Unpopular Opinion, But… (The Valley Recap)

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Welcome back to the episode of Two T's in a pod. Good morning, Dolores. Hi, how are you? Hi, how are you? Oh, my god, I miss you too.

I miss you too. We both have been so busy. Oh, good. So we haven't been on the pod together. It feels like we're ever working.

I know, right? So you happy premiere day. Oh, thank you. So excited to be recapping Rolldahl Island with you and Teddy.

Wait a second, I just sent you all a picture of my leg,

because this is how swollen my body is. Tamara, I am a disaster. I feel so, oh my god, you poor thing. You've been wearing the heels and on your feet. Yes, show anyone who can't tell show you guys.

This is how bad I feel right now. It just took a picture. So that's my leg. That's my big side of beef hanging off me. I am so swollen from just running.

I just, it's crazy. Yeah, if you hadn't had been having fun though, it was so much fun. The girls are great and I'm excited for premiere day. Everyone, I've been running the streets in New York.

A lot going on in New York, by the way. Okay, so I want to get your take on this because Sierra is a really good friend of yours. You did traders together. I love my Sierra.

And there's a lot of shit being slung on the internet about the whole West and Amanda of it all. You had said, you were near-seater or something when you found out about West and Amanda would happen. Give me the dirt.

I'm going to give you the dirt. So every news outlet, because this was like the rumors started to get louder and louder. Like there was little stuff going on and we're like, yeah, it's like a blurb kind of thing or a shitty outlet posting

it, right? Yeah, and you're like, hmm. So then we were doing the press junkets, right? And we were online and they're like, what do you think about Sierra and what?

And what's going on with West and Amanda? And we were like, I was like, listen, you know my speech.

“I always give two to keep a secret if one is dead, right?”

I said, you know, it'll come out and then things really started

because it got too hot.

Like there was actual truth coming out about them.

And I guess some out let some whatever agency told them they maybe need to get ahead of it, right?

“Do you think it was a good idea to make a joint statement?”

I think, I don't know. I'm not a PR person. I'm not a crisis situation person. But I can tell you that I don't think it was worded well. There should have been, I'm sorry.

There should have been to anyone who we've heard for anyone who's been affected. And what did they call it a situational? I just, it wasn't great. So now I'm like Frankie Funa-Challi.

I'm getting ready for watch What Happens Live. And I'm of course hungry because when I'm like, my cortisol is high, I have the ravenous appetite. And Frankie Funa-Challi goes to Laura's as I'm trying to put my dress on for watch What Happens Like.

"Do you believe we just came out?" And she reads the statement to me. And I like lean against the wall that I'm like holy shit. And right away, I think of Sierra. But there's also people involved like Kyle as well.

Yeah, friends, that were in the house. You know, a lot of people involved. So we go and we're like, go to Seraphina's and we're like trying to eat. And right on the other side of the wall is a picture of Sierra

laying on the ground basically.

Not laying, but sitting up against, yeah, on the floor. And I go, that looks familiar. So Frankie touches the location, it goes, it's right here. So we drop our pasta. And I go running across to the other side.

And she had just gone in the restaurant to have some drinks with Derek or manager. And I called them, I go, where are you guys? I just saw you and they're like, we're here. And then Frankie's like, we got to go.

You got to be able to watch what happens live in a little bit. Oh. So you'll see, I am asked about it on watch what happens live. I did speak to Sierra. She's doing okay.

So with Sierra and West kind of dating.

So they haven't hooked up on the show. Have they this season? No, no. No, I don't think they were dating.

“I think I'm only assuming they have their closure”

with their relationship this year. I feel like it. There wasn't like a lot of closure for Sierra with that whole thing. Mm-hmm. Because there's lots of rumors out there that he was seeing Sierra at the time.

You know, there's a lot, I'm sure there's a lot of bullshit out there. And I was like, okay, was Sierra in love with him? I think she had very strong feeling. Okay, because I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure if she's like, we dated three years ago.

Like, I'm over it or because everybody is like a porcier porcier and then there's reports out there that they were still kind of, you know, flirting and seeing each other when she found out that her best friend is in a relationship. Other days. So I don't know that to be true, but because of her strong feelings for him,

he wasn't just like a drive by. He wasn't like a one nighter. She had feelings for him during the season.

“We're thinking like this was filmed last year, basically, right?”

Mm-hmm. And I still think like, they were, they were, you know, close. And let me put it to you this way. If I was for this close with someone, he would be off limits. Yeah. Well, I heard from an insider that allegedly,

there was a line tell Sierra what you tell me. So you know, so yeah, there was just, there was some suspicion while filming about Amanda and West. I believe that. And so this could possibly have been going on for much longer.

Now, if she was, or not, just time stamped something. Yeah, I think like if she was dating West, while she was still married, we absolutely have a sand of all situation. Absolutely. I feel like, well, they're not divorced, are they?

They're not divorced, but they're separated. But at the time, unless they were lying to all of us, when they filmed summer house, they were still together. But some insider said that they spent a lot of time together off-camera and on-camera. This is going to be summer union.

Oh, my God, could you imagine?

Well, here's the thing, what I think of it.

It's more between Sierra and Amanda at this point. Yeah, Sierra was an amazing friend to Amanda. She battles a lot of depression. She was always there for her, through her marriage. She wrote hard for her and she and Amanda knew how she felt about West.

Now, Amanda was, of course, vulnerable, hadn't been in a good relationship marriage for a long time now. And there's a lot of guys, though. Like, it can't be, I mean, I'm not in their shoes, Tamara. Honestly, I don't know what to say.

I want more information. How does the show move on? How do they, I mean, I know they have a new show coming out in the city. And I was just seeing clips of it last time. I'm not sure when it comes out, but that's going to air.

I'm assuming they're going to go back to that and they're going to go,

“do you think they're going to go back to some warehouse?”

And film and will they usually film like June July? Well, this will make for good TV. Let's see, how are they putting West and Amanda in this house? With her best friend and her husband? I'm curious to know if they're together.

Still, because you know these things. Right, but do you, uh, so when you talk to Sarah, I know you're not going to divulge everything she said to you. But, um, how did she find out? Did she find out from her friend Amanda or did she find out when it hit the press?

She did not find out from her friend Amanda. And you see a Kyle cook beam is concerned about her. A little gentleman on the streets. 100% you're in about her, not pissed off, but concerned. Kyle and Sierra, I would, I will, I will go on a limb to say,

did not know 100%, 100,000%, until they both, and you never know 100,000%,

until you hear it from the horse's mouth. Until you see it in black and white from them. You could still think, oh, sorry. Fucking mess. Like, yeah, well, even if there's apparently somebody this girl had pictures

of them kissing from another, they were in my neck of the woods. They were, they were here a week ago or so. They were at, uh, in Corona tomorrow. They were in Newport Beach. They were spotted.

I think it's gone, here's the thing. It has to be very serious for them to put out a joint statement.

“I think that he's, you know, West is in a guy who's wanted a relationship, right?”

He just wanted to be with a lot of different people. Well, there's a lot of girls coming out of the woodwork saying that they've been hooking up with them.

A lot, a lot, a lot, and, you know, he's, uh, he's the first to say I don't want anything serious.

So, and, and that was his thing with Sierra. He was like, I don't want to be with her because she wants more than I want, right? Said something like that. So, yeah, so they must have some, but I think he likes a man to, and why do you like a man to? Because she's off limits, because she's got a good point.

Good point, a challenge because she's taboo. What is it? Uh, I, that's so bad. Why is this one different or is this one not different? Because apparently, when you were supposed to be with Amanda,

you were seeing someone. Right, and also, if you're doing this and you know it's not good, and it's going to hurt a lot of people, why go public, why be in public places? Wait to see where it goes, because when it gets to that, like you don't care. We're just like, you, when you take it, lose everything.

She's losing endorsement deals, she's losing sponsors, she's, uh, you know, she was kind of going to be like America's little sweetheart. Direct us said she went from hero to zero. Yeah, I said that too. Yeah, even Rihanna, unfollowed her.

“Listen, we still have to remember that she, I don't want to be a part of”

God forbid, this goes really wrong here. You know, this, I don't want to, I'm, I'm not going to, it's, it's first, herns, it's between her and Sierra and West and Kyle.

be careful, this girl is fragile, right?

“People need to take heed to that, he to that.”

I know, I mean, when you fall on reality TV, it's fucking brutal. The cyberbullying and all that stuff that goes along with it and, you know, granted, they've fucked up as far as I'm concerned. And now it's the attacks on them and I feel like it's a little bit more for Amanda than it is for West.

Isn't it always? Yeah, for the girl. Listen, I, my main thing with Sierra is she's such a girl's girl and a good friend and a good hearted person. I said to her, I don't want you to change who you are.

You're going to appreciate this one day.

You're going to appreciate this experience. It's going to teach you something, and not everybody deserves all of you. Yeah, well, you can't sneak around with your besties, ex. Yeah, you know? Yeah.

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Oh, God, okay, moving on. Oh, so rugby update. This expensive. Don't tell me. Don't even tell me. So it's been, it's been a month since he had a surgery.

Maybe a little bit over a month. He developed a hematoma over the weekend. Oh, are you kidding? No, the hematoma. First.

Gaping hole in his leg. Took him to the urgent care. Stapled him back up.

He's back in a cone and like this talk.

He had been limping. Like, you know, like three weeks after, he went backwards. Eddie took, I said, take him in. Don't do the couch. 100%.

“I think there was fluid behind the knee or something like that.”

It was causing him not to put any weight on it. Very, but surgery. Yes, and so it's like, oh, my God. It's like so expensive. We're 10,000 in so far.

Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I think that's the only veterinarian that I know that doesn't make money. A lot of money.

I don't know what, like, what's she doing wrong?

What's the problem? If I know my daughter, she's doing a lot of things for free. Oh, if I know Gabby less her heart, a lot of shelters that take a long time to pay, that way she doesn't get her commission. Yeah, whatever.

Yeah, so I got to believe that you're gearing up to film. You probably can't tell us when, but how does it, how's that feel right now? It's been about two years, two years, it's been two years and I'm nervous. Like, I'm looking at you and you're working like a dog and I'm like, Tamara, I mean, when you're, I don't like even taking a break.

When I'm working, I don't want to stop. Yeah, just two year break. And I haven't, not been, you haven't been just sitting down for two years. No, I haven't, but filming is a different thing.

“You have to, it's a consistent organized, which, you know,”

you know, consistent, I know, organized. And there will be new people, I don't know who they are. I don't like that. I really bomb that Margaret's not on. Oh, yeah, you know why, let me tell you why.

Okay, it's the three of you, right? You Melissa Theresa. You guys all get along. And then there's Margaret who still has like, if she was in the mix, she's still not okay with Theresa.

She's still not okay with her. So you have some instant, you know, drama, instant conversations need to be had. And then you're going to have what probably three new girls? Three new girls. It's going to be, or maybe more.

Oh, there's one. Yeah, it's, it's going to be different. It's like almost like a, a reboot. And Jen Fessler was funny. Yeah, so when she just, we're in there, she's renting herself out for clown parties now.

Oh my god, her, her, and she's a tariff on away.

“That whole acoustic singing, I'm like, what are you doing?”

Well, on this check, you want to work again, don't you? Like, should we call her, see if she's okay, take her phone in a, in a guitar away from her? It was a lot. Oh, god. But I'm excited.

Just so you know, like, filming and doing the podcast is a lot. I am willing to like, the days that we're filming, recording. I'll start like at five or six in the morning so you can get it done early. Because listen, we'll work it out. Yeah, we'll make a lot to work out.

But can we just, what did you think of Jackie's video? Did you know she was taking the piss out of Margaret or no? Did you? I didn't see Jackie's video. What did she do? She came on. So Margaret said, came on gracefully excited and said, I'm going to, you know,

I'm declining the offer to come back and these type of things and it's just not my vibe. You know, whatever she said, yeah, Jackie comes on and goes. So it was offered a full time job to come back on real house. I said, New Jersey, but I'm going to decline. People did it. No, she was kidding.

That was like a couple of litators.

Oh, I knew she was Martin Margaret.

“Is that what she was doing? She was mocking Margaret.”

And I saw Janet and took a job at Margaret too. I don't like that. I didn't see them. I mean, we have a girl that didn't get us back this season. Do you seem to be driving her?

I want you. You just don't do that. Yeah, yeah. I didn't actually, I did not see it. But, you know, one Margaret, Margaret can handle herself, Tamara, that much I know. Well, I reached out and she was filming that other show. So we haven't connected yet, but I'm excited to talk to her.

And the thing with Margaret, she's busy. She's book. She's doing things. She's an entrepreneur and they might bring her back. She's going to say, you don't know if they're going to bring her back. You don't know if they'll bring Jen Fessler back. We just know how these new girls are going to work out.

I just don't see a world. So I don't see a world without Margaret on TV. I don't know. Oh, God. Okay. So let's get on to the valley. This was so good. It is season three episode one out of the valley.

I mean, I am so happy that LaLa's back. Oh, I was just going to say that she's so pretty. I get stare at her all day. I know. I mean, let's start out by talking about how many people are not divorced. We have Brittany who's not divorced from Jackson. I'm a shell and Jesse are also not divorced.

Why? I don't know. Both of them have said they've been working on it for two years. I can see with Brittany, like clearly Jackson's probably going to drag things out as long as you can.

And then Michelle's basically seeing Jesse won't sign the pocket papers.

Sign the papers. What are you doing? I don't understand who else got to know who did get divorced in this closure. That's Jackson's bar.

“Did you see them start out the season with him reading the sign down?”

Yes. I'm like, oh, that's a big bend over. Let me fuck you. Where's he been? No one's heard nothing from him. Last time we saw him, he was getting eviscerated on watch what happens live by Andy. Oh, you know what? You're right. He has not been out and seen out in about since. Not a word, not a peep.

Also Michelle is single again because Aaron dump time. No. What do you think? I mean, by by crazy eyes, but wait, what about La La saying? I really expect people to look me in the eye, but that one I could pass on. She's so fucking funny. I just, I love everything that she comes out of that girl's mouth, I really do. I mean, she gets shit. People come from her and I'm like, who cares? Who cares? Who cares?

So the whole Michelle and Aaron, the whole breakup with them, I don't really care. I don't care, but how do you feel about short moving in on her?

I don't know. I have to tell you something. I have always liked him.

“I love him. I think he's cute. I think he's funny. I think he's a good friend.”

I think he's the type of guy you marry. I like him. So there's six days of heart, and I don't know how old they are, but I do know that Kristen has not left the house. I think she's got postpartum. I think you can tell. You know, first time mom, you're not used to it, but at that age too. She's older. Exhaustion. Exhaustion. How old is she? I think she's 40, right? She's 43. Now there's Nia who's just popping them out every other year.

And then she's like, now this is no big deal. I got like four at home and I'm four under four. He says it nine million times. Danny says it all the time. That's rough. Four under four. Well, you know what? They finally moved to, where's it they moved? They moved out of the valley. They find, and they're in Santa Clara Rita. Well, they yeah. So is that good or better? I don't know. I like the area. I've been there like driving to. I don't know where I was. Santa

Barbara, something like that. It's just a little far out. Right. But they got a bigger house. They got a bigger house with a yard with all those. Yeah, they needed it. Yep. Yep. They needed it. But are they done having kids now? She said, yeah. That's good. I want to hear that. Good. She said she almost gave birth in the car because she was an hour away from the hospital. I'm like, I wish my labor was an hour long. Yeah, right? Well, it's her fourth. You had how many

now four, right? Four. Yeah. Well, listen. We're seeing a lot of adult stuff now. It's like we watch them when they were younger and now they're friends in the hospital. By the way, they're acting

relationships. And you know, we can all relate to like not feeling yourself after having a baby at

any age, right? You kind of lose yourself a little. Most of us. Uh-huh. Not near. But most of us lose ourselves. And we don't bounce back so easily. And you kind of like you're so tired and you feel like a mask. You don't want to have sex and all this stuff like I get it. I understand what she's going through. And he's like losing patience, I think, a little. Well, he just says,

“ask down. That's what he needs to do. We'll talk about that in a minute. But Janet had two”

bad seasons back to back. And now she's in therapy. Looks like she's attending the school of Tamara Judge. I love Janet. I love Janet. I don't care if it's popular opinion or not. Janet's been lovely to me. I had my opinions about her last year because I spoke on how she was acting and, you know, what, she, I saw it the I heart last time we were all together. Yeah. And she was wonderful,

nice to me. She looks great. It does. She looks amazing. And let's see. She's only going to have a good

season. Or do you think she just can't help herself? Um, well, why don't you think, tell me what you think. You're having a good season. Well, we'll see. I think that she just can't help herself. I think like once you are used to getting in the mix of things. And it's, uh, it's a hard had to get out of. So, well, I don't know. This is only her third year. Her pal there now. La La and her clothes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a quote, La La. When you have decades of friendship, there's going to be

good shit and bad shit. Let's focus on the good shit. Yeah. Let's focus on the good shit. But here's the thing. I have to say what's right, because I say what's wrong. Janet only spoke about

“was she making stuff up? Was she ever lying? Or was she telling the truth when she opened her mouth?”

I think she exaggerated when he was drinking in the closet doing shots like behind the door. Like he was, he was on a roll. He was drinking. I think that was a little much to say. But there were things that, you know, she was saying what other people didn't want to say and she was doing a job. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, situations like that. And it's happened to me for years. I will call people out. I'll get blamed for being the asshole. And then in due time, it comes out what I said was true.

And if I mean, I would be rich if every time I heard a red camera was right again, camera was right again. Just saying. Right. So, I'm going to say, but listen, if people aren't receiving what you're saying, then maybe you shouldn't. Right. You'll see that on a little situation. I'll think like that on Rhode Island, you'll see. Oh, okay. Early night. Yeah. Zach and Schwartz talked about how quickly Brittany has moving on. Leave the girl alone. Is it quickly?

She's been in a shit relationship for that as long as we know her. I was sick one night. I was watching their wedding. And I was screaming at the TV. Somebody stopped her. And this is a guy that she knew from Kentucky. And they were 22 years old when they met in a nice guy. It seems like a really nice guy. And we found out he has a very big winner. That doesn't pay my bills. I know. Sorry. Stripper or something. Yeah. No, not even. Stripper don't make what they used to. That's true.

Maybe. But you know, it's not a stripper at Schwartz. He says he put on 15 pounds after he closed the bar. Maybe Zach can share his GLP ones. I thought that was serious. Great. By the way, I was so happy. I was DMing with Zach. He was so cute to me. I love him. I love he's a good friend. He's a good friend to Brittany. He stood by her when people were sick of her, complain about the same

thing all the time this guy and not doing anything about it, meaning Jacks. And he never. He never

“gave up on her. And I don't I don't I look at good friends. That means a lot to me. Yeah. And that's why I”

have a hard time with the whole summer house thing right now. But besides the fact that I love Sierra dearly, I know you do. Zach is just he's a cool dude and him just going ahead and get himself a job in the stomach and saying, hey, I'm going to be honest. I'm on a weight loss drug. Here it is. Well, evidently, we find out that Brittany and Brandon, the new guy are telling each other that they love each other. He has to be the girl his girlfriend and she she's not ready for that.

She said I'm just glad she's having sex and having fun and she has less stress. She's giggling. She's happy. She feels good about herself. She's smiling. I don't think they're still

want her to feel like am I going to be bored with a nice guy? No, you're not. Yeah, that's what I was

about to say. Don't say that again, Brittany, because otherwise I'm going to have to call you. And I don't know you. I don't even know if you like me. But you cannot say that. It's a thing. Like even from going from my relationship from my ex husband to Eddie, they were so polar opposite that I was like, I don't know if I can do this. Does he like me? Does he like what is going on? Because he treated me so well. I was so used to be treating a different way. So I can get that

set when I hear someone say that. I, well, it's happens all the time. But I don't want to hear it.

“You get addicted to the chaos. No, don't. I don't. That's disgusting. You should have an easy life”

with an easy man. You find chaos with your girlfriends. You find chaos outside of your stability is the man that you're with or whoever your partner is, woman man, whatever it is. That's your stability. That's not the thing that, you know, get your adrenaline going because they're making your life miserable. Right. I girls, I think. I think. I love Tom said it well. How about

masturbating? Not to be confused with masturbating? Although it is dating yourself. So I never heard

this term before. A masturbating is where you take yourself on solo dates to boost self love and independence. All for it. All for it. I think that Brittany needs to do that. She's, I don't know if Brittany realizes how much damage has been done to her in all these years being with him. Yeah. I think that even though she's giggly and she's happy, those things manifest and they come out in other times and I don't want that to come out for her when she finds the right person. I think that she

needs to master date and and work on herself and the abuse she's been through before she does anything. Honestly, I know a lot of people um Natalie and Grotto who has been celibate now for like two years. She got a dog. She loves her dog Poppy. She's beautiful. She's thrived in her Amazon live business. This girl is the happiest. She's ever been and I know when she meets her partner now. She'll be

“ready for that person and she's just a stunning, amazing example of what you should do for your”

self to get ready for the person that belongs in your life. Yeah. And I think that Brittany needs that because she was, oh, she was in that drama too. She was no angel in that relationship. Not as much like he was horrible, but she got used to that and engaged in that. Yes. And once that's over and you find somebody that doesn't pull that crop with you, you're like, oh, is this boring? Well, so there's there's still at the barsack and shorts and the conversation is just killing me. Exactly. Obviously

talks about how he is roommate moving out and his boyfriend's moving in, but doesn't take much space in the closet because he's so little. They're so cute. The boy's friend and they're going together.

And he says he'll never make the jump to the valley. He's staying in West Hollywood. And then he

“makes never say never. I know. He makes his comment to Schwartz. Sex is all about making a baby,”

bull shit. Then why is your prostate in your bad hole? Jesus knew what he was doing. He put it up there. I died. I was about to share when he said that. Yeah. So we got Jesse, so we get to see Jesse's girlfriend, Lacey, who lives in Orange County. I followed her for, I haven't following her for a nice girl. She seems like a very sweet girl. And he thinks that he's going to have like this modern family dynamic with Michelle and his girlfriend and the little girl and why not Lacey has kids.

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morning and cameras are rolling. TMZ posted 44 minutes ago. Oh, oh, oh, here we go. These brought up really keeps TMZ in business. By the way, TMZ is all over the place. I haven't seen TMZ out like this in years. They were all over the scene. So I know they're big and L.A. You can go to any restaurant. They're out front. Bravo's keeping them busy this week. Yeah, that's for sure. This month or last 30 days. Bravo's keeping the busy. So now we have

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okay, you expected Jessel over her nine. I don't think so. He's just happy if he gets to go to Vietnam and get his sandwiches. All right. So we get a lot into Luke and Kristen's relationship.

“Navigating parenthood, not having sex, her being tired. Like we not. Yeah, I think we're going to find”

out that she's got a little bit of the baby blues. I mean, is it even fair for him to be complaining? Not enough sex this early on? I mean, I don't know. Like six weeks. Anyways, in the babies, only what six weeks old. Yeah. Like, but you understand, they probably weren't having sex a month before that. Too much for that. True. True. He's not feeling like herself. I'm not going to say he has no right to be to feel like this is getting a lot. He even said that she doesn't even want

me leaving the house to go to the store. Well, who's working, guys? I just just knew the one of them worked. I don't know. Maybe they're influencing. I'm going to just be honest with you. It's a hard

time for both of them. He could be. First of my parents is one of the hardest things. It's the hardest

thing. So I understand him saying like, am I ever going to have a life again here? Because he's like tired. She's tired. But I want him to handle it right. Treat her like a woman. He's telling her she's beautiful. He's telling her I love the way you look. But she's probably more to it. She's probably not only like turned off the sex, but she's probably also any emotion towards him. So she's so focused on her new baby with rightfully so and being a new mom overwhelmed doesn't

like her body doesn't leave the house. But you know what she lost me on? Nobody's nice to her at the grocery store anymore. But she's not pregnant anymore. I go, oh stop stop it. Nobody opens the door for me. Nobody fucking opens the door for me. I open up myself. Even when I am pregnant. Right. It's okay. It's okay. So anyway, she's feeling the baby blues. He's feeling the dad blues. I just hope that they're kind and listen to each other through this time and have patience for each

other. Both of them. Yeah. Okay. I know it's hard. Guys, you'll get through it this time passes. Brittany admits she avoids conflict and pleases everyone. She does. She's used to that. Yeah. Well, she had to be like that, especially with Jax. With the, yeah. You know, sometimes that's a part of someone's personality. I feel like, yeah, where she comes from and, you know, she's like Midwest girl. Like they're not fight it. You know, they're just more, well, it's a long pause her out for not

defending Janet. And she's like, listen, I avoid conflict. I don't like it. Okay. But that's not an excuse. It was something happened in your house and you're responsible for what happens in your house. And, but, you know, you're also filming a show camera that she has to let things happen. Exactly. We see Tom shorts and Michelle flirting. That was kind of interesting. I don't. I don't hate them

“together. I don't like Michelle. I think Michelle's so pretty. So nice. I, I hope that they finally”

stop, but like, first they're fighting over the food divorce. Now they're fighting over being nice to

the girlfriend. Like things got to stop. Somebody's got to stop somewhere. And I think Tom Schwartz would be a good influence on her. I think we're going to see Tom Schwartz. Now that his bars closed, he's out of that element in a way from Jackson, all that. I think sensible. And about we're going to see him change. And maybe you mature and grow up. And wasn't he kind of a cheater to though? I remember at the reunion Tom, sandable, was so worried about Arianna saying,

when we were having sex, we were having sex. And like Rick, Rick Hal was like, because he was probably telling her that she, they weren't having sex. And she's like, we had sex the other day.

“And he's like, yeah, and what you're shirt on. And then, oh, I remember that. Remember Schwartz? Yes.”

He was hurt for her. He was like, oh, God, man, come on. Don't say that. Like, he's just a stand. I'm sorry. I know him. Like, I've met him personally. I've been on his podcast. Like, I just love him. I like that. I think he's good for Michelle. Well, Kristin's like,

polished up. He didn't polish up. And I think he's going to be, he's going to get on the GLP one.

He's going to start work. You know, he's kind of, you know, away from those guys. I always felt

“like he had more of a, um, he was the nice guy. Like, he could be a nice guy. Yeah. Am I wrong?”

I always said he's the guy you want to marry. Well, Michelle, it's better than the honey maker. Right. His ex-wife, um, Katie is now engaged to a singer from sleeping with sirens, which is a band. My kids love. I don't know who that is. Still listen to them to this day. So she is, do they have like popular songs? Yes, they do. She's going to hot guitarist and the band's maybe go. Yeah. And he's like, you know, they're on tour and she goes with them and she's got a big

ol' fat diamond ring on her hand and, you know, she is, she's an artist. So she's more for her. I know. I know. Katie, see, there's life after divorce guys. There is. There really is. You know, you could find somebody who might have been right for you at the time, but, but you don't have to stay with them because you grow in separate ways. Right. Just do it peacefully. Yeah. Be human about it. Let's get into the lacy of it all. So it ends, this episode ends,

with a lacy coming to the sip and see. So we finally get to say her name. Let's all say it lacy, lacy. Michelle wants, now I don't want to say it. I know Michelle wants nothing to do with lacy who evidently spends half of the week with her daughter. Now, Lacy lives in Orange County. He lives in LA. How is like, did they move in together? We don't know. Like, I think they moved in together. Oh, they did. How else would they be able to spend half the week with his daughter?

Well, I just felt like it was an exaggeration. No, they have that custody. He gets the gets her half the week. She gets her half the week, right, or however that works. Well, I guess Lacy and and Jessie are, like, either living together or spending a lot of time together. So here's me.

Here's me. And here's what I'm going to have to say. And I don't really care who likes it,

or who thinks anything of it. If someone's going to have my kid a lot of time, I'm going to kiss their fucking ass. I'm going to be that they're fucking friends. I would want to get to know them. Let's get to know each other. I'm going to let, if you're putting an olive branch out to me,

“if you want to be friends with me every to any time you want to do that and I get the chance”

to get a little closer to someone who's around my kid, I'm going to eat a mile of shit and I'm going to do it. And you know what? Sorry. If you don't cut, if you can't do that, I understand. If you're not capable, if the other person isn't willing to do that, or if you don't like that other person so much, I am not blaming you. I'm just talking about what I did. What I'm done. Right. Well, before Lacy goes over on Talks to Michelle, we see Lala talking to Luke and

telling him that my mom said, my daughter is so sad. He looks like you. And then she finds out, Luke donated sperm and college to the same sperm bank that Lala used. Do they? How long do they keep the sperm? I don't know. That's a long time ago, Lacy. Unless he has to check it every time. Unless he's going every, you know, like getting paid to donated sperm. This is what fixed me out. Why was he donating his sperm at 20 years old? Really donated? You sell it. Money. You're going to

donate. Like no, you don't do that. I'm saying, pay the jerk off. No, then you have like 50 kids out there. When you're in college and you're not thinking of going to work at Burger King. When you're in college, when you're in college, I think you're sperm pays more than Burger King. And in your young kid, you're like, hey, I can make some money for jerking off. And his friends are probably all telling him to do it. Oh, my God. Could you imagine if, I mean, do you think there's

a paternity test in the works? Oh, well, I think there has to be. If the kid looks, if Lala's mom thinks that's so sa. Oh, 14, 95, 1,495 dollars for sperm in California. That's a month's pay at Burger King. Oh, my God. One score and you get almost $1,500? You know, how many people? They should put a cap on

“how many times somebody's allowed to go. I'm going to go put any to work. You have to have more”

than 10 million active live sperm. Well, not for nothing, not for nothing, but when you're

like had like, they found like 200 kids of his family. I know. Like the sperm bank needs to keep

“an iron. There's a documentary about that. And that's why I'm so grossed out about it. So,”

I mean, could you imagine? Could you imagine? Oh, by the way, this is your daughter? I would say. I don't know. Well, let's, let's move on to Lacy. Does that mean he has to pay? Does that mean? It's going to be a child's board? I don't think so. Are there kids going to be friends? No, I, now I need to know all of this. So, Lacy decides she's going to go walk over to Michelle and say, hi, now this is pretty ballsy from a girl that didn't even want her face shown last season.

And now she's like, I'm going to go walk over to your X-Wife. What made her come on this season?

I don't know, not only what made her come on, but what is making her want to be

“front and center as well. I want to have seen and going up to her. Is it because Michelle was single?”

And she don't want single Michelle around. So, I don't know. But so, we did see last year's flashback. And they couldn't use it last year because she didn't sign a release. So, we see it. And it looks like she's showing up at the end of a party this season finale. Michelle said Lacy was crazy. However, when the flashback comes on, Michelle was the crazy one. She was the one screaming and yelling, get out, get out. We don't know what happened before that, right? We don't know what the build-up

was for that before that. But listen, you know, my advice is Michelle and Jessie's daughter has been through a lot of fighting. A lot of back and forth. She's young. It's the most formidable years of her life. There's still time to turn this around. If there's a chance for a piece. Right. Give it a try. Yeah. I mean, Lacy seemed very sweet going up to Michelle. And, you know, she's like, yeah, you know, I hope that you guys have like a peaceful, to force like all soft

spoken and sweet. And you can tell Michelle's like, get the fuck out of my face. Get them feel that way. Yeah. Thanks. And, you know, but overall, I thought it was a great great great. I love it. I know what it is. I have grown to love all of the cast. Yeah. And when I saw them, they're so cute and so nice that I'm still going to call you out if you do something wrong

“guys right now. I will tell you that. I think it just feels like home with Lala and Schwartz”

on the show. It does. It feels like home. Do you think that they should bring in any other Vanderpump rolls people? Of course. Yeah. Like, um, will they try to bring in? She, you know, what happened with sheena? Something happened. I don't know what the actual truth is. I don't know if she backed out of her negotiation or whatever, but she will not be on this season from when I thought I would have liked to have seen her. But hey, for now we have, we have Lala and Schwartz.

We're good. Yeah. I can't even remember who else was on. It seems so long ago. You know, my thing is sheena, Lala, Katie, right? Katie needs shit now. She's on tour for life. Yeah. What a score. Good for you, Katie. Anyway. Do you think there's a a possibility that jacks and sand of all will be back on TV? No. No. No. NBC has been getting too much shit, especially with the whole, uh, they're, they're, they're, sheying away from

really, I feel like horrible people, like really, yeah, to the core, disrespeckful. I, I think the James Kennedy, James Kennedy, I haven't heard anything about him. No, I don't know, I don't know. You want him to step his girlfriend out of hotel was what the report said. Yeah. Well, I come and back witness my own. Yeah. Okay. Well, no. I don't want to see that. Do I want to see that? Nope. I'm good with these people and I'm good with what I see. And I'm

happy, and I'm looking forward to the season. Yeah. Congratulations to the cast and

Alex Basquin for just producing an amazing show. It really is good. Good job, guys. Yeah.

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