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I have a couple questions for you. - Hmm, right now, 'cause I just need to know right away,

“are you more leaning towards Doreat or Erica and Kai?”

- Erica and Kyle. Okay. (laughs) - Yeah, I was like, I just took over acting with Doreat is getting annoying to be quite honest with you, and to put out the narrative that Kyle's trying

to basically destroy her life and turn everybody against her.

By saying two things, like she's been a lot of money, like, no, that's not what Hatt, that's not what's going on. - I know, between that and you know, Doreat like praising both, but then Rachel, I don't think was helpful this episode whatsoever.

- I'm gonna need Rachel to do more. She said a lot of things like kind of under her breath, but she didn't really see anything out loud. - And Ed and three times, she's with her kid. She's gotta ask about their dad, like, stop.

- I know, they're probably over it. - 'Cause the first of all, it makes the kid uncomfortable. - Yeah. - And then you put a camera in front of their face and start, so how's it going with your dad?

- Yeah. - It's everything, every damn scene.

- I know at first it was like, wow,

okay, they're really opening up, they're sharing it. But now it's like, I feel like it's too much, we got it. At this point, it feels like Rachel's annoyed at her ex. - Does it make it sound kind of like she's, because they go, oh, I like 'em.

She's like, oh, okay. Is it, to me, it's starting to sound like, I'm waiting for you to say something bad. - Yeah, it's like, I'm pretty neat. - And they're not teenagers, they're not,

and they're 20s, like, they're young kids. - Yeah. - And I don't know, it's even when she goes, when Erica was crying, and she goes, "Can I just say something?"

She looks beautiful. - She said that before. Somebody else got mad and she goes, "Can I just point out? "She looks hot."

- She looks like she's lying. - She's lying, you want to use that joke. - I know. But the episode starts off, we're back at the Italian dinner from hell.

Kyle is annoyed that Doreet forgives both,

Do you think Kyle is valid?

This way, or she's still trying to bring others into this fight? - Well, Kyle has tried to bring others in the fight, which is something I don't really like. Like, if you're speaking, speak for yourself,

don't speak for the whole group. It annoys me, it's happened to me before.

“The question was, what do I think she's valid?”

- Yeah, valid for the way she feels about those. - Oh, yeah, I mean, both can say whatever she wants and Doreet's fine with it, but if Kyle says the same thing, she makes it sound like Kyle's going around,

like talking mad shit about her. - When she says the same thing, everybody else is saying. - Yeah, they make it different words, but it's pretty much the same thing. - Why do you think that Doreet forgives both so easily,

but has such a hard time with Kyle, like it's like she wants her to suffer? - I mean, actually, I don't think that Doreet likes Kyle. - You know, Lala said it on the valley, when you have decades of friendship,

there's going to be good shit in bad shit. Let's focus on the good shit. - Yeah, but I mean, I think Kyle has been there for her for a lot, and, you know, so is Erica. - Yeah, well, Doreet doesn't think she's getting

the grace that she should be getting, but Kyle reminds her she's definitely does. Like when she kept everyone waiting on the tarmac.

“Okay, let's not act like this is a new thing.”

Let's not act like Doreet is late because she's going through so much. And by the way, why is Doreet going through any more than what Rachel's going through, what Kyle's going through?

- She's not. - You stop it, but why is she the only one that's allowed to need that constant validation from the rest of the group that we hear you, we see you, you know, but also going through a hard time,

then don't go somewhere. - Yeah, I'm going up an hour and a half late to a private jet. - Oh, I would leave her. - I would leave her as it is so fucking rude.

And this isn't the first time she's done it. She's late to almost everything. And no, Doreet, you did not come on the plane and apologize. - And I mean, even if Doreet said sorry, she wasn't meaning it.

- I mean, this dates back to the very beginning

when she started being late, always late, as you know.

- Yeah, my first fight with her. - Yeah. - And where I left. - Yeah, well, she didn't show up right. - Yeah, so what was her problem then?

What was she going through then? That was so brutal. - I don't know. I feel like Doreet is overly clocked in, like just calm down just a little bit.

- Also, have you noticed that like no matter what's going on, Doreet isn't going to shed a tear? - She's not like a cryer, maybe, I don't know. - I know, but like no matter how hard it gets, her face just looks like, yeah, bring it, bring the next thing.

- What? - She's just not caring. Like she walks away, like, don't care. Who cares? You're on an ensemble cast when you walk away

and you isolate yourself from everybody. It's hard. - Not a good plan. - You should care. - What about when Doreet goes down the line

apologizing to everyone in the group for being late and she skips over Amanda? - She still doesn't like Amanda, right? Like they're still not. - They never can't.

- I mean, it wasn't tension on Amanda. It was very intentional. There's no doubt about that. And then she's like, and then she's like, how could you skip over Amanda?

She's sitting right in front of your face. I mean, Kyle's not backing down? - Yeah. - One bit. - She's not backing down, but also certain,

what are you doing here? - Sutton's having a redemption year. So she's not really getting that involved in stuff. - Like nothing offense, her.

“She said, I was lean forward to maybe that's why”

she can see Amanda. She goes on and on about all of these different. It's just like, come on, Sutton. - Why didn't Rachel say Doreet skipping over Amanda was mean girl behavior?

- Because she is team Doreet. - That shocks me, does that shock you? - Well, I think they bond over, you know, shopping and those kind of conversations and they're both getting over.

- I actually actually, I take the bear. I'm more surprised that Bose and Doreet are close.

- Well, 'cause we never see it.

- What do you mean? - Like they barely ever show us them together being so close or having these fun times. - Yeah, but also like when they are together,

they are like, it's like a buddy system. And I'm just like Bose being the type of person that she is, I just wouldn't think that. Like she's such a business woman and I don't know.

- I mean, I guess I hit it off right away

when Bose came on the show 'cause we're putting them together at the beginning.

“But I think that watching this beginning part”

where Doreet claims that she and Sutton, Sutton backs her up by saying that she's lean forward or whatever, like in this moment, I wish Amanda would manifest her back bone. - Yeah, well, she just,

I don't think it's her personality. I just think that she doesn't. - She just, that's just not who she is. - She's there for the ride. - I truly think this is who Amanda is.

I don't think she's doing anything to try to alter her personality for the show. I just think she lives in a different land than us. - It's not obviously it's working because there are manifestation classes

or making her extremely wealthy.

And she just lives in that, she lives in the cloud. - Yeah, she lives in a complete boat. - I wanna live in the cloud. - I wanna be in a cloud, even if it's for a day. - Yeah, just live in the cloud.

We're nothing bothers you. And I mean, even her Instagram post, like she's so unbothered. - I know, she's like making fun of her ceremonial grade, green tea, and then she's talking about how fan came out

to her and said, she's like, I'm not gonna say who, but it's so, and so, it's so mean. - Who do you think? - She's right. - Drey.

- Yeah. - I don't know, everybody's kinda had comments.

“I think Kyle's the only one that's been by her side”

this whole season. - Yeah. Well then, Kyle thinks Drey sees the worst in her because she did not jump on the I hate PK bandwagon. Do you agree with that's why,

Kyle, like that's why it happened or what do you think was the breaking point? - I don't know. I really don't know. I think that definitely Dorita's trying to paint PK out

to be this horrible person, and she wants that narrative out there. And you've seen Kyle where she's like, hmm, yeah, I don't see it like that. - By the way, did you see that PK has a new girlfriend?

- Yeah, I saw that pretty. - She's pretty, mm-hmm. - I mean, allegedly, we have no idea. This could, it's not like they should have picked up them together, and yeah.

- But do you think that Dorita and Kyle are fighting because of PK?

“- I think that they've been fighting long before PK.”

I mean, even back to, I mean, even when I was on the show,

there was always, even though they were friends,

they always kind of picked at each other. - Mm-hmm. - It was like one of those friendships that it, I don't know, it just, I think Kyle said it best this episode, like, friendship shouldn't be this hard.

- Mm, they shouldn't. - Like, it's exhausting. - We've seen a revved up Dorita for the past couple years. Prior to that, she wasn't. There was even talk of her, like maybe not being asked

back on the show and different things. So the Dorita and I'm seeing now, I just, I don't know, I feel like she's acting a little bit. - I feel like she's doing everything she can, but could you see her sick poking out

when she was locking away from the group? - No, what a fucking out of what? - Foking out of her hand, she was going on a walk to smoke a cigarette and then Kathy came up to follow her. - I'm shocked that she smokes.

- I know. - She just doesn't seem like the type of person that would smoke cigarettes. - Smiles like one. - Does she?

(laughs) - I don't know, really anybody that smokes anymore. - Well, the KFUG smokes. I know exactly what those American spirits smell like. - Yeah, but he, that's his generation, too.

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Like, I've seen Erica have Doree's back on so many different occasions throughout the years, and also through watching. - Well, I mean, I don't know why Erica's are crying. That's only thing, like, Erica's not a big cryer.

“Like, why did she suddenly start crying about this?”

- Well, I think, you know, first Erica goes off

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Then Erica reminds that they're all going through a tough time and Erica went through two brutal seasons where she got it all from all sides and she had to take it. And then, for Doree to act like she had no idea, Erica is going through a tough time.

- I mean, just because somebody isn't complaining about what they're going through, doesn't mean they're not going through a tough time now. The stuff that Erica's going through is very, it's public.

Every time there's a new lawsuit or anything, I mean, that's scary shit.

- Yeah.

- And spending a lot of money in the court.

And if you were such a good friend to Erica Doree, you would have reached out to her and said, are you doing okay? - Yeah, well, I did love seeing an activated Erica. It just makes my world so much better

watching the show when Erica's all revved up. - Oh yeah, well, Doree calls Erica, but Erica reminds Doree that she's the one that brought that word into that group. - Does it word bother you?

- No. - Doesn't bother me either. - But if it, Amanda's like, we don't use that word, Oklahoma. We don't really use that.

And then Doree's like, oh, I'm out. I'm getting out of here. And she just walks away. But she has some things to say.

“Didn't she like call the girls some names and stuff?”

- Yeah, I mean, she's pretty much like, you're all bitches and this. - You know, when I was surprised that as a Bose didn't walk after Doree. Was it Kathy Hilton that actually walked after Doree?

- Yeah, because Bose at this point, even though she's saying she's not mad at Bose, Bose is doing the same thing Kyle is doing. - Yeah, but she's not mad at her. I was shocked that, um, the Kathy.

She didn't Kathy didn't say one word at the table. The entire time, all of this was going on. Kathy did not say a word. And I was just shocked being Kyle's sister that she was gonna go run after her.

- I think they thought that she was gonna be the only one that could get her back. - Why? Because Kathy's just kind of like the head mom, or whatever they call it.

- But Adoree is working overtime trying to paint a picture that Kyle has turned everybody against her, and it's just something I don't believe. And let's talk about the editing too. - Okay, let's talk about the editing.

- Let's talk about the editing. It's a lot of flashbacks of the same thing of Kyle saying she's unhinged or she's something, and what was the word she is? - Erratic.

- Erratic, she's erratic, and she's spending money. Those are the two things she said. That's it, when you're going and spending thousands of dollars in your houses and foreclosure, I would say it too.

- What about when Kyle's like, "Dude, "I don't care if you used your advanced on a Kelli bag." Yeah. - A Kelli bag, and she's like, "Seems like you do." I'm like, "Because it's not part of what she's trying to

"put out there. "She wants to put out there that Kyle has trying to turn "everybody against her." And by the way, who's turned against her? - Erratic.

The only one that's turned against her is Erica, but she was being a bitch to Erica. Like she said, I don't even trust any of you, but bows and blah, blah, blah, and like, then they go through flashbacks of all the time.

The Erica's had dreams back, and it's just,

“I think ultimately, why Erica got emotional”

is because I think throughout these, let's say it's 10 years, I don't know how long, but throughout these 10 years,

like her and Doreed haven't had an issue since that first season.

- Are they that close? I mean, they were, did it bother her? They were close for a while. - Do you know who's not worried about Doreed? It's Jennifer Tilley.

- She's worried about her seat. - She's just worried about being squashed into two cars. Who's this that told her to be quiet? - I don't know, it's just like, don't worry. - But okay, Jennifer Tilley, Kathy Houghton,

and Rachel, kind of feel like they're on the same - Right, they're all. - Yeah. They're all doing the, they're doing the least.

They're doing the least. They're giving us a little funny thing. - I love Rachel, don't get me wrong.

“I think she's great, I think she's a great addition.”

I just, I just would like to see a little bit more from her. You can't like say things under your breath,

but it's her first season.

So, but it's really not. I mean, how many seasons was she on her last show? - Yeah, have it housewives at a whole different monster? It really is. - Yeah.

- But I don't know. I still thought that-- - But it was Natalie there. - Yeah, Natalie was there, not saying a word. - Okay, and we know Natalie did not go to the reunion, right?

- Correct. - Bye, Natalie. - I mean, I feel like this-- - Goodbye, Natalie. - Goodbye, Natalie, even we didn't,

even though we didn't see you on this show tonight, you were here. Like, she must be like, "Fuck this shit, I'm too rich."

- Yeah.

“But it's, I mean, I, just the back and forth”

between Dorit and Erica,

you could tell there's gonna be emotions involved afterwards.

- Mm-hmm. - Because like, I mean, the word doesn't bother me in general, but if you called me in a yelling way, it would hurt my feelings. - Oh, for sure.

I mean, nobody wants if we called it, see you next Tuesday, but you know what? I've said it a few times, not to you, but I've said it a few times. If you don't wanna be called,

don't act like one, how about that? - Yeah, but why is Dorit think that that was some original thing she was gonna say? When clearly we know that Erica's the one that brought it to the river.

- Because Dorit said it before. - Oh, and it went with Camille? - Yes, and it went, it was like a huge hit.

So she decided she's gonna say it again.

- But to Erica, are you on glue? Like, you don't realize that Erica is gonna come back and have Erica speaks so eloquently when it comes to everything that she's saying. Like, yeah, she knows what she's saying.

She's not being mean. - Didn't Erica have a necklace in the very beginning,

“and it said, yeah, she did, she did, I just remember that.”

But, you know, Erica, they pretty much didn't say, you know, they give each other back and forth. They say, you know, then you don't want to be treated a certain way, then stop treating us that way. And then they broke the fourth wall, I thought.

And she said, you know, everybody at this table does agree, it's rude. You're rude, and that is, that's just her showing her lack of care of. - Wait, how's that breaking the fourth wall?

- Because she's saying they're mad about the being late and they're mad about the making them wait on them all the time. - Like, 'cause the fight started when Erica goes, where were you, why were we waiting for you at dinner?

- And she was always talking to my kids.

She was, oh great, we all have kids. Well, we're talking to them about. - Because it's a lie. She was running late, yeah. - It's just, I can't deal with late people.

I can't. - No. - Especially in housewife world, if you have a cast member that's constantly late, I thought she was a daughter-in-law.

- And titled men, most people that are late are have entitled personalities. The world owes them everything. - Yeah. - Don't care about anybody else's feelings.

They don't care about any, you know, like work. This is your boss, your boss is telling you to be there at 11 o'clock and you just go, I'm gonna show up at one. - Yeah, I'll just keep everybody waiting.

- Not make a big deal about how embarrassed I am for being late and trying to make up for it. Just, I'll just keep doing it. - It's not normal. - I'll just keep doing it every chance I get.

- I can't stand it. I like to be 10 minutes early. - Yeah, I mean, especially for jet time. - Yeah. - And every dinner, they're having to eat late there

and they're just waiting under reach to come down. - I wouldn't, I would lose it on her. Her and I would not be friends. - Yeah. - And it's just getting worse.

You're just starting to see her become more and more entitled because I can-- - And you know what? I've met her eight several times. - Oh, he's been so sweet and nice to me. - Yeah. - Oh, he's so sweet.

- Well, I think it's getting true.

“I think the last couple seasons got to her”

where people liked to see that version of her. - Yeah, because since Lisa Ranna has left the show, there really isn't anybody like that on the show and Jerry just slowly kind of moving into that. - Yeah.

- And I don't know, but there was still a different way that Lisa Ranna did it. Lisa Ranna didn't seem angry. - Yeah, I mean, but she's the only one. I'm not saying they're exactly alike,

but the she was the only one that would call people out and say things and you know, she would have no problem calling somebody. Like she would throw whatever it is. Nobody else on that cast since Brandy left would do that.

- Because what? - But Ranna is a natural and Jerry is a tri-hard. - Yeah, I mean, that's like that. - Well, I don't know that it's Jerry's, it's not, it doesn't come natural to her.

It's not her personality. So that's when I say like she's trying to rev it up for the show. She's doing things that are out of her comfort zone. - Yeah. - And then she's like, you know, if what Kyle wanted

was for the entire group to push me out.

Bravo. - Bravo. - Nobody pushed her out. - Nobody. - She decided to leave on her own

and only because her and Erica got into it. Only because she wanted to go have a sig. I think she just wanted a moment. - Yeah. But I didn't think the moment was good.

I think it looked, I thought, I mean, you guys are always

gonna call me bias, but like I thought what Erica said was much more heartfelt, which was much more meaningful. Erica saying you never, you know, it's not like you check on me and I'm having a really hard time and her going, well, how would I know that you're having a hard time?

- See, that's it. And let me just tell you something. I've had this issue on the show. There's people that are chronic victims, just chronic. And then there's people that are going through a lot,

never say a word about it, never say a word. And then the people that are chronically complaining

“in their life is falling apart constantly”

and they can't get it together, poor poor them. But the person that's holding their shit together

and then shit is happening to them,

they're a fucking asshole if they say something. - Yeah, what, didn't they say something like, this isn't like a pain off, who's been in worse pain? - Right, right, this is a linear. This is like we are all going through a shit right now,

so let's stop in the night out. - Erica's like a badass, she's going through shit and she's not even bringing it up on camera. She's just like, you know what? I'm dealing with it privately.

Should she bring it up on camera? It's not her personality. - It's not her personality, bitch and complain. She just pushes through. - I think people can't do that.

- Doree can't do that.

“- No, I think it's not her personality, plus like,”

it is all over the news, so if you care to know what's going on with Erica, you probably have seen it on the internet. - This has been going on for years, this legal stuff.

- Yeah, and it just keeps getting worse. - And it you've been in a legal situation where you're paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to an attorney and spending time in court on all that, you don't fucking know what it feels like.

Did you feel like you're gonna lose everything? - Doree's like, I didn't even know about the guy and I'm thinking, when was the last time you stopped talking about yourself and actually checked on your friend? - Yeah, what guy, the guy that she was dating?

- It was up, I was on an episode, earlier episode, they talked about it.

I know she's saying that Erica never opened up to her.

- Erica, it's not Erica's personality to open up. Just because somebody has an open up to you and tell you how horrible things are, like Doree would, doesn't mean they're not going through shit. - Yeah, it's just,

but that's how reality shows go, the one that just cries. - Oh, pork meat is the perfect time. - But I thought they were going to convince her to come back to the table, but they didn't. - We don't get to see her until the disco party. - Hold on. - What was the food in front of Kyle that she's like, what in the Flintstones?

- It was a big ribby. - It was like a ton of something. - It was a bone. It was a bone. - It was a bone. - It was a snake. - Something that Kyle ordered herself, like why was she so grossed out? - I think it was just steak. It was just a, like a tea bone or a tomahawk or something. She probably just got sick like, pick up my plate. - Yeah, like a sick of looking at this.

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- Then yeah, Doreeds back up there. You can see the little sig she tells Kathy all what she's thinking about. And then they decide they're coming back from Italy. Bose and Rachel go to Doreeds books cover shoot. But before those two arrive, Doreeds already got, sorry, sorry to say it.

She's already coming unhinged. She's coming unhinged at this photo shoot.

“And I love when she's describing to us why it's so important to have cover photo art of a book”

before you've even finished writing it. Never heard that. - I'm not in the book writing space, but I mean, I think it sounds logical. Like people get a book cover out there to get like the buzz going.

I don't know if it's a thing, it sounds logical. I don't know. - Yeah, but of course she invited Bose and Rachel to that shoot. - Do you mean that Bose and Rachel haven't been turned against her by Kyle? - I know.

It's like, I don't understand this. If you were out there, can I tell you something? There's nothing more than Erx My Ask. Is when you have somebody saying the same thing. It's called sound bites.

When Doritos has over and over, Kyle's trying to turn everybody against me,

but you never really see it.

And then you go and tell your friends, or you talk about it at work. You're like, wow, that Kyle's really trying to turn people. Be smarter than that. - Yeah.

- Be smarter than that. See through that.

“- And the only thing that Kyle's doing is the same thing.”

And she's saying the same thing to Doritos face, that she's saying behind like to anybody else. She's doing the same thing. And all of them are doing the same exact thing. They're concerned for their friend.

I don't think it's about being mean girls. I wouldn't be concerned for it all anymore. Spend all your fucking money, I don't care. Spend all your money. I ain't waiting for you.

- Alienate every person that you want and screw your friends that have been there forever.

Because for her, like it's one thing, Kyle and Dorito fighting.

We've been seeing that for a couple of years now. But for to turn to Erica, that shows how little shit's Dorit cares about Erica at this point. And I think that's why to Erica.

- She's trying to make a TV right now. - Yeah. - I've been guilty of that, too. Like, we all have been guilty. If you've been a really TV long enough,

“and I think it's going to bite her in the ass.”

- Yeah. - Did we get looks for the reunion yet? Beverly Hills? - I don't think so. - We haven't gotten them, right?

Do we know who said we don't know CD and charter anything? - Do we? - Oh, actually we do know the CD and charter. That's right. We didn't see the CD and charter, but we didn't see, like, looks.

- The reunion looks. Do they just have one more episode? - Yeah, I think that's one more episode, and then the reunion. - Yeah, I think, because this is what's 16.

So I probably have 17. - 'Cause I kind of thought it was this fight. This episode was over. And then all of a sudden, I'm like, no, now we have the book cover, and then we have Rachel's party.

- It was really quick that they threw the book cover. Like, that's showing that, you know, editors, like, we have a great editor on our show that I talk to, and she's like, you got to understand. We got hours of footage, and we got to condense it into, like,

43 minutes. - Yeah. - Each person usually gets around the same, some don't, some weren't, whatever. But they threw in a book cover and a disco party

in the last three minutes at the show.

- No, yeah, I was so, I mean, I first heard that

it was over, and then I'm like, hold on. - I'm assuming that we're going, it's going to be to be continued for the disco party. - Yeah. - Because it ends with Doreed,

and Beau's good, Rachel's disco party. Together, of course, Doreed doesn't want to deal with Kyle and her growing group of minions. - Did they all hurt? - Did they all hurt?

- She throws out there. Those are the words she's throwing out there to try to get the public to believe that viewers believe that shit is going on. Like, who are her minions?

- Who are Kyle's minions? - Like, I want to be like, I wanna tell you, the Erica's from me. - Erica, no one's, no. - Erica, no one's minion.

Amanda doesn't speak. Sutton isn't speaking,

and there's if anything was on Doreed's side,

saying she didn't care or notice if she was late or if she should be worried about it. - Do you think that Amanda will be back for another season? - Yeah.

- Yeah.

“I think that she started to win people over”

because the more that Doreed has become so vapid, it shows why she's taking us to see back. Like, what is she going to do fight with Doreed and call her? - No.

- No. - That's not her personality type. But when the girls go to the cover photo shoot, it's like Doreed wants a fan club there for her all of the time.

When was the last time you had a photo shoot and you invited a friend to come watch you do it? - The question, the real question is, this was the last time I had a photo shoot. (laughing)

I don't like doing photo shoots. Yeah, but could you imagine inviting your two friends over to watch you? I mean, that's probably hours long. - Wait a minute,

the reunion starts on April 23rd. How's that possible? - 'Cause there's two more episodes. I got this month, I feel like this month's already over. I just started.

- I know. - So we don't have one more episode. It's two more episodes. - Two more episodes, yeah. - Oh, okay.

- I know. And then April 16th is the finale. - Awesome. Which my guess is the finale. If the finale is the book party

that half the girls don't show up, too. Do you think it's the next week's episode? - Yeah, but I think that's the next week's episode. But Kyle doesn't speak to Dorea at all at the disco party so far.

- Well, we only saw one minute of it. - Yeah, we saw 45 seconds of it. - Right. So we'll see what happens. - But she does say on their way there.

She's like, you know, it's not like I'm thinking, "Oh, I'm gonna go and make peace with Dorea." Everything's gonna be good. I, you know, realistic. And this is, I'm just gonna go and, you know,

be there for Rachel. - Are you happy with the amount of Italy that we saw? - We saw none of Italy. - Right, that's what I was thinking. I'm like, "We didn't really get to see you."

Because I like Beverly Hills. Not for the fighting. I like the lifestyle. I wanna see the cars. I wanna see the outfits.

I wanna see the trips. I felt like Italy other than seeing the house. What restaurants?

“- Yeah, we saw the only thing that we saw”

when they went on that bike ride. And then they went to the winery. But that was such a small scene. I don't want to watch anybody go shopping.

- I don't care what country they're in. I don't want to see anyone shopping. And also, they're not shopping and stores that don't exist in the United States. They're going to air Mays.

They're going to, you know, like it's. - I want to see, I just want to see places in Italy. - Well, do some activities. Do some things.

But I think that it's impossible because Dread is always so late

to everything. And then not only that is, what are they going to film them doing? They're always having to wait for her to eat their next meal. - We'll do it without her.

I mean, there's got to be a time when you're like, "I am waiting for you anymore." I'm surprised at this point production didn't step in. - I got to believe is we had the same production company. And I know what it's like on our show.

I know that the talkings that happen on our show, they have to be telling her.

“Because being late is the worst thing for production”

and the crew. - It's just really happening. - They have other scenes to film. - They have other scenes to film. There's set up, like, just be on time.

- Yeah. I think it just shows that Dread feels like she's just too good for everybody now. Like that sort of defense mechanism that she's picked up. - And titled.

- Yeah. That could be the name of her book. - It also can be like, there's not a whole lot of drama happening on the show and they're just using what they have. - Yeah, but this scene was pretty intense.

I mean, for Eric to cry. - If there was more drama going on the show,

this whole Kyle narrative would have never been shown.

- I know. - Never. - Because it's not that big of a deal. It's being made into a big deal. But there's nothing else.

- All right, guys. Something really strange has happened. We lost Teddy. We have a feeling that Dread hacked her computer and wanted her to shut up.

So we lost Teddy. Don't know where she is. So thank you for tuning in to another episode of Two Teas and a Pot and we'll see you real soon. - I'm Laurie Siegel and this is Mostly Human.

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