Ep 1300 | Something Went Wrong in Our World Before the Flood & It Changed Everything

Welcome back to Unashamed. We are the battle with the battle raids. We were talking about Easter and we met to talk more about it. We have Melissa on the last podcast because her book is kind of aimed towards Easter. I don't use the word Easter. And that's what spawned the argument.

And after I looked it up, how? I didn't know this, but I looked it up. Yeah, we wondered what's the origin of the word Easter? What is the origin of the word Easter? The word Easter is primarily derived from old English originating from the Anglo-Saxon goddess,

the O-S-T-R-E, or Astra, who represented spring in the dome.

“Okay, that's why we get the spring thing.”

So I didn't read that in the Bible. I never saw anything.

So it has a pagan word itself as a pagan origin. That's what it says. Did you know that? However, I did not know that. Well, you didn't know that until you looked it up, right?

But there was a reason I didn't use it because I didn't know what it meant. Well, we don't have some paint, some eggs. So I-- Which we didn't get into that with Melissa, but she talks a lot about it, apparently, on her YouTube channel. But the idea that a lot of people, even inside Christianity, don't really understand that Easter is about the resurrection in terms of--

All right. That's how we preserved the word about a traditional art. According to this, I'll go into the seventh century historian B.D. The name was originally given to the month of Easter Monath April. Before being adopted for the Christian celebration of the resurrection.

That's exactly what you said. The resurrection feast.

So I call it resurrection day, but then I always say, every day's resurrection day for a follower of Jesus.

What's kind of you get into the same sort of argument, and certainly we've had that from about Christmas too, like we celebrate the birth of Jesus. But it's not-- and then you kind of have the same stuff, because there's Santa Claus and the gifts or words at the birth of the cry. What are we celebrating? Exactly.

But we should be celebrating this every day. I'm not opposed to it because you do have some people who--

“I mean, I think the most attended day of a church gathering is Easter Sunday.”

More people come on that day than any other. Unfortunately, a lot of them never come back until next year. Yeah. And that's just the way our culture is. And they call it that.

What did they call it?

The Lily Day, Lily Holiday, they only come on Easter Sunday or Holly and Lily on Christmas Sunday.

My take is coming from when I came to the Lord. Here I am, 14 years old, reading the book of John. When I got to the death of Jesus' part, I was like, oh no, this is terrible. What are they doing? I mean, I read the whole book with an open mind.

It wasn't in church. I was sitting on my bed. It was only when I got to the resurrection that then the crossmates sensed to me. I thought, oh. Oh.

Yeah. It's like it went backwards to make sense of this act on the cross. And so that's what I find illuminating. Yeah. It's like this guy.

Now he's making all these claims. He's doing all these things. But once he came back from the dead to me, that was the game. Which I kind of do like the fact that the resurrection Sunday is the bigger celebratory then say the good Friday, even though the whole kind of three days go together.

Because you can't, you know, they all fit into the plan. But it is the bigger celebration that he raised rather than the fact that he died. Even though, of course, we honored by the fact that he died. Well, because that's not pulling. Yeah.

You don't.

“That's why he can't detach that as far as importance.”

Because the resurrection then gave you a picture. There's something special about this guy who was on the cross. But it doesn't hit you until he came back from the dead. Oh, wait. How did this happen?

Who is this guy that really made me want a big deeper. Which you couldn't have the resurrection without the death. So obviously we go together. Is that where the eggs come in? Because you know, where did the Easter eggs come in?

Think about the fact that if you say, well, where is the tomb of Jesus?

“I mean, I mean, no, he was buried in the tomb of Joseph of Irmithia who was a rich man's tomb and all that.”

But where is that tomb?

And the answer is we don't know.

Yeah. And the reason why we don't know is because we don't care. The reason why we don't care is because he ain't in it. I mean, there's probably been some other bones. But in there, over the interim, that are there, but not him.

I use this illustration before at some point. But if you just walked by, if you happened to be alive when Jesus was on the cross and you just walked by and was oblivious of who he would. You never met this guy. What do you see? It's something that they did all the time.

The Romans crucified people. You saw three people in a cross. And what would you assume if you're walking back? Well, those are criminals. They did something wrong.

And that's what happened. So I need to, I either need to not get caught or, you know, or do some different. Yeah. I need to assimilate to the Roman rule here because that's okay. That's all you're thinking.

Now, as you keep walking, you walk to a graveyard. And you go in their graveyard, they're just these rocks over little rooms. I've been to Israel. Did you walk into the one that they can't do? They claim this is how they don't.

They, I mean, they want you to pay your 15, 20 dollars or whatever. So they're making a case for it without, we're not sure. But this is probably in the area. But look how that was the, I mean, I got goosebumps in my hair stood on. Because it was a tomb somewhere around there that he walked at him.

It happened when I came out because you, it's a, these, the way their tunes are set up. You're going through a small little rectangle. I'm not sure I could do that. Well, I don't like it. I'm close to foster phobic, but I'm glad I did.

Because when I, when I went in, no feeling. I looked around and thought, huh, it's a lot bigger than I would have thought. They have, they've carved out in the rock, the place where they lay the body. Right. It's crazy.

The one I went in had two rooms. And you're down under the ground and the rock. Right. When I stuck my head out, I got a feeling. I thought, this is what I believe.

I believe he came out of this, this whole or something like that. They may not have been right here. And so what I'm saying to, for my illustration, if you came by a tomb, the way their tunes were, and stuck your head in, and there's no body.

Now, I got a different feeling then because on the cross, I'm thinking, okay, there's just a criminal. But then they're like, oh, that, the guy's body's not here. That's the same one that was on the cross. Well, now my perspective changed.

Yeah. When I walked by on the cross, I don't think he was a common criminal. Right. You've got this wrong. Yeah.

He came back from the dead. It's only time this has happened in our history. Human history. Yeah.

“So that's why I think to minimize the resurrection in any way,”

even to name it from some son goddess from wherever. Now I'm out on that. I'm not going to make a big stink about it, if the kids want to do some eggs, but I'm going to pull my kids off to the side. So let me tell you something, this egg just should make you think

that there was a human who claimed to be God, who when they went to his grave side, body went there, which means we can live again. There's a way. We need to go find him, figure out who he is, and go all in.

Yeah. That's what I did with all my kids. Yeah.

And I've never been willing to, because some people say you shouldn't

highlight the resurrection. You should do it every week or whatever. Same with Christmas. But I don't want to have business of not being celebratory, but at the same time, I think you're right.

I think you always need clarity. Yeah. And words get attached to stuff. You know, I never knew what Easter meant. The word or where it came from.

It's like Halloween is the similar with the Halloween season. Well, look, the bottom line is people did that to make money in our culture, because then you sell a bunch of whatever theme. It's a branding thing. And we just kind of like went along with it.

“And that's why I was wondering about the Easter egg.”

If that's just something that just, I don't know where that came from. Because, you know, bunnies don't lay eggs. So it wasn't a part of the same narrative, but I just thought if you were going to explain it,

which came first, the chicken or the egg,

You know, like the philosophical question.

I think about that when I think of the resurrection and the crucifixion as we just described it. You can't have one without the other. So a lot of kids today, Jayce, here about Easter, and they only think about, you know, chocolate bunnies

and candy and egg hunts, and these are fun traditions. But Easter is about God's love for us. I mean, I call it resurrection day. A good way to remind yourself is to read some books about the resurrection and pour that into your kid.

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That's BraveBooks.com/easter. Well, that's what I'm saying. What came first to chicken in the egg when it comes to Easter?

“What came first is a chocolate maker saying”

"We'll make a egg full of chocolate and sell it if we can get them to sell it." If we can get them to celebrate this holiday. If we can monetize it, in 19th century,

the tradition of chocolate eggs began in 1870. In 1870s. Wow, that's pretty nice. Easter egg roll started in 1878, but it goes back.

This is from Maddie, our producers. She's in the server. Look at Maddie. We're getting some liberalism.

Eggs have a long symbolized. They've long symbolized new life. Fertility and rebirth and ancient spring festivals and cults. And then the Christian tradition eggs were forbidden during length. So people decorated them to mark the end of the fasting period

and celebrate them on Easter. It's very interesting. But it's all a distraction from the resurrection of Jesus. Why not take him in there?

“So you couldn't eat them, so you colored them.”

That was because they were taken off the 40 days to eat eggs. Oh, I would be a serious trouble, because the PhD died. I ate a lot of eggs. So I don't think I could go 40 days on that egg.

I ate them every day. I did too. I love them. So there you go, is that? Are we all in agreement now?

We found something we can agree on? We can agree on the resurrection of Jesus Christ and the coming resurrection of the dead. Which would be us. We kind of have our latest tradition here

and our church, the last probably 10 years, is we kind of tie the whole weekend together. They'll do Palm Sunday. It was like the week when Jesus came into Jerusalem, which we've talked a lot about.

The idea of the king coming in. That started, you know, a week prior to his death. And so we kind of start talking about it. The week prior and then there's something planned. Almost every day in different formats of people at our church.

The children do the thing and they've got a big thing. Walk through with Jesus and then Friday night, which is kind of symbolic of the crucifixion, which is good Friday. Celebrate recovery meets on that night.

And so there's a big thing they do about the idea of putting to death. The old man and the old woman. Which is really cool. And then Sunday, of course, we celebrate the resurrection and some format.

In terms of us being together. You know, specifically talking about this year. Mike and our preaching together. And we're going to -- I want to talk about the -- And I hadn't put it together yet.

But I want to talk about the effects of the resurrection of Jesus to us, which we don't talk about a lot. We talk about his resurrection and what it means that we -- You know, we can live forever. But what does that mean for us?

What is it going to look like for us?

So you should go to first John.

That's what gave me the idea. First John, three. Yep. When he appears, we should be like him. Yes.

What we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when he appears, we should be like him. For we shall see him as he is.

That's exactly the scripture of the day.

That's exactly what gave me that thought. What does he mean? What does he mean? What does he mean? He's going to happen again.

That's -- because I thought back to the things he did, and that's going to be the just of the lesson, is that these are all things that I mean we're assuming that we will be able to do. Because look, he didn't just do it once.

“I actually had somebody say, "Why you keep bringing that up?”

Mediates and fish." Because people don't like where I go with that evidently. They're not allowed now. I mean, that's -- because what about the animals? They're all going to make it, too.

And like, well, he made a point because he organized the fish in operation in John 20. But he also, in one of the other accounts, they didn't believe out of joy and amazement. So he said, "Do you have anything here?" They gave him a piece of fish.

So that was twice that he ingested a fish for some reason. So I get it that they didn't think he was real. Even though they're looking at him, it is beyond our comprehension.

I mean, now, if you pick somebody, I mean, if our dad walked in in five minutes and said, "Hey boys, you have any fish around here?"

Well, you know, you're a first reaction as a human being with things.

Well, this is an impersonator. Yeah, wouldn't you? Yeah. You wouldn't think, "Oh, he's back." He just wouldn't think that.

Right.

“And I think that's why the story is what it is.”

But what really intrigues me is him asking for that fish in your right on multiple occasions. Multiple occasions. So he was trying to get them to see there's a new body. Yep.

That has some earth component. Yeah. Because if you don't have that, you can't be eating any fish. Because the assumption that you made earlier was people go back to the garden.

And they're like, "See, there was a relationship here because remember the animals were there. Adam names them. And you don't see anything until later about the dread of the wild animals. Nice genesis.

Nice genesis. None of the birthplace of hun and we use it. But he also says in that same chapter, you know, there's going to be an account for every blood that is shed.

Yeah. And he's like animals and humans. Yeah.

Which is why I'm always a respectful hunter.

Because I've read that. Right.

“And I've used that with people who I think are hunting”

in a disrespectful way. But you know, it didn't say anything about fish from in the garden setting. I mean, Well, they were part of the creation.

That's what I'm saying. I mean, they could have been eaten fish. At the very least, if we're assuming they were vegetarians, at least they were pest-contarians. I don't think any animal died.

Well, I mean, you don't know. The skins made when it says the covering so you assume that there was some kind of sacrifice made there. I've heard people give a tell. It's like you made those. That's post-fall.

I mean, so post-fall you have. I know. My point is that before you answer his Genesis 9, it seems to be a change in the animal post-fall. Yeah.

Because then he said, From now on. Right. Well, that means this wasn't happening. Yeah.

So here's a new beginning. Anything that walks, crawls, flies, or swimtime, giving you a pair of fries. He said, I mean, you want to just read it? Yeah.

I mean, we're there. We're a lot of bobble study here. I have quoted this verse so many times. Well, there's different levels now. So you have vegetarians.

You have vegans, which can eat anything, but plant-based. But then you got pest-contarians, which I didn't know about that. This is going to answer all this.

Till our show. I'm just saying laying out for the audience. There are very, very degrees of people's eating. So what happened right before Genesis 9? We have to get the context.

There was a flood. Well, and give me some more details. Well, then there was like a year on the ark. I know, but who was on the ark? No, in his family.

And all these animals. And not just pairs. Some were seven of them because some would be sacrificed later. So it seems like this is a, this is some kind of, I was going to say Walt Disney movie,

but they wouldn't run that. So it seems like a cartoon. Yeah. Like we're all the animals and the people. This family are kind of having a kumbaya survival.

Everybody's getting along. Say, "And God obviously directed the animals to come

Yes.

Something was going on here.

“So what my point is, they're not eating chicken on the boat.”

The two chickens are safe, whatever form of chicken. But would they eat the eggs? Well, it's a good point. So I have to my philosophy. All right, I'm going to read this.

So then God bless no one is saying to them. Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. So now we're back to where this all started with the humans. Yep. But then this comes up.

The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beast of the earth and all the birds of the air upon every creature that moves along the ground and upon all the fish of the sea. They are given into your hands.

Okay. So it almost sounds like nothing was until this moment. That's what it seems like. And there's four categories. I forgot that.

It's a very hard read.

“I mean, I mean, I don't know if there's a better read.”

But think about what it actually says. He says to human, the human family, the fear and dread of you will fall upon and he lists four food groups. Now I'm getting the cart for the horse.

He's going to call him food in a second.

But four animal cland. The beast of the earth. Okay. So I'm taking elk. Yeah.

You'll deer. Yeah. There's a what a beast. All these. Yeah.

All these things. All the birds of the air. So that's another group. Anything that flies. That'd be your Bob White Quail.

Yeah. You got walkers. You got flyers. Yeah. Now here's where the cages perk up upon.

Every creature that moves along the ground. Anything crawling on the grass is. Yeah. Lizzards. Yeah.

Yeah. Whatever. Anything crawling. Yeah. Not the crawlers.

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Just like swimmers, flowers, flowers, walkers. Everything that lives and moves. Let's say that covers it. Care of everything else. The plot will be food for you.

You're like, this is in the Bible. It's crazy. Just as I gave you the grain plants. So there's your, I guess, the Mescatorians or vegetarians and the vegans. All right.

I now give you everything.

“Now then, but then he says, but you must not eat meat that has the life blood still in it.”

So that's why we get into cooking and in things. And for your life blood, I will surely demand an accounting and I will demand an accounting from every animal. So that's why I said that, that's where I got that. What is all that mean? What it sounds like?

That's what society is. Yeah. And so there was the birthplace of 100 in this. And it is interesting to your point that a glorified, resurrected Jesus participated in the groups. Yeah.

Now, I didn't believe, like I said, sin contributed to this and the fall of man.

You'll see it.

That when they gave the animal sacrifices that he called that gifts from God.

Yeah.

“So, and I think that's the same thing here.”

God made them. And he's like, I'm giving you gifts. Despite your rebellion against me, but you can, you can hunt them. That's where I said the huntiness where it said the fear and dread will fall upon these. Now, we, we domesticate animals and everything.

But if you take an animal and put him out in the woods and leave him alone for a while, he's scared of humans. Yeah. You're like, why? Because they're trying to eat him. And so I think it's an evidence to God.

And even a domesticated animal goes viral is what we call it if they're out on their own. Yeah. Well, and how did the author of this thousands of years ago know that? Yeah. And that's something.

Yeah. That's something. Yeah. I think it's something interesting.

“I mean, I think, one of the things I love about that picture of Jesus eating, though,”

is that, you know, in the last podcast, she was talking about the new age movement. And she used a term called esoteric. Tell us what that means. It's like a hidden special knowledge for like a private person or private group. And then, um, and there's another term called "Nostasis" in the sheet mentioned, which is,

we've talked about that on the podcast lot, which is kind of the view that everything's spiritual and whatever's physical. Ah, that's all going to hell. And I have a basket. That's, I don't worry, but the physical flesh is bad.

Brush is bad. But what you see in the resurrected Jesus, you see a couple things that are very important to the Christian faith. The Christian faith alone has the highest view of the physical world in any other worldview. Nancy Piercy wrote a book on this called "Love That Body." And her point in the book is essentially that the Christianity actually holds a very high view of the human body.

And to the point where, well, one got incarnated into a human body. Two, when that body was murdered and killed, God brought it back to life in a glorified way. So obviously, the physical body is extremely important because the center of the Christian faith is a bodily resurrection. And then more so that bodily resurrection still does things like E. It still eats. And I think that is one of the most earthy, tangible things that we can hold on to.

Because when I grew up here in about heaven, and I don't know, I don't think the church taught this is just what I heard. I imagine floating on a cloud somewhere as like almost like a ghost at the real. I tried, I do what, at the real. That's how I imagined it. I imagine we were just kind of floating, or, and I just couldn't quite get an imagination for that.

And so my, my. You could only eat fluffy things that didn't really have a substance. Yeah, cotton candy cotton candy. It's like, I don't, I try to imagine that world, and I was like, I couldn't imagine it. And so my mother had it.

And it didn't sound like so awesome to like be there for eternity when you just cry. But it did sound, it did sound better than eternal conscious torment. Yeah, exactly. Hell. Yeah. And so the motivation was, I didn't want to go to hell. And that sounded a lot better than being tormented forever.

But I've never really had the motivation.

“Honestly, for what is, what is, what is heaven? What does it really mean?”

And that probably came later on in my, in my Christian walk as I, again, to understand the kingdom of God. But I couldn't understand the kingdom of God until I first understood that bodily resurrection is the key to the whole thing. Jesus resurrection is a key to the whole thing. So Jesus is enjoying fish. What does that tell you about about it? We're back to the garden now. This is a whole lot like the garden.

I give you every seed bearing tree. For you can eat from any tree in the garden. You, you guys, and I want you to eat. I put you here to cultivate this garden and go eat. Go have a feast.

And so what Christ does is, and a father does by resurrecting Christ from the dead. He's actually restoring us back to Eden and Christ is a, he's the, a four runner in that.

He's the first born of the new creation.

And so we look at him as a, not, he is not just a prototype. He's like the, he's the, he's that cornerstone. And we can, we can latch on to him knowing that this will be our future destiny. But where it is that is the flood is kind of, we tell you that with the crucifix and the resurrection, the flood ties in to the garden. Because once you have a post in world, and we've also talked about this interaction between the other beings, angels, Satan, all that.

And so the flood was an extinction event to change the results at least temporarily on the earth until Jesus got to hear of what happened.

Because it's soon in the garden. I don't, don't you agree with that. So the fact he changes, not only was it all these people died. And we think about it, whoever was alive at that point died, except for one family.

“So it was a mass extinction, I believe, to get rid of the effects of this cross pollination between the sons of,”

the sons of God and the sons of man, and whatever was happening there with these nephalum and whatever was happening on earth. But it did say in Genesis 6 when he talked about the nephalum and we're getting kind of deeper. I know, I know. It did say that they would be there after. And obviously, there were still some genetic, there were still some genetic things because you still saw some of these giants.

I'm saying, there was a direct extinction event for a reason. So it does, it makes sense to me that then God would even change the way we view animals going forward. Because it, it changed. The garden was idyllic, right?

I mean, without sin, it was an eternal setting in and of itself, as long as they keep eating from the tree of life.

Oh, here we go. They're going to live forever. Oh, I got to read this. All right. Well, we're just going down one rabbit.

I mean, it's just, it's, it's just, it's just charting it towards Genesis 6. It says when men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them. Then this curious phrase comes up, the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful. And they married any of them that they chose. And if you go do a rabbit hole in sons of God, you'll see that it's in other places as translated angels.

Big debate over all that. Yeah. We won't get into that right now.

But the fact is, some kind of supernatural being has decided, which I can't blame them, to make you feel how beautiful women are.

And they're like, you know what? And they were not supposed to do that. God didn't want them to do that, but they did. So then the Lord said, my spirit will not continue with man forever. So one thing he did is lowered their days of how long they could live on the earth. So it says, for he is mortal, his days will be 120 years.

So before this, you know, there were people live in 7800 years on the earth. Almost a thousand. Yeah. So, I keep reading, which I think was, again, my, this is my opinion, that that was still the echo effect of whatever was happening from that tree of life. That's what I think would go up.

Oh, great. The Nephilim were on the earth in those days. So all of a sudden, bring up this group of people. Yeah. And also, after work.

Yes.

“So see, that's why I said, because those were the giants, right?”

They were deemed the giant, think a lot and all that. So evidently, he's supernatural beings, mate with humans, women, and it produced these giants. Which muddled the DNA line, it had to have done that. Which is why we got a flood going on. Of course.

And because God was like, no. Yeah. We've lost control. I've given these angelic beings a way to choose. They've rebelled against me.

Humans have rebelled against me. They've gotten together and really produced a lot of evil. Right. I think it had reached a level of. And remember, remember how thin the thread is here, because the thread line now, if humanity, is down to one man and his family.

Yeah. I mean, we're down to one man as family, but God's going back to the promising mate in Genesis 315, that there would be a son that would crush the head of Satan. The days we talk a lot about the body as we get older. Every day is a struggle out.

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“And that's why you need to understand something.”

It's about metabolism. Your body naturally wants to burn fat. So you got to tap into why it's not. And that's what they do. And they do it very well.

And they walk alongside you. That's a reward for me. And at the resurrection now, it won't be as much to race. Exactly. So here's a picture of me at the beginning of that journey.

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had become and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time. The Lord was grieved that he had made man on the earth and his heart was filled with pain." So the Lord said, "I will wipe, I'll mankind,

whom I have created from the face of the earth. Man, animal screech is a mullet that move along the ground and birds of the air for I am grieved that I have made them." But Noah found favor. So that's kind of how the story goes.

I mean, look, in the scholarly world,

“there's some, because you're like, "Well, he wiped mankind out."”

Like, some believe that it was a localized flood. You know, I'm not going to claim to be a scholar, but we had a reboot of some sort. And God chose a new family. Right here.

We had Adam and Eve and now we have Noah, but look, when we get to Abraham, guess what happened? We have another family that he raises. He keeps rebooting over and over

to ultimately bring Jesus to save the entire family.

And what's interesting, Joseph, you look at it when you get to Jesus actually gets here and his glorified and ate that fish, and went back to the right hand of the Father. And then in the interim,

they had all these food laws and all this stuff about food in the Old Testament, Leviticus and other places. But then you get to Old Peter, who's about to be sent to include the Gentiles now into salvation as a whole with his trip to Cornelius.

And how does he illustrate to him that it's time to go to preach to the Gentiles? He does it with the, as David say, a movie screen coming down out of heaven. Acts chapter 10, which guess what?

That same list you read in Jesus's nine? Same way. See it again in Acts 10. And the idea is that everything I make is good. Yeah.

He actually says a rise, kill and eat. But what I want to make is, which very few people talk about in the spiritual world, the importance of a family, being God's family.

He created Adam and Eve to be his family forever. You have the real life here. And the only place you see the real life, specifically, is in Genesis. Well, then you see it in Revelation at the end,

where you start talking about a new heaven, and a new earth, and here's the real life again. Right. And then in Proverbs, it's used, because that's the wisdom chapter.

But I would say that the cross of Jesus, became in a way the tree of life again, because of who was on it. Because by his death,

“then resurrection, life is now available.”

And I want to garden his restored. Garden for store, because I want to read this. You brought up the actual bodily resurrection, the eating of fish that made his comments. So when you go to Romans 8,

and you read that this is so interesting, the wording of this. It's kind of mind blowing.

And for years, I never could understand

one specific person here. But in verse 9 of Romans 8, it says, "You, however, are not controlled by the sinful nature or the flesh." But by the spirit.

So at this point, he thinks, "Oh, the flesh is bad." And we're back to this narcissism. We get, "Oh, God, see, he sends his spirit because your body's bad." But just keep reading.

And it says, "You're controlled by the spirit. If the spirit of God lives in you." And if anyone does not have the spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. And here's the verse I couldn't understand for years.

But if Christ is in you, come up to Holy Spirit of Christ in you. Your body is dead because of sin.

which is why this special knowledge thing

took off because of that. Oh, this body's worthless. Well, just hang on. I mean, your body is dead. You're like, "No, I'm alive, Jay.

Oh, it's just heavy." Just give it a minute. It's dead. That's why I couldn't figure it out. I'm like, "Oh, no, I'm doing good."

No, every day that passes, I wake up with a steady reminder

“that this body has a rare action looms large.”

Abraham had it put this way. It's as good as dead. Remember? And he has a God in able to have a child. But that's the way it depicted this body.

It's pretty much as good as dead. Yeah. Well, your body's dead. So you say, "Well, a lot of people they can't wrap their head around that." So they're like, "Well, it's just not a mortal body." But watch what it goes on to say.

If the spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he's repeated that twice now. Yep. He who raised Christ from the dead. Well, that's the same one

who when he was raised from the dead was eaten fish. We'll also give life. Now look what this is. Two year, I'm going to do my Phil Robertson impersonation. Two year mortal bodies.

That's this one that's dead now. Yeah. This body. He's going to give life to that. Just like Jesus had life to his mortal body.

It came, they were like, "It's him. It's him. No, we don't believe it." Give me some fish. Let me show you. Which is why he says that I consider the sufferings of this present time, the decaying of this mortal body and the universe for that matter are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed in us.

That's the new body. Well, that's where I'm headed with this.

But look, the third time he says he's going to give life to your mortal bodies,

the third time in this paragraph. Through his spirit who lives in you.

“I mean, what you should walk away from this paragraph saying is,”

"I need the Spirit of God in me." The Spirit of Jesus in me. Then you're body. It's my literal body because this thing's dead. So then look, fast forward to where you were headed

and he starts talking about the earth. The earth being liberated from its bondage of decay. So he goes from the human body to the body of the earth, and where does he start? The first 20, he says creation was subjected to frustration,

not about its own choice. Maybe there was a flood there because there's a lot of frustration, the what's going on. But by the will of the one he's subjected it, and hope that the creation itself will be liberated,

from its bondage to decay this dead body. And the earth's not going to. It's dying. Your whole, it looks great. No, it's going to have.

How trust me, that's the doom scrollers of day, every day. Exactly. So then he's like, "We know the whole creation has been grown in." But then verse 23, there's a transition. Not only so, not only the earth has some brokenness

and some death to it.

But we ourselves who have the first fruits of the Spirit.

There's the, it's living in you. grown inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons. How do we become sons of God? There's a comma there. And then these five words.

The redemption of our bodies. We get a new body. Yep. Like Jesus' body. This, this thing's dead.

Right. And it was dead whether you believe it or not. We're just living in a delusion.

“That's why some of many people are out there doing some stupid things.”

Because they're like, "Man, I ain't gonna be here long." I got it. You know, look at what's out here. You know, but there's a way. If you trust God, you have His Spirit.

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“I mean, I think that this all intersects very beautifully”

in Romans 8 with Genesis 1, 2 and 3 because Genesis 1, 28, you get the vocation of man. What? So I got a body. I'm Adam and Eve.

We got bodies. What do we do with it? Well, you cultivate the earth and expand it. You cultivate the garden. The fall happens.

And then all the sudden, what happens to that vocation? What happens to that work? You get the curse in Genesis 3.

And it basically says that the actual ground itself is cursed

because of you. In paying, you shall eat of it all the days of your life. Now, that wasn't the case until the fall. Before it was like cultivate the garden, it was paradise. Work was great.

Thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you. And you shall eat the plants of the field by the sweat of your face. You shall eat bread until you return to the ground. For out of it you were taken from for you are dust and the dust you're returned. So as you think about the curse, at least from the perspective of the earth,

the earth would now produce thorns and dizzles.

“We said, well, what did Jesus wear on his head, whatever he was crucified?”

A crown of thorns. He Jesus wore the curse of Genesis chapter 3. He took on that curse. And so when you get to Romans 8 and it says,

the creation is actually groaning.

It awaits with eager longing for the revelation of the sons of God. What does God's verse 19 say? How does Jesus say in the name of the Romans 8 and 19? The creation, the creation, weight and eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. Think about that phrase.

I love the way the end of he says it. The creation itself is waiting. And it's saying, we cannot wait to see the sons of God be revealed. The question is, why? Why would the creation wait? What are they waiting on? What is it waiting on? It's waiting on Genesis 128.

It's waiting to be cultivated into the garden of Eden. It's waiting to put a whole globe to be transformed into the new heaven and the new earth. By the bodies of human beings who are filled with the Holy Spirit. So creation is saying, we, the creation is like, we don't. It doesn't like to be in a bondage to decay.

And the thing that's going to liberate that is our vocation in the new heavens and the new earth. That to me is very, very, very earthy in this world. Love it. Stars me up to think about it. Thank you, Zack, because you've led me to a PSA public service announcement. We need to like, PSA music, man.

For the world. This is groundbreaking. I'm making, I'm, I'm, I'm, I just had an epiphany. We need to change the name for Easter. And I got it. Jace has proposed a new name for Easter.

It's time for a change. Time for a change. This is going back when 1860, whatever. Let's change it. Well, that was the Easter robot.

You ready? Yeah. Eager. Eager. We're going to go celebrate Eager.

Because we have to like Easter. Expectation. Yeah. For the sons of God to be revealed. What do you think?

A plus, I love that broad. I love the broad picture you said about the creation waiting. It reminded me what Paul said to the Ephesians. Listen to this one. Because it's more than just the earth.

This is Ephesians 3 team. His intent was that now through the church, the bread of Christ, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms.

So it's not even just the earth is looking and eagerly waiting,

“but even the heavenly realms are looking at the same thing and saying,”

Oh boy. What we could do is get a little bucket of water. Get an egg. And we'll baptize the Easter egg. And it'll come up.

Eager. Eager. We'll give it a new name. Look, the marketing people will get on board.

You never have eager bodies.

If you have an eager egg, and then a kid says, "Why is it eager?" Yeah, I wanted Easter eggs. You could have an eager bunny, because a bunny is part of the creation.

The bunny's eager for the sons of guys waiting for the sons of God to be revealed. Hey, Beth, how's that bunny, too? Yeah. That's awesome. Turn that Easter bunny.

I know the tagline for this episode. Jayce has renamed Easter. Should I think we should do it? I'm going to tell my wife. I hadn't seen her in 10 days.

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