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♪ Could this have happened in City Hall ♪

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on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. (upbeat music) Two T's in a pod, with Teddy Melanchaz and Tamara Judge.

(upbeat music) Hi guys, welcome to another episode of Two T's in a pod, and I'm so excited because I have two people with me today, Tamara and Dolores. - Hi, are you guys so excited, did you love it?

- Love it, love it, oh my God, I'm absolutely obsessed. I was with one of my employees yesterday for Vina, and she's like, you know I grew up on Rhode Island?

“- And I'm like, oh, you have to watch that.”

- Oh, she's like, Harley knows these people. - She's where I told her, I see you for your mom, probably knows most of these people. She goes to everybody knows everybody in Rhode Island. She does know Ashley's husband, Jared.

- Okay. - They moved there for Jared, because Jared's from there. - Jared, Jared grew up there. Did you ever go to that coffee shop? - I didn't, now, no.

You wanna hear how smart I am? - Yes, I didn't realize that Rhode Island was an island. (laughing) - I don't think it is an island. - It's a state, it's not an island.

- But then why were they near bodies of water? - Well, because it's right on the coast. - It's attached, so it's not an island. It's attached. Actually, you know, Ireland is an island.

- Is it a peninsula? - Is that one of the touched on one side? - Yeah, I don't wanna sound like the girls trying to describe Fourth of July, so I'm gonna shut up now.

(laughing) - It's not an island though, I looked it up. - You did, you look at everything. - It's a city. - I wanna know, so let me ask you a question.

So if it's an island, it can't be a state. - It's such, this is what R.I.R. people are saying. No, the state of Rhode Island is not an island. It's a US state located on the mainland in New England. Still don't know what that means.

- Is it why it's a state? - Beautiful. - Who is a state, it's an island?

“- I think Hawaii is an island because it's surrounded by water.”

- It's also a state, but that's when it confuses me when it says no, it's not an island, it's a state. - It was made a state later. I don't give a shit what year it was made a state. It's still a state.

(laughing) And island can be a country. So I don't like when things are not consistent. Same with Alaska, but an island can be a country. - Wait, Alaska's an island?

- Who would want to be on such a cold island?

- No, but I can tell you, my idea of an island is it's not attached to another state, like another country. - Another country, but like I grew up on an island. - The island is an island, is an island.

“- But you have to go over French to get there.”

It's not exactly to me, that's an island. So that's all I need to know. Is an island, it's by itself, let's make it easy. Is Balboa an island? Was Balboa.

Balboa in Newport, it's called Balboa Island. You have to take a ferry to get to it. Then it's an island, yeah, yeah. - So just because you can't take a ferry to any place in Rhode Island, it means it's not an island.

- Block islands is another one, big one. - We're gonna get praised for our intellectual smarts after this. - Okay, so bitches, bitches, they put up this whole, like Instagram post about how the girls know each other.

Can you break it down for us? Me, I totally can. So the two top girls are Alicia and Liz, okay? They knew each other, will Alicia, Liz's sisters was best friends with Alicia's sister.

So actually Liz was there when Alicia was born. There's a big age difference. Then you have Joellen went to high school with Alicia. So Joellen can tell you that Alicia was the most popular girl in high school.

Alicia also made her confirmation with Joellen's husband. These people have known each other forever and I love that about a cast. - Can I ask you a question really quick?

- Yeah, yeah. - To me, Alicia looks significantly older than Joellen. Am I correct?

“Was she like a freshman high school when she was a senior?”

- Or, okay. - Yes, exactly, exactly, that's the case. Then you have Kelsey and Joellen are closer on age. They were friends since middle school. - Okay.

- Rosie, now we get to Rosie, who's not from Rhode Island. - She is new. - Joellen is Alicia's the same age as Joellen's husband. Joellen's a little younger than Alicia

and she is closer with Chelsea in age and they were in school together. - So, Rosie now comes on later on onto the cast. She lived in Boston, which is close.

Very close. - Very close. They kind of interject each other all the time. I met Rosie doing an appearance at Taco Logo. So, Rosie's a new cast, newscaster.

She's married to a performer. He sings Frank Sinatra. He does not wanna call, be called an impersonator. Nice guy, Richie's a nice guy. Now, we're going over to Ashley

who bonded with Rosie over boy bands.

They have never missed a, some concert.

They go to all these boy bands and have an, any one has brothers. The Jonas Brothers, they are obsessed, obsessed. All right, I'm not a boy band person. They didn't come from that,

but they like live for boy bands. They could talk about them all the time. - And the day is the channel. - And absolutely the Disney channel. Then we can go to Rula.

Rula and Liz have known each other through the voting world.

“I believe Rula is the only female vote captain,”

licensed holder in Rhode Island. She's a finance year. She works for a big finance firm. And yeah, oh, you didn't meet her yet. She's coming soon, but I can tell you.

- She's gonna go through it. - She's like, she's getting the ramrod in this season of all ramrods that you've ever seen on how sweet we see you in the first episode, which was amazing.

Fill me in it and then watching the first episode, your overall thoughts of the premiere. - So filming it, to be honest, I wanted to be so much more in involved. - Yeah.

- And involved. And I was very behind the scenes. I would hang out with the girls. Liz is one of my very, very best friends.

And I knew what was going on always.

And then after being upset that I wasn't a part of everything so much 'cause I am involved, you'll see me have heard through the season. They really wanted the girls to make their own way, right? But they wanted me a part of it.

Which I now agree with. And I think next season, hopefully if I could come back, it would be different. - Because what's going on? - You're not going back.

- We're going to be filming at the same time.

“- I've never seen a house where I've been on two different shows.”

- So what's wrong with it? - I don't think there's a lot of things to be done with that.

- You're gonna be the first one.

- Okay, I was, yeah. - I don't think it's a great idea. - Yeah, film a full season. You forget what it's like full time, yeah, talk about it. - And then be like, oh, I love Rhode Island.

- Me, I had a beautiful house. Me and Paul, a clean, we went for walks, we walked in the old River. - Would you ever move their towns? - No, I don't leave New Jersey.

- My family is there. - I'll never leave them. - Yeah. - But I don't have a sense. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

- Do people like that you and Liz look alike? - Yeah, even my mother wants me to take a DNA test now, because my mom kept calling me and goes, "You look so good in that hat." I go, "It's not me, Mom."

Another scene. She's like, "Well, here, she's on the phone with me." She's like, "Here, you come, that's not me, Mom." (laughing) When your own mother can't tell you apart,

there's an issue there. - I know Eddie saw, I was watching him, he came in. He's like, "Wait a minute, Paul." - Well, I didn't fall, he aren't related. Because Liz and her husband

has been a very distant related. - But I want to know how distant they didn't tell us how far, they didn't say, "Are we fourth cousin, third cousin?" - I want to say something in the great, great, grandmother deal.

- I don't know. But that sounds like something to be on a shit right there. - Yeah. - Yeah. Well, guys, it starts off where Alicia's the first house

who I fully meet. We learned she's got a big Italian family in Rhode Island, and I'm fucking in love with her aunt's. They're so cool. - And Judy, I want to hang out with Aunt Judy,

and Judy is going to be, she's got to be a bartender I'm watching happens live. Drinking out of the flask in the back of the car just gave me life. - I think it was in that flask.

- I would assume that girl was. - Well, I would assume alcohol too, but it's what warm alcohol is she drinking midday on the way to whiskey, who knows? (laughing)

Who knows? - Here's the thing. - I wouldn't want to go up against them as a family. - No. - They will stick together, they'll bring it down.

- Yeah, they're thickest thieves. - Stick to thieves. - But I like them. I enjoyed them, I like them. There's nothing like a big Italian family.

I come from that, so I wouldn't trade it for anything.

“- Why do you think they've been engaged for nine years?”

- Yeah, obviously everyone is pushing them to get married, even her aunt asked Billy to bang Alicia against the wall. (laughing) - Yeah, I think her mother said her mother said that. - Every girl is so warm.

- Oh, it's her mom that said that?

- Yeah, that was her mom, which my mom would never say

that will be a difference between my family and hers. My mom would never say such a thing. But it's funny, nonetheless, my mother probably would be upset if I wasn't married by now. I don't know, I mean, that's on Billy

and that's on Alicia to be okay with it. - Does she want, does she okay with it? She never, she's never like really asked. You'll see through the season. - They have a kid, they have a house,

they have a girly pizza rhea with her face on it. - But maybe they're happy the way they are and they're like gold these on it. And they don't want to screw things up. - Say it though.

- Because it appears that everybody else that is married on that show, someone's treating. - Well, here's the thing, Teddy. She's very well tapped. She is taking care of like a child.

She doesn't drive on the highway. She doesn't have to do anything. He handles everything. She's a great mother. She's a good wife of, you know, partner.

She's a great partner. And she's happy the way her life is.

So she is never pushed for more

because in her eyes she has everything that she wants. Does she have a ring on? She wear a ring. - Yes, yes. - Beautiful ring.

“But I think that Alicia will come into herself”

and start questioning things that she did in before. - Yes. - The natural order of hanging out with other women. - It's trouble. - Other women that are gonna push you

and make you feel like what you're doing is wrong. - Correct. Or it's gonna bite you in the ass or, you know, what we would say to her if we sat down with her. - Yeah.

And then Liz, who could pass as your twin, we know. She runs a cannabis business with her husband. So that's kind of they seem, they seem like a good, a good, connected group. But I think they come in play later as well

as some drama, correct? - No, we'll be later. - We'll be sooner than later that this will come to fruition. But they have a very, very strong marriage.

Liz is a solid, loyal, kind, generous person. If you say, like I have to remember not to tell her, I like something she's wearing 'cause it'll be at my door the next day or she takes it off her back.

- She's, I love that. - Tamara, she's such a good friend

which we'll get to, she sticks up for Kelsey. And, you know, Kelsey's holding her own but she starts to say to you like

“when people talk about your life, like she's a friend.”

Liz is a friend, I love it. Her husband has to be a good guy because this very first scene is cleaning cat-ship shit up off the carpet. - Well, Paul said the other day, we're very close with them.

And Paul said he mentioned a few people that if he was in trouble with something, he'd want next to him, like in a barfighter, or whatever, he said, he said, Jerry first. - Oh, they seem like a cool couple.

Now, Liz, I love when she said I'm very scary. I'm scary. I'm like, I mean, you can get along. She's scary, like me. - Well, like you, she will call out, Paul's shit.

- Mm-hmm. - And I think the way she delivers it and the way people take it, make for very good TV. - Yeah.

- Well, you know, you can't help but love her, which she sometimes questions. - She's great to invite me. - She's like, she's like, how I am. Like, what are people gonna say?

I go first of all, what do you care about? You can't care what people think of you, biggest mistake, but you'll get through it. - I don't think she'll care. I think like the comment section she'll be like,

fuck off, I don't care. - She doesn't mind telling us that she's related to her husband. I don't think she cares about her husband. - I think they're like her one kid, his kid was even

fully in the car and she's taken off. I'm like, yes. - Yes. - Very honest.

Very, all of these girls gave 100,000 percent.

There were times I overheard a producer one day 'cause I was there a lot. You won't see me a lot. You won't see me talking a lot when even when I did, but I heard one of the producers

whispered to the other producer and goes, do they fucking know there's cameras up?

“- Like, that's how, that's a good thing.”

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“- So besides Liz, I think Kelsey is gonna be very interesting”

because apparently her wealthy boyfriend kind of has multiple girlfriends. Why? I mean, that's a big thing to put out on national TV

to say that you're basically a kept woman

from a very wealthy fan for 18. - That you're eight, yeah, well, you know who it is. - Yeah, John M. Caprio, you know who his father was. - He was a judge, wasn't he? - Yeah, the father was that famous judge,

which my favorite thing that he did, there was an old man that got it to take it, 'cause he was speeding to get his handicap son to the doctors and his wife died. He's like 80s, this man he starts crying.

He goes, "Sorry, I was bringing my son, "special needs son to the doctors and the judges, "like you served our country, didn't he?" And he goes, "Yes." And he goes, "Well, thank you for your service."

And he doesn't give the guy a ticket.

And that's a lot of the things that this guy's father did.

He was a hero in Rhode Island. We were filming when he had passed, they had a big memorial for him in the state house. It was crazy. - I went down in his Instagram and it's,

if there's not that many posts, but they're all about his dad. - Oh, his dad was a gem, a real gem. - So I'm taking a post, taking turns of where it's girlfriend to post. - There's lots of things.

He can post a fucking dog for all I know. - But are we gonna see him at all? Do we see him at all this season? 'Cause as of now, he doesn't want any part of it, but I will tell you this.

There's a lot of that sugar daddy stuff going on in Rhode Island. It is the girls there. They remind me of 1988 sick family high school. They want to rich her guys, older men. Listen, if you're an older rich man,

looking for a young girl, go to Rhode Island. I'm actually looking a flight right now. (laughing) - But what we're seeing right now is maybe that was okay for her when she was younger.

But now what is she 30, 31, 32? - 32, I believe.

“- Now I think she's thinking, I want a husband.”

I want kids, I want a traditional family 'cause she seems a little bit bothered by it. - So what Kelsey doesn't understand is, yeah, the flowers are nice, but the Chanel bag is great. - I get it, I grew up for our kitchen, 79 TVs.

- They're not yours though, right? It's like another day, you're gonna have to pick up and leave all of that and you have not one stake in it. - Now one stake, you've given your youth and that Chanel bag when you go to sell it

because you need money to pay your bills, you're not gonna get even what you pay for it. So this is all nice when you're 18 years old and you got the rich guy that everybody wants and you think, but you know, it's time for her to go.

Definitely time for her to go before it's too late. - Have you met the boyfriend? I haven't. - And so he's one of the, comes from one of the rich's families. How are they that wealthy if the dad was a judge?

“- Well, do you know how much judges would he's worth?”

- Well, she's a TV judge, but so was the dad. - Judges make that kind of money? - No, I don't know what else they do. I don't know what he does for a living. - 'Cause it sounds like, we're talking billions.

We're not talking millions, we're talking billions.

no, there's very few billionaires in this world

and he is not a billionaire.

“- Well, I think that's what we have to remember.”

- Remember this is Rhode Island, not Los Angeles. So you can get more bang for your buck in Rhode Island. - I know. - I know, I know. - Oh, I know. - Oh, I know. - I heard tell us what's our lives there.

- Yeah, Taylor Swift's getting married there. - The Kennedy's live there, the Vanderbilt's. - Yeah, this is very rich area. - I, yeah. - That house you saw was not in like the most popular

part of Rhode Island Rhode Island is very small. Was on the water. I think it was on the market for three million. The one you stayed in, the rental was 20,000 a month. - Yeah.

Now that the boyfriend, she gave enough information about the boyfriend that it was very easy to figure out. - To be honest, yeah. - So how is he, how do you think he's gonna deal with, not showing his faith on TV, but everybody's gonna know who he is

and everyone's gonna start talking.

I think there's always a part, first of all,

everybody talks, everybody knows his business and everybody knows how he lives because that's Rhode Island. And he's very public about the way he lives clearly. - Yeah. - And he's a super fan of housewives. - Well, there you go.

So he wanted to, you know, he would say, maybe he wanted to, maybe he wanted to do with cutlessly grammar kind of did with Camille. Like, got her on the show, got her there, so she could spread her way to her side, love her.

- Yeah, this is your send-off. - Now you've got your own little money and you can, piece out.

“- Well, I think that, I don't think money”

has her money or what she's gonna make is gonna be a thing that's not gonna, but I think that, I think a part of him wanted to be a part of it. - Yeah.

- You know, that's what I think. - So Joe Allen is working, is that working mom, who's also seems to be the egg girl in the group. Do you think that she's the egg girl? How do you describe Joe Allen?

- I like her, she's my favorite. - Really, Teddy, so-- - Yeah, favorite. - You're, she, no, holds barred. - She's a proclaimed big mouth, you know what?

Is long as she always owns it, and you know what else?

She said, if somebody asks me, if I said something, I'm gonna go, yes, you want the details of how I did it, and she stands true to that, I've seen her. - Yeah. - I mean, we watched her in the first episode.

- No, she's like, I'll tell you exactly, and if you don't know what else I said, I'm happy to tell you. And how many people should we say for that? I thought she was a good friend in that first episode,

when everyone's lurking around, trying to figure out the information about Kelsey, and she's like, not having it. She's like, you're gonna have to ask Kelsey directly. - Yeah, because I don't think she did anything wrong

by talking about that. At the lunch, she did not disparage her at all, and then fast forward when Kelsey questions Rosie which we'll get to, she goes, well, you know, Joelle and brought it up.

And you know how it is, like when you hear somebody did something, but you didn't see what they did. Joelle and didn't do anything wrong in that scene. - Yeah. - But yeah, Kelsey kind of thought she did, right?

Because of the way it was presented to her.

“- You know, you have to, you have to know,”

and then like, I mean, I guess I get it, but if somebody ever said I did something like that, think about my, you know, what I really usually do before you blame me for that. - No, this isn't him up.

- Yeah, Liz and Joelle, both call themselves scary. Who do you think is scarier? - Oh, Joelle. - Really? - Oh wow.

- So I would have thought Liz, Liz is not. Liz is just not, like she just, - No bullshit. - She's just no bullshit. Why is that scary?

- That's scary. - It's scary. - Ask my cast. - Well, that's what I mean to her, but like, that's not scary to me.

Scary to me is somebody bringing out your business that she hears, that's scary to me. - Yeah. - And then that happened. - And not even feeling bad about it.

- And not even feeling bad about it. Just being like, I don't know why but Joelle and also gives me like, Mormon wife slash sister wives all in one, like the way that she,

- But she looks kind of like she could fit in there, right? - Yeah. - She's pretty. - Joelle, I was pretty girl. I like her, like I said, I like her. I like them all.

I really, really do. - Who do you like, Liz? - Who do I like, least? - Not likely, but who did you connect with the list? - I probably didn't connect with Rosie as much

She's like, sometimes you're walking around,

“she doesn't say hello, and then she's like,”

but I'm shy, but then I see she's not. So like, I don't, she, she was a little standoff and shut times, Rosie. And that's me, I don't know, I'm not used to that. - How do you think she's not sure?

- How do you think Ashley fits in? - Oh, she, she's like, so sweet. - So sweet, comedic relief a lot of time. - Oh good, the softness they need to sometimes cushion the craziness of what's going on.

- 'Cause we've seen her a couple of times do that almost break the fourth wall thing by like who wants to stop fighting and just have fun. I know that as you go on in a show, like nobody wants to hear that.

No, especially the producer. - Yeah, but they love her, the producer's love her. - Oh good, no, what I didn't love seeing all of her nails being taken off at the coffee shop. - I did that all the time.

- You take your nails off at the coffee shop and put it on the counter? - No, it's usually at a restaurant if I've had a drink and I had a shelf on. Under the table, I'll pick my, I'll peel my gels off.

It's a horrible habit to do. Only when I've had a drink, they shouldn't be lifting. Can I, can I make a, this is just gel on my regular nails. I have acrylics right now. - Can I make a confession?

- Yes, they're gonna fucking die. - But what did you do? - My feet have been really itchy. And I'm like mother fucker, like I'm waking up. And it's driving me crazy.

I thought I, I thought I like, what is this? Do I have to beat it?

“Like I, 'cause who would ever think athlete's feet?”

I don't walk around the gym with no shoes on or go outside with no shoes on. - Then I realized I got a pedicure. (gasps) So, I, I went to doctor Brian. Rula's husband on the show.

And I'm like, I'm like, pull. Take a picture of the bottom of my feet. And I'm like, googling everything. I said, I think I fucking have athlete's feet.

I never had to send my life.

And he goes, well, you're gonna, like, hate to like it. Like this guy. And he's like, it's really not the fault of the, of the, you know, the fungus gets in the vents. Of the, the pipes.

Even if they clean the thing out, are you gonna throw up, Tony? Even if they clean up the shit, even if they clean out the footpath thing, it's still in the thing that pushes the water out.

Yeah, yeah. I got fungus. Tofu fungus from going to get my pedicure. I don't know. I have a bloody cuticle right now,

just 'cause I'm nervous and I'm just gonna, oh, don't do that. I always, I always, that's another thing that I always do. It's like, I'm so busy. I have a second time job and it's taking this.

Yeah. And it's gonna hurt. I do that in Sofia does that. Oh, he's like, Rosie is my least favorite too. I don't know if it's 'cause she has a pink Jeep?

I love the pink Jeep, I love the pink Jeep. I love it. I'd want that Jeep, I'd ride it all over town. No, okay, fine, I want you to get rid of your black brain drover and get a pink Jeep.

No, it would be an addition. I would get a pink Ferrari, oh. Oh, yes, I would. I wouldn't, I wouldn't ride that. Yeah, you would.

Who has a purple Rolls Royce around here? Is it cocoa, ice cheese, wife? Probably. It's like lavender, right? She's so nice.

Oh my god, I love that girl. Did you notice we meet Rosie, but we don't meet her at her house. Everybody kind of gets introduced at their house. We see their kids.

We see their husband. We see the family. You'll get there. Oh, you're going to meet Rosie at her house. Yeah, Rosie, her initial launch into the show

was her pink Jeep wearing a love check fancy tennis dress. Probably wasn't love check fancy. Let's see, that's, I love the Dolores shade, but without really saying it. She's saying she doesn't have money.

Me? No, I didn't say that. I'm saying you don't have to have money. To like what the person is wearing. I'm saying that, I don't think she's a Spender. Yeah.

Well, I mean, she clearly didn't spend on her gift,

like the first time she brought the champagne.

“I think that she doesn't spend on expensive things.”

I think, but her husband won't come here. You'll get the money. I don't think she's smart. I don't think Rosie's a Spendrift. Oh, yeah.

Sometimes I really like her, and then sometimes I'm like, I just just turned her back on me when I walked in the room. Why did you do that? Like that bothers me.

Now her husband's that I like her. Yeah, her husband's the Frank Sinatra singer, right?

And they've only been married for like a year,

so they have no kids. She doesn't want, I believe she's one of the, coming attractions that she, he was like, you know, I'd like maybe for us to have kids,

“and she goes, well, you should have thought about that.”

You should have this conversation before we got married. I don't think she wants kids. She just wants to work. Yeah. But according to Joelle and only 251 people

watch her show, and then she was bummed that she even gave an additional viewing. (both laughing) She's a woman, and now it's 253. She's funny.

Now there was talk that Joelle might be a swinger. No, I thought, no, because you know why, I think, if she was, she'd tell you. Yeah, I mean, she did put her finger down and she said that, have you ever had a three-sum?

She did, but Joelle is definitely gonna tell you. What should, what could you do? These girls already know, if you admit it, they're, you know, whatever. Yeah.

But I think at this first picnic,

we see how much Rosie wants to bring up Kelsey. Like, she's like a dog with a bone with this one. Yeah, she wants to expose her to be being a polygamist. And so Joelle and finally, she politely tries to say that you're gonna have to ask her like 10 times.

And finally, yeah, then finally, she had to give her a little slap on the wrist and be like, you're done. We're not talking about her anymore.

“But you have to understand, but then, you know,”

but then Rosie makes it look like Joelle and was the one that was doing it. Yeah. And Kelsey didn't know where it was coming from. She wasn't there, what would she know?

And it's not like it would be Joelle not Joelle and to talk about something. Yeah, but Joelle and actually, is she the big mouth of the group? Joelle and absolutely.

Yeah. Isn't she the one that says later on, like, I don't keep, don't tell me a secret to keep it. Yeah, I don't.

Oh, my friends and tell them not to say anything. If they say something, it's on them. That's exactly what she says on there. She goes, I tell my two best friends. And then if they want to share it with somebody,

that's on them. Maybe she tells a few more people than her two best friends. But you know what? I can't fault that.

Well, I got it. And I don't fault as she for bringing and dunking donuts to the girls either. Not her own coffee? Oh, that would have been good.

That would have been, we would have got a little signage there. But don't let she put her nails off at the coffee place after her. So we'll pass on the, yeah.

See what, see now, she brings Dunkin' donuts. No one complained that she brought the Dunkin' donuts. But they said when she, but Joelle and Seth-- Because they're all on his epic. They're all on every one of them, except Ashley.

Yeah.

Maybe not Rosie Rosie always is thin.

She's got a good body. Even the skinny ones are. Yeah, they talk about it. Yeah? No one needs money.

That's not fun for me. Oh, Rosie, too? OK. Well, why not? So they have this coffee shop.

Audrey's, I think, it's called. And I had Ashley on the pod when we were at-- Yeah, I heard it's okay. And so we started talking, because she's like, it's not a money maker.

And I'm like, girl, I hear you. I had a brick and mortar for 10 years. It's like, it's a hard business. And so she doesn't she say, we're influencers. Her and Gerard are influencers.

They more money doing that. So I spoke to Ashley early on. She was having a rough time, right? She was crying. She was crying.

But she was crying the entire time of bathroom and paradise. The bathroom and all. She told me she told me she's just a cryer. She's just a cryer.

I need to-- I want you, because I am someone who can't cry, even if I want to. And I need to know more about that. Like I need to study that. I'm intrigued.

I'm intrigued.

“I think it's because she's got a sister that's”

very close and aged. Both parents are together. It's like this very close knit family. And they've all created this comfort zone of being able to cry when they don't get their way

or something upset that way. Oh, it's a crying family. Yes. Oh, fuck that. The sister cries to me.

Give me the ant with the flask. I can't. Yeah. No. Another no is a six dollar bottle of wine.

No. No. No. Anyway, that's really funny. That's really funny.

But you can kind of already see the writing on the wall with these two, because they're at the coffee shop.

He couldn't have asked one of the other people

to work in the coffee shop to take over the register for three minutes, so they could have a conversation without him being like, Alice, you can have her. You think that's part of owning your own business. That's not really making a lot of money.

You've got to work your fucking ass off. How does it work?

“Do you think maybe he doesn't want to have a conversation?”

Oh, is that what it does? Do you think maybe? I mean, he seems like the nicest guy. Like, they're a really nice couple. And he's not new to reality TV.

There's no ability with signing up for it. Salt to the earth people. That's what they are. So I think she had a hard time with a lot of the stuff. But she came into herself.

She came into herself more than I expected her to through all this. Because I said to her, basically, she's like, she's like, this is a lot. And I'm like, you have two kids. You've got two kids.

You know what? Ashley. The reality. But I make a lot, I make a lot of money. She's like, I make a lot of money as an influence.

I don't know if this is going to happen.

If you're going to make more with your 1.2 million followers.

Yeah. So like, honestly, don't tell me you don't need money. You do. Yeah. You need money.

“Because you want to be crying so much about watching your kids all the time if you”

had more help. I don't know. All right. She was like, I don't know. She was very sweet.

I go, I go, let's talk in six weeks. Let me see your tune will change after you watch who people say about you and how the show works. And I think she's going to be good. I mean, well, I feel like picking on Ashley or saying anything bad about her would

be like kicking a puppy. Right. Exactly. She's so sweet. So sweet.

Well, you know what? The best part of the show comes up next. And that's we get to see our girl. God, thank you. You have entered the chat.

You did on those fall down the stairs at one point. It was the Zach house was a big hill that went like this. I had on my wedges, you know, it was a backyard party. They cut out so much of that party. Did they?

We had a big, the guys were funny together. There was a tug of war contest. Joallon's boobs were like her dress was literally pat down past her waist. Why would you cut that out? - I don't know, but they had time to show the caviar winners.

- Yeah, which I didn't need to see, to be honest. - You know who's caviar that was? - Meredith Marks. - Meredith Marks. - Oh, man. - Ooh, good. - That was the first time you met the girls

or had you met, I met Rose. - I met Rose. - So I met Rosie and Boston. - I knew Liz and those are the only people that I had known. - I have a question. Liz admits that she used your plastic surgeon and your dentist.

“Did Liz look like you before she went to your surgeon?”

- Oh, yeah, we have pictures before she went to my surgeon. - You guys still look like you guys look like, yeah, before. - Okay. - What else I've ever noticed? - I was gonna say stalker, she's trying to look like you.

- Yeah, no, wasn't that at all. - Not until this party did I notice that Pauli has a little king tattoo, it's a little crown on his neck. - For his dad, really?

- Mm-hmm.

- Oh my gosh, have I never noticed it?

I guess I've never done that close up of the side of his face. - I don't, yeah, yep, he has the worst tattoos I ever saw in my life. (laughing) He's a gacko or some type of lizard on his arm.

And he's got like some smudge of ink here that says lucky or something on it. He has a Arabic saying that's just random shit. Fucking lovely.

- Not right. - It's actually, every Arabic person that goes to read that they're like, oh, he's got Chinese writing on his arm. - I was just gonna say, it's right there. - Chinese writing, people got put on like 10 years,

20 years ago, they were getting all those Chinese writing. - He got like some names in Brooklyn and Cameron and written. That, that when we go for Chinese, they get, they're able to read, but. - If he has a tramp stamp,

we're gonna have to have another conversation. - He doesn't have a tramp stamp, but I mean, I've asked him to please remove the lizard. (laughing) - You can get that shit laser'd off.

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“- Does that work with the boyfriend, the rich boyfriend?”

- Yeah, 'cause the rich boyfriend lives with his other girlfriend. - Yeah, no, that doesn't mean, yeah, it's okay for me not okay for you. - You know, when he's paying and then he's got the Eskidol and he's paying for his stuff,

doesn't mean you're allowed to go. So I'm not gonna pay for you. - Those kind of boyfriends are not trolling. - I'm not gonna pay for you to go drive your new boyfriend around in the car, I pay for.

Like, this is a lot of Italian, like, not mock. Like, this is like the Italian mentality. They call it, you keep house. Like, if you're keeping house for the girl, that means you're not bringing over anybody else.

Whatever, I don't know if that's the case. I, I don't know, I think that I think that we're going to see a nice transition with Kelsey, but I still think she belongs on summer house. - Summer house, 100%.

What did you really think about Rosie's firework? Okay. - I don't know what's gonna say. I thought it was nice. - I loved her firework, okay.

I told you, sometimes I really like Rosie and then sometimes she gives off an energy to me and I don't know where it's coming from.

“- Did you ever watch, did you ever watch Love is Blind?”

- No. - So there was a girl love is blind. - Yes, she looks like Megan Fox but that she didn't look like Megan Fox and then she came out and it was all over the news

like before all this summer house drama and Taylor, Frankie Paul, drama happened. And she's, it's really been pushed down then. - Yeah, it's really been pushed down to the gutter but like they kind of remind me of each other.

I think it's the voice, like very sing-songy. - I think that Rosie looks like Katy Perry. - Really?

- When she first started, not now.

- I'm gonna have to do some research on that. - I gotta look. - I've gotta be, I'm looking. - But I thought her, I thought her bokeh gift was a nice gift, I mean it was for the July.

- I loved it. - You know, it was cute. It wasn't supposed to be some, but then what I did at the top, Jo Ellen have to say, it was so bad. I mean you're coming to it.

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I hope they never learn not to show who they are on camera.

I hope they never get involved with trolls and I hope they stay who they are throughout their career because it's off to a good start. So, I wanna know your predictions. What do you think?

As far as what? - It's gonna be good, who's gonna be bad. - But who's like the standout?

“- I think we're gonna get the most storyline from,”

I think Jo Ellen's gonna stir the pot beyond like anything you've ever seen. And how about that? I think we're gonna see Kelsey go through like a major midlife, well, pre-medlife change.

I think Rolls is gonna come in and it's gonna be a lot with her. - Mm-hmm. - And I think everybody gives good TV. - Everyone gives good TV.

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- We use it in a different context.

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