Even if it's not something gross, I honestly don't know how much other pay me...
Like a spoon full of like yellow mustard. What would it take? I give you $5. No, you wouldn't do it for $5. No, no, no I would do it for free. I love mustard. I hate yellow mustard. You hate I don't we can't do the podcast Hello and welcome to the U.L. Podcast. I am Jared Fried and I am so excited to be here Where the are special guests Bob the drag queen. Thank you for being on the show
“Generate degeneration eggs suck it. Are you ex-pock are you?”
Oh, I triple-age. No, Shawn Michaels Shawn Michaels to me was me cheering music was your vibe. That's more The attitude. I would like to bring to the table. This will not shock you, but I was for the nation of domination Uh-huh obviously, of course, um, but outside of that my favorite wrestler was Mick Foley really
Mick always will Mick Foley is like this is always baby boy. Wow. Wow. This is I mean this for our audience
This is all Chinese. Yeah, they don't listen to me even this hat. I'll get a few people that are like Whoa, did generation X hat. I love that and then how old are you? I'm 40. What were they made? Yeah, yeah I've been hearing about you for years You're you're beloved. Oh, yeah, I would say you're beloved. I would say your name comes up people light up Do you feel that? Do you think that? Do you know that? What I do know that you do for people
I think that people who know me like me, but I'm but I'm still kind of niche niche fine Yeah, like when they know you love cuz I'm from I'm not from from the world of like reality TV and Cabaret and stand-up comedy, but I'm not like, you know Andrew Shawl's there's something he really big names out there who are like Someone who I would say is still kind of niche, but is actually a kind of like managing niche who'd be like Caleb here and okay Maybe Brittany broski right they have like millions and millions of followers
“But I think the drag some people just kind of hear the name of the drag queen and they're like immediately turned off”
So they don't want to give it a chance, but even people who do Because I ended up on a show they like like the traders right so because I'm on a show Like they they they they have to watch me they're like oh Bob is actually pretty you know funny or interesting It's funny to say that you you look at it and the terms of followers like cuz I I think you have a cash egg Like I think like if there's a you know
I heard this quote once I'm sure it's been said a million times difference between a following and an audience anyone can get an audience
Mm-hmm, you know following is different. You know like yeah, that's true. Yeah, so I think you have a a Follow, you know the drag queen thing. I I think anyone who's hyphenated with what they do feels that a little bit like You know, I do a podcast. I do stand up. I do you know I'm doing it almost 16 years. We're almost the exact same. It's all everything. That's crazy We've been just two ships. Yeah, in the night. I've been in a company for 17 years now
Really, yeah, what what would you start what it what was the first club? I was past that was Carolina's company I was past at the New York comedy club comics comedy club, which was two of those clothes
“I'm using this anymore. I've been thrown out of Gotham comedy club. How'd you get thrown out?”
I got thrown out because there was a confusion. I went to the like the young new artist's bit Bob Boop showdown Bit but whatever was yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and
And there was some confusion about with because I got past to like the second round
But not the third round, which was the showcase and they were like oh you got a Come back here and but then my name wasn't a list and I was on the list, but I was in full drag and they thought I was distracting I was got thrown out of Carolinas once. I got banned from Carolinas. When you're in full drag and doing stand up Is that like I do you think people just don't know how to handle that? Is that like I because stand up side listen I know this from walking into stand-up clubs. It's like there is a version of person that's doing stand up
That's like a little just like the sad, you know like looking at the floor and guy with a notebook Who's you know not dressed really well is like kind of like that's still me It's kind of just like fully just like you know sneaking in kind of and then you come in like You're like a parade flow, you know It's all and looking great if I'm doing my own show
I'll do it like in the early days that would get dressed and drag for every coming show I do not every coming show a lot of coming shows I would do but nowadays if I'm doing a foreign show I'm not gonna get in drag for but if I'm selling my tickets at like a big theater I will get in drag for that, but I'm not getting in drag to like do work stuff out. Yeah, I don't get in drags work stuff out I mean there might be people who dressed nicely though. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah, but I mean look at the shoes
I mean if you're on YouTube you got a chat. I know that these are unbelievably cute. I love them. They're great If you but if you this is there might be people watching on YouTube or listening right now going About the drag queen to stand up like I'm sure that frustrates you. Yeah Because it frustrates me if someone says to me like oh the guy who yells at the bachelor does stand up like
I like that's something I do where they go and I'm like that's like what it w...
I'm talking to me. I mean likely I can sell tickets, but when I was really
Optimized when I go to the comedy clubs and the people who own the clubs. They're like oh you're actually funny
“Right then I'm like right well people only know I think people generally people the general people can only”
Really a handle like one thing about someone like I really don't think you know John Madden the famous football coach He says people can remember three things. He only goes he goes I only tell people three things I only tell my team three things to do there's only three things and it's like it's kind of a good point It's the fence I remember Madden Madden 2000 yeah in 2001 all those yeah, that's With that right he did all three why didn't he get a video game it was I mean timing for a lot of these things
He was the guy he was the original one of the people in the NFL well he's a coach
So the coach knows the scheme so you I think that's like the the play where they're saying
Coach Madden is gonna coach you the audience if that was to be like the marketing he must have made more money from my game But he ever has any people still playing Madden right it's even a lot of people no he passed away There's movies coming out there's like movies about his life coming out I didn't I didn't watch football, but I know who John Madden there who's the guy in face off John Travolta in the cage Nick Cage is playing John Master Troy. I am yeah
Good movie it's a good movie. There's a lot of things. It's a fun laugh at this movie movie to be fair I haven't I watched it in over 15 years been a long time for me, but watching at the time I remember I watched it a lot I was really into that film big cable TV movie. Do you have a VCR right had the VHS? I don't have it. But at the time I had it Yeah, I know that movie if you think about it like for nobody to know
That like he has sex with his wife. Yeah, like that's a real weird scene
“Yeah, it's like laughing. Yeah, but also the only thing different is your face right”
So like you have the exact same dick as John Travolta right the wife didn't notice anything about the penis No, she liked it more actually, do you remember? Yeah that was well I wouldn't feel like there's performance more. Yeah, I think it was like like I think you could get away with harder than you've ever been Which I want to be clear I am acknowledging that there's a lot of nonsense going on involved in this dynamic But it was a movie to be clear. I didn't make the movie well. It's a movie made for entertainment
We all watched it. I'm just acknowledging what happened. But yeah, I do remember her being like wow You're I remember her vaguely being like that was the best you've ever been right well the kid was and it was kind of played as like the confidence Yeah, you know like it was like oh my god my you know my meek husband who's a police shot No, no now you've been with a real evil villain even his entire like if you think of a guy who has a similar bill to you Do you are you married to have a girlfriend? No, I'm a single man, but I feel like if let's say one of your one of your hookups
Okay, was looking up with the guy who has a very similar bill to you She's still with you. She's looking up with the tiff box and It's up when she's doesn't know there's a difference, right? I don't know. I think there's something to the voice and like I don't know It's like can you can I was fucking John Travolta and Nick Cage walked in Even at the lights right? I'm like something feels different here. I don't know how fair this comparison is but like is there
Like in drag are you with someone else in drag? Like when you're physical with someone in drag. Are you you're like when I'm fucking someone in drag?
Yeah, I would never fuck anyone in drag. No, no, I would think that's a part. No, that's for some people
No for some people it is a very okay. Well, I would think there wouldn't that be a difference in dick one time at the lucky
“Changes at the restaurant you still work at in drag. Lucky Changes. That's the name of it. Yeah, I remember that place”
Yeah, yeah, you could have got your dick stuck there if you wanted to The queens were doing it someone got lucky. Yeah, I did it one time and I was like that's how I was like you know A hook nipping drag is not for me. What's the difference? Well, what I'm not comfortable? Okay, so drag is just gluing stuff to your body right glued on a wig glued on lashes glued on now Glut on glitter you wearing a corset like you you're in heels my feet hurt
You know and I'm also wearing a lot of makeup so if I'm going down and you your dick so I'm gonna go like a fucking mudslide So it's gonna changes the whole thing changes the vibe for me. I wanted to ask you this because so when you when you came in as a As our guest host this week, we there was people that are like on traders you gave What's his name? Dylan Efron. Yeah a drag name Dylan Efron. Yeah, you gave him a drag name and then I was like I want a friend to make some sounds so makes a sound so fancy as a food. Dylan Efron
My good friend Efron. I mean I call him Efron, but I don't know how it's actually pronounced
I just say Dylan Efron.
I say South of France. South of France. Yeah, so fra. Yeah, so I and everyone should go follow Bob the drag queen Bob is in on Broadway
Which is like such an accomplishment. I think that's Broadway. How cool is that? You know, well, this is also what you get with being you know Like I think there's like there's there's good and bad, you know, to the the high finnation of it all and like you go to a stand-up club And so you're actually funny and you're like what a piece of shit and then someone else goes I could see him on Broadway
“You know, don't you think that goes and that's how I ended up in a lot of things. That's how I ended up in some movies and some TV shows”
Someone like I there was a famous writer named Tony Kushner He that names sounds so familiar. I mean he was he wrote the movie a Lincoln. Okay. He wrote the film Carolina change He wrote the the script for the new west side story. Okay, he wrote angels in America He's a very he wrote Carolina. He's a massive writer. He's a Pulitzer Prize winner all that all that jazz Tony award winning I think Oscar nominated maybe even Oscar winning writer and he saw him in drag race and he was like I bet you'd be
a good Actor in this in this play. I wrote, you know years ago You should audition so I ended up doing angels in America at the brick web tour theater, which I went to school for acting actually
Okay, but theater it wasn't that theater was my first love, but it was not reciprocal
Theater did not love me back the way that I loved it. But you feel you put I think a lot of stand-ups that Are so talented like you are like feel pushed into it. It's kind of like this like anyone can step on stage There's no like yeah, there's no lasting director with like a whole you know cookie glasses, right? There's it has the least barriers entry. That's why we meet some of the worst humans alive Yeah, and the best. This is true. I think you're about that. I believe that about stand-ups
But I could drag is the same there's no gatekeepers like any anyone can put on a wig and go to the bar There it is anyone can put on a heel in a last go to the bar. We're not gonna stop you So that's why you're probably monsters. I'm sure you believe like in drag you meet a lot of Grifters in the same way we like in stand-up like you you we mentioned like the podcast stuff that's going on and people getting political with their podcast You're like yeah, I've been seeing this happen yeah at open mics, you know
Drag queens or drag queens are wild right there are some bevenas conniving as Drag queens in these streets so you get you go in this play and I mean that's a big-time writer and then does that lead to move on move on rules the musical it is on right now It's playing through July. If you want to see Bob the drag queen
He is only there until March 22nd. So we want you to go You don't think I do this we only remember three things. Three things Bob the drag queen. Oh, it's got leaked out for that John mad and that's it. That's all I remember And I remember Mateo saying I remember years ago Mateo is like Bob the drag queens one of the funniest people
“That's going around right now. Oh, that's right and and I remember that because I was like oh that's cool to know”
And I do believe in stand-up The hardest part about stand-up is every week
You'll just be like you'll turn and be like who's that guy? Yeah, you know that happens a lot too and it's like I'm always
I'm like so excited and also depressed by the talent Yeah, did I see on a night tonight basis so like you know you go. Oh, I thought I was good and then you go no no no The whole thing is changed. You know, so the landscape is constantly changing always well for people Don't know I'm a comedian which is crazy. I have four comedy specials by the way Which is crazy people who do that know that I didn't know yet for I embarrassingly I you know
I'll admit that on camera. I have one on Amazon calls suspiciously large warming. Okay. I have one on On iTunes called Bob the drag queen live at Carolines love it. I have one that released on YouTube myself called woke man in the dress Okay, and I just released one last month called this is wild on Hulu. What's your favorite? I think woke man in a dress or this is wild They're both pretty pretty good. Well men in a dress is a really really good Rive I I just that's on YouTube. Yeah for forever. I'm gonna go to Bob the drag queens YouTube page as well and go watch his special
I gotta go watch it because I now I'm excited and it's free and it's free waiting for you For a Friday especially with how cold it is you know put it in the queue and get to it But also go to Mulan Rouge the musical as playing through July, but March 22nd is the last date you can see Bob the drag queen He is here with us. We are gonna be answering emails. We have dating advice emails
If you want to come see me, I'm on the road. I mean, where are you going? I got some shows going on
“We can see me. We can see me. See you. Don't remember that thing. This is I had to remember”
That's how good of a voice I am. I was there for you. Which I appreciate. You know, listen I it's not about me. It's not about about me. What about us about us cherry making the funnace Give me some links. I have a younger brother. How much younger four years four years four years
Younger than me?
My older brother is a chef. A chef? Yeah. Where do they dance for the for a children's hospital? That's it. Wow. That is like a. So a really good person. Well, that's a good person, but that's like a character and a sitcom. Like that's a movie that's a rom-com character. It does. But my brother's kind of
“I think he's kind of boring. But he's just like a really kind of playing like a he's a really”
playing guy. Is he married? Yeah. He's married. Okay. Yeah. And living in the Atlanta suburbs and No, he lives in the city. He lives in the Atlanta proper. I grew up in the Atlanta suburbs. Okay. But he lives in the Atlanta proper in the in the in the in the in the in the inner perimeter. It's the ITP. Yeah. Yeah. And then my younger brother is 18. So he doesn't. And what's what? What is the
respiratory college you want to get there first? Look at that. So you where you always the performer like
I'm the only performer of a family. It was the family just in my family. My cousin Bentley. My cousin Bentley is a singer. Okay. So I didn't really call it a well. Shout out. My cousin Bentley. What was there like was it you know Thanksgiving and Bob's gonna go up and you know there are mostly a no way by me mostly especially my older brother because I didn't grow up my younger brother obviously he's 21 years younger. There's mostly a no way my mother obviously
loved me a lot. She was very much into a lot of what I had to do. But I think I was really just mostly annoying. Okay. I was a really annoying child. Like here we go. Very cryo a lot. Okay. Constant tears over anything. Was that an attention thing? Is that? Probably but also just I was
a very emotional. I was a very emotional kid but I also really love attention to it. I guess what
do you do for that is like a parent? Like this is just another well what's on my mom? I remember we were laying in bed and there was a comic book on the and I had to store him on it. I really wanted the comic book and I was like can you hear me that comic book? And she was like it was just grabbing yourself like it's literally right there. Right. And I just grabbed the comic book and she handed it to me. And I want to go grab what you pulled the back and she goes I just want you to know
I'm handing you this book because I love you not because you're crying. The crying has nothing to do with this. And honestly that was the answer. That was it. I stopped whining and crying. There's someone with the child right now that cries a lot. They're like I didn't expect this podcast to save my life today. And by the way it's not going to work for them. No. They're going to be like bullshit advice.
“They're going to write to us. The way the body was lying. Listen if you want to see me cry in the”
road I do it every night on stage. I'm going to be in Salt Lake City, Tempe Arizona, LA Los Angeles. I'm coming to Los Angeles. Where are you going? I'm doing some theater downtown which is where they put all the big acts. The Wilzer? No, I'm not doing the cool one. I'm doing the Blasco. The Blasco, that's yes. You're the one. All right. I'm going to do the nice spy. Okay. You're Italian? No. Greek. No. I get those. You're English. Thank you, Jewish. Greek and Italian is one of
you. You can put a big thing. So thank you. Only three things you could have been. Thank you.
I appreciate it. You went. You went Italian and Greek first which is Ivory Jews Dream. So let's
get in the episode. It's your garden star club for the feeling by action in Qualität and their kleinste price hand in hand. For example, for mini-cuttings, you only have 24, 28 or your garden touchgapensheering, only one, 24. In Decay, now all your garden products are in our family. Yeah, and in the X&F, X&Gline app is a course of order. You got to your relationship? Yeah, I got to your boyfriend. Two boyfriend. Yeah. One. One of them is Jewish. Okay. Yeah. And, uh, you had you meet
grinder grinder. Yeah. You had many girls in grinder. No. I keep looking. Yeah. I think I'm in the wrong place. Not a great spot. I did. There were some girls in grinder though, just so you know. There are girls? Yeah, there are some girls. There are some scissors, you know. Women on grinder. Just down by a gay guy. Is that like a, like a thing for them, is that? I've only seen it a few times. Is that like a power thing? Do you think they're trying to say I can make that happen? And that's
like a little bit of there. I think they want to have sex and they know gay guys are sluddy and are easy. I mean, all guys are easy. How do you work the dynamic between your boyfriend and your boyfriend? The were their friends, which is, which is nice. That helps. And we live separately. So me all three. Me and Jacob live together. Okay. And then me and Tau live together on, what like seven? How do you deal with the rents and or the mortgages? What did I pay it? All of it.
Yeah, they're. Everyone needs to keep going. They're brokeies. So you pay both rents or both more, you own, we don't have a mortgage in a rent. Mortgage in a rent. Well, at least you get in the
“tax benefits. Yeah. That's why everyone. That's what that's polyamory. Everyone in polyamory doing”
it for the tax price. That's all it is. So I mean, you meet one on Grindr and you meet the other way. Oh, on Grindr. Both on Grindr. Yeah. And how do you, did you guys start as an E&M?
E&M, what is this?
Yeah. I just started fucking so many people. Well, me and Jacob, yeah, we kind of started. Jacob is obviously the Jewish one. You're correct. You're correct. We started non-monogamous.
We were never like, you know, locking it down. Right. This was just like, hey, we feel safe
together. Yeah. And then we want to explore elsewhere. Yeah. And that was kind of the discussion. Pretty much. Yeah. Yeah. And then you find another guy that you feel safe with as well, that you just, is there one that's more sexual more, and there's another that's more friendship? Is there a relationship has absent flows? Yeah. One moment your relationship will be more sexual, but there are two separate relationships. So they have more ones that they can both become
hyper-sexual or both become quite friendly or, you know, you go to the same happens when
“folks at every relationship go through. I think you're absolutely right. Yeah. Before we get started,”
I actually was thinking, so you give the drag name to misguided. Misguided. Exactly. Exactly. I'm dealing with that. I'm dealing with that. Dillon, I'm wrong. Yeah. I gave myself some drag names. And I want to hear what you think. I did ask Mateo Lane, who mutual friend of ours. Uh-huh. I said, I asked, I said, Bob's coming on the podcast. And this is his, I asked, is there anything I should know about Bob?
Okay. And he said, Bob is always 10 steps ahead of you. That's Bob, but I'm not sure.
So that was his quote. It was only like like a Batman villain. I know. Listen. 10 steps ahead. I tell you. Okay. So then I asked, what would my drag? He said, tell him I said your drag name. So this is him telling me to read this. I'm just making sure everyone knows. This is what he said, my, I'm not saying it. He said, tell him I said your drag name is Baggette with an F. Baggette. Well, I wouldn't say it. I would never be allowed to say my own.
But you know, who could do that from? Yeah. Um, you know, I feel like your drag name can say a lot about you. Okay. So you can say, for example, I know a Jewish drag queen named Ladies and the Gaga, she wants to have a drag name. Makes me go, oh, like it makes me, it makes me weak. Ladies and the Gaga. Ladies and the Gaga. I love it. Make she wants you to know. She's Jewish. And she wants you to know. She likes pop music. Yeah. So when you hear ladies and the Gaga, you know everything
“you need to know about her. Right. I like bread. There you go. I do like a Baggette. Okay. There it is.”
I'm a fan of the gay community. Okay. Here we go. I don't know of that. I mean, I mean, I mean, I think if you're in drag, we're already thinking you're a fan of the gay community. Sure. Your name could also be like, uh, uh, she need a car below. She needed. You know what I mean? Yeah, she needed. I mean, you'll have to think it's car below. Yeah. You could have carbs. And then the word load is in there and gays love love love. Yeah. Yeah. They're, they're, they're really love love. Like I'm not even being
for these just gays love. Is that a thing in the community loads are loads of thing in the gay community? I think if straight men were allowed to know that they just has loads of them. Where are your situation? It just says loads. What a way to walk in my room. Tell the world what you want. I know a guy who would like rent a hotel room and then just go in there. Fill it with loads. I mean, no, the, I mean, he takes them on with him. You know what I mean? And what vials is he has a travel
with that table. He says he'll go crazy. Oh, in his person. It's all. So he saves up. What? Oh my god, you don't know anything. This is crazy. So he rents a hotel room. He puts down like tarps or sheets or whatever. And then he signs up. Is this not what this podcast is for? We know this. We are here to learn. He's a nice guy as they come through and they each drop a load off inside of his person in his body. And then he, and then you mark on your, on your back.
So you'll know where you are. So you know if you're the first one because they're the
tarps for if it's in his body. Because you know, they're splashing. Yeah. I think you're so full. It's going to start splashing back on you. Right. That I mean, I have learned a lot today. So you actually, and then I should get my place, if I rent somewhere, I should get a clean first. Yeah, you probably, but also, you need, now you can probably also learn where you want to be in the load line up. Do you want to be at the beginning? Or do you want to be in the middle? Do you want to be
“at the end? Well, I'm sure there's a fetish for all three. See. Thank you. And that's why you're”
not lying. That's right. I'm here for you. I think we found our next grader Marshall. Here's here's my drag names that I thought of. You're ready? Okay. Hug a bull. Yeah, I didn't like it. Yeah, you know, okay, can we talk about why it's not a good drag name? Please. Is your name a hug or is it a hug? Okay, I guess that doesn't work. Yeah. Okay, so let me go to my next one.
Matza Brai.
I haven't even known. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. This is not a bet. I shouldn't have assumed.
This is not a bet. Okay. Drey Dell. See, this is your best one yet. Okay. Thank you. You're putting them in order of how great they are. Yeah, yeah. I'm working my wife. Yeah. Cuttle's justice. I hope you got my wink. This is a superhero. Not a drag quote. Okay. I'm sorry. I went off course. Fro-Yo. Fro-Yo. It's like this is giving black. Yeah, it didn't feel me when everyone is going to have froze too though. Yes, they can. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Well, Jewish people in Bob Ross. All of us.
“Yes. Is Bob Ross Jewish? I don't think he is. I always, that frog. I thought it was black. I think”
everyone sees themselves. I think everyone in this room thought Bob Ross was whatever they are. That's a good point. Okay. Ready? Forest Rump. Do you have a nice ass? I don't know.
I, you know when people would know. I guess I don't. Okay. Okay. Ready? I got more.
Muzzle top. Well, okay. That's advertising. Oh, that's me saying. I'm going to top you down. I'm going to top you down. Okay. Same thing is straight out. Do you know what we call it? That's what we call it. If you have a like a five-foot four Jewish top, they're a traitor. Really? Because they're a little Jewish top. That's the funniest. See, this is, this is where male sexuality, the energy, when it's put toward, when all of it's put aside, you know, when you don't have to
work towards figuring out a woman, you put it into important things like right name names. Yeah. Like, I, I think, dread, like, you know, dreadful, having a nickname. That being a nickname. I love that.
“Okay. Burning Bush. This is the worst one. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That kind of does work. Right. Right. Right.”
You're, you're fair. Honey, huh? You're like, tell a phone. I'm new to the world. Okay. How about, okay. Well, this one's kind of just a word, but it's I thought it was fun. Mm-hmm. Oh, Zempek. If the O standards of, if your name was like, oh, Philia Zempek. Oh, okay. That's, yeah. Then you could be, but I'm afraid to call me, oh. Okay. Yeah. You're on a, you're on a good path, though. Thank you. I'm happy. We got here. We got to this
great place. There was good stuff in there. Listen, we really good stuff. We write to edit as you know. How about like, um, Manny Shavis. Oh, I like that one because you could do like fun old guy drag stuff. Like, I could like, kind of go in a funny direction. The fucking name is Manny. Yeah. Manny. I do like have, like, I don't know why I was a, like, show it near the time. Yeah. I was like a New York Jew in there. I,
yeah. There's like, I could wear like the, like the apron, you know, Manny Shavis. Do you ever wear the y'all because of kid? No, to temple when you had to. But not like out in the back. No, I was in my partner in the same way. Yeah. He kind of wore a yay. So that means he wants to just signal that he's like, he'll be like, if he's somewhere where he thinks we're going to be, like, at this event of healing. I really want to turn it off. That's a fucking really put in their faith.
But then this other Jewish guy saw him and trying to have like a Jew off with him. Yeah, no. I mean, I'm not sure. I mean, you're speaking Hebrew. He like, hey, I don't want to speak. He. Right. It's kind of the problem with wearing the y'all because they started like trying to out, out Jew you. Right. How do you feel about that? I, I, no, I don't want to, I'm a high holiday Jew. I do high holidays. I want to summer camp. I'm, I'm, I'm looking, I culture, you know, I like the
community of it. Do you start to like a pose or when someone starts being like, well, well, when did you, and you're like, well, well, easy. I think a lot of most American Jews feel that way. They're like, you know, I just don't want to be tested. This may shock you, but I used to know the cottage for heart. Really? I used to. Did you have a lot of Jewish friends with you? It was in, it was in the play I did those things in the American. Right. The writer of
American is Jewish, and he put the cottage in there. That is a thing when you're in a play,
“like, and you have to learn a part. Yeah. You, you get this like kind of side gig to like learn”
about someone's life or about a person. Yeah. I learned so much about Mormonism. Right. Is that what that, that's what that plays about? It's about basically Christianity, Mormonism,
and Judaism, and how those things all kind of like are very similar. No. No. Okay. I never know.
Well, how they're very different. Okay. All right. Let's go to something we do know about. We're going to give people advice on their lives. Okay. And also about the AIDS epidemic in about angels, it's not, I want to be clear, it's not, it's not just about Jewish people, Mormons, and angels and Americans about the Jewish, you know, being Jewish. It's not about the AIDS epidemic. Okay. That too. Mostly. So, let's do some emails. Go follow. If you don't already at Bob the
drag queen, we're trying to get him to mainstream status with millions of followers. I think we can help that. I'm going to get you. I already have millions of followers. Oh, excuse me. I'm sorry.
You made it sound like you.
speakers. That wasn't safe. Sorry. I didn't mean to invite you here to insult you. I had no idea. I didn't know what I was dealing with. He's saying, I don't know if I'm mainstream. I'm so niche. Millions of followers. Millions of followers. You do like all these movies and stuff. You're on Broadway. It's true. Millions lose the musical. He'll be there till March 20th. Okay. You're ready. I'm going to get tickets. Dear J&B. Huge fan have an issue that I need some help with. I'm a 25-year-old
straight woman living in New York City. I've been dating my boyfriend 25 for about seven months. He's a bass player in a band made up in Tyler's with her. Is it really? Yeah. That's a bass player. If don't date a musician or don't date a bass player. I mean, bass players are kind of probably some of the nicest musicians. I would assume. Don't date a saxophone player. No. You kidding me? That would be undercover cocky. To me, the guitarist, you're like, stay away from the guitarist.
The guitarist could be a good guy. A saxophone player not with a 10-foot pole. What? Ever date a fucking saxophone player? What's the reason? You know, I just heard from a people that saxophone players are the worst ones. And some of those people were raised by those saxophone players. Okay. I'm like, I believe you. It's like when you hear about like a photographer being like, kind of like this like dirt bag type of job. What's my boyfriend's representative? Oh my god.
I can't. I can't win with this guy. Are they really? No, I'm sure they're great dirt bags.
“They treat you nice. I'm sure they're there. They're my dirt bags. Yeah, and that's what matters.”
Exactly. Okay. We're going to learn the meaning of Christmas by the end of this. Okay. He's a bass player in a band made up of Tyler. If women in a couple months ago for an upcoming show, they were playing around with an idea and he decided to dress and drag. At first, it felt playful and fun. He was a gorgeous woman. Sorry, have you seen someone like it hot? No. This is, this is what some like it hot is about. Is it really? It's literally
some guys join an all-women band. One of them I think plays the bass and they dress up. It's women to join. Oh, well, that's bosom buddies. This is, this is literally what some like it.
Wait, there's like a million movies like this, too. I mean, this is pretty old. This is
Mrs. Doubtfire. This is a bit, I don't know. She's like, anyway, he's on a runaway train. It's hard to have to. Okay. So he was a gorgeous woman the night of the show. It was a success. They decided to do it again after the second show. He told me he really loved dressing up for the show. He wants to explore it more. He started investing in make-up and has shared that he wants to explore becoming an altar persona during his performances. I want to be
clear it up front that I'm pro LGBTQ+ open-minded and genuinely trying to approach this with curiosity rather than judgment. When you hear that, when we have to start with it, it sounds like
“she don't want to date no baguette with an F. That's what it sounds like to me.”
Well, the, the like she can't even say, you know, she's like, let me just start. I voted for Hillary. Yeah, right. I understand that drag does not automatically mean someone is gay or trans. I know there are straight men who enjoy drag. My boyfriend has told me he doesn't identify as a woman that he's straight. I do trust him. Well, I guess, yeah, if she's like,
well, I guess if you're first question to, I'd like to put on, you know, a dressing drag for the show.
Are you straight? You don't really feel like that's a safe space. I do trust him still. I'm feeling unsure about how to emotionally process this in our relationship. I think I'm learning that I may have some traditional ideas and that I don't love that my boyfriend has asked me for make-up advice that I meant to support this new exploration. I think I'm feeling insecure and overthinking about still being desired and celebrated in the bedroom as a woman and that this
part of him doesn't unintentionally diminish her intimacy. I don't really have anyone in my life. I feel safe talking to about this. I know friends and family would likely make fun of him or immediately tell me to break up, which isn't helpful. Before this, I genuinely thought I could see myself marrying him. Now I'm questioning whether I fully understand him. What conversations should I have to be making sure the noise of how relationships are supposed to look doesn't cloud what actually
matters between us? How can I be supportive of my boyfriend exploring the idea of drag while still
“feeling secure, desired, and confident my role as this partner supportive, but still human?”
You know, I want to say a lot of things. Please. In the world of drag, a lot of people, you learn a lot about yourself when you start a plan with gender. You learn more than you thought you would to be honest. You find out that once you start your breakdown, the separation between gender and sexuality and how gender works in the world and how it is perceived, once you undo it,
you can never put it back together. The toothpaste is out of the tooth. The toothpaste is out of the
Tooth.
liberal, these lips, in progressive people, you're going to start to realize that you're
in packaging a lot of what you have in your own head, and then a lot of people are discovered who they are through drag, gender-wise. It's actually not uncommon. It doesn't happen all the time. I'm not saying every drag queen is like, I'm a woman, but there are moments where someone will do drag for he, he's in a haze and be like, and then now no one's laughing and then I still feel beautiful. And then the dad, I want to take the makeup off because I feel like myself
“I'm seeing a reflection of everything that I really want to be. I'm not saying that's what I've”
been with her husband, but there is a chance that he wants to dress up. He likes to feel pretty. Right. It seems like he likes to feel pretty. You know what I mean? And it sounds like she wants
a more traditional man. I think that if you're going to be on this journey, if everything
else is the same, except he's just like dressing up now, you have an opportunity to be there for him in a way and grow together in a way because he's still attracted to women. He's still laying down with you at night and you don't have to, you don't need a man to celebrate a woman. There are women who celebrate women all the time. There are none biting people who celebrate women for being women all the time. But it sounds like she needs her celebration to come from a man.
It's someone who feels like a man and it's very much a man. Well, do you think it sounds like one of her issues here? It feels like when you write, I want to make sure everyone knows. I'm pro LGBTQ plus. When you write that, we both kind of iron all that because we're sitting
here and I love black people. Right. Right. Right. Right. And I'm, you know, I'm not right.
My best friend is Jewish. Right. Right. When you start doing that, it's like, what's coming out of me? Yeah. So I do think, like what you're saying, if all else is the same, what's
“what's the issue here? This is your partner and you're, I think her concern would probably be”
am I allowed, if I say I'm not attracted anymore, this turns me off. Am I a hateful person? And I could understand what that would be tougher her. Yeah. You know, like, because what do you, because I would go, yeah, I guess you guys have your interest went in different ways. I could understand that he got more into something that you didn't understand or didn't really think it makes you hateful, but it doesn't make you open minded. Right. Which you claim to be right in your
email. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So no, I don't, I don't think that wanting to not date a guy who's doing drag makes you hateful, but it's certainly, but I don't think you got to take open minded out of your bio. Right. We're going to change of the, you are a close minded. You know what I mean? Because somewhat okay with the LGBTQ+ community. Like, you're cool with the gay people who's not in your house. You know what I mean? Like, that's kind of what it's giving. And I think that you got to just come
to grips with the fact that you don't want to date no gay guy or a feminine man or a man who puts on dresses, which is crazy because like, I feel like on the surface, people make it so they're actually really into it. You know, who's the British guy who puts on dress all the times? Harry Styles? Well, Harry Styles, but the comic. Oh, well, she identifies the, as a woman now. Okay. So she's a her name is, well, she heard stage name with Eddie Isert, but she actually has like a, a name,
she goes by and heard daily life, but her, her professional name is now Eddie Isert. Right. And I don't know as Eddie Isert enough or the history of it enough to really talk about it. But Eddie Isert was for a while declaring that she was like an executive transvest, that I believe was the term of the shoe guy. I mean, like, just a very sharply dressed, you know, man dress because one, but then that. But then you, you hang up the barber shop along enough, you're going to get a haircut. Right.
You keep fooling around with this gender mini shit. You're going to realize that gender is not real. And once you deconstruct what gender and realize how unreal it is and how it's really just how
“things around you're going, you have to intentionally choose to frame yourself with in gender.”
Right. Well, I, sometimes I don't feel smart enough to even, like, talk about the subject. I don't think you gotta be smart. I know some really dumb transplants. Okay. Well, I, but I, well, I would say for Eddie Isert, I kind of, we've all watched publicly, you know, Eddie Isert go from one look to more, to identifying as a woman. Yeah. So we've watched that kind of, like, publicly. So, like, you're like, you're saying, like, what do you want to say? Susie. Susie. So,
Susie, we've watched, then becomes Susie. Yeah. You know, publicly, which I'm sure is difficult for them, you know, on a certain level, but also like what you're saying, like, once you unpack it, you start going down the road of it, you start realizing, I think what's interesting about this email is like, the way, you know, this guy's saying, I'm straight to his girlfriend and she goes, I guess I'll believe that. Like, it kind of shows you the plight of a straight guy. Do you want
to hear my real hot today? Please, I would love to. There are actually aren't any straight people.
You think doesn't exist.
cisgender people. There is not real. You think that's them conforming to a society that has told
“them that's how it goes. That's the way it works. And if they were left to, they're emblemed.”
Yep. That they would go in the direction that they felt was that day, that week, that month, that year, that person. I really do. And I think that everyone's a little gay and everyone's a little straight and everyone's a little non-binary, but you can't say that. You know, I mean, but I actually don't think there are any. There are no straight people. It's a myth. Straightness is a myth. I really truly believe that in my heart of art. If you think of the constrictions that you're bringing up,
like the societal ones, don't you think that men, straight men, who are identifying a straight man,
have to deal with that the most? Oh, I could never. Like, this guy's got one year, but I could never
again pretend to be. I had one year's a straight man. I was a straight boy for 17 years. I was a straight man for one year. And I was like, I'm tapping out. You might as well put me in the
“figure for a leg lock, hit me with a mandible claw. I'm tapping out. Suck it. No, I think we're on the”
same page here. Like, because you listen, this email is hilarious to me. A woman writes in about how this guy's, you know, this, this new thing that he's finding about himself is now if making her life horrible. Yeah. You know, if he was wild to me. Right. Like, if you listen, if any straight man goes to a woman and says, let's do this new thing in sexually, like if any dress I'd like to dress up as a woman, they would go, who did you do that with? Who told you to do that? What, what, what, what am I doing wrong?
It would never be. I'm so excited that you found this new part of yourself. What a gift that
he trusts you enough to tell you. Right. This is truly a gift because what's going to happen is either these two are going to work it out. And they're going to have a beautiful shape and discover some new sexual stuff that they have that they are going to be gagged if they want to do. Or he's going to, they're going to say together, he's going to repress everything. And then, you know, I had a show called We're here on HBO years ago, years ago. And we did an episode in Florida,
and there was this couple. It was a trans woman and her wife. And she came out at like 68 as a trans woman. She was like living her life like for years, hiding who she was, for years, just presenting at this macho, masculine, this that the other, but she almost took her life because she couldn't live like that anymore. And then her wife found her, the trans woman's wife was
the says woman found her, like, you know, basically some sort of failed suicide attempt. And then
she was like, I would rather have you like this as yourself than not have you at all. And they
“were honestly really fucking happy together. It's a beautiful story. Yeah. You know, as as tragic”
as it is to like feel that way your whole life, but then to be with your person. Yeah, comfortably. So the end of the day. You know, supportive is still human has the opportunity to be that, but you don't have to wait until you're 60. You late. Actually, I don't know. Right. Well, 25. She's 25 and he's 25. Right. I can, we'll can go in two different directions. It's either you want to be here for this and like see where this can go for both of you guys, or you're going to
opt out. And that's okay, too. Like I think like you think gay guys wear skirts. Like think really, really think about it for a second. Like air flow. Not, I mean, not all gay guys, but gay guys dress in more women's clothing than straight guys. Yes. Just that we can just visually see this, right? And I feel like it is because we are still men, but we have released ourselves at least a little bit from the social construct. What it means to be a man, because we've already been outcast.
Right. So we're already on the outside. So who cares? We're going to think. So I'm going to wear at my heels. I'm going to wear a skirt. I'm going to wear a lipstick. I'm going to talk this when I'm going to get my hair done. I'm going to, you know, do it a little bit extra little bit different because I'm already on the outskirts. Right. And we are there's no more you can take you know, more you can make fun of or make us feel, you know, different then. And there's no
accusations that can be lobbed at us because we already confess and have it have admitted. And you're not going to tell me there's not some fucking straight guy who saw one of these, like, there's a guy with them. You know, wisdom. I don't know. Wisdom. He's a stylist. He's a stylist. He's a stylist on TikTok. He's a straight guy. He's a really stylish. And he wears these skirts sometimes and they gage. They go hard. They look really fucking good. Right. And I know these are the
straight guys like, man, I wish I could have fucking rocked there. Who's that one rapper? Who wears the women's clothes sometimes? Losey. So he looks good. I think we're inching towards that a little bit. I mean, look at the van cleaf necklace. I see that that's like, what is there? There's like van cleaf
Is like the jewelry company.
doesn't look very, I mean, this is like a small thing. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm saying, it doesn't look
like a manly jewelry. It does look like it's kind of any gender could wear it. It's cute. It's it's a good look. And I see it on guys and you go, oh, okay. They're inching a little bit that way.
“I think it's hard. I think it gets put on straight men a lot. I do think like we don't get the”
blessing of blaming society as much because everyone says, well, you've gotten the goods of society. But there's like, this is an angle. You know, this guy who's put on a, you know, getting dressed and dragged to do his shows and confiding in a woman who's now going, you know, how could I feel loved as a woman? You're like, whoa, I didn't even real, you know, like, that's a tough place to put into. I think straight guys have the reap the business of society, but you also have the the
highest pressure or because you have a lot to live up to and for like a gay guy, we people don't expect
well, if I walked in in your shoes, which I gave you a lot of, and I like that. They're great. I do, but I, if I walked in, there would be like, I would have a lot of like explaining to two or unless you're really good at something, right? Like, for example, kids could wear these shoes interesting, really good at something. I didn't expect this was going to be. Prince could wear pumps in a thumb, but he's really good at something. I got to get better at stand-up. I don't even
got to be that good. I can just walk in and wear it because I'm just that gay. Yeah, be that good. You got to be that gay. It's one of the other. Can I meet that next question? Yes, please. Let's go. Jan, Jay. So this is, so we play, my Jordan is my normal. God here in place of the other Jay.
“Who's coming back? And if you want to hear from Jordan, we have benefits episode. Son of for benefits.”
I've done nothing to Jordan. Bob has been nothing, but a gracious man is safe and sound. Save it sound with, with, you know, at this point, I think, you know, with babies. You know, so we're, so excited. Oh, okay. Well, she had one. It's a long story. She stole one. Oh, you got it from one. Yeah, you got to steal one. Yeah, you got to get a little go. Thank you. Thank you. I wouldn't get one. So she had a surrogate and she had one. But I got her ones. He's just said,
"Bogo babies." Yeah, that's so funny. Well, we're going to play a game called Ikea Pickie. So this person's writing and finding out, they were turned off and they're asking us, is it an egg? Or were they being picky? Go ahead. Hey, Jan, Jay. I found Jarrett through my girlfriend watching his Bachelor Recaps. They're hilarious. I figured I'd write in with a question and an honest take from a guy's perspective. Jay and Jay have some TV related issues. My girlfriend
has always been very into celebrity gossip and reality TV, which I've never really cared for.
I'll admit it can be amusing once in a while. Overall, it's not my thing. For a bit more context, my girlfriend works full time, but it's not like she has all day to consume this material. Yes, somehow she still manages to watch two to three hours of TV shows and scroll through huge amount of social media every day. We're talking housewives, send my house, love is blind, traders, and yes, I even know that Lisa was eliminated from Trader spoiler alert, which is not
something I'd ever, I'd ever thought of my type. My girlfriend will start some days with, can you believe what happened last night? And it takes a moment for me to realize she's talking about a show and not a friend, slash family or story from someone we know in real life. With love is blind season here, I can't help but wonder how many other lives I'll be forced to learn about. For years, I felt like this material influences our lives. I've started to, it's starting to
give me the egg. All this information about other people's lives is a parasolial relationship that I do not agree to be a part of. I love my girlfriend, but it's turning me off. I can't help but wonder, would you date someone who watches reality TV and forms parasolial relationships with reality stars? Jared, I know you watched the bathroom, thank God for your recaps their hilarious and the only way people should consume reality TV, but if you were dating a woman, who was this
consumed, would you continue? I get it. All the girls I knew were into this stuff when we were teens,
“but we're in our 30s now. Did this still feel normal? How do I talk to her about this?”
So, Ikki or Pikki, my girlfriend has a parasolial relationship with reality TV stars, a man who wants to focus on his own reality. Not the drag queen. What do you think? I think that some of your words, you're using just aren't actually the really what they are, like parasolial is a pretty strong word. Like a parasolial relationship is not just like, I like this person. Parasolial is like, I think Kim Kardashian is my friend. So, I think it's kind of like how you
go online every, I'm not saying, I'm not saying it didn't happen to you, but there's no way,
I'm going to take a lot.
your parents are not, it's just not possible. There's no way everyone online claiming their parents
and their exes are narcissists. They can't all be narcissists. Right. Statistically speaking,
“I just can't be, it can't be that true. You know what I mean? So, I think that he's all of your exes”
are narcissists. But they're all dating you. Exactly. So, you're the main character in this shitty story. So, I think that, I don't think your girlfriend has parasolial relationship. I think she's really likes reality TV. Well, you were on traders. You were famously on traders. Again, beloved on traders. Did you feel that there were people that had kind of tweeted at you, did people go on social media and try to connect with you in a way that you were like,
you've gone too far? I've had maybe one person go, what? I thought was too far. I know where it actually made me really uncomfortable and I actually gently thought unsafe, but like one person. Yeah. One of all the millions that you have found because we want to be millions, millions. I'm 3.21 on TikTok, 2.1 on Instagram. I can't. 140,000 on Twitter. I can't even believe that I didn't memorize. I'm having those numbers tattooed. But you've heard about 20 seconds,
which was interesting. Yes, there was one to make sure, listen, I've got to make you your money. Okay. Those numbers make you know, well, they make you something. But yeah, I mean, I've had one who I was like, oh, I feel really uncomfortable with you and I think that you think that we're close, and we're not. I've had like, I've had some really overzealous fans, but they don't actually think that they like knew me. They were just really excited when they saw me. I think I agree with you
that he's speaking too much in extremes. Like, it's funny. This email both makes a point and doesn't like kind of ruins his own point. Yeah. Like, he ruins his own point. The minute you say with reality TV, we're in our 30s now. Does this still feel normal? I don't understand what age you think everyone should opt out of watching a TV show and discussing it. That's a great, like, to me, you're putting a morality on watching TV that is you trying to win the argument. It's not really,
you're trying to hear you. I have a theory about this, actually. I think what the issue is that reality TV became really, really really popular when we were kids. Yes. So it seems like a kid thing, but it's not a kid thing anymore. It has aged up with us. Yes. So maybe boomers aren't really into reality TV, but that's because they didn't really have it. So when you think about video games,
“yes, our parents don't pay video games. But now it does play video games. Right. Right. You have to”
move with the times that you see around you, not the ones you saw when you were growing up. I don't think reality TV is for children. I mean, I'm, I'm a product. I mean, I've been on we're here, I'm going to replace drag race. I've been on the trade. I've been on last coming standing. I've been on American talent. I am a product of reality TV. Right. And I will tell you, there are no children at my shows. Right. There are adults. So my shows are 18 up. But that's why it's such, and you've, you've,
like, ruined your own argument. If the argument is, hey, I want to talk to my girlfriend about something other than reality TV, you're, you're totally right to have the, hey, all we talk about is people from TV that I have no relation to. Like I think there's like, I was like, I kind of wrote down. I was thinking, I was like, what can you, with reality TV? Like what, what would be an egg and what would be this person being the egg? I think like not being able to talk about reality
TV because it's just reality TV is you being a piece of shit. Like you're being an asshole. You're just trying to win. If the person brings up, oh, do you see what Bob did? And you're like,
who, like, if they go on first name basis with people on the show, expecting that everyone knows
Bob is Bob the drag queen, I would be like, Texas little crazy. Right. That's crazy. You'd be like, even though we live in the same house, I can't have you being like so Sydney didn't win the
“tribal council. Yeah. Like I need more there. You have to catch me up. We have to be in a discussion”
about reality TV that relates to our life because I, that's what I love about reality TV, relating it to my life. What would I do if I were here for? I like that show because I like the arc of it. I like, I like how there's a beginning middle and end. Yeah. And then I like that it's everything like professional wrestling. You know, I know it's fake, but they got to take the bumps. I'm sorry. I didn't, I have really messed up every single chance I've gotten with Bob the drag
queen. I didn't mean to ruin professional wrestling. Please forgive me. I, we had to make fully got thrown off the hell. But so what are you trying to tell me right now? Well, this is my point.
Mick Foley had to land on the ground. Same with the bachelor. You have to have first kiss.
You've got to meet the parents. This is how you act. And it's like, all reality shows are a great springboard for fun conversations about the world, society, what's going on. That's how this person did that. I think when people go over the bridge into Kuku Nuts banana land is when they
Start to be like, they start to like try and like litigate the person on TV.
media and be like, well, we have to take this person down on how they acted on a reality TV show.
“It's like, well, there are producers that edited this for months and months and months. Like if”
there's a real, you know, problem that we have to go to the police about, you would hope that they would have done that. You know, so my question is, it seems like that he, you know, I have one of my partners. He loves running. Okay. If he really loves running. That's enough. I am not really into running. So they're waking up early. Yeah. Now in the cold, he doesn't know him. Okay. He's doing his three miles a day and then trying to carve off time. I will say them because I'm
interested in him. I am intrigued by his progress in his updates. I'm not really interested in the running stuff. He's like running culture and these clubs and this club and he goes to this park to do this and he goes to that park to join this running club. He like really loves it. My other partner loves anime. I don't really watch anime. Right. I like hearing him talk about it from it. It's exciting to see him be excited about something. You like his passion. Yeah. But when I
try to watch it with him, like I tried to watch a tech on Titan, there's no way of that. And I was like,
“I'm just not into this. It was honestly more interesting to hear you talk about it.”
Yeah. Then it is to actually watch it because I'm actually at least something to tell you. At least I had you to look at. Also now I became a look at you. I'm just looking at the thing. Right. And also they know how your partner knows how to like Bobify it. Yeah. That is true. You know, they go, well, this is the part that would get Bob excited. And I think that's where I come back to this email or it's like, is your partner trying to make this material that they care a lot about that you
don't care as much about interesting for you. Yeah. If they're doing that, then you are
really being picky. Where's the third part? You know, like, why can't she, I do think,
maybe she should find someone who wants to talk about this stuff. Right. Well, there's a part. Again, when I talk about the bachelor, there's ways I would talk about it with a fan. And there's ways I would talk about it with someone who has no idea what the show is. Yeah. Like, and then also if something happened on the bachelor where they were like this person left the show and it became national news, that's when I get to talk to like other people about it. And I get to have
fun conversations about how I would handle it and what men do and how I do. I just can't doubt about Colton climbing the fence just I just think that's right. There are people being brought into Colton, Lauren now because he's on traders. So it's like, how were you, were you gagging
when you climbed the fence? The fence thing was amazing. It was just, you could tell he was dealing
with something. Like, he was really going through something. Like, that was, yeah. For the listeners in home, uh, barbatoes. Yeah, whatever. For the listeners, I don't know how to do it. Stoyer in the lead? Self. With what? Stoyer.
And take a meal of Tripetvahezapuntie. Shrekshtri. Gross Pretendian. But it didn't work out due to distance and job changes. I'm a simple girl, an
“interested in monogamy, as stated on my dating profile. When I asked if that's what he”
wants, he said it's not something he's looking for right now. This feels like a big red flag now that E&M is still on the table, red fire deal breaker. He was previously in an
ethical monogamous relationship and you have never been interested in one.
This is a deal breaker. If you guys are not on the same page, he's not going to change his thought process. One of you is hoping the other one was sliding to the other was realm and that's probably not going to happen. This is an absolute deal breaker. I'm with you. It's, well, are you talking about monogamous? I'm monogamous. That's what I'm looking for. I will say the, you know, the, the problem this person has is
they're talking about two different things. She's talking about destination and he's talking about journey. Yeah. You know, he's talking about, well, you know, not right now, but on our way,
I guess I could be monogamous while we are hooking up and it's like she's tal...
I'm on her. She's on a dating app and she wrote, she's looking for a monogamy, which I think
they're using the same words to mean different things. Also, he's 36. He's locked in. Right. He's, he's pretty much the person he's going to be. He has a lifestyle he likes to lead. Yeah.
“And here's the thing he's already let you know that he's going to end it with you. He's saying”
for now, I'm good for now. I can just be with you. But that's not saying I'm looking for a long-term relationship where I could see myself getting married and having children like she's waiting to find the girl who wants to have that, you know, that threesome, that group get away. Right. And until then he'll hang with you, you know, you'll do he'll drop the loads here. Yeah. Exactly. You know, to go to go back to exactly. Uh, yeah. So I had to deal break of it. Just because of the language
thing, like it's all loads is a gay term, just to say loads. I think loads has been, and again,
not to blame women, but I'm going to blame women. I don't think I can say loads to a woman and still be a fuckable dude. Could you say, like, I'm going to give you this load? What? I think I have to really make sure I have to have a sign out a questionnaire. Got it. What words? Like, if you can't say moist, what words can we say? I got to say when heaven says the guys, you don't even need to have a conversation about saying loads. Mid quote is going to be like,
here comes the load, and they'll, you know. I mean, this is with gay men. Yes. I would say it differently. Like, I would have fun with it. If I could say load, the way you said it was not how it, I would, I would, I would have fun with it. I would have been grunting and stuff. Like,
read that. I would do it like a train conductor. Here comes the load. I had a friend who used to say
“his, his boyfriend, which I think is crazy to say, he'd always go, is your butt hungry? That's,”
no, no, no, that's enough. That's enough. This is a family show about the drag queen. Is your butt whole hungry? Is your butt hungry? Is your butt hungry? It makes me think of a butt in a different way. Like, you know, what's the clip? Yeah. What was that weird monsters? Was that Nickelodeon show? Real monsters. Real monsters. Didn't they have a monster that looks like a butt hole that would be eating? Kind of, I mean, I mean, it is an Obleena. I had a, like, a mouth that could have been a butt hole.
Yes. That makes me think of Obleena. Yeah, Obleena could have been put that on the screen. Uh, here's another red flag. Are you ready? Yeah. Hi, J and B, red flag or do a breaker. If you months ago, I was in the early days of dating a guy and things were going well up to that point, the conversation was good. He planned great dates. And he was thoughtful and fun to be around.
“On our third date, we got on the topic of personal style and how to decorate our homes. I told him,”
I'm pretty modern and clean style. He said he has a more quirky and unique style. He's really, he really likes unusual decor and teaks, not my vibe. But I didn't overthink it until he told me that one of his prize possession was a mannequin. He keeps in the front entry of his house. Is a mannequin of a woman dressed in a dress holding a tray with a fake cocktail on it. I fact checked this later by going to his Instagram and sure enough, one of his posts was the mannequin.
So red flag or do a breaker. He has a mannequin in his house. Sign just plastic or problematic. I'm going to go ahead and say, this is a deal breaker. Um, but okay. I was dating this guy once and when we got together, I'm actually, I have very little very few thoughts about home decor. Okay. I've let almost everyone I live with decor in our house. Almost everyone I've ever lived with roommates, partners. No matter what, I'm like, you can, you can do whatever you want. I don't
even help everyone because I don't have the many thoughts except this one guy was dating. He had tapestry on his wall. He was like, unframed. I was like, this is not a fucking, like, I'm not, this is like, I'm in my fucking thirties. This is not a fucking college dorm. So he was like a UVM sophomore. I mean, it, it felt like that. It's up. He was a grown ass adult. Right. He loves, you know, dead and co. And I was like, do we need this? It was, it was even more, he, he, he, like, really,
like crazy, niche music. Right. The most popular band on his wall was, uh, Tegan and Sarah. He had a band on the wall. Like, I mean, I guess some of the stuff could be put into a room that is his music room. A giant, I mean, massive tapestry, massive, a Tegan and Sarah tapestry. No, Tegan and Sarah poster. Okay. Tapestry. This other artist like him was named. So then I, I would be like, you know, I really would like to have, if it's on the wall, I would really like to have been a frame.
Yeah. Like, I just think that we're adults. And I was my other, he was in his 20s. I was like, I just really, really like to be able to just have a frame. Do you think if you love that guy, you could have made it work, there would be like a section of the house that that treatment.
If he really wanted, I wouldn't, I wouldn't have cared, but because he let me...
do you mind if I frame them? Like, I would do it. Yeah. I mean, when I'm telling him, I framed all
“the pictures, he and back, he actually really loved them. He really, they looked much nicer. It was”
very expensive. I also didn't have this many of my, he's like, what are I care? So I just framed all these pictures, which took him to a professional frame, right? And just, you know, Amazon. Sure. Got them professionally framed. And he was like, I really like these, these do look a lot better. I don't have a lot of thoughts, but I don't want to man get holding a tray at the front door. Right. This is like, well, this is, I'm with you where I could be with someone and they can decorate the
home. Like, that's not going to be something I'm going to care about. But the mannequin at the front, now you're, you're getting into a territory where comfort isn't on their mind. I need them to like acknowledge people's comfort. Yeah. And if I'm going to be going like leaving bed in the middle of the night to get a snack and I'm like, you know, like, we'll scare you. That would scare me. My mom used to have a, um, one of the window pains in her, there was a, there was a window
“in the shower that you could see outside of, but there was a two, two pain window. The top one was”
glass and the bottom one was a mirror. It was a fucking mirror. And the amount of times I've been a shower in turn and there was a man looking me in the eyes through, it's me obviously, but there's a man peeking through the mirror, right? Make it man. Right. And the way it would jump stop my heart every single time that mannequin will get you. Yeah. Come to that mannequin. It doesn't matter how long you've known that mannequin. That mannequin will scare the living crap out of everything one time.
And, and, and then it's going to start moving slightly. Well, do I, I would say mannequin has to go to like not like non-foot traffic places in the house. Can we move the mannequin? Right. Did it have to be greeting people the front door? That's, I mean, but this is their personality, too. Like if you're the person that puts a mannequin in the front, fully dressed, holding a glass, like, I don't think you've gotten to know this person enough. Yeah. That says a lot about who you are,
and I got to say I like quirky people, but I don't think I could date someone that quirky. No. Like if you're like, I used to date a guy who, any city to guy who would wear his teeth? Wear his teeth? Yes, sure. And it's like around a necklace. Like he would take the tooth, and then he would like drill it and then like make it into an airing. And then he would like take the other tooth, like, wisdom teeth. He would like make it necklace out of it.
And it was kind of quirky, and then like, but it, it told me so much about him. Yeah, it's a lot. It told me everything about him, and that he needs a dentist. I mean, he had one of the people who are moved, but it told me so much about him that I, I fully, I fully ignored it.
I, I just ignored it. You never brought it up? No, I, I bought it up. I even
fucking took the one of the necklaces. I, he gave me a necklace, and I was like, how to fuck him. It's, it's a lot. Like you're dealing, there's going to be sorcery. I should have taken the red flag for what it was. I will, to be clear. I will, baby, when I tell you I would ignore red flag. Well, this is also the issue with, you know, we were talking earlier about the gay community being allowed to just, like, let it fly.
Like, I guess that's a good thing. You wear your, you know, your tooth. You wear your muller on your sleeve, so to speak. Yeah. So you know what you're getting into. Yeah. You could be with a guy, a straight guy who would put his muller on his broach, and you'd be like,
but you would never know. And at first, that was like, it was kind of quirky, but then I was like,
it's also been dickied up of like other things that I should have been paying attention to. What is the first one? It's the first one that you're here. It's my birthday. Who said the worst day of the year that you're a bit or someone else did this year? It did it to me. It was not by my
“design. Oh, I'm not that self-deplicated. I believe myself a little bit. What's bullying you here?”
So my co-host Jordana Abraham, who started this company? Well, no, babies. The one with all the babies that she stole. Yeah. Now she came on the podcast years ago and was like, we were like, this comes out on February 21st, and she's like, isn't that like the worst day of the year? Nothing to look for to nothing going on. It's cold. It's freezing. And I was like, that's actually my birthday. And she had no idea that she was talking about my birthday. So now it's
become a long-running thing that my birthday is. And I do kind of agree with the sentiment. Like, what is their February 21st? There's not a lot. You know? Well, 41 years ago was on the great avenue and I'm working. What's that? Oh. Capture my heart Bob the drag queen. This guy. I've been feeling this is going to be one of our all-time episodes. Thank you. Yeah, I think you did a great job. Thank you so much for coming on the show. That means a lot to me. I want everyone to go
follow Bob the drag queen. We have solved dating again. Everyone go to Mulan Rouge, the musical.
It is going to be going through July, but Bob the drag queen is there until M...
get tickets at sea the drag queen dot com. That's S.E. The drag queen. And that's also for your
“stand-up shows. Yeah. For my center shows anytime I see Mila, I'm going to see the drag queen”
dot com. You can also get my New York Times best-selling book, Harit Tubman Live and Concert
at any bookstore near you or you can go to read the drag queen dot com. If, okay, here's what I want
to ask you for anyone that's written a book. What's your number one piece of advice? Because you're on the New York Times best-selling list. If you look behind you, there's a book that's coming out, soon. My book. Oh my god. I'm walking red flag. That is coming out. Does anyone read any of this all out yet? Not out loud. We have, you can read a little, you want to read a little sound.
“I'm not going to read too much. Okay, I don't know. I'm nervous. I've never even read it.”
Obviously, of course they do. There it is. You got a little piece. No, not a context. That doesn't make sense. No, but it's perfect. If you're trying to, you mean, now the book is written or it's in place for writing the book. No, my advice for writing the book, don't do it. It's a pain in the fucking ass. I will say, writing the book, you just got to sit down and write. I would like to know. I missed so many deadlines. Like, I don't they stress you out and
make sure you think of your life and you're like, why am I this way? It is such a horrific
review of how you work and what you're not good at. Like, I was never a homework guy. I'm sure
you're a community. You're not a homework guy. No, I'm embarrassed to tell you how many deadlines I miss and how long. Actually, if I tell you, I don't want to tell you. I don't want to tell you I don't want to tell you my book. It's been documented out there, but it took me a really long time. Okay. The book is not that long. I got, my book is like, do you hire a ghost writer? No, I did. I wrote it. I, I said there's no, I got. I have an editor and I had someone help me, but I
look at it and it helps a lot. I had an editor and I had someone help me write my book. Like, I wrote
my whole book out. And I was like, I need help because I had never written it. I was like, now
help me structure it. I wrote my, I wrote my book. I miss so many deadlines. I'm not going to judge that because I, I went the other out. I said, let's do a ghost writer. It took me four years. Four years. And I'm sure it hung over you and made you feel like shit. There were three different presidents, presidents. It was the end of Trump's term. All of Biden's term, beginning of Trump's term. Well, you did make the New York Times best soloist, which I, I said to my dad, I was talking
about the book, and I go, you know, we could maybe make the New York Times better than he went.
“I think I was choked. My dad almost died. He really believes in you when he heard that I even”
at the mention of me being on the New York Times best soloist, he literally almost died at the table. So now I have to make just a spider. Absolutely. You guys want to help spider Jarrett's dad. Thank you. Buy the book pre-order right now. Bob the drag queen. Go see Bob the drag queen.com, move on, Rose the musical. I'm Jared Fried. We're here every Wednesday and Friday. Share share share tell a friend, comment with what you liked, loved, hated during this show. We read them all. Back next week. Go.



