Corey to the trust. But he did all this without Corey knowing. So, you know, and this is one.

I just isn't anticipation of her killing him. That's my question.

“Because there is a point in time where he does say, I think my wife's trying to kill me.”

Right. So I think my wife's trying to kill me. Let me move my funds over here. Right. So why don't you wear like a bull profess and not have her make you drinks?

So this isn't 2020. And I don't know if it's at this time if he's fearing for his life. Or he just doesn't trust her financially. And he knows that she's misappropriating money and trying to access his money. And so he puts all of his assets in a trust.

And then he cuts her out. She's not named as the beneficiary. Why would she? She's divorce her at that time. You know, that is the millions of dollars.

I mean, it's one thing if you're like, you know what? I'm trying to control the finances. Like, it's just a financial thing. I'm trying to, it's another thing if it's like, she's trying to kill me. And she's taking all those money and all this stuff.

It's like, well, then what, what's left to hold on to? I don't know. Then we get to January of 2022.

Corey is accused of changing the beneficiary on Eric's two million dollar life insurance policy

to herself without permission. The change was discovered by the insurance company and the designation was switched back to the original beneficiary, which was Eric's business partner. I guess she was forging his name. She's trying to sign herself off as a beneficiary.

I don't want guilty of forgery. I believe, yes. Then we get to February of 2022. Corey richens allegedly obtains fentanyl for the first time. She obtains the drugs from her occasional housekeeper Carmen Lover.

And Carmen Lover is, um, really, like, I would say the start witness and the trial because she testifies against her. Corey initially asked her to obtain prescription pain pills, allegedly for an investor with a back injury. However, law martesified that an early February 2022 richens requested

quote, something stronger and asked for some of the might. She was lady and said, I need a pain kill, a pain killer for an investor of mine. Yeah. Why wouldn't that person just go get their own? Obviously.

I mean, we know why she wanted it. But is this person really falling for it? Well, this person has a long history of criminal activity. Okay. This is Carmen Lover.

Why she didn't even give her an excuse. She should have just been like, I want him because I want him. Well, I guess she's trying to throw her off the trail that has anything to do with, you know, her husband. So she makes up some story about how it has to do with some other guy that has

back pain or something. I don't know. But Carmen Lover is, um, she's had a long history of being arrested for drugs, selling distributing, being involved in drugs. And so Corey asks her to get fentanyl for her.

And then she asks her, then she comes back to her and tells her that she needs something stronger. And she quotes says some of the Michael Jackson stuff. So I guess that's how she describes it. Carmen Lover ends up giving Corey 15 to 20 fentanyl pills, which Corey allegedly paid

Now we get to February 14th of 2022.

This we believe is the first time that Corey tried to take out her husband.

Do you remember we talked about this in the earlier episode? We did where was Valentine's Day? And she makes some of sand. Well, she didn't make the sandwich. She actually bought the sandwich.

And she went and picked it up. It was a bagel. It was a bagel sandwich. And we believe that's the first time that she tried to kill him with fentanyl. She put it in the bagel.

Well, that's what, I mean, the thing is there's no smoking gun. There's no video of her putting it and the bagel. There's no video of her putting it in the mosque out. Meal. I mean, that's the, that's the missing piece, right?

But obviously he believed that she was trying to kill him. And this was on the first time as on February 14th because she bought him a bagel sandwich for Valentine's Day. I think she even left him like that. See why if he, I believe she'll know. Why is he letting her give her give him food?

Well, why is he still living with her? Why is he still married to her?

“Because didn't he tell his sister or didn't, who did he, he told someone that like, I think she's trying to kill me, right?”

Well, he texted. I believe some friends. Yeah, so imagine like, okay, so he's texting or calling and he's like, hey, my wife's trying to kill me. Hold on, she's bringing me a sandwich. Yeah, I got to go.

Well, I mean, a sandwich in a drink. Well, no, he's still, he takes a bite at the same amount. She leaves it for him on Valentine's Day. I think she leaves like a little cute note. Like, I love you happy Valentine's Day.

Enjoy your bagel. Enjoy the bagel. He's a whole thing. Don't just take a bite. Anyway, he takes one bite of it and he immediately has a reaction to it.

And he thinks it's like some kind of allergic reaction, I guess. He takes a benefit only. Also gives himself a cell. That's where she went wrong. She did it too much.

Too much fentanyl? Yeah, like, so like, initially, like when I put supplements in the kids drinks. Yes. If you put too much, they say tastes funny. Yeah.

And then they don't drink it at all. So you have put the right amount, so they drink the whole. Right. So he only took one bite. And he initially had a reaction.

Right. He gave himself the epipin shot in the leg. I guess one of his sons had an epipin. So he did that. He drank Benadrulli took a nap.

She should have put it in the epipin. Well, yeah.

She should have contacted you first and consulted.

And then she said it was sloppy. She's sloppy. So that was the first time that he believes Corey is trying to poison him. And he texts his friends and says something to the effect of like, She almost caught me or something.

I believe she's trying to poison me. Now the question is, why is he still living with this woman in the same home, using the same dish? Why did she give him the poison the second time? The second time is in the Moscow meal.

She makes a drink form.

“See, why is he letting her handle his food and drink?”

I don't know. I, that's, I don't know. So then we get to, this is remember this is Valentine's Day. February 14th of 2022. Then we get to February 26th of 2022.

So we're just, you know, like, two weeks later. Corey allegedly contacts Carmen Lover again and asks for another $900 worth of fentanyl pills. So. Which meant she used the entire amount in the bagel sandwich.

Yes. That she needed more. Which was probably a huge amount in your right. So he took one bite and he had a reaction immediately to it. So now we get to the actual murder, which takes place on March 3rd of 2022.

Corey and Eric were home at night celebrating the closing of a home purchase for her real estate business. So I guess she allegedly or she bought a home. I don't know if this is the, she bought something. Is that mansion?

I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. It might be.

But I do know that at one point she did buy that huge mansion.

It's like right now it's currently like a $7 million mansion or something.

Yes. That's massive. The guest home on the property is 3000 square feet. Right. And you know, in regards to that mansion, her boyfriend testifies in the trial.

And they also show text messages between her and the boyfriend talking about this mansion. Because she tells him that her dream is to have that mansion turned into an event space where they can rent it for like $15,000 a day. Weddings and, you know, corporate events and all those kinds of things. And that the two of them, she and her boyfriend live happily together in the guest house.

And this is like their dream. Right. So I don't know. I don't know if that's. I think I saw that.

“I think I've seen that mansion because I saw a picture of it.”

And it looked like we drove by it when. Oh, what do you tell last time? Because it's pretty recognizable. It is. Well, and there's nothing else around it.

No. It's just like in the middle of. Right. Because I remember the first time when I saw it, I was like, Well, that's like huge.

Yeah. But that was huge. And the second time when we went in December. I drove by it and I saw it again. Emily flew to Utah and I drove by the way. And then I'm not scared of flying.

She is. Which is, it was a little backwards. Why should I fly? Because you don't want to drive. Yeah.

I drove because we had to take equipment around all the ski gear.

And so anyway. The point is, I saw the mansion. You saw the mansion. Yeah.

“When you saw it though, you didn't know that it was Corey.”

Richard's dream home to live with her boyfriend after she murdered her husband. I thought it was a nice venue that we could rent for $15,000 a day. Yeah. I did think that. For our 20th anniversary, we renew our vows.

Shall we rent it? Yeah. Because I thought you'd be on one side of the house. I'll be in this house. And what a nice peaceful day.

Perfect. Sounds amazing. She gets more drugs. She gets more fentanyl from Carmen. Then on March 3rd, 2022,

they're celebrating because she purchased a new home.

I think it might be the mansion.

She said she prepared him. This is what I don't understand. She tells investigators or detectives place. Whoever that she made him a Moscow meal. I don't understand why she gave up that information.

Because liars when they're confronted and they're being interrogated. Like guilty people. I mean, not all. But generally guilty people will tell you. We'll just talk.

They'll gap. Non stop.

“To try to make it like I'm not hiding anything.”

So they try to make it like I'm being upfront. I made him a drink. I did this. I did that. A little bit.

A gap. Non stop. I'm just because I in my mind I'm wondering why she gave up that information.

Because the only other person that would have known that she made the Moscow meal would have been

Eric who is now dead. So. Because like I said, she's trying to make it like I put everything on the table. I'm telling you everything I got nothing to hide. And they're nervous.

So they're just yapping. Right. So she tells investigators she prepared her husband a Moscow meal in the kitchen and then brought it into their bedroom where he drank it while they were in bed along with taking a THC edible. Is that is that a call of drink the Moscow meal? Yeah, it's alcohol.

I'm according to her. She called a Moscow meal. I don't. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. It has meant and it you're supposed to. It's very specific. You're supposed to like. Like what is that thing?

You like grind the ment and. I don't know. And then it has a grind the fentanyl with a mint. Yes, you grind the fentanyl. Right.

According to her account, you know, maybe it was a Moscow meal because it has a very like a minty taste. So maybe she was trying to do a drink that would like cover up. Yeah. You know, maybe that was specific. Probably.

Because you can't have champagne. And then they are like apple juice or something. Right. And then dump some fentanyl in it. Yeah.

So yeah. Maybe the Moscow meal was like purposefully. It has a great texture now. It has texture. It has mint leaves on it.

That it could withstand five times a lethal amount. Right. According to her account, she then went to settle one of her children for the night and ended up falling asleep and one of their kids bedrooms shortly afterwards. So she does claim that she wasn't even sleeping in the bed that she went and slept in one of her sons rooms because he has night terrors. So then.

So the murder sleeps with the sun. Yes. I'm scared murder. Can you come sleep with me? What?

The mom's the murderer. Yes. And the kid is scared at night. Yes. She should be the one he's scared of.

Yes. He doesn't know that yet. You know, that's another thing I was thinking earlier. So if he's worried that she's going to kill him. Why wouldn't he think about the kids?

It's not far fetched for someone to murder the kids to get out of a relationship too. And he is not protecting the kids as far as we know. You're really upset with this guy for not kicking. Well, I'm not upset. I'm just thinking about it.

You know. Yeah. Why is he with her? I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know why he takes the time and energy to like put things in a trust account without her knowledge and to do all these things behind her back. But he just doesn't divorce the woman or leave the house and move out. I don't understand. And take care of the kids.

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[music playing] So then this is around 3.22am. This is on March 4th, 2022. Two, Corey claims that she went back to her room and found Eric unresponsive at the foot of their bed.

Summit County Sheriff's deputies and EMS staff arrived at the home at 331am. She does call 911 and I did listen to the 911 call. She tells the 911 callers that he's unresponsive. And they ask her to do CPR.

And they ask her if she knows how to do CPR. And she says-- She says that defeats the purpose. She says the 911 him dead. No, very weakly.

And then the woman says, I'm going to tell you how. And I'm going to count with you. And I'm just picturing her on the other end of this phone line.

While this operator is like, OK, 1, 2, 3-- She's not doing anything. She's just standing there with the phone. She's like, I'm-- Uh-huh.

Uh-huh. I'm doing it. Yeah. Meanwhile, she's probably buying stuff online and looking at her bank account. Right.

“So I think they even said that there was no evidence”

that she had actually tried to perform any kind of CPR. Which makes sense? I mean, she-- she wants to be a dead. She's not going to die.

She just want to get a third round of fettin' off in this lady.

Right. Um-- Other nine hundred dollars. They found-- so when EMF staff arrived at the home, this was around 331 AM.

They find Eric, Richens deceased. And according to court documents, the responding paramedic thought that he had been dead a while. Eric Richens' obtopsie later shows that there were fentanyl levels. Five times a lethal dose, which we have talked about,

and that the drug was ingested, orally, not through any type of accidental exposure, which I guess means because they find it in the stomach. That means he ingested it, right? Mm-hmm.

Also, and this was interesting because I was watching this 20-20 special-- Oh, it's-- was it being like shot up or something in the-- Right. It's true in the stomach. So obviously, he ingested it.

So, you know, then the question is, you know, what did he eat? What did he drink? He swallowed it. Also, I watched--

She calls the medical examiner when the autopsy report comes out, and she's asking very specific questions. She's challenging it. Well, she says--

I guess because on the autopsy report,

it says something to the effect of illicit fentanyl, or illegal fentanyl, or something like that, making a distinction between-- And I learned this-- Oh, there is a prescribed--

There is. And I learned this because I was-- I researched this. There is fentanyl that hospitals or doctors use, and very, very, very tiny doses that can be used,

like more-- It's stronger than more-- It's like ridiculous, it's stronger than more for now. So they do use it a medical grade type that they use, and certain--

Whereas this was just a street drug. But this was a street drug. I guess because it was-- I had synthetic-- I don't know.

I don't know much about street-- I don't really know much about street drugs. Let's keep it that way. But this was clearly something that was not medical grade. Which shows intent to kill.

Right. Well, it shows that it's not like he got exposed

at a hospital or something.

It shows that someone purchased it. And she said, on the phone, when she's talking to the medical examiner,

“she said, well, um, like, well, where would that come from?”

And he said drug cartels. So, I mean, it was very clear that this is, you know, was obtained illegally. So, a couple days after Eric's death, Corey files a claim against Eric's trust,

contesting Eric's sister as his personal representative of his trust. Sorry, couple days after? Yes. Well, actually, let me tell you, the day after Eric died,

they had a party at the house. I was going to joke about her having a party. She actually had a party. I don't know if it was her that initiated the party, but they did.

Well, what was the purpose of the party? Like, what did she say? It was like a celebration of life type of thing, and this is the day after he died. And there were a lot of people at the house.

And his sisters, I believe his family was there. This is when the families are still... Even weirder, the family, so the non-murtars were okay with the party? Well, at this point, they don't know how they did. They're not questioning her yet.

Okay, that would be honest. Yeah. I die. Okay. And not at your hands.

I just die. So I didn't have anything to do with it. Right. 'Cause if you had anything to do with it, I'd know the answer to this question.

Oh, okay. So I die. Okay. The next day, or whatever, one of those timeprint is.

Yeah. My mom says, let's have a celebration of life. Let's have a party. Uh-huh. What would you think?

Well, I wouldn't be able to have a party because I wouldn't be able to get out of bed because I would be so devastated. I know you don't believe this. That's so bold.

You're looking at me like you're in shock right now. But that is true. If you were no longer, you're the father of my children. You're my husband.

I've been married to you for almost 20 years. If you died suddenly, I would not be able to have a party or get out of bed. I would be devastated. So now let's say it's your sister's husband.

He had unfortunately passes away. Okay. Right. It gets in a car wreck, so it's like clearly, you know, not foul play.

Hmm. And one day later, your sister says, I'm going to have a celebration of life. I'd like you to come. We're going to have a party.

Yeah. What would you think? I would think it was weird. Yeah. Okay.

I would think it was weird. I think most people would. Well, there were a lot of friends there. They're friends. I mean, it's family gathering.

Let's get together and have dinner and just be together. No, they were like drinking. I mean, talking and telling stories about Eric and all these things.

“Anyway, I believe the day after that, the following day,”

a quarry gets in a physical altercation. I don't know which sister but with one of Eric's sisters. Because, oh, because she brings over. She gets, um, she brings over a key. What's the person that gets in a, in a safe?

Like a like a locksmith? A locksmith. Yeah. She hires a locksmith to come and open his safe. Because she wants the will and all these other things that she didn't have access to.

So there's a locksmith there.

The sister shows up.

“This is, I think, two days after you died.”

I think this is the day after the party. This, you know, party they had. The sister sees the locksmith truck and she screams. And she loses it. She's like, oh, my gosh, this woman's going to like, you know, get the will or whatever.

Who knows what she's going to do. I'm sure they, well, that's, that's less far fetched. Then the party. Yes. But then they get in a physical altercation and Query gets arrested for assault.

I guess she punches her in the head and in the neck or something. Uh-huh. So this is when everything just starts to, everything becomes very divisive at this point. I feel like there was, I think that's, I know now why she did it. But that's less suspicious trying to get into the safe.

Less suspicious. Yeah, what she's supposed to do. What she's supposed to do. Well, I don't try to access to all the documents. That's reasonable.

I mean, I know she is a murder. I'm not trying to, I know what her intent is. But looking from the outside, if you don't suspect murder, then her getting a locksmith

“to get to the safe is, I think, expected.”

And then, but a party is not. That's all I'm saying. I know about the party because her best friend testified for the prosecution at her trial and her best friend talked about that and talked about being here and things like that. Um, so Corey, we talked about this.

The locksmith getting to the safe. I don't know what happened. I think the sister stopped it. And the sister told her, that's when the sister told her. Eric cut you out and you're not a beneficiary.

And I think that's when she first found out that.

So Greg, they got in this screaming match and they were screaming at each other. That's right. Most drama locksmith ever saw when he came somewhere. Probably. He's probably like, this is good.

Did he testify? I bet he testified. You know, I don't know if the locksmith. It's testify. I don't know.

But then in March of 2023, this is when Corey publishes a children's book. It's called Are you with me? And it's about grieving a deceased parent. She talks about how she could not find that her children were struggling. I like how she's just, you know, so concerned about her children.

That they're struggling with the death of their father. Yeah.

“Well, that's what would happen when you kill the father.”

And then so she writes this book. And then she goes around on her little media circuit to talk about her book. Then we get to May of 2023. And Corey Richens is arrested for aggravated murder and three counts of possession of drugs with intent to distribute. Later additional charges arise insurance fraud and financial claims.

And you know what? She was not initially arrested. She was arrested for aggravated murder. But then, you know, the attempted murder charge came after. You know, that because then once they started, they started uncover more.

A covering more text messages, interview, interviewing friends or family or whatever. Then came the attempted murder charge of the Valentine's Day sandwich. So that actually came after the aggravated murder charge. So, and then in June of 2023, Corey is denied bail and remains in custody. I know her attorney argued that she wasn't a flight risk.

And that she had three children. So she should be let out on bail. But they were not having it. So she remained in jail the entire time.

From the first time she was the time she was arrested.

When was she, again, was it how soon after the murder? Well, she murdered him in March of 20. And she was taken in in March as well. She murdered him in March of 2022. She was arrested in May of 20.

Very soon after. Well, a year. Oh, no, a year, a year, a few months. She's been in jail for at least three for coming on three years now. Right.

So she's denied bail. She's in jail. This is June of 2023. Then there were some pre-trial developments that happened before. She goes to trial.

We talked about this in the first episode. Do you remember the walk the dog letter? The walk the dog letter? Yes, it's called the walk the dog letter. Because it's like a four-page handwritten letter that she wrote while she was in jail.

And remember, she's very specific. Yeah. At the very top of it, it says in bold letters with exclamation points. Walk the dog. She's in the letter too.

Well, she later says that it's just a manuscript. And it's fiction. But she's in who'd she give it? Well, it's, I think it's going to her mother. Because it talks about how her brother, when he testifies.

Because she says, you know, he'll most likely have to testify. That he needs to testify to the fact that Eric travels to Mexico. And gets drugs and Mexico. So she's trying to establish-- She's trying to create a story.

She's trying to create a story. So then they do, you know, those random searches. They're searching her room. That's how they find the letter. So sell.

Not her room. No. It's not her sweet. Not her sweet. But her sell.

They find the walk the dog letter. Then she claims.

It goes to the prosecution. Has it right? She claims that it's fiction. That it's just part, you know, she's an author. It's another book.

It's another book. You know, she's a well-known author who writes books. So this is just a work of fiction. And this is like another self-published case. It's going to be a work of fiction.

Also, I know there's some issues with a lot of things that this happens when she talks to her attorney. She also claims it's like attorney client privilege. Things like that attorney client work product.

And this is when she has her first attorney whose name's Sky Lazaro who ends up not being her attorney when she goes on trial.

So anyway, then she's charged with attempted murder for the Valentine's day poisoning. Like I said, that came later after her initial charge. Then there are multiple hearings attorney changes and delays. And then the judge rules that she must stand trial. There is some conflict, I don't know what it is, but she ends up not having the attorney.

She had the whole time Sky Lazaro. She ends up claiming like there was a conflict or something that had to do with the other additional charges that she gets that has to do with the fraud and insurance and all of that stuff. I don't know if there was some conflict with that, but anyway, her attorney ends up withdrawing. And then now she has two public defenders who are going to represent her for her trial. So then February 23rd of 2026.

So this was very recently. So now we get to the actual trial. The trial begins. The prosecution, these are the main arguments.

“And here's the thing about the arguments.”

They're going to try.

I feel like they really work on emotive.

Because there is no, you have to, there is no smoking gun in this case. There's a law. It's all circumstantial. It's all circumstantial. There's no witness of her.

Like you said, there's no video of her putting fentanyl on the bail and handing it to him. Or into the Moscow mill, there's no witness that saw it. There's no one that can testify that she told them that she did it. So the jury has to take all these pieces of when she bought it. They have to believe Carmen Lobber and Carmen Lobber has a very shady pass.

She's been arrested multiple times. She also got an immunity deal for her testimony against Cory richon. So that's another thing to take into account. Do you believe her?

Do you find her credible?

You know, that's for the jury to decide. So anyway, the prosecution goes into their opening argument. They're also going to establish the motives.

“And I believe there's two motives that they really try to hone in on in this case.”

And it's one, the financial gain. She once her husband dead because she's going to financially gain. Right? She has all this insurance money. She's going to collect from us dad.

And I'll be to her and it was all going to go to her. And then she also thought when she killed him that she was the beneficiary. She didn't know that he had made that trust and named his sister as the executor. She was aware that the prenapped said if he pre-deceses her. Right.

While Mary, she's a married. See, maybe he shouldn't do that in the thing. Maybe he should make it like. It doesn't matter. Dead or alive.

Right. So anyway, not only do they talk about a motive of the financial gain, but they also really hone in on the fact that she wanted her husband dead because she was having an affair with this guy named Josh Grossman. And that they what she wanted to fresh start. She was still with Grossman.

I don't think they're together anymore. I feel like that fizzled out. He's not supporting her. No. He testifies against her.

So we'll talk about that. So those are the two motives really. The financial gain and really how unhappy she was in her marriage that she wanted her husband gone so that she could have this fresh start with this new guy Josh Grossman.

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Listen to mostly human on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Then we get to testimony. We're going to talk about some of the testimony in this. Josh Grossman testifies against her. He testifies for the prosecution. He's the boyfriend. So this is so I can't imagine how embarrassing this would be, but they show screen shots of all the text messages between her and her boyfriend. What are they?

I mean it just sounds so middle school. Yeah, like what is it? Like I love you baby. I love you. I had a dream. We're going to rent out that. Can I get you a bagel?

Yeah. We're going to rent out the mansion as an event space. And then we're going to live in the, you know, the gas house together and have little farm animals. And it's just, and he's sitting there on the stand and they show it up on the screen, right? So that the jury can read it.

Oh, it's just like I can't imagine it reminds me of Karen Reed.

No, over the text messages. It was between her and that ATF agent when they were flirting with each other. He's on the stand and they like show the text messages and make him read them. And it's like how mortify our text messages would show motivation. They would show motive.

Motive. What? They like those tracks. Look at all the names she calls him. They don't call you that many names.

Not that many. All right. Okay. So there are text messages that show Cory was having and affair with another man named Robert Josh Grossman.

First of all, I have to say I watched his testimony.

This man, I, well, she likes redheads. He's a redhead. Her ex-husband was a redhead. He's struggling so much on the stand.

“Like, what? Like, like, it hurts him to say all this?”

Or like he feels dumb or I think I guess all the emotions. I mean, they have to ask him. Is he crying? A little. Yeah.

He puts his head down a lot. He has trouble speaking. They have to ask him if he needs a break. I don't, I mean, I don't know if he's struggling. Morely that he was involved with this woman that was married.

And now maybe he had something, not that he was involved with. He knew she was married, right? He knew she was married. Yeah. And there were there's text messages between the two of them that are like, "Once you get divorced, when you get divorced?"

Oh, no. And then there was other text messages where she kept telling him to hold off until Friday. Hold off what, till Friday. I think he was getting upset about her not being divorced. And he was questioning their relationship.

And she's like, just hold on until Friday. I got plans. Don't worry about it. We're gonna figure this out. So less than a month before her husband's death,

Corey Richens had asked her boyfriend, quote, "If I was divorced right now and asked you to marry me tomorrow, you would question mark." Robert responded, "Yes, and love with why oh you, of course I would." No, this is what they're showing, like, up on the screen during the trial. I just, all it does is show that she's checked out of the marriage and wants to be with this girlfriend. Right, so the prosecution is showing exactly that she's unhappy in her marriage and that she wants this fresh start, right, with this guy.

Josh Grossman. This guy ever have another relationship now because if he has a relationship with someone, he sends her messages.

Well, he'll probably never put anything in writing I got.

“Yeah, but then that new female might be like, that's what you told Corey.”

Yeah, I saw that. I mean anything. Josh Grossman testified a trial that he and Corey finally talked about Eric's death two weeks after it occurred. I think this is what they considered to be kind of like a bomb shell testimony from him. She, he testified that she asked him if he had ever killed anyone.

Right, well, let me get you contacts. He, he was in the military. And I believe he was on Grossman. Yes, the boyfriend. I believe he was on maybe any rack or something.

So he was on some, he was in combat zone where that could have happened. Yeah. So she asked him if he had ever killed anybody. And then she asked him how it made him feel or something along those lines. And then I answered her.

So there was a conversation that had to do with have you ever killed anyone? What's it like to kill someone? Yeah, right. So he testified to that. He's an army veteran.

That's why she was asking him the question.

And the two continue to date a few months after the death. But things eventually fizzled out. You know, I mean, why not? Why wouldn't they fizzle out? I feel like once you kill your husband and then, you know, they're onto you.

Yeah. Things might fizzle out with the boyfriend. There's also damaging digital evidence. It is a deal breaker. It is a deal breaker.

There's damaging digital evidence. Queries, internet searches included. Oh, yeah. These are my favorites. What are they?

I love it when they look at the Google search. Yeah. Killers. Just a stupid. What is a lethal dose of fentanyl?

Can FBI find deleted messages? If someone is poisoned, what does it go down on the deaths certificate as? Can FBI find my Google searches? Yeah. Luxury prisons for the rich in America.

Oh, my goodness. I don't understand that one. How to make a bagel sandwich. Query richens net worth. So she was very concerned about that.

However, these Google searches, I will tell you, they're the defense or her defense attorney Skylaser of talks about this. But she wasn't her attorney during the trial. But she gives her interpretation of this. These Google searches.

“You have to understand the Google searches were done after he had already died.”

It was not before. So her excuse for Query is, okay, she gets a death certificate. And she's told that he dies of a lethal amount. Okay, but we're the other ones. Okay, now that we know that this was searched after he was dead.

Read them quickly.

Okay, so now you know the timeline.

Yeah, after he died. Okay, that mattered. What is a lethal dose of fentanyl? Okay, so we'll write that one off. All right, because let's say it makes sense.

Yeah. Let's give her credit. I mean, she's still murdered.

“She's still murdered, but that's what I'm saying.”

We can write that one off. She gets a death certificate. The medical examiner says he died of a lethal dose of fentanyl. Okay, she goes that. Can FBI find deleted messages?

Okay, well, there's no reason to look at that one. Search that. If someone is poisoned, what does it go down on the death certificate as? Because she wanted to know for insurance purposes. Okay, well, even that you could be like, well, okay, whatever.

Luxury prisons for the rich in America.

I like how she claims that she would go to a luxury prison because she's rich. Is there a luxury prison? Is there a luxury prison? Are there luck? That's an oxymoron.

Absolutely. A very common luxury prison. Oh, my gosh. No. You know what?

People are going to think that I just abused you. I don't abuse you. Please send help. Oh, my gosh. Is this house a luxury prison?

I don't know, but this pocket can now be used as motive. Great. Thank you. Corey Richen's net worth. You know, she just wants to feel like she's worth something.

You know, she's actually in so much as that. Let me look at her. She has no net worth. She's in debt like millions of millions of dollars and her business is failing. That's like, that's the prosecution's whole motive is that she killed her husband for financial gain.

Because she's in so much debt and her business is failing. Let's see. I'm looking up Corey Richen's net worth. Nothing's coming up. Yeah.

She's not. She's not worth anything. She's not on anyone's radar to figure this stuff. No. She's in a lot of times that stuff's kind of just random numbers.

You know, also Carmen Lover, we talked about this a little bit before. But Carmen Lover is the drug dealer that she about allegedly about the, you know, fentanyl from. But again, this is where there is no other suspect in this case. So the defense. It's not like the defense is able to use a defense where they're pointing to someone else.

The other one, the other suspect is himself, right? He supposedly went to Mexico and got his own drugs. Well, no, I know. But that's the only explanation alternate explanation that's being offered. Right.

So the defense, what they're going to do is they want to, they're going to try to put reasonable down to the jury's mind.

“That's the only way you're going to get Corey Richen's off, right?”

You have to. The way you get everyone off. That's that you're going to have to establish some kind of reasonable doubt. The jury's going to have to sit there and go, you know, I don't know. How did the fentanyl get from here to here?

Was it her? That's the missing piece, right? No one thought that. There's no. I know.

I know. I know. But let's just deliberate now. Right. But let me tell you though, there was no fentanyl found in the home and there was no fentanyl.

She gave it all to him. No. But let me finish. There was no fentanyl residue found in the glass at the bottom of the cup. You know, I don't know how easy it is to wash away.

I don't know. But there was no fentanyl residue found in no fentanyl found in the home. So let's just, there you go. There's a little bit of reasonable doubt. I would hone in on that if I was the defense attorney, right?

No, I know. That doesn't create any doubt for me. So what? So she cleaned up. She washed the dishes.

“I'm saying, if you're representing her and you're her defense attorney, the only thing you can do is try to focus on him getting fentanyl somewhere else and they're not being any fentanyl residue in the glass in the house in the house.”

And the house anywhere. But that's what you have to do. That's all on this thing. This to me says that the alternate theory that he has his own drugs doesn't exist because there's nothing in the house. This doesn't create any doubt that she did it.

This creates doubt that he gets his own drugs.

Well, what she should have done was, you know, because I feel like when people are drug addicts like when I watch it on TV or someone does drugs, they always have like this little like a drug box.

Like a little toiletry bag. Like a little toiletry bag. Don't they? And they just like pull their drugs out. So I'm saying if she, she should have been smarter if she wanted people to think that he took the film.

So long. I think she could have done to be smarter about this. She needed to have like his like drug kit somewhere like in the house. She needed to create like a story. He said, just giving him drugs and later trying to figure out how to cover up.

Well, the other thing to create reasonable doubt is you, you want to, you want to establish that. Carmen Lover who really is the star witness for the prosecution has no credibility and you don't believe her. So she got in a immunity deal like we talked about in order to testify for the prosecution. So she wasn't she wasn't going to do any jail time for all of this drug related activity that she is going on selling and distributing and buying and all those things. So the question is, do you find her to be credible?

Do you believe what she says?

I believe that she bought you rich and cannot be credible and that's enough for me.

Okay. So you're there you are. All right. So then what I'm watching the trial, so the prosecution puts on their case, right? They call all these witnesses.

“I don't remember how many, but I think originally they had like everyone.”

They call it a list of it or something, right? And his family testifies and Carmen Lover testifies and Cory Richen's best friend testifies and the boyfriend testifies. All these, the ex-boyfriend, whatever, they all testify right for the prosecution. Then it's like the prosecution's case and chief is done. They're done presenting their case. And the judge says, okay, to the defense attorney.

You're on. You're on. You're on. It's now time for you to present your defense. You know what witnesses are you going to call?

And there's two defense attorneys, they're both public defenders. And they've been public defenders for years. I think together they have like 36 years of experience or something. So you're not talking about like newbies. And you're talking about various established public defenders.

It's two women. And you watch them and they're whispering to each other and they're talking.

And I'm assuming that they're figuring out like who should we call first or they have some kind of strategy.

And they, you know, the judges like do you need more time or whatever. And they're like, no. The defense rest. We're not going to call any witnesses. That's it.

She's guilty, you're on her. No. So I was like, what?

“They were going back and forth with each other.”

Well, they were whispering. I don't know what they were saying. But my assumption was when I'm watching them. I'm assuming you brought the file. No, you brought the file.

I didn't bring the file. You brought the file. No, I'm assuming. Yeah, I'm assuming that they were contemplating who they were going to call first or talking strategy. But then they said, no, the defense rest.

We have no witnesses to call. They called no one. They would be guilty. So they're like, okay, but that's not zealously. You know, they know that's navigating for your client.

I know that's not. I was just saying. Maybe they're just like, you know, she's a killer. So whatever. There's the part I don't understand.

So the defense rested without calling a single witness. Also, Corey Richens does not testify, which is probably a good thing. Right. I mean, I can't imagine.

I've never had good thing for them to testify.

Right. I mean, it would be more fun to watch. I mean, it would be fun to watch. But I can't imagine. We talk about that cross examination.

Like, she's just going to get annihilated. And so she chooses not to testify. And then they call no further witnesses. However, they had several witnesses ready to testify. But they changed their mind at the, at the, at the, at the.

You know, they watched the trial. Okay. I forget this. So she killed their husband. I still feel like, and I, it's, I've never been a defense attorney.

But in my mind, I'm thinking, wouldn't they call someone that would help establish that there wasn't fentanyl in the house and there wasn't any fentanyl. Like, I feel like they want something. They want to do something. But they should have kind of done something where they're questioning that and

leaving that doubt in the jury's mind. But they didn't, they called no one. They rested. There was no defense. So the verdict came out.

This is just recently that we heard the verdict. It came out on March 16th of 2026. The jury. And by the way, let's talk about the jury. It was only eight members.

Normally a jury has 12. No, and you taught eight. Well, and you taught 12 if it's capital murder. I know, but this is. Where they're seeking the death penalty.

But the prosecution decided not to seek the death penalty. I read that, because there's, there was only circumstantial evidence. Right. So it's going to be, it was going to be a long uphill battle to try to get that capital punishment.

To get the capital punishment. So it was really the low hanging fruit was life in prison. Right.

“So that's why I hear jury only has eight as opposed to 12.”

So the jury deliver alternates and four alternates. Yeah. So the jury deliberated for only three hours after hearing closing arguments. I think that was shocking to everyone because. All right.

Most of that was lunch time, too. Well, seriously. They probably like did she did it, right? Yeah, she did. Okay.

Let's get some lunch. They returned their verdict. Fining Cory Richens guilty on all counts, including aggravated murder, attempted aggravated murder, two counts of insurance fraud and forgery. She could be sentenced to life in prison without parole.

And her sensing is scheduled for May 13th, which the irony of that is that. That's also Eric Richens birthday. So she's going to be sentenced on his birthday. Happy birthday to Eric Richens and heaven. And it'll be interesting to see.

Do you think she'll get life without parole or things like that? I watched the verdict. And she was, she was not a happy lady. Well, her head, she, you know, or had hung low when they read that. And she was a little, yeah, she was.

She knew she was screwed. So there's a 20 left. How they did all the charges and the last one was forgery. Yeah. And don't think we forgot about the forgery.

Right. We know you did that. That's on there.

And it was really interesting.

But they show when she was in when she came in for her pre-trial to figure for her bail.

“I believe it was to see if she was going to get bail or not.”

Like she would be allowed. Oh, sure. They show her in the courtroom. And she was very cocky. She was like smiling.

Oh, yeah. She was on the cocky on the verdict day. Right. And they show her. They show a flashback to that or whatever.

And she looked very confident. Because I got that at that time. At that time. She had private attorney. So they told her.

Oh, yeah. We'll get you. We got it. And give us a retainer. We'll take care of you.

She's like, I got this.

I'm going to write a letter to my mom.

I'm going to write another children's book. How to how to testify. What say in trial? Yeah. So yeah.

They didn't call the brother.

“The brother that she told in the walk the dog letter.”

How to testify about how Eric goes to Mexico. No. You know, they also interview her family. Her brothers and her mom. And even her brothers.

Like they annoyed me when I watched them. Because they were so adamant. That she really was writing a manuscript. Like she was writing a fiction book. And I was just like, how?

I mean, I understand you want to stand by your sister. And I understand you could say, I don't think she did it. She would never do that.

She wouldn't do that to the children.

Like I don't know. I don't know. I mean, if the facts are there, I'd. All right. I mean, I can understand that to a certain extent.

But the fact that her brothers were just like, no, yeah. She, that wasn't a letter to me. Yeah. That wasn't about me. She was writing never.

She was writing a fiction book. I was like, now you just sound ridiculous. And now are you in on it? So anyway, again, her sentencing schedule for May 13. So we will obviously follow that and discuss that.

It'll be interesting to see what sentencing. She gets also during the sentencing. It'll be very interesting to watch and follow along. Because not only is she sentenced, but there's victim impact statements. So you know that his side of the family.

Oh, they're going to let her out. They're going to let her have it. She also has the opportunity to speak on her own behalf. I would assume that she won't do any good. Well, I don't think she will.

I don't think ever doing any good. It never does any. Of course they're going to say, I'm sorry. And it's like, no, she was saying, she's not going to say anything. She's going to maintain her innocence and say she had nothing.

No. Okay, you're right. So to further my point, no matter what they say, I mean, doesn't really matter.

“No, but the question is, do you think she'll say anything?”

I don't think she'll say anything. I don't know. But anyway, it'll be interesting to see what the victim will say two months. Yeah, so we'll follow that. We'll obviously do another episode once that comes out.

Because I really want to talk about the victim impact statements. What they say, what the sentence is and whether she decides to speak on her own behalf or not. So we will follow that. Anyway, thank you guys for listening to the Corey Richens trial. Again, if you have any comments or you have any further.

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