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So excited for this. It's been a long time, totally missed you. Hey, today we are doing something totally different, totally new to us. We are going to welcome a brand new house husband who is about to enter the Bravo Universe with a new franchise.

But he's not new to reality TV, did you know that? I just found that out.

I mean, I'm so excited for this interview because, you know, Teddy would always watch the

Bachelor in the Bachelor Red and the Paradise, and I could never keep up with it. And now I get to ask all the cool questions about that, so I'm excited. Well, let's welcome a Jared Highborne who is married to the real housewives of Rhode Island cast member, Ashley Lokonetti. Jared and Ashley, oh, I a Canadian, okay.

Yeah, but it's a tough one. I almost feel like it's it's quarter to fix it on air. Like yeah, because we're introducing her to the Bravo audience. So it's funny to be like, oh, so her name, so Ashley, I can Eddie. But when we went to, so our on our honeymoon, we went to Italy and over there,

it's yocanetti, which is fun for you. What? Yeah, because when we were in checked into the hotel, they were like, first of all, they called me mystery yocanetti, and I was like, yeah, I'll just accept my faith. It's fine.

And so it's the most embarrassing thing, especially for me. The guy. And now, but it's just like I've accepted my, my place in this world. And then, and would I've met, I've had the privilege to meet Teddy a couple of times, and she's, she's, she's wonderful.

So yeah, it's a pleasure being here, boys. Thanks, Ed's for having me. Jared and I actually met on Bachelor in Paradise in 2015. And they have two kids together. Also, they own a business together.

Audrey's coffee house and lounge in Rhode Island. I can't wait to get into that. That's awesome. Jared, welcome to the Ed's. Thank you, Ed's for having me.

I appreciate it.

Oh, we can't wait to get, you know, give you some tips and tricks to know that. Even though you come from reality TV, I think a Bravo reality housewife TV is a little bit different than all of them, right, Ed when a little different, although I think, you know, I think one of the great things about one of the great thing, I think one of the things you got to have for reality TV is you got to be quick, you got to be woody, and it sounds

“like Jared, if you were on the Paradise or the Bachelor sounds like something you need to have.”

So I think you'll do very, very well. Yeah, let's get into that. Yeah, it was interesting, like filming for the first time with Bravo, obviously Ashley's much more integrated now being a housewife, but like, yeah, you're right. It's we understand that, you know, we're going to get three seconds of airtime at certain times.

So it's like just that one line, you know, trying to get that out there. So first off, Jared, I understand you're from Rhode Island, your Rhode Island guy. Yeah, awesome. So you were born there and raised there? Yeah, so I was born in Warwick, Rhode Island, and then now we live in the Southern part of Rhode Island.

But I've always loved being here.

What's it like growing up there? It's great. So my parents are still here. It's very small. Everybody knows everybody. You're probably related to a majority of people, which is difficult for dating.

It's also difficult for dating because, again, everybody knows everybody. So you go on a date with somebody and then, you know, she'll be like, oh, yeah, I know Sarah, who, you know, you guys had a thing. I'm like, oh, yeah, oh, God. But it happens continuously, not just with me, but for numerous people and my friends going through it as well. But it's wonderful. Like, I love the seasons around here. It is very communal-based

because it is such a small town. We have, you know, a little over a million people for a population. So it feels very neighborly, like, and blue collar, which I also very much love. There's a lot of wonderful things about Rhode Island, and it's my home. That's awesome. That's fantastic. That's awesome.

“Would you grow up doing? Like, but were you in a sports?”

Yeah. So I played football in baseball in high school. I was never very good. So now we have two

boys and Dawson is going to school as well. He's in pre-K. He's four years old. So just thinking about his future in high school, I want to hold him back as long as possible because I want him to be as old as possible, but when he graduates, because I graduated, I went into college when I was 17. And so I was one of the, like, the way my birthday fell. I was super young. And I was felt like that hindered me within sports because I played football in baseball. I got caught for the basketball

team. And I was just felt like I was a little bit slower, a little bit smaller than everybody else. And honestly, just a little bit more immature. And once I went to, I went to community college here. And that's when I started kind of becoming more individual. And just, you know, getting older, obviously, getting more comfortable with my own skin and getting more confidence. But, um, but it was great. So I played sports, you know, huge boss and sports fan. We're about

ourself to Boston. So Patriots, Celtics, Red Sox, Bruins, grew up loving. And, um, you know, my, you know, my parents, my mom had all different types of jobs growing up. But I mean, her main job because once we were born, I have one older sibling. She was a stay-o-home mom. And then my dad was a correctional officer at the local correctional facility for almost 40 years before he retired. Wow. Wow. It's a long time. Now I know to be in that one very long time.

To be in that profession. By the way, I'm with you on the, uh, that one year makes such a difference

“for kids. Because me too, I was one of the youngest. And you, you need that confidence, right?”

And just that one year difference just means the world. I mean, you get so much faster. You get, you get more confidence. But, you know, it's just like I, uh, when I was 19, I started feeling like with anything of life. Once you feel like you are, you mentally, you actually think you can do something. You immediately already become better at it. And so it's just a mindset thing. Well, let me, let me share my experience with that because I have the opposite experience. Uh,

I was also, uh, young and tiny, you know, just sticking bones kind of athlete. And when I signed up for pop Warner, my family signed me up late. So all there was room four was the big kids. And I got hammered the first two, three seasons. But what turned out to be positive about it is that it made me want to work harder to beat them up or to be faster than them or to outrun them or

out perform them. And even today in life, I have this, this tendency to always want to hang out

with older people because there's always something I can learn from them and compete with them and want to be better than them. It just kind of drives me to work harder. But, you know, no, that is a good point because I see it even in my two sons. So I have two boys, oldest is four. Youngest is about a year and a half, almost two. And I can see it with him too,

do it in a malicious way, but like sometimes they'll just kind of like grab him. And it's like bro, if you grab him and drag him down, like you can hurt him. I know you do that with me and you can't hurt me. But so I can see that kind of growing up and my youngest hate in becoming, uh, be able to take more, like, yeah, not take a punch. But you know what I mean? Be a little bit more rough around the edges. Just just because he had, he had to deal with his older brother, just constant

late. Just, you know, bullying him, not in a need way, but just the way it is. That's the way boys aren't. Yeah, absolutely. Hey, so let's get into the Bachelor whole series. How are you cast for that? How do they find you? So my, one of my best friends, my name is Crystal. She signed me up for the show. She's a reality TV junkie. And I got super lucky. We were at a bar one time in Cranston, Rhode Island. And, uh, she told me that I should sign up for the Bachelor,

“like, yeah, I'll sign up for the Bachelor. That's how this works. And so she signed me up, uh, unbeknownst”

to me. I'm very indebted to her when we were at the bar. And she just sent, because obviously I found this out on hindsight, but she sent a photo of me and like wrote a little blurb about me. And, what did it say? I, as she said, the one thing she, I remember she told me is that, uh, I love super man. I'm a big super man guy. Cool. I can't believe. I don't know what, but she remembered, uh, because that kind of, they incorporated that on that one, when you get out of the

limo on the, on the Bachelor, the Bachelor, right? You could do something gimmicky if you want for the, for the lead. And I kind of tied into my love for superheroes kind of tied into that. But then what happened was, so she signed me up, didn't know. And then I was working at a restaurant

in Providence called The Providence. It's always a bar at the time, and it was during Columbus

Day weekend, and Columbus Day weekend is huge in Providence. They shut down the street because you huge parade. So that was going on. It was super busy. And then I could feel my phone vibrating in my pocket. And I looked at it as an LA area code. So I didn't answer because I was like, it's probably spam. And then like 10 minutes later, I looked at my phone. And I saw that there was a voice mail from that. And then I saw text messages from my friend Crystal, like 20 of them,

saying the Bachelor just, the Bachelor casting just called me. They're looking for you. I signed you up a long time ago, just called them back immediately. So then I checked the voice mail. And it was, like, hi, this is ABC's Bachelor read. The cast in department. We're looking for Jared. Your friend Crystal signed you up. We're just curious if you're still single. This is something you'd want to do. So I called the back. And of course, yeah, I would love to. I just said yes. And then, you know,

I hung out with Crystal later. And then got the low down. She was like, I just submitted you. Like,

“you need to say yes. You just need to, whenever they tell you to do, just do it. I was like,”

okay. And so then just went through this long process of like them asking me questions. And I had to fill out forms. And then I had to take psychological tests. And then I met with them in New York. And then they flew me out to LA. And then like two weeks before filming. They were like, okay, we want to send you a contract and we want to want you on the show. So you actually, will you actually single? Or did you have to dump someone and say, no, I'm going on the show.

I was single. Merak, a very, very lucky. I mean, not lucky. Like, you know, well, that would have been very awkward decision to make, right? I mean, what would you have done? Eddie, would you have been like, sorry girl. I'm like, it's my, it's my one shot. It depends on Libya. If I loved her and she and I thought she was the one I would have to say no, obviously. But if she was kind of just, I don't know, friends with benefits, it'd be like,

see, yeah. I know, I was actually kind of going through a little, like, a little something, not a relationship, but when my friend Crystal signed me up, it was like this long, convoluted relationship I had with this girl who's wonderful, but it's just like, as you guys know, when relationships end, it's just like, it's hard on both parties and it's just draining.

And it, it never just is a clean break. It's always like prolonged. And then you guys see each other.

And emotions come back. And so it's kind of going through that, but towards the tail end

“of it, where it was becoming toxic for both of us. And she was like, you need to just go on”

this show. And I was like, yeah, that's what happens. And then she signed me up and then, you know, months later, when I have to talk this person a while. Yeah. Let me ask you this. Are you familiar with a show? I think it's on Netflix called Unreal. Yeah. I've, of course, everybody asked me about this. So that's my only experience in watching bachelor, bachelor, kind of shows, because I can't watch reality TV net even the housewives. But when I watched that show, Unreal, it blew my mind and

actually I was watching it with my wife. And I, we both looked at each other and were like, do you really trust your producers now? I know, it's, I have not seen it. I've seen, you know, clips of it, um, out of curiosity. Um, and the clips I've seen, I'm sure that it's much more practical when you're watching into the context of the show. But of course, the clips I've seen.

I'm like, I've never experienced this. Having said this, as you guys know, filming reality TV,

you know, there's different side, you only see the, um, well, you only see one side of the producer,

but like, they have a job to do. Yeah. They're trying to make a compelling reality TV show.

Yeah. And, you know, sometimes that's in your favor, sometimes it's not in your favor.

“So yeah. So what's it like, is it in there having, um, any women?”

So I was, oh, I was on the bachelor, right? I wasn't choosing. Oh, I was on the bachelor. It's tougher, right? Yeah. Your lover just gone at that point, right? When you're, when you're the one choosing, I would assume it's a lot easier. But I now, well, honestly, so I've had a lot of friends who would become the bachelor since. And, um, so I was on bachelor, and then I got super lucky. I had a wonderful bachelor in his Caitlin Bristo. And, um, I made it to fourth, and then she kicked my

ass to the curb, totally fine. And then I went on bachelor and paradise, and then that's where I met Ashley. And, um, but bachelor is so, in terms of choosing, like, my friends. Were you heartbroken at the time? Or was it just more of your ego? Was heartbroken when you got sort of, um, I was the heartbroken, but as, you know, it's, it's so elevated, like, everything is just, right? Being hurt to that show. I was wondering if, like, are people really heartbroken on this?

Yeah. Like, do you do emotions get that heavy that quick? Of course, they do, but then you leave, and then you're back. And the thing is, you're not distracted by anything. So when you get back to your normal life and you have things to do and you have bills to pay and you have, you know,

“you have to mold a lawn or wash the dishes or just go on with your day-to-day life. Like,”

you have more things to do when you're just on this show, because the biggest difference between filming, bachelor and filming housewives was that housewives is far more invasive. Like, they come to your house. They're here. They, you go, like, they come here. They film, they leave. With bachelor, like, they send you away. You're secluded. You're in this bubble. They take away your phone. There's no TV. There's no communications to the outside world unless you need it.

And so, it's, it's far different, um, because, like, you're just really in your own head. Every minute of every day. And so, that causes a lot of confusion and it causes a lot of, you know, emotions to, like, rapidly occur and thoughts. And so, both good and bad. Yeah, interesting. Yeah. So, since it's to it, it's got a lot to be doing. Oh, yeah. They absolutely. So, how long are you in that filming? I mean, I assume it's based on how long you last, but how long does it really take?

“So, I think from beginning to end on bachelor, bachelor read. It's, like, usually about two and a half”

months. If you're two, two and a half months from, if you, like, make it from beginning to end. Paradise is quick. Paradise was less than a month. Like, filming was, like, 20, six days, 20, seven days. So, are you actually on an island in, like, a paradise island? It is beautiful. It's important to fire to Mexico. Oh. So, it's in that area. Oh, it's the best. We go back all the time

because we go to Vendanta. And so, when it was the first time, it went 2015. So, when they fly you out,

to patch along paradise, they fly you to Puerto Vallarta. And then they put you in Vendanta, just beautiful resort. That's only like, 15 minutes from the airport. And it has only grown since 2015. But they put you in the air, to include you before they bring you to the actual resort, which is inside you lead to, like, 45 minutes south. And it's this beautiful beach from property. And it's just glorious. You know, like, Jesus, like, this is insane. What, like, how is this happening?

And we love Puerto Vallarta so much that we've gone back, like, we were actually just there probably about a month and a half ago with our friends Tanner and Jade, who also met on bachelor on paradise. They got married. And they have three kids. And then, actually, I have two kids. We got the kids together, which is really nice. And we went to Vendanta and had a nice few days and reminisced. And who's cool to bring the kids to, like, this is where Mom and Dad met. And this is,

you know, it was cool. It was fun. So, on that paradise when was Ashley the one choosing? So, it rotates, like, week one because what happens is they'll bring in. So, you have bachelor, bachelor, and then bachelor on paradise. So, bachelor, obviously, one guy, 25 girls, bachelor, at one girl, 25 guys. And then, they, there are some, which is wonderful if you get chosen, that they choose the guys that didn't get picked and the girls that didn't get picked and they

bring you to paradise. And then, you'll have row ceremonies at the end of each week. So, like, first week, they'll have eight guys and then nine girls. And then you'll go on dates. You'll spend a few days together. And then, at the end of that week, you have a row ceremony. The guys each have a rows and they'll hand a girl rows. And there's eight guys and nine girls, so one girl gets in home. And then, as soon as the row ceremony switches, the next ends, excuse me, and the next week begins,

the power switches. And now the girls will have roses. And they'll send new guys in to disrupt, try to break up relationships, you know, to all that jazz. So, it's a great concept. It is

extremely, it's, obviously, an anxiety-inducing. But also, just like this incredible thing to be

a part of. How did it, how did it become love with Ashley? Or was it love at first sight?

love at first sight, which is so sweet. And I'm, like, actually, it's just the complete opposite of what I have any girl I've ever did. Like, oh, it's, it's, so, on, when she was on her season, because we have to, like, go back into that mindset, she was known as the crying version. So, and that was her storyline. She is incredibly emotional. She cries all the time. And, and it's not a bad thing, but it's just what she does. And she was very outspoken of our

virginity at 26 years old. And so, you know, going into paradise and being, and then just, I literally, it was about a month afterwards, between the time that I left Pachelorette and went

“to paradise. So, I'm like, I'm going to date around. It's going to be fun. And that's what the”

producers are selling me on to. They're like, listen, Pachelorette is much more chill. You can just go, you can date around. Like, there's not, it's okay. You don't have to get engaged at the end. Like, maybe you want to, but you don't have to. It's very low key here. Where Pachelorette is like, you have, you're like, your whole thing is, you're going to get engaged at the end. Yeah. And so, of course, I go there. And then within five minutes, Ashley, who, like, knows what she wants and goes

after what she wants. And she was like, he's mine. Nobody look at him. And it was like, oh, boy. So, what happened was we dated on paradise. It didn't work out. We left separate ways. We actually went back the next year on paradise. Same thing. It was like, there's very tumultuous relationship. Because what happened was, Ashley and I definitely have a kinetic energy between the two of us.

And like, she is so wonderful. And we really did become friends. Like, I always felt super comfortable

“with her. And we developed this friendship for about two and a half years. That just grew and”

grew and grew and grew. And then we, you know, I mean, tell us all this time. She started dating someone else and I was like, I'm a little bit more on. And then I was like, I either do something about this or I don't. And so, I got very lucky that we ended up giving it a try and it worked out. So, in the two year span that you were dating with she live in in Rhode Island or was she living in an alley somewhere? No. So, I was in Rhode Island. She was in LA. Yes,

Susan was Hollywood. So, how about that work? I would be, I mean, because it was our first exposure to reality TV. And so we had there be so many times I had to go into LA for either bachelor stuff or just opportunities that would present themselves. She lived at the time her sister. I think lived in Jersey. I can't remember the time frame exactly. But, and her best friends all lived in New York,

she was in New York constantly and we would always have events or things to do. So, we would see

each other probably like and we would still text, you know, all the time. But probably see each other once every like, you know. So, what made you realize she was the one? Well, I think, you know, just like when Harry Metzallie, I think when you're around someone and you become so comfortable with them and they become so ingrained in your life. And I became so ingrained in her life. And I think the pressure of being on bachelor and paradise. And as you guys know, being the pressure of being on camera

and being forced to make decisions in the moment. Because so many times in life, you really are, you have the ability to walk away from the situation and think, you know, process things,

“think, things through. That's not the case with reality TV. You have to make a decision in the moment.”

And that's extremely difficult. And so, I think a lot of times I would shy away from making

decisions and I would always kind of be one foot in one foot out. And that was kind of like the

course of our relationship and then what turned into our friendship where we would just always be texting and always talking to each other and we'd always just kind of like come back to each other. There was never a time where we really separated where we thought like it's best for us to just not talk. And I was something neither of one of us ever wanted. And then it became this thing where both of us were single. And there was nobody in my life that I had was pursuing a relationship.

There was nobody in her life that she was pursuing a relationship. So it was kind of like we were dating without any physical intimacy. And we were still kind of going on dates with other people. But like we were always friends. We'd never talk about other relationships. I think in my, what I know and I'm assuming she feels the same way was that if it ever came to a moment where I was potentially going to get serious with somebody and then same thing with her that it was going to our friendship

was going to come to across it. Because nobody was ever going to feel comfortable meeting a part of her life. And nobody was ever going to feel comfortable with my relationship with them with actually being a part of my life. As closely as we were and it never really came to that point until it did. And then that's when, you know, I needed to do some self reflecting and really think about what I wanted to do. And you know what I wanted to be with. And you know, so that you close the deal

on the show or in. So I got super lucky. We've told this story a million times as well. But so

Bachelor of Winter Granes, which was a spin off. And then she, I had heard that she potentially was

dating someone. It could have been serious. Maybe not serious. I don't really know. But you know, obviously, she was away filming. And so, you know, through this time of obviously it was pretty stressed and like being like, "God, there's to moron. Why didn't you just like, you could have tried dating Ashley. You guys were so good for each other. And now she's not going to be a part of your life at all because clearly she's going to be with this guy. And she's not going to want me to interject

or interfere with anything." So she left the show and then we talked a little bit. I knew she was dating this guy. I didn't know how serious it was. So luckily, we had this plan tripped because at this time close to Ashley and I were. So it was with Ashley, her sister Lauren and our friends Tanner and Jay, who were super close with obviously, we just took a vacation with them. And our agent Paul and his wife, Kay, and so we had this tripped, I know, it's the St. Lucia plan for

months. And it was literally right after New Year's. And so long story short, I flew down there, and, you know, asked her about, like, all right, you know, what happened on winter games and she told me. And then I knew once going down there, you know, I talked to my mom about it, I talked to my friends about it. And so I was going to, you know, for lack of a better way,

“confess my feelings. And that's what I did. And I said, you know, there's a reason why I was”

dating anybody else. And like, I feel like for so long, you and I have been one foot in one foot out. And like, it's on me. It's my fault. And but I want to tell you now how exactly I feel to make, you know, to give you, you know, all the information you need to make the decision. And I didn't in a very romantic way. We were at the beach. And she was in this little, um, like a lazy boy, floater thing. And I was like in the water with my arms on. I was trying to

be very much like Jack Dawson at the end of Titanic. It's a favorite movie. That's what I invented. And so, um, and just telling her how I felt. And then we left and I felt super good about it. And we're in the airport. And she, you know, was flying back to LA. And she could, you know, she was looking at me as if like, this is when you tell me you tell me now now I have to fly home to see this other guy that I'm kind of in a relationship with after filming the show.

Yeah. And so then she went on her, she was in line to board it. I went upstairs. And I was in, you know, sitting there in my friends Tanner and Jay was like, uh, I was like, I don't know. Should I have

“kissed her? And then my friend, Jade was like, yeah, you should kiss her. And I was like, well,”

would that have been the first time you've kissed her? No, no, no, but the first time in two years,

you know, I mean, it's extremely long time. And so, uh, once Jade told me, I was like, okay, I feel that vindicated. Like, I feel that this is valid. I need to do this. Because if she was like, I don't know, you should probably just give her some space, but she was like, no, you should kiss her. And I was like, okay, that's all I needed here. So I went down and pulled her out of line. And I, I, uh, you know, heard her some cheesy line. And then center on her one. That's beautiful.

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your bridge to the future. Anyone can now be an entrepreneur, anyone can build an app, and it's very empowering. Each week, I'll speak to the people building that future. And we're going to break down what all of this innovation actually means for you. What I come to realize is that when people think the day of dating these AI companion, they're actually dating the companies that create this. We're experiencing one of the greatest

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“then I think that's probably the best thing we can do for your mental health.”

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“Wait a minute, Sophia, did you just say he lost everything?”

That's right, it's an aridine too much drama week on the okay story time podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, "I just inherited a fortune after losing my mom and now my girlfriend's entire family is coming out of nowhere with their hands up. One sibling wants me to fund their whole lifestyle. Another vanished for four years and suddenly reappeared, and my girlfriend is already giving my money away." Hold on, Sophia. So the girl he wants to marry is already

sending money out the door. And that's just the beginning. He makes a plan, sets up a trust, and finally thinks he has everything under control. Okay, so things work out then? Let's just say the people he trusted the most are the ones who ended up shocking him the most. To just the money end up being worth going through all that. To find out, listen to the okay story time podcast on the IR radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

“How did you resist not moving to L.A., especially being born and raised in a small town like that?”

You know, everyone sort of dream as always to either end up in New York or L.A.,

and then obviously now you're in showbiz. How did you resist not wanting to come to L.A. when you first got your dish out? Do you guys both look at L.A.? I live in L.A. Yeah. Okay, nice. So with all due respect, L.A. Los Angeles. I did too. And my father-in-law is the same way, so I get it. It's just like so we live, so anytime I would go to L.A., it's just like listen, I love film, I love Hollywood, I love the idea.

Of Hollywood, you know, with movie making, creativity, and just, you know, the stars, you know, red carpets, it's awesome. It's so appealing to me because it's so much fun because I grew up on that. Like, and I grew up on movies and I would watch, like, all like I would love watching the Oscars and all these celebrities showing up and I'm like, 'cause it was back then, it was the only time that you would ever see, you know, L.A. Los celebrities was either on talk shows,

or really the Academy Awards and you would see Jack Nicholson and Bruce Willis and, you know, Keanu Reeves and all these Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sylvester Stallone and just like all these

guys that I just like idolize as a kid. And so anyway, like Hollywood, I always love, but then,

of course, getting, you know, being there practically. I'm like this place is dirty and expensive and

the same way in New York because it's so crowded and so dense even though L.A.'s more spread out,

it's still just like, you can never get away. Yeah, you know, I always just felt uneasy in L.A.

So anyway, so I never wanted to move there and then actually before I started dating, I actually of, like, it was, it all kind of happened at once, but my buddy Nick, Nick Viall, he, he was on my season of the Bachelor at and then he became the Bachelor and now he's extremely successful, he's got his own podcast, he's doing fantastic, but Nick was the Bachelor, it not ended up not working out with him in the girl he chose and then he was on dancing with the stars and then he ended

apart in downtown L.A. that was like still had eight months left on his lease and it was a two

“bedroom, two bath, like a big place in the downtown L.A. and he was like dude, you should come out,”

move out here, you've never lived outside of Rhode Island and just give it a try and just move and here. And he's like, I'll let you live here free. I'm pretty sure he was just lonely and looking for like someone hanging out with him, but I was like, sure, I'll take you up on that. I was like,

you know, it was in October of 2017 and I was always like, I go home for Christmas, so like,

I go out there for a couple of months, see if I like it. So I went out there dinner really like it, but this was also the same time frame that everything started happening with Ashley. So I actually felt extremely lucky. So I moved in with Nick and like October, November of 2017, everything starts happening with Ashley in December and early January of 2017, 2018. So Ashley was living in Los Angeles. So clearly I stayed in L.A. living with Nick because you know, I had to stay close

by because I was just kind of like waiting because what happened was after she left the airport. She was like,

“I'm going to, you know, pursue this with the guy and see how it goes. And I was like, I respect that.”

And I want you to know that like, I'll wait and I know you're not going to, like, right. So at the airport, she's still, even though she kissed you, she still says, hey, I still got to pursue my thing with the other guy. Of course. I wish I respected because she wasn't going to just drop everything for me. Right. And I thought, thank you for staying the same. I said, I respect you for like staying and say, I'm going to wait. That's pretty awesome. Yeah. I owed it to

her. You know, because I was the guy who's always pushing away, pushing, pushing, pushing, pushing,

because it was like, I didn't want to cross the, I didn't want to cross that boundary. I did, what I really didn't want, you know, as in, I can admit this as a 37 year old man now was like, I didn't want to lose what we had. And because I loved what we had. But also what we had was as wonderful as it was, also toxic, because like I said, it wasn't, like it wasn't a friend that I could, you know, bring over to a new girlfriend's house and be like, "Smy friend Ashley,

isn't you wonderful?" They'd be like, "Uh, you're not, you're not hanging out with this bitch." You know, which I get, I of course I get, you know, and so on. But let me go back a little bit because, um, I don't know about you Edmund, but I, I would have a hard time wrapping my head around having, I don't know, 17 different options, options after options. And how do you choose the right girl? I mean, how much time did you spend with each girl before you decided, uh, was it instant

“or did it take you time to say no to the girls that you, that you met on the show?”

I think just like everybody, you know, you kind of spend time with people you see if you connect, whether it be physically, emotionally, mentally, you know, as, as you guys can also test you. There's just certain types of people, I, at least I believe there's certain types of people that you just, um, innately are, are drawn to, um, and so when you go on dates, they're just times where you're like, "Man, I want to, I want to be around this person more," and I love being around

them. You know, so I always say, we exchange energy as humans, and um, this is super important, especially when it comes to robotics and AI that's never going to happen, but when we shake hands when we're close to each other as humans, it doesn't matter the sex. We exchange energies, and I can't tell you how many, well, I can tell you, there's only been three times in my entire life where I've stood or shook a person's hand, and I just got the grossest feeling, never ever

want to be around that person. But for the most part, um, you're right, you just, you just get that sense from somebody, I want to hang out with this person a little bit more, you get to know them, yeah, others, you're like, "Hey, I can, nothing there." Yeah, and there's just like, there's relationships, whether it be friendships or, you know, intimate relationships where, like, I've had relationships in the past where, you know, the physical part might be great,

but it's also just like, there's something off. Not a bad way, not that there are bad person, they're wonderful, but just like, for some reason, it always feels like we're trying to make this fit. Like, where, with Ashley, it was just like, I felt so comfortable, even in silence,

of like sitting or hanging out together, and it never felt awkward, and there have been times

where I've been with other people, where it's been extremely awkward. I've been trying to like, keep the conversation going, or they've been trying to keep the conversation going, but it's just like, like, not clicking. Yeah. So how did you convince her to move? So now you're dating L.A., things are going well. How do you convince her to go back to Rhode Island? So she's been in L.A., she's West Hollywood, that's a whole different world than Rhode Island. How do you, I mean,

I remember when Teddy was trying to convince me to move from West Hollywood to in Sino, I was kicking and screaming, because I'm like, I don't want to leave Hollywood Hills. What do you mean,

“what going to in Sino? Imagine West Hollywood to Rhode Island. How did you convince that?”

I always, well, two things. One, her family is on the East Coast. She's from northern Virginia.

So her family and her sister, so her parents and her sister, are both in the D.C. area, which is wonderful. So that was easy to get her to move East. And then when we first started dating, this was back in 2018, you know, we both agreed that, because I always wanted to move back East, move back to Rhode Island, and we said five years, while the five year plan, and then in five years, we moved back to Rhode Island, and she was five with that. And we both

agreed like, listen, things are going so extremely well that we can't leave Los Angeles, then of course, will just reassess. But then COVID changed everything. And then it was 2020. So we were, you know, I was in L.A. for, you know, about two and a half years at this point, she was there for about six years, and then it was 2020, and everything was remote, and everything was just, it wasn't as, we just weren't getting as much work as we were in L.A. because before COVID, it was like,

there's so much competition as you guys know for so many different entertaining jobs,

entertainment jobs, that I felt we always had an advantage by being in Los Angeles, because they were like,

all right, well, who's local? Yeah, it's like, we're local. We can be there tomorrow. You don't need to pay for our flights. You don't need to pay for a car service. I'll drive. I'll pay for my own gas. So that really gave us a leg up in a lot of different things. But then COVID hit and just everything became remote. And now, I mean, look at us, you know, our podcast, everything is, is done over the phone or computer that it just really, it didn't matter if we were in Los Angeles. So we ended

and moving in 2021 to Rhode Island and, uh, been here ever since. Is that where you got married? Yep. So she also loves, uh, I don't know if you guys do you doesn't know the new show, uh, love story. Okay. It's on FX. It's the story about JFK Junior and Carolyn. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was watching that with my wife. It's a beautiful story. Yeah. It's a new Ryan Murphy show. So my wife is obsessed with

“JFK Junior. And so, uh, he, I know that's what I'm saying. She says she just yelled from the other”

room. She's like, "Don't lie, I've always been obsessed." And he'd be family. And so, um, so obviously, my point is she's obsessed with this show. But, uh, John of Kennedy, senior, no junior got married in one of the, in Newport, Newport Rhode Island. It was like, I would love to get married in Newport. I was like, that's fantastic. Uh, because that's 20 minutes for my house. Um, and so, yeah, it was beautiful. It was great. We got married around. And, uh, thank you for the Kennedy's for allowing

that to happen. You know, Roldahl, the writer who thought I'd Willy Wonka, Matilda and the BFG. But, did you know he was also a spy? Was this before he wrote his stories? I must have been. Our new podcast series, the secret world of Roldahl is a wild journey through the hidden chapters of his extraordinary controversial life. His job was literally to seduce the wives of powerful Americans. What? And he was really good at it. You probably won't believe it either.

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and it's very empowering. Each week I'll speak to the people building that future, and we're going to break down what all of this innovation actually means for you. What I come to realize is that when people think that they're dating these AI companion, they're actually dating the companies that create this. We're experiencing one of the greatest tech accelerations in human history. And let's be honest, that can be messy. There's no playbook

all benefit from this moment. Mostly human will show you how. My goal is to give you the playbook,

so you can benefit. The reason I say agency is because like if you can give power back to people,

“then I think that's part of the best thing we can do for your mental health.”

Listen to mostly human on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. A silver 40 caliber handgun was recovered at the scene. From iHeartPodcasts and best case studios. This is Worshack, murder at City Hall. July 2003, Councilman James E. Davis arrives at New York City Hall with a guest. Both men are carrying concealed weapons. And in less than 30 minutes,

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If you're trying to keep up with everything happening on and off the court, we've got you covered on the podcast, flagrant and funny. You look at the top four number one seeds. What do you think UCLA is going to do right down that for me, my friend? Obviously, you kind of see

“overwhelming favorite in this tournament. But I feel honest, I think people are kind of sleeping”

on Texas experts are suggesting that UCLA is the number one challenger to you con and that right after that would be Texas. SNC is so it's so deep and so they can just about everything. I really is annoying. So it's UCLA, Texas, South Carolina, LSU. Only once I could possibly upset you con. On flagrant and funny, we're giving our unfiltered takes on the biggest moments the conversations everyone's having, so whether you're bracket is busted or you just want the latest

on the tournament. We got you. Listen to flagrant and funny with Carrie Champion and Jamel Hill on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. presented by Capital One, Bounding Partner of iHeartWomenSports. I became a millionaire overnight, but lost everything that actually mattered. Wait a minute, Sophia. Did you just say he lost everything? That's right. It's an eriting too much drama week on the okay story time podcast, so we'll find out soon.

This person writes, "I just inherited a fortune after losing my mom and now my girlfriend's entire family is coming out of nowhere with their hands up. One sibling wants me to fund their whole lifestyle. Another vanished for four years and suddenly reappeared and my girlfriend is already giving my money away." Hold on, Sophia. So the girl he wants to marry is already sending money out the door. And that's just the beginning. He makes a plan, sets up a trust, and finally thinks he has

everything under control. Okay, so things work out then? Let's just say the people he trusted the most are the ones who ended up shocking him the most to just the money end up being worth going through all that. To find out, listen to the okay story time podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Well, let's get into the housewife of things.

You know, the biggest question I always asked, or we always asked together at when an eye is how

were you cast and how was that conversation as to whether you're going to say yes or no? I mean,

“I would argue that with your experience on reality TV, this was kind of a no-brainer, right?”

Yeah, a little bit. They called, we heard that they were doing a real housewives of Rhode Island, like rumbleings about it, because Rhode Island's just a small state that everybody was like, "Oh, did you hear this might be happening?" And I guess this was like a year and a half ago, maybe? And it was like, okay, that's, you know, that's cool. But I guess I never really felt that they would ask Ashley. So then they called, I remember when Ashley, she was like, so housewives is inquiring about

me being on the show, and I was like, okay, that's wonderful, obviously. I, you know, I've never seen housewives, I don't want reality TV, I'm very much like you Eddie, where I didn't watch my own bachelor episodes. I'm like, I don't like to sound of my own voice, you know? So it's like, I don't want to watch that shit. But ironically, the only reality show I've ever watched before I was on the show, which Jersey Shore. And that was before. Boy, these were Rhode Island. So,

like, you know, when we heard Polly Dee was on, I was like, oh my god, that's so cool. Rhode Island on reality TV. Yeah. So fast forward. So Ashley got a phone call and was, and, you know, it was the

talk to them, what the show would look like. They came out to Rhode Island, check out our house,

“kid, see what our life is like, Audrey's the, the coffee shop that we own. And so it was one of”

those things, because we've already been a part of it, where I think at the back of our heads, even, even in the casting process before they told us that they wanted Ashley to be a housewife, there's no way we're going to send out of this. I mean, it's too big of an opportunity.

I'm going to be familiar with housewives. Well, of course, the name I've never seen the show,

but of course, who's not aware of the housewives? It's such a phenomenon. Yeah, that's why that's why it's as difficult as a decision this might be. I can't imagine a world where one I would ever tell Ashley, no, because I was more hesitant than her. Just because it's you know, I didn't know much about housewives, except clearly like the entire show rightfully so it's what the show is, is centered on job drama. Yeah. And so we're bachelor's, you know,

“much more, of course, is tons of drama, but it's like this over-arking story of love, where it's”

like you see the relationships develop. And with housewives, at least to what I'm aware, it's much

more just about like drama within the friend group. And so, um, and then I would interject here and

say that housewives is, or I, from based on what you said, bachelor's definitely has an arch and has a happy ending. And housewives, there's absolutely no happy ending. Well, that sucks. Sorry. But it's pure so dangerous. If you guys, and if you guys got the call again, now you've been through housewives, you both have found your so experienced in the show. Would you individually both say yes? For housewives? Yeah. If, like, with all the information that

you have now, you've been through it, but now you're able to go back in time and tell yourself the moment you say either yes or no to the producers before you ever stepped foot in this franchise,

“would you still have said yes? I would. I would. I, as much as I hate it, it's been a phenomenal”

experience that I don't know how else I would have experienced. You know, I take it day by day now, but in the beginning, um, I didn't really know what it was all about. In fact, I got confused because my friend who introduced me to my wife, uh, he was like a, we, we were looking for a house to film and we're filming a show, the real housewives of Orange County. And at the time, the desperate housewives was the, you know, popular show. So I'm like, what, Terry Hatcher was walking through that door.

Yeah, or, or actually, my, my crush was Eva Lungoria. I'm like, what? You're going to bring Eva Lungoria to the house and he's like, no, a wrong housewife show. So I had no clue what it was. And I didn't watch TV much at all that, at that time. So when I got to know it, and I got to know her, even even before even watching the show, I was literally not interested in watching reality TV. I got to know my wife. And really, it was for her and I was truly love it for sight. And it,

but she was already married and kind of on the outs with her husband. And it was about eight months later that, that, you know, we had the opportunity to go on a date and then it hit me, like, holy shit, I got to do this. But I didn't know what to expect. And I went into it, eyes wide open, kind of just take it for what it, what it is. And it was a pretty cool experience until towards the end of the season, where I figured out, okay, this is, and what I mean by

towards the end of the season, towards you into the first year, we filmed it. I came on as the

night in shining armor. They made me look like, you know, a badass dude, like saving her, sweeping her from, you know, under her feet. And it was a great love story that they presented. But towards the end, after it was cut and edited and all that, towards the end of the show, something happened and they made me look like an asshole. And I'm like, okay, I can't do this anymore. I just, I have no control. Absolutely zero control on what they're going to edit and how they're going to edit it. Because

it's super easy to take everything out of context and create trauma and something out of nothing. So after the first year, I was very hesitant to go back. But I realized, you know, I, I'm in love with this girl. And if I want to be with her, I have to suck it up and be on this show that I don't want to be on. And I had to just kind of make flip a switch in my head and go, okay, let's just, let's just do it. I'm here to be in the relationship with her, supporting her, and try to stay out

of the line of fire. But, you know, my concept turned out to be no alcohol. Because I say stupid

And just, you know, let this show be what it is. It's a housewife show. So anytime the shit hit the fan or the drama started happening, I just took a few steps back behind the camera and stayed out of it. And it's, it's worked out for me for many, many years. You know, they, they've had their moments where they caught me in the right moment, the moons shining just right, the water, you know, moving just perfectly. And I'm like, yeah, I'll do an interview with you and they take

it out of context and they screw me in. I'm like, never doing that again. So it's been an overall

“really fascinating experience that I would definitely do again. What about you, Edwin?”

Definitely. I would definitely do it again. And I mean, it was challenging. But I also think it's good for business. I mean, I, I'm sure I helped your business a bit, right? And, you know, I'm curious Jared was your, because I liked the entrepreneurship side of everything. Obviously, you, you were, you have your coffee shop office. Was that already established? And did that take? Was that part of the decision that now you could sort of market the coffee shop? And so that's, I guess, part, part question

number one, my second part is how much did you be an manager at a restaurant, help you with

starting the coffee shop? Well, it helped immensely. I would never have started my own,

because coffee shop or bar, without any type of restaurant experience, because I at least had an idea of what I was walking into. And, no, it, it, we never factored in Audrey's with the decision of Housewives, because it was, it, well, it's a part of the show, you know, in certain capacities. But, you know, I, I, I, very aware that like now that Audrey's is on on TV, that it's going to be, you know, there'll be more people coming in, which is wonderful. But, you know, have your

looking lose a go by take a picture? Yeah, do you spend a lot of time there? Yeah, I'm there all the time.

“That's why, you know, having the, um, experience in restaurants, because my first job was a bus boy,”

and then I was, did curbside and weighted tables and bartended and then managed. I've worked at, like, you know, four or five different places. So, I've had a bunch of experience working in restaurants. And I love the restaurant industry. I love it so much. There is an addiction to it. But I knew

when, oh, but in this place, at least for the first year, when talking to Ashley, because it was

definitely a joint decision, because I knew I wasn't going to be home a lot, because with restaurants, you know, you have to be there. You know, it's one of the industries where you just have to be there. And I'm still there quite a bit. I try to reduce as much as I can to ensure that, you know, I balance my time between being a father and a husband and a business owner and then also being an influencer. This, you know, in crazy, entertaining world, which is wonderful for us.

But, but yeah, I'm there cooking, washing dishes, making drinks, doing whatever I need to do. Yeah, I love it. I love the people that I work with. It's definitely like a family, you know, environment there, which is what I love. You know, just describe the restaurant. So, it's Audrey's coffee house in London. So, Audrey's my mother-in-law. It's named after Ashley's mom. That we really wanted it to be the family business. And that starts with the name on down.

It's a small business. There's only one Audrey's. Like, I'm there all the time. And it's very, what we do is we try to really give out good food, good drinks, good ambiance,

“and good vibes. And that's what we do. We're not reinventing the wheel. But our sandwiches are really good.”

Like, we have a great cake and avocado. We have a really good chicken salad sandwich and a chicken Caesar wrap. And then we also had the grilled cheese tomato soup. We also had these wonderful drinks that we love. And like, we have this, we have a strawberry shortcake chai right now, which is extremely popular because everybody loves strawberry co-phone. But we do these different type of lattes and coffee drinks and like the coffee beans that we source out is from actually a fellow

bachelor alum. His name is Ben Higgins. He was the bachelor. He started the coffee company back in 2016 called generous coffee. And so, we source our beans from them. And it's a non-profit. It's wonderful. 100% goes into charity. And so, but we also are local. We also have beans from Providence, Rhode Island. And you know, we try to just, you know, I try to just grind as much as I can. You know, it's such a world for seven days a week. You know, so Monday through Thursday, we're open seven to four. Friday,

we're open later. We stay up until 10 o'clock. We have trivia in a clock. I host like 90% of the trivia there. I love hosting trivia, but it takes so much of my time to come up with the questions. And it's just, we do private events. We do catering. We go back to Rhode Island. I, you know,

And in this place, I used to visit frequently. It used to be a coffee shop. And they ended up leaving

“like Ray around COVID. I'm not exactly sure why, but they were pretty successful coffee shop. And so,”

when I walked into the place when it was up for lease, like a lot of the structures already there, the counter tops, the floors, the sealings, like even certain plugs. I could see where the equipment went, where they put their equipment. So I kind of vision it in my head. I've been like, okay, this is where the oven's going to go. This is where the hotst, you know, the stove tops going to go. This is where the three-based things are going to go. So on and so forth. And so I was like, man, it feels like there's ever an opportunity to do this.

I was able to negotiate at least that I felt comfortable with in terms of the length of years. And it was just like one of those times where it was like kind of the only reason we would say no to this is because I'm scared of failing. And so, you know, Ashley and I budgeted it out a certain amount that we felt comfortable. Like, if we lost all of this, we're okay. And we can still invest it in the restaurant. And so, you know, we just made the decision together. And Ashley's been

in an extremely supportive way because it takes so much of my time and effort and energy to run this place. But she's been right there with me because she's working full-time. She's a housewife. She's helping you to take care of the kids. Like, as we're deaf-wise, you guys know, it's a team effort. It is. It definitely is. And it reminds me of when my wife and I launched a fitness company. And it was both of us together. But there was a period of time where we were not seen eye to eye on

the business, you know, vision. Yeah. So it took a long time. Oh, and that happens. You guys will see that on housewives. Do you know what I mean? Ashley and I had very real conversations about what she should not happen with the future of Audrey's. But that's okay. And you guys, you know, I was

“any when you were talking about how, you know, everything is out of your control. I think that's how”

I try to go into it. Like, Ashley, which makes more sense, she's much more in tune of what people are saying or how things might get perceived or kind of like over-analyzing things. And I try to just ignore everything. Like, I, I don't know if I'll watch the show, not in a malicious way. I hope the show is extremely successful. Like, these producers, as much as, like, we know that sometimes they're not in our four or best interests, they're lovely people. They're trying to do a job. I don't think

they're trying to ruin any people's, anybody's life. They're just trying to make a compelling and interesting television show. And I wanted to be successful for them because I see how hard they work. Yeah. But like, I don't know if I'll watch it. Yeah, I know they, they do a fascinating job creating this, this, this show for people. And people, it's gone for 20 years now. It's crazy.

Incredible. It's a, like, Ashley's a housewife. That's crazy. You know, there's a whole

interview. So few people, like, even us as, house, husbands, is that what we're, we're called, a house husband? Yeah. That's like a new title. Yeah. I'm, I'm fine with that. I do a great job walking in the background of scenes, you know. But even, like, as a house husband, there's so many few people that have had the opportunity to do this. It is pretty incredible when I step back and

“look at it from 10,000 feet up in the air. Yeah. That's, it's, it's a phenomenon. And, and that's why”

I look at it that way. Like, I don't regret being in it. You know, I, I do regret the times where I learned the hard way, like, drinking too much and getting too involved. And I, looking like an idiot, or for that matter, witnessing some of the other guys on the show going up against the housewives. I'm like, dude, you're going to lose this battle even if you think you want it. Yeah. On a time. Yeah. I know Edwin agrees with that. Oh, for sure. Oh, by the way, are you,

are you nervous with anything that might come out this season? Anything got you nervous? Are they going to put the song? Hopefully, they edit that out. No, because I'm, I'm more in the camp of, of what Eddie was saying, where I, I tried to just focus on the things that I have control of things that that's what I see, you know, who I learned that from Tom Brady. Yeah. Yes. I remember listening to Tom Brady's post game press conference,

or, or any, you know, press conference that he gave, and it was always like, like, he, there's

so many things that I just can't control because they would ask them about, you know, Peyton Manning, or what about this or what about that or all these, you know, things that could potentially happen. He's like, listen, all I could do is control what I'm doing right now, which is I'm getting ready and I'm practicing. So anyway, my point is I try not to just like, you know, there's going to be someone out there who probably thinks that I am the worst person alive and there's probably

going to be someone out there who thinks that I'm the nicest guy alive and it's just like, it's just the way people think and there's nothing wrong people are very, you know, I signed up for this show, knowing exactly what it was going to be, which is I, there were going to be so many

your, you know, the faults that you, you may or may not have and you, you had regret and it's like there's so many people watching this show, I would hope that also or like, dude, like, I,

“like, I mess up every day of my life, you know what we do, we mess up, that's what human beings”

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Biggest lesson I learned is for being on TV is you're never going to make it everybody happy,

and there's always going to be a certain amount of people that really appreciate you, and then there's going to be a certain amount of people that your eyes aren't brown enough, your hair is too long, it's too short, your skin is too dark, it's too light, there's just going to be so much to be picked at. At the end of the day, if you're not confident in your own skin and who you are as a man or as a person, then you're going to have issues. But outside of that,

I've always felt I know who I am, especially a lot of this reminds me of high school, all the shit that happens in high school, right? Yeah, of course. And even in that era of my life, I was like, hey, this is who I am, take it or leave it. And when social media came to our lives, same shit, people were saying some gnarly things, and it balanced out with people, giving you compliments or saying, you know, I appreciate you, I love how you handle the situation.

You know, you also have your share of, oh, you're so hot. So you know, it helps you really realize that I am who I am, and I'm not going to change that for anybody because if I do,

“I'll never be happy. So it's definitely something where you have to be real confident and who you”

are before you go on television. Yeah, my only concern, I guess it's on it concerns so much as more as like the thing that matters to me most is what my my sons think about me. Yeah, I feel like I pretty, like my parents have a pretty good idea of who I am. You know, I feel like Ashley has a pretty good idea of who I am, my friends. And so like I feel like even when, if like I did something or said something, I regret it on the show. Like I feel like they would be like,

I understand where you're coming from, you know, even though I don't agree with it. Like because I care about what, I don't care about what strangers think of me. I care very much about what like the

people that I care about think about. Right. But the most important thing is just like, you know,

what their sons think of their father. And so, and that's a really valid point because my first scene, and I know we've talked about this multiple times that when when I firm filmed for the first time, I actually got naked in the bathtub. And it was called the bathtub scene. And after everybody left, and we're sitting in bed, you know, thinking about what just happened, your head's spinning going, what the, did we just do, right? Sure enough, it becomes an iconic moment. And our next

dot is whatever our kids are going to do. And unfortunately, it was during her divorce. So her ex tried to leverage that to make us look like assholes. And it did hurt the kids, you know, to a certain extent, but not because they found out, but because her dad was, you know, pushing this on them. Like

“this is terrible with their terrible people. This is what they do. So I think though the other”

experience we had with the kids being on TV, you know, they kind of felt like they had a hide, you know, because everywhere they went, they're like, oh, your mom's a housewife, you know. And even today, when they tell the stories, yeah, we went to this restaurant and, you know, or my son, he was working at Starbucks, and it took about two months before somebody says, hey, aren't you? Tamers son? And he's like, no, no, not me. So now that they're older though,

my daughter especially is taking it, you know, by the horns, and she loves it. She's artistic, and loves to be creative. And she wants to be on the show. And she's super smart and really has her head on, you know, her good, on her shoulders that really helps her think through this stuff. But it's, it's going to be hard. I think the best advice I can give you is just to talk to the kids and share with them and what's going on. So they get the concept and they don't hear it

from a third party or their friends. You know, friends, kids are ruthless, man. They're going to

get picked on by boys and girls alike. And they're going to be told, you know, your mom's

“sted it up, your dad's sted it up. I think as long as you talk to them about it and just put it”

out on the table, it's kind of like you diffuse it, right? You kind of just like there's nothing

And I guess like my biggest responsibility, I feel like I feel like my biggest responsibility is ensuring that my kids are protected, which is my biggest responsibility. I feel in everyday life anyway. Yeah. But, you know, specifically with the show, because like you said so many things are outside

“of our control. That's what I'm nervous about. It's just like I just care about their safety,”

how they feel, how they look at me. Now my oldest is poor, so he's not going to have any idea. But like, you know, obviously in a few years, you know, when is it school? If we're still on the show, even if we're still not on the show, which hopefully we are, but you know, who knows what the future will have, like what, you know, kids will say. So by the way, did you make any enemies season one? Oh, well, you know, not me. I mean, honestly, I remember, so I'm not to say where or when we met

everybody first, but the first time I met all the women and all the guys, I was like, I like everybody, especially with the Rhode Island roots, because I met a lot of like the husbands. And I'm like, oh, I'm from work. And I'm like, you know, so I'm like, yeah, like, you know,

this guy, I'm like, yeah, what the high school with him, like, oh, so there's always like, oh,

we should go golf for the next week. Yeah, let's do it. You know, so there's already like a rapport and all the women were so sweet, but of course, like, when the women are together, you know, and there are certain times where like the women don't like each other. And they're crazy how they don't.

“It's crazy. Like how, like, certain, you know, I guess that's why they cast the show so well,”

'cause there's certain personalities where it's just like, they don't mesh. And it's because I'm like, but you guys are both wonderful in your own individual way. It's like, of course, like, you know, there are things. But, like, guys, just let it go. And it's like, well, why am I saying this? Of course, I'm not going to let it go. I'm not going to house my show. Like what the hell am I talking about? But no, I didn't make any enemies knock on wood. I really enjoyed, like, we've actually become really

close with one housewife. She's over all the time. She plays with kids. I'm friends with her husband who's super sweet and he's down to earth who went to dinner for her birthday last week. So it is cool. It's been like, damn, I can't believe. Like, hope this is the thing. Like, here we go. Yeah. Yeah. My last question for you on my end. Oh, yeah. More impressive. Tom Brady, Tom Cruise. It's, it's, it's Chris. It's Chris. Did that guy is the man?

Dude, when you hit him, so you, it was, so I love Brady so much. But Tom Cruise is just doing it for so long at such a high level. And like, I had the privilege of meeting Tom Cruise and do that

“guy's eye contact. It's just he doesn't break. And that's what you hear about him all the time. Like,”

he just makes everybody feel like they're the only person in the room. And he is the biggest celebrity of all time and to have that guy do that and just like, no, like, we're talking. I want

to talk to you and he does it with everybody. Actually, the first time we met him, he's funny. We were

talking to the producer or like, because it was like, they were doing an interview for mission impossible. And we got to sit and watch that and they were going to be able to like meet him afterwards. And so he, they were like, listen, he usually is like two hours like, and not unless he's like, but because he will talk to everybody. And he will make sure that everybody like, he'll go to a cameraman. But like, hey, I'm Tom. And it's like, who is this guy? Like, this guy is awesome.

You know, and he'll, he'll talk to everybody. Like, I remember when he walked into the room, they were doing the interview and it was like this big room. And then we were sitting in the corner and there was like 10 of us that had the honor of being here. And then he walked into the room and dude, it was just like, you could feel that air change. And everybody in the room just kind of like, everyone in the room just kind of like, you know, sat up. It was like, holy shit.

And he came over to us. And you were like, hey, I just wanted to apologize. They were running late. Just some things happened. That couldn't be avoided. But I really apologize for being late. And all of us were like, Tom, it is no problem. But like, just having that guy say that was like, wow, like, I need to be a better human being. Yeah. And I imagine you want to spend some quality time with them, you know, just hearing them talk about life experiences. Oh, it's nice. Yeah.

But everybody does. So like, the just the idea that I had two minutes to talk to is more than 99% of the world will have. And I was like, I'm so grateful to have those minutes. And to talk about Dawson, my son, because so we, he at the time, he was obsessed with Tapka and Maverick. Because it was called, he was two and a half. It was the plane movie. So like the beginning with, you know, danger zone. And he would just, we were just watching. He was loving. He would love to play in some

like, bro, like, it's so crazy. Because I would watch your movies with my dad, like, I grew up with a

few good men in the first mission impossible and cocktail and top gone. And now here I am years later.

And I'm watching your movies with my son, like the end of the movie. And so are your boys into

sons with the things that I love. And what's cool is they love the Christopher reversion. Because I show them that. Yeah. And I love the new one with David Corence, and Henry Cavalman is a little bit dark. So they haven't seen that one yet. But they loved the new one and New James gun one with David Corence. But they also loved the old ones, Christopher, you know, that I grew up on. It's cool. It's like, dude, that's awesome that you love that. My favorite, you know, the Rocky movies. Do you have

any advice for, um, Jared, for, um, you know, I'll take it. Yeah. Oh, just, mine is easy. Just stay away

from the drama with the ladies. You can't beat the ladies in any situation. You're always going to

lose against the ladies. So, yeah, for Rocky, that's the life. They're like the Ivan Drago. Yeah, exactly. It's never going to go well when you try to get into an argument with one of the ladies. So that's good. How I have this question that I need to ask you, how is Ashley, if you know, how is Ashley filling about the first season of housewives? She feels good. It's just like, she stayed out a lot of the drama probably because we, she's, you know, we're just a little bit

“more familiar with reality TV. So I think we have a, a better, now navigation, but also like confidence”

to kind of like set maybe a little bit more boundaries or borders than, you know, some people who are just going in for the first time. And so, um, Ashley feels pretty good about it. You know, I mean, she's, she's honestly, she's, like, it's obviously we're just entering it. You guys know much better than I, but it is crazy, because they do have a group chat together and they all text and there's like drama, there's someone's drama that happens off camera. You know, it's like, wow,

Karen, I can't believe how much drama they're actually is because so much happens off camera, like even after this, the show has, it's been, you know, months since we filmed and like there's still like so much that goes on in that group chat or the dynamic between the girls and it's like

damn, you know, it's crazy. When the housewife first started for us, there wasn't social media

or much of social media and there was a lot of rules about no talking, no, no collaborating outside of housewife filming, then we're not allowed to talk. Today's a little bit looser, you know, you can have conversations and they, they sort of encourage you to have a friendship or develop a friendship outside of the show because at the end of the day, doing this, this long, it's, it's hard to say that any of these people are your friends because they can backstab you

or, you know, expose you or create lies about anything just to be on TV, you know, it's, it's gotten dirty in, in many, many seasons, but I think it's turning around and I think it's going to become a better environment, but there was a period of time there were like,

I want nothing to do with these people because it's, it was just, yeah, they're just going to

“turn on you. And that's why I was going to say, you know, I don't know if it's going to happen to you,”

but even if you stay out of the line of fire, if there's nothing that the girls can do coming after, actually, for whatever reason, if they run out of that, you're their next target and they'll try to find something, you know, to say about you, like, your hair's not long enough for some stupid shit. For me, they made up, you know, some stupid lie that I was gay and they created this whole scene and, you know, it, it just couldn't get to Tamara anymore so they came

after me. So don't be surprised, it might happen, but that's one of the things I did not like, because, you know, I don't deserve this. Yeah, I didn't do anything to these women, but they, they, you know, they can't get to my life so they come after me. Yeah, it's just, you know, I'm, I'm going to try to just take a day by day, like you guys were saying and just, you know, not have it impact my life because it's really so much out of my control. What other people say about

me or what other people do, like, I, I'm just doing the best I can, so is Ashley and, you know, we're trying to be the best parents we can, we're trying to be the best partners, try to be the best family member and just like enjoy life and also like work hard and try to be kind to people and that's all I can do and, you know, I'll go to continue doing it and hopefully, hopefully it works out, but, you know, it sounds like you have the perfect partner, you know, you both have experience in it,

“you both became friends, you both trust each other and you both are in it together, so I think I have”

pretty good high hopes for you. I think you're all going to be great. Yeah, you guys are going to do great. Season premieres what April 2nd and are you having a April, April 2nd? April 2nd. I can't have a washbar, I don't know, I was thinking about having a washbar day vloggers, but at the same time, like, I can't, I can't wash myself. So like, it's like one of those things that like, I want to just crawl into a corner. Yeah, I don't know how I'm going to like invite people to vloggers, but like,

yeah, come watch, I'm not going to be there, but you guys could come. Yeah, I would encourage you,

to do that because it'll start creating a community around you and your clientels will

“understand, you know, not what they see on TV, not what they hear on social media, but the real”

person that gives you an opportunity to create that solid foundation in your community. And a time to celebrate, you know, this, this is a good excuse to celebrate. You guys did great, you know, you finish this, just like the watch party at the coffee shop. Yeah, I appreciate it, Boyce. Thank you so much for having me on. I really appreciate it. It was very nice meeting you both.

It's been a pleasure. Thank you so much for coming on. This is, uh, this was great.

I appreciate it, guys. You guys are the best. Thank you for welcoming to the house, husband, family. There we go. Welcome. Until next time, buddy. All right. Bye, guys. Have a wonderful, great day. Thanks, guys. You, too.

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